Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 387: Turn that Frown Upside Down

Episode Date: November 20, 2017

  Male lions having sex in Kenya has censors roaring over ‘crazy gay animals’ The ‘antifa super-soldier’ conspiracy theory is dangerous because people want to believe it Poll: Vast majority of Trump voters say he should stay in office even if Russia collusion is proven Catholic Hospital Pressured Women to Bury Their Fetuses—Then Pence Made It Law Christian Preacher: When Donald Trump Swears, He’s Just Acting Like Jesus Conservative writer: God was ‘answering prayers’ of Texas victims by letting them get shot Fox News' Ainsley Earhardt says Church the best place to be shot HOUSE GOP SIMULTANEOUSLY PUSHES FOR NEW ABORTION BAN AND END TO ADOPTION TAX CREDIT Hero-gunman-stopped-Texas-shooter-breaks-silence Florida church changes sign after message misinterpreted as sexual Premier U.S. Hospitals Are Selling Unproven Alternative Therapies Sandy Rios: Officials May Be Lying About Texas Church Shooter’s ‘Atheism’ Connections To Antifa

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This is episode 387, highlighted on the big board. On the big board. Thank you, Cecil. And I will give myself the out to say, man, we're recording episode after episode after episode. I don't even know what's up, what's down. We're going down under. So everything else is just kind of falling apart. This, of course,

will happen after we have already been down under. So it was a pleasure to meet all of you, of course. You know who you are. You're my favorite. And that guy, come on. And our show was an absolute disaster. And Eli pulled the cart out of his ass

and showed everyone his penis and i just and i drowned scooby i think so all right so we're good we're moving on who's that guy on the other side of the glory hole it's jesus oh my god this is great this story is from the Daily News. Male lions having sex in Kenya has censors roaring over crazy gay animals. So, there's censors at the zoo?

Or whatever? Like, there's animal censors? I read that title, that headline. I'm like, really? There's censors for everything. Not just like, what movies are we going to watch? Let's ask the censor. Like, what are the lions going to do? There's a guy with like a cloth that holds it in front of them when they're banging. They're just doing it like they do on the Discovery Channel.

They're just nothing but mammals. This is, that was bad. So this is basically a photograph of two dudes, lion dudes. Lion dudes. Here to be getting it on. Yeah. This is basically a photograph of two dudes, lion dudes.

Lion dudes. Here to be getting it on. My favorite part of this is, you can't really listen to this audio because the people do really have very thick accents and it's kind of hard to understand. But when you listen to it, one of the guys, the guy who's getting asked the question,

the person says, well, there's two male lions and they look like they were having sex. And the guy's like, how do we know they're male? And the woman says, well, it's common knowledge that any lion that has a mane is a male. Right.

Well, maybe it's a cross dressing. Oh, no, no, no. Oh, no, we know. They look like they're having some fun, though. Look at that one on the bottom. He's like, give me, give me. I just, I have like, like, did he spit on it first? I mean, really? he's going to dry

he's going to dry they live I think that those little lipstick things come with their own lube oh they self lube I want a self lubing dick that's an amazing they would almost have to wouldn't they I don't know cause don't they like physically attack the female and like I don't know but isn't it because the female's in heat or whatever so

maybe she's just down juicy as fuck the whole time just like just walking around damn bitch damn you juicy yeah i don't know maybe that's what being in heat is just they're just walking around well fucking well what's this guy giving off? If that's the case. Maybe he's not in heat. It's just damn hot out. That's all he's doing. I love too because the guy says,

the guy again also says, well, maybe they saw a couple of gay guys and they learned it from the gay guys and i'm thinking to myself one do animals need to watch us fuck to know how to fuck right need do they need that level of information and like like if that's the case then why haven't they started their own fire or stolen a car or, you know, I don't know, poached each other. If they learn from humans. Right. Let's hunt us for sport.

We're watching you. What? What? Gay couple is like walking around. They see two lions and they're like, this is the place to fuck. I want to fuck. I got to tell you. I know you are. OK. It's like it's just like when you hang yourself and you jerk off. It is the place to fuck. I want to fuck. Because I got to tell you, you are.

It's just like when you hang yourself and you jerk off. It's the threat of death. It makes you shoot your balls out of your cock. But the doom. That's what it is. That's what it is. We might get eaten, but get eaten.

All right. Let's get your fucking... I'm going to grab a hold of your main it's funny because uh so i got i got a story that i wanted to tell about this so when this is this relates back to animals imitating other things and this is totally this is totally off the off topic but i want to tell it anyway as i was somewhere where this dog there was a little dog and it was one of those little shitty dogs, those little like,

they're like the tiny shitty dogs that are like the size of like a purse. You know what I mean? Like the small shih tzu kind of dogs. Yeah, a little hamster dog or whatever. They look like, I don't know, they look like a purse dog,

but it's a little bigger than that. Kind of look like a Benji, but a shorter Benji, right? Okay, yeah. And with a lot more hair on its face, like a sheep dog, but it's a little bigger than that. Kind of look like a Benji, but a shorter Benji, right? Okay, yeah. And so, and with a lot more hair on its face, like a sheepdog look. Anyway, this dog

sounds like it is coughing up a lung. It sounds so bad. Every time somebody walks up to it, it sounds like it's coughing, like really bad. And where is this? It was,

I was out somewhere and there was somebody who had a dog. So this was at like a thing, a gathering that I was out somewhere and there was somebody who had a dog. So this was at like a thing, a gathering that I was at. Okay. And this person had this dog. Well, you know when dogs cough

and it sounds hollow and weird, like they sound like they're at the bottom of a well or something. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it sounds like somebody's

beating on a coffee can or something. Just like, ka-toom, ka-toom, ka-toom. And it's crazy too, because it doesn't matter the size of the dog,

no matter what size the dog is, that fucking sound is as big as a room, no matter what. And this little dog is making the sound. And I can't, I wonder, I'm like, and it sounds like it's oinking,

right? It sounds like it's all weird. And I, and I go to somebody like that poor dog sounds so sick. And like, no, no, that dog's, that dog's grew up with pigs and so it's imitating the pigs and i'm like i don't believe you i'm like that dog's sick and then a couple other people came up to me and said that the dog is imitating pigs because it grew up with pigs and so it oinks instead of barks i don't know how true that is the The dog seriously could have been very sick.

I never talked to anybody that could confirm or deny this, but everybody that I talked to said the same thing, that the dog grew up with pigs and so it then imitates the pigs. I'm still skeptical of the whole thing. I think what people are doing is saying

that dog may have a problem with its voice and they assume that that's what it's trying to do even though it can't. Maybe. But if a dog does that, isn't that the craziest thing? If it's true, and I'm not sure that it's true. Maybe they're just fucking with you.

Maybe it's like my dog is dying. Oh, he grew up around corpses. So he's imitating he grew up in a funeral home. It's fine. My dog grew up around bodies that were embalmeditating he grew up in a funeral home yeah it's fine my dog grew up around bodies that were embalmed which is why it smells like that so you are watching the beginning and the birth of the new world order and you want to call me crazy go to hell call me crazy all you want this story story is from The Verge. The Antifa super soldier conspiracy theory

is dangerous because people want to believe it. And this touches a little bit upon what we talked about last week in terms of people wanting to believe conspiracy theories. Yeah, for sure. How incredibly tempting it is to believe these theories. Yeah, and there was a bunch of fake stuff that was going on around this.

There's a blog called The Gateway Pundit posted a copy of something a comedian had written about how millions of Antifa super soldiers would behead all white parents and small business owners on a certain day. November 4th, they were going to do that. Yeah, and it said, another piece of this article says,

Antifa will launch violent civil war, possibly backed by billionaire George Soros, and shadowy forces within the U.S. government who are quietly organizing a mass electrical blackout to coincide with the uprising. And, you know, of all the things that

I read, this sounds, it sounds like it rings true the most, because blackout lives matter, I think, more than anything else. But this is made up. White out covers up a lot of mistakes. Also in this story, one of the things that they mention is conservative

actor James Woods. I saw that. He's an asshole on Twitter. I don't know if you see all the stuff he puts out there. It's all just fake news garbage. It's just that fake news, fake he puts out there. It's all just it's fake news garbage. It's just that fake news, fake news, fake news. Yeah, he's just a right wing

conspiracy. Yeah, he's a right wing shit. Oh my God. That's just what is he in? What is James Woods in? He's in the family guy where he's like, oh, piece of candy, piece of candy. But other than that, nothing. I mean, yeah, he's in other stuff, but I don't know. You know, like the whole Antifa.

Antifa has become the right wing whipping boy, right? What it is, this is the new Obama brown shirt, right? It's the new quasi military arm. It's like when Occupy was a thing. Or when Jade Helm was a thing. Right. It's just it's whatever they can look at and and say, oh my God, there's some scary, you know,

violent purge like, you know, a reprisal that's going to come forward from Antifa or from whoever. And it's going to, you know, they're going to,

they're going to kill all the real Americans. You know, they're going to kill this goofy, like fake memo they put out said something like they're going to kill

all the Trump voters. How are they going to know who those people are? Those people didn't even self-identify at the polls you have to put a big red tea above your door antifa here oh no we gave it the office okay we're gonna go okay fine how many antifa members do they think there are no that's the thing is that that people want to believe this and you're just like i mean there's like fucking a couple thousand of these people and nobody's better armed than the Trump voters. Antifa is going to show up and they're going to be like,

we're young and idealistic and generally angry. And they're going to be like, I'm a hillbilly with a hat. You got to get the fuck off my garbage land. I'm a hillbilly with a hat and an arsenal. Right? Yeah. Hang on a minute.

I'm bristling with firepower. Exactly. I'm bristling with firepower and not a lot of an arsenal. Hang on a minute. I'm bristling with firepower. I'm bristling with firepower and not a lot of brainpower. This is my jam. Everybody has a way of interpreting them to be the truth or not true. There's no such thing, unfortunately, more of fact.

Speaking of not a lot of brainpower, this is from the Hill poll. Holy shit. Vast majority of Trump voters says he should still stay in office even if Russia colluded. Even if the collusion is proven. Even if it's proven. Even if the collusion is proven. Yeah.

They're saying like, yeah, well, he's still orange and he's our guy. I mean, some of these numbers are just shocking nearly 80 of trump voters said they think the president should stay in office even if collusion is proven between his campaign and russia i don't understand how now like i don't like to use this word but that is un-american as fuck oh yeah like that's un-american as fuck to collude with a foreign nation to steal the election, to subvert the entire democratic process, to shit on the integrity of democracy as a process itself. And then to be like, I still want the reward of it, though. You got to imagine how big a hypocrite you got to be. You know what I mean?

Like, you just got to. I'm a really big hypocrite. I still wouldn't do this. The thing is, like, look at what happens when fucking... You know, when Harvey Weinstein gets accused by a bunch of people, it's not that the left is like,

at least nobody I know is like, uh, whatever. No. Abandoned. He's a good donor. Whatever. You know, whenever anybody comes out on the... Look what happened with Weiner.

With Weiner. I mean, when that guy was found out that he's texting some 15-year-old or whatever, you know, whenever anybody comes out on the, look what happened with Wiener, with Wiener, I mean, when that guy was found out that he's texting some 15 year old or whatever, immediately he was ejected, just get out of here. Ejaculated or ejected? I don't know, you got to read his text, you got to read his text to find out, but you know, he was immediately just taken out of the party, forget it, you're not part of this group anymore, we're not, we don't care about you. Go away. But like a lot of times when it happens on the other side, they circle the wagons around this guy.

And they'll just be like, they don't care, especially when it comes to like somebody really big like Trump. They're just like, oh yeah, well, it doesn't matter. Whatever comes out. Why do you think that is?

Why do you think so? But could you imagine, flip this around and say, any Democrat was found colluding with Russia? Look at how much they want to talk about the Hillary connection with the uranium, all that bullshit thing, right? Look at how much they want to connect that stuff. And you're just like, Oh my God, for real. Hillary is the most talked about candidate that did not win the presidency ever. You know what I mean? Like, you know, when like Bob Dole

didn't win, everybody forgot about Bob know what I mean? Like, you know, when like Bob Dole didn't win, everybody forgot about Bob Dole. Immediately. Immediately. When McCain didn't win, everybody forgot about McCain. Nobody thought it. But it's funny because

even people on Fox News and Hillary pointed this out when she was being interviewed, they refer to it as like the Hillary administration. They will admit, they will talk about bad things that have happened

and blame it on her administration. She's like, I was never president. It's funny, though, they will. Right. Because and it's because, you know, it's not that I think Hillary is is is an angel. And it's not that I don't think the Democratic Party itself is not a train wreck, because I think it is. And I think that they have a lot of explaining to do with how they tried to make sure that Hillary was their candidate

and all that stuff that went on there. And now Donna Brazile's got a book out and she's talking about all this stuff that went on behind the scenes and whatnot. So there's a lot of things they have to answer for the Democrats. But as big a dumpster fire as it is, it is nothing compared to what's going on. It's a fucking landfill fire on the right.

Exactly. It's a horror show. It's fucking Horizon 7 or whatever that is. What was that? Deep Water Horizon or whatever. The one that's in the ocean that fucking shat out all the million gallons of oil. Lit on fire and all that, whatever it was called, that thing.

Yeah, right. Like, their party is just a fucking, it's belching oil into the world and just, like, fucking lighting it on fire and just be like, who cares, fuck! And on the other side, on the other side, it's not, I mean, it's bad, but it's not that bad.

And I'm not, I don't even really consider myself when I think about like, as a Democrat, I don't think of myself as a Democrat. I think of myself on the left, but I certainly don't think of myself as like, like a Democratic hardliner. Like, I don't think of myself like that. I know I'm on the left, but I don't think of myself as a hardline Democrat guy. And I, and I, and I do see the problems with the party. I do see that there's issues and that if they continue

to marginalize people and do that sort of thing, they're going to lose again. Yeah, I know they are. Strategically, they actually are. They're going to keep losing over and over and over again if they don't get their shit together.

Yep. And finally, Mr. Speaker, I'm flattered that you're all so interested in my vagina, but no means no. Sister, I come from Rewire. A Catholic hospital pressured women to bury their fetuses

and then Pence made it law. And it's like, what happens if Trump gets impeached and you got Pence, right? Yeah. You got Pence. So it's just, it's horrifying. Now they're talking about like,

some people like these fetal burial programs and it's like, great, they're talking about like, you know, some people like these these fetal burial programs. And it's like, great, if that's your thing, that's what they want to do. That's fine. You know, that's you. You're allowed to do that. You're allowed to do whatever the fuck you want. Right. If that's if what's going to bring you comfort in a time of of personal grief is to bury this, this, you know, fetus or whatever,

however you decide to memorialize it. Fucking that's your thing. That's your thing. But to force it on people. To turn it into law so you have to do it? Right. What a horror. This woman in this story is inside a Catholic hospital,

St. Joseph's Regional Medical Center in Indiana. And she winds up having a miscarriage. And the hospital chaplain comes in and asks her several times, you've got to bury this child. Here's the plot information, et cetera. And she's like, no, I don't want to do it. And then they send in like the closer chaplain or whatever. Right, et cetera. And she's like, no, I don't want to do it. And then they send in like the closer

chaplain or whatever. I know. Like the chaplain, the heavy chaplain. Like the one that's going to come and be like, here's how it fucking is, huh? I'm going to tell you what's going on. It berates the other chaplains. Like, hey, put that coffee down. Put that holy water down. Holy water is for closers.

A, B, C, A always. B, B, C. A, always. B, B, C, closing. Close the deal. Get the fuck out of here. A, always. B, cesarean. Well, you know, it's even more egregious, right?

Because in the case that they cited this woman had a miscarriage, she wanted to send the fetus, fetal remains off for testing, right? Yeah, right. She's like, I'd like to not have another miscarriage. I'd like to figure out what the fuck is wrong. If there's something I can do, and sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. But like, she wanted to send it off and be like, yeah, this is, this makes me, I got the big sads. And so, nope, we're going to bury it instead. And you know what? You know, what's fucking so infuriating about that is that right there. Is basically saying, I'm going to decide how you get to grieve.

Yeah, right. The the woman, the woman had a plan and thought, you know what? I'm going to choose this and it's going to be how I grieve. Right. You know, it's going to be how I cope with this grief is I'm going to send this off to a lab, get it figured out. And it's going to be my coping mechanism to deal with this difficult time in my life. And instead, the other side is I'm going to make you bury this. And this, I'm going to determine how you're going to cope with that.

God damn it. I'm going to choose your coping mechanism. And your coping mechanism is there's a little plot in the, in the land that you can put flowers on and cry around. Well, but, but even, you know,

even, even in addition to that, it's like she is being shorted, potentially valuable medical information, very important information that could cause, could stop this in the future. And it could, this,

this could, she could find something out from this that says, Oh, you know, it would be dangerous for me to get pregnant again. Getting pregnant again may hurt me, may kill me. Some women cannot carry.

Yeah. So, you know, or, you know, there's this other thing that I can do that might may, that might increase my chances. I don't have to go through this grief again.

Yeah. She is being shorted medical information that she has a fucking right to have. Yeah. Because somebody's like, well, I think you should feel sad the way I want you to feel sad. I want you to feel sad

exactly how I want you to feel sad. And I want you to memorialize your sadness so that you know forever how sad you are. And do you think, because I i do do you think a part of this is so they can sell fucking burial plots at their fucking local cemetery fucking a it is right fucking this is because it's a catholic fuck you guarantee it's a catholic fucking cemetery it's a catholic fucking hospital this is you know this is vertical integration that's what this is and then that's how they bury them up and down. They're small, real tiny.

It's put them in like a Kodak film container. Just a little. Like a hamster. They just flush them. There's just one toilet that everybody throws flowers in. Gary Busey said recently that Donald Trump would make a great president. Of course, he said the same thing about an old rusty bird cage he found. It's from the friendly atheist dot com Christian preacher.

When Donald Trump swears, he's just acting like Jesus. Oh, OK, here we go. Remember the sermon on the mountain? We said, fuck you all. Remember when he was handing out the loaves and motherfucking fishes? Remember when he waggled his dick at Peter? I mean, he did curse a tree. I remember when he grabbed Mary Magdalene's pussy. By the pussy, right?

So here we go. Why do you think there is this negative perception, especially even among some within the christian community what what do you think lends itself to that well he's an asshole right yeah he behaves badly and some people watch him do it like that's what it is yeah right yeah like i paid even the scantest amount of attention i had one hand over my eye and I still saw. I have what we call standards. They're low. I'm Republican. Nonetheless. Part of it is because he's still got rough language.

You know, he still has some of the Queen's character in his character. But what I say to people, I said, listen, if you have a problem with someone with rough language, then you're going to have a problem with Jesus because he spoke to the faithful. Like, we don't really know what he said.

Some other people wrote it down decades and decades after. Four different people. Right. Four different people wrote down very different stories. Very different stories. Right.

And they just wrote them down, what, decades and decades and decades after it happened, and they still remember verbatim what he said? In one of them, he's a Jew. In one of them, he's magic. There is. I mean, genuinely. In John, it's very magic. It's magic-oriented.

Is that a little zombies and everything after the resurrection? I don't remember exactly which one that was, but I know that it's very mystical and it's very, very magical. Is it more hippie? It's just more supernatural. Okay. As I recall, and this is just from my recall from when I was in college

and I had to read the four different testaments. And I only remember two of them because I remember how Jewish he was in one of them. Because all the other ones are kind of like, Was he just worried all the time? They do some Jewish stuff. But in this one, he's just like, yeah, super jewish hey kids how you doing i got these weird little locks i'm wearing this tuxedo mary is giving him a hard time following him around

everywhere exactly but it's yeah he's got to sell his car back to his mom it's this weird thing honey your health your health i'm being scourged ma i'm being scourged, Ma. I'm being scourged. This is leaving me. They're gonna mess up your hair. Make sure they use an antiseptic. But, you know, like, but he's he's very, like, all the Jewish traditions are in that one. Okay. And so it's very, it feels like

he is not not a Jewish person. He's a Jewish person. And the other two are kind of a mixture of those two things. But I remember, but like, they're very different. They're all very different accounts.

Yeah. Well, but I love the idea. And none of them, he's like, fuck you, bitches. This is,

this is the, this is the testimony of Tupac. Jesus did have perfect abs for a thug life right across there though Pharisees and Sadducees said you vipers, you snakes he referred to Herod as a fox and then there's

we call them animal names we call them animal names did he say to somebody consarnit is he the rootin and tootinest? The account of the woman, he called a dog. So, I mean. Did he call her a bitch?

You know, if you want to find a fence, you'll find a fence. Yeah. Yeah. Because he's giving plenty of it. Oh, all of a sudden we're getting a little offended by the littlest things. Like when he says, I'm going to grab him by the pussy. Yeah. Oh, all of a sudden we're getting a little, we're getting a little offended by the littlest things. Like when he says, I'm going to grab them by the pussy. Yeah. Oh yeah.

Just take offense at every little pussy grabbing. God, you people are so sensitive in your pussy and anything, but hopefully otherwise wasting a lot of time. I'm pumping away. I'm trying down here. I'm trying. This isn't for me. I'm giving it a whirl. I'm trying. This isn't for me. I'm going to tag

somebody else in eventually. Well, Trump, and I think, which alludes to part of the prophecy that God gave to him, is that he's a man of his word.

He says what he means and he means what he says. Well, what character does that imitate? This interviewer's entire interview style so far, no shit. Sounds like somebody repping an action. He's a chainsaw. Oh, my God.

I'm so nervous. I'm going to be interviewed by Bill the Chainsaw Harrison. That's an actual chainsaw on a desk. He asked the hard-hitting questions. He really brings... They put a little hat on him. He's just vibrating around the desk. It brings in his brother,

the outboard motor. I'm on the desk next to him. That's like the Ed McMahon sitting in the chair. It brings in his brother, the outboard motor. That's like the Ed McMahon sitting in the chair. Who is that? God. Yeah. God says what he means and he means what he says. Yeah. So I believe that God saw in the character of Donald Trump a fighter,

one that will stand into the face of the enemy. Because really and truly, the church has had its butt kicked the last 100 years, I'd say, or 75 years, we really have. When you look at the situation of this country morally where it has fallen to it's all he's doing it's astonishing let's talk about okay moral character of the country with the fewer like as years as the years goes on can we go back a hundred years violent violent offenses and violent crimes in this country have plummeted. We don't have child labor.

We don't have child labor. We have weekends off. Right. We pay people. Yeah. All the people. Women can vote. Black people can have jobs and don't have to drink out of a weird, skanky water fountain.

There's like safety standards in every place that you work. You can't accidentally fall into the smelting iron anymore. I was just like, Oh, Bill fell on the iron. And then the supervisor just, God wasn't going to have to have some mansy, wamsy,

love and peace kind of a president. Where would you find him in the Republican Party anyway? Right? Where on earth would you find a mansy, whamsy, peace and love? None of those people are for peace. They're all hawks. We don't have anybody that's been in charge that I can ever remember. Frankly, most of the Democrats are hawks too.

Right, that's what I mean. Well, I don't know of any, I don't, like maybe Bernie Sanders would have been the closest peace and love. But also,

can I just ask a quick question? What would be so bad about that? I don't know. Because I feel like peace is better than the alternative literally every time. And didn't all those

baby boomers go get high at fucking Woodstock? Where the fuck are all of you? Why are they so mad? They're all working for fucking DuPont right now. Jesus.

That's why. They're all at Lockheed Martin and DuPont. To get the job done. He headed to get Mike Tyson, a fighter. Someone to bite someone's ear off. And rape someone. I need someone. You know who we need to use as an example?

You know what we haven't had in the White House in a while? Sexual assault. That's what we need is sexual assault. Who can we get? Bite, bite, bite. Rape, rape, rape. Mike Tyson presidency. Ready to stick it in the glory hole?

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By letting them get shot. Whoa. So let's not misquote. No, no, absolutely not. This is Hans Fien. So he says in his blog, it may seem on the surface,

that's where the blood rose to, that God was refusing to give such protection to his Texan children, he writes. But we are also praying that God would deliver us from evil eternally. Through these same words, we are asking God to deliver us out of this evil world and into his heavenly glory, where no violence, persecution, cruelty, or hatred will ever afflict

us again. So when a madman with a rifle sought to persecute the faithful at First Baptist Church on Sunday morning, he failed. Just like those who put Christ to church and he shot 26 people, including a 17 month old kid. Yeah. He was doing that. So they'd get him to heaven faster. Right. That's the heaven to faster argument. And we've heard that.

We just keep hearing this argument recently. And even more so because it happened at a church. Right. Because I think that causes some requirement for explanation for some of these folks. Right. Sure. Right. And it's funny that it didn't when it was a black church. Yep.

Right. Yep. Yep. Yep. So fucking true. So true. Because when it was Dylann Roof. Yeah. When Dylann Roof shot up the black church, nobody was like, but they were in church. They should have been protected.

Right. It was like, yeah, but they were black. They were black. And we don't protect those guys. You know, it's a whole thing that we don't do. So, but they shot up a white church. So let's be clear what happened. Yeah.

They shot up a Texas white church. Sure. And that's like, like, this is like, that's their literal sanctuary, right? Yeah. That's, that's it. Yeah. And so now they've kind of got this moment where it's like, oh man, we got some explaining to do.

And the best they can come up with is, well, they all went to heaven. So it's cool. That's kind of it. Well, then wouldn't you say this is a failure that he didn't get everybody? Wouldn't it be a win if we nuked the whole fucking world and just sent us all to heaven right now? Like, at what point is murder no longer morally egregious

if you follow this example? That's true, right? When is it against, when would it be a bad thing? are no longer morally egregious if you follow this example. That's true, right? When is it against, when would it be a bad thing? If this is a win, if everything's, if every death is a win,

if everybody who dies is a win, then when is it not? And I think that their argument is if it happens in a church and they die in a church and they're praising the Lord, that's all good. Well, what if they were scared and praying, you know,

like Columbine, right? Right. Like you're hiding under your desk. You're terrified. I don't know why I'm using and praying, you know, like Columbine, right? Like you're hiding under your desk. You're terrified. I don't know why I'm using that as the name. Just any of these shootings, right? Sure. Any one of those shootings. You're hiding someplace.

You're terrified. You're praying as fast and furious as you fucking Vin Diesel praying, right? Yeah. Fast and furious. Sure. Guy Burson still shoots your ass. Does that count less?

Does the prayer count less because you weren't in the right building? I think it's the only way that they can logically get through this is to say that this is a win. So, but then, but I mean,

and I'm being actually kind of curious, like, does the building matter to these guys? I think it does. It has to. It has to. It matters to them

because I think that the rest of us go that don't believe say, well, why did it happen in a church? I mean, you guys do, like you think you get the order of protection. Yeah, you guys think you have protection and you don't. Well, doesn't this shake your foundation of of your faith is I think what a lot of people ask in this situation.

I personally don't. To me, it doesn't matter where it happens. Doesn't matter to me at all. This is a horrible act. It doesn't matter whether it happened, you know, in a street, you know, in a bar, in a car. You know, we could write a whole Dr. Seuss story about it,

how bad it is, right? So it doesn't matter where it happened. It's always awful. So I don't care that it happened in a church. However, I think that there are, that these people are self-aware enough to realize, like we tell people, you know, church is where it's at. Church is, we're safe in church and church is a sanctuary. And, you know, we, we say we have God's protection. And so I think that

they're aware enough to realize that, and they've got to make excuses for it. I have a question. When you were religious, what was, what was your branch of Christianity? But it was Catholic. You were Catholic. Did, did they, cause I was Methodist and I think I never got an impression now in an ass specifically, but I never once got an impression of the church was anything other than a building. Yeah. Your faith is what protected you. If something was the only thing that ever gave me that impression was the movie Highlander. thing that ever gave me that impression was the movie Highlander. So one other quick thing. He says in order to fully defeat

evil eternally, God has to let evil get some temporary victories, such as this weekend's mass shooting. So yeah, it makes him sound like God is raising a child. It's like, oh, you gotta let him win sometimes or he'll get dispirited. He won't play

Scrabble anymore if we don't. So we don't want to break the devil's spirit. You got to give him a church shooting once in a while. Don't let him say Kuflarb on Scrabble. He's not going to want to play again. Quijibo is a large, hairless North American ape. It's fine. You can play it. A lot of points. In the name of Jesus, we speak

that. Oramana Shandakaraba. No corremene bene. Jere kede burishida. Kede berasa. Hookah, chaka, hookah, hookah, hookah, chaka, hookah, hookah, hookah, chaka, hookah, hookah, hookah, chaka. I put on a feeling. I'm high on believing. And this story dovetails very nicely with that nonsense. This is Fox News.

This is Ainsley Earhart says church is the best place to be shot. Yeah. And that answers the age old question, because I know you've always been wondering if I'm going to get murdered. Yeah. Where is the best place? So where is the best place to get murdered? Oh, I thought you were going to say because she, cause she doesn't say best place to be murdered.

She says, yeah. Best place to be shot is a hospital. That is the best place to be shot. That's an absolute best place to be shot. However, you are the only person who wants to be shot at a hospital. You do not want everybody shot at a hospital. Just you. Just you.

Just you. Just you. Just you. You don't want a bunch of people shot. Just you. So if I'm choosing. That? You don't want a bunch of people shot. Just you. So if I'm choosing. That's selfish. No, I'm selfless.

I'm willing to take the shot. So here's the thing. Best place to be shot, hospital. Yeah. Worst place to be shot. I'm going to go with. Oh, I don't answer. Chipotle.

Oh. And the reason why is. Okay. They will just stand on your body to get to that burrito. They don't even care. They don't even care at that point. They're just like, there's a dead body

leaking blood underneath them. They're like, if that guy's not going to move, I'm going to step around him. Wait, I have a question about the Chipotle scenario. Is my order ready? Because I...

It'll... Something's eventually going to be ready. I'm just saying like, if I can make it through my burrito bowl and that's how I go out, you know, I'm like dying.

You got one little piece of barbacoa on the side of your mouth you're brushing in. Then yeah, it's not a bad way to go. Like a cartoon where it just spills out your stomach holes. It really doesn't matter what place it is in Chicago, downtown in the loop where I go to get lunch. It doesn't matter what the place is. Every single place is the most aggressive place you've ever been to, to get food because everybody is always looking for you to move very quickly. Everybody's the soup Nazi.

Everybody is just like, how much is this and this and this and this? What do you want in a bundle? And they get mad when you don't know exactly what you want or you hold up the line and everybody behind you, you will hear audible sighs. If someone's holding up the line, it was like you, you will hear audible sighs if someone's holding up the line. It was like,

oh, come on. That would be me, though. Like, come on. This place is busy. Figure it out before you get in line. Know what you want. Know what you want. You don't want to sit there being,

do I want the, do I want the barbacoa, or do I want the carnitas? Oh, my God. That's the, you ever go to a Starbucks, and somebody's like, I've never been to a Starbucks before.

No, I've never had that. What goes in the mocha frappe mochaccino? I don't know if I would like it. Hey, Helen, would I like a mocha caramel frappe mocha mochaccino? Oh my God. I would put coffee in a cup

and give it to me. I would drown that person in the coffee. And then the fucking baristas are just like so nice and so patient. And it's like, well, it's gotten there explaining it and the whole time everybody behind him is like dying. You're dying. You went to Starbucks because your head is pounding. You can barely remain vertical.

You're just, it's a fucking drug that we've all agreed to drink and say that we're not drinking drugs today. That's what we're doing. So we're all standing there like, ah, tapping our fucking arm. Like, come on, shoot it between my fucking toes. Here's the thing, Barista. I will

fucking swallow. I will swallow right now. All you need to do is pour me a cup of coffee. I'll let you see it before I swallow. You can set it on my head. I don't care. Whatever. Yeah. Jesus. All right. So let's play this fucking nonsense. Whatever. Yeah. Jesus. All right.

So let's play this fucking nonsense. Planted wound. Governor, you know. This is from Fox and Friends in the Morning. We've been reporting this shouldn't happen in a church, but I was downstairs talking with some people that work here that we all talk about our faith and we share the same beliefs. We were saying there's no.

Of course. You're a fox. You're all white. You're all wasps. Of course you do. You're a fox. You're all white fucking... You're all wasps. Of course you do. It's the P in wasps. Get the fuck out of here. We would want to go other than church because I'm there asking

for forgiveness. I feel very close to Christ when I'm there. So I'm trying to look at some positives here and know that those people... Some positives? I'm going to look at some positives. A 17- old baby. Is there any way we could turn that frown upside down? Oh, someone here is a sad Sally.

Looks like someone had a case of the Sundays. It's just stay home to watch football. No, Oh, no. You should stay home to watch football. Oh, no. You'd still be like, oh. Like that dude just like, fuck. I missed the game. I got shot at church. It's terrible.

Can we find a positive? Gotta look. There's always a silver lining in a mass murder. Where's your positive? Here's your positive. Gun control. Yeah, mass murder here's your positive gun control yeah right there's your positive jesus there's two dozen corpses littering the ground it's like okay wait but they're they were like when they came to the light the light was three steps closer yeah when they walked down the eternal path thing

When they walked down the eternal path thing. With the Lord now and experiencing eternity and no more suffering, no more sadness anymore. So you go get murdered. So it's so great. I hate that so much. Like they're not suffering anymore. They're not feeling anything anymore. They're dead. They would much prefer the alternative.

Look, I'm not suffering. I'm just alive. Like that whole message where it's like well there's no more suffering there's no more pain how bad is your life okay so what do you need besides a miracle guns lots of guns This story is from the Daily Mail. And this story echoes similar sentiments. This is the guy, one of the guys who shot at the gunman, shot the gunman. Shot the gunman. Actually shot the gunman. They got him.

They wounded him. They didn't kill him. They wounded him, a couple of guys. So they're calling this guy a hero. But the language that they're using, and I've heard this language a lot of times, is that some good guys with guns stopped the massacre. Yeah. And that's 100% not true. It's not true.

And we know it's not true because there's 26 dead people. Sure. He didn't stop anything. In fact, these guys confronted this motherfucker as he was leaving the church. As he left the church. That's a post-massacre confrontation. Exactly. The massacre was in the church.

Yeah. He just didn't get away. Like, he didn't get away. Maybe he would have gotten away a little longer. Maybe. Maybe. Who knows, right? It's speculation.

You can't know. Yeah. And they're also saying, like, one of the narratives is that this guy killed this guy, killed the person, the mass murderer. Absolutely not. And that's not true. The mass murderer killed himself.

Yeah. Committed suicide. They wounded him. He drove off and killed himself. And then he killed himself. Now he might've died from that other bullet. We don't know, but he,

he's the one who ended his own life. Right. Yeah. But you know, like we, this, this, there's a side that wants so much for it to be true.

Yeah. That good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns so the fact that this guy was shot by some you know citizen yeah they really love that story but they they're they're skipping the part where he was leaving the church after he murdered 26 people they didn't stop shit sure stopping things would have been he stood up he had a gun he threatened some people or whatever and someone shot him before he could kill somebody. That's when you, that's how you stop something.

Sure. Or if he shot one and was aiming at the set, you know what I mean? Yeah. But 26 fucking people are fucking dead. Yeah. And he was leaving anyway. He's like,

I'm done. I'm leaving. I'm out. How much do you have to love guns to like this narrative? You know what I mean? Like how much, how much do you have to like guns to like this narrative. You know what I mean? Like how much, how much do you have to like guns to like this narrative? And one of the things that people are saying is,

you know, they immediately said, we need some gun control. We need some assault, assault weapon bans, et cetera, and on and on and on. And,

you know, of course it happens every time there's, you know, this happens, people say it. And then there's two camps. There's the one camp that says, Hey,

you know, let's not publicize this. Let's not politicize these people's deaths. There's the one camp that says, hey, you know, let's not publicize this. Let's not politicize these people's deaths. Let's let these people be. That's the one side that wants to stop the conversation. Right. And then the other side of that is, well, there was gun laws that should have stopped them. We just didn't. It just it just slipped through the cracks. Well, and the third who insists there's no such thing as an assault rifle. Yeah. So there's there's there's several ways that that people quash this argument but the fact remains that these people are able to kill people on demand in this country pretty much at will yes this happens whenever anybody

wants all they need to do is have a modicum of planning and in this case can be mentally disturbed and still get guns. Sure. And, and, uh, and so this can happen all the time. This can happen every day. We could have one of these every single day. We could have multiples of these and it wouldn't change anything in this country. We don't, we've, we've decided we don't care. We've decided that the, the price of having a toy we really like, and that's for most

of us, what a gun is, right? Yeah. I mean, a gun is a us what a gun is, right? Yeah. I mean, a gun is a big boy toy for me, right? Sure. Like I've got, I have guns. You have guns. Me too. And I go to the range and I'll shoot and it's fun.

It's a recreational activity. It's effectively a toy. It's a jet ski or a boat or something like that. It's a toy. It's a big toy. That's all there is. It's a toy that makes a lot of noise. Yeah.

I put holes in a piece of paper with it, right? Like who cares? Or a blow up a target. Right, yeah, yeah. So we've said this toy is more important than you. We've said this toy is more important than your life and your life and your life and your life. I just want this more than I give a shit about you.

And that's the decision that we've decided to make. And like, you know, they're saying like, we don't need gun laws. This guy couldn't have gotten these guns because, you know, what he was, he was a guy who beat his wife he beat his wife he beat his domestic abuser right and so that should have disqualified him yeah from having a weapon and the air force knew it and the air force dishonorably discharged him and they should have reported this they didn't report it they dropped the ball that would have disqualified him he would have failed

a background check but what they're not also reporting is background checks aren't required for private gun sales. Yeah. I can buy a gun from you perfectly legally and there's no background check. Sure. This motherfucker could have bought this gun perfectly legally from a private seller. No problem.

No background check. He could have got a discount because it was used. He could have gone to a gun show and gotten a bunch of things because they don't require a lot of stuff there either. Right. And you can buy multiple guns, et cetera. Absolutely. So, you know, the problem in our country is the guns. The problem, the reason why people are getting killed by police officers, you know, a lot of people want to blame institutional racism. And I'm not saying that that doesn't play a part, but the real reason is the guns. The real reason is the police are afraid that people have guns and that's why they react the way they do. That's why in Canada, when you're

not allowed to have guns, like how we can have guns, people don't get shot nearly as often in Canada because the police aren't there. They don't think they're breaking the law and have those guns. Right. Well, you know, the thing is that even if you have institutionalized racism, if every traffic stop doesn't have embedded in it, maybe the cop got scared. Yep. And so then the cop is allowed to say, fear is my defense because fear is defense. Right. So I was scared of my, and the real, why are you scared?

Yeah. You're scared because maybe that guy's got a gun. Why? Because everyone's got a fucking gun. Yeah. So it's a reasonable fear. If you change the gun laws, even if you just change them

to like what Canada has, which is everybody can still have guns. You just can't travel with the guns with, you know, when they're loaded, they have to be in a box or whatever. And you can have them at home, but you just can't have them like the way we have, right?

You can't just walk around with a gun. Like you can't have open carry. You can't have concealed carry. And you can't certainly have it loaded in public. You have to have it taken apart when you travel. Maybe you just had those laws, right? Even if you just had those laws in place, that way when you see a guy with a gun,

you immediately know he's breaking the law. But you immediately, there's no question on whether or not, because like you get those assholes who walked down the street with the fucking M16 or whatever on their back. Right. You know that guy's breaking the law.

Like you know it. You're 100% of the that guy's breaking the law. Like you know it, you're 100% of the time you're breaking the law. There doesn't need to be a conversation. And so, and you know, you make gun crime enough of a penalty

where people won't do it. And the thing is, is like, like we can, we can stop, we can stop a lot of the things that happen in this country when it comes to violence

against people that are afraid in that situation. And then these sort of, I mean, look at what's happened in Australia once the, you know, they had the Port Arthur shooting. I think that's what it's called. And then, you know, after that, there has been a few shootings since then. But they've been in the small, they're small numbers. They're not 40 or 50. They're five and six.

And there has been people who died in mass, but we're talking about stabbings and small arms that, again, you can shoot a couple people, but you can't shoot like a million people with it. Yeah, it's wildly different when you can, and there are other things we can do. We can regulate ammunition differently. We can regulate clips differently. There's so many solutions or things that we could do to help ameliorate this problem. Yeah. We're not going to do anything.

Not going to do anything. We're going to do nothing. Later this year, when this happens, we're going to do nothing. Next year in 2018, when the biggest mass shooting happens again, we're going to do nothing. In 2019, when the biggest mass shooting happens again, we're going to do nothing. And in 2020, when the biggest mass shooting ever happens again, we'll do nothing. We don't give a shit. And we're going to look at each other and we're going to be like, I tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas.

Right. Yeah. Right. We're going to Ned Flanders this shit. Mine eyes have seen the glory hole whilst coming with the Lord. And he's rubbing out a vintage since his girth is quite engorged. He hath loosed his seat, an immaculate stream from his terrible, stiff sword. His truth is just BS.

Glory, glory, glory, ho! Glory, glory, glory, ho! Glory, glory, glory, ho! His truth is just BS. This story comes from Channel 10 News somewhere. My glasses aren't on. I can't read it. Florida church changes sign after message.

And I think this is bullshit. Misinterpreted. Come on. As sexual. Okay. All right. Bella Vista Baptist Church. Here's what your sign says.

Nobody's misinterpreting this. This is a message to the pastor's wife. You know that it is. I don't know. You know that this is. This is the pastor writing a passive-aggressive note to his wife using the church sign. Here's what it says. Forgiveness is swallowing

when you want to spit. Maybe it's a passive-aggressive note to his dentist, Tom. I don't know how that relates to forgiveness at all. You had said to me a while ago that you love it when things like this happen because all it would take is a 10-year-old Right. Like all you need around you, if you're thinking about putting

up a sign, it's just, you have to have a 10 year old boy read it aloud. Yes. Read this aloud and tell me if you think you can make it, you can make some sort of innuendo out of it. Right. Because 10 year old boys are great. Right. And so our podcast hosts are great at making innuendo out of this thing. All you need to do is just have somebody who's qualified, like a 10-year-old boy, read this out loud and be like, no, you can't put that out. It doesn't pass the snicker test. Does it? Exactly.

You read it. Did you snicker? Yeah. Because what they're going to tell you every time is, no, no, that's cool. Yeah. I guess that's true. But if you hear it in his voice. Right.

Okay. That's good. Yeah. Come the fuck on. It does not pass the 10 year old. This guy wants his way. That's he's saying that whoever put this thing up, whoever wrote this,

I guess I should say that differently. It doesn't pass the 10 year old boy test. Sounds a little weird for church, especially when it's talking about swallowing and spitting. So I don't want to say that, but, but yeah, I love that.

I love that. They're like, whoopsie doodle. You're like, come on. How the fuck do you not know that what kind of charm what kind of fucking sheltered ass life do you lead and they say in the article

like that they're like oh it's just an innocent mistake I just it was an inducement for people to forgive yeah no it's a request for someone to swallow I'm Raymond Massey and I have a special It's a request for someone to swallow. I'm Raymond Massey, and I have a special message for senior citizens. Today's doctors, drugs, and medical devices truly work medical miracles for young and old alike.

But there are some as phony as a $3 bill. Investigate before you invest in health services or products. Help stamp out quackery. All right, this story comes from KQED. Future of you, health stories for a new era. Premier U.S. hospitals are selling unproven alternative therapies. You know, this is part of the overall movement in hospitals to promote a like complementary or holistic approach to medicine where you can go and you can get things that work and then you know you can go

next door to their fucking reiki and the garbage therapies yeah all in the hospital and you know one of the huge problems that is that's embedded there is that people look to a hospital as a authority right whatever happens in the hospital has that veneer of medical authority around it. It's official. Right. So if I go and somebody fucking juggles my aura's balls or whatever, then I think that that worked

because it happened at the hospital. In part of this article, it says, just in the past year, the teaching hospital connected to the University of Florida began offering cancer patients consultations in homeopathy and traditional Chinese herbal medicine. Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia launched an institute whose offerings include intravenous vitamin and mineral therapies. and mineral therapies. Oh my God. And University of Arizona, a pioneer in the field,

received a $1 million gift to boost practitioner training in natural and spiritual healing techniques. Well, they're saying too, like Duke University's podiatry program. Yeah.

You can get like detox, like foot detoxes. Do you remember? Well, you did the foot detox. I was going to say. You put those vinegar patches on your feet. This is like,

this is from our Everyone's a Critic Day. Yeah. We used to do those vinegar patches on your feet. This is like, this is from our, everyone's a critic day. We did, we used to do this critics on con section. And we first started talking about skeptical issues. Yeah. And, uh, they were selling at the time on TV, these detox foot patches where you put a piece of, it's like a, it's like a bandaid you put on your foot and it would turn fucking all kinds of hairy looking colors. Yeah. And those were the toxins that it was sucking out of your body, but it, were the toxins that were sucking out of your body. But you put them all over your body. Yeah.

I bought like a dozen. Yeah. And I put them on my nipples and I put them on my belly and on my back and on my arms and my legs, my feet. I put them all. I just covered myself like a fucking mummy in these things. Yeah. And they all turn the same shitty colors. Some of them, like the ones on your shoulders didn't, but it was any place that you sweated.

Yeah, right. Like it was any place that was, that was sort of moist. And then you guys, you and, and it was your ex-wife at the time had taken a control group. Yeah.

And just got it wet. And just got it wet. And they turned black. Turned the same black. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's fucking nonsense. I don't understand what the thing is

about like your biscuits leeching out all your toxins. Like why does it, why does it come out of your, isn't the soles of your feet, aren't they like thicker than the rest of your skin anyway? That's what I was going to say. Mine are like covered in fucking like hobbit calluses. Like, wouldn't you want to put it like, like, wouldn't all the toxins just flow out of the thinnest skin in your body? Like, why wouldn't it be like on my balls or like, or like, actually my balls are pretty thick, but like, and certainly not. I mean,

like I know my cock is thick from like all those years of working. But like, well, the skin is, that's all it is. It's just all skin anyway. It's like a deflated balloon. It's sad.

It's a little thing, but, but like, it's like, I never grew my own clitoris, but it's like, it's like, oh, he's got a tiny little trunk, but, uh, but like, wouldn't it be like on the inside of your arm or something like where it hurts to get pinched? Ow, fuck.

Don't pinch me there. Any place you don't want a tattoo. Exactly. Any place you're like, no. fuck, don't pinch me there. Like any place you don't want a tattoo. Exactly. Any place you're like, no, ow, fuck. My whole body? God. Yeah, this is, but, and you know, the thing is, is that you're right.

These places seem like they have this aura of credibility and authority. And one of the things that we talked about before which you know we have sort of defended hospitals for is that you know if something was going to sell wouldn't they sell it is what we used to say all the time yeah you know what i mean we used to say that all the time like if people were like yeah well vinegar cures cures disease if something's going to work something's going work, why wouldn't they sell it to you? And, you know, the reason, you know, that logic doesn't follow through here because this stuff is not, there's been many, many studies on a lot of these different things.

You know, when it comes to acupuncture, no credibility. When it comes to homeopathy, no credibility. Chiropractic, no credibility. When it comes to studies, you studies, they've done massive studies on a lot of these things. Reiki, Chinese therapy, fucking burning sage up your ass, all this stuff that they've done

all these tests on, but they're still going to sell it to you. Oh, yeah. You know, the thing is like, it seems like what's happening is the hospitals have realized that they can cash in on it, right? And so they want to cash in on it. And I think, you know, it would be tempting to say, like, well, what's the harm if it makes people feel better?

But the problem is there are going to be people who abandon the regular course of efficacious Western treatments and just continue to pursue the other treatments that probably are vastly more comfortable. If somebody says like, Hey, do you want to go in this, like this room? That's going to smell nice. I'm going to play nice music.

I'm gonna spend an hour of my time, like being kind to you and listening to you and like touching you gently or whatever, like in a massage or whatever. Or do you want to go get chemo where you sit and it's this miserable experience and you're fucking hair falls? I want to stop you though because in the article,

they go out of their way to explain this. And they say that one of the guys says, and he's very careful to say, that this does not replace traditional treatments. And they're very careful to mention that if they're getting chemotherapy, that they mention that that is the thing that they should be getting, not the other thing. And they make sure to mention that if they're getting chemotherapy, that they mention that that is the thing that they should be getting, not the other thing.

And they make sure to mention that whatever counter, like, like, um, they make a point, I'm going to read it directly. It says, and they make a point of coordinating care with other doctors so that for instance, patients don't get prescribed herbal supplements that might interact badly with their chemotherapy. But don't you wonder if like patients themselves won't just react and say... Yeah, I mean, it says that the guy is careful to say that they can supplement, but can't replace conventional treatments. So the hospital is saying, I don't know what people are doing,

and I don't know what people are choosing. And like you say, you're right. What would you rather have? Would you rather have somebody who is giving you something that is to to sort of fuck you up enough to hurt the cancer or is it are you or do you care if like somebody's just burning incense and making you feel good i understand where you're coming from but the as it stands right now the hospital is going out of the way to say conventional treatments are not replaceable right which is good it is but if they're saying that and they're saying out loud conventional treatments are not replaceable. Right. Which is good. It is. But if they're saying that and they're saying out loud, conventional treatments aren't replaceable,

they're saying that these are, that these other ones are not as efficacious. These other ones are bullshit. They're saying this works. Don't stop doing this. If you want to supplement it with the shit that doesn't work, that's fine. What would worry me? We'll take your money. Yeah.

But again, what worries me is that I think it's just human nature to do the things that feel good. And I can see people abandoning the hospital program entirely and saying, I learned from the hospital that Reiki works and I can just go to the Reiki practitioner down the street instead of going to the hospital for it. I learned from the hospital that acupuncture works. Yeah. I mean, I, maybe if, maybe if the person doesn't care about what true things are or doesn't look into it, yeah, maybe. Yeah. Or just believe, like people believe all

kinds of things that just appeal to them rather than are accurate. I know I would never do that. I know if I was sick and I went to the hospital and they said, yeah, we got this brand new Reiki thing, I'd be like, I don't think, because I've had doctors, I've had doctors say to me, um, do you want me to dry needle your leg?

Like, do you want me to like throw some dry needles in there? And I'm like, is that like acupuncture? Like, no, it kind of just does this. I'm like, no, I'm okay. Yeah. And you know, there might be something to it and there might not be, but I've never heard of it. And I've never heard of it as a, as a, as a conventional treatment.

So I don't care. And I've had doctors want to send me to the chiropractor for my back. And I'm like, no, I'm good. I'm okay. And I've had doctors, I've also had doctors ask, do you want to go to the chiropractor? And I say, I don't think that they're efficacious. And the doctor would be like, I agree with you. I'm just supposed to ask that.

So, you know, like, like, but I, but I think that there's a lot of people, I don't, I don't know what a lot of people think. I don't know what the average person thinks about their own health. But I know I want to do the thing that is the most efficacious. If I had cancer tomorrow, I would want to make sure that I did the thing that cured it, not what felt good. Right. Well, I agree with you.

I just think you're a skeptic. And I think that there are a lot of people who might go to that hospital, get introduced to the idea of Reiki, then go down that road of alternative medicine and start reading and find it online. And then say, you know what? Right. And then maybe they say, oh my gosh, I can, you know, and then I went down this website. And then maybe they don't like Reiki Dr. Owens, and they like Reiki Dr. Smith, and they're down the road,

and now they're going somewhere other than the hospital. It just seems like, why open the door? Why use the credibility of the hospital to open the door? Best part about that article is Steven Novella's part, because Steven Novella is decrying it. That's horrible. He's part of that article, and he's absolutely decrying it. And good for Steven Novella to be out there. decrying it. That's horrible. He's part of that article and he's absolutely decrying it.

And good for Stephen Novella to be out there. You know, he is a doctor. He's a neurosurgeon. You know, very respected doctor. And he should be the one leading the charge to decry all this. You want answers?

I think I'm entitled to them. You want answers! I want the truth! You can't handle the truth! This is Right Wing Watch. Sandy Rios. Officials may be lying about Texas church shooters, atheism connections to Antifa.

God, here's Sandy Rios. All right, let's do it. Here we are with another terrible, terrible thing that happened. I would just say, I would say this as a practical matter.

Remember, I told you probably a month ago that and now this is just speculation on my part but antifa again this is i love she does this all the time yeah every time she's like i'm about to wildly speculate some things that i'll then later state as if they were true yes yeah i'm going to give you a bunch of things that are not true as facts. Antifa. You know, when she says that, she sounds like she's talking about her mother's sister. Right?

Oh, it's Antifa. She's here. Oh, Antifa. She's your Vietnamese aunt. Oh, it's Antifa. Her soup is great. PHO. Yeah.

I was planning on having some sort of an all-out assault on American soil. I believe... Discredited, not true. You believe things that are just ridiculous. Fake news! It was November 4th, and there was an article that I read.

I thought I printed it out, but I didn't see it this morning. Why was that relevant? I thought I printed it because it's the past and I still print things. Then I lost it. Printed it. I asked my scribe to put it's the past and I still print things. Then I lost it. Printed it. I asked my scribe to put it in the manuscript and he didn't do it.

I printed it out. I took my carbon paper out and I wrote it so I could have a copy. What I did is a lot of times I mimeographed these things for everybody. About how that didn't happen too bad. I think it was supposed to be Saturday. But I have

to tell you, I... I think it did. It didn't happen. It totally happened. This is not the thing. The thing you think that they said they were going to do, they didn't say they were going to do because you just were misled by because you're a credulous dipshit and don't fact check anything. But then also, this still wouldn't

qualify. It was on the wrong day, first of all, and it's a totally different, yes, it's violent. That's literally the only thing that it has in common. I wonder if the law enforcement

is ever honest with us, if there isn't some involvement with Antifa in this. With law enforcement? Can I? Well, I think, don't these guys love police? Aren't they like law? Can I? Well, I think. Don't these guys love police?

Aren't they like Blue Lives Matter people? No, I don't think that they think that the police are orchestrating it. I think what she's saying is that the police are trying to protect us from it or they are hiding it, hiding the knowledge that Antifa did it

or on Antifa. Now I'm saying it like her. They're hiding the knowledge that they did it, but they're not with them. I think that, I don't think that that she's, she's accusing the police of being in part of it, just that they're hiding the knowledge from it. But why would they do that? I just feel like, like these are the same guys who are the same crowd of general voices that decry like black lives matter all the time. Right. And they right and they they talk about like disrespect for

authority this this group and they and they talk about law enforcement in glowing terms yeah when law enforcement is is is sort of pitted against brown people right because anything about the brown and then but then right now it's like now law enforcement is a tool of some shadow government antifa yeah like you know what i mean like it can't be all these things based on the way this guy dressed uh the way he responded his atheism his hatred what are you talking about he he responded with his atheism and hatred responded to what i guess killing people in a church is atheism i i i guess but again like what did he respond to he didn't respond he wasn't provoked yeah there was no provocation to which he

responded he's also a guy who volunteered at a sunday school i mean it could be personal but it also could be antifa and i have or it could be space aliens and elephants we have no idea to tell you also this is a story. I'm not actually going to go into this because, but I will mention it. I don't want to be detailed. It may not be true. Look, I just want, I'm just going to mention it. I don't want to stoke the fires of wild speculation.

If anyone has a bellows called wild speculation, now's the time to pump that bellows. You know that the Las Vegasgas shooter do you recognize that what did anything ever happen with that anything ever happened with this girlfriend do we know anything more really and truly they're still investigating yeah it's like i'm kind of like yeah that's crazy it's a conundrum we don't know we just don't know okay sometimes we don't get to know what happens in people's minds. Sometimes people don't leave us clues ahead of time or after the fact

as to why they do the things that they do. Sometimes we're just surprised. And at a certain point, why spend so many resources in this? It's not like you're going to prevent it. You're not going to do anything to prevent it. You're not creating any systems after you find out why the guy did it

to change anything. You're not changing mental health systems. You're not, you're not creating any systems after you find out why the guy did it to change anything. You're not changing mental health systems. You're not changing, you know, the, uh, you know, if he's, let's say he was, he was mad about, uh, the way in which the, the, uh, the court system worked or whatever it is, right. The way the gambling system worked out there, nobody's going to change anything based on that. Nobody's going to do it. So what are you even care that at this certain point, the guy's dead. You're just like, well, I guess we don't know. I guess we'll just never know the end. Yeah. You know, you

got a good point. There comes a point where you just have to say, and a part of me says that point is immediately. Fucking immediately. It's like, what difference would it make if we're not going to act on the motivation, if we're not going to act on the intent, and we know we're not, right?

We never do. So fucking get out your broom and clean up the fucking shell casings. Never fucking do. And hand the bodies off to the relatives and let's just go on to the next mass murder. Call that company that comes out and scrubs the blood off shit,

that aftermath, whatever. Call them up, have them come up and clean the gore off the carpet and call this shit a night. them come up and clean the gore off the carpet and call this shit a night. So, uh, we're not going to have an email section this week because email, uh, we, we, we wound up recording a couple of shows in a row. We're going to have a big long email section when we come back. Remember to put dogma debate on your, uh, the, the third or the and 3rd of December on your calendar to listen to, and 10 a.m. on the 3rd

to listen to me and possibly no illusions do a little bit. I'm not sure if he's going to do it or not, but we'll see. On Dogma Debates, 24-hour broad podcast-a-thon. Check it out and save up your coins for modest needs to donate during that hour. We'll be matching money. We want to end today with one email. We're not going to do a bunch of email, but we do have one email we want to end with today. Tom, we want to end with a skeptics creed from Lisa. Now, Lisa says she was listening to the backlog. Someone had sent in a translated skeptics creed from Swedish that turned out to be totally fake according to Lisa. This was clearly an American reading off Google Translate. So since no one seemed

to correct the error for the sake of the beautiful language not to be misinterpreted on the show, Lisa hereby presents the skeptics creed Swedish version. And so we're going to play it for you now to end the show with the Skeptic's

Creed. Pseudo-halftalternativ, akupunkterande, trycksatt stereogram, pyramidformat, fri energi, helande, urvattnat, nedåtgående, spiral, hjärna, uttryckslös, säljsnack, infodocutainment. Torn, taråkort, psykiskt helande, kristallkulor, storfots, geti, utomjordingar, kyrkor, moskéer och synagoger. Tempel, drakar, enorma maskar, atlantis, delfiner, sanningssägare, konspirationsteoretiker, häxor, trollkörare, vaccinidioter, schaman, helare, evangelister, konspiration, tvetydighet, stigmata, nonsense. So badass. She fucking killed that. She did, but like, nonsense is a cognate? How the fuck does that work? There were a handful. There was a handful of cognates,ates. Well, there's some that

you just expect to be. Infodoc, you take. Some of these, they're just nonsense made up words, but nonsense? I know. That's a cognate? That's weird. But yeah, it totally killed it. And I will say, you know, the skeptics creed has

to be very hard to read, but it sounds like it's fucking exponentially hard to read in Swedish. Yeah, that was pretty awesome. Very nice job. That was great. The opinions and information provided on this podcast are intended for entertainment purposes only. All opinions are solely that of Glory Hole Studios, LLC. Cognitive dissonance makes no representations as to accuracy, completeness, currentness, suitability, or validity of any information

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Where are you going? How's that even possible? I don't know. I'm not even drinking or anything. I'm just sitting here. Body stay hiccup machine. I hate my even drinking or anything. I'm just sitting here. Body stick up machine. I hate my body so much. My body's garbage.

I hate this thing so much. Why can't I just get the new one? You just need that floating ball light model. That's what you need. I like having a body. It can do all kinds of shit. But I want one that I don't loathe every part of. You know what I mean? I just want one that I can look at and be like,

all right, that's all right. I can deal with that. Right. Can I have one I'm just ambivalent toward, please? I still want it. Instead of one that I'm just like, a garbage body. Yeah.

You ever look in the mirror and you're like, no, I never do. That's what I look like? No. No, I don't. No. You're like a vampire. Fuck that.

You just smash every mirror in your home. No, I just look the other way. I have a whole wall of mirrors, I just look the other way. I have a whole wall of mirrors and I walk backwards into that room.