Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 412: Cancel America

Episode Date: May 7, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:39 my ass off when you guys were talking about the Highlander. The guy that played the Kurgan Clancy Brown because because he's in all kinds of stuff from, you know, Shawshank Redemption as a prison guard to the voice of Mr. Krabs in Spongebob now. So every time I see the Highlander movie, I can't help but think
Starting point is 00:00:56 of that. But yeah, check him out sometime. The guy's got a huge frickin' acting list. Anyways, oil. Take it easy, guys. Hello, boys. It is Hunter from Oklahoma again. anyways uh royal dig at you guys hello boys it is uh hunter from oklahoma again just wanted to say i finally got to the 200th episode
Starting point is 00:01:14 and got to listen to uh you and noah and heath and i just it was very cool getting late into the podcast and already meeting you guys you know seeing the dynamic you guys have on Citation Media and kind of see the beginnings of that. You know, you guys just talking and shit. Well, I thought that was super fucking cool.
Starting point is 00:01:35 So, yeah, glory hole, motherfuckers. Bro, I don't know where the fuck y'all have been or not, or where the fuck I've been, but I found y'all goddamn three weeks ago, and I've been listening to y'all motherfuckers, like, hours upon hours at work, man. Y'all motherfuckers get me cracked up, dude. So whenever you guys decide to touch down in Tennessee, I got a blunt on me for y'all.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Much love, man. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. Recording live from Glory Hole Studios in chicago this is cognitive dissonance every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way we bring critical thinking skepticism and irreverence to any topic that makes the news makes it big or makes us mad it's skeptical it's political and there is no welcome at this episode 412 cognitive dissonance this is uh i'm i'm glad to be back yeah in chicago from the dominican republic i want to say uh that place is ugly and anybody who wants to send me there as punishment you can at any time it's hide. I hate looking at the ocean.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Why don't we live there? It's so terrible here. Why don't we live someplace beautiful, Cecil? We do live someplace beautiful, but only in like very small segments. For like a minute. But like, it's like, it's nice for like an hour and 28 minutes.
Starting point is 00:03:41 And like, if you missed it because you were napping or at work. It's so funny. Like last week, I walk out of the house and I'm just like in my fucking full on coat. And I'm like, it's fucking almost May for Christ's sakes. And it's like, it's like 30 degrees out. I know. Like it for the longest time forever. It snowed. I got married.
Starting point is 00:04:02 It snowed one day. I got married. It was 55 degrees degrees i got an airplane for a week i came back it's 85 yeah what the fuck is going on over here 85 is not bad i know but i'm just saying like i want to live there yeah in a resort that's i discovered that that's actually where i think i'm i'm best turns It turns out. Where you can eat all that you want. They mean that.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I didn't think that they would. They weren't like shooing you away with a broom. You ever get like esophagus full? Oh yeah. You know where you're just like if I eat anymore it'll just hit my back teeth. You're just like I'm just gonna hold it in my mouth and wait.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I'll use this as part of my digestive system. I packed a Vitamix plunger and just... Yeah, exactly. Use a stick blender. Just go right in there. You could, yeah,
Starting point is 00:04:57 you get rid of the chicken bones. I know when you're out with other kids, kind of hard sometimes to even admit you're Christian. The story is from Right Wing Watch. This is kind of amazing. Now, a lot of times Right Wing Watch will have like a somewhat misleading title.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yeah, they won't say the exact thing. This is not one of them. Jewish people and other non-Christians don't have First Amendment rights. Now, let's listen to him. Sure. Let's give him an opportunity. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:05:27 To explain. Just want to finish up on our conversation about whether. The fuck is that? Is he like spy versus spy? Hey, let's play some shitty jazz music while we go ahead and have this semi-racist tirade. It's like fanfare jazz. Wiccans, that is, worshippers of the devil, followers of witchcraft, whether they have first... Are they worshippers of the devil?
Starting point is 00:05:54 I think they just want to be naked. They're basically like six-year-olds that are just like, I don't want to wear pants. That just... Their bodies got bigger. Six-year-olds? That's it. Their bodies.... Six-year-olds? That's it. Their bodies. Only six-year-olds?
Starting point is 00:06:08 No, it's just the rest of us are just like, ugh, I have to wear pants. Wickedism is just an excuse to be outside with your balls. That's it. Amendment rights under our Constitution. And the answer is that they do not. That's how I would read. They don't get First Amendment rights in the Constitution? No, answer is that they do not. That's how I would read. They don't get First Amendment rights in the Constitution?
Starting point is 00:06:28 No, because they're wicked. Wait, so don't all people get... If you're a citizen, don't you always get the rights? Can you do me a favor? Would you call up the Bill of Rights for me so I can read? I can read right now. The First Amendment. Congress shall make no law respecting an
Starting point is 00:06:44 establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of speech or of the press or the right of the people to peaceably assemble and to petition the government for redress of grievances. Unless they're not Christian. You missed that part at the end. The asterisk. Do you see the a part at the end. The asterisk. Do you see the asterisk? Look for the asterisk. A lot of people miss this. You look for the asterisk
Starting point is 00:07:11 and then down below, it's like a footnote and it says unless they're not Christian. By Thomas Jefferson. Yeah. He like put a little, he just initialed it TJ. He said right there, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Yeah. All people get that. Like, but, you you know and no wiccans don't and when when he says they like they like the devil yeah uh you know it's interesting because what this guy is saying is like look if you're a different religion you don't get this particular right you don't get this right they They could have easily just said Christianity instead of religion. Yeah. You wouldn't need the first part of that about the government not establishing if the government was intending to establish. That's true too, right? You would not create a... And you wouldn't say the word religion. You would say Christianity. Because you would be specific
Starting point is 00:08:02 in your language and when you're making a legal document, that's kind of what you do. Only if you're like creating a government from scratch, for example. Like with full intentionality about what that means. It's not like this is sloppy fucking word choice. It's not like somebody's like, I don't know, it's really a first draft.
Starting point is 00:08:20 That's what they treat it as. They genuinely are like, no, what they really meant was no, what they meant was what they wrote, which says religion. And religion means it's ubiquitous term that encompasses religion in general. Unless you're unless Brian Fisher is suggesting that Wiccanism is not a religion. That could be. That could be. The blunt, simple, direct, straightforward answer is that Wiccans do not have First Amendment rights, nor do Muslims,
Starting point is 00:08:46 nor do Jews, nor do... Like Jesus? Like Jesus. Still, America wasn't around back then, so he didn't have First Amendment rights. Now, if he comes back, and he legally immigrates, we might give him First Amendment rights.
Starting point is 00:09:01 He better not come from the South. He better not come... He better not come from the South. He better not come. Better not be Jesus. Another one. We won't. No, you pronounce it like a hard J. It's not. Let me over your wall. It's a hard J.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I say it different. It's a J-sus. You can't trick us, Jesus of Nazareth. Native Americans, nor do Rastafarians. us, Jesus of Nazareth. Who Native Americans, nor do Rastafarians. Wait, Native Americans? Yeah. What if they happen to be Christian? What if you converted? What if, did they apply for
Starting point is 00:09:34 citizenship, Native Americans? Wait a minute, for real Native Americans? Can we build a wall around their reservations? Holy shit! Yeah, listen, you're not a real American. It's like I'm the fucking realiest American. You know what we'll do? We'll build a wall around their reservations, a wall of poverty.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Well, we built that in there. Yeah, okay. Nailed it. It's kind of like a swimming pool of poverty. It's like a moat. Nor do any practitioners of any other religion other than Christianity. Because Joseph, and again, I'm just quoting Joseph's story, so this is not my idea. Who?
Starting point is 00:10:10 Joseph's story, Tom. Oh. Yeah. Was he one of the founding fathers? I don't know. Let's find out. I didn't come up with this idea. This is Joseph's story, the eminent historian of the First Amendment.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Ah, the eminent historian of the First Amendment. Right. So he read it just like we did. I see. He has an opinion on it that's eminent. Uh-huh. Yeah. Let's hear it.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And the Constitution. Look what the Founding Fathers were driving at here in the First Amendment. They weren't even considering Islam. They weren't even considering Judaism. They weren't even considering Native American religions. All they were dealing with, all they were considering was Christianity. So whatever the First Amendment is about, whatever protections it extends in the federal constitution, those were just for Christianity. So Christianity has First Amendment rights under the federal
Starting point is 00:10:58 constitution. No other religion does. That's just, that's just insane. That's just stupid because it literally, I mean, just change the word then. These guys were very specific in their language. These guys were hyper specific in their language. They used this word religion not as just to say, look, see religion. All uses of religion means Christianity.
Starting point is 00:11:18 They could have said, you're free to practice any form of Christianity here you'd like. But that's not what they said. They said a different thing. And it makes me laugh because like, I don't actually give a shit what the founding fathers said. I don't have their fucking cock squirting down the back of my throat all the
Starting point is 00:11:35 fucking time. These are the fucking First Amendment knob gobblers constantly like fucking mascara runs so hard for the fucking constitution. They're just like, oh, get in there. Fucking bruised a fucking uvula from fucking letting that thing ram the back of their fucking throat. And then they're just like, well, but I don't like it when it means the thing I don't like.
Starting point is 00:12:02 And then you're absolutely right because there's nothing special about this document. And if this document is something that we're saying, look, we're going to actually change it to say, look, all religions, we're going to change it. We could do that. We could change it. That's what it is. It's literally been amended.
Starting point is 00:12:22 This is an amendment we're talking about. That's what I'm saying. It's like they created a mechanism for the amendment. And then more than that, they also created a branch of the government designed to interpret it. That's what the Supreme Court does, which was created by the same document to interpret the document because we know that shit changes. And so we should be in constant consideration of it and also you know there's some fucking asshole rules rules lawyer who's always trying to fucking shove something in there that's like well it says it right here in this last little line and you're like get the fuck out and that's what the problem is i know there's all these people
Starting point is 00:12:58 like they want to they want to they want to chant that you guys don't have rights. Nobody else has rights but these Christians. And they miss the point that if one person loses their rights, if one religion loses their rights, all religions lose their rights. Religion conceptually is devalued conceptually. Well, that's your thing. Yeah. Why am I even yelling about it? That's not even my thing. Yeah. Why am I even yelling about it? That's not even my thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Abortions for all. Very well. No abortions for anyone. Abortions for some miniature American flags for others. This is fucked up. This is from the BBC. Iowa approves most restrictive abortion bill in the U.S. And holy shit, is it?
Starting point is 00:13:53 Yeah. It basically says no abortion if an ultrasound can detect a heartbeat. Yeah. And I heard that they're actually going to take out all the pregnancy tests and replace them with stethoscopes. Catch 22, motherfuckers. No more abortions ever. heard that they're actually going to take out all the pregnancy tests and replace them with stethoscopes. So, catch 22, motherfuckers! No more abortions ever!
Starting point is 00:14:09 That's fucking crazy. It's the heartbeat bill, right? And we've talked about this before. It's fucking insane. And it is a bill that is specifically designed to go to the Supreme Court. Yeah, that's what they said. They made it specifically to do that.
Starting point is 00:14:24 So, this shit is... You might as well make a bill that says, yeah, you actually have to... We're not going to allow abortion. You're going to have to go back in time and make sure he finishes
Starting point is 00:14:33 on your face. That's the new rule. We're going to make sure that that's in effect. This is going to be the pull-out bill. That's it. Pull-out bill?
Starting point is 00:14:42 Jesus! He did. He did on the dress. Yeah, and they they they yeah specifically they're making it to go to the supreme court does this not also feel like a great big fuck you fucking doomsday clock to ruth bader ginsburg like you know what i mean like you pass this bill and you're like ruth like oh oh really really you're putting like you and you're like, Ruth, like, oh. Oh, really? Really? You're putting, like, you're putting a fucking target on my back with that?
Starting point is 00:15:09 Yeah, pass it now. Oh, we got Ruth in it. No, no. We're not wearing it. Don't tell Ruth. But we think you're going to die. Now's a good time. Yeah. Well, they also have Gorsh in there.
Starting point is 00:15:25 They still are 5-4, which is, Right, but Gorsh is a replacement for Scalia. So like the court didn't shift. Court didn't shift. And they still are, like the last time
Starting point is 00:15:33 something abortion related came up, it still went 5-4 the other way. Because I think one of those conservative judges goes back and forth on abortion stuff.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Yeah, because he's not as conservative. As conservative as the others. Yeah, it's, it's, it's interesting. It's, you know, and I think you're right. judges goes back and forth on abortion. Cause he's not as conservative as the others. Um, yeah, it's, uh, it's,
Starting point is 00:15:47 it's interesting. It's, you know, and I think you're right. I think it's that, you know, they're sort of waiting for, they're seriously,
Starting point is 00:15:52 there's like, pass it now. We just don't think she's going to make it. Well, it's like, it's like, look how I can do her Fitbit and like send her doomsday messages. And you know,
Starting point is 00:16:03 but it starts flashing. Are you dead yet? It's like somebody like coming into your house and like trying her doomsday messages in there you know what it says flashing are you dead yet it's like somebody like coming into your house and like trying on your suit coats like oh this one will fit me like that's mine like not for long anyway here's your test results all this bullshit moralistic nonsense is just it's like it's it's like, we're just saying, I don't want to have a functional, I want to have a less functional society. I want less functional families. Like I'm not just like pro-choice, like I'm, I'm pro-abortion. Like anybody that doesn't want to have a kid that gets pregnant, everybody should abort that kid if you don't want it.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Nobody should have kids they don't want. Like, I can't imagine a scenario where that works out well except by accident, right? Like, it just fucking, it's not a thing. In the first trimester, it's not a thing. Sure. You don't want it? Fine. Just fucking get rid of it. Who gives a shit? The only reason people give a shit is because they're moralistic about sex and sexuality. That's why they give a shit, because they want there to be consequences to an action. Those consequences are purely technologically related. They're not like, there does not have to be moral consequences to sex. We've solved that problem with birth control and other technologies. What we really should do if we really give a shit about building a good society and building
Starting point is 00:17:18 better outcomes for families is we should have free birth control across the board. It's cheap. is we should have free birth control across the board. It's cheap. It's a cheaper solution than Medicare and the kids insurance programs and all the rest of that shit. And we should have fucking free abortions in the first trimester for anyone that wants one.
Starting point is 00:17:35 That's it. I don't disagree with that. It's cheaper and easier and you build a better society. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. I do think that you're right in the first trimester, but I do tend to think that as time goes on, especially the viability of the child, that you are getting into a moralistic issue. Right. And I think you can
Starting point is 00:17:50 have conversations about that. And I don't know that we necessarily, but I think at least I think everybody who's got a fucking brain in their head can say like in the first trimester? Yeah. That's not, it's not a thing. Yeah. I think too, you know, it's really interesting when all these people wind up, you know, you wind up seeing these Republicans.
Starting point is 00:18:11 They have these kids out of wedlock with their mistresses and the mistress has to go get an abortion or whatever. They utilize these services. You know, they utilize these fucking hypocrites. Everybody utilizes these services when they fucking want them. Because they're fucking hypocrites Everybody utilizes these services when they fucking want them You know these same guys They're fucking mistresses You think they're like the ones that don't impregnate their mistress It's because they're on fucking birth control
Starting point is 00:18:32 Right It's like the thing they don't want to give Everybody else or they want to make expensive Or they want to make it by prescription They want to make it shame somehow Because it's about controlling women Women's power and their sexuality. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:46 That's all this is. This has nothing to do with children or babies or any of the rest of it. It's about being a moralistic dick about sex and women. Yeah, for sure. That's it. And the point that the psalmist is making is when a nation sacrifices innocent children in abortion or infanticide, that is a sacrifice to demons. It's like food for demons, using that expression metaphorically. What I mean by that is that act of the shedding of innocent blood, the most innocent among us, it empowers satanic
Starting point is 00:19:19 forces. This made me laugh. This is from Wreg.com. Tennessee lawmakers. Okay. Monument in memory of the victims of abortion. It's just a snow globe of fetuses. Just to shake it. And all the little fetuses
Starting point is 00:19:39 just float down over the skyline and then they sort of land in the bottom. Hey man, half umbilical, right. And I love the idea of it's like in memory of them. Like,
Starting point is 00:19:51 Oh, do you remember that mistake from high school that you got rid of before? It was a size of a pencil eraser. Yeah. Good old what's it sells. Are you kidding me? This is a memory. Oh, we just remember that time.
Starting point is 00:20:06 We never had a single fucking shared experience because that wasn't a viable human being yet. Oh, good times. They have the ribbon cutting ceremony and they like invite cannibal corpse to play. Hey, remember that time I threw up once and then my crotch hurt for 72 hours? Oh, man, that was amazing. Fuck you. Thanks for the memories. The memory of the victims of abortion.
Starting point is 00:20:33 It's like that fucking baby shoe exhibit they had. Remember the baby shoe exhibit they did? I do remember that shit. You know, like, it would be, what I think would be really great is if they were allowed to do that sort of stuff, but only allowed to do it like using real size. Yeah. You know, cause it's like,
Starting point is 00:20:49 it's such liars bullshit to put, to have like baby shoes, full size baby shoes or like a full size headstone or like a full size, whatever, as if this was like a full size person that somebody just came up and like stabbed in the face. Yeah. Like that's not,
Starting point is 00:21:03 it was like a giant vacuum full of blades to like a toddler, suck them in the face. Yeah. Like that's not, it came out with like a giant vacuum full of blades to like a toddler. Suck them into the thing. It'd be great if it was like, oh yeah, you got to have a shoe the size of the baby's or the zygote's foot.
Starting point is 00:21:16 It'd be like, oh, it doesn't have a foot yet. Oh, that's my fucking point. Exactly. Exactly. Well, it'd be like a pencil, like you said,
Starting point is 00:21:22 a pencil eraser or something. Yeah. Oh, it's a million pencil erasers. Oh does it look like uh nothing no one cares about it let's move on and go get dairy queen like no one cares well and and and i think this is this is trying to elicit some sympathy in a way that is like you say it's a liar's game it's a way in which for them to say look at all these babies and then you stop and you think and you go, look, we're not calling them babies. They're not. It's not like this fucking kid had a fucking little fucking little sailor hat on and was being pushed around in a stroller.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Right. That's right. That's just a totally different thing than what happened. And they are very good. They are very, very good, I think at um at eliciting emotions and making people think emotionally yeah and i think that this is one of those instances where they and they do this a lot about abortion it basically rides on how you emotionally react to exhibits like this sure right yeah absolutely it's like don't you love babies babies are so
Starting point is 00:22:23 cute it's like i kind of like babies, first of all, if they're yours. The Bible says they're going to eat their arms. The Bible says they're going to eat their babies. Then it says they're going to eat their children. That's what people do when they get hungry. Right-wing watch. This is Jim Baker. Government scientists say Morningside is the best place to
Starting point is 00:22:51 ride out the end times. Hey, Cecil, unrelated side note, Morningside's where Jim Baker is. What is a Morningside? Morningside is a garbage town in Missouri near Branson. Branson is... That's where Yakov Smirnoff is.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Branson is where joy goes to die. Gosh. All right, so let's play this. This is Jim Baker from His Shine. There's nowhere on earth you could live with more of God's generals here. God's generals? Why do you want to be where the general?
Starting point is 00:23:27 I want to be where the fucking army is. Hey, y'all, South is going to rise again. The generals are fast. They don't fight. I got all my generals here. They're on the old folks home. We're outside of Branson, Missouri. Our address is Branson, but we're outside. Oh, they're showing a picture of Branson right now. I'm sorry. Our address is Branson, but we're outside.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Oh, they're showing a picture of Branson right now. Is it on a lake? Everything's on a lake in Missouri. It's a fucking swamp. A little bit. We're on the other side of the lake of Branson.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Branson has the number one Christian theater in the world. Who cares? That seems like a non sequitur. I love that idea. It's like there's an apocalypse, and it's like, okay, yeah. But there's a show at 730. Just so you know, they can play their God War movie reels.
Starting point is 00:24:21 God's Not Dead 2 is showing at 915. Oh, gosh. You're talking about sight and sound Which don't sound Yeah Let's clap Christian theater Sight and sound
Starting point is 00:24:35 I tell you what You all are going to know Soon Why God brought us here Seniors get discount movie tickets. God knows. God knows that everybody likes when they get a little older,
Starting point is 00:24:52 you like to save a little money. It's not Atlantic City. It's not Vegas. It's Branson. I'll tell you what, I can't wait to get my seniors discount next year. Here we go. Next year?
Starting point is 00:25:04 I think God brought Jim Baker there because they're kinder to felons in Missouri. Because everybody in Missouri stripes. He can vote. He's just like, whatever. I miss the old gang.
Starting point is 00:25:20 The old chain gang. Amen. Do you know the people from the government, from NASA, the research from so many of them, they have said in their research, the safest place to live in troubled times is right here. NASA. NASA does the research about where to live in troubled times. It's the famous NASA troubled time survey of 2016. Hey, guys, should we launch a rocket into space?
Starting point is 00:25:59 Or figure out if Branson's okay to live in? While the asshole's on his fucking joystick driving something around on Mars, they had time to be like, hey, let's survey everybody and find out where the best place to be in troubled times. What does that even mean? Troubled times? I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:26:16 There's a recession. Where should we live? Ask NASA. I don't know. What the fuck? And you go to NASA like, Branson, duh. Fuck. Yakov Smirnoff is there why would now I love these guys are like well we asked NASA can you
Starting point is 00:26:31 imagine being the guys at NASA like not no they didn't no no stop saying that someone should tweet at NASA this and say can you care to comment where's the best place to live on trouble what we should do is have an advice column called Ask NASA. Okay. Any NASA people that are listening. That's hopelessly optimistic. Let us know what you guys said to him. I'm seriously going to write letters to NASA for like marital advice.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Whatever. Just like, how do I get my dog to stop peeing in the house? NASA, where can I get a good cheese stick? Not Philadelphia. We got a message from some asshole in Philadelphia that was like, oh, your garbage sandwich out there. And I'm just like, are you
Starting point is 00:27:18 fucking kidding me right now? Are you kidding? Look, look, all jokes aside. Bitch, please. All Chicago style beef. Yeah. Over that fucking, that is rat poison. That is decon rat poison. It's like filleted rats.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I had every incentive. I will say I had every incentive to enjoy a Philly cheesesteak. I drove three hours out of my way. I wasn't even near. It's like 180 miles out of your way. Out of my way. Yeah. To have that sandwich. I was excited at a level that was unreasonable to eat that sandwich.
Starting point is 00:27:53 It was fucking vomit-inducingly bad. It was... And it was from one of the famous places, right? Yeah, it was from... It was like they're across the street and they fucking hate each other and they both have lines a million years long. Which one did you get? The whiz or the provolone one? The whiz. Okay. Because that's what everyone said. They said, oh, gotta get it was like they're across the street and they fucking hate each other. And they both have lines. Did you get the whiz or the provolone one? The whiz. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Cause that's what everyone said. They said, oh God, I get the whiz. I got the fucking super standard. That's what it is. That's the fucking Philly cheesesteak, Mark Wahlberg sandwich. Like that's the one that I got. It is the worst sandwich I've ever, you ever go to that fucking airport and it's like two 30 in the morning.
Starting point is 00:28:26 And like, it's the worst. I already hate the story. I'm already mad at this story. The only place that's open is like Hudson news. Jesus. And like, they've got like a cooler case of sandwiches that were made like four days ago.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yeah. Right. And they're like the bread, like you can see in there that the bread has like, it's been eaten by crows. You can take the sandwich and pound a nail into something.
Starting point is 00:28:53 And you, but it's like, it's fucking late and you're excited. You're like, fucking God, eat something. And you buy it anyway
Starting point is 00:28:58 and you open it up and the smell of nothing wafts off because all odor has long since abandoned conjunction with that food. That is still a hundred times better than a Philly cheesesteak sandwich from Philly. And you have to get that sandwich in Philly. Do you have to stand in line too?
Starting point is 00:29:17 You stand in line in Philly. For how long? Too long. One second would have been too long. And then the people abuse you in line. They're like, it's a wiener circle here. It's just don too long. And then the people abuse you in line. They're like, it's a wiener circle here.
Starting point is 00:29:27 It's just, don't ever go to the wiener circle in Chicago. Those people are assholes. They scream at you and the food isn't very good. Yeah, they like, it's the same thing at this place. They're like, they yell at you
Starting point is 00:29:34 and you're like, I don't understand why it's like, oh, it's so much fun to go there. That's not fun. Treated like everybody's serving you as your abusive stepdad. Like, what the fuck? You want a fucking sandwich?
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Starting point is 00:30:58 Fucking great. Fucking Larry Pratt is an asshole. Yeah. Actually, that's who Larry Pratt is. So there's some audio from this. Yeah. So this guy was on a show, though. He was on a show called Homefront with Cynthia Davis.
Starting point is 00:31:14 So this is from her show. Let me get one idea from you about David Hogg. So we have this boy who went to a school in... Parkland. Parkland is the name of Florida. And apparently he wasn't even there when the tragedy occurred. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:31:32 No, that's just not there. He took fucking video while he was on lockdown. Like he was interviewing other people while he was on lockdown. So he's in the school. Yeah, but they're just trying to discredit. Think about what's happening here too.
Starting point is 00:31:47 They're trying, you're trying to discredit a fucking teenager who survived a fucking mass shooting. So just, just pause and realize the caliber of a human being that's doing the speaking right now. According to what he said himself, he was either in a classroom and another building away from the shooter,
Starting point is 00:32:05 or he got on his bicycle and rode to school when he heard that there was a shooting going on. That's just blatant. I was reading an article that said that someone has just made up a quote that he never said.
Starting point is 00:32:21 They just made up a quote that he never said that he said that he got on his bike once he heard the shoot, the place was there and rode to the school as quickly as he could. Like people do.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Nobody, hey, so all my classmates are getting shot by a madman. Oh, I'm gonna go see it. Could you imagine like,
Starting point is 00:32:38 like if I found out, if I found out like, oh yeah, your workplace is being shot up right now and you're at home and be like, woohoo.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I would tender my resignation. What workplace? I don't work there. I've never been associated. Emailing your boss. Be like, how's today? Best you wish you were from home. I would shred my business cards.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Are you kidding me? I drive somewhere else. I'd be like, you know what? Maybe they know where I live. He can't even tell the same story about what he was doing in the same rather memorable timeframe. I think, you know, I can tell you exactly what I was doing and where I was when I heard on the radio that the World Trade Center had actually collapsed because of the plane that hit it. I'll never forget that i know exactly where i was okay okay yeah and he knew exactly where he was you're just reading a quote that's that's not even attributed to him well it
Starting point is 00:33:33 is attributed to him but it's not i love i love that it's like well i remember things so other people that remember things oh like what the fuck are you talking about your experience remembering stuff is neither unique nor interesting it is generally fucking assumed that we all sometimes remember things that is true twerp can't even remember uh what he was wait did he call him a twerp he called him a twerp this little twerp can't even remember uh what he was doing at that rather equivalent... God, I would like to meet this guy. I would love... You know, like, if I was David Hogg's dad, and David Hogg survived, like, his
Starting point is 00:34:12 classmates get fucking murdered, and my kid is in danger, and he fucking survives, and he becomes a fucking advocate for gun control, and he's out, like, risking his reputation and the fucking ire of these dipshits and somebody's like,
Starting point is 00:34:28 your son's a little twerp. We should have a conversation together. It's hard not to react to that emotionally and stiffen up a little when they say that sort of thing. This kid has more courage than a lot of people have. I'm not going to
Starting point is 00:34:44 talk about these people like they're some sort of amazing heroes or whatever. Like these are people who just, just endured something terrible. They endured something terrible. They, they hid from a shooter. They had to witness possibly some of their friends or close friends. I don't know. I don't know anything about them. I don't know how many, I don't know how close these people were that died to them or were injured. I don't know anything about him. I don't know how many, I don't know how close these people were that died to him or were injured. I don't know how traumatic this particular thing was for them individually. I don't know any of that stuff. What I won't do is say like, you know,
Starting point is 00:35:12 I won't discredit that. I won't just wave my hand and be like, well, you know, that's who cares about that. Cause it's, it's an important, like that's an,
Starting point is 00:35:19 that's going to be an important building factor maybe in his life. And it clearly has been already. It's already been something that's been formative to him why are you calling him a little twerp well and that's the thing right you know like that's punching down at the very least right you're making fun of a young person but and then you're also just like hand waving this entire experience and saying that's not anything right moment in his life i don't think this guy could tell the truth if he had a gun in his head and And he's called cheap shot.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Kind of already had it. Right. All the survivor, a parkland survivor, which isn't an accurate word either, unless you were shot at. I don't know that that fits being called a survivor. What are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 00:36:00 Like, that's the standard we're going to hold somebody to like, as to whether or not they are. I like that. We're going to wordsmith how people like, and that's the thing we're going to hold somebody to as to whether or not they are. I like that. We're going to wordsmith how people like, and that's the thing is that they're saying, they're saying they don't want to give sympathy to somebody who just happened to be in the building. You've got to show me the graze marks on your skin.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Yeah. Right. I'm willing to give you sympathy. Unless you like that standard is unless somebody shot at you. Yeah. So like, so by that standard, the most ridiculous extension of that would be by that standard,
Starting point is 00:36:26 you and I are standing next to each other and somebody shoots at you and miss and no, somebody shoots at you. You and I are standing next to somebody shoots at you, but they didn't shoot at me. And then the police sniped that guy. I am not a survivor of that shooting event. I was just like, I don't know. I'm not even
Starting point is 00:36:45 really related to that. I was just nearby. I mean, I saw them shoot at Cecil. And I was, he was fucking right next to me. Yeah, I was just nearby. And maybe I would have been next. And that's kind of the fucking point is that I was in imminent motherfucking danger for my life. What I like too is that in order
Starting point is 00:37:01 to get the certification of survivor, you have to prove that you were shot at. Do you get the certification of survivor you have to prove that you were shot at what do you do you have to like do you have to like go through some kind of rigorous vetting process like you have to like go on survivor the show i mean like a survivor like you get voted out of the school they uh voted most likely to survive in the yearbook. What's hilarious is that's fucking true, right? What's so funny, too, they vet these people harder than they vet Trump's cabinet. You know what I mean? No, I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:37:35 It's just for the dramatic effect. The media is having a field day. This guy's right out of central casting. In fact, he may be. Who knows? His daddy's an FBI agent. His daddy's a retired FBI agent. Okay, same thing. No, being
Starting point is 00:37:50 retired is the same. That certainly would give me some pause in considering the motives of this young man. Why? It gave him pause. Little pause. Little tiny hands. He had little hands. A non-opposable thumbs. It gave him pause. He's on patrol for the
Starting point is 00:38:06 truth. He's on paw patrol for the truth now. What a fucking idiot. Oh, God. What I love is like how easily they're willing to go so deep below the belt to attack these people that didn't do anything except
Starting point is 00:38:22 for say, hey, guys, let's have some thoughts about gun control. And you know what makes me crazy? It's not like any of these guys are like, ban all the guns. Nobody is saying that. They are reacting as if the rhetoric on one side is like, cancel America.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Yeah. Like, it's just, nobody's, you know, it's like, it's like, we're done. It's like, we're going to Walmart this fucker. Roll it back. No more America, motherfuckers. You know what?
Starting point is 00:38:51 Bald eagles on every plate. It's just amazing how much they're willing to just completely discredit. And it's just this giant ad hom, right? That constantly, there's nothing there that says that David Hogg's argument is good or hom, right? That constantly there's, there's nothing there that says that David Hogg's argument is good or bad, right? There's never a mention about the substance of his argument.
Starting point is 00:39:12 It's never like, look, the reason why the second amendment exists is because of this, this, and this. And if we infringe on these rights, then, then while it may lower some shootings here, it would also increase the danger of other people in other places, right? There's a way to make that argument, right? And I don't know that I agree or disagree with any of that stuff. And I personally don't think I,
Starting point is 00:39:33 I, I agree too much with that stuff. Sure. But, but there's an argument to me made and there's an argument back and forth there that has some sort of logic and something to do with statistics and that can be made, but it's never
Starting point is 00:39:45 any of that it's always just like well he's an actor okay well what did he say yeah even if he were an actor it's like it's just well i'm curious about the script then yeah if it's all made up what is he saying if he's saying look we don't we kids don't want to be shot at we don't want to be subjected to this we'd like to have some sort of ban on assault weapons. Now you say, well, look, the reason why we're not banning assault weapons is X. It's not the reasons why we're not banning assault weapons is because you're an actor. That's not the reason,
Starting point is 00:40:12 right? That's not, but that's what they want. That would, that would, otherwise that would have been a great rebuttal to everything Reagan wanted to do. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Let's fuck. I'll fuck anything that moves to stories from the New York Times Toronto van suspect van attack suspect expressed anger at women do they call them a suspect
Starting point is 00:40:36 even though you're caught in the car after you run over people man we call everybody a suspect until they're like convicted don't we I guess isn't that the thing it's like they allegedly yeah it seems weird you're just like what did somebody quickly replace him we didn't replace this driver will anyone notice you know like it's like it's the
Starting point is 00:40:54 same thing with like that fucking colorado shoot it's like he allegedly shot like 19 people it's like he walked out of the theater like covered in covered in blood and Uzis. Are you fucking kidding me? He's got a swirl of gun smoke around him. Right, it wasn't me. A weapon firing off. It's like, maybe it was him. We don't know. We'll just, we'll see what the video says.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I don't know about, I like that. The language, I think, has to be used because that's how you, that's how you're, you know, as a journalist, that's how you have to say it. Right. I think it's that, but it's, so you don't get sued. Yeah. But it's one of those things. It's so special.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Well, sitting in a car with blood covered tires, we still buckled in. Like, how does that work? We suspect it was you. Oh, oh,
Starting point is 00:41:37 really Sherlock? Huh? Did you get your giant magnifying glass out? Your plaid cap? Your hat that you could turn around. Your basset out. He did more than express anger at women. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:41:54 So, like, this fucking asshole, you know, he ran over a whole bunch of people. He's a total piece of shit. But he is a self-described incel, right? And incel stands for an involuntary celibate and like it's like well yeah i mean like there's probably not a lot of voluntary celibates like outside the priesthood even the priests are kind of and like they're not really all that celibate they're all kind of just like right so like basically like incel means like can't get laid like that's like what it means you know like like look i don't think that there's
Starting point is 00:42:34 there's anything wrong with being a virgin i don't think there's anything wrong with you know not having sexual intercourse i don't think there's anything wrong with it whatever you want to do like like i I think that anybody who has you know, that's up to you. But when you start resenting the opposite sex because of the sex that you can't get,
Starting point is 00:42:56 there's some real, real fucking problems there. Yeah. So like, let's talk a little bit about what this incel nonsense, because it's so fucking toxic. Like really, it is absolutely. And this is the second mass murder that's,
Starting point is 00:43:09 that's been attributed. Absolutely. Yeah. This is not a, this is not a benign thing. No. And this is not just, um,
Starting point is 00:43:16 online people blowing off steam. This is real people hurting other human beings because of this. So like this, this incel group, and it's, it's a group that was on Reddit, Reddit fandom. Now they're over on 4chan. They probably were at 4chan of this. So like this, this incel group, and it's, it's a group that was on Reddit, Reddit fandom. Now they're over on 4chan.
Starting point is 00:43:28 They probably were at 4chan as well. So like, this seems to be like where they're congregated. Yeah. And it's an online group. I don't think you'd go to incel meetup. No, like,
Starting point is 00:43:38 because it's like, it's obviously like a group of people that are socially not doing well. Right. And so as a result of their social ineptitudes or whatever, they have a, they have, they have internalized and then externalized a deep resentment and hatred for women. And they have a whole language around this that they, that they use. And they, the, the idea is, and I think it like, I read a couple of these articles and I thought about this a little bit, and it seems to be that what it boils down
Starting point is 00:44:12 to when I think about it and when I read about it is it boils down to these are men who resent the power that women have because women have sex that they want, right? And it's specifically attractive women that they want to have sex with. And because they're not having sex with these attractive women, they seem to have harbored a resentment. And that resentment turns into anger and hatred and rage, which they then foment amongst themselves within an echo chamber online. And then they develop a language and an ideology around this that basically takes their individual rejections,
Starting point is 00:44:50 applies those rejections across the board to all women. Sure. And then they have an ideology that's deeply, deeply misogynist, that advocates in some cases, Elliot Rodger being an example, that advocates rape, that advocates violence towards women,
Starting point is 00:45:05 that discusses women as a less than part of humanity, as a part of humanity that is to be subjugated by men in order for men to be entitled to sexual relationships with them. And when they can't have sex and they can't have intimacy and they can't have the things they want from women, that hatred and that anger boils over. And in two cases, at the very least, it's boiled over out of the fucking echo chambers of the internet and into the real world and resulted in the mass murders of 16 people. Yeah, it has been, you know, it's one of these things that it's hard for me to wrap my head around their, like, any of their mindset. I can't even get to even, like, a shred of where they get to, right?
Starting point is 00:45:51 The resentment of women in general in this case. It's hard for me to even wrap my, you know, because, like, individuals may hurt you, right? But you can't look at everybody and say, you know, everybody that is part of this group. Oh, but I think people do it all the time though, don't you? I mean, I think that's the reason we have racism. Yeah, no, absolutely. And that's another faulty way of thinking, right?
Starting point is 00:46:18 Right. You know, like, yeah, sure. Faulty ways of thinking reinforce this all the time. But I just can't get my head around it. Well, think about it like this. I was thinking about this a little bit when this came out. It seems to me like if you are not good at thinking, right, and they're clearly not good at it. And I mean that literally. They're not good at this process, right? But if they can transfer the onus of responsibility for their social and romantic failures from one interaction or 10 interactions, if they can transfer that to all women, now women are now responsible.
Starting point is 00:47:06 And they are no longer responsible for their own social and romantic failures. Sure. Now they are an oppressed underdog, an oppressed class that is being, you know, the, and, and the, the sexuality of, of women is now being wielded as a tool to bludgeon and oppress them. So they, by, by, by sort of thinking along those lines, they move from being a fucking loser to being an oppressed underdog fighting against an oppressor. And I think that that's a common, like, I think that methodology of thinking is often how you move from
Starting point is 00:47:44 one person in a group hurt me to now the entire group. Because as soon as you can make yourself the victim of a powerful oppressor, now you are the rebel fighting the good fight. And now you have some kind of moral standing. And I think it's what the white supremacists feel. I think that same, it all works the same way. Do you think that there's any of these people that are insoles that, you know, look inward and they say, look, clearly there's something
Starting point is 00:48:15 not appealing about me. I need to fix me. No. And then they go and fix themselves and then they're not insoles anymore and they come out there that they're, that they're suddenly like, like,
Starting point is 00:48:27 they're like, well, Jesus, I guess I've been skinny fat my whole life and I don't have a job. And maybe that's why women don't want to date me. I'm also a fucking total moron clearly. Cause I'm at an insult group. And then suddenly they're like,
Starting point is 00:48:39 well, fuck that. And then they're like, well, I'm going to stop doing that. And then I, I'm going to go work out and I'm going to go, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:44 you know, get a better job. I'm going to be kind and I'm going to be polite. And i i'm gonna go work out and i'm gonna go you know you know get a better job i'm gonna be kind and i'm gonna be polite and i'm gonna i'm also gonna fix myself i'm gonna be better i'm gonna go do other things that make me better and more attractive be the best you you can like that's what everybody should be trying to do is be your best okay yeah i yes absolutely but like i think that that is so often lost like i see this shit online i'm sure you. Like I see this shit online. I'm sure you do too. I see this shit online all the time where it's like, ah, you know, I'm like, like I saw something earlier.
Starting point is 00:49:11 It's like somebody said something about like waiting for women, you know? And like, it's like, well, you don't, you don't wait for people. Like you just continuously strive to improve yourself. That will just make you more attractive. Improve your, improve your moral character, improve your intellectual character, be make you more attractive. Improve your moral character. Improve your intellectual character. Be your best physical character. Be your best. Constantly be on a search for self-improvement.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Somebody will find that attractive eventually. Look, this has nothing to do with sex. I can tell you this has nothing, because if it had anything to do with sex. Because you could just pay for sex. And you could pay for sex in Chicago. You know what I mean? There's escort services in Chicago
Starting point is 00:49:48 on, you know, probably not on Craigslist anymore now that they passed that thing or whatever. They're going to pass that thing. Oh, I heard about that. That also got rid of, that got rid of, like, there was another one. There's like a, like, there's like a Craigslist for
Starting point is 00:50:03 hookers. I don't remember what it's called. Yeah, so like certain places in the United States won't have it easily accessed. But, you know, you can find someone who's willing to, for money, have sex with you. That's the oldest profession there is. Right. For a fucking reason. Look, if you have some resources, you can just fly to Vegas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Right? You can fly overseas. This has nothing to do with sex. Yeah. It does not. And I'm playing armchair psychiatrist right or psychologist will throw away what i have to say as being meaningful other than just my straight conjecture but i strongly suspect this is about insecure people not having meaningful
Starting point is 00:50:37 relationships that they want desperately to have and don't know how to have if it was just about sex they'd go buy it. That's the easiest thing to buy. How do you fix it? How do you change? Because do you think that something like this has come about because of I think the reason why they congregate came about because
Starting point is 00:50:57 of the internet. Because it's a weird thing to fucking socialize over. That's a weird, you're not going to have a meetup. That's like having a vasectomy club. You know what I mean? It's like a weird, like, what do you call a vasectomy club anyway? Like, I guess if they're all well-dressed,
Starting point is 00:51:12 you'd call them snipsters. Like, you know what I mean? Like, what do you call, like, you're a vasectomy. Like, nobody would bond over that, right? Like, there wouldn't be a meetup group where you all go to the bar and be like, hey guys, remember your vasectomy?
Starting point is 00:51:24 Cheers. Like, that's a weird thing to bond over, right? Like, there wouldn't be a meetup group where you all go to the bar and be like, hey guys, remember your vasectomy? Cheers. Like, that's a weird thing to bond over, right? The same thing here. This would be a weird thing to bond over, right? It's a strange thing. Like, it's like, in some ways, we shame people who are virgins, right? We shame people who are often
Starting point is 00:51:39 who are not as sexually successful. Yeah, yeah. We shame those. We do shame those people. And we shouldn't. And we shouldn't. Yeah, yeah. Successful. We shame those. We do shame those people. And we shouldn't. And we shouldn't. No, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Absolutely not. And I don't agree with that at all. I don't think these people should be shamed because they're celibate or involuntary, basically not getting any action. I don't think that's a shameful thing. I don't even think that's the problem. But I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:52:04 it feels like a weird thing to even bond over and i wonder if you know the internet caused these groups to meet and to talk and maybe foment and maybe be uh an echo chamber that causes some real problems but do you think that there's a way do you think that the internet has a problem is the thing is the reason why they're not even able to relate to other human beings in a way? I think that it might be. I think that there certainly are a lot of people. I don't know percentage wise, but I mean, we've met them. So like, I know that there are, there's certainly many people who relate better online than they do in person. And I think that the more opportunities that you have to do what's easy, the less likely you are to learn the skills that are harder to learn.
Starting point is 00:52:54 And if what you find easy is going online and selecting your avatar picture and typing out and having this sort of mediated interaction. Sure. That to be perfectly frank, these are not challenging interactions because you can walk away from any of them. You can self-select your groups. Social interactions that happen in real life are messier.
Starting point is 00:53:14 They're more difficult. They're more challenging. You can't have ideas like this that survive for very long in the real world because you'll constantly be challenged by a more diverse group of people than you would select when you go online. So I think it's a problem that partially develops because I do think social skills for some people, if you don't have good social skills, the internet does not help you develop better social skills
Starting point is 00:53:45 have good social skills, the internet does not help you develop better social skills often. It might occasionally, but I think it also can give people who have poor social skills, many, many reasons to not engage the world in reality. And then they can go to a place that just constantly reinforces this worldview. It's clear that you can trace this back to these thoughts, these toxic, shitty thoughts. His last things that he wrote, the thing that he wrote is said, the insult rebellion has begun.
Starting point is 00:54:19 We will overthrow all the Chads and Stacys. And I guess Chads and Stacys are people that have sex. All hail the supreme gentleman, Elliot Rodger. And Elliot Rodger is that other mass murderer. Yeah. And then he went out
Starting point is 00:54:32 and drove his car into a bunch of people. You want answers? I think I'm entitled. You want answers! I want the truth! You can't handle the truth! This story is from
Starting point is 00:54:40 Right Wing Watch. Jim Baker, God sent two scientists to cure cancer, but they were aborted. Consarned. I may have ad-libbed the consarned. All right, so here's Jim.
Starting point is 00:54:51 This is Jim from his show. Well, I think the heartbeat bill is probably the most important thing going on in the world right now. And there's a lot going on in the world. Wow. In the world. In the world. In the world. You know, North Korea's
Starting point is 00:55:07 mountain collapsed. I know. Oh, the mountain that they used to test nuclear weapons. That might eventually collapse more and shit fucking fall out over the world. That's not important.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Anyways, whatever. Pay no attention. World right now. But I believe America is cursed if we keep murdering our babies. I believe we are doomed as a nation. Whatever you think.
Starting point is 00:55:38 When is the dooming going to start? Because, you know, I got to say, like I just, I was joking before. But like, I just got back from the Dominican Republic and we went out of the resort for an excursion one day
Starting point is 00:55:51 and I've never ever ever felt more motherfucking privileged in my life Dominican Republic is poor yeah we drove about an hour to this thing to do some horseback riding and we drove through the Dominican countryside an hour to this thing to do some horseback riding.
Starting point is 00:56:08 And we drove through the Dominican countryside and in this mountains, they were very, very beautiful. And like the people were living in conditions that were, that were genuinely appalling. Like there's no other way to phrase that. And it was all of them. And it was for miles. And it was,
Starting point is 00:56:23 it was appalling. And I, I turned to Haley and I was like, God damn, our kids for miles. And it was appalling. And I turned to Haley and I was like, God damn, our kids are spoiled. And then later I was like, you know, I take that back. God damn, we are spoiled. We are so fucking spoiled. The only difference is like, I know it and the kids don't yet. But holy fuck are we spoiled.
Starting point is 00:56:39 It's like, America's doomed. It's like, really? Really? Because you're sitting there in your fucking $2,000 suit. Yeah. On TV. Sitting on time. Well well-fed buckets of food uh-huh you're selling rockets of food that people can have if the conditions get as bad as the dominican republic it's like like most of the world is like wait a minute you have just in case food i want just in time food you have just like it's like it's like i will every week every week we clean out our refrigerator and throw away the leftovers we never got around yep there's i their food waste is one of the biggest reasons why um there is a hunger problem
Starting point is 00:57:23 in the world i mean food waste we waste more food here in the united states food waste is a hunger problem in the world. I mean, food waste, we waste more food here in the United States. Food waste is a huge issue. Food waste is an enormous issue. You know, like you look at all the ways, it's like America's doomed. Yeah. Well, we're kicking a whole lot of ass right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Most of the world lives on less than a dollar a day. Yeah. I don't care because I believe God says, thou shalt not kill. Amen. And to murder. Yeah, unless they are brown. Then they count less.
Starting point is 00:57:49 It's three-fifths. Let me tell you what we can do with that. It's actually thou shalt not. We can kill 100,000 Iraqis. Right. Not an issue. Our unborn baby, I don't believe God can look at it. That's one of the reasons we stood so strong with the Republican platform.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Is that right? That's right. That's exactly right. That's why we we were on this broadcast, the Jim Baker show, and we endorsed the candidate. What? Donald Trump. Oh, my God. Spit it out.
Starting point is 00:58:21 We know that's why you endorsed Donald Trump. Nobody's surprised. Are you confused about your own fucking position? I was the one that was voted in to become the president and stood on the Republican platform for that reason.
Starting point is 00:58:38 She said nothing. She said nothing. She's like the worst Ed McMahon ever. Holy shit. You said nothing. She's like the worst Ed McMahon ever. Holy shit. You are correct. Like she could have seriously just been like, yep. Yep. I mean, like even
Starting point is 00:58:55 if you don't even have to agree, but if you feel so fucking motivated. If you have an editor, that turns into yep. Jesus Christ. You know what? The horse fucking stomped his foot twice. Are you kidding me? That's amazing. Feed her another bag of oats.
Starting point is 00:59:11 We hope that this program can be an important cog to stop abortion in this country. Yes, amen. And we're believing it can happen. And we're always going to take care of girls. We're always, this is our- Because women need to be taken care of. I will take care of those girls so hard. Women have no idea how to do things
Starting point is 00:59:37 or act or be in the world. So we need to take care of them. Yeah, I agree with that. As men, we need to take care of them. That's our role. That's why we have the penises. I don't even understand why that would be controversial. If it wasn't
Starting point is 00:59:50 my job to be in charge, why do I have the cock? It's fucking self-evident. Passion, this is what we... I built a girl's home back at Heritage USA decades ago and saved... What is that person wearing, what is that person wearing?
Starting point is 01:00:06 What is that person wearing? Is that woman dressed up like Colonel Sanders? Oh my God. Oh my God. What is she wearing? Oh, this is, I love pictures. Old timey pictures from the eighties. It's from 1980.
Starting point is 01:00:18 This photo happens at 123. You guys got to check it out. It's really hilarious. I don't know how many babies, hundreds of babies. At 123, you guys got to check it out. It's really hilarious. I don't know how many babies, hundreds of babies. And today, those children are having babies of their own.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Absolutely. And it's a heritage. Well, except for the ones that abort them. You know what I'm saying? They're all having them young and out of wedlock. That continues through the babies. That's right. The thing we've done in America.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Yeah, that's how humans work. I mean, like, are you kidding me? Who's in the audience like, oh, that's how more generations of people are made. Oh. Babies. Oh, and then the babies grow up into adults that have babies. It's all coming together now. The circle of life.
Starting point is 01:01:03 The thing we've done in America, we have killed our babies. Yeah. We have killed the future of America. I told you the other day a story. Well, we didn't kill all the babies. He's talking like we've killed every baby. Like, we're just out of babies.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Yeah, we just killed all of them. Yeah, at this point, it's like children of men. Right? There's like children of men. Right? There's like one 18-year-old, and he dies in a car accident. We're all going to cry. I told you the other day a story about someone said they asked God, why haven't we had a cure for cancer? Right.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And he said back, I gave you. What, in an email? Did he text it back, I gave him an email. Did he text it back? Is this a Facebook message? What's happening? Can I just pause real quick and just say like, wouldn't a better question be like, God,
Starting point is 01:01:55 why do we have cancer? Like, you know, like why? I love the idea that like, can we do the question of evil? Let's do that instead. Like,
Starting point is 01:02:04 because wouldn't it be even more fucked up if God was like, well, I made cancer. And then I just kind of let it sit there for a while. See, what I had was this big dartboard full of ailments. You're lucky you didn't get face falling off disease. Like, I love the idea. It's like, why did he cure it? Like, well, I Well, I didn't notice it snuck in there. The bullseye
Starting point is 01:02:28 was spontaneous combustion. You guys lucked out on that one. Just a little spot of cancer. I gave you two scientists that had the cure and both of them were aborted.
Starting point is 01:02:45 That embryo's name? Albert Einstein. And now you know the rest of the story. That's so stupid. Who fucking believes that? That's like a forward from grandma. It's like, forward, forward, forward, forward. Someone ask God, why haven't you given
Starting point is 01:03:06 us a cure to cancer that's that that's like that like story like and why weren't you raped in the alley while there were two guys walking i didn't rape her because she had two guys walking around her and the other one wasn't praying god those are the shittiest stories what do they get like the embryos get bundled up with a cure of cancer is it like God, those are the shittiest stories. Those stories are so fucked up. What did they get? Like the embryos get bundled up with a cure of cancer? Is it like, did they have it inside them? Are they like a fortune cookie?
Starting point is 01:03:33 We like crack them open and inside it's like, here's your lottery numbers. Oh, and they cured a cancer. What do you know? Yeah. It was green tea leaves all along. Nobody tried that. Homeopathy?
Starting point is 01:03:46 That's got to be wrong. Throw that one away. Throw that baby away. He's got the wrong cure. Cracking open babies, trying to find the cure. What's funny is we might actually find it in stem cells or something. You know what I mean? Cracking open babies.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Cracking open some babies, you know? I love the idea that he said two. He said one. He's like, all right, I'm going to put this kid of cancer in a baby. I open some babies you know i love that he said two like he says what he's like all right i'm gonna put this cure to cancer in a baby i gotta wrap it whenever i go hunting i bring two hound dogs so always send it to now you can't i can't just give y'all a present like the cure to cancer without wrapping it so i know i wrapped it in this baby and like the baby like comes back like like back to heaven i thought did not just i thought i put it in you just hold out a minute
Starting point is 01:04:32 i'm gonna put it i'm gonna put it in a different maybe they didn't like the wrapping paper i'm gonna put it in a black baby why did he put it in a dog? Well, I guess they just keep returning my presents. They have no idea where to look down there. I should send them a gift receipt. Where's an Asian baby? I'll just make sure it's not a girl. So we want to thank our patrons. Of course, we want to thank our patrons. Of course, we want to thank all our patrons.
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Starting point is 01:05:54 with Noah and another. So we wound up with a big long extra that we had posted just for patrons recently. So patrons, you're able to check that out. We hope you enjoyed it. Got a message from Wes and Wes sent along this video
Starting point is 01:06:11 it's Alex Jones doing Demon Voice and it's over a sort of bunch of gameplay from the video game Doom it was really funny and actually really well done it works to the game so check it out.
Starting point is 01:06:26 It's going to be on this week's show notes. This is episode 412. So Nash sent in a message. This is a sound clip and this is a great clip. I'm probably going to use this in the future. Beep! Beep! Beep! Oh, sorry. What's that? Oh, that's just a you can't make this shit up alarm.
Starting point is 01:06:42 I like that. It's fucking great. Thanks, Josh. We got a message from Chad, and Chad said that they're... Hi, Stacey. They're just... Sorry. They just found us.
Starting point is 01:06:57 They're in college. Getting late all the time. Am I right, Chad? Sorry. And then they said, I don't believe the larger atheist community has any relation to the alt-right but i wonder about uh being less confrontational in atheism and looking at where i can agree with religious people um and then there was a an alt right uh atheism podcast that they sent along that I did not get a chance to listen to.
Starting point is 01:07:26 But I do want to address the question about this. This is something that comes up a lot, and this is something I've said many, many times. I feel like if there's someone who is probably empathetic, a progressive type person that happens to believe in God. And then there's somebody who's like on the far alt-right that happens to be an atheist. The chances that I'm going to agree with the person who is religious are way more likely on almost every single issue. The only one that I'm going to agree with the atheist on is ones by default right where there was sort of like a default uh ally and it's only in like very slim corner cases
Starting point is 01:08:13 i feel like very often the people that we want to surround ourselves with and the people that we want to talk to don't actually have atheist as a thing that they're wearing on the outside yeah you know like that i find i find that you know like i can relate to religious people and you know non-religious people and agnostics and you know people that have very non-mainstream religions just as well as long as I think we agree on other major ethical concerns. Yeah, I think somebody who's socially progressive, I'm going to find a hundred points of commonality. Yeah. And somebody who's socially conservative, I just like, because our worldview, the way we perceive how people are valued is going to just differ too much for me to
Starting point is 01:09:05 bridge that gap. And I do think that there are people that are atheist and alt-right. I don't know that there's a problem in atheism and alt-right because I don't feel like the major atheist movements, the ones that you gather around, have an alt-right component.
Starting point is 01:09:22 So I feel like that's not an issue. I feel like there probably are a lot of atheists in the alt-right,. So I feel like that's not an issue. I feel like there probably are a lot of atheists in the alt-right. What about Mythicist Milwaukee? Yeah, I think that that's a, I genuinely- You think that's an anomaly? Yeah, I don't know. The thing is, is like last time,
Starting point is 01:09:36 Mythicist Milwaukee, from what I, what other people have told me, I didn't intend, but you know, there was a lot of people like that were Trump supporters that probably were very religious that showed up just because they like the things that some of those people have to say politically. So again, they're saying they would say the same thing. I bet you, if you sat down with any of those speakers from mythicist Milwaukee or any of those people that are, you know, either alt-right or courting the alt-right or have those alt-right beliefs or have those very hardline conservative beliefs that happen to be atheists, some of the YouTubers and whatever.
Starting point is 01:10:11 If you sat down with those people and you asked them in a room full of Trump supporters that happen to be very religious, they'd probably agree with them 99 times out of 100. And they would look at me and be like, I only agree with you on the atheism thing. The rest of the shit, you're fucked in. And so they would have the exact same, I think they would have the exact same feeling about me. I feel, that's why I feel like atheism probably isn't a great organizing feature anyway. No, I
Starting point is 01:10:36 don't think it is. Yeah, I don't think it is. You organize around humanism. Yeah, I think so. We got a lot of messages about chemical bombs and why they're worse than conventional weaponry. The main things boiled down to residual chemicals in the atmosphere are worse than regular bombs. Regular bombs do cause a lot of problems in the environment, but residual chemicals, I guess, last longer. They can't control them as easily. So more collateral damage on occasion.
Starting point is 01:11:06 And even direct hits cause people to suffer greatly in really horrible ways. Yeah, the people, the emails. Thank you, by the way, for everybody who sent emails to give me some good information on that. It really helped me think about the question differently. Yeah, absolutely. I'm grateful to you. This is an interesting message. Yeah, absolutely. I'm grateful to you. This is an interesting message from Pete
Starting point is 01:11:27 Tom. It talks about false flags, but then also talking about how they have to relive that trauma. Yeah, he relays a very personal story, which I will not relay. But he says, you know, this shit is the most inhuman torment you can visit on another person. Every time you have to set someone straight
Starting point is 01:11:43 on what happened, every twisted lie you hear forces you back into that place when you first found out that an integral part of your life and your experience is dead. You do not get the opportunity to heal. This is not like when the Alex Jones guys and all the
Starting point is 01:12:00 rest of those assholes, when they look at a tragedy like Newtown or Parkland or any other tragedy that they capitalize on in order to get clicks which is what they're doing you know to sell merch and get clicks whenever that happens you know keep in mind that what is really happening is that they are exploiting somebody's pain exploiting somebody's trauma, exploiting the death of somebody who was loved in order for them to make a fucking profit off of re-traumatizing the family, the friends, and the loved ones of the deceased.
Starting point is 01:12:37 That is, that's what's happening first. Everything else happens after that, subsequent to that. That's the primary action. We got a message from Nathan about how many people live in the United States on less than $30,000 a year. We're going to post a link to this story on this week's show notes,
Starting point is 01:12:57 but check it out. 51% of all American workers make less than $30,000. Yeah, it's most of the amount in the United States lives on less than $30,000 a year. it's most of the amount the United States lives on less than $30,000 a year. It's fucking nuts. Tom, we got a message from Sarah and Sarah talks about
Starting point is 01:13:10 some cult behavior. Yeah, so we were expressing surprise that when somebody is accused of something that they're supported and what have you and that the organization doesn't turn its back on them. And she makes an interesting point. She said that
Starting point is 01:13:27 people in these organizations can't imagine other people not equating leader with the organization itself. So I think for you and I, that never occurred to me because it's like, yeah, it's just a person. Yeah, sure. Like it doesn't... Like what happened with David Silverman. Right. It's like, yeah, okay. Get rid of
Starting point is 01:13:44 him. The person does not color the organization necessarily. Right. Unless the person is somewhat, is integral. But like the, what she's saying is like in a lot of cults, the person is the organization.
Starting point is 01:13:58 They are intertwined. There is no substantial differentiation. I thought that was an interesting point. Got an image for this week. We're going to put it on this week's show notes. This is from Aaron, and it's pretty hilarious. So check it out. It's a Trump image.
Starting point is 01:14:12 A bunch of people sent this to us. We're going to post a link on this week's show notes to a show called Good Mythical Morning. George sent this to us and a bunch of other people. They tasted some Jim Baker buckets and did not like them. They did not. I just want to shout out, like, I love Good Mythical Morning. I just, I do. I don't like almost anything on YouTube at all.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Yeah. And I genuinely love Good Mythical Morning. My son and I have watched dozens and dozens of episodes of it together. I think they're funny, clever guys. I love the chemistry between them. Check it out. Guys, and good Mythical Morning. If you want to come on and talk about the Jim Baker buckets, you're welcome.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Oh my God, yeah. I will go to you. All right, well, that's going to wrap it up for this week. So we're going to have a Thursday show this week. We're going to try to do a almost exclusively politics show that's coming out on Thursday. So if you're interested, watch your podcast feed for that. We are going to leave you like we always do with the Skeptic's Creed. Credulity is not a virtue. It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue, hypno Babylon bullshit. Couched in scientician, double bubble toil and trouble pseudo quasi alternative acupunctuating
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Starting point is 01:17:17 The other day I went to a jewel here in Chicago. That's a grocery store. It's a, it's a grocery store chain here in Chicago. There's only a couple. One of them went out of business recently. And then Jewel is the one. Jewel is all that's left. Jewel is the Ebert.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Yeah. It's just waiting to die. The big jaw. Anyway, I wound up going in and I walk in and I hear Elvis being played being played what at a very loud level by a live performer and I'm like uh yeah and so I look and there's an Elvis impersonator at the bar there's a bar at the jewel and he's playing like blue suede shoes. And so I'm used to what I'm used to when you walk in the supermarket. Now you're used to some aggravation
Starting point is 01:18:09 when you walk in a supermarket. But I wasn't used to this sort of level of I don't know, like chaos that this created. Everything was just off and it gave me crazy anxiety. Because the lights in there make me crazy and the other people make me crazy anxiety because like the lights in there make
Starting point is 01:18:26 me crazy and the other people make me crazy but at least once in a while they play like soft music or no music and now it's like this really shrill bad elvis impersonator that is just permeating the entire establishment you're in the fucking bread aisle like 25 aisles away from this jag off who's fucking singer blue suede shoes and you're're just like, I want to pull my own teeth out of my head. It was the most like, I don't know, like it was the twitchiest experience I've ever had. But like, they just turned everything on their
Starting point is 01:18:53 head and you're just like, I hate this so much. Never do this to me. But grocery stores do that now. Like now it's not just a place you go to buy like toilet paper and balance bars. Like now it's like and when you have balance bars, you need a lot of toilet paper and balance bars. Like now it's like and when you have balance bars, you need a lot of toilet paper. It's your balance.
Starting point is 01:19:09 It's a lot of fiber in those things. Fiber and protein. It's like a car wash in there. But like it's like a dishwasher bomb. I'll have some Tide Pod soup. But like now grocery stores are like, they're selling this idea of like some like high end kind of expect the one
Starting point is 01:19:30 near us. There's a Mariano's near us. And they're like, there's like a piano player, like playing like, and there's tips and shit. And there's like a, there's a, like no shit. Like there's an oyster bar, raw oysters and a wine bar. And it's like, I'm here at a grocery shop! I'm not picking up chicks or whatever. What the fuck
Starting point is 01:19:47 is happening? I just want 12 drumsticks wrapped, not with E. coli or salmonella in them. I'd like to get an eggs and maybe a milks, and then I want to leave. I'm just trying to figure out who's like, you know, I will sit for some oysters. All I'm
Starting point is 01:20:04 trying to do is to avoid eye contact with everyone in your store for a long enough time to leave. That's all I'm trying to do. Who is the customer for that? Who says it's not me? It's not me. I'm too antisocial. Seriously, though. Who's like, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:20:20 take my girl out for a nice meal at the grocery store. Be gay, but if you're not, honey, I got a special night plan. First date at the grocery store.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Like, look, I want it to be casual. Opens up the card and inside is this heart shaped Mariano's gift card. You know, if the night goes well, we can go over to the pharmacy section and get some lube. Or we could just go to the oils aisle.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Either one will work. Whatever. There's some jojoba oil over there. It's fine. Just get some of that coconut stuff. Slap it. Oh, my God. That was marshmallow fluff.
Starting point is 01:21:00 You used the wrong container. It's stuck. No, I used the right container. We're having s'mores tonight.

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