Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 157: I’ll have the Talibani on a Challah Roll.

Episode Date: June 16, 2014

     

Want to stream Cognitive Dissonance to your Android or iPhone? Buy the app! Go to DissonancePod.com and click on the link on the right-hand side of the page. Each purchase helps support the show. Hey guys, this is David in Kentucky. I was just calling you real quick to listen to the most recent episode. You guys were talking about PETA and their positions. I just wanted to point out that PETA is much more of a terrorist organization than you think.

They have a lot of shady financial connections to bombings in the past. And they're happy to collect money from pet owners, but the position actually is that any form of animal use at all is a slavery. No milk, no cheese, no medicines derived from animals, no animal products of any kind, which is a lot of various things. Um, and they also believe that having pets is a form of slavery.

Uh, they have some incredibly misanthropic, uh, viewpoints as well. Uh, they're, uh, actually a really dark and shady group that does a lot of terrible things. But I thought I'd at least give you the top point. Keep up the great work, guys, and glory hole. Hey, Tom and Cecil, this is Dan from Pittsburgh again. I was just calling to say that, yes, I finally did it. I have caught up with you motherfuckers in time and space. Took me, oh, about 120 days to get through all 155 episodes.

Woo! God, I'm just so fucking proud of myself right now for getting through all that shit. But, uh, now I don't really know what to do with myself. Uh, well, I guess I'll go see if the 700 close on or something. Glory hole! Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. Recording from Glory Hill Studios in Chicago, this is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there is no welcome at this.

This is episode 157, the triumphant, if somewhat late, return of Cognitive Dissidence. somewhat late return of cognitive dissonance, although I don't think the show schedule was terribly interrupted by the inconvenient and premature birth of my second child, Cecil. Jesus fucking Christ, Tom. It's all you, you, you, you, you. I know, right? God damn it. You know, I got to say, you know,

when the little guy was in the NICU and we were gathered around him, I was thinking, man, this is really going to put a cramp on the fucking show recording schedule, you little bastard. What the fucking? You're like shaking him. You're like, I got to do a podcast. Yeah, the nurses frown on that, you know, as it turns out. Wake up, kids.

Wake up. You know, actually, I want to relay a quick thank you because you were kind enough, Cecil, to give our listeners a little bit of a heads up when the kiddo was born. He came a little bit early, five weeks early. I didn't write that. Tom wrote that. Awesome. You're right to thank you to myself. Congratulations to yourself. Congrats to me.

I love that, too, because, like, congrats to me. What the fuck did I do? I just stood there. I know. I think I might have even said to Tom's family. I don't know that I said to you. Yeah, I think you said to Tom and his family. Oh, I totally didn't mean to.

You did give me credit. I didn't mean to. Even as I impregnated my wife, she gave me very little credit, you you know which is exactly what i deserved in that process but you know many of our listeners were kind enough to to send something congratulatory and for that i do want to extend my thank you because it was very kind and it was very heartwarming genuinely so thank you very much um and uh i also want to relay just like a quick story so everything's fine the kid was just a little bit early so he spent a few like prophylactic days in the nicu just like making sure that so everything's fine the kid was just a little bit early so he spent a few like prophylactic days in the NICU just like making sure that everything checks out fine so you're sitting in like that little radiation cell right where you gotta touch him with like

little gloves on and shit yeah it's just fucking ET shit you know what I mean like it's like a sandblaster it's like you can just and I'll tell you like we did put him in the basket of a bicycle and see if we could fly but I mean you crash four times, and they don't make helmets that small. They don't make irregular-shaped helmets either, because they've got a really weird sort of flat top. Yeah, they've got that cone head. But if you just press real hard, you can get one. It's a soft spot.

Oh, man. That's awesome. Oh, my God. Yeah, he just won't be good at math. But other than that, we're fine. He won't be good at speaking. That's just not going to be his forte. So it's not like, hey, I wanted a union man.

I'm really glad we're recording this in a reasonably soundproofed environment so my wife can't hear any of these comments right now this is the best so you know like we're down in this thing you know and they've got like all these kids that are like super tiny man like reptilian tiny right like 23 24 28 weeks And they're like, 23 is like the limit, right? What's the youngest you have? She's like, we have, we have the, uh, 20, we have one 23 week old, a 24 week old. And they had a couple between 28 and 30 weeks. And then 23 is like the limit. I think that's like crazy, man. And that's what she said. She's like, that's, that's really the limit for viability. And, uh, and she didn't look real hopeful about the viability, I will say, too. 23?

Jesus Christ. Yeah, dude, it's crazy. They're like, I mean, I wasn't like gawking. I wasn't like window shopping these kids. I mean, they must have pushed a jack somehow a little early. I mean, I don't understand. I don't know. 23.

I don't know what has to happen, man. But nothing good happens where you're like 23-week-old baby in the world. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. That Play-Doh still has to go through the fun factory. You know what I mean? It's still got to go through the crescent moon. It's really not ready.

It's like when you take bread out of the oven too early and you open the loaf and it's all fucking jello-y inside. You're like, oh, fuck that up. That that's not good that's not good at all like you know it's we're at this we're in it we're at an adventist hospital right so you know it's it's like a christian hospital for whatever that fucking means you know and like it's funny because you're in the nicu and like the nicu is like this kind of amazing place it's actually really amazing it's funny because you're in the NICU and the NICU is like this kind of amazing place. It's actually really amazing. It's stressful, but it's amazing because they have like an incredible, so you saw an amazing, an immense amount of technology like surrounding all of these micro humans, right? So they've got like all these little tiny fucking micro humans stacked all over like dog kennels, you know?

And then they've got, they're all hooked up to fucking gizmos and gadgets and fucking beeping alarms. And they have these fucking constant, I mean, and constant care by nurses who are like, it's not like when you go to the regular hospital, you're like, I'm an adult and I'm sick. And the nurse comes in and like pokes at you, takes a bunch of blood, checks your blood pressure and leaves for seven hours. Like, this is like literally constantly standing by some of these kids fussing with something like the whole time.

Well, like it's not like they fuss and then they leave. It's like if they leave, it's because somebody else is now on shift to fuss with this little tiny micro human, you know? And then so they've got like all this technology and like these people working super hard and demonstrating this incredible level of skill and expertise honed and passed on generationally and through, you know, the science and the materials and uses of different technologies. And then they've got these little things. It's like trust in the Lord and all things are possible. And it's like, really? Because I didn't see the Lord start an IV.

Like, where's, like, you know, until like Jesus shows up and it's like, oh, hang on a minute. Is it time for a fucking intravenous feeding of a fucking five-month-old child? Because I'm fucking game for that. I'm Jesus. I didn't see that motherfucker once. Lazy bitch. Yeah, you know, he's not a volunteer there you know what i mean he doesn't come in later on in the day to like rock the kids asleep jesus is a candy striper

it's just it's just this funny juxtaposition because it's like it's it has like all these like pithy little jesus quotes and they pop up on the screen savers for stuff yeah and you like i can't even like I'm sitting here and I'm like, how does anybody take this shit seriously right now? They got like a fucking lighthouse, you know, cause I got the fucking cheese ball imagery too. Like, it's like, here's a lighthouse and here's a quote, like I am the light and the fucking truth in the way.

And it's like, really? Cause all the lights I see were created by people and being monitored by people in this room to help other people. Right, right. Your fucking book ain't doing shit. Yeah. Your book is the laziest thing in this room. It almost feels like they're just sort of clamoring on the back of good science. You know what I mean?

Just being like, hey, look, don't forget about me. Don't forget that I'm, you know, the Jesus guy and all that stuff about Jesus. Remember Jesus? And then you'd be like, yeah, but all the stuff we do has nothing to do with Jesus and or the Bible. Right. Like, like none of this stuff. It's like all things are possible through the Lord. Unless, unless I'm like, you know, the ark that they describe is actually like a NICU, like little bin that they put the kids in. You know, it's got to be like

a cubit across or whatever. And then it's got maybe that's how they fit all the animals like they take them all like gestationally premature. Right. There's like a little fucking there's like a fucking baby rhino like on a fucking incubator. Exactly. It's like the zygote boat.

The zygote boat. The zy-boat. I love it. In the name of Jesus, we speak that. Hookah, hookah, chaka. I'm hooked on a feeling. I'm high on believing. So Cecil, the first story comes from Right Wing Watch. Wow. Tony Perkins says gay rights activists want anti-Christian Holocaust

and will start rolling out the boxcars. I think it's time to roll out a sound clip. Yeah, let's do this. This is from Tony Perkins' show, I guess. I don't even know. Washington Watch. So it's on his show. This is courtesy of Right Wing Watch. I'm beginning to think, now, are re-education camps next? When are they going to start rolling out the boxcars to start hauling off Christians? I mean, at what point do Christians say enough is enough? I think at the point they roll out the boxcars. That would be a good starting point, you know, to say.

I would say then is a good time. I love that. I love, too, like, when are they? Wait a minute. Who's they? Who's the they? Like the 2-4% of the population? It's communist China?

I don't even know what he's talking about. Who's going to place that order? And who fulfills that order? Like the boxcar companies? Like, wait a minute. Are these for Christians? Boxcar companies? I am not painting a cross on this.

I refuse. I'm sorry. Here's some more of this idiot. I guess when the witch hunt gets very painful or more personal. Or existence. But I guarantee that we are going to continue to see the witch hunt. And we will continue to see it carried out in the public square. And if they can't get to you in the public square,

in other words, if you don't have as much gravitas as someone like Sam Cathy or Brandon Ike, then they can get you into a civil rights commission or a tribunal. Wait, who is she talking about? If they don't have the gravitas of these two people nobody has ever heard of. What's the name? Brandon Ike? Is that what the person's name is?

I don't know. That sounds like an NFL player. It's so funny. It's like a guy with two first names. Brandon Ike for the kick. It's good. That's awesome. Yeah.

It's so funny because it's like it shows how small her world is. Right. Like, these are big players in her world. Like, she's like assuming these are household names. These are household names. And everybody's like, wait a minute. Yeah. Those aren't even people.

Yeah. Those are names you just made up. I love it when they call out the stuff though when they start talking about the boxcars when they i mean really we're talking about fucking boxcars we're talking about you know and and what kind of i mean if you were if you were a jew and you heard somebody bringing this shit out wouldn't this be the most insulting fucking thing that ever anybody's ever said because you know the boxcars were really used they were really used you're just using it as a way you know it's a it's a form of hyperbole to try to get your point across but then there's

this sort of it's like i don't even know what you would call it right tom because it's like hyperbole on one hand because it's clearly hyperbole. Right. But then you talk about it, and it almost feels like they want it to be true. Yeah, I'm not sure, man. It's like, I think they need for it to feel believable, if not true, you know? Because, like, obviously, like, nobody would really want 86% of the American population to be loaded in a boxcar. I don't even know where they would go.

Like, they'd be— No, they they just stay in the boxcar then. We're not sure. It's like low-income housing. It's just like, that's it. They're just like a boxcar and that's it. You would have to take some out of the boxcars just to hire them to do the killing of the other people in the boxcars.

Numerically, it doesn't work. You can't oppress 86% of the population.ars. Numerically, it doesn't work. You can't oppress 86% of the population. That's numerically impossible. Unless Christians are like that movie The One, where the more you kill, they become like the super Christian kids. You get their powers?

Yeah, but most of these idiots, their powers... They're like the Highlander. Like the problem, Cecil, is like, look, if you were to kill some of these fools for their powers, like, you would seriously get dumber. Like, their powers... Your IQ would be like, you fucking stabbed somebody, you're expecting, like, this rush of adrenaline. Instead, you're like, fucking, I know how to cross-stitch, but that's it. Like, are you kidding me? You're freaking your own name.

Like, I just, I feel like having like 75 kids. I must have gotten really... I'll tell you what, I know how to skin a coon. But what the scriptures are anxious to say, it's far more important that we be spiritually strong as a nation than that we be militarily strong. It's not enough to be militarily strong. If we are militarily strong, but we are spiritually weak as a nation we are going to go down and that's why

it's critical i believe to have a commander-in-chief who is a christian in chief first and then is our commander-in-chief jesus fucking christ also from right wing watch uh brian fisher fucking mouth vomits again. Cecil, what the fuck is this thing all about? Let's just play it. Who can speak for this fucking thing? I don't even know. As far as President Obama is concerned, these Taliban, they are not terrorists. They are freedom fighters.

A Taliban sounds like a kind of sandwich, doesn't it? I'll take Taliban. I'll have that on a holler roll, actually. I don't know that you're allowed to do that, Tom. I don't think you're allowed to have the talabani on the holler roll. And let's put

some locks on there. Can you put a schmear on there for me? Thanks, you're a bunch. Oh, man. Now, who are they fighting against? They are fighting against the United States. And I think that may explain some of President Obama's support of them,

why he is releasing them, knowing that they're going to go back to the field of battle. We know the recidivism rate is 29%. We know that our intelligence experts are telling us that four out of these five that we are releasing are going to go back to the battlefield. President Obama is asked, is that going to happen? He says, absolutely. He said it like he's happy about it,

like he doesn't have a problem in the world with it. Well, and it may be because the purpose of the Taliban is to defeat America, and he believes that America needs to be punished. Okay, I've got to stop this fucking idiot before we finish it. You don't think that if somebody was going to try to defeat America, and they were the fucking president of the United States,

they could do more fucking meaningful defeating than releasing four people? Like, this is a guy who has nuclear fucking codes. You know what I mean? And you're like, oh yeah, well, he fucking totally released four people. Fucking downfall of America. Here we come. But to be fair,

he did release Dr. Doom, Dr. Octopus. Galactus? Galactus? That's like, isn't it so funny? Cause like,

Brian Fisher's like, to hear him, make him hear a toy, it's like, it's like they're super villains. Right. Like, they have like, this fucking syndrome,

and we have to send the Incredibles out to recapture them. It's ridiculous. It's awesome. All right, there's a couple more seconds here. That we are incurably racist to the core, where we have a slaveholder mentality, and we have to be disciplined. We have to be brought down.

We have to be punished. And I believe he sees himself as the man to do it. And since that's the same objective as the Taliban has, that's why he really doesn't have a problem releasing them back to the field of battle. Yeah, so there's that. Here's the thing with Brian Fisher. You never know where to start with Brian Fisher because he just is like saying so many things all at once. It's like, well, you know, here's some crazy shit. Like we know there's a 29 percent recidivism rate.

We do. When he's like four out of these five guys is going to go back into the, you know, becoming terrorists. Like no shit, dude. Like what do you think they'd be like? Oh, OK. Well, you know, you guys fucking spent your time in Gitmo. Now we've got this ranch where you guys can just sit and live out the rest of your days. Yeah, right.

I mean, here's your 40 acres and a mule. Yeah, exactly. What are you supposed to do with these guys? You know, that's the thing nobody wants to talk about. We've got so many of these people that we've just basically let's call a shit what it is. Like we've basically just kidnapped, taken from. So they didn't receive any due process. They weren't, you know, tried for any crimes. They were basically just taken, you know, sometimes mass raids and they were forced from their country

and moved to this weird no man's land in Cuba fucking of all places. Right. And then, you know, they're just held against their will and interrogated. And if they're found not to be criminal, how do you like at what point do you release these people or do you never release them? what point do you release these people or do you never release them you just you just hold on to them till they fucking rot in in in prison for the rest of their lives for crimes we never charged them with how is that an ethical thing to do well this whole thing like this whole criticism really comes back to you know this this fucking crazy fucking nutball idea that like president obama

is an islamist that he is what does any word even mean i don't even i said that i think the worst thing is is that it's more it's more that he's you know he hates white people because of you know because there was racism yeah well that's that's the thing right like it i think i think the the claims that the fucking false liar's outcry that he is Islamic or whatever, it comes from the fact that he's a black dude with a funny name. Right. That's really where that comes from. Let's just cut all the fucking bullshit away. It's because he's a black dude with a funny name.

And that's it. If he wasn't a black dude with a funny name, nobody, I fucking guarantee if fucking George W. Bush had done the fucking exact same thing, nobody would be calling this guy a fucking Islamist or whatever the fuck that is. What if Mitt Romney did it? Right. You know, Mitt Romney ran against him. What if Mitt Romney had won? Yeah. And he did this exact same thing.

Would they be calling him an Islamist? No, of course not, man. It's just weird. Same thing. Would they be calling him an Islamist? No, of course not, man. It's just weird. It's like this weird thing that they're doing that they're saying, like, well, he fucking loves some fucking Islam. It's like, really?

Because he's a Christian dude that goes to a Christian church. So this story comes from KSTP.com. Whatever. No charges for ex-priests who admitted to abusing 12 teens. A former priest at the center of a lawsuit against church officials in the Twin Cities, he admitted that he sexually abused 12 teens from the 1960s to 1980s. But Cecil, it's not just 12. It could be more.

He's actually not even sure how many it is it's it's crazy that is crazy to me that he's not sure how many fucking kids he's diddled because they have they have records that show he may have abused as many as 40 children but when they asked him they were like so how many and, so how many? And he's like, how many times? He's like, several. And your best estimate? Well, I knew him for several years. And he's like, if it's the person I'm thinking it is. So you've done it enough where you're just like, is this? Was this Bill?

Or was this Tony? It's such a high number that he's like, I can't narrow it down to the most current dozen. You're just like, I mean, it's bad enough. It's bad enough that when they're asking him during the deposition, he says, that would be just a guess, several. Over 100? I mean, wouldn't you even have to ask that question? Right. And he says no to it. But it's like, wait a minute.

have to ask that question right and he says no to it but it's like wait a minute we have to even have a conversation here where you are so like you said flippant with the numbers that you're just like i'm not even sure you know the thing is that they ask him too and this is the part that blows me away it says did you at the time in your state of mind did you realize look i'm a priest i'm an adult this is a kid this is crime. Did that go through your head? Asked Jeff Anderson, the alleged victim's attorney. Never, Adamson replied. I don't think. I looked at it more as a sin than a crime. And this is the thing I want to talk about with, in relation to this story. There's another story that's similar too, is, you know, I have a lot of problem with the idea of sin because I think it's total

bullshit. There is no such thing as sin. It's made up nonsense. But more than that, it's a really violently destructive idea, this idea of sin. Because if you're dividing your actions between what's morally right and wrong and what's sinful or not sinful. And you're looking at this idea of sin as the bigger worldview, like the more important worldview, right? And my sins can be forgiven. And they are. They're things I can atone for. They're things I can do and then regret later because that's really the only thing that's required, right, is to regret. And then you're absolved from it. Well, that's a fuck of a lot different than, you know, like the moral worldview, Cecil, that you and I have, where it's like, if I do something reprehensible, it, to me, that's part of my worldview says that redefines my self-definition, and I become in part a reprehensible person. It redefines my being.

It's not something I can just be like, look, tra-la-la, washed it away. This guy is so fucking flip about it because it's just a sin. It's this meaningless thing that all you have to do is feel remorseful for later. And then you're magically forgiven. And so it becomes meaningless. And whether it's criminal or not criminal is fucking immaterial. And it almost feels like the way he's saying that, it feels like it's a less than.

He's like, well, it's a sin, but not a crime. It's like jerking off. You know what I mean? It's like, that's a sin, but it's not a crime. It's like looking lustfully at a woman. Well, that's a sin, but it's not a crime. It's like diddling a at a woman. Well, that's a sin, but it's not a crime. It's like diddling a kitten. Wait, hold on. That's a fucking crime, asshole. That's a crime.

So, you know, you could think all you want that it's a sin, and it may be. Those two things aren't mutually exclusive in your own worldview where it's like, well, if it's a sin, it's not a crime. If it's a crime, it's not a sin. But the very idea that you would say some shit like that, like I could say, I mean, yeah,

you're talking about fucking, you know, looking at pornography. Yeah, that's a sin and not a crime in your worldview. But man, when you're talking about fucking diddling a kid, get your head out of your own ass because that's a fucking crime, stupid. How the fuck do you get away with saying that? Like when the person even has to say that,

when the fucking attorney has to say, did you at that time in your state of mind, did you realize, look, I'm a priest. I'm an adult. This is a kid. This is a crime.

Did that go through your head? Who the fuck has to be asked that? Who in the fuck? I mean, unless you are fucking dumb. I mean, like we're talking like, like you have half a brain.

Let's say like you physically had half of your brain removed from your head somehow that's the only way i think you could get away with that question being asked to you and you giving a fucking actual answer because otherwise that's just i mean i can't even fucking believe that somebody would say something like that out loud and you know the very fact that he's talking, he's like, we said it earlier, he says, your best estimate. He's like, well, I knew him for several years. This is the person I'm thinking of. This is like remembering what fucking dish somebody brought to a fucking potluck or something.

I could see you forgetting that. What did I bring to Sally's potluck? What was it? I could see you forgetting that, right? What did I bring to Sally's potluck? What was it? Not forgetting which fucking person you fucking ruined the life of by diddling them when they're a child. And, you know, the worst part, too, is that later on in this article, they start talking about how this, you know, they start talking to the person in specific who's, you know, being, you know, who was abused and doesn't want to see this trial. And essentially what, what they said was, you know, I'm really, I feel bad for this

guy because he's clearly sick and he was offered no help because their position was, this is something we need to hide, not something we need to fix. And that's a fucking big distinction because when you hide it, you just are essentially giving it your blessing. You know, and I use that word intentionally here, giving it your blessing and saying, yeah, as long as we don't talk about it, it's OK. But the fact of the matter is, is that this guy could have been helped or removed from children's care, you know, essentially segregated from children.

But they never fucking took the opportunity because they never wanted to admit that something happened. And that's pure fucking evil. So we're going to take a short break. We're going to give you some information on how to donate to the program, how to get in contact with us, and we'll be back right after this. Want to contact the guys? Go to DissonancePod.com to get links to their Google+, Facebook, and Twitter accounts.

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See, so the story is like fucking second verse, same as the first, right? So this also comes from the raw story. Essentially, what we did time is we took two priests and the break is like the little kid in between them. Oh no! It's like a priest

kitty sandwich? Oh God. Yeah, is that illegal? I can't tell. Is that illegal? I don't know if that's illegal because I'm fucking an idiot. I'm a complete fucking jackass. A fucking

deplorable, wretched, awful fucking human. Oh, gosh. Ridiculous. St. Louis Archbishop claims he wasn't sure it was illegal for priests to have sex with kids. You know, I saw this floating around a lot. How do you not know? Because, you know, they came out and they said, no, no, no, no. It was taken out of context. Well no. It was taken out of context.

Well, it wasn't taken out of context. They fucking put, I read some of the transcript, and they fucking, you know, these trial transcripts are very black and white. They ask a very direct question that has, generally speaking, a yes or no answer to it. And then somebody answers fucking yes or no answer to it. And then somebody answers fucking yes or no to the question. It's not like they put you up on the fucking stand and they say,

So, how you been? Tell us about your life. It's not like, oh, and then he weaved this magical tale of his days in the 70s and it was a magical time and he rode a fucking hippie-colored bus around and he's a little hazy on the details. None of that.

They fucking ask him, like, did you think that it was a crime to have fucking sex with children? Did you know that that was a crime? He's like, I'm not sure whether I know it was a crime. He says, I understand today it's a crime. Oh, do you think they passed a law recently which says, wait a minute, no more sex with kids. And, you know, like the thing is, and then I'll let you go, but like I don't believe either one of these guys. Right. Because I'm not that stupid.

They knew it was fucking illegal. You know these things are illegal because you know that they're fucking immoral. And even if you don't, like, even if you don't have that part of you that just fucking screams that this is an obviously immoral action, even if that part of you is fucking somehow

damaged or broken, all you have to do is look at every ad, every television program, every relationship you've ever known across all of history and time and notice that there are no children engaged in serious romantic relationships with adult men it's not like you turn on fucking tv and it's like like a like a kindergartner like walks in the door with his fucking lunchbox. He's like, honey, I'm home.

It's not Hardcastle and McCalkin. You know what I mean? What the fuck? Yeah. For the life of me, I can't figure out how they can get away with saying this stuff how they can you know because and the other thing that drives me just fucking insane is how many sex scandals do we have to go through um where i mean you know fucking let's let's just look at like monica lewinsky right it's all over the place the sex scandal it's like fucking like constant scandal fucking um what's his face taking a dick pic you know what i mean like that guy uh yeah the wiener

took a took a dick pic right and then like all this other and it's like sex scandal stuff just gets blown up all over the news constantly right how often do you really hear about this stuff you know i mean like yeah it kind of hits the news but it's really just sort of a flash in the pan and people just kind of yawn at it nowadays right i know it's yeah yeah another one of those things you know what they need to do is, you know, when they're fucking, Clinton was banging away on Lewinsky, and they put it on fucking national television. They need to put this shit on national television. They need to have like a fucking, you know, one of those congressional hearings on fucking television to talk to these motherfuckers.

Right. You know what I mean? Like, okay, well, you know, clearly there's a fucking culture here where you guys don't think that it's, that you think it might not be a crime. Well, we need to talk then. They make all these other people crawl on the carpet constantly. Why does this not get any publicity? Why is this on the Raw story and not on – NBC. NBC, yeah.

Right. It's funny that you say that because it's like a bunch of fucking athletes take steroids and there's a big goddamn congressional committee. Right. It's all over. Like, oh, my God, maybe the home run record is, you know, less accurate or fucking whatever. got involved in was like, well, we should call up a baseball player. I can't think of one. Like, we shouldn't have him talk to us about whether he took steroids and we should fucking pretend this is an actual conversation worth having. Like, why are we not list like immediately bipartisanly passing a law with no fucking like nobody should abstain or nay it. It just says like, look, if you're part of a church organization and you knowingly cover up or do not actively report like the the abuse of a child then you get fucking life in prison or whatever it is you know some like just like just this is a huge punishment this you you can't fucking pull this well golly gee i wasn't sure if fucking that seven-year-old boy in the ass was a good thing or a bad thing.

What are you kidding me? You're all dead. Oh, be nice. Oh, my son doesn't stand a chance. The whole world's gone gay. Oh, my God. What's happening now? We work hard.

We play hard. Everybody dance now! So this story comes from DailyCost.com. A prominent pastor or radio host offers chilling advice to parents with adult kids who are gay. Chilling is fucking right, man. This fucking advice is like fucking Pat Robertson level bad. Well, let's listen to it. We received a very interesting letter and question recently, and this is it.

My adult child just came out. In other words, declared to be a homosexual. What do I do? You know, the answer depends. You know, the answer depends. If that adult child professes Christ, claims to be a Christian, then that becomes an issue for confrontation of the sternest and strongest kind, because that falls into Matthew 18. That's a sin for which you go to that person. If the person doesn't repent and turn, you take two or three witnesses and confront again. If there's still no repentance, you tell the church, and the church pursues. And if there's

still no repentance, then there's a public putting out of the church of that person who professes to be a Christian. That's how you deal with that. On the other hand, if this adult child doesn't profess to be a Christian, then he or she is just acting like a non-Christian. That's a whole different issue. In the first case, if they profess to be a Christian, you have to alienate them. You have to separate them. You can't condone that. It's inconsistent with the profession of Christ. So you isolate them. You don't have a meal with them. You separate yourself from them. You turn them over to Satan, as it were, as Scripture says. But if that's a non-believer, you have to treat them like a non-believer,

and non-believers do what non-believers do. And then the issue is to bring the gospel compassionately, directly, confrontationally to expose that sin and all other sins and call that person to salvation and repentance. In that case, you might want to spend more time confronting and showing compassion but calling for salvation. What the fuck? You're actually better off with this fucking guy being you're a non-believer a non-believer yeah in his family at least if you're a non-believer in this family and you happen to be gay

then they show you like his his advice is like well just keep fucking throwing the bible at him be compassionate though at least he throws compassion in there but if you happen to believe in his fucking even if you're if you happen to believe in his fucking even if you're if you're like yeah man same fucking worldview except for that i just you know like i'm physically attracted to the same sex as myself it's like well can't eat dinner at my house anymore son like i don't love you anymore fucking shun again turned you over to the devil i believe in a thing called the devil and I'm turning my kid to it. I actually feel genuinely bad for someone whose belief structure and life structure around their own church puts them in contact with someone this abhorrent, with someone this uncaring that essentially would would give them advice and wholesale advice

i mean he's not even talking about one specific instance right he's talking about he basically breaks down all coming out stories to two instances right either they're believers or they're not and if they're believers here's what you do and if they're believers, here's what you do. And if they're not, then here's what you do. It's like he wrote a fucking like a way in which to fucking program your TiVo. You know what I mean? It's like if you have cable service, you do this. If you have fucking antenna service, you do this. I mean like a technical writer writes better or gives better advice than this. The very idea too that he's going to convince them and say, look, you know what you need to do is you need to shun the people in your

family, not have a meal with them, get them away from you, fucking out them to your, your, the people around them, out them to their church. I mean, that may be a real serious thing you're doing when you out them to their entire church. People have been, you know, seriously hurt by other human beings because they happen to be gay. That's not a thing that's just a fucking myth, right? That's a thing that happens sometimes. And then to continue on and be like, okay, well, if they won't repent to that sin, then you need to get rid of them out of your life. I just feel genuinely bad for people who have to deal that, that would look to this guy for guidance. I feel absolutely horrible that

there's people out there that think that this guy has good advice to give. Yeah. This is, I mean, you ever see like the little bracelets, you know, like the, who would Jesus shun bracelets? You know, shunning is one of those awesome, you know, techniques to really bring people into the fold. Nobody is pro-shunning. I can't even think of a situation where you're like, yeah, I would shun. I would totally shun somebody for that. That's a good, there's a shunning example of how you treat people.

That's great. Isn't that, I mean, that's just, and it's just like that, it solves no problem. It solves nothing to shun someone. No, it's immature, man. It's like, yeah, it's like fucking sticking your fingers in your ears. Yeah. I mean, if it was,

if it solved any kind of problems, don't you think like social workers would have that as like one of the things that they could do? Right. Imagine a psychologist being like, well, have you tried shunning him no because it's a fucking awful idea like nobody's and it's not like anybody's ever been like man you guys shunned me and then i totally like having sex with girls right man that's awesome

like before when i would see girls my dick wouldn't get hard because like it's not just it's just not the gender I was attracted to. But man, because my mom won't sit down and have dinner with me and my dad fucking looks the other way when I cross the street and my fucking brother won't play ball with me anymore. Man, I totally get hard looking at girls now. Thanks, mom and dad. My post shunning penis is rock hard.

Evolution. Evolutionary thinking. It's dangerous. And it's anti-American. I don't even know what to do with this. Salon.com. Creationist author asks, if evolution is true, is rape wrong? I don't,

what's your answer? Seriously. Ask me that question. I don't even know if the answer is yes or no. It doesn't make any sense. Question makes so little sense. Wait a minute. It's like,

it almost feels like it's, it's like a cold war era code. Like, you know, you're just like, like it's like Cold War era code. You're trying to decide whether or not a bomb is armed or something. There's this great line from David Rakoff where he's trying to interpret this application to become a U.S. citizen. And he just says, I make my living with words. And I cannot even begin to parse out this sentence. And I fucking hear that every time. It's like, if evolution is true, is rape wrong?

It's like, I don't know. If bananas are orangutans, is blue red? Like, fucking what are you saying? Yes, it is. Yes. Yes. You know, here's the problem. And I think that this is this is the biggest problem that you run into as someone who is not a believer in a God.

Is that the people who believe in a God, their creation myth is intertwined with their own morality in a deep and fundamental way and the explanation for creation on the other side is not tied to it but they don't understand it's like an input output error in a computer where you're just like where you try to enter something in and they're just like and and they're just like, banana head. And you're like, wait, that's not a thing. And then you enter it again and they're like shoelace face. And you're like, oh no, I don't think this is working out. You know, they just, they will just respond.

They can't, they can't pull those two things apart. It is absolutely, they're, they're integral to each other. Creation is by a God and that God gives us morals they think well your creation is by evolution so your evolution must give you morals and you're like no

that's not how morals work and you know what you really want to say is that's not how your morals worked either because your creation myths and all those things that are passed down, those are all myths to, to help explain the morality of a group of people that lived in a certain time. So it's, you know, the reason why all those, those stories exist, the story of Abraham,

the story of, you know, the story of Noah, the story of Adam and Eve, et cetera, et cetera. They all exist in that book to help explain some history portion of that tribe of people. And from them, they gleaned these moral ideas. The thing is, is that you can't open the fucking origin of species and find anything in there about whether or not it's okay for a human male to rape a human female yeah you know but that i think you hit the nail on the head man there's their evolution does not speak to morality and they can't get this out like they just can't do this just like evolution doesn't speak to the creation of the universe right but they're just like they're fucking baffled they're like you need it's it's almost like they're saying like look

everything has to have one end point right everything has to come back to a single point and if everything doesn't come back to a single point then they just simply if you're just like yeah it's you know morality has nothing to do with evolution. Evolution is the change in speciation and change over time. And they just can't, like, they can't do it. Like, they can't, they cannot have discrete answers to discrete questions. Everything has to have global answers. And this guy, like, I mean, he's doing that tired old thing. Like he's saying like, well, you know, I mean, if, if evolution is true and, you know, men are just propagating their DNA and applying evolutionary thought to humanity, then it's the strongest male who can survive. Like that's not like evolutionary biology would like an evolutionary psychologist would not back that.

Like what they would do is look at the world that we live in, like, and say, well, okay, why do we have this taboo? Like, how does this fit or not fit into, you know, this evolutionary model? Like, it's also, it's doing it backwards, right? It's doing the fucking science backward. Everything about it is wrong. Like, seriously, everything about it is wrong. It's why the question makes no sense. Fucking hell, man.

Media matters. Washington Post's George Will, sexual assault victim, is now a coveted status. This might be the most deplorable human I've heard of this week. George Will says that colleges and universities

are being educated by Washington or finding the experience excruciating. They're learning that when they say campus victimizations are ubiquitous learning that when they say campus victimizations are ubiquitous and that when they make victimhood a coveted status that confers privileges, victims proliferate. So what he's saying is that there are more victims of sexual violence because the status of being a victim of sexual violence

is somehow a privileged status, Cecil. It's true because I remember every time you get sexually assaulted, they give you like a tough mutter headband. Like you wear like a badge of honor. Like you just like you wear that. It's like, you know, like mutter Mondays. They wear those to work. You know what I mean? Like it's like sexual assault Fridays.

You just wear like your armband just so other people know that I guess you've been sexually assaulted. I don't know. Oh, what a dumb thing to say, right? What a dumb thing, because he's essentially, what he's saying is, is that, oh, well, sexual assault isn't as bad as you think it is. You know, it's, it's one of those, it's one of those preposterous fucking arguments where people want to manipulate the statistics to say that, you know, sexual assault isn't as bad as you think it is. Well, you know, here's the thing. What fucking possible purpose can you glean from this except for you're trying to make

some sort of political fucking hay over this? Yeah, right. That's it. I mean, and this is I mean, is there any other way then? I mean, is there any other more clear cut of making the victim small, like making this like he's just brushing it off like this is a crime that's not an important crime. This is the victims of sexual assault. We're spending too much time paying attention to this shit. The victims of sexual assault get superpowers after they're done.

Right. Like they can shoot fucking lasers out of their vaginas as a result. Yeah, right. Like, here we are talking about all this stuff, and they get all the benefits, damn it. Right. Yeah, man. If only I could be violated against my will, then I, too, would have that coveted status of, you know, crying in the shower.

Like, that's like, are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me, you awful fucking human? Like, would, I mean, you just have to ask the guy, like, well, would you want your fucking wife or daughter to be raped? Like, would you want to be raped? Like, can I, can I, can I fucking break into your home and rape you? Because if the answer is yes, then, then I don't know may their answer is not yes so it doesn't even matter it's just a crazy fucking thing to say yeah the answer is never is you know one of the things i was thinking about too we were talking a while back about the you know because there's this there's this other thing that goes into the

the victimhood because they talk about um how you how, you know, rape, you know, you talk all this time about rape. Well, women can prevent rape. They can prevent it. You know, they can, you know, they wear all these sexy clothes all the time. And, you know, that's the thing that, you know, if they were just, if they just paid more attention, essentially like you wouldn't like leave your keys in your car outside, you know, you wouldn't leave the keys in your car, you know, and then you're, you're an idiot if you do that or whatever, et cetera. And clearly there's, there's, there's something to be said about women trying to remain safe. Right. I mean, clearly there's something to be said there, but a lot of rapes actually happen by people, you know, right. So like there's a

majority, I think it's a majority. If not, it's a close to majority of people like to get raped. They know the person who's rap get raped. They know the person who's raping them. They know that person. So that would be like me saying like, I got this brand new bike and yeah, maybe I wouldn't want to leave it outside unlocked, but that would be like me taking the bike over to your house, Tom, and you stealing it from me. I'd be like, what the fuck? You know what I mean? Like, I didn't expect that. I fucking didn't expect it. Like, wait. And then suddenly you're just like, oh, well, fucking yeah.

But, you know, you should have. It was a nice bike. Cecil. It was a really nice bike. You shouldn't have brought that bike over to Todd's. Or, like, me leaving the keys in my ignition when I go over to, like, my in-law's house and one of their fucking kids goes out and steals my car. I'd be like, what the fuck, man?

You fucking stole my car. We're supposed to be friends. You know what I mean? Like, that doesn't even make any sense. Like, most of the rapes happen from people you know,

but all these people want to say, well, yeah, she was dressed like a slut and she was asking for it. It's like, man, nobody's asking for somebody

to take my, I'm not asking for every time I go to your house for somebody to steal my fucking wallet. You know what I mean? I'm stealing your shit next time you come to your house, there's somebody to steal my fucking wallet. You know what I mean? I'm stealing your shit next time you come to my house.

Just fucking take it all. I'm just going to steal your shit. I'm going to steal one thing from you every time I see you. I'm getting held up at gunpoint. I'll get held up at gunpoint at your house. And then afterwards, people can ridicule me and be like, what the fuck? You went over to his house with a wallet and a car? How fucking dare you?

What did you think was going to happen? Well, we've been friends for 16 fucking years. I didn't think it would kill me, you know? Well, that's the thing too, right? Like, it's like, well, women can prevent rape. Well, like, you know, men can prevent rape much easier. Right? And I know we're going to get the emails that like rape is not only men on women.

I understand that. But the majority of it is. So that's the conversation we're having. So please don't send that email. But like men can prevent rape much easier because like for me, like it's really easy for me just to not rape people. You know what I start off by doing is not fucking raping anybody. Then in the middle, I make sure not to fucking rape anybody. Yeah. At the end, I don't rape people. It's the same thing. It's like if I walked past a car and the car had keys in the ignition, I wouldn't be like,

I do have to steal. Hold on a minute, son. Exactly, right? Exactly. I've got to steal this car because there's keys in it. That's not how my mind works. I walk past a car with keys in it, I'm like, it's not my fucking car.

In fact, if I walk past a car with keys in it, I might look around to tell the owner, hey, fucker, you left your keys in the car with keys in it, I'm like, it's not my fucking car. In fact, if I walk past a car with keys in it, I might look around to tell the owner, hey, fucker, you left your keys in the car. Someone might steal your fucking car. Exactly. Because you try to do the right thing because you're not a degenerate. You want answers? I think I'm entitled. You want answers!

I want the truth! You can't handle the truth! So this last story comes from Right Wing Watch. Rick Wiles fears America is transforming into a godless pagan cesspool of Freemason fascism. Adjective, adjective, adjective, adjective. It's so awesome. I love this guy. Let's listen to him.

It's only a minute long, and this is from Rick Wiles, Wiles America, or whatever it is. I don't even know. Whatever his shit show is. The takedown of the Constitutional Republic of the United States of America is in full motion in 2014. This is it. The Illuminati Freemasons are determined. Wait, hold on a second. I can't.

I'm sorry. Did he say Illuminati? He said it out loud, man. Like, this guy believes National Treasure is a documentary. Wait, who approved this? Was it the Grand Poobah? Did he approve this? Was he sitting in the right throne?

It's the Illuminati and the Royal Order of Water Buffalo. They're going to get us all. They're going to get us. Bring me ribs that tip over my car. Flintstones. Meet the Flintstones. All right, let's finish this up. To dismantle the original Republican form of government in order to finalize the transformation of this country into a godless pagan cesspool

of Freemason fascism. Wait, hold on. It's a cesspool of Freemason fascism. What does that mean? What does any of that mean? I'm thinking of that quote you said earlier. All of those things are English, but I can't for the life of me put all those things together in a meaningful sentence. I fucking love that shit.

It's like I know every word you used, yet I have no idea what you're saying right now. All right, hold on. Here's more. Look at the insanity of what Obama is doing with the invasion of illegals into Texas and Arizona. sanity of what obama is doing with the invasion of illegals into texas and arizona officials say that at least 1 000 illegal immigrants are crossing into texas from mexico every day sheriff departments in border counties are being overwhelmed by the invasion the invasion is being encouraged and aided by the obamanista communist regime in the white house obamanista it sounds like a really neat little coat you could wear.

You know what I mean? Like it's like, oh, you got a little Obamanista. Oh, you're wearing the Obamanista. Is that the fall version? Is it the fall Obamanista? Yeah. Or maybe an Obamanista is like an aficionado of Obamas. Like he's like an Obamanista.

He knows everything there is to know about the obamas it actually sounds to me like a fruity tropical drink like i'll have one obamanista um yeah you can put the sugar around the rim what the fuck we're out right guy it's all good yeah i what okay so he has now switched straight to immigration are all of the immigrants freemasons that's what they don't i don't understand like do they all like is that where they stay they go to the freemason illuminati lodge and the illegal illegal alien freemason illuminati lodge but they're a bunch of pagans at the what the fuck all right there's still 10 more seconds left. They are coming at the American people from every direction.

Homosexual rights, gun confiscation, illegal immigrant amnesty, and so on. What are you saying? In 10 seconds. In 10 seconds. Homosexual sodomy or whatever, gun confiscation, and illegal immigrants all in the same sentence. I hope all three of those things are all together, actually. I think it's like, I hope it's like a homosexual illegal immigrant

that wants to take your guns away. Like that's what I want. Hola, I'm here for your guns. I'm wearing my hot pants man i love too that this guy is described as an end times broadcaster oh man that's fucking you know you gotta wonder like when you take that job are you worried about the 401k you know you're just like i'm really going to plan for my retirement. I am an end times broadcaster. This guy, though, more than anything, sounds like a mad lib. Like you just basically

took all of his, you just take all the talking points and just stuff it in and then he just recites something. Yeah, it's just fucking madness. And speaking of mad libs, we got one right now. So let's play a game, Tom. Okay, let's do it. All right, so I need a part of the body.

Taint. Taint. I think you've done that one before. I may have. But it's a good one. You got another one? Kidney stone. Kidney?

I don't know. Is that a part of your body? A proper noun. Hoover Dam. I don't know if that's going to work because I think it's a person. Do you want me to come up with a person? No, no, it's okay. Nationality. It'll be funnier if it's a person. Do you want me to come up with a person? No, no, it's okay. Nationality.

It'll be funnier if it's a fucking Hoover Dam. Okay, because if it's person, I want to choose Hamburglar if it's a person. Okay, well, no, we'll do something else. What's the nationality? Pacific Islander. Part of the body. Frenulum. I need three plural animals.

Platypuses, wombats, and juggalos. How the fuck does magnetism work? Two nouns. Turkey baster and pajamas. It's going to be a party tonight. Actually, isn't that how your son was born? Maybe not born, but conceived. Two verbs, past tense.

Rammed and fisted. I think those are the same one. Parts of a body. Esophagus. Two verbs. Chase and drink. And two liquids. Turtle wax.

Windex. I didn't even know that's a fucking... That's turtle wax is a solid. They sell it in a liquid. I never understood why people wax their turtles. This doesn't make any sense to me. It's for shuffleboard. That's why.

Is that what it's for? Yeah. It's for that Canadian ice game, that chuffing or whatever they call it, curling. Like where they got the grooms. They used to use turtles. You gotta wax the show of that. Okay, here we go. We gotta practice in the summer. Eating taint and kidney stone forbidden. Someone's no fun. The Lord

said to Hoover Dam, say to the Pacific Islanders, do not eat any of the frenulum of the platypuses, wombats, or juggalos. The turkey baster of a pajamas found dead or the rammed by wild animals may be used for other purposes, but you must not eat it. Esophagus of an animal in front of which a food offering may be presented to the Lord, but must be cut off from their people. And wherever you chase, you must not drink the turtle wax of any bird or animal.

And anyone who eats Windex must be cut off from their people. I love that someone fisted someone's esophagus. That's the best thing ever. So this week, we actually got something in the mail from one of our listeners. John was very kind. He sent not only a donation,

which was generous and we very much appreciate, but he also sent some really cool artwork. He sent a couple of really great looking photos that were very artfully framed. They're quite nice.

I plan to hang at least one of them here in the Glory Hole studio. I'm not sure exactly how I'm going to do that through the acoustic soundproofing shenanigans, but we'll figure it out because it's here and it's very cool. And I wanted to say thank you.

It was a nice treat to come home to and to open that box up. I appreciate it very much. Thank you. So we want to thank our patrons, our other patrons. We want to thank, first off, everybody who's a patron to the show. We really appreciate all that you've donated it's really gone a long way to making like Tom said the studio there we're looking to actually get a brand new mic very soon

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We want to thank this week our newest patrons, Sean Camel Pope. That's a great name. I love that. Rachel, Kim, Duncan, Sonia, Timo, Aiden, Jason, Wingy, and Amanda. Thank you all very much. We really appreciate all your donations. And we want to thank, like we said, everybody who's donated to the show. We got two emails this week that were great. Both of them have to do with stamps and both of them have to do with gay stamps it turns out. It's just awesome. It's just awesome. The first

one was from Shane and Shane says he's a postal worker in a small conservative area and when he sells single stamps at the window, he always picks the stamps that he knows are divisive to conservatives.

He gives out lots of milk stamps as well as Black Heritage and Go Green stamps. I love it. He says, and this is a quote from him, it always brings me joy to think of the reactions of the recipient when their conservative friends send them envelopes with pro-gay stamps. That is awesome. And then we got a message from Petri, Tom, with stamps I was incredulous actually existed. Yeah, this is awesome. In Finland, they have gay stamps, and they are so gay.

They're the gayest stamps. I'm going to put a picture of this on this week's episode, episode 151. So if you want to see this, you have to go to the website DissonancePot.com and you'll get a chance to see some pretty gay stamps. That's pretty hilarious. These stamps would not fly in the States. Oh, goodness, no. The first one with the ass? I don't think the ass would be a good thing. We got an email from Jason who wants me to do an English accent. This is English.

I am speaking English. But Jason says that on their version of Craigslist over there, he said he found some pictures of a glory hole. And actually, to be honest, it's a glory hole. There's a bridge with a glory hole. It's like this really

awesome print that he sent us from Gumtree in the United Kingdom. I guess that might be their version of Craigslist is what he was saying. It's the coolest print. It's cool. It's very cool. It's like 50 pounds. Goodness gracious. That's like more money than I've ever seen

I think. Yeah, I mean, like what's the exchange rate? It's like a billion to one or something like that. I may be a little off. It's like one America to one pound. But it is very nice. Thanks for sending it. So I would need a whole 50 Americas.

No, that's really cool. Thank you. You know, it's funny that you get a chance to see how many different names Glory Hole has, right? Like how many different places Glory Hole shows up. I don't know. I think it's awesome. We got a message from Andrew and we got a message from a lot of other people.

Andrew was saying, we were talking last week about being a little self-deprecating and he sends us a message to essentially, we shouldn't be so self-deprecating. But there's one thing that he says, he's basically saying, the people at PETA are twats

and he says that they're essentially using scare tactics to try to scare scientists from doing research. When Tom and I said that we agree with some of their positions, what we mean to say is that there's some things that they say that could be conversation starters that might change someone's mind, like eating lots of meat in the way in which we consume meat today in a farming situation that is, you know, the factory farming situations that exist might not be the best thing. That's a conversation worth having. But when they start talking about whether or not fucking you should eat honey because that's slavery, I fucking that's dumb.

That's a dumb thing to say. And I don't have any tolerance for that. Yeah. So I and I think I think any tolerance for that. Yeah. So I, and I think, I think I'm in the same boat. So PETA, the thing I'm frustrated with about PETA is that they have some stances that I think are worthy of at least having a, like you said, like a good conversation about, like, let's, let's have a conversation individually and then, you know, nationally to talk about what kind of culture we want to have and what kind of world we want to live in,

and how does our treatment of animals fit with that worldview that we want to create and the world that we want to perpetuate for our children and so on. And how does our stewardship of the earth play into the way that we treat animals? Those are good conversations to have. The problem is that PETA has every conversation with the volume turned to 11 and the position that they take is so fucking outlandishly caricaturized that they're impossible to take seriously. When they tell me that my dog is a slave animal because it exists at my fucking whim and discretion and discretion they're like i've fucking i've i can't even hear you anymore like at that point i just want to go by like i want to fucking start a puppy mill at that point like i become reactionary and annoyed right you know right

and and there there's other stuff there's way others that they're they're they're linked to terrorist groups there's uh you know certain funding money that that went back and forth there there's there's lots of other stuff that's shady we're clearly not pita supporters but we do think that there are some things that pita pita suggests just like i mean just like if you know with anybody who's the craziest person in the world can say something that you know might be worth exploring so that's where we were coming from with that. I remember Cecil in college, I had this conversation with some dude from PETA at one of those booths, and he was trying to, his thing was like, are you a racist? And he's like, he really meant speciesist, but, you know, and it was like about how like, He didn't think that went through.

Yeah, so we went that route for a moment. But then, you know, at one point I remember asking him, like, so wait a minute. I'm like, if your fucking house was on fire and you ran into your house and the fucking roof was about to collapse and you had the time to grab either a human or a rat. Like there's a rat in a cage and then there's a fucking toddler. And you've got time to grab one of the two things before the roof collapses and everything and it dies are you honestly telling me that for even a moment you're morally conflicted about which of the two animals to grab out of that burning building because he's trying to draw say that there's no distinction and he looked me right in the eyes and he's like i hope i would be morally conflicted i'm just like this conversation's over

yeah the only way you're morally conflicted. I'm just like, this conversation's over. Yeah, the only way you're morally conflicted is if the baby's heavily insured. It's like it's such a crazy, like their arguments are so fucking ridiculously cartoonish. Tom, we got a message from someone who has a Facebook page that's very, very useful. Yeah, I like this Facebook page a lot. It's LD, very useful. Yeah, I like this Facebook page a lot. It's LDL memes. So if you look up LDL memes on Facebook. We'll actually link to it on this show. Yeah, it's cool.

It stands for Lies, Damned Lies, and Memes. And the intention of it is to take those stupid fucking memes that are all around, like, you know, you know what I'm talking about. All those fucking, you know, Twin Towers and fucking toxicity memes and all that stupid nonsense. And then he breaks them down. Like here's the claim. Here's the facts. Here's whether or not they're accurate or inaccurate. And it's really very cool.

He does his research. He does a cool job putting this thing together. I liked it very much. I thought it was very cool. Thanks for sending it to us. Another picture that we're going to put on this week is the proof of God picture. I'm not going to describe it. It made me laugh and especially made me laugh because of the image on the third book.

That's all I'm saying. I think it's hilarious. So you should check it out. Proof of God image on this week's episode, episode 157, dissonancepod.com. It's very funny. Finally, Tom, we did do a Mad Leviticus this week, but a bunch of people have been talking about Cards Against Humanity, and Alex said if you took some of the Cards Against Humanity

and mixed it with Leviticus, you would get something very, very funny. Tom, why don't you read what he did for Leviticus 3, 1, and 2? If your offering is a grammar Nazi, who are also regular Nazis offering, and you offer an animal from the herd, whether male or female, you are firing a rifle while balls deep in a squealing hog. Before the Lord, an animal without defect, you are getting naked while watching Nickelodeon on the head of your offering and slaughtered at the Kanye West to the tent of meeting.

Then Aaron's sons, the priests, shall when you fart and a little bit comes out against the sides of the jar. That's great. These cards are horrible. They sound great. Oh, I know. The worst one there is Kanye West. I love it. I love all the really distasteful things and then they have to take it a step too far with Kanye.

I know. Well, that wraps it up for this week. We're hopefully going to be recording on Monday with David Viviano, Gamma Atheist, to talk about his show, Atheist Hangouts, and all the amazing guests he's had on there. If you haven't checked out David's show, it's a YouTube show. He's had some great people on. You know, he's had some great people on. He's had on Lawrence Krauss. He's had on No Illusions.

And he's had on, I think, his greatest guest, which is Tom and I. So if you should check out his show, hopefully we'll have David on this week. This will be a bonus show that will be appearing midweek this week coming up. We want to thank everybody for their patience with Tom having to spawn another goddamn human. To be fair, just like the show, I did none of the work. You did nothing. You did nothing. And in the spirit of that, we will leave you as always

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