Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 370: Geo - Political

Episode Date: July 24, 2017

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and you were talking about Space Marine chapter painting and the way that someone would go, well, that's not actually the proper paint scheme for Space Marine. I've never met anyone who's that arsed about the colours, just that they're painted well. Which would mean that the nerds that play 40k are less intolerant than religious people. Which is a weird thought.

But they do probably rape fewer kids. Anyway, glory hole, and I love the show. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. recording live from glory hole studios in chicago this is cognitive dissonance every episode we blast anyone who gets in the way we bring critical thinking skepticism not the way well our way is the way and the truth and the light. Isn't it the life?

I don't know. I'm not Christian, man. Is it the life? I think it is the life. It's the light and the life. Aren't they the same? I think it's the way, the truth and the life. Now I'm going to type it into Google, Tom. All right. Look, are you fact checking and the life? That's what it auto corrects. Type light and see if anything pops up. Okay. So life is

I don't know. That's John 14.6. Well, maybe this is like Eric 21. No, it's not. 15 and 9. It refers you back. Google's like, no, what you meant was life. Are you sure it's not Bill 23.16 or something? I'd be off saying.

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We haven't been joined by George Crabb in far too long. Far too long. So we had a long conversation with him about Trump and... He was pro, surprisingly pro. It's crazy. It was interesting.

He got on Skype, called his red hat his MAGA hat. He specifically said he wasn't with her. That's what he said. Couldn't believe it. Very surprising. Very surprising. Yeah. Wow. So racist. You wouldn't think so. You wouldn't think he's a racist. Yeah. Against white people. That's the thing too. That's the weirdest part, right? So odd. Yeah. Wouldn't, would not have guessed that. Strange. Yeah. And they will say to me and others who defend the rule of law,

we have to do something about the 11 million. And some of them are me and others who defend the rule of law, we have to do something about the 11 million. And some of them are valedictorians. Well, my answer to that is, and then by the way, their parents brought them in. It wasn't their fault. It's true in some cases, but they aren't all valedictorians. They weren't all brought in by their parents. For everyone who's a valedictorian, there's another hundred out there that they weigh 130 pounds and they've got calves the size of cantaloupes because they're hauling 75 pounds of marijuana across the desert. So this first story comes from Right Wing Watch. This is Sandy Rios.

This is kind of fucking incredible. Sandy Rios claims immigrants don't know basic hygiene. And I don't think she's saying that they know advanced hygiene. Right? Like, I just want to be clear. They went to a school for hygiene studies or something. No. They're so clean, they can fucking go in the Intel computer room.

They're like, I'm shaving them. I'm touching whatever I want here. Look at me. They go in there, they shave their pubes, and they're still fine. Doesn't even matter. That's how fucking great their hygiene is. They nair themselves. Their entire body's nair.

They're like the alpaca people. Those alpacas. Those people with the... Alpaca's not a people. Yeah, the alpaca people with no hair. They get the... Alopecias. People with alopecias?

No, the alpaca... Alopecias. Alpaca people have big, long necks, too. You know, They had hair, but someone shaved them to make sweaters. There's a sweater person. Yeah, I call this sweater Bill. Oh, shit. Actually, it's more like I call this sweater Vito.

All right. So this is Sandy Rios. Now, I'm not going to play the whole thing. The beginning of it is a guy talking. But when she starts talking, the magic starts happening, ladies and gentlemen. You know, Dan, I'm out and about a lot and different places geographically. I'm sure you are, too. Well, what does that mean?

She's a mover and a shaker. I'm in different places geographically as opposed to what being in different places, like temporally, like I just traveled through time, but I say the same spot. I have to stay in the exact same spot. What does that mean?

I'm like the time traveler's wife. I'm out and about a lot. I go to the grocery store and then sometimes I'll go to the DSW and I'll pick up a nice new pair of shoes. What the fuck are you talking about? Different places geographically. It's the only way to be in different places. There are, when you're in Washington, D.C., or if you're in like Dearborn, Michigan,

or if you're in, I don't know, Orlando, Florida, Los Angeles, and I could go on. It's often like a third world country. It is never. None of those places are like third. You need to go to geographically. You should go to a third world country. It's a third world country. In Washington, D.C.

In Washington, D.C. In Washington, D.C. What was the other one she said? L.A.? In Orlando. Orlando. Yeah. Orlando.

Where Disney is. Yeah, Orlando. Where you can get a fucking ride to the park by an orca in a car. Yeah. Orlando. I mean, I will admit, Orlando's gross. It's hot. It's sticky.

It's disgusting. It's fucking full of shitty tourist trap garbage. It's the worst. I mean, it's in Florida. Yeah. It's in Florida. It's in fucking America's diseased wang. Yeah. Like, it's horrible. It's a horror. It's bad in fucking America's diseased wang. It's horrible. It's bad.

But it's not third world bad. I view Northern Virginia, D.C. It's just amazing. It's just amazing. Then I go to other parts of the country, and it still looks like America. What the fuck are you talking about? Please be more racist. I can't wait you talking about? Please be more racist.

What are you talking about? I can't wait. She's going to be super racist. There are so many brown people here. You know, that's what it says. Sometimes when I go to the white enclaves of ultra rich America, then it looks more like

my fucking Mayberry imagination. Sometimes when I go to the Hamptons, I just think, thank God. At least Martha's Vineyard is still white. Mostly. I mean, not the help, of course. Thanks, Obama. Thing has changed.

English is heard and things are running smoothly and English is heard and things are running. Why are the trains on time? Is that what you're talking about here? Remember that American city you went to where just like you're like, fuck, does anyone here speak English? Said nobody ever in any place in America? That makes me nuts, too. It's like, you can go to plenty of places in Chicago where they're not speaking English as the first language. Sure.

Those places are just as safe as the rest of the city. I can walk around Chinatown. I can walk around Ukrainian Village. I could walk around the Vietnamese area up by Lawrence. I can go to all these other places. They're perfectly safe. They're perfectly safe.

Perfectly reasonable places to be. These are places that... And the problem is that people automatically assume someone's speaking another language, therefore they're dangerous. You know, you talk we talked a while back about that asshole who's like fucking, you know, the rock tower guy who's like, you know, that's a curse. It's a curse when other people speak different languages.

Who is that? Brian Fisher? Brian Fisher was the guy who was like, you know, the Tower of Babel is the reason why speaking other languages is a curse on humanity. And that equates to them as bad things. And she's doing the exact same thing here. She's basically like, you know, gosh, where they speak English, that's where it's civilized.

Anywhere else, it's completely uncivilized. Like, you're a fucking idiot. Yeah, equating speaking English with civilization is a terrible, terrible mistake. Like, English can be, you know, somebody's primary language, and they can be incredibly uncivilized. Go to a trailer park in the racist fucking south. You know what I mean? In the ultra-racist south where they have Dixie flags.

Talk about third world conditions. Go to Appalachia, and you can make that comparison, right? Go to white enclaves of Appalachia where everybody's dirt ass fucking poor and everybody's fucking, I mean, like people still don't have running water and they still don't have fucking electricity and flushies in parts of this country. Go to those fucking dirty fucking hillbilly towns. They're all fucking white. They all speak English. And that's a lot closer to a third world country than Dearborn, Michigan, where there's a high Muslim population. Yeah, exactly. Right. Or,

you know, Washington DC, where there's a high, not me population. Exactly. Right. Bathrooms are not, listen,

I'm being very in, in politic here, but as a female, I find, you know, bathrooms have just become unbearable because I think a lot of the people coming in just don't know basic, don't know basic hygiene, don't know how to know. Basic. Don't know. Basic hygiene.

Don't know how to handle modern amenities. They're just throwing like live chickens down the toilet. Are you fucking kidding me? They don't know how to handle my, like as if he would walk in back on, I just pooped on the floor. I didn't know how to handle as if he would walk in and be like I don't know I just pooped on the floor I don't know what to do I walked in I saw the hand dryer and I thought that's where my shit goes

I just climbed up on top of the sink and I dropped deuce right in there so uh press with care you know what that finally explains that every so often mysterious turd in the urinal it really does it's foreigners. I will say this, though.

That's a guy who tried. You know, like, you walk in, you see the guy, his pants have got to be on his ankles, because if they're anywhere else, they're in the urinal. So they've got to be... And I'm being real gracious here. They're at least at the knees, right?

So the guy, standing there, ass to the urinal, pants around his knees. If that's not a Facebook Live video, it's at least Thomas standing ovation. Right? You know what I mean? You're just like, good for you. I can't even imagine what I would do if I walked into a public bathroom and some dude is dropping a deuce in the urinal like because you'd see ever you'd see like you'd be like well that's your fucking dick like yeah and also why are you pooping in the urinal yeah also the only way to do that is to put your ass kind

of in the urinal yeah like you're you're in the urinal man and when you're done in your ass cheeks is the fucking urinal cake, right? Like you walk away with that. Yeah, you walk away with that. Scrub it out with that thing. Yeah. Right? Like, I would. What would you say?

I'd confront. Of course I would confront. The first thing I would say, well, what the fuck is wrong with you? That would be the first thing out of my mouth. What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you a fucking dirty foreigner? That's what I would say to him. I would say, Are you not used to

modern amenities? I'm going to speed dial Sandy Rio. She'll give you a piece of her mind. No say, El Yernal. Huh? She'll be delightfully unpolitic here. I think I would leave.

I would be so embarrassed. I'd be like, fuck, no, I gotta go. If I was at an establishment, the first thing I'd do is I'd leave and I would be like, I would be so embarrassed. I'd be like, fuck, no. I gotta go. Well, if I was at an establishment, the first thing I'd do is I'd leave and I'd be like, there's a guy. Yeah. There's a man pooping in the urinal. Right.

It'd be like if somebody's pooping in the sink or pooping in a booth. You know what's funny? I've heard so many stories about this. She's like, all these fucking people with their greasy curly hair, whatever. You know, like, they won't even let me touch their hair.

What's wrong with them? I just want to smell them a little. I hear they smell different. But, my wife and a bunch of other people that I've worked in retail have all told the same story

that somebody will go into the changing booths and drop a deuce. That's a fucking, just a, like, are you going to say all those people are foreigners

but people will drop deuces in those things people are fucking weird man yeah people are just fucking weird everybody knows you don't shit in a fucking dress you can be shit in a janitorial closet because they've got that mop bucket everybody knows what you do is you go to the children's section oh my god and then you i'm leaving knows what you do is you go to the children's section. Oh my God. And then you, I'm leaving. Well,

what you do is that's it. Nope. Hold on. I'm done. It's been good. All right, ladies and gentlemen, what you do is you go to the children's section and then you actually go

into the, you know, so they have the, the, the circle of hangers and all that stuff. You just go in there in between in that circle of hangers and all that stuff. You just go in there, in between in that circle of hangers. You're a monster. And it's like the

TARDIS. It's huge in there. You get more monsters from every sound. And then, here's the thing. You have a myriad of things to wipe with right in the middle. Or like, you poop in one of those plastic playhouses. In the balls. You poop in the balls. In the balls. Nobody wants poop on the balls in the balls they poop in the balls nobody wants poop on the balls

nobody wants poop on the balls no it's bad i'm talking about the big balls the balls the ball ring not my own balls the ball rock the ball you shall not call that for the kids when you just when you just tell them to go play in the unsanitary area? What is that thing? The ball bag? What is the ball? There you go. Don't play with my ball. What are you, a priest? Hey, kids, come on over and play with my ball bag. The Eli Bostick story.

If anyone needs Cecil, he now has all the restraining orders. It's a beautiful collection. Hey, Cecil, he now has all the restraining orders. It's a beautiful collection. Hey, Cecil, it's a really good thing you don't have kids, man. I know, man. I know. That immune system training

factory, that's what that is. Here, go and get sick. That's what it is. It's not a matter of what they're going to get. If they're going to get something, it's just like, what? I don't know. What are you coming out with? Norovirus this time of what they're going to get. If they're going to get it, it's just like what? Like, I don't know what you're coming out with. Norovirus. Come on, kids.

You need to get more ringworm. Right. You just puke on the floor a little bit. That'd be amazing. Oh, but for some of the country, it's not a reality. For those of us that live in the middle of it, we see the changes and we're saying, no, we've got to control this. We've got to assimilate people. We have to teach them all kinds of things

in order to make this work. You have to civilize the barbarians? She's right. What they have to add to all the naturalization clashes is, okay, so this lever flushes the toilet. So you have to just press on this and it'll make it go, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo. And then the poopy goes down. It's not one lever.

It's not one of the Japanese clamshell things. You can figure it out by accident. Don't we teach two-year-olds to do it? How old is a kid when they start peeing in a potty? Two, three. Three? You teach them how to use a potty at three. Right.

Do you think they'll ever be a wall? I don't know. He can't do anything. So I have a hard time imagining that they'll pass that bill to sort of make a wall. Um, but I, I did hear that ISIS, uh, the, the, uh, the stuff that they're doing now to sort of get rid of immigrants has been increasing. So it was bad under Obama. Obama was deporting, he deported millions of people, but it's even worse now. They're deporting people that, you know, really haven't done anything wrong except for enter the country illegally. And I know some people out there are like, well, that's wrong, that's wrong. But, you know, these are people who, some of these people are seeking asylum, right? Like they, like their unsafe is unsafe for them right and they leave that home looking for a refugee status and and the people who who say you know well it's illegal to come into the country it's like yeah you know if your life was on the line would you be like yeah you know i'll just wait

it out i'll see if my paperwork goes through, you know, just to see if I'm going to, you know, maybe survive the night. That's bullshit. None of those people wouldn't do that. But you can sit on your fucking high horse now because you're fucking here. Yeah.

Through no virtue of your own. Yeah. Like, let's be super clear. Most of us, not all, obviously there's some people, but the vast majority of us are where we are by virtue of birth we didn't choose it right how many fucking choice and that i didn't make any choice and it is an absurdity to think i'll tell you what i i will be very frank like if it's a matter of like how you gonna feed yourself and your family i'm gonna cross a border

i'll fucking cross your border yeah i'll fucking take a selfie me pissing on your fucking border i don't give a fuck i'll feed me and my family first i have an obligation to those people these boards it's all it's who gives a shit who gives you i would cross that fucking border all day you would too yeah you know it's everybody it's it's real easy to have high-minded principles about what other people should do when your fucking belly is full real fucking easy for sure you know for sure now i have to tell you it's an unbelievably complex subject nobody knew that health care could be so complicated and we are joined now by geo from the geologic podcast geo it's been we're talking right before we we aired it's been a really aggressively and unnecessarily long time since we've been able

to talk much too long it's like some kind of some kind of hospital induced coma is what it feels like you know it's been way too long gentlemen for sure that's usually the excuse i hear more now you're now you're world travelers you've been all over the all over the globe i'm stuck here in bethlehem and you guys are just oh we, we're going to go to England. We're going to go to Australia. Weren't you just at a conference? Weren't you just working on a conference recently? Well, I was in New York for Nexus, which is just up the street here for me, basically. But yeah, Nexus just happened, which is always a great time. Manhattan, the Fashion Institute of Technology, which is just that in and of itself. You get, what, 600 skeptics at the Fashion Institute of Technology, and you just watch the pants just explode.

It's quite wonderful. It's quite wonderful. Yeah, the fanny packs are just in full force, and it's magical. It's magical. Skeptics are typically known for their chic fashion sense. Yes, their fashion acumen. But it's all good. They're so uncool that they're absolutely cool, which is the thing.

Those are our people. They can discuss the evolution of the t-shirt and its various incarnations. Yeah, that's awesome. So really, thanks so much for coming on the show. Oh, my pleasure. I don't know why we waited so long. Right? Yeah, that's awesome. So really, thanks so much for coming on the show. Oh, my pleasure. I don't know why

we waited so long. Yeah, I know. I really don't. We just, you know, Well, it was the court order, wasn't it? Yeah. I think that was

probably part of it. Yeah, that inspired, like, that's like a year thing. Okay, all right, good, good, good. And I think that's like, I think if I remember reading it, it's like a physical distance, like a thousand yards

or something. Yeah, I think, yeah. So I can't just fling that stuff again. But yeah, anyway, so we don't have to get into that. We don't have to get into that thing. So we want to talk about a story from CNN. This is a, and it's funny too, because just a moment ago I was thinking, you know, I sent you the story eight days ago and I'm looking at it now and it feels quaint. It feels actually quaint. The timeline of our, you know, there's this sort of theory that, you know, the reason it feels like time speeds up as you get older is because it actually does. Like that the oscillations kind of of the universe are speeding up and that we can't really tell because there's no, you know, there's no reference.

But there's something in the human animal that is allowing us to perceive time speeding up well i think it's like with the election of 45 i think it even went into hyperdrive now so that it feels like two days now yeah because i i had the same exact thought like oh this this old story from what was this like five months ago four months ago no this was tuesday this was tuesday yeah it's unbelievable it's unbelievable it's so funny like like i feel like all i want to do is just hug my knees and rock back and forth in the shower until this is all i just want somebody to get one of those like elephant brushes that they scrub animals with just scrub me down silkwood style so i can wash wash the trump off of you.

I think there's a business opportunity there, boys. Maybe we could have some kind of Trump scrub company or some kind of, maybe. A Trump scrub would be amazing. I'm not going to lie, kind of hot. That'd be kind of hot. Alright, so here's the headline here.

We don't have to get much past the headline, but we will. Donald Trump Jr.'s latest email explanation to Sean Hannity doesn't make any sense. And so this is this is basically he met with a Russian lawyer who purported to have information about the Hillary campaign. And that seems like a really bad idea, like a really big conflict of interest. And of course, they've been like, hey, we didn't meet with any conflict of interest. of course they've been like hey we didn't maybe there's no conflict of interest then yeah you did so then he says okay all right all right and this is the quote i didn't know if there was any credibility i don't know if there was anything behind it i can't vouch for the information someone sent me an email i can't help what

somebody sends me i read it i responded accordingly yeah end of story and i so i i will say this and then i will hand it off to to you gentlemen i i will say like i will agree to a portion of this right you cannot control what reaches your inbox right you're it's that's it like you can't set up a filter called no russian lawyer absolutely yeah i mean until you get one Like you can't set up a filter called no Russian lawyer. Sure. Absolutely. Yeah. I mean, until you get one, then you can mark them as Russian lawyer, you know? So, okay,

fine. But it's the, and I responded portion of the program that he seems to have a difficult time understanding is deeply fucking problematic. I wonder if he has an automatic response set up solely for Russian agents. Like, so maybe it actually was out of his hands.

That's just, it's a bot that he has set up you know somehow so that if there's a dot ru address comes to his thing in essence it syncs up with his schedule and manafort's schedule and kershner's schedule and they all meet like so it's out of his hands really because it's just yeah i don't understand technology i have an iphone i don, because it's just, I don't understand technology. I have an iPhone. I don't know. It just does it. I don't know. That would be almost as sort of a possible explanation as the one that's been given of just like, yeah, so we met. I got this anonymous thing.

I don't know. And this odd pride of like, I didn't know what it was. I didn't know what it was. Like, that didn't know what it was. I didn't know what it was. Like, that excuses it. And then that it goes from being three people in the room to four people to six people to now eight people were in that meeting. I am not going to be surprised when, let's say, an hour from now, we find out that Trump himself was there. Well, it took us two years to get three people on a fucking Skype call right now. It took us two years to get three people on a fucking Skype call right now. I got to tell you, like when I try to organize a conference call with eight fucking people that are like busy people, it's ridiculous. It's ordering pizza for teenagers like it's an impossibility.

It's so insanely difficult, but they all fucking flock to this meeting. You know, you asked you asked a question, Tom. You said, you know, should you be responsible for what people send you? And you're right. You shouldn't be responsible for that. But there was a story that was going on recently where somebody brought up Gore during the campaign was got some information about Bush's debate, the debate questions or something, this debate answers that he was going to give somebody had sent that to him anonymously and he went to the fbi like he was like no i'm not my i don't i'll give that i'm bringing that to the fbi i'm not gonna like so so yeah you might not be able to control what you get but you certainly can control how you what you do after you get it okay but hold on hold on because it says in his defense that he responded accordingly.

I guess that's true. I unconsidered that line of argument. My favorite bit of that interview was that at the end when Hannity kind of says, you know, I don't really have any other questions because we've covered it all. We've pretty much covered it all. And so that's it that's it and it's it's i mean it's to watch i actually enjoy watching hannity in a in a weird way kind of the same way that i enjoy like you know chewing tinfoil because it's just such a unique feeling but to to sort of i'm gonna brush my teeth and have a big glass of orange juice too too. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. No, in the same way that, you know, like when an umpire in baseball has that little ball strike counter thingy in his palm, and he's like clicking, you know, for strikes and balls. Like, you sort of, I do that for every line that Hannity says. It's like, well, that's not true.

Not true. Click. Not true. Click. Not true. Click. Misrepresentation. Click.

Exaggeration. Click. And it's just, you just sort of tally up. And when a factual statement is made, it's like, it's incredible. It's like this revelation of, amidst this ocean of just complete misrepresentation and complete misinterpretation and complete just fabrication, occasionally a line comes out that is true. And it might be something like, you know, good evening, today's Monday. And you go like, oh, yes, all right.

That's true. But tell me you don't check your calendar just in case. Oh, seriously. I'm not taking your fucking word for that. I wouldn't put it past him. I wouldn't put it past him. Yeah, it's astounding. And the backpedaling, too. I mean, again, if you were to transfix or transpose these circumstances with any, you know, with either our former president or Hillary, I mean, it's, you know, and both sides sayosed all the time. But it's like just you have to try to try to fathom what kind of a response would have occurred on conservative radio if Hillary if Hillary's daughter, let's say, had a meeting with any foreign government, let alone Russian government. One of the things that they talked about with Obama,

one of the, one of the biggest scandals he had was he wore a tan suit. Oh, I mean, like, like, can you imagine? Fancy mustard.

He used, he used Dijon mustard. That's right. Yeah. A segment about president Obama using Dijon mustard. And what this said about, no, no.

What did it say about him? Was it fancy? He's fancy, yeah. He's obviously this elite. Yeah, he's too elite. Regular American French's mustard or whatever it is is not good. That's fair. This is a guy who's got to use Dijon mustard in his tan suit.

That's fair, though, because I remember the commercials, the Grey Poupon commercials. Oh, yeah, with the limo or whatever. Yeah. Right. The guy pulls up and he says of course excuse me would you like to collude pardon me would you like to collude with the soviet union yeah yeah wait i i do want it's not in this article but it does you know another justification that uh trump jr made you know for for taking this meeting he basically said hey you would have done it too. Yeah. That is one of the things. They backpedaled. So what happened is initially they said the meeting never happened. Right. Then they

found out that the meeting happened and all these people said we're going to leak the emails. And he said, well, I'll just do that for you. And so then he posted all the emails. And they're like, oh, wait, the meeting happened. And he's like, oh, yeah, it did happen, but it wasn't a big deal. We didn't get anything. And then they're like, yeah, but you said you did. Oh, actually, we did get something, but it's not a big deal. We didn't get anything. And then they're like, yeah, but you said you did. Oh, actually we did get something, but it's not a big deal.

And then they go, they keep pedaling. That's everything is a backpedal. Everything is, oh yeah, well, but you would have done it too. And oh, it's not, it's not anything. It doesn't matter that we got any of this stuff. And they just keep, everything keeps backpedaling. And for some reason, even though they're,

they keep on sort of drawing a line in the sand and then stepping behind it. Nobody calls him on the previous line. Right, right. I mean, someone emails you and says, I know a great way to murder your wife. I'm listening. And you reply, I love it. Let's meet. And you meet and you're defending yourself in court. And basically the guy shows up and he doesn't have a way to kill your wife. And so you say, your honor, you didn't actually have a way to kill my wife. What's the problem?

Right. That is the defense. That was the preliminary defense. Like, yeah, we didn't get any. Yeah, we wanted to get some information, but we didn't get any information from a hostile foreign government. So what's the what's the problem? So what's the problem? And that everyone comes to the defense of it.

And that very, very, very few Republican, let alone conservative government members say, this isn't cool. It's a lot of just that backpedaling, like you said. It's just this continual, well, yeah, well, yeah, it's not that big a deal. You know, what does collusion really mean anyway? Yeah, with a foreign government, right? What is defined tre collusion really mean anyway yeah with a foreign government right now what is defined treason really yeah yeah it's so funny that you say that too because you know when he when he made that comment about uh a woman getting a facelift i forgot her name mika micah something like that yeah it was the woman from msnbc yeah yeah from morning show yeah so he made he tweeted some insensitive bullshit about her having a facelift bleeding still from her face

right it's a stupid thing to say. Well, he was roundly chastised by members of his own party for that. And rightly so. But on orders of magnitude of importance, like when we're talking about, because I think like from a Trump level, at some point, like it's like, okay, it's like having a shitty dog like a really really shitty dog right and it's like all right well we know he's gonna chew on something but he didn't swallow the wedding ring today you know like so good dog good dog you know i guess so he's gonna do something stupid like we're focusing on like stupid minuscule meaningless sort of mean-spirited shit we know he's a mean-spirited misogynist.

It's not new. He doesn't even try to hide it. He doesn't even try to hide that shit. He can't even meet a foreign dignitary without being like... Without patting his ass on the way out or something. But this shit matters. The Mika thing is interesting.

And the reason, I think, the reason that there was a greater outcry at that is because a lot of these senators, a lot of these congressmen are married, and their wives are looking at them saying, are you kidding me? Yeah. Like, really? And that is driving them, and they have to kind of keep the peace at home. And so they respond, oh, well, this is inappropriate, inappropriate. Yeah, but how how the fuck did they skate by on the grab your pussy thing you know what i mean like like how does that

work you know because like like that's the thing that really got me about that whole micah thing because it's like it's like okay yeah he said something horrible and and he's being an insensitive cock and he's clearly he's clearly saying you're an old broad like that's what he's saying he's like gosh he's he's such an he's such a hack and she's such an old broad. And I can't believe that they, they came to my place and I didn't let him come to my place and I'm way better than them. And he's just,

it's just, it's just an asshole in those tweets. But you know, recorded is him saying, you know, you can sexually assault women when you're rich and it's totally fine. And, and I just don't know how,

how do you, and that's before people punched the chat you know what i mean like this is before and now we're now we're appalled by this by the and it just feels it feels out of place it feels like it feels like you should be like well fine he's just gonna be an asshole anyway everybody knows it yeah it's the it's it's all the other secondary things that people are upset about even more so than that that influenced their choosing. And to a lot of—understandably so to a lot of voters, it was this idea of, like, there are bigger problems than this guy being a misogynist asshole. Which is crazy to think about, but on another level, it's understandable.

And you kind of go like, oh, okay. You know, and it's worth the shakeup. It's worth all that stuff and to kind of overlook it, you know, and it's, there's a lot of, I think there's a lot of association with a guy like that. Again, it's that kind of country club mentality. Now, like, okay, so my, you know, I play in a band for a living. That's what I do. So I'm in a lot of wedding situations. I'm in a lot of private party situations. And I play very often in a lot of country clubs. And there's a lot of very lovely people. And there's a certain number of people in a place like that that are of that kind of mindset. And I think a lot of people can associate with that kind of outward asshole

where they go, well, he's really a good guy. It's like, yeah, you know, he said some inappropriate stuff or whatever, but you know, but actually I know he like, he donates to the thing. He worked at the school for a while and he's actually an okay, you know, you have to just let Fred be Fred.

Fred's kind of, you know, yeah, it's inappropriate and he might do a little touchy feely thing, but he's actually an okay you know you have to just let fred be fred fred's kind of you know yeah he's it's inappropriate and he might he might do a little touchy-feely thing but he's actually an okay guy and i think a lot of people associate with that they understand and they see a guy like like trump and they and and they they they excuse it in that same way of like i know that guy yeah he's kind of a jerk but you know know, deep down, he's all right. He's all right. You know, and that sets the bar very low in terms of initially. And then now everything else just comes to roost after that. Sam Harris had a guy on,

the guy who does Dilbert, draws Dilbert. I guess the guy's a, he doesn't bill himself as a conservative, but he certainly sounded like a conservative to me when I was listening to him. And one of the things that he kept saying was, and I didn't listen to the whole podcast because the guy is genuinely annoying. But one of the things he kept saying was, you know, the one side gets stuck on what happened and the actual facts of something.

The other side, the other side is more stuck on the emotional truthfulness of it. The other side is more stuck on the emotional truthfulness of it. So while Trump will say something like, I'm going to throw, you know, we should throw out all the Muslims. And one side is immediately like, what the fuck are you talking about? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. We shouldn't block these countries from coming in. And it's a silly thing. And how do you even institute it? And yada, yada, yada.

The other side is like they're emotionally attached to that idea and they say yeah maybe he can't do it but at least we agree with him or they'll say like well it's not what he's saying entirely what he's he's saying a part of that are you you get the what the i hear this sort of thing it's like that but you understand the idea the idea you know what you understand and that kind of gets to your point, Gio. And it's a point that I think is insanely annoying. Right? It's like, well, Fred, you know what I mean? That Fred guy, yeah, he sexually assaulted the waitress.

But deep down, he's a good guy. Like, no, you're not. No, you're not. Exactly. Those things are mutually incompatible. Yeah. We are nothing more than the actions we undertake. Like, we are not more than that. We are the things we do.

Everything else buttresses the things that we do, right? That's how you move through the fucking world. Like the things we do matter. But again, this is the example of privilege. I mean, it is the textbook Wikipedia photo for privilege. established behavior because there is a history of socioeconomic norms or whatever you want to call it or not norms but the way things are set up a a fred gets to cash in on his privilege so that he can be sexually inappropriate but because he has 200 years of oppression behind him he can get away with it because it's like,

well, deep down, he's a good guy. It's the entire sort of fabric of privilege, which culminates in a guy like our president. I mean, it is just the ultimate example of privilege and unquestioned privilege. Absolutely. Look at just the two last presidents. An unquestioned privilege. Absolutely. Look at just the two last presidents. You know, one guy had to be the guy who did the Harvard Law Review, graduate top of your class, be, you know, like the very best he could possibly be with a squeaky clean backstory. And the other guy just had to be rich.

Yeah. You know? Just had to show up, basically. just had to be rich. Yeah. You know? Just had to show up, basically. Yeah. With all of his baggage,

without being prepared, without understanding what was actually involved, just because his dad knew people. Yeah. And again, another example of just ultimate privilege. And yeah,

you know, Obama has to be, I mean, again, imagine, for as harsh as this sounds, imagine a black candidate on stage with his third wife and six children from three different women. Different wives. That candidate wouldn't get anywhere close to presidential stage. That guy couldn't run for city council.

Yeah. I mean, it's the complete double standard. Complete double standard. I mean, it's not even a double standard to make it worse imagine if it were if if that were a woman white or black sure it had three marriages and six oh forget about it oh my gosh yeah i mean it's it's actually even more egregious than that yeah it's just more egregious but like because he's a rich white dude it's like nobody even brings it up in fact not knowing what nobody bring it up people would say that like to bring that up would be uncouth right it would be like petty and small and like why would you talk about that like you could fucking bet

your fucking bottom dollar yeah if it were a minority or a woman that would be it would define it would define everything about them yes but you wouldn't even you wouldn't even have to sort of you wouldn't even have to bring it up in that situation because it would it would that would just be that understood thing sure of that of that cliche of like oh i'll see that's what they do yeah and that's where it ends yeah yeah all right so let's let's talk about another story because it's been eight days and like the amount of crazy shit that has happened in the last eight days is I mean, you almost can't even keep track of it all. So this is from Ars Technica. And I know we didn't send this.

You saw this read chunks of it. Trump wants a talk show, a talk radio host to be the USDA's chief scientist. The Department of Agriculture, Agriculture Science will be run by someone with no science experience. The Trump administration formally named its candidate for the Department of Agriculture's Undersecretary of Research, Education, and Economics, opposed it serves as the agency's chief scientist. The choice, Sam Clovis. Now, Sam Clovis is not a scientist.

He is a conservative talk show host. In fact, and then I'll pass this over to you guys in a scientist. He is a conservative talk show host. In fact, and then I'll pass this over to you guys in a second. In fact, when he was interviewed with a public radio station in 2014, the interviewer said, hey, you know, climate change, that's real, huh? I'm paraphrasing

a little. Clovis says, and I won't paraphrase Clovis, though. Clovis says, quote, I have looked at the science, and I have enough of a science background to know when I'm being boofed. Because that's a word when you're a Clovis. Incidentally, ProPublica checks it out. Clovis has never taken a single undergraduate course in any, any science. Which I don't even know how that's possible.

He has a DVD box set of Lost in Space oh the pain danger Mr. Trump this guy's got about the same body shape by the way he's a fucking barrel he's a mush barrel

is it any surprise, though? I mean, I am expecting, since today's news, I am expecting OJ to be in the cabinet at some point. It's coming. Would it be that crazy?

It's coming. He's going to be the head of the FBI. He's going to replace Sessions? He's going to replace Sessions. Sessions is going to be the head of the FBI. The Justice Department? Yeah, yeah. He's going to replace Sessions? He's going to replace Sessions. Sessions is going to finally, you know, go back on the Keebler box and O.J. is going to be the Attorney General. He could be the Transportation Secretary. He knows how to drive that freeway. That's true.

No problem. That's true. I can't believe every single one of the people that he's picking, though. You know, the Betsy DeVos was amazing. She's like, yeah, there's bears. You need guns for bears? And then, you know, Sessions, of course, is an absolute racist.

So it's crazy that that guy gets in. And there's like been so many people that he's put forth like a fucking Rick fucking Perry. The guy who wanted to dismantle the thing that he's in charge of now. Rick Perry. Right.

A guy who put glasses on. He couldn't even name all of them. And that's the one he forgot to name. That's the one he forgot. And once he's in, he goes, wow, there's like actually a lot of responsibility here. With a total straight sort of response. This is this, this is kind of an important organization.

I didn't realize this is this importance. Like, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Trump said the same thing. Trump came out and said like, this job's really hard.

Yeah, sure. Sure. So hard. Now imagine if, if any one of us sort of was like, you know, had something that,

that opposite to what we had said, sort of be revealed to us. Wouldn't you question sort of was like, you know, had something that opposite to what we had said sort of be revealed to us? Wouldn't you question your entire belief system? Like, you know what I mean? Like, if something sort of occurred where all of a sudden you were shown some piece of evidence that was completely opposite to what you sort of had been proposing and espousing, wouldn't you stop and go, like, what else am I wrong about? Yep. Like, that's, I would hope that any human on some level would respond that way. And most maybe wouldn't, which is the beauty of being a human, I guess, on some level,

the self-deluding nature. But, you know, oh, this thing that I wanted to eliminate, turns out that it's quite useful. My response would be like, what else do that I want to eliminate might actually be useful? Should I take a second? Should I take a second to sort of like self-evaluate? I'm just going to barrel forward until the next episode of Dancing on the Stars. It's just with the stars, whatever. You know, people say things like, you know, insurance is expensive. And today, what did he say?

Oh, my God. Did you see the insurance thing? Insurance is like $12 a year if you're 21. And he didn't understand the difference between the way insurances work, different types of insurance. He relates a story about insurance that makes his understanding appear to be that medical insurance or health insurance is the same thing as life insurance. Life insurance, yeah. He described it in that model. You know what's absolutely astounding?

Nothing costs $12 a year. Right. Name a thing that costs $12 a year. Pandora's more expensive than that. I mean, six bottles of soda in a 12-month period. Like, what costs $12? Nothing, nothing costs $12. Nothing, not a, what?

I mean, I can't even think. I can't even think. That's so true. I mean, apart from like the interest on my savings account, maybe that's $12 for the year. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. It's such, I mean, but even like it's $12 and they,

because there's another quote where he misunderstands how insurance works fundamentally as well. He says something like it's like $15 a month. So I've seen him throw up both of those. Now, granted, they're like literally in orders of magnitude different numbers. Like 12 a year versus 15 a month. It's wildly different numbers. They're still horrifyingly undervalued. And again, he doesn't understand how this shit works.

But like, this is a guy who's proposing, he's come out and said that the Republican health care bill is terrible. He came out and said, really mean shit about it. Then he came out and said, it's going to be great. Then he came out and said, we're going to pass it. Then he came out and said, we're going to pass it. Then he came out and said, it'll never pass. We're going to let Obamacare fail. The guy doesn't know what he's talking about. He literally doesn't know anything about this.

And he was astonished once more. Another guy who's like, this shit's really complicated. Nobody knew how complicated it was. Nobody knew. Everybody knew. Anybody's ever bought insurance, you asshole. Of course. Don't forget also when Paul Ryan said, like, we can't have insurance work by having healthy people pay for sick people.

Yeah. Right. And it's like, no, that's the definition of insurance. That's how it works. That is exactly how it works. That is pretty much. The guy putting the plan together who doesn't understand the basic tenets of how it works. It's pretty much the guy, the guy, the guy putting the plan together who doesn't understand the basic tenants of how insurance works.

You know, I feel like when I watch what Trump is doing, it feels like there's a lot of roadblocks in his way. There's not a lot that's happening. No major legislation gets passed. I know he's doing some executive orders and he did slip a few past the goal here and there, but for the most part,

he's, he's being, he's, he's just inept, right? He's not doing a lot. Uh, the, especially with the healthcare bill, that's, that's an example of something that just can't go right for any of the, any of the Republican side. But one of the things that he can do, and this is going back to the story is he can appoint people that can really fuck things up. You know what I mean? These people have a lot of power, a wide latitude of

power to do a lot of different things. You know, do you think that, you know, the longer we go into this presidency, the, you know, I mean, is it, is it, is it going to get exponentially worse? Do you think, do you have a feeling like there's going to be some sort of gridlock there, but this sort of thing is going to continue to happen. Yeah, I don't know if there's a tipping point in terms of people that want to be involved with the administration at some point, too. Like, is there a point where things start getting so toxic that any appointees aren't going to want to be associated with it. Like I already understand that it's difficult to find people that not just can do even, even the minimal requirements of whatever jobs that they're being appointed to, but that they need to be fully in the Trump camp

and have never said a bad thing about him. And that's, that's like, that's the scariest thing to me is that there's always been these positions in government that are like, not the top guy, not the second guy, but the one who's like six or seven or eight places down, who kind of actually runs things. And all those people have left because they're sort of had those gigs irrespective of whoever was in the White House, whichever party was in the White House. So you've got some Republican guys that do that sixth or seventh position in whatever department it is. You've got some Democrats that do those positions.

And now, because the slate was wiped clean, unless you're an absolute vociferous Trump supporter who was there from the beginning of the campaign, you don't get that gig and you're gone. And so all these positions are open. Look at what happened with the, with the, when the Navy ship in, uh, was it in Japan or Taiwan? Where was the, the, the, the Navy ship? I thought it was Japan where it got hit. It was Japan, right? Yeah. And like, there's no secretary of the Navy. I think that's correct. I'm not sure, but there's, there's some, a high position in the Navy is not filled. So like there was no one to kind of report to and to try to figure out what's going on. You know, there's ambassadors that are not filled in certain countries and stuff, because again, it's, you can't find the people that are 100% Trump supporters to fill those positions because in Trump's mind, it's, you know, you have to be a complete devotee.

Right. Otherwise, you don't get the gig. You know, you have to prostrate yourself in front of, you know, the Lord Emperor Trump or you don't get the gig. And it's those positions that actually run government. Yeah. You know, apart from the senators and the congressmen and all that stuff. I mean, that sort of is on top. But the day to day. Sure. The deep state. Yeah. You know, apart from the senators and the congressmen and all that stuff. I mean, that sort of is on top. But the day to day. Sure. The deep state. Yeah. Well, yeah, exactly. You know, but that's the stuff that's that's slowly just is kind of eroding. I mean,

I what was a great article about the State Department, how like there's just this malaise of like, what are we doing? What are we doing here? You know, there's just this malaise of like what are we doing what are we doing here every day there's an existential crisis absolutely yeah right now while we're talking right now while we're talking news alert president trump reshuffling legal team his fucking legal spokesman resigned yeah today people just people just like i got i got other shit to do called not be associated with you. Of course. Of course.

And then there's got to be a point where the congressmen and senators realize that their reelection bid will be threatened. And that's when everything changes. start realizing that the cards are stacked against them in the next election in 2018, that's when they can start doing different stuff. And that's when they'll start singing a different song. Right now, they are still hoping that the base will show up the way the base does, and we'll reelect them. But as soon as those wins change, their song will change. And who knows what will happen in terms of the health care bill and other kinds of bills. It's such a weird, precarious, self-interested balance that I can't imagine a month from now, let alone a year from now, what kind of stories we'll be talking about. It's safe. Exactly. Exactly. a year from now, like what kind of stories we'll be talking about. Because it's so... Exactly. Exactly.

Yeah. So, Gio, you just recently celebrated a 500th anniversary. You're past 500 now on your episodes. I did. Yeah.

Back in February, we had our 500th show. So we did a live 500-minute long program, which is eight hours and 20 minutes. Which was... It was really fun. I was surprised how fast... show. So we did a live 500 minute long program, which is eight hours and 20 minutes, which was, it was really fun. I was, I was surprised how fast that, I mean, as you always say, it's like,

oh, you know, when you're working and you're doing what you enjoy, time flies. Yeah. It was one of these things where I kept like thinking, oh crap, we got to get to this. Oh, we got to get to this. Oh, we got to get to this. And there was a bunch of stuff that we didn't get to. And, uh, you know, for a thousand, I'll have to do a thousand minutes. Maybe we'll get to everything at that point. But it was a good time. It was a good time. It was just sort of worked out. It was 10 years in February and it was 500 shows in February. So, so there we were. And it's, it's, it's crazy. Like we were talking before we sort of started the, the, the profile of podcasting is, has changed since we all began this little endeavor nigh a decade ago. It's pretty amazing. So what would you say, like, over that 500 episodes, other than talking to us, like, what would you say some of the highlights have been?

I mean, honestly, like, because your whole career changed with this podcast. You've traveled because of your show. Oh, yeah. So what have some of the highlights of your careers in podcasting been? 500 is an achievement. I think the highlight for me or the highlights for me has been some of the people that I've met. I mean, and the absolute sort of virtual slash slowly turning into real friendships that I've made. I mean, the guy that I met on Twitter who listened to the show, who ended up orchestrating my string quartet piece that I wrote two years ago, has become an incredibly close friend.

Veiko, my friend from Finland. Veiko Rihu. You know, a guy that there is no reason that I should know is alive or exists. And yet I've been to his house, he's been to my house, and we've become really good friends. exists. And yet I've been to his house, he's been to my house, and we've become really good friends. People in Australia, people in New Zealand, people in England, people in Canada, people in Mexico that I consider friends. It's just been this incredible connective opportunity to meet people of similar minds, of different backgrounds. And it's been completely unexpected and a complete, just bonus. You know, I thought I would do a couple of the, I've told this story a bunch of times, but I thought I would do this for maybe a year. I'll do 50 shows just to kind of 25, 50 shows, whatever, just to do it, just to see what happens. And, you know, 10 years later,

it's like all of these friendships that I have, all of these experiences that I've had have just been completely, completely unexpected. And it's just been this huge gravy boat, you know, it's just been so good. You guys know, I mean, you guys end up in Manchester and it's like, what? Yeah. You know, it's, it's, it's really cool. You talk to somebody, like you said, that you're a friend from Finland, but you talk to somebody who says, you know, I've never met you, but I listen to you every week and I hear what you have to say. And I have these conversations with you, even though you're not with me. And I feel like we're friends. And you hear that all the time. And it always is.

It's always shocking and it's always flattering. And it always is, it's always shocking and it's always flattering. And it's a really neat thing, you know, this medium that sort of got democratized with cheap microphones and internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The, I mean, I've had, it's funny, over a decade, there's one listener that I think his dad kind of used to listen to the show. And when he started, he was 12. He would listen to my program. He's 12 and he's 22 years old now. How crazy is that?

Yeah. You know, he's like a person, a dude. He's a guy. And he'll say, like, I've been listening for, you know, since I was a kid. I mean, and just like, you know, you've influenced me and you get these, I mean, I'm sure you guys get some really heartfelt letters from people that maybe are living in environments where they can't quite express their skepticism or their religious questioning. And, you know, we are sort of like an extended family, or at least an opportunity to hear a familiar voice, or familiar thoughts, or at least thoughts that they agree with. to hear a familiar voice or familiar thoughts or at least thoughts that they agree with. And it's, I mean, it's a really special, that's probably another huge surprise that I didn't quite expect to get a letter from someone that said, you know, oh, I live in, you know, the reddest of red states

and I can't tell anyone that I'm an atheist or that I, you know, that I really love science and I like to listen to your show and you're silly and you talk about this stuff and it's like a chance for me to escape for 45 minutes a week. And it's meant a lot. And that, you know, I can't explain how touching and moving letters like that are. T.O., if people were going to find your show, where would they look? Geologicpodcast.com is your best bet. Or you could just Google H-R-A-B. That's my last name. And the first 26,000 things are me. George, it was so great having you on. Let's not do this. Let's not spread this out in the future. We'll have you on soon. Okay. Yeah. Let's live. What next? The next administration, maybe?

Yeah. We'll see you on Tuesday. Yeah. It could be tense. Who knows? Thanks for joining us, George. Thanks so much, man. Hang in there, boys. Hang in there.

All right. Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar. That is how the Klingon lures a mate. This story is from the Friendly Atheist blog. A Pakistani pizza shop owner covered his robot waitress's neck to avoid scandal. Pizza shop owner Osama Jafri says sales have doubled since he introduced the robot back in February.

He says sales have doubled since he introduced the robot back in February. This robot looks seriously like something from, I mean, it looks like something from lost in space, lost in space longer than longer than 30 years ago. Like Buck Rogers was better than this. It's this. Yeah, right. This looks like it looks like a shitty toy at a goddamn dollar store. That's what it looks like. It looks like a shitty fucking piece of shit toy at a goddamn dollar store. That's what it looks like. It looks like a shitty fucking piece of shit toy at a fucking dollar store.

It's just enormous, right? But the best part is, like, the robot waitress, it says it resembles a short, slender woman wearing a long dress and an apron. So he wrapped a scarf around the robot's neck so as not to offend conservative patrons. But they didn't put, put like a scarf around the fleshlight on her which is weird right you would think that would be more offensive yeah but it's chafee that's that's the thing like it's just i mean i want to render the fleshlight like inoperable have you seen the video for this no okay so i can't play the video right i don't want to play the because it's just it's just somebody talking but watch the video if you get

a chance go here this robot is like do you remember when you were a kid and you got the shitty remote control car? And the remote control car only had two things. It would go forward or reverse turn. It would reverse turn. And remember how slow it went where you as a kid would hit the button and you could fucking outpace it walking as slow as grandma? That's how slow this thing this thing goes p quad slow okay this thing is like when it shows that you're up at your table you've already died of dysentery you're like fucking oregon trail slow oh my god it's awesome

and then it doesn't actually do anything it comes out with hot food that they put in in the kitchen and then a guy sort of shuffles alongside of it. And then when it gets to your table, then he lifts the stuff off and set it down. So it's basically like a fucking... It's a tray on wheels. It's a tray. It's a fucking... It's a cart.

It's a cart with a scarf. These people are so easily offended that a big plastic tray... Yeah, a big plastic tray. They're like, because you know there's somebody who's like, I'd fuck that. There has to be. It's like, and it'd be like, you're like, the fucking robot's got like fucking

circuit boards everywhere. It's smoking and sputtering sparks. And dude's like over the top of it, fucking that thing, smacking the shit out of it. And he's like, what the fuck? He's like, hey, if this robot didn't want it it should have worn a scarf this wasn't in the operating agreement he's like comes out he's like did you rape my robot like really what the fuck i need a robot rape kit. It's just pipe cleaners.

I am so afraid of women. You're afraid of women that are women. I know. It's so crazy. It's so ridiculous. Your society. I don't know that it's afraid of women. I think it's, we want to put, we are so anxious to put women in

their place that we will even put effigies of women in their place. Yeah. Yeah. Don't wait on the uppity, non-gendered plastic, woman shaped objects. Let's not give these women shaped objects any ideas. Yeah. Can you imagine what they would have to

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It's the right wing watch. I think there's a miss misstatement in the title. It says Kevin Swanson, Katy Perry's promotion of lesbianism will drive her fans. And crazily enough, it says to suicide rather than to masturbate. So I don't super weird. I'm not sure how you spell check must have made

a change there. But let's listen to sackcloth and ashes. Kevin Swanson bemoan Katy Perry's lesbianism. Well, as we as we think about apostasy, I want to close the program by comparing two very important popular singers

and the trajectory that they've taken. Katy Perry being the first, taking a trajectory towards much apostasy. And she has been in the press big time in her Christian apostasy since she called herself a non-Christian in 2014. She said, I am not a Christian in 2014. That was, what, three years ago. Several years after she abandoned her parents' worldview and her parents' church, and she said, I got tired of singing Amazing Grace

and began to write songs relating to lesbianism and encouraging young teeny bop and 13-year-old girls towards lesbianism. Yeah, because everybody, every lesbian out there has heard a song either by Katy Perry or by, I don't know, Heart? Like, what else?

Melissa Etheridge. Melissa Etheridge. He's worked up about that I Kissed a Girl song? Yeah, I think so, still. Like, seriously, that song came out like a fucking million years ago. Nobody even, I had to go back in the memory bank to even figure out what the hell he was talking about. The sequel to that song is I Strap On Da Girl. It's a very different song.

It is. I have that on my rotation. It's the only song I listen to when I work out. Actually, that's like, work out. I work out for about three and a half minutes. That occurred in 2008. So Katy Perry's apostasy came out full that occurred in 2008 so katie perry's apostasy came came out full force roughly in 2008 and she has confessed to it over the last couple of years but just over the last

week or so katie perry has admitted that she has been in therapy now for five years and suffers from depression and suicidal thoughts so So do lots of people. So do fucking tons of hetero people. So do a lot of performers. Right. That's one of those things that performers sort of suffer from a lot. Yeah, depression is not even remotely unusual. Yeah.

Depression and suicidal ideation at some point, it's more than 50% of people will suffer from some form of depression and suicidal ideations are not at all uncommon. Not at all uncommon. Yeah. And it's also a silly thing to say because it seems like he's saying the reason why it's brought on is because of her lack of godliness and her impure thoughts and all that stuff. And it's like, no. Tons of hetero Christians are fucking depressed.

Yeah. Tons of fucking, Christians are fucking depressed. Yeah. Tons of fucking, tons of atheists are depressed. Right. People are depressed. Nobody's immune. Yeah. Like everybody's brain is a fucking meat. Yeah.

Right. That's where like clinical depression, like actual clinical depression is a result of meat problems. Like it's just like your fucking kidneys don't work the same. Your fucking heart doesn't work the same. It's a meat. Your brain's just a meat. And sometimes the meat works weird.

That's all this is. That's all that's happening. The meat got weird. So you go treat the meat or beat the meat. That helps, depression. I don't know if it does. I don't think it does. I've been trying.

But so depressed. I get depressed like twice a day sometimes. Huh. That seems kind of ironic as well. You abandon the one who is life himself. When you abandon life, that's called death. That's fucking profound. Thank you.

Wow. Thanks for your fucking deepity dipshit. And she has embraced nihilistic form. I think she has walked over the line of despair. First, you begin with decadence. Then you move rather quickly into despair. Why not stay in decadence? That's way better.

Yeah, decadence does seem better. It's a lot of chocolate and decadence. Right? Yeah. You get like thick cake and ice cream. I want to hang out. Hot fudge. I'm right there.

Yeah, sounds delicious. This is where modern music has gone. Now, it took about 100 years to make it this far. You know, back in the 40s and 50s, there was a bit of decadence. There was these songs about... My, Bethy, you have some pantyhose on today that are mighty fine. You know, it's awful. This is that fucking it was better way back when bullshit. You know, it's so funny. This is that

fucking it was better way back when bullshit. You know, like... And it was always, like, people were always worried about dancing and singing. People have been worried about fucking dancing and singing since people fucking figured out how to dance and sing. All dancing, not all dancing, but much of dancing

is simulated sex. Like, it's a fucking courting ritual, right? We're not that much different than those goddamn birds, like those big fucking flighty-ass birds. They're just like, like, trying to get a mate. That's what that shit's for. Lazy, hazy, crazy days of summer in which Nat King Cole

would watch the girls go by. So there was a little bit of decadence in the 1950s, more so in the 1960s, and the decadence goes the 1950s, more so in the 1960s. And the decadence goes. Plenty in the roaring 20s. I just want to throw that out there. Also plenty in all the time throughout all of history.

I fucking hate you. Full fledged in the 70s and 80s. Well, by the time you get to the 1990s, the pop music that is almost entirely nihilistic in which there is almost no meaning, no purpose. In fact, the encouragement is to young people not to embrace any kind of meaning or purpose at all. And that was the worldview of Nirvana. And Kurt Cobain, of course, the leader of that band, committed suicide in the early 1990s. What does that have to do with anything? I'm struggling desperately to figure it.

There's a guy fucking from Lincoln Park killed himself today. Yeah, well, he was probably an atheist. And the guy last year, that Chris Cornell guy, didn't he kill himself last year? Also a lesbian. He was probably a lesbian. All lesbians, Cecil. All those men were lesbians.

Now, that worldview has become more prevalent as the years go by of course singers will begin with the decadence but eventually work their way over towards uh the the lyrics of despair and that's what you see in katie perry's most recent album in her new album i've listened to it hundreds and hundreds of times i'm explicating it like fucking 19th century poetry. What the fuck? This is a dude obsessed with Katie. This is a guy, another guy who's obsessed with somebody. Witness, she brings out a litany of her psychological problems and pleads with somebody to help her to get through. Yeah, fucking it's crazy that a singer is singing about themself. Yeah, no shit, right?

I was going to say the same thing. It's like, what else do fucking singer songwriters do? Yeah. That's what you fucking do. Yeah fucking taylor swift wrote about her boyfriends just fucking poets write about themselves all the time sure right yeah fucking that's like like unless you're like doing some fucking epic story poem like that's like it's no fucking surprise like that's what art is art is an expression of the interior self yeah her psychologically tortured life she's caught in a cage, a complex

cage. Am I a car on fire? Will I be devoured? And so forth. She has come to the point where she's not kissing girls anymore. She's about to commit suicide. She's kissing cars that are on fire. It's crazy. It's crazy. She's got her own TLC special. There she is. She's eating a pillow on the side

and then she kisses a car. I like to make love to burning automobiles. There was a guy who bought, supposedly, I don't know how true any of that stuff is. I don't know either. Was it strange sex or something? It was strange addictions or something. My strange addiction? Yeah, my strange addiction I thought was

the people who ate non-food food. Am I wrong? No, there was a bunch of other stuff though too. Oh, that was I Eat Weird Shit, I think. I don't remember what the title is. I don't know what the title of that is. Yeah, the guy who wanted to fuck the car. My Strange Addiction, I think, is the guy who... That's what it was?

Yeah, I think so. Oh, okay. I was mixed up. The guy was addicted to his car or in love with his car or something. Yeah, and he would get down on the... He would caress it and climb on it and lay the hump on it. I know. It's so weird.

This was not in the user agreement. It wasn't even a nice car. That's the thing, too. It was like a fucking Cavalier or something. It's just a regular boring car. It's just some boring car. I understand. Okay, you got a fucking Bugatti.

Okay, yeah, you want to lay on that car and turn it on and make it go purr and then jiggle your balls or whatever. That's fine. But it's just a fight. It's like a fucking, it's like a 21-year-old Jeep. It's just like, who cares? You know, if somebody had tied a scarf around it, maybe it would be a different story, Tom.

You want answers? I think I'm entitled. You want answers? I want the truth. You can't handle the truth. Oh, my fucking God. All right. This story is from the Hill.

GOP representative asked NASA panel if there were ancient civilizations on Mars. That's not actually the whole thing. No. Because he doesn't just ask the question. Right. He then doubles down on it with the NASA guy. He's like, no, no, no. So I think we can listen to this, Cecil.

That's what he said. The NASA guy is just like, he's embarrassed for him. The NASA guy is embarrassed for him. I think if you don't cringe when you listen to this, then something is clearly wrong. You're either Alex Jones or you're this guy, right? Right. So here we go. This is this guy talking. He's a representative Dana Rohrabacher. But one last thought, I would hope that again, I think the moon is close by and whatever we can actually get a benefit out of going back there, we should

before you take the next step. What the fuck does that even mean? The moon is close by. It's not on the fucking way anywhere. Still, you're like, oh, man, what I really needed was Doritos.

I know. Swing by the moon. See if we can get a moon rock. What would it get out of going to the moon? I don't know. What does the moon have? We've been there. We walked around.

It was dusty. It's moony. That's it. There's nothing there. We got moonon.org. Moonon.org. What the fuck? It's time to go.

Before you take the next step, however, the most important thing was if Mars... Can I ask permission for one minute for this question? And that is, you have indicated that Mars... Okay, here it comes, guys. It's going to be amazing. Fasten your fucking seatbelt. It's going to be amazing. Because this fucking giant of intellect is going ask the best a duly elected representative

ours had a was totally different thousands of years ago yeah everything was hold on everything was different if you go back in time it's not like there's anything that was just like oh it's pretty much the same thing if you go back far enough in time everything was different you realize you said thousands though right yeah i know i know thousands thousands of years ago it was the same yeah yeah is it possible that there was a civilization on mars thousands of years ago that kid behind him is like did you believe he said can you believe this guy's my uncle so the evidence is that Mars was different

billions of years ago. Okay. The guy's like, okay, let me cover for you here. Right. It's not thousands. Let me help. It's billions.

Yeah. They're like each other in that they're numbers. With zeros. With zeros on them. One has more. Thousands of years ago. Well, yes.

And there would be, there is no evidence that I'm aware of. Would you rule that out? That's the best part. Would you rule it out? There's no evidence. Would you rule it out?

He's telling you no. He's being nice about it. I wouldn't rule it out. Tom, come on. We can't rule it out Tom come on we can't rule it out we haven't been to Mars it's true we don't know we've only landed little drivey cars

and the thing is that maybe under layers of dirt is the skyscrapers of Mars and we just don't we haven't seen them yet maybe we can't rule it out we can't so we should definitely speculate wildly about things we have no evidence for and then take the lack of evidence as the possibility of yeah maybe there's flying sharks that used to live on mars billions of years ago so so if we

have a lack of evidence and then we speculate on the possibility of it happening. Is that how heaven works? That's why it's real. That's how you know heaven's real. Some people, well, anyway. I would say that is extremely unlikely. He's trying not to laugh. He's trying so hard not to laugh right now. He's trying to be nice. This guy's just like, he's looking

at the camera like, do you believe this shit? You know what? I'm looking at this guy and it says doctor in front of his name. And you know, he's just like, he's looking at the camera like, do you believe this shit? You know what? I'm looking at this guy and it says doctor in front of his name. And you know, he's just like, fuck. Yeah. Fucking this is home and use my day. His name's Dr. Farley and he'd rather be in a van down by the river, right? Okay. Well,

thank you all. Thank you, Mr. Brothers. Thanks for the good job you're doing. God bless. Thanks for the good job. I don't understand what you do. The moon's close by. You should swing over there. You could go to the moon just on the way. Pick up a pack of smokes or something. I don't know. Go to the moon.

The moon. Focus on the moon. The only thing that's on the moon is shit we left there last time. Yeah, the only thing on the moon is like a reflector that we sometimes bounce a laser off of to show how far away the moon is. It's some shit we litter. And that we were there.

It's our litter, our garbage. We left our moon trash. There's a flag up there. So we want to thank all our patrons, but of course we want to thank our most recent patrons, Louise, De patrons, Louise, Deborah,

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We are. We wound up putting together the top 10 videos that people had sent us for their childhood commercials. And we put together this top 10 list. We're going to put it on this week's show notes, 370. Some of these commercials are just laugh out loud funny. The fucking Texas law hawk is outstanding.

Well, he's got a flamethrower. Oh my God. There's another one with a woman who just she's from like mississippi she's like she like talks for a minute and i don't understand anything and then she's like tell about a catfish and the catfish is like it's a fucking amazing then there's like a bunch of others in the guy selling the fucking uh the trailers and he's just like i'll give a fuck if you buy one of these that one's awesome one time my wife's boyfriend beat me in the face with a fence post. Another one is this car salesman who was a gynecologist in Cuba.

That's fucking amazing. It's so funny. He snaps his gloves. He's fucking amazing. So there's some really great. Go through 370. We're going gonna post each one of these um some really funny stuff we actually sent out about five shirts to people

on twitter that we said these are just amazing so thanks for everybody who sent them in we watched them all i tried to comment on everyone that came in but uh they really turned out good we also have our finalists for the call to prayer. Each one of these people will be getting shirts. The fifth place one was the rooster call to prayer. The tied for third place are Steve Miller and Flash Gordon. Then the second place one was the yodeler. And then finally, the first place one, of course, was the Klingon, right?

Which was amazing. I'm going to put all those in our rotation so throughout the year you're going to be able to hear those I'm going to put those all in our rotation along with a few others that were really highly rated we're going to take them throw them into our call to prayer thing so we always have more and more of those like we say we're going to open it up back again in December I already set an alarm in my phone so I know this week that we're recording that this is when we're going to open it up back again in December. I already set an alarm in my phone, so I know this week that we're recording, that this is when we're going to start telling people to start sending them in.

We'll probably collect them for two weeks, play a bunch of them, and do the exact same thing again. We also want to mention, too, and this is our fault. We were on a show a while back. It's our fault we didn't mention it before. We were on a show with Eli called Left at the Valley. Now, Left at the Valley, we're going to put a link to it on this week's show notes. The reason why we had initially, the night we recorded with them, this was several weeks ago,

we were on this show and we wound up recording with them. But what happened was is we didn't, we weren't given like a timeframe in which the show was going to come out. So I didn't want to tell people ahead of time that we were going to be on this show. Instead, I wanted to make sure that the show was already out so I could direct you to it. And when that happened,

it was like three weeks ago or something like that. I just forgot in the successive weeks and we went on vacation in that time. And so it threw everything off, but I wanted to mention they were nice enough to have us on. We had a great time on their show. So check out their show. We're going to put a link on this week's show notes to the episode. You can check out their show. It's on blog talk radio. So we want to talk about a little bit of email that we got. We got it from a bunch of people. They all sent in this sort of Alex Jones video where some guy sings what Alex Jones says,

like Bon Iver. It's, and this is amazing. It's fucking amazing. So fun. We're going to put a link on this week's show notes to this. If I can find it online, somebody sent it as a video.

I don't know. Maybe I can load this video. Somebody sent it as a downloadable video I'll either do that or I'll send a YouTube of it or a Facebook post or something but I'm going to try to find it and post it on this week's show notes it's really fucking funny and it's really well done and it's hilarious

we sing about the pot belly goblins fucking amazeballs we got a message from David and David sent in an article and we're going to put this on this week's show notes this article is Prince Philip Gaffs if you remember last week we had Marsh on

and Marsh was talking about Prince Philip saying like they smell different or whatever and can I touch their hair there's a bunch of things in here that this guy is just he's just culturally the least sensitive guy but he also he looks like fish from

Barney Miller after he's been dead for 30 years. You know what he looks like? Honestly, to me, he looks like Count Olaf from the Lemony Snicket series of Unfortunate Events movie. Yeah, okay, sure. I did see that. Did you really? I did see Lemony Snicket. Yeah, I saw that.

Yeah. Somebody had really highly suggested it. And I thought it was more like a Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I was bored. Oh my God. Yeah. I can't imagine it would be your kind of movie. I was bored.

But it looks like Jim Carrey's character, who is designed specifically to look evil and old and shitty. He looks just like that. Yeah, yeah. He's a caricature villain. We got a message from, this is from Horatio. And he says, after the news about the woman

and the baby suicide attack, the suicide attack, I was wondering, do suicide women get 72 virgin men in the afterlife? How disappointing is that? 72 guys that pop in 40 seconds. The guys that are just like,

does it feel like a bag of sand? And then the other question is, and what about the baby? And he says, is he getting his 72 virgins or she? That would be weird. Yeah, it would be weird, Horatio. I'm not sure about the baby. Maybe the baby gets like, I don't know.

72 binkies? Like 72 castle gray skulls or something. I don't know. We got a message from Kippies. And Kippies sent in this video. It's like a GIF of a Neapolitan bomb. B-O-M-B-E which is

Neapolitan brownie bomb and it's basically a bunch of ice cream inside in layers in Neapolitan with a brownie layer on the top and the bottom why wouldn't you just fucking get a brownie

and then scoop a fucking piece of fucking Neapolitan on it. Like this seems like so much fucking work. You watch this fucking thing, what they do. And I'm going to, I'm not going to post this, but what they do is they take, they fucking bake a thing of brownies, right? And then they line a fucking bowl with the brownies. Then they pour in strawberry ice cream and spread it all around, freeze it.

That clearly has to take some time. Take it out of the fucking out of the fridge. Then put in vanilla icing in this in another area, like another like hollowed out area. Freeze it again. Then put in chocolate. Freeze it again. And then put a lower brownie layer on the bottom. Flip the fucking thing over and dust cocoa on it.

That takes fucking... Are you kidding me? It's an all-day event. Are you kidding me? You spent all day for something that's going to taste exactly like taking a brownie and putting ice cream on it. Neapolitan ice cream at that. Right.

Here's what you do. You take that bomb and then you throw it away. You throw it in the garbage. It's a bomb for sure. That's a funny video. You break that thing out and you're like, it's sweaty from having fucking spent all day working on it. Could you imagine if you were at somebody's party and they're like,

they just made like a beautiful, like, fucking, like a beef Wellington or something. They spent a whole day on it. I made the puff pastry myself. And then you show up and there's like these beautiful daffodil potatoes and everything else. And they're whole day on it. I made the puff pastry myself. And then you show up and there's like these beautiful daffodil potatoes and everything else. And then they're like, oh, and I made this other garbage.

I'm fucking knocking off the table out of the ground. And then I kill them. That's what I would do. You're the worst house guest ever. I go through more hosts. That's why I never invite you over for dinner. I don't blame you.

Fucking cold cuts. That's all you get. I didn't make them. I don't care if you like them. Here's your new Paul to make screen. I'll burn your house down. Mother. Such an irrational response.

I thought you were cool. All right. So this is, I love this. Dalton sent us a limerick. There once was a man named Dave who kept a dead whore in a cave. And though he had to admit that she smelled like shit, but think of the money he'd save.

So gross. I just love me a good limerick though. I'm not going to lie. I love me a good limerick. So we got a message. This is from Carrie and Carrie said, uh, she,

she had two comments about last episode. Um, first is she was just as floored about the health of the childcare. She said, if there was childcare and I could take my kid and go hang out with adults, holy shit, that'd be amazing. That's we were blown away.

That's not a care at QED. Crazy. Just crazy. It's worth buying an overseas ticket to go to QED. It would be cheaper to buy your kid a ticket to fly to fucking Manchester than it is to get them fucking child care for the weekend. Exactly.

That's not even that untrue. You're right. It's not even that untrue. A three-day weekend, you're dropping $300, $400. And you could just, I mean, if your kid's like 12 or 13, they could sit on your lap the whole way. Do people look at you weird? No, but, you know, it's a family affair. But you know what?

What you do when they look at you weird is just lock eyes. Don't turn away. Don't turn away. Just be like that, right? Yeah. I bet it'll get weirder for you before it gets weird for me. Just be like that, right? Yeah.

I bet it'll get weirder for you before it gets weird for me. And then secondarily, Carrie says, so if religion is a genetic factor and there's no way to control it, wouldn't it become society's responsibility to make the person who is indoctrinated into the most benign, peace-loving religion as possible. I think that's a really interesting way and interesting thought because last week a listener had said, what do you guys think if religion wasn't controllable? If it was a genetic disposition, how would you guys feel about it? And we both had to admit that we would feel very differently about religion.

You have to grant that. But at the same time, you would say, let's try to make sure that that religion is as benevolent as it possibly can be. Because, you know, malevolent religions help no one.

You know what I mean? The only problem is that society could never agree on which was the religion of peace. We really are struggling with that already. on which was the religion of peace right yeah we would we really wouldn't we really are struggling with that already it's like really so we got a bunch of images from aaron and we can't post all these images but aaron we're gonna post the first one because it's so great funny but it's such a bad joke it's just genuinely laughing though a bad joke but it's so funny it's like it's like's like if Garrison Keillor had a, had a dirty streak, that would be a joke. This would be the joke.

But I, I got to tell you, Aaron, I laughed. It was one of those things where I laughed and like a couple of minutes later, I was like, it just grabbed me again. It's a Trump picture. Check it out. It's on this week's show notes, 370. So we want to thank George Hab from the Geologic podcast.

What a great guy. Just genuine, generous with his time. A funny guy, an insightful guy. We had him on for a long time to talk about Trump this time, but an insightful guy, a great skeptic, a great member of the community, and somebody who you should listen to his show. So check it out. It'll be on this week's show notes, 370.

You can check out all links to his stuff. Also a very good musician. So check out his music too. A really excellent musician. He has a great band and he also does solo stuff. Check it out. All that stuff will be on this week's show notes. That's going to wrap it up for this week. We're going to leave you like we always do with the Skeptic's Creed. Credulity is not a virtue. It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue, hypno Babylon bullshit. It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue, hypno-Babylon bullshit. Couched in scientician, double bubble, toil and trouble, pseudo-quasi-alternative, acupunctuating, pressurized,

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