Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 110: Gorgonorrhea

Episode Date: August 5, 2013

 

Do you want to get Cognitive Dissonance streamed to your iPhone or Blackberry? If so, download Stitcher free today at Stitcher.com. 1, 2, 3, 4. 1, 2, 3, 4. I went to a glory hole And got down on my knees Got down on my knees I went to a glory hole It's the only way I know how to please

How to Now I'm sitting here in this to someone I don't know. I gave it my heart and it wanted my soul. Oh, glory, oh. So I'm sitting here confessing To something I don't mind I don't mind Only the Lord would forgive me My son, don't be sad

Don't be sad I know that I heard that voice before While kneeling on the public toilet floor You stuck your knee crucifix through the door I love you, glory hole So fill me with your hot, salty cheers Crying sinful tears I will shine your helmet

With the back of my throat I know that there was something wrong So I'll praise Jesus. On my own. Sunday morning. I will go to that. Glory home. Oh glory home. Oh glory home.

Oh glory home. Oh glory home. Oh, glory, oh Oh, glory, oh Oh, glory, oh Oh, glory, oh Oh, glory, oh Oh, glory, oh Oh, glory, oh Glory out. Glory out. Oh, this is rubbish. Let's go and watch, um, No, it's not.

It's not. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. This is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical. it's political,

and there is no welcome at this is probably episode 110. But I could be mistaken. My only job, as pointed out by Noah, is to add one. Just because a person has had a struggle with such feelings for some time is not proof that anything is inborn and there's no solid science to back this up either many people struggle with appetites for food that lead to obesity but very few were born with a hormonal imbalance leading to weight gain almost everyone learned these appetites along the way, so unlearning them will also be a step-by-step process, but it is most certainly possible starting with facing the truth, and it's kind of similar with homosexual feelings. But know the world's message today is

go for it. Declare yourself and join the Out and Proud community, and the temptation to feel belonging and acceptance is tremendous the first story i want to talk about comes from rightwingwatch.org um linda harvey this this story is is delightful this story cecil reminds me of the uh do you remember like taking the sats and they had those uh you know a monkey is like a horse as a dog is like a pony or whatever. Wait a minute. None of those things are alike. They are alike. They are. I don't. I'm not. I wasn't very good at the SAT. You're not right in the

SAT. I was just filling in like bubbles. I was like drawing pictures with the. Yeah. But Linda Harvey kind of goes the same way. She says gay people aren't all that different from those who struggle with eating too much and obesity. And I would say that that's probably accurate if by eating too much, you mean having sex with people who are the same sex as you.

How the fuck? What kind of crazy fucking comparison is this? Like, I know she's making an appetite comparison. Right. But that's like, like, look, fucking Aristotle made an appetite comparison right but that's like like look fucking aristotle made an appetite comparison too he's like fucking long dead at this point aristotle right now is rolling in his like he's like oh my bones my dusty fucking bones are rolling with a comparison to linda harvey are you fucking kidding me oh fuck aristotle take that dude no, dude. Fuck. No, but like the, you're right.

It's an appetite. It's an appetite comparison. But I mean, that doesn't make any sense. It's like, look, you have appetites for things. You know, maybe you have an appetite for, I don't know, like fucking extreme sports. Does that make you gay? You know what I mean? It's so crazy.

She's trying to talk about this as a learned behavior, right? So she says almost everyone learned these appetites along the way, so unlearning them will also be a step-by-step process, but it's most certainly possible, starting with facing the truth. It's kind of similar with homosexual feelings. No! Nobody learns

to be homosexual! How would the first person learn to be homosexual? And what's the truth about being fat? Like, food has calories? Like, that's the truth? Like, okay. Who doesn't know that? You And what's the truth about being fat? Like food has calories? Like that's the truth? Like, okay. Who doesn't know that? You have to face the truth. I've been facing a cake.

Yeah. That's the problem. Like there's no, you know, people should. Hold a fucking mirror in front of me, man. Like I will face the truth. It's like the truth is I'm rotund. Yeah. That's the fucking truth.

I don't fit in the mirror. I'm going to need more mirrors. I'm going to need actually a series of mirrors. You need like a whole haul of mirrors. So take me to a carnival and then shove me, butter my sides and shove me into the fun house so I can see my back finally. You're standing in front of one of those fun house mirrors like, oh, this is the one that makes me look short and fat. And they're like, you're actually not in the attraction yet, sir. You're just short and fat.

That's just, you're just short and fat. All the kids are looking at you with their telescopes. They're like, how many tickets to ride that one? They just point right at me. Like, I want to go on the jumpy. Like, no, I'm not a not a jump i'm a human being and you're so fat you must be gay you know this is like this is that age-old like right wing kooka nut conspiracy nonsense like

that you know like the kids be learning how to have the gay right like that's it like oh yeah this shit like a cold like they didn't wash their fucking hands enough like oh you didn't wash your hands seven times today now you caught the gay oh fuck damn okay is it can i get rid of it yeah you just have to learn how to be attracted to a different sex just face the truth you just gotta face the truth that your dick gets hard looking at a different sex that's the no like i don't walk sex. I don't walk around stealing glances in the men's locker room where I work out.

My eyes are on the ground. I don't want to see your junk, dude. I want to just fucking go to the shower, shower, wrap my towel around myself, walk back to my fucking locker, and then stare at my locker as I get dressed. That's what I do. I'm never fucking like flaunting my junk, walking around, waving it around.

Like propellering that shit around the locker like, woo! And it's not like I would have looked at a website or something or read a book that would make me think that that would be a good idea where I would be like, man, you know what? I've been sort of missing out on fucking walking around and waving my cock like a lasso at the fucking men's locker room. Like, no. First off, it's not a lasso. It's like a piece of thread. But secondly, like the very fact is, is that just it's just not interesting to me. Now, it may be interesting to some people. I'm not fucking like discounting their experience. Great. Good for you. But the idea that somehow this is a learned – just like you said, somehow it's a learned response.

What the fuck do you have to stumble into to learn the gay? Well, that's the thing. It's like in order for something to be a learned – like biologically, like a learned response, let's imagine like the reward – like the reward circuit, like the pleasure system would just have to be like triggered. You walk into a room and there's like a dude's dick and you're just like, oh, I wasn't expecting that. And all of a sudden, I don't know, like somebody feeds you a Twinkie or something. Like how is that? You're like Pavlov's dong. It doesn't – it's not how sexuality works.

It's not like you walk around – and heterosexual people all know this, right? They know this as instinctively as homosexual people know this because they don't ever have to think about who they're fucking attracted to. Who you're attracted to and what you fucking think about have nothing in common. Like, your thinking bits when it comes to attraction are like, well, if you're going to get fucking hard now, I'll be over here. Like, I'll be reading fucking advertisements for Volvo. It doesn't matter you don't fucking need me right now you're busy being attracted to something like those two parts of your body they may as well be fucking different organisms they have nothing to fucking do with each other you can't learn the gay who would teach you the gay who's the first one that taught the first one the gay you know also too i mean she's sort of shooting herself in the foot here because you know the

it's not learned behavior that were that attracts us to fatty foods this is you know natural behavior i mean you you know yeah it's learned in that i tasted it one fucking time and i'm like holy shit i want a big mac because it's fucking loaded with fucking fat. Or holy shit, I want the cheesecake. Or holy shit, I want this chocolate bar. Whatever the fuck it is that you're eating. Some thing that's super calorie dense, nasty, full of fat and sugar or something.

Because something like that just doesn't occur in nature normally. It's like you need a fucking whole bushel full of broccoli or you can eat this tiny little nugget of sugar. You know what I mean? Like there's no Snickers tree. Yeah, exactly. I've been looking. There's not even a Prince fucking spaghetti tree.

But, you know, the idea is like, you know, it's I mean, while it is a learned response, it's also instinctual. And because the moment you taste it, your endorphins go off. Right. The same thing here. It's like, you know, I'm sure that, you know, the thing is you're around boys and girls as you grow up and your instincts take over just like you're around different foods and your instincts take over. Who's that guy on the other side of the glory hole?

It's Jesus. So this story comes from the Huffington Post. Kentucky School This is another crazy comparison story. Kentucky School Prayer Petition links prayer ban with AIDS epidemic.

Because I guess if you can't pray in school out loud, because you can pray in school, right? So it's like you can pray anybody can pray in school. Yeah. But if you can't pray in school out loud, because you can pray in school, right? So it's like you can pray. Anybody can pray in school. Yeah. But if you can't pray in school in front of everybody in a way that leads them in a prayer, then you'll get AIDS in Kentucky.

Then you'll get AIDS? Like that's how you get, no, no, this is scientifically proven. In Kentucky. No, I realize you're being serious right now. Yeah, this is how you get AIDS, is that somebody was going to pray, and then you didn't. They didn't pray. And then you were in a school at the time.

And so then you got AIDS. And that's how that. That's how that works. Works. Yeah. Jesus. When do the condoms come in? No, they don't.

Yeah, they don't. It's Kentucky. So the condoms don't get to come in. No, no. You don't ever get to come in condoms. Yeah, I think this is pretty. This is this is, you know, obviously this is just like – this is the American Family Association just being fucking crazy. But they are right when they say Florida and Mississippi already have put together prayer sort of back-end schools because we talked about – did we talk about it? I don't think so.

We didn't talk about it, but you tweeted it. Right. The prayer in schools in Missouri or whatever or Mississippi, whatever. They're both M states, that and I. They wind up with – they're actually allowing students to initiate the prayer. It's not – look, we're not letting the teachers initiate the prayer. We're just having the students do it over the intercom in the morning. Right, exactly.

So you could not participate if you want to, but pretty much you have to hear the fucking intercom. So that's what they've sort of instituted in one of those states, and now they want to do that here. And they're basically saying – and it says here, this is what the American Family Association said. I guess maybe they chanted this. It said, students praying again will eventually turn our country back to God. And, I mean, really the thing is, is like this is just a crazy organization that is trying any way they can to try to undermine separation of church and state because they don't think it exists. And this is just another example of when everybody says, oh, why the hell are you atheists even talking about religion? The reason why we're talking about religion is because people want to cram it down your throats.

And I just don't want it in schools. I just don't want it in schools. It's real simple because the Hindu kid in class is going to have to listen to that prayer in Mississippi. And the Wiccan kid in class is going to have to listen to that prayer in Mississippi. And the Wiccan kid in class is going to have to listen to it. And they don't even have to be weird religions. I don't even know. I mean, I guess all religions are weird. But, you know, I mean, like the Catholic kid has got to hear the Pentecostal prayer. They shouldn't have to do that.

You know, wouldn't you think with how many and we've talked about this before, but, you know, there's like hundreds, if not thousands of different sects of Christianity and they can differ really fucking widely on their belief structure on, on really fundamental issues about, you know, how their belief structure operates. So why in the world would you want somebody leading a Christian prayer? That's not even a meaningful thing to say, right? Because it's like, well, which sect of Christianity, you know, would the Protestants be real comfortable having a Catholic mass?

No, of course fucking not. They don't want to have a Catholic mass. They want to have their, everybody wants to have their brand, right? That's what they want. They want to walk in and be like, well, I've got my Nike swoosh on this. And everybody should all, you know, bow down to my Nike swoosh. And somebody could be like, well, I've got my Nike swoosh on this. And everybody should all, you know, bow down to my Nike swoosh. And somebody could be like, well, I'm a running shoe too, you know? But then you look over like, well, fuck you.

You're a Reebok. Go to hell. You know? And it's like, well, this protects all of us. We're all equally ignoring this issue in the public sphere together so that we can get along, so that we can have, this is how you get nice things. You know, like, this is how you do it. You don't do it by having the fucking American family, and I'm, American family, so you have

nothing to do with families, American Family Association of Kentucky, you know, talking about a petition that states that after the removal of prayer from public school, teen pregnancy and violent crime rates spiked 500 percent. Except for violent crime and teen pregnancy is down. It's down. It's not up. Yeah, but it's spiked. It didn't spike 500 percent. Violent crime is down across the entire fucking country.

Teen pregnancy is down. Like, it's not up. It's not. We're going in the right direction. Yeah, but those are just statistics. Oh, I know. You can just say anything if it's true. Just say anything you want. And it doesn't mean that there aren't groups of people in this country that, you know, that I have sympathy for. I do. And there are kids that were brought into this country by their parents unknowing that they were breaking the law. And they will say to me and others who defend the rule of law, we have to do something about the 11 million.

And some of them are valedictorians. Well, my answer to that is, and by the way, their parents brought them in. It wasn't their fault. It's true in some cases, but they aren't all valedictorians. They weren't all brought in by their parents. For everyone who's a valedictorian, there's another 100 out there that they weigh 130 pounds and they've got calves the size of cantaloupes because they're hauling 75 pounds of marijuana across the desert. Those people would be legalized with the same act.

And until the folks that want to open the borders and grant this amnesty can define the difference between the innocent ones who have deep ties with America and those who have been, I'll say, undermining our culture and civilization and profiting from criminal acts. Until they can define that difference, they should not advocate for amnesty for both good and evil. I fucking love this guy. Steve King, Representative Steve King of Iowa, is just fucking batshit crazy.

Undocumented immigrants, mostly 130-pound drug runners with calves the size of cantaloupes. What? It's better than calves the size of antelopes. Because that's huge calves. I mean, huge. But an antelope the size of a calf would be kind of interesting. That'd be just kind of cute. It's like bouncing. I mean, huge. But an antelope the size of a calf would be kind of interesting. That'd be just kind of cute. It's like bouncing around.

Right, right. Could this guy say anything more unbelievably offensive? Right. I mean, this is a racist, crazy, fucking spectacularly xenophobic, ignorant fucking thing to say. How is he an employed individual? ignorant fucking thing to say. How is he an employed individual? You know, I, I, first off, I don't, obviously he's elected in there, right? By some, by his constituents, he's in Iowa. So evidently he has got some sort of weird portion of Iowa that just loves him. What he's saying is that one out of a hundred people that are immigrants,

illegal immigrants, and we're going to, you know, we'll call them illegal immigrants. out of 100 people that are immigrants, illegal immigrants, and we're going to, you know, we'll call them illegal immigrants. One out of 100 of those people are worthwhile. One out of 100 of those people are valedictorians because there's one valedictorian to 100. And he says they weigh 130 pounds. I don't know where he gets 100. What does 130 pounds even mean? They weigh 130 pounds and they've got calves the size of cantaloupes because they've been hauling 75 pounds of marijuana across the desert.

I'm wondering, why are they carrying marijuana on their backs? Is it like a competition? Is it like it's like the marijuana-carrying Olympics? Is that what he – because you know what? Illegal immigrants can drive cars. Is that what he's – because you know what? Illegal immigrants can drive cars. Like they can cart drugs around if they so choose in a vehicle rather than carrying it on their back.

And why is it 75 pounds? Isn't like major drugs sold in kilos? Like don't they – like I mean how many kilos is 75 pounds? And what is he having in a duffel bag? Like I want to understand the logistics of this like sort of schlepping the 75 pounds of marijuana. I kind of want to know. First off, I want to know why they're doing it. Secondly, I kind of want to know how they're doing it.

Like, it seems like, I mean, it seems like he's been focusing a lot on their calves rather than anything else. I would focus on their calves, too, because they have to carry more than half their fucking body weight in weed. I know. Like, it would be huge. It's big, man. That's diesel.

It would be like carrying a fucking stinky green hay bale. Like, what the fuck? That's a ridiculous thing to say. How big would 75 pounds of weed have to be? This is a guy who thinks drug running involves running. It involves running. That's why their calves are huge. They're like joggers.

It involves running. It involves running. Like that's why their calves are huge. They're like joggers. As if this is actually how drugs are transported across the border by skinny people running fast. Like that's not how this happens. I mean he couldn't have a more unrealistic – and he's probably making – somebody suggested on Twitter when I posted this story like, oh, he's probably making a joke. It's like I watched the video and I don't think he's making a joke.

I think he's just fucking crazy. I just think he's crazy. If he's making a joke, it's the most tongue-in-cheek joke ever. Yeah. If it is a joke, Tom, you're right. He keeps his composure the entire time. He's like a fucking – I mean, he's totally stoic the entire time and never really cracks a smile or anything. He doesn't even like, you know, when you make a joke and we do it all the time, we get bitched out for it. We kind of chuckle, like we laugh at our own jokes,

right? We kind of chuckle to sort of get the other person to think, ha, this is something I'm saying that's funny. He doesn't even do that. He's just like, maybe he's the jagoff who gave us that iTunes rating. He's just so like unfunny and just like so stoic. He's just like – maybe he's the jagoff who gave us that iTunes rating. He's just so like unfunny and just like so stoic. He's just like you should not laugh at anything. But in any case, whether or not he's making a joke is irrelevant. What he's saying is that all – most of the people that are here illegally are criminals or they're despicable people that should not be here he at one point calls them pure and unpure yeah he's got some weird use of language he he uh elicits good and evil good and evil at the end of his at the end of his uh screed yeah um which is just really evil

evil it's evil like somebody comes over across the border and they're like, yeah, my family's fucking hungry and I want a better life for them. So I'm going to risk fucking life and limb and sever ties with my family to come over to another country where I don't probably speak the language immediately. And, you know, have to work in probably semi deplorable conditions for sub minimum wage in order to feed my family. What an asshole. Evil stamp. Like I'm getting out my fucking evil stamp and putting it right across that hardworking motherfucker's forehead. Right. Because none of those people exist.

Right. These are just these are just ne'er do wells that, you know, and we're we're on Ellis Island is the scale where you come in and you have to weigh your heart against the feather or whatever? It's like a new myth. Or even just like you have to be listing your good deeds from your other country and be like, well, seems kind of evil. Send them back. We don't fucking judge. I mean obviously if you committed a crime somewhere else when you're coming into our country legally, there can be some problems with that. And, you know, let's not, let's not neglect the idea that there are people that have committed crimes in their country that got through the, through into our country illegally. That fucking happens. But to

say that those people are, you know, that there's like a hundred thousand worthwhile people and there's 10 million non-worthwhile people, you know, the, you're basically calling them all criminals or all, you know, just ne'er-do-wells awful people. You're basically calling them all criminals or all just ne'er-do-wells awful people. You're an idiot. These people, like you said, they work shitty jobs for bad pay and they wind up without any of the benefits that we have as United States citizens. Half of them can't even call the police most of the time because they're afraid. So they're on the margins of society. They're living in deplorable conditions most of the time. How dare you say something like that, that these people are awful people?

You're an awful person, you jagoff. So Cecil, this story comes from Haratz. You nailed it. I think I did. I think I got that one. Yeah, when there's two A's, you got to really pronounce that H. That's when you just. Yeah, you just got to sort of let it go.

Right. It's weird. Yeah. I got to clean the spit off the microphone. Hang on a second. Ultra Orthodox protesters shatter bus windows after female passenger refuses to sit in back. Demonstrators in some place that I'm not going to pronounce block path of bus and smashed its windshield with a hammer before moving on to the other buses nearby.

All because a fucking woman wouldn't sit in the back of the bus. Yeah. Are you fucking kidding me? In 2013? We have to do this again? I know. In a civilized world, we really have to look around and be like,

oh, it's this shit again. We have to do this shit again. Fucking Rosa Parks. What the fuck? What the fuck are you doing? Yeah, like, it's so funny. One of the parts of this article, you know, you're right.

You know, it's a woman sitting in the front of the bus, and it's sort of like this unspoken rule where most people just agree to it that women shouldn't be in the back of the bus. And a woman asked her to go to the back of the bus. It wasn't like a dude. It was a woman who was like, hey, you should go to the back of the bus. And then the bus driver was like, you don't have to go back there. That's not a law. And then they freaked the fuck out.

And I'm going to read here. It says the bus was full because of vacation. When the driver stopped at a stop, four people in Haradi, I guess it's some sort of like, is that their tuxedo? Dress. Oh, no. Blocked the bus, the bus path, and began to bang on the windows with a hammer. The passengers got upset and there were, and there,

there were people with babies. The driver tried to flee the scene, but he couldn't because they were blocking the bus's path. And the first thing I saw, I was like, don't you have a bus? Like, how do you block the, what did they have a tank?

How do you block the pass of a path of a bus with a fucking 150 pound body? That's impossible. The bus is like 20 fucking tons. You know, I read the same thing. It reminds me of like, do you ever watch the old like motorcycle gang movies? And like the motorcycles would like surround the car and then they'd slow down and they force the car to stop. And it's like, wait a minute.

No, no, no. You misunderstand our power position here. Yeah. You don't have doors on your vehicle. Like, you're on the tippy one. I'm in the car. Yeah. I'll be okay.

You'll be road pizza. Yeah. Like, you're gonna stand in front of... And it's... You stand in front of me like with a fucking hammer? Were they just walking around with hammers?

They had it in their Harati. They're just like, hey, you never know, maybe you'll have to fix something or harass a woman for not going to the back of the bus. Hey, I'm a handyman on my spare time. What do you want? What a despicable, awful, unbelievable fucking culture they're generating.

I mean, that's just as, like, it's as bad as can be. It's like, we cover these same fucking morons that were spitting on women for not being dressed modestly enough when they were going to school. Right. And by women, I mean girls. Yeah, little girls. Yeah, not this is not a grown woman. And even I mean, it's deplorable when it's a grown woman.

It's even more deplorable when it's a little girl. And what is this for? What is what? What is the big fucking deal? There's no fucking mention of a bus in your book, dude. God didn't mention buses. So I don't know where you're getting it from.

The only reason you want to do it is to show women their place. You want to say, look, you sit behind us. You don't fucking talk. You don't fucking look at me. You make sure you're fucking covered up because if you're not, I'm going to get an erection. I'm going to be fucking mad. So you better get in the goddamn back of the bus. That's all it is. It's them just pushing someone around. It's them just being bullies. And you know what? Fuck you. So we got a new break thing. My wife came in and

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Fuck that. Let's be boldly inclusive. Not those timidly inclusive fuckers over at the Daily Mail. Sexually transmitted demons a menace, say teen exorcists. Transmitted demons a menace, say teen exorcists. These three young exorcist idiots have decided that demons can be sexually transmitted. And while that may be hot in certain circumstances, this comes from a documentary actually from Vice.com. Have you ever watched any of those from there, from Vice.com?

I've watched a couple of things from there, yeah. It's actually a pretty useful website to troll around on and look at. Like some of their shit is just awful, like super amateur hour awful. But some of their stuff is really kind of interesting to look at. And they have these dimwits on. And these are these – we covered these three exorcists a couple of years back, didn't we? Was it on Cognitive Dissonance or was it on – I don't remember if it was on Cognitive Dissonance or not, but we did the teen girl squad thing back then, too. They are teen girl squad, man.

And, you know, this whole idea that like demons can be sexually transmitted is just part of this, you know, hyper Christian sex fear that gets fucking spread around by these super Christians, you know, like make everybody as fucking afraid of sex and sexuality as possible. And I don't like and I'm always like, well, why? What do you guys have to gain from that? And I actually don't even know the answer to that. Like, what do they have to gain from this from like spreading this prudish fear of sexuality? Yeah, I guess I don't know either. I mean, I'm sure that there's probably a very reasonable answer to that.

I mean, I think, you know, probably one of the things they have to gain is bigger flocks. Because if you shun sexuality until you're married, then you're going to fuck like, you know, there's no tomorrow once you're married. Yeah, I guess that's true. And you're going to shit out a bunch of kids and you're going to have a fucking giant flock then. You know what I mean? Because they're going to have like five, six, seven kids because they never got a chance to sort of go buck wild beforehand

and they never learned about safe sex either. So they wind up with a ton of different kids afterwards and then they just wind up with a huge flock because of it and more people to tithe, I guess. The thing about this is, is that there, you know, I initially was dubious to this article about sexually transmitted demons, but I did, I did a little research, Tom. You just got to sort of bear with me here. I did do a little research.

You can do research? Yeah, it's possible. And there are a few sexually transmitted demons. I want to, I just want to mention a few. There's a harpy titus b that's one of them harpy titus there's aids modius is another one that one's bad that'll get you basil bumps that's another one and then the last one is uh gorgonorrhea so yeah that's that's that's that one i hear is tough you got to get a shot for that one that's just fucking

awesome that's all you know you've got it bad when you're like, Doctor, how is it? Do I have... They are legion. Oh, fuck! God, I got them all! Got them all.

Got them all! It's like fucking Pokemon. You're like, gotta catch them all, gotta catch them all. There's a good part of this, too. This Bob Larson guy says, demons can't just go into anybody they want to.

They have to have a legal right. A legal right. And I keep wondering like what the like how do they like get the legal right? There's long lines like standing in the court like I fill out the paperwork. Can I get in this one? Well, you know, I got to say, though, he answers that question because he says that if you sin, if you start doing drugs, I don't think drugs is one of the

sins, by the way. Like, is drugs one of the sins? It's not a commandment. I don't remember that. Like, thou shalt not toketh up is not one of the things. Thou shalt not doeth a bump. Like, what? I don't, not sure that's, but then you just throw that in there. Like, you can't do drugs. Okay. Which one?

Well, the ones that are currently illegal, obviously not the ones that will be. What if they, I don't know. So you gave, you start doing drugs or if you sin, then you will have stepped out of the umbrella of God's protection. And then you are vulnerable to catching a demon. Again, it's this idea of like catching them like a cold. It's like, oh, oh, dude, you gotta bless me right away. I got fucking demon boogers. It's just

fucking awful. You're like fucking sneezing out Slimer from your crotch. Well, you're not sneezing. Okay, this is a viewer who says, my house is haunted. There's moaning coming from the walls, lights turn on and off, the TV changes channels on its own, the beds move, stuff floats off tables,

mirrors break, and thereís sometimes a creepy fog. The ghosts look like people but have dark blue light around their feet and hands. What do I do?î If it was me, Iíd burn the house down and move on. But assuming you can't afford that, I don't believe in ghosts. I don't think the Bible supports the concept of people coming back to haunt houses and chains and all that stuff. You know, they're walking the halls because they were murdered and they're looking for rest and solace. But I do believe in demons. The Bible clearly says there's fallen angels and these demonic forces, and you need to get people to come and do an exorcism over that property and command those demons to leave. That's what you do. You take authority in the name of Jesus.

And if you can't do that, move. So this story comes from the raw story. And I actually find this story very comforting because Pat Robertson is a man of action. He's a man with a good plan, Cecil. He tells our he tells viewers with demons to burn their house down or get an exorcism. This is his plan. Somebody comes to you for advice and he's like, huh? Well, if that was me, I would burn my house down. Really? I would never burn my house down. It's not a thing that would cause me to burn my mouth.

Maybe like an infestation of spiders. I don't know. Like maybe now, not even then I would just call Orkin. Right. Maybe like an infestation of spiders. I don't know. Like maybe – no, not even then. I would just call Orkin. Right. You just like fumigate. You know, there's like – there's always a better option than like cleansing it with fire. Like that's like a weird pyromaniac thing to do.

I love the idea. It's just like – you know, the thing is most people don't own their houses. The bank owns your house. You pay and you eventually get the deed to your house. But the bank owns your house for a very long time. An average mortgage is 30 years long. So most people that are average-aged until they get – I mean if you buy a house at 20, that house is yours at 50 if you make all the payments. So you got to figure that most retirees might own their home, but the rest of the people are probably,

you know, unless you come into money or you figure out some sort of financial plan, you don't own your own home. You pay other people and they eventually give you, so burning it down, it's not your house to burn down. That's a jail sentence.

Dude, even if you own it. You burn your house down. You burn your own house down. You have no collateral anymore. Burning your house down. You burn your own house down. You have no collateral anymore. Burning your house down is always illegal, though. Like, most cities have a fucking rule that you can't just light your house on fire. That you can't just light your house on fire. Right?

Like, you can't. I don't think that they'd be real sympathetic as the fucking entire neighborhood went up in flames because it happened to be windy the day the demons showed up. The guy's right. He's like, so wait, you did this. You did this because of what? Because of what? Because Pat Robertson told you to. And again, like, isn't hell full

of fire? Yeah. What are you going to do to the demons? That's like throwing water on a fish. A fish you just be like thanks yeah that's great gonna leave i'll just and you do you have to burn all your shit can't the demon like just follow you out to your car like demons like walking behind you like as you're pouring the gas around the fucking perimeter of your house like i'll show you demon and demons like i'll just i'll just walk out of

the house are they bound to the house in some way like i'm stuck they don't exist so who cares right but like this mythology is so crazy like this and i also like too that he also kind of subtly makes fun of poor people right because what he says is if it was me i'd burn the house down but assuming you can't afford that. She's basically being like, well, I'm fucking rich and I'll just buy another house. Actually, the listeners or the viewers will buy him another house.

Exactly, right? Right. Because he didn't fucking work for that money and he's got to get his diaper changed somehow. You know, this is also another funny part, too. He says, I don't believe in ghosts. I don't think the Bible supports the concept of people coming back to haunt houses. And I'm thinking like, when did you believe in supporting evidence? Yeah.

When did that fucking come about? I love to like, I don't believe in ghosts. You're reading a 2000 year old book and you're like, Hmm, you know, it didn't mention it. So doesn't exist. Yeah. What about the Holy Ghost? Yeah. Like, is he just, he's just like, oh, that one.

But that one's not a house haunting ghost. That's more of a, that's more of an apparition. I'm not sure. Like, what is that falling to just a different category? You don't believe in ghosts? Motherfucker, you think that you can fucking nail somebody to a tree kill him and he'll pop back up in three days but ghosts are outside the realm of your fucking possibilities i can't you know i can't imagine that this guy gets airtime i mean are they going to keep him up there until he's like

half his mouth works and he's drooling out the side of the other half they're gonna keep him up there until he has like a stroke and he's like filling his pants on fucking screen and he's just like, give me money. Like, I mean, really, is he going to be like fucking all completely fucking Parkinson's doubt at one point and they're just going to keep him on the air? How do you keep a guy on that makes so little sense? This is going to be you and I in our later years on the show. Nobody's going to listen to us then anyway. Nobody's listening now. Well, there you go.

Abortions for all. Very well. No abortions for anyone. Abortions for some. Miniature American flags for others. This comes from the Raw Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others. Yay! This comes from the Raw story.

North Dakota pro-life group hands out creepy toy fetuses to kids at state fair. You know, there's a plus side to this article, Cecil, actually quite a big one. And that is that this happened in North Dakota because there's only fucking seven people in North Dakota. Well, the other plus side, too, is that they actually had a carnival game where you threw the fetuses around bottles. They had little umbilical cords. And if you got three fetuses on there, you got the teddy bear.

There's bonuses to this. You could actually trade in three of the smaller fetuses for a later term fetus. Oh, yeah, yeah. Eventually work your way up to an actual doll. Right? Yeah. And you could trade in a whole bunch of the dolls for Pat Robertson.

You just need a lot of them. Yeah, you're going to need a lot of them. I feel, you know, they're giving out these creepy little fucking fetuses, right? These little, you know, non-formed humans. And they're giving them out to try to tell little children who would accept a toy from you that they shouldn't get abortions. Right. The target group that you should be going after is the six and seven year old people out there who just are fucking rampantly at this point and are just fucking they're just rife with abortions. You should see how many abortions six and seven year olds get. It's just amazing.

Oh, the primary school, you know, pregnancy rate is pretty high. Yeah. They have one in the nurse's office at every school. They just have a fucking I got a whole fucking birthing center in the kindergarten it's erupts they're shooting kids out of their whole thing like there you go it's they get fucking you can get a fucking midwife in third grade who gives a shit just to have a baby out there kids think it's a tetherball this uh you know appeal to the kids stuff that these evangelists do. And that's really what this is.

This is evangelizing. You know, make no mistake about it. This isn't somebody with a political opinion. I just read it. There's an interesting article on the Friendly Atheist blog where an atheist pro-life individual tried to join a pro-life group. And because they weren't a religious person, they were turned down from every pro-life organization in their state. They could not join. They're like, I am aggressively pro-life. And they're like, well, but we're a Christian ministry. Like there's so fucking in bed with each other. They're so tied together. And this is part of this evangelizing. And it's clearly like, it's clearly a political evangelizing,

you know, around the topic of abortion. But they're using that same methodology of get them while they're young, you know, get the kids while they're young. I'm reminded, and I know I've said this before on the show, but I'm reminded of like when the down the street neighbors try to evangelize to my kid by inviting them to a party. It's like every little kid likes a free thing. Like you take a kid to a fair or a carnival or a grocery store and you put a free thing in their hand. Like I got a free thing and they're super happy. Yeah.

So they're all going to take it and it's a doll and it's like hand. Like, I got a free thing. And they're super happy. Yeah. So they're all going to take it. And it's a doll. And it's like, oh, cool. I got a toy. And it's just such a fucking evil, manipulative, fucking subversive thing to do. Yeah, it's awful. And, you know, the idea here, too, is like, you know, I mean, while you're, you know, subverting the kids or whatever, and you're trying to, like, you know, convince them or whatever. How many parents are you angering by walking up?

You know what I mean? Cause it's not like the kids are wandering around the fair by themselves. They didn't get dropped off there early in the afternoon and get picked up late at night. You know, these, these people, how, how, what kind of fucking chutzpah do you have to have to walk up to these people and be like, Hey, you know what I'm going to do right in front of you? to walk up to these people and be like, hey, you know what I'm gonna do?

Right in front of you, I'm gonna fucking profess this really hot button issue. And I'm gonna tell, I'm gonna basically come right out, bear my side of this to you and your child and try to convince your child through this manipulation that mine is the right side. Like that's a fucking really abhorrent and shitty thing to do to somebody.

You know, putting your kid, putting the kid on the spot, putting the parent on the spot, having them make. You know, now I've got to have a difficult conversation with my child about abortion when they're six or seven. They're not ready for that shit. You know, it's like walking up and handing them a fucking dildo, you asshole. No, I mean mean you're exactly right it's a big fuck you it's a big dick in the ass to all the parents who are walking around

it's like oh let's go to the state fair it'll be super fun until some fucking crazy abortion dude comes up the pro-choicers would be every bit as wrong it makes no difference this isn't even about the coat hangers it'd be awful terrible you're a dick It makes no difference. Like, this isn't even about the, it's just. If they were washing our hand in our coat hangers, it'd be awful.

It'd be terrible. You're all dead. Oh, be nice. Oh, my son doesn't stand a chance. The whole world's gone gay. Oh, my God. What's happening now? We work hard.

We play hard. Everybody dance now. This is the greatest story of the week for fucking sure this is from right wing watch fewer than 10 people show up i like this fewer than 10 they didn't count like it's not quite 10 not quite 10 show up for ex-gay pride event that expected. Hip hip hooray. That they expected to draw thousands. American Family Radio's Sandy Rios spoke to ex-gay pride month organizer Christopher Doyle about this ex-gay lobby day on Capitol Hill. And they said that there were going to be thousands, Cecil, thousands of people showing up or or less than one dozen.

The picture is awesome. The picture has more media than it has ex gays. But they were chanting. They're like, hell no, we won't blow. Hell no. It was awesome. If you watch the last video here, this dude is so funny when he's talking about like – he's like, I'm an ex-gay. And he's saying like the pro-gay bigotry is like what he says is like the pro-gay hate speech where people will tell you that it's OK to be gay and I've changed.

And it's like – what I want to say about it, guys, would be like, cool, you changed. Let's just say you did. I don't – I have no idea, cool, you changed. Let's just say you did. I don't know. I have no idea. Sure, you changed. Whatever. Matters not. But what he says is he's like, you can't tell me who I choose to love.

And you're like, no, I can't. Absolutely not. But you can't do that either. I know. That's where the shit is going right over your head. You can't do that. I do get to choose to tell you who you can and can't strip rights away from. You know, that's one thing we get to do. And the answer to

that is nobody. You don't get to strip rights away from anyone. And then you also, we can't, you know, I could tell you who you should tolerate and tolerance goes for everyone. If they're not, you know, if they're not infringing on your rights, then who gives a shit? But you're going to go out there and you're going to say that, you know, there's this pro-gay bigotry and there's this, you know, you can't tell me who I choose to love. You know what? I watched a photo series that was posted. It was the Minnesota just had a, had a whatever, they passed a law and they had one of the, I think it was the mayor just married a shit ton of people all in one night. They started at one time and they finished at like 6 in the morning. They just started going through.

And it was – I mean it was awesome. Like all the pictures are beautiful and you just see get a lump in your throat, looking at all these people who have been on the margins of society for so long because people have said that you can't get married and then they finally get an opportunity to be like everybody else. And we've talked about the reasons why they want to get married. It's not about the good stuff. It's not about the holding hands and the weddings and all that because you can have a fucking ceremony and you can have a party without actually getting married. and you can have a party without actually getting married. It's all the little stuff that's really important about being married, like being able to decide on estates,

being able to be co-owners and be on people's insurance and all that other stuff that goes into being married. Fact is, is that you look at these people and you look at how happy they are and you think, you know, what the fuck are we fighting about? Look at these people and look at how happy they are. Why do you want to deprive them of their happiness? Why do you want to deprive them of their happiness? Why do you want to deprive them of this moment? Who are you to say they can't get married? Why do you care so much whether or not it's two 60-year-old women who want to get married with each other?

Who cares? Why is that a big deal? And this guy is basically saying, well, you can't tell me who to love. Well, neither can you man yeah and it's not like it's not hate speech to be like hey dude i'm gay oh okay that's cool where's the hate speech how is that hate speech it's not hate speech to say it's okay to be gay how is how in the world could you possibly say that that's like a hateful like i'm tolerant of your worldview oh you're full of hate like motherfucker i'm just as tolerant of your worldview because i don't give

a shit who you fuck yeah i don't care i don't care who you fuck how you fuck them where you fuck them just it's fine if they're a consenting adult it's fine whatever you do with them i don't care if you fuck them in the ear every night makes no fucking difference to me at all they're a consenting adult you're a consenting adult fucking makes i don't who cares who possibly could care it's none of my business and it's the least important thing about a relationship for the public consumption right right it who who could possibly give a shit what your genitals do? It's not meaningful. Like I love, too. It's like their signs are great. Like ex gays demand to be heard. No, there's seven are in your goddamn group. That's how much demand you cause. I totally agree about the sex thing.

It's not like you go in on Monday morning at work and everybody's sitting around and they're like, so, how many times you fucked your wife this weekend? I know. They've never been asked that question by anyone ever. Ever, ever, ever.

People say, hey, what'd you do this weekend? Or did you and Sarah do something this week? They'll say something like that. Yeah, we went out and hung out. I never mentioned sex. I'm never like, yeah, we fucked like three times, once in the afternoon, twice at night. Same old stuff. Came in her you know those sorts of things you know i mean like nobody nobody fucking asked those questions and nobody cares about the answers i know the fact is is like you know they they care about the person that you're with and they say hey

did you go do something this weekend yeah i hung out and i went over on a boat and i fucking you know fished or whatever or i went for a drive or i you know whatever all the things that you do on your free time that's what they care about nobody cares about whether or not you're banging somebody so why do you care so much about other people banging the only reason you care so much is because you've oppressed yourself you're so frustrated because you want to be who you want to be but you can't because you got to hold up this sign that says I'm not gay anymore. I know. It's such a fucking terrible.

Because of the peer pressure of your tiny, tiny group. When you succumb to the peer pressure of seven people. Yeah. When you're surrounded by a whole world that is coming quickly to the realization that no one cares. That's exactly what you're saying. Like, wait a minute. We made a big deal about this? Yeah.

Really? We have other shit to worry about. You know, like this is fucking croissants in Syria. Who gives a shit? It is. So we start out the email section this week. We want to thank April and Man Chicken for their delicious donations. They pledged their hard-earned money and or chicken.

And we are very, very happy that they can give us some money. And we're always happy when people go out of their way to donate to this show. So seriously, thank you both very much. Yeah, thank you. Cecil, can we get a donate chicken button? No? That's not a thing? The thing is pretty much PayPal turns our donations automatically into hot wings, so it doesn't matter.

That would be fucking great if you could show up to a bank and there's just teller tubes full of hot wings so it doesn't matter that would be fucking great if you could show up to a bank and like there's just teller tubes full of hot wings hot wings i love it so we got a couple of things about uh zimmerman tom we got a bunch of different emails about it and uh we wanted to say a few things about it the first is is that um i want to say that I was wrong. Um, and I was corrected by a couple of people. The stand your ground law was not used as a defense. That was initially what he was planning on using, but it was not used as a defense and that was never really brought up in the trial. So that was my mistake. And I, and I apologize. That's not something that, um, that he decided to use. He used a self-defense defense. And the other thing that I wanted to

say too is that there was some back and forth about what the sort of facts in the trial are. And a couple people did point out that he was told to go back to his car and he said yes. But at that point, he had already followed somebody. So he was already out of his car and already sort of jogging behind someone when they started a run, Trevon, when he started a run. So that's what – I had messed that up too and said that he had followed him and disobeyed a direct order. He did not disobey a direct order. We don't know if – let me rephrase that. We don't know if he disobeyed a direct order. We don't know if let's let me let me rephrase that. We don't know if he disobeyed a direct order. He said OK to the police officer on the end of the phone when he

when he when he hung up with 9-1-1. We don't know that he didn't continue on or go do something else. All we know is that right after that, Trevon was shot. So I wanted to make those two corrections before we get involved in some of the other things that other people were saying. You know, a big bone of contention here was that this was basically just a cut and dry case of self-defense. A lot of people sent us back, you know, hey, this is the account of what happened. And then they relay an account, you know, where Trevon was the aggressor. Trevon had Zimmerman pinned down on the ground, was beating him, bashing his head into the ground. And that Zimmerman pulled his gun in self-defense and shot him.

And I will say maybe that's what happened. Maybe it's not what happened. Yeah, sure. And then again, like you said, reasonable doubt. Sure, maybe that happened. Yeah. That is an entirely believable thing that may have may have happened. I think that the thing that raises our ire and we were talking about this before the show

is the the issue of invulnerability that comes with people walking around carrying guns. Things escalate far too quickly. We don't know what happened with Zimmerman. It's very possible that everything that Zimmerman said is true and is honest and is an accurate retelling of what actually happened. The eyewitness accounts are pretty fucking sketchy. Nobody was really clear on, oh, yeah, I saw the entire chain of events and here's what happened. But regardless, the issue I think that you and I have, Cecil, is that once you once you establish that somebody is walking around with a gun. Trolling around for trouble, which is I mean, I mean, that's what you're doing.

Like you're the fucking neighborhood watch. You put a gun in your belt and you troll around looking for ne'er-do-wells looking for bad guys right yeah if he wasn't if he was not looking if he was not looking for some sort of trouble he would have stayed in his car and he wouldn't have had a gun those are the two things i think that sort of indicate that he was out there looking for something to escalate and things escalate well beyond the point of reason and control when guns are introduced so casually into – and I say that meaningfully, so casually into these encounters. People, in our opinion, and I know that there's a ton of people that are going to disagree with us, and that's OK. In our opinion, people don't need to conceal and carry. In our opinion, people don't need to conceal and carry like that.

You don't we just don't need citizens to be randomly armed walking around. I think it generates a road rage sort of a culture. Right. Like, you know, we were talking about this before. You're walking down the street. Somebody bumps into you. Oh, I'm sorry. No, I'm sorry. You walk on. Right. Everybody's very polite when it's when when you're man to man,man person to person when you're when you've got an even playing field everybody is very generally speaking polite put two people in a car and have somebody cut somebody off now all of a sudden you're surrounded by this big metal cage you've got 2,000 pounds that can go 100

miles an hour surrounding you and people get a bigger dick when they get in that car. And they start driving more aggressively, and they start weaving, and they start yelling and flipping each other off because now all of a sudden there's a feeling of invulnerability because they have this artificial feeling of power. And I think guns are analogous to that. I think when you put a gun in somebody's waistband or on their belt or in their fucking boot or wherever you want to carry it, all of a sudden people are a lot less worried about getting into trouble. People don't necessarily feel like they need to de-escalate a situation because you've got that fucking ace up your sleeve all the time.

And hey, if you've got the right to be in this situation, I've got the right. I don't have to back down. And I've got this ace up my sleeve if shit goes tits up. That's a bad call. That's a that's a recipe for people getting not hurt, but killed, killed. A lot of this stuff when people are like, oh, you guys are so wrong on Zimmerman. It's this it's this it's this. You know what? The guy was out looking for trouble and it escalated and he shot somebody and he murdered him. And I don't want to live in a country where somebody should just be able to walk down the street and get into a fist fight and escalate it to a murder. I think that that is a bad, a bad call. And I just, I think that's a

shitty thing to have happen. I think it's, I think it's a really shitty thing to have happen. So when we initially talked about it, I was pissed off, but I think I was wrong in the reasons I was pissed off because as, as was pointed out to me, there's a couple of things here that were not used by him. The stand your ground rule, in my opinion, adds fuel to this fire. While it's not the thing he used, it gives people a reason to think that somehow their actions are justified when they can escalate up to a different level of violence. And I think that that is a bad precedent to set anywhere, period. You should never be looking to escalate violence ever, ever, ever. It should always be looking to de-escalate the violence or letting professionals handle

the violence. That's what should be happening. That's what we should be training people to do. We should not be training people to put guns in their waistband and walk around because some kid had, you know, they thought some kid was a ne'er-do-well. You know, this guy's not a trained police officer. He's not somebody who is, who understands, you know, body language or anything like that. He's just some dude with a fucking gun. And he picked the wrong kid because this kid was not a ne'er-do-well. So, you know, whether or not the whole situation went out of control and spiraled out of control,

I don't dispute that. But I think that the reason why this situation spiraled out of control is because there was a gun there. And that's why it happened. So we got an invitation to be on a podcast called Skeptically Challenged. We are hopefully planning on being on that podcast in the future. And we got a chance to talk to Ross a little bit. And Ross sent us an email and said, first he talked about an episode that happened a long time ago. So I won't tell you about what he had to say in that email. But he asked if we would be interested. So we're going to put a link to the skeptically challenged sort of links that he has, the one into YouTube, the one that, uh, at Facebook.

And then he also has a, uh, a webpage. So we're going to, we're going to link to that Ross and, uh, and we'll be in future contact with you. Good luck with your show. And we'll let you guys know if we get a date schedule. We got an email from, uh, from Nerman and Nerman. It was a really great email. He says he's been listening. He's been listening since about, uh, episode 80. He's Swedish and he lives in England and he's going to be in Chicago on business. And he just said, Hey, if you guys are going to be around, I'd like to buy you guys some, you know, hot wings and beer if you're around. And, uh, and while this is a, you know, an absolutely awesome offer, thank you so much. This, these next two weeks for me are going to be absolutely killer. And I know

Tom, you're never free for anything ever. But, you know, thank you very much, Nerman. We really appreciate the offer. Yeah, I'm really sorry we can't take you up on it. I think it would be awesome to meet you, but the timing is just shit. And I don't turn down beer at Hot Wings. I know. Lightly. I normally fill my gaping maw with those things whenever I can. But it's incredibly generous. Thank you very much for the offer. We just wanted to acknowledge that. I know. I don't lightly. I normally fill my gaping maw with those things whenever I can.

But it's incredibly generous. Thank you very much for the offer. We just wanted to acknowledge that. Thank you. We're going to toss it out to Stu in the Middle East here. Hello and welcome to Middle East News. Saudi court orders severing of defendant's leg. A Saudi court has ordered the severing of a local man's leg after he caused the amputation of the leg of another Saudi when he shot him during an argument. The court left the door open for a reversal of the verdict in case the defendant pays Dia, blood money, to the victim, who is demanding 1.5 million rials. Talal al-Shammari shot Mohammed al-Mutairi in the leg during a fight in the eastern Saudi town of Dammam several years ago. Doctors at a government hospital decided to amputate Mutairi's leg during a fight in the eastern Saudi town of Dammam several years ago. Doctors at a government hospital decided to amputate Muteri's leg to save his life.

Mediation efforts by a number of tribe leaders and dignitaries have succeeded in persuading Muteri's family to accept Diyam. Shamari's family is now appealing for public help to pay the sum and save their son's leg, the Arabic Daily said. So thanks and stay tuned for all your amputation needs. Have a nice day. Well, that seems like a reasonable response. Yeah, you know, just like it's fucking it's the, you know, saw

your own leg off fucking World War II, what is it, Civil War doctor response, right? I love that they're taking like a metaphor that literally. Eye for an eye. Well, it actually is about like a metaphor that literally. Like eye for an eye. Well, it actually is about like a just punishment.

It's a punishment to fit a crime. No, we're actually cutting off fucking legs. Like that's awesome. They think they're all salamanders. They're just going to grow them back. Nicholas sends an email and he says, I would like your advice on fracking. I've looked at information, but it seems to get biased information one way or the other. He's like, I'm a lefty from near Lincoln in England, and I would love to hate fracking as it is more of the big corporations thinking about money before people, but I'm just

not sure. Is fracking good, bad, or somewhere in between? Here's the thing about fracking. I don't know enough about it. And Tom? Yeah, I've tried to know enough about it and I've been unsuccessful in knowing enough about it. Um, there's a couple of, uh, intelligence squared debates that I've listened to, um, that revolve around, uh, fracking and fracking related issues. Um, there was a natural gas one relatively recently, and then there was one just on fracking itself. And I listened to both of them, and I found myself woefully unable to make a decision on how I feel about the issue. I think the problem is that there's really good points on both, like really legitimately good points on both sides of the argument. And I don't think one of them for me comes out so much stronger than the other.

I think energy concerns and financial concerns are real and significant. And we don't have right now a lot of viable third sources of energy. Like we're fucking fossil fuels. It's like that's it. That's what we're generating our energy on. Like the rest of it is marginal. But then there's some fucking incredibly persuasive problems with fracking. So I'd encourage you to listen to the debates. Intelligence Squared.

There's a U.S. version and there's the good version. So you can listen to both of them. I listen to them regularly. I think they're great. And if you make up your mind, fucking send me an email because I can't make up mine. I mean I feel like – I feel the same way you do, Tom. I feel like I naturally want to be against it mainly because it feels like you're sort of fucking with the environment in a way that seems unchangeable. But at the same time, you're right,

there are other concerns there. I personally think that we should be looking at renewable sources of energy, and there's lots of clean renewable sources of energy out there. This seems like another bad idea. But it's not that I know that it's harmful. It's that I think that the chance of it being harmful is still there. And if there's no chance, I mean, what's the chance of, you know, what's the worst thing that's going to happen? Oh, God, we had a solar cell spill. That's not going to happen. So, you know, like, let's look into some other things that can help us along.

That's where I stand on it. We got an email from Andrew. And Andrew is in Canada, and he said, hey, guys, Kingston is a city. And I think he should have put quotes around that, Tom, that sort of city. It has a population of about 125,000 people. I know that's small compared to some of your American megacities

or just an American city, Andrew. And he says it's the 11th biggest city in the province of Ontario. And it's the 25th in all of Canada. And we were looking just out of curiosity when we read the email and we were talking before the show, 125,000 people isn't small compared to a megacity. It's an average suburb. Like it'sacity. It's an average suburb. Like it's not an average suburb. It's a pretty good-ish sized suburb.

But it's not like it's – I mean you would not describe that as a city. Like you're not like going to the city of Naperville. That's 143,000 people. That's a city. Yeah, it's a city in name. Right. It's – I mean – a it used to be a village for crying out loud and it's still set up like a village it's still villagey like there's a

fucking riverwalk it's it's got a fucking it's got a duke or something that runs it it's like a county there's a count there's they still have a pillory in the town square they got a crier who walks around you know swinging the bell. It's four o'clock. The other thing that nobody sent us an email on is the Deep South comment. Nobody was like, yeah, well, Kingston is the Deep South of Canada or whatever. Right, yeah. They just fucking recognize like, no, if it's fucking racist shithead hillbillies from the Deep South, that's American Explorer. Hillbillies from the deep south, that's American Explorer.

We got an email from Dave Thomas that included the – at the beginning of the show, we played a glory hole song. That was Dave, Dave from Great Britain. And Dave, actually, I could understand him because he was singing Hillbilly, and I could totally understand him. I speak Hillbilly? Yeah, man. When you speak Hillbilly, actually, every time you call, you should just speak hillbilly because I understand you just fine. But yeah, he left that song. It was him and Ricky. They made that song.

So thank you, Ricky and Dave, for your delightfully dirty song. And as Tom said earlier, what has our podcast become? The whole time, it's like this has gone off the rails. Yeah. Oh, we got an email from Dave, and Dave says, Hey guys, glory to hell, my name's David, I'm in the UK, I love your show. However, I do have one minor problem.

Recently you started playing audio clips and talking over them. Now, even though the stuff you say is funny, I always can't hear the other audio. So any chance you could stop the audio when you make a comment? No, we're not going to do that. But I will say this, David, and, you know, like I'm not trying to be a dick, but I will say this.

You know, you can find, as you listen to in the beginning of the – in the middle of the show, you can find every single story we do and almost all the clips. So I would say every clip we do is fine. You can find it very easily, uh, in the show notes. So you just look at the story we're talking about, stop the podcast, go to dissonance pod.com, go to the episode, and then just listen to the thing fully and then come back and you can hear us, you know, yammering over it and being idiots. We found, we have actually gotten a lot more people to say that they actually love that we do that. They think it's a lot more, a lot more fun and funnier.

So that's why we keep doing it. So we've discovered that whatever we do is the wrong thing for somebody. So I think this is just the wrong thing for you, David. Sorry. It's an easily fixable problem though, David. I mean, you can easily just, you can, all those clips are available. Tom, this, this is something very interesting. I've been, you know, I've been, I've been fat for a long time. So, you know, I think I'm going to do this.

Yeah. This is a, somebody linked, linked this to us. This is a prayer to help you lose unhealthful excess weight. And I'm going to read part of this. So everybody, first, close your eyes in a quiet place and breathe deeply. Focus upon the excess weight and hold the intention of having a conversation with it. Silently ask the excess weight, why are you with me? What purpose are you serving? Energy. Listen to the answer, which may surprise you. Most likely, the excess weight will tell you that it's trying to protect you from...

The excess weight won't fucking talk. It won't say anything. You can't ask fat tissue questions. You can, however, fold your stomach into the shape of a mouth and make it talk that way. Oh, sure, yeah. Draw the circles around your nipples and make the big party. Wear a big giant top hat over the top part of your torso and walk

around. Yeah, that's totally feasible. I like it. That's how I spend Sunday. I mean... That's actually how I go to work. You will feel lighter after this conversation, she says. No, I'm not going to feel lighter after anything. The only way for me to feel lighter is to get some of those, like, hooks from fucking Dune that, like, help to hold you up.

Like repulsors? So I wanted to mention that we got an iTunes review that just fucking stuck in my craw, and I want to read it. This is by Stinky Giblets. He says, I keep giving this show a chance, and every time it bites me in the arse. Who the fuck says arse? Me? I don't know. The content is always informative and interesting, and I genuinely like the hosts, hence my repeat listening.

Hence my repeat listening. But the forced over laughter is distracting, and I feel like I'm watching a sitcom with a laugh track or listening to a schlocky morning radio show. These two laugh way too hard at each other's lines. They're both clever and funny, but they constantly react to each other's – to one another's mildly funny comments like they're hearing pure comedy gold every time. It is equivalent to a crowd cheering for the kickoff at a football game with the same enthusiasm they put into cheering for a touchdown. It doesn't feel organic, and ultimately it becomes a sore thumb of the conversation they have. Again, I'm not saying they aren't funny.

I really like them. Listen for yourself and see if you recognize what I'm talking about now that you've read this. Maybe it's just me. I just want to say to Stinky Giblets, stop fucking listening, dude. Don't give us a second try. Don't give us a third try. Don't give us a fourth try.

Go fucking away, dude. You don't have to listen to our show. I don't fucking want you to listen to our show. If you think that we ruin the show by laughing, don't fucking listen, man. Why the fuck would you even leave a comment like this? You're a jagoff. Go away. Fucking leave. Don't come back. That goes for anybody who doesn't

like the show. If you don't like the show, fucking, you know, I want to say God bless you, but it's an atheist show. But whatever. You know, best of luck. Good luck to you. Go somewhere else where you're going to enjoy yourself. I certainly don't want you to spend an hour of your time being like, man, this show is okay. But it really bites me in the arse.

Like, fuck you. And, you know, that's the thing is like people like this, they are just so unfunny. They have never been funny in their life. They've never had a conversation where somebody has made them laugh. So they just think it's not natural. It's not natural to laugh when you're around somebody who you genuinely enjoy talking to well i'm sorry buddy i don't know what to tell you other than you're just probably an unfriendly unfunny person go somewhere else yeah i can't think of what we have to gain from having you

as a listener if you don't enjoy the show like and what do you have to gain from making it all the way to the end like you made it to the end. It's like, this isn't a fucking marathon. It's like you made it to the end. You're like, I accomplished a thing. It's like,

you made it to the end. You didn't accomplish anything. You didn't read the fucking Iliad, dude. You listen to us. Yammer. When I make it to the end of this show, that's an achievement.

Yeah. When you make it to the end of the show, you just wasted your time. Yeah. We want to close the show out with a message we got from Thor. Thor's links are going to be on our Web page. So for this episode, episode one, 10. So you can check us out.

Check Thor's links out there. Thor left a excellent version of the skeptics creed. Yeah, it's so cool. It's fucking Thor-worthy. Yeah, I mean, first off, awesome fucking name. I know. Secondly, awesome version of the Skeptic's Creed. We're going to let Thor play us out.

He's got a couple things to say. First, a plug he wants to do, which we're going to keep in, but we're going to end with him playing and singing the Skeptic's Creed. Hey, guys. First off. Glory hole. Glory hole. Glory hole.

Glory hole. Glory hole. Glory hole. Glory hole. Second, I have attached a Skeptic's Creed to this message that hopefully you'll like. Third, I'm wondering if you guys might be able to help me promote a show that I'm doing. I'm releasing my third album. It's an album of Native American folktales set to art rock music, and I'm doing it at the Des Plaines Theater, September 22nd at three o'clock

in the afternoon. It's a Sunday afternoon, just outside of Chicago. Thank you so much, and now for my version of the Skeptic's Creed. Got her mommy issue. Hypno-Babylon bullshit. Coached in scientition. Double bubble toil and trouble. Pseudo-Quasi-Alternative. Acupunctuatinguating pressurized stereogram pyramidal free

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Absolutely. It makes no difference. Like, this isn't even about that. It's just. If they were walking around handing out coat hangers, it'd be awful. Terrible. Little vacuums. And there we go. And we just went over the edge. That's awesome. Fucking little vacuums. And there we go.

We're off the fucking rails. And we just went over the edge. That's awesome. Fucking little vacuums. Oh, shit. It's like a Flobie. Oh, no. It's the Cuisinart of abortion.

Oh, no. Oh, shit. It's the Cuisinart of abortion Oh no Oh shit It's the worst thing It's like a vacuum and a juicer This is all shit that cannot go in the show Oh my god that's terrible That's really terrible There's no way we can put that in the show sounds like a table so when you turn it on

it's the worst will it blend ever you just drop in fetuses will it blend oh man you gotta put some marbles in there or something to make it Oh, man. Oh, shit. Fucking marble. You got to put some marbles in there or something to make it challenging at least, you know?

Fucking abortion with a flow beat. Good God. I handed out coat hangers. Jesus. We're off the rails. Yeah, we are. That's all right. I got nothing left.

No, no, that's it. Well, I'll just try to transition out of that as best I can.