Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 406: Tiny Thinkers

Episode Date: March 26, 2018

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I have a theory about the whole Space Force thing. Maybe Trump was up late at night watching TV, saw a Star Trek rerun, thought it was a documentary, and figured if he had his own Space Force, maybe he could grab some of that green space pussy. So I don't think that makes sense. All right. Glory Hall. Hi. I was just listening to your episode with David Silverman and he's absolutely right.

He's talking about how he wears Atheist t-shirts all the time. I've had more compliments on my shirts. Like I've got one of Jesus riding a T-Rex with breathing fire. He's wearing sunglasses. Everybody loves that shirt. Just this weekend I had a waitress compliment me on that shirt and said whenever I was done with it, could she have it?

But anyways, I wanted to say, yeah, be out and proud. People love it. See you later. Glory Holtz. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. recording live from gloryhole studios in chicago this is cognitive dissonance every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way we bring critical thinking skepticism and irreverence to any topic that makes the news

makes it big or makes us mad it's skeptical it's political and there is no welcome mat this is episode 406 and cecil would you please fiddle my knob a little bit more over there buddy just tweak that thing a little bit you don't do sound check on the show what i'm looking for i'm looking for a little pinch and a pull i'm just i did i already did i already did and you finished if you want me to sound like that you got to treat me right that's all i'm saying later on in the show we're gonna have mar Mutal, the author of the Tiny Thinker books. He's going to be on later on. I thought he was that Italian chef. No? Did I get this mixed up again? The grabby one?

Wait, is he a grabby? Yeah, he had to give up his restaurants. Really? Yeah! Mario Batali. He's a grabby? Give me a sec. I love that you type in Mario Batali SC for scandal, and is it just scallops?

Because I'll be honest, for a minute, I was like, hey, click on that. Mario Batali steps away from restaurant empire following sexual misconduct allegations for a man accused of chef for inappropriate touching and a pattern of behavior. It spans at least two decades, according to dozens of eater interviews.

Wow. Gosh. And it's just, what it is, is that it's this company eater is just going after him. They're attacking him. You know,

it's this coordinated attack by all these women. At the same time. Maybe if he had asked if he could eat her, then eater wouldn't be. Yeah. You got to get consent.

It's key. It's key. It's key. Because if your mouth's deep in there and they're like, what are you doing? That's an awkward conversation. I feel like that would be a little weird, though. Awkward conversation. Because your mouth is full. It's an awkward conversation. Now is not the time for talking.

We have passed the time for talking. Can you make it talk to me? I brought some googly eyes. Do you me? I brought some googly eyes. Do you mind if I put some googly eyes down here? Oh, God. Oh, man. Just a couple of pipe cleaners and googly eyes. I just want to say, sexual

harassment's not good. Can we just say that out loud? Do we have to say that out loud? It's funny because people scream at us when we don't, evidently. It turns out, if you only have 400 plus episodes talking about

feminism and equality and women's rights, that's not enough. You have to specifically address issues with people you've never fucking met. I don't think that's appropriate. You'd just be like, yeah, I don't think sexual harassment is ever appropriate. Can I ask you like, yeah, I don't think, I don't think sexual harassment is ever appropriate.

Can I ask you, Cecil, a genuine question? When should you sexually harass somebody? You know, there's a, you know, it's one of those thin lines sort of things. I don't know. It's so funny

because I'm just like, yeah, like I never thought that was a good idea. Yeah. Can we, can we just, and why do you need the opinion of two guys who weren't involved in it?

You know, like, why is it that you would need us to comment on something let me let me just say for the record like i don't approve of anybody sexually harassing anyone in the past if you're doing it right now stop and if you're thinking about doing it tomorrow or otherwise in the future don't actually i feel like that covers my face your hand in front of you and smack it put a rubber band on your dick and just snap it. Yeah, snap it once. Actually, I'm going to do that.

That sounds good. Anytime I know this is different. While I'm listening to ASMR videos. Of rubber band snapping. Of rubber band snapping. It's weird. It's a whole thing now. Bio feedback.

This is my thing. The only way, okay, this is a little weird. The only way I can get off is with this, like, paper boy fucking rubber band, one of those little, super hard, angry ones. And I have to wear this newsboy cap. Wait a minute, you wear, hold on,

you wear the newsboy cap. I say, and you smack my balls. You're all sick! Oh, be nice! Oh, my son doesn't stand a chance the whole world's gone gay oh my god what's happening now we work hard we play hard all right so this story comes from vanity fair john John Oliver's gay bunny book is outselling the Mike Pence book that it's trolling. So this book, you can't even get this book. This is the Marlon Bundo book.

Marlon Bundo. I think that's great. I got to say, Marlon Bundo. That's Pence's idea or whatever. That's his actual, like this is based on Mike Pence's actual pet rabbit. His pet rabbit's name is Marlon Polo. I love the pet name. I love it. I think that's

awesome. His cat's name is Meowth Seytong. Or Kittler. Either one. Kittler. Either one. Kittler. I like that. I like that. So this is one of those things. This is sort of like you you know, like when you donate to Planned Parenthood and then you put like, from Mike Pence, and then you put his address on there.

So all the literature goes like a fucking thank you card at Christmas. I love when these guys have these, and Mike Pence, the reason this is being done is the John Oliver book is an LGBTQ friendly book. So, and it's a children's book. reason this is being done is the the john oliver book is is an lgbtq friendly book right so and it's a children's book and obviously mike pence is i mean not obviously maybe you don't know this but if you don't even living in iraq mike pence is known for being an lgbtq bigot like he's bigoted against absolutely that whole absolutely absolutely people so um just look at his career you don't that's not it's i mean it's not a controversial It's not a controversial statement.

I would tell him that. If Mike Pence were in studio, my first question would be, why are you a bigot? Is it fun being a bigot? Why are you in the studio? Is that white hair... Did you get the white hair because you're a bigot, or was that a gift from the bigot club? What is that about?

It might also be possible to say you're obviously closeted because nobody else would care this you're obviously closeted nobody else would care it's true it's true right you'd much rather be saying father than mother wouldn't you wouldn't you come on mike come on mike is your hair daddy's more like anyway he's got this book it was uh and so john oliver creates a book and that book then immediately rockets to number one over number over fourth place yeah my pen's book is in fourth place yeah you can't even buy this thing really it's sold the fuck out sold out it's sold the fuck out yeah yeah and're going to make new ones too. You know, I think the worst part

about having a rabbit as a gay lover is they always try to jump completely into the hole. You know what I mean? Like they're trying to put their whole body in there. That's the worst part? Have you seen rabbits fuck? It's like and they're done. The nibbling of the carrot might be.

You know what I mean? That's why I try to fuck women that you can take and they're done. That and the nibbling of the carrot might be, you know what I mean? Like, like, you know, no teeth. That's why, that's why I try to fuck women that I like, you can take their dentures out. I think that that is sort of where you want to be.

No nibble. Yeah. Or if it is a nibble, it's just a nibble. Martha Stewart, call me. It's often worse, I guess,

to have a straight rabbit as a partner because when she gets, she gets pregnant, it dies. You know what I mean? Abortions for all. Very well. No abortions for anyone. Abortions for some miniature American flags for others.

Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others. I thought this was a really interesting article. This is from ABC News. Abortion rates go down when countries make it legal. Countries with stricter abortion laws have higher abortion rates. That seems obvious, though, doesn't it? Why would the abortion rate go down? Well, so.

What makes that obvious? So for me, what jumped out at me was initially like, if you have a country that's willing to allow abortion, you probably also have a country that's a lot more free with contraception. I see. You probably don't have a country. So it's all the other things that are concomitant. It's all the other things that have to happen. Right. Maybe they have prohibitions against child marriage. Maybe they have, you know, religion that isn't part of that prohibition of contraception they normally have.

So there's some other things I think that the reason why abortion rates or why countries would allow abortion mean that I think that they have to necessarily be less religious. I see. So, so it's, it's, it's the sort of accompanying progressive factors around a country that has around a secular country, right? Because look at what Ireland, Ireland's a very progressive company, a country, you know, pretty progressive country. Right. That's true. It just also is not a place that you can get an abortion. Yeah, that's true. Because it's crazy. That's weird, though, because all of Dublin is an abortion. So you would think...

That is true. God, if they had a vacuum there, what would that do for that city, huh? You could just vacuum right up the poop. It would be the only thing that's ever been cleaned in all of Dublin. If there was one vacuum, if they had one paper towel in all of Dublin, it would be a fucking Christmas miracle.

Just one. They showed a picture of a place that had kegs or whatever lined up outside before St. Patrick's Day over there. And there's just this whole street was just lined with kegs getting ready for like one night or whatever. It's unreal. Can you imagine being on that street that we were at in Dublin? I literally cannot. On St. Patrick's Day. I literally cannot, no.

I couldn't imagine it. We were in there in fucking like October. We were like on a weekday in October. It still smelled. I don't know how that's possible. It was chilly and wet and still smelled like stale beer, piss and vomit.

And abortions. And abortions. Because you can get a street abortion in Dublin. With a coat hanger. You get a green beer and a coat hanger. Top of the morning to you. Here you go, you beautiful lad.

Here you go. Here's your little baby on a wire hanger. I made a mobile out of them. Look at them. They're beautiful. They are. Jesus, Mary and Joseph.

That's their names of the aborted babies. That's why they don't let them do it because Irish people aborting things would be hilarious. Like the comedic value

is just too high. We can't. The doctor's trying to do this laughing. His hands all shaky. He's like, I perforated your uterus. Sorry.

You kind of went a little Scottish there. I did. I get confused. I get mixed up. It's all emerald. It's all emerald. Lord, we just asked it to be covered

with the blood of Jesus. Open hearts, Lord. Open hearts. All right. This story is from Raw Story. Two-year-old girl dies after parents treat her pneumonia with prayers and anointing oil instead of medicine.

So this is very similar to what it sounds like. Now, I will say. One out of ten doctors recommends oil. Scroll down. Shoot that doctor in the face, actually. Right? Yeah. The reason I really like this article is the very last line in this article.

Oh, yeah. Authorities said at the time the children would be kept together and placed with a family that believes in medicine. I saw that, too. Believes in medicine. I saw that, too. Hey, low bar ask here. Do you believe in medicine? I don't actually have to.

Medicine's real. Yeah. Whether we believe it or not. It's not like I'm going to take antibiotics and be like, I just believed. And so that's why the Cipro worked. I thought real hard. And that's why the amoxicillin did its work. Yeah, exactly.

Because the fuck on. So this kid, the kid gets sick. The doctors say that. I want to read a part of this. It says a forensic pathologist who performed the autopsy testified in a previous hearing that this child would have been able, would have been fighting to breathe and coughing uncontrollably due to pneumonia. And he told the court that any reasonable person would have concluded that she needed medical care. Yeah. I actually, I will say like, I love these cases because when they happen and people go to fucking jail for this and have

their kids taken away from them, it highlights the absurdity of this shit, right? So I never want this to happen, but there are some states, Utah, and we talked about this in other episodes. There are some states where this shit happens rampantly. Yeah. Happens all the time. Absolutely rampantly. It's all the time. And there needs to be not only a legal stigma around this garbage, but there needs to be a social stigma around this garbage, no matter what religious be a social stigma around this garbage,

no matter what religious community you're a part of. Like, these are kids. They're human beings. They're in your fucking care only for a handful of years until you domesticate them and then release them

into the fucking world. The reason why they're in your care is because they can't take care of themselves. Right. And you're entrusted. That's your responsibility. Yeah.

And you should bear every responsibility if you are negligent. And this is pure negligence. It's just pure negligence on their part. And it's been pure negligence for years. And there's some places, like you say, that people get away with it. They get away with it.

They walk away and they say, whoopsie doodle. And then they still have fucking 65 fucking kids at home tilling the fields or whatever. And that shit, I don't understand either. It's like, you already fucked up with this once. Like, they should take all your kids away forever and sterilize you. That's it.

Like, you can't handle this. You shouldn't be able to do this anymore. Like, I feel like if I got, if I went out to the pound and I adopted a dog and then I beat that dog to death and I went back to the pound. And the pound knew, in this case, the government, right?

Sure. The pound knew that I fucking starved that dog or beat that dog or whatever. They're not going to let me get another fucking dog. Sure. Right? But, like, we have this thing with parents where we revere this nonsensical idea that everybody who can fuck is going to end up being a fine parent, right? Or has the tools or has the, you know, mental and emotional wherewithal to do this well,

or the intellectual capability to do this well. There are some people who demonstrate to us. They demonstrate to us. They can't do the work. Yeah. And then we're just like, well, can you stick your dick in her? Because if you can, you can just make more of them. Tell you what, it's fucking the easiest thing in the world to do.

Right. And a hard fucking thing to have to deal with the consequences. Right. Yeah. Right. And we expect that everybody should just be able to just deal with the consequences with, I mean, very little supervision, it turns out. Even in cases, don't get me wrong, I don't want the government supervising

people. Absolutely not. I understand. But like, if you demonstrate that you can't keep one alive, then like they just take the others. That's it. And then you're not allowed to have anymore. There's got to be some sort of safeguard because those kids, you know, they're expecting the parent to take care of them in the one case.

Well, the government's got to step in if the parent can't do it. And you've proven that the parent can't. I feel like with kids, there should be like a one strike rule, right? Like, I mean, for the big stuff, right? For the really big stuff. For the really big stuff. One of them dies. Right.

That's a one strike. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you beat the shit out of them. You sexually abuse them. Like, that sort of stuff. Like, why is there another opportunity to fuck that up? Yeah.

Like, it's, it's, Like, why is there another opportunity to fuck that up? Yeah. Like it's, it's like, why is that? Yeah. I wonder though, like, you know, maybe there's been studies on their part that show that, you know,

kids taken away from parents wind up in worse condition than if they go back to a parent that might be able to be rehabilitated. You know what I mean? Like, do you understand what I mean? Yeah, I do. I do. I just like,

if that study, if that study shows that, then I would support that. Right. You know, absolutely. I would, I would. I just like, if that study shows that, then I would support that. Right. You know, absolutely. I would support the results of that if the study showed that. You know, I just, what I worry about is that we revere, because I feel like culturally we do, we revere the parent as this sort of on high role.

Oh, it's a mom. Oh, it's a dad. Like, as if that suggests something virtuous about the person. Well, that person didn't change. If they were a shitty person, there's, there's nothing that suggests that there's not going to be a shitty mom or a shitty dad. There's plenty of, you know, now they're just under more stress and less sleep. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Better chance of them being shitty. When did that ever help were you like oh you're a shitty person when you could take a nap at three in the afternoon i bet when you haven't slept in two days you'll be probably fucking out of money you'll be a real gem to be

around probably awesome now i don't know if you'll be doing drugs in the afternoon right no no you'll be fine you'll be fine seems such a shame that George, for all his brains, could never accept the fact of God having any part in the universe. I'm so thankful that neither of you ever got to questioning things the way he did. This is from the Washington Post. I didn't even hear about this until I heard that it didn't happen. No, the Pope did not persuade Stephen Hawking to believe in God on his deathbed. Yeah, no, he made him an offer he couldn't refuse. Wade Stephen Hawking to believe in God on his deathbed. Yeah, no, he made him an offer he

couldn't refuse. Look here, Stephen, you believe in God or I throw you off this fucking balcony here. Forget about it. Monday, Tuesday, Friday. Fucking Stephen Hawking is sitting there with the

Pope. It's so funny when I read this article, I was like, why would he even go to the Vatican? And it's because he was part of a council for many many years that went to visit the vatican and try to teach them about science and i'm like what the fuck did they learn in the meantime yeah this happens anytime a prominent atheist dies right there are rumors sure that on their deathbed they converted happens all the time as as if like like, and I always laugh when this happens because it's like, let's say it happened. Let's say Christopher Hitchens, right?

Converted on his deathbed. It wouldn't change anything. It doesn't stop it. Nobody who is like, oh, well, you know, I had all these proofs that God wasn't real and I listened to these debates and these stories and I concluded that this wasn't, oh, but Christopher Hitchens,

in a moment, probably fraught with terror and pain. Changes his mind. That will change my, like it wouldn't change anybody's mind. It doesn't change anything. Well, it also just doesn't change anything afterwards either. It doesn't change reality. It doesn't change reality. And there's a person or

many people out there that make these up. Somebody has to make this up. Somebody has to make this lie up. Somebody has to turn this into fake news. They have to make this fake news story up. How would they feel if somebody said this, the opposite about Billy Graham? That he lost his faith. That Billy Graham lost his faith on their deathbed.

Think of how the uproar from their community if somebody made a fake news story like that and tried to publish that and tried to share it all over and it had to get Snopesified. Like, no, he didn't. He fucking jerked off in Jesus' statue or whatever before he died. Whatever. You know what I mean? Like... Jerked off in Jesus' statue?

It's not coming! I don't know what the hell's... Why did they even make this anatomically accurate under this fake loincloth? Then he just dies. Exhaustion dies of exhaustion right there. He's had wood forever. I can't get up. Wood.

There's wood in front of him. But, but how would they feel about that? They would be upset. They would be very upset. They'd be like, how dare you? How dare you do this to this guy?

Because to them, it'd be a big deal. But to us, we're just like, yeah, that didn't happen. We just laugh about it. We laugh about it. Right, I find it hilarious. But the opposite would be appalling. I genuinely feel like if that story were to circulate enough, they would be appalled by it.

I think they would. Yeah, you're not wrong. Like if the story was like that Stephen Hawking converted the Pope and then the Pope died of a heart attack. I'd right away. Every Pope, though, looks like he's on the verge of fucking dying, though. Every single Pope. It is a prerequisite of poposity.

Popetum. Popetude. But like you must be moments from your fucking death before the dark side ages you so much. It really does. It really does it really does you know the difficulty is staying up all night playing fucking hide the priest to the fucking shell game right for the priests round and round they go where are they stopped no one knows well actually the kids that are getting fucked by him no but yeah should i put him in

here we go ak-47 the very best there is. When you absolutely, positively got to kill every motherfucker in the room, except no substitutes. This story is from NovaMagazine.com. It's really from fucking Right Wing Watch, but I found it somewhere else so that we don't always use Right Wing Watch. Nova Magazine, the official sponsor of Cognitive Distance. This is televangelist lance while i do compare students protesting for gun control with the brown shirt hitler youth

because because lance okay all right here we go i'm still upset over the fact that 3,000 schools with children 14, 15, and 16 were organized by, sorry to say, left-wing Democratic mobilizers. Why are you sorry to say that, Lance? Yeah. Why are you sorry to say that? Because you don't like left-wing. I don't like what they had to say. Were they, though?

The student walkout, was that... Clearly, the student walkout was not a right- wing thing, right? No, but this was, this was organized. What's interesting is this was very much organized from like the ground level. Like this was like a grassroots thing. So after the Parkland shooting, students who survived that shooting, you know,

they got up and they made a fucking fuss and it caught on fire that's i think that's what really happened here is students felt um empowered and they felt emboldened and they decided like you know hey we want to be a part of this thing we don't yeah we also don't want to get this is something that's that's near and dear to our hearts so that lead is not near and dear to our heart no kidding right you know it's funny i i i wonder what started it, but it's hard to always know the genesis of what created something.

But part of me wonders if it wasn't Twitter that really helped push this along because the day after that shooting, a couple of Republicans were spouting off and there was a few of these Parkland people that got retweeted a bunch. Yeah, fighting back on it. Yeah, fighting back on it.

Like, you weren't there. You don't know what you're talking about. Yada, yada, yada, and those sorts of things. And I wonder if that was sort of their realization that if I speak, someone will listen. Well, right. Because now they have a much louder bullhorn, right, than was possible before at a younger age. What's also interesting is, like, how badly the right miscalculated their responses to that because i saw some of that and it's like man you're never gonna win being shitty and arguing

with somebody who has the legitimacy of having been involved in that shooting right that student who was in building at the time that that shooting occurred has inherently a more sympathetic viewpoint. It doesn't matter. It wouldn't even make a difference if you were right on the right. If every point you made was an accurate or better summation

of the facts or whatever, I don't think it is. But even if all that was true, you're never going to be as sympathetic as those kids who just went through this terrible experience. Right. So fucking chill the fuck out. Well, it's interesting because there's a couple of these people and I don't know if he'll say it or not, cause I actually didn't watch this, but, um, you know, they, they say something like, you know, we shouldn't be letting these kids do legislation. They don't, they're, they're, they're too young to be doing legislation, those sorts of things.

And I'm like, they're not too young to be shot. Like they're not too young to be shot. That's the thing you have to understand. It turns out in this country, there is no too young to be shot. It turns out there's not. No. After Newtown, there's no too young. Well, there's women in Chicago that, that die with babies in them.

That's true. You know what I mean? They get shot in gang violence and they die with babies inside them. So there's literally no too young. Right. Like not even here yet.

It's still fine. We got one. It's still on the table. We got one. Yeah, it's like shooting a doe that's pregnant. And you got two for one. It's like a bogo.

It's like a fetus in a barrel. It's a bogo. Shooting a fetus in a belly. That's rude. She's not a barrel. That's rude, Tom. But I don't know the right answer.

I don't know what the right answer is other than banning guns, which isn't going to happen in the United States. I don't know what the right answer is. And I don't know that,

and I've said it before, I don't think that assault rifle bans and bump stock bans and all that stuff, I don't think that that's going to do anything. I don't think that

that's a significant change in anything. I think that that's a significant change. That's a good to feel good legislation. And that's all it really feels like to me. It doesn't feel like legislation that makes a sweeping difference. So I don't know what the answer is, but I love the idea that these students, even though they're not old enough to vote, they can still affect change and they can walk out of school and they can, you know, what we should be looking at is being like, oh, there's a bunch of people out there that want to be politically involved. We shouldn't be discounting them.

We shouldn't just be saying, well, you're too young to be involved. Get the fuck out of here, kid. We should be encouraging them and be like, yeah, you know what? You can affect change. But it's so funny, right? Because like you see the criticisms level of young people like, oh, they're, you know what? You can affect change that way. But it's so funny, right? Because you see the criticisms level of young people. Like, oh, they're woefully out of touch and uninformed. And they're not engaged with the process.

And they're not part of our citizenry. And it's like, oh, well, we're really into this issue. Whoa, whoa. You'll be Tide Pods, you fucking stupid shithead. Yeah. I saw that same thing. It's both ways. It cuts both ways.

Right. And it's like, no, I mean, you can't do that. You can't do that. And you're never going to win arguing against a fucking child victim of a shooting. To be forced to have to go out and have their first experience of doing public protests, in a sense

to raise a fist of frustration at government, feeding into this whole sick culture that we have on the left of perpetual discontent and organized protests. Yeah, organizing a protest is a good thing. Do you remember the Tea Party, big fella? The dissatisfaction with the government and the raising of fists and the people marching around and the million people supposedly that Glenn Peck got out to go do stuff at the tea party. Do you remember that? Cause I remember that. And yeah, I guarantee you wouldn't be saying the exact same things about that. It's just cause you disagree with it.

You don't like the pie. You don't like the message, but like you're going to criticize that they had an organized protest. Should they have had a disorganized protest? You know what I heard? And I don't know if this is true. And I, and I hope somebody in, in the new England area can let me know if this is true. But I had heard that during one of the walkout days that they had planned, the people out on the East Coast were getting hammered by snowstorms and there wasn't any school. And they showed up to stand outside of the school. Oh, that's cool. I heard that that's true. I don't know how true that is. I think I might have saw it on a meme or something. So please don't, if it's not true, don't crucify me.

But if it is true, let me know. Send me a message or a news story. I'd love to see if that was true. Because that's what I had, you know, like that's sort of the buzz that was going along. Do you think this changes anything? Do you think getting young people involved in making a fuss makes any difference? Do you think there's going to be any meaningful gun control legislation? I read something the other day that said that

the millennials that can vote now, now outnumber the baby boomers. So it's possible it changes. Possible, right? And millennials are above this age. This is the Gen Zers. Is that who this is? I don't know. I don't know what they call them. I did learn this week I'm a Zennial. There's a new

like 1977 to 83. There's a new like 1977 to 83. There's a Xenials. It's like a micro generation or some shit. It's all jibber jabber. Yeah, it doesn't matter anyway. I'm from that generation even though I'm older than that because that's who I relate to. I don't have any friends that are like my age.

I have friends that are younger. So generationally you can flux into whatever. I'm already whatever the other generation. I have the same ideals, the same everything. You don't have to be that age younger. So generationally, I'm already whatever the other generation. I have the same ideals, the same everything. Right. You don't have to be that age to be that generation. That's interesting.

Yeah. I didn't realize that, but it makes sense. Right. And so these kids, whether they want it to or not, have peer pressure, teachers,

students, propagandizing them and making them go out and march. And it's. So the students were pressuring the students to do what the students didn't want to do they held a gun to their head still organizer this thing is came out and it's interesting to me the teachers students propagandizing them and making them go out and march and it's interesting to me that they're marching about violence and the main organizer of this thing is came thing comes out of Chicago

where they have 650 people murdered a year and they never once organized a march over their own city. You fucking liar. You fucking liar. Every fucking, all the time, constantly, there's organizations, there's marches, they march

all through the worst parts of this city. They're the most torn up by gun violence. Happens all the time. All the time. That is a blatant lie. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Absolute fool. And the reason why he's saying is because the people who are listening will think that it's true.

Oh, yeah. They will think that they don't ever organize around that. And you hear that's a Republican talking point that gets repeated over and over and over again. They don't care about gun violence in Chicago. Trust me. There's a lot of people who care about gun violence and they march all the time. And they and that happens constantly. Plus, it's also just a blatant deflection.

Like, even if what he said were true, it in no way impacts whether or not students are making a different point. It's a red herring. It's a red herring. Yeah, it means nothing. It has no impact on the value of those protests or the claims and demands from the protests. But they're seeing it as a political opportunity. Yes, right.

And so while they're doing this as a political opportunity, Christians are looking up the news and going, oh, isn't that terrible? You know what they should really be marching about? Three or four dysfunctional deputies who had guns to refuse to go in. If I wanted to make the argument for arming teachers and citizens, I'd say when you've got a government that's so dysfunctional that they don't go into a school when the guns are going off and they're the authorized people, I'm not going to look to the police. I'm going to.

That didn't happen. That also didn't happen. It was one guy. It was one guy. It was one guy who since quit. He was the guy sends quit. And there's been a lot of talk about what that really says about the training of people to run into a building where people are shooting at you. That takes a tremendous amount of training to get people to do that. People, teachers are not going to do that. Some fucking rent a cop is very unlikely to do that. Like people, teachers are not going to do that. Some fucking rent a cop

is very unlikely to do that. You know, even the cop in this case was unlikely to do that. Guns and, this is a great example of why more guns in schools is not going to do it.

It's a worse idea. Right? Because you had a guy right outside the school who froze up. Yeah. We freeze up. Guns are fucking terrifying

when they're going off. Yeah. They're fucking terrifying. That's why the military has to train the ever-loving shit out of its people to not freeze up when they're at a point of combat. You're going to do the same thing with your fucking high school art

teacher? Are you really going to do that shit? You're not going to do that shit. High school art teacher is going to leave their fucking gun on top of the toilet paper dispenser in the fucking bathroom and some kid's going to get it. That's what's going to leave their fucking gun on top of the toilet paper dispenser in the fucking bathroom. And some kid's going to get it. Yeah. And that's what's going to happen. That happens.

You had mentioned earlier. It happens all the time with people, cops all the time, lose their guns that are actually stationed at schools. Right. Lose their guns. It's a silly thing to think that just because a trained professional was there and didn't want to go in. And in his case, he's even exaggerating it to three trained professionals were there and didn't want to go in. And in his case, he's even exaggerating it to three trained professionals were there and didn't want to go in.

That somehow giving people to non-trained, giving guns to non-trained professionals is somehow better. Yeah, it's going to fix it. It's somehow going to fix it. And like the idea too, that like, well, your government didn't do it. Like it's one guy.

Yeah. It's one guy. Do not make one guy emblematic of the entire governmental infrastructure with respect to responding to these threats. Like, come the fuck on with that shit. Yeah. It was one guy who had a fucking, to be perfectly fair, that poor fucking guy had a moment of crisis. Yeah.

He did not handle himself in that moment of crisis the way that we would like him to. But I think it's a very human moment. Absolutely. And his life is fucking ruined. He has been fired. He's been pilloried by the public, and everyone thinks he's a fucking coward. And I gotta tell you, it's real easy to think that guy's a coward

when you're not the one who has to run into that building when people are shooting at you. I would want someone to try to save my child. I would too. I would hope that if I had a child, I would want to run into that building to try to stab that person too. I'd like to think that about me too. I don't child. I would too. I would hope that if I had a child, I would want to run into that building to try to slap that person too. I like to think that about me too. I don't know what I would do.

And that is exactly the point, right? I bet this guy thought he was that guy. That's the reason why he became a deputy, right? Right? Yeah. I think we all think

we're that guy. Sure. And I think most of us aren't that guy. President Bonespurs thinks he's that guy. I know, right? Here's what I would do if I was faced with a situation I will never be faced with.

I'd punch Joe Biden in the face. I think every individual needs to really be protecting themselves as much as possible because the left is lawless. They create lawlessness, and then they raise up rebellion out of the very lawlessness they create. Wait, what? Wasn't the left in power recently? Oh my God, what does that mean? The left creates lawlessness and then they create what? He's talking about Lucy lawlessness?

I don't know. So this school, all these kids marching and having their posters made and organized, this is, in my opinion, it's as dangerous as Hitler raising up the brown shirt Hitler youth and forcing them to become

politicized and weaponized from age 10 to 14. How did we get to Hitler youth, Tom? How did that happen? Because they were also a politicized youth group. Did they walk out of school? They did because they didn't want, what a lot of people don't know about the Hitler brown shirt

the Hitler youth is they were protesting violence they were protesting violence they were protesting the Reichstag fire I know most adults aren't prepared to discuss the second amendment profoundly let alone a 10 year old or a 14 year old they don't need to discuss the protest.

All they need to say is like, please stop. Please stop allowing people to have guns. So I get shot. Yeah. I feel like that's such a bullshit argument, right? It's like,

well, we got to have a conversation about the second amendment. All right. I'm willing to have a conversation called. I don't think the second amendment's a good idea. Yeah. And then I'm, I'm,

I'm willing to set that to the side and say, what should we do next? Yeah. Right. Right. Like take your second amendment. Yeah. idea. And then I'm willing to set that to the side and say, what should we do next? Right? Take your Second Amendment, put it in your fucking box of virtue or wherever the fuck you put that because it's a fucking amendment and you can't get it out of your

fucking head that it is this enshrined good as if it came down as a platonic ideal that we can never look askance at. Fuck that noise. And the thing is, is like, like in the one breath, they're willing to do that with the second amendment, hold it on high.

It can't be, there's nothing you can do to it. You know, all you can do is look at it once a year and power wash it and then walk away. But when you talk about like the establishment clause, right? They're willing to take out, like pull their pants down and take the nastiest corn filled shit on that. Right. Well, he did in the very beginning, right. They're willing to take out, like pull their pants down and take the nastiest corn filled shit on that. Right.

Well, he did in the very beginning where he's talking about organ, like we have the freedom to assemble. Right. And he's like, oh, he's organized protests. Like,

yeah, that's, that's, that's, that is as much our fucking first amendment. Right. As your fucking blow job to a fucking AR 15. Yeah.

I, I did see a, a, a, a graph that showed how difficult it is to get a gun all over different places in the world. And you can get a gun, it turns out, in a lot of

different places. In England, you can get them as long as you join a hunting... You have to join a sporting club and you also have to store it there so you can't store it at home or something. See, I think that's a good alternative. There's several different places where you have to at least prove you have a safe or have something in your home that proves that you're going to keep it,

or you have to store it at a, at a different place. That's not your home. And there are several places like that. Several places require tons of background checks and you have to get letters or recommendation from people. There's like all these other hoops that people make others grow, jump through other countries, make their citizens jump through when they want to get guns because all it takes is one calorie

of energy to kill a human being. Sure. You know, that's all it takes. And that's a, that's a huge responsibility. And the problem is, is in this country, we just don't give a shit. We'll give it to anybody. We'll let anybody have it. And in any form, all the way up into fucking almost bazooka level. You know what I mean? Like you got these weapons. Yeah, we can't have automatic weapons.

But, you know, some of these guns that, you know, you could just fire off, you know. Are insane. And you could shoot. And there's very little recoil. And the aim, you could just pick up a new target so quickly and it's just, I mean,

it's unbelievable the amount of firepower you can have. The amount of firepower you can have is unreal. You know, in many states, children can legally own a gun?

Yeah. Recently, a couple of stores have gotten huge backlashes because they weren't going to stop selling to people under, I think Walmart said they were not going to sell to people under 18 or under 20 or something like that.

Maybe 21 or something. Whatever it was. It was a number. But I could buy a gun and give it to my four year old. Yeah. I'm allowed to do that. Yeah. And then he can own it.

Yeah. He can't own things yet. He still shits in his diaper. And I could hand him a gun and that would be a legal thing to do. He could own a gun. That's insane. This country is insane. This is an abuse of political leverage through the school system, which tells us the left will politicize everything from the Academy Awards to the Golden Globes to schools

and high school. And only those two things, though, award shows in schools. Those are the only two things. Those are the only two things that people in schools when people are getting shot in them. Also, schools are necessarily political because the educational system is funded by the government. Yeah. So, OK, there's no way to have a discussion about that that is not in part political.

Now, the concern, obviously, is if this isn't bottled up in San Francisco, this kind of nonsense, then it's going to be spreading across the entire fruited plain, and you're going to be going to your Burger King in Des Moines, Iowa, and you're going to have a rainbow-colored wrapper for your Whopper. This story is from the Friendly Atheist blog of Patheos, head of Christian College. When you see LGBTQ, replace those letters with ISIS. So he gives some examples. I just got to read some of these.

These are amazing. These are crazy. All right. So he gives us some examples so we can see how clear as a bell this will make the issue. All right. Is everybody ready? He said, something will become quite obvious. Sentences will emerge such as these, quote, love is love.

And ISIS has the right to love who they want to love. What? Does that even mean? Ah. What? Does that even mean? The ISIS community simply wants to be accepted and affirmed. No, they don't.

They want to steal people's children to sell them as child brides. Sometimes they want to burn men alive in cages. Sometimes they want to throw them off buildings because they're gay. Sometimes they want to fill mass graves with beheaded civilians. I think there's a lot of other things. I don't think that accepted and affirmed, no, this is a different part of the prince where they want to be feared.

And the first one, like love is love and ISIS has the right to love who they want to love. Yeah, we're not worried about what they're loving. Like nobody is worried about ISIS because of their love. Nobody's like, hey, man, you know, we're real worried about the guys that ISIS're loving. Nobody is worried about ISIS because of their love. Nobody's like, hey man, we're real worried about the guys that ISIS is loving. Just real concerned about ISIS. Nobody cares. And the other one,

what right does anyone have to refuse to bake a cake for an ISIS wedding? I feel like if you know there's an ISIS wedding, you shouldn't worry about the cake and you should call Homeland Security. That's just the ISIS on the cake. Oh, God was waiting for it. Absolutely.

Terrible. Yeah. What I love is that it doesn't make any sense at all. None. None whatsoever. And you could make it just as nonsensical by replacing that with liberal, by replacing that with GOP. You know, you could just make it just, it doesn't make any sense, period. It turns out, if you just randomly

insert different words into a sentence, they don't function in the same way. He's basically treating, he's treating LGBTQ as a mad lib. Can I, can I, I'm gonna try one, hold on. Okay. Love is love, and chupacabras have the right to love who they want

to love. That makes more sense than ISIS. Hold on. The chupacabras have the right to love who they want to love. That makes more sense than ISIS. The chupacabra community simply wants to be accepted and affirmed. It's a pack of chupacabras. Is it a pack? What's the name? Okay. It's a murder?

Audience, audience. What is the name for a group of chupacabras? Let us know what that is. Tweet that at us. Finally, Cecil, the question's been burning on my mind all night. Okay, what is it? What right does anyone have to refuse to bake a cake for a chupacabra wedding?

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Says chess piece in a doily. Look at that guy. Look at that guy. Look at that guy. The fuck, man. What kind of hat is that? Who looks at that guy is like, wait a minute. Now I need to take that guy seriously.

It'd be like if you were hearing a political speech and the guy was in a clown outfit with a giant nose and he kept going, you wouldn't take that seriously. You'd look at that and you'd be like, no, that's not a real thing.

You know how you're not supposed to judge a book by its cover? That's bullshit. We judge shit by its cover? That's bullshit. We judge shit by its cover all the time. We do. This is a circumstance. All right. So this is Rabbi Shitstack Yosef or something.

Itzak. Itzak. Yeah, whatever. So hold on a minute because I love this. Shitstack Yosef was addressing Jewish legal aspects. It's a Yitzak. It's like you make a big bagel sandwich. Oh, I gotcha. I got this. Shitstack Joseph was addressing Jewish legal aspects. It's a yitzstack. It's like you make a big bagel sandwich.

Oh, I gotcha. You make it with four different bagels. I would have one of those. Sounds good. Can we order one on Grubhub? Maybe. Can we get one with corned beef in it? And a schmear? He was addressing Jewish legal aspects.

I love this so much. Of the blessing on seeing fruit trees blossoming. Okay. During the Hebrew month of Nissan. Not Toyota. Toyota's next month. Yeah. He was addressing that burning question of whether one should bless one tree or

at least two. Yeah. I mean, you know, your time's worth something. So, okay. I just want to point out it's fucking 2018. So, okay. I just want to point out it's fucking 2018. And these are the burning questions that Yitzhak. That's what I said. So in that context, the crazy context worrying about how many trees to blast during the month of Japanese automobiles.

He mentioned uttering seeing an unusual creature, which was a black person with two white parents on the street. And they referred to black people by the word cushy, which I may be mispronouncing, which in modern Hebrew has a pejorative connotation. And then going on to turn the black person, a monkey. Oh,

why does anybody take this guy seriously? Why does this guy have any, like, wait a minute, he said something racist. Oh, really? A moment ago, he was talking about how many trees to bless. And he's wearing a dress. He's, like, in a weird ancient dress with a hat that no one has seen

anyone wear in 500 years. That's a hat you could have a spy glass and sight land for your scurvied sailors. Exactly. Look at that. Look at that thing. Are you kidding me? He's like a mushroom, man. He's like Toad grown up from fucking Mario Brothers. Yeah. He's like Toad's

antimatter. Like, look at him. He's in black. He probably stole the princess. You know, it's funny. You know, we're all fucking chimps. We're all chimps, right? You're a chimp. Yeah, I love the idea, too, that that slur is most often thrown out by the least evolved amongst

us. Right. Or the ones who don't believe in evolution. Evolution? No way! I ain't descended from no monkey. I ain't no monkey. That black dude looks like a monkey. You are a chimp. I dropped out of the third grade. That was hard.

There's chimps that can sign more words than you can. But what the scriptures are anxious to say, it's far more important that we be spiritually strong as a nation than that we be militarily strong. It's not enough to be militarily strong. If we are militarily strong, but we are spiritually weak as a strong if we are militarily strong but we are spiritually weak as a nation we are going to go down and that's why it's critical i believe to have a commander-in-chief who is a christian in chief first and then is our commander-in-chief this starts from right wing watch jim baker god haters are working to remove all the crosses from arlington national cemetery that's not happening Don't touch God's anointed.

Never. Yeah, because they slip right out of your hands. It's like you can't grab them. It's like a pig that they hold up. They just slide right out. Like a bar of soap in the bathtub. They're all anointed.

What are you going to do? You can't even grab them. You're going to see some things happen. You're going to say, my God, my God, why are people falling over dead? That's right.

Yeah, I would if there were just people falling over dead Like, you know, it's like what? You're like at the grocery store I hope they die really dramatically Like, if they have to die Like, I want to like a four-minute death scene Where they like grab their heart

Like the guy from Sanford and Son He's like, Elizabeth, I'm coming, Elizabeth Like, I want to see people die like that I want every single one woman to be like, Soylent Green is people! It's made from people. We just spoiled that movie, Tom. Jesus.

Don't watch Soylent Green because it's made from people. Rosebud's a slut. Because they touch God's anointing. It's true. It's true. Okay, I had his permission. It was fine.

I asked him. If it's anointed, probably means I want you to touch it. What are we oiling it probably means I want you to touch it what are we oiling it up for what are we lubing it up for the reason is the friction of the touch that's why I oiled it up people who have blasphemed Billy Graham's memory

it's on the internet not his memory Jesus when I die I hope people blaspheme the shit out of my memory. I hope people remember me wrong. Tell lies about... I'm dead.

Yeah, I want... I'm dead. I want at my funeral, everybody to stand up and tell their favorite lie about me. That's what I want. I want a whole room of people. I want it to be like

that big fish funeral. Right? And one time he fought a giant. I'm like, that's what I want. My whole funeral to be. I want everybody time he fought a giant. I'm like, that's what I want. My whole funeral to be. I want everybody to make up a story. Who would care?

You're fucking dead. Also, like, but even in this mythology, right? Like, you're in heaven. You're in eternal bliss. You look down and be like, huh. You get blowjobs by angels like all the time. No sexual contact. No sexual contact.

What? No sexual contact. Come on. You're in heaven. In heaven? You're in heaven. I thought it was heaven though. That's very confusing. I thought it was just edging for life.

It's edging for heaven. Just, ah, right at the moment of the heat death of the universe, you pop. And it starts back up again. That's the big bang. That's the second big bang. Medium bang. Nobody's ever been that gracious to me. It was an okay bang.

Good game. Oh, sick. They're so sick in America that they don't respect anything. Right. They don't respect God. No. It's because there's no God. Again, you know, like, look, like things either need to,

one, they need to exist, or two, they need to deserve the respect. I think there's two real simple prerequisites. Right. Like, the thing is, like, I don't disrespect God. Yeah, I don't care. Right?

I don't disrespect, you know, unicorns. Like, I don't, that's not a thing. Fuck unicorns, man. You know, like, I don't. Fucking pegasi and unicorns. I'm not disrespecting fucking Harry and the Hendersons. Like, it's not real. It's not real. You know what they're

talking about they're going to do now? They're going to remove all the crosses at the Great Cemetery in Washington. In where? Oh, that would be Washington. In Washington. In Washington. That, that would be Washington. In Washington. In Washington.

In Washington. That's spelled W-A-R idiot. Washington. That's spelled H-I-C-K Washington. Also, they're not. No. Also, they're just not. This is not happening.

Also, it's just not a thing. It's just not true. Not a thing. Well, they can't do that. Are you kidding? No, I'm not. How could they can't do that. Are you kidding? No, I'm not. How could they remove all the crosses at Arlington? That's where all the soldiers, millions of them are buried.

The white. Millions of them? Are there millions of people? Oh, you got to look it up. You got to look it up. You got to figure out how many. Millions of soldiers. I bet it's millions.

It's not millions. Buried. 400,000 people. It crosses our soldiers who were Ricky's age who died for this country. Did Ricky die for this country? Poor Ricky. Ricky!

Respect for those who have gone before. There's nothing like going to Arlington Cemetery and seeing that. There's nothing like the wonderful experience of remembering people who died probably for very little reason reason that's a lot of that was pointless

that could have been avoided I bet all of them though where they were dying they were like America motherfucker and then they died I'm sure all of them were like that all of them died by the way bravely in battle and not mostly from disease there's like a whole trench mouth section All of them died, by the way, bravely in battle and not mostly from disease.

There's like a whole trench mouth section. My goodness. There's nothing to respect anymore. Well, we have nothing to worry about. We're good. Our work is done. You want answers? I think I'm entitled.

You want answers. I want the truth. You can't handle the truth. This is also from the Friendly Atheist blog over at Patheos. Woman dies due to Gwyneth Paltrow endorsed bee sting acupuncture treatment. Oh. So if people don't know what the bee sting acupuncture thing is, it's very much what it sounds like. You take a bee and you let it sting you. You grab it.

No, you grab it by the face. You do, with tweezers. You grab its face as hard as you can. Right. And then you touch its fucking little shaky butt to you. Right. And then it stings you. Cephalothorax or whatever it's called.

Cephalothorax. That's the only thing I remember from insects. And I got to say it every time. That's all I remember from my biology class 500 years ago is thorax and cephalothorax. When they first discovered the bee. When they're like, this is a flying animal we call the bee. Merlin showed us the bee. Anyway, they grab this bee forcibly by its face,

and then they stick its ass on you, and it fucking stings you, and it probably hurts. Yeah, well, scroll down, because I want to tell people why the patient got this. The patient opted for the controversial sting therapy to improve, quote, muscular contractures.

Contractures! And stress. Contractures? I am not sure why my muscular contractures. Contractures? And stress. I'm not sure why my muscular contractures need to be... Muscular contractures are a condition or shortening and hardening of muscles, tendons, or other tissue,

often leading to deformity and rigidity of joints. Deformity? Wait, so improve your deformity? Yeah, I had... Wait, so improve your deformity? Yeah, I had. I want to improve my deformity. Is there any way to do that? I guess if you want to change it, you want to improve it. Have you tried bees?

Yeah. Have you tried bees? I want to improve on my deformity. Does it mean add to your deformity, though? That's what I'm curious. I'm shaped all fucked up because my fucking muscles are all jigger-flabbled right i got the permanent hunchback in notre dame grabber i need a grabber can you make it a grabber anyway they get stung by these bees hold on a second have you ever been stung by me yeah was it stressful

unpleasant that's for a little stressful did i ever tell you the story about me getting stung in the face what did i ever tell you the story about me getting stung in the face? What? Did I ever tell you the story about me getting stung in the face? Is it where the bee wiggles its butt? It wasn't a bee. It was one of those mud daubers. Okay, that's a wasp. That's a kind of wasp. So I was on the top of this like, when I was a kid we used to steal cigarettes

from my dad and we climbed into this you know like those pavilions that they have? They're all over the place. Like we even had the first picnic the only picnic we had. We had one at a pavilion. It's like one of these things where there's like, there's nothing there except for a concrete slab. Now, these are common in Illinois. I have no idea how common they are in other places in the United States. But in Illinois, they're all over the place at city parks.

Basically, what it is, is it's just a concrete slab in the ground with poles that hold up a roof. Like an A-frame roof. And we climbed up into the air, A-frame, my buddy and I were smoking cigarettes up there. And my dad, um, had always told me,

don't swat at bees. Don't swat at them. Yeah. My dad told me the same thing. Don't swat at them. Just leave them alone. They won't hurt you. And so the bee jumps,

the bee, it's not a bee, it's a mud dauber. It's flying around our head. And it sounds like a fucking Huey Chellic helicopter. It's like boogity, boogity, boogity, boogity. Because it's fucking huge. And whenever they get by your ear, no matter what, I don't care how, I don't care.

You can be the biggest guy in the world. You're going to fucking move your arms and run, right? Like it doesn't matter how tough you are. If a bee goes near your ear, you freak out. It triggers your fucking animal brain to get out it's your fucking ASMR trigger like you're immediately like freaked out he jerks off to it he sticks bees in his headphones

and he jerks off to it anyway I'm up there and my buddy as soon as the bee comes by or the mud dauber starts flying around us he jumps he just jumps right down and I immediately stay and I'm like no if I'm I'll be calm.

The thing won't touch me. And it spins around my head once, spins around my head twice. And it lands on my cheek. And I'm just like, don't swat it. Don't swat it. Don't swat it. I'm looking right at it. And it goes, burp, burp, burp.

And it's swinging its ass back and forth. It's like, burp, burp, burp, burp, burp. And it goes, whew. And it fucking stabbed me right in the cheek. I'm like, ah! And it fucking swatted right off my face. And then I fall off the top of the thing and land. And I'm fucked up, and I get up,

and I hobble home. And for the next four or five days, I had this huge fucking, because when they sting you, they evidently inject 20 pounds of serum in your face. So my fucking head i look like a fuck i look like the elephant man i got this fucking shy weird eye it never went away do you remember do you remember when uh when the guy uh do you ever see the movie uh top secret

when he pulls the the the the magnifying glass away from his eye and his eyes that's my eye that That was my eye. So yeah, it was fucked up. It was stupid fucked up. But I, it's because I didn't swat the pee. I should have swatted the fucking thing out of my face. Instead, I just stood there like an asshole and it hit me. So yes, it hurts a lot.

And so not a cure for stress? I don't know. Did she fall off some high place? Because it sounds to me like it's neither a cure for stress nor deformity. It sounds like it's... What it is, though, a way to die if you go into anaphylactic shock, it turns out. It is true. Wouldn't you think if you ran this place, you'd be like, we got a lot of EpiPens in here. What do you think?

You would ask people like, hey, you allergic to bees? I've never been stung by a bee. You're going to need to go do that somewhere else first. Right, yeah. Don't bring your first bee stinging into the sting emporium. We don't take bee sting virgins. Right. This is your first rodeo.

You're not having it here. Yeah. Right? But evidently, she went in there. She died. And she fucking died. She died from it. And this is a thing that G that gwyneth paltrow

promotes yeah well this this fucking get stung by bees therapy is the craziest thing bees just fucking inject shitty shitty toxins into you that's like bee stinging isn't good for you that's why the bees sting you right it's like It's like... And if you're gonna get stung by bees, at least go dig into their hive and get some honey out of the deal. You know what I mean? Get some straight poo bear up in that shit. Get up in there, yeah. It's like

a wolverine doesn't bite you to cure you from cancer. It bites you because you're fucking too close to a wolverine. Are you kidding me? The fuck is wrong with you assholes? There's a guy who's like staged from leukemia with like five fucking Wolverines on his back. So we are joined now by Mario Muta, the author of Tiny Thinkers. Welcome to the program, Mario.

Thanks for having me. I'm a huge fan of your show. So tell us, if our audience hasn't heard of your books, tell them about the books. Tell them what you do. All right. What I did was about seven years ago, I wrote a bunch of science stories for my daughter, Lila. And then a couple of years ago, I decided to put them out there to try to see if anybody would want to publish them. And then we basically self-published the books. And then I went to BEA, which is a Book Expo America,

and we got picked up by a publisher there. So there's 40 science stories about scientists. You wrote 40 stories for your daughter? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh my God, I have four kids. I don't love any of them as much combined to write

40 stories. Jesus, that'd be 10 stories a kid. Sounds like a lot. I wouldn't even read them all 10 stories. I wouldn't even say 40 words to them in their entire youth. Jesus Christ. You probably would if you were from where I'm originally from, which is South Louisiana, where science isn't paramount, and you walk

out of school possibly thinking the Earth's, you know, just happened. So from South Louisiana, was it difficult for you to learn to read and write in order for you to write these books first? Like, that seems like a high bar. And do the alligator teachers wear ties? I think they do.

I think they do. I've always wondered. And like, are you righty or lefty when you hold the crawdad to right? Like, is it? I don't know. So mean. Ambidextrous in that respect. You're just dipping a crawdad in some ink. And its tail is flailing.

And making your squiggles for you. That's amazing. Yeah. So I wrote six. I actually wrote about 60 books using the crawdad. Only, only about 40 of them are good.

My wife says the other 20 suck. The crawdad loves them. I love it. The other 20, like the only ones I excite, the ones that suck, I only expose to my kids. You know?

And I use the same crawdad on all of them. This pen is good, Ethan. Oh, man. It's amazing. I guarantee. I do love also the idea that somebody would say they're from South Louisiana. Man, in Illinois, all of Louisiana is South

Louisiana. Nobody's making that differentiation like, oh, he's from Northern Louisiana. One of those uppity Northerners. They are uppity. Oh, he's one of those three-toothed Northern Louisianers or whatever. Actually, the difference

in why people differentiate that is because the Southern half is a Cajun Creole culture. And the northern half, everybody's a shade tree mechanic. Has no culture. Jesus Christ. Everybody in North Louisiana is a shade tree mechanic. Everybody in the south part has a little bit of diversity in culture. Okay. So you wrote these books.

You said they're science books. What are they about? So each book is about a different scientist, like Charles Darwin. The first book was Charlie and the Tortoise, which is about Charles Darwin, a trip to the Galapagos. Evolution is basically behind that one. The next book is Richie Doodles about Richard Feynman. It talks about Feynman diagrams, subatomic particle interactions, but for a four-year-old.

So I'm not trying to make a quantum mechanic. I'm just trying to, you know, four-year-old go, hey, Adams. What prompted you? So obviously, you know, you're from South Louisiana. You grew up, you know, in you're you're from south louisiana you grew up you know in an area where science wasn't terribly valued you said and so did you feel that there was a a lack of this kind of material for children is that what prompted you to write these books rather than find them yourself yeah absolutely and and uh keeping my my kids uh went to uh a public school here in Aurora.

So it's also here as well, a little bit. Yeah. We ran into it at this school. But what prompted me for it was I went to school. I was never inspired to do anything other than work in an oil refinery. So basically the general culture down there and the general idea that people have is I don't really have to participate in school because when I get out, I'm going to go get a job in an oil refinery. It doesn't require a degree. It just requires me to be able to turn a valve and think a little. And not be on fire most of the time.

Most of the time, yeah. Yeah, some of the time. Because if you're on fire the whole time, that's fucking slacking off. Now you're right by the ocean. You just dive in. You'll be fine. But then you light the ocean on fire. I was going to say. Yeah, you're right fire the whole time, that's fucking slacking off. Now you're just wanting attention. You just dive in the ocean. You'll be fine. But then you light the ocean on fire. I was going to say.

Yeah, you're right. Okay, my bad. Stop. Maybe learn something. Science. Pick up a tiny thinker's book, Cecil. Yeah, and then for a girl, it's even worse because if you're a girl down there, there's some people that look down at you. If you don't have your your i made a baby by 15

badge you know oh my god you know they were giving out badges for that now but that is they got badges and everything i done got impregnated badge so that that's that's a stretch but typically an educated woman down there would go on to be a nurse uh potentially a doctor uh very seldom or or a school teacher so that they can stay at their little rural anchored area because families are a bit tight knit. Sure. And so I didn't want my girls to be pigeonholed in that mentality that, you know, you just need to do what you need to do to stay around here and let them venture out. Right. I didn't just write them science books. That's the only ones I put out right now. I wrote them books about thinking

outside the box or stuff to that nature as well. That's terrific, man. I love the idea that you've got this, I mean, all jokes aside, that you go out and you start looking for books that have the kind of um more complex but positive moral messages outside of the sort of very simplistic bullshit that a lot of kids literature is like real little kids literature is you know like stealing is bad like and it's like they can do more than that kids can absorb more than that yeah and i recently had a article written about me in the local paper down there and they were extremely excited that there was a somebody had wrote a children's book down there that wasn't about an alligator or or a mosquito or or a crawfish i'm pretty sure there's a mosquito i'm pretty sure that was a crawfish going, God damn it, I gotta write another fucking book.

It was like, in the bayou, just like putting its fucking Pulitzer by the mud. Just like, another one. Fuck me. Somebody catch me in a net and pull my head off. Oh, man. But the fortunate thing is, is a newspaper wrote a positive article about me

in South Louisiana when I have a book about evolution out. So I think that, that is, that is terrific. So, sorry. So you've, you've got these books, you've got the 40, it's a huge series of books. Um, they've obviously been pretty well received. So what, what are your, what are your hopes for this series? Well, the, the, the hopes is that all four, I'm not going to, at the pace they're coming out, I'm not going to live to see all 40 books come out. It's nice. They'll be out next week, but you're from Louisiana.

Yeah, I'm from Louisiana. I don't live a life conducive toward living. I eat what's called cracklins, which is like a pound of pig fat for a snack. Okay. All right. I've had cracklins. You make them sound bad. It's pig fat, but they deep fry for health reasons. Oh yeah. Yeah. Cracklins wonderful. Let's get the trichinosis out of it. It's wonderful, but, but it will kill you Cecil. Oh sure. Yeah. Hell yeah.

No. How, how, how fast are they coming out though? The books is just going to be one every spring and one every fall. And, but you know, I'd like that pace to be picked up, but you know, it is what it is. I don't know the book industry as well as publishers do. So if they're saying that's the way to go, then I'm sure that's the way to go. I'm just happy they're getting out. I mean, how cool is it that a book I wrote for my kids is on my kid's bookshelf, you know, or at Barnes and Noble. Yeah. Hell yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. And now do you, did you, you said you didn't

illustrate them. Did you find the illustrator or did they find the illustrator? How did that work? I found the illustrator and, uh, you guys, I hope you don't make a joke out of this, but you know, glory hole. Yeah. So, so I found an illustrator and he was, he actually was a career, uh, NATO, uh, like commander guy. He was a military guy. Yeah. He wrote the Darwin book. Super excited. He was from Greece.

So he finished the book on the day he mailed me his illustrations he died oh my god yes so oh well i'm glad he finished yeah at least he got it done you know because it would have been rude otherwise that's why they call it a deadline so anyway it's going to be a series of a bunch of books so you can't have one book drawn one way and then it drawn the other way so uh and i had already paid the guy uh so i just scrapped it and i put it away and maybe someday i'll put out a version of the charlie and the tortoise book with his because it was done uh by painting he he painted in watercolor oh my god wow and so then i hired another illustrator who couldn't draw fucking birds. He was kidnapped.

So the first guy, this one was kidnapped. It was bad. This one's buried in a hole in the desert. So I hired my 17th illustrator. Mario, we have to go. It's been three hours. The book still isn't illustrated. Yeah.

So it was a female. She sent me the book. And I'm like, all right, yeah, the illustrations look wonderful, but it's Charles Darwin, so we need to draw some finches in there. And she says, okay, no problem. And then she sends back, and it's got her illustration, but it's got some copy and pasted birds everywhere that don't look. And I was like, that's copy and pasted birds you got off the internet. And she's like, sorry, I can't draw birds. You drew a fucking rabbit, a turtle. You drew an ant and a mosquito hawk, and you can't draw a bird.

Oh, that's hilarious. I don't do birds. Yeah, I don't do birds or windows. Those are the things. I don't do birds or windows. Birds don't do windows either. They do them just once. And those two illustrators were foreign.

So I go, well, I'll hire an American illustrator to do this. And she got one illustration in and she goes, she said, yeah, this is too much fucking work for me. I'm out. Jesus, man. Who ended up illustrating these books? Going through illustrators. Now I'm in very good respect with a guy named Hezreal Cuevas, who I met through

a website called Freelancer. And what I did was I held a contest on Freelancer where I paid, I think it was like $250 to somebody who could draw me a cover of a Charles Darwin book. And I just left it vague. And Hezreal was one of the contestants.

Now, he didn't win the $250 because there was one that was just freaking phenomenal. But the cost of me having somebody illustrate it that was of that year, the quote they give me and such was outrageous. Hez was right up there, but his, uh, his enthusiasm, I mean, he reached out to me separate from the contest going, I love science. I want to do these books, you know, and you know, how could you say no when someone's that enthusiastic? I got, I got a question. So you've written 40 of these, these books for the kids. What's your favorite one? My favorite one is Garrett Morgan,

who was an African-American,-American inventor in Cleveland, Ohio. And he invented what is is to later became like the gas mask. But what's awesome about his story is and I don't I don't veer away from the racism part in the book is that he used to have to hire a white actor to sell his products. And then he would dress up like an Indian, like Tonto, and demonstrate these products. Oh my God, really? Yeah. And so, because he was trying to sell stuff down South and he was having to do that. And he would pretend he was an Indian from what's called a Wapoli tribe in Canada or what have you. He had his elaborate story. But anyway, what ended up happening to him is a fireman, people had seen him demonstrate this, but it wasn't a gas mask. It was a smoke mask. It was a mask and it had a cord that went to the ground so you could get

air down there rather than in the smoke. Cleveland, I believe 1916, they were putting a new water, basically the water pipe that goes out to the crib like you see in Lake Michigan. And it was underground where there was an explosion. They went and got Garrett Morgan. He and his brother put the mask on. And the first rescuers went in there and didn't come back. Garrett Morgan and his brother ran in there and started pulling people out. Holy shit.

Wow. It's a fascinating story. Morgan and his brother ran in there and started pulling people out. Holy shit. Yeah. So fascinating story. It's a fascinating story. But the reason why I love that story so much is because I was able to do it. I was able to tackle the racism part. And how many stories do African-American kids have with a black hero? Yeah, this guy is a real hero. You can say, oh, man, Batman and Iron Man, they're superheroes. Well, they didn't have any fucking powers. They just had nice suits. Garrett Morgan, he's a superhero.

He had an awesome suit, you know? That's pretty great. Is it difficult? Do you find it difficult to relate any complex things to children? Or do you just try to make it as simple as possible? What's your plan when you do that sort of thing? Yeah, and what's the age range for these books? They usually list the age range as one to eight years old. The age range that I was really

shooting for was the time that I wrote them for my kid, which was between four and six years old. And so basically what I do, all the books are in rhyme form, so I'll probably mess this up severely, but I'll give you a little insight into how I do it. So in the, say, the Richard Feynman book, to explain how small these subatomic particles are, how small things are that we know exist. It'll say, hold up your thumb for a second or two, and you can find out what a small particle can do. Billions can pass through your thumb without slowing, and they do it all the time without you even knowing. So a kid can understand that. We have a Carl Sagan book, which you should see in April of next year. And it's, you know,l sagan uh the true story of carl sagan is is he wanted to know uh he had a question what is a star he asked his mother his mother didn't give him an

answer she gave him a library card and said go find out and he goes to the library and he says hey i i want to i need a book about stars And the librarian goes and brings him a book about celebrities. He was going, no, son. And so this is this is a true story. So Carl Sagan, he at that moment, he realizes that the sun is a star from the book he read. And then he realized that, you know, if the sun is a star, then every twinkle in light out there is a sun that could possibly have a planet. You know, and I think I put it as, wow, Carl's mind started to race. Every star in the sky is a sun for some place. And our world would be just a twinkle of light when viewed from the planet of another star on that planet's night.

So everything's in rhyme form. That's pretty great, man. That's really great. Yeah. So do you get to, do you get to choose the order that they're published in? Like do you get, so is the Garrett Morgan one going to come out like, or is it out? Well, the Garrett Morgan, there's only two books out right now. It's Charlie and the Tortoise and there is Richie Doodles. The next book out is going to be Rachel Carson, which founded the environmental movement. She wrote a book called Silent Spring, which, you know, basically asks the question, we know how things

help us, but how does it hurt? Which is an easy title for a children's book, you know, to write about that. So I have a whole lot of love for the Rachel book that'll be out. That's going to be out in September. Carl Sagan will be out in April. After that, the Garrett Morgan book, or it'll either be Garrett Morgan or George Washington Carver, because we want to show that the series is a diverse series. Well, you said you had two out.

If people were going to find your books, where would they look? Well, you can buy them on Amazon, which Amazon's probably the easiest choice for people, but some people don't like Amazon's practices. But basically, I tell people wherever books are sold, if you know a bookstore, you can walk in. If they don't have it on the shelf, they'll order it. They'll have it in a day. We'll put links to all that on this week's show

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should be thinking about at this point. Several people sent in messages that there were either are quote unquote space forces now, or they're starting to train or they're starting to create this sort of new branch of the, of the military. Um, I also want to mention too, that when we were talking about it, I know I did, I inserted a lot of thoughts about how it would work in the sense, like, um, astronauts, like fighting in space and whatnot. And it never said anything like that. I was, it was pure comedic value that we were using. I was not really thinking about it in any way that was logical. It was just him saying stuff and I was just playing around.

But I do recognize that absolutely there is something to this that is very serious in nature that I want to make sure that we recognize. nature that I want to make sure that we recognize. There's obviously, there's a lot of strategic value in the satellite systems that are up in space, you know, for communication and surveillance. And the value of those systems can't probably be overstated. So protecting and maintaining those, as well as destroying those of our enemies, is a real thing. I just think Donald Trump saying Space Force is amazing. And also because he says it several

times and it's just kind of funny. He sounds like a fucking Goomba and I don't think he has any... It's not like he says, in our defense, it's not like he says, I think we should have Space Force because I think there's tremendous strategic and military value in our satellite systems for communication and surveillance purposes. Instead,

he says, Space Force, I think we need a Space Force. What about the Space Force? Tremendous. We have the Air Force. Why not the Space Force? He doesn't say anything except for tremendous. We got an image from Sakura, and it is amazing. She drew a corner

witch for us, so we're going to post it on this week's show notes. This is episode 406, so check it out. Very funny. We also got an image from Don't Spam Me, Bruh, and they sent along this image of that's just a Pat Holiday quote from last episode. You

got to check it out, especially if you're a Looney Tunes fan. It's very funny. We got a correction from Matt. This is great. He said, Stephen Hawking is not going to hell for the history of time. Like you said, he's going to hell for the brief history of time. It's very true. Okay.

Yeah. That's very true. You got us on that. It's pretty great. You definitely got us. It's pretty great. We got a message from Lisa who told us about an incident. Her mother is a dentist.

And someone comes in and has these really beautiful teeth and they've had beautiful teeth for a long time and then they go away for a while, come back for the next cleaning and it's a fucking horror show in there. And then they ask the lady, did you change your diet? Have you been drinking sour drinks? The lady's like, no, I just changed my toothpaste

to an aloe vera toothpaste that doesn't include fluoride. What do you have, a sunburn on your teeth? Can you imagine grabbing one of those aloe vera toothpaste that doesn't include fluoride. What do you have, a sunburn on your teeth? Could you imagine grabbing one of those aloe vera and just rubbing your teeth with it? I just think it's hilarious. So thanks, Senator. Thanks for saying it, Lisa. Very funny.

We got an image, Tom. This image is from Elaine, and it is a treason weasel image. It's amazing. So we're going to post it on this week's show notes. It's a cross-stitch treason weasel. It's amazing. So we're going to post it on this week's show notes. And it's a cross-stitch treason weasel. It's a cross-stitch. It's amazing. So we're going to post it on this week's show notes. Thanks for sending it, Elaine. Very, very funny.

We got a message from Alan, and it is a video. Oh, God. And here's what he said. Thought you'd enjoy this. Guy on YouTube dubs over concerts of shitty bands to accurately represent how shitty they are. And it's Nickelback. It's hilarious.

It's so good. We were watching it. We were laughing our ass off. It's so good. It's just basically somebody, it's almost like if you've seen bad lip reading, it's kind of like that. It's like bad lip reading and they play the music really badly and sing really badly. I don't even know if those are lyrics, but they're just singing. I don't know. I think it's very similar to

bad lip reading. So we'll post it on this week's show notes. It's pretty hilarious. So thanks for sending in, Alan. We got a... Somebody made a montage of our Space Force bit. So this was from last week.

This is... This is Mosh sent this in. Space Force! Tremendous! I love you, Space Force! He's so fucking stupid! We put lasers in space! Space Force? We claim space! put lasers in space. Space force?

We claim space. Star date. Who cares? I quit. That's good. I like the pew pew in there. Very funny. We got a message from Katie and Katie says that she's having problems in Pittsburgh.

Evidently, there's a group in Pittsburgh called the Pittsburgh Free Thought Community. It has 2,000 members, but the meetups are normally relatively small. Just wondering where she can go, like how to meet up with people and stuff like that. And my suggestion to you, Katie, is get to conferences, the bigger conferences. You might want to go to next year,

go to NanaCon that happened in Nashville. I guess that's relatively nearby, somewhat, something close. I guess Pittsburgh should be near-ish that. There's also ReasonCon that happens. It's another one that we've been to a couple of times that we like. The American Atheist Convention. American Atheist has happened, and I'll be there this upcoming week. But there's, you know, that's something to take a look at.

Apostacon, there's Skepticon that happens in Springfield, Missouri. There's Imagine No Religion, which happens in the northern, northwest part of the States. I think it's Vancouver. There's another one that happens, LA, the one that's in LA. I forget what that one's called. Logical LA. Logical LA happens.

So there's a lot of- There's MythCon. There's, oh, stay with that. There's a lot of conferences you can go to. There's also some overseas. You know, we found that even in Chicago, stay with that. There's a lot of conferences you can go to. There's also some overseas. You know, we found that, uh, that even in Chicago, there's just not like, there's a humanist group that we met up with once. Um, we've also met some of the atheist groups, but they're relatively small. They don't, they don't get together very often. So, um, so my suggestion to you is see if

you can get to some of these cons, you'll get a chance to meet people. You might even meet people from your area. We got a message from Joe and Joe's wondering, she says, I was watching the news on CNN and watching a montage of Trump's finest moments. And I can't help but wonder how on earth America will begin to recover when this clown, when this clown show is over. Basically, are we going to be able to recover

from this sort of, there's this agenda, this vindictive behavior, shitty behavior. Today he tweeted out that he was going to fist fight Joe Biden. And it's like I still would watch this. I would too. Are we going to get to a point where this is going to be the norm? And I genuinely

don't think so. I think that after this president goes away, I will be surprised and that's not so surprised that I'll like fall over dead. But I will be surprised if this is not a if this is the if this sort of thing doesn't just go away and we sort of revert back instead to what was, you know, I think a more. Conservative approach towards the the way in which the the president deals with the people yeah a more generally considered stately or diplomatic right standard kind of sure president yeah sure i think i i would like to agree with that i think i think we could see

i i don't know man like i part of me wonders if we will see the effectiveness of campaign styles like Trump's rear their heads again. I mean, it was. That's true. That's true. So there's people who are going to take lessons from that. They're going to say, hey, this was effective. It wasn't right, but it was effective. Sure.

And so I do worry that what we'll have is a celebrity in chief again someday. Yeah, maybe, maybe that's the thing we can ever get away from. Maybe that's something that we can't ever, but I, it's hard for me to wrap my head around that. I feel like, like this experiment is not going well. Do you think it's not going well for, for their side? I think that they're constantly on the defensive because he's such a loose cannon. A crazy person, yeah. He's such a twat that they're constantly on the defensive

and they're constantly having to defend this guy. Yeah, I don't think you're wrong about that. I wonder if they're constantly, they're just like at a certain point, they're just, and I'm even seeing some right-wing people like today, especially when he posted this, like some of these right-wing people

are just like, what a fucking clown. We want to thank Mario Mouton for joining us today. He's the author of the Tiny Thinkers books. We're going to post links to those books on this week's show notes. It's coming up on Easter. So if you want to give somebody a secular gift, a little kid, a secular little gift in their secular Easter baskets.

We give our kids secular Easter baskets. Yeah, it's just they only give a shit about his candy. Yeah, sure. You know, they don't give a fuck. Yeah. So So yeah, if you want to get a gift for a kid, that might be a good gift to give. We'll put links on this week's show notes. It is episode 406. We want to thank Mario for joining us.

So as a reminder, I will be at the Atheist Conference this week. Upcoming week, I will be at the American Atheist Convention in Oklahoma City. So if you're there, shoot me a message on Twitter or shoot me a message in Facebook or something or via email and we'll see if we can hook up and meet. Maybe go to the bar for a drink. I'd love to meet people who listen to the show. So if you're going to be there, come find me. That's going to wrap it up for this week.

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