Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 378: Family Mode

Episode Date: September 18, 2017

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of Cognitive Dissonance is brought to you by our patrons. You fucking rock. Hey guys, this is Emma from Colorado. So, I'm an RPCB, a Returned Peace Corps Volunteer from Ghana. And there are a couple things on my mind when I was listening to that segment. So, first off, the Peace Corps is paid for by the government. So, if you're upset about these DACA kids supposing all of your taxes for whatever it is you think they're nefariously using it for you probably shouldn't then shouldn't then send them off to another country in the Peace Corps because you know taxpayers pay for that and Congress approves it so one that's not how money works two Peace Corps service like you guys said as a
Starting point is 00:00:43 volunteer you can't force people to join it just because you don't like them. And there isn't Peace Corps in every single country because countries, believe it or not, can actually decide not to have the Peace Corps in it. Some countries are a little too dangerous for the Peace Corps, and we would rather not send our kiddos off and pay for it with tax dollars if we think they're going to get in trouble. pay for it with tax dollars if they think they're going to get in trouble. Third, if anybody deserves to go, you know, for service and talk about how great America is and why, it's probably all these MAGA idiots. They can all go, I don't know, earn their citizenship, learn about voting and how it works in other countries, maybe serve somebody else for a while other than themselves in the mirror. It's not like missionary work. It's insulting that they would think that. It's insulting to DACA kids to say that they're not citizens in their own right and that they should earn it in a way that American citizens don't
Starting point is 00:01:33 have to. So, I mean, those are a few of my thoughts other than the fact that this guy's a fucking moron and doesn't understand how the Peace Corps actually works. Maybe he should serve. Thanks, guys. Keep up the good work. Hey, guys. This is Doc Cullen from South Carolina. I was listening to you guys talk about the guy who got mad for you referring to Iowans as corn goblins. I just do want to remind you,
Starting point is 00:01:58 you need to be careful because the corn goblins are easily scared, but they will be back and with greater numbers of insects. All right, guys. Anyways, glory hole, motherfuckers. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason.
Starting point is 00:02:55 recording live from glory hole studios in chicago this is cognitive dissonance every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way we bring motherfucker i was just about to say oh we're not gonna balance anything or juggle some fucking flaming torches over there what you just guys a worse sound the slurping of tea oh my god can't you just put your nails on a chalkboard or something can you like snork your snot back up in your nose have you ever gone to like a good ramen place and there's that all that slurping sound in there i went to a good ramen place and i as all people do stuck ice picks in my ears and went deaf for the day because that's the best way to enjoy ramen slurp like crazy i love i i only went to that ramen place i've only ever had real ramen that one time really that's it oh god yeah yeah we ordered it here to the studio and it wasn't it wasn't very
Starting point is 00:03:41 good so i i discount that event yeah as having occurred. Delivery ramen is not the same. It's not a thing. We've been critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence. Ramen. I kind of want some ramen. I'm really full, but I would eat some ramen with that smoked duck egg. Yeah, it's good stuff. Holy shit, that was
Starting point is 00:04:00 good. I mean, that's level 11. 20 topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's level 11. 20 topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there is no welcome mat. This is episode 378. 78.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Cognitive dissonance. And we are joined this episode by Cecil. Hey, buddy. From the Cognitive Dissonance podcast. And also Citation Needed. And Citation Needed. I don't, don't let me. You're like a fifth of that.
Starting point is 00:04:28 You're like 20%, but you do 70% of the work. We need to elect people to office who are willing to acknowledge God. Amen. Because if they're secular going in, they're not going to protect your liberties. Let's talk about our first story before I get too much trouble. This is from Right Wing Watch. Speaking of slavery. This is the best.
Starting point is 00:04:49 This is fucking genuinely the best. David Barton. White people don't get enough credit for ending slavery. Also, starting slavery. And then enforcing it and perpetuating it and being the recipients of its advantages.
Starting point is 00:05:07 God, it's so amazing. Oh, for fuck's sake. Here's David. David, by the way, if you don't know who David Barton is, he's the guy who makes up everything. He's a failed historian. No, he's an amazing storyteller. That's what he is. But none of his stories are true.
Starting point is 00:05:22 So he's C.J. Worleyman? No, he didn't steal the story. Oh, he's Jonah Lehrer. There's no other nation in the world where whites fought whites to free blacks. Hold on. There's a whole bunch of whites that own blacks.
Starting point is 00:05:40 So, I don't know. Maybe, you know, like we're saying one for us, but like negative 100 oh my god this is the footing we're gonna start off on this is the hill he wants to die on right now yeah right just so you know to free blacks well why weren't the blacks free oh i don't know because a bunch of whites owned them yeah You got to have that part in there. We're going to free the blacks as if the blacks were just like, I don't know, I'm stuck
Starting point is 00:06:09 to this rock. If only a white person would come along and free me. What is like a sword and a stone? It's just like a black dude. I'm stuck in a cotton gin. Jesus. I wish I could get out of here. I just keep doing this work over and over and over for no reason.
Starting point is 00:06:28 No pay, no nothing. Anyone needs to be able to whip myself and stick a dog on me. Here's the thing. Let's say they were taking advantage of somebody who's just doing the work just because that's their natural habitat of doing that work, and they were just taking advantage of it. Even that's monstrous, right? Even that's their natural habitat of doing that work and they were just taking advantage of it. Even that's monstrous. Even that's monstrous.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Even if they weren't systematically beating them and forcing them to mate and separating families and not letting them be educated and all the horrible shit that goes on with slavery that went on in this country. Even without all that.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Even if that even didn't exist, just profiting off of someone else's labor. Profiting off of when they donated labor. Donated labor. They're just donating their time. It was like a weekend. They're just volunteers for my show.
Starting point is 00:07:23 And killed over a half million wives to free blacks that's a lot of people fighting how many blacks do they kill to enslave blacks here's the thing that barton's saying though white lives matter this is literally his two senses in it's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. It's so funny. It's like he plays this mental game of the floor is lava. Because you can't look back.
Starting point is 00:07:54 He just jumps right into the middle of the point because you're like, oh, no. If you even got there from any logical conclusion, you would start with, so we owned a bunch of people. Well, that was wrong. Yeah. So we had to stop that. We fought about it. Yeah. And some people,
Starting point is 00:08:10 monsters, didn't want to. And so we had to kill them to stop it. The recipients of slavery's monstrous, monstrous advantages were like,
Starting point is 00:08:20 no, I totes like owning people. It makes the work I don't have to do easier. It's so funny. You're just like, no, no, I totes like owning people. It makes the work I don't have to do easier. You're just like, are you serious? Did you not even think about this for a second? Hey, what's the minimum wage on your farm? False.
Starting point is 00:08:40 You've also got the situation where that the 13th,th, and 15th amendments, they're voted for. They're all civil rights amendments. But guess what? The only guys who could vote back then are white guys. Well, that was the problem! What's the issue? Can you hear you? What is happening?
Starting point is 00:08:54 Can you hear you? What are you saying? Why were they the only people that could vote? Because they had disenfranchised, the white people had disenfranchised from power all other people. Are you serious? Out loud. He's doing this out loud. Does he realize he's on video or audio? He's being recorded.
Starting point is 00:09:15 That's crazy. Yeah, so the white people had to vote this in. Yeah. Is he doing like the metaphysics of morals thing? Where he's like, it wasn't in their best interest. So therefore it was moral. Is that what he's trying to do in some ways? I'm not even kidding around here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Yeah. I think, I think he might be right. He's he's, I think is actually that's true. I, so I read through this. I think that the thrust of his argument is that white people worked against their best interests by freeing black people. But it's like... Oh, no, he's wrong.
Starting point is 00:09:48 But like fucking just basic empathy. Like, yeah, you can work against your own best interest, but you fucking, if your gut's deep in another human being, killing them because it's in your best interest to kill them. Because that kind of mentality, right? It would be like, well, if we were that morally bankrupt, then we would turn our kids back into child workers, right? We would have child soldiers. We would behave – if we behaved in a perfectly utilitarian way with human life, we would be so much more ruthless with human life, right? Just vastly, horrifyingly much more ruthless with human life. Sure. We would be so much more ruthless with human life. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Just vastly horrifyingly much more ruthless with human life. But we don't do that because we have to recognize at some point, like, wait a minute, I'm human. Yeah. And I don't want to be treated like the cog in a fucking, like a disposable cog in a horrifying machine.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Yeah. I don't want someone else to profit off my labor and I get nothing. Right. Nobody wants that. It's like this show that happens every week, actually. Like a student loan. You've got two-thirds of the whites in Congress and
Starting point is 00:10:53 the majority of the whites in three-fourths of the states have said, you know what? We white guys want to tie our hands and make sure the blacks have the same. See? We want to tie our hands. We want to limit our ability to abuse other people. Aren't we have the same. See? We want to tie our hands. We want to limit our ability to abuse other people. Aren't we amazing? Don't you want to just
Starting point is 00:11:09 fucking put your fucking mouth around the fucking head of my cock and give me a fucking great big... You know what? I'll tell you what. Let me kick my legs back and you can fucking rim me. That's how much... I want to fucking three quarters your tongue up my ass.
Starting point is 00:11:26 What I was hoping for is for you to put a big heart on this Facebook status for me. I made this Facebook status where I talk about how much I've sacrificed. I love it. I love it if you put a big heart there. Every heart just makes me harder and harder. Also stick your tongue up my ass. So does every tongue up my ass. Same rights that we do.
Starting point is 00:11:46 It's why we're doing it. You never hear anything about that. That's because the blacks couldn't do it. There's nobody else. They're literally slaves. Like they're literally slaves. There's nobody else. It's not like the Native Americans
Starting point is 00:12:01 rose up and did it. Hey, you know, men gave women the right to vote. They voted on it. You know, no women voted on it. Yeah, they couldn't. That's because, okay, it's an order of operations problem, right? It's just you couldn't before you could.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Then they decide to let you. And the fact that they could let you was kind of the problem in the first place. You don't understand how this works. That's this guy's problem. He's always dividing by zero. You hear that whites are all racist. No, no, no. Nobody says whites are all racist. Yeah, I'm white. That's a stupid thing to say.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I'm only 30% racist. It's the part of me that wants to own other human beings. All these whites who fought and gave their lives so that blacks would not be slaves. You have all these whites who fought and gave their lives so that blacks would not be slaves. You have all these whites who tied their own... Who fucking tied up the black people?
Starting point is 00:12:51 Who fucking had them fucking caged up? Isn't this funny, though? Because this embedded here is the idea that the Civil War, which we know is true, is the idea that the Civil War was a war about slavery. But there is that other message that's constantly being preached that the Civil War was not about slavery.
Starting point is 00:13:08 It's about state's rights. And a lot of these Republicans love that story, right? So he's turning that on its head right now. He's acknowledging that these people fought and died to end slavery, which means the war was about slavery. But I bet the same guy in his next breath, if given the opportunity, would tell you that that's a states' rights war. Where would we be without all the white martyrs, though?
Starting point is 00:13:30 If there weren't all these white martyrs, oh, then they wouldn't have been enslaved. Okay, no, it's back to the beginning of the argument. Maybe the black people should have done this for themselves. Maybe they should have started their own civil war. Do you guys have bootstraps? I mean, come on. We don't have shoes. People won't let us have
Starting point is 00:13:46 shoes. On hands politically to make sure that we had equal rights in the Constitution, etc. So there are so many good stories we just don't get. And what we get today is a heavy dose of Southern black history, but we get nothing of middle colony or Northern history. And that's the more wholesome
Starting point is 00:14:01 and the more uplifting side of it. What does that even mean? Is he saying like up in the North, we don't talk about in the North where black people are owned less obviously because there's still some serious problems in the North. No, I think what he's saying is that they're telling us, like you said, the narrative of the lost cause. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Check out Citation Needed if you want to find out about that. There's a great episode about that. But the lost cause of the Confederacy is what he's talking about. That's the kind of history that he's saying. But they're not telling this story of the white martyr, which is what the story that he's telling. The white martyr. That's what I think. I know. The white martyr to free the black.
Starting point is 00:14:39 To free the black. To magnanimously. Magnanimous white martyr. Free black people from the tyranny of other white people. If I were to take a cup and I were to spit it into a cup and I were to hand it to this pretty young lady right here, what's your name? Tierra. Tierra. Tierra's going to take it.
Starting point is 00:14:51 She's going to spit it. She's going to pass it around the room and everybody's going to take a chance spitting it. We're going to hand it to this young lady back here. What's your name? Lizzie. Lizzie's going to drink out of that cup. What would you all think about that? Pretty disgusting, right?
Starting point is 00:15:03 You wouldn't do it. Because you're exchanging bodily fluids. And that's what you do in sexual activity. You exchange bodily fluids. So you see how rampant it can go in terms of your sexual activity. It starts from the Washington Post. Abstinence-only education doesn't work. And we're still funding it.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And the sub-headline, I got to say, I disagree with it. It says, in theory, it's fine. In practice, it usually fails. I actually disagree with it. It says in theory, it's fine. In practice, it usually fails. I actually disagree with that just completely. In theory, it's fucking stupid. Yeah. And in practice, it always fails. Well, I think what he's trying to say is because he mentions this in the article is that, look,
Starting point is 00:15:38 when kids get real education, when they get real sex education, they actually tend to be abstinent a lot more than if they get abstinence only education. And so he's saying abstinence only is a good way to not get pregnant, not get an STD, not get any of those things. Abstinence for a huge, like an abstinence, a person choosing abstinence.
Starting point is 00:16:01 That's a great way to prevent all those things. However, if you are not, if you, if you don't have the understanding to be abstinent, if you don't think about it ahead of time, if you just, you just told, just put that thing away, then it's a terrible practice. And the thing is like, we know that like, it's so funny. Cause it's, it's like study after study after study comes out. And in areas where abstinence-only education is the primary focus of sex education, STDs go up. Teen pregnancy goes up.
Starting point is 00:16:32 It has a reverse effect on exactly what it is that the abstinence-only education is trying to control for. And it does it every time. And it's obvious. And we know it. And we're still like, well, we feel weird about our kids fucking. Yeah. Here's the thing. Everybody feels weird thinking about other people fucking.
Starting point is 00:16:50 Yeah. You only want to think about attractive people. Here's the only people you want to think about fucking. Attractive people you don't know. Yeah. That's who you want to think about fucking. Exactly. You don't want to think about attractive people you do know.
Starting point is 00:17:01 That's fucking weird. Like, Jim? Like, no, that's weird, right? That's just like, what? No. It's attractive people you don't know's fucking weird like jim like no that's weird right that's just like yeah what no it's attractive people you don't know that's called porn yeah everyone likes that even ted cruz yeah it's universally universally universally loved he hearts that on twitter and we don't want to think about our relatives fucking we don't want to think about our kids fucking we don't think about our parents fucking but guess what they're all fucking they're all fucking at some point sure and. And they need to do it. They need to fuck safe.
Starting point is 00:17:28 It's just about fucking safe. I think that there is a real problem with religious people talking about sex. I think that they don't ever want to talk about it. They don't ever want to confront it. They don't ever want to think about it. There's a there's a big shame that comes with sex. And these people that grow up in religious households that have religious parents, they have a person in their life, an authority figure who's not willing to tell them about one of the most important things that happens in your life. Sex is one of the most important things that happens in your life because it can reproduce another you. It can make another fucking human, something you have to take care of. And so the problem is, is that these people are not giving you the knowledge you need
Starting point is 00:18:15 and they let the school system do it. But when they come home from school and they're churchgoers and the kid's like, well, daddy, I learned to put my penis in a vagina today. They're like, oh my God, I can't believe this. You know, I can't believe what you're doing. And then they stop the school from doing it. And the school, you know, in a community feels that pressure, doesn't want to continue with it. We see all across the country, there's different places where they have abstinence only education. And he's saying, look, abstinence is fine. But once people know about it, they
Starting point is 00:18:46 engage in abstinence way more often than if they just get told, put it away. The other thing is that, and I've been thinking about this because I've got a son who's 10 turning 11. He's got a cell phone, right? Sex education is more important now than it was when we were growing up. When we were growing up Our access to sexual content Our access to sexual content Was different than children's access to sexual content Our kids have access To explicit sexual content
Starting point is 00:19:17 At a way earlier age Way more explicit content And way more varsity level shit Like an A I remember when I was a kid, I found a piece of pornography that was like, seriously, like it was torn from a
Starting point is 00:19:32 magazine. It was a windblown picture of a fucking naked woman with her legs spread. It was fucking from like the early 80s, right? You couldn't even see anything. It was so fucking hairy down there. It was either a bush or a Harlem blow trotter. She had a gremlin down there. It was a gremlin's ad. She put water on it and it gets bigger.
Starting point is 00:19:48 You just pour the water on it. It doesn't multiply if you feed it. I couldn't feed it. Feed it, right? It's in a moose bush, my dear. Hold on. We'll get the palate cleanser before the black guy gets in here. That thing became my most prized possession until my folks.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Sure. Right. But now my brothers, my brothers had a box of porn that they found. It was a box. It was a box of magazines. Yeah. And I remember seeing those magazines and being like,
Starting point is 00:20:16 I feel funny down there. Like, you know, cause you see these magazines, like, Holy cow, look at that. That's a boobie.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Right. I seen the boobie. It was amazing. It was, it was life changing. It was lifeie. I seen the boobie. It was amazing. It was life-changing. It was life-changing. I remember the same thing. It is literally revelatory. You're like, what?
Starting point is 00:20:32 That's what all that looks like? That's amazing. Those first few images, they'll be the last thing you think when you die. If you don't address it, if you don't recognize, kids are going to see it. Kids are going to have access to it. They're going to show it to each other. They're going to watch videos, you know, and they're going to show those
Starting point is 00:20:47 videos to each other, and they're going to have their first fucking girlfriend. They're going to be 12 or 13 years old, and they're going to be like, yeah, I don't know, like, we went out on two dates, and then I covered her in baby oil and fucked her in the ass. Like, it's what you do, you know? I choke fucked her. Yeah, exactly, right? Well, not when you're 12. That's impossible. That's a 13th. Literally
Starting point is 00:21:03 impossible. Literally impossible. I choked her and fucked her Not when you're 12. There's an impossible 13. Literally impossible. Literally impossible. I choked her and fucked her. That you could do. Your hands are too small at that age. There's some big kids out there. You know, like, are you going to put your forearm?
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah, I know. Yeah. Naked choke. But like you've got, it's so funny that like, we're still having this conversation in a world where these conversations are more important, where the age that they need to happen is way earlier, where kids need to learn how to navigate a whole series of sexual issues. See, so we didn't have to navigate. You know, my experience with sex, like we got to ease into these sort of the idea of different kinds of sex and sexuality.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Sure. As you were sort of the idea of different kinds of sex and sexuality as you were sort of exposed. But like now kids are like the most advanced, craziest shit nobody does. Kids are seeing it when they're 10. They're seeing that shit. They're seeing shit that's fucking extra double plus varsity level shit when they're 10. Sure. And if they don't have the tools to navigate that, if they're,
Starting point is 00:22:05 what they're told is like, well, just don't have sex. And you're like, well, that doesn't seem, my phone tells me, Siri says that's not how the world works.
Starting point is 00:22:13 Yeah. And, and Siri says, give it to me, baby. The thing is, is that they're going to have this, they're going to have this image
Starting point is 00:22:20 and it's more absurd today to give them this thing, the internet, to say, here's the internet, here's all its give them this thing, the internet to say, here's the internet, here's all its wonders. Here's all the wonders of sex, which is on the internet. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Don't do any of it. That's, that's so much more absurd than when we were young. Yeah. Right. It's so much more absurd because you know, this person I think is right. The moment you start explaining the consequences of sex,
Starting point is 00:22:43 the moment you start explaining what, you sex the moment you start explaining what you know what sex means to people not just being objects because what you're describing this you know this this video is an object it is it's objectifying sex it has nothing to do with the feelings of these people on how much they feel for each other to have sex together right it doesn't there's no feeling i don get that. There's no emoticon that's going to make that feel different. Where's the afterglow emoticon? Exactly. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:10 So it's not explaining the consequences of sex. It's just showing you the raw sex. Right. What you need now more than ever is an explanation of the, you know, all the emotional attachments. Exactly. Like they need to learn how to navigate all these different things way earlier.
Starting point is 00:23:27 This head in your sand shit? Yeah. Head in your sand? Is it my sand? Whose head? Well, it depends on what color the bush is, though. Again, I've seen this on the internet. If it's sandy colored, the head in the sand makes sense.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Because there's nothing but death and refuse and the rectum. No life can come out of the rectum. The rectum is designed to get rid of death and refuse and direct them that no life can come out of the rectum. The rectum is designed to get rid of death and waste. It's designed for that one purpose. And the sodomites are cheering on and praising the rectum. This story is from the raw story. I don't know what that first word is because they bleep out the A. I think it's an A.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I don't know what letter is. Anyway, I'm going to take a guess. A little shot shot in there faggots will burn in hell i thought it was fogots it could have been fogots figgets fogots well they're gonna burn in hell that's all we know bible thumping west virginia deputy invested for bullying gay teen on school bus so this is kind of fucked up i want to read what this guy actually said. So kid gets on the bus, right? Kid gets on the bus and he sits down. Hold on a second. Let's set the stage, though, because it is according to a Facebook post by Nelson County Democratic Organization. They have the people that are involved in this on the other side have not made a statement yet. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:44 So this is an allegation from a Facebook post. That's true. So, and I also want to point out that the city sheriff's deputy was in uniform when he made these comments. And that matters. Because when you're wearing your uniform, you're a representative, right? That's
Starting point is 00:24:59 very clear. So this kid gets on the bus and he sits down. And this is what was said. Supposedly no faggot activity will be permitted on this bus. In my Bible, it states that faggots will burn in hell and I will not condone it. And I have to say like, I appreciate that he will not condone that faggots will burn in hell.
Starting point is 00:25:25 He said it explicitly what he said. Just say that faggots will in my Bible faggot says faggots will burn in hell. He said it. He just said it. That's explicitly what he said. He did just say that. Faggots will, in my Bible, faggots says faggots will burn in hell. I will not condone it. I will not condone it. I'm glad that he's condemning that horrifyingly bigoted statement.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Absolutely. I'm sympathetic. Right. I'm glad he's doing that in the position of his office. It's really kind of nice to see somebody stand up for something decent.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I'm just happy that the person doesn't know the English language. That's what I'm happy for. So this person unsuccessfully he ran for Clay County Sheriff last year unsuccessfully. He was named in a civil lawsuit eight years ago. A Clay County man accused this guy
Starting point is 00:26:00 of engaging in harassment in a harassment campaign after he asked the deputy to remove his boots when he came to pick up some items belonging to a mutual relative. Fuck you and your white carpet, this guy told in a federal suit.
Starting point is 00:26:13 The suit claims that this guy then beat the man with a flashlight. And he says the deputy unlawfully stopped him multiple times and physically assaulted him over a period of months.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Salt of the earth, this guy. What's crazy to me is with that history, he somehow passed the background check to drive a bus. I love the idea, too, that he's driving the bus dressed in his full cop uniform.
Starting point is 00:26:42 That'd be so weird if he showed up. Take your uniform to work day, right, that'd be so weird if you showed up. It's like take your uniform to work day, right? I mean, like, so weird. Like, when else does that happen? Where you just, like, wear the uniform from one job to the other job?
Starting point is 00:26:54 Especially if you work at two fast food places. I'm just thinking, like, you're, like, in your McDonald's thing at Burger King and they're just like, dude, we fucking told you about this, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:02 They keep coming and asking for the wrong sandwich. It just confuses the customers. The guy coming and asking you for the wrong sandwich. It just confuses the customers. The guy's like, I want a Big Mac. You're not at fucking McDonald's. Ready to stick it in the glory hole? Get links to their Facebook, Twitter, and if you still use it, Google Plus account at their website, dissonancepod.com. If you need to be all discreet about it, contact them by email at
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Starting point is 00:28:00 We want to send a big sloppy glory hole to all the patrons and people who rate us. You fucking rock. This story is also from Right Wing Watch. Benham Brothers claim God used hurricanes on 9-11 to tell us to repent for LGBTQ rights. Yeah. So here we go. Hurricanes on 9-11.
Starting point is 00:28:20 This is a mess. I fucking hate these two knuckleheads. One of the things that we heard. Are these the guys from HGTV? They are. I fucking hate these two knuckleheads. Are these the guys from HGTV? They are. Yeah, these two fucking knuckleheads. Chrome magnet looking ass motherfuckers. That one dude is fucking all brow. He looks straight Neanderthal.
Starting point is 00:28:35 If he had a fucking club in his hand and a fucking loincloth, he could not look more Neanderthal. He looks like if you painted part of him, his face could be a foot. One of the things that we heard a lot 16 years ago was rebuild, rebuild, rebuild. But the word we didn't hear was repent. Because it wouldn't have mattered.
Starting point is 00:28:57 It wouldn't have made sense. And it would have been insulting. And nobody was going to say repent. Because then that puts the blame on us for somebody else, someone else, some other religion's murderous actions. Because that puts that puts the you know, not only puts the the blame on us in some way. Right. Because now you're saying, oh, well, we we call we call that shit down on us. Right. We did the wrong things. We were godless or whatever. that shit down on us right we did the wrong things we were godless or whatever and then how does that work like god uses 19 people from another country that from another religion yeah
Starting point is 00:29:30 to fly over and they have to like have this whole logistical fucking plan and then all this simple god's god's mechanisms don't make any sense i mean especially if he's especially because they're saying that he has the power of hurricanes just put a hurricane in new york your god yeah you just knock the buildings down sure you don't like what makes me crazy is like they always have to assume some naturalistic mechanism right they so like god who is literally made of magic who created matter from nothing and light from nothing. God who, you know, who can summon magical volumes of rain from the sky that then disappear. And then like all this crazy fucking supernatural bullshit, but then they always have to have some weird and naturalistic mechanism that we have dozens of explanations for how they exist and where they're going to
Starting point is 00:30:23 go. And, you know, like we know all that. But that's his mechanism. That's a tool he has to use. Yeah. When every problem is a sin.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Or people. Yeah. Yeah. When every problem is a sin, the only tool you have is a hurricane. Is that how that works? Or 19 hijackers. Or 19 hijackers. Or whatever the fucking tragedy du jour happens to be.
Starting point is 00:30:42 whatever the fucking tragedy du jour happens to be. As a nation, if you would have told us back then, in 2001, that in 2017, we would... Have a lower crime rate? Have a lower crime rate? Less teen pregnancy. Less teen pregnancy. What else? That we would be on our way to flooding the globe
Starting point is 00:31:01 because we don't care about global warming. Yeah. What? Where are we going? In 2001, we would have never predicted 2017 because we're fucking bad at predicting things. He's probably going to say that we invented gay people after 2001. That's an accurate statement. Be completely redefining what gender means.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Wait, who's redefining what gender means? Nobody's redefining what gender means. Are we redefining what gender means? Nobody's redefining what gender means. Are we redefining what gender means? No. We're being tolerant and accepting of the fact that there's more than two genders. I almost said one. That would have been weird. There is more than one gender.
Starting point is 00:31:35 There's also more than two. That's true. It doesn't matter to you. It doesn't matter. How much does it matter to you? I literally never think of it. I literally never think about it. How much time do you spend thinking about gender? And I've never been corrected by anybody. I've never had anybody look at me and be like, you know, just be an asshole about it. I've never had anybody be an asshole to me about it.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Shocking. Not a single time. Shocking how little it comes up. And we interact with trans people on a far greater rate than other people. Yeah, because of our connection to the community. Exactly. Because of our connection to the community. And I've never had anybody be a jerk about it. Not one time. These people are so
Starting point is 00:32:12 crazy about, oh, what's going to happen if they, if somebody identifies as this? How does it affect you? Who cares how they identify? Does it matter? It doesn't matter how somebody identifies? I know that we're going to get the email
Starting point is 00:32:27 that's going to be like, well, Jordan Peterson says. Who cares? First of all, the man's a liar. Even if what he's saying is true, even if what he's saying is true, that somebody can, you know, somebody is going to sue you because you used the wrong pronoun. Just don't ever use a pronoun.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Just call people by their name. Just call people by their name. Just call people by their name. It's not hard. It's not. It's literally the easiest thing we do. Just don't use a pronoun. How often do I call you by he? How often?
Starting point is 00:32:55 I mean, yeah. Right. Hey, he. It's like talking about yourself in the third person. It's just weird. Nobody does that. I guess like obliquely, i were talking about you but not to you and you were there yeah and i said oh that's his and i misgendered you yeah by accident
Starting point is 00:33:14 and then you corrected me it would be very easy to say oh i'm i'm very sorry and it always would stop there or you could just be like well i don't i don't want to call you that i don't want to and you that. I don't want to. And you could have some stupid, bigoted, shitty reason. But all you have to do is just say, okay, well, from now on, I'm just going to say that's Cecil's, not his. Yeah. It's literally the easiest solution to a non-existent problem. They just keep on compiling it. The two major problems that they have is one, they don't want to have to change their pronouns.
Starting point is 00:33:44 And the other one is the bathroom. And neither, both of them are non-issues. They're total non-issues. The real, real, real problem is they don't want to go. They don't want to wind up dating somebody and finding a P.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Do you think, do you think how you think that's, that's it? I think that's the real problem. I think that is, I think that's the deep underlying problem with people having problem with gender. I think the deep underlying problem is, is that it confuses them. It confuses me. I'm confused by
Starting point is 00:34:13 your gender and now I'm feeling weird about it. That's what I think the problem is. I think it makes that gives them the weird feelies and they don't like feeling weird. I just don't think about other people like that. I don't think about it. If I run into somebody who is transgender, I use, hopefully use the pronoun correctly. I do my best to be as civil as possible in that regard, trying to be careful about who they are and who they identify as. And that's it. Yeah. That's the extent of my concern about that. It's just so easy to act with general goodwill. And then if you're wrong and then you just say, I am sorry. And then that's it.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And everybody's cool. Like everybody's cool about it. Right. Like, I mean, I've never, I've never encountered anybody where, where it's, where there's ever been any kind of an issue of any kind. The only time I've ever seen somebody be a jerk is when somebody comes in with guns blazing when they choose to call you sure you know they're choosing to call the trans person him yeah when they know it bothers yeah well then that trans
Starting point is 00:35:16 person's not being a jerk the trans person is just defending themselves they're just yeah just defending themselves exactly marriage means what sexuality No, nobody's saying anything about what sexuality means. And fucking boys have been doing butt stuff for a long time with each other. We fucking uncovered an arc in 2001 with a fucking cup and an arc and a bunch of Nazis got their face burned off. And then we discovered the butt stuff. Like the buildings fall down and two girls look at each other. It's like, yeah, I need your pussy. It's so weird because that building and then I'm just like, God damn, I need your pussy.
Starting point is 00:36:00 People wouldn't even be standing for the anthem and there'd be riots and protests in our streets. What do you think about that standing for the anthem thing? What do you think about that? When those people don't stand for the anthem? I don't care at all. Doesn't bother me either. Yeah. What do I care if they stand for the anthem?
Starting point is 00:36:15 I literally can't even understand why anybody cares that somebody else. First of all, I think I do think that like this crazy, overblown nationalistic bullshit that seems to be endemic primarily to America is weird. Yeah. Like I think hanging America flags everywhere. I think bald eagles shoved up our ass all the time is weird. I think he's right, though. In 2001, I think it would be very hard to imagine someone not standing for the, because in 2001, that it would,
Starting point is 00:36:51 it would be the farthest thing from your mind because it felt like an attack on America. So you feel like, you know, that there needs to be this, you feel defensive, but we've come a long way, baby. And here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:37:00 When, when, when that represents to someone an oppressive culture, why do you expect them to just fall in line? What you're saying is, well, you know, you might as well just be saying, you know, you guys had it pretty good under slavery. Yeah, right. You know? Right. That's embedded in there.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I just, I get the fucking big weirds when I see all that nationalistic shit. It's like you didn't almost to a T, almost to a person, it's like, you didn't choose this. You were born here by accident of birth. Who the fuck you
Starting point is 00:37:36 crapping? That's the big one. And the other piece is, you know, all this you know, all this faux patriotism, but you see and you're like, you didn't do anything for it. You aren't doing anything to protect it except for propagating it. You're not protecting it in any way. You didn't earn it.
Starting point is 00:37:51 You didn't earn it and you're not doing anything to make it, you know, better. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. You just hear. Your whole contribution to this thing is that you just didn't leave yet. Yeah. Well, big fucking deal.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm excited about that. I'm not excited about that. It's like being born in a sports jersey you never took off. Right. Exactly. It's exactly it. It's like, well, I'm going to love the...
Starting point is 00:38:17 Dolphins. Say the Dolphins. Because you don't like Dolphins and people send us messages. The Dolphins. The Dolphins. I love the Dolphins. And they'rephins. Because you don't like Dolphins and people send us messages. The Dolphins. I love the Dolphins. They're like really good at their team sport. Are they baseball
Starting point is 00:38:32 or football? They're football. The Marlins are the baseball one. Both from the same area? Yeah, Florida-ish I think, right? Florida Marlins and the Miami Dolphins. Okay. I didn't even know where I was going with that. I think it's Florida Marlins and the Miami Dolphins. Okay. I didn't even know where I was going. I think it's Florida Marlins.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Jacksonville Jaguars. I don't know. Jacksonville has a team. Yeah. Jaguars. They can't afford that. Jaguars. I've been to Jacksonville. Jacksonville, you can't afford that. You should build a Starbucks. Your city is so gross. You know who doesn't have a pro football team?
Starting point is 00:39:09 A pro football team. I don't know that they have a pro sports team. I'm trying to think. Is Iowa? Iowa. I do not think Iowa has a pro sports team. Does Idaho? Is there a Boise?
Starting point is 00:39:21 No, I don't think Idaho has anything. What about the Boilermakers? Boise Boilermakers? No, nothing in Montana. Does Wyoming have anything? Wyoming? There's a lot of these states that have nothing. Any of the Dakotas?
Starting point is 00:39:35 Oregon, I don't think has anything. Portland has the Trailblazers. Trailblazers, that's right. You got it. I didn't know Portland was in origin. I only know because I had family out there and the Bulls were winning their their New Mexico
Starting point is 00:39:52 free throw games or whatever a lot. So New Mexico, Albuquerque's no Albuquerque's. That's not a team. Nothing. What's the what's the other one by New Mexico?
Starting point is 00:40:02 Does Nevada have any Arizona? Oh, there's Arizona teams. There's Arizona teams. Phoenix has a team. What about Nevada? Las Vegas? No. Oh, they have a hockeying team.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Do they? My company just bought one. My company bought one. The Black Knights? I don't know. That sounds racist. The White Knights? That sounds even more racist. They only Knights? I don't know. That sounds racist. The White Knights? That sounds even more racist.
Starting point is 00:40:27 They only play hockey to sleep with women. They haven't done it yet. Zero percent success rate. Their time in the net is pretty low. White supremacists with torches in their hands and Antifa bullying and beating people into comas. Wait, what? That's the thing he made up.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Hold on a second. So all the white supremacists are doing is just standing there with torches. But the other people are beating people into comas. True story. Not a true story. There was actually somebody who was posting a ton of pictures
Starting point is 00:41:03 after Charlottesville and after a couple other rallies of white supremacists, like posting them on Twitter and saying this person isn't, is, they're showing pictures of them, like literally beating people with sticks, just fucking hauling off and knocking people down with sticks and beating the shit out of them. And they were posting them all over the internet
Starting point is 00:41:19 to try to get people to, so that they could, but those white supremacists fucking beat the shit out of people, man. Well, cause they're fucking evil. Because they're awful human beings. That's what evil people do. But, you know, like, he doesn't mention that. All he mentions is that they have a fucking tiki torch in their head. Right. I wonder what side you're on. I wonder what side you're on.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Oh, the blonde white guy? Yeah, the blonde white guy. I wonder what side Toe had over his head. I would have said there's no way that would happen in this country. And so today there's a message from God for us. What's the point of his brother? This guy's got athlete's
Starting point is 00:41:51 face. Somebody walks up to him and sprays him tough acting in his eyes. They just keep powdering him. Put a sock over his face. My eyes have jock itch. Is that possible?
Starting point is 00:42:06 What I love is that his brother hasn't said anything except for just, he just keeps looking back and forth. Like, is it my turn yet? He's like, he's like the dog you throw stuff for and it keeps looking at you. It's like, did you let go of it? Cause I didn't see where it went. Do you still have it? I don't know where it's at.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Well, and actually it was yesterday because in our Bible reading from yesterday on the schedule that we were on Psalm 104 was our reading. And listen to what verse four says. It says, God, he makes the winds his messengers. So God is speaking through the wind. And now we have just yesterday, Hurricane Irma touching land in Florida. Yeah, but what about before that? When Hurricane Irma touched Cuba and Hurricane Irma
Starting point is 00:42:47 touched Puerto Rico and Hurricane Irma touched Barbuda and the fucking Virgin Islands. It fucking bad touched the shit out of those islands. It fucking bad touched St. Martin. But those don't count. And Puerto Rico doesn't count
Starting point is 00:43:03 because it's like Diet light America or whatever. Yeah, it doesn't matter because it didn't have consent. I know why it matters now. Florida is America's wang. And until you get to the wang, it's all foreplay. It's all just foreplay. Basically, that's the
Starting point is 00:43:20 rapper. God is speaking, saying, I'm making the wind my messengers. And throughout the rest of that, the next few verses in Psalm 104, it talks about the waters of the flood and how God then pulled back the waters from the flood and he set waters in their boundaries and he made the land boundaries for the water. Can you imagine walking through life and thinking this? Can you imagine that every day you're just like, yeah. And then there was no, like, instead of just, you know, surface tension, there's God.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Can you imagine God would be like, I just got to draw this one coastline before I go to bed. I just got to make sure I get it just right. What defines the difference between water and not water? Land. Yeah. it just to ride what what defines the difference between water and not water land yeah yeah uh fucking literally what else would do it a slope you know for it's like a slope the fuck is wrong with you and now what we see with hurricane irma and any other hurricane the most dangerous thing is not the wind the most dangerous thing is the the storm surge. We've always seen that. What does that even mean? It's just saying the flooding is worse than the wind. So what?
Starting point is 00:44:30 I don't know. Well, because... Okay, well, you were just talking about the wind being part of God. Yeah, but then they said later in that same psalm that water was also something to pay attention to. So... God, I think, was hedging his bets with two of the elements. that water was also something to pay attention to. So, God, I think, was hedging his bets with two of the elements, the old-timey elements.
Starting point is 00:44:51 We also don't have fire and prime or whatever. Prime! What a storm surge is is when the waters breach their boundaries. And when they breach their boundaries, we get a chance to see what type of havoc they can create. And we see that morally and spiritually in America today,
Starting point is 00:45:06 the boundaries that God has put out for us morally. Like slavery. We should own slaves. It's in there. Because it's right there. So we should have those. And we're breaching that boundary today, Tommy. Well, you know, and also we haven't sacrificed any bulls on an altar recently.
Starting point is 00:45:22 That's true. Wet, damp bulls. Well. They got a little bit of water on them. They get that way sometimes. Sometimes you get a little swass on any bulls on an altar recently. That's true. Wet, damp bulls. Well. They got a little bit of water on them. They get that way sometimes. Sometimes you get a little swass on your bulls. Are for our flourishing and for his best in our lives. And when we say that gender, there is no boundary.
Starting point is 00:45:37 When we say that sexuality, there is no boundary. Who's saying those things? Are we saying, is anybody really saying that there are no boundaries to gender? There are no boundaries to sexuality? There's a length of your cock. You know what I mean? I mean, like, I can't fuck someone from
Starting point is 00:45:53 across the room. There's a boundary. There's a boundary. It's space, time. Those things are between us. It's just like, I hate that shit. Not between us, but between me and the radical. There's nothing between us, buddy. Between the theoretical person and me. The theoretical person that would have sex with me. That is a theoretical person.
Starting point is 00:46:10 It's a theory. Jesus. It's a real doll. It's not a theory. It's a silicone person. I put her on a Roomba. She moves around the room. Did you, by the way, did you see the story that has been circulating this past week about the dude who's like, I was on TV or whatever, who's got like a super fancy sex doll, like a real doll and talks and stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And they can set it to family mode and it'll like, like give out like trivial pursuit facts or something. And like he has it in his living room and his kids interact with it and take a whole thing with his children and his wife and it like I know I know what I know it's that weird dude what it's that weird what and it's like he's like what they fill in the vagina I
Starting point is 00:46:57 you can set it how do you something how do you set something that you bought to fuck its face to family mode it's like it's like taking your fleshlight out and putting a deck of cards or or using or using a vase for flowers yeah honey i brought you these flowers you come home and the vibrator is a butter dish. That's not, wait a minute. That's the vibrator. There's a pubic hair in the butter.
Starting point is 00:47:31 The kids are misbehaving. So you fucking put them in a spreader bar. They're just like, yeah, who's going to run away from me now? You little shit. At this point, you're just repurposing something,
Starting point is 00:47:41 you know, but it's like, it's like a whole, that is face having. That's it. That know? But it's like a whole face-having thing. That's a weird... Why would it even have a family mode? Just set it to... It's all time. It looks really surprised.
Starting point is 00:47:55 It's just... Your wife comes in, Honey, your friend is so surprised all the time. Well, it's like it's so funny because of the article, the wife's like, yeah, I like it. Like she's, she's fun. She has like spice to the bedroom. It's like, how do you look over at your wife and be like, yeah, I'm going to fuck this doll for a while. I don't want to walk on anybody's kink, but that's like fucking a corpse.
Starting point is 00:48:25 It's like a 46 pound corpse. You got to drag her out. You're like moving it around. It's like fucking weekend at Bernie's. Like it's just not fun. You just look over like old judge. You're like, you won't do butt stuff,
Starting point is 00:48:39 but she will. I don't know why you'd make that sound. Cause you're Popeye you're like skip sky who does that during butt stuff she's like that's why I keep a can of spinach by the bed it makes it bigger you're never strong to the finish
Starting point is 00:49:02 I always go to the end it's like bigger you're never strong to the finish when we kind of i always go to the end it's like i limp at the finish say that marriage can be whatever you want it to be we are breaching the boundaries of god and we as a country on the anniversary of 9-11 16 years after that horrific uh terrorist act took place in our country. God is speaking. Repent. Yes, you've rebuilt, but it's time to repent. There's still just two big holes in the ground, to be entirely fair. Absolutely. There's still one World Trade Center tower, the one world I've been in there.
Starting point is 00:49:39 It's really cool. Yeah. But like there's two real big holes in the ground. Yeah, where there's like an infinity fountains or whatever. Yeah, they're beautiful. It's actually a really cool monument. It's a really cool holes in the ground. Yeah. Where there's like an infinity fountains or whatever. Yeah. They're beautiful. It's actually a really cool monument. Beautiful. It's a really cool monument.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I've been there. What's really neat is they have electronic finders for people's name. So you can find someone's name electronically. Like there's a way to go over and like, like type in someone's name and it'll be like, he's on or she's on X two and you just walk over and you can find their name. And, uh,
Starting point is 00:50:04 the building there's, there's a museum that we did not go into, but there's a museum their name. That's nice. And the building, there's a museum that we did not go into, but there's a museum on it that looks like the tower has toppled. I don't know if you saw that museum there. Oh, yeah, yeah. So it looks like one of the towers that fell. It's really an amazing sight. It's a beautiful
Starting point is 00:50:18 memorial. It's really beautiful. But yeah, you're right. There's big holes in the ground. Yeah, it's rebuilt. The damage is when the boundaries are removed and that storm surge of moral corruption comes in. They're really belaboring this metaphor so hard.
Starting point is 00:50:36 They want this to work, but it's not. It's just not. You don't like gay people, man. In the name of Jesus, we speak that. like gay people, man. In the name of Jesus, we speak that. I'm high on the feeling. I'm high on the feeling. This is great. This is from Salon.com.
Starting point is 00:51:10 This is Lance Wallaby. He claimed that you can stop a hurricane with prayer, and he did pray, and he said he stopped it. But it didn't actually stop, so that's sort of confusing. It did. It did eventually. You've got to hear what he says. No, it actually went on shore and dissipated So that's sort of confusing. It did. It did eventually. You gotta hear what he says. No, it actually went on shore and dissipated. That's exactly what happened.
Starting point is 00:51:31 I mean, like, let's not. Like it always does. As opposed to the hurricane that's still there from last year. It's still just spinning around. It's like a dog and a woman in a dress and a fucking house and a witch with weird stockings all flying through the air. I mean, they all, they all dissipate. You know what's awesome? They all do.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I'm watching this thing and I'm always thinking like, man, hurricane must suck. We get tornadoes up here and that's not fun. Tornadoes are unpleasant, not fun. And I'm watching this fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:51:59 The entire fucking place is under a tornado warning. And I'm like, wait, you got a hurricane. why you get tornadoes too so do they get tornadoes in their hurricanes as well they get like peanut butter and chocolate i'm happy for what we were able to see happen with uh the hurricane in florida i know there are people that are going to kick him out of the public library where he's recording this. He's seriously recording this in the public library. He's exactly in that spot during Ghostbusters
Starting point is 00:52:29 where the latest... The except for the ectoplasm is his semen deposits. He's going to get kicked out for two reasons. Oh, boy. We have a lot of devastation, Lance. I know there's a lot of flooding. Jacksonville. I was going to pray for Jacksonville the other night, but I thought, oh, it's always on the right side.
Starting point is 00:52:49 I mean, it's on the East Coast. Don't worry about it. And so you didn't, and they flooded? You're an asshole. Jesus, Lance. Well, God's up there like, what? Lance didn't tell me he didn't want me to hit Jacksonville. Lance, you got to land this plane.
Starting point is 00:53:04 I'm just going to send that hurricane in willy-nilly unless you tell me where it's got to go, boy. It's flooding. Now, it's not flooding over there in Tampa, in that area. It's very strange. But I'm telling you, this hurricane went where the Everglades is instead of where Miami is. It's like, boom, prayer moved it. It was the best of all things, considering if you have to have a hurricane. Yeah, but why do we have to have one if your magic sky man could make it do stuff? I know. You don't have to have a hurricane. Is it a devil cane?
Starting point is 00:53:34 Like the devil's just strong? Well, it's going to happen. You may as well enjoy it. What? Probably the best scenario. And then right between Tampa and Orlando. I kept seeing, is it going to hit Tampa? No, it skirted right between Tampa and Orlando. I kept seeing, is it going to hit Tampa? No, it skirted right between Tampa and Orlando.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Sure, it brushed both, but it would have devastated either city. No, it wouldn't have. It lost all its power once it hit the ground. Once it made landfall, it really turned, it very quickly turned into a tropical storm after that. Which is commonly what happens with hurricanes. Yeah. It's just what happens. And whenever they make those predictions, whenever they show
Starting point is 00:54:07 those things, they're always talking about it being very powerful, but it has to be in the water for it to be powerful. Because that's what feeds it. Yeah. As soon as it makes... Okay, just play this. That's where all the demons are. The demons get... I swear to God. They come up from the water and they get fed into it. Do I have to come over there? I went from a category 5 to a 4.
Starting point is 00:54:24 It's a 3 to a 2. That's what happens! That's how you count down from 5! Oh my god. What would be the alternative? An infinite hurricane? For real! For real! The hurricane's just like, fuck you, this is my house now, bitch! And it just sits there?
Starting point is 00:54:39 It just stays there indefinitely. What is the planet that has the infinite hurricane? There's a couple of them because there's big, but Jupiter has that, right? Jupiter has, Jupiter has the big red spot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Okay. That's all. But it's weird. Cause it's, it's not just at once every month. It's the entirety of its existence, not existence. Actually,
Starting point is 00:55:00 I think it's only been up there for, it's been observed for 187 years. So, okay. So that, that would be something. That would be a long storm. That would be a difficult place to be. I would be like, okay, you have my attention. In order to have that here,
Starting point is 00:55:15 you would need our planet to be Jupiter. Okay. Touche. Which is hard. Hold on. I'm not, I'm not an astrologer. Astrologer? I know that people are saying, Lance, people had a lot of loss.
Starting point is 00:55:29 They're texting us. It's an amazing intervention of God. And we have to praise God. We've got to rise up and not be all constantly saying, oh, the hurricanes from God. Oh, it's judgment on America. Stop it. We have to take our place to protect the nation. Wait, hold on a second. What? Now it's not on America. Stop it. We have to take our place to protect the nation. Wait, hold on a second.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Now he's attacking Jim Baker. He's attacking Jim Baker, too, because Jim Baker constantly says it's judgment on America. Plus those two numbskulls we just listened to. He's counteracting them. Is he praying against them? Here's the thing, too.
Starting point is 00:56:02 If a hurricane is God's judgment, and you pray against it, are you working against them? Here's the thing, too. If a hurricane is God's judgment, and you pray against it, are you working against God? Yeah, I don't know. And can you do that by prayer? So in other words, you pray, and God's like, well, I want this thing to happen. You're like, well, I prayed, and this guy's like, oh, that's so
Starting point is 00:56:18 confusing, because I'm supposed to answer your prayer. But I don't want to. But I don't want to because I wanted to send this hurricane to indiscriminately displaced people who have nothing to do with gay rights. I was really interested in the South. Lord, we just asked it to be covered
Starting point is 00:56:33 with the blood of Jesus. Open hearts, Lord. Open hearts. I think this is awful. This story disgusts me. This story is fucking horrifying. This is from the Metro.co.uk. This is fucking awful. Pope Francis from the Metro.co.uk. This is fucking awful. Pope Francis persuades acid attack victim not to go through with euthanasia. So there's a woman who was burned by her partner 17 years ago in an acid attack.
Starting point is 00:56:59 She's burned so terribly that she has to breathe through a straw. She can't consume food other than liquid food that she also has to breathe through a straw. She can't consume food other than liquid food that she also has to consume through a straw. She has to wear a mesh bodysuit at all times. She can't walk around in the world. She found out relatively recently that it is getting worse from there. And so when she found even more terrible medical news,
Starting point is 00:57:24 she made a decision there was something wrong with her brain a brain infection and so she was like you know what enough is enough and she made the decision to go through with euthanasia and she asked the pope fucking liver spots or whatever
Starting point is 00:57:40 to bless this decision and he was like no you have a lot to live for and that's kind of the thrust of his advice whatever to bless this decision. And he was like, no, you have a lot to live for. And that's kind of the thrust of his advice. Easy to fucking say when you're not fucking breathing through a straw, asshole. Easy to fucking say when
Starting point is 00:57:55 you can eat solid food. Easy to fucking say when you live a pampered fucking existence where your every fucking whim is catered to by a team of people in your magical fucking city walled off from the rest of reality easy to fucking say when you don't have a fucking brain infection easy to fucking say when you're not walking around in a fucking mesh body outfit because some fucking vengeful dipshit poured acid on your body and ate away and chewed through your skin and disfigured you forever.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Easy fucking position to take, you fucking coward. I will say that if this person is finding meaning in life and they want to go on, good for them. This is a difficult life to live, way more difficult than anything I could
Starting point is 00:58:42 possibly imagine, this life that they're leading. So, I don this life that they're leading. So I don't know what they're going through. I know the limits of my own life and how bleak everything would look to me, but I'm not living their life. And they had a conversation where he said, the thing that makes me crazy about this is that the Pope, she went to the Pope,
Starting point is 00:59:04 she's going through all this stuff, and she says, hey, will you bless me? And when she asked, she changed her mind, and she told the media, quote, he said no. He said he was not going to do it. He told me that I was very brave and very pretty and that changed my life. Now I want to live. Now him saying no is the thing. I understand that there's a mortal sin stuff that they say where, you know, like you, you can't kill yourself. You shouldn't kill yourself. And they have this weird fetish about not killing yourself. Right. That's big. It's a big deal to them. I'm not living in her body, but man, what an awful thing to be like, I'm not, I know it's your will. I know it's your, I know you're going through a tough time, but I'm not going to bless that.
Starting point is 00:59:50 I'm not going to say. That's the problem I have is like, he has no fucking idea how to, I mean, he just doesn't, he just doesn't know how to respond to this experience. Nobody knows how to respond to this experience. The only thing I can think as an appropriate response would be for him to say something like, look, this is a deeply personal decision that is yours and yours alone. And if you need help or counsel or guidance, that is what we're here for.
Starting point is 01:00:15 You can't... This idea like that this motherfucker is going to tell her she has a lot to live for. And the worst part about this in this entire story, the acid attack by this guy left her so injured that she had to wear a mesh bodysuit at all times. But he just served one month
Starting point is 01:00:32 in prison. How? How is that even a thing? How is that even a thing? It just blows me away. This is one of those stories you... I had to walk away from this story. It's one of those stories that you read, you open up the story, you start to read it and you're just like, sorry, I got to close this for a minute.
Starting point is 01:00:50 I find these acid attack stories like this a lot. I'm not even living this life. I'm not even living it. I'm just reading about it. I had to stop. this story is from indy100.com i love this story this is a great story it's got it's got an awful element to it because somebody's behaving badly, but the response is beautiful. Woman attacks Sikh politician for supporting Sharia law. It's nonsense. His response
Starting point is 01:01:30 is flawless. I totally agree. This guy handled this like a fucking champ. It's genius. He's an absolute champ. I don't want to play the thing for you because most of the time you can't hear her because she's just shouting. You have to see the captions. Basically what she's screaming is, hey, we're not going to deal with the Sharia law in this country. You know, she,
Starting point is 01:01:50 she's up in his face. He's in the front of a crowd and she just gets right in his face and starts screaming at him, trying to steal the mic from him. Basically saying, we know your ties to the Muslim brotherhood. We know all this stuff. And she's saying it to a Sikh. Which is so indicative of that horrifying ignorance, right? It's so funny to see that Islamophobia spill out past its fucking
Starting point is 01:02:15 boundaries, to borrow a term from those two other idiots earlier. This guy, I love, by the way, his name is Jameet Singh, and he has Jameet and greets. I love that by the way, his name is Jameet Singh. And he has Jameet and Greets. I love that so much! He's a Canadian politician. So, yeah, of course they're doing it better than we are.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Yeah, that's so funny. And he stops this woman, this woman saying stuff, and he just takes the mic and he's like, look, what do we believe in? We believe in love and courage, right? Hey, everybody, love and courage. And he gets people to chant love and courage with him. And they're all just chanting and she's just like fuming because she can't, she can't get him to engage her. And he's like, look, I love you.
Starting point is 01:02:54 I just want people to know I love you. And I want you, he says, we don't want hatred to ruin a positive event, right? We don't want hatred or a positive event. Let's show people how we treat someone with love. Yeah. And then he's like, he's saying, he says, he's like, turns to the crowd. He's like, we support you. To this woman who's yelling at him, we support you. We love you. Love and courage.
Starting point is 01:03:15 We support you. We love you. Love and courage. And she's just like, Muslim Brotherhood? She's like, her anger just peters out and she just peaces and she just leaves. She just leaves eventually. I'm owned by that. The people who just...
Starting point is 01:03:31 I understand the frustration with Islam. I understand the frustration with it. I think it's a horrible set of ideas. But the people who are afraid of it, the people who fear it, the people who are afraid of it, the people who fear it, the people who are afraid,
Starting point is 01:03:48 they're the worst ones. Those are the ones that you got to watch out for. The ones that are afraid of it and the ones that are trying to make you afraid of it. Those are the worst ones. You shouldn't be afraid of Islam. You shouldn't be afraid of that set of ideas. You should combat it.
Starting point is 01:04:02 You should say, it's a terrible set of ideas, but you should never be spreading fear of Islam. You should combat it. You should say, it's a terrible set of ideas. But you should never be spreading fear of Islam. You should never be saying, we need to be afraid of these people. You don't need to do that. As soon as I'm afraid of something, that thing I'm afraid of has the power. I've granted it power over my thoughts, over my emotional responses to things. I don't want to give it that. And I'm going to act irrationally. Right. Exactly. I'm going to act in an irrational way. Don't be afraid of it.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Right. Call it a bad idea. Say, you know what? Sharia law is a bad idea. Of course, it's terrible. It's, you know, when they have these fucking like ghost squads and shit in other countries. And then they hurt other people for fucking complete non-issues. They injure other people.
Starting point is 01:04:46 They cut off people. They cut off hands off. They beat women. You know, yes, those places where the rule of law is based in the Quranic culture there, it's a bad thing. It's an a bad thing. It's an objective, bad thing. Yeah. But to be afraid of it means that,
Starting point is 01:05:11 that you're going to do things. You're going to be at the same level as it. Yeah. And you're showing everybody in the world that you're just a terrified person. And the best part is she's so scared that she can't even understand that the man isn't even Muslim. She doesn't even check. She's,
Starting point is 01:05:24 she doesn't, she's just, she just identifies. She that the man isn't even Muslim. She doesn't even check. She doesn't. She just identifies. She just racially profiles what she does. Not racially, but she just profiles. She just profiles. So we want to thank our patrons. We want to thank all our patrons, of course, but we want to thank our most recent patrons.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Kara, Glenda, JD, Amber, Kelly, we want to thank all our patrons of course but we want to thank our most recent patrons kara glenda jd amber kelly ryan jeff rasmus chargio ashley panic amy slam nasty fat girl ballet blind skeptic and we got a weird message today from Patreon. This is weird. This normally doesn't happen, but this was unpronounceable, and I clicked on it. It's actually an audio file I want to play, so this is another patron that we got. Let's listen. Hey, Tom and Cecil. Glory hole. My name's Levi, and about a year and a half ago, I met an amazing woman,
Starting point is 01:06:19 but it wasn't until a few weeks later that I realized just how special she was. We were driving back from a weekend trip, and the idiot part of me decided to do what I'd normally do while driving. So before I could chicken out, I threw on your latest episode. My stomach was in knots, but it wasn't long before she was laughing her ass off at abortion jokes, and I still remember thinking,
Starting point is 01:06:39 I'm falling in love with this person. So the reason I'm calling is that right here on this live recording in front of the entire cognitive dissonance family, I want to say this. Tamara, I know you're not perfect. You're beautifully flawed like all humans, but no one will ever know how perfect you are to me. As long as I have life, I want to live it with you as my partner. Will you marry me? Okay, sweetheart. Now we got to come up with a proposal story that we can actually share with people. We can't tell anybody about this shit. Okay. I don't want to give you too many notes here, Levi, but starting a proposal with, I know you're not perfect. I would just, here's what I would do, Levi, go back to the drawing
Starting point is 01:07:21 part. You know, that would be like, if you gave her the ring and she looked at it and was like, let's talk about the flaws in this diamond. Let's talk about how this is a returnable item. Oh, Levi. Congratulations. I am ecstatic for you. I think right now we don't know how it goes.
Starting point is 01:07:39 I think it'll be fine. It's going to be fine. She's going to say yes. That's awesome. That's great. Congratulations. Squirrel away some money. And let us know, let us know when your,
Starting point is 01:07:50 when your wedding is and we'll send a cognitive dissonance donut and Danish to you. Oh yeah. Donut. You know what we should do? We should have a cognitive dissonance wedding dress on our merch page. We should. It's only $1,100. We sold one unit. We sold one unit?
Starting point is 01:08:07 We sold one of them. So we got a message from John. A bunch of people sent this to us this week. This is an image that says, come to Chicago. No tornadoes, no hurricanes, no earthquakes, no major fires in almost 150 years.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Just great pizza a shit ton of shootings and a shit ton of taxes and that's fucking true that is fucking true we got an image from Aaron a Trump image that we're going to post on this week's show it's hilarious
Starting point is 01:08:39 got a message from Jocelyn this is so gross Jocelyn sent in this image of, I guess in Australia, they spell flavor wrong, which is weird, but they also have Neapolitan M&Ms and they look like they're different colors on the outside. I wonder if they're different flavors on the inside.
Starting point is 01:08:59 I don't know. And I'll never know because I would never eat these. I would just, I mean, I eat M&Ms one at a time. So I don't know what the big deal is anyway. You're basically scooping one individual flavor. Wait a minute. Do you really? You never get a nice food funnel full of M&M's?
Starting point is 01:09:13 You never just open the, you know, slit one end of the bag and then you open the other end of the bag like a beer bottle and just let them go into your mouth? Really? That's not how you do it? You eat M&M's one at a time? I don't like to have more than 30 or 40 filling each cheek. You're like a fucking chipmunk.
Starting point is 01:09:30 You just fall asleep with M&M's in your mouth. So many M&M's in my mouth. It was like brown chocolate spit water dripping down my face. Just pour it down your face. What's that? The bag says for sharing. your face. What's that?
Starting point is 01:09:49 The bag says for sure. I went back and forth again with Dan about Kekistan. One of the things that I think Tom and I want to talk about is I think where your argument falls apart is where you put in a dichotomy where we need to choose sides. I do not agree that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. We can be opposed to both Antifa and the alt-right, but neither offer us a world we want to live in. And then he equates Antifa and alt-right to rapists and child rapists and saying they're both basically bad. The thing is, is that on the one side, you have people who are saying genocide is cool. I totes want genocide. And then on the other side, you have people who say, I don't like people who want genocide.
Starting point is 01:10:33 I have not heard anything about this Antifa before white supremacists started coming back on the, on the scene. I had, I had not heard, you know, I know that you make a bunch of assumptions about what Antifa wants and how Antifa is going to try to come after us after the alt-right is gone. And somehow like the alt-right is there to protect us. I don't know if that's what you're saying, but the alt-right is there as sort of what they're going after now. But once the alt-right is gone and once the Nazis are gone, they're going to come after, I guess, the rest of society. But wouldn't society just be like, no? I don't understand what the
Starting point is 01:11:09 deal is. I also think I am against Nazis and white supremacists existentially. I am against that from a point of the very existence of the concepts themselves, right?
Starting point is 01:11:26 I do not oppose Antifa conceptually or from an existential standpoint. I oppose them when they use violence. Sure. So I don't care if Antifa exists, if they're nonviolent. If Antifa exists and they're nonviolent, I don't care. Yeah. I don't have an issue with the existence of them. I have an issue with the existence itself of the philosophy of white supremacists, right? The fact of them is
Starting point is 01:11:54 problematic. I would have a problem with white supremacists if they were peaceful. I have a problem with white supremacy if they never raise a fist to anyone. Sure. Because the ideas themselves are horrifying, bigoted, toxic ideas. The ideas will cause violence. The ideas can only disempower. The ideas are themselves violent ideas. The ideas cause violence inherently. I don't think the same is true of Antifa. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:21 I just don't. And I know that a lot of people are saying, like, you know, well, look at these guys. These are communists or these are people who are against capitalists. They're anti-capitalists. I don't care. I don't care if somebody is a communist or a capitalist or anti-capitalist. It doesn't bother me.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Look, if they're trying to attack the government, then we'll talk about it. But as it stands right now, they're standing on the side with all the rest of the people saying white supremacy is bad and objectively white supremacy is bad. Right. So I don't have any problems with what they're doing. Like I genuinely don't care because, because they're not doing any, unless they, like I say, unless they start a fight, I don't care. Yeah. I'm right there with you. Unless they, like I say, unless they start a fight, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Yeah, I'm right there with you. We got a video. This is from Craig. And it's a meat commercial from Australia that is just really well done. It's about a bunch of gods at a table while eating. And it's hilarious. This is genuinely funny. It's a very good video.
Starting point is 01:13:22 So we're going to post it on this week's show notes. Check it out. We got a message from Natalie and Natalie makes a comment about the corn goblin from Iowa, Steve King. Steve King was saying
Starting point is 01:13:35 the transportation system, how the person's going to go back to the country and be like, tell them about our great transportation system. Natalie says, our transportation system is great. That's why Amtrak is in the shitter and buses are quite reliably never show
Starting point is 01:13:51 up on time. It's so funny. Amtrak is the worst. It's genuinely the worst. I love her comment. Steve King is from Iowa. So is Slipknot. It's a really funny email. Steve King, we got a lot of messages about Steve King. He's got to be just
Starting point is 01:14:09 pulling his own hair out that Donald Trump has fallen back on DACA now. He's got to be losing his mind. He's got to be losing it. And we did mess up. Steve King is not from Des Moines or doesn't have any dominion over Des Moines or whatever. Dominion? I guess he's whatever. He was dominion.
Starting point is 01:14:25 I guess he's from, uh, Sioux city, uh, Iowa. And that's, but there's also a guy by the name of David young, I guess who's also shitty, but he's from Des Moines.
Starting point is 01:14:34 The other one is not. So I said, I must've offhand said that they were responsible. You're just sort of peripherally responsible. We got a message from Andrew and Susie and they ask if we're going to be going to Melbourne when we go down to Sydney. We are not visiting any other place in Australia.
Starting point is 01:14:54 I am the day after the conference flying off to New Zealand with my wife. We're going to do some traveling there. Tom is heading to other places in Australia, but we are not going to be visiting places and doing any kind of meetups or anything other than the thing we're doing in Sydney. That's the only thing we're going to be there for three days. We'll be landing on Friday. We'll be leaving on Sunday or on Monday morning. So we will be there Sunday evening all the way
Starting point is 01:15:19 through the whole conference. But it's our first time in that part of the world. And so we sort of packed a vacation together around this trip because it's a 20 hour flight. So we figured we should probably try to pack something around this to make the 20 hour flight worthwhile. And so we have this conference to go to but then we're also using as a jumping off point for both of us to travel around that part of the world.
Starting point is 01:15:43 So we didn't have extra days to sort of prepare things. So we didn't, we just sort of put them together for ourselves to try to have. But if we make it back again, we almost certainly will try to do something like that. And I hope we make it back again. There's parts of that part of the world I'd like to see.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Yeah, for sure. We got a message. This is from Wombat. And he says, greeting from a corn goblin. And he tells us, he says, look, we're short, stumpy people covered in calluses, warts and stray hairs and leathery skin. So that covers the goblin part. And we simply cannot get enough corn.
Starting point is 01:16:17 We devote 98% of our estate to growing it. He says, he does make fun of us later. He says, I suppose we could have it worse, though. At least we're not those cousin fucking orcs down south in Missouri. And we're not those pretty boy elves in Chicago. Seriously, guys aren't even high levels and you can't even lift an 80 pound bag of seed get over yourselves. That's true.
Starting point is 01:16:40 It's true. So that's the bar in Iowa to cross. Like, yeah, I'm strong. Yeah, I'm strong. He lifted. Boy. Brian in San Diego sends us a message and he says, hey, I found your show and he's enjoying it. And then he found episode 321 where we talked about modest needs and he really enjoyed it and he wound up donating.
Starting point is 01:17:02 And he said, I just want you to know that even though you're not currently talking about Modest Needs, they still got a donation because that episode exists. And he was able to hear it. I think that's awesome. And I just want to emphasize that Modest Needs is one of my very favorite charities. It really is a great charity. I think it's a beautiful charity that does some good work.
Starting point is 01:17:19 It's got a great story. It's run by some really awesome folks. So if you're looking for a place to put some charity money, check out modest needs. It's really just a beautiful organization. I'm proud to have worked with them. Tom, uh, Tom, Megan, and I have been members through the show for the, since, since we did that. So we've been members through the show. The show has been paying them monthly, uh, because of this, because of the moving, uh, how moving their charity is. So the show since then has been paying them monthly because of this, because of the moving, how moving their charity is. So the show since then has been paying them money because we just think it's such a worthwhile thing.
Starting point is 01:17:52 We got a bunch of messages about the Peace Corps, but this one in particular is from the Vagabondish Humanist. humanist. And this is the part that we were talking about last time, basically saying, look, when I was a Peace Corps volunteer, I got several months of intense training. I was in the host country and I got months of intense training, was taught to speak the language and I had the financial and logistical support of a federal agency. Yeah. Just like those kids that are getting deported, right? It's still have all those same things when they get that stupid thing to say,
Starting point is 01:18:32 you know, it's such a stupid, it really is idiotic thing to say. And he's got to be going crazy now. And the peace corps has got to be going crazy too, because they're going to lose. If DACA does, does go through where they give those people a full on deferment,
Starting point is 01:18:44 they're going to lose all those volunteers. And they where they give those people a full-on deferment, they're going to lose all those volunteers. And they probably, Peace Corps probably didn't plan for that. Probably not. It's probably in their budget for 2018. Yeah, probably didn't plan for it. If you're a patron, tune in on Sunday for our live stream event
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Starting point is 01:19:15 And we're also going to be drinking Neapolitan Stout. So tune in. We're also going to be talking about Tadesh from the Think Inc. Corporation that is putting on the Skepticon in Australia. So you want to check it out. If you miss it, if this is Monday, you're not a patron,
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