Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 362: Waiting 4 Wrath

Episode Date: June 5, 2017

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The explicit tag is there for a reason. recording live from glory Hole Studios in Chicago, this is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence. 20 topics that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there is no welcome mat this is episode 362 of cognitive dissonance but cecil i gotta tell you man i'm not 100 ready to start this episode why is that well i have not had the requisite amount of cavife today you gotta have your daily your daily requirement of Kvifife. I have, you know...

Am I pronouncing it right? I think it's Belgian. It's not real clear. Okay. It's not real clear. Yeah. But the president and a handful of people have had the amount of Kvifife. And it's true. I was thinking about Kvifife

earlier today, and I thought, how wonderful would some Kvifife and Toffife be. And you know, I was thinking about Cavifee earlier today, and I thought, how wonderful would some Cavifee and Toffifee be together? I know, right? You know? Yeah. It just, I feel like it's like a match. It's just like a, it's a, it's a match made in heaven. Delicious.

Speaking of matches made in, well, I don't know about that. A match. It's a match. It's a match. It's a match, buddy. Cause we are joined. It's like, it's like the, what was that dating game? Like the matchy matchy dating game. Do you know what i'm talking about no no that's like the rapey rapey dating

it's like well this is like a match on grinder let's welcome let's welcome our guests all right so we are joined by jen and aaron from the waiting for wrath podcast welcome welcome to Welcome to us. I'm the grinder side of things. So how about you, Aaron? I guess that means I have to take the Tinder. Bend over and take it. You better swipe fucking right. Hey, I'm not picky, man. We live in

Wyoming. There aren't enough people here to be picky. That's true. Jesus Christ, I forgot that they were in Wyoming. Isn't there like a popular city named after a porn star there? Cheyenne. Yeah. I like that.

Not the other way around. No, that's how it is. They didn't have a name for it before. It was just called this place. And then... Defined a popular city. I guess that's true. Doesn't a city have to have a populace

in order for it to be popular? That's fair. How big is Cheyenne? We got mountains named after tits. 50,004 according to the sign. Something like that, yeah. In a city of 50,000 people?

Oh my gosh, that's cute. That's great. On Tinder in Wyoming, is it all bighorn sheep or just mostly bighorn sheep? Well, I mean, we have an Uber now. We did. We got our first Uber. But I haven't seen a bighorn sheep? Well, I mean, we have an Uber now. We did. We got our first Uber. But I haven't seen a bighorn sheep in like

days. Yeah, we got our Uber. We got the Ubers now. Oh, it's just that one guy. He's got to be busy. Well, yeah. The horse can only pull so many people a day, but you know. Well, and we spend 90% of our time drinking, so. Just some old Amish guy.

Where are you going? I'm going to town. I'm going to church and town. Those are the options. There's 75 bars. You know where you're going? There's only one place to go. Fine.

Maybe to the general store. Well, you know, there's downtown and a field. It's easy that way. Thank you to the general store. Well, you know, there's downtown in a field. It's easy that way. So we ran into the Waiting for Wrath podcast at ReasonCon. I want to tell a story of running into the Waiting for Wrath podcast.

So I am hanging out by the bar that closed at like 9.05 or something. I don't even know. Speaking of Amish things, the Amish bar. They go, oh, it's getting a little dark out. Exactly. Yeah.

So I'm hanging out there and some very hairy guy comes walking up to me out of nowhere. And I genuinely like, I don't remember what he said. He said something sexual at a certain point. I said sure you can grab my dick or something and he walked away and then that

was the end of the all his friends usher him away as fast as possible the next day I was approached by four different waiting for wrath members and they all apologized individually for this guy

they're like we're sorry. He's our Yeti. We don't ever take him out, you know? And I was like, yeah, it's fine. No, it's no big deal. I genuinely don't even remember what happened. Do you have to get tags for your Yeti or like a leash? Like, how does that work?

Well, I begged for not a restraining order. I do remember that part. Oh, he's got a leash now. Did you guys reserve enough internet from Wyoming state internet or however that works out there? We would like to use the internet for today, Wyoming. Man, they're going to fly it in on a pigeon.

You have no idea. What is this internet of which you speak? You would not believe the number of pigeons it takes to get my voice to Chicago. Is that what I use to not get pregnant? Them inner tubes? The internets? That's when we tie off the bandwidths on them inner tubes.

Well, they're made out of sheepskin, right? That's right. Okay. Just checking. So the second day. So there I am the second day. They come up and they all like come up and apologize to me. In like a pile or a row?

No, they wanted a time to like, can I kiss your ring? And I was like, sure, no problem. And then I and then. I got to put a ring on my dick. Later on in the day, later on in the day, I'm leaving. This was after the big party, right? After everybody's, you know, everybody's already drinking. I didn't drink that night, but I'm walking out.

Jen comes walking up to me and she's like, hey, how, how are you doing? You know, I was going to call bullshit earlier, but now I'm really calling bullshit. I'm like, how are you? And she's like, she looks at me and she's kind of doing that, you know, like when somebody is like really drunk and they're kind of like sort of like leaning wheat, like they're just listing, they're just sort of like listing back and forth. They're straight

up and down. But I am leaning back and forth and she looks at me and she goes, who am I? And I was like, oh, fuck. She wants me to call her mommy. I don't know that one. I don't know that one. I want to do this. Check her ID first. I go, you're Jen from Way to Breath. And she goes, good.

And I was like, okay. I didn't realize that was the first question. That was the first question in the test. I didn't realize. Well, I'm the weirdest person ever. And then I walk outside and everybody kind of, again, like the Yeti, they sort of usher her away from me. Well, it's a good thing it wasn't

like a five-day podcast. Everybody would have taken a turn. But the thing that really sucks is the next day I didn't get all the apologies. I still wanted all the apologies because that was a lot of fun. Man. Well, we're super sorry that one of our hosts tried to make out with you. And it wasn't this one, I guess.

I was just too busy trying to stay upright. Nine or ten rum and cokes later, I forget. If it makes you feel any better, actually it should make you feel worse, Cecil, because he tried to mouth kiss about seven other men at the conference, and so I was doing a lot of apologizing the next day. He just

followed them around with mouth spray, like no, no, no, just a squirt bottle, like an errant cat. The best thing about that is that you think you're joking. Well, he is legally blind. He is legally blind, so he has a blind cane, which I have to take away from him sometimes and whack him with it.

And then I'm arrested for assaulting someone with a handicap, and it just goes to shit from there. Nothing gets you to a bar faster than being able to wrap people on the shins with a blind cane, though. That is a handy talent. I have found you by echolocation. Whack.

So we wanted to talk to you guys about this story from the mirror.co.uk. ISIS reveals ISIS reveal. I would have read that wrong. I would have pluralized it. ISIS reveals six reasons why they despise Westerners as terrorist sister claims he wanted

revenge for U.S US airstrikes in Syria. This article, which is published by ISIS, I guess, is titled... ISIS Monthly or something? Like, Jihadist Times or fucking whatever it is.

Jihadist Digest, the monthly exploding quarterly. Yeah, the last page that says this episode will explode in five, four, three... Find out what seven things in your kitchen can make a bomb. The burkas that will drive him wild. What?

Have you hit your woman in just the right manner? When is it time for a backhand? Find out now. Hit her like she wants it. Yeah, it's pretty much, you just turn the page,

it's like any time. Any time is good for a backhand. All of the time. Any time. You should be hitting her with this magazine. Instructions on how to roll it up and hit her on the nose.

It's made with extra thick pages. It's like, no. Bad fifth wife. Bad fifth wife. No, I'm fourth wife. Ah, whatever. How to know when her eyes are sassing you. Don't look at me in that tone of voice. Outrageous.

Ridiculous. How dare you? The article was titled, and I love the title, and I do actually like this title, because it is insanely unequivocal. Right? I do appreciate, you know, I don't want to say like radical honesty is just an excuse to be an asshole. But like this is honesty taken to a level that at this point I just have to admire. The article is titled, Why hate you and want to fight you it's like a third grader wrote it it's like a trumpian level of honesty it really is man

i wonder why they hate us they want to fight us oh read this article why we hate you so it's the kind of honesty you get from a four-year-old pushing you on the playground well first there was the lunch thing. The reason why they hate us is because we checked no in the box, right? But yeah, there's not a lot of vague here in this. You don't have to read into it.

And I like this because it really kind of puts to bed some of that nonsense like, well, it's really for complex geopolitical reasons. Right. The fuck it is. See, so can you put this on the big board?

My computer's not working. For sure. Also, it's not a computer. It's not. It's an iPad. We don't let you have a computer. So I thought we could go through the six reasons, not in any great depth or detail. I like that it's six reasons. They made a movie, 10 Things I Hate About You. They can't even come up with 10.

These people are underachievers. 13 reasons why? If you can really find six reasons to hate me, you are not paying attention. That's just lazy journalism. I find six reasons to hate Westerners just right this second. We're going to find out that the six reasons aren't actually six reasons, it westerners just right this second yeah we're gonna find out we're gonna

find out that these the six reasons aren't actually six reasons like two reasons right right yeah it i've never been hated for only six reasons yeah i'm just like i actually feel fucking validated by this article i walked away i felt warm i felt fuzzy i like this i feel underachieving your life goals under 100 well they were actually going to write a top 10 list, but they blew up after six. The timer was off. We hit the wrong button. They were counting down the wrong thing.

And the number one reason we hate you is... That's the seventh time we've tried that. Somebody get the new counter. This is not working. I don't know why they're Indian, but there you go. You ever get like, you know, like fidgety, like while you're writing or whatever and you're trying to think and you've got a pen and you're just like, click, click, click,

click, click, click. I just like, you got the, you got your bomb vest. I'm like, hmm. What do I do? Click, fuck, shit, boom. There's some prankster in the corner just keeps texting the person. You've killed 17 of your comrades without even knowing it like that's not a that's not a that's not a big

is you're just like fucking text stop no stop fuck oh yes stl there we go your your mobile rates will apply we're so proud of little Johnny for blowing himself up we even paid the long distance fees that's how much we hate you paid for Verizon and a rack are virgins waiting for them in the cloud the O cloud maybe

well the cloud thing is I mean like Well the cloud thing is I mean like the The afterlife cloud thing Is fair when you turn to mist It takes a lot of 70 years To put your back together For your virgins It's just like

Start with the borders Start with the borders And you work your way in Your virgins are like 80 years old We've all made. You're virgins are like 80 years old. We've all made each other not virgins. We're all lesbians.

Like shit. Now I have to bomb heaven. Where do I go after that? Mega heaven. Their eyes are sassing me. I can tell. I read the magazine. All right.

So that's a callback. Let's go through these. The first one is because you are disbelievers. He says, we hate you first and foremost because you're disbelievers. You reject the oneness of Allah, whether you realize it or not. I like that part. It's like, well, I thought I was not

doing that. No, you are. Ignorance is no excuse, man. I realized it. The last time Ola tried to be one with me with a little pinky trick, I shut that shit down. He says, by making partners for him in worship, you blaspheme against him, claiming that he has a son. You fabricate lies

against his prophets and messengers, and you indulge in all manner of devilish practices. I don't even understand what that means. By making partners For him in worship Who's doing that? I think it's talking about

Jesus and the Holy Ghost No Christian that I know Thinks of Allah Allah and Jehovah God I think have been interchangeable In where the religions kind of came from So I think that's what they're saying They're saying you've taken Allah Turned it into into a god who's got a partner and a son

oh jehovah god filthy filthy heathen yeah i like that jehovah allah he's starting this in like an essay form like we hate you first and then he's gonna go into like the body statements i will seek to prove the following hatred. That is a well-sourced thesis right there. I hate you because... I appreciate the work you put into this. See, right? You know, he got this published in a journal recently.

It's a whole thing. It only cost him 70 virgins. Where the page is like all shiny. No, but they were sticky when he was done. Oh, from beating his wife with it? That's right. Well, I don't think any of us are going to argue with this. So, shiny. No, but they were sticky when he was done. Oh, from beating his wife with it? That's right. Well, I don't think any of us are going to argue with this. So, yeah.

Yeah, right. I indulge in devilish eggs on occasion. Not practices, but... Well, those are spicy. All manner of devilish practices. I feel like they should be a little more specific so I can create a checklist. Yeah, exactly.

So I can check it twice. I don't feel like a day is complete until I fabricated some lies against holiness. I don't know. It's like trying to stitch somebody's skin back on you and you're just like, oh, I gotta check that box. I forgot. Does it count if it doesn't fit? I don't know.

Do you fuck me? I'd use three of these women. Jesus. Would you splode me? I'd splode me. It puts a law on its skin and then it lets the blasphemy begin. Yeah,

but the suicide bomber girls, you got to put them back together like a quilt. There's only one or two important parts. Don't worry. You can beat the stuffing out of them again later.

It's fine. It's like a patchwork. It's like a raggedy bear. Because you are liberal, we hate you because you're saccharum. Saccharum? That's not a thing. That's cabife.

That kid is cabife. We hate you because of cabife. We hate you because you're secular. Liberal societies permit the very things that Allah has prohibited while banning many of the things he has permitted. I read that and I thought, what the fuck are you like a secular society? What, what is it that we are prohibiting that he has permitted? That actually doesn't make any sense. I don't get the next part where he's, where he says Christian disbelief and paganism 32. Like what is that? A new paganism?

Christian disbelief and paganism 32. What is that? A new paganism? It's like when you're a 33rd level Mason. You're a 32nd level pagan. My pagan casting is over 9,000, you guys. I really think he's upset at

Baskin and Robin and what it has done to our country. You're like, Tasty, you're like, Drew it again? I mean, we had drew it yesterday. It only has one flavor, and it's sadness. There's 32 flavors of paganism right now, and I prefer Rocky Road.

That's what she said? 33rd flavor is nail bomb. You really taste the iron? It's fortified. Is this ice cream halal? Number three is because some of you are atheists. In the case of the atheist fringe, we hate you and wage war against you because

you disbelieve in the existence of your lord. That's redundant. Number one, just use subheadings. This is like the Ten Commandments and they're like, yeah, you can't like God and you can't like other gods and you can't do graven images

and you can't really do... And you're like, fucking just use a subheading. That's like four commandments we're going to say. Seriously, this is sloppy writing. You could lump all this into because you're not Muslim.

Yeah. Right? The first one. Well, I think he's just saying that, I mean, not only are we disbelievers, we're fringe. I don't want to be called friends.

Do you want to be called fringe? Yeah. I want to be called fringe. I'm good. Yeah. I am called friend. Of course I am. But that's what he's saying.

So we are the, yeah, we're the subheading. I see. I like that. It's because you're atheist. Like the numbers, like it's some closet case

or corner case shit. Numerically, it's like, yeah, because some of you are atheists. Yeah, we don't mind a whole lot of us. That seems like you're bombing a lot of people that you're not mad at. Just lump us all into the same thing. Right. No, it would be easier and it would save space in his essay.

Absolutely. And most of us can't even agree upon the conceptual penis anyway. See, right? So, like, I mean, Jesus, you know? Oh, that's my favorite subject right now. I love that. Love that. Alright, number four is for your crimes against Islam. We hate you for your

crimes against Islam and wage war against you to punish you for your transgressions against our religion. See, number one. This guy is either being paid by the word or he was told, you will come up with six reasons. You will have six by two o'clock.

Okay, fuck. Because number five is for your crime against Muslims. We just had crimes against Islam a minute ago. And so we hate you for your crimes against the Muslims, your drones and fighter jets bomb kill and maim our people around the world and your puppets

in the usurped lands of the Muslims oppress, torture and wage war against anyone who calls to the truth. He was asked for four pages and he had this at like 14 point font and like double space and sizing it. He's like spacing it like 2.25

so it's a little less noticeable. This strikes me as like the rookie cop trying to get you for as many things as he can like public intoxication, nudity, evading arrest. Like man, I was just trying to penguin away from the dumpster I was pissing on. This doesn't need to turn into a big

old federal thing. Aaron's a hell of a time on Saturday night. This sounds like bitter experience, my friend. I'm just saying there's only one dumpster and we have to take turns. So you got to make it quality time. Quality over quantity, gentlemen. Yeah. So what's the difference in Islam crimes and Muslim crimes?

One of them is ideological and the other one is punchy. He's saying, you know, your drones and your fighter jets bomb and kill and maim our people. Yeah, I'm kind of against it too, bro. We're on the same page here. I don't think that, but I'm not physically bombing anyone. Yeah, remember when

you had that drone full of bombs? No, you didn't have that, did you? No. Well, I've never seen the solution to fewer drones and bombs making more bombs like that's just maybe that's where the confusion comes from

like look you came over here you did the one thing we tried to retaliate and 57 chemical labs later yeah I have to say with number five like I mean

I don't disagree with what he's saying I mean I disagree with the premise but number five for sure. Yeah. They've got the best lands and puppets. We kind of suck.

You kind of want to tell them, like, no one wants your land. Your land is garbage. No one wants your shitty garbage territory. Like, nobody's like, oh, yeah, you know what would be awesome is some fucking uninhabited wasteland of desert for fucking mile after endless garbage mile. Nobody wants it. Will you quit talking about Wyoming? I know it's tough out there. And then finally, for

invading our lands. So it's kind of the same thing as number five. What does invading mean if it's not like being all up on? It's like number five, right? You're all up on shooting and killing us. Yeah. And then you came to us.

Yeah. We had to do that to shoot and kill you. Like we can't, I don't know. It's like those things are part and parcel. We're getting those satellites put in space. You'll, you'll be able to strike number six and still revel in five. It'll be great. The greatest satellite, the greatest bullet point.

It says, we hate you for invading our lands and fight you to repel you and drive you out as long as there is an inch of territory for us left to regain or reclaim, jihad will continue to be a personal obligation on every single Muslim man, like I just want to say you see those fucking apologists all the time, you see those guys

who are like, oh it has nothing to do with Islam it has nothing to do with Islam every one of these has everything to do with Islam. It has nothing to do with Islam. Every one of these has everything to do with Islam. Absolutely everything to do with it. How do you take, maybe the invading the lands piece, right? Maybe five and six, you can make a case. But one, two, and three,

which are specifically ordered. And then the guy says, the guy fucking specifically says, the article concludes that while foreign policy is an issue, the main reason they are hell-bent on their destruction is because they don't like the west very much it reads what's important to understand here is that although some might argue that your foreign policies are the extent of what drives our hatred this particular reason for hating you is secondary hence the

reason we addressed it at the end of the list i feel like it should have said like, at Glenn Greenwald at the end of it. You know what's crazy about this too is it seems like we had to like agree to all this stuff ahead of time, right? It's like we had to sign like a prenuptial Islam agreement ahead of time.

Because fucking he keeps on being like, even if you don't know, too fucking bad. What the fuck, man? Like, there's this is not the religion Because fucking he keeps on being like, even if you don't know, too fucking bad. And you're like, what the fuck, man? Like, there's a, this is not the religion of tolerance, right? You know what I mean? Like, where you're just like, live and let live. Nope, don't like Islam, time to die.

That's not a, and the thing is, all, like you said, like Glenn Greenwald, all these people want to kiss their ass. Like, it's a, like, they're the, oh, don't worry. They're a religion of peace. They're not trying to hurt you. Bullshit, man. There's a big sect of these people that are fucking angry at non-Muslims. Yeah. Right. It almost seems like the author is kind of taunting with that too, by going through all these reasons at first that are, you know, lunatic-y, but then, but you can almost see

where he's coming from. And then at the very end of like, psych, just kidding. We hate you because of this and we're going to blow you up. It doesn't matter. It's just the catch-all rule at the end of the list. You almost had me, crazy ISIS guy.

And then you blew me up. We're going to be joined by Aaron and Jen at the end of the show. We're going to do a little interview with them at the end. So stick around for that. Cecil, I think we would be a little remiss if we didn't at least touch on the whole conceptual penis hoax skeptic article. I did want to touch on this because the conceptual penis is so much better than the actualization of my penis.

Here's what I do with my with my girlfriend. What I what I do is I say conceive of a better penis. It's like visualizing like like a runner. Like what she's she's looking for the platonic realm of forms which is a 10 inch black cock that and that's why i put pictures of that all around my home that's why yeah you know so to give her the visual you know to give her the kind of you know here's i always just dream a little dream i send my wife a different dick pic every day it's never mine it's never yours never mind I just say, this is my conceptual penis. I had a coworker

that she was on Tinder or some such and she got dick pics all the time. Sure. And she had, I think, the greatest idea ever

to take all the Tinder dick pics and make them into a dick coffee table book. Oh, that's awesome. I think it's fucking genius. And if your pics say, be like, hey,

all right, well, maybe I should... Make sure it's a soft cover book. What it should be able to do is get a scratch and sniff style version. No, no, but not really. That'd be horrifying. But what you do is you... Is that a Jew? Maybe wash that up a little.

Did you go running first? What the fuck is going on? Really? Did you swim in Lake Michigan? You buy it as a soft cover, and then the more you leaf through it, it becomes a hard cover. I like that.

Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It stiffens up with use. Sure. Or if you add a blue pill to it. That should be how you, it should be locked. And you put like a little blue pill in it that opens it up. That's how you get to the.

That's exactly it. It's a fucking million dollar idea. I'll tell you what. That's great. I just patented it. There it is. But, you know, first I want to, I want to lead off by saying, you know, Skeptic Magazine published an article in case anybody doesn't know. I don't even know how to stand.

Well, some people, the thing is, is it hit the skeptic community real hard, this thing. But it might not have hit the atheist community at large. True. So just a quick bit of reference. Skeptic magazine published an article outlining a gender studies academics, right? So it's called the conceptual penis as a social construct. That's the name of the paper. And so what they sought to do, this is according to them, what they sought to do was to expose a problem within the gender studies academia that was fraught with a whole bunch of jargonistic postmodern obscurantism that ultimately means nothing and that you could publish a bunch of gibberish.

A nonsense paper. Right. And that it would go through just fine. That wasn't their only goal. It was not their nonsense paper. Right. And that it would, it would go through just fine. That wasn't their only, it was not their only, not their only goal, right? Their other goal was to expose the problems with pay to pay publishing,

pay to play publishing. Right. So the, and Thomas Smith on his show, serious inquiries only he does. And along with Eli, um, he,

they do two shows. Eli comes on with Thomas. They do a really great breakdown. Sure. Um, I encourage you guys to listen. They had to do a second show afterwards with all the corrections, though.

So check that one out, too. Yeah, he sourced it all through Yik Yak. It's brilliant. The Yik Yak stuff is tough. And then the second show, he actually has James Lindsay, one of the authors of this paper. Yeah, I listen to both of these shows.

Yes. And James Lindsay defends himself. Despite how Thomas treats me, I listen to everything that Thomas does on that show. I listen to that all the time. Even how Thomas treats me, I listen to everything that Thomas does on that show. I listen to that all the time. Even though Thomas hates me, I still listen to him.

Even though he doesn't like you personally. Even though he doesn't like me personally. To be fair though, you don't like me personally and we've been best friends for 20 years. I can't do any better. That's what your wife said

for a long time. I bank on that. That's what my ex-wife said for a long time too. She did too. I bank on that. You're not going to get a long time. I bank on that. She did too. I bank on that. Like, you're not,

I mean, you're not, you're not going to get a better friend. It's like, you're punching above your weight class already. You know what I mean? My weight class is significant. My ex-wife's not punching above her weight class ever.

She's super heavyweight. There's nothing above it. At a certain point, you're doing sumo, and that's just not it. Hiking up that fucking thing like draw that thing whatever you know what i mean like that waistbandy loincloth that's what i thought you were talking about

those don't hike up no not anymore you know i i did want to talk about one thing that I think has been less touched upon. And that is the idea, just the concept alone, that it is even reasonable for somebody to, somebody who's a lay person, somebody who's not a part of any field of study, and to just pick up one of these papers and expect to understand it. You would not have this expectation of one of the criticisms of the, quote, soft sciences by people who are more proponents of the hard sciences. Right. Is that, you know, the soft sciences are less rigorous, less difficult, you know? Sure. And yet we have this expectation within the soft sciences that I, as somebody who's not a gender studies PhD, that I can just pick up one of these papers and read through it

and that it will be meaningful and that I will know the terminology and that I will not be lost by the vocabulary and that I will be able to make heads or tails of it in a meaningful way. That's nonsense. I would not have that same expectation of picking up a physics paper, right? I would no more go to a physics journal and be like, oh, I'm not a physics

major. I dabbled a little in college. I took a handful of physics classes. I can probably whittle my way through it. No. A PhD level paper? Are you fucking high? No way. Why would I have that same expectation? This nonsensical notion that gender studies or many of the soft sciences are fraught, particularly with, you know,

a series of jargonistic terminologies that, you know, render these papers unintelligible. Is it not more likely that as a lay person unfamiliar with this level of of academia is it not more probable that you just don't know the language that you don't get it you don't you don't you know what the fuck you're talking about because it's not your fucking field of study yeah why is that not every bit as like the most reasonable part hey i read this and i didn't understand it. It must be garbage. Or I read it and I didn't understand it because I'm not a fucking PhD in gender studies. Well, and one of the things that happened on that on one of the podcasts was there was a whole list of of potential papers that could be this egregious affront to academia and make gender studies look ridiculous because they are crazy named papers.

They have just these insane titles that when you hear the title, you think, what? That sounds fucking stupid. Yeah. But listen to that podcast that that that SIO podcast with Thomas Smith. Lindsay isn't on then. Lindsay sends this. He sends a link for reference. Listen to Thomas just very reasonably discuss each one, even the ones he doesn't understand. He says, who am I to say that this has no merit? I'm not in this field. I'm not in this deep, deep academic field. And one of the things I mentioned to you when we talked about this a little bit, you know, I really feel like this is not so much a skeptics problem as it is an academics problem. The academics that I know have a real hard time with how much they have to

publish. And these pay to play journals are a symptom of how much you are required to publish to get tenure. There is a problem with pay-to-play publishing that I think that they should have stuck with, and they shouldn't have tried to tack in this gender studies thing because I think that maybe they were using it as a signal boost, and that's a problem. That's the real problem, is that they're using this as a signal boost. It's something that's in their own wheelhouse. It's something that they might have a pet peeve against, and so they're utilizing this gender study thing because they want it. But they're really frustrated about the academic stuff.

Yeah. And, you know, keep it academic, just like Thomas says in his podcast, keep it academic and nobody cares. Right. Like, yeah, you did Sokol hooks. Even Sokol himself, the guy who did this first thing was that they're attributing this hoax to. even he said that doesn't prove anything.

Right, yeah. So it's like, if it doesn't prove anything, what's the point of it? And when I read the article in Skeptic Magazine, very clearly they come out and say, to me, it feels like they're saying that what we wanted to do was expose the problem of gender studies first and pay

to play second. They accomplish, they basically muddy the water so badly they accomplish neither. And I feel like they've been incredibly dishonest in this process, incredibly dishonest in this process, just painfully obtuse about it. And one of the analogies that I gave like I'm not a science guy, right? Like I don't have a degree in the sciences. I have a degree in the arts, right? So, but the arts are fraught with similar nonsense, right? And we talked about

this a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, yeah. As a writer, if I go to something that is basically a vanity press, I can get garbage published, right? You can get anything published. Anything. I could write fucking Jabberwocky part two. Sure.

Right? Jabberwocky's actually excellent. But I could write garbage, and I could get it published in a pay-to-play vanity press type thing. Does the fact that I can do that, does that render all of literature moot? How fucking silly is that? It's silly. You didn't expose a problem with the subject itself.

You exposed a problem with the publishing methodology. Yeah. Gary Busey said recently that Donald Trump would make a great president. Of course, he said the same thing about an old rusty birdcage he found. All right, this story is from Right Wing Watch. This is Dave, coach. Doc right. This story is from Right Wing Watch. This is Dave, coach. Doc coach.

Not a coach. Dobbin Meyer. America needs a more violent Christianity. I mean, yeah, I guess if we want to.

Well, that guy in Portland fucking heard the call. He did. He did. He heard the call. He heard the coach. He's a player.

He took his, he took, you know. That guy, what a scumbag, huh? Oh my God. Yeah. Did you hear him in court the next day i fucking know what a fucking uh i mean if the if if the alt-right had somebody who is sort of perfect for their cause it's this guy what he was screaming was freedom of speech after he killed people i'm not even kidding he was screaming freedom of speech afterwards and he was saying that those people deserve to die.

I mean, it's just like, and the thing is, is he's such a fat piece of garbage. Like, you look at him, you're like, you're such a fat piece of shitty garbage, and you're going to die in prison, and no one's going to care. Nobody. Nobody's going to care. Nobody's going to remember you. History's going to, history's going to

dust over your name. You were a nobody before, and you're going to be a nobody forever. But Daubenmeier is suggesting we need more of this. I mean, that's what he's calling for. Let's talk about what Daubenmeier, let's listen to Daubenmeier. It's a little long of a clip, but it's worth listening to. I remember about a year ago, maybe it was a little bit longer now. I was listening to Michael Savage, the Savage uh nation so he's not saved he's not even close to save but savage a lot of times will go to the scriptures and read the scriptures i think he's a non-practicing jew and uh but he'll read he's smart enough to go to the bible because of

the wisdom that's in the bible no because he knows his base stupid right like that's his audience he thinks that there's any wisdom in the bible. Michael Savage is fucking smarter than you are. He realizes you're a dummy and you'll buy it. You're listening to it, right? All you know about him is what he sold you, dumb fuck. Non-practicing Jews going to go to the Bible for the wisdom in it? No. Do you know some non-practicing Jews

that go to the Bible for wisdom? I don't. Not for wisdom. I know Eli Bosnick ejaculates on those pages, but I don't know anything else. I don't know anything else. And I'll never forget what he said.

It just kind of, you know, again, one of those arrows hit me right in the face. You can see it there. God, I wish. That's what happened. I wish an arrow

would hit him in the face. That's literally what happened to your face. It would be amazing if he just showed up with a porcupine. I wouldn't even care if it was a Nerf arrow.

He said this, the only thing that's going to save America is a more militant Christianity. Wow. from the days of john the baptist until now the kingdom of god suffered violent and violent men taken by force and as much as we listen fellas as much as we don't like it bible's full of violence full of it it's just full of it the thing that separates the bible from everything else. Is that it's true? Are you going to say that? Or that it's free in a hotel

room? It is free in a hotel room. Unlike most things I pay for in a hotel room. It's cheaper than a hooker. The Bible teaches violence is a last resort. So does karate. So does Steven Seagal, right? So does Mr. Miyagi.

But it does teach us that there's a time for violence. There's a time for war. There is a time for war. I don't know if you saw this or not. The media has gone crazy over this. Trump walking in the authority as president of the United States,

as the man who's large and in charge, as the man who's large and in charge, as the man who's paying all the bills against those little worms. I'm talking about when he grabs the guy and he pulls him forward. The guy from Montenegro that he pushes out of the way. Yeah, okay. The guy who's large and in charge, the guy who's paying all the

bills. Motherfucker doesn't pay all the bills. We pay the bills. Yeah, exactly, right? All the people pay the bills. The corporations, the bills. Motherfucker doesn't pay all the bills. We pay the bills. Yeah, exactly. Right? All the people pay the bills. The corporations, the companies. He's not. You think he's sitting there writing checks? Oh, I hope this one cashes. It's for $1 trillion. What? Yeah.

He's exactly right. It's a stupid thing to say. Yeah. I want you to watch they call for the press conference. You ought to watch the Young Turks and what they said. You ought to watch Matt Allen, what they said about how he's not presidential. He's rude, he's egotistical. I want you to watch Trump walks up and he is going to grab one of these leaders, the leader of NATO, I think is the guy. Trump grabs him, puts his hand out, pushes him back and Trump walks in front of him walking in authority not acting very he's just

being a dick he's just being a cocksucker i could do that to trump i'm fucking way stronger than trump exactly he's a fucking frail shitty 70 year old man i'll fucking bench press it doesn't make me right yeah it doesn't make me right like there's a bunch of other stronger younger people out there we don't do that the reason you, you know, being the strongest, biggest swinging dick in a room in our time means very little in very few places. One or two places. In a fucking octagon, it means something, right? If there's an octagonal cage around you,

it may mean something. It probably means something if you're lifting heavy weights that are circular. Right. If you're doing a CrossFit games, maybe it means something. But besides athletic

competition, it's meaningless. Think about it this way. Think about a board of directors and think about the strongest guy in that room. What is the benefit of him being the strongest guy in the room? The thing is too, like to confuse assholery with power. That's a, that's exactly it. Right. Yeah. That's just, that's just the child's way of looking at the world. It's somebody who, first of all, doesn't understand where real power, respect and authority comes from. Presidential seat. They want us to be like

Obama and bend over and let them have us, right? That's what they want us to do. Watch Trump walk in authority here, and the news goes nuts. Go ahead, Jeremy. He's showing the video now of Trump walking forward. Here he comes. Here he comes.

Shoves him out of the way. He said, I'm here, man. I'm large and in charge. And look at him huh they're all little puppies they're all little puppies ain't nobody barking at him it's like those skunks

I got out they're just wandering around man what is what is with the skunks I don't know it's something he's referencing from earlier I'm sure but um

what a fucking worm you are that you're so powerless in your own life and you're such a shitty contemptible human being that you're so powerless in your own life and you're such a shitty, contemptible human being that you think that's a good example, that that's a good example of what a human being should be, that that's a good person, that that's somebody who I should emulate and that other people should emulate. Well, kind of fucking, you know, they throw that word cuckold around. They throw that word around all the time.

There's nothing more cuckold than being a guy watching someone else push someone out of a way out of the way. And that's what gets you. That's what gets you off. That's what makes it. I mean, you might as well cheer on a guy coming in your wife. You know what I mean? Like,

like, you know, who cares that he pushed him out of the way he's being a dick, but you're such a, you're such a bully cuckold that you can't do this in your real life. You're a powerless, shitty human being who doesn't have respect of anybody because you don't deserve respect. Right. You never earned it.

You never earned any of that respect. You think you deserve it, but you don't. No one should give you that respect. And this is what you cheer on. You're a pathetic worm of a human being yeah i totally agree with you man he's walking in authority walking in authority he walked to the front and center and they all know it too man he just spanked them all remember he just spanked them all no he was a cock in the fucking in the speech that he gave yeah that wasn't even

accurate and beyond that after the, nobody talked to him. He stood there. Did you happen to read that? Or see that? Yeah. After that speech, all the other world leaders were hanging out and they were talking and they were fucking probably doing business, right? They were doing the business of being diplomats. They were doing the business of being leaders in the world.

And he was excluded from their fucking reindeer games. Yeah. Because he tried to shame them. Right. Yeah. You know not tried to shame him. Right. Yeah. You know why a lot of business gets done on the golf course and, you know, and so like at the bar and what have you is because that's how people interact with each other. At the end of the day,

we're all fucking human beings. And this, this nonsense where somebody is like, well, I'm fucking the big swinging dick. It's like, well, no one's inviting you places.

Yeah. No one's going to talk. No one's going to have a conversation with someone that's not trusting. And you're not the big swinging dick. Right. Oh yeah. What you have is this, you have this're not the big swinging dick. Right. Oh, yeah. What you have is this, you have this air about you. It's an illusion.

Yeah, exactly. Right. And like many people said before, he's a weak person's version of a strong man. That's exactly right. He's a stupid person's version of a smart man. He's just a show. Yeah. He's just a show.

And he's fucking weak as fuck. Yep. Like, he's so petty. He's just a show and he's fucking weak as fuck. Yep. Like he's, he's so petty. He's so easy to damage. Dude, he's, he's all the things you hope your kid doesn't turn out to be.

Yeah. Like if, like, like, like if I saw my son walking through a crowd of other kids at like the fucking recital or some fucking thing, and he's fucking elbows his way past other kids. He and I have to have a talk. Yeah.

And not a nice one. Not a nice one. Right? We don't have to have a talk called, yeah, a way to assert your fucking power and authority and push the other kids around. It's a talk called,

stop being a dick. Yeah. Just cut that shit out. Yeah. And now he walks to the front. The Lord is showing us a picture of the authority we should be walking in. And people outside who are not watching MSNBC and not watching CNN.

They're saying, yes, dude. Yes, I get it now. God, this guy reminds me, you know, he reminds me of he reminds me of a Christmas story, not the bully, but the toady that follows the. Yeah, right. It just cheers on the guy doing the work. That just, he can't, he's too much of a pussy to do this stuff in his life. Right.

And all he's doing is just being like, you and I have similar values. And so when you hurt another person, it makes me feel good. Yeah. No, yeah, that's exactly. He's a sidekick. He's a toady. Yeah, that's it. He's a worm.

Yeah. That's exactly right. He's a sidekick. He's a toady. Yeah, that's it. He's a worm. Who's that guy on the other side of the glory hole? It's Jesus. This story's from the New York Times. Fuck, man. 11 years old, a mom, and pushed to marry her rapist in Florida. I grabbed this story because we hear about this shit primarily as it pertains to other

countries. We hear about this shit and we decry this. Let's pause and be real about what an 11 year old kid is. An 11 year old kid is a fucking fifth grader. Think about who you were. Think about, honestly, think about...

I was thinking about this when I read the story. I was thinking about who I was when I was in fifth grade. I used to love BMX bikes. Yeah, you know... I remember that's what I used to love to do. I had a paper route. I played toys. Yeah.

I used to go creek walking. Yeah, I went creek walking. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I probably couldn't have supported a family then uh man i don't know that i would have properly spelled family at that point i left out the i but boys aren't the subject of this boys are not right aren't the subject of this that's why right

would i have been able to support a family no but would i have been able to give birth to a family well you know maybe it's it's horrifying to think that the fact that somebody's biology happens to be capable of producing offspring somehow creates a marital or sexual obligation or in any way implies emotional or psychological maturity just because there happens to be some bodily maturity. Yeah, maturity ahead of time before everybody else. Yeah. It's, it's, it's fucking insane. So in this story,

um, this 11 year old girl, uh, Sherry, I found out she was going to be married to a 20 year old member of her church who raped her. Um, it was forced on me. She says she'd become pregnant.

And basically the, the church officials, the church officials, after she was raped by somebody twice her age or damn near twice her age, think about the difference between a 20-year-old, who you were at 20, a sophomore in college, who you are as a sophomore in college versus who you are as a fucking fifth grader. Married. Married. And they married to avoid legal consequences for the 20 year old. Yeah. Right. So this fucking 11 year old girl gets fucking married against her will because the church is like, well.

Yeah, she's pregnant. That's all fucked up now. We don't want fucking child welfare getting in the way. I mean, like, you're not even in middle school. Yeah. And this is in Florida. Yeah, I know. It says, meanwhile, children under 16 are still being married in Florida at a rate of one every few days.

And that's pretty crazy because that's the same age and rate at which they graduate middle school. That's nuts. Why is there a law that would even allow? i don't care who consents to it let me put that out there why would there why you should not be able to consent as a parent to marrying off your 11 year old and that law so there was a girl scout that went to try to change this right so she read about this she figured this out she's a young girl, 13-year-old. And she was appalled by this and decided that

she would try to write senators and try to get a law passed. That said, no, you have to be 18 to decide if you're married. That's just how things work. And it got all the way to the Senate in a state down there. And it says this person responded, this David Bates responded with,

we're asking the legislature to repeal a law that's been on the books for over a century, that's been working without difficulty on the basis of a request from a minor doing a Girl Scout project. That's the first ever argumentum ad girl scout I've ever heard. Isn't that an ad

hominem? Basically saying, well, she's just a girl scout. What does she know? Well, she knows better than you do. That's the horribly damaging thing to be married off when you're too young. Isn't it astonishing that a 13-year-old girl has a greater,

a more significantly fine-tuned moral compass than this fucking guy? How can you possibly look at this law and say, well, it's been working just fine? What the fuck is wrong with you? This 11-year-old girl, you're trading her off into captivity. She's too young to get a job. She's too young to get a car. She's too young to get a car. She's too young to get to do any of the things that an adult can do. Even a 16 year old can drive. Right. Right. She can't do any of those things. She's basically a prisoner for five, six, seven, eight, nine years until she

can live on her own. She can't even she's got to suffer through, you know, not just one rape. Right. Yeah. But now it doesn't matter. Right. Now it doesn't matter. Right. Now you're just now She's got to suffer through not just one rape, right? Let's be real honest. But now rape and his wife. Now it doesn't matter, right? Now it's just a marital fucking watering hole. This is a horrible thing, and this happens in this country that's horrible. I was shocked when I read this article. I do like that the first clerk said no.

Yeah, actually. I want to talk about that for a second. They went, you know, because we've railed against this when clerks refuse to issue marriage certificates, even though it's their job for LGBT couples, right? So I know that I am dancing on the edge of hypocrisy right now. I understand that. And I'm thinking out loud. So indulge me the moment. But good for the first clerk. There was a clerk who said, no, I'm not doing this. I think that there is an insane, insane difference, though, between seeing an 11-year-old girl and saying, this is a human being who has not yet reached an age where consenting to something as significant as a fucking marital contract. That's the key, right?

The consent. We don't know. She is too young to consent to sex. How is she not? How is she old enough with anybody's permission? Anybody's permission. She's not old enough to consent to what you're going to issue a license for. his permission. She's not old enough to consent to what you're going to issue

a license for. That, to me, is different than two adults who are consenting to a marriage and refusing to issue a license for that. Exactly. Two adults. Bravo to that first clerk for saying, that's just wrong. And it's because it's against the law, right?

If this were, it's not technically against the law to marry somebody that young, but it's technically against the law to fuck somebody that young, right? Right, and that's implied in that marriage. So this person is like, nah, I think that's a fucking pretty horrible thing. I'm not going to do it. That's what it's implied, like you say, in the marriage. So they're looking at it from a different lens.

The other person is like, there's nothing against the law. Gay people can get married. They're human beings. They want to have a life together. And they're both adults, and they can consent to this relationship just fine. Nobody's getting coerced into it. Stay the fuck out of it. Those are two adults, not an adult and a child. And there's no way an 11 year old becomes not a child because a parent wrote a permission slip, right? Yep. This is, dude, you're still so young that somebody has to give you a permission slip. You can't go on a fucking field trip at that age.

You can't take an aspirin on your own at school at 11. If you get your hand ready to grip a banana, you'll find on the far side there are three grooves on the close side, two grooves. The banana and the hand are perfectly made one for the other. So we're going to do a quiz

here for Ray Comfort. We had received a, uh, a Ray gate, uh, clip that we're going to play for you. This is a, this is a clip, uh, from the, the chapter that I'm reading in, uh, in Ray comforts book. Uh, the fucking, I don't even know what it's called. It's the fucking, it's the a hundred reasons why the Bible is better than science or whatever. I don't even know what it's called. It's the hundred reasons why the Bible is better than science or whatever. It's better than science. I don't even know what it's called.

But this is Adam Rieks' reading, The Portion on Pascal. Good morning, Raylene. Good morning, Ray. How are you? Oh, I've got such a big one. I've got an amazing idea. Oh, I see. Right.

Mm-hmm. Yes. So, how are you? Well, talking about big ones, had an interesting experience last night. I think I had a wet dream. Oh, no. Well, is it squirting a thing what oh hydrodynamics oh that actually what a great segue

okay uh are you in front of the computer because i've got to get this big one out yes ray yeah already fired up to go. A bit damp, but never mind. Right. So this one's for a chapter in my book. It's about Blaise Pascal. So just do that in bold. Okay, yeah. And then write the same name again, Blaise Pascal, but not in bold.

And in brackets. This is hard. It's 1623-1662. Is that the time? Well, yes, it was a time, but not on a clock. It was like in a calendar. Right, okay. So anyway, Blaise Pascal was one of history's greatest mathematicians.

He laid the foundations for hydrothetics, hydrodynamics, differential calculus, and the theory of probability. Are you getting all this? No, not really. All right. Sort of, yeah. All right, you're paying about as much attention as, well, the readers of the book. Well, I'm a little bit preoccupied with my night mission, but, you know, you don't seem to care. No, I've got to get this one out.

He was famous for the Wager of Pascal, paraphrased as follows. Here can anyone lose who chooses to be a Christian? Question mark. If, when he dies, there turns out to be no God and faith was in vain, he has lost nothing. In fact, he has been happier in life than his non-believing friends. If, however, there was a god and a heaven and a hill, then he has

gained heaven and all his skeptical friends will have lost everything and he'll... This is boring, but yeah. Probably just finish it on that. That is great, isn't it? That's so hilarious. Those guys are so funny. Okay, so this chapter that i read was about it basically listed different scientists and then it

said it would have a quote from them about like how they believed in god but these are all most of these scientists were like really long time ago yeah right so uh so I have two questions. I only have two questions for you. The first one is, Ray Comfort talks about Joseph Lister. What does he list as his accomplishments? A, he wrote, I am a believer in the fundamental doctrines of Christianity. B, he created Listerine, which is the only thing that makes Ray's mouth feel clean after he deep throats a banana. C, he created and patented the Lister Engine, which converts sexual frustration into horsepower, most commonly used in solid gold butt plugs. That's how I drove myself to school for my whole high school. High school career. D he founded antiseptic surgical methods commonly used in the trimming and

pruning of perfect sexual organs. Oh, I don't know. I've never had a perfect sexual organ. That's well, in the eyes of God, nobody else. I'm going to go with a,

it is a, he was a believer in the fundamental doctrines of Christianity. Nailed it. The only other question I have for you, Tom'm going to go with A. It is A. He was a believer in the fundamental doctrines of Christianity. Nailed it. The only other question I have for you, Tom, is according to Racer, John Frederick Herschel famously said the following. A. The undevout astronomer must be mad. B. Cthulhu relay Relay, Wagnag, Fatig. C. I have discovered 500 stars in my lifetime, and none could match the size and scale

of your mama. B. My religiosity has nothing to do with me being born in 1792, and everything to do with science. Well, I feel like the answer is probably A, but I d the most so i'm gonna go with d it's a it turns out the undevout astronomer must be mad oh yeah yeah instead of man born yeah a really long time ago that's what all of them do too and there's a couple that are unattributed i actually

looked up to find out if there was like a few of these and a few of these quotes. You're just like, I that's not actually not even necessarily. Yeah, or they didn't say that. So what Ray is trying to do is say, look, here's 10 different scientists that that seem to have referenced God in some way. And therefore God must be more God must be

real because these scientists think he's real. Next week, the cheap argument from authority. Chapter the next. Chapter the next one. I have no Scientology questions for you, Cecil, but I will return with Scientology. Return with Scientology next week. I will. You want answers?

I think I'm entitled. You want answers. I want the truth. You can't handle the truth. This is Right Wing Watch. This is Wayne Allen Root. I like how he spells Allen wrong. Way to commit.

Yeah. Conservatives must hire special forces Operatives who have killed people To destroy the left They're very violent lately I'll tell you there's been a lot of violence A lot of pro-violence I wonder where all that's coming from It's almost like trickle down violence

I know We gotta fight We gotta fight. We gotta fight like animals. You know Twitter? We gotta fight. Look at that voice. Look at that voice. Oh, we gotta fight.

Ah! Come on, man. We'll put up your dukes. Fist the cuffs and die! Oh, my God. Suspended WND's Twitter account today, meaning World Net Daily, a very popular conservative website because they were mentioning the Seth Rich case.

Do you know that Sean Hannity's on a forced vacation at Fox News, just like Bill O'Reilly was because he. It's because Twitter killed Seth Rich. That's why, guys, this is super easy to figure out. I don't know why I haven't figured this out yet. Mentioned the Seth Rich case. And so did Fox News. Fox News killed Seth Rich.

They teamed up. Right. They teamed up. It was like those two guys in Fargo. Oh, right. Yeah. And Twitter actually put him through the wood chipper. Oh, geez. He went right through the wood chipper. Look at that. Don't you know he's all into pieces and everything.

Talk about censorship. Republicans are out of their minds.. Republicans are out of their minds. Conservatives are out of their minds. They're all wussies and they don't understand that we have to fight back so viciously and we have to fight back viciously. Put them off. Put them off. Put them off. We cut every liberal company in this country and we have to contact every company that advertises.

Yeah, good luck. Hey, guess what? Facebook, Twitter, all those social media places that you fucking reach out to your audience on, fucking Spreaker or whatever you're sending this thing out on, guess what, man? That's all fucking, that's all owned by liberals. All those people are liberals.

They're going to reach out to every company, all the companies that advertise on liberals. They don't give a fuck. What the fuck do you think when the m&m little peanut m&m thing walks out on the screen it's like well you know i think gays should get married they just want you to buy m&ms yeah they don't give a fuck they're advertising that's all they're doing like how many listeners do you have how many viewers do you have like can i fucking sell some fucking m&ms like all they would do is sell fucking m&Ms and deodorant. There's not special fucking pro-LGBT rights

deodorant that the fucking liberals use. But there are several tech companies that have come out as pro-liberal tech companies. Facebook, Google, Twitter, all these places have been like, no, we are fucking pro- liberal. We are pro-gay marriage. We are against

a lot of these people are against Trump policies in several ways. So what are you going to do? Are you going to take yourself off Facebook? No, they won't. You know, I know. Right. Like that's it. They always say that shit like, oh, we're going to what they'll do is they'll go to go to something like Facebook to announce their boycotting something less useful to them than Facebook. Right. They'll do the same thing for Twitter. The same thing for all that shit they want to use yeah i want to use that i can't i really can't actually live without it yeah so i'm going to keep using that one boycott sherryos because there was a black guy marrying a white girl black white stuff send me back to 1960 on on msnbc and

cnn and every single company that's an ad in the New York Times, target them all. Every company that has an ad in the Washington Post, target them. Every company that advertises on liberal websites like Huffington Post and many others, target them.

How stupid the fuck is that, right? Because you go on your fucking computer, you open your browser, and what does it show you for right? Because like you go on your fucking computer, you open your browser, and what does it show you for ads? It shows you targeted ads based on your search history. Based on your own search history. Right? I was looking for wallets the other day.

Everything I'm looking at now- Is wallets. Facebook is wallets. Right. On the other, like today I had to shut off ad block to read an article because there's certain news sites won't let you. It was all wallets.

It was all wallets. Right. And it just, that's, and you know what? when i was looking for a vacuum cleaner they did the same thing when i was looking for you know you look for certain stuff and they're just going to target you well great what am i going to boycott the fucking the wallet company that they don't they don't have any fuck they don't care exactly it's just that is a that is a genuinely stupid thing is this to say that that clearly misunderstands how modern advertising works now if somebody if somebody is advertising on rachel maddow's show that's a different story that's

different because those people pay money to msnbc for that time slot right so yeah go boycott people that that are advertised for rachel maddow podcasts, right? If you don't like a certain group of people, like you don't like our podcast, boycott Adam and Eve. You know, if you don't want to boycott Adam and Eve, though, you could always swing over to Adam and Eve. Sure. And by swing, I mean sex swing your

way over to Adam and Eve, adamandeve.com, enter Gloria at checkout, Cecil. You get 50% off almost any item. You need to get free shipping and a free sex swing. Just like they do to us. It's time to get hundreds of thousands, preferably millions, preferably 63 million people that voted for Donald Trump to make their voice heard. Well, guess what? The other side had 65 million.

I know, right? So they fucking have more people. Yeah, but they're all illegal immigrants. So here's the thing, man. You can go and fucking be like, like if I'm a business and like literally, like let's just say literally 63 million people who voted for Trump would be in lockstep

with your stupid idea to boycott whatever's on Rachel Maddow. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and do the Maddow thing for you because you're too stupid to realize how internet ads work. But like, let's say they were going to boycott what was on Rachel Maddow. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and do the Maddow thing for you because you're too stupid to realize how internet ads work. But like, let's say they were going to boycott what was on Maddow.

Sure. Well, they would still market to the larger audience of 65 million people. They would be like, cool story, but I'll just market to a bigger audience. Yeah, they would have... Does he not think that they do demographic studies? It's like, yeah,

advertising on Muddow, we know who we're trying to reach. And it's not the people who said, I don't want to buy. We're already fine. We're talking about a sommelier service, dude. You're never going to get that. Budweiser's Budweiser everywhere you go.

Is that rice beer? I don't know. I don't know if I like that stuff. That's imported from Japan, isn't it? It that? I don't know if I like that stuff. That's imported from Japan. It's got some kind of flag. I like flags. That's why I bought that. It doesn't have the flag on it, but it's a red and white flag. Where's the blue?

It looks vaguely Confederate. I bought 100 cases. We are taken off the airwaves and our lives are erased. See, free speech. What does that even mean? Your lives are erased. What are free speech is... What does that even mean? Your lives are erased? What are you, in the Matrix? Like... It's like Back to the Future

where he fucks his grandma or whatever. He starts to disappear. He fucks his grandma. Take it, grandma. Oh, shit. I'm starting to disappear. Quick, go 88 miles an hour. Don't come at her and you'll be fine.

He just comes on his grandma's face. He's like, don't worry, grandma. Rub it in your tits and I'll still exist. In later years, you'll be talking about a facial. It's meaningless. You can argue it's in the Constitution and no one's changed it. It's completely meaningless if you have no advertisers. If liberals write 10,000 letters

to every single advertiser saying that if you keep advertising on Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly and if you advertise on WND, boom, we have no free speech. If Twitter free, that's how free speech works. That's not fucking free speech,

you idiot. But like when people fucking write letters or talk, that is the actual exercise of free speech. Like when somebody says something and then someone else takes note

of the thing that was said, and then they take an action based on this. How is your free speech? You have all the free speech. He doesn't understand this concept at all. Nothing is stopping any of these people from telling this information to the public for free.

Podcasts exist. You don't have to have Fox News, Sean Hannity. You're popular enough on your own to go start your own show podcast that just like Glenn Beck did and have your own message and talk about Seth Rich every day and beat off to a

picture of him and come on his face and get a new picture, whatever you want to do, Sean, you know, the fucking world's your oyster. So, and the same thing goes for world net daily, whatever. They can do this for free. They're just mad that they're not going to make money off of it. Look, that's the thing. Their free speech is not impinged their fucking ability to make money off that speech is yeah look here here's the thing cecil do you have a nationally syndicated radio show do you that i don't know well okay good thank you if you did i'll be a little hurt i know like but because you don't i'm in talks though i mean hey do you not have like i have you have free speech right you have all the free speech rights you want

well how could that be if you don't have you're not on television how do you not have it's a fucking stupid it only works top down is what I'm trying to get at right like you have like some asshole like Hannity or Riley or whoever and they've got this right and then they lose this for whatever reason and so now they've

lost their right to free speech but that's not true it's not true. It's not true in the exact same sense that just because I don't have that, I don't have exactly. I have all the free speech I want. I don't have a megaphone that reaches 10 million Republicans. I don't have free speech. That's bullshit. The size of my soapbox has nothing to do with my exercise of free speech.

It only has to do with the audience that I reach when I exercise. And their free speech, like I said, their free speech still exists. They just want to get paid for this world net daily. They just want to get paid and say bad shit. Right. Well, if you're not going to get paid to say the bad shit, they won't say the bad shit because they want to make money over free speech. That's their choice. Not anybody else's. Besides, they could take you off WND, take WND off of Twitter because they mention a case where a guy was murdered. Then we have no free speech and we have no rights. Twitter is not the arbiter of free speech.

It's a fucking private company. You don't get to fucking decide what's on Twitter. Twitter gets to decide what's on Twitter. Twitter has that ultimate authority. Twitter didn't always exist. Before Twitter, was there no free speech? It was like, I don't know. Fuck it, there wasn't free speech until Twitter.

We just, we fucking sat around hoping somebody would invent it so we could have more free speech. You know? And a friend of mine wrote something so telling today. Wayne, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the left, the Democratic National Committee, Media Matters, Right Wing Watch, Center for American Progress, SEIU, and many other left-wing George Soros paid groups has gigantic offices in cities all around this country, boiler rooms with people being paid, making calls and writing emails and sending letters and then licking the letter and putting it in the mailbox to sponsors and newspapers and cable and TV networks

all over this country. Why do you need to pay someone? There are people who will do that for free. There's no reason to outsource this. Dude, have you ever been to Right Wing Watch headquarters? Like the fucking glistening fucking metropolis of Right Wing Watch headquarters?

It's not a thing, man. It's not even how the world works. It's like it's a bunch of dudes sitting at a computer in some fucking basement somewhere. It's all this shit is. The thing is, is like when he's saying all these people are sending all these letters, it's like all you have to do is outrage the right people and they will do it for free. Right. You don't need George Soros to pay people to send these letters.

You are outraging people it's easy for them to be outraged and then send the letter on their own but even if it were true isn't that isn't that what they argued in in uh the the citizens united case right is that money is the same thing as speech didn't they didn't it wasn't that isn't that the republican i don't know enough about it is that i but i think i recall that the the argument was made that money and speech are inextricably linked with one another and that was a that was a hallmark of that decision and so you cannot infringe upon a company's uh right to spend money because that spending of money is equivalent to speech so if i want to actually so following that which the fucking republicans love that yeah they fucking they fucking they love that decision so much so following that same thing is it would it not

be the case that if i spend my money and i get you to do a thing for me yeah that i have used my money to enhance or amplify my speech isn't that what we do when we do a podcast we buy a bunch of equipment so we can enhance our speech yeah so we can broadcast it out my like it's baffling how even by his premise it's problematic yeah i don't even understand and all over this world to try and destroy the right they've got boiler rooms of people trying to destroy the right my friend is brilliant the guy who wrote this is worth like i don't know 100 million dollars brilliant brilliant big time businessman and he hit the nail right on the head he continues hell they probably even use robots and sophisticated

like twitter bots huh that's weird i hope it's actual like metallic like androids that sit at a computer and they don't have they don't actually have hands they just type with their guns like that would be awesome that's a hunt and peck for each key click click this is really inefficient we should have hired dora she takes like 80 words a minute what they should do is they should get all the people who wear like the Sigourney Weaver suit in Alien.

They have like the big claw pinchy thing and they have to type using that. What they'd have to do is they'd have to have a giant keyboard a la big from like... From Tom Hanks. You're like dancing across the keyboard. They're just using those big claws on it.

Right. And then Sigourney Weaver comes in from the bakery and she's like, get away from it, you bitch! The computer software to reach out and send their messages. Why doesn't the RNC and right-wing groups backed by wealthy individuals fund our efforts to put all of them out of business? Well, that's a good question. You should call your right wing rich friend that has a hundred million dollars. Seems like he has plenty of money to spare.

I don't know why nobody's spending any of this money. Incidentally, I have an insane amount of money. What are you talking about? And you know why? I know why. Lazy, cheap, wussy, country club, rhino, a-holes. I'll say it different than the way he said it. A-holes.

He didn't quite say it that way. He finished the word. We get it. Yeah, you finished the word. You didn't start the word, to be fair. That's fair. We need to hire an attack dog. former CIA or NSA or FBI or Navy SEALs that have been involved in counterinsurgency operations all over the world that have killed people.

Their skill set would not matter against the envelope lickers. What are you going to shoot them? Where's the skill? Skill sets don't translate. They really don't. They really don't. If somebody were to give me that resume and they were going to be an administrative assistant,

I'd be like, you're overqualified. I don't need anyone killed. It's so crazy. It's like, I don't know. You're not even overqualified. You're just wrongly qualified.

Can you tell me a little about your skillset? Well, I can crack a man's neck like a pizza. It's like, I really just need him sharpened. I don't, I don't need anything else. It's so crazy.

It's like, do you know Python? Like, well, no, but I can shoot a man at 400 yards. I once killed a Python with my bare teeth. No, that's not. No, it's not a creature. No, you're terrible at this. I can't.

Like, the skillset. Do you know Excel? Well, Excel is shooting humans in the face. No, it's not what I'm looking for, actually. I don't need that, really. I'll call you. Where do you see yourself in five years? If necessary, still hunkered down,

motionless in a ghillie suit. Like, what the fuck? It's crazy. Yeah, that sounds great, security. I know, right? In the office, boy, you're voted most likely to kill all of us. That comes in a camel every day. When the copier makes a loud noise,

he hits the dirt. He paratroops to the office. Use the elevator like all the rest of us. Fuck. That understand how to fight. That don't bring a knife to a gunfight that that bring a gun to a gunfight preferably a shoulder-fired missile to a gunfight preferably a nuclear weapon to a gunfight preferably a supernova of like seven stars that he shoots out of a star shooting cannon to a gunfight. No,

bro. I'm like, what are you? This guy's talking about, like, he's, he's just going on about how we need all these badasses. Don't they have Ted Nugent? Yeah.

Right. Like a super duper bad-ass. Yeah. He's a bad-ass. He's like a super dodging the draft. Right. Pants or whatever. Yeah.

Poop his pants. I think that's the story, right? So what's on your resume, Ted? Well, I once pooped my pants to get out of a job. We'll call you, Ted.

You know what, though? At some point, I might pause and be like, I admire the tenacity. You're willing to sit in your own filth? Good for you. You'll do some shit if properly motivated. Literally. I know. So we're back with Aaron and Jen from Waiting for Wrath podcast. Guys, if people have never heard your podcast, let people know what your podcast is about.

Sure. We do current events, news stories, make dick jokes about them, except we drink. A lot. That's really what separates us from the successful people. Well, don't you have like 40 people in your band like earth wind and fire that's right they're the only podcast with backup dancers and shit they come out there's a costume change halfway through only when big gay jim is in drag hey our numbers and our name waiting for wrath there's four of us and it would have been super clever if i had collected all the hosts before i named the show but so so why did you guys get started podcasting what was the what

what what was the the thing that that spurred you along to get you started this is all aaron oh no this is all your fault oh um yeah no i uh i was listening to shows like Distance Pod and Scathing Atheist and so on. And I was like, you know, I can get drunk and do that. And so I did. I love when people tell their story like, well, that seemed like a low bar I could slither over the top of. We're big fans. I'm not nearly sober enough to walk, but I can crawl over that.

But no, no, I was, yeah, listening to you guys and thought I could get my friends together and at the very least, my family would get to stop listening to me bitch about Jesus. So he collected his one friend at the time. Yeah, right. I put, I offered Shay beer

and you offer him beer or kisses and he's down for pretty much whatever. He's the one who assaulted cecil yeah for those of you at home yeah that's shay yeah and then we went up with steve and uh jen jen unfucked the funny and steve unfucked the audio quality and uh yeah the rest is poorly edited history i don't know how you guys all from wyoming is it are all four i didn't know how I appreciate the term unfucking the funny. Are you guys all from Wyoming? I didn't know there were four people, much less four atheists. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, I had to scour the state.

And, you know, some of the time she is a cow, but yeah. Actually, it's really funny. I was sitting next to these three idiots at a bar one night. And my husband is a social butterfly and had walked away. So I heard them arguing about some stupid, nerdy comic book thing. I was talking about Galactus. Whatever.

So I turned and I was like, hey, who doesn't talk? No, who doesn't? No, fuck that. Don't be all sorry. Galactus is a great topic of conversation. No, I know.

Excellent topic. I was like, by the way, you're wrong, and hey, I'm going to join your conversation. Also, my license plate says Eater of a world so i'm out of here so by the end of the night like um aaron and steve were like hey what do you do on thursdays so but not not nearly that creepy yeah absolutely that creepy creepy is how to be approached by three dudes be like so what do you do on be like, what are you doing on Thursdays?

Oh no, it was only the two of us. I'd like a seventh of your time. Shay was passed out at the end of the bar. Well, Shay actually knew you and had taken us to the bar

with the intention of introducing us to Jen. But as soon as we got in there, he got plowed and fucked off. So, I actually introduced myself to my blind dates. Yeah.

So that's Wyoming for you. So you're in Wyoming. Is there anybody out there that you guys like? Is there meetups? Is there people that get together in Wyoming? Well, surprisingly,

we've had several listeners and other podcasters meet us here. We've got one coming up next weekend from Boulder, the Prophet Jeremiah. We have free beer and a couch in our studio. So sometimes we wind up with a studio audience. Nice. That's cool.

Yeah. So no, there used to be a group on campus and it kind of got dissolved. So now, yeah, if there's a. Yeah. So, no, there used to be a group on campus and it kind of got dissolved. So now, yeah, if there's a secular thing going on, we kind of tackle it. We're kind of it. Yeah. The University of Wyoming is here in this town. So anyone that has an education in Wyoming, it's here.

Yeah. The little blue dot and a sea of red. It's gross. Our studio is in a seedy garage. Nice. Seedy garage. Yeah. We feel bad sometimes when our guests show up, but I was

like, I promise, because they have to walk through Shay's woodworking garage, and it's like, I... This looks like a horror movie, and it doesn't end well in those, but I promise we'll get out alive. It smells like a horror movie. Oh, yeah. There's bodies hanging from meat hooks. Just

push past them. It's fine. Look, Shelly Siegel is back out in the world again. See? We let her out once she finally put the lotion on. It's fine. Let's make that no. So how did you guys... Okay, so you're in Wyoming. Clearly not the most...

It's not the secular capital of the United States. So how did you guys come to, you know, be secular? How did you guys come to be atheists within a community that's not terribly atheist? I'm Canadian and wound up here by accident. And both of my parents are atheists.

Oh, you betcha. Okay. Mine's more complicated. I grew up in South Georgia. and both my parents are deeply Southern Baptist and I ran away and Wyoming's better than Georgia. Right. All right. We've got that going for us. myself and Steve, the other, one of the other co-hosts, we come from a very, very strict religious background and, uh, Aaron and Shay, not so much at all.

In fact, Shay doesn't even know which way is up. So we forget that. He went to church once, but they kicked him out for eating all the crackers. Right. And trying to, trying to lick the priest.

But so it adds an interesting, an interesting flair to some of our conversations because, uh, Steve's father is actually a Southern Baptist minister and I've been on mission trips and blah, blah, blah. So,

yeah. So big gay Jim's name is big gay Jim. So he doesn't do a whole lot of the church going, but he was also raised religious. And how does a gay person get along up there? Uh, really well, actually.

Um, at least in one, at least in laramie uh wyoming has this like live and let live kind of stance that we like to sell to people and kind of more often than not it's true and especially in in laramie since matthew shepherd the lgbtqi community is way more visible and and jim was actually friends with matth Shepard back in college. He was the person, I don't know if you've ever heard of the angel movement that have sprung up from that, that block the Westboro Baptist people. Jim's actually the one who created the angel costume that took off. So Laramie and Wyoming got a terrible reputation because of that. Um, but

I've lived in nine different States and I have to say that, that Wyoming for its weird kind of backwards redneck reputation, little Texas, it's not little Texas at all. I lived in Texas. I can tell you for a fact, it's not little Texas. Um, It's terrible. We have actually a pretty thriving LGBTQ community here. And I don't know if you guys saw on the news, one of our state senators, Mike Enzi, made a really just gross comment about, hey, if a man's wearing a tutu to a bar, he deserves what he gets. Our state and our town, all over town was just such a backlash to that. Seeing cowboys wearing tutus with their boots and their jeans all over

town. I don't know. Wyoming gets a bad rap, but it's getting better. We have a pretty... Let me see how other people's business kind of situation... At least your senator's not body slamming people. That's Montana.

I don't know the difference. Is there a difference? They're both like square states, right? There's so nothing there. It's like, I don't know, man, just make it a square. Just hire a surveyor and just put a line, a chalk line between states. Oh, should we use one of these natural bodies?

No one's going here anyway. It doesn't, it's like the, just fucking who cares? The best thing about, well, see, the main difference there is that we're closer to Colorado. And it's the other square state. Montana's got kind of this little, like, prehensile tail on the western side, so

stop your square shaming. Yeah, geez. Whoa. Squares are shamed. She'll probably chastise. Not yet, you don't. No. No, you won't until she walks out to you and says,

What? Who am I? Who am I? Why weren't we here? Well, in our defense, we had drank a keg of beer at that point. In my defense, Shay didn't leave the hotel room for two days after his meltdown they just chained the poor guy to the bed it's like no it's not no we tried to get him to leave we kept trying we got him to hooters and he threw up now so we we're at uh 7200 feet here so the air is real thin and so we're at 7,200 feet here. So the air is real thin.

So we're real stupid. Yeah, down there at Old Hickory. Turns out you can drink until it's a bad idea. And he did. So, guys, if people were going to find your show, where would they look? That would be WaitingForWrath.com. And that's the numeral four. Although, F-O-R will get you there.

Or you can find us on Twitter at ForW or on Facebook at facebook.com slash waiting. The numeral for wrath. If you reach out to us, I'll talk to you. So don't worry. I'll make it weird and then she'll fix it. It's great. Guys,

it's so much fun having you on. You guys are blessed. It was nice writing you a reason contest. This is great. Absolutely. That was fun. I'm glad you told me who I was. I appreciate it. I'll never forget. I guess I won't either. Absolutely. That was fun. I'm glad you told me who I was. I appreciate it. I'll never forget.

I guess I won't either. Maybe. I won't let you. Well, yeah. Thanks so much for having us on, guys. So we want to thank our new patrons. We didn't get a lot of new patrons. We want to thank Hein Peter.

Okay. Yeah, let's go with that. Shane and Bryce. Thanks so much for your generous donations. We really do appreciate it. If you're interested in becoming a patron, you can go to patreon.com slash dissonance pod, donate per on a per episode basis to the show. Uh, you help make the show possible. You help the production of the show. You help make sure we have a glory hole studios and a Megan who helps us out. So thank you very much. So, uh, the first thing I want to talk about is, uh, we get a lot of voicemails, uh, sent to us. People will call us on voicemail and I want to caution a couple of people with, with a few things. Understand that if you're using your mic on your phone, sometimes it's

very delicate. So when you make sounds or you shout or things like that, it might not pick up. And I can't play that on the show if it's show if it's bottoming out or if it sounds terrible. So if you're thinking of sending something, you think it's funny, you think it probably would get played on the show if we did hear it, send a voice memo to us. It's very easy to record on almost any phone, a voice memo. And then you could just send that voice memo to us. Also, remember to keep things short. If you want your voicemail played on the show, I never play anything that's two minutes long.

I almost, I very rarely play things that are even a minute and 15 seconds long. A minute is really the limit. So think about what you're going to say and then say it, but don't leave a long rambling voicemail because I'm almost certainly not going to be able to play it or fit it on the show. I do listen to every single one.

So everyone gets listened to, but I don't always put them on the show because I do listen to every single one. So everyone gets listened to, but I don't always put them on the show because sometimes the, the, the, uh, like I say, the audio quality is bad or they're just too long. So, uh, so we're going to read a little bit of email here. We got a message from Olivia and Olivia says, fuck Chicago. Uh, basically Olivia came to a Cubs game at Wrigley and it was super cold here at the, here in Chicago, um, for a Cubs game in Mayrigley, and it was super cold here in Chicago for a Cubs game in May. Yeah, that can happen sometimes. We get a little chilly. It's been chilly all

year so far. It has not been warm. There's been a couple of warm days, but mostly it's been cold. It's funny that you send this message that you're cold. When Thomas Smith came out a couple years ago, it was August, it was only like 80 degrees. Oh my God, never ending bitching. He wouldn't stop complaining about it. He's still bitching about ago. It was August. It was only like 80 degrees. Oh, my God. Never ending bitching.

He wouldn't stop complaining about it. He's still bitching about it. Oh, such a baby. Oh, there's too much humidity. I'm from a terrible place with no rain. So we got a message. This is from Michael from Vancouver,

and he sent us an article about Trump-branded toilet paper to be sold in Mexico. The profits will aid deportees, according to a report, which seems pretty interesting. It seems like a Mexican lawyer plans to market Trump-branded toilet paper in the country and use the proceeds to benefit deportees.

I think this is a clever way to wipe your ass with that idea. I mean, look, if you're going to behave like an asshole, it's an appropriate product, right? Absolutely. I mean, it's really, it's simpatico, you know, to use the language of the people, you know. Of those deportees. We got a couple of images from Aaron.

Both of them are hilarious. We're going to put them on this week's show notes. Go check it out. They're both Trump images, and they're both very funny. They're both from his overseas trip. We got a message not only here, but on Twitter. This one is from Kippies and Kippies says that the that the name of the candy that we have, the black licorice salt candy is means jungle scream.

And the Swedish J sounds like a soft J that can be spelled dj hj gj or j they really loves their j's up over there like that's like it's a 10 point scrabble i do like dj that's a good one um we also got a message too on twitter tom i think it was on twitter it was said it was explanatory it explained why those things taste like, like, uh, kind of like pop rocks. It explains why they taste like salty cat pee. And that's because it's not sodium chloride. It's ammonium chloride, which is not for foods. Yeah.

It is terrible. Yeah. And it makes like when you put it on your tongue, it bubbled. Yeah. It bubbled. It is pop rocks. So offensive to the system.

I don't understand you people. We're going to have an in-studio guest next week, and I am going to have Thomas from Holy Kool-Aid try one of those licorices. Oh, I wonder if he can stop. I doubt it. I doubt it. He's going to spit it out. Everybody spits.

Nobody swallows. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah yeah got a message from okay I gotta try it because they said yeah they said to try to pronounce it

inner inger margarathy boy let me give it a whirl I gotta lean in my eyes aren't so good inner margarita bay that's pretty good inner margarita bay Let me give it a whirl. I got to lean in. My eyes aren't so good. Inner Margaret Bay. That's pretty good. Inner Margarita Bay.

Inner God of Devita. All right. So you're our Bay. And this was the story that we covered today about the child marriage. This was sent in, but they said to try to pronounce their name. So we gave it hell. Inner Margarita. Yeah.

So I want to thank Jen and Aaron from Waiting for Wrath for joining us. They were a lot of fun, funny people. We had a great time hanging out with them when we had a chance to hang out with them down at ReasonCon. We look forward to hopefully seeing them again soon and doing more cross work with them because they're just so much fun to talk to. Really funny and fun people.

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