Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 388: Trump Card

Episode Date: November 27, 2017

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of Cognitive Dissonance is brought to you by our patrons. You fucking rock. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. recording live from glory hole studios in Chicago, this is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there is no welcome mat. This is an episode. It is an episode.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Of Cognitive Distance. Now there's a reason. It's not just because I get this wrong all the time. All right. It's not just that reason. It is somewhat. There's part of that reason. We're using the word just intentionally.
Starting point is 00:01:14 It's partially that reason. Sure. But I have an excuse like I always do. Like I frequently carry with me my pocket of excuses. And this is a prerecorded episode. Yeah. Look, we don't want to leave you guys in a lurch while we're away. Cecil and I are going to be going to
Starting point is 00:01:27 Australia. We're taking some time off, a couple of weeks. Cecil earned it. I'm just piggybacking on his hard work. He's true. That's true. It's never not true. That's real. It's just never not true. I do nothing or less than that. Less than that. As often. Mostly. That hurts. Very much less. I can come after me. I don't want
Starting point is 00:01:43 you coming after me. Delegate well to Megan. Yeah. So we're taking some time off and we need to record some shows. This is one of the shows that we're recording in the future. So you're listening in the future to the past. We're recording it in the past for the future. That's true. We're not recording in the future. This is episode
Starting point is 00:02:01 400. Probably not actually. 380 something. Let's go 388. Let's go 386. Okay. That's your guess. We could do the math and figure it out. It would be 387, I think maybe. All right. I'm going to go 388 anyway. Because I like to get it wrong. We go 388 miles an hour and we go back in time. Well, we're going to go like forward or backward. We crossed the dateline. Yeah, the dateline is going to be crazy. How does that work? We leave on a Friday or on a Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:02:31 We show up on a fucking Friday or some shit. We leave on a Friday. Our plane crashes on Saturday. Then the smoke monster eats you on a fucking fizzle day or some shit. I want the smoke monster to eat my ass. That's what I want. So he's blowing smoke up your ass. I like it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:45 That's what I want. That's what I want. I do's blowing smoke up your ass. I like it. You know what I mean? Like, that's what I want. That's what I want. I do want to get rimmed by the smoke monster. Toss my salad, smoke monster. I'm just saying, like, a rim job by the smoke monster. Spread your cheeks. Tickle. Get some baby wipes. Spread your cheeks. Baby wipes is polite. It's a smoke
Starting point is 00:03:01 monster. Like, it's not going to get fucking E. coli or something. Yeah. I mean, he smoked worse things like briskets and things. It's smoke. Like what has he got? Like a fucking immune system I have to worry about? Yeah, he's not going to get E. coli from my ass. Fucking get in there. Get in there, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Don't be shy. It's probiotic, motherfucker. And don't just go outside the edge. Like I want you fucking in there. No, you got to go in. You got to dive in. Just, you got to go in. You got to dive in. Just poke. Got to dive in.
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Starting point is 00:03:51 AIDS is God's judgment for perversion. There's a guy on the screen right now in a YouTube 16 by 9 whose beard does not fit in the 9. It's like the beard gets cut off on the 9. So this is Phil Robertson. He's on another show. It's called The World Over.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Real quick though, like by perversion, he just means gay sex. He just means gay sex. And he just means male gay sex. Yeah. Let's be honest. This guy jerks off. This guy is jerked off to lesbian porn.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Yeah. At least a hundred times. Yeah. He's probably got lesbian porn hidden in his beard. It's like a... If I had a beard like that, I would have phones in there that just always had running lesbian porn. If I had a beard like that,
Starting point is 00:04:29 I'd hide in a cuck blind. It's a little different. Uh, we've, we're seeing a slew of women all over the country coming forward with sexual harassment claims against people like Harvey Weinstein. Now we love sexual harassment claims when it's against a Democrat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:44 So much when it's Bill O democrat yeah so much when it's bill o'reilly like nobody talks we didn't know who's going up bill's fine yeah right it's those assholes at fox yeah a guy pays 45 million dollars to settle lawsuits and it's like oh it's trump we don't care right hanging chad they don't give a fuck. They're like, who gives a shit? But it's the Hollywood liberals and it's like, what? Now it's Hollywood liberals. Yeah, right? Now it's like, what's wrong with America? Exactly. It's the same
Starting point is 00:05:14 shit that was wrong. It's the same shit that's always been wrong with America. It's always been wrong. And it will always continue to be wrong, not only with our country but with every country. Right. I don't know that we ever get past this. I don't think we ever get past
Starting point is 00:05:30 this. Journalists, politicians, people who are in the public eye. Your thought? That dude is so ugly. Harvey Weinstein, the only way that guy could get sex is by beating off in front of somebody.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I mean, look at that guy. Wait a minute. Is that sex though? I don't know. If I beat off in front... It's sex with you. That's not sex with me. Well, it's sex with a person.
Starting point is 00:05:53 If somebody beats off in front of me, I'm not counting that. I'm not like knocking the bedpost. You're on the train. You're just like... You're like,
Starting point is 00:05:58 I'll count it. I'll allow it. You're like sitting there like, wait a minute. Am I still a virgin? I don't know. Yeah. Well, you're like sitting there like, wait a minute. Am I still a virgin? I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Well, they squirted on me. Is that, yeah, right. I had to bring a poncho like a Gallagher show. He's a guy who looks always sweaty and disheveled.
Starting point is 00:06:16 He does. Like he's always got his shirt unbuttoned, but not casually, He looked like he's constantly trying to catch a train. He doesn't look like a guy who's like,
Starting point is 00:06:24 oh God, my fucking body is shitty. Or he's fleeing the scene of somewhere. On whether this might change the behavior or is the way this is being approved. What behavior? Nobody
Starting point is 00:06:37 approves of rape. Nobody approves of sexual assault. Well, rapists do. A very small demographic. Yeah, sure. And there's like five smoke monsters out there that eat ass, too. You know what I mean? There's not a lot of them. Again, none of them returned my calls. None of them.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Well, they ate once. I ain't going back. I'll maybe shower. It's the bourbon shits that they don't like. Bitch, bitch, bitch, smoke monster. Fuck you. What, do you got better choices? Are a lot of people swiping right on bitch bitch smoke monster fuck you what do you got better choices are a lot of people swiping right on you smoke monster eat my ass but but this like like there's no behavior to change like the change of behavior is nobody accepts this type of behavior anyway yeah this
Starting point is 00:07:19 type of behavior is universally reviled by everybody right so you go out and you fucking whip your dick out in front of somebody and you whack off in front of somebody. Everybody's just like, nobody wants that. Nobody, like, unless you're at like a fucking, like the back room of a porn shop or something, like that just doesn't happen in real life.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Like, unless you're in a place where that's accepted, right? Like you're at fucking like, I don't know, like Eli Bosnick's den or something. Like then maybe it's accepted. The hedonism resort or something. In normal circumstances it's not accepted anywhere. So it's not like you can go, like people are like, oh man, you know, this Harvey Weinstein really brought this fucking
Starting point is 00:07:53 jerking off in front of people to the fore. Nobody's fucking thought it was awesome anyway. This isn't anybody's Christmas card. Nobody's like, nobody's Christmas card. Greetings from the Johnsons. And it's everybody's Johnson. You open it up
Starting point is 00:08:09 and it not only plays music, but it squirts on you too. It's like a joke card. Croached. Going to just lead to a different manifestation. Well, you have to ask your question. You have to say,
Starting point is 00:08:23 folks, can you believe it? There's rank sexual immorality in the White House. Perversion coming out of all places. Are you all ready? Hollywood, California. It comes out after the perversion. It kind of drips out of there. Yeah, it's gravity.
Starting point is 00:08:42 What are you going to do? Get a towel. I don't know what to tell you. You just got to lay down. You just got to lay down. You just got to make sure you get the rubber sheets. Rubber sheets, baby oil. Doesn't even matter in the morning. White sheets plus bleach. You're fine.
Starting point is 00:08:53 It doesn't matter what you do. Is this a stunner or what? Oh my gosh. The people in Hollywood are fucking, you know, it's like they're just saying all the people in Hollywood are all rapists. It's like, yeah, well, like we said before, it happens everywhere. Right. Well, but even if that's what he's saying, because I don't even think he said, like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:09 I mean, I agree. Like, it's not, this is not surprising. Right. The fact that it's not surprising is the problem. Yeah. Right. It is the problem that this sort of sexually aggressive and inappropriate harassment behavior is so
Starting point is 00:09:24 ubiquitous. Yeah. That is the actual problem. Right. The fact that it's not uncommon is the problem. Sure. We should all be upset about the fact that this isn't uncommon. Sure.
Starting point is 00:09:38 It would be an amazing world we lived in if this was like, whoa, nobody does that. Yeah. Like, holy shit, someone was harassed on the street. Oh my God, that woman was catcalled for being alive. Yeah, exactly. That would be a great world. That would be a great world. The thing is
Starting point is 00:09:56 that like, and I'll admit to being guilty of this, like that's the world that privileged people who don't have to deal with that shit think we live in. Yeah. Because we don't have to deal with that shit. Like, I. Yeah. Because we don't have to deal with that shit. Like I'm never going to get cat called. Right. It's never going to happen.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And like I've, I've up until relatively recently, like, and by recently, I mean a few months ago, I never even heard somebody cat called. I've never heard anybody. I don't live in the city.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Yeah. So that changes things. Right. Nobody cat calls you in the target parking lot. It doesn't happen. So I don't hear it. And I've always been a suburban guy. I spend time in the city.
Starting point is 00:10:28 But when I spend time in the city, I'm usually going from my car to work or, you know, an appointment, something like that. And if I'm in the city with a woman, she's usually, I mean, she's with you. So nobody's going to do it. Nobody's going to catcall. So I've never heard it before. And I actually heard it for the first time just a couple of months ago. Like I was standing outside with Haley and somebody catcalled a woman who was walking by like the doorman of the hotel that we were staying at. And she's like, see, it happens.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I was kind of flab. I was like, oh, yeah, I had no idea. But I I get to have my hope. The whole point of this is like as a dude, it's not going to happen to. Yeah. Like I get to live my life entirely blissfully unaware of this thing ever happening. Sure. When in fact it happens fucking constantly. And that's the point. And the, you know, the problem is, is, and I know that there's going to be somebody who's listening,
Starting point is 00:11:13 who's going to say, well, what's the big deal, right? What's the big deal of somebody calling out and saying something to a woman when you scream out of a window or whatever, and you say, Hey baby, whatever. The problem is, again, you're looking at it from a guy's perspective. Most guys are 20% larger and have way more muscle mass than a woman. Think about it this way. If you're a dude and you're wondering about this right now, you're just wondering about this right now. Think about if you were in a situation where there was a bunch of dudes, all guys, and they were all way bigger than you and they cat called you.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Right. How would you feel in that situation? That's a good point. You know what I mean? Like, like, you know, I,
Starting point is 00:11:51 I, I would be, think about it like in prison, right? You're in prison. There's a bunch of big, strong guys all around you. You're just like,
Starting point is 00:11:58 like, you look good. You're like, I don't want to be here. Like, you just like, I mean, just think about it.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Would my voice go three octaves it would solitary confinement for me please yeah i'm a cutter i mean like what i would but the thing is is like just and that's the thing is and this is what's going around a huge in the atheist community at least now is this empathy thing right people are like well be empathetic just think about it just think about it. Just think about it for 10 seconds. And I'm not going to make a big statement about how this is the worst thing in the world
Starting point is 00:12:30 or how this is, you know, it's super terrible, but just think about it from their perspective just for 10 seconds. Yeah. And think about what it feels like. Look, all you have to do is look at the sexually transmitted disease rate. Mm-hmm. Center for Disease Control for disease control the fact that it's
Starting point is 00:12:48 going down no it's going up is it absolutely going oh i didn't know that oh yeah it's going up oh i didn't know yeah and i looked it up because i was worried i was like wow is he is he telling the truth or not so i looked this up i thought it had been going down for years so uh gonorrhea has increased by 18.5 okay that's just in. Syphilis has increased by 17.6. Congenital syphilis by 27.6. Holy fuck. Chlamydia by 4%, almost 5%. And I found an article that talked about why this is how,
Starting point is 00:13:16 like, why is it happening, right? Like, why is the sexual transmitted diseases going up? And they gave five reasons. And I'll read the reasons very quickly. I'm floored right now. The first reason is there's been a rise in condomless sex among men who have sex with men. So that's something that has been happening more often. Uh, STDs are spreading more broadly into populations that weren't traditionally affected like babies, uh, with the rise of dating apps,
Starting point is 00:13:40 it's more readily, it's more readily available and anonymous, which makes it harder for health investigators to track outbreaks. The numbers may be higher because we are better at detecting cases in some groups. And finally, and I think this is one of the biggest reasons, cuts to public health funding mean fewer STD clinics. Fuck. Because they had, I'm not wrong, They had been declining for a long time. I think they probably had. Yeah. And,
Starting point is 00:14:06 and now they're on the rise. They're on the rise again because, because of specifically because of like, I, and I think, I think those are all really sound reasons, sound reasons why this is happening. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Um, you know, and the thing is, if you read those reasons though, to Pat Robertson or Phil Robertson, whatever his name is, Duck Dynasty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:24 If you read these to Duck Dynasty, he would be like,on, whatever his name is, Duck Dynasty, if you read these to Duck Dynasty, he would be like, okay, I don't like condomless sex among men. So he says he would immediately be like, that's a punishment from God. STDs are spreading more broadly into populations that weren't traditionally affected like babies. Again, he would probably say
Starting point is 00:14:39 that's a punishment from God. Rise of dating apps, sex is more readily available and more anonymous. Again, this punishment of God. Numbers dating apps. Sex is more readily available and more anonymous. Again, this punishment of God. Numbers may be higher because we're better at detecting cases in some groups. That's a wash. He would dismiss that. Just dismiss it.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And then cuts to public health funding mean fewer STD clinics. He doesn't like people with STDs anyway, so he thinks that they probably shouldn't have these. Except your punishment. Right. Exactly. It's your punishment. And that's problematic, too. accept your punishment.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Right. Exactly. It's your punishment. If it is, and that's problematic too. Like, these guys who think that STDs are a punishment from God,
Starting point is 00:15:10 they're not going to fund these kinds, because if you are being punished, you accept your punishment. Right? Like, I'm thinking about like when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:15:18 If my dad punished me, the expectation was that I was going to accept that punishment. Right? And I fucking did. Because if I didn't, he'd double or triple down on whatever it was that I was going to accept that punishment. Right. And I fucking did because if I didn't, he'd double or triple down on whatever it was that was coming down the pipe. Right. If he grounded me for a week and I went out anyway, I'll be grounded for two months.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Sure. Right. Just solid. He'd be like, I grounded you for a week. You didn't make it seven days. Yeah. Enjoy the next 60. Right. A hundred percent true. He would have done that. Sure. These guys want you to accept your punishment. And if syphilis is your punishment and it comes from God, fuck you, enjoy syphilis. You deserved it, right? Because you can only get punished by God
Starting point is 00:15:57 for things you deserve to have. What's interesting though is that they also think that masturbation is a sin right they also think that me beating off is a sin and i can't get fucking an std unless i fucking beat off with a caught off leper's hand or something like i don't know how i don't know how you get that is that's not it's weird it's niche it's niche not don't Let's not kink shame here, Tom. Okay? But, you know, seriously.
Starting point is 00:16:28 I'm going to kink shame that one. No, that's fine. I'm going to kink shame that one. I'll give you that one. It's like a cat's paw. I'll give you that one and it'll take a little too. Give and take. Give and take. You don't get STD from this, but it's still sexual immorality in their opinion.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Masturbation. Yeah. You know, looking at pornography, whatever it is that gets you off. That's still sexual immorality in their opinion, masturbation, you know, looking at pornography, whatever it is that gets you off, you know, like that's still sexual immorality, but it's, but that one is like, oh, well, I guess since he didn't come in contact with anybody, naturally God can't do anything about it. Right. You know, I think like the sin of masturbation, a lot of these guys are getting away from that. They don't talk too much. Yeah. I think that if you were to ask them, sure, but there's, they're not making like, they're not making a big, a public deal out of it. That's true. Yeah. It's true. But they're not making a big deal out of it. That's true.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Yeah. It's true. But it strikes me as a little inconsistent. It is. Yeah. But how the fuck would you police that either? You know? Right.
Starting point is 00:17:12 You want to argue with me? Well, look up the Center for Disease Control. I know their stats. I check them from time to time. 110 million. To answer your question, 110 million. You just check one stat? Is it monostat?
Starting point is 00:17:25 Is it? Yeah. Americans at any given time have a sexually transmitted disease. Worldwide, almost 40 million, 35 to 40 million individuals are now deceased because of AIDS that's caused by perversion. Wait, having sex, a man having sex with a woman is perversion? Or like, I mean, is he saying that drug use is perversion? Yeah. Because that has nothing to do necessarily with sex and sexuality. There's a lot of ways you can get.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Getting a transfusion is perversion? And there's a ton of people that are just born. Yeah. And they're just born HIV positive. So like, what was their perversion? Like, I mean, I guess they touched a vagina on the way out. Sure, yeah. Fucking gross. Fucking. born yeah and they're just born hiv positive yeah so like what was their perversion like i mean i guess they touched a vagina on the way out sure yeah fucking gross fucking nasty vagina touching babies like what the fuck like making it talk on the way they come out and just give it a slap on
Starting point is 00:18:19 the x there you go behavior i'm not making this up You say it's dangerous to your health. Well, yeah. So to answer your question, just look at the sexually transmitted disease rate and say, you know what? This is really, they receive in themselves the due penalty for their perversion. See? Yeah. Yeah. He's totally, yeah. He's talking about gay sex. He's talking about, but he's, you're right. He's talking about gay sex he's talking about but he's you're right he's talking about gay sex that's what he's that's a hundred percent what he's talking about sure because it's they and and also sex out of wedlock i think he's probably talking about too you think so or do you think it's just i i think so i think that these people all just talk about sex they talk about all kinds of non-marital sex no matter matter what it is, as perversion. What if you have sex,
Starting point is 00:19:06 but you only have sex with married people? That is sex in wedlock. I mean, they're in wedlock. They're in wedlock, sure. It's not your wedlock necessarily, but it's someone's wedlock. It really is physiologically debilitating.
Starting point is 00:19:21 So I think... Disease? Yeah, disease is physiologically debilitating. It sure is. Disease is physiologically debilitating. It sure is. Zero out of ten doctors recommend diseases. You don't go in and get disease samples from the doctor. The doctor's never been like,
Starting point is 00:19:35 have you tried disease? You're getting migraines, but would you really like some pus leaking out of your penis? No, that sounds terrible. Well, have you tried chlamydia? Here, we'll just inject you. I don't know what it does. I don't know how pus comes out of your penis? No, that sounds terrible. Well, have you tried chlamydia? Here, we'll just inject you with... I don't know what it does. I don't know how pus comes out of your penis. I don't know what sexually transmitted disease
Starting point is 00:19:52 causes that, if any. The Weinstein thing, everyone needs to remember, he can be forgiven. We all can. So it's not like they're in a trap. I think that's a problem. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Let's talk about that for a second. If Harvey Weinstein is guilty of all that stuff, I don't want to forgive him. I want to be like, no, you're a scumbag. Christians have a forgiveness problem. They got to get over that shit. Forgiveness is problematic. Forgiveness perpetuates this kind of behavior
Starting point is 00:20:25 by saying like, you can be a terrible person and then later decide, oh, I feel sorry about it. And now it's okay. It's not okay. What you did was never okay. No amount of I'm sorry's and gosh darn shucks is ever going to make that woman less violated. Right. Right. It's not. And there is no, woman less violated. Right. Right. It's not. And there is no, there is no after the fact rationalization or moment of emotional catharsis that is ever going to say you didn't do these things. You didn't hurt people. You didn't victimize these people. Right. You're a bad guy because the things you did. Sure. Those things reflect on your character. If you do things like this is not, and it's not the same thing as fucking up with good intentions and apologizing or even being like, oh, it slipped my mind.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Like those are not things that require forgiveness, right? Even if they might require an apology, right? Forgiveness is character defect. Forgiveness is I hurt somebody. Forgiveness is you cause somebody grief and harm. Those are things you need to be forgiven for. These guys are too ready to forgive. I can't forgive. No, you can't forgive somebody. I can't forgive Harvey Weinstein, right? Yeah. Because he didn't agree with me. Sure. So
Starting point is 00:21:35 I have no business forgiving. Right. Right. Like I'm not in that equation. Right. Right. So if somebody is, is, is, behaves morally reprehensibly and then they change. I think it's entirely reasonable for other people to meet that person, the new version of that person and be like, yeah, I mean, okay, I'm willing to say the person I know versus the person from their past, they're not the same. I don't think I'm the same person I was 20 years ago. I know that I'm not. But I also think if I am the aggrieved, first of all, I have no responsibility to forgive. And then I also think that, to be perfectly honest, and I can only speak for myself, were I severely aggrieved by someone short of forgetting that it happened?
Starting point is 00:22:33 Yeah. I could never truly forget. I might not be angry. I might let go of that. I don't want to walk around with a bunch of anger. But just because you're not angry doesn't mean that you're that that you don't see that person and think less of them because of what they've done and if you do think less of somebody you haven't forgiven sure yeah they can't get out of right we remind people sin's a problem
Starting point is 00:22:56 and i mean it can really cause you some physical debilitating disease is why you're here. Yeah, so sin causes that. Not having sex. Right. Just sin in general. Just sin. Just whatever. Like what? Like graven images? Sure. Looking at your neighbor's ass or his wife's ass. My neighbor's ass? Mediocre best. He's just not my
Starting point is 00:23:20 guy. I do like my neighbor's donkey when it's in the naughty secretary outfit. I will say that. The nice thing? Hot. Those ears. Yeah. Those ears. In the naughty witch outfit. Big fan. There you go. Naughty, gorgeous woman wrestling outfit. Love that one. That's not. That's a good one. Yeah, that's a little muscly
Starting point is 00:23:35 for me. That's a good one. Oh, a fucking donkey is a fucking muscular creature. It is. You just got to embrace it. Donkey does hella squats. Donkey's coming off the top rope. Sin's a problem, and physical death comes to us all. We are all going six feet deep in a hole, as surely as I'm sitting here. Or cremated and scattered out across some pond.
Starting point is 00:23:59 You say, Jesus comes down, removes our sin, guarantees we can be raised from the dead by his resurrection. What a weird belief. What a weird belief. So I had this meat that I was in my whole life, and this meat then falls apart and dies, and my meat that was me isn't me anymore. And then suddenly Jesus comes back and does reparative surgery,
Starting point is 00:24:23 and boom, there you is with Jesus. Like that's a weird belief. I do. I do honestly think like there's, if you strip away all the, the flowery ancient language and you just say out loud what most of these, any, I've never heard one that doesn't, what these religious beliefs are. Yeah. They all sound insane. Yeah. They all sound totally crazy. It's, it's, it's the obfuscating language of antiquity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:51 That makes it seem viable to some people, I think. Yeah. Because it's confusing and you're like, wait, what the fuck? I got to look up all these, these and that.
Starting point is 00:25:00 But if you just say like, write down. Yeah. Unlike what he just said. Right. What he just said. It sounds crazy. That's the walking down. Yeah. What he just said. Right. What he just said. It sounds crazy. That's the walking dead.
Starting point is 00:25:07 We made a show about that. That's not a good thing. Right. It's like, it's almost like you want to be like, explain it to me like I'm a space alien. Yep. Yep. And then if you do, and it doesn't sound insane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Maybe I'll bite. Yeah. Right. But I don't know one of them that doesn't sound insane. And that's the thing is like when I used to believe that stuff, it was never that it was a physical body that was getting raised up. No, I never understood that. Like raising
Starting point is 00:25:32 me from the dead. Like that sounds, when he says that, that sounds crazy because I always thought like, well, when I was religious, I always thought like it's like the movie Ghost when he gets fucking killed and then he stands up and he chases after the robber and then you come back like, oh, fuck, that's my body. And then you're like, oh, I'm not in it.
Starting point is 00:25:51 You know what I mean? Like and then so I always thought that there was like just like the movie, like the movie goes to the guy gets hit by the car and his ghost ejects out of his body or whatever. It's like that's what I always thought. I was like, oh, yeah, just like you just eject out of your body. And now you're just like, this is me. I'm really me. That's just the me. And then I'm gone. And that's what I always thought. I was like, oh yeah, just like you just eject out of your body. And now you're just like, this is me. I'm really me. That's just the meat. And then I'm gone.
Starting point is 00:26:07 And that's what I used to think. Like I was, I was like, there was a, there was a ghost inside of me, a spirit inside of me that would just disappear. I guess I always thought that that was the traditional religious belief is that your non-corporeal self is the thing that lived on and the meat just returns to the earth. That sounds like he's talking about like, you know, the meat. Tell people that and I say,
Starting point is 00:26:29 listen, if you have a better story, what is it? Here's my better story. That didn't happen, nor will it happen. That's my better story. I just wrote it. It literally took me two seconds to write it.
Starting point is 00:26:42 None of that's going to happen. That's my better story. Watership Down is a better better story like it's about rabbits that talk and have wars dude fucking eli's blog is a better story no it's not yeah you see there are demons in the earth read matthews mark's gospel chapter five there are demons all over where Jesus cast out demons when he walked the earth. Alright, this article is from The Sun. The devil's work! I know. U.S. Catholic Church plans
Starting point is 00:27:12 to translate exorcism how-to guide into English for terrified priests. I wonder if they have that in it like it's just images and there's that confused Ikea guy that the shelf always falls on. That guy's just images and there's that confused Ikea guy that the shelf always falls on that guy's just like
Starting point is 00:27:27 he's got like a cross and like there's a pentagram like fucking like a cartoon demon is coming at him and it's just like he's like erka erka erka it's like a fucking 800 the Vatican number that you can call and it's like oh I can't fight it myself get two
Starting point is 00:27:43 Ikea guys to fight the demon there's somebody's head spin around and you see all the question marks around his head like you're like paging through it's like there's got to be a version with words fuck like god hate this fucking thing i don't think in pictures you get the catholic priest on the line he's like i didn't draw the diagram sir i'm. I want the how-to guide. Yeah. But I want the quick start version. Sure, sure. The one that's
Starting point is 00:28:11 before the user manual, the one the quick start version. Can I ask you a question? When you buy something and it comes with a quick start guide and then like a 47 page fucking manual, have you ever gotten to the manual past the quick start guide? I don't normally look at a lot of guides
Starting point is 00:28:28 or manuals, to be perfectly honest. I don't either. And if I have to look at something, it's the quick start guide. Of course. I've never had a thing where I've been like, I went through the quick start guide and then moved on. Just give me the quick start guide. I will say that I read all the manuals for all the
Starting point is 00:28:43 audio equipment in here, but that doesn't... I still don't understand it audio equipment in here, but I still don't understand it. I just read it, but I didn't understand it. I bought a pressure cooker and it had very specific instructions on how to set it up. Sure. I didn't follow any of those. And the house didn't explode. Everybody's dead. There's an interesting comment in here.
Starting point is 00:29:00 It says the number of exorcisms taking in in the u.s that doesn't make any sense the number of exorcisms taking in the u.s is estimated to have quadrupled in the last 10 years so i'm guessing the number of exorcisms that have taken place in the u.s and i think that's a there's a corollary between the number of ghost shows that have also occurred because there's like like that that's not just quadrupled. There's entire channels. There's this Destination American channel that Sarah watches. Every single show, Tom,
Starting point is 00:29:29 I'm not even kidding. Every single show is a ghost show. Is it really? Every single show is a ghost show. Is it really? Every single show. They got Ghost Brothers. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Is it hosted by ghosts? It's hosted by three black guys that are like, oh, hell no! The whole time. I'm not even kidding. I'm not even kidding. That's what I would watch.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I I've seen the lineup. And so what it is, is, uh, it's brothers. Yeah, no, they go in,
Starting point is 00:29:55 they go in fucking like investigate houses. So they'll go to like one of those places and be like, Oh hell no. The fucking EPG thing, bro. They're like hitting each other or whatever. You know, like, so, so these guys, these guys go do a thing. But then there's also like the ghost stories.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Cause there's like 10 other ghost stories. There used to be celebrity ghost stories or whatever. I thought that show was funny as hell. And that show cracked me up. They did. They did a dozen more of those. So now it's like my ghost adventure and my ghost, uh,
Starting point is 00:30:26 my ghost apocalypse and my ghost, this, whatever it is, it's like a million fucking shows. And then there's also the lock us in overnight shows. And there's like 10 of those different shows where they like lock them in an insane asylum after dark or something. Really?
Starting point is 00:30:38 Like, like, so this guy cut up his girlfriend and put her in the oven. We're going to stay the night in the house that he did it in. And so then they stay the night and then they could do like the fucking readings. And then they're like, somebody will be like,
Starting point is 00:30:48 here are boards. Like, what is that? What is that? And it's like constantly, what is that? What is that? What is that?
Starting point is 00:30:54 What is that? And so you just see these guys there and they show them like they have like fucking night vision cameras. So I was like fucking popping up. So it's like fucking, it's, and you know, these guys are like shouting.
Starting point is 00:31:05 It doesn't matter whether they're shouting like regular or Latin at the darkness. It's always Jesus at the darkness. And that's the other thing that people don't understand is that not only have these shows increased, but look at every single psychic show. Look at every single crossing over show. Look at every single one of the ghost shows. They all revolve around Jesus. Whenever you want that ghost to go back, you say Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. In Jesus' name, I send you. It's always going back to Jesus. It never is like, in Allah's name, I send you somewhere.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Or in fucking like some pagan god. Carl Sagan's name. Exactly, yeah. Get the fuck out of here. And, you know, I invoke Pi Day or whatever. You know, it's like, it's just fucking, it does not. This whole world is demon haunted. It doesn't.
Starting point is 00:31:49 It doesn't, no matter what it is, it doesn't matter. And it's like, it's always Jesus. It's always Jesus. And look at those psychic shows where the woman is always like talking about, you know, that medium, that Long Island medium. Always talking about Jesus constantly. And then, so, so this is, and it's because it's our culture, right? I would imagine, and I don't know if this is true, but if you are in another country that doesn't, that Christianity isn't the main thing, and they have these shows, are they shouting Allah be gone? Or are they shouting?
Starting point is 00:32:18 I bet they don't have these shows. They probably don't. I don't think. They don't allow this kind of thing. I don't think they do. But again, like, I'm wondering, like, is it another culture? Like, is it another culture? Is it a culture? What if it's an Asian culture and they're doing this? What are they shouting
Starting point is 00:32:28 at the darkness there? What about Jews? How do they get rid of it? I'm actually being serious. What's the Jewish equivalent? Is there a Jewish equivalent to possession? Yeah. I don't know fucking dick all about Bible demons or whatever.
Starting point is 00:32:44 I know that in the New Testament, there's plenty of demons. They pop into pigs and, you know, Jesus chucks them off a cliff and all that kind of garbage. But, like, I wonder, like, is that stuff primarily a New Testament sort of reading? Yeah. I wonder, too, if it's more culturally Christian countries that do this. if it's more culturally Christian countries that do this, although I know for sure that in the Quran or in the Muslim culture specifically, because when I was doing,
Starting point is 00:33:11 I remember doing a comparative religions class where it talked about it. They have the jinns and ifritz and things like that that are like- But do they possess people? I don't know. I have no idea. I didn't get that far into it.
Starting point is 00:33:21 So I don't know. But it's interesting that the thing that gets them away here in our part of the world is the, is the popular, most popular religion, not one of the other religions. And I wonder if that's the converse in another area of the world, you know, that the most popular religion is what you use against those. You know, I wonder if that idea of demon possession doesn't have some root in a desire to find a way not to be responsible for your bad actions. Doesn't it seem very
Starting point is 00:33:53 evidently constructed? I think more it feels like a way that an ancient people would define either a mentally challenged or insane person. Right. That's how I see demon possession.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I guess I, I know. I, so I a hundred percent agree with you. I'm thinking more of like the sort of like modern incarnation of the micro demons. Oh, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:18 Like we have, we have all those, like all the little demons now, like the demons of, of, of I done cheated on my wife. Right. And the demon of,
Starting point is 00:34:27 you know, I eat too much fucking fried food and the demons, cause there's demon, like people will blame demon possession for every poor life decision that they make. Sure. Right. And then, cause it's,
Starting point is 00:34:40 it's sort of, it's sort of the sin and salvation issue, right? Like it's a demon, the demon's gone. And now it wasn't my fault in the first place, and I'm forgiven, and I was never responsible in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Right. Right? There's so much responsibility shirking that's part of this. It's so funny for like a guilt-based religious belief. Yeah. They have so many get out of I done did it cards. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:02 It's kind of amazing. Yeah, for sure. There's always a wild card, something new I can get out of trouble for. Now, here's what I want you to understand here. He says, look, when you sacrifice a child to an idol, you are sacrificing that child to demons. That's the word that's used right here in the scripture.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I looked it up in the Hebrew lexicon. You know what that word demon means? It means demon. Well, it's a good thing that there's a how-to guide, Cecil, because this story's from the Huffington Post. Catholic priest conducts spiritual cleaning of Las Vegas shooter's hotel room.
Starting point is 00:35:34 So, somebody let that guy in. Yeah. You know, like, pause and think about that for a second. Somebody was like, oh yeah, we gotta get the maid in here because there's blood all over everything. That's kind of gross. And there's fucking carpets all burnt from the fucking spent shells and what have you.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Oh, we also got to get a priest in here because there's fucking bad juju in the fucking bed sheets or whatever. Sure, sure. Where does, where does, where do the evil, where does it live? Is it in the air? I don't know. Is it in the, like. Where do the evil, where does it live? Is it in the air?
Starting point is 00:36:03 I don't know. Is it in the, like? Well, in this story, this guy says, this priest goes up to the room, and he says he felt like something was pushing him out of the room when he went in. So evidently the room itself still had either had something, in his opinion, that was a residue of the demon,
Starting point is 00:36:23 or, you know, there was something there that was pushing him out of the room. So there was a residual spirit. Maybe she just coughed. Well, I'll tell you what, in 10 years, they're gonna upcharge for that room. I guarantee it. Look at all these other murder
Starting point is 00:36:39 rooms. And I don't know, maybe 10 years is a little short. But look at all these, I mean, every single murder room or scary room is a hundred, $200 upcharge in every single place all across America. There's haunted tours and haunted, you know, haunted rooms that you can upscale and pay up a lot of money for. So they're going to, this would be one of those rooms. It's a mass murder room. God damn. There's a chance. I would expect a discount in that room, but you're right. There's a chance that
Starting point is 00:37:05 they'll upcharge. Now, I guess initially they probably won't. Right. But there's a chance that they're going to upcharge for it. A long time ago, I worked in a building and there was a dentist's office next to my suite. And the dentist's office had an employee who quit. And I
Starting point is 00:37:22 guess the employee was troublesome in some way or whatever. And no shit. The dentist hired the building security to come in on a Sunday, shut the fire alarms and everything in the entire building off, block off my floor so that nobody else could go on it and had somebody come in and do a cleansing with sage burning sage. And she,
Starting point is 00:37:44 cause remember I weren't used to work like a million hours. I worked like seven days. So I'm there and it's like a Sunday and it stinks. Stinks like a fucking turkey or something. It does. It's like somebody burnt Thanksgiving dinner and I'm like, the fuck is going on? And I go out there and there's a fucking medium
Starting point is 00:38:00 or whatever. I don't know. She's pretty large, but she said she was medium. I'm not, you know. And she's not a medium. I was like, you know. She's not a medium. I was like, honey, uh-uh. No, no, no. It's like that sage came out of the turkey from her car. I don't want to waste it.
Starting point is 00:38:19 It smells like turkey grease, ma'am. So they saged it up, huh? Yeah, she did it. She was doing chanting and stuff and she was shaking her sage through the hole because I guess the guy, like he had a toxic employee or something who wanted to rid the
Starting point is 00:38:35 building of her presence. Sage smoked her out. This fucking magical thinking, he should just revise his hiring practice. This is a waste of time and money, right? What he should do is be like, I'm not his hiring practice. Like it's just a waste of time and money, right? Like what he should do is be like, I'm not good at hiring. Yeah. I made a bad hiring choice. I need to get a consultant to help me make better hiring decisions. I need to learn how to, but we don't solve our problems. So many better ways to do that. There's so many
Starting point is 00:38:59 better ways. Like we're not going to have any gun control. We're going to have magic solutions to scary rooms. You fucking kidding me? We're still, in a year, we'll still be able to buy a bump stock. In a year, you'll still be able to buy 48 guns at a gun show. Right, right. And 10 million rounds of ammunition. And then nonchalantly bring that up to your room wherever you're at. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Yeah, of course. You know, it's interesting, too. They talk about how it's a demon, right? How there's a demon here or there's a, I got to go and do this exorcism. It's because I think that people don't want to believe that we're capable of this, right? We're humans are capable of this, but the converse is also true. How many times do people hear, oh, you're an angel. Oh, you're my guardian angel when you do something self selfless that happens too right there's all this like like humans are sort of like this this
Starting point is 00:39:51 you know in their opinion is just this sort of like middle of the road you're not capable of the really good and you're not capable of the yeah right the divine has to intervene it's in some way those two things are escape not in our grasp it's you know it's the middle of the road shit we're fine at but when it comes to you know being selfless that's not you that's you being possessed by some sort of angel and then if you're being selfish in a very horrific way like this guy was you're being you know you're possessed by a demon we can't presume that human beings are capable of those things like do you think you think that the, I don't, I feel like the demon thing is way more. Oh, I think it's way more. Right. Than the angel. Sure. But I want to play just a quick example.
Starting point is 00:40:35 I'm on a Facebook group. That's for Ishmael's podcast, actually. And one of the moderators of that group told a story about how she was walking down the street and she saw a homeless woman who was out in the rain, cold and shivering. So she took her coat off and she said, here's my coat and my last $13. You can have this. And she just had 13 bucks on her. Here's my last $13. And the lady said to her, well, I don't want to take your last money. And the lady who is in the bulletin board is like, it's not my last money.
Starting point is 00:41:02 It's just what I have on me, but you can have it. You know, like just have that money. And the lady said, you must be an angel from God. You must be an angel. And then she gets corrected because the woman who's giving her these things is an atheist.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Right. And then the lady who's getting the, the woman on the street who's receiving them is like, oh, I always thought you people were stuck up. I always thought that you wouldn't care. And her response was, no, we care just as people were stuck up. I always thought that you wouldn't care. And her response was, no, we care just as much
Starting point is 00:41:28 as everybody else. Anybody else, right? Yeah. We care just as much as everybody else. And that's this, you know, so, you know, I've, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:34 how many times, you know, like I've given money and they'll say like, you know, God bless you or, you know, those sorts of things. Like the charity part of us, that part of us,
Starting point is 00:41:43 religion takes the credit for that. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's sort of the Santa Claus problem of us, religion takes the credit for that. It's sort of the Santa Claus problem, right? Like all the best gifts come from Santa. Right? And it's like, Santa isn't real and does not have a credit card. And Santa doesn't have to work to pay this credit card off.
Starting point is 00:41:57 Right, exactly. There ain't no fucking elves working hard. No elves are pulling fucking long shifts. You know what I mean? Santa waking up in fucking February on a Wednesday when it's 200 degrees below zero to go to work. Exactly. Fucking Santa. Fuck that guy. Ready to stick it in the glory
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Starting point is 00:43:04 us. You fucking rock. Oh my God. This is fucking nuts. This is great stuff. This is from Right Wing Watch. This is fucking nuts. This is Carl Gallup's.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Trump allied pastor says women are sexually assaulting men by dressing provocatively. Yeah. All right. So here we go. A woman wears sexually suggestive clothing around a man. Is that not also sexual assault? No. Can we stop
Starting point is 00:43:32 there? You could wear nothing. You could wear crotchless panties and you're not sexually assaulting me because I saw you in them. I saw you in crotchless. That would basically mean that every time you wentless. I mean, that would basically mean that every time you went to a strip club,
Starting point is 00:43:46 you would be being sexually assaulted. And like, what is sexually desirous for like, what gets somebody off is different from person to person, right? Like I'm using an extreme example, obviously, but like, you know, like some people are turned on by fucking a librarian outfit, right?
Starting point is 00:44:03 And some other people are turned on by fucking a librarian outfit right and some other people are turned on by just a dress or like sure there is no like one thing we all agree is sexually provocative first of all that's a problematic stupid and myopic idea right that clearly doesn't understand how sex and sexuality works and also like it's never sexual assault when you happen to see someone yeah when you just look at somebody unless they're unless they are performing a sexual act on themselves right then it's sexual assault the thing is like yes like if a girl if i'm on a train and a girl starts fingering herself in front of me that's sexual she's sexually assaulting me right yeah absolutely or like if or she flashes you intentionally right like, that's that is that would
Starting point is 00:44:45 be that would be like, you know, same thing as if I pulled my dick out, right? That's sexual assault. Yes, that is. But that's not what this that's clearly not what he's addressing. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Men are visually stimulated and unwanted stimulation. So are women. Yeah. People, human creatures
Starting point is 00:45:01 are visually stimulated. It's one of the five senses we get to stimulate. Right. Men are visually stimulated, and unwanted stimulation should meet the basic definition of assault. No. You know, men are also stimulated by smell, and I've always been messing this up.
Starting point is 00:45:23 I always thought it was aromatherapy, but it's aroma the rapey. I never knew that. That's actually the mascot for aromatherapy. Hey, everybody, I'm aroma the rapey. It's like, oh. Drives up like fucking lavender oil in a windowless van. He's got a candy bar and a fishing pole.
Starting point is 00:45:44 I'm not condoning bad behavior by men, but women need to understand that by walking around in their little sister's skirt, they are guilty of indecent visual assault by a man's imagination. Assault on my imagination. Oh, this guy is, this guy's going down the worst road to go down.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Assault on my imagination that's imaginary assault it's not assault never even happened walking around in your little sister's skirt yeah in other words
Starting point is 00:46:17 this is the this is the problem of the uncontrollable male libido exactly right and it's this is a fucking this is a crazy insulting concept.
Starting point is 00:46:26 At the end, they're going to say we should be totally in control. So I'm going to caveat ahead of time. I know how this clip ends. And at the end, these guys do say, you know, we should be in control at all times.
Starting point is 00:46:39 But they're also saying we can't control ourselves. Right. So they're talking out of both sides of their mouth on this thing. And like, I don't care again, like it matters, not a wit to me. Yeah. How attracted I am to somebody that I happen to see. Yeah. That should not influence my behavior to act poorly. And it is not a provocation, right? Whether, and here's the difference, whether I act on that quote unquote provocation or not, it's not a provocation.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Sure. No matter what somebody wears, that's not a provocation that I am somehow resisting, right? And I think that there's like, because we've heard some variation of this argument a hundred times. The fact that somebody happens to be wearing something I find alluring does not create a provocation that I have to respond to. If it does, you shouldn't be there, right? Like that's on you. If you can't control yourself to be around other people, you need to make sure that that doesn't happen. That's on you. Right. But when I think of like that word provocation to be provoked, I understand, I understand you're defining the word and saying and saying, it's not provoking me.
Starting point is 00:47:45 But I'm saying if somebody is out of control just because they see someone, that's on you. That's not on anybody else. That's on you. That's your fault. That's your fault
Starting point is 00:47:56 for depriving yourself or whatever you're doing to yourself so that when you see somebody who's attractive, you can't control yourself. That's not nobody's fault but your own. And that's fucking weird. It's attractive, you can't control yourself. That's not nobody's fault, but your own. And that's fucking weird.
Starting point is 00:48:07 It's weird. You're bad at society. You need to go live on an island or a box or something. You can't be around people now. Yeah. Which does cause mental anguish and torment, especially on men who are really trying to live in harmony and respect toward women.
Starting point is 00:48:23 When a man sees a naked or partially dressed woman, a chemical reaction happens in his brain. Look, when everything, hold on, everything is a chemical reaction in my brain. I'm a bag of fucking chemicals. Everything is a chemical reaction. I smell cheeseburger. It's a chemical reaction.
Starting point is 00:48:41 The fuck out of here with that shit. Control your chemicals. What the fuck is wrong with you? shit so so control your chemicals what the fuck is wrong with you like are you fucking are you a little kid do i gotta swat you across the nose like a fucking dog control yourself the entirety of sexually the entirety of sexual desire and experience for this guy boils down exclusively to seeing yeah like in a boobie right it has nothing to do with like like the interaction Right. It has nothing to do with like, like the interaction among people. Like it has nothing to do with that at all.
Starting point is 00:49:10 It's entirely just, it's entirely fucking visual. But the guy fuck a painting. Like, are you kidding me? And the other thing that he keeps saying is like, when you see a naked woman, you're just like,
Starting point is 00:49:19 well, being naked in public is illegal. Right. Nobody, nobody does that. Nobody, no women are walking around being like look at me i'm all naked you can't touch these like they don't fucking like waggle their tits
Starting point is 00:49:30 at you while they're walking across the street being like i'm fucking immune to you you can't put your hands on me doesn't this frustrate you this is this weird like fucking crazy off the wall shit where people think like women are out to get them and like women are out to entrap them into something and it's just like how about they just want to be people? How about they just want to exist and they don't want some guy fucking hitting on them 24 seven. Like we shouldn't have to have, and I don't have, you don't have a strategy as a man for how you deal with women. Like women are half the population. We, you just, you have the same strategy for how you deal with anybody else. You just behave yourself
Starting point is 00:50:07 in social situations. Not every interaction between a man and a woman is a sexually charged interaction. That's weird. That makes you weird. Neurotransmitters like dopamine and serotonin are released, giving him an involuntary
Starting point is 00:50:23 surge of pleasure. Notice the word involuntary there. He's making every excuse to assault women. I know because he's like involuntary. I didn't mean to grab her. I didn't mean to choke that guy to death. I didn't mean to drive my car into those pedestrians. It was involuntary. I had a chemical surge. Sorry, you go to jail for chemical surges, dude. There's never been a time where somebody was so attractively dressed or so attractive to me that I behaved involuntarily. Right. Right. I've never behaved involuntarily.
Starting point is 00:50:58 I will say that my eyes may have behaved involuntarily sometimes. Like, you're like, don't look, don't look, gotta look. You know what I mean? Like, like there's a couple of times that I, but I've, but a discreet look is not,
Starting point is 00:51:10 is not the same. But I've, but I've, there's been times I've told myself, don't look, don't look, don't look. And then I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:51:16 gotta look like my body's like, no, who's looking, you're looking. But that thing is, is my eyes stay in my head. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:22 Like they're not rolling on somebody else. They're not touching. That's a huge difference. Right. And like, the thing is like eyes stay in my head. You know what I mean? Like, they're not rolling on somebody else. They're not touching anybody. That's a huge difference, right? And like, the thing is, like, involuntary. Sure, like, you might even get a fucking erection involuntarily. Yeah. But you didn't. Like, nobody has to fucking know.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Sure. Put your fucking algebra book in front of your pants. Put your algebra book in front of your pants. What the fuck is wrong with you? They just, like, stand up. They got their dinner plate in front of it. They go to the bathroom. Oh, sorry, guys.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Oh, God, go to the bathroom. Oh, sorry guys. Oh God, go to the bathroom. That's my favorite plate. Why are you always holding a coat when you walk out? Don't worry about it. Get a wet spot on your jeans. Oh my God. Men are in a state of constant sexual assault by women who either don't understand the severity of what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Because they're teases. Because, you know, it's cute and they like the attention. Because they're teases. Or worse, they do know the feelings. Because they're teases. And like the control they have over men. Because they're teases. No woman has any control over me because I'm sexually attracted to them.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Exactly. There's not a single woman in the world that has ever had a fucking iota of control over me because I'm a child. I don't care how fucking sad. I don't care if I'm in the middle of having sex with that person. Nobody has ever had control over me because I'm sexually attracted to them. That is a damn hell ass lie. That may, that is, that is the bullshit excuse of weak men. That's exactly what I was going to say. It's just like, it's just, all it is, is just saying I'm weak. That's all it's saying. Right. If it was reversed, if a guy in an office setting, say, where professional dress was expected, but then the next thing you know, he goes into the bathroom and comes back out with a very sexually suggestive outfit, whatever that would be, and started parading in a month.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Pause it for a second, because there is not the same kind of analog. The gender reversal here doesn't work properly. The reason why the gender reversal, I think, doesn't work is because guys are the ones who decide what the dress code is. Right. That's why. Look at, just look at how dress codes work wherever you're at.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Guys don't wear shorts. Guys don't wear flip flops. Guys don't wear, I can't wear a kilt to work. Like those things, I can't do any of those things. Right. But a girl,
Starting point is 00:53:40 look at how girls are dressed. Girls are dressed a lot more, there's a lot more skin showing because they weren't the ones making the rules. Right. Well, they can wear more, but they can also wear less. And during the summer,
Starting point is 00:53:51 I'll be perfectly honest. I have a business casual dress that's allowed during the summer. I'm allowed to wear jeans and I'm allowed to wear like pull up polo shirts or whatever, you know, like I'm not allowed to wear like a t-shirt, but I'm allowed to wear like a polo shirt.
Starting point is 00:54:03 It's like business casual. I'm supposed to come in a button down shirt and slacks every day. But during the summer, it's a lot more lax. I can wear jeans. I am not allowed to wear shorts, but every girl on my floor wears dresses
Starting point is 00:54:14 and they wear dresses because it's fucking hot out and it's a tube outfit. And there's fucking airflow that can get in there that I can't fucking have access to. If I could wear a tube outfit and get away with it, I would wear a tube outfit to work.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Like, of course I would. That's ridiculous. Look, it's also the case that like, like you said, like men set the dress code. Right. But I think men recognize that like, let's say, let's say the dress code is a suit, right? Well, men look like that's a power outfit, right? And a lot of sex and sexual dynamics is power related. And men look good in suits and they fucking know they look good in suits.
Starting point is 00:54:48 That's the sexually alluring version, right? Yeah. So it's not like I wore a suit and I went to the bathroom and I changed into something that was- Changed into my banana warmer. Right? It's like, yeah, the banana warmer isn't sexually attractive. The suit was the sexually attractive outfit.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Sure. Which is why it's the thing you mandated. So you looked good in it. You already mandated the outfit that you know projects power and masculinity and all the rest of it, right? So you're already doing it. You're already doing it. You're doing the exact same thing. It just so happens that the women's outfits are less revealing and the guys' outfits, because guys' bodies are made of garbage, are more not as revealing.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Right. A man looks better. A man looks better. When he covers up. A man looks better in a fucking pile of clothes. Literally, like if you dump a laundry basket on a man, he looks way better, way better than he ever looked without any clothes on. Most men would look better if they were wearing a different, better looking man. Exactly. Men dressed basically in a snowman of clothes. any clothes on. Most men would look better if they were wearing a different, better-looking man.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Men dressed basically in a snowman of clothes. If you're in a snowman of clothes, you're the best-looking guy in the room. Amongst the women that he worked with, I guarantee you there would be sexual harassment claims, sexual, you know, even some would try to make sexual assault claims. If a guy
Starting point is 00:56:04 came out of the bathroom after he took his suit off and he had his dick out yes there would be right but the same thing would apply if if one of my co-workers that was a girl happened to have on fucking like like she came out and her fucking and her dress was hiked up above her waist that's a sexual assault right it's the same fucking thing right it's not a sexual assault sexual harassment but you understand but it doesn't. But it doesn't happen. Yeah, it never happens. These things aren't happening. We're making up hypotheticals that are never happening.
Starting point is 00:56:31 And they're getting worked up about them. In the culture that we're living in today. So the point being, and the science claims that women are not nearly as visually stimulated as men as a whole, as a whole. I know there are exceptions, etc. But so when you reverse it and it's sexual assault. When you reverse it, you have to be like women. You have to say to women, well, how about a commitment? And they'll be like, whoo, sploosh.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Yeah. Why wouldn't it be sexual assault by the way you're describing it? Well, especially when you consider the science of it. Exactly. It's involuntary. The science of it. We're going to take your word for the science of it. It's involuntary.
Starting point is 00:57:18 That's what I'm saying. Yeah. It's assault. Now, let me say this. It's chemical assault. It's chemical assault. We're going to take a break. It's chemical assault.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Chemical assault. Chemical assault. Women have mustard gas in their crotchets. It's chemical assault. It's chemical assault. We're going to take a break. It's chemical assault. Chemical assault. Chemical assault. Women have mustard gas in their crotchets. That's what, yeah. And we'll explain this in much more detail, but let me just go ahead and say, you and I are not taking away any of the responsibility that every man has and every woman has. And particularly men, if they, you know, maybe they're tempted to do something they shouldn't do, then walk away from the temptation. Because if you give in to it, you have to answer to the law and to the Lord and to yourself.
Starting point is 00:57:52 And if you're married, to your wife and to your family. So we're not taking away from personal responsibility. We are just. You're just blaming women. I'm not taking away from responsibility. But I'm still saying that women are putting men... His argument here is that it is a woman's fault if a man
Starting point is 00:58:09 is attracted to her. It's their fault if they wear something that triggers a man. What the fuck is... Men are supposed to be walking around with these hair trigger dick machines that are just like, whatever, I find attractive. I don't know what to do. I'm assaulted. Constantly running around like, I could go off at don't know what to do. I'm assaulted. Like constantly running around like I could go off
Starting point is 00:58:25 at any moment, ladies. Don't accidentally wear something I happen to like. You're a hand grenade. You're a hand grenade. And if they, all they have to do is walk by and they pull the pin.
Starting point is 00:58:34 That's all there is. And like, what the fuck? How are women supposed to, if this nonsensical, dystopian, nightmarish reality were actually the case, what would women have to do to appease this, right?
Starting point is 00:58:47 Right. Like, because let's take this to the next, what are women supposed to wear? Is there a ubiquitously unattractive dress code? Like a frock, like some sort of sexless frock
Starting point is 00:58:56 they're supposed to wear. Yeah, just, yeah. Like they're supposed to dress like, no, they're supposed to dress like fucking like Alice from the Brady Bunch. That's what they're supposed to. But that's somebody's,
Starting point is 00:59:04 that's the problem is, man, that somebody's into everything. Yeah. Right? Somebody is into everything. They got to dress like fucking like Alice from the Brady Bunch. That's what they're supposed to. But that's somebody's that's the problem is, man, that somebody's into everything. Yeah. Right? Somebody is into everything. They gotta dress like Maude from And Then There's Maude. Nobody's into Bea Arthur, dude. I'm sorry. Nobody. Well, shouldn't our religious ideas
Starting point is 00:59:17 stand up even under a scientific approach? I mean, either thing is true or it hasn't. Well, certainly. But listen, Joe, there are some things we just have to accept on faith. So start some right wing watch. Jonathan Khan, the Bible foretold the death of Osama bin Laden. Oh, we love this guy. This is the this is the this is the the Bible tour, the tour guy, right? Yeah, he's a Jewish guy. He's on Jim Baker show all the time. And his book is called
Starting point is 00:59:46 like The Prophecy or something. What is it called again? He's the Shemitah Shemiter. Yeah. Oh, The Paradigm. The Paradigm is what it's called. It's like The Prophecy. He was the guy
Starting point is 00:59:53 who was big into the shmeagle before. It's the Paradigm. Yeah. Paradigm. Paradigm. Yeah, that's the Paradigm. We mentioned in another program,
Starting point is 01:00:02 we mentioned the nemesis or we mentioned the enemy. Well, but whatever happened to him? Resident Evil's what happened nice is in the nemesis project they shot out a bunch of windows mila jovovich slid underneath some sort of barricade and then shot things you had me at mila jovovich good good movies good salad movies i will say this that i can't control myself around those movies. When Osama bin Laden brought 9-11 to America, what happened? He didn't bring it to America.
Starting point is 01:00:34 He got a bunch of other people to bring planes to buildings, but he did not bring 9-11 to America. We always had a 9-11. Right. That's number one. We always had a 9-11 before it was significant. We had one. And then he didn't bring it here like fucking like.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Like it was somewhere else. Or like the fucking first Thanksgiving. You know what I mean? Like a pilgrim brought a fucking, like one of those fucking hand turkeys or whatever. I brought you a collapsed building. I brought you this small parks plan. Brought 9-11.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Well, 9-11 used to be over there. Yeah. And now before we went 9-10. Guys, I just want you to know. 9-12. I brought you this 9-11 used to be over there. Yeah. And now, before we went 9-10. Guys, I just want you to know. 9-12. I brought you this 9-11. We're the largest manhunt in the history of the world. And yet, if you remember, it went cold. I mean, they said he was.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Yeah, because he was in another country that didn't like us there. Yeah, right. It's super easy. And then he left there and went to a different country that was altogether completely different. He had to hide. If I remember, he was in Pakistan, right? They found him. But I mean, like initially, like when we attacked,
Starting point is 01:01:26 I think one of the reasons that they gave for attacking Afghanistan was because we asked the Taliban, if my memory serves me, and I don't remember exactly what happened, but I had thought we had like tried to communicate with the Taliban to be like, we want that dude. Can we have that dude? He claims like he did it.
Starting point is 01:01:42 We'd like to talk to him. And they're like, no, fuck yourself. And then we attack the Taliban that's what I vaguely remember from all that that shit that went down after 9-11 that was fucking 17 years ago
Starting point is 01:01:52 so I my memory could be off but as I recall Afghanistan was where we initially were searching for him well right yeah but that's what I mean and then we didn't even find him there
Starting point is 01:02:00 because he had moved from Afghanistan it took a long time like 10 years later plus that border is porous as fuck and it's not well patrolled and it's mountainous and full of fucking caves. The trail didn't go cold. It was never hot.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Yeah, exactly. It was never hot in the first place. It's also like, it's not like a hot lead if you know what country someone's in. So we need to go to Iraq. This isn't where in the world is Carmen Sandiego. She's in Afghanistan. Found her. we need to go to iraq like this isn't where the world is carmen san diego yeah exactly like oh she's in afghanistan found her like he was in you know uh afghanistan he is he's on a kidney
Starting point is 01:02:34 dialysis nobody knew what happened to him but the paradigm actually is going to sound crazy but the paradigm actually reveals what would happen and that is this in the paradigm the nemesis the guy who brings destruction on the land, and in this case, bin Laden, in the ancient case, he was named Ben-Hadad. Oh, very close names, Tom. I don't know if you noticed this. Ben-Hadad and bin Laden?
Starting point is 01:02:56 Close. So phonetically slightly similar. He's confined to his quarters. He can't leave basically his quarters. Oh, okay okay so that's very different than what bin laden was all right so we're these are not the same is that what you're saying right already bin laden left lots of places because we couldn't find him in the original places we looked because he had left those places yeah so bin laden completely unrestricted by the
Starting point is 01:03:20 globe got it okay moving on his messengers well that's exactly what happened to bin laden he couldn't leave he had to do that he couldn't leave where he left, moving on. He uses messengers. Well, that's exactly what happened to Bin Laden. He couldn't leave. He had to do that. He couldn't leave where? He left. He couldn't leave and he had to use messengers. He left the country. Yeah. He's the leader. He's not, he doesn't like fly a building, fly a building, fly a building into a plane.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Fly a plane into a building. He doesn't do that. No. He delegates. Yeah. He's like, yeah, hey, you want 72 virgins? Right. This. He delegates. He fucking, yeah. He's like, yeah, hey, you want 72 virgins? Right. This motherfucker is management. He's not doing the work. When he lies on his bed, an assassination will begin.
Starting point is 01:03:52 The paradigm says the nemesis will be assassinated. He's lying in his bed. The assassins draw near. Well, Osama bin Laden was lying on his bed in Pakistan when Navy SEAL assassins came near to the compound. Is this what we're doing? Two guys were assassinated. One guy really long time ago that had a similar name.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Also, if you're going to attack somebody by surprise, the best time to do that is when he's sleeping. When he's nap time. We time these things in the middle of the night for a fucking reason because it doesn't give you time to react because you done been sleeping a moment ago and then in the paradigm the nemesis it will be executed in his bedroom well what happened to us again
Starting point is 01:04:38 again that's right like i'm not a military commando guy. I'm not a NIC seal. Right? But if it was like, hey, man, where did you attack somebody? I don't know. Let's do it at the disco tech. Right. Yeah, let's go out. The kitchen. What we should do is when they're around everyone else, completely able to get away and slip into the crowd,
Starting point is 01:05:01 we should try to kill them then. Or would you want to do it like in their house when they're by themselves? Yeah, when they're least, when they're the most comfortable, most relaxed, less likely to respond quickly. Yeah. Like, you're not going to be like,
Starting point is 01:05:11 Less collateral damage. Attack him in his gun room. Yeah, exactly. Right? Does he have, hold on a second. We got to wait until he gets in his safe room.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Yeah. Then we're good. Yeah. If he's fucking Jody Foster's himself up in there. We're going to get him when he's at machine gun practice today.
Starting point is 01:05:28 The fuck? Amit Laden, he was literally killed in his own bedroom. But could the paradigm actually give the timing of when it would happen? The paradigm says this.
Starting point is 01:05:38 I bet after the fact it can. I bet it sure can. I bet after the motherfucking fact. Ten years after this enemy brings destruction on the land, 10 years after he will be assassinated. So when did Osama bin Laden bring destruction? The year was 2001, not 11. At 10 years, takes you to the year 2011.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Yeah, but not in September. He got killed in May. So it's not 10 years. It's nine and a half years. 2011, Osama bin Laden is assassinated as in the paradigm. Nine and a half years later. It's close. It's close.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I mean, I remember one time I had a pair of shoes that I wore and wore and wore and wore. And it just, just for years, these shoes did not wear out. And I wore them years and years and years. So, you know, sometimes God is saying little epiphanies to us, little things to us. But we don't know how to listen to his voice. Oh, God, this is the fucking shrillest.
Starting point is 01:06:33 This woman's voice. I love this woman. This is right wing watch. This is Cindy Jacobs. Some people can't control themselves around women in skirts. I can't control myself around Cindy Jacobs. With her, with her. What I love is her grandma haircut i think that's my favorite part of her is she's got realtor grandma haircut she does have a realtor grandma haircut absolutely like
Starting point is 01:06:56 100 percent realtor grandma realtor grandma she just pulled cookies out of the oven and has an open house yeah she's had an open house. And she's going to pick the grandkids up from the pool later on in the day. She's, I will sell this house today. Cindy Jacobs, this is the lady with the lots of spaghetti. Do you see a supernatural aspect in his election? There's no way he could have been elected if it wasn't supernatural.
Starting point is 01:07:27 I love that even his art supporters are like, oh no, that shit was magic. You know, I was an atheist before Trump came out, and now I believe in the devil. I do love it. Like, a candidate is so crazily unqualified that his own supporters are like,
Starting point is 01:07:43 oh no, man, that shit was just straight not going to happen otherwise. It's funny because I'm going through some old shows of ours because of the Toaster Shaken show I'm going to put in. So by the way, if you have any suggestions
Starting point is 01:07:53 for Toaster Shaken this year, send them to us, dissonance.podcast.gmail.com. Any of your favorite segments of the last calendar year, send them to me and I'm going to be, you know,
Starting point is 01:08:02 your suggestions for your favorite bits that we did over the last calendar year. But I'm going through some of the older ones and I'm going to be, you know, your suggestions for your favorite bits that we did over the last calendar year. But, uh, but I'm going through some of the older ones and I'm listening to specifically some of the things. And it's always, especially right after he got elected, there's all these people that are talking to, not only is it a shock that he got elected and like Jesus had to make sure that happened, but then they're also just like always apologizing for like, he's the only one, but he's kind of fucked up. Like they constantly do that.
Starting point is 01:08:27 And it's the same thing here. It's it's we're already like nine plus months into a into a Trump presidency. And this is what they're saying about him is like, well, he sucks. It's it's been almost a year. They're still like, yeah, we still aren't over this. We're not. We have no idea how this happened. I don't know how it happened.
Starting point is 01:08:42 We're not responsible. Right. Maybe it was magic dust mit happened. We don't know how it happened. We're not responsible. Right. Maybe it was magic dust mites. We don't know. You know, Donald Trump became the comeback kid from things that politically take, you know, most people down. Yeah, because he said he sexually assaulted a woman. He made fun of a realtor with palsy. He's like, he is the workie.
Starting point is 01:09:02 He did come back from things that take most people. A reporter. Thank you. What did I did come back from things to take most people. A reporter. Thank you. What did I say? A realtor. A realtor. No, he survived one after the other. Had you predicted or prophesied his election before the election?
Starting point is 01:09:18 No, no one did. Nobody, nobody. This is going to be, this is the best. I love this. This audio is about to happen. You know, I didn't think I did but actually I didn't think so and then somebody told me I did
Starting point is 01:09:33 and I did I did after somebody told me I did actually I did someone reminded me that it's somebody I don't know what I said. I just stopped on stage vomiting out my face hole. Some garbage that I got.
Starting point is 01:09:50 I fucking regurgitate every week to the fucking, to all the people in the audience that are ready to get spoon fed this garbage. And I just so happened, somebody remind me, you know, you, you did, you did actually. You accidentally in your, in your desperation to string a series of words together haphazardly to form semi-coherent meanings, you accidentally once post hoc made sense. If we think about it, yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 01:10:17 If we give you the benefit of the doubt here, Cindy. And also, if you're a credulous dipshit. The New Year celebration at Chuck Pierce's the year before the election, I had prophesied and the Lord says I have a trump card in my hand and I'm going to... God played space.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Why is God playing fucking Euchre? I mean, I understand like it makes sense that hillbilly God would play Euchre. He'd be like, I got both bowers. I got them both. I'm going to bid up. But I understand that makes sense that Hillbilly God would play Euchre. He'd be like I got both bowers. I got them both. I'm going to bid up. But I understand that makes sense. Euchre even sounds like what he would say.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Why does he have a trump card? I got a trump card up in my hand. I don't approve of gambling but here is an explicit reference to games of chess. How many points are being... And I'm going to trump the system
Starting point is 01:11:08 and I didn't even... And then I said, trump, trump, trumpity, trump, trump, trump. And I don't know. I didn't think about it until later. And then I was like, huh, that's weird. I didn't even recall it, sad to say. So wait. So on one hand, on the one hand, Cindy Jacobs gets
Starting point is 01:11:24 this thing for this pipeline from God that says in B.B. Arkansas, there's a bunch of drumfish that died. And those drumfish happen to be in the same state that Bill Clinton was the was the was the the governor of. And that's all he's back to Clinton banging Monica or whatever. Right. Like it's a big, long string of crazy shit that has to like lead you back. Nostra dumbass style all the way back to the beginning. In this case, it's like, nope.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I basically said his last name. I said his last name several times in a row in a message from God. I have to think that like, is she talking to God so frequently? She's tuning it out. Yeah. Like she's like, like God is like a fucking nagging housewife.
Starting point is 01:12:03 And she's like, Oh my God, I fucking get it. Whatever the thing you said is. You can't even remember the prophecies. It's funny because they didn't mention when we had the previous Republican president, a burning Bush. You know what I mean? It's I mean, easily you could have had a Bush reference, right? Because his name means something.
Starting point is 01:12:26 You're not going to have an Obama reference because that name doesn't mean anything, right? A Clinton. That name doesn't mean anything. But Trump and Bush happen to be things. They're a thing. So it's easy to make a prophecy about a thing. Yeah, about a word that's part of the common part. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Yeah. Right. But, you know, I felt that there was, in retrospect, and sometimes it's like that with prophetic. In retrospect, you'd see, you know, what God was trying to say. Yeah, that's how fucking prophecy works all the time. Because you never do it in the foreword. It's always in retrospect. You never do it in the foreword.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Yeah. You know, later, when I took a look at the words that I said that somebody reminded me that I said that maybe I didn't actually say, first of all. Yeah, exactly. Because I don't remember. Tell me what fucking plane's going to crash so nobody gets on that plane. If she can predict the weather six weeks from now,
Starting point is 01:13:13 just give me that. Is it going to give me the temperature and the precipitation six weeks from now? Yeah. The temperature range in three locations. It's easy, right? That's something that computer models weeks from now. Yeah. One, you know, the temperature range in three locations. It's easy, right? We like, that's something that like computer models got,
Starting point is 01:13:28 they've got this shit five days out, right? Yeah. Reasonable five days out computer modeling can do it, which means that it's a knowable. We just don't know it yet. So like, that's,
Starting point is 01:13:38 that's an easy ask. It's just all, we'll get there eventually. We just need better computers. Like I, I fully expect that by the time I'm 60 or 70, we'll know the weather a month out, right? Because it's knowable information. It's just how many variables are taken into account.
Starting point is 01:13:51 So your God, your actual God, give me the weather. They can't even give you that. Much less the complexity of human behaviors and interactions. Are you fucking kidding me? Give me the important stuff, though. You know what I mean? Like, that's the problem is, you know, you're getting, if you're prophetic. But they can't give you the trivial.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Yeah, right. They can't even give you trivial. But if you're prophetic and you're giving me, oh, this person's going to be president, fuck that. Who fucking cares about that? I care about what train's going to derail. I care about what fucking plane's going to fly into buildings. I care about what concert I shouldn't go to because there's going to be a
Starting point is 01:14:26 fucking active shooter. That's what we should care about. I care about what street fair I shouldn't go because some fucking asshole is going to drive his fucking truck down it. Those are the things that people should care about. You're never fucking prophetic about that. You're never a moment prophetic about people
Starting point is 01:14:42 actually being in danger. Never once does that happen well and they're always prophetic in this like purposely confusing way yeah like you god has access to the entirety of the english language why can't he speak clearly and simply be like on september 11 2011 in the morning in new york some motherfuckers are gonna apply fly some planes into the buildings like they never tell you that it's always just like the eagle of gold has landed in a tree and then the tree falls over. You're just like, what the fuck do you want me to do with this fucking crazy information? You want answers?
Starting point is 01:15:15 I think I'm entitled. You want answers. I want the truth. You can't handle the truth. This is right wing watch. Sandy Rios, George Soros may have crashed the US.S. economy in 2008 in order to elect Obama. That's weird. How do you crash the economy as a person?
Starting point is 01:15:31 Well, as a billionaire, you then billionaire. The middle part is a little confusing. I would say that you would have certainly as a billionaire, if you were to wage all of your wealth at something would be able to influence. Do you think so? I think because the economy is not, I'm not saying the economy, I'm saying influence parts of the economy.
Starting point is 01:15:52 You almost certainly would be able to, um, if you wager it, if you waged it all, if you put it all out there, these guys don't ever do that. Yeah. No,
Starting point is 01:16:00 these people don't understand how money works. They just don't get it. No. And yeah, no, not at all. Yeah. Not at all. And I don't think they understand how economics work. They just don't get it. No, not at all. And I don't think they understand how economics work. Well, this is Sandy.
Starting point is 01:16:09 George Soros has single-handedly destroyed the economies of two different nations. That motherfucker's got more power? Tell you what. Which nation? Jesus, not only is he doing that, but he's also got the bullet points for all the Antifa members too.
Starting point is 01:16:26 He's organizing the Black Lives Matter protests. This guy is... When does he sleep? God damn. He went after the stock market in England and there was one other country. Can't remember which one it was. You only have to remember two! You only have to
Starting point is 01:16:42 remember two! I love that shit! Just like, yeah, he did it But I'm not going to tell you what country it was He went after the stock How did he go after the stock market How do you go after the stock market of the UK I'm going to attack it with what With buying stuff
Starting point is 01:16:55 Did he buy billions of dollars worth of specific stocks And then sell them And then value his own money Right What I mean like like, look. Like I said, I'm sure that there are ways
Starting point is 01:17:07 to manipulate some prices on a tiny corner of the market. But the idea that you're going to tank an entire fucking country's fucking economy by one person? Especially a country as diverse and economically robust
Starting point is 01:17:23 as England. Yeah. One dude. The other country was like lichtenstein it was the country of the u.s virgin islands yeah exactly i met with the president there it was me they held up a mirror and i pecked at it. Then I shat on his stick. He manipulates. And some people, Tim, believe that, okay, this,
Starting point is 01:17:49 now I can't corroborate, I can't confirm this. Right. You can't corroborate or confirm any of the things that you said. It's good though. This is wild speculation.
Starting point is 01:17:57 This is what we live for. She can't, not only can she not confirm or corroborate, she can't even complete the names of both of the countries. You can't even connect the two dots to make
Starting point is 01:18:06 a line. Sarah Palin at least wrote the shit on her hand. Some people believe that George Soros' fingerprints were on that 2008 stock market bottom fell out of everything crash that really probably... The stock market was not the problem, though.
Starting point is 01:18:20 It was the housing market. The housing market. George Bush told everybody to invest in housing in their own house and in other places. And then a bunch of people took out a bunch of loans that couldn't sustain themselves. And it was the, it was the housing market. It was, it was the housing market and the, and the housing markets relation to the banking industry and the wild speculation, the flipping industry is what, what a lot of people are pointing to now is like people buying and selling houses
Starting point is 01:18:47 and flipping those houses and inflating prices of real estate and it just didn't have that actual price. That price was not there. That cost of that real estate, it was not actually there.
Starting point is 01:18:59 Yeah. It had nothing. This was not a problem of Wall Street. Yeah. I mean, it hit Wall Street. It hit Wall Street. But it did not originate because of Wall Street. Yeah. I mean, it hit Wall Street. It hit Wall Street. But it did not originate because of Wall Street.
Starting point is 01:19:07 And this also goes back to, too, then, cutting up those loans into those big- Tronches. Yeah, those tronches. Right, yeah. And then the devalue or the inflated value of those Moody's evaluations and bad evaluations of those profiles. None of this had anything to do with stock prices. This was real estate related. Yeah, and that real estate market was
Starting point is 01:19:32 huge. It was huge. Way bigger than the billions of dollars that George Soros had. Absolutely. The way for Barack Obama to become president. So I don't know that. What did that have to do with it? Yeah, and the thing is, like Barack Obama, none of those things, none of those problems with the, uh, the economy, the economy was already starting to tank by the time Obama
Starting point is 01:19:51 took over. Oh, it had to tank. So, so the idea that like it, it just swung just, just, uh, just well enough just for him to take over. Like people saw that tanking. It was a slow motion car accident. People knew it was happening long before it ever happened. People knew years before it ever happened. Tom, you told me in 2004,
Starting point is 01:20:12 the economy was going to tank. You said the economy is going to shit itself. I remember having this conversation in 2004. You're not an economist. You just recognized all the symbols that every other fucking economist in the world recognized yeah but i was so many people who were just like yeah we're going to clear cut the fuck out of this thing i'm going to make as much money as i can in the short term right i mean i i the only reason i could see it i think is because i happened to be in the industry that caused it like i was on the ground floor of the industry that i knew would not it was an unsustainable unsustainable you knew it yeah it was i mean and it was an unsustainable. Unsustainable. You knew it. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 01:20:45 and it was the thing that sustained my livelihood and I watched it collapse upon itself. But how did that elect Obama? I don't know. That's the thing is Obama won the election against, against Romney. Yeah. It was around.
Starting point is 01:20:57 It was, it was the first one was, was McCain. And then it was. Yeah. Okay. So, so why did it not elect McCain?
Starting point is 01:21:05 Because, because everybody was mad at Bush for crashing the... I don't even understand how it's connected. It has certainly been very successful tanking other national money markets. Other ones I can't name, but they're there. She can't either confirm or corroborate
Starting point is 01:21:22 this wild claim. Because he manipulates stocks. He has the kind of money that can do that. No, he doesn't. No. No. I mean, well, yeah,
Starting point is 01:21:31 maybe a stock. I'm sure he can manipulate a stock. Right. Pretty easily. Maybe he can manipulate several stocks, but he can't manipulate
Starting point is 01:21:38 the stock market. That's crazy. To think about it, Tim, I mean, the world is filled with George Soros and not with his money. It is filled with George Soros and not with his money yeah it's filled with George Soros that's gross that's what stinks I don't mean that George
Starting point is 01:21:52 become a million dollar patron but that's why communism has such a root and has still survived after these George Soros the communist is that what we're talking about are we communists did I miss a memo we're now communist George if a minute, are we communists? Did I miss a memo where we're now communists? Look, George, if you pay me a million dollars a show, I'll be a communist. I'm willing to do it. I'm willing to start this experiment, George. I love the idea that you will have a free market response
Starting point is 01:22:15 that makes you a communist. You'll be like, I will buy a thing that makes me communist. It's like a communist gift bag with a hammer and sickle on it. These many decades. Thriving, in fact. And now finding its new voice in a violent movement called Antifa. So... What you think about is...
Starting point is 01:22:33 Yeah, that's George Soros' problem. George Soros did all that. Yeah. A secular... Well, you call him a Jewish atheist. That's his family history. He's Jewish by... Birth.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Birth. But an atheist's that's almost an oxymoron a jewish atheist oh there are lots of jewish no to being jewish by birth just is a cultural cultural thing right has nothing to do with your sincerely held religious belief or a lack of religion eli's an atheist jew right yeah atheist they've done some of the aclu is filled with jewish atheists yeah and they they are very proudly jewish but they don't uh they do not consider their jewish identity to be religious yeah and they they well yeah i agree so it's not complicated it's not even interesting that's just the way it is yeah i know but it's just, you know, he does hate God in his heart. Yes. How do you know?
Starting point is 01:23:27 Yeah. Well, and also, there's not a lot of atheists that hate God. That's a myth, too, right? Because they don't believe in him. How do you hate something that doesn't exist that's being mad at Santa Claus? Right. I don't know. He didn't give me a sled when I was fucking 10. Yeah, I think there are some people who are angry at
Starting point is 01:23:43 religious figures. I think there are people that are angry at the way that they were brought up. Sure. But that's not being angry at God. No. Because God isn't real. You know that God is not dead movie got into that. Like, I hate, like the atheist was like, I'm mad at God! Right, because he made my wife die or whatever. Made my wife die!
Starting point is 01:23:59 Made my grandma die! My cat die! I'll be mad! Yeah, that's actually, yeah. But it's like like nobody says that. That's crazy. Like, if you are angry at God, you're not an atheist. Yeah. Because you think there's God.
Starting point is 01:24:12 Yeah, you can be an anti-Christian, I guess. Sure. You can be a Christian who hates God. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. But you can't be an atheist who hates God. You wouldn't be an atheist anymore. Out of the Bible, because no one
Starting point is 01:24:25 is an atheist gets up in the morning or lives their life looking towards what? What really? Nothing, right? Wait, what? I don't know. I get up in the morning looking towards nothing? No, when I get
Starting point is 01:24:42 up in the morning, I look towards the bathroom because I normally have to pee. I don't have to pee. I have to pee every morning. It's my thing. It's my jam. Is he saying there's nothing worth getting up for
Starting point is 01:24:52 because you're an atheist? Oh, man. That's totally the exact opposite. Right? I feel so lucky and amazed that these molecules all go together in a thing to make me be. I'm fucking excited about that all the time. I feel an intense pressure to my mortality. Yeah. I feel the clock every minute
Starting point is 01:25:13 of the day, my mortality, because I don't think that I die and go someplace else. I don't think that I get a second chance to do well. I don't think that I have any, and I have no illusions that I'm guaranteed old age. I feel an intense and constant pressure, time pressure as a result of my mortality. Yeah. So yeah, I think a lot of atheists feel that. That's what I mean. Like that is, that's the, like, why would you get up? Why would you do things?
Starting point is 01:25:40 Well, cause I only get one shot and maybe I die this afternoon. Yeah. And so if I have something to say, I got to say it. And if there's somebody I got to love, I got to love them. And if there's, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:48 like if there's something I have to do, I got to do it and I have to do it all right now. Cause if I die, I never get another chance ever. Yeah. That is unique to the atheist worldview. Yeah. I don't get a second.
Starting point is 01:25:59 I don't get a do over. Right. I don't get to go up in heaven incarnated. Right. I'm not, you know, I'm not going up to heaven. I'm all the other myths that people believe.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Except, Tim, I guess that in many ways, to me, that always explains the difference between Christians slash conservatives. They're not the same, necessarily, as we both know. But I'll combine them anyway. Liberals slash
Starting point is 01:26:23 atheists. Because they live for today. That's why they fight so hard. That's why they never quit. What about the EPA? What about environmental protection? Almost all the liberals are for that. And every atheist I've ever talked to.
Starting point is 01:26:42 I've never talked to any atheist that is like, and I'm child free. Like I'm child free, man. I'm not, I don't have any fucking, no more DNA of me is here. I fucking, when I'm gone, I'm gone. I still think all of that is super fucking important. Super duper important.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Even if it doesn't affect me, even if 50 years from now is when we start feeling the real serious effects and I'm already dead, it still matters to me. I still want it to stop. Everything, I think this is the exact opposite.
Starting point is 01:27:08 I think I see the conservatives way more as clear cut the economy. What I want is I want lower taxes. I don't ever want to think about, I want what's best for me right now. Yeah, quarterly returns. Yeah, I want to look forward only to the quarter. I don't want to look forward to 20 years down the road. So I'm not going to fund a high speed rail. I'm not going to fund, you know, infrastructure changes that are complete and, you know, completely change this country.
Starting point is 01:27:35 I'm not going to fund, you know, any of the green energy that's coming out. I'm not doing any of that. Right. I want coal because it's money now in my pocket. I want coal because it's money now in my pocket. I want oil because it's money now in my pocket. I want no regulations because I don't give a fuck about any of that stuff and I don't give a shit if I fucking pour bleach into the fucking
Starting point is 01:27:54 water. Doesn't matter to me. I don't fucking care. I see that way more on the other side than I see it on this side. Way more. And because they feel that when they breathe their last breath this is it. So they make the most of it. And they gather, they manipulate circumstances because they think this is it.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Manipulate circumstances? What does that even mean? I don't know, but I agree with her. Like, she's echoing what I said. Yeah, I believe that this is it. Yeah, absolutely. That's all there is. And Christians and slash conservatives believe in God.
Starting point is 01:28:21 And they trust him. And they don't try to manipulate every event in their own lives and in the world because they believe that there's a god who's sovereign so they just pass it what do you just you just fucking go through life and be like i don't give a fuck whatever happens happens doesn't matter my hands right just think um atheists wouldn't be motivated by much of anything at all because there's we are nothing we're going nowhere and there's no purpose or meaning to life. We're not all nihilists.
Starting point is 01:28:48 It doesn't even make any sense. Atheism and nihilism don't even have a relationship. It's such, I mean, yeah, I'm sure there are nihilists out there. I'm sure there are some atheist nihilists. Who fucking cares? The thing is, like, I don't actually know any. I don't either, but I'm not saying that they don't exist.
Starting point is 01:29:03 But I think, like, even anecdotally, I don't know any. I don't know, but I'm not saying that they don't exist. Sure. But yeah, but I think like even anecdotally, I don't know any. I don't know any. Like, and the idea, like you said, like you're child free, right? But I'm hazarding a guess, but my guess is that the reason that you care is because you're an empathetic person. The reason you care if things go well after your demise is the same reason that you care that people that aren't you generally are treated well and people that aren't you live good lives. Future generations are people that aren't you, that aren't me, right? Like we have a responsibility to each other as members
Starting point is 01:29:36 of a species and as a society and as a whole. Sure. That's just basic fucking human empathy. Yeah. It's not even complex. Yeah, it's really not. Chimpanzees have this. You don't need any book to tell you that. Right. You can go through life without any book to tell you the right or wrong and know that that's right. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Eat, drink, and be merry. For tomorrow we shall die. That's the thing about it. George Soros says eat, drink, and be merry and bring down America. Yeah. Well, that's his sport. And that's the sport. It's all, you know, in communism.
Starting point is 01:30:05 That's a weird sport. That is a weird sport. Bring down America. Yeah, well, that's his sport. And that's the sport. It's all, you know, in communism. That's a weird sport. That is a weird sport. Bring down America is a weird sport. Because, like, you know, you have to decide when they get penalized, when they don't get penalized. Who referees that? Yeah, I think Canada.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Well, that's going to wrap it up for this show that we recorded well in advance. We are at this point probably either leaving or coming back from or on our routes to Australia. The live show has happened or hasn't happened yet. We're not sure. But we're going to be back. We're going to be starting some brand new shows when we come back in December. but we're going to be back. We're going to be starting some brand new shows when we come back in December but we are, like we said, we recorded
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