Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 329: Lashes for Some...
Episode Date: December 5, 2016We had the honor of having Dan Arel on the show last week. Unfortunately, due to technical difficulties we lost the recording. Thankfully Dan was super cool and understanding and agreed to come back o...n the show in January. Tom and Cecil cover some of the stories they recorded with Dan from his blog Danthropology. Stories: Check out info on our live show with GAM in Chicago:
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Hey, this is Desert Dave.
I'm watching episode number 320-something, 328.
And I was listening to the self-healing
thing, and you guys didn't get it. What it is is you go in there, and they beat the fuck
out of you, and you're laying on the floor, and you're like, I need a doctor, and they're
like, heal yourself. That's the self-healing part. Ta-da. AMF.
Hey, guys. I was just listening to episode 327, and you were talking about the having a repair guy in your home
and him saying something racist.
But I have, like, just the opposite problem.
I am the repair guy,
and find myself in people's homes when they're saying this crazy racist shit
and have no recourse.
I can't do anything because otherwise I'll, like, lose my fucking job.
What were you holding? Hey, Tom. Hey, Cecil. I was just thinking about this.
This is Matthew from Justice, Illinois, now Willow Springs, Illinois.
But anyways, I'm retired Navy.
And one of the things that they do for presidents is they name aircraft carriers after presidents.
Think about that. The USS Donald Trump aircraft carrier. Fuck us, right? Bye.
Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart,
or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason.
Recording live from Glory Hole Studios in Chicago,
this is Cognitive Dissonance.
Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way.
We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad.
Oh, we got a drum roll.
I wanted to hit because we're going to be on Dogma Debate later on today.
We are.
And the last time David Smalley was in studio, he was like a fucking bull in the china shop.
He was banging into the fucking table every three seconds.
You know, for such a big deal, he had small manners.
And I'm surprised he could even reach the table.
We had that booster seat for him.
He was sitting on a stack of phone books.
Come on, guys.
This is going to air the day after we appear on Dogma Debate.
We're going to be on the last hour of batting cleanup.
So clean it up at the glory hole today.
Sloppy 23rds.
I don't know.
Hey, I'm still in there.
I'm still in the game, buddy.
I've got that video bookmarked.
Oh, God.
Oh, God.
After the first fucking Baker's dozen, you just got to call that shit a night.
I feel like somebody's done everything I've got planned.
Well, the thing is, the first baker's dozen,
there's plenty of batter in there already.
That's so disgusting.
That's so disgusting.
I'll tell you what,
that's definitely a team
Danish moment.
We haven't even gotten two minutes in this.
You didn't even finish the intro.
Oh, God.
That's amazing.
That's also horrifying in every way.
Episode 329.
Episode 329 is what this is.
Yeah, welcome, Matt.
Yeah, you can listen to it now.
So we had a snafu.
I wouldn't.
We had Dan Errol on, and we recorded a great hour with Dan.
It really was very good.
I mean, it was a really good hour.
Even for our show, it was good.
Not only did we cover some of the stuff that he had done on his blog, but then we also talked about his book that came out, The Secular Activist, a how-to manual for protecting the wall between church and state.
And we interviewed him about his book and about his blog.
And our machine broke. for protecting the wall between church and state. And we interviewed him about his book and about his blog.
And our machine broke.
We recorded.
It was recording fine.
And then when I went to eject the card,
it was zero, zero all the way across.
This has never happened to me before.
I know.
Yeah, we say that all the time.
Right before I ejected.
I had a premature ejection.
Again, this has never happened to me before.
Turns out that was lost to the world. We didn record it we didn't have a backup so uh so i sent dan a message we're gonna have dan back on in
january we're very apologetic dan was totally cool about it but we uh we instead what we're
gonna do today is talk about the same articles that we talked about with dan we're just gonna
do it with just the two of us instead because we can make it if we try we can you know so
we'll massage the prostate we'll get it back to where it was just the two of us instead because we can make it if we try. We can, you know, so we'll massage the prostate.
We'll get it back to where it was and then we'll record it.
It'll never be like it was.
Not after the first Baker's dozen.
That's not snapping back into place.
You got to tag in an undocumented worker.
You just go to Home Depot and grab a couple of –
When there's 24 people lined up, they're all undocumented.
All right.
So, Tom, why don't we get started with a couple of articles from Dan's blog.
Dan does the blog Danthropology at Patheos.
Let's get started with the minority Trump one.
Yeah, let's talk about this.
So minority – I love just the way this is being phrased now he says he didn't coin this term but i think
it's beautiful minority president-elect trump i love that that's great uh claims millions of
people voted illegally um so now the millions of illegal voters claim um i know we talked about
this before but that that is circulated based on an InfoWars Facebook tweet article.
It's garbage, made-up nonsense.
There was no evidence to say that millions of voters voted.
And let's talk about how that even happens.
So let's speak specifically to Illinois.
So in Illinois, we have a roll system.
Now, I don't know what they have in every state, so I don't want to talk about every state because I know every state is a little bit different.
But I think most are fundamentally similar, so we can use this kind of as an example, right?
I know in a lot of states, it's more strict than Illinois, right?
More strict on the voting?
More strict on who you are because when I walked in to vote this time, I walked up directly to the guy.
The guy said, do you have ID?
And I looked right at him.
I said, I don't need ID.
Here's my name.
And then he looked at me like I was growing horns on my head.
And both of us just stared at each other for about a minute until he finally just started flipping through the ballots.
But he had asked me for ID.
And I'm just like, I don't need to give it.
And I had the ID within reach in my pocket.
I could have easily pulled it out.
But it's a principal issue for me.
I think voter id is a vote
tax you don't need that we don't need to have that and the reason why we don't need to have that
is because uh is because it's a role system like we said if somebody comes in and takes my vote
then there's going to be some problems right then there's going to be some issues then there then we
can tell if there's voter fraud because they gave away my ballot my ballot is specific to me
so if they give away my ballot i'll know when specific to me. So if they give away my ballot, I'll know.
When I come in later and somebody says, oh, we already got Cecil's ballot.
Cecil's ballot was already given out.
Well, now there's a fucking problem.
Right.
And there has to be some sort of investigation.
And there's a resolution.
There's a resolution.
They're not going to take them both.
There's a lot of processes involved in here.
Right.
So let's talk about why that can't happen in numbers.
It can make it happen onesies, twosies, maybe, for somebody who's an undocumented person in the country.
But in order for you to fake a vote, right,
first of all, you're risking a federal offense.
So let's say I'm an undocumented or illegal immigrant, right?
I'm risking a federal offense.
So it's a really high, like, the punishment,
the potential drawback, the risk versus reward,
it does not make any sense, right?
The risk is enormous.
So it's a federal offense.
I'm risking that.
I'm risking deportation, right?
So I'm here.
I care enough that I want to affect the election.
I want to stay, but I'm at a risk of federal offense.
And then how am I going to do it?
The only way that I can think to do it is to know with reasonable certainty that you know who's on the registration or the role, rather, at a specific polling place.
So you get assigned a polling place based on where you live, right? In Illinois.
Yeah, again, I don't want to speak for the whole country.
I can only speak for where I have voted.
In Illinois, my polling place is across the street from my house.
That's it.
That's where I get to vote.
And I moved several times this year.
Yeah.
So my polling place.
Sometimes not by choice.
You know, I leave when I'm asked.
But I moved several times this year.
So I actually had to drive all the way back to where I had lived way back at the beginning of the year.
You had to follow the trail of tears?
I know.
No, man, they weren't tears.
Tears of joy?
Yeah, right?
So I had to go all the way back to where I owned some property, let's say.
Where your 40 acres and a mule is?
It turns out I had 58% of my vote still lives in that area.
So I went back to where I used to live in order to vote because that's where I appear on the roll.
So if I'm an undocumented immigrant or whatever, and I want to vote, I have to know the name of somebody that's going to appear on that roll.
It's not like they just say, what's your name?
Okay, great.
You can vote.
We'll just write it down that you came here.
You just have to know your neighbor or whatever.
Like your neighbor is –
But let's say I did.
Let's say I said, you know, I'm Bob Johnson, right?
I'm going to say I'm Bob Johnson,
but I better be goddamn sure that Bob Johnson is registered in the place
because, like, for example, I'm not registered where I live.
I'm registered 17 miles away from where I live.
So somebody, like, let's say your next door neighbor goes and says, Tom's not going to vote.
I'll go to the polling place.
And they walk in and they say, I'm Tom.
And they say, well, we don't have a Tom.
Exactly.
Now there's some awkward questions and you're risking federal offense and deportation in order to do this.
It doesn't make any sense, right?
So, again, the risk-reward doesn't make sense.
And if they're willing to trade their vote to you, or, you know, like
actually, like I were to say to you,
Tom, I'm not going to vote this time. You can have my vote,
and you walk in and say, I'm Cecil, and they give you your ballot,
and you're on your way. Sure.
Why wouldn't I just go and
vote if that's the case? It doesn't make, it's
simple, right? I'm willing to risk a federal offense
because once they capture you, right,
you're going to say, hey, well, I asked him, and he said yes,
and now there's two people involved.
Why would anyone do this?
It doesn't make any sense.
And this idea that 3 million people came out,
whatever the number was, came out and voted illegally,
it just doesn't make any sense.
Does it ever happen?
I'm sure occasionally it happens,
but you know how many times it happened?
One time they caught like one or two people.
It was two people.
They were both Trump supporters.
Right.
Yeah.
And they weren't undocumented.
They were just people who tried to vote twice.
Exactly.
They went to another polling place.
The number of instances that have actually been verified is in the dozens.
Very small.
And the thing is, it's not over a year's span.
Yeah.
And we're talking about the thing I think we want to talk about here is that the president-elect,
the minority president-elect, is
publishing these things on Twitter
with literally no proof
whatsoever. He's just saying a thing out
loud. Right. Which is crazy.
And he's getting thousands and thousands of people
behind him that are saying, yeah,
those damn dirty
illegals, they all voted extra
because the president said it's true.
Yeah, right.
I mean, everything he says
is fire in a crowded theater now.
I mean, he should have responsibility
for the things he says
to at least have some modicum of truth to them.
It clearly did not bother him
during the election cycle, right?
He just made shit up.
I mean, I don't care what side you're on.
You have to recognize that, right? He just made a lot of shit up during the election cycle, right? He just made shit up. I mean, I don't care what side you're on. You have to recognize that, right? He just made a
lot of shit up during the election cycle.
His truth-o-meter thing on the PolitiFact
was like, it was crazy.
It was like, he was like the fifth
from the bottom in terms of truthiness
or whatever, you know,
to borrow a phrase. In the
truthiness category, he was fifth from the bottom
from PolitiFact's
fact-checking, right? So clearly
that's not something that bothers him. But like you said, now he's the president or president-elect,
minority president-elect. So his words have more weight, right? And there are going to be people
who just believe what the minority president-elect says because of his authority, right? So their
argument from authority is a thing for a reason. It's problematic, but people still do it, right? So their argument from authority is a thing for a reason. It's problematic,
but people still do it. Yeah. Right. So, you know, he's going to tweet something like that
out and there's going to be lots of people are like, well, the fucking president said it. Yeah.
And that's that. And that's got to be a real thing. Right. Yeah. That's that's a scary fucking thing.
You know, and I want to talk for a minute about why I think Trump would do something like this.
I think Trump would. Trump knows this isn't true, right?
I think he knows it's not true,
or at least he knows there's no evidence for it, right?
I mean, he has to know that InfoWars
is not a credible source of information,
like a screenshot or some shit.
Like, that's not a credible source of information.
But what he's doing is he is crazily,
as the winner of a presidential election,
still trying to position himself as an underdog, right?
Yeah.
He's still trying to position himself as the man against whom most are aligned because that way he is the great and powerful Oz, right?
He gets to be the guy who is overcoming all the obstacles.
He gets to be the guy who cannot be stopped.
He's this outsider juggernaut.
And he's going to lose the outsider juggernaut role now that he is ensconced in this position of power and authority because you can't be an outsider once you're already in.
still appear to be the underdog against whom the forces of the media and everything else are aligning against and who he pushes back on because people love an underdog story, right?
He gets to be the bad news bearer's president.
And in a lot of ways, he is.
He already is.
There's some truth to that.
He already is.
I mean, even though he's a fucking billionaire.
He's a billionaire white guy.
He's a billionaire game show host who fucking won the presidency right but the fact of the matter remains he is a fucking
he's the bad news bears man he proved everybody wrong he came up he came up to on you know nine
innings you know they were they were losing and he had a grand slam in the fucking last inning
and he won the game he did and he absolutely he absolutely did. There's no doubt about that.
You can't get past that as much as I'd like to.
But the thing is, is that you also got to look at, too, here's a guy who said the whole
time the election is rigged.
This is rigged.
It's all rigged.
It's all rigged.
It's all rigged.
Setting himself up to fail, but then also blaming the system if it fails.
Yeah, right.
But now he hedged.
Now he won.
And now he's still saying it's rigged.
So why don't I shift gears here?
Because we want to talk a little bit about the other thing that he had said this week. Now he won, and now he's still saying it's rigged. So why don't I shift gears here?
Because we want to talk a little bit about the other thing that he had said this week.
This is a quote directly from Donald Trump's Twitter.
Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag.
If they do, there must be consequences, perhaps a loss of citizenship or a year in jail.
I hate the way you sound right now.
I hate the way you sound so bad.
Is that close?
I don't think I'll ever get hard again.
It's not close.
Jesus Christ, man.
So that's just insane.
Let's think about what he just said there, right?
So, all right, the flag burning issue is a settled issue, right? Like we have a constitutional right to burn the flag.
It's free speech.
It's been settled.
So now it's like he just wants to fucking upturn that apple cart as if he even can. Yeah. Right. Which he can't,
but I guess a case he could, he could bring up another amendment. He could bring up an amendment
that's not going to help, or, you know, he could bring the issue up so that somebody shepherds a
case through the Supreme court again, I guess maybe, but then this insanity, this piece of
insanity, if they do, there must be consequences.
And I love his potential consequences.
My favorite part.
Yeah.
Perhaps loss of citizenship.
Yeah.
Or year in jail.
That's like, that's like, well, what do I get to pick?
Like, well, first of all, we don't strip people of their citizenship.
I know we talked about a little bit about it.
We'll talk about Dan Errol.
There's a possibility that you do for certain crimes, but they're few and far between.
Right.
Like, you can commit treason.
Yeah.
Like, you can actually commit actual treason.
And not be stripped.
And you don't get stripped.
You can be a child murderer, right?
Yeah.
Like, name the worst thing.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not like before we killed Gacy.
Right.
He killed 42 young boys and fucking strangled them, fucked them, and buried them in his
fucking basement.
He still died an American citizen.
Exactly. Before they stuck the fucking
juice in him, they didn't look at him
and be like, by the way, you're not an American citizen anymore.
And they pulled a fucking American flag
badge off of him and they stuck him full
of poison. No, he died
an American citizen. It's not like
Sons of Anarchy where you still have your tattoo
and they burn it off of you.
They should have had the tattoo on Gacy, on a giant American flag, and then burn it off of him.
They could capture a guy.
We're going to get an email and be like, that's cruel and unusual punishment, guys.
You know, we have an amendment that says we can't.
I know, it's a joke, it's a joke, it's all a joke.
What is wrong with you people?
I do want to say, though, that I think that this is a smokescreen.
I do not think that he is doing this on purpose so that people will—he doesn't care about this.
What he cares about is making the protesters look like jerks.
How do you make the protesters look like jerks?
Burn a bunch of flags so you look un-American.
How do you get them to burn a bunch of flags?
Tell them you hate it a lot.
Oh, God, I think that's probably good strategy.
Just tell them you hate it a lot.
You've got to give them this.
He's a good strategizer.
Exactly.
His strategizing is pretty solid.
Instead, just go get a Confederate flag and say,
this represents you more anyway, bro.
Oh, that's a good idea.
That's a great idea.
Burn the fuck out of the Confederate flags.
Burn those Confederate flags.
Fucking wrap it into a fucking vagina and fuck it and cum in it.
That's what you should do first.
Just because that's what happened to the South when the North took them.
We wrapped them around our cock and we fucked them and we came in them.
We came in them and then we burnt it down.
It's really hard to burn once you've come in it, though, isn't it?
Well, it depends on how much semen you have in there.
Fucking juicy.
Yeah, it could be a little juicy.
You can just use an accelerant.
Actually, that whole experience sounds really weird and unpleasant.
I'm still game.
I'm still good at this.
As long as it talks like a southern bell, I guess.
Can we get a silk flag so it's nice and smooth and not chafey?
It's got to be smooth.
I'd be worried, like, oh, man, that's chafey yeah you catch it catch the edge of a star wrong 35 seconds in that thing
i got a grommet oh god i hit the grommet fuck actually that's where i put it
yeah i guess i mean that's about it's used to a quarter inch string so i had plenty of room
i invited a friend we met in the middle.
No, but seriously, that's what I think he's doing.
I think he specifically wrote this thing. We finger-cuffed America?
And for the United States of America to put the power of the federal government
and all of its money and resources behind this transgender movement,
it is just nothing short of insanity.
So this story comes from the Patheos blog,
specifically the Friendly Atheist blog.
Homeschooling Christian mother can't handle
her son seeing a male cover
girl.
Evidently a chola cover girl,
by the way. My goodness.
I don't know.
It's like caterpillars on the face there.
Those are some eyebrows. I'll tell you what. That looks real.
Give me the big picture again. Look at that. That is real. I've never seen anything look. Those are some eyebrows. I'll tell you what. That looks real. Give me the big picture again.
Look at that.
That is real.
I've never seen anything look more real than those eyebrows.
Yeah.
So whatever.
So there's this guy, and evidently he's on Instagram or something,
and he's a makeup artist.
And he paints himself up to look all Purdy-like.
And CoverGirl was like, yeah, great.
Be on our ad.
Yeah.
And so they had him on the ad, right?
Yeah.
And there's
no story there. Who cares? Actually, there is kind of a story there. I was in the other room
the other night. I was away. My wife was watching TV and I heard her say, oh, that's awesome.
And I stopped and I was like, what? And she's like, watch this commercial.
Oh, and it was this?
It was this commercial.
Ha! That's awesome.
That's awesome. How inclusive. How cool yeah there's yeah so there's the story so there's some people out
there who see this this person on this cover girl commercial and they're like wow how neat is that
they are being inclusive just like when um uh when there's you know a gay couple on an insurance
commercial or something right you're like oh wow, that's novel because it's starting to become accepted.
Right.
Well, let me read what this mom wrote on her blog or what have you.
I want to read this.
I'm anxious to hear it.
My son watched this commercial while I wasn't paying any attention.
Because it was just a CoverGirl commercial, I didn't think I would need to cover the screen.
That's weird right there, right?
Could you imagine the mom's like holding...
Oh, my God!
Oh, my God!
She wants to get some on TV! She's just got like a screen cover. Moving her arms as fast as she can
to try to cover. She's covering his eyes. Don't look, don't look. Yeah. There's a side boob. Yeah,
all right. I'm gonna, okay, that's, mom, just get out of the, mom, it's 2016. I can go to my
friend's house with the internet. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Like, you're not hiding me from a CoverGirl commercial.
The shit I've seen, mom.
The shit I've seen.
You don't know where I've been, Lou.
Once you have the internet, it's like all bets are off.
Someone is fisting a mule.
Right?
And you're bored.
That's the thing.
You're just like, scroll, scroll, scroll.
What else is on Reddit?
It's like scroll, scroll, scroll. What else is on Reddit?
We are at an age where a cover girl ad on TV, you're just like, yeah, no.
You're going to need to do a lot more for me than that.
Unless Katy Perry is fucking Yoda, I don't even care at this point.
It's like I don't even care.
How many tentacles does this cover girl ad have?
It's not six.
And if their tentacles don't look like perfect little lashes, I'm not looking.
I'm not even going to look anymore.
Okay, so she didn't cover the screen.
Yeah, right.
I was preoccupied speaking with David, my husband.
Both of us were caught off guard.
Hey, hey, your partner.
Come on now.
Both of us were caught off guard. We didn't know how to answer.
I don't know why, but the most logical thing we could logical,
that is a fucking word. She should just excise from her vocabulary.
Right. But the most logical we could think of, think of at that moment,
that's crazy was to say, no, that's a girl.
The commercial come on a second time, but undeniably it's a guy.
Now we knew we had to talk about it.
Dun, dun, dun.
And that's their problem.
I was thinking about this article, right?
Like what they're mad about is the two parts that matter, right,
is covering the screen, shit, now I got to talk about it.
So I'm trying to raise my kid in a bubble, right?
I'm trying to raise my kid.
I need to curate the world for my child.
Right.
And look, you know, we all do that to some degree, right?
Like I don't let my kids coming up on 10, right?
So I don't let them watch a lot of X-rated porn.
Like I really limit his porn time to no more than two to three hours a day.
You can only watch
Pizza Man porn.
It's just the sausage
delivery guy.
That's all he gets to watch.
Well, there's a hole
in the pizza.
He's 10,
so I make him watch
porn with a story.
He's got to write
a book report.
And they all live
happily ever after after they got coat hanger abortions.
Okay, so this is what happens when a man and a woman and a woman and a woman and a woman and another man, two midgets, all love each other very much.
For a half an hour.
For a half an hour.
Yeah.
That sounds like Game of Thrones porn, actually.
Fast forward through the story.
Game of Bones. Game of Bones.
Game of Bones.
Somebody's going to send us the Game of Bones.
It's like, all right, all right, here's the meat, cute,
and his pants are off.
Great, all right, here we go.
And onward.
You only show him censored porn stories,
so he thinks all literature is garbage.
He's like, this is dead.
TV's the worst.
I want to watch people play video games.
Yeah, right.
So she wants him to grow video games. Yeah, right.
So she wants him to grow up in this bubble, right? She wants to curate the world for him.
Aren't these the same people, though, that are, like, so anti-safe space?
I mean, you know what I mean?
I don't know.
You know, like, when you think about this sort of pushback to what, quote, unquote, PC culture, aren't these people like, oh, man, these fucking babies in the university, they need their fucking Play-Doh, blah, blah, blah, but I got to cover my kid's eyes because
he might see a trans person.
There very well might be overlap there, right?
Right.
Yeah, I think that there very well might be overlap.
But this whole idea that just seeing a trans person, what does she think is going to happen?
I don't know.
I mean, that's the thing.
It's like, I know, all jokes aside, I don't actually let my 10-year-old watch a whole lot of pornography, right?
Right, yeah.
Because I know, like, there's actually pretty good research that pornography at a young age, not real good for kids.
Sure.
So, you know, ultraviolence, not real good for kids.
So I'm not going to let them watch that shit because I know that there's effects, right?
What am I going to, like, what's the side effect?
What's the negative here, right?
If my 10-year-old sees a boy wearing makeup and it's like what's the deal i'll be like he's a boy
who wears makeup and my kids gonna be like i don't care what's markiplier playing on youtube he won't
care at all he won't care at all there's no conversation there's no controversy yeah my
household does not erupt into chaos like the turkey's burning in the oven. The cranberries are fucking on fire.
Everybody's dead.
It's fucking botulism.
None of this stuff is happening.
Instead, everybody just looks around and is like, I don't know.
Do you want more ice cream?
It's a non-issue.
Nobody cares.
The reason why it becomes an issue is because you made it an issue.
Right.
You're suddenly putting so much gravity on this moment.
I'm not going to fucking backseat parenting.
You want to fucking, you know, tell your kid that this is evil.
The quote from the article specifically quote, it says, this is sinful and wrong.
He shouldn't be doing that.
And his parents are wrong.
Now, that's a quote from the original article.
It's not from the Patheos.
You have to actually click through to find the original article.
But from the original article, it's like, and the thing is, the thing is like like what did his parents do his makeup in the morning
you know it doesn't look young enough to to be around his parents it's so outrageous it's
ridiculous but you know you know who else wears fucking makeup everybody on tv everybody on tv
every guy in hollywood fucking cal drago from fucking Game of Thrones wears fucking guyliner.
That guy makes every girl squirt within a five mile radius.
Like they walk by him and they're just like sploosh.
Yeah, this fucking this guy's got guyliner on.
He's the manliest guy in the world.
He'll impregnate you from across the room and he wears guyline.
You know what I mean?
Like, OK, well, right.
You know, you just can't be like talking about, you know, you, you just can't be like talking
about, you know, these tiny little gender roles you have for everybody. Nobody fits in your little
box. Everybody's different. Everybody fits in this, in this, you know, broad spectrum of sexuality
and gender. And we all define ourselves differently. And, you know, for you to just come
out and be like, no, there's only this and that's it.
How do you not see that as closed-minded?
How do you not see that as I'm limiting my child?
How do you not see that as just also none of your damn business?
That's the other thing, right?
It's clearly none of your business.
It's clearly none of your business.
Fucking none, y'all.
I just stopped. It's not like he's choking on a fucking 14 inch dildo on TV.
Exactly right.
If he was just like everybody should be fucking dudes.
You'd be like OK that's a little weird.
I have no idea about his sexuality.
All I know is that he wore makeup.
I have no idea about his sexuality.
Exactly.
And that's the other thing that they don't understand right is that just because this is somebody biologically male who in this picture or this commercial is wearing makeup that's
indicative of females right has nothing to do with their gender identity necessarily and nothing to
do with their sexual identity but that but like these people don't understand and they don't want
to understand and that's the whole point they would rather cover up the tv than understand
something yeah they would rather hide they would rather not have the conversation than have the
conversation yeah that's insane.
Well, I mean you can raise your kid how you want, but you've got to understand, I think, that the child itself is going to be suffering because they're not going to be ready for a world.
Right. your kid that is not readying him for a world in which he is going to be able to understand
the spectrum of sexuality and gender like he should.
Right.
Your kid has to adapt to the world.
The world will not adapt to your kids.
Yeah.
I keep asking it to, and it won't.
In the name of Jesus, we speak that. I'm put on a feeling
I'm high on believing
So this story is from the BBC News.
This is the men who claim to be Africa's miracle workers.
And this is actually kind of just a list of these fucking lunatics.
And this week kind of circulating all over the place was a South African pastor who calls...
I can't help it.
...who's currently macing one of his fucking...
I can't help it.
...one of his fucking congregants right now in this picture.
He calls people up.
He calls people up to heal them by spraying insecticide in their faces.
And you know what the name of the insecticide that he uses is?
Doom.
I'm totally not kidding.
It's fucking Doom.
He sprays Doom in their face. He doesn't even spray it. Like, this is poison. It's fucking doom. He sprays doom in their face.
He doesn't even spray it like this is poison.
It's poison.
And he's not like spraying it like misty misty like near them.
It's not like a potpourri spritz.
He sprays that shit right in their face.
This fucking image.
She is getting essentially a bukkake from this sprayer.
It's like someone opened up the fire hose
dude it's so much she's got to share it with a friend exactly she's got to scrape it off into
a champagne glass after she's done and it's an extreme you never trust a man who sprays something
called doom in your face it's like that's what i named my cock, don't trust it if it sprays in your face.
At least without a warning.
You could give a warning.
I used to call it bang, but then people were calling me the little bang.
And I was like, no.
That's wrong.
They're like, chitty, chitty, bang, bang.
And I was like, no.
Don't make it cute.
It's doom now.
Say hello to Dr. Doom.
They're like, where is it?
It's out. It's out. It's currently out right now. No, to Dr. Doom. They're like, where is it? I got it. Where is it? It's out.
It's out.
It's currently out right now.
No, it's right there.
I got a PhD in getting it out.
This isn't the only one.
It's an honorary PhD.
It is.
From an online school.
I got it from upstairs medical college.
Oh, God.
But this isn't the only one.
There's a whole epidemic of these fucking moves.
We talked about the guy who turned petrol into pineapple juice.
Well, he didn't really, though.
He just fed people gasoline.
No, really.
He's just like, nope.
That's a fuel.
That's not how you...
A life.
That's not how you be alive.
You can't do that with hydrocarbons.
How you feeling?
I don't know.
A little dead.
And then isn't this the same guy who made them eat grass?
He's just like, the grass is amazing.
But the best one is the best picture.
It's the last picture.
This picture here where they're all got...
Okay, so there's a picture here.
It's the third picture down.
This guy has a bottle in his hand, but if you replaced it with a dildo and then all these girls are essentially on their knees with their mouth open around him.
I've seen this before.
Right.
This is like –
I've seen – there's like Japanese ones like that.
You wouldn't believe.
The bachelorette party got a little crazy.
Like, no, it didn't.
That's not ever happened.
But my favorite one is the snake pastor,
where he claims that he turns the snakes into chocolate
and then he feeds people snakes.
And then they eat snakes.
The snakes aren't chocolate.
They're snakes.
It's so funny.
It's so funny.
You've got to be fucked up.
You've got to be so fucked up.
You're just like, all right, it's a chocolate.
It's a chocolate.
It's just biting your face.
It's real bitey chocolate.
This chocolate's got some snap to it.
You're crunching on this fucking.
And there's a picture of this motherfucker eating a snake.
Well, that's the thing.
It's like you've got to bite through the bones and the gristle.
It's like a live sea salt.
Yeah, exactly.
Like you bite into a live animal.
It's chocolate.
What the fuck is wrong with you that is not chocolate that is a snake
you're like you can pick up i mean it's a it's a chocolate snake that lays cadbury eggs
there is a moment where don't you think these people are just fucking with people like i wonder
what i can get them to do.
It's almost like all these pastors are friends.
They're having a bet.
Oh, yeah.
I bet I'm going to get them to eat gasoline.
I bet I can spray fucking doom in their faces.
Motherfucker, I'll make that bitch eat a snake.
I'll make him eat a snake.
I'm going to introduce you to my snake.
His name is Mr. Goodbar.
That's the other thing, right?
Like, if I'm going to make you do something fun, it's not be a spray and suck the side of your face and make you eat a snake i mean i'll make i may make you touch a snake to your mouth right you know snake i call him mr doom worms
and then the other the last one is a pastor who was healing erectile dysfunction which really
meant that he just wanted to grab the junk of all the guys and the pastor and the person,
because all he did was just walk around.
I mean, there's a picture of him cupping someone's balls.
So he clearly, all he wanted to do was just cup someone's balls or cup a lot of people's balls.
Right. Well, in the same guy, there's pictures of the same guy praying over dudes with their dicks out.
Yeah, exactly.
He's just a gay dude who wants to fondle people. That's all it is. He's just fondling dudes. And then the last one is a guy who, um, wanted to fondle a woman who had breast cancer.
Oh God, I just reached in and be like, I'm healing this real slow.
Does this feel healed? Because it's working for me.
Hey, can you bring that oil over here? I want to anoint it.
Well, they do that.
Exactly.
That's exactly what they did.
I'm going to grope you.
Hang on.
I need lube to grope you differently.
I've seen that movie.
If you need lube to grope her differently, she's not into it.
Also, it makes her real slick.
She gets away too easy.
It's like wrestling
with a buttered pig. You tie him up first.
You tie him. You truss him. I see what you did.
I see what you did there, Tom.
You kidnap someone.
It's like a congregant ducking.
You truss him up.
Is there a smaller congregant inside of them?
Tom.
Yeah. Can we talk for a second about rubber dicks?
Again? Yeah.
It's a conversation
we need to have every once in a while.
We just had this conversation
right before and after lunch.
Yeah.
It's a conversation
we keep having. We do.
And the reason why is...
Because you get one 50% off
by going to AdamandEve.com.
It'll go 100% in.
But it's 50%
off. Yeah, right. Well, 50% is about
as far as I can get them off, typically, without
the rubber dick.
I'm halfway there. I'm fucking all the way there.
Spent. Actually, yeah, I'm going
to go watch YouTube. Done and done.
Here, I bought this on adamandeve.com.
Finish up.
I'm sweaty.
This seems like a lot of work.
Right now, if you type in glory at checkout, you'll get 50% off.
Almost any item.
Almost any item.
It's not every item.
There's a few excluded items.
There's excluded stuff.
But about 50% off on anything.
And then you'll also get free shipping.
And they'll give you some free stuff.
And all you have to do is type in Gloria at checkout.
And who doesn't want to type in Gloria at checkout?
You know, Cecil, I've taken to typing Glory every time I check out somewhere just to see what happens.
I actually just grabbed the cashier and just screamed Glory in their face.
The other thing about this, too, is that it's reusable. Like a rubber
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it over and over and over again. Just think of Glory like
the lube. You put the lube
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But you can check them out at adamany.com.
You can type in Glory at checkout.
Get some free stuff.
Have some fun.
You know, at the same time, you're getting a little bit off,
and you're getting a lot off.
A lot off.
This story is from the Daily News, the New York Daily News.
I'm sorry.
Planned Parenthood has received more than 50,000 donations
in Mike Pence's name.
And I actually think this is kind of great.
I think this is awesome.
Mike Pence has been a vocal, outspoken critic of all things good.
And Planned Parenthood.
Yes.
Specifically Planned Parenthood, right?
All things good, but then very specifically he's closed down Planned Parenthood.
Oh no, he's a monster.
In Indiana, we talked about a story about Pence
who closed him down in a section of
Indiana and wound up
actually increasing the
amount of sexually
transmitted diseases and
removing a clean needle program
that they had set up specifically for that.
I mean, he's done horrible things.
The effects of this are demonstrable and measurable
and they're not good. Yeah. Nobody wins. Nobody's like horrible things. The effects of this are demonstrable and measurable, and they're not good.
Nobody wins. Nobody's like,
high five, I got an STD.
No one's like, hey, I got a gonorrhea.
Praise Jesus. I don't know.
Give me a G.
Give me an A. Give me an N.
Give me a T. Ibotics. Oh my god,
I need antibiotics.
It hurts so bad, right, B?
It's like razor blades in this thing.
Yeah, but they're donating.
It says Planned Parenthood has received more than 50,000 donations.
That's so much.
That's amazing.
And this is the time.
We talked about this in the 100 Days episode.
This is the time for the private sector, right?
The government probably, under a Republican Congress, a Republican president, a Republican House, they're probably going to defund Planned Parenthood, right?
This is our chance.
We've got to step up and make sure it survives, right?
So Planned Parenthood is an important thing that needs to be funded, and it needs to be funded by the private sector because the government is probably not going to be giving it a lot of money in the future.
Even though none of the money that the government gives it goes to abortions.
It doesn't matter.
They think it's a fucking abortion mill like that idiot on fucking jim baker said and so what you have is a uh a
non-for-profit organization that that helps tons of people every year that could really be in dire
straits if it's not if it's not for us and women are and women and men are going out of their way
to send planned parenthood money for this.
And one of the things that struck me was Sarah and I were having a conversation
about sort of the consequences of sex when you're a young adult, right?
And it's something that I know I never really thought of, right?
The consequences for sex for me were never so out in the open.
You know what I mean?
Wait, there's consequences for sex?
When Sarah was having sex with other people when she was a kid, she was making sure that
she had birth control.
Sure, right.
But it was something that her parents never told her about.
She had to figure out on her own, you know, those sorts of things.
I've seen in my life a couple, maybe three or four young girls get pregnant, keep the baby.
They were ambitious students, had good lives ahead of them.
They were almost certainly going to be doing something else other than being a mom at a young age.
They had plans to do something else.
It's a life-changing event.
But it is a life-changing event for those
girls. And I'm not saying
that they're living a lesser life now or that it's
a bad thing that they're parents,
but they changed their life direction
based on one sex act.
You know what I mean? That whole course
of everything changed
because they had sex one time.
God, you have to hope it was good. Probably wasn't.
I know. That's the bummer.
Because they're young and guys don't got no skills, right?
Selfish.
I don't have a lot of skills now.
I mean, I got to be honest.
I don't know what to tell you.
I always sub in another guy.
You're in.
You're in.
It's been 12 seconds.
I'm done.
Jesus.
Tag, you're in.
But it really has changed the scope of their lives and as a guy it's hard for me to contend with that because i don't know i
wouldn't know what that's like right i wouldn't know what it's like to have one sex act defined
and change your entire life and they have to live that and And so Planned Parenthood is one of those places
that women can go for birth control at a low price
and it's effective birth control, right?
It's effective all the time,
98% or something with the pill, right?
98%.
And then with condoms, it's lower.
And they have a chance to, uh, to live a life that is,
that has sex that's consequence free, wherein they don't have that if they don't have any options.
Sure. And that's really important. I think it's really important. It was one of those places that,
you know, really strikes me just for the, just for the preventative. We're just talking about
birth control here. We're not talking about anything else that they do and they do a lot, but we're just talking about birth control here. We're not talking about anything else that they do, and they do a lot, but we're just talking about birth
control here, and that's really important for young girls and young men to have access to that
stuff so that they can make the decision to start a family rather than to be forced in that decision
just by, you know. Yeah. I got to say, too, relevant to this article, I love when people donate money in the name of an organization or in the name of somebody to an organization like this.
So what I mean is like when you donate to something like Planned Parenthood in Mike Pence's name, that's a really great way.
That's a really effective way to leverage your protest, right?
Absolutely.
I think this is a wonderful way to protest.
This is a violent protest, and I love it.
I love it. They're stopping ambulances like crazy. Right? This is effective,
right? Because you've made change in the world with your dollar. Absolutely. Right? Yes. And you've gotten your voice heard by doing this thing with Mike Pence. Yeah. So you're protesting.
This is a great way. Great point. To do this. Yeah.
So this story comes from The Guardian.
This is fucking awful. Saudi court sentences poet to death for renouncing Islam.
That's terrible.
I would, though, however, agree if you wrote something as bad as, say, the Skeptic's Creed.
Ouch.
You know what I mean?
If it was that bad, then I agree. I have to admit, as a poet, I think he's just lucky to get some attention.
At the end of it, the Sharia judges are snapping.
He's just like looking around like they're about to cut his head off.
He's like, yeah, you fucking read it.
It's weird because over here,
the Christian fundamentalists are very different than the Saudi Muslim fundamentalists
because over there, they give you lashes, and over here, we're horrified by lashes.
Right, by the cover girl.
We're horrified by them.
So the fundamentalists, I think, disagree on that one point.
Right, that's their major point of disagreement.
They're either pro or anti-lashes.
Right, yeah, exactly, exactly.
Lashes on guys, in Saudi Arabia,
you'll get...
So this Palestinian guy,
Jesus Christ.
He's like,
he's just a guy who writes things down.
He's just a dude. He wrote some things.
That's the thing. There's nothing you can
write down on a piece of paper.
There's no words in any order.
Right, that you can do that's like, yeah, that should cost a man their life.
Are you kidding me?
Or we should whip them, we should beat them, we should jail them.
It's words on paper.
If you don't like it, you just don't read it.
There's lots of poetry I don't like.
Most of it I wrote!
And I don't encourage people to read it!
I don't either. I really don't encourage people to read it. I don't either.
I don't.
I really don't.
Most of it.
You know, but it's like, that's crazy.
You took an art form nobody even cares about anymore.
Nobody even cares.
It's like an open mic Sharia night.
Right?
You just can only read really loudly from the Quran.
If you go to Poets Market now and you open it up, it doesn't have
a Saudi Arabia section, I'll tell you that.
You know what you should do? What? You remember the poems
where you wrote it and you
took it from a page? You should
do that with the Quran.
I will get killed. Do it.
Okay. I will get killed.
You should write, and you should
and you should buy
a Quran and you should cut out each word.
I can't even hear you.
I'm not doing that.
Okay, that's a great idea, though.
And put it on a piece of paper.
Paste it.
Fucking murder mystery note style on a piece of paper.
So like a sento.
A sento.
That's what I call a sento.
A Koran sento. A sento. That's what they call it. A sento. Right. But only created from each page
and every letter, every word has
to be cut out and placed in order
and pasted to a new page.
Can we use your name? Yes.
I will get killed so
bad. I've been, oh.
You've been alive for a long time. I'm actually not
kidding. That actually makes me nervous. Like, I
think that that might cause me
to be
murdered.
You should do it. I might
still do it, but I have to check my insurance
policy.
Well, somebody's definitely not going to insure
you now. Oh, man. You should make sure
it's okay now, because just
like ACA, you're not going to be able to get
existing coverage
after you do
something horrifying hello i'd like the large bloated and fucks with islamic fundamentalist
plan hello yeah hello no no one's answering what's my premium a million dollars do it anonymously
even though everybody who listens to show note was you but even still do it anonymously
and then you can always deny it yeah i wasn't wasn't. Yeah, I'm sure that'll work
when they're coming out with machetes. It wasn't me. It wasn't me. They would have heard that
before. As long as you keep doing your overhead squats, you'll be fine. I'll be all right.
Look, if it's one dude, I'm fine. If it's a bunch of dudes with machetes or bombs or bombs,
or in this country, lots of guns, lots of guns, I'm probably not okay it's a bunch of dudes with machetes. Or bombs. Or bombs. Or in this country, lots of guns. Or lots
of guns, I'm probably not okay.
You want answers? I think I'm entitled.
You want answers! I want the truth!
You can't handle the truth!
This story comes from the Friendly Atheist blogs over
at Patheos. This is Jim Baker, Cecil.
Oh, yeah. He's got buckets
to sell, motherfucker. Wait,
isn't the world going to be fine now?
Well, you know, here's the thing. God's got some punishing to do for motherfucker. Wait, isn't the world going to be fine now? Well, you know, here's the thing.
God's got some punishing to do for people.
No matter what.
It's not like God's going to run out of punishing.
Right.
Like, I got a whole bucket of punishing,
and I'm not going to be done until I'm labeling it all out on all y'all.
It's a whole bucket of punishing.
And you can buy those buckets for only $19.99.
There's a 60-day supply of punishings.
It's just full of
whips to flagellate
yourself like you buy it. Rusty
nails. Right?
Mouse traps to pinch your nipples with. Glass.
Ow, fuck. What? Jesus.
It's like tar
that's on fire.
Every bucket you open up has like a weird thing in it.
One that's like a rat attacks you just on the face.
And then inexplicably one's just full of cotton balls for no reason.
You're just like, what do I do with this?
It just says like a note from God, be creative.
You're like, fuck.
All right, stuck them in your nose.
I don't know.
All right, they go into the head of my fuck. All right, stuck them in your nose. I don't know. All right, they go into the head of my dick.
All right, so here's Jim Banks.
First Amendment gives you the right to protest in a peaceable way.
Whenever you're throwing rocks at people,
whenever you're beating people up,
whenever you're stealing their cars,
whenever you're setting places on fire,
whenever you're throwing rocks through people's windshields,
this is not a peaceful protest.
Now, I do just want to give a, they call them that.
They do call them peaceful.
They're saying, oh, we're having peaceful protest.
Anytime anybody burns a car, throws stones through bank windows, or anything like that, or injures another person, they need to be arrested.
They are arrested.
That's a thing that's already happening.
That's against the law.
Nobody's not arresting people that throw rocks.
They're like, oh, you're a protester?
Okay, go ahead.
Oh, I didn't know you were protesting.
Oh, okay.
Oh, you hurt somebody?
You punched somebody in the face?
Oh, you were just protesting.
Oh, okay.
These people get arrested if you fucking break the law.
Yeah.
There are no special rules in the protest zone called here are the cars.
They don't set up burning cars, right?
Here's three junkers we got you guys can fuck those up all you want they're like the prom cars you see every year prom when they're like don't drink and drive for the prom right and they they
like the dare vehicles they confiscate they're like the carnival cars that you go and beat on
with a sledgehammer although i don't i haven't seen that in long time. That was when I was a kid they used to do that.
They used to pay. Oh, you've never seen
this? So you could pay
a certain dollar amount to get several
swings with a hammer, like a
sledgehammer on a car.
So there would be a car there
just to hit the car with a sledgehammer.
And so you could walk up and be like,
I would like to pay to hit the car. And then you pay him
three dollars and then you get three swings with a sledgehammer and so you could walk up and be like i would like to pay to hit the car and then you pay them three dollars and then you get three swings with the sledgehammer i feel like i'd
bring a paycheck i feel like i would fuck that thing up i'll be like here's a bad day you'd be
like i got three hundred dollars i would like my 300 swings right i am gonna fuck this thing in
two i would be like actually time me because this is a workout for everybody just i i've got time
i've got money i am am an anger. I am
and I'll fuck this thing up. I brought like four
guys from my gym. They're going to tag in
when I'm tired for
my swings. Yeah, we
need to say no now.
No more. No more what?
No more protesting. Fuck you.
That's what America is all about. Douchebag.
More buckets, though.
I believe he's going to say more buckets.
The people on our side aren't for the fucking violence,
except for a couple twats on Facebook where, like,
you've got to kill people or whatever.
People who are pro-violence are wrong.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm sorry.
You're just wrong.
Like, if you have a pro-violence stance, you're a fucking idiot.
You're just wrong about you're just wrong about
that yeah yeah like the president that you didn't like got elected so violence like what no that's
fucking you are this is not something we need to have a nuanced conversation about i don't they're
not marching for the reason why they're not marching because the president got elected
they're marching to i think they're Nobody's marching the verdict of the election.
I think people are marching,
at least as far as I've talked to these people,
they're marching to show the president
that they're not going away.
That they don't approve of his policy.
They don't approve,
and they're not going away.
I think those are the two major reasons
why people are...
We are going to have,
and I wrote it down,
if we're not careful,
we're going to have civil war.
That's right.
You wrote that down?
So you wouldn't forget your one sentence?
Your one sentence to drive people to buckets, though.
Right.
I mean, like, what, you wrote your marketing plan down?
Great.
Did you fucking put it in a binder?
Did you send it to Kinko's?
He just wrote down Ken Burns.
That's all he wrote.
I want you to see this.
So can you see that, ma'am?
I probably shouldn't say this.
Look at that, everybody.
Wow.
Amazing.
I wrote it down.
Wow.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Okay, what you see on this map, they're showing a map.
It's a map of the United States with blue and red.
I'm not sure that this is particularly accurate.
I have no idea whether or not this map is accurate showing where people voted for Trump and where people voted for Hillary.
But there's very little blue on it.
But if you look, the blue is all over all the population centers.
I was going to say.
So a lot of open space voted for Trump and a lot of people voted for Hillary.
And it turns out more people voted for Hillary than for Trump. So you could show this all fucking day, but I don't see at the bottom.
And Trump lost by two million votes in all of the shitty pig farm and corn goblin states.
Yeah, exactly.
Voted for Trump.
All those sectors of the United States where fucking you get shit on your shoes.
Yeah, that's where they voted for Trump.
All the places where you know
you actually have to like have a sidewalk all those places are blue yeah if there's an edge
if you can find somebody with an education yeah if you're within 10 miles of a college
exactly right and it's not hamburger university university. Tom's got a full mouthful
of water right now and he's
trying not to spit it all over the microphone.
It's fizzy water
too. It can't go in your fucking nose.
You're screwed, man.
Hamburger you.
There you go. I love it.
County by county.
You see, that picture right there
is just a testament that the media
are a bunch of liars.
You, first of all.
What the fuck are you talking about? The media's
a bunch of liars.
Because open
fucking space, tumbleweeds
voted for Trump, that's why?
It's fucking desert garbage
land in between those places.
Have you have you no
shit got on a fucking road
between here and champagne
or here and fucking St. Louis?
There's nothing there. There's nothing. There's nothing.
It's like a fucking road. It's fucking
walking dead out there, man.
No walking dead would imply people
that would be a human once in a while
or a former human. Exactly. You would would be a human once in a while. Or a former human. Yeah, exactly.
You would actually be in better shape in terms of the brain capacity if you saw the walking dead.
Seriously, once you get out of Chicago and area.
South of I-80, you could throw bombs out of your car as you drive.
And nobody would notice.
And they wouldn't hit anything important.
And we're talking you could do that for 120 miles.
Easily.
And you wouldn't hit a city the entire
way you don't hit a city from when you leave joliet until you arrive in bloomington you don't
hit a fucking city and if you do it's a gas station city yeah i have driven i've driven top
to bottom in the state and i've driven top to bottom in one day like well not top to bottom but
chicago all the way to the bottom and back in a day.
And I remember coming back on one trip
thinking, like, I'll stop anywhere.
Like, the next thing that I see,
just driving, I'm going to pull over.
If it was a car dealership,
I would have bought a new car.
I was like, I'm just so bored.
I need something to do.
I don't care.
I'll fucking kill a hooker.
It makes no difference to me.
You would do that anyway. I would hurt her. You'd do that when you're not bored. I would hurt her. I wouldn't kill her. I don't care. I'll fucking kill a hooker. It makes no difference to me. You would do that anyway.
You do that when you're not bored. I would hurt her.
I wouldn't kill her. I'm a gentleman.
Outrageous. Outrageous.
I never know what to tip.
I was driving, though.
You can't even make a bad
decision. You can't even
make a bad decision. The only thing between
here and there is fucking Casey's General Store.
Exactly. Casey's Junction of Westbrook. Casey's General Store. Exactly. That's all there is. Casey's Junction
of Westford. Casey's General Store with fucking
you know, like roller pizza. Right.
The worst decision you can make is like,
I guess I'll eat some cherry sours and beef jerky.
That's it. It's seriously. It's a
calorically bad decision. Between here and
Bloomington and then it's the same thing
until you get to Springfield and then it's the same
thing until you get to, there's like four cities
and they're all like a hundred miles apart.
Cities! It's an outrageous use
of that term, sir. Like Bloomington's as big
as Naperville, maybe? Maybe? And it's got
a college in it? You know what I mean? It's probably smaller,
but like, you know, it's got
a, you know, it's a
population center, right?
So it is an actual city. You drive
right through, but it's like you drive through, there's
nothing. And you could drive on the – I drove down.
I could drive straight down the state route too.
And the little tiny shit towns they take you through there are all little garbage.
They're fucking a thousand people at most.
It's all nobody.
It's nobody that's out there voting.
You could show that space as red, but it's actually ground that's red out there.
It's not human beings.
Right. Well, think about when we go up to Michigan to go shooting, and you go up to Michigan, it's a five-hour
drive, and you drive through nothing
forever, right? Like, you come
up, you go past Grand Rapids. Once you're past
Grand Rapids, there's nothing. There's nothing. It's just
trees. There's not even people
living amongst the trees. They're not even
farming it. The land is so
useless, they're not even farming it. They don is so useless, they're not even farming it.
They don't do anything.
They're just like, I don't care.
Let it just fucking go to waste.
And we fire a cannon.
We've had cannons, literal cannons, and nobody comes to see what that was.
That's how unpopulated most of this country is.
You can drive through tons of space, but look at each one of those centers.
Look at each one of those counties where there's people, where there's human beings, where there's
a mass of human beings, they all went
blue.
The red
is the
votes for Trump.
The red is
the GOP.
The grand old party. There they
are. Now, that's where
it is right now. They're still counting ballots.
Yeah.
You know, it doesn't make any difference.
Right.
Hillary's resigned.
It's in the bank.
You know, it's done.
You know.
But here's the thing.
If you live in the blue, put it back on the screen.
If you live in the blue, any spot that's blue, I would say, oh, God.
Oh, God.
Help me.
Help California and Arizona.
Oh, God.
Oh, my God.
Forgive me.
Oh, forgive us.
Why is he just repeating everything he says?
Forgive us?
Forgive us for voting differently.
For voting differently.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Holy shit, man.
Here it comes, man.
Are you fucking differently. Yeah. Oh, man. Holy shit, man. Here it comes, man.
Are you fucking serious?
And again, though, of course they are, because they've been calling Hillary a demon forever, right? Oh, yeah.
They've been calling Obama a demon.
Anybody who's a Democrat is a demon to them.
Yeah.
God cares very much about all his people, but mostly he cares about his Republican people.
But mostly he cares about his Republican people.
And mostly he cares about his American people.
Because clearly God's not punishing the fucking dictatorial regime of North Korea.
Sure, yeah.
He did punish Phil Castro, though, recently. He did?
Punish him after 90 years?
I was busy.
I was busy.
I had biscuits and gravy I wanted to get to eating.
And I didn't have time to punish Fidel Castro for all those
crimes against humanity.
I punished him 12 years after
the natural lifespan of a man.
I got to it in my own time.
I let him live extra long.
Wait, no, that's backwards.
I should have killed him 12 years
earlier. All right, Gabriel, put that
on the board.
That's my oopsie.
We'll know next time.
I'll kill one of them other Castros quicker.
It'll be like the oil.
You just keep having to recycle them over and over and over again.
Get me a new Castro.
Dale Earnhardt needs a new Castro.
No, I said Castro, not Castrol.
That's different. Oh, I'm sorry needs a new Castro. No, I said Castro, not Castrol. That's different.
Oh, I'm sorry.
5W Castro.
Yeah, I guess, you know, like if they're demonizing these people.
And the thing I do want to point out, too, is all the people who keep sending us messages after they listen to the show and they're mad that we're making fun of Trump.
You agree with these people.
Like you're on their side.
I just want you to know you're on Jim Baker's bucket side.
So you're on his side.
So enjoy that.
Enjoy being on the side of the bobblehead
who's saying,
oh goodness gracious,
they're going to destroy these counties
that voted for Hillary.
Those people are your people now.
You know what's amazing
is when you look at this,
it's the coast, right?
Because centers of commerce,
centers of trade, You can see the Mississippi
River in blue, centers of commerce, centers of trade.
And then you get a chance to see Colorado. There's
big sections of Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona
that are set. Huge sections along the coast again for these
for Oregon and Washington. that are set. Huge sections along the coast again for these for the... Anywhere people live.
For Oregon and Washington.
And then you look at the main
portion of the state, huge center
of red over there. Yeah, there's nothing there.
I've been in the fucking east
side of Washington State. But then you do the same thing
in Illinois.
Chicago's this giant blue area,
but then again, look at Champaign,
look at Peoria, look at Champaign. Look at Peoria.
Look at St. Louis.
All those areas are all just full.
Yep.
Yeah.
Because those are the ones who came against the will of God in this election.
Now, you've got to understand, and I just want to tell you.
You came against the will of God in this election?
Well, what about all the people that voted?
I come against the face.
Yeah.
Yeah. I don't think the will of voted? I come against the face. Yeah. Yeah.
I don't think the will of God protects their face, actually.
Nothing does.
Yeah, it came against the will of God.
Again, I think when we talked about earlier about the God changing votes, right?
In this case, God didn't change the votes, right?
God gave you free will to vote for whoever you wanted.
Right.
And now you're going to be punished for it.
Enjoy your free will.
But that's how God operates.
That is, right?
That's how God operates.
That's true.
It's like, here's your free will.
Here's your free will.
Make the right choice.
You better make it the right one.
If you don't, the punishments are extreme.
And the lines are real blurry, right?
I'm not going to tell you what the right choice is.
Yeah, I mean, you're being punished here in Jim Baker's eyes for voting for a different candidate.
Yeah, right.
Which, you know, both of them had policies that are good and both of them had policies that are bad.
I don't know if Trump literally didn't have a lot of good policies.
I'm not sure he knows what his policies are.
But, you know, Hillary had some bad ideas, too.
God is really, he handed out the exam and he expects 100%.
No, that's it.
You know what I mean?
He expects 100%.
He's not grading on a curve.
No, no.
Y'all better do all right.
Oh, you know what?
You could vote for Ted Cruz.
That's okay.
That's the other funny thing too, right?
Like it's,
it's just if any Republican won,
they'd say this.
Yeah.
Right?
It was Ted Cruz or Trump or Carson or Rubio.
If it would have been Bernie on the other side,
you voted for Bernie,
you're going to hell.
Right, right.
God has spoken to me.
I've seen under the ground in Florida, in California, especially.
In LA.
In LA.
And God spoke to me that in Los Angeles alone, there's going to be such an earthquake coming
that literally the big buildings will be laying on their sides.
That's not what happens when buildings fall.
They don't just go tipsies over. Are you kidding? They're going to be laying on their sides. That's not what happens when buildings fall. They don't just go tipsies over.
Are you kidding?
They're going to be laying on their side.
Oh, I got sleepy times and now I fell over.
That's just all the buildings.
I'm sleepy now.
He's right, though, because God got in touch with me and he said within the spring or fall of next year, there's going to be a tornado in our area.
In the state of Illinois.
In the tornado alley.
In the state of Illinois. In the tornado alley.
Somewhere in the state of Illinois,
mostly in the Plainfield area,
there's going to be a tornado
warning.
Or watch.
God showed me underground.
And he showed me a trailer
on its side.
It tipsies over.
The tornado dunk club knocked it over, Mom.
All of L.A. is going to collapse, downtown L.A.,
and that there's going to be, and I believe,
the West Coast is going to have, how many of those?
It's going to have what?
Now you transition to how many of those?
Fucking how hard is it to be like, oh, in the fucking ring of fire, there's going to have what? Now you transition to how many of those.
Fucking how hard is it to be like, oh, in the fucking ring of fire, there's going to be a volcano.
I mean, Jesus, dude.
It's like throwing a dart at a dartboard that's all bullseye.
Like, you can't miss, man.
It's like declaring the wall a bullseye.
I bet there'll be a wildfire, too.
Because there's water.
Maybe there'll be a drought.
There'll be weather patterns.
I bet in the desert it'll be hot and dry. There'll be a cold front.
Faults. Faults and earthquake
zones do they have there in California?
Anybody know? And what's interesting
about that California... Nobody answered his question.
Nobody even answered. It's because they don't know.
They're just like, I don't know. That's a science
in question. Is there a lot of faults?
I will say they're at fault for voting for Hillary.
Whenever you even see, and Sasha was the one that actually, from California, made this known to me,
that if you look at California, the east side of California is red.
Because nobody lives there.
Well, and also, now they're making an argument that when the fucking earthquake hits,
it's going to hit the west side of the country.
Where the fucking fault line is.
Yeah, people vote along fault lines.
Asshole.
Well, if you voted for Trump, you did.
By county.
And the west side is blue.
And where do all the fault lines, where do all the prophetic words happen to plant themselves?
It's on the four west of the west Coast. Now it's the blue. Now you
understand it's not, judgment's not coming to them because they voted for Hillary Clinton. It's
because they voted for a platform. They voted for a platform that is so incredibly pro-abortion,
anti-Bible. They voted for a platform that specifically states that they are going to
seek a two-state resolution with Israel, saying in the Democratic Party platform that specifically states that they are going to seek a two-state state resolution with Israel
saying in the Democratic Party platform
that they attempt to divide
the land of Israel. It's not
because they vote Democrat. It's because they vote
a platform, and what that platform
represents is the Democrats.
I love how he's making
this distinction. It's a great distinction
to make, though.
How do these guys claim to know any of this?
The Bible didn't predict America.
It didn't predict democracy.
It didn't predict politics.
It didn't predict any of this.
It has nothing to say about any of these topics. The Bible has no idea that we would ever have a TV to watch
or fucking polyester
to wear. Are you kidding
me? The Bible has something to say about
where it's going to... Oh, there's going to be a
fucking thing in California. You didn't
know there was going to be a California.
And you sure as shit don't know
what the thing is. Right.
There's going to be an earthquake, really?
How the fuck do you know? You didn't even know there were polar bears. There's going to be an earthquake. Really? How the fuck do you know?
You didn't even know there were polar bears.
There's no way in the natural that even a Christian would vote for Trump after all the dump they put on him.
I don't know what the fuck was.
There's no way in the natural that a Christian would vote for Trump after all the dump they put on him.
None of those words make any sense in that order.
Did he have they dumped on him? That's kind words make any sense in that order. Did he have, they dumped on
him? That's kind of hot. Actually. I see dumps like a truck, drunk, like a truck, drunk, drunk.
I mean, you know what I mean? They just, but here's what Trump has surrounded himself
with more men and women of the gospel than any human being
I've ever seen in my 76 years on the face of this earth.
What about the Pope?
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bigly great. So, Tom,
this week was an interesting week.
We got a lot of different
messages from a lot of different people,
a lot of interaction, different places.
In this week, which was really interesting,
I was called, we were called both social justice warriors level 10.
Which is good because I had previously been a level 7.
Yeah, I was only level 6.
I know.
I wasn't able to fight for trans rights, but now I can.
I'm not even like a level 6 cuck.
Level 7 is like watching Trump grab your wife's pussy.
Right.
And I haven't gotten that far yet.
Yeah, that's where I was at.
Level 10 is actually having the VP run your country while you sit in the corner and jack off.
That's a level 10 cuck.
Sweet.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm actually good with it.
I mean, I was kind of going that direction anyway.
So level 10 social justice warrior was what we call it one place.
I love it.
And then we also received an email from the other side of the spectrum.
So let me read this really quick.
This was,
this was fair and balanced.
Yeah.
So,
Hey,
I just wanted to let you know that listening to a portion of your show made me feel physically
sick.
There was a spike in hate crimes the day after the election and the entire trans community
has been hurting.
Just last night I read two fucking suicide notes because my friends can't handle this
anymore.
I know it might seem,
it might not seem that bad from your fucking tower of privilege, but things are scary and sickening from down here.
So a social justice warrior level 10 on one hand, tower of privilege on the other.
I am very confused about what to do.
You know what it is?
Hmm.
Nuance.
Lack thereof. Huh.
It's almost like you have to choose a side in order to please one of the sides
super weird i want i've never had a tower of privilege before it's if if it gets too high
does it get knocked over and then everybody speaks a different language
everybody wears different eyebrow makeup
so i uh i took the elevator up to level chola i did i did want to mention though
and i and i want to be clear on what i was talking about when i was talking about the
the people that were doing uh that were that were putting swastikas all over the place and
things like that the specific example you were talking about right so that's what that's what
i'm talking about that's what i was talking about. That's what I was talking about before.
And I don't want to demean anybody's experience, right?
So when I say that some may be staged, that doesn't mean that all of them are staged.
Okay?
So that's number one.
Okay?
So that's the first thing you have to do is differentiate between whether or not one of
them is staged.
It could be none of them are staged.
It could be a couple of them are.
It could be, you know what I mean?
Like there's a variant there.
I'm being a skeptic.
That's what I'm doing.
So I'm not sure whether or not they are.
And the reason why I am doing that
is because I don't want to just throw everything
into a literal Nazi did this.
Every single one.
It could have been a kid.
It could have been a guy who doesn't
like that person and instead shows
this way in which to
attack them, to hurt
them, right? They're doing the thing
that they could, you know, it's writing the N-word
on a black guy's car, you know what I mean? Like if you're
a trans person, you're going to put a Nazi. And that in no way demeans the
experience of the person coming out to their car.
And I know that's not what you were suggesting. No, and I'm not.
I know you're not. Absolutely.
It's a horrible experience whether a little kid did it and just thought he could get away with it or a literal Nazi did it.
Right?
All I'm saying is I don't know who did it.
It's a question of attribution.
Yes.
That you're – I don't –
So let me – I want to help clarify a little bit because it's a question of attribution, not effect.
Right.
Right?
Because it's a question of attribution, not effect.
Right.
Right.
We are not arguing that these things aren't happening or saying that they don't have real effects.
We're just not willing to attribute these things necessarily to the rise of the American Nazi Party.
Right.
Until we know for sure that this is that they're attributed fairly to that.
There was an interesting thing that happened this week. And I want to bring this back to sort of fake news stories that we talked
about last time. There was an interesting thing that happened last week. There was a story that
came out from the Guardian, right? And the Guardian posted the story and the story is alt-right online poison nearly turned me into a racist.
And it talks about – the quote at the very top says, it started with Sam Harris, moved on to Milo Yiannopoulos, and I almost led to full-scale Islamophobia.
If it can happen to a lifelong liberal, it can happen to anyone. And then it's a story by some anonymous person who was not paid,
just a,
it's really just a garbage piece.
There's nothing to it.
It's just a guy who's saying that he was,
you know,
like,
you know,
he said online poison.
I read some things and it like twisted my brain and I couldn't control myself
or whatever.
I don't even know.
This is like a fucking reefer madness for the modern day,
you know? And, but it was written by some anonymous person, just a random anonymous person.
All the best stories are.
Right, exactly.
All the best stories come from random, anonymous, unpaid editorials.
And so Glenn Greenwald tweeted out this week this story and said, I think the anonymity is a problem.
Now, he basically said, here's an example of Sam
Harris, you know, twisting people into horrible
monsters. That's something like that. I don't remember exactly
what he said. And then he put,
somebody tweeted back at him, shouldn't we be a little
skeptical of an anonymous fucking,
like, just an anonymous story
by someone who wasn't paid for it by the Guardian?
You know, shouldn't we be a little skeptical of this?
And Glenn Greenwald
says, I quote in a tweet here, I quote, I think the anonymity is problematic.
I assume the Guardian vetted, but the dynamic it describes is accurate.
Well, how the fuck does he know?
How the fuck does he know that the dynamic is accurate?
He just likes it because it fits his narrative. Now, later on that day, a guy who's a
Twitter troll by the name of Godfrey Elfwick posted that he wrote the article. He's a Trump
guy. He's a Twitter troll. He's an anti-feminist. He pretends to be-
Sounds like a lifelong liberal. He pretends to be feminist, but in like the most trolly ways.
He posted some, he posted, I wrote this thing.
And then a bunch of people were like, no shit, you wrote it?
And he's like, yeah, I wrote it and I submitted it to the Guardian.
I wrote a fake piece, a hit piece that was a troll piece.
And everybody's like, oh shit, like, oh damn. I can't believe this guy wrote it.
And then a couple of people were like, well, where's your proof?
And he shows a screenshot of his files.
And it just has the name of an article.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's indisputable.
Completely indisputable.
Wow.
But Godless Spellchecker wrote an article about it.
And I quote from Godless Spellchecker's article.
Although we are yet to receive concrete evidence to this to confirm the
truth of elfwick's confession i find this explanation far more convincing than the claims
contained within the original guardian article because it fits my fucking narrative right well
people stop fucking sending stories out making stories up that have no proof to them whatsoever
like this is an example of one story
that didn't have proof and then somebody wrote a counter story with no proof what the fuck is
happening man i don't understand why you would want to join the side of i have reason to believe
that this is more true than the other true you have no no idea. They're all equally untrue.
They're all equally untested claims.
They're all equally untested.
All we know is there was a story that was submitted to The Guardian.
You have no idea who.
You have no idea why.
You have no idea if it's true.
Yeah, and then you have a guy who says,
I wrote the article, but you have no idea how.
You have no idea why.
There's no reason to believe that's true or not.
Exactly, right?
Unless he shows us the receipt that The guardian received from him in some way.
Dude, it's ghosts.
Right?
It's ghosts.
You've got to show us something, right?
Where's the evidence?
Yeah.
Like, show me.
Yeah, show me something.
Show me the ectoplasm.
It's so funny the way those things are written.
The way those things are written, they're coming out and saying, I think it's true because I want it to be true.
Right?
Isn't that exactly it?
That's exactly what they're saying is, I want this to be true, so that's why I think it's true. That's not how truth works. Yeah. There are lots of things I
want to be true. Yeah. None of them are true. Yeah. That's not how it works. You know, and I
want to I do want to draw it back again. So that was that that goes back to the fake article stuff.
Right. Right. And that's, again, why we want to guard against when we're talking about, you know,
we're talking about these these crimes that are happening, the quote-unquote hate crimes, because we don't know.
I mean, they are hate crimes.
I don't want to say quote-unquote hate crimes, because when you wake up and you're a trans person and there's a fucking Nazi sign on your car, that's a hate crime.
No matter who did it.
No matter who did it, that's a hate crime.
Whatever their intent was, that's a hate crime.
No matter who did it, that's a hate crime.
Whatever their intent was, that's a hate crime.
However, I don't want to get into the mode of let's make – I agree with this.
This fits my bias, so let's just spread this out there.
I want to try to avoid that as much as possible.
And that InfoWows article and those two articles that I just read, they make me want to be more skeptical of this stuff. They make me want to us a social justice word because of Milo, right?
So Milo is this guy who's sort of deified by the people on that side as a guy who, you know,
goes out to these places and he speaks his mind and people are upset that he gets shut down at certain places. He gets shouted down, he gets shouted down and whatnot. The thing that we're
mad about with Milo, I don't care what he he says because he's just a provocateur and whatever he says is garbage i don't think he
has anything worth saying yeah i don't think he's an interesting person i've listened to him on rogan
twice and when he speaks the stuff he says is i'm just like i don't care it doesn't make any sense
to me i don't believe you're you're the facts you're bringing to bear here and you're just a
provocateur so for me it doesn't do anything for me.
So I don't care about the content of what he has to say.
I think that a lot of it is baseless and false,
but I don't care about it, right?
It's the same thing with Ann Coulter.
I recognize you're a provocateur.
You're out there trying to push buttons.
The problem is that he's pushing these buttons,
but then he's trying to decide how
people react to it. And you can't do that. Once you let this out in the world, you just can't
control how people are going to react. And it comes back to this, this thing that people keep
sending us and it's freedom of speech, freedom of speech, freedom of speech. And the problem is,
is that it means something legally. Freedom of speech has a meaning.
It's like when we talk about it's just a theory in science. When people say evolution is just a theory.
Well, that has a real meaning behind it.
Theory in science means something.
It means that things have been tested, that there's been a long train of testing.
There's a ton of evidence for this thing to be a true thing.
That's what theory means in science. What it means colloquially is, oh, it's kind of untested.
It's just an untested thing. Yeah, it's just my thoughts on the subject. Exactly. When we talk
about freedom of speech, it's the same thing, right? It means something very specifically
legally, which is the government can't stop you from saying things. What people take it to mean,
and because it's the privilege,
or not the privilege, the right of freedom of speech,
because when we say right of freedom of speech,
people immediately think, well, I have a right to it.
Well, what does it mean?
It means I can say what I want.
No, it does not mean you can say what you want.
It means the government can't stop you
from saying what you want.
There's a huge difference there,
and I think that there's this other sort of specific,
very specific legal term and colloquial use
that people mix and muddle.
Milo has freedom of speech for the government
not to shut him down.
He does not have freedom of speech to walk up to somebody.
I mean, he does have the freedom of speech
to walk up to somebody and say,
you know, call a black guy the N-word.
Right.
But then he doesn't have,
he doesn't get to judge what those consequences are.
Well, he can judge them,
but he can't control them, right?
So, I know we talked about this,
but there's a vast difference
between legal consequences and social consequences.
And there are vast differences
between legal consequences or legal,
you know, when the government says
you can or can't do something, when the government says you can or
can't do something versus when a private company says, I want you here. I don't want you here,
right? If somebody gets banned from Twitter, their freedom of speech has not been impugned,
right? Twitter, you don't have a right to use Twitter. Let's be very, very clear. You have no
right to use Twitter. Twitter is a private company that has a piece of software that you are allowed to use if they let you use it.
You accepted the terms of service.
Right.
But you don't pay for it.
Yeah.
It's a free service, but it's a company that's there to make money.
That's all they're there to do.
The product is the thing they use to make the money, right?
This is not the town square.
The product is the thing they use to make the money, right?
This is not the town square.
If you get kicked off of Twitter, your freedom of speech has not been impugned at all.
Because you can still say all those same things.
On Facebook.
On Facebook.
Or outside.
You can yell them in the town square.
You can walk down the street.
You can publish them in a newspaper.
You can write them on a T-shirt and wear it around town.
You can do all that. You can go to Breitbart and write an article.
Exactly. Exactly.
Your freedom of speech has nothing to do with whether or not
you've been banned from Twitter. Right?
It has nothing to do with whether or not you say
something and somebody calls you
a racist. If you say something
and I call you a racist, am I impugning your free speech?
No, I'm reacting to what you've said.
Right? You might not like my reaction.
You might not like my reaction. You might
not like that I shut you down on my Facebook page, right? So if that happens, I've not impugned your
freedom of speech. Your freedom of speech is still intact. The integrity of your freedom of speech
is complete. Nobody has damaged your freedom of speech. Freedom of speech doesn't mean that you
can go anywhere in the world, public and private, and scream at the top of your lungs in whatever form
or format you'd like without consequences. That is not what freedom of speech is.
Yeah. And another thing that people do is they immediately think that we are
because if Milo says something and then we point out how he can't have it both ways,
they get super mad and they're like, oh, well, you guys agree with the way
in which speakers are shut down at universities.
Like, wait, no, no, no.
Just because Milo was shut down at universities
doesn't mean I agree with the fact
that these things are happening.
I think these things are case-by-case basis.
I don't really have a deep opinion
on how this is handled.
It's basically handled by the universities.
Again, just like how Twitter handles it, right?
It's not my place to make a decision on how Twitter is going. It's basically handled by the universities. Again, just like how Twitter handles it, right? It's not my place to make a decision
on how Twitter is going to handle Milo.
Yeah, I have no doubt.
Same thing when it comes to universities.
I don't have a way in which to do that.
Now, if it's a public university,
it's like UIC or something,
then maybe I have some interest
because it's a state-run university.
But a private university can handle this
in any way they want. That's their
decision on how to handle it.
Do I think that somebody should be
able to get up on stage and scream at Milo?
If he paid for the venue,
I don't think so. I think they
shouldn't come in because he paid
for the venue. He gets to decide who comes in.
It's like renting a house. I get to decide
who comes in. It's the same thing.
But he doesn't. When he goes to these places, a lot of these people get this stuff for free.
So it's open to the public.
When it's open to the public, you have to deal with the public.
You have to decide how that's handled ahead of time.
If it's not handled to your liking, then you can do what he's doing, which is attack these colleges after it's not handled to his liking.
He has every right to go after these colleges after they've not done what they were supposed to do
or what he just thought they should do, et cetera.
Write a bad review.
That's how being a consumer works.
You know what I mean?
So for me to step into that process and be like,
well, I have an opinion.
I don't even have an opinion.
I don't care.
I don't care what happens there.
And the problem is that everybody is so caught up in what's happening
in these tiny little dramas in these in these little universities. They think it's this endemic
of this huge problem. I argued with more people this week about how safe spaces were a bad thing
in comparison to Trump saying he's going to take away the First Amendment. I saw that. Right. I saw
that. You have somebody on Twitter telling me that they're more worried about safe spaces and trigger warnings than they are worried about uh
about the trump saying he's going to take away our first amendment rights because he's going to make
flag burning illegal and strip us of our citizenship are you serious i mean are you seriously thinking
that that's a more pressing issue right that that they have a place where a couple kids can go play with
Play-Doh at a fucking university where they fit.
So they don't feel threatened.
I don't even care that they do it.
Like, you know, it's like, I mean, it just doesn't it boggles my mind that somebody would
would put that and say, you know what?
That's a huge problem.
And then be like, oh, yeah, he's just fucking he just lit the fucking Bill of Rights on
fire.
Doesn't matter.
I don't need that.
Because why?
Because it's your guy.
Because it's your bias.
That's why.
Because it fits the narrative.
It fits your fucking narrative.
Wake the fuck up, man.
It's not about your narrative.
It's about how we all interact.
Do I think that there could be better dialogue out there?
Probably.
Do I think Milo's going to do it?
No.
I had arguments with people too that were like, well, you know, it's a freedom of speech issue.
And then we went back and forth.
And eventually what we got to was, look, this just isn't how you prefer for people to be interacting.
Yeah.
Right?
You don't like the way that the opposing view interacted with your speaker.
And I can tell you, I agree. Yeah. Right.
I agree. If somebody, if I were going to go, let's say, let's say you and I were going to go to one
of these cons and we were going to do our show and then somebody stood in the front, you know,
thing and they just blew whistles and we couldn't do our show. Right. Would I be frustrated? Yeah.
Yeah. Would I think that was rude? Yeah. I would think that was fucking rude. Would I contact the
con organizers and say, you should have had fucking security drag those fuckers out of here. They interrupted my speech. Yes. Would I say my disinvite to the same place, okay.
Yeah.
That's fucking their prerogative.
Yeah.
Right?
Maybe I don't like the reason somebody got disinvited.
Okay.
Well, unless you're invited to my house.
But if it's not my fucking house, I've got nothing to say about it.
We want to thank Alice.
Alice is someone we met in Manchester at QED.
Alice sent us a board game
and it's Monopoly. Yeah, but it's the
Manchester edition, which means nobody wants to buy
any of the properties.
We are also in a few hours, less than
an hour actually, we're going to be recording with David Smalley
for the Podcast-a-thon. You, of course,
will not hear this until it's released,
but you can go check out the Podcast-a-thon.
I think it's in its entirety on YouTube, unless he takes down our section.
Do you know what's funny is if you Google Dogma Debate Broadcast-a-thon, we're the fifth entry that shows up.
Awesome.
Well, it should be a lot of fun.
Thus far, he's – and we're just reporting this right now, so we don't know how far we're going to get.
But at this point right now, we're looking at a total amount of 36,952.
We're hoping that during our hour, we at least get 5K so Tom can roast him on the air.
Like we said, you're probably going to hear this.
You're definitely going to hear this after everything's been said and done
because I won't get a chance to mix this show until after
we get on with david smalley i don't know what you're going to be doing in the next hour how
can't you get an hour and a half show maybe i can mix it talking to him um so anyway better than
paying attention to him we got a couple of uh messages that we're talking about uh how to look
at the online news more uh in a more reasoned way.
And I'm going to put these on this episode's show notes.
One of them was by Stephen Novella.
It's entitled Civic Online Reasoning.
And the other one's from Forbes, and it's a scientific approach to distinguishing real from fake news.
We want to thank the listeners who sent these in.
Yeah, thank you very much.
If you want to take a look at these, you can go to our show notes, 329.
We're going to be interviewing Cara Santamaria later today, which you will hear probably on Thursday this week if it's a midweek show, if I mix it for one, or you'll hear it next Monday.
But we're going to be interviewing Cara, and this is going to be one of the topics that we're going
to be talking to Cara with because Cara's a very smart person, and she knows her shit,
and she absolutely knows a lot about fake news. We're going to be talking specifically with her
about this. We got this email from somebody talking about Good Mythical Morning,
specifically the Will It Corndog taste test.
I have a 10-year-old, and I got to tell you, like, I love Good –
the only reason I'm bringing this up is because I genuinely love Good Mythical Morning.
They're really funny guys.
If you don't watch that show on YouTube, it's the only time you'll ever hear me say this.
Watch that show on YouTube.
That shit is fucking funny.
And their Will It series, it cracks me the fuck fuck up i make my son watch it with me now i'm like we want good mythical morning it's like you're the grown-up dude it's your fucking tv
and he talks to me like that too i know he's rude that's that's because you're interrupting his porn
hub sessions so um so we got uh uh i got a message from Thomas this last week, Thomas from Atheistically Speaking.
We're going to be joining him today later on.
We're doing everything today.
And we're going to be on his 300th show.
So one of the things that we're going to be doing is talking about a lot of the stuff that we talked about at the end of the program here today about deplatforming and things like that.
So if you want to hear that, it's on his 300th show.
We're going to probably be taking about a half an hour of his time.
Oh, so we got a message from Patrick, and Patrick said,
I was at a medical clinic a week ago talking to receptionists through bulletproof glasses.
This is the comment about bulletproof glass that Jim Baker had made,
that they have bulletproof glass in Israel.
And he says, the clinic isn't in Israel, and the window there isn't for fear of Islamic extremists.
It's Planned Parenthood and the terrorists in question
are the American Christians.
I know, great comment.
Jackpot win right there.
So that's going to wrap it up for this week.
Like we said, we're going to have Kara on today.
Hopefully that fucking tape doesn't bork.
And then we're going to hopefully have that on.
We'll be on Dogma Debate as well, probably on Thomas' show.
So check us out this week.
Be sure to get your tickets soon because they're going to go off the shelves.
They're going to fly off the shelves.
So get them soon for GAM Live.
We're going to be on stage with the GAM crew.
We're super excited about it.
Should be a lot of fun.
They're funny fucking guys, and we are going to have a great time.
That's going to wrap it up for this show.
Catch us in other places, and we're going to leave you like we always do with the Skeptic's Creed.
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