Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 191: I Declare a Fat-wa

Episode Date: November 20, 2014

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makes it big or makes us mad. It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no welcome at this is episode 191. This is our pre-Skepticon episode. Cecil. It is our pre-Skepticon. We're heading down to Skepticon this Friday for our seven and a half hour drive down there. Then we're going to stay down there until Saturday night, Sunday morning, and then we're

going to drive home. We should only do conferences that are actually in an airport. Like if there's not a conference, why don't they just have conference centers physically attached to the airports? And that way, I think the best thing about that time is that they can just pull those wheel loader forklift things up and they could just unload us off the plane, use the wheel loader to drive us through the airport to the conference, set our giant bloated bodies down,

and then they could pick us up and deliver us. I already have to buy so many seats, the plane's virtually empty when it lands. We have to basically buy 17 and a half seats apiece for Skepticon. And so they could just set us down in the back, I guess, in the back portion of the auditorium, and then afterwards they could just come in, pick us up, and take us directly to the flight, and then we could just go home. I like that.

I want to travel exclusively by forklift. You know, once I get wealthy enough through podcasting, once I get wealthy enough, I think that that's going to be one of the things I spend my vast fortune on, just a fork lift chauffeur. I like pork lift better. I think pork lift is a better way to call it. Pork lift would be amazing too. Actually, you know what? If I had to choose, I think I'd choose the pork lift.

It's like, but sir, you'll have to walk. I know, but there's a pork lift. There's a pork lift. And I don't know what it does, but it's a pork lift. Yeah. It just brings you like a whole roasted pig. It's not pork lift. There's a pork lift. And I don't know what it does, but it's a pork lift. Yeah. It just brings you like a whole roasted pig. It's on a spit and spinning while they're moving it through. That would be wonderful.

It's like you go, it's one of those Brazilian steakhouses, and you flip your thing up, and they just bring you an entire roasted pig on a spit. Where is this place? I want to go right now. Oh my God, that would be the, that would be an amazing shitty theme restaurant. Like where they just drive up to you with a fucking rotating rotisserie fucking pig

and cut at a table side with his face looking at you and everything. My wife would die. I always wanted to have one of those restaurants, but instead of having meat where the different kinds of meat, it would be different kinds of cereal. So you'd sit down and you'd flip over the Lucky Charms one and they would come over with the Lucky Charms

and then a person would come over with the milk and then you'd eat that bowl and then you'd flip over the Cocoa Puffs one and they'd bring the Cocoa Puffs and then you'd see the guy who would walk around with say the count chocula and you would have to turn yours over no no i'm not interested in the chocula right now or the the honeycombs that would be a really great restaurant where you could just eat bowl after bowl after bowl of cereal the only the only thing the only way to improve that concept which is very nearly

perfect would be to hire the fucking snootiest people possible to work in that restaurant so that if you were like, yeah, do you guys have the Crunch Berries with extra Crunch Berries? They could look at you and be like, sir, at our restaurant, the Crunch Berry to Little Hard Yellow Thing ratio is absolutely perfect and it shall not be compromised. You must leave, sir. You must leave. And they're like,

walk out with fucking shame, your tail tucked between your legs. That would be wonderful. And they would have to have a cereal sommelier who would come by and suggest different brands of cereal for you. So you could say, you know, I'm really looking at the whole milk tonight.

And he would say, oh, well, if you're looking at the whole milk, I would, a very full-bodied Captain Crunch is something that you should. This one has a fine snap, crackle, and pop. Are you fond of the roof of your mouth? Because you may not have it at the end of the evening. These are, this is grape nuts. Not only will it keep you quite regular, sir, but it will challenge your dental fillings. Now it is available in both cold and microwaved briefly form. This would be a terrific restaurant.

It would be a perfect restaurant. I would go there in a minute. The point is that we've got to rewrite the federal government. Now, this is not going to happen overnight. It took 130 years to bring us to where we are today. It could probably take 50 years to turn it around. But if we stand on the Constitution, then everything else comes together. This story comes from Mother Jones.

Catholic Church argues it doesn't even have to show up in court because of religious freedom. This is pretty terrific. So there's basically a court case that revolves around a woman who got fired for getting in vitro fertilization. And that's pretty funny, actually. Not funny like ha-ha, but funny like oh no because when she when she first took off work for her in vitro treatments her boss said well you're in my prayers which i guess is code for and i'm gonna fire you she filed a discrimination lawsuit um and the catholic church is not even like they're not even at this point contesting the facts

of the case they're basically saying we don't even have to go to court because of religious freedom we are so religiously free that we won't even attend the hearing yeah I think that they're trying to do something a little special here Tom I think they're trying to set up a defense based on this so that they don't have to go to trials where somebody had, say, diddled a kid. Yeah, right. So you set this up. Then you can say, hey, I don't have to go to court. As you could see from this earlier case, I didn't have to go to court here because it was my religious freedom. I had to go to court here as well. So you might as well try to set up some precedent, I guess. I can't understand how that even gets passed. That's not a thing that is... And it's funny because the people in this article, the lawyers and the

organizations are all saying, what the fuck? I know. Nobody could even make heads or tails out of it. It's so crazy. It's like at some point, like the Pope's just going to like walk out on national TV, like go out like onto that balcony of his and just start dropping babies off it. Be like, I do whatever I want. Nothing you can do. I'm testing baby parachutes. I don't give a fuck. He's got a baby on an umbilical cord.

He's using it like a yo-yo up there. Just flipping it up and down. Walking the dog. He's got one of those little cocktail umbrellas. Oh, it didn't hold him up. Oh, he's testing him like the egg drop. You know, like the science experiment, like the egg drop. That's a bouncy baby.

We run out of more babies that way. You know, it's interesting that they fired her for wanting to be a single mother. I mean, that is why they fired her, because they don't like the idea of her getting in vitro fertilization and being a single mother. I don't know which. I think they're actually more against the in vitro fertilization than they are against the idea of her being a single mother.

But the thing I don't understand about the in vitro fertilization and the reason why they're against it, getting pregnant normally requires some sort of lustful act. And it's not a lustful act when you get fertilized mechanically. It's a thoughtful act. It's a totally different... You know, I mean, I'm sure that there is some foresight into thinking about whether or not you're going to have a baby and those sorts of things. Clearly,

those, those are, there's, there's something to that when couples decide that. And even when single people decide whether or not they're going to have a baby, but in this case, it is only a thoughtful decision. It can't be lustful because it's, unless you get off on having a turkey baster shoved up your vag, you know, or whatever. Hey, so that's your I mean, hey, if that's your thing. But it takes the sin. I mean, it really just takes the sin right out of the act in a lot of ways. I wonder why they're they're not more for this thing.

I just don't like science, I guess. I don't I don't understand the protestation. I don't understand science, I guess. I don't understand the protestation. I don't understand what the problem is. Yeah, you know, they're anti any kind of intervention, whether it's an intervention to produce children or an intervention to, you know, not have kids. So that's, I mean, they don't like contraception, but it's, you know, the only way to do it is by fucking.

Like, that's the Catholic style. Like, it's's you know the only way to do it is by fucking like that's the catholic style like it's you know joyless missionary that's the only way to do it just just fucking weeping and you know lots of crying i'm so sorry that's the only way to get the job done it feels like such a backwards thing to have these mandates that I think were probably put in place long before the church, long before there was any sort of technology. So they put these things in place so people would have large families. It's just a speculation, although it seems like it's probably the truth. I don't know for sure, but it seems that they would put that sort of religious bylaws in there so that there wouldn't be any tampering and that people would have these large families and there would be a bunch more Catholics. There would just be this renewal of younger Catholics over and over and over again. Well, in this case, it seems like it's against what they're really looking for,

because if she goes in for this fertilization, she could be creating more children, which is what they'd want. She may even be having multiples, right? Right, because that's a common thing. I wonder if maybe part of it isn't because in some of the in vitro fertilizations, there's multiple eggs which are inseminated or what have you. I don't know if that's the right term, but you know what I mean. So there's multiple eggs. Fertilized. Yeah, that are fertilized.

Thank you. And then they don't all make it. So maybe they're looking at it as like a weird quasi-abortion thing. Oh, yeah. Maybe that's it, too. That's interesting. I mean, I think the moment you start using science to reproduce, religion just needs to shut the fuck up. Well, the problem is that religion just doesn't know what to do, right? It's like your fucking dad with a VCR.

It's like you give science to religion, and it's like, it just blinks 12. And you're like, okay, all right, no more science for you. Get back to the Stone Ages. You need to come over and fix it. You played with it last and you messed it up. I can't rewind my DVD. Okay, all right, all right. Hand me the remote.

Hand me the remote. It's going to be fine. Yeah, just. What? Sister, it comes from AU News. Yahoo. Oh, news. Turkish teen arrested for burying sister's boyfriend alive. A Turkish man has been arrested, but not just the man, by the way, because dad also helped.

So that's important. This dude was arrested along with his father on suspicion of the murder of some guy who they found buried in a wooded area after having been stabbed, Cecil, 65 times and having severe torture marks, including a hole made by a sharp object. I don't even want to think about that. His lungs, when he was found, were filled with soil, which meant that he had been buried alive. But they had a good reason. It was an honor killing. It was an honor killing. It was an honor killing.

Yeah. And I think this one, you know, I saw this and I wanted specifically to talk about this story because usually the honor killings focus on honor killing women. Women are disproportionately singled out for honor killings. And this was a unique circumstance where the guy who refused to marry the daughter violated the family's honor. And so the family had to stab him 65 times, torture him, and bury him alive in a hole. Yeah, he also missed the hole made by a sharped object. Although it says an autopsy revealed that he had been stabbed 65 times and had a hole made by a large object. And I would say, well, wouldn't he have just been stabbed 66 times?

I know. Why is there a differentiation unless that hole is, I guess, maybe car-sized or something? I saw that, and I actually thought similarly. I thought, like, weren't the stabbings with a sharp object? Yeah, and weren't they holes, too? Weren't the stabbings with a sharp object? Yeah, and weren't they holes too? The 65 stab wounds were clearly made with a blunt pencil eraser.

Like, wait, what? Yeah, the thing about him having his lungs filled with dirt because he was breathing in the dirt and buried alive, I think you're going to wind up getting sued by Martin Scorsese for ripping the end of Casino off there. I was thinking about Casino when I read that. That's horrible. Isn't that? That scene is brutal where he puffs out that dust.

Yeah, that dust. Yeah. Well, that's sort of exactly what's happening here. I wonder, and this is, of course, always speculation when you're trying to figure out the operation of someone else's mind right when you can't you you have no way of knowing whether or not someone was killed here because of an honor killing or because of some other reason there could certainly be some other reason that caused this man and this uh this boy to kill this other young man uh he was having sex with their the man's daughter and the the brother

there the brother the sister of the brother and so there's a there's a possible reason there and that's what they say but there's you know it could be because they just they didn't think that he had a future right if she's going to wind up marrying somebody maybe he doesn't have a future maybe he's not somebody who has uh long-term prospects he's not going to be very successful uh maybe they didn't like his parents and they didn't like that family and they wanted to get rid of him and he wouldn't leave her alone. Who knows the full reasons? But I think at some point, Tom, we have to take their word for it. Why they killed them. We can't always make excuses for this for a group of people who say out loud that they killed somebody because of their religious ideas. Right. And to be very clear, like what a couple of things that strike me about this article that that that tip me off that there's something very severely wrong is the father said he was sorry and regretted the killing, but claimed, quote, it was a matter of honor for us. Okay.

Then the very next line. What the mother... What are you fucking waiting for? Like, you've got a man who's been tortured and murdered in, like, the most horrifying fashion. And you have surveillance footage showing this guy being beaten by the father and the son and then throwing him into a car. Then you have the father saying that he's sorry that he killed him, but here's why I did it. And the police are like, hmm, all that one is a head scratcher. Like, really?

Yeah, it says the suspects have yet to be formally charged. And then it says underneath, Turkey has stepped up efforts to stamp out so-called honor killings in recent years and toughen penalties, but such crimes remain frequent within the conservative Muslim society. While women make up the majority of the victims,

men can also be targeted. So they will, on occasion, occasion i guess toughen some penalties or whatever but if they haven't formally charged them call me a little just just i i feel a little uh that that this isn't completely honest if they're saying that they're toughening they're toughening up these penalties but this guy's yet to be formally charged. Come on. What do you need? Does he got to send it to you in Morse code? He just has to show up covered in the skin of the victim. Does he have to put a graffiti artist, put it on the wall, and put a giant-

He's got a Banksy-esque infection. He's got a Banksy-esque infection. Give me a break. Yeah, he's got a Banksy-esque affection. Give me a break. Yeah, man. You know, the whole, like, the whole honor society, the whole, like, the whole, like, you know, any culture that has, like, and I read a paper about this once or an article. I don't know what I fucking read. I read a thing. You know, really discussed, like, how cultures that have that whole honor system, you know, the American South is part of that.

The Muslim conservative societies are like that. They're all uniformly more violent because your honor, you couldn't insult my honor because I don't even know what that means to me. You could insult me personally, but I don't have this fucking thing that exists outside of me, which is like my family's honor and dignity. You upset my fucking's honor and dignity. You know, you upset my fucking, you know, Harold or something. What does it even mean? It's fucking garbage. It's nonsense. This is really most often a way for people to take revenge for sex crimes, like what

they see as crimes of sexual transgression. These are revenge killings is what they are. Now, let's go on. He says, I want women to adorn themselves with proper clothing. That tells me that there is clothing that's improper for a Christian woman. All right? I mean, that's just logic. There is clothing that is improper for a Christian woman.

is improper for a Christian woman. Now he says the clothing must be modest, modest. This is very important. It's literally proper clothing with modesty is the way it goes in the original text. So with modesty. My wife has a really good thing that she says. She goes, if your clothing is a frame for your face from which the glory of God is to shine, it's proper. If it draws attention to your face. If your clothing draws attention to your body to outline it, to make it noticed, then it's sensual. It's sensual.

What you're doing is wrong. This story comes from the Friendly Atheist. If you had premarital sex, this Baptist pastor and college president believes you're a filthy dishrag. College president? College president, my friend. You evidently can be a college president and an unbelievably horrible person. He is, however, president of the West Coast Baptist College. Yeah.

Which. I don't know if they're accredited. Yeah, I know. Like, you know, like, if I met somebody and they're accredited. Yeah, I know. If I met somebody and they're like, yeah, I'm a college president, and then they're like, of the West Coast Baptist College, it's like, oh, great, I went to Upstairs Medical College. You know what I mean?

I don't care. It's not really terribly prestigious. I say that, but I don't have any idea about West Coast Baptist College. Do you want to hear what he has to say? It's great. The stuff he has to say is like two minutes long. It's really good. Let's hear it. One wonders, whatever happened to purity?

Whatever happened to that? Whatever happened to the days when girls said, I'm not going to be touched by every guy. I'm not going to walk down the aisle like a filthy dishrag on my wedding day. Whatever happened to that day? I speak no ill against someone who's had difficulty and sin in their past, but from this day forward, it's not wrong when a couple hundred teenagers got up here a few weeks ago and made a purity pledge. That's a wonderful thing. Titus 1 15, under the pure, all things are pure now you listen very carefully that pure mom and dad out there when those kids are up here you know what they're saying that's

great praise the lord because to the pure all things are pure what does that even mean no to the pure all things are pure yeah i'm so pure that like fucking garbage is pure like fucking fetid nasty rock garbage juice garbage juice garbage juice you just you put it you actually just just put it in a shot glass and do shooters of it just shooters of garbage shooters of garbage juice because it's completely pure because that's how pure I am I actually so my son is seven I don't think he's had sex yet I could be wrong yeah but I don't think so yeah had sex yet. I could be wrong, but I don't think so. So I feed him exclusively rotten meat because it's cheaper. But since he's pure, the meat turns pure when it touches his face.

He's very sick, by the way. What the fuck does that even mean? I don't want to do the pure. Everything's pure. Everything. You filthy dishrag. That's why you don't understand, you filthy fucking dishrag. But unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure,

but even their mind and conscience is defiled. I don't want to sound weird tonight. Too late, buddy. I don't want to sound weird, but here's some weird shit I've been saying. There's some weirdness. There's a reason when ladies come up here to sing that the rule, if you want to use it, the standard, call it, I don't care what you call it,

call it legalism, call it control. I don't care what you call it. There is a standard in this church that the dresses are going to come down to the knee when a lady stands up here. I've been here long enough now, you can call me every name you want to call me. I mean, just fill my name in the blank.

They call me old-fashioned. It's okay. Say, why, Pastor? I've counseled too many men to know that if we don't have everything covered just right, they're not going to be thinking about wonderful grace of Jesus. Some of you men want to help me with this tonight? I don't know about you, Tom, but I'm a

rape machine. I just can't help myself. I actually have no ability to control my thoughts and feelings. Sure. I can't. I mean, can you? Well, I'm just a man. How could I possibly control what I think and feel? Every time I see a woman's, like, fucking

shin, I just start stroking my dick in public. I can't help it, dude. I can't. Can you? Tell you what, it's hard to go to the beach. I don't even wear pants because I know I'm just taking them off. Sure. You're just gonna wank it the whole day. I'm just gonna, I just walk around. I actually, I'm so

fucking turned on, I just preemptively masturbate all the time. Just constantly. Because the thing is that at this point, Cecil, it's not just seeing a woman, it's the thought of seeing a woman. And if that doesn't do it for me, it's the thought of the thought of seeing

a woman. And then it's fucking just... You're kind of jerked six ways from Sunday there. Like yesterday, I went out to get the mail and there was a catalog and there was like a fucking woman on the catalog. I said, fuck my mailbox. I didn't feel like I had a choice. And the mailbox didn't feel it either, though, to be honest with you.

I mean, it's a big hole they put that mail in. I'll tell you something. We're just trying to keep the focus on him. I get so sick and tired of going to weddings and it's already got a dude. What the fuck? He hates women so much. Here's some Jezebel strutting around? Well, if she wears something scantily clad at a wedding, who cares? The bride's already got her guy.

Why would she care what you're dressed like? Because he's just a fucking judgmental asshat. That's clearly why he cares, because he's just fucking attracted to women. He's out fucking mailboxes. Tell you what, Jezebel. Jezebel, dishrag! You go to a funeral and unsaved women do the exact same thing. You come to the house of God,

it ought not to be a flesh show. It ought to be a place where Jesus is lifted high and his holiness is remembered. Great. Yeah, that's it. That's enough of that. That's it. God, is he so mad, man? It really is just, it's amazing. We talked about it last week.

We talked about that putting sex up on a pedestal and making it seem like it's such a reverential act that you wind up with people who do some crazy shit because of it. And this is, I think, a runoff of that. I think this is exactly the sort of thing that people do and the positions that they take because they think that sex is more than it actually is. You notice that all of the concentration is on what women are wearing. Yeah, right. None of the concentration. Like, are women not attracted to men? Did I miss a memo? Like, do women not do not have any visual attraction center whatsoever can men wear

whatever like what if like what if what if women like what if there was a woman in the audience she's like i really like men in suits and i go to church and i'm surrounded by fucking men in suits i love chubby bald men in suits right that's what i'm i'm just i love it it's just like she's fucking rubbing one out in the fucking pew. And she's like, hey, you didn't say anything specifically to me. No kidding. I thought that was cool. Look, if you guys didn't want me to fucking rub one out, you men shouldn't have worn that suit.

Yeah. You know? I like the way it frames your shoulders. What can I say? I just got to, you know, take care of business. I got to diddle my button back here. What the hell's wrong with you? What kind of crazy fucking lopsided shit is this?

What the hell's wrong with you? What kind of crazy fucking lopsided shit is this? I was doing some reading because if you're unfamiliar with how this show is put together, Tom will find the stories. He posts them on a Google Doc and then I will do some reading and he'll read the same stories and then we talk about them. We normally don't talk about them beforehand, but we talk about them right now. This is what you hear is our discussion of stories. We normally don't do a lot of pre-work beforehand, but we do do some work

beforehand where we actually read them and maybe take a few notes or pay attention to what people say. And so I had listened to this guy's piece earlier. And when I'm reading these things, sometimes the TV will be on in the other room and so I try to listen to music while I'm doing it so I'm not distracted by the television or something like that and so I was listening and I listen to classical music because that's the one non-lyric music

and allows me to pay attention to the story and not pay attention to the music it really sort of flows in the background and I I have to say while I was listening to his piece and listening to classic music i couldn't help but chuckle so i wanted you to hear tom his piece set to a little bit of classical music

one wonders whatever happened to purity whatever happened to Pyrrhic? Whatever happened to that? Whatever happened to the days when girls said, I'm not going to be touched by every guy. I'm not going to walk down the aisle like a filthy dishrag on my wedding day. All right, you get the idea. The music seems to really make fun of him. Want to contact the guys? Go to DissonancePod.com to get links to their Google Plus, Facebook, and Twitter accounts. If you want to contact them directly, send an email to

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We want to send a big heartfelt glory hole to all the patrons and people who rate us. You fucking rock. This story comes from PRI. How to avoid closing your school for Muslim holidays? And the Christian and Jewish ones, too. I love this story so there's a public school in montgomery county maryland and the muslim community in montgomery county maryland has been asking the school board to recognize their religious holidays because clearly

you know my school district and many others they recognize christmas and easter and you know uh i don't know fucking name a jewish holiday i don't know, fucking name a Jewish holiday. I don't know. Passover, whatever. Passover, sure. So, you know, at least they put them on the calendars. Some of them are days off. Good Friday is often a day off.

And the Muslim community wanted to have their days recognized, too. And it's so funny because clearly the school board felt so backed into a corner and they fucking pulled a fucking deus ex machina they rubbed themselves into a corner oh god what do we do cancel it all and run it's awesome

they wound up taking all those holidays off but they still have those holidays off for some of them so they took them off the calendar? They have them off now because of low attendance. Like, no one's going to show up on Christmas. Yeah. That's why we have Christmas.

It's not because of the birth of Jesus. That's ridiculous, Muslims. It's just coincidentally a day where no one's going to show up for school. Don't quote me on this, but. I think the same is true of Good Friday. Yeah. Also on your holidays, we will all show up to school. It's such a fuck you.

And it's like, it's so obvious. Like these fucking people that are constantly screaming about religious freedom. I can't have religious freedom. i don't have enough religious freedom like they're constantly fucking barking that shit but they don't really mean it they don't want religious freedom they want religious exceptionalism i think that they could easily fix this if they stop giving kids summers off and just started giving out religious holidays throughout the year, whether they're Muslim or not, whatever religious holidays, all the fucking religious holidays. They just don't have to go to, they just have to go to school during the summer as well,

because then you would have plenty of time to give those children off, especially around those really important times. Although I don't know, and I'm sure someone knows, but I don't know whether or not it's based on the lunar calendar. Some holidays, because clearly Good Friday is based on the lunar calendar. It's not based on the solar calendar. I had no idea. Yeah, no, Good Friday shifts every year.

It's based on 40 days or something after a certain full moon or some weird shit like that. Are you kidding? No, I'm not kidding at all. I had no idea. This is the first time I heard that. I had literally no idea. I just thought it was a day. I thought it was like the third Friday of the thing or whatever.

No, it's based on the lunar calendar. I'm going to read it. Hold on. Just give me a second. I'll find it. I had no idea. This is actually quite interesting. Easter can fall between March 22nd and April 25th.

Since the Jewish holiday calendar is based on solar and lunar cycles, each feast day is movable with dates shifting from year to year. Easter is always celebrated on the Sunday immediately following the first full moon after the spring equinox. I'm going to try to repeat that so you don't laugh. Easter is always celebrated on the Sunday immediately following the first full moon after the spring equinox. Why would anybody pay attention to this shit? I can't even believe that.

Fucking say it out loud. I know. Say that shit out loud. Oh, when's Easter? Oh, it's after fucking the moon. Who cares? Right. Who cares?

I can't even think about that shit. That shit is so far removed from an actual reality where shit is real. The first full moon after. Who cares about the fuck? What are we going to turn into fucking werewolves next? Ridiculous. That's why you eat all that lamb. Right?

That's why. Because we're all wolves. Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest. Allah is the greatest. Cecil, I have very sad news for you. Yeah? You're not going to be able to join ISIS, my friend.

I know. I know. I know. I've been doing all that nothing for you. I know. I know. You've been out. This been i i it's not this is not my decision okay so don't blame me for this i know you've been out doing your beheading

practice i have running around shouting all akbar in places of right where it's totally inappropriate i've been holding my uh ak-47 over my head and screaming Allah Akbar all week. Firing randomly into the air. Absolutely. Both for jubilation and terror. I've been commandeering old-timey military weapons from different places. I'm ready, Tom. I know that you're ready. Put me in, coach.

You know what? Put me in. I want to tell you, though, you're not the only one. My application to join ISIS was also rejected, as was the Aussie jihadists from this particular news story, who were deemed too fat to fight. Two of the four brothers. That's my other favorite part. Two of them are like, told you you were fat, Jim. I told you you were fat, Jim. Did you see how fat they were, though?

They're like pushing three bills, man. Oh, yeah, dude. It said that they were 140 kilos or something, and that's pretty big. Yeah, that's a sizable individual. So ISIS evidently has like a no fat chicks policy. Too bad it wasn't a fat girl. You could call her Fatima, right? That's awesome.

Well, one of these guys' names is Muhammad, right? No, I got to pronounce it better. Muhammad. Nicely No, I got to pronounce it better. Muhammad. Nicely done, my friend. That's awesome. They won't be allowed to fight. Here they're just like, send them out. You know, I got to think, though, that you probably can't come up with a more effective diet plan than running around in the fucking desert.

than running around in the fucking desert. I think they would drop a significant amount of weight or dead of a heart attack. One of the two. Are they still allowed to declare fatwas, though? Oh, yeah. Nicely done. One of them's name, another name that I think would be great for one of these guys is Muhammad Aioli. I think that would be a good one.

I would think they would want these guys over there. You know, after a while, like, they're just sweating pure olive oil. Yeah. It's just fucking convenient to have them around. The whole platoon behind him is slipping as they're running. I don't know what to do. The old-timey tanks don't. They can't.

They got to get through that porthole. It's like two guys trying to jam them in with a stick. It's like an old Popeye cartoon where Pluto's trying to get in there, and Popeye's pushing him and is bulbing out like that. Yeah. You got to butter up the sides of it to try to squeeze him in. Then once he's in, he's fucking in. Once he's in, he's never coming out.

It's a fucking, it's a human sardine can at this point. He's essentially filled out the whole area in there. This is awesome. They couldn't find, they probably couldn't find a uniform to fit him either. I mean, there's, camouflage only works so well, right? At some point, you're like, look, it's not an extra mountain, all right? I fucking see you. It's like me playing hide-and-seek with my son.

I don't own anything big enough to hide behind anymore. You ever play hide-and-seek as a grown-up? No. Not with nieces or nephews or anything? I don't talk to those people. It's so hard to hide a whole grown-ass man. There's no place in your house that hides you. When you're a 60-pound little kid who's 36 inches tall,

they can fucking hide everywhere. I'll look around and be like, a 60-pound, like, little kid who's, like, 36 inches tall, like, they can fucking hide everywhere. They're like, I'll look around and be like, where the fuck is my kid? They'll be, like, in the cabinets. They can fold themselves in half. Right, in an old refrigerator, in the garage, not breathing. You know what I mean? There's, like, so many places for them to hide. Like, me, where am I going to fucking hide? I can't even hide in my car.

Yeah. Where am I going to fucking hide? I can't even hide in my car. Yeah. I think if you had one of these guys, though, in the camouflage, you could, maybe he can't hide, but certainly the guys behind him can. Yeah, no kidding. You would think they'd want this guy as like a human shield, a giant meatball they could roll down the road and they could just hide behind him. What I know, like, our troops had a difficult time finding enough armor for the Humvees for a while.

So, I mean, this could... We could kill two birds with one stone, I'm just saying. Tie a couple of big guys to one of these things. I speak as a big guy, so I feel like, you know, they could roll in front, you know, to set off the landmines, and if they go off, you're just basically a super ball of human flesh

bouncing in the air. You'd be fine. You'd be just fine. Oh, man. I think it's great. They send these kids home based on this. The mother didn't want any of them to go, if you read the article. The mother is not interested.

Although, in stark contrast to the other mother who was very happy would be very happy if her 13 year old son did kill himself oh god that story was it last week or the week before that was horrible right so in stark contrast to that this mother of course from sydney is not interested in that thought her kids won a trip a free trip to thailand or something and they left and then they did go to thailand but then they jumped a train or not a and they left, and then they did go to Thailand, but then they jumped a train, or not a train, they jumped a plane to, I think, Turkey and then went into Syria. But she's not happy.

She didn't want them there, but I guess she's probably pretty happy she stuffed the fuck out of them when they were growing up. Right? She gets back and, like, how shame-faced would you be? Because two of the brothers, okay shame-faced would you be? Because two of the brothers, okay, two of the other brothers?

Yeah. They have to come back like fucking tail and fucking Twinkies tucked between their legs, just shame-facedly eating their way back home. Mouthful of tagine, you know?

All right. I'm so sad. I just have to eat this whole chicken pot pie. Abortions for all. Very well. No abortions for anyone. Abortions for some miniature american flags for others so this story comes from thinkprogress.org el salvador's total abortion ban is driving pregnant teens to commit suicide fucking this is sad um so el salvador has uh one of the most restrictive

abortion bans in the world um and so one of the leading causes of suicide is teen pregnancy yeah uh which is so incredibly sad like there's just no way to be like, I don't even know where you go with this. It's it's it's unbelievable that like these are women who like have no fucking options. And where does this abortion ban come from? Like, this is a fucking El Salvador. I mean, it's clearly like this is a religious edict. And these kids are not only pregnant kids killing themselves because they can't get help, but they're also sex abuse victims. That's the thing that is really appalling is that they wind up being sex abuse victims. So they're clearly fucked up from that. And then they're having a child and then they wind up uh they wind up killing themselves because they have nowhere to go they they they have to raise a child that they didn't want because they were abuse victims uh none of this is good none of this is helpful none of this what you want is is the exact opposite right you're saying you're pro-life you're saying

we're so pro-life we're going to ban abortions but if people are killing themselves how pro-life, you're saying we're so pro-life we're going to ban abortions. But if people are killing themselves, how pro-life can you be? How pro-life can you call yourself when people are killing themselves because they don't want the children that are going to be produced? So El Salvador has the highest rate of teen pregnancy in Latin America. So clearly you don't have a handle on that. Like you just, you have not licked that problem. It's not like a rarity of teen girls are getting pregnant. It's the highest rate of teen pregnancy. Plus you have an abortion ban, and these girls are seen as outcasts in their conservative Catholic communities. That's a quote from the article.

And then they get kicked out of the house. They get dumped by their boyfriends, expelled from the school. So none of that is a recipe for building a just society. I think that's kind of how you have to look at this shit. You have to look and say, are the things that we're doing, are they maximally designed for building a just society? Is this going to yield the highest number of the outcomes that we want, right? And the outcomes that I think everybody can agree on do not include teen, unmarried teen pregnancy, women who are getting raped and don't have access to procedures so they can have an abortion.

We're living in a world where these strict Catholic principles don't apply. They don't work. They don't translate into 2014 in a meaningful way. These are thousands of year-old edicts. If they ever worked, and I'm doubtful that they ever did, but if they ever worked, they simply don't apply here. There's a fucking translation error. It's like a fucking, it doesn't work anymore. And El Salvador is like, it's like a case example of the failure of 2000,000-year-old moral principles in a modern society. I want to read a little bit about their code for the abortion law. It says on April 20th,

I'm reading directly from Wikipedia here, it says on April 20th, 1998, they changed the law. And under this code, a person who performs an abortion with the woman's consent or with the woman who self-induces or consents to someone else inducing her abortion can be imprisoned for two to eight years. A person who performs an abortion to which the woman has not consented can be sentenced to four to ten years in jail. If a person is a physician, pharmacist, or healthcare worker, he or she is instead subject to 6 to 12 years. It says that there are abortion methods in El Salvador, but of course they are all illegal. So here's what happens.

I'm reading again. This is from Abortion Methods in El Salvador from Wikipedia. It says, Women seeking abortions use a variety of methods, clothes hangers, metal rods, high doses of contraceptives, fertilizers, gastrous remedies, soapy water, and caustic fluids such as battery acid. It says the most common are pills and catheters to inject soapy water or caustic liquids, rods of any type of material to penetrate the uterus, injections of unknown solutions,

or a combination of abortion methods. Using pills and catheters and injection rods can kill a woman or injure her permanently. So that's what women are resorting to. That's what happens when you ban abortion. When you ban abortion, women don't just stop getting abortions. They just do it in horribly, awful, completely backwards ways that are not safe for anyone involved. That's what happens.

And sometimes if they can't do that sort of thing, they kill themselves. So really nobody here can claim that they're pro-life because they're not trying to help anyone in this situation. All they care about is a tiny lump of cells inside of a woman that has not turned into a child yet. That's demonic, everybody. It is absolutely demonic.

This fucking story. What the fuck? This is from News Channel 4, K4.com. Evil in Oklahoma. Exorcisms on the rise. Awesome. Thanks, Oklahoma. Oklahoma City.

Exorcisms in Oklahoma City are up, Cecil. Yeah. It's kind of a big deal. There's snake skins wrapped around pulpits. There's fucking Bibles stabbed with knives. It's fucking chaos, man. It is chaos. I mean, Pastor Kelly Tiger, and I didn't just make that name up.

This is what he says when the devil showed up to his church. Yeah. I don't know why the devil would swing by church. I don't know. I thought he was on his way to Georgia. He had a fiddle to steal or something. He had a fiddle to do a thing with. He says there was a snake skin wrapped around the pulpit.

Our pulpit Bible was stabbed to the knife. You can see the holes. On this wall beneath the picture, they had wrote, God hates us. With the graffiti and what was done, someone had to know something about devil worshiping. Or, or, they're fucking with you, Kelly Tiger. You know, what he should do is show him what he can do. Or he should. Because that will really bring out the tiger in you.

Show him he's a tiger. I watch this. And when I watch it, there's this great moment where a guy for no reason just blows through a ram horn. It's like. Did he yell Ruffola? Oh, it's wonderful oh it's oh it's wonderful it's really great uh i i wonder how this gets play on the news but then i think well don't they show uh the long island medium and all these other people who clearly talk about god and those people who run around and scare themselves shitless in all the abandoned houses. And they talk about casting things out with God. So exorcism is constantly on our

television now. So it's not a big stretch to see it on the news because there is 25 different ghost shows where they all do the same thing, which is exercise the ghost using the Christian method of reading the Bible, throwing some holy water around and trying to get rid of the ghost that way. Yeah. I mean, you're right, man. It's just like this is the sort of like credulous dipshit reporting, though, that just like exacerbates the problem because there is a certain segment of people who will see that something was on the news and they'll give it credence because of the

location of the story right they'll be like oh it's on the fucking news exorcisms man man you see what's on the news and that's all they need right because there's like they see the news as this sort of grand i already vetted it an authority figure. And they don't realize that, I mean, it's just stories, man. The stories on the news are just there for advertising dollars. They don't exist to educate the public. The news is just a product that is sold to people, and they think that they're getting an educational product. They're not getting an educational product.

Crazily, from the article, this is so funny. This Sybil Day, all the names in this story are crazy. Yeah, they are. Super crazy. So Sybil, which is kind of great if you've read the book Sybil. So Sybil Day brought her devilish five-year-old grandson to this church of fucking lunatics after repeated unexplained outbursts. This is my favorite line.

I said, you've tried everything else. Let's try Jesus. And so we did. So awesome. That's so awesome. That's how you treat a five-year-old with repeated unexplained outbursts.

You know, it's either that or with fucking medical attention. Well, they said that they tried to give him pills, Tom, and that didn't work. Well, I mean, then you've got to try Jesus. There's no follow-up to that to see if it worked. Well, no, the lady said it worked. Oh, she did? Oh, yeah, she said, oh, yeah, they read the Bible to him and he's fine now. And it was a miracle from God.

I see that. Successfully transformed from darkness to light. Yeah, he hasn't gotten in any trouble at school. Probably because he didn't want to be fucking exercised anymore. Fucking ridiculous. That's like a scared straight program, you know? But it's like they just fucking yell at you and fucking shake water and shit at you. It's fucking voodoo magic shit.

How is this different than fucking Santa Ria or whatever? Yeah, no, it's not. And I also think that sometimes these are very dangerous when they hold people down. And there's been people who've been injured and hurt and killed because they've been held down during the exorcism and things like that. Tied down, that sort of thing. It's dangerous. These people aren't, they don't know what they're doing. It's interesting that they don't take a stand, clearly, on this, if you watch this news report.

They don't take a stand at all. They don't say, well, these are happening. They just got a few people to talk, and they're not making any claims. These people are making claims and now we can go to commercial because you stuck around after the sports to see this thing so now we can go to commercial and show you the kia commercial that we we somebody paid a lot of money for you want answers i think i'm entitled you want answers i want the truth you can't handle the truth. I'm getting to the point where I'm like, I'm a little, Glenn Beck is not doing good. He's just really not doing well.

He's said as much. The reason I wanted to talk about this story is not because it's super, super crazy, although it's really, really crazy. It's also because there are still people out there who listen to Glenn Beck. There are people out there. He's got a huge audience of people and he's not well. And he's just making shit up at this point. This is right out of the

scripted network. This is right out of the scripted network. Cecil, it's perfectly what it is. It is exactly it. He came out with a show where he was actively crazy. He was mad as hell and he wasn't going to what it is. It is exactly it. He came out with a show where he was actively crazy. He was mad as hell and he wasn't going to take it anymore. And now he's changed his tune. They fired him from his network.

He's on a smaller network now. And he's still ultra crazy. I'm going to play this short clip. Now what he's referring to when he's talking about this revolutionaries. I watched the clip that he's referring to. These people who wanted to protest the FCC chairman because of his net neutrality wishy-washiness, they wound up sitting behind his car. He very friendly came over, had a conversation with them.

They told him that what they thought. He told him what they thought. They went back and forth. They held up a banner so somebody could view it. He asked them very nicely if he could leave. They said, no, we're going to block your car. And then they talked for a little longer. Nobody got mad.

Nobody threw a punch. There was never anybody. The guy had a smile on his face the whole time. He was not even really that worried. It's not like he's going to get fired from his job for being late. And he lives in a beautiful place with a gorgeous car. You know what I mean? This guy is not, he doesn't care.

And these people are sort of impotently pushing at him in some way that's never going to be resolved in a real way. So he just lets them do it. He could have easily called the police and had them removed, but he didn't. He just decided to have this happen. And I don't think it's that big a deal. But Beck freaks the fuck out about it because he thinks that this is the next step. These people that are protesting him and not letting him leave by sitting behind his car in peaceful protest are going to be doing some crazy stuff.

And this is what he has to say. I am begging America to listen to me. Please listen to me. You are dealing with revolutionaries. I don't know who these people are, but you are dealing with revolutionaries. Revolutionaries. I don't know who these people are, but you are dealing with revolutionaries. Revolutionaries will come, and they will pull you out of your car and shoot you.

They will pull you out of your office, your bank. Wait, they clearly peacefully protested behind his car. They didn't do anything. But they will. They just don do anything. But they will. They just don't, so they won't. I love this. That's the only problem. Revolutionaries are going to shoot you.

That's awesome. They will pull you out of your plush political office. They will pull you out of your anchor chair. They will pull you out of your anchor chair. They will pull you out of wherever you are. When they decide revolution is here and you've betrayed the revolution. It's not enough. Wait a minute. I'm up, but I'm on your side.

It's not enough. It's not enough. This is a harbinger. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up. They're playing by different rules. They're not playing by all the rules that you think they are. Wake up.

Please, dear God, wake up before it's too late. What? What would you do with that information? Like, even, let's say I even believe that. I know, I know. I know. What would you do with it? Like, oh, great. So wake up.

Hmm. Already awake. So not sure what step two is here. The act of being a it's you're fucking a million percent right, Tom. The act of being a revolutionary means that you are operating outside of the standard norms. You're already operating outside of that stuff. So whether or not you wake up doesn't change the fact that you're going to be made an example of by revolutionaries in Glenn Beck's weird fantasy land.

Yeah, you know what he sounds like? It sounds like he's warning us of the French Revolution. Like, I'm not even really kidding. Like sounds like he's warning us of the French Revolution. Like, I'm not even really kidding. Like, I think he's worried about the French Revolution. Like, all of a sudden, like, there's just going to be fucking, you know, mass beheadings in the fucking public square or something. What do you think is going to happen? They're going to eat a lot of cake, Tom.

That's what's going to happen. I guess that is step one. Never mind. I understand my role now. I've been, since I've been a child, been looking forward to another French Revolution just so I could eat a bunch of cake. So I could eat the fuck out of as much cake as I possibly can and then get rejected by the Syrian army. Those were both my plans. Yeah.

The beheadings are just kind of like an aside. It's the pastries you sign up for. See, I think I'm ready for the beheadings because I've been cutting cakes for years. You got to give – the thing is, during Easter, which coincidentally we have off, unlike the Muslims. So during Easter, I always make a lamb cake, and I cut the head off of that. Yeah, me too. And then I eat the whole head. A little strawberry sauce underneath it.

Yeah, it looks great. Then I eat the body. I think Glenn Beck, what is he saying? He's just saying that people are going to be revolutionaries because they want net neutrality. That's the other thing of all the topics. I know.

Net neutrality? The world's on fire. It's World War III. Why? I couldn't fap to Pornhub at high enough speeds. High enough speeds. I got throttled. I was trying to throttle myself, and then I got throttled.

The net neutrality thing's been blowing up this week. It's so funny that people are comparing it to Obamacare. I don't know if you saw that. I did. I didn't understand. Somebody said, like, net neutrality is like the Obamacare of the internet. I'm just like, whoa, that's a fucking SAT level analogy because I can't get there. I know.

Headphones are like the Obamacare of audio wait fucking wait what why i don't know why that's true tell me why i don't understand at all obamacare is like not neutrality as glenn beck is to sandy oh totally unrelated. Yeah, exactly. Well, that wraps it up for our pre-Skepticon show. We're hoping we're going to record a show at Skepticon.

We'll see what happens there. If not, it's going to be in the car on the way home. It's not going to be as good. They'll never

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people know where we're at so we can go get drinks, hang out, chill. We'll be the two fellas with our own gravitational pull. Yeah. We're going to be the two guys with our own gravitational pull. Yeah. We're the two guys with the giant rejected stamps from the Syrian army. I also want to mention, too, before we go, that we will

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Tom, before we skip out, there was no natural transition for this, so I wanted to read it anyway. We don't really read the bad reviews that we get on iTunes and make fun of people, but I'm not going to read the bad one, even though it is a bad one very recently. I am going to read a good one because I really thought it was very good and I just want to give it some props this is from Alameda Mark Tom and Cecil are two regular guys from

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Whatever happened to that? Whatever happened to the days when girls said, I'm not going to be touched by every guy. I'm not going to walk down the aisle like a filthy dishrag on my wedding day. Whatever happened to that day? I speak no ill against someone who's had difficulty and sin in their past, but from this day forward, it's not wrong when a couple hundred teenagers got up here a few weeks ago and made a purity pledge. That's a wonderful thing. Titus 1 15, unto the pure all things are pure. Now

you listen very carefully. That pure mom and dad out there when those kids are up here you know what they're saying that's great praise the Lord because to the pure all things are pure but unto them that are defiled

and unbelieving is nothing pure but even their mind and conscience is defiled I don't want to sound weird tonight there's a reason when ladies come up here to sing that the rule, if you want to use it, the standard, call it, I don't care what you call it, call it legalism, call it control. I don't care what you call it. There is a standard in this church that the dresses are going to come down to the knee when a lady stands up here. I've been here long enough now. You can call me every name you want to call me. I mean

just just fill my name in the blank. They call me old-fashioned. It's okay. Say why pastor? I've counseled too many men to know that if we don't have everything covered just right they're not going to be thinking about wonderful grace of Jesus. Some of you men want to help me with this tonight? We're just trying to keep the focus on Him. I get so sick and tired of going to weddings and it's the bride's day and here's some Jezebel with hardly any clothes on strutting around the wedding. Look it, you come to a wedding around here, show some respect to the bride. You go to a funeral and there are unsaved women who do the exact

same thing. You come to the house of God, it ought not to be a flesh show. It ought to be a place where Jesus is lifted high and His holiness is remembered. You know, Pastor Chapel, you know, here in California, this kind of message is just whoop. It doesn't matter

where you live, the Bible's the same, folks.