Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 325: The First 100 Days

Episode Date: November 14, 2016

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode is brought to you by BarkBox.com. For a free extra month of BarkBox, visit BarkBox.com slash CogDisc when you subscribe to a six or a 12-month plan. Yo, this is Phil from Los Angeles, and I just figured out David Smalley's superpower. He's a kick. Hey, what's up, Tom in Cecil my name's Anthony I've been listening to you guys probably since May and I just want to say
Starting point is 00:00:28 how much I love your show and how much it cheers me up but uh Cecil your dirty dirty whore mouth jinxed us all in an orange menace
Starting point is 00:00:36 god damn it I'm all serious let's come together and try to get through the next four years bye guys hi my name is Zoe and I'm from London in England.
Starting point is 00:00:48 And I stumbled across your podcast when I was living in South Korea, of all places, and just desperately needed something to drown out the noises that I just couldn't understand. And I have to say that all the terrible stuff that's going on in your country as well as mine, in 2016, it has been an incredible relief to have your podcast to cheer me up and just make me laugh at the world in a way that other programs have failed to do. So keep up the good work. Glory Hole from London. Dear America, from the bottom of my Canadian heart, go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 00:01:33 I am sitting here with my headphones on, listening to a Cognitive Dissonance episode, 324, where Tom is discussing the NSA and how he finds it absolutely unbelievable that there's possibly someone out there sitting with their headphones on listening to your every episode. Well, sir, I will have you know, there is. As you were, carry on. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. Recording live from Glory Hole Studios in Chicago,
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Starting point is 00:03:10 not actually free 50 this is episode 325 of cognitive dissonance yeah well it happened it happened i've never recorded post-apocalyptic before. So, uh, Tom, before we get into this, now this, this episode, we're going to cover the first hundred days he has planned. Yes. So he posted this plan, uh, sent it out, set it in a speech and it was transcribed. We were getting this, this information from NPR. It's a quote direct from him. Right. So we're getting this information from NPR, but you can get it anywhere. And it's his first hundred days in office, what he plans to do. Now, we're going to go over it step by step, but we want to talk a little bit about our reactions and sort of how we, what we're doing right now, what we're thinking about a Trump presidency,
Starting point is 00:03:56 because no matter what I was, I think probably the most pessimistic of anybody I've talked to about this for sure. And now we're going to go with pragmatic and realistic. I was the most pessimistic of anybody I've talked to about this. For sure. And now we're going to go with pragmatic and realistic. Well, I was the most pessimistic about a Hillary win and a Trump loss. I thought I was not ready to count them out even up until the end. But I am still shocked, right? So even with my pessimism, I am still shocked that it actually came to pass. So I know that both of us at the end of the night, we both felt a little drained and a little bit angry. I think both of us were a little angry.
Starting point is 00:04:33 And I want to sort of relate a little somewhat of a story. I compete, right? So when I compete, I fence and I compete. If I'm ever beaten, like really badly, especially if I'm really badly beaten, I save that memory, right? I put that, I file that shit away. And what I do is every time I work out, every time I don't want to go to fencing practice, every time I don't want to do drills, every time I don't want to get up in the morning to go for a run, every time I don't want to go to a fencing meet because I'm like, ah, you know, maybe I'll skip it and, you know, stay at home and play video games. I think of that moment when I lost. I think of that moment and I say, you know what, this isn't going to happen again. And I motivate myself using that moment of defeat. I really hope that the people
Starting point is 00:05:22 on our side do the same thing. They utilize that moment of defeat, the feeling that fucking bile taste in your mouth when you know he's going to be your leader. When you know it's not just him, but it's a red Congress and Senate. And it's fucking – it's so worse. I mean you listen to everybody who's complaining about this at this point. He's a terrible human being, at least has been. I mean, he's portrayed himself as a terrible human being for several years. But what I want people to do is use this as a way to empower themselves.
Starting point is 00:05:58 So here's what you can do. I put together a tiny list of stuff that you can do now and you can do for the next two years. Because two years, there's going to be a midterm election. We can flip the House and Senate in that. You can do it. It can be done. It's possible. It has to be done. Let's change that. It has to be done. It has to obstruct this shit. It has got to happen. It is not an option for this not to happen. So here's what I have. Empower real journalists, okay? This is the other part of our democracy, right? Our democracy is held in checks and balances by the power. But there's another power out there, and that's the journalists. The only way that we can keep checks on them is to have a ton of people in the private sector watching the government.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And journalism needs monetary support to survive because for a long time, it has not had monetary support. I've been closing papers down like crazy. They're firing journalists like mad because right now, news is free. So that means if it costs subscribing to The Atlantic to get this done or subscribing to Rolling Stone to get this done, these people need paychecks to go out and do this work,
Starting point is 00:07:05 this investigative journalism that we need to have done, especially when it comes to Trump, because he's already saying he's not gonna let people into his inner circle. He's not gonna, he's gonna banish journalists from a lot of his stuff. He knows he wants to do secret shit. We can't let him do it.
Starting point is 00:07:20 We've gotta help empower those journalists. That's a great point, yep. Donate time and money to disenfranchised groups. We're talking about teach English as a second language or pay, help. If you don't have time, give money for that. Teach recently released prisoners tech skills, fucking how to use Internet Explorer. There's charities out there that do this or give money for that. Volunteer at women's shelters or give money for it. Volunteer at homeless shelters.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Volunteer for advocacy groups, ACLU, Secular Student Alliance, American Atheists. Those places are going to protect us against the things that he's going to do. One of the posts that I posted this week was a post about – specifically about fucking – one of the atheist groups is saying I'm fucking – we're going to fight you. We're going to fight you when it comes to education. If they fucking – if they go after and start feeding bullshit to the fucking public schools, we're going after you.
Starting point is 00:08:20 And that's what we need to empower. We need to empower both by donating time and money. And this also means to a party that you like, whether it's Green Party or whatever. We're talking about local government, regular government. You've got to get involved now. And that means contacting your representatives if you want action. Who cares if you live in a red state? They have to listen to you. Andrew Torres had a great point. He was like, those people will talk to you. And he's like, and they like stories more than they like than they want to argue about something that is not concrete. So if you come in and say, and this is I'm quoting, I'm sort of I'm not quoting, but I'm certainly drawing from what Andrew said.
Starting point is 00:08:54 He said, look, go in, talk to your guy, your representative and say, look, I'm going to lose my medication if they cut out this preexisting condition thing. I'm going to lose it. I could die. this preexisting condition thing. I'm going to lose it. I could die. You need to help me. You know what I mean? It doesn't matter if they're red or blue or whatever. They're going to listen to you because it's a story. It's a real person.
Starting point is 00:09:14 And there's a lot of real people that can reach out. These people are supposed to meet with you. They're supposed to talk to you. I was somebody who said, you know, sending letters is better than email. Calling is better than sending letters. Going to visit them is better than calling them on the phone. So there's, you know, there's a hierarchy that you can follow, but go visit your representative. If we protest and we should keep it nonviolent, one fucking asshole that throws rocks or that punches somebody
Starting point is 00:09:40 ruins it for the whole fucking thing. I'm so fucking, youlutely. You get one guy out there who flips a fucking, who starts flipping a car over, and a bunch of fucking other morons help him flip the fucking car over, and it fucking basically makes it so that thousands of people, peaceful protesters are delegitimized, okay? Thousands of people.
Starting point is 00:09:57 And it's up to us to police ourselves when it comes to this. You see some asshole throwing rocks, you fucking stop him from throwing rocks. You say, fucking dipshit, don't do that. Don't fucking be violent. Don't be vandals. Peacefully protest.
Starting point is 00:10:11 You delegitimize the protest. These people think that they can write you off just because some one guy got punched in the head or something. Stop the violence. Stop it. It's not gonna fix anything. What we need to do is be peaceful.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Tons of people on the street the other day stopped traffic. I don't find that a violent act, okay? So I know that there'll be people who argument with me on that. Fucking, I don't agree with you. But I watched peaceful protests in Chicago. I was watching Fox News. They were peaceful protests. They walked up the southbound side.
Starting point is 00:10:41 They walked northbound on the southbound lanes of Lakeshore Drive, and they stop traffic. And you know what? I know somebody who went to those protests, and he called me right afterwards, and he said, Cecil, you should have saw it. Half the people that were there got out of their cars and were high-fiving people, honking their horns. So all this bullshit about, oh, you're stopping traffic, and that's dangerous. There's a bunch of people that are in that group that are high-fiving and excited to be part of that protest that they weren't going to be part of. And you add, when you do that, every time they honk a horn, they're adding to the protest, right? They're not walking with you, but they're there in solidarity. Yeah, absolutely. And so it's important that we're not violent,
Starting point is 00:11:19 but stopping traffic is, again, that's how you protest. And I don't want to hear like, that's not how you – that's bullshit. You don't just stand in your designated area. You take over the streets. That's what you do. But being physically violent is a wrong thing to do, and I think that we need to police ourselves and say, no, there won't be any violence here. And now I know I saw the other day the people in New York had Trump on a noose. They had an effigy of Trump.
Starting point is 00:11:44 None of that. None of that. None of that. I will say – I don't like that. That shit is – it's quasi-violent. Right. I will say that I don't think that burning something in effigy or having something on a noose is as bad. I think that there is definitely a difference between having Trump on a noose and having Barack Obama on a noose.
Starting point is 00:12:02 One has a racial overtone. One has a racial history of 200 years of slavery and fucking lynchings. And one, how many fucking billionaires are on nooses? You know what I mean? There's no fucking history there. So I don't want to hear that it's the exact same thing. Right. But I think that, you know, we can be funny.
Starting point is 00:12:20 We can be clever. We can be angry. But we shouldn't be violent. and that's something that i think we need to we need to push against vote fucking vote get out there and vote every single time don't just come out when it's the big boys club when it's the presidential election vote in the midterms vote for your local government vote every single time and get involved regional local national doesn't matter get involved in those elections if elections if it's something that you're passionate about. You know, our government is shit in Illinois.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Our government is garbage. Fucking that Rauner is a fucking douchebag idiot who has no idea what he's doing. He's just a rich guy like Trump who's fucking, he's like, fucking, I'm taking my hands off the wheel. It doesn't matter. He's going to drive this fucking state into the ground. We need to make sure that he gets stopped this next election. We need to be empowered to do that. And then finally, my suggestion would be vote with your dollar.
Starting point is 00:13:12 It's going to be harder, I think, as time goes on to try to figure out which companies really don't deserve your money. But we need to pay attention if people are really sort of sidling up with this administration. We need to stop. And that can be uncomfortable, right? That can be an uncomfortable position to be in because you're like, fucking, I really wanted a new iPhone. Well, maybe you won't get one, you know? And that's okay. We need to make ourselves uncomfortable in order to show them that they should feel uncomfortable. So that's my list of plans of attack. And I think that you can use that fire, that bile of that night to push you.
Starting point is 00:13:47 If you don't want to go out there and donate your time or money this weekend, you start thinking about, well, how did that feel when that fucking asshole won? Oh, maybe I should go out and help these disenfranchised groups because they don't have any help. They don't have anybody out there that's going to do it. And they're increasingly not going to. The government is going to keep on dropping that off. So we've got to be there to pick that slack up. You know, Cecil, I think that's an awesome list. I think that's going to do it. And they're increasingly not going to. The government's going to keep on dropping that off. So we've got to be there to pick that slack up. You know, Cecil, I think that's an awesome list. I think that's an awesome list.
Starting point is 00:14:09 And that's a hell of a lot better than what I've put together. I put together a reaction that I'm going to read in just a second. I want to comment on one of the things that you said, because it just strikes me, and I like it very much. You know, if the Republicans get their way, and they will, right, there will no longer be a government
Starting point is 00:14:26 social safety net yeah okay i mean we just have to deal with it right i can't wish it back into place nothing wishing you know wishing is not a plan hope is not a strategy right so fucking throw that shit away be the safety net right now it's our obligation you've got a few extra dollars every month go be the safety net modest needs your Yeah. They need your help more than ever. Exactly. We have an obligation to be the safety net for the disenfranchised because as a as a government, we've just said we're not doing it. That's that's a big part of what we all are. We all just fucking made a great big agreement and shook our fucking hands and said, vote red. Goodbye, social safety net. So if that's something that does not appeal to you, if that's something that you bemoan and mourn, then your obligation is to be one of the wires in the safety net.
Starting point is 00:15:09 I think we can do it. I think we have to do it now. If we don't do it and we're just fucking piss and moan about it, then you're basically lying. You're just lying. You're saying, I care, but I don't care enough to do anything or to spend anything. If you don't have anything to spend, give time.
Starting point is 00:15:22 If you don't have time, give money. If you don't have either one, then fucking get on don't have time give money if you don't have either one then fucking get on the phone then get on the phone it do something if you don't have either one then you probably need you probably are part of the safety you probably you probably need that safety right that's true that's true if you don't have either one you're probably looking for help yeah and hopefully someone who does have one or the other is going to give you what what they have right i also want to say though really quickly i want to jump in there There's one more point, and I've seen this all over Facebook,
Starting point is 00:15:47 so I almost feel like I shouldn't really be, I shouldn't be re-mentioning because everybody's been saying it, but stop bullying when you see it. And this is important. If you see somebody being bullied, if you see someone being pushed around because people feel empowered at this juncture in our time
Starting point is 00:16:04 to push people around, stand up for them. It's our job to stand up for them, right? You know, we disagree with that. Well, I'm not going to let somebody, you know, he's talking about, you know, a fucking religious test to come in the country, a list for all Muslims, a fucking registry list. You know what? If somebody is going to fucking attack somebody for wearing a hij, in, in, in, I see it. Yeah. It's game on. I'm going to stop and make sure that they know that they can't do that. And, and I think it's up to all of us to, if we see that sort of thing, to stop it, to try to stand up just like we police ourselves. We got to make sure that they don't do
Starting point is 00:16:39 the wrong things too. Yeah. You know, this, that, that's a good point. And that gets back to something we've talked about before, which is that I do think that as somebody who wants positive social change in the world, you have to allow no quarter in your life, no quarter in your professional life, in your personal life. There should be no safe place for bullies, for racists, for misogynists, for bigots. We empower these people when we don't say anything back. We just sit and smile. When we all just say, oh, well, he dropped the N-word at the fucking barbecue and I didn't say anything back because it was weird and I didn't want to make a scene. Make a scene. Make a fucking scene. It is an obligation. It's
Starting point is 00:17:19 more important than it's ever been to make a scene, to put yourself in an uncomfortable role. You know, this idea of being non-confrontational, it doesn't work with bullies, right? The bully is confrontational. We cannot be non-confrontational in return. Violence is not the answer, I agree with you, but violence has to be stopped. You can't, you're not going to solve violence by standing around wishing it wasn't happening. For sure. But on a more practical and probably more frequent level, again, you provide no quarter for these people in your life. They don't get, you know, you don't employ racists, misogynists, homophobes, xenophobes. You don't employ them. You just don't.
Starting point is 00:17:57 You don't give them a space in your social gatherings, in your social circles. Make them outcasts. Make them have no place to go in your life. That's the only thing you get to control, right, is your life and who you allow in it and who you allow in your circle. So, Tom, why don't you read your piece? All right. It's not when you're as practical as yours, but this was my response. So I'm doing something that I never do, and that's write my thoughts for this show.
Starting point is 00:18:23 I'm doing this because I actually don't trust myself to speak well enough extemporaneously about this. I know I made a really big deal, both on this show and in my real life, about how impossible it was that Trump was going to be elected. I did so in the typically comical, buffoonish manner that I do when I'm going for laughs and effect, and I played the clown, and I told everyone I'd eat my hat and suck a dick or whatever if Trump got elected. And up until late in the evening on election night, I was still playing the clown because I felt so confident that there was no way, literally no actual way, that America had enough small-minded, angry, bitter, racist anti-intellectuals to make this happen. In the middle of recording that night, I actually texted a reassurance to someone that this would all be okay. And I meant it. I meant it because
Starting point is 00:19:11 I believed that America was far, far better than a Trump presidency. A thought that now feels hopelessly naive and which I'm still having a hard time banishing from my worldview. For all of my put upon anger and my yelling, I am very much an optimist at heart. I always have been. I frequently have to be told by my friends and loved ones when someone is behaving badly behind the scenes because my inclination, an inclination that I have aggressively resisted changing, is to trust that people, by and large, mean well. And I find myself reflecting on this election and what it means not just for policies that will affect the people that I love, but on what this election
Starting point is 00:19:50 says about us as a country. What does this reflect back at us about who we are? And just as much, I find this election personally unsettling in that I'm forced to re-examine some of my most deeply held beliefs about the general goodness, fairness, and kindness of the people that I pass in the street. The morning after the election, I was on the phone with someone I care deeply about, and she told me about putting her boy on the bus that morning, and she cried. I want to be very clear here before I move on. I want to emphasize something, lest you think this is all just sour grapes, because personally, I'm going to be just fine, right? I'm a late 30s, upper middle class, heterosexual white male. Yeah, you're going to be great.
Starting point is 00:20:34 The world is and was literally built for me by other wealthy white men. But my friend's boy, who she put on the bus the morning after a racist was elected to the highest political office in arguably the world, is a beautiful, kind, intelligent, mixed-race boy. And the new leader of his country thinks he is less than his lighter-skinned counterparts. And I wonder, how does he and his family internalize and reconcile themselves, not only to Trump himself, but to the evidence around them that they are surrounded by people who, to be the most charitable, do not find racism vile enough to be disqualifying. This is repugnant. And when this attitude was revealed again and again throughout the election cycle, this should have relegated Trump to the dustbin of racist history. That this not only did not happen, but that this may have helped to propel him to power,
Starting point is 00:21:26 this should shock our conscience. And it didn't. It didn't for enough of us. And what this says about us and about our conscience unsettles and disgusts and scares me. This is a man who is openly and obviously misogynist. Think about being misogynist for a moment. It's 2016. We just elected a man who refers to women routinely and on stage with clear disdain. And he's talking when he does that about half of the population. This is not a minority group. This is half the population. I keep thinking we can't possibly have done this, elected a man who sends this message to our daughters, that they live in a world that elected a leader who finds them repellent for the fact of their gender. Make no mistake, though, we did this. This is what we did. who are not repulsed enough by these attitudes to reject immediately the kind of small-minded, insecure assholes who espouse these beliefs. And Trump is openly anti-intellectual.
Starting point is 00:22:33 He's been the president-elect for two days as I wrote this, and he's already talking about appointing a climate change skeptic to his cabinet. Again, what really upsets me here is not so much the terrifying dystopian nightmare that is a Trump presidency, but that enough of our population values rationality and evidence so little, if at all. Rationality, evidence, a commitment to the well-being of others, a recognition of the shared humanity of people. of the shared humanity of people, these are the values that simply must be demanded in us and then reflected in our choice of leaders if we're going to have any hope at all of dealing with the issues that face us. Instead, we actually chose
Starting point is 00:23:15 a belligerent, ill-tempered, racist, misogynist, xenophobic, billionaire game show host. That's what we just did with no experience and no respect for the intellect. That was our choice. And I think we did it just because he was angry too. How pathetic is that, Cecil?
Starting point is 00:23:36 That we love our anger so much that we voted for a man whose primary talent for the job is to throw a national temper tantrum. The kind that we seem so hell-bent on having, despite all costs. And I know I throw, usually, a big shitty fit over all the little things, and I promise that I will get back to being the clown, but I want it for just a moment to be real. I don't actually think Trump is funny. I don't think this is funny. I think it reflects
Starting point is 00:24:02 back at us the worst parts of who we are. And I admit to being truly and genuinely unsettled at how many of us not only still nurture these kinds of deep and profound character defects, but that there are so many people proud enough of those faults to want to see them amplified. Shame on us for that. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. So before we move on from that, I want to read the top 10 things about a Trump presidency. All right. I got a glass half full.
Starting point is 00:24:31 All right, bring it home, buddy. Glass half full. I think the audience right now is like, everybody tie a fucking sad ribbon to our tails. Everybody tie a sad ribbon around your neck and step off the stool. Oh, God. All right.
Starting point is 00:24:45 So 10. 10. Top things. All right. Number 10. Possibly a reformed Democratic National Party. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:54 I mean, there's a chance we could have some real reform there, one that doesn't include shitty emails behind the scene that alienate a candidate. You know what I mean? Yeah. And hopefully the leader of this and the way in which this falls out, the DNC looks a little better and grows and gets stronger from this. Number nine, a 69-year-old is taking the toughest job on earth. He's going to be the oldest sitting president ever.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Oh, I like this. Ever. After one year in office, he's going to look like Pizza the Hut. That's number nine. The first lady's cause is going to be childhood obesity because she's going to copy everything from Michelle. She's also going to do
Starting point is 00:25:36 a turn up for what video? I want to see that. I want to see that. Yeah. In broken English. Because she's an immigrant. All right. Number seven. He's going to's an immigrant. All right. So number seven. He's going to deport his wife? Number seven. Fence sitters are going to be motivated by racism, sexism, environmentalism, and anti-immigration stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:55 People that are sort of in the center. If this stuff comes to pass, and here's the thing. I'm actually hoping that it doesn't, right? I'm hoping that he's gotten into office and we're going to talk about this. When we get to his first hundred days, we're not sure he's going to go there. Right. But if he does,
Starting point is 00:26:12 he's going to motivate a much larger base than I think he recognizes. He's going to motivate people against him. He's going to motivate not just us, but the people who thought maybe he wasn't going to go there or the people who voted, you know what I mean? Like there's going to be, yeah,
Starting point is 00:26:29 there's going to, or the people who voted for him in the sense that they thought he was going to do one thing and then he winds up doing another thing. There's a very good possibility that he could not do the things that he promised to do like get rid of all the money in Washington, get rid of all the lobbyists. You know all the stuff that he's sort of been – these anti-government stuff that he's been doing and still do all the horrible shit that you were willing to put up with along to get rid of sort of to get an outsider in. He could just become another insider and then do all the horrible shit. You were like, well, maybe I'll be okay with that as long as he fucking fixes Washington, right? Right, yeah. Maybe he's going to fuck you in the ass and do whatever the fuck he wants. And if he does, he's going to motivate a lot of people. That's number seven.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Number six, saying thanks, Trump, for everything that gets to go wrong at this point, right? We get that for the next four years. That's true. That's exciting. That's nice. Number five, the private sector is going to be picking up slack where the government fails.
Starting point is 00:27:20 And when we finally have somebody that's worth a shit in the government, that's going to be, that's actually good and motivated to do the public – to turn the public on, the public works onto this. Can you imagine what a united public and a private sector are going to do? Like, for example, take environmentalism, right? He's going to be anti-environmentalism. We're going to be doing everything we can in the private sector to try to combat this awful shit that's down, that's coming down the road, right? A secretary of the, of the interior of Sarah Palin, who's drill baby drill, you know, a release of, you know, shale and all that, all that gas, and then drilling off seas. But if we
Starting point is 00:27:58 get enough private sector people to start fighting it, once the public sector starts coming back around because Trump's gone and other people are gone. Maybe now it's a huge snowball effect. Maybe there's a unified effect, right? Yeah. Number four,
Starting point is 00:28:13 live tweeting the state of the union address. Oh, it's going to be great. So great. You don't know how great it's going to be. Number three, never, ever,
Starting point is 00:28:21 ever having to hear which style is better. Chicago is Barack Obama. New York style is Trump. So we fucking won that war. That's our war. I never want to hear that again. Chicago style, one million percent better. There's never an argument.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Number two, uniting huge groups of people. I believe the front's huge. Women. Yeah. In general. There's going to be a million women march right after his inauguration. They've already started planning it. And I'm going to keep my eye on this and let people know when it's happening.
Starting point is 00:28:57 I think my wife's going to go. We're talking about, you know, maybe they're going to round up to the nearest million like Ellen DeGeneres says. Who knows? But I guarantee there's enough angry women in this country to go there, travel to Washington, D.C., and walk around for a day and be very, very, you know, to be angry and be present. And that will happen. And the number one thing of a Trump presidency, Tom. I'm waiting. I'm waiting. The 46th
Starting point is 00:29:25 president of the United States, Elizabeth fucking Warren. Oh, yes. Right? That could happen. That could. That could happen. That is dick-hardeningly awesome. Absolutely. That would be spectacular. So that's the top 10 things about a Trump presidency. Some of them funny. Some of them very true, though.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Yeah, no, I think there's a grain of truth in all of them. Particularly the Chicago style. Yeah, fucking A. So Cec No, I think there's a grain of truth in all of them. Yeah. Particularly the Chicago style. Yeah. Fucking A. So Cecil, I've got a dog. I got a little shitty little rescue dog that I love very much. He's about a 25-pound little bundle of anxiety. A little Fergus.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Wee little Fergus. It's a little Fergus. Oh, Chase. Yes. Chase Fergus. Oh, you know. And so the folks at BarkBox, they sent us, like, I got a BarkBox package. And I got to tell you, like, it's kind of great.
Starting point is 00:30:08 It's honestly kind of great. Because, like, they're all themed and they're fucking cute. And they come with treats. Raw Heinz, he got, like, a little ball thing that's in an avocado because it's like a California dreaming type of thing. It's like a ball in an avocado thrower. You know, like, the kids love it. You know, all the treats are, like, these all-natural treats. type of thing. It's like a ball and an avocado thrower. It's adorable. The kids love it. All the treats are like these all-natural treats and everything it says is
Starting point is 00:30:29 made in the United States, all that kind of good stuff. United States or Canada. It's a fun little box and it's a box that's packed full of shit. It's more shit than I ever normally give my dog. If you are the kind of person that goes out and buys treats and buys toys for your dog, it's really like this unique themed fun little package for your furry friend.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I liked it. I liked it quite a lot. And Burgess liked it. And that's really what counts. It's like Christmas every month. That just comes in a box. Yeah. It's dog Christmas.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Dog Christmas every month. Dog Christmas. For a free extra month of BarkBox, visit BarkBox.com slash CogDisc when you subscribe to a six or a 12-month plan. All right, so the first 100 days, we're going to take a look at each one of these pieces. I'm going to read each one, and then we're going to talk about each one, Tom. So let me get to the first one here. The first one is, propose a constitutional amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress? I am going to say something that makes me feel weird and parts of me. I'm 100% down with this.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I've been, I've yelled because it's the only way that I know how to speak. I have yelled about term limits to almost anybody who's foolish enough to engage me in a political conversation. I believe in term limits. I think we should have them. I don't know what that answer is. I don't know exactly how it looks like. We talked about it on election night. I believe in term limits. I think we should have them. I don't know what that answer is. I don't know exactly how it looks like. We talked about it on election night. I believe in term limits if he could get that done, which he simply will not be able to get this accomplished. And here's why he was not going to get it done is because it requires an amendment, because it's already been ruled on by the Supreme Court. So it requires an amendment that's three quarters, that's a three-quarter ratification or 38 out of 50 states. You've got to convince that's a three quarter ratification or 38 out of 50 States.
Starting point is 00:32:08 You've got to convince three quarters of the senators and to vote against their own best interest, vote against their best interest. It's never going to happen. It's never, ever, ever, ever going to happen. You have a better chance of getting,
Starting point is 00:32:15 getting into the oval orifice of Sarah Palin. I think then actually I've seen that video. I'll tell you what, those two guys, they might not have been able to see Russia, but they had a good view. So so that's the first thing. Again, I think that we're going to go through this and there's going to be several times where I say I like this. And there are some pieces. Even a blind dog gets lucky. I may be misinformed on some of it, and I welcome any kind of corrections on this particular episode. Agreed. Because I may be uninformed when it comes to why I agree with it.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Yeah. I think that there will be things that I think I'll agree with because they're written in a way that – his proposals are written in a way that encourages agreement. Let's be honest. Sure, absolutely. I think all things based on this election cycle require that. Right. So there may be things behind the scenes that I'm missing. Yeah. And I welcome some feedback on that.
Starting point is 00:33:09 So second is a hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition. And he's exempting military public safety and public health. But I don't know if he's saying public safety and homeland security, if that's what he means, only that department, or if he means like any job in public safety or any job in public health, or is he just talking about the U.S. public health service? Is that all he's talking about? You know, I don't know. You don't know because it's not clear. And it's not clear, I think, because it's Weasley. Yeah. Right. Because if I use words like safety and health, I can say, okay, well, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:33:45 defund the EPA, then something shitty happens, and then I'm going to, not defund, but I'm going to hiring freeze the EPA, for example. Then something shitty happens, and he can say, oh, it's now a public health and safety crisis, and I can redo it. There's so many things that when you use big, broad terms like health and safety, you can fit almost anything into that rubric, right? I mean, it's as gaping as fucking Sarah Palin's asshole. You can fit almost anything in there. There's almost nothing you can't cram in there with enough lube. You don't need anything. Actually, you don't even need lube.
Starting point is 00:34:11 When you start to put it in, though, you do have to have the backup warning sound, though, where you're like, boop, boop, boop. All right, so one thing I will say, though, about this is that he's supposedly doing this to fight corruption. Not. it is not framed as a money saver it's not framed as a money saving measure specifically for this which is good
Starting point is 00:34:32 because it would be a meaningless line absolutely it's meaningless it's meaningless and i'm not sure how this fights corruption i'm actually unclear i mean other than like you know cronyism is he suggesting that this is uh well he's i think he's talking about the emails where she – where specifically Hillary was giving out jobs and things and appointments based on how much people donated. And he wants to stop that. So there's a hiring freeze. So it's not like you gave a million dollars to my campaign. I just made you the fucking mayor of Cheeseland or whatever. But I see something like that, and a hiring freeze sounds like a good idea, but there are so many times where you want to accomplish something, you need a person to do the work.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Right, right. And a hiring freeze is such a blanket solution. The problem I have with it is it's a nuclear bomb for a surgical strike. It's just silly. And we're talking about federal employees. That covers a lot of ground here. So I'm just going to read off several different departments. And these are huge departments with several subgroups underneath them.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Department of Agriculture, Department of Commerce, Department of Defense, Department of Education, Department of Energy, Department of Health and Human Services, Department of Homeland Security, United States Department of Housing and Urban Development, Department of the Interior, Department of Justice, Department of Labor, Department of the State, Department of Transportation, Department of the Treasury, Department of Veterans Affairs. And then also you have independent agencies like the EPA, NASA, FCC, FTC. There's tons of federal jobs. And we're cutting out. We're having a hiring freeze on it all.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Have you ever been a part of a hiring freeze in an organization that's worked out? Yes, yes. And are they ever the most effective way to run that organization? Because I have been part of hiring freezes, and they are on a departmental level. They're somewhat disastrous because they're agreed to at a very high level. And we say, OK, we're going to do this hiring freeze across the board. And that sounds great because maybe things are down across the board, but on an individual basis across large organizations, it can really damage your ability to perform necessary actions
Starting point is 00:36:37 because not everything is moving at the same level, at the same speed, at the same trajectory. Hiring freezes are broad are they're broad solutions that don't address microscopic problems. And I don't agree with them in general. I think they're stupid. All right. So third is a requirement that every new federal regulation to existing regulations must be eliminated. Well, what it is, is it's a small government move. It's like making him look like it's small government. And he has said 70% of regulations can go. He's been quoted as saying that.
Starting point is 00:37:07 So that means that – and we're talking about governmental regulations. This can be from anything from regulations on food, regulations on – I mean we're talking about things as simple as that to regulations in banking, regulation. I mean we're talking about government regulations. These cover tons of different areas. But here's why this is, I think this is just a show. All this is, this is a dick pic. It doesn't mean anything. It's not going to attract anyone, right?
Starting point is 00:37:35 Sure. Because, you know, if I am in, the first thing that would occur to me is I would say, okay, guys, we have a regulation we want to propose. I'm going to turn to my staffers. I'm going to say, get me every, we have a regulation we want to propose. I'm going to turn to my staffers. I'm going to say, get me every bullshit, outmoded regulation that no longer even refers to something the government
Starting point is 00:37:49 does anymore. And I'd start repealing, like, I want my regulation to do A. And I would repeal the regulation about horse and buggy whips. Yeah, buggy whips and fucking anal sex on Sundays. Right. And so there's going to be a fucking gazillion of those things that are unenforced and meaningless. And those will get eliminated.
Starting point is 00:38:07 There will be no actual change, right? This is a show. This is not actually anything that means anything. So fourth, a five-year ban on White House and congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service. Great. You know, the current ban is one year, okay? And this stems, again, from the WikiLeaks emails that came out. But however, I just want to point out that several leaders on Trump's transition team
Starting point is 00:38:34 are former lobbyists. And this is according to the Washington Post. So there's several of them are former lobbyists. So we're not sure whether or not this is actually going to go through. If these people are the people that are in his ear, this may get wiped out in his first hundred days. We'll see if this actually goes to, I don't personally, when I see this, I think that sounds like a good idea. I don't want to see somebody who just worked for the White House becoming a lobbyist because they know a ton of people. They have that connection. You're in and it's like, all right,
Starting point is 00:39:02 next year when you get out of government, I got a nice cushy CEO job over at lobby.org. Exactly, right? Fuck all that. I don't hate this. I don't hate this at all. I think money in politics, just like term limits, I think money in politics is a real fucking problem. All right. So this is, again, leaning to the same thing.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Fifth, a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government. And this is, again, for the WikiLeaks emails. It doesn't bother me. I don't think lobbying on... Maybe somebody can tell me why that's bad, but for me, as an outsider, I'm like, yeah, okay, that sounds fine. I don't dislike that. It doesn't bother me. And then again, number six, a
Starting point is 00:39:39 complete ban on foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections. Again, this seems like a good idea. However, that's sort of interesting now that we're getting stories that Trump has contacts between Russia and Trump pre-election. Right. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:39:56 So come on, buddy. On one hand, he's like, oh, you can't raise money, but you certainly can employ ways in which to dig into things and whatnot. It's sort of like, get your hand off my dick, because there's another hand already on my dick. Get your hand off my dick because somebody's watching, but it's okay to do it in secret. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:12 So this is now shifting away from his first set, and this is going to the second set. He says, on the same day, I will begin taking the following seven actions to protect American workers. Now, these are all focused on the American workers. He says, first, I will announce my intention to renegotiate NAFTA. So now NAFTA, what it is, I just want to explain it really quickly. What it was was an agreement between the three nations that are in North America, right? So, well, the three major nations that are in North America. The ones that count. The ones that are not tiny. The ones that are not the tiny little... I'm joking.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Yeah, but it's true, right? It's Canada, the United States, and Mexico. It's mainly those three. Basically, there was a ton of tariffs back then. Tariffs between trading. And they cut all that shit out. They said, no, we're going to phase them out. And they started phasing them out. They also established a health and
Starting point is 00:41:03 safety and industrial standards based on, you know, so we can have trade between the two. There's also side agreements on moving jobs to Mexico and their side agreements on pollution. There's expanded telecommunications trade, reduced clothing trade barriers, more trade in agriculture, increased investment opportunities, increased intellectual property rights, increased investment opportunities, increased intellectual property rights, and expanded contract bidding that all came with NAFTA. So all that stuff's wrapped up in NAFTA. And so that's where he wants to renegotiate NAFTA. Now, one of the things that happened right away was the president or prime minister of Canada
Starting point is 00:41:42 immediately said, I'm willing to talk to Trump. If he wants to renegotiate, let's renegotiate. So immediately someone was already ready to renegotiate. Um, but right now we have zero duties on our trade with Canada and Mexico. And I don't know how you get a better deal than that. Are they going to give us some money? You don't get a better deal than zero duties. Like, I don't, I don't understand what, what exactly is he hoping to get out of it? Well, I think what he's hoping to get is tariffs from Mexico. I think that's what he's hoping to get. I think, I think his, you know, I just, I did a little reading about this and I, and I, I will say that what I, what I focused my attention on is what do economists think?
Starting point is 00:42:20 Yeah. If this were, and I didn't read it so much as a renegotiation, cause that's Weasley. Like what, what he has said is he wants to eliminate it, you know, what renegotiate or eliminate. Yeah. If this were and I didn't read it so much as a renegotiation because that's Weasley. Like what what he has said is he wants to eliminate it. You know what? Renegotiate or eliminate. Yeah. But he says here clearly he says renegotiate. Yeah. But then I think he also says or eliminate. Right. I think he says, yeah, or withdraw from the deal. So and a lot of his stump speech, a lot of his stump speaking was saying NAFTA is the worst thing we've done. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So economists, by and large, are not in favor of this. Economists, one of the problems is with renegotiating or eliminating something like NAFTA is it's already here. It allows for
Starting point is 00:42:57 free trade between these countries. Again, I know this is a pretty controversial. NAFTA was controversial when it was passed. It remains controversial now. If you were, however, to repeal or withdraw from NAFTA, most economists agree that this would cause a tremendous downturn in the economy. This would not have a positive effect on economic futures. So I don't think that's good for the American worker. And are you going to go back to where we were when we first started? The reason why we got into the deal was because we had benefits. There was benefits to getting into this deal. You don't make this fucking negotiation if you're not getting something out of it.
Starting point is 00:43:38 You're not the strongest trading partner out of the three, which we are. The biggest money player out of the three in negotiation, you don't negotiate something that's bad for your economic best interests. That's not what NAFTA was. The argument is that it shifts jobs to Mexico, right? And then Mexico imports goods into the United States, and when they import those goods, they're not paying tariffs on that importation of goods, and so it encourages people
Starting point is 00:44:02 to move jobs and manufacturing into Mexico. And there's an argument to be made about that.. And there's an argument to be made about that. There's an argument to be made about that. But things are always more complex. And it's just like the giving of entitlements. When you build trade agreements and then you wipe those trade agreements out, it's much easier to put in place than to pull it back down and expect all those moving pieces to continue to fire. You know, what happens now when, okay, great, now Mexico stops paying, or Mexico's going to have to pay tariffs, for example, but they've already moved their manufacturing plants
Starting point is 00:44:32 for Ford, for example, into Mexico. So now I'm a consumer and I'm going to buy a car and I'm going to buy a Ford, and that Ford is more expensive. So you know what I'm not going to do? Buy a fucking Ford. Because Ford's not going to be like, oh, we just made less money today.
Starting point is 00:44:44 They're going to pass that fucking cost onto the goddamn consumer. It's not like they're not going to pass that off. So now what I'm going to do is I'm going to buy a goddamn Honda instead of the Ford. And so Ford loses money. And so the workers that support that whole industry, you see it trickles. It's dominoes. It's more complicated than just like, well, you got to pay some money in a tariff. It's a lot more complicated than that because trade and economics is an interwoven system. Yeah. And again, here's the next piece. Second, I will announce our withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
Starting point is 00:45:12 This is the TPP that everybody's been complaining about. And a little background, it involves 12 countries, the U.S., Japan, Malaysia, Vietnam, Singapore, Brunei, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Mexico, Chile, and Peru. It's basically there to deepen economic ties between these nations, slashing tariffs and fostering trade to boost growth. And the member countries are sort of hoping to foster closer relationships on economic policies and regulation. And the agreement would sort of create a new single market, something like the EU. And he just wants to pull right out of it. There's been some groundwork that's been laid on this by President Obama, but
Starting point is 00:45:50 it's never going to get past anything before they get in, so nothing's going to happen. This is not going to happen. Essentially, it's just not going to happen. As soon as, on Tuesday night, you knew TPP was dead. It's dead. So it's a non-issue. The idea that it's in here is like, well, he said this before he got elected.
Starting point is 00:46:05 You know what I mean? Yeah, fair enough. So third, I will direct my secretary of treasury to label China a currency manipulator and the Chinese chiropractors as spine manipulators, I think. They're going to change all their feng shui of their money. So I want to read a quote I got from foreignpolicy.org. All right. If the Treasury finds that manipulation is taking place, the law requires them to take action to initiate negotiations for the purpose of ensuring that such countries regularly and promptly adjust the rate of exchange. promptly adjust the rate of exchange. As a number of experts have pointed out, the United States and China already are in negotiations over China's exchange rate, so it's not clear what a label
Starting point is 00:46:49 would actually change. Well, I think that it is clear what a label would actually change. It would appease people who are angry at China. That's all this is. This is another dick pic, right? Like, it's all show, no action. Yeah, yeah. So, Fourth, I will direct the secretary of commerce and U.S. trade representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact the American worker and direct them to use every tool in the American and international law to end those abuses immediately. And this basically is like, I will fix problems. I know, right? Okay, thanks, bye. Number five, make it great again. So great. Like, what does that mean? It doesn't mean anything. It's like, what asshole isn't gonna do this? This is like when you're in a meeting
Starting point is 00:47:36 and somebody's like, okay, I'm gonna take these action items and we'll regroup next week. It's like, nothing you said means anything! You didn't say anything! Nothing you said means anything! didn't say anything nothing you said means anything fuck you for not saying it all right so fifth i will lift the restrictions on production of 50 trillion dollars worth of job producing american energy reserves including shale oil natural gas and clean coal great so in other words goodbye goodbye, climate. Well, we're basically going to cover bears in oil.
Starting point is 00:48:06 This is a – I know. Like fucking just hose them down. It's like fucking making it rain on the bears. If you're just like dumping barrels of crude on them. We're going to inject our kids with asthma now. That's basically what we're going to do. Oh, I thought you liked greasy turtles. Yeah, it's basically the same fucking thing. That's a throwback, buddy.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Same fucking thing. Holy cow. That's a Billy God right there. Holy cow. All right, so this is from Think Progress. Open up federal lands for unfettered coal extraction, support offshore oil drilling, and generally move away from any kind of international climate cooperation cooperation is basically what this means okay terrifying the thing is is he's saying this is job producing okay so it's a politic fact to find out you know whether or not this is job producing
Starting point is 00:48:54 it's the pipeline that had been had it been constructed this is a pipeline this is i think the keystone pipeline had it been constructed would have only resulted in 50 permanent long-term jobs the rest of the jobs created by the pipeline would have been temporary construction jobs lasting only four to eight months of the of the pipeline's effect on the larger economy the washington post said the impact is barely a ripple and that's one of the things that people don't understand is that you know it's it's the reason why you know the tar sands fluctuate back and forth, right? If the energy isn't cheap enough to get, then there's no use in getting it, right? We always go for the fucking – we are looking for the lowest hanging fruit when it comes to energy.
Starting point is 00:49:37 And we're constantly shifting that position. I think that's the part that people sometimes – and I don't mean to interrupt you. I'm sorry. But I think that's the part that people sometimes – and I don't mean to interrupt you. I'm sorry. But I think that's the part that people sometimes fail to consider is that there are so many sources for fossil fuels globally now, right? And we're going to do whatever is cheapest today. We will literally make changes. The energy industry pivots very, very quickly in terms of where it's willing to buy its bulk resources from. So we're willing to pivot and do tar sands if that's cheaper today.
Starting point is 00:50:06 But if tomorrow Saudi Arabia or OPEC opens up their production, then we're just going to buy it from them and not buy it from the tar sands. And we make those changes in an incredibly fast pivot. The energy industry futures move constantly and quickly. So what you're going to wind up with is a bunch of fucking ducks that need dawn that you're going to have to scrub. You're going to
Starting point is 00:50:30 wind up with fracking water in your fucking drinking water. I mean, it's just like this is the real reality. And if he's pulling regulations out, which he says he's going to be doing, you've got to think that it's going to be in the best interest of some of those people to pull out some of those regulations that happen to regulate the industry that their lobbyists are in their ear for. So it could be really bad for
Starting point is 00:50:54 the environment. This specifically could be terrible for us. And I don't care. I don't have any kids, right? So I'm going to die in fucking 10 years or whatever however long i got right years please however long i got right optimist i'm gonna die optimist prime before the trump presidency's over but i'm gonna die and i don't have any fucking legacy i don't have any kids i have to worry about you know what i mean like i clearly there's kids i care about but they're not my kids you know what i mean like these kids are gonna be you know you know what? They got 50, 60 years left, 70 years in some cases, right? 80 years. What is the fucking, what are we going to look like in 80 years?
Starting point is 00:51:30 If we're fucking, if we're fucking wiping our ass with the United States as it is like, it's got it. I don't, I don't think that stinky toilet paper gets better with age. You know what I mean? That's depressing. Cause I've got those kids. Yep. I know.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Like, it's horrifying. I mean, and then you start talking about the climate skeptic. He's got picked for the EPA. And this one is really nightmarish. It's really nightmarish. We keep, and I know we joked about this on a previous podcast, we keep moving tipping point past tipping point in terms of climate change. You know, my kid, I've got a two-year-old, it's 2016.
Starting point is 00:52:06 If he lives to 80, we're talking about a kid who's going to die in 2096. What does his world look like in 2096? I guarantee it's drastically different than the world that I live in. I'm constantly wondering when I wake up in the morning and take a hot shower
Starting point is 00:52:21 if this is going to be when that turning point is when I'll stop and say, remember when you could just casually take a hot shower anytime you wanted? You could take two a day. Do you remember we could do that? There are so many parts about living in a world right now where the use of energy is casual, the use of clean water is casual, the abundance of fresh, clean air. It's not the case already
Starting point is 00:52:46 in in in china go to go to uh fucking berlin right now i don't know if it's right now but remember when they had you know the they gotta wear a fucking mask you can't see your hand in front of your face and just hung like a pall in the air yeah you know for for months and months and months beijing thank you very much i'm sorry sorry. You said Berlin. Did I? What a fucking asshole I am. What an asshole. It's probably dirty there too. I mean, let's be honest. I meant Beijing, but I'm retarded. Let's be honest. It's okay. It's okay. But I mean, think about that. Like that's a world
Starting point is 00:53:14 I don't have to live in. I just wanted to stop the emails. You know how that is. We're still going to get them. I'm going to tweet at me like, Tom doesn't know the difference between Berlin and Beijing. Fuck me. Actually, I don't. I don't know the difference. Never been either. They're probably not real. All right, so sixth. This is, again, the same
Starting point is 00:53:29 thing. Lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone Pipeline to move forward. Great. Again, this is the same thing. Seventh, cancel billions of payments to the UN climate change programs and use the money to fix America's water and environmental infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I just want to say real quick what I could find what we pay to the UN. Now, I did some digging. Please correct me if my numbers are off. But after digging for about 30 minutes to try to find out whether what we pay, I came up with $3 billion. Are you fucking kidding me? So if you make $100,000 a year, that's like $78. That's like $78 fucking dollars. And in 2020, they expect the cost to be up to $100 billion,
Starting point is 00:54:14 but that's split among nations, and that's sort of what the Paris talks are about. But $100 billion, again, even if we're paying it, it's not a lot of money in the grand scheme of things. Yeah, not at all. And I do not think you get much infrastructure for $3 billion. I don't think you get a lot. On a national scale?
Starting point is 00:54:31 On a national scale, I don't think you get a lot. Again, this is one of those things that he's saying, like, look, I'm going to do this thing. I'm going to cut out this shitty thing, and I'm going to make America great again by doing this thing because we don't agree on climate change. So he's saying I'm going to do – and what he's going to wind up doing is a pretty horrible thing because they do do stuff with that money and that's a good thing that they do. And then you're going to take that away and you're going to have what? You're going to make – oh, made a bridge. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:54:58 That's exactly – and that's the thing, right? Like it's not like he's going to reinvest it into climate change programs in the U.S. He's not going to take the money and take it from an international scope and make it a national scope. That's what he kind of words it as. That's not what's going to happen in the real world. Republicans don't do that. And he's not going to make a fucking new deal for everybody either.
Starting point is 00:55:14 You know what I mean? He's not going to be hiring tens of thousands of workers to make new roads and new, you know, whatever. He's not going to do that. There's no fucking, no Hoover Dam is being built. He's not going to do that. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:25 So, again, this is another thing that he's shifting now. This is all a different, he's talking about a different shift. Additionally, on the first day, I will take the following five actions to restore security to the constitutional, pardon me. I will take the following five actions to restore security and the constitutional rule of law. So first, cancel every unconstitutional executive order. And there are a ton of these. This, I mean, you could just scroll down. I found the same list.
Starting point is 00:55:56 This is from Obama. You could just scroll down. But the thing is, is like, you know, these, there's a range here. We're talking about certain things like how we interrogate terrorists. We're talking about sanctions against certain nations. We're talking about immigration. We're talking deportation. These things all range throughout here.
Starting point is 00:56:14 And there's some stuff about pay. There's other stuff. The other thing, too, is he can kind of decide, from what I've been reading, he can kind of decide that any of them are unconstitutional because there's some people who think that it might be unconstitutional. My suggestion is, and I don't know a lot about this, but I think that Andrew Torres and Thomas Smith will probably do an opening arguments if they haven't already on executive orders. Well, I did some reading on executive orders and he can, with the stroke of a a pen get rid of any one or all or yeah he can do it and so that's the thing with an executive order like one of the things obama did when he first came in you know like george bush had an executive order saying no embryonic
Starting point is 00:56:53 stem cell research and obama was like not so much and he just you know he made and and now he can come in now trump can come in and be like well i'm I'm fucking – I'm undoing what you did. Like that is the power. We talked about power creep. Did we talk about power creep? A little bit. A little bit. About when that seven-hour podcast that we did. Let's talk a little bit more about power creep because that's something that occurs to me and worries me about this particular subject.
Starting point is 00:57:19 So over the course of the last 16 years, George W. Bush and Obama and Obama accelerated the pace from George W. to Obama. And then I think one of the things that scares me is that I feel like Trump will continue to push this. And Obama didn't really push back on it. That's the thing is he didn't say, I'm going to take some of my power away. No. He didn't really do that, right? Absolutely not. So when I talk about power creep, I'm talking about the use of executive orders, right?
Starting point is 00:57:45 about the use of executive orders, right? And so there are a handful of things, and by handful, I mean dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of things that the president wants to get done. And, you know, the legislature is not getting done. And so he can sign an executive order. And the constitutionality of executive orders has been debated back and forth. And I don't know enough about it to speak terribly intelligently, but I know that it's controversial and it's been debated. But a number of things get done or get wiped out, meaning like, hey, we're not going to allow this any longer through the use of executive orders. As that power creeps and then you put it in the hands of a guy like Trump. The thing that scares me is that I think that Trump is going to have a hard time getting some of his things done, even with the Republican House and Senate. And I think he's the kind of egoist and narcissist and guy who has
Starting point is 00:58:26 been dictatorial in his control of his companies, because that's how companies run, that I think that power creep will only accelerate. So if you're worried about the constitutionality of executive orders and the power creep toward the presidency and toward the executive branch, this is only going to accelerate that pace of change. Yeah, there's two ends. There's less powerful and draconian, and I think it's going to lean toward the draconian. With Trump? With Trump, of course. Of course it will.
Starting point is 00:58:55 All right, so second, begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of my 20 judges on the list. I hope some of them are alive. Who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. And so there's a bunch of people I don't know. I looked at this list. There are just a bunch of federal judges
Starting point is 00:59:11 that I don't know. One guy, Senator Mike Lee from Utah, is the other one. And then Glenn Beck had mentioned him. I can't imagine this being anything but a horror show. I don't know enough about these judges. I could have spent plenty of time. I could have spent hours researching how they handle this stuff,
Starting point is 00:59:28 but I don't know how to research a judge well enough. So I'm going to leave it at like from, from his track record so far and from him getting Pence to agree to it. And even Ted Cruz saying, I like this list to me, it sounds like it'd be something bad but again I think that this list, you could probably go over this list
Starting point is 00:59:49 with Andrew Torres and he would tell you everything about these guys because it's his field so he would know. But you know how you can know is because he can say that Trump stood in front of everybody and said Scalia is basically a national hero. I want to replace him with somebody just like it.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Well, we know enough about Scalia to know that that guy was a goddamn nightmare. He was an awful person. I just hope they find somebody fat and dead. Yeah. That would be great. That would be amazing. Just keep dying.
Starting point is 01:00:16 They'd make the same level of decisions. Just keep dying. Exactly. Just appoint somebody and they keel over. And then they go, they just keel over. They like pop like zits. They like walk into there and just like jeffrey pop those fucking guys like fucking gremlins you know all right
Starting point is 01:00:31 um third cancel all federal funding to sanctuary cities and a sanctuary city if you don't know is where they don't prosecute people for being undocumented um it's basically like a city that's that legalizes an ounce of weed right you know it's like that sort of thing you won't be prosecuted if you go here there's a whole list of sanctuary cities that i found chicago's on it um and i want to read illinois actually because i think it's kind of funny chicago has champaign county illinois chicago illinois cicero evanston and then cook county which includes chicago cicero and evanston i know isn't that funny unless i mean i guess maybe what they're saying is that the county won't prosecute
Starting point is 01:01:10 you as well as these three cities that might be what they're saying but i just thought it was funny i was like it might have been it might have been just an order of operations could be too but if you look at some of these there's big cities on here as well as some you know not so big cities miami florida and then jupiter jupiter which is 60 000 and this and this list ranges all over the place this list is huge there's a ton of places in the united states where people will not get prosecuted based on just being an illegal immigrant so you know there's a number and he's gonna cut he's gonna cut all federal funding funding which which and there's a number of mayors are like, fucking bring it son. Seattle was like, great story.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Yeah. Guess what we're still doing? Yep. Being a sanctuary city because it's more, what, what, you know, let's not pretend that these cities do this out of the kindness of their hearts, right? They're not doing it because they're fucking humanitarian. It's economically viable. That's what they're saying.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And that's why Seattle and, and, you know, other cities that have come out and said, yeah, all right. You know what? Your federal funding isn't worth the economic impact of not doing this right that's what they're saying this is this is a dollars and cents issue absolutely and his proposal to get rid of federal funding to sanctuary cities that's a um that's a knee-jerk reactionary thing to do for people that are anti-immigrant exactly it's going to cost money and jobs let's not pretend that it's not it's just like when we fucking drug test people that are on welfare.
Starting point is 01:02:27 It's just a fucking feel-good thing for fucking assholes. All it is is so that you can look down your nose at someone a little more. That's all it is for. And that's what this is for. Fourth, begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that won't take them back. And technically, they're all criminals. Illegal immigrants are all criminals.
Starting point is 01:02:47 So technically he can do whatever he wants. And he also overstates the, he's talking about, I think he's talking about violent criminals, but he's overstating the, the, the level of crime by illegal immigrants. It's just not,
Starting point is 01:02:58 it's just not the level that he says it is. I know. I read that one and I was like, I that's that, that actually doesn't really mean it. It doesn't mean it doesn't mean it mean anything. There's nothing in there. Yeah, exactly. Not honestly.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Fifth, suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. And vetting, all vetting of people coming into our country will be considered extreme vetting. They waterboard you with Mountain Dew. Yeah, they have to. They actually snowboard you with Mountain Dew. Snowboard you? It's different. Extreme vetting. Snowboarding with Mountain Dew. I, they have to actually snowboard you with Mountain Dew. Extreme vetting snowboarding with Mountain Dew. I don't know what it means.
Starting point is 01:03:28 They just they just make a board out of snow and hit you with it and say, I don't want to be here anymore. Take a Mountain Dew slushy and that's what they use to waterboard you with. It's cold. It gives me brain freeze and I feel like I'm drowning. You have to you have to like jump off a cliff and base jump into the country, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:43 but yeah, so it's extreme vetting and i'm not sure what this does for asylum law right so like one of the things that we have is asylum we have a way in which somebody can say i'm seeking asylum just like when we talked about ayaan hirsi ali how she came to where she was aljama went to the netherlands where she came there and she was she was seeking asylum we have a say have a similar law. We have a way in which people can seek asylum in the United States based on being persecuted. At what level does this extreme vetting sort of supersede this because it's based on where they're coming from?
Starting point is 01:04:17 Well, my understanding is that this is actually one of the president's most broad powers is that he can do this. He can, absolutely. He can decide, you know, sorry, man, you're from Syria. Tough shit. Real sad. It's just fucking, you get the fucking nose stamp on coming in here. It's not that I disagree with vetting people that come into the country.
Starting point is 01:04:36 It's not that I disagree with that. But there's already a process. There's already a process for it. And, you know, I understand. One of the things I want to say, though, too, and this is something that we get constant shit about, people will try to transpose their country's immigration problems with ours. And our immigration problem is very, very, very different than the one that's happening in Europe right now. It's very different type of relationship that we have with them than the people that are coming in from the war-torn areas from those countries. It's a very different relationship, and they are not really analogous at all.
Starting point is 01:05:16 And so I don't want to get caught up in, well, in my country, immigration is a problem. It's like, okay, well, we're not in your fucking country. Yeah, it's a different set of circumstances. Donald Trump isn't fucking ruling in your country. We're talking about Donald Trump's first hundred days. We're not talking about how it is in your country. There are places that are having some very difficult times with immigrants in the EU. I get that. I understand that. But that's not here. That's not how it is here. So these are not analogous situations, and I won't treat them as such. So this next piece, he says, the next work, next I will work with Congress to introduce the
Starting point is 01:05:55 following broader legislative measures and fight for their passage in the first 100 days of my administration. And these are all sort of bills that he's suggesting. So the Middle Class Tax Relief and Simplification Act, an economic plan designed to grow the economy by 4 percent each year and create at least 25 million new jobs through massive tax reduction and simplification in combination with trade reform, regulatory relief and lifting the restrictions on American energy. The largest tax reductions are for the middle class. A middle class family with two children will get a 35% tax cut. The current number of brackets will be reduced from seven to three, and tax forms will likewise be greatly simplified. The business rate will be lowered from 35 to 15%, and trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a 10% rate. So that's the broad range of what this particular
Starting point is 01:06:53 middle-class tax relief simplification act does. Tax cuts might not free up money in the economy, right? Well, they often haven't. That's the thing is they often haven't. Right. And they just take money out of the government purse. That's all they do. They just take them.
Starting point is 01:07:11 We just don't get enough money, and then people just don't spend that money. Just because I get a tax cut doesn't necessarily mean I spend it on a new iPhone. You know what I mean? It could create a huge budget deficit, and bad trade can raise prices for us so it could mean a net loss, right?
Starting point is 01:07:29 So that's where this leads to, is that suddenly he's saying, what happens with this other stuff? Well, if we have bad trade deals, we can raise prices and then we're just at a net loss with the money that we're saving on our taxes. When I looked at what economists thought about this,
Starting point is 01:07:46 I really found two very divergent views when I was reading articles. And I know that his initial tax plan, economists that evaluated his initial tax plan was like, this is going to cost trillions of dollars. This is a terrible fucking decision. He's since revised that tax plan. Although a lot of the criticism is that it's sparse on details. It's not terribly practical. It doesn't necessarily have broad congressional support to actually happen, which is a problem with a number of these items. A number of these things, yeah. So let's pause real quick.
Starting point is 01:08:17 I know you don't want to get too far off track. Let's pause real quick and say that much of what he is proposing is not backed by his own party. Yeah. And it is likely for it to be very difficult for him to get a lot of these things through. And what I think we should remember when we say that is, the stuff that you probably disagree with isn't going to happen. Or stuff that you probably agree with is probably not going to happen. Not going to happen.
Starting point is 01:08:39 Right? So understand that. He doesn't have the backing of people that are going to agree with you. The anti-establishment stuff is not happening. The establishment won't let it happen. The establishment won't let it happen. But the anti-immigrant stuff probably will happen. It'll have broad backing.
Starting point is 01:08:55 The trickle-down economics garbage that he wants to propose will probably happen because this is good for those people. The anti-climate change stuff is good for industry. It's good for those people. Right. But when we talk about term limits, that shit's probably not going gonna happen right but when we talk about term limits that shit's probably not gonna happen we talk about lobbyists that shit's probably not gonna happen so there is shit on there that i agree with but again that's the stuff that's probably not gonna happen and this is the stuff that i think a lot of people voted for him for right because he said i want to get rid of the pork in washington i want to do that stuff and like fucking washington's like um bruh we're right
Starting point is 01:09:23 here i know we are right here there's a moment where it's like we can hear you right exactly i'm fucking like you're fucking my wife and i'm watching you do it here right it's a fucking i'll give you pointers yeah exactly yeah so the next one is end the offshore act and now the offshore is not what you think here uh, which establishes tariffs to discourage companies from laying off their workers in order to relocate in other countries and ship their products back to the U.S. tax-free and tariff-free. And specifically, what he's trying to do is lasso companies to stay here. And what that means to me is that may not want the people that hear this may not want to come back to the united states if
Starting point is 01:10:06 they realize that they're going to be stuck here you know i mean because if you say look i'm going to discourage these companies by creating tariffs right by creating tariffs for you i'm going to discourage these companies from actually relocating well if i'm away'm away, right? If I'm away. If you're already gone. If I'm already gone. You're not coming back. I may not come back and be like, oh, well, fucking, because if I want to leave, I want to leave at my whim.
Starting point is 01:10:31 I don't want to be stuck here. You know, this is fucking, this isn't Hotel California. You know what I mean? And I don't know that that's going to encourage businesses to stick around. Well, I think that dovetails, to be fair to him, which I don't want to be, but I think that dovetails with the point about the middle class tax relief.
Starting point is 01:10:47 He says the business rate will be lowered from 35% to 15%, and trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a lower rate, at a 10% rate. So I think that's the inducement, and he would try to make a bigger inducement to offset the sticking point. But I think that you're right in that companies don't like to be bottled in. They don't like that. There may be some companies who will say like – How would your company feel? No. They would be like, fuck you.
Starting point is 01:11:17 No. They'd be like, fuck you, bro. How about I fucking leave? You know what I mean? I think one thing he's not counting on is the spite factor that a lot of companies will you know they'll just be like fuck you i know how i am as a consumer right right i'm a spiteful consumer you're a spiteful person i am a spiteful person very true but i have a spidey sense but i'm i'm a spite man if you had a superpower would be
Starting point is 01:11:44 angrily leaving a shopping cart in the middle of an aisle i have i have on several occasions had a full shopping cart if they don't get enough people to run registers in chicago i just leave the entire shopping cart and leave i'm like fine you don't want my money put all these groceries back i don't even care at this point but i understand your ice cream's melting your meat's gone bad fuck you i don't care i don't care enough i'll go i'll go waste my time and energy somewhere else yeah right i'll go to another fucking place and i have a feeling like he's not counting on that he's thinking oh well they'll only think profits and i think companies will eat some profits to prove point right i think that that might happen i think some some will. I think some also, like nobody wants to be the guy who made the decision who two years from now, you're bottled in and now you're losing money because of a tariff that you didn't expect and you can't make that decision.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Having economic flexibility is huge for organizations. All right. for organizations. All right. So the next one is the American Energy and Infrastructure Act leverages public-private partnerships and private investments through tax incentives to spur $1 trillion in infrastructure investment over 10 years, and it is revenue neutral. I was looking at this, and this bill, this particular bill has already passed the House. And the bill would make changes to permitting requirements for pipelines and other energy infrastructure at international borders instead of obtaining a presidential permit. Sponsors of oil pipelines and electric transmission projects that cross international borders would be required to obtain a certificate of crossing from either the United
Starting point is 01:13:23 States Secretary of State or the United States Secretary of Energy. And that's from Wikipedia. It was passed in the House in 2013, but I suspect there's a Senate holdup. And that's why he brings this up, right? So this is done. This one's going to be done. I mean, this one, if it passed the House, it's done. So it's just going to happen. It's in like Flynn. The next one is kind of horrifying. This one is School Choice Act. Oh my God. We've talked about school choice. I fucking hate it. This one is School Choice and Education Opportunity
Starting point is 01:13:52 Act redirects education dollars to give parents the right to send their kid to public, private, charter, magnet, religious, or home school of their choice. Ends Common Core brings education supervision to local communities, and it expands vocational and technical
Starting point is 01:14:07 education and make two- to four-year college more affordable. I agree with some of this stuff, but it's so vague. It's like, okay, well, great. What does that mean, make two- to four-year college more affordable? I don't know what that means. More technical education. I like the idea, but what does that mean? N Common
Starting point is 01:14:24 Core, again, this is a witch hunt that they've been on for the last however long common cores existed they've been on a witch hunt for it so i want to talk about two things on this that bother me the end common core you can't end common core midstream common core it would be very problematic to not give it an opportunity to now play out yeah you can't, you just, what are you going to flip that fucking switch in the middle of somebody's educational experience? You know, come on. How much time, energy resources already been put into place and now we're not even going to
Starting point is 01:14:54 find out, you know, like how effective it is. We're not even going to give it a fucking chance just because people are mad that they have to do math a different way. It's fucking retarded. And then the whole idea of like, well, we're going to give people a choice to send their kids to wherever. You're funding religious schools. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's the voucher system. Voucher systems are fucking full of problems. We've talked about these problems ad nauseum. I don't want to repeat them. The voucher system is a way for federal
Starting point is 01:15:18 dollars to fund private religious institutions. It's just a backdoor to way to fund religious institutions. The next one is repeal and replace Obamacare act. It fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with health savings accounts. That's not actually true. He's already talking about keeping some provisions. The ability to purchase health insurance across state lines and lets states manage Medicare funds. Also Ryan's talking about eliminating Medicare reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA where over 4,000 drugs are
Starting point is 01:15:51 awaiting approval. And we especially want to speed the approval of life-saving medications. I don't know what kind of red tape you're cutting. If you're cutting medical regulations and shit, that actually sounds more problematic than it's fucking worth, right? I understand, you know, and shit, that actually sounds more problematic than it's fucking worth, right? I understand that government processes build up some red tape, but is some of that stuff in there for safety? Because if it is, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:16:12 Here's some more Vioxx, guys. I had a heart attack. Right. Awesome. Also, right now he's talking about the pre-existing conditions things. Before they mentioned this, I was hearing about women going in to get their IUD replacement now because they have five years even though they have like two or three years left they're like well just take it out and
Starting point is 01:16:28 put it back in can you just fucking be like can you figure out like where to go with that i'd like an oil change while you're in there can you change the tires do whatever i need to drain the fluids i just need a whole lube change i need a quick lube you need a new chassis. No, but seriously, there's women out there that are like, what if Pence gets his way and says there's no birth control or something? I was talking to somebody the other day. I was like, fucking get your tubes tied now. If you were going to do it, now's the time.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Now's the time to do it. Affordable Child Care and Elder Care Act allows Americans to deduct child care and elder care from their taxes, incentivizing employers to provide on-site child care services and creates tax-free dependent care savings accounts for both young and elderly dependents with matching contributions for low-income families. I don't hate this. I like this. I don't hate this.
Starting point is 01:17:22 I wonder where the tax breaks come from. Are we making more of a deficit by doing this? Like, again, we're talking about tax breaks. And also one of the things that really bothers me about that, you know, the Republican party is we love fucking, we love tax breaks, but we hate welfare. And it's the same fucking thing, essentially. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, we love these tax breaks, but it's like, well, why don't we just provide this stuff? Why don't we just provide for people who need it? This, you know, this stuff instead, what we're doing is we're saying the people who can easily afford it are getting tax breaks on it. And the people who can't afford it. Yeah. There's this fuck. I like this a lot, actually. I, you know, I don't know how it would be put into place, but I think what something like this could do is it could
Starting point is 01:18:02 incentivize people to enter the workforce that right now are disincented to enter the workforce because they have someone to care for. And they have to match the cost of child or elder care before they make a profit working. So if more people enter the workforce, it's more tax dollars that are created. That's more money that moves into the economy. That seems like a good thing. Also more MILFs in the workforce. That's all I'm saying. Hey, what's up ladies um the last the next one is end illegal immigration act it fully funds the
Starting point is 01:18:32 construction of a wall on our southern border with the full understanding that the country of fucking mexico will be reimbursing the united states for the full cost of such a wall they will not do it they've already said they won't do it. I don't know where you're going to do it. I don't know what you're going to do. He said he's going to do it by the imposition of tariffs and by taxing remittances. That's how he said he's going to do it. He could, by doing those things,
Starting point is 01:18:56 get the money from Mexicans, not Mexico. Right. That's a little bit of a difference. It's a little bit of a difference. It establish That is a difference, yeah. It's a little bit of a difference. It establishes a two-year mandatory minimum federal prison sentence for illegally reentering the United States after a previous deportation, a five-year mandatory minimum for illegally reentering for those with felony convictions. Who pays to house these people? Disdemeanor convictions for two or more prior deportations also reforms visa rules to enhance penalties for overstaying to ensure that open jobs are offered to American workers first. Hey, look, we don't want you here, but we're going to put you up for five years.
Starting point is 01:19:34 I know, right? That doesn't even make any sense. Like, I'm going to put you in jail. Well, then you're still paying for me to be here. I don't. I don't understand it either. You know what it is, though? A lot of privatized
Starting point is 01:19:50 prisons make money off this. Oh my God. They make money off this. I know, I hadn't thought about that, and I think you're right, and that makes me fucking sick. So we're just gonna expand the prison industrial complex? That's part of our solution?
Starting point is 01:20:06 Restoring Community Safety Act reduces surging crime, drugs, and violence by creating a task force on violent crime, increasing funding for programs that train and assist local police, increases resources for federal law enforcement agencies and federal prosecutors to dismantle gangs and put violent offenders behind bars. Also to militarize the fuck out of our police force. Yeah, enjoy tanks on your street because that's what this is going to do. This is the cut it out already bill, right? Also, the task force on drugs went so well. I can't wait until they do the one on gangs. I know, man. We've had task forces on gangs before,
Starting point is 01:20:47 and we still have gangs. Yeah. Like, gangs, you're not getting rid of gangs. You're not getting rid of people getting together to do stuff. That's what gangs, I mean, how are you going to stop that?
Starting point is 01:20:57 That's human activity. We're tribalistic by nature. Yeah. You're going to stop that? How are you going to fucking stop that? All right. So, restoring National Security, rebuilds our military by eliminating the defense sequester and expanding military investment, provides veterans with the ability to receive their public VA treatment or attend a private doctor of their choice, protects our vital infrastructure from cyber attack, whatever that means. We're going to build walls in our computers.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Firewalls. Establish new screening procedures for immigration to ensure that those who are admitted to our country support our people and our values. What does that mean? How broad is that in scope, right? It means a religious test to get into the country. It means a fucking Muslim list. That's what it means.
Starting point is 01:21:46 It can mean even more than that, too. Because when you say something that broad, new screening procedures for immigration to ensure those who are admitted to our country support our people and our values, that can mean anything. That can mean anything at all. That can mean that people... That's horrifyingly broad.
Starting point is 01:22:01 What a scope of powers. That's a terrifying one of those that,'s a couple of these in there that are vague enough where they can be really, really horrible. I hope that some of these things come to pass and they're good things. But some of these, I read nothing good in the end of that one. Now, do I think that helping veterans get better medical care is a good thing? Absolutely. I've been for that for years. You know what I mean? I've been for thing. Absolutely. I've been for that for years. You know what I mean? Like I've been for that. Absolutely. I want to see veterans.
Starting point is 01:22:28 We underfund the VA. We underfund it, period. We need to fucking make sure we do a better job. You know, they want to go to a private doctor and we want to pay for that. I understand that. I get it. I fucking want to make sure the VA and that they have, the veterans have the ability to have good healthcare. They've, they've, they have done a service for this country that we need to repay. So I'm not, I'm not willing to just be like, no, they shouldn't get any fucking funding. But I'm wondering where that money is going to come from, right? He's got all these fucking plans to spend a lot of money,
Starting point is 01:22:53 and then I'm just seeing a ton of tax cuts. Where the fuck are we going to get all this money? I don't know, man, because he says rebuild our military by eliminating and expanding military investment. The military is our biggest line item. I know. It's our biggest, well, I know entitlements, but outside of it, the military is our fucking biggest line item.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Defense, we already spent a gazillion dollars on that. We spend more than all the other countries. Not all of them, but almost all of them combined. You put a lot of them in one side of the seesaw and us on the other, and it's about equal. We made that into a fucking trebuchet. We shot those fuckers up so high exactly we spend so much money the idea that our military needs to be rebuilt why so we can fight the moon yeah like what are we doing what are you talking about we were surrounded on all sides by oceans yeah you know to your point before one of
Starting point is 01:23:40 the reasons we don't have the immigration problem that Europe has, one of the reasons, is our physical geography. That also helps to keep us real fucking safe. We have a north border and a south border. But guess what? East and west, our border is called the ocean. And it's real fucking safe because we can see your motherfucking ass coming, all right? Exactly, from a long way off. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:24:01 We are not unsafe. We are not unsafe. We have all the planes and tanks and trains and automobiles that we need. Yeah, the only thing I'm worried about is what happens when they join up with Russia, which is what's going to happen. We're going to join up with Russia, and we're going to join up with Assad, right? And we're going to go – Buddy, I can't. We're going to start rocking our – we're going to start doing some flying missions over there and start rocking Syria.
Starting point is 01:24:26 What's going to happen then? You know, like we've been sort of insulated from that. But he's going to up – when we talk about what he's going to do, one of the major things he's been talking about doing, and this is specific in this last one when he's talking about the cyber attack stuff. cyber attack stuff he's talked about turning back on keyword logging for citizens not just for fucking like people that are what they're watching whatever like he's talking about for everybody right so when when fucking jim baker had his fucking his underwear pulled up over his eyes in a wedgie freaking the fuck out about what obama's doing i know what he really needed to do was be worried about what Trump is going to do because Trump doesn't,
Starting point is 01:25:07 he's fucking does not give a fuck. These are people who are going to fucking piss away your freedoms for, for the illusion of security, the illusion of security. It's not real security either. Absolutely. That's the thing that makes me crazy. If you're going to fuck me,
Starting point is 01:25:21 you know, at least, at least give me something in return. But here, all they're doing is they're, they're like, we're going to take away your freedoms. Can you imagine, Cecil? Can you imagine? I'm shifting, but can you imagine a strategic military alliance with Russia? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:35 No, I mean, it could be very soon. Are you fucking kidding me? We're at that place? January 30th, maybe. You don't even know. The other thing, too, is he's also going to be appointing people. And this is the next thing we're going to be talking about, but he's also going to be appointing people. One of the things he was saying was FCC chairman might be somebody who was part of Verizon. And kiss your net neutrality goodbye, folks.
Starting point is 01:25:58 He's already said not only does he not understand what it is, but he doesn't like it. Yeah. What? What? What are you kidding me? So, you know, all the people out there who were saying, you know, oh... That's rejecting a threesome before you've even kissed a girl. You know what I mean? Like, how do you know?
Starting point is 01:26:12 Ménage à trois. No, I don't eat beef. Yeah. All right. So, the last one is, clean up corruption from the Washington Act. Enact new ethics reforms to drain the swamp.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Fucking drain the swamp and reduce corrupting influence. Where's Shrek going to live? The corrupting influence of special interests on our politics. I want to mention these are some of the people that he's picking for his specifically picking for some of the main jobs in our government. Okay. Jay Stephen Hart is chairman of Williams & Jensen, is in charge of the labor team.
Starting point is 01:26:49 His clients include Visa, American Council of Life Insurers, Coca-Cola, General Electric, et cetera. Michael McKenna of MWR Strategies is working for the energy department team, and he works for Dow Chemical or did some work for Dow Chemical in the past. These are all people that are just like, you know, they're with these huge corporations. David Bernhardt of Brownstein Hyatt is working, who leads the interior department team. He lobbies for Westlands Water District in Central California.
Starting point is 01:27:22 So he's a lobbyist, right? Another guy. There's all these lobbyists that he has lined up. keeps saying i'm going to drain the swamp drain the swamp drain the swamp motherfucker just keeps pouring buckets of fucking goop in there right yeah exactly i know i'm just fucking he's like i brought you some alligators and ferns anyway exactly no swamps for us i could keep reading but there's a ton of these people that he's got set up that are lobbyists already that have been lobbyists that are set up for his teams that he's claiming he's going to reduce these special interests in politics when he's hiring people from the special interests to pick people that are going to be the
Starting point is 01:27:53 politicians in those positions i had this conversation with a buddy of mine the other day and i couldn't even believe it when we were having this conversation you know he said one of the things he said he's a smart fucking guy that I was talking to. He said, hey, you know, at least Trump doesn't owe anything to anybody, unlike these politicians. And I said, you're a fucking idiot if you think that. You're a fucking idiot if you think that somebody involved in international business at the scale and scope that Trump has been involved in doesn't have fucking favors out there here and there and everywhere. He owes the same people. He owes all the same people as any other politician because in order to get shit done, he's got to promise this and take that.
Starting point is 01:28:31 He's doing the same kinds of things. He's accumulating the same kinds of relationships, the same kinds of favors, the same kind of horse trading that goes on in politics. It might be different people, but it's the same set of problems. All you've done is you've replaced one set of cronies with another set of cronies. That's it.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Do we really think that somebody like Donald Trump doesn't owe favors to get this thing built or that thing built or that permit or this sign off? Are you fucking kidding me? How fucking naive and stupid are you that you would fucking say that yeah it's a stupid fucking thing to say well we what we have i think is we have on the other side some people who are going to forgive trump for not doing the things that he said he was going to do sure because there's going to be some things that he's just not going to be able to do and for and and and let's be honest you know we were willing to forgive Barack Obama for a lot of stuff that he didn't do.
Starting point is 01:29:26 You forgive. Nobody gets done, and everybody implicitly recognizes that nobody gets done a tenth of what they say they're going to get done. What you're looking for is their direction. Is the direction of their policies headed roughly in the same direction that I want the country? You're not going to be able to get it all done. I know that. But are you pointed in the same direction that I think the country. And you're not going to be able to get it all done. I know that. But are you pointed in the same direction that I think we should be pointed at? Yeah. No. Yeah. No, no, not at all. With these 100 days, I don't agree. I will say
Starting point is 01:29:53 one of the things that a lot of people have been talking about specifically is a lot of people are afraid. A lot of people are afraid. And I think there are some genuine concerns. I am afraid. That we need to be afraid of. And we need to keep a very watchful eye on. We don't want to be a fascist nation. And we don't want to be a nation that treats all immigrants as if they're less than us. We don't want to be a nation that is going to collect a database of names for no other reason than to single out members of the population. There's no reason to do that. You know, we're just singling you out as an other, and that's an awful thing to do. So there are some very good reasons. People that are, you know, that are here that, you know, I was talking to my buddy
Starting point is 01:30:36 who was doing the march here, he was marching in Chicago, and he told me, he said, look, I teach kids here in Chicago. I'm a school teacher in high school. And these kids in my class, they're terrified that they're going to get deported. These are kids that have been here since they're three months old. They don't have another country. They don't, you know, yeah, are they illegal? Yeah, they're illegal in the sense that they've been here since they're three months and it was against their will to come here but they're three that that three months until now america is the only thing they know they don't speak any other language they don't know anything about their country of origin they don't they live
Starting point is 01:31:15 here they live in chicago they live here and for us to to be willing to just willy-nilly walk in and just start throwing people out of our country, which is what he's been threatening the whole time. So don't tell me I'm overreacting yet. Okay. That's what he's been saying he's going to do. Yet to see what's actually going to happen with that. But until that point, I'm trusting him to his word. That's what he said he was going to do. And that's what his constituents want him to do. They voted for that. Yes. And this is one of those things that I think the right agrees with.
Starting point is 01:31:49 So this is one of those bad marks that nobody on our side agrees with that they all agree with, that they're going to be like, yep, time to go, guys. And so we're going to have some very serious problems, and there's a reason for certain people to be scared in this country. So I recognize that. What happened when Obama took office was the privileged got scared. The privileged people of this country looked upon the world and were like, fuck. Oh, my God. He's going to take our guns away. He's going to take my nice paying job away, my cushy life away.
Starting point is 01:32:20 A black person is going to move into my neighborhood now. All these things. All this stuff that they said was going to happen under Obama, the guns being nothing, none of it happened, right? None of it happened. And it wasn't from him trying it either. It wasn't from his lack of ability. It was from his lack of effort because he never tried to get rid of your gun because it was never a desire. It was never a stated goal and he fucking came out and said i don't want your guns yeah but people did people pushed back against that now it's the other side now the privileged is in office and they're going after the people that are underprivileged these these marginalized communities and the marginalized communities don't have the healthy jobs and the,
Starting point is 01:33:07 you know, the way in which to fight against this stuff the way the privilege did. And so we've got to step up. We've got to step up and protect people that need protecting now. And this 100 days, there's a few things in here, but like we said, there's going to be a lot that's good. I think some of this stuff's just going to roll right past and the stuff that's going to roll past as the bad stuff. That's the stuff that I don't think anybody here really wants or anybody with any foresight really wants, right? People that don't mind clear cutting our economy or our environment, they don't give a fuck, right? They're here for now. How much can I squeeze? How much blood can I squeeze out of this stone right now? I don't give a fuck about long-term consequences.
Starting point is 01:33:49 That's the kind of people that are in power right now. So it's going to be a long, hard road for these next two years. Minimum. Yeah. Minimum, too. But these first 100 days are going to be rough. They're going to be rough. And we'll see where he goes with this.
Starting point is 01:34:02 He's starting to pull center with some of the things he's saying, but we don't know where he's going to be because he hasn't done anything yet and he hasn't had any power yet. We'll see what happens in those first hundred days. And he's a wild card like we've never had before. I want to point that out. Two things that I'll say before I leave it. It's been the case twice now in my life that I have witnessed an election that I was terribly dispirited by. I was very dispirited when George W. Bush was elected. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:34:31 And you know what it turns out? I was fucking right to be dispirited, right? Absolutely. Because George W. Bush was a shitty president that got us embroiled in an actual war under false pretenses that cost, let us not be unclear here, hundreds of thousands of lives. A war which is in all real senses still being waged 15 years from its onset. We're talking about a war that has outlasted both world wars combined. Let's not be unclear about what a shitty president can mean for our world. And you're not even touching the economy. And very briefly, George W. Bush's response to an economic recession
Starting point is 01:35:10 was to give everybody a check for $300. You know, a shitty president can make an enormous impact on the lives of our citizens, on the lives of our international community, on our reputation. We have a president, and George W. Bush was a known quantity, right? He was somebody with a track record and a history in governance. We have a guy in power now, and this is one of the reasons I'm scared, who is a total wild card. He is a total loose cannon. If you think about him in terms of any policy position that he has
Starting point is 01:35:42 ever taken, almost all of them he has been on one side and on the other side and every step in between. You have no idea what he's really going to do. You have no idea what he'll be able to get done if he'll push back. You have no idea how Congress is going to react to him. You have no idea how vindictive he'll be to the people he's burned and been burned by
Starting point is 01:35:58 throughout this political process. We have no idea. He's threatened to put Hillary Clinton behind bars. Which is a third world country thing to do. Absolutely. That is what happens in third world countries. At his rally when he won, they were screaming, lock her up. Unbelievable. This is literally unbelievable that this has happened. This is a moment where you cannot, you can't sit on your hands and say, well, it's just one of those instances where the guy I didn't like got in or your person lost.
Starting point is 01:36:28 It's time to do a thing. Do a thing. Do something. Cecil had great suggestions at the beginning of the show. Pick two and do them. Do those things because if you don't do those things then nothing is going to happen except for more of this. More of
Starting point is 01:36:44 this shit is going to happen. Yeah, for sure. Well, we is going to happen except for more of this. More of this shit is going to happen. Yeah, for sure. Well, we're going to spend the next two years being a little more political for sure. So we understand that the show is skeptical and political. We're going to try to intersperse whatever we can that is not Trump, but understand that this show is going to be Trump-based, sorry, outside the United States. Trump, but understand that this show is going to be Trump based, sorry, outside the United States. Although I think outside the United States at this point is looking like, uh, Eli and the tea house with their hands sort of touching. They're like, Oh, look at America. You guys are a bunch
Starting point is 01:37:13 of dipshits, you know? Right. I have a feeling that they're going to be excited about all the things that we have to say about this stuff. And while we're hiding in our bunkers, eating our Jim Baker slop over the next several years, um, we're going to try to put out, I think, some pretty good shows. But we're going to leave that for the next time, and we're going to leave you like we always do with the Skeptic's Creed. Credulity is not a virtue. It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue, hypno-Babylon bullshit. Hypno-Babylon bullshit Couched in Scientician double bubble toil and trouble
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