Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 343: Pillow Hands

Episode Date: February 13, 2017

Thanks to for joining us. Tom, Cecil, and Ishmael talk about Jesse Lee Peterson’s opinion that if there were no black people in America, we wouldn’t have as many murders and riots.  Cecil and Tom then discuss how and why the Republican side was so much better at cock blocking than liberals are. Hillbilly God comes back to talk about the apples of Gods eye, aka his scrotum. Lastly, a Philadelphia woman is married to Jesus and is considered an extra fancy virgin by the Catholic Church.  Stories covered in episode: Extra:  We will be doing a live show next Sunday the 19th at 3 pm central. Here is a link to our Livestream page:   

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This is episode 343 of Cognitive Distance. And we are joined again by a friend of the show, Ishmael. Ish, how you doing, man? Joined again by friend of the show, Ishmael. Ish, how you doing, man? I'm doing good, but you actually, you should pronounce my name as Dan Arrow and the most hated atheist because he likes punching Nazis for some reason. What the fuck is that about? Are we going to talk? They swear he's a Nazi now.

Hey, I'm not against punching Nazis. And they're like, God damn you, Dan Arrow. Anyway, I love your live show. Who does that? Come on. Who punches a Nazi? Come on. I think we should go with hugs for Nazis. We'll just hug them real, real tight. I think when you hug them, you give them a wedgie.

I would love, wait, did someone say birth control? Did I miss that? No. Nobody said birth control. Jesus. I don't know what I'm saying. I might be going crazy. Okay. If I end up having a psychotic, I swear to God, a woman's voice came on and said, birth control?

Okay. Why does my mic smell like burnt hair? I remember that from The Sopranos when homeboy died. He smelled burnt air and then he died and he had a heart attack. But anyway, you would...

Is your left eye drooping right now? Because you got to see something. I don't have a camera. I swear to God, I heard birth control. I swear I heard it in my life before. God.

I just wish for bacon. I got to check my internet connections. There might be some woman across the way who's like, you know, I want to try birth control before you put it in me without a counter. I don's like, you know, I want to try birth control before you put it in me without a kind of... I don't know. But anyway,

I gotta say, they act like there weren't Jews during the siege of France that were literally going out with gangs and fucking up Nazis. There are guys known as heroes. Well, anyway, we'll get to that. We could get to that later, but...

Ugh, Jesus. Dude, we're that. We could get to that later. Jesus. Dude, we're liberals. We can't hurt people. We have to use our voices. Are we talking about this now? Are we doing this now? Okay. If we're doing this now, let's just do this now. Ish. All right. So I'm just going to introduce this story because we've been asked to talk

about this. We had Dan Aron. We did not talk about his pro-punching a Nazi stance. Cecil and I have already had our show. We talked about what we think about walloping up on Nazis. Now, you're pro-punching a Nazi. You fall into Dan Errol camp. You and Dan Errol are one and the same. You have the exact

same opinion. You're basically the same person. I don't know his full opinion. But, no, I mean, from what I've seen, yeah, if you got pillow hands, yeah, you might as well punch a Nazi and inconvenience him for like a half a second. Yeah, it's not like that. I mean, I go to World Star Hip Hop where they knock out each other in the back of the head on the concrete. And everybody seems to be OK with that.

No one gets arrested. World star hip hop, huh? A black guy goes to world star hip hop. Shut up. There's a bunch of white people calling each other niggas on there. Have you seen that? And you better not delete that. Because I said niggas with an A. No, it was with an A, motherfucker.

You listen to rap music. You better not delete that. I listen to the censored version. It's when they're rapping, they're in the middle of the rap, you know, and they're going and then you just hear a blank word or they say something else like playas instead. It's perfect. I love it. You related playas to niggas? Okay.

You clearly need a history lesson. Oh, God. So you're okay with punching the guy? Well, because, listen. What's your position? I'm not going to go out punching Nazis. I don't, that just, I don't know. That seems silly to me.

Is it because you got pillow hands? No, because I don't. Because, you know, I got world star hip hop hands where the back of the head hits the ground. You know, like, am I getting charged with murder? One hand says world star, on the other hand says hip hop. Yeah, and is world star hip hop, it's being showed or it's on CNN. If your punch is being shown on CNN, you clearly didn't do any damage. Look, if you're a black guy, your punch is shown on CNN.

I mean, let's be honest. Unless you're the one getting punched. Exactly. In which case, it's on Fox. No, I mean, listen. I'm not, listen. I'm kind of in this weird place where I'm trying to figure out what I feel

because how I feel how blacks have been treated in this country and stuff, I feel like whatever you need to do to rise above all the bullshit and all the racism and everything else, do it. But, like, these guys who are like, okay,

Trump won, and I'm gonna... First of all, he jumped in the air and punched him. Everyone knows that's not how you punch someone. You have no... Mostly, your criticism here is technique-related. Because I just don't find his punching damages.

And I actually appreciate that. It's like we have Joe Rogan. I know. It's like, first of all, you didn't get your hips in there. All your power comes from the hips. Unless it's an MMA Superman punch by George St. Pierre

and it's like... I mean, those punches were like... I mean, if he would have hit a kid, the kid would have been like, oh, that was kind of annoying. Like, I'm sorry. When were like, I mean, if he would have hit a kid, the kid would have been like, oh, that was kind of annoying. I'm sorry. I've never hit anyone where when I hit them, they're objecting to it. They are in another world.

They don't know what happened. Their friends are telling them, no, someone hit. First of all, I don't sneak punch anyone. I've got snuck punch because I'm a big guy. I don't hit someone when they're not like, I usually push them and then I say, okay, you want to fight? Let's go. But it was a sneak punch and the guy barely moved.

Like he kind of just was like, oh wow, that was an inconvenience. And then we got people in the atheist community. People in the atheist community swear we were out like assassinating Nazis. He actually looks like he elbows him when he throws that punch yeah it looks like he misses and kind of clips him with the forearm right yeah it's like when ted cruz hugged his wife it's kind of like that it's like where he sort of misses her with

the hand when ted cruz's wife tried to hug him and ted cruz like man i'm trying to hug this man get the fuck out of my face get out of it he just elbowed her across the chin get the fuck out of here so yeah punching nazis is not the end of the world in some i don't want to call them self-righteous because they got a good point what they're saying but just being black knowing history going through the 60s having black panthers assaulted i just find i mean murdered really if you look at cointel pro and shit like that but they had guns though ish well oh okay that that's true you have i mean tamir rice had a toy gun and he was legally murdered so obviously that's okay so obviously that's okay in this country yeah no no but i i just found the extra like, oh, my God, we are lowering ourselves like this guy barely touched us.

I get it. You guys want to. We had dogs. We had hoses. And you guys swear we just ruined the revolution because we pillowed hand guy touched another man's face. I go to World Star Hip Hop. Kids are like they may be dead. The video ends with the back of their head hitting the floor. And I'm like, Jesus, what the? I mean, my freshman year in college, this kid died because he was drunk talking shit to some guy who just came on the campus to visit his cousin. And the kid was 16. He punched him.

He hit the back of his head. His brain swelled and he died that's terrifying that made me say i need the second guess punching people out in clubs you know because i don't want to go to jail just because you know i'm a little tipsy and some guys looked at me the wrong way but so when i see this guy barely get touched and and maybe i shouldn't be qualifying it because it's really about a physical like a physical reaction to someone who was just spouting um uh in ideology he's not necessarily right actively hurting someone i just have trouble taking it as serious as so many in our community take it talking to you no illusions i likeusions. I like you, Noah. You're my boy. But man, you were angry at a lot of people who were like, yeah, why don't we punch Nazis? I don't know. I don't think we're going to find Nazis left and right. I don't think there's

a lot of people claiming they're Nazis. I don't think this was like, you know, the thing that would end the like atheist or liberal movement. I just was like this guy barely got touched and whatever the guy who punched him needs boxing like it was so to me it was so anticlimactic okay so let's talk about let's get a little higher mind let's talk a little bit about the principle of hurting another person because they have different ideas okay but before we get started can i just say this nat turn is my hero so if you want to know where that's where it starts, we can go from there. A guy who went house to house just murdering people because he was a slave. I'm okay with that.

Oh, I don't know the story. Can you tell the story? I don't know. Yeah. Ew, you don't know Nat Turner? No, we're white. We don't learn this stuff. Yeah, we got the history from the victors.

You know why? I know Abraham Lincoln. He had something to do with the slaves. Yeah. Right? And he just got props for Black History Month from Mike Pence. You know why? I know Abraham Lincoln. He had something to do with the slaves. Abraham, right? And he just got props for Black History Month from Mike Pence. Hey, I want to honor Black people by honoring a white man

who may or may not have thought Black people were equal to white people. Yeah, but no, Nat Turner was a slave who rebelled and went house to house and murdered everyone. And, um, we just like murdered like kids and shit too. Yeah.

Everyone. Everyone. He basically, yeah. And, and, and I, I, I don't know how to, I can think on some, you know, 20, like, okay, now we shouldn't do. But, like, what was going on? The rape of men, women, and children, children being murdered. I don't know. And you can't read.

You can't, like, if you read, they'll kill you. They chop off your hands. They chop off your dick. They take the biggest buck and rape them to make sure. Like, who am I to be like, oh, Nat Turner should have found a more peaceful way to rebel. And he was the cause of death of many innocent. If you, I don't even know what innocent meant back then, because they could just kill you if they wanted innocent black slaves and everyone. But that I can't see myself not doing that. I can't see myself being like, wait, this nation is okay with me and my family being enslaved, them murdering us left and right.

I don't know if I'd be like the Martin Luther King way. So do you think context matters? I was going to mention, too, at this point, I think what you're talking about, though, is an act of war. At this point, I think what you're talking about, though, is an act of war, right? We're talking about a guy who, you know, is essentially at war with a country and occupying. He's the occupier. I don't know. I don't know how it would work.

Occupying force or something. Right. So they're controlling his entire population. They're, you know, I mean, would I be mad if someone broke out of a forced labor camp in Nazi camp or something nazi germany and like killed some families on their way i i wouldn't i would be like no like i'm not in that situation i don't know what that's like to be in that situation also maybe he did it to get way or when everyone seems to condone it kind of in a way so i i don't know that i would i don't know that i would feel the same way and i don't know that that reflects exactly what was happening here what what we're talking about, though,

I mean, in principle, let's just, I mean, let's just lay, let's unpack it in principle. In principle, stopping someone from speaking by attacking them physically if they are saying something that is, say,

egregious. Just terrible. Like Richard Spencer, anything he says, you know. The other day on Twitter, he wished Trevon Martin Just terrible. Like Richard Spencer, anything he says. You know, the other day on Twitter, he wished Trayvon Martin a happy birthday,

which was, I thought, particularly egregious. Trayvon, at least pronounce it right, Cecil. Jesus. Trayvon. Isn't that what he said?

Trayvon, God damn it. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm from Northern Europe. Oh my God. No'm from Northern Europe. Oh, my God. No, no, listen. I don't think, I don't know who this guy was.

It just seemed like a clown on the street who kind of gave the sloppy punch. And I think we kind of, because certain people supported it, we made it seem like it was part of our agenda. Like, yes, we should punch Nazis whenever we see them. I did not see that. Like, I feel like Nazis and white supremacists go left and right and talk whatever the fuck they want. I mean, Steve Bannon is clearly a white nationalist. And I don't think the left is some like getting to be this like ultra violent group. And I feel like we were kind of painting them because some masked guy who,

I'm not even sure who they are. Because, you know, all those masked people who had the anarchist flag, they were well organized. They had made sure they had the cameras. I don't know who they are and what they represent. George Soros. George Soros.

Oh, yeah. Because he paid for the signs, right? It's the signs, man. They convince everybody. That's the marketing. I'll tell you. Those anarchists, those are the Antifa guys, right? That's who those guys are.

I'm scared of what? Antifa? What'd you call me? He was talking to a girl, a black girl. Shut up. Shut up. That's not how you pronounce it. It's Antifa. It's pronounced alizé get it right

but but yeah because because there were a group of people who to me clearly weren't necessarily liberals they were this well-organized group that were well-masked all in black and just started destroying shit and they had had a anarchist flag. Those guys are fucking retards. Yeah. Those guys are idiots. Those guys are ridiculous. And the guy who punched him was,

he had the mask on. Yeah, he was one of those guys. And seemed well organized. So I don't think we need to go all extra. And just because people like it. I mean. But I disagree with you. I think that's the part that's unsettling, man.

That's the part that's unsettling is that. All right. So we all we're all on this call, right? We all we all see this fucking goofball in his fucking mask, his coward mask. Right. That's what that shit is. This is a mask. Yeah.

And he cowardly punches a guy runs up and sucker punches a guy anonymously like a fucking shitbag coward. And the part that I do think we need to wrestle with a little bit, if we want to be honest, is the response to that when it is positive from otherwise reasonable and thoughtful people that are supposed to be sort of like on our side. I think it delegitimizes parts of, not all of us. I agree with you that the response is blown out of proportion. I do agree with you there. But I do think it's worth having a talk and saying like, man, of us. I agree with you that the response is blown out of proportion. I do agree with you there.

But I do think it's worth having a talk and saying, man, what the fuck is wrong with people that were even wrestling with this? That were even having a conversation. What is the point in opposing violent oppressors if the way that you oppose it is to oppress violently? way that you oppose it is to oppress violently. Like it's pointless to be on this side of the ballgame where we say like, you know what I don't like? I don't like people who marginalize groups of people based on race and color and sexuality and perform violent actions against them. And I'm going to show that by violently putting that shit down. I think we lose all credibility when we do that. I think it's reasonable to have that conversation. I guess, yes, and you're right. It is reasonable,

but I think the reaction was so overblown because I think if it was like, if this guy fell back, knocked out, hit the back of his head, I think that would have resonated more and made people, but it was like this cheap kind of like, I'm so angry. We feel so powerless. Trump just got elected in all these white nationalists and racists. I don't think like if they caught the guy who did it, Mr. Meaner, he gets probation, he should go off. But the way we reacted was as if there was this uprising of violence and like the left just totally went this way and everyone's getting blocked and unfriended. And I'm just like, this was so not impressive to me.

I get the guy's frustration. It's not like he hit a woman like you could see that happening. And that's even worse. He just hit this guy because he was. And like we said, we don't know who this guy is. He was obviously masked the right way and a lot of people who are masked similar dressed the way he was were breaking like starbucks what does starbucks have to do with trump what does so many of these other i felt like they just wanted

attention and i feel like we gave this little weak-handed pillow puncher like if he was just changing the direction of our revolution. And it was like, why are we so extra about this? This guy is not serious. I get we don't need to embrace violence. I get that. And I'm not saying I don't think in America, being a country that lynched so recently and everything like that and was about vigilante justice, we don't need that.

But I don't need that. But I don't think we need to pretend this little punch means that the left has been like, OK, let's just go out and start. Because in reality, in the next four years, the people who are going to be hurt, who has been hurt, are people of color, are women, are people who are not accepted, who may be gay, transgendered and things like that. And we don't need to get all extra and be like, oh, our side. Like there's always going to be one. It's one guy, one guy out of how many millions, the largest protest ever. I think I think you're missing the point.

It was peaceful. How am I missing it? Well, let me explain it to you. So you're missing the point in the sense that the moment it happened, a bunch of people that are on our side said, come on, guys, it's totally fine to do this. This is OK. And that's the problem is that it wasn't just one guy. It was a bunch of people that said, no, this is a good way to do it. This is how this isn't this isn't just a good way to do it. In fact, this is how you do it. This is how you handle Nazis. This isn't just, oh, there's a Nazi and maybe

here's my options. I have multiple choice. I can engage in conversation, kick him in the balls, or pillow hand him in the face. Those are your three options. No, they were saying that punching him is the only option. I actually think the weakness of the punch, I think the fact that it was a lame

punch, it didn't do any damage, is part of the problem, I think the fact that it was a lame punch that didn't do any damage is part of the problem. I think the reaction would have been different if he world star hip-hopped that guy, right? Yeah, if he shocked everybody with violence, it would have been very different. If that guy had walked up and fucking Ishmael that dude to the floor, right? Ishmael. Racist. I'm giving you a little credit.

Jesus Christ. You're sending me to world star hip-hop and Ishmael? You're going to fucking humble brag over there About knocking some fucking people out You're sitting over there With your fucking microphone like I fucking knocked people out When I was fucking nine years old And I'm trying to fucking

You're going to humble brag and I'm going to give you that fucking props And now I'm a racist Are you trying to downplay my knockout skills Cause I'll come see you Are we going to fight at ReasonCon? I hope so. Are we going to fight Ishmael at ReasonCon? It's not going to be a quote unquote fight.

I'm just going to lay you the fuck out. And I'm going to tap you and let you know. Tom, you're going to sleep now. Just so you know. I don't sneak punch people. I don't sneak punch people. Why are we sneaking Ishmael? Ishmael's going to get it for bleeping me.

So I don't know why he's laughing. I listened to that episode like ten times and I'm like, that motherfucker bleeped me. Actually, the whole time you're on my episode, I'm just going to have a tone. You're not even going to speak. It's just going to be a That's what it's going to sound

like when I lay you out, Cecil. Jesus Christ. This guy. This fucking guy. Okay, okay. I'm sorry. I need to stop threatening people. Oh my God.

We expect to have a black guy in the show. No one is going to be like, what has happened to the atheist community? Donald Trump's going to listen. He's like, see black people. I told you.

I told you about him. Yeah, Donald Trump's going to listen to this shit. Anyway, you were saying, Ted. So I think the weak sauce punch is part of the problem. Because it didn't do any damage, because nobody got really hurt, people were able to see it and be like, yeah, that seems fine, right? I think if he had fucking knocked that dude out and clunked his head and he died,

then the reaction would have been like, fuck that. That's why we don't need violence, right? But it's because it was some weak sauce bullshit of a punch that everybody was able to say like, ah, I see there was no damage. So you can just go around and hit them. And you know, that that's like, that's the slipperiest of slopes, right? Because it's like, is there a difference? Like how hard, like we talked before, like, well, how hard am I supposed to hit him? Do I hit him with all my force? I hit him once, I hit him twice. It was the, it was literally the perfect punch to spark a conversation because it was consequence free i think if there

had been real consequences physically damaging consequences if that dude had been fucked up by that punch yeah then then that would have been a real different ball game right it would have shocked people's consciences differently than the pillow hand punch. Yeah. Listen, I guess I can kind of agree with you, but where I disagree is that punch and the safety of that punch and the little punch and he ran the camera guy almost grabbed the guy. He was so frigging like any real aggressive guy would have been like, after you punch someone, your adrenaline's up and then someone tries to grab you and you think the police are coming.

You knock the camera guy out. Obviously, don't hit the camera guy. Everybody dies when it's your adrenaline's up, and then someone tries to grab you and you think the police are coming. You knock the camera guy out. Obviously, you don't want to hit the camera guy. Everybody dies when Ishmael's around. I'm telling you, what's that aggression? Ishmael is an AK-47. When you absolutely have to knock out every motherfucker in the room, except no substitute. God damn. Jackie Brown.

Thank you. Ordell Roby. Love that. Love that. You probably even know you you. Or Del Roby. Love that. Love that. You probably even know you're quoting Or Del Roby. Anyway. No, but I got to say, the people who I've seen on Facebook talking all that, yeah, we should punch, we'll never punch anyone. I don't, I don't think we're at a, like, there's a point where the liberal side are going to get super aggressive and start punching people. I think it was people who just

like felt powerless, who felt like demoralized and who felt weakened by the election of Trump. And they just were like, yeah, yeah. You know, and they were wrongly supporting it. A lot of them. I don't think most of them are going out punching anyone. I don't think it created this subdivision within our community, and it's like our community is going to start to be violent. I really don't see that happening.

And you want to know what was funny, which went unnoticed within the left, was when the Berkeley thing, and I don't want to hype it up because i think they were right to protest and i don't think it has anything to do with freaking free speech because the government didn't stop it but they like maced a woman at one of those protests like yeah those antifa fuckers are assholes there wasn't a berkeley protesters that was a peaceful protest until that anarchist group showed up exactly fucked that thing up. Isn't that more like, wait, you maced?

To me, that's more egregious than some guys Oh, it's certainly more egregious. But I don't think it raised the right there with you. Other people got beat up. There was a guy who was bleeding all over his face. There was people who got the shit kicked out of them. And that's why there's no conversation, because everybody

reasonable on our side agrees that that's awful. There's no reason. The other thing is a controversy is because there's controversy, right? Well, because I think we overreacted to be the guy who punched him overreacted, even though I think he's probably one of the guys who like threw shit through the glasses.

Like they literally were like, let's just cause damage, senseless damage. It has nothing to do with a narrative. And it's kind of like, are you guys even liberals? They had the anarchist flag. Like, let me ask you a question. Ish.

Last time you were on the show, we were talking about riots and specifically the racial riots that were happening in Ferguson and in Baltimore and things like that. You seem to be for destruction of property in those instances. How is that different? Well, because they seem like I don't even know what they're for. Like they were masked. They didn't have any narrative. I don't know. I feel like they just were like, listen, there's going to be a lot of people gathering. Let's just go break and burn shit. But like if it is like listen where black lives matters or where certain people and we're doing this and we're willing to be arrested it's like boycotting things or or sitting at at a lunch counter and saying arrest us there's a huge difference between

sitting at a lunch counter or boycotting something and setting fires though don't you think fires though don't you think to me no i mean no as far as uh as far as a community that has been like marginalized subjugated and left with no no i i don't think people of color who are being killed 12 year old boys being killed by the cops legally supposedly and things like that you do what the fuck you gotta do to like bring attention to it. But if I'm just going to be masked, and if I just go down my street right now, masked, throwing rocks through windows and doing this and that, and I don't know what I'm even trying to get across. I think I'm just terrorizing people. Once society says you don't count, and it's a little different now, it's not so, well, to the Black community, it's Black and white, because Black people are just dying left and right. But to the community as a whole, it's not white people dying. It's not Kent State being

murdered by cops, peaceful college students being murdered by cops. But when it gets to that, yes, burn the country down to people. Listen, if my friends being murdered who are unarmed do not make you guys wake up and say something's wrong. We got to do something else. And a peaceful march holding hands to me isn't good enough. Yeah, burn something the fuck down. They just murdered people. They murdered college students.

Like when SNCC got it, once white people starts getting killed, you know something's going wrong. Like, you know what I mean? So, yeah. Well, God. Once white people start getting killed, burn shit down. I'm sorry.

Even in the mental health community, if someone's schizophrenic, if someone, like, cops can just murder you. Yeah. That guy they shot in the leg down there that was just a. He literally laid down. He did everything right. Laid down. I'm not a threat. But they've also killed

even white mental health people who had like a screwdriver. And I'm like, well, he had a screwdriver, so I shot him in the face because I felt kind of nervous. I thought he was going to steal my radio. You know, that's...

That's actually... I was reading an article not that long ago. It's actually a pretty huge issue where family members, you know, they've got somebody in their family that's mentally ill and they call the police because they're acting up and they need somebody to take them to the hospital because they're mentally ill and the police show up and the paramedics

show up and the person's acting erratic and they end up, they, they called for help. They called me like, I fucking need some help. And the police show up and shoot that fucking guy. And all they're trying to do is get them into the goddamn. If they hadn't shown up, he wouldn't have been a fucking threat to anybody.

They show up, escalate the situation by creating a demand that somebody mentally ill can't comply with. Then they don't comply. The situation escalates. This person's fucking not well. They knew they weren't well. And it happens with alarming frequency. This is not an infrequent activity, unfortunately. I always say call the fire department.

Don't call the police. Call the fire department when someone is mentally ill but is not necessarily threatening because they come with paramedics and they're not carrying guns ready to kill people. If they have axes, they kill them in a totally different way. In that fancy crowbar? Wallop you. Put the jaws of They kill them. In a totally different way. In that fancy crowbar. Put the jaws of life in them. Well, let's cover this story because we only got about 20 minutes left and we want to cover this story with you. So let's cover the story. Okay.

I guess so. Don't sound so put out-ish. I don't know. You asked me in a way I couldn't... What am I going to say? Yes, boss. I just felt... I felt empowered by you asking me. I'm on your podcast.

It's about fucking time you would fucking respond like that. I require you to say that. I'm on your podcast. This guy is three-fifths the best guest we've ever had. You notice I'm not laughing. When when i see it reason kind of by a donkey oh jesus at an acre whatever it is you are just i'm a nazi punch you like man listen no i'm a world star hip-hop ceasar's to be like, why? Why? We have two interviews today.

Oh, it's going to be awesome. No, man. No, it's like, this is like fucking Riddick. Like, you kill Tom, you take his place. It's all good, dude. Hey, what do you mean it's all good? The fuck do you mean it's all good? What I mean is it's an upgrade.

That's true. God damn it. I'm going to be so mad if I have to fight Ishmael. Because it's not going to be considered a fight. No way. Again. This is good. Again.

Jesus Christ. All right. This story is from Right Wing Watch. Jesse Lee Peterson. If there were no black people in America, why did you pick this story? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah.

Seriously. It's so racist. Right? I'm racist. This guy's racist. All right, Jesse Lee Peterson. If there were no black people in America, we wouldn't have as many murders and riots.

That's it. No, that's it. He didn't even ask what I thought about it. He was like, continue? Let me read what he said here. He said, without black people in this country, I think there would hardly be any riots and the murder rate might drop by half or more. Blacks and Democrat would-be voters. Wait a minute. What?

Are disproportionately represented among violent offenders in prison. Most are also separated from their fathers. This guy fucking has a father thing. He's always had a big father. Ishmael, how many illegitimate kids do you have? None. Except for Tom's kids. Tom's kids, because I'm taking them

by the end of ReasonCon, his kids are going to be mine. You keep what you kill. It's going to be like Game of Thrones, right? Your father was the weaker warrior. Come with me, boys. It's the necromonger way. Keep what you kill. It's going to be like Game of Thrones, right? Your father was the weaker warrior. Come with me, boys. It's the necromonger way.

Keep what you kill. Write the check. Oh, God. He said, all right, well, I'm not suggesting we get rid of blacks or Democrats. Thank goodness. Because he is a black guy. This is a black guy talking. I'm not suggesting we get rid of blacks or democrats but must return to fathers to responsibility forgiveness and god when you're

angry you reject responsibility you are unforgiving you don't know god and you don't love anyone you are out of control angry people feel like victims and identify with others who are angry and emotional who also feel like victims and then he talks about trayvon martin's parents did i say it right that time yeah who uh who are writing a book or wrote a book i think and then he's talking about the the book um instead telling a different story the story that they're telling is that their kid was killed, and what they should be writing a book about, in his eyes, is how shamed they should feel because they didn't

parent well enough. Yeah, he did the most to try and just, I mean, for one, and he used, he called Trayvon a thug, he used thug, and thug, to me, and to a lot of people of color, is the new n***a. I was going to ask that. Is that really what's happening here? Like, we're just redefining our new term of hatred? Yes, to me, and to a lot of people of color, is the new n***a. I was going to ask that. Is that really what's happening here?

Like, we're just redefining our new term of hatred? Yes, black people are called... I mean, if you're an athlete and you do something wrong or even get in a fight on a field, if you're black, they call you a thug. If you're a hockey player and you bang the hell out and beat the shit out of someone, if you want, you're not a thug. Black people are the ones...ockey's the stupidest sport. It is.

Let's just get that. Hockey is fucking stupid. The fighting in hockey is stupid. And fucking the sport itself is stupid. It's not the stupidest. To me, baseball is. Because baseball are actually people who fight like high school kids. They are not even World star high school kids.

World star. I mean, they just run out to the mound. And then they, like, punch old ass Tommy Lasorda like some bitcher. Like, you can just beat the elderly in baseball. You can beat the elderly and not go to jail. This is a disaster. This whole conversation is a life of disaster. This is my favorite.

No, I'm just saying, like, well, okay. Go ahead. This is a disaster. This whole conversation is a delightful disaster. This has been my favorite. I'm just saying. Are white people not allowed to use the word thug anymore? Is that like. No. What about if there's harmony involved? Like if there's thugs in harmony. Can I go there?

Can I tattoo it on my stomach? What about if it's a life? Like if I have a whole life anyway he won't even tolerate that shit yeah no listen you guys can do what you want but um it definitely is one of those things that they more readily call black people no matter what i mean there was an article i remember about a year or so ago it was like a black businessman who was attacked and like you know and they were like well the thug and it's like if you're black you're very easily being called a thug than anyone else no matter what your class or what you know your profession it's just one of those things that

they'll call you a thug and especially all professional athletes are thugs not necessarily white athletes even if they're tattooed up and this and that they they just don't resort to that to to a lot of people in the black community and even outside of the community thug obviously seems to be the new derogatory term that's like sure it's a way to it's a way to marginalize a group of people by suggesting that they're inherently violent, right? Yeah, exactly. No matter their background, you could be a college student with all A's and this and that, and you get

into some kind of trouble, and the news may call you a thug. The worst part is I got a bleep thug for this whole thing. God damn it. No, no, no, nobody should replace it with the N-word. I was going to say, i said thugger not thugger okay one of my black actors uh black listeners are like okay fuck him you are you are the only black listener buddy you're it yeah oh that's true i'm gonna

tell him i'm on here there's there's there's one uh one young lady from london who listens as well she's from europe she doesn't even count she's not like real yeah she doesn't know the n-word she doesn't know what's wrong with that she's not american black right she sounds like mary she's sophisticated. And you know what's funny? Because I definitely use the word nigga, but I don't use the word Uncle Tom or Coon. Because those two... It's a long story, but

I'd rather just call him what he is, you know? And he just seems like a guy who's so ashamed of being African American, of being Black. And it's funny because he denounces, he says black people wrongly call things racist while he's being racist. He's literally saying, because you're black, you are less than, or you are more violent, you are this.

And then at the same time, he's saying, well, yeah, and another bad thing. And he talks about like, he tries to bring it to religion. And he talks about anger. And he says like, oh, if you're angry, you reject being reasonable. And that's not who is more angry in this country. The religious right is. Yeah, it's the guys who hate gay people, who hate trans people. I want to talk a little bit about this, though. When you said you were saying that, you know, like like here's a guy who feels ashamed to be, you know,

to be a black person or whatever. What I feel though, do you think that if you have this view and you're black, you can write a check for yourself? Because if you go out there with your, you know, and show self-hatred and depict your, you know, black culture as bad as a black person, because it sort of lends more credibility to what you're saying. There's a lot of people that love to hear this because people want to hear this narrative from someone of color because it lends legitimacy. No, I totally agree. And because then it's not racist. How he's black. What are you talking about? He's black. How can he be racist? He's black. And no, I definitely think there's a market on the right side, on the right side of politics that is like, hey, if you're

black and you like like like that sheriff, I forget his name already. That sheriff hates BLM and hates all that. Like he has a disgust for black people and a disgust for black people. These both, I think they both jump on the whole black lives matter is the devil. Yeah. Is the devil. Yeah. Kind of bandwagon where it's like black people protested. And even this guy also said, he said, um, black on white violence today, worse than the KKK.

How can any thinking person say that? And that was Jesse Lee Peterson, not the show. I mean, the KKK literally legal, well, not even legally, they just would hang you. They would rip off your fingers. They would give them to people as souvenirs. The whole town came out. They would kill kids like Emmett Till and things like that. And they got got off that's worse than black on white crime that is actually um prosecuted like if I kill if I kill a black person and I kill a white person I'm more likely to go to jail for the white person black person and I gang violence whatever you know but a white person is like we got to get these dastardly vandals or these yeah that's what they to get these dastardly vandals or these thugs.

Yes, that's what they'll call you, dastardly vandals. Well, because Cecil's all PC when a black guy's on here. So I don't want to be this little Disney channel on me. Like, I got to bleep you. You said harsh words towards black people. And it may expose my racism. So I got to pretend that I'm not okay with it. I only expose my racism so i gotta pretend that i'm not okay i only expose my racism to you off the air oh i know kids in the park that's true too

but um yeah so it's yeah there is a a place for black people who are right-winged who are especially religious who just have a disgust for the black community and a love for the white community and looks at even things like Black Lives Matter. Oh, we are peacefully protesting black people being wrongfully killed by cops and they're worse than the KKK. How? How do you reason that? So, Ishmael, if people were going to find your show, where would they look? He's in that. So, Ishmael, if people were going to find your show, where would they look? AngryBlackRant.com and where you find podcasts.

Just look for Angry Black Rant. Pretty much. Ishmael, it was a lot of fun talking to you. We look forward to shaking your pillow hands when you come down, too. Pillow hands. Man, Tom, you got to get. Well, see, I really feel like Cecil should get it. Whatever, dude, you bring it. It's fine.

You fight us both. It's cool. It's no big deal. Don't worry. And I'm so good with mine. I only punch people in the stomach because my punches are so good. It doesn't leave much bruises, you know, across the face. So I'm going to get you, Cecil.

I'm just going to wipe my tears on you for the rest of the night. I hope you like being wet. Thank you guys for having me on. It's always a blast, man. I love it. Hey, man. Thanks for coming on again. Thanks for coming on again.

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I'm gonna let you in. This story comes from Right Wing Watch. I love this. This is just, just the title alone is so fucking delightfully convoluted. Rick Joyner's friend, oh, so you know it must be good, had a revelation. My friend's dream

that the Obama administration bugged Trump's Oval Office and is leaking information. Yeah, it says Friday asserting that someone from the Obama administration left some bugs. Look, just because he's black doesn't mean he has roaches, okay?

Let's not be racist, okay? Clean up after him. So how fucking ridiculous. He can't even get his fucking White House security deposit back. You know? That's because he was paying all the time with Section 8. So. Oh, my God.

I mean, it's true. The government paid for his housing. Don't be ridiculous. Another black guy on government welfare. Get off the government, Jesus. Jesus Christ. All right, this is Rick Joyner. The whole family.

I know. God. Paying for our Ivy League schools. He's probably got one of those Obama phones. All right. So, so one of the things I noticed about Rick Joyner's face when I was watching this earlier is that he has some weird,

like his nose looks like a schnauzer nose. Cause it's cut on the side and it comes in. It's really weird. He's got a foldy foldy. He has like a little, no, it's on the sides. He has cuts on the sides.

Oh, weird. Super weird. So he's like a schnauzer. The way to check that is you get him alone in a room, just start howling, see if he howls with you. Actually, you just get him excited around cocaine and ask him to sniff it. Go ahead, sniff it, sniff it. So let me touch on a few things. A friend of mine had a revelation about there being bugs in the Oval Office, and that's where the leaks are coming from.

OK, so first they have bugs and now they don't take care of the plumbing. What a fucking, you're a racist. You're a racist. I love too that he's not denying the information. Right. He's just like, well, that's where the leaks are coming from. Well, maybe they shouldn't be saying this terrible shit and doing this terrible shit. Isn't that amazing when you hear that? It's like, oh, well, they should be quiet about it. Be like, Well, maybe they shouldn't be saying this terrible shit and doing this terrible shit. Isn't that amazing when you hear that?

It's like, oh, well, they should be quiet about it. Be like, wait, then they would just be saying it in secret. Right. If you bugged my house, you just hear nothing important or interesting. Once in a while, you'd hear. More than more often than not, actually. It's a morning and night kind of a thing. You know, it's a wake up.

Morning and night. Jeez. What is it? Is it your rest day? The best part of waking up. Is jizzing in a sock? Somebody in the Obama administration left some bugs there.

Bugs are, you know, tiny creatures that crawl around. If you're scummy or black. The White House. Roaches check in and they don't check out. They had to get the landlord to call the best.

They put one of those giant tents over it to fumigate the White House. It's really Walter White cooking nothing there. I knew Obama ran a drug house. I knew it. They're going to be the listening devices or whatever that somebody is tuning into. That could explain a lot.

It really could. Are you fucking serious right now that the fucking United States government doesn't sweep the place for bugs like on a regular basis? Cecil. They constantly have dignitaries and other people in there.

Stop, stop. His friend had a dream. Okay. I forgot, I forgot. So, you know, evidence, motherfucker. Forgive me, I forgot. You know, I'm going to be a motherfucker. Forgive me. Why don't you look at the evidence? Sometimes your friend has a special wish inside or however that works. And that's how you fuck dream. Because somebody knows the phone calls the president is making when the only two people in the room with him that absolutely should not be leaking. And I don't expect either one of them

were guilty. Well, maybe they're telling it to a confident who is then leaking it. Like it's not impossible for Steve Bannon to be saying something to someone who is untrustworthy. Steve Bannon himself is untrustworthy. The whole administration seems untrustworthy. He hires nothing but people that seem to be vetted for their untrustworthiness. Like that seems to me like the fucking number one category, right? Like he goes like the fucking Myers-Briggs personality test and it just says untrustworthy and he's like sold. Bring that guy in.

But isn't it crazy? It's got to be bugs. It can't be one of the three people in the room said something to someone else. Trump's a constant bragger, too. Right. So he could easily say this to someone else after that happens in the room. Well, not considering that he actually has a conversation with someone about what happened in that room after it happened? If you want a private conversation, do what we all do. Go out and have it in your car. So what's going on there?

I hope they get in there and sweep that room really good. Gotta clean up after that black guy. In the name of Jesus, we speak that. So Cecil, this is Cindy Jacobs. 2017, we'll see Christian media revolutionaries replace liberal media outlets that are persecuting the Christians. Look at, I picked this. Hold on. Your face, lady. Holy shit, she's snarling.

Oh my God, you have to go to this story. So go to our website and click on the story. She is snarling like a fucking schnauzer. That is amazing. She looks like a dog. That's why I picked this one. I clicked. I was like, yes, all day.

Yes. Oh my God. She's so amazing. Look at that. She's so angry. You know, her hair is going to bounce. You know, it's going to happen. Here we go.

This is Cindy Jacobs. of that she's so angry you know her hair is gonna bounce you know it's gonna happen here we go this is cindy jacobs cindy jacobs i want to remind people is the lady who had the stream of consciousness style prediction that the reason why there were drumfish dying in some river in arkansas i remember this is because of uh is because bill clinton was the fucking governor of Arkansas. And you know what? Rule was there. It's all this stream of consciousness. It was amazing.

It was David Icke style stream of consciousness. It was just a series of the most tangential connections. And it was the reason why there was all these drumfish dying. At the end of it, it was Kevin Bacon. Yeah, exactly. All right. So here's Snarling Jacobs. God is getting ready to move. Hey, yling Jacobs. God is getting ready to move.

Hey, y'all. I'm getting ready to move. I ain't moved in a long time. Down here in the South, we don't move very fast or very often. I'm looking for my morning movement. I'm getting ready. I've had some protein and coffee. I feel it coming. I do.

He just feels that. He looks like, I'll fail them tectonic plates to shift. There's something in there. Watch out Japan. A little fiber yesterday. It's going to work its way through. We should go to the prophetic outlook,

2017 package. No, you don't want that. I got a prophetic package. It's not that prophetic. It's not that big a package. It's not that prophetic. It's not that big a package. It's supernatural. No, it's completely natural.

Is there an under natural? Yeah, a subpar package. Do you have one of those? Now, I want to say something that's going to happen with this. The pressure that it's going to put on society is actually going to enrage satan and so there's going to be this persecution ridge you know that you've talked about but what is going to happen is that if they continue to persecute the church and the singers singers she must be talking about singers that uh that will stand with trump or like the news boys is she upset because somebody persecuting the news boys i would have heard not on our watch

not twice who will stand up and not be ashamed and not be in political correctness not be in political correctness you got to go in there. There's like a door. Yeah, you do. And you... You got to ask first. Do a little prep work. You really do have to ask really nicely. It better be your birthday. I'm just saying. I'm just saying if you're unwrapping

that gift, it better be your birthday. Tell me you like it, please. Please tell me you like it. Those networks, those media outlets are going to fall down. We are so mad. Gar-rur. Gar-rur. Those media outlets are going to go fall down, go boom.

What does that even mean? They're going to fall down? Evidently, all of a sudden, people are just going to stop watching and using media. Just generally speaking, media is going to be gone.

In the meantime, New York Times subscriptions are up. Fail. You know. Failing New York Times to fail. Shut the fuck up,

you fucking idiots. You have no idea. Your finger is so far from the pulse of America, you pull it out and it smells like shit. You have no idea. Your finger is so far from the pulse of America. You pull it out and it smells like shit. You have no idea. They literally have no idea. They don't know fuck all about what the United States is even about anymore.

These people will say things like, you're going to fall down and God's going to smite you. And you're just like, yeah, and New York Times is doing better than it has done in like 10 years. This is the best thing ever for news sources that are, you know, vetting the actual news. Right. Because all of a sudden people are like, fuck,

it turns out we need something reliable. Fuck. It turns out we need to turn to these state and steady sources. Yeah. You know, we, there, there is the,

the backlash swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings,

swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings,

swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings,

swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings,

swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings,

swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings,

swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, swings, Swing. What is this, Wayne's World? What the fuck is wrong with me? It's real late. No, it's real fucking late. I'm so beat. But the backlash swings. Swings again. Keep swinging. God damn it. Swing for the fences, Tom.

That's a sports analogy. I'm not actually building a fence. You know what? Fuck my whole point. I don't even care. Play this fucking snarling schnauzer bitch. I'll swing it along.

That's a swing and a miss. And the Lord is raising up an alternative voice. To present alternative facts. He sure is raising up an alternative voice. An alternative voice that endorsed Ivanka Trump

today. Did you hear about that woman? I did! Kellyanne Conway. Yeah. The Skeletor today from Castle Grayskull looked down and she said, I'll get you next time, he-man. No, but she said,

I'd fuck Skeletor before I'd put it in Kellyanne Conway. I'll tell you that much. I'll take a toothy blowjob from a skull, from a male skeleton. Fuck his rib cage. I'm just like, bro, take it, Skeletor. No, but she said, buy Ivanka's stuff, like buy her brand.

And that is a direct breaking of a certain ethics rule. It's not a rule either, it's a law. Like you're breaking a law. Yeah, but there's nobody to prosecute her. That's the thing. Nobody's ever going to fight, like the Attorney General's not going to, and Congress, nobody's going to censure her, nobody's going to press charges or anything.

Somebody has to actually do something and there's nobody to do it because they're all on her fucking side. And I wonder too. They're all going to fucking circle the wagons around this fucking skinny bitch. And it's fine. We still have Trump supporters who listen and I get I get in contact with them on occasion. I don't understand. I don't understand it either. They don't think for some reason they miss that we were left leaning for years.

I don't understand how they miss that. But what I want to know from you is how are you okay with this how is how is that cool you know there's so much shit that's happening nowadays when i see it happen i wonder how the fuck can you be cool with that how can you hear like read his tweets that talk about how it's a judge's fault if there's a terrorist attack not my fault right right that is insane you know there's there's like 20 different things that he said on Twitter that you've just been like, I've been like, how the fuck could you have voted for him

and still be in his camp? Yeah. Look, here's the thing. If you voted for him because ABC reasons fine. But at this point, a couple of weeks into this ball game and seeing the nonsense to just nonsense, the outright, you know, a lot of these people are like,

but Hillary, but Hillary. No, fuck that. She's lost. You don't get to but Hillary anymore. I want to know why you still support. Don't tell me why you did support at the election. Why do you still support now? Yeah.

Right. It's okay to change your mind. It's all right. You know, when they're doing shit like this, they lied to you, man. They lied to you. When she's doing, when she's talking about alternative facts And the Bowling Green Massacre

And fucking shit that never happened And then she's talking about buying a vonker You should buy a vonker shit She expressly said this is a commercial And then fucking Trump tweeting out That Nordstrom's a bad place Because they're taking a shit What the fuck man

Are you seriously that far Your head that far up his ass that you're willing to let that go and i don't want to hear any of this like we've got to give him room and see what he does we still have two weeks you know what he's done he just he signed like a fucking million executive orders already and none of them are good you know a bunch of shit that he's done yeah look at the people he's appointed to his fucking cabinet yeah and he's. You know, you're talking about the Muslim ban, which has been overturned twice in a row now. Third time's a charm. Third time is the Supreme Court.

Well, it's 4-4 now. They better slow that shit down and not bring it right away. Because if they bring it right away, it'll be a tie. But if they don't and they wait until fucking GORUCK gets in, then there's a good possibility depends on where he stands in immigration right but the democrats showed

that they don't have any power to stop anything they have no like the republicans did right why is it the republicans are so much better at obstructing the republicans were so good at being in a minority position and still fucking cock blocking. Yeah. Sons of bitches. They were the most cock blocking us motherfuckers ever. Well, one, one thing that's interesting is, uh, today,

Senator Elizabeth, this was a couple of days ago, Senator Elizabeth Warren was removed from the floor, right? So she was removed from the floor for reading a letter and she was removed by this really obscure rule, uh, rule 19,

I think it's called, um, which is also weirdly the same rule that they use to kill all the jedi in star wars um but they they removed her for this obscure rule and uh and it's it's that you're not allowed to insult another another senator right you're not allowed to insult them uh at all on the floor yeah it's a don't call me a duty head rule. Yeah, exactly. And she did it by quoting another senator from 20 years ago when he was going to be a judge and they were reading letters from people then.

And the two letters that she read were from those that time when he was not fit to be a judge. First of all, the idea that this rule even exists. Yeah, it's silly. Right? Yeah. That, you know, don't hurt my feelings

even though I'm a fucking big boy rule. Yeah, it's a snowflake rule. Yeah that shit that's that's a nonsense rule again that's for cowards right i don't want to feel bad what did ted cruz fucking write that rule nobody say anything mean it'll hurt my soft pieces inside if you do i'll i'll i'll i'll pillow punch you in the face and then elbow you in the face and then hug you. But even so, like, it's not like she was like reading a letter called, fuck you, asshole. Like she was reading a letter that was, it was just like, yeah, you know, I've got some sharply worded criticism, but nothing. I mean, people have said worse to me today.

Exactly. Today. You steal someone's parking, people have said worse to me today. Exactly. Today. You steal someone's parking space and they say worse shit. Right. And what happened is she got removed and then it blew up. And so a couple other people read this letter afterwards and there's a suspicion that they didn't send them out for reading this letter because it was going to just be another media shitstorm that they wanted to avoid. But one of the things that happens, I think, is that imagine if the Democrats did this, right? Imagine if during Obama, the Democrats did something like this to someone where they took them off the floor.

And now somebody had sent me a message today on Twitter about how Nancy Pelosi cut the mics on the whole floor to stop them from voting on to stop a vote that was going to happen on offshore drilling that that they were done talking about and they didn't want to have the vote or something like that. And so she cut the mics and she cut the cameras to C-SPAN. OK. She did this in like 2004, I think, or so in 2008. And then the Republicans did the exact same thing to the Democrats in the house again in 2016, when they wanted to sit in for the, for the gun thing that they wanted to do. They did the exact same thing to the Democrats. And so somebody sent that to me and said, oh, well, it's already happened. The Democrats have already done it. And I'm like, yeah, but the Republicans did the exact same thing. And it's not the same

thing. It's not the exact same thing. They missed that point that it's not the same yeah, but the Republicans did the exact same thing. And it's not the same thing as censure. It's not the exact same thing. They missed that point, that it's not the same thing. But even still, they are willing to overlook when their party does it to point out when your party doesn't. You're like, yeah, but you guys did the same thing. And then they're like, and then when you do it, they even did this on Twitter. And then when you do it, they call it a stunt. They're like, oh, well, when Pelosi did it, it was a stunt. You're thinking, well, what happened when they did it? It's either always a stunt or it's never a stunt they're like oh well well when when uh when pelosi did it it was a stunt you're thinking well when what happened when they did it's either always a stunt or it's never a

stunt but but there's a selective narrative there that they're that they're willing to and i think they're willing to go farther than the liberals the liberals are not willing to push hard enough on this stuff those those obscure rules and the sort of political combat that they would, you know, that sort of fighting knowledge to use these rules

against them. They do seem much better at it. They're better at it, and they're also just willing to use it, right? They're ruthless. They're willing to use it in a different way. And I don't know if that's a bad, like, I don't know. Like, I kind of like being on the party that side that's not willing to use that stuff all the time. And I could be wrong, right? There's a chance I'm wrong and that the Democrats do it all the time too, right? I was today when they showed me that thing, I was like, I was pretty surprised. I was like, oh, wow, they did.

They did quiet everything right from TV, but they didn't quiet them in general. But you know what I mean? Like, so there's a, but it's nowhere near the same thing as kicking all her thing, right? From TV, but they didn't quiet them in general. But you know what I mean? But it's nowhere near the same thing as kicking the senator out, right? That's just not even remotely comparable to the same thing. It's not the same thing. That it's media revolutionaries. I'm telling you the spirit of God. There's going to be YouTube revival.

There's going to be social networking. Oh, my God. I would love to see this one on YouTube. YouTube's revival, Tom. The comment section on YouTube for Cindy Jacobs has got to be a horror show. The YouTube section for everything on YouTube is a horror show. New ideas. There's going to be these media revolutionaries are going to take away the

wealth of these liberal networks that have dared touch the apple of god's eye god she's mad the apple of god's eye a little known fact that's the male prostate i put it i see i stuck the apple when i when i made the apple of god's eyeuck it right up in the bum there because we know what happens when you all get to apples. That explains why he was so grouchy when Adam grabbed it. Y'all gotta ask for permission. I said no.

No means no. Get the hell out of here. No means no unless you're praised. You want answers? I think I'm entitled. You want answers! I want the truth! You can't handle the truth! This is fucking weird, man. Have you ever

heard of this shit before? Uh, no. Yeah, alright, so this is from the Friendly Atheist blog. Philadelphia woman, now married to Jesus, consecrated by Catholic Church's extra fancy virgin. Them's fancy virgins. Actually,

hold on. I'm just going to stop you there. An extra fancy virgin. Leave it to the Catholic Church for a voluntary grading system on virgins. Of course, you kind of need it when you're raping kids, right? It's like that ripe sticker on the avocado. You need to know.

I love the idea that you can walk up to them and say, like, virgin, first pressing. If it's a voluntary independent grading system, then it'd kind of be like a Yelp review. And to be honest, you know, when you're raping the kid, that is a sound they make. Yelp is this. Yelp. Nope. That's it. Somebody else can sit here across from me. You're a fucking monster. All right. Jesus Christ.

God damn it, man. Tom, four stars. All right. Never mind. Yeah. It's four out of 20. I'll still go with it. I was shooting for three.

So, all right. I, I overshot. So as long as you're a perpetual virgin, which means that you ain't been fucked, you haven't fucked and you promise not to fuck. Perpetual virgin.

Yeah. Did they make their own energy? Yeah. Their own, their own sexual energy, right? Perpetual virgin. Isn't that just like world of Warcraft player?

We're going to get all these fucking emails. Hey man. Hey, hey, my sister. I'm not the only one that plays with my wizard staff. I had sex in game like four times. I'm pretty sure one of those was a girl.

I cybered with like four girls. One of them was a seal. I grabbed a whole lot of pointy ears from her. It's late. I rode her like a donkey. It's so late. We should never record this. We should always record this.

My face hurts. I know. I can't. I'm so slapped. I can't do it anymore. My face is like. I can't. I'm so slapped. My face is like, I just can't do it. If you get a fucking dragon,

you got to find a loose scale. I shoved it back there, guys. I hid it right in the treasure chest, if you know what I mean. I gave her my bag of gold. Oh my gosh, she got pregnant with my bastard short. Oh God. Alright, so if you're a perpetual virgin, oh God.

Perpetual virgin. Then the Catholic Church will let you get married to Jesus. Yeah, because. Which is fucking super weird. You become a consecrated virgin, which I think that means that you can do the Hyman maneuver. Only once. only once that's also that's different than the hymen remover different also only once oh man oh so these people are weird man this lady this lady yeah she got she got a she dem fancy virgin she got all tuxedoed up in her little dress and she marched down the aisle and married jesus i guess that's a thing in the catholic church you just marry jesus would it be disappointing to

do that the groom always keeps you waiting at the altar also also to be honest i mean jesus's hands are not terribly functional so functional. So he better be a face sitter. You know what I mean? He's one of those guys because he's not going to be able to do much fiddling. You know what I mean? You got to warm. You're not warming that up with the old, you know, that's not a push start. It's a push start.

I want to read a part of this though, because they talk about Jesus. I guess Jesus saved some horse and this is some horse. He saved some horse from being raped. What? I don't know. I never read this, but it says, and let me find it here real quick.

Yeah. The whole consecrated virgin thing has a long history in the Catholic church with Mary technically being the first one. Some early saints, St. Lucia, St. Agnes, and St. Agatha were also consecrated virgins and all of them have a similar story. Each one decided that she was going to be

consecrated virgin but was so beautiful that dudes who wanted to marry them freaked out and tossed them into brothels. Then Jesus stepped in and kept all the rapists at bay with magic. And in Agnes's case, hair grew instantly all over her whole body. And anyone who tempted the raper was struck blind.

What the fuck kind of story is this? Hair was stuck all over. And what the fuck? You become fucking teen wolf. And the best part is, is there's a bunch of dudes are just like yep well any port in a storm i don't care whatever i gotta rape something jesus so uh hey you know i'm gonna rape this uh this bigfoot over here well what what none of this makes any sense like i love the idea it's like man that chick is beautiful you want to get married no well i go be a whore in this brothel. Fucking, what is that?

Your second option? How is that like? I would really like you to be my wife. I'm going to go ahead and take a pass on that one. Well, whore in a brothel. It's like, what? What? So we want to thank our newest patrons.

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This week is episode 343. So check out Aaron's image. This is an image of Trump. It's a modified image that I really like. It's really well done. Yeah, I think it looks great. I think it's probably the best picture of Trump I've seen in a long time. So this message is from Bill,

and Bill sent this great article about this. Trump this week made a comment about, he made a comment about a Senator that was from Texas and the Senator from Texas, there was a sheriff or something that was in his office and a bunch of people standing around and the Senator says,

or the, the sheriff says something about how the, the, a Senator wanted to pass a bill that people actually had to be convicted before they had civil forfeiture. And Trump said, shook his head and said, do you want to give his name?

We can ruin his career. And he's clearly joking, but at the same time, not joking. Right. Like, so like, like it's funny,

but it's also kind of like a threat. It's an incredibly crazy, mean spirited thing to say. And so this, uh, Dalen Leach, um, who's a Pennsylvania state,

state Senator said, Hey, I oppose civil asset forfeiture too. Why don't you come after me? You fascist, the loofah faced shit. Given that dude

that's fucking amazing you know we may not win the most rudest shit you could say or whatever the trolliest shit but we're going to win the funniest every time that is fucking brilliant that's so funny

we got a ton of messages about Nazis so many so many messages about Nazis. So many. So many messages about Nazis. We hope we cleared all that up with this. With our calm and rational discussion. So remember, guys, if you peel a bunch of... That's so good. fist.

It's so good. So Elvis and his lovely wife sent in a very short narrative of how birth control works for the people who, and this is specifically for Neil Gorsh,

so that people understand how birth control works. We're talking about the Hobby Lobby decision last week, and they put put this together and I think it's great. So it's kind of like the, how a bill becomes a law of fucking. It's really great. No, excellent job. Excellent job on this.

Okay, you guys, this is how birth control and morning after pills work. If a woman is fertile and there's an egg waiting to catch a sperm, the mucus in the vagina and fallopian tube, which the sperm has to find and swim into to get to the egg, is all slippery. Easy for those little X and Y carrying spermies to swim through.

If she's on the pill, or takes a morning after pill, the mucus gets thicker and stickier. Not too thick for a normal sized penis, but for those little spermies, it's like swimming through oatmeal. This all was developed and tested by scientists who allowed for exceptions and variations. They will admit there's a slight possibility of a fertilized egg getting stuck in the sticky stuff and dying. While this is probably rare and maybe never happened, scientists will tell the truth and will admit this possibility.

And fertilized eggs are not people. So in Chicago, on April 15th, which happens to be the week, I think, before ReasonCon. It is. So Anthony Magna Bosco is the street epistemology person from YouTube. He is coming to Chicago

at the Ethical Atheist Human Society. It's going to be in Skokie. And they are going to be having a... He's going to be in Skokie and they are going to be having a, he's going to be doing a talk called Street Epistemology Gaining Momentum. We had a chance to meet a couple of people from the Chicago Atheist Society

this last, when we were doing GAM, GAM Live. Lovely people, very sweet. Absolutely. Wonderful experience. And they were great. So we're hoping that a bunch of people come to this. We're going to post this flyer that they gave us on this week's show. So if you're interested in coming to Chicago on April 15th, which is a Saturday, uh, you can catch this, uh, lecture, which is at 6 PM and, uh, and it should be great. So we got a message

from Jeffrey and Jeffrey says, um, if you could offer some advice on how to do some fact checking so that I can use so I can definitely tell my Jackoff buddies that Alex Jones and the like are full of shit. You know, it might be useful to go down the rabbit hole with them a little bit. So in other words, if they have an Alex Jones thing, just pause. Take it claim by claim and say, okay, let's find his source of evidence for every claim. Yeah. That's a good way to do it. Right. And you won't find them because he doesn't have them. He doesn't, he doesn't do what everybody reputable does, which is to say a thing and then source it, say a thing and then source it and said, he says a thing and he said, and everybody does this so that it's on the crazy side, right? Say a lot of things real fast,

assert without evidence and do it real fast so you have no time to stop and think. So find one of his videos where he's making a bunch of claims. Every time he makes a claim that should be demonstrable in one way or another

or should require some kind of fact or evidence, pause it and say, okay, let's find it. Yeah, let's find it together. Let's find it on his site. You know what that is? That's very street epistemology-like.

There we go. You know what I mean? In a lot of ways, it's, and you know, another way to do this would be to say, okay, well, how do we know that this is true? Yeah. You know, use that street epistemology. You know, that's a great, that's a great method because they aren't going to look to the New York Times or the other reputable sources.

What they're going to do is say, well, those sources aren't reputable. Okay, well, find me where it actually happened. Yeah. And if you can search it up, because one of the things that I would work on is the Podesta emails. Because if he says anything about the Podesta emails,

those are searchable. You can find what he's saying. Easily. You can find what he's saying. So good luck, Jeff. I hope it works out for you. Got a message from Wally in Maryland. And he said that

one thing that we missed during 342, when we were talking about Trump in the rain, is that maybe according to the Russians, Trump likes golden showers. He likes to be sprinkled on. We got another image. This is from the advice troll. And they sent in an image of Trump that just says resist on the bottom. It's a really great image. He looks so angry there. It's the best.

I love how his two little teeth are out. He looks like a little rat. Yeah, and he's got his folded fucking pussy eyes. I love it. I love it. Yeah, his vagina eyes. Eye vaginas. So we're going to post this on this episode's show notes.

It's 3.43. I'm going to post this video. We talked about last week, and was when we talking about talking to Dan Errol. We had this conversation about what do you do if people aren't answering your questions? What do you do as a journalist? If they're saying fake news,

I'm not going to answer your questions. And here's a situation on this British TV show. I literally have no idea what they're talking about. I don't know what, I don't know what, I don't know what, it doesn't matter, but're talking about. I don't know what, I don't know what, I don't know what. It doesn't matter, but it's brilliant.

I don't know what they're, I literally have no idea what they're having a conversation about. But that being said, the gist of it is never stop asking the question. And even the Brits

who are notoriously polite, still, I mean, at one point he's like, I'm going to be very rude here and continue to ask this question. It's really brilliant. This guy never answers the question. But I will say this. At the end of it, I thought that guy was a total douchebag.

So check it out. It's on this episode's show notes. We got a couple of new listeners. We got a message from Jake who said, hey, I just want to let you know you're my newest favorite show. He says, it's as if my degenerate friends and I made a podcast. And a lot of people say that. A lot of people say that.

I think it's like sitting down with friends. So we're glad your friends are horrible people too, Jake. So we got a message from Alex. And Alex, first off, Alex, eggnog is not delicious. You are high. But Alex has said you know I'm curious about how there's sort of this despair that's creeping

into your voice lately there's this feeling of despair that's coming over you guys and you know I noticed your outburst it's talking about me specifically my outbursts have become more common I'm not saying you do this you don't have ever reason for an outburst.

I'm writing you because I can't fall asleep after listening to your show the first week. And if you hadn't heard our show the first week, this is a show that came out as a midweek show we did a couple of weeks ago. It was right after Trump's first week in office. Go back and listen to it. Go back and find it.

We talk about what happened during that first week. Piece by piece. Piece by piece. And some people found it actually pretty disturbing. They listened to it and they're like, man, it's so depressing. There's not a lot of jokes in that episode. There's not a lot of funny. And

I recognize that. But there is one kernel of hope that I have on all of this. There's a lot of kernels of hope, actually. I have a lot of hope. I see them floating too. I have a lot of these kernels. And one of them clearly is that private institutions are really starting to pick up the slack for governmental institutions. Something I'd said in the first hundred days. So I remember. And it's really happening. It's really starting to happen. You're starting to see steam where people are donating to Planned Parenthood. People are donating to places to get that money that the government was going to take away from those players. You're starting to see that happen and it's going to keep happening. Environmental

protection agency may, you know, eventually whatever, go under or something. But I have a feeling that there will be some sort of civilian led thing that will take its place because that, that want and that need is there. But one of the things that I've also noticed, and this is on my Facebook feed, right? So I know a bunch of history buffs because I belong to a history organization that I've talked about before in the past. And a lot of these guys are really not terribly involved in politics. I rarely see political posts from most of these people. But I will say this, there's a lot of really smart fucking people in that group. There's a lot of really smart people. And I'm thinking of one guy in particular that I know. And I've been friends with him for about 25 years. And and I've been friends with him for about 25 years and uh and because I've been doing this this thing for about 25 years and I've been friends

with him for a very long time and he's been always quasi-political right he's never been like you know like a hundred percent million percent full full bore but he's been quasi-political he's one of the smartest guys I know he is is motivated. Really? You made a huge mistake. You know, like you made a huge mistake when you started doing this stuff, when he started pushing back and he started doing all this stuff. This guy is motivated. He's posting shit to do every day.

He's talking about all the stuff he does. He's talking about all the grassroots shit as well as all the big picture stuff to do. And he's a really smart dude. And I can't imagine. grassroots shit as well as all the big picture stuff to do. He's a really smart dude. I can't imagine. He's not the only one.

He's just the only one you have. He's not the only one I know. I know a bunch of these guys from this history organization that are starting to become a lot more political, but he's the smartest one I know. There's a lot of really smart guys out there right now that are motivated for this. And you really shook up a hornet's nest here.

And I want people to realize that this fire that people have I don't think is going to go away. Because Trump's not going to stop doing stupid shit, people. He's going to do stupid shit the entire time he's in office. I think he'll do stupider and stupider shit, actually, as he grows more desperate. So understand that there's a hugely – there's a bigly motivated base of people. It's so huge. And I think they're going to stay motivated. And I think that that's a, that's a sign of hope.

I think that's a real sign of hope. And it's a sign of, I mean, I'm just impressed with, with the fire that is in these people. And, and the marches are going to keep going and people are going to keep fighting. They better for two years, man. We better keep this shit up for two years. Two years for sure. We get another image for Trump.

And it's perfect. It's absolutely perfect. I do think that Trump has that mane of body hair on him. Oh, no, you know what? I bet you he's bald up there. Sort of bald. Because you can't tan with all that stuff on there.

That's true. It probably just melts off after a while. So we want to thank Ishmael Brown, of course, for coming on the show. Ishmael is a fun guest. We love doing stuff with Ishmael.

He's a riot. He's a funny guy. He puts on a great show. Angry Black Rain is an excellent podcast. If you haven't heard it, Ish is a great host. He's a funny, clever guy, and he puts on a really good show. So give it a listen if you haven't yet.

He invited us to come on his show, so we'll let you know when that happens in the future. That should be fun. I'm looking forward to having you. It's like a reverse Oreo. So thank you, Ish, for coming on. We'll put a link to his show in the show notes. Before we leave though, someone put together a skeptics creed. And the skeptics creed

Tom, what I love about this is they put in the woman who sits next to Jim Baker. I don't even know her name because she's Mrs. Jim Baker. I don't know her name. She's the bobblehead. Yeah. And she just says yeah all the time. And they put in all of the, this is Kevin, and Kevin

put in all of the yeses and the sort of nodding along that she does to Tom reading the skeptics creed. So enjoy that to close out the show today. Credulity is not a virtue. It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue hypno babylon bullshit

yeah couched in scientician double bubble toil and trouble pseudo quasi alternative acupunctuating pressurized stereogram pyramidal free energy healing water downward spiral brain dead pan sales pitch late night info docutainment yeah leo pisces cancer cures detox reflex foot massage death and towers tarot cards psychic healing crystal balls bigfoot yeti aliens churches mosques and synagogues temples dragons giant worms atlantis dolphins truthers birthers witches wizards nuts, shaman healers, evangelists, conspiracy, double-speak, stigmata, nonsense. Yeah. Expose your signs.

Sure. Thrust your hands. Of course. Bloody. Yeah. Evidential. Wow. Conclusive.

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