Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 146: We Would Science the F**k Out of Some Science

Episode Date: April 14, 2014

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Want to stream Cognitive Dissonance to your Android or iPhone? Buy the app! Go to DissonancePod.com and click on the link on the right-hand side of the page. Each purchase helps support the show. Hey guys, it's Howard from Mentoring. About the whole abstinence-only program thing you were mentioning on the show? Yeah, that is bullshit, and let me tell you why in the most terse way possible. I live in a very small
Starting point is 00:00:33 town in Michigan, as you know, and I have literally watched them in these abstinence programs just teach girls that their work is based off the sex and that they shouldn't fuck around and they don't tell the dudes not to do anything and then you know i i woke up one day and i realized that there were a bunch of kids in school and they had the same father there were like entire classrooms where there'd be several kids who were who all had the same father because you know people were fucking stupid and no one told the the same father, because, you know, people were fucking stupid, and no one told the guys to keep their pants, but, you know, they shamed the women, especially the churches, it's, it's fucking sad, so, yeah, it's all bullshit, glory hole, motherfuckers. Hi, uh, Tom Cecil, yeah, this is Barbara Streisand from L.A. and the movies and the records and, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Well, I'm kind of making a sandwich right now, but I'd like to give you guys a rendition of Glory Hold Jesus. I mean, you know, if you want to use it or whatever. Just for your consideration. And, um, hold on, I've got to put this mayonnaise down. Okay, here we go. Who's that guy on the other side of the glory hole? It's Cheetah. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 00:02:03 I just had to give you guys a call. Love the show, Glory. Bye. Hey, Tom and Cecil. Aaron from London here. Two things. Firstly, it was a nice change to get someone competent on your program, a real scientist last week, Dr. Dave.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Very good. Secondly, about the States, there's a lot of retards, there's a lot of idiots out there, and you guys do give me faith. So, glory, huh? Bye-bye. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. This is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way.
Starting point is 00:03:09 We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there is no welcome mat. This is episode 146 of cognitive dissonance and we are recording this at uh starting at 10 46 p.m on a saturday it's gonna be a good one this is our time to shine i will point out cecil that lately i have been going to bed well before 10 46 p.m Lately, I have been going to bed well before 1046 p.m. because I have been getting up at like five for the last week. So I am running on fumes.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Well, with the way your body metabolizes things, I assume you're running on fumes all the time. Yeah, no, fumes are what the rest of you have to run on when I exhume them. Yeah, actually. Yeah, that's... No, I'm basically running on biodiesel, actually. It turns out you can drink that stuff. It's a little harsh going down, but once you coat the belly with it, it's pretty solid. So, Cecil, in positive news, I just want to point out that the foam for our Glory Hole Studios is in, and it is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:04:32 It's fucking awesome. I have to tell the story because it really cracks me up. These two boxes show up, and box is the most loose term for what actually arrived in the mail. It was like the opposite of amazon right because like you get like a sd card from amazon and they ship in a box the size of a coffin for a fat man it's like the size of your house you literally can't even get it in they have to like they have to like drop it from space with a parachute to get out of your door what are the ups trucks that has to beep when it backs up drops it off you know like just put it in a whole ups truck and tape the back and they send it but this like we ordered i i ordered uh uh six six by six foot panels of acoustic egg crate foam uh to to go in this room
Starting point is 00:05:21 to cover all of the four walls of this room um and i was real excited i thought it was going to take like 14 days to process and arrived in like five days and when it arrived my wife sends me this picture like this weird boxes showed up what is this stuff so these boxes are like fucking held together by fucking spit and anger like it's just cardboard like wrapped together and like all taped crazily and so i go to unwrap the first one like you cut open the box and it like immediately begins to like bulge it's like like the box is like just barely containing it and as i unwrap this thing from its fucking layer after endless layer of saran wrap like it's like
Starting point is 00:06:06 straining at itself it's fucking struggling desperately to get out and with the the cut of the scissors that finally uh released the egg crate foam wall fucking whatever and allowed air to rush in that thing took on gargantuan proportions it just immediately began to expand like to the point where it's like that great stuff like sprayed into a bucket like bigger and bigger and bigger and all i could think is that at some point someone's first day at work you know they were like they handed him this tiny box and this huge thing of foam like all right billy stuff it in there i i you know you gotta wonder how they actually do it you know what i mean like they must have some sort of like because i saw there's an unboxing
Starting point is 00:06:55 if you're interested go to our facebook page tom unboxes one of these things on video and it's ridiculous the amount of fucking saran wrap on that thing. So hold it. You're spinning it for four minutes straight. It was awesome. And then it just immediately just falls and just starts opening. It's amazing that they packed it in. But, you know, it's funny because we're kind of getting ahead of ourselves in a way. A lot of the listeners may not have heard if they're not on the Facebook page. page. We spent last Saturday building a room, a small room in your basement with some of the Patreon money. We spent some of that money. We bought some lumber and we built a small room in
Starting point is 00:07:34 your basement that you're going to be moving your studio down. And it it has a glory hole in it. So it's glory hole studios. And it's going to have this egg crate foam on the side. And it's going to be a nice sound dead in room that you're going to be able to record from. And that's all from, uh, donations from our listeners. And we are super thankful for everybody who's given to the show because it gives you an opportunity to get out from the top part of your house where all the people sleep and you record well into the night and, uh, and it gives people an opportunity to sleep then. so that's awesome and then we really want to thank everybody who donated because uh because you're the reason why
Starting point is 00:08:10 this happened you've never looked at the heavens everything in the heavens is here moving as the heavens move that's how i know it's coming how else can i make the prediction a thousand years ago there was a great conjunction three suns lined up another great conjunction coming up anything could happen our world might burn up the great conjunction is the end of the world oh the beginning. So Cecil, the first story that we want to cover today comes from the Daily Mail.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Because that's exactly where a story like this belongs. Rise of the Blood Moons. Rare alignments of Mars, Earth, and the Sun associated with major religious events begin this week it's the fucking end of the world cecil it's coming this week oh man look out did you notice it yeah no they're it's definitely coming there's gonna be it says on the top one of the many bullet points on the top of the article so many fucking bullet points you gotta fucking change clips it's like a goddamn powerpoint it says next week begins the start of the tetrad under the lunar eclipse and i think that's when the planets turn into four tiny blocks
Starting point is 00:09:30 and they're in different shapes like there's an l and they're like straight along then there's like a cube then there's the t1 that one is always hard to place to that you can't get the music out of your head like when the right line you're like humming it gently to yourself yeah blood moons fuck um you know it's it's the four blood moons followed by six full moons and that's that's when you know um that that's it because some christians believe that the tetrad is a signal that the end of the world is nigh. Now, I want to point out, too, that one of the other bullet points is that this chance alignment has happened three times in the last 500 years. So at least three times in the last 500 years, the end of the world has been nigh and yet not been nigh.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Yeah, well, the world, I don't think he realizes, Tom, that the world's ended two other times. Duh. Yeah. Well, you know, nigh is such a realize this, Tom, the world's ended two other times. Duh. Yeah. Well, you know, nigh is such a relative term, you know. Right. Relatively nigh. You know who they're quoting in this fucking piece of shit article?
Starting point is 00:10:33 It's John Hagee. Oh my fucking God. Did you see this? It says, John Hagee, and I'm quoting from this Daily Mail article, John Hagee, a Christian pastor who has written a book on the tetrad called four blood moons something is about to change i love that it says tuesday night marked the dawn of a hugely significant event for the world and then the reporters ask um hagie is there any you could be more vague uh about that right yeah hugely significant something is going to change well
Starting point is 00:11:02 you know it does say cecil in the book the book of joel in the king james bible prophesied about the blood moons and the end of the world it said the sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood before the great and the terrible day of the lord comes and i'm thinking like well you know guys the moons aren't really turning to blood like that's just a term we're using like when we say once in a blue moon like the moon doesn't turn blue like a blood moon is not actually going to be made out of blood and if the sun turns black like if it's just like well there goes the sun we don't need to worry about what the moon is doing right because we're all dead because the sun is gone how would we know what color the moon was if the sun wasn't there to reflect it like if it wasn't there to
Starting point is 00:11:52 reflect the sun's light exactly uh you know i kind of when i read this this quote from the book of joel i couldn't help but feel like didn't it feel sort of a little sexual to you it's like the sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood. And before the great and terrible day, the Lord comes. I mean, I don't know. Like it just feels, it kind of feels like the moon and the sun
Starting point is 00:12:13 are kind of like maybe Jesus's anal beads. I don't know. That's just how it comes off. And I guess when they come out, that's what we call Passover. I don't know. You know, it's not to be confused, by the way, with the book of Billy Joel joel uh which is just totally different yeah very a lot less blood moons
Starting point is 00:12:31 actually and this is this is great it says at the at the most recent one in 1967 this is uh one of the tetrad of fucking blood moons or whatever cares says that the most recent one in 1967 uh happened during the six day war between the Arabs and the Israelis. And essentially, each one of these blood moons happened with some sort of conflict with Israel. And it's like, holy shit, Israel's going to have another conflict. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Stop the process. How could you say that? You know, it's funny, too. It's like, yeah. And then that one ushered in a six day war. And it's like, wow, historically speaking,hered in a six-day war and it's like wow historically speaking that's an irrelevant war yeah right like a six like the six-day war it's like it's not like the you know hundred years war for example which was longer this is funny too it says on the second
Starting point is 00:13:19 um this is when he's talking about right in the middle of the Jewish holiday of Passover, I guess, when Jesus pulls out the anal beads. It says the second on October 8th occurs during the Feast of the Tabernacle. And the first thing I looked up was how to cook a tabernacle. They're delicious. I was just not sure. I was like, how do you cook a tabernacle? The hard thing is picking one that's right. They just don't have a good stock of them at my local store.
Starting point is 00:13:42 You've got to go to the tabernacle aisle. It's so tough. And it's in the Ethnic Isle. It's right by the matzah or whatever. It's right by the kosher salt. Well, what you've got to get is it's really good when it's spiced with frankincense and myrrh. That's delicious. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Some roast tabernacle with frankincense and myrrh. Fucking delicious. Just something. You shove it right in a lambincense and myrrh. Fucking delicious. Just something. You shove it right in a lamb's ass and put it right in the stove. Delicious. In the name of Jesus, we speak that. So Cecil, this story comes from Al Jazeera dot com. Mexico carers. It's such a weird word.
Starting point is 00:14:44 The way this is written is crazy. I'm going to read this. I know. Yeah. Mexico Google translated gave children to religious sect. Prosecutors say 12 children that were under the temporary care orders were handed over to a group, which then illegally adopted them. Basically, there were a bunch of kids which were just given to a religious sect to hang on to. Like, hey, can I hang on to my kids?
Starting point is 00:15:09 And they're like, sure, we'll hang on to them. And by hang on to them, we mean steal them. Wow. It says here, like many of the recovered children, and this is from that Al Jazeera article, they had been given to members of the evangelical sect called the restoration church through an adoption process of questionable legality and i you gotta wonder how they got them did they like have an orphanage reward card
Starting point is 00:15:34 that they went through and you know you swipe it at the at the at the counter and then you get extra orphans yeah well you you your first six orphans you have to pay for, but the seventh one is free. Oh, I see. It's like when Subway used to have that. Sure, yeah. They're like $5 foot long. Right, exactly. What a weird thing. I mean, they clearly just gave these children to this weird religious sect.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Just gave these children to this weird religious sect. And, you know, I think I think one of the interesting things about this story, you know, because we're just talking about fucking Pastor Hagee and all that garbage and whatever. And, you know, that's all bullshit. But this is something that people actually get hurt from. Right. This is, you know, you can have somebody run in their mouth about whether or not a fucking blood moon is going to happen and they're going to you're going to wind up they're going to make money off you wrote a fucking book off of it right but here here you know and nobody should care i think that's the most important thing is that really nobody should care the only only dumb people are going to buy the book anyway but anyway this this guy like these people wind up with these children you know children that are
Starting point is 00:16:42 being supposed to be under care. And then this weird religious cult comes up. There's like, yeah, we'll take care of them. And they just disappear, you know. And I think there's this level of trust that we have with religious organizations where they get this free pass. It happens in the States all the time. And Mexico is a highly religious country, too. And they just have this opportunity to walk in and, you know, Hey, we're religious.
Starting point is 00:17:07 So let us have these children. And somehow it's just like, no problem. Fucking what do you want? Paper or plastic? Right. You know, I,
Starting point is 00:17:13 it, it bothers me very much that religious organizations get this kind of benefit of the doubt that they just, that they just have like this de facto, like we'll care for the children sort of like, Oh, well it's a church that's going to this de facto, like, we'll care for the children, sort of like, oh, well, it's a church that's going to care for the... Imagine setting up a private corporation that was just going to be like, yeah, well, it's fucking Umbrella Corp, give us your babies.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Nobody would do that. Nobody would do that, Cecil. But somehow it's like, oh, it's fucking Jesus Corp, give us your babies. And that works. Somehow that's different. somehow it's like oh it's fucking Jesus Corp give us your babies and that works like somehow that's different and it's not different like there's nothing different about it there's no oversight there's lax there's lax oversight if any the regulations aren't in place people aren't like kids just fucking go missing man like hey where'd that kid go oh you know like they found these kids they're fucking adults now that's how long it took for this shit to get uncovered like it's not like
Starting point is 00:18:12 they got away with it for a few hours yeah no these kids became i mean the kids come back and they're they're you know they're grown-ups you know they're talking about they found the first missing children in 2009 so this has been going on for a while. But, you know, I mean, and, you know, that tells you something when they're classifying the children as missing. There's some sort of problem. Right. Because it's not like, you know, when the kids are missing, somebody's fucking looking for them. Right. It's not like these are orphan kids that like nobody is looking for. These are kids that people are fucking clearly looking for. Like, so there's there's got to be something weird going on here the shelter was raided by police in 2008 and dozens of children
Starting point is 00:18:53 were removed from it yet later in the same article there's a quote that says today the staffing and the procedures for the care of children in the government's temporary shelters continue to create conditions that make another casitas del sewer case possible like are you fucking kidding me like this is an easy thing to reform this is this is not a difficult thing to reform like just don't give kids to unregulated church organizations. Who's that guy on the other side of the glory hole? It's Jesus. This story comes from the Huffington post.com Jesus people documentary sheds light on religious communities,
Starting point is 00:19:38 darker stories, you know, Cecil, this would be just another, um, you know, like creepy insulated cult abuses children and women story. If it wasn't for the fucking weird Jesus people, they're calling themselves the Jesus people.
Starting point is 00:19:56 They were reminded me immediately of the fucking weird Jews for Jesus that I met once when I was selling shit and like people would come in with like, we're the Jews for Jesus. We're like, that's very confusing to me initially. They're a communal group, right? Created in the, I guess in the 70s where they essentially didn't like any of the free love stuff or any of that stuff that was going on, the drug culture, alternative stuff. And they just basically created this Bible-based communal thing. the drug culture, alternative stuff. And they just basically created this Bible based communal thing. And so to commune, right, you go, you live there, you essentially just put all your money in this big communal pot. And then you live with the Jesus people, which, you know, I mean, you know, teach their own. That's fine. If people want to live like that, that's cool. The problem,
Starting point is 00:20:41 of course, comes and I'm going to read this part. This is, again, from this Huffington Post article. This is because some children are abused. It says, both lawsuits say the alleged abuse stemmed from part of the Jesus People practice of letting families with minor children share living quarters with non-related adults. Really? We're going to, I mean, you think that's a good idea?
Starting point is 00:21:08 You know, I feel like this is a way this is the same thing that the the catholic church went through right there's sort of a haven for pedophiles you know there's a way in which like there's an avenue in which they have a free reign to diddle a child and so the fucking pedophile bat signal goes off and then you get filled up with you know a bunch of pedophiles and they come in and they start diddling kids and then you have a bunch of fucking lawsuits because you guys did you guys thought oh well we're all jesus so we're all cool and nobody's gonna hurt anybody else well too fucking bad somebody got hurt and it's not a fucking you know it's not an adult who got. It's an innocent kid who probably didn't choose to be in that commune in the first place. You put your kid in the harm's way in danger.
Starting point is 00:21:51 And these people just fucking, they raped your child. I mean, this is, that's, that's clearly where, you know, we're talking before about how religion gets a free reign when it comes to children. You know, this is another example of how people turn the other way because you happen to be religious they think oh well you must be a good person well fucking guess what that doesn't fucking you know that's not the seal of approval you know don't you think like when the when this comes up the first time like when the when the pedophile like finds out like wait a minute you'll let me do what i can just fucking what you'll let me do what in the room it's like it's like the fucking fat kid from charlie and the chocolate factory like getting turned loose into that room made out of candy it's like ah it's all mine it's all mine
Starting point is 00:22:36 like running around like fucking slobbering on everything it it really is unsettling and i and i do think see so like it does it you know organizations like this may as well put a call to action you know out to to weird creepy groups full of fucking weird creeps to be like hey we welcome you and isn't it kind of funny too that like they're they organize this this jesus commune as a pushback against free love, which is a bunch of consenting adults having sex with each other. And the problem that they create is this. Like the free love.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Nobody's getting hurt from that. Like free love. Yeah, I totally had sex with that person. Now, you know, it really is no repercussions at all, actually. So we're going to take a short break, give you some information on how to contact and how to donate, and we'll be back right after this. If you would like to contact the show, visit the website DissidencePod.com for the links to the Facebook, Twitter, Google Plus, and email accounts. You can also call and leave a message at 740-74-DOUBT. That's 740-7 4 3 6 8 2 8.
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Starting point is 00:24:18 So this story comes from Right Wing Watch. Steve Deese claims end of anti-gay sodomy laws led to fascism uh fascism not actually included it turns out cecil because we don't live in a fascist state so it led to fascism but there's not actually fascism which i would think would be something of a downer for his argument one of the things he says and this is quoting directly this fucking douchebag steve deuce or whatever his name is says after being desensitized to homosexuality by popular culture for the past two decades the american people were promised by the left that allowing the sexual revolution to reach its climax. Hey, interesting word choice there. Wouldn't change anything. Now that our brave new world of anything goes has arrived.
Starting point is 00:25:13 The American people are beginning to realize this actually threatens to change everything. And I got to stop here for a second and think, OK, so I'm a pretty socially liberal guy. I don't really care about, you know, we were talking, we were on a show earlier where we were talking about polygamy. I don't really care that people are polygamy or polyamorous or gay or transgender or any of the things that, you know, these people seem to have a problem with, right? They all seem to have a problem with that sort of thing. I don't care that people have premarital sex. I don't care about any of that stuff. The most sexually extravagant thing I do is fuck my wife. Like, that's all I do, right? So how exactly did this, you know, this, oh my God, anything goes culture, what has it done for me, right? What has it,
Starting point is 00:26:00 how has it changed me in any way? It hasn't changed me at all. I'm still doing all the same things that this jag off is doing. Right. This guy, you know what he's professing is what you should do is get married and have sex. Well, that's what I'm doing. So why is this any? And I'm clearly still for all the things that he's against. But it hasn't changed my viewpoint at all but don't you think you're missing the point a little bit cecil like as soon as the gays can can get married then that means that not only can you have sex with your wife if you want to but then you can you know have sex with with animals right and you can have sex i guess sure statues you can do you can literally do anything and and you should, and nothing will hold you back from it. And that's the thing that he said. I'm having sex with a lobster right now. I'm having sex with a lobster as we speak. Just constantly fucking lobsters. Like, I'll fuck any crustacean that moves.
Starting point is 00:26:55 It doesn't matter, motherfucker. Gives great claw. It's so funny because it's like the people who are like, yeah, you fucking shouldn't do this thing. And it's like, well, then you don't do that thing. And then don't worry about what I do. It makes no difference to the rest of the world what other people do behind closed doors. It really makes no difference. Unless you're a fucking nosy, sexual, busy body.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Like, that's it. Or unless you're waiting for some kind of social permission. it like unless or unless you're waiting for some kind of social permission i'm not waiting for social permission to have you know sex with another dude so because i'm not waiting for social permission my sexual life doesn't change at all and that's the reality for fucking everybody because nobody is sitting around like waiting like oh oh, man, I just the only reason I'm not doing fucking all of these crazy things is because I don't have social permission to do them. And the minute I have social permission, I'm going to start like fucking like just having sex with a fucking little red wagon. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to fuck a little red wagon right in the axles.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Like no one's doing that. A lot of these people seem to think that human beings are animals in a lot of ways. They're just animals. They're just waiting to be unleashed, right? But yet they don't think that evolution is a thing. It just seems like such cognitive dissonance that all these people seem to have all these conflicting ideas in their head about what's right, what's moral. And then this guy, he's talking about fucking, he says those God-given rights aren't being threatened by jihadists or redcoats. Redcoats?
Starting point is 00:28:29 I know. What? What the? What fucking year do you think it is? Wake this motherfucker up. It's like, what is that guy who slept all those years? The fucking, what's the name? It starts with an R.
Starting point is 00:28:41 What the fuck is that? Oh, Rumpelstiltskin. No, it's not Rumpel. Is it Rumpel is that? Oh, Rumpelstiltskin. No, it's not Rumpel. Is it Rumpelstiltskin? Rumpelstiltskin's different. Rumpelstiltskin is the one that you say his name three times or some shit. It's a different one. It's like the dude who slept for 100 years.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Hey, it actually is the first thing as i started typing rip van winkle fucking rip van winkle still skin i thought the same thing i'm like is it rumple still skin no that's a different dude um that's a different made-up dude no everybody ripped van winkle it's like wake this guy up. Fucking redcoats? What century are you in, you dumb fuck? Seriously, redcoats? And then, you know, that fucking tired old fucking argument about fascism, right? It's like the boogeyman. It's constantly, we constantly got to scare each other about, oh my God, it's fascism.
Starting point is 00:29:39 It's anti-gay sodomy laws lead to fascism. Really? Fascism? That's where we're going with this? Do you even know what fascism is? No, they clearly do not know what fascism is. And that's the best part. There's no understanding of fascism.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And the argument here is like, one of the things that I think is interesting, it says, those who pleaded for tolerance and demanded equality only intended to do so until they acquired supremacy then when they had the advantage and this is the part that i think is telling they would make sure that their opponents understood it's not any fun once the rabbit has the gun and what's he saying there that previously he had the gun and they were the rabbits i mean if he's gonna make if he's gonna
Starting point is 00:30:25 make an analogy that presents himself now as the unfortunate victim as the prey in this scenario then and and he's saying that like oh now the tables have turned and we're the ones who are getting uh you know vilified doesn't that acknowledge implicitly that you previously were vilifying the others like right isn't that isn't that like tacitly acknowledged in the in the wording of that fucking sentence and clearly he's got no problem with it yeah but rabbits don't know how to use guns that is true that's no i think that they can plug their finger in the hole though that's true that's very true and it blows up that's only if they're wascalite. What the actual
Starting point is 00:31:11 fuck? What the actual fuck? What the fuck? What the actual fucking fuck fuck? What the actual? The actual flying fuck? What the actual fuck? What the actual fuck? Is this consular failure bullshit? What the what? What? What? What the actual fuck? What the actual fuck is this conservative media bullshit? What the what? What? What? What the actual fuck, conservative media?
Starting point is 00:31:32 Conversion therapy, also known as reparative therapy, is treatment that converts someone's sexual attraction from homosexuality to heterosexuality. This therapy has been successful in many cases and has been praised by leading experts such as Anna Freud, daughter of Sigmund Freud. Ms. Freud observed that, nowadays we can cure many more homosexuals than was thought possible in the beginning. Homosexuality is highly correlated to someone's activities and culture. For example, training in baseball and figure skating begin when a boy is only about six years old. After years of engaging in those activities, often for hours each day, upon reaching adulthood, fewer than one in 1,000 baseball players are homosexual, while estimates are that 33% of
Starting point is 00:32:18 male figure skaters are, a 300-fold difference after doing different activities. In some cases, the therapy addresses hatred a male patient had for his father while growing up. By repairing that relationship, the therapist can be successful in enabling the patient to become heterosexual. Paul endorses the equivalent of Christian-based conversion therapy in 1 Corinthians 6.11. Predictably, advocates of the homosexual agenda oppose and even seek to prohibit conversion therapy, analogous to how some countries prohibit conversion to Christianity.
Starting point is 00:32:54 But conversion therapy remains fully legal and effective in nearly all of the United States, with the exception of recent laws concerning minors which passed in liberal California and New Jersey. Peter LaBarbera is the president of Americans for Truth, which is an organization which counters the homosexual agenda. LaBarbera stated the following regarding Christian ex-homosexuals, who reported being transformed by the power of God.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Another factor from my experience as a close observer of the ex-gay phenomenon is that many former homosexuals do not linger in reparative therapy programs or participate in them at all. They attribute their dramatic and relatively rapid transformation to the power of God and likely would not show up in a study of this kind. In fact, these unstudied overcomers would appear to be the most successful ex-homosexuals because they've moved on with their lives as reborn Christians move on after overcoming any besetting sin. Peter LaBarbera's statement above concerning overcoming
Starting point is 00:34:00 homosexuality certainly has some evidence supporting it. In addition, in 1980, a study was published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, and 11 men participated in the study. The aforementioned study stated that 11 homosexual men became heterosexuals without explicit treatment and or long-term psychotherapy through their participation in a Pentecostal church. The opposition to conversion therapy is sometimes ideologically based, and it directs attention away from the harm that gay affirmative therapy can cause. So this one also comes from rightwingwatch.org.
Starting point is 00:34:38 What is with the gay supremacy? Hold on now. What the fuck is up with gay supremacy? I don't know. The gay supremacists are really fucking taking over when did that become a thing i don't know it's it's not a thing it's clearly a thing i would love to see a gay supremacist march like can you imagine that's the thing that bothers me is they they they they misunderstand that giving someone rights is is now suddenly giving them power over other people. Like it doesn't make it like white supremacy clearly wants to subjugate a whole group of people. Gays don't want to do that. They just want to have equal rights. I just don't understand how that that even equates to their supremacy argument.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Yeah. You know, and that's that's a point totally worth exploring, because this story is Tea Party activist. Gay supremacy is becoming a monster that carries greater evils than white supremacy ever did. Holy mother fuck. Mary Baker, leader of Conservative Moms for America and a speaker for the Tea Party Express. For those who can't wait for the tea party like for those who don't want to take the tea party local um right no yeah you gotta make sure because it only makes like three stops and they're all at crazy you know um i to even write such a thing she argues that gay rights activists are motivated by hate
Starting point is 00:36:06 and bent on their opponents utter annihilation um yes the opponents for gay rights activists you know and i would say that like i will tell you right now i am bent on the utter annihilation of the opponents for gay rights i think we should should annihilate them. Cecil, we should take anybody with a differing opinion and annihilate them. Like put them in the large Hadron Collider. Whatever it takes. Fucking wipe them into nothing. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:36:35 They should just be. And I don't even, the thing is I don't even know what the Hadron Collider does. I just think it's sciences. You know, I'm just like, you stick somebody in there and it's sciences them to death. It's just like, I don't know and it sciences them to death it's just
Starting point is 00:36:45 like i don't know what it does it's just fucking whatever happens happens and fucking it's like it's like schrodinger's fucking collider i don't even know you just put them in there it's like miles long and you shut the door and they're just like hey, turn this thing on. This is horrible. I'm hungry and thirsty. It's dark in here. The thing is, like, it would take you, like, could you imagine being set loose on the controls of the H1 Collider? They'd be like, turn it on. Like, fucking turn it on. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:37:22 It's got all the fucking doodads and bobbles and fucking knobs and shit i would love it if they built that thing and it just has one big button just big red fucking enormous button they're like they wire the whole thing and it's everything or everything should be like evil scientist toggles on the wall oh yeah absolutely you know when you hit it it should be fucking like crash music like yeah or or as soon as you hit it you just hear and for no reason every time you turn it on the lights dim in the room like they should just they're just i don't even care if it's just a fucking intern standing at a dimmer switch going –
Starting point is 00:38:05 Right, right. Well, and all the interns have to wear hunchbacks too. You and I would be fucking awesome scientists. We would be the best scientists ever. Oh my god. We would science the fuck out of the science. We missed our calling to science some stuff. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Oh, I'm sorry. We totally got off this gay supremacy thing. So so one of the things that I think is really telling is she talked and I and Tom, can you just read? And I know it's going to be real hard because you've got to get your fucking hillbilly to English dictionary out here. But is there any way that you could read that top quote where it starts when white supremacy tried to make a mark in american history was viciously attacked quickly put down by the people of our nation quickly what hold on now we're gonna stop there because we're gonna say quickly was what over a hundred years what are you talking about yeah what white supremacy was a thing for hundreds of years, several hundred years. There was slavery in this country. We had segregation until the 50s, was it? Holy mother fuck, that's a real thing someone said out loud.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Are you kidding? Like sometimes it's baffling. Wow. But gay supremacy is becoming a monster that carries greater evils than white supremacy ever did said no black person ever yeah right white supremacy was focused on how a group of people felt about another group of people they created various barriers for those they hated and their views about their superiority to others provided. I love the past tense provided the framework for the citizens of this nation to search their hearts and understand that God has created every person in his image.
Starting point is 00:39:55 However, gay supremacist hate reaches much farther than a specific group of people. There's there. They're wrong there, I can't, there is no common ground that can be reached. There is no searching of the heart for consideration of God's principles. Their hate is generated only by self-centeredness and hate for anyone who disagrees with them.
Starting point is 00:40:23 All right, so I want to try to unpack a little bit of this because they're talking about how white supremacy essentially focused people to sort of look to God for their direction and find the right way is what they're sort of saying. And there's no way that if you look at gay supremacy, there's no way that that can lead you down the right path that God wants. And so we found a thing called evil bible.com where they talk about slavery. And if you, you know, if you, if you extend out white
Starting point is 00:40:56 supremacy to its logical conclusion, I think, I don't think anybody would argue that slavery is not the logical conclusion to white supremacy. So we should actually read one of these or one or two of these passages from the Bible that talk about what it means, essentially, the logical extension of white supremacy. Well, why don't we start with Leviticus, Cecil? Sure. However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this. Tell me that's not, I mean, perfectly in line with what white supremacy is.
Starting point is 00:41:57 How is it not? It's even in line with what she specifically says. She specifically says white supremacy was focused on how a group of people felt about another group of people. Such as not the people of Israel. Right. Right. Exactly. Specifically in Leviticus.
Starting point is 00:42:16 How the fuck are you going to use the Bible to search your heart to get rid of slavery when slavery is expressly condoned in this book? Listen to this one, Tom. This one is from Exodus. When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If however, the slave survives for a day or two,
Starting point is 00:42:39 he is not punished since the slave is his own property. That's your fucking in Aaronrant word of God right there. That's the fucking inerrant word of God. That's what you know, that's what we're that's what the nation, Tom, is turning away from. It's just turning away from all that good old, you know, old fashioned morals that we're just losing because we're letting these gays run everything. Yeah. Those lousy gays and they're not having slaves ever. That's so silly. You know, the gays would really be better off if they had slaves.
Starting point is 00:43:17 At least they'd be Bible-thumping gays. Let's not discount that there may be a few BSDM gays out there who do have slaves. We're going to get mail from them, right? Like I have, I have a slave and they're going to threaten to put a ball gag on. Oh, be nice. Oh,
Starting point is 00:43:37 my son doesn't stand a chance. The whole world's gone gay. Oh my God. What's happening now? We work hard. We play hard. So this story comes from a political. What is that political ticker? The CNN blog.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Mike Huckabee, not homophobic, but on the right side of the Bible. Well, Cecil, that fucking clears it up. He's not homophobic. He's just on the look. Look, he doesn't have anything against gays. He's not a hater, Cecil. He says so himself. He's not a hater.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Why don't we let his words speak for him? Here's Mike. We're going to split him up into two pieces. But this, again, comes from CNN. If only we could split him into two pieces. I know. Kidding, right? Fucking Solomon,omon his ass so here we go we're gonna we're gonna play the first part of of mike's little diatribe i'm not against anybody i'm really not i'm not a hater i'm not homophobic i i honestly don't care what people do personally in their individual lives
Starting point is 00:44:44 but i tell you the reason when people say well why don't you just people do personally in their individual lives, but I tell you, the reason when people say, well, why don't you just kind of get on the right side of history? I said, you've got to understand, this for me is not about the right side or the wrong side of history. This is the right side of the Bible, and unless God rewrites it, edits it, sends it down with his signature on it, it's not my book to change. Folks, that's why I stand where I stand.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Clear as a bell. You know, it occurs to me that maybe you're reading the wrong fucking book to change. Folks, that's why I stand where I stand. Clear as a bell. You know, it occurs to me that maybe you're reading the wrong fucking book, bro. I mean, I don't know. I'm not a fucking rocket scientist. But, you know, if your book is full of fucking hate and basically preaches some sort of action against homosexuals because you feel icky around them then maybe you should look up another book hey whoa whoa whoa it's not my fault my god is a bloodthirsty cretin i mean that's not look hey whoa it doesn't make me a hater it just makes my god a hater right like that's i mean that's kind of like saying whoa whoa whoa whoa hang on a minute now i don't hate people but my god that motherfucking guy
Starting point is 00:45:48 really hates him i'll tell you that guy can bring the hate man exactly what a dick that god is but me no i'm cool i'm cool there's more logic in like playing a game a slug bug than what he just said yeah i i would hate to have to defend why i'm why i'm knowingly not on the right side of history i know you know what i mean like how do you knowingly defend that like look hey i know history is going to judge me harshly but i had to kill six million jews right look they're gonna look on this in the future they're gonna be a little critical just a little critical well you know i i've got a sign i i actually i feel bad for him though because i i too have a an original signed copy of the bible
Starting point is 00:46:39 signed by god right you know edited by god yeah like every single thing it's like edited special thanks to god you know you get the introduction by god you can tell it's a first edition because the copyright is year zero yeah so that's how you know it's not fucking around here's the second piece of Huckabee yammering, so it's a little longer. Look, I'm not trying to be some wacko way out there. Too late, bro. I'm talking about the basic fundamental rights we have as an American citizen. the NSA and the TSA, I want you to think about the fact that in New Mexico, you've got a photographer who refused to take photos of a same-sex wedding. And this week, the extreme court decided it would not hear that case, which basically says that if you are a Christian believer,
Starting point is 00:47:40 and you just do not feel that it is in your artistic interest or within your artistic capacity to do photos of a same-sex wedding, then the government will force you to do it. Okay? Let me ask this government a question. If I go to a Muslim artist and ask the Muslim artist to paint me a picture of Mohammed, will the government stand behind me and force that artist to paint me a picture of Mohammed? Yes or no in this country? The answer is no. So I'm asking this.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Why is it that Christians stand back and take it in the teeth time and time and time again? But we cannot change this country if we don't rise up and at least vote and vote with an informed mind and a committed spirit. And if we're not willing to stand alone. stand alone. I, you know, here's, here's what I got to ask him though. Uh, let's just say that that painting somehow gave you rights to own property. Then it would be really important, wouldn't it? Then it would be something that you'd need to have in order to say own property. So then maybe we could make some arguments about it, but instead it's just like, oh, well, maybe I would force somebody to do something that they didn't want to do okay great but there's nothing so important as equal rights hanging over it well look the analogy is so grossly imperfect right like in one of them somebody is being
Starting point is 00:49:17 denied a good or a service that the other person typically provides right right so this other person typically provides this good or service in exchange for money as part of their job and is not allowed to discriminate who they provide that service to versus the second example where somebody never does this thing ever and no party has any specific interest in forcing this person to do it like nobody is being like nobody's being harmed in the second example by the refusal there's no harm to party that's like that's like saying well you know what if there was an impressionist painter and I wanted him to paint something realistic? Would the government force him to do it? Well, no.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Dummy. Because it's not his fucking style of art, stupid. Like fucking this is the this is the easiest analogy to poke holes in. And, you know, I want to go back to the fact that it's you know, there's a lot that hangs on being married. You know, there's a lot of rights you get that you just don't have as a single person. You know, I get rights to my wife's property. I get rights to, you know, see her when she's sick. I get end of life rights for, you know, whether or not we're going to pull the plug. I get to decide how her, you know, her, you know, it's all really horrible shit. It turns out it's really sort of focused on death in a lot of ways, you know, or if she becomes, you know, incapacitated in some way.
Starting point is 00:50:47 But I mean, it's you know, that's when you really need the fucking rights. It's not what fucking everything's fucking goddamn puppy dogs and rainbows that you need the rights. It's when fucking shit turns pear shaped. That's when you need the goddamn rights. So, you know, the idea that we're denying them rights and then to make some sort of light about it and be like, oh, well, I can't make them paint Mohammed. And then all the fucking dumb yokels in the audience like you can't make a painting. You know, it's it's this painting themselves as victims. That is the most pathetic response. Like it's the least powerful response to a situation right i mean what other situation
Starting point is 00:51:30 cecil can you imagine where you say well i think i should definitely respond to this by painting myself as a fucking hapless victim really wow that's a great fucking plan you know how the fuck are you supposed to elicit my respect for your viewpoint when your entire uh you know point is predicated on hey i want to be mean and i want to be small-minded and i want to be petty and i want to deny people the ability to see loved ones in the hospital but the government won't let me. And doesn't that make you sad that I can't be mean to people for Jesus? You know, it's funny. You have a great point that it's pathetic. But one of the things that I think politicians, and it's not just one side, but i think politicians in this country have gotten
Starting point is 00:52:25 very very very good at is understanding that human beings really do like the underdog right um and they put them they pit themselves as the underdog in every single conflict there can't be an underdog on both sides like it's like it's impossible for there to be an underdog on both sides but they they do it anyway because they know their side is going to eat that shit up. And, uh, and I think, you know, one of the things that we should start doing is, you know, paying attention to when our side does it too, you know, painting themselves as the underdog, there's going to be a time in this country where gay rights are going to be the norm and they're not going to be the underdog anymore. That's true.
Starting point is 00:53:10 And, you know, I think that I think that at that point, if they still start playing that that role, then, you know, somebody's got to say, hey, you're not the underdog. These are the right. But, you know, I don't think that the underdog, you know, that that sort of thing doesn't matter when it comes to logic. It only comes to fruition. It only comes to play when you're dealing with emotions and i think that you know you can't watch fucking mike huckabee and be ready to fucking ride the logic train you know what i mean like like you clearly you have a ticket that will not be punched today that's basically what's gonna happen you know you get a free ride on the fucking cuckoo train and you get a free ride on the emotion train right i mean the you get a free ride on the emotion train. Right. I mean, the guy's clearly a good speaker. Right. And when I when you first hear him talk and the way he talks, he's he's there to sway people. He's not there to sway him with, you know, good arguments. He's there to sway him with rhetoric. And he's good at it. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:58 So, you know, you've got it. You just got to be you know, it's real easy to sit back and point out all the dumb argument that he has but if you were to sit down with somebody who's in his audience you're never going to convince him that that analogy is a bad one you want answers i think i'm entitled you want answers i want the truth you can't handle the truth so see so this story is just fucking weird it's from b Boston.com. Alleged way mouth arsonist tells police he set fire for God. This fucking wackadoo burned down an adult store, like an adult bookstore type of place. And he told the police that he did it, Cecil, because God hates porn. Oh, I thought he was trying to roast a tabernacle. I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:54:42 If God hates porn so much, why is my computer not on fire right why isn't the entire internet not on fire right like for all the stuff god hates um god doesn't really do much about it and he sure makes it awfully easy for me to get it right well and the other thing too is like okay well if god really wanted you to be burning things down wouldn't he have made it so you didn't get caught stupid i know yeah way to go continue on on your yeah your porn burning spree or whatever you're doing it's like god is like the worst person to have on your side. Oh, yeah. Ever. Like he's your buddy. Like God is your buddy.
Starting point is 00:55:26 That's like, hey, we should go TP that house. And as soon as he sees the flashing lights, he runs faster than you. He's your total dickhead friend who like deep pants is somebody in front of you and then hides behind you. Exactly. Like let's you take one to the chin. Right. Exactly. Clearly there he's he's in a group of people, you know, obviously in a group of people that demonize sexuality. And it's it's one of those things that I just don't understand because these people still have children. You know, I mean, these people are still having children, but they just like like they they don't like all sex. It's only like missionary sex with the lights out and both
Starting point is 00:56:06 of you thinking about jesus and a lamb or something you know like that's the only way that you can actually have sex well yeah i mean the thing is like it's it's that whole like well sex is just for procreation well then you're a really boring person no kidding you are missing out that's like saying like food is fuel. Food is just fuel. Wow. Way to just like deny one of your basic senses. That's awesome. Like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:56:34 Why don't we just stop listening to music and throw away all of our art? Why don't we just become crazy fucking fundamentalist Muslims then? Sure. And we should all wear burlap. Right. You know what I mean? Exactly. So we never feel anything nice on our skin. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:44 It doesn't matter. We don't care how our clothes feel. All we need to do is protect ourselves from the elements, and burlap does a fine job. I'm itchy just thinking about wearing burlap. Made from 100% real burlap. Yes, burlap. It sucks. Get yours today.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Yeah, no, I totally agree. It's there's there's a there's just an unfunness to their life that just seems so sad. It's that anti-sensualist movement. And I'm not saying that, you know, necessarily that they're missing out because they're not partaking in pornography. I mean, you know, clearly don't partake in what you don't want to partake in. That's fine. But going out of your way to destroy pornography, you know, destroy a business, clearly a business
Starting point is 00:57:30 because you felt like they needed to have some sort of retribution because you couldn't fucking control your own fucking wackadoo. You know what I mean? Like, this guy clearly couldn't keep his hands off his cock. And you're just like, okay, well, dude, you know, just fucking elicit a little more self-control. Don't down the store get your hand out of your pants you know
Starting point is 00:57:48 see so that's one way to look at it the other way to look at it is like maybe we should just burn down everything a group disagrees with so liquor stores should be burnt down for sure because like the muslims don't like that you know and any place that sells pork just fucking light it on fire who gives a shit right and any place that sells clothes of mixed fabrics like just fucking burn that down while we're at it and burn down all your televisions because there's graven images galore so we should definitely burn down like anything with a photo or a statue so like we can all just let's just live in cave you know what fuck i think we're running let's just live in cave. You don't fuck. I think we're running. Let's just live in caves and fucking gnaw on bones.
Starting point is 00:58:26 We're almost going to have to because we're clearly running out of things at this point. We've burned it all. Burn it all. We've burned all of the things. All right. So we have two podcasts we've got to mention. The first is a podcast. We have a link to it. this podcast is called being humanist i
Starting point is 00:58:48 haven't had an opportunity to listen to any podcast recently but i'm hopefully going to get a chance to listen to being humanist this week i'm going to put a link to it on this week's show keith sent us a message hoping we could plug his podcast keith uh keith also asked for a little bit of feedback hopefully i'll be able to listen to it this week, Keith, and give you some feedback. Tom, of course, will not. No, no, I'm not. I don't listen to podcasts. I think they're fucking awful.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Fucking podcasts are terrible. Who would fucking listen to one of those things? The other podcast that we got a message from Corey, and Corey has a podcast, and you can find it at brainstormblog.net. I am going to put a link to Corey's podcast. Corey, again, I haven't had an opportunity to listen to these, but you can find them both on this episode, episode 146 on Cognitive Dissonance, dissonancepod.com. Go ahead and give them a listen.
Starting point is 00:59:38 Like I say, I'm going to be listening to them myself this week. We've got an interesting, this is a this is an email from greg again tom greg had given us a bunch of suggestions about uh how to change the podcast essentially turn our podcast into skeptics guide to the universe we didn't take any of those because we're not that smart but uh but greg has more he says uh anyway i do have one more suggestion in the introduction you always end with and there is no welcome mat every time i hear this you always end with, and there is no welcome mat. Every time I hear this, I expect you to say, and there is no warning sign, despite the introduction effectively being a warning sign.
Starting point is 01:00:14 I even had to listen to the intro again as I wrote this to make sure I got it the right way around. This generates genuine cognitive dissonance for me, on the one hand i love the podcast but on the other i've been listening since your first incredulous appearance and the fact that i can't get it right by now makes me feel like a fucking idiot as i know i'm not a fucking idiot i have to assume it is something wrong with the show hence the dissonance if you could drop this simple sentence i'm sure i and all of your other listeners who are incapable of remembering one simple line without getting confused would be much happier. I still get confused about the line.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Actually, he has to read. A long time ago, I thought to myself, like as I was reading it, when I say we bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence, I thought irrelevance would have also been a funny line in there. And now every time I think it in my head, I think, and irrelevance. And I have to sort of give myself pause not to fuck it up. I've done this 146 times. Greg, keep sending these because these are great. These I mean, you clearly you understand the nature of the show, I think, better than we do. So clearly you should keep sending these and these are awesome.
Starting point is 01:01:36 We got a message from from Bart and Bart sent in the image that we posted for last episode. He actually had a caption. So, Tom, do you want to read the caption? He did for his for his. It was now the image. You can find it on last episode, episode 145. And on the episode, we talked about, I guess it's David, who's hugging a lamb after he had killed a bear,
Starting point is 01:02:03 like punched it and broke his skull open. And the bear's got his little tongue hanging out behind him. And David's looking a little like he's, he's really sort of sweet talking this lamb. And then he gave it this caption. My life changed forever. We met in the men's room of the Iowa 80. Your fleece is so soft,
Starting point is 01:02:21 just like your tongue. Unlike, you know, who's back there. You know what happens to those with rough tongues, don't you? Hush now. I love that the tongue is sticking out. And it's tucked in the barrel. That's great.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Thank you, Bart. That was awesome. It was great. We got a message from Jason again. And Jason had sent us a bunch of music and said, hey, if you want to use it, you can. We hadn't, because a lot of our music is sort of canned. We hadn't had a chance to use it. We put it on a file for future use.
Starting point is 01:02:52 But one of the things I said is if he ever found a place to put his music, we would happily link to it. So he has all 14 of his songs available right now on Bandcamp for a buck. 14 of his songs available right now on band camp for a buck. So if you're interested in going, uh, checking out, uh, Jason's music, we're going to put a link on this episode,
Starting point is 01:03:10 episode one 46. Uh, hope you'll, hopefully you'll go check it out and, and give his stuff a listen. That was a really cool thing to do. Thank you, Jason.
Starting point is 01:03:18 We got an interesting email from Matt, Tom. We did. Um, Matt says, uh, here in Australia, when we have our federal election on a Saturday,
Starting point is 01:03:27 the new government takes office Monday. No lame ducks. Just bam. Fuck off. Next government. Do you think a system like that could work in the U S I think that supposes the idea that a system could work in the U S right? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:03:41 I think it presupposes the system. Yeah. I was, what I said to Tom was in order to get that changed, the amount of political capital you would need, you could get something, I think, more worthwhile for the American people changed. And I don't think anybody would waste it on getting the you know, whether or not you're a lame duck in office. And one thing I do want to point out too, Tom and I were discussing this earlier. One thing I do want to point out is that while GW was a lame duck,
Starting point is 01:04:09 he gave away, gosh, how much was it, Tom? $100 billion to- It was a gargantuan sum of money. Yeah, it was a lot of money. He gave- Hundreds of billions of dollars. Hundreds of billions of dollars, actually. I thought it was close to it.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Wasn't it like three quarters of a trillion dollars? I thought it was 700 billion was the number for TARP, I think. Yeah, so it was close to three quarters of a trillion dollars he gave to banks. In TARP funds. I mean, Obama at that point, I think, was elected. He was consulting with him, but clearly Bush was making the calls. And so lame ducks can get some things done. But I think that's an interesting thing. I mean, I think I think that many other countries have figured out the government system
Starting point is 01:04:51 way better than we have. And Tom, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago. We're talking about how laws, how weird laws are. We have such strange laws in this country that pertain to different things and how penalties sort of range in sort of really weird ways. And some things can be felonies that don't feel like they're felonies and other things are misdemeanors. And you're like, well, that's clearly not a misdemeanor. Like I really wanted to hurt somebody or something.
Starting point is 01:05:15 And so it feels like each law got made individually and they didn't look at sort of a scale in which they chose punishment. At least that's what it feels like for certain laws, especially. And especially when a politician gets a hard-on about a certain type of crime that they want to put down, they almost always up the limits for things and they sort of go after that group,
Starting point is 01:05:38 that subsect of criminals, and that gets hugely distorted in the term, the amount of time that those people have to serve, et cetera. And it just feels like a really weird system. And I think other countries have such better systems. I mean, there's, you know, I think if you were to start all over from scratch, you could probably make a really fucking awesome system.
Starting point is 01:05:59 But, you know, starting all over from scratch just isn't an option. No, it's not. You know, I'll be honest, Matthew, like the first thing that occurs to me here is like you say here in Australia when we have our federal election on a Saturday, and I think we have ours on Tuesdays. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Oh, yeah. We can't even get that piece done, you know, and we never will revise that because there's a big chunk of the folks making decisions who don't want voter turnout and voter turnout would be greatly improved by having elections on a weekend instead we have them on a fucking tuesday we can't even fix that yeah i i'm i'm right there with you i think that that's just i mean it's just absurd that we don't have uh we don't have the day off for taking i mean just you know it's just absurd that we don't have we don't have the day off for taking. I mean, just, you know, it's an important thing.
Starting point is 01:06:50 But clearly, Australia, though, don't they have it? I had thought that they had a law in place that requires them to to vote like there's an actual requirement. You get penalized if you don't vote. Yeah, I don't you know, I don't vote yeah i don't you know i don't know if i i don't know how i feel about that about being required to vote i think you should vote but about being required to vote i don't know about that but i think the government should make it as fucking easy as possible to vote should encourage people to engage the system um i'm a carrots rather than sticks guy on that subject.
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Starting point is 01:09:13 We have five charities that we've chosen. You can go ahead and if you're a patron, you can vote. All you have to do is look on activity under Patreon on Patreon.com. There will be a post that's called Charity Vote. April's patron goes to the charity of your choice. That's the name of the post. And you can click on it, and it's a survey that I created. And if you're a patron, you can actually activate it. And you can vote on what charity gets the money. And I think that it will be great to give some of this money back to a charity that
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Starting point is 01:10:32 Was it white gay homo? White homo. I think that's what it was. White homo demons. So if there were any black heterosexuals, what do you think? And so he answered the question. So if you stick around after the skeptics creed, you'll get a chance on this episode's show notes, episode 146. We also appeared just before we recorded the show. We just appeared on Shit Talking Skeptics hosted by Ross from Skeptically Challenged. We were on there with Jake. Jake is the only one on video, but it is
Starting point is 01:11:18 available on YouTube. We're going to link to that episode as well on this episode, episode 146. link to that episode as well on this episode, episode 146. So here's a skeptic's creed and be sure to stick around afterwards to hear John and the message that he sent to us. Credulity is not a virtue. It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue, hypno Babylon bullshit. Couched in scientician, double bubble, bubble toil and trouble pseudo quasi alternative acupunctuating pressurized stereogram pyramidal
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Starting point is 01:13:25 During the 49-minute mark of episode number 143, 4011 teen by Tom's counting, Cecil put forth the following question to the show's black male listeners. If you're a heterosexual black male, what are the chances a white homo is going to take you away? Guys, as a faithful and black listener of your show, I will answer your question. My brain's wiring is such that the chances of a same-sex tryst for me would be less than 1%. Now, I execute a fair number of squat thrusts thrice daily when I'm puttering about in my home garden. As such, my gluteals are maximized to a higher plane of
Starting point is 01:14:19 adamantine vigor. So, if a homo demon were to attempt to penetrate me, I would merely squeeze my butt cheeks together and snap his dick off, and then, sans hands, fling his member into my compost pile. But, if Ian McKellen came armed with a bottle of Nivea skin lotion and a flagon of two-buck Chuck from Trader Joe's, well, oh shit, baby, let's get it on. And if it's a really good-looking white homo demon with a knurledled pulsating phallus that hooks just the right way to massage my prostate and milk me milk me milk me like an epileptic jersey maid having a grand mal seizure yes yes oh god
Starting point is 01:15:25 Yes! Yes! Oh God! Yes! Oh, I lost my train of thought. What I want to say is that at the end of this month, I will be attending my honorary nephew's bar mitzvah. The synagogue he attends is a very reformed one, so much so, in fact, that the rabbi is a rib woman, a vagina-bleeding skirt, if you will. Meanwhile, other members of the synagogue include sodomites, race mixers, and daughters of Sappho. Oh my.
Starting point is 01:16:06 And inevitably, during the after-surface reception and party, there will be dancing and merrymaking. So, as one of the 9.25 black men in America who cannot and will not dance, I may nevertheless be dragged bodily onto the dance floor by a white homo, perhaps by the two of whom I share a passing acquaintance. Thusly, may a white homo quote take me away unquote if indeed one considers Ashkenazi Jews to be white. Therefore, Tom and Cecil, must I give you a revised figure of greater than 20% for my possible abduction?
Starting point is 01:17:07 I hope, gentlemen, I have been of some small service to you in your sociological polling at the intersection of supernatural miscegenation and au fait buggery. I am always, good sirs, your most humble servant.

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