Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 414: When It's Time To Change

Episode Date: May 14, 2018

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The explicit tag is there for a reason. recording live from glory hole studios in chicago this is cognitive dissonance every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no welcome at. This is episode 414 of Cognitive Distance. And Cecil, I was a little nervous walking into the studio today.

Did you notice that our next-door neighbors, a society which I will not mention the name and which has certain shall we say supernatural predilections it appears. They were having their meeting tonight too. Yeah, yeah, I saw.

We're recording on an odd day. We normally record on Thursday nights. The studio and the building and this floor is typically all ours on Thursday nights. But we've had the occasional snafu, shall we say, with our fine neighbors. I was a little worried we were going to interrupt

their seance or their crystal sage reading. They have no problem fucking knocking on our door. Here's the thing. When I say worried, I mean hopeful for confrontation. I guess that's really what I say worried, I mean hopeful for confrontation. I guess that's really what I was saying is I was hopeful. I was, though, because they do their thing with their door open.

You notice that, too? It's like a dorm room. Yeah, it is kind of like a dorm room. It's like, hey, guys, I'm blessed in Bush. You want to come over? Drink a hams? First of all, I've seen your game. You're not blessed in any Bush. No, it's Shaben. Right? I was going to say.

If you are, you're going back in time. What are you, in college in the 70s? You're going back in time? Or you're married. Those are your two options. We've all given up. Terrible. All right. So let's talk about our first story from the Washington Post. People think she's a Parkland crisis actor, and it's terrifying. terrible all right so let's talk about our first story from the washington post uh people think

she's a parkland crisis actor and it's terrifying um this is a fucked up story so um for those who might not be familiar crisis actors are um bullshit non-existent people made up by complete lunatics who have conspiracy theories about these um you know mass shooting events which typically what these are around. And what they think is that these events did not occur or did not occur the way that they're stated and that many of the survivors that are filmed and otherwise gain notoriety as surviving these attacks are actors. They're called crisis actors. There were people who thought some of the surviving children from Newtown were crisis actors.

And they also, they've said many times that they think that they've seen the same person at different sites. So when there's a site and somebody happens to have a similar haircut or is like a mom, and they're like, oh, look at that mom lady who looks a lot like other moms, happens to be at this other school. That's why it's the jeans. You can tell by the 13-inch zipper. It could be the jeans. You know, that that's... So, you know, one of the problems with this is like this crisis actor, conspiracy

theory, false flag, bullshit narrative is being fed and fueled by a whole host of particularly virulent lunatics, Alex Jones being one of them. Sure. Um,

and you know, his, his ilk and his followers. And then these guys get online and they have whole like fucking masturbatory fantasies about this, this thing that's not happening. And they find, they,

they find these folks and they harass them except for sometimes they get even being wrong, wrong. wrong. And that's what this story is about, which is it highlights how fucked up this is. Right. So Emma Gonzalez is one of the survivors from the Parkland shooting. And Emma Gonzalez is just I mean, these are just kids, by the way, just fucking high school kids. And she became a rather vocal proponent of common sense gun control to try to avoid getting, you know,

shot at again, say in her fucking school. And the right hates her. The right absolutely hates her. They're the ones that she's the one that they Photoshop tearing up the constitution or the bill of rights rather. Well, there's a woman who's Emma Gonzalez.

She's not the Emma Gonzalez. Somebody, somebody searched for a name. Some, somebody, the people find her, they searched for a name. I found her on the internet. They found searched for her name. The people find her. They searched for her name. They found her on the internet. They found out where she worked. They published that shit. And then all these other idiots,

they glom onto this. And now this poor person who's not even... There is no crisis actor. The real... The Emma Gonzalez associated with the Parkland event is not a crisis. Yeah.

She's a real person. Right. Yeah. This woman is super duper not a crisis actor. Yeah. She just a person. Right. Who happens to have the same name.

And is getting harassed. She's being harassed at work. She's a chef or whatever. It's interesting. I wonder why. if they're going after these people more, especially like the Parkland shooters, a lot more and are being a lot, you know, not only going after them and attacking them,

attacking their character. We've talked about this many times, that they're just constantly ad hominems against them. They're attacking their character, but they're also, there's all these things that talk about them being crisis actors constantly. That's a major theme about this, is that they're talking about being in crisis.

I wonder if it's because they are unlike many of the other shootings in the past, it seems like they are pushing for change in a very, very large way. Like the Sandy, you didn't see a lot of people after Sandy Hook say, come out and say, we need gun control.

I mean, maybe, maybe they said it once or twice, but they certainly weren't standing on a big stage saying we need gun control. And so that sort of stuff passes over quickly, right? Like, yeah, they're crisis actors. Maybe they're not, blah, blah, blah.

And then, you know, America just forgets about it because we're waiting for the next one anyway. Right. And so, but this one feels like they're constantly talking about it because they think that these people are not backing down. They keep on pushing for, you know, they're talking about, you know, more and more gun control. They want more gun control. And that's upsetting a lot of people. And so not only are they creating ad hominems, but they're also just creating stories.

No, which is, I mean, it's like, what's crazy is they are behaving as if these kids who survived the shooting and who are advocating for gun control, they are behaving as if these kids are saying like, you know, turn in all your guns, melt them into- Exactly, yeah. Turn them into, we got to beat them into...

Right, and plowshares. And no one... Nobody is even suggesting that. I was going to say beat them into swords. That seems bad. And then beat those swords into guns. We're going to turn our guns into swords and our swords back into guns.

Turn your corn into bullets. It just amazes me that we're so opposed to gun control that even like even people even children who've been fucking shot at and we're like hey man yeah i'd really like that to never happen again even even they are the subject of this incredible amount of iron yeah and so this this other the non-emma gonzalez emma gonzalez is like she's like a chef at a restaurant people are fucking coming into her place, taking pictures of her surreptitiously

and less than surreptitiously. Saying you exist. Right. Saying you exist. Oh, you're real. You know, like, holy shit. They're fucking with this person's life. They're making phone calls and threats.

Yeah. These people are not harmless, right? No. This is not a harmless, like, like a harmless theory on the internet. This is somebody who is creating harm in someone's life. They gave her a fucking, practically gave her a nervous breakdown coming into her place because she feels in danger.

Because she is in danger. Because remember the Pizzagate thing? That dude showed up with a fucking assault rifle. I want to mention, though, I sort of jotted some things down today. If you had to think that this was true right if you if you believe that this woman what they think happened is is that this woman was uh was a crisis actor in this so here's what you have to think is actually true in order for that to work first off the deep state has to be real right the deep state has to be a thing because that's controlling

everything several hundreds or thousands of people know about this and never mention it on camera the deep state casted a quasi public figure because that's what she was she was in internet she had a youtube channel she uh works in you know in front of it in a as a chef and they mentioned that she's she's already kind of like not internet famous but she at least has she some notoriety. She has some notoriety. So they went out of their way to cast somebody who's a quasi public figure, Tom, with the same name, but 15 years older than an actual high school student. So they decided they decided, you know what we're going to do? We don't need a high school student. We're not going to go to the casting company and get somebody who's in high school or somebody who looks like they're in high school. Okay. Instead, you're going to find this person

who just happens to have the same name, but you're going to cast them in a role that they don't need. So they'll need extensive plastic surgery to look like the other. Yeah. Well, I mean, to be fair, like that's way easier to do than just calling someone a different name, Bill. Fuck. No, you can just call someone a different. and and then and then this person this person here didn't clearly make enough money as a crisis actor to just go into hiding and be a crisis actor and just do that full-time she has to fly back to new york on occasion to work part-time front of the house in a restaurant as a chef which is sort of amazing given the number of crises we have in America.

You'd think she'd be working overtime. You'd think the only issue is just fucking burnout from all the mass shootings. I just can't believe how you put all that stuff together and say, you know what, that's down.

Because they don't add it all up. Right. What they do is they add up. It's all this conspiracy shit. They add up all the wrong pieces. Yeah. They add up all the... Remember we talked about

the loose change video. And it's like they go anomaly hunting. They find all the things that they would expect to be true from an event that has not occurred before. And then they say, okay, this event that has never occurred before should, in my mind as a non-expert, look like this. And because

in my non-expert opinion, it doesn't look the way I imagine it would look when I imagine how this happens in my head, I can start picking out anomalies and doing that fucking detective in a fucking bad movie yarn connection thing. You're a fucking Reddit sleuth. Right. And you fucked it up. Right. And you fucked it up every time. You know, you made an interesting comment. Like it's not just a harmless internet theory. Like I'm not convinced that there's a whole lot of harmless theories anymore. Like the fact that a theory might be confined to the online world does not seem to matter because the online world is no longer confined to the online world.

The Pizzagate guy showed up with a fucking machine. The Pizzagate guy was right there. The incel guys drove a van into a crowd full of fucking people. The alt-right community beat the shit out of a bunch of people in Charlotte. Right. Fucking killed some people. Right. Yeah.

Right. Fucking killed some people down there. Yeah. So there's no, like this idea that there, that our culture or our community is confined in some way to a different type of space. And so therefore the standards

that we hold in those spaces should be less, does not seem to hold a lot of water because we're constantly seeing. Yeah, there's a lot of hand waving that happens, you know, where you're like, oh yeah, it's just the internet.

It's just the internet. It's just shit posting or whatever. Yeah. Except for that. There's no such thing as confined. These are still just people who go out and like, you know, we're seeing it again and again and again, where they go out in the real world and they act on these thoughts. Like, it's not like their thoughts only live online. Yeah. They're, they're acting based on their thoughts and they're acting based on, you know, the reinforcement of a community of people and and and lives are being lost, like literally lost because of this. Sure. Yeah, it's it's it's an interesting thing because there's it's not just one one conspiracy that causes this either. It's not just this type of conspiracy. There's plenty of conspiracies that cause people to go out and do stuff like that.

Rape the pedophile one that they said, you know, that pedigreeogate the person we're gonna cover a story later that liz croak and she's constantly harping on the pedophile thing right i would not be surprised she gets somebody killed i would that would not shock me at all if she gets somebody killed like that wouldn't i would not be like i would not come in and be like tom can you believe it we would just cover and be like yeah that was gonna happen that was gonna happen that's not unexpected yeah somebody's gonna die because somebody's gonna say that kids are being harmed. Somebody almost died and been fucking the pizza gate. I know.

Well, and do you remember like after the Boston bombing, when like the Reddit, Reddit got it wrong, got it all wrong. And they, you know, they,

they fucking, they fucked with somebody like pretty bad. So people's lives with a family of somebody who had committed suicide or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Like really bad. Like it was awful.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. So there's no such thing as this idea that like, that, that this sort of behavior is confined to this other space. Like this, there is no meaningful separation between the,

the, that space in the real world anymore. Like they're all the same space. And it's not harmless. That's the main thing. Right. That's the main thing. Right.

It's not harmless. It's not harmless. That's the main thing. Right. That's the main thing is that it's not harmless. It's not. Who's that guy on the other side of the glory hole? It's Jesus. This story is a nightmare. This is from Star Tribune. Minnesota priest accused of abusing 60 boys in Guam. Dozens of men accused a 96 year old priest of

molesting them when they were boys. One of the things in this article that struck me is it's like they said something like at least 60 men or as many as 60. It's like when you can't even pin the number of people that you have

fucking raped down to five dozen. Yeah. You're like, ah, I'm not 100% sure. Nobody's 100% sure. Some of them might have died in the interim. It's many, many dozens of people, right? Are you fucking kidding me with this shit? I know the guy's 96, right?

There's nothing meaningful that can happen to a 96 year old person. Like, what do you need to throw him in jail? He's going to die in jail. He could die right now. He's 96. The really crazy thing is that he left and he took some boys from

Guam with him to Minnesota. Like he left with like a to-go mug of kids to rape. And they're like, get it for him. They're like, like, with like a to go mug of kids. And they're like, they're like, get it from the, like, Hey,

you want to leave room for cream in this? No, they are sweet as sugar. These ones. It's ridiculous. Like he left. And then like, like,

like those people are coming to the States. Like, what do you say to those people? Like, why do you want my body? Well, it's not to fuck him. It's not to fuck him or anything like that.

A lot of us priests travel with young boys. Don't worry. You'll read about it 40 years from now. It's totally fine. Well, yeah. And they're already saying that they're selling assets to try to get ahead of some of this stuff because they took the statute of limitations off in Guam,

which is a U.S. territory. Territory, yes. They took the statute of limitations off in Guam, which is a U.S. territory. Territory, yes. They took the statute of limitations off for this crime, and a bunch of people came forward because that happens all the time. Right. They had to sell some of their assets,

and they're selling other assets just getting ready for other cases because they know they're coming. They know it's happening. It's in the pipe. And the reason why they know it's coming is because I think that they were complicit. They had people there.

They sent people to Guam. They took people that were probably diddling kids in other nations and send them to Guam. And then they, they moved those other ones around to the other area. They're complicit in this. They, they've caused this problem.

They caused this problem. They didn't stop it. They had every power. They had everything in their power to say, you know what? Fuck that. Not in my house. They had every power to do that,

but instead they just let it happen. Do you know what's worse to think about in my mind is that not only do they know that it happened, they were complicit back in the day, right? But now, now you know this has happened. The light is fucking shining on it. What it strikes me the responsible moral thing to do would be to say, oh my God, we know something about this guy. Here are the places that he's been. Let's go to those places and find out if there's other victims and find a way to make this right. Right. That's the only thing that you can do that would be moral.

There's nothing else that you could do that could ever be a morally just action. And they will not do it. What they'll do instead is they'll say, OK, let's try to do everything we can to make this go away as cheap as possible here. It's almost like that they were involved in a hit and run and they keep saying, prove I was there. Yeah, right. Prove it was me. Prove it was me. Instead of being like stopping on the side of the road, they took off.

Which just like all this tells me is like, at least that part of the church does not give a fuck. They didn't care. And they still don't care. And they still don't care. They still don't care. Yeah. There's one moral thing to do. And as soon as you don't do it, you don't give a shit.

Absolutely. Agencies of government. EPA needs to be rebuilt. There's no doubt about that. But you can't name the third one? The third agency of government, I would do away with the education, the commerce. And let's see. I can't. The third one, I can't.

Sorry. Oops. Commerce, education, and the, what's the third one there? Let's see. The EPA. EPA, there you go no this is unreal we're living in bizarro times right now are we not living in bizarro times

did you notice the sky was orange when you woke up this morning and it never changed and at night it's like fucking polka dots all right it's orange all right right it's orange this is from cnn politics trump i can't even believe i'm reading this out loud this is some alternate reality fucking polka dots. It's orange. All right. Right. It's orange. This is from CNN politics. Trump. I can't even believe I'm reading this out loud. This is some alternate reality universe shit right now. Trump appointing Dr. Oz.

I don't want, why am I keep reading Dr. Oz to his sport fitness and nutrition council. So I guess it's just going to be fucking goji berries for everybody. He's on the phone. He's like, Hey, why don't we get that guy who voiced optimist pride to be the department of

transportation? Let's do that. Let's get that. A McGruff crime dog. He could do justice. What do you think? Huh? Can you call Saul Goodman?

I need a lawyer. So far too upstanding at this point for him. Yeah. He does need a Saul Good Saul's far too upstanding at this point for him. He does need a Saul Goodman lawyer, though. Let me tell you, he definitely needs a Saul Goodman lawyer. I mean, this is just what it is. Like, we're just in a crazy,

bizarro universe where reality TV stars are appointing other reality TV stars to be a part of their fucking advisory committee. There's a movie like Idiocracy or whatever. I've never seen it, but a lot of people say it's like that's very similar to what's happening now. It's like. There's a movie, like Idiocracy or whatever. I've never seen it, but a lot of people say it's like that's very similar to what's happening now.

It's like... There's a Simpsons episode where Trump becomes president years and years ago. And it's like the Simpsons made fun of this very idea and then it fucking happened. It's like there is no level of farce to which we can descend at this point. It says here that White House also announced Friday

that Trump will appoint former bodybuilder Lou Ferrigno, famous for playing the Hulk in the television show, The Incredible Hulk, in the 70s and 80s, and New England's Patriots coach Bill Belichick to the council for two-year terms. Bill Belichick, Tom, I know you have no idea who this is, but I got to show you a picture of what Bill Belichick looks like. Okay, he's going to be on the Sports, Nutrition, and Fitness Councils, let me say.

Look at him, he's got moves. I guess if you want somebody who has dad bod, no worries. But he's not a fucking fit dude. Look at this guy. He looks like every other fucking guy standing in his fucking garage drinking beer on a Saturday. He totally looks like he would have a fantasy football team. Yeah.

You look at this guy and you're like, yeah, no, that guy hasn't caught a pass. Oh my God. But yeah, Bill Belichick, Bill Belichick, who looks like a budget zombie. What does Lou Ferrigno look like now? Lou Ferrigno can't look great. Lou Ferrigno's got to be a thousand years old at this point. He has like one giant testicle. Actually, he still looks, he looks fucking outstanding.

He still looks, he still looks great. He still looks great for being, for being as old as he is. It literally doesn't matter what age he is. And taking not much fucking horse tranquilizer. He looks great. He looks great. But Dr. Oz, Dr. Oz is, is, is a fucking, he's a complete joke. He's a farce of a human being.

He defended himself in a statement saying, I bring the public information that will help them on their path to be their best selves. We provide multiple points of view, including mine, which is offered without conflict of interest. That guy is a walking conflict of interest. Most of the shit that he says, he then sells. Yeah. Like he gets his whole shtick. Get on to oprah talk

about the miracle weight loss plan that you know you just have to eat a dirt food or whatever eat a pill like there's a pill there's a miracle he talks about miracle pills all the time they grilled him and fucking the senate about it and it just it doesn't matter like a day they're putting him on there you know it's interesting because it really does show look at look at all the little councils that he has he's doing it because these people are popular. Yeah, right. He's doing, he's getting, you know, wasn't the Tesla guy on there? The guy, whatever, Elon Musk or whatever.

Elon Musk, yeah. Wasn't Bill Gates part of one of his technical ones for a while? A couple of other really famous people. He's basically, he's like, he's just finding all these really famous people and he's putting them up there instead of, you know, like look at what Obama did with Department of Energy is a perfect example, right? Under Trump, it's a guy who like couldn't even remember what fucking branches of government he was going to close down as president, Rick Perry. Okay, hold on a minute.

He has glasses now and that makes him smarter. And it was only three. In his defense, it was only three different departments he couldn't remember. The one that he forgot is the one he now has. The one he now has, yeah. So that guy or Obama had like a fucking nuclear physicist.

Like a guy who actually had a PhD and was a professor and knows a lot about nuclear fucking physics. And he's just like, yeah, that guy. So he doesn't care if you're qualified. He just cares if you bring something to the table or if he owes you something. That's just how he is. He's putting together lunch tables for the cool kids. Yeah. That's all this is.

It's obscene. He's going to promise everybody that there's going to be sweet new snacks in the vending machine in order to be class president. Yeah. Vote for Pedro. The thing is, is like this guy, I don't, and I know we're getting a little hot about Dr. Osby and on a council. It could be a nothing council. That's the other thing, too, is it's a waste of time because it's probably. Osby and on a council. It could be a nothing council. That's the other thing too, is it's a waste of time because it's probably not going to be enough.

It's going to be a nothing council. You almost certainly won't pay any attention to it. It doesn't pay attention to anything science. So why would he pay attention? That's true. So, you know, like,

so it doesn't matter. It is. I think this is all for show. Yeah. Okay. And clearly sports, nutrition and fitness are not his priorities. Yeah.

You just take a look at the man. No, unless all they're going to do is golf. Yeah. Like it's exclusively a golf-related. And have cake eating. That may be. He gets two cakes for every one cake you get.

Contrary to popular opinion, God is not against sex. It was his idea in the first place. All right. In hypocrite news, this comes from Friendly Atheist from the Atheist Blog. Franklin Graham, Trump's affair with Stormy Daniels is nobody's business. Well, let's play it. I'm not going to play the whole thing because the beginning is interesting. I'm going to skip about halfway through this so we can start listening to it.

I don't have concern in the sense because these things happened many years ago. It happened that many years ago. It didn't happen that. And it happened in like 2006 or something. Right. Yeah. I, you know,

the thing is, is like, I don't have any concern that any of it happened. I just have concern about the coverup. Like that's what I have concern about. But, but the fact that something happened years ago does not, it should not in any way ameliorate his concerns.

Cause I guarantee if it was a fucking Democrat, it would not. Right. If this was Obama, his concerns would not be minimized because this happened in 2002 or whatever. Like the reason it bothers or it doesn't bother him because it happened many years ago is because that's a way for him to be dismissive of

something. It's a way to hand wave that he's otherwise moralistic about. But another thing too, is like, like I think of that guy that they post with Hillary Clinton, the guy who used to be a KKK guy, the guy she kissed or whatever on the cheek.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. He was a KKK guy and he was, and then he came out and said, I made a huge mistake. I shouldn't do that. And he went on for like a long time to be a Senator or whatever. And he fought for civil rights issues,

et cetera, et cetera. So he changed his ways. Trump hid this from everybody and only talked about it when it was recent. He didn't come out and say, you know what? I made a really huge mistake. I messed up. I did this thing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's been hidden until very recently.

So, you know what? To be honest, I actually do have a problem with him lying about it because he's lying to the American people. You know, if he's willing to lie about that, and that's what one of the things that they say too, because it says in this article at the bottom, this is Billy Graham wrote this in 1998 about President Clinton said, if he will lie or mislead his wife or daughter, those of whom he is most intimate, what will prevent him from doing the same to the American public? Private conduct does have public consequences. He wrote that in 1998. So like,

and I know what, to be perfectly honest, I kind of agree with that. Like, if you're going to lie to people, I know you're lying to people and obfuscate the truth. There's some, there should be ramifications. There should be some sort of repercussions for that because, you know, you're, if you're doing it with this tiny thing, which is, you know, just, you know, you having an affair outside of marriage, an extramarital affair. Well, what would you do if you wanted to sell weapons or something? You know what I mean? Like, like there's a lot of things that you could hide as a as a president.

And it's and this is unbelievable that they're willing to hand wave this shit off. Well, there's also no reason to think like the example that you gave before. It's like, well, this guy, you know, used to be a shithead, and then he changed his mind, and then he apologized, and he's no longer a shithead. Those are views you can change, right? But there's no reason to think, and again, his sexual misadventures notwithstanding, there's no reason to think that Trump has changed. Because it's not like one thing. It's a series. It's a pattern of behaviors that continues to come up. And there's, there's no reason to think that he, it would be different if he's like, yeah, man, you know, I'm just a different guy. And I had this moment in my life

where I reflected about how I treated other people in my life. And I realized that that's not a way I want to treat other people in my life. It's not the man who I would like to be. Sure. Okay. You know what, man? Bully for you. Instead, it's like, never happened, didn't happen. Didn't happen. You caught me. It happened. It doesn't matter. It did happen, but it wasn't for what you think it was for. Right. But we're not sure what it was for. You know, fucking own it.

Yeah. There's such bigger problems in front of us as a nation that we need to be dealing with other than other things in his life a long time ago. I think some of these things that's for him and his wife to deal with. I think when the country went after President Clinton, the Republicans, that was a great mistake that should never have happened. And I think the same with Stormy Daniels and so forth is nobody's business.

And we've got other business at hand that we need to deal with. Okay, I gotta say, like, so much of religion is involved in getting in other people's fucking business, right? That's like religion's whole thing is to legislate the morality of other people's social interactions. That's like their whole thing. And it's specifically their private business. It's actually, religion doesn't really reflect on or judge much or get involved much with our sort of larger social selves or our public selves. It has very much to do very often with how we interact with other people on a very personal, uh, private level.

And it's moralistic and codified and judgy as fuck about all that stuff. That's your whole fucking thing. Religion. That's like, that's what you guys love to do. So like, how is this nobody's business? Yeah.

Well, it's nobody's business. Cause he's doing all the policies that we want. Oh, I forgot. That's why it's no, we're okay with that. Yeah.

So, cause it's hypocrites times. You have to understand that he's also all the policies that we want. Oh, I forgot. That's why it's no problem. We're okay with that. Yeah. Because it's hypocrite's times. You have to understand that he's also 71 years old. And he can barely get it up. He can't. Look, he's very unlikely to fuck anybody. Here's the thing. When you're that overweight and you're that old,

Jesus Christ, you ain't doing anything without a cock ring. And I don't think he came to be president by mistake or by happenstance. I think somehow God put him in this position. Because we can't figure out how the fuck else it could have happened. That's exactly it, right? All these guys are like, look. Here's the thing, man. You lost by 3 million votes.

It has to be supernatural. There's no way. So fucking unlikely that this happened. We can't come up with anything but a supernatural. I don't know. This is like real life Bigfoot footage, guys. This is it. Every time you see up with anything but a supernatural. I don't know. This is like real life Bigfoot footage, guys. This is it.

Every time you see something like that, a wizard does it. Because he's not a politician. He seemed to do everything wrong as a politician. He offended many people and did the wrong things.

But somehow he became president. And I just have to think that God, in some reason, put him there for for a purpose i don't know what that is or it's a terrible mistake it is he he doesn't know what that purpose is either he doesn't know what the purpose is either you know it's funny because i generally talked about earlier i genuinely don't care about sex like i don't care about but he should like of all the people who should care about it,

it should be him, right? It should be him who cares about it. It shouldn't be anybody. Like, all the rest of us are just like, whatever, we don't care. And I only care that he paid money or might have funneled funds to it. Like, I care about that. I care about the fact that, you know,

he's hushing someone up, somebody who could clearly change the entire political face of his entire candidacy by coming forward. So I see it as a, you know, that's what I'm worried about. That's the thing that I'm worried about. And that's what I think everybody should be worried about. This isn't something you just say, well, there's a lot more problems in the world. Yeah, you know what?

There can be a threat of nuclear war and we can still say, turns out, we don't want somebody in there who did this sort of thing. We don't think that that is something that should be reflected in the office of the presidency. I mean, don't you think the moral character of the person in that position is of real consideration? Yeah, right. Because if you don't, then what do you care about any of that? Because they're constantly on those campaign runs talking about how holy they are. I know. How much they love God.

And isn't this like Graham thing where he's like, look, you know, I mean, he did everything wrong and he still wants, there must be God's plan. You know, that's kind of the problem with that. Like that line of thinking where you think that the world is created for you. Yeah. Is it's like when shitty things like this happen,

like the president, like we can't understand how this horrible person became president, your line of thinking won't allow you to say like, well, that was a fucking mistake. What do we do to fix it? Instead, it's like, well, I believe in an idea of a plan. This has to then fit into the idea

that there is a plan. Yeah. And so it's not just that we made a fucking bad decision. It's that God is now involved. So we have to double down on that shitty decision. Ready to stick it in the glory hole, get links to their Facebook, Twitter.

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that has decided to kill humans this is alex jones from his show info wars operating under is a collage of chaos tactics so many So many stories that happen multiple times a day over the weeks, over the years that you cannot focus or keep up with anything. Information apocalypse. That's what it's called. I just made it up. It's the worst Avengers movie. I love the sincerity

and sure it is. Information apocalypse. I know what it is. You know what it is. We all know what it is. I know what it is you know what it is we all know what it is yeah I know and then it's just like and then hold on this guy's just going to agree with him right hold on information apocalypse 100% that's what it is 100% 100% 100%

Roger just did and what we do on InfoWars all the time is tie it together in a perpetual timeline it's all tied together what wait hold on wait what did he say okay hold on he said we tie together in a perpetual timeline it's all tied together Info, hold on. Wait, what did he say? Okay, hold on. He said we tie together in a perpetual timeline. It's all tied together. People work all the time. It's tied together in a perpetual timeline. It's all

tied together. What the fuck does that mean? Alex Jones is nodding along like, yes, it's tied together in a perpetual timeline. It's all tied together. Yeah. You know, I guess like over enough time, you can find those threads that link

orange juice to the tabernacle or something, but it's like, well, how meaningful is it at this point? You know, like we all share a common ancestor. That doesn't mean you can go out and fuck a giraffe. You can, but you just need a leg. Because, you know, you can focus can focus on what they want to keep you in the moment confused i mean that's what gruber said it's all about confusing us fog of war but we've got the enemy battle map we're not even looking at what they're projecting we've got

their battle map and that's what they hate is he on coke it's amazing what the fuck you guys watch this clip because he's just quietly, he's just nodding along. He's rocking. And it's just, all of a sudden, it's like it's his turn to speak. And it's like somebody reaches inside of him and flips a switch. And it's like, oh, God. And he can't not move every muscle simultaneously. And sometimes it's not his turn to speak.

He just jumps right in. It doesn't matter. We got the battle map. We got the battle map. Exactly. This is. Exactly. He just jumps right in. It doesn't matter. We got the battle map. We got the battle map. Exactly. Nailed it. I'm just going to continue my comment. I will say exactly, but I don't

mean exactly. Information apocalypse. Thanks, but no thanks. We could say this is not about Iran. This is about Mars. Meaning this is about attacking Elon, attacking the human evolution, attacking where we're going. What the fuck are you talking about? Attacking

Elon? Elon Musk. Yeah. Who's going to take us to Mars? Elon Musk. Do they like Elon? I don't think they know what to do with Elon Musk. I think they hero worship people like him, for sure. Yeah, kind of guy who's just like, I got enough money to make a rocket.

Yeah. I don't think they know what to do with something like that. Why did Elon make his money off of initially? Was it Tesla or something else? That's a good question. I don't know. Oh, PayPal.

He invented PayPal or he, he eventually came and became involved with PayPal, which has bought out for 1.5 billion. Then he did Tesla after that. So it was PayPal first. So the main, he got, he got rich off zip two.

Yeah. And then he, $340 million rich. And then he, and then he eventually got 1.5 billion rich from PayPal, which was bought by eBay. Wow. So he invented PayPal.

Well, it was one of the pioneers. It was one of his things. One of his things. So that makes sense. Wow. So yeah, like he's, he's a, you know, he's the kind of guy who could just be like,

I'd like a rocket. Yeah, right. I'm just like... He's worth like $20 billion. Yeah. I'll make you a rocket. Sounds good. I dreamed something yesterday.

Make it real. Like, all right. Llamas in pajamas. Here we go. I guess you're right. They do. That's kind of their guy. Yeah.

Playing this other game. This is already an AI system that made the decision I guess you're right. That's kind of their guy. This is already an AI system that made the decision to have a post-human world and Trump has jumped in with others and are saying, no, we're not doing it at the elite level. What the fuck? What does that mean? This is already an AI system that has decided it wants to live in a post-human world

and Trump said no. Says no. We don't have AI yet. Well, I think the problem is that the AI just isn't forceful enough. Well, that's because it's respectful. AI is not asserting itself, Tom, like it should.

It is not being as forceful as it needs to in these business meetings with Trump to say, you know what, we want to be post-human. Maybe the AI... We just want to move past the humans. Maybe the AI is just looking for informed, enthusiastic consent. Maybe. You never know. You never know. The AI doesn't want to get

a Me Too. There's like some fax machine that's like, Me Too. Me Too. Me Too. Later on a modem calls in. It's like, You shut up, you whore! Shut up!

None of this happens in a vacuum. None of this happens in singular movements. Vacuum tubes, yes, but not an actual. Although some of it happens in space, which is a vacuum. Anyway, a lot of this is happening in a vacuum. All of the machines that want to be in a post-human world that are having sex to reproduce are like,

yeah, more vacuum. More vacuum is good. I like the more vacuum. It's just Elon Musk and the Dyson inventor just like... So your balls will stay on when you do that. You wouldn't believe the attachments we don't sell. In singular movements it's all connected

we've already forgotten about Vegas they roll Parkland out so what happened to Vegas it's unsolved no big deal we know what happened to do with the Saudis now they're having a firefight there in Saudi Arabia and it's going to get us into war with Iran and they don't want us to question the next false flag that's what they're really pissed about

it's why they said I said Parkland didn't happen why didn't you say that you totally did false flag. That's what they're really pissed about. It's why they said, I said Parkland didn't happen. Why didn't you say that? You kind of did, though. You totally did. You suggested it was a false flag. You suggested everything's a false flag. Yeah, exactly. And that's why you're saying about this, you know, I hope the people that are survivors from the

Vegas shooting start suing you, too. I hope the people from the next mass shootings just sue him preemptively. Like, as soon as it happens, it's just like, let's file a suit. Just put it right on them. Autumn turns to winter and then winter turns to spring. It's not just the season, you know,

it goes for everything. It's even true for voices. When boys begin to grow, you got to take the lesson from mother nature. And if you do, you'll know when it's time to change then it's time to change don't fight the tide come along for the ride don't you see this clip is fucking beautiful right wing watch michael snyder says that if elected

he'll be quote ranting like alex jones on the house floor oh great this is uh another alex jones clip oh a lot of the Republicans are totally clueless. And, you know, it's like when they go to D.C., it's like they have their signs surgically removed. They're constantly compromising on anything. There's no way this guy is going to get elected. He sounds like a fucking somebody who's got a squeaky toy

that's almost out of air. Like, it's at the very end. You know, like when you squeeze the squeaky toy and it's done, and you're kind of like like right at the end. After his his voice changes he might have a shot he's peter brady it's like are you fucking it's time to go his mustache can we just talk for a second yeah no, no, guys, you gotta see this. You gotta see this. That is a porn stache. It is insane. Nobody has that mustache.

Yeah, no, not unless you're, well, you do when you're 13. You have that mustache when you're 13. You have that mustache if you lost a bet and you're 13. Are you kidding me? Anyway, guys, I got like six hairs on my upper lip. he sounds like the kid

working the cash register in the simpsons you know it does holy shit they've been compromising for so long they don't believe in anything anymore that's why we need to send people to washington that aren't just right on the issues but that are willing to fight and if i go to congress i mean we very well understand i'm going to be the most there's literally no chance you're going to Congress. Also, we haven't had anything happen in Congress in like seven years. You want to think about people who are digging their heels and ready to fight. Look at everybody there now.

Nobody there is willing to compromise. And I got to say, too, like there have been a lot of senators elected that have been just on fire. And I think genuinely so. And then they run into the massive obstructionist wall of Washington politics and all that fire just sort of gets doused out by the fucking reality of working in that system. Yeah. They're,

they're, they're Mr. Smith. When they go to Washington, they're fucking Eeyore after the most hated member of Congress, the whole of Washington, D.C. Oh, it'd be beautiful if you were there because Because I would basically interrupt you and tell you what to say.

When you get there, let me know. Bend over. I'll shove my hand up your ass and use you like a human puppet, you fucking crazy mustachioed motherfucker. Just educating folks in Idaho by running and you are in a close second place in a seven-way race. They'd be the only educated folks in Idaho you are in a close second place of seven way they'd be the only educated folks in idaho he's a close second place in idaho tom a close second place first place is an actual potato first place first place is a steer it is you can't be a potato

and do it because they'll pull your plug in what is the population of Idaho? Nine? Now let's find out. Like who? Like, are you fucking kidding me? The whole state! 1.7 million! The whole state is 1.7 million people. In the whole state. Baller. You can make it on your own.

Your state is a piece of shit. Oh, man. Yeah, everybody gets their own square mile too. you can make it on your own your state is a piece of shit oh man everybody gets their own square mile too but if you get there imagine you up there on C-SPAN on national TV everywhere going through the new world order that'll make a difference

you should go through the new world order once you get fucking put in office that would be fucking amazeballs I would love to have somebody who's an actual conspiracy theorist that isn't the president that would be amazing i can't believe you had to just say that that isn't because yeah that's that's a true thing yeah i love the idea that like so i know i know he is a conspiracy absolutely it's like he's there was i remember reading article like the various conspiracies that trump has espoused and it's it's dozens yeah like the man conspiracies that Trump has espoused. And it's dozens of them. Like, the man is fucking crazy.

I have to think there's actually, I mean, I think anybody who's a climate change denier is a conspiracy theorist, right? Because they think that there is a conspiracy. Absolutely. Absolutely. The anti-vaccine people. I think there's a lot of conspiracy nuts in Congress. Yeah, they're not as vocal. But, you know, this guy would be talking about conspiracies that I think even conspiracy theorists

that are talking about that are more mainstream would be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, that's not hard. We don't do that one here. We do these. These are the lists of approved. Pick one from the list. Go back, Michael.

Pick one from the list. Shave that mustache. That's for Idaho. That's not for here. Get rid of that. It'll take you literally two snips. No, you just like, you didn't have to look to cut that off. Follow your nose. For the TPP, going to the Department of Education, it would really be a good thing. Oh, and I'll go right to the floor of the House of Representatives, and I'll start ranting like

Alex Jones. You guys know me right from the floor of the House of Representatives. So if you want to see that, we have this opportunity to defeat the globalists one seat at a time. Oh, and I'm saying don't be like the Democrats. I love that he's so weak that Alex Jones can just walk

right over him. I love how weak he is. I'm going to show up and I'm going to be so powerful. You were saying, sir. What were you saying? I'm sorry. I didn't mean to talk

during your show. Of course I brought you some coffee. I love you. Actually, you just keep talking. I'll climb under the desk. And if your mom, your dad, your cousin, your brother, whatever died the last few years on the voter roll, do not go in and vote in their name. And I'm not being tongue-in-cheek.

What? Yeah. Don't use dead people's names. Glad you had to say that out loud to people. Don't go ahead and do that. That'd be wrong. Yeah, we all know that's wrong. And you couldn't anyway.

You can't anyway. I think he's saying unlike the Democrats. We really shouldn't become the enemy. But go catch illegals or folks voting in the name of dead people. Just make sure you get out and you vote. Because you know they're going to pull some hanky-panky. What are you talking about? All the illegal voters in Idaho?

If there was one person with a strong tan in Idaho, they would be pulled over and tasered. Idaho's got to be the whitest state in America. It might not be. I know you said it and then you had to pull it back. I know, because I don't know if it is or not. But I know it's not be, but it is. I know you said it and then you had to pull it back. I know, because I don't know

if it is or not, but I know it's not not. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. But the beautiful thing is the primaries, we can have so much more of an impact

than the general election. Because that's the only chance you'll have is to get any votes is in the primary. Is in the primary. Because you're not going to win the primary. But that is an issue.

The Democrats are giving driver's licenses all over the country, illegals to vote. They're doing all this. And then we as libertarians or Christians, we don't cheat. Did you see that they did come out with a thing in Chicago? It's a ID for anyone who is a resident of Chicago, and it does not take United States citizenship into account. No. But you can't vote.

You can use it as a way to show people that you can vote. That you exist. That you can vote. But you don't automatically get to vote if you have it. Oh, okay. So it's just an ID that you can use.

And you can waive it. But the thing is, you don't have to present an ID in Illinois to vote. No, you don't. You don't have to present. I actually specifically leave my ID at home when I go to vote. Do you really?

Or I've been there twice, and they've asked for it. I've been there many, many times. Like, clearly, I vote every election. But my polling place, the last two times I walked in and I said, you know, I'm here to vote. And they're like, can I see your ID is what he said. And I said, no, you can't. And they

just let you go. And he goes, and he goes, and he looked at me like, and I was like, you can't see my ID. I told him my name and I told him where I lived. And then he found me in the list and then he gave me the stuff and that's because that's how you have to do it. Like that's the rule of law

in Illinois is you do not have to show an ID. I wonder if they're asking for ID because people's names are difficult. Super easy. Yeah, I just don't do it. I wonder if it's just lazy.

Like if I'm an election judge, maybe I would just be like, just give me your ID so I can look it up. You know what I mean? Instead of like, people are going to be like, my name is unpronounceable gibberish.

You'd be like, oh, I got to spell that. Sure. But I'm not going to give it to them. Oh, I wouldn't either. Yeah. I'm right there with you. I just wonder if it's nefarious or if it's practical.

No, I don't think it was nefarious at all. I think it was totally practical. But again, you're not allowed to ask for it. You know what I mean? Because like, here's the thing. There's no,

nobody in Chicago, you know, even a city with this kind of shitty reputation that we have nobody in chicago is voting for dead people nobody in chicago's like that you should have saw the bullshit that went through last time i went to the polling place um it was for the primary it was for the primary here in illinois the gubernatorial primary this one guy came in and he walked in and he said look i'm at my new place i don't think i got my card changed but i know that this is my polling place and they spent 25 minutes with that guy the whole time i was in

line trying to work with him to try to figure out if he was in these or not in these or whatever if it was so fucking easy to just vote to just do that right these these polling places wouldn't spend 25 minutes with you. They would just wave their hand and be like, fine, whatever. You know, we're a Democratic area. They're blaming the Democrats. We're a very Democratic,

heavily Democratic district. Sure. They would just wave their hand and be like, fine, this guy's probably going to vote Democrat anyway. Here's your ballot. Go vote. Right.

But instead, they spent 25 minutes with this guy trying to figure out whether this was his polling place or another place was his polling place. They're on phone they're double checking records they're on a fucking computer he spent his entire morning there my entire time i was waiting in line which was not insignificant i were it's a busy polling place that's just one guy coming in with the wrong with the wrong fucking polling place how do you think this works man well they don't they

they don't have any idea They don't have any idea. Do you know what I bet? I bet that this plays really well to people that don't vote. Yeah. Because most people don't vote. Most people don't vote consistently. So, you know, my guess is that this narrative plays really well

in the minds of people that don't fucking vote. Yeah, sure. Because if you vote, you're like, that's not possible. And then that's it. I'm sure that there's some people that don't fucking vote. Yeah, sure. Because if you vote, you're like, oh, that's not possible. And then that's it. You know, I'm sure that there's some people that can get through the cracks, right? I'm sure there's one or two people that will, you know, they'll have a, you know, you know, maybe they'll still say something. There was somebody who wound up getting caught for it. And, you know, they were trying to vote for Trump.

They got caught for it. But there's a couple other people that I'm sure there's some that get through the cracks. I'm not saying it's impossible to do, but it just feels like it's a federal crime. It's a lot of shit to just fucking vote a different thing. You know what I mean? Like just to vote one more extra time, a few extra ballots. It feels like a lot of work to do. Just minimal impact.

Very minimal impact. Right. Especially in a place like Chicago or whatever. Like it doesn't mean in fucking Idaho. Yeah. Maybe it might mean something because there's only seven fucking people that are going to vote.

Well, it's like, look at the last presidential election. According to this narrative, there's like 3 million rigged votes. Trump lost by 3 million votes. And they went through all this effort and all this work and all this logistics to get that done,

but they didn't put them in Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Right? Yeah. That's crazy. It's fucking crazy. Because all you need to do is put all, like, one and a half million in Florida, one and a half million in Pennsylvania.

It's done. The thing's over. It's done. Right. Okay, I agree. We shouldn't cheat, but we need to start prosecuting these people that are caught cheating. Yeah, and we need to restore the rule of law. Let's find some.

Let's find a few. Yeah, sure. Because we keep finding them and they're on your side. I'm totally down. I'm down with this country. That's why I'm the only one. I'll be honest, though. I've I've I've just cut them off.

He cuts that Weasley little shit. Oh, my God. I thought about because the conservatives started cheating. We'd be much better than Democrats. And I just I mean, in a certain level, man, I think about cheating because they're cheating. And I'm not going to cheat. I'm being honest here, but I think about it. Not going to cheat.

I will, however, lie. Yeah. Make shit up. I will make up every single story on my fucking channel. I won't cheat. That would be wrong. Also, I sell some supplements full of lead on my website. It's true.

also I sell some supplements full of lead on my website it's true in this video I'm not going to go into too much detail because it's so disgusting but in this video they caught off a child's face

as a child's alive and I'm just going to leave it at that this story is also from right wing watch Liz Croken will soon see more than 20 000 people arrested for the rape torture and sacrifice of children so uh this is kitchen confidential or whatever her show is called Oh, here she is. You know, just recently, Avicii, the DJ, he just died under mysterious circumstances. He was exposing this. He was exposing elite pedophile rings in his videos. Okay, so let's expose them.

If they're being exposed, if he is exposing, where is the expose, for example? It seems like an easy, it's so funny, they're exposing it, where's the evidence? Well, it's not available to see, hear, touch, smell. It doesn't exist yet, per se. Everybody who dies, too,

could be one of these people. You can easily just attribute their death to anything like this. As long as it's untimely, you could say, oh, well, it's not, you know, if fucking George Soros dies, you're not going to attribute it to that. But if, you know, somebody,

somebody especially famous. George Soros will never die. He has the life extension technology. That's right. He's a Nazi. How was he doing that? He did a video where he was depicting a politician who was buying children to be sex slaves. Chester Bennington.

Wait, hold on. That's it? And then he was killed for that? That's it. They killed him for play acting something that is not happening. That's it. So you kill him for that. Why do you wait until he's got some evidence?

Like if he had evidence, he would have to present. I mean, wouldn't, wouldn't it be better to be like, holy shit evidence. Why make a video of something that's, you know, fictional or whatever,

instead of just being like, Hey, here's my newest song. By the way, here's the leader of China fucking a kid or whatever. You know what I mean? Like, like,

yeah, if you get the evidence, do the evidence thing. Right. But they, because it's fucking, this is, this is kitchen conspiracy.

Yeah, man. Yeah. And Chris Cornell, Mobb Deep, right before Mobb Deep died an untimely death. He tweeted an article talking about how there are elites who are raping and eating babies. Exactly what Kelly Osbourne said. eating babies. Exactly what Kelly Osbourne said, you know, Chester, Chris, Avicii, Mobb Deep, they all died untimely deaths. They all were exposing elite pedophile rings. They didn't do any of that because if they exposed an elite pedophile ring, other people would know about it. They didn't expose anything. They just, if they said anything or tweeted anything out,

everybody was just like, you're crazy. I know. I love it. It's like, these fucking drug addicts died of drugs a lot. Also, that's evidence of pedophiles. They're like, fucking whatever. What are you fucking talking about? I believe there will be literally thousands of people involved in the rape, torture, and sacrifice

of children. They will be involved? They're not involved yet? They're going to tag them in. They're going to tag them in, Tom. Jesus, I'm so exhausted fucking and raping and killing these kids. Who do I know? Is there any way I can outsource this? Let's do like a pyramid scheme.

Let's start like a fucking Mary Kay of raping and killing kids. Let's even like a pyramid scheme. Let's start like a fucking Mary Kay of raping and killing kids. Let's even get a few people on board, then see if they could get some people on board. Eventually, I will have the entrail Cadillac that I can drive around in. I know what we'll do. We'll use cut-co knives for the sacrifice. Exactly. Sounds

great. Two birds, one stone. Nailed it. You know, the problem with the eating of the babies is just so hard to get a table. You know? For sure. It's just like the waiting list. And you're done so quick, too just so hard to get a table. You know? For sure. It's just like a waiting list. And you're done so quick, too. That's the thing, too. You know what I mean?

You've got to order five or six babies just to get full. Just to get full. It's one of those places where it's like you eat the baby, but then on the way home, you stop and you eat a teenager. Because you're just hungry. Right. Just hungry. I get it.

Yeah, you eat the babies on the half shell. I'm done scooping the head out. Get your chopsticks. Thousands, I mean like over 20,000 people who will be... Jesus, it's going to take fucking forever just to arrest all these people. What I love is that there's a pedophile killer ring out there that's 20,000 people strong and not a single person who's related to them or who slept with one of them or who's married to him or whose second cousin to him has any idea that it's happening. Right. They have no idea that it's happening. Nobody accidentally walked

into somebody else's house where they were fucking hip deep in a kid. What did I do? What, what just happened? You know, like somebody walks in on, you know, like the key, go over to your cousin's house or whatever, and just knock on the door and they come in and they got a kid on their cock.

You know, the president can't bang a porn star without, without the world knowing, right? How many people are, are involved at this point in that little tiny miniature minuscule pointless conspiracy, right? You know, this is 20,000 people

fucking presumably 20,000 kids or fucking one exhausted kid. I don't know. Whose exhaust has been eaten out a lot. Take one down, pass it around. Yeah, no, you're right. There's how many kids? So there's how many people?

How many parents now I've seen a million horror movies One kid always gets away Well, but it's like, it's more than that There's 20,000 people fucking kids So then there's, let's say, 10,000 kids They're sharing them, right? And then each one of those kids has two parents

If that's how parenting works That are now missing a kid So you have 10,000 there. You got 20,000 parents, 10,000 kids, 20,000. This conspiracy involves like 50,000, 60,000 people.

You got to transport these fucking kids. You got to lock them in, I don't know, dog kennels, like whatever. Like you feed them kitty chow. I watched a documentary

the other day on Nova, which I don't know if that's a national thing or not. I know they play it on PBS here. I think that's national. But Nova did an expose on human trafficking, but they didn't focus on human sex trafficking. They focused on human trafficking when it comes to underage workers in the United States.

Like labor trafficking? Yeah. And specifically there was a place in Ohio that they had where these people would um basically live in terrible conditions in these trailers they would ship them here from other countries they would work illegally in these chicken egg places okay shitty hours 12 14 hours a day shitty conditions um the worst most horrible conditions you watch the video of it and it's just awful like a vegan watch this video they would fucking poke their own eyes but you watch this video it's just awful and um

what they do is they make these people work off the money and they never work off the money yeah like an indentured servitude basically indentured servitude which is slavery and so they just make them be a slave for a little while and so they become a slave and then they they actually prosecuted several of the bosses because of this. People knew about it. And they knew about it because they saw these people in these houses stacked like cordwood in these houses. And they're in these trailers in these horrible conditions. And people got reported because of it. And so a Samaritan would see this sort of thing and enough people reported it and it eventually came down.

A bunch of people got arrested. A bunch of people fled the country because the people who were actually doing this stuff to other people were from other countries so you know this sort of quote-unquote conspiracy it's not even really a conspiracy this sort of covert thing that's happening is easily busted by our our police by our system it gets i mean yeah for a while it goes on and it's horrible, but eventually somebody comes forward and is like, holy shit, that's just, you know, it's basically modern day slavery and tons of people go to jail. I've never heard

one single thing and this is the type of thing they talk about that's been going on for years and years and years and years and years. So you're just like, that's because they have underground tunnels at the Playboy Mansion. Yeah, they have an underground tunnel that goes to the next building. It seems like so much work. But yeah, it's funny because you see the real human trafficking that happens.

There's people looking out for that sort of thing. So this idea that it's just like passing underneath everybody's nose is ridiculous. Plus, everybody thinks eating babies is wrong. Nobody's high-fiving after they eat a baby. Right. You're shame-faced when you do that. It's like an ortolan. You put the fucking napkin over your head

just so God doesn't see you eat the ortolan. Charged and convicted. I believe that he, A, he's been targeted because he's exposed stuff about really powerful people that don't want to be exposed. So, you know,

right when his meltdown happened he said jay-z has killers all right and let me tell you i did a huge story a few years ago um with a woman who claimed to be jay-z's mistress and right before we were supposed to do the big tell-all interview she died under shady circumstances all right so i can jay-z sue the fuck out of her i right fuck out of her jay-z because she's she's basically saying there's you murder it's not a conspiracy you know there's like it's not you know it's definitely conspiracy you're you're a murderer right so you should sue the fuck out of her can talk all day long about how shady jay-z is he have to be shady? That seems a little racist.

I'm just saying. Is he also slim? Yeah. Different guy. Different guy. White. Kanye West is absolutely right about Jay-Z being very, very shady. Okay?

So that's number one. But let me tell you, his meltdown happened right after he got on stage and said that. Kanye West, you know, say what you want to say about him, but he has exposed a lot of dark truths. Like, why has it got to be a dark truth? Jesus, lady. Yeah, name literally one. Yeah. Name one dark truth.

Just seriously, I love that the total lack of all examples when they do this stuff. Right. It's like, I'll tell you, Kanye West all examples when they do this stuff. Right. It's like, I'll tell you, Kanye West, say what you want about him. Say what you will. But he can fly. He is. Like, nobody's seen him do it. I know what you mean.

And nobody has any video of it. I was a gossip columnist for a long time, and I know you're right that he can fly. He can fly. I heard that. He can levitate. He can fly just a little. The other part of this is that he believes he can fly. And that is...

He can levitate. He can fly just a little. That's part of this is that he believes he can fly. And that is... Are going on in the entertainment and the music industry. I personally believe, and by the way, I've known him for many years. We're both from Chicago. I ran the gossip column in Chicago for seven years. I've been friendly with him.

I've been at events with him. And one of my very, very close friends is very, very close with him. I got a friend who has a friend that's a black guy. One time I was in Niagara Falls and I totally banged a girl. You wouldn't know her, Liz, but she's there. I love that her story about her friend that's a black guy is a friend that has a friend that's a black guy. Like she's so white. She doesn't have any black friends, but she has friends that have black friends.

And that like totally makes me not racist. It does actually makes me black. I ordered the dark caramel Frappuccino. So I am not racist. His family. Now, when he was taken against his will to the psych ward, my,

because it was crazy. That's why you could take it against your will to a psych ward. Because he was crazy. That's why you could take it against your will to a psych ward. Jesus Christ. It's like the Occam razor couldn't be slashing your throat anymore at that point. You know what we should believe? The guy who was involuntarily committed for being crazy.

It's probably not the case that the next thing he says will be crazy. Friend's friend who's related to Kanye was there. What? My friend is very close with him and his family. Now, when he was taken against his will to the psych ward, my good friend's friend who's related to Kanye was there and he was with Kanye. And he said that he believed that he was drugged. This is some of that fucking serious right now. My friend of a friend, Kevin Bacon was in the

psych ward and he was one of the doctors and he had a dream one time. Ratchet was on Kanye West his entire life. Well, that's basically what he's saying right now. Well, in terms of... The most interesting thing about the whole Kanye situation is that he keeps talking about being out of... I believe it's the sunken place. The movie Get Out talks about a wealthy family that was mind-controlling black people.

Okay? Kanye keeps making references to that movie. And in that movie, I haven't seen the movie. What the fucking shit? The fucking what? Holy God. You're just like, okay, well, what Kanye is doing is he's making references to a movie about crazy people. Okay.

So fucking what? What does that mean you have you can't even be bothered to see the fucking movie of the thing that you're referring to the fuck it's two hours out of your day liz it's two hours out of your day it's an academy award winner but here are the things i believe about it are you fucking kidding me director himself i've shared this article on my twitter page the director himself has talked about what the sunken place is, and that's the place you go to when you are under mind control.

So, by Kanye saying I am out of the sunken place, Kim Kardashian also tweeted he is no longer in the sunken place. They're basically saying he's no longer under mind control. Maybe that's a metaphor. Also possible, people sometimes use metaphors. Maybe he's not talking about actual mind control because maybe that's a metaphor also possible people sometimes use

metaphors maybe he's not talking about actual mind control but let's assume maybe that he is talking about mind control this is a man who was involuntarily committed to a psych ward recently it's entirely possible that he's something of a fucking unreliable narrator on this subject it's like well he said he was being mind-controlled and we should listen to him. The definition of what The Sunken Place is by the man who created this movie or directed it, it's when you're in a state of mind control.

Oh my God, it's a fucking movie. 12 Monkeys isn't real either. You know, like, there's a lot. You can make a fucking movie about anything. Are you fucking kidding me right now? You have him and Kim Kardashian both affirming that he was under mind control. And this is very common in Hollywood. And this is very widespread in Hollywood.

Like, how would you know? It's just saying stuff, man. It's just saying stuff, man. It's just saying stuff. And like you said, you're just picking the most unreliable person to ask them what they think about something. Okay, Kanye West is unhinged. Great story. Let's not look to him as somebody who's going to tell us anything that's true then. Oh, my God. You know, I have, and I won't name anybody, but I have experience with people in my life that have had severe mental health issues.

And when they are in and around a significant psychotic break or psychotic moment or episode or something that lasts as long, they put a lot of pieces together that do not fit together. Yeah. Right? They are not at that point a person you rely upon

to give you the straight and narrow. You want answers? I think I'm entitled. You want answers? I want the truth. You can't handle the truth. This is fucking nuts, man. I'm sorry. I know I keep saying it today, but it's like these stories are some bizarro world shit. This Washington Post, Trump makes it explicit. Negative coverage of him is fake coverage. Cecil and I were talking before the show, and it's like if I said, like, Cecil had a property on Main Street foreclosed. That's just like it's not true, right?

It's fake. But that's just a fact, right? So it's either true or it's not true. It's negative to say something like that would be construed often as negative, right? But that doesn't change the truth of something. The truth, whether something is negative or positive, has no relationship with the truth. But like, this is now a point. I saw something else today that said that Trump is considering reneging the licenses for, quote, fake news because they're fake news outlets, like basically branding them

as bullshit news. It's not bullshit news. It's not bullshit news. It's just anything he doesn't like. Yeah. We're now labeling as fake and there are people, and we've seen this too. We've, we've, we've read stories recently where there are people who they don't understand the difference on the ground. Sure.

So if the story from the top is negative news is now untrue and the story on the bottom is we don't know the difference between true and negative or, or fake and negative. is negative news is now untrue. And the story on the bottom is we don't know the difference between true and negative or fake and negative. And we're using you as a source to tell us what's what. We are fucked.

We're just straight fucked. I would think that he wouldn't say that fake is negative because I'm sure that that guy has had a lot of things faked. And I feel like he would think that they would be the best. That's the only positive feedback he gets. I'll tell that that guy has had a lot of things faked. And I feel like he would think that they would be the best. That's the only positive feedback he gets.

I'll tell you that much. He would think. But it is crazy that he's I mean, he has explicitly said it. Tom, there's a tweet here. Why don't you read his tweet? The fake news is working overtime. Just reported that despite the tremendous success we're having with the economy and all things else,

91% of the network news about me is negative. Fake. Why do we work so hard in working with the media when it is corrupt? Take away credentials? Yeah. Un-fucking-believable. Yeah, I mean, you're talking about, he's saying negative fake. Yeah. No, it's not.

And I understand what he's trying to say. What he's trying to say is, you know, it is, you know, it's, you know, it's fake, but it's negative. And that's a lie. Cause it's all the news coming off about me as positive.

I think that's what he's trying to get at. I think, I think his, like his analogy, an analogy of this tweet would probably be something like I had nothing but home runs and you report nothing but base hits. Yeah. You know?

And, and so it's fake, right? Because it's like, it's not reflective of the reality of the job that I'm doing. I don't know if he can possibly believe that. I don't know if he could articulate that to be honest. I'm not sure he could either.

He would interrupt himself seven times in the middle of that analogy. It would be about golf. And then he would eat a sandwich. Did you hear that? I had heard now. I don't know where I read it. I, it might've been the post.

I'm not sure, but they were saying that they did a test run of Mueller's questions with him and he only got through two and it took two hours to get through two questions. Oh my God, what? Yeah, so they're like trying,

I think that they're trying to They're trying to prep him? They're trying to prep him and he can't get through. Great strategy. I'll tell you what though, he is going to get hammered if they make him sit down and talk.

He is going to get hammered. You think so? Well, there's no good way out of this for him now. If he chooses the Fifth Amendment, you know, if he chooses to... He's been vocal about how that's a coward's choice. Yeah, he's been said many times, many times. So if he chooses that, if he goes that way,

you know, I don't think he cares about being a hypocrite, but everybody around him will point out, you know, hey, you're being a hypocrite. I'm sure even people that are on his side will be like, that's a hypocrisy. So he can't get out that way, I don't think. And then they tried to get it

so that they can write stuff down, but they said no. He wanted to write. Yeah, so someone else could do his homework. He wanted to write. That's why. So somebody else

could do his homework. Well, it's going to be, I am sure that either that he's going to get called and refuse or he's going to get called and go. And that's going to be. I am sure that either that he's going to get called and refuse or he's going to get called and go. And that's going to be. But, you know, the best, the best strategy would be to have a take hours and just be unintelligible.

And I think he could nail that. And I actually mean that like strategically nail that, like not even accidentally. strategically nail that. Not even accidentally. I think if you have a normal person and you ask them questions and they answer the questions and those answers relate in some way to the question,

they're going to get screwed if they've done something wrong. I think if you take somebody like Trump and you ask him questions and he just wildly gesticulates and pontificates over a number of various and wide-ranging subjects, none of which relate to the question, until everybody just starts to get bored and fall asleep. I think that he's going to get caught. I don't think he's smart enough to not incriminate himself.

I think he will incriminate himself. It would be amazing if he did. I think he will. It would be great if he did. I think he will. I think he's already incriminated himself. It would be amazing if he did. I think he will. It would be great if he did. I think he will. I think he's already been, I think he's already incriminated himself a couple times

in stupid ways. And I think he will continue to do so. And I mean, I don't think, I don't think Giuliani is stupid enough to incriminate him already.

Giuliani already did. Yeah. And I love the thing that we did with Fox and Friends where like, he went on Fox and Friends, I don't remember what it was that he said,

but immediately like, Stormy Daniels' attorney was like, thanks for saying that, dummy. And it immediately found its way into the prosecution's playlist. I feel like

there was somebody who said it a while back, and I think it's true, I think Trump didn't want to win. I think what he wanted was the publicity from it. I think he wanted to be publicly a figure. And I think losing wanted to be publicly, you know, a figure to get, and I think losing would have been amazing for him.

I think it would have been everything he ever dreamed of. He could have constantly been a curmudgeon on Twitter. He could have been completely attacking everything that was wrong. I think he could have gotten even more following on Twitter

and all throughout all the stuff he's done as the underdog, you know, that has lost. I think he could have, I think he, I think he wanted to lose. Yeah. I don't disagree.

I think he wanted to lose and I think he wanted, and I think, I think he was making deals knowing that he was going to lose and then having, you know, good ties to the Russians afterwards. I think he was going to be fine with that. And now, now he's in the presidency and he's got great ties

to the Russians and that's not a good thing to have. So I think that there's a, it's, I think, you know, like this is one of those things that, you know, it's going to take time to unravel, but he's not,

he is not smart enough, I think, to get around this questioning and to avoid this questioning enough to not incriminate himself. I just think he won't subject himself to the questioning. Yeah.

I think you're probably right. I think that's ultimately what's going to happen. He'll never answer these questions. That's the only way it's going to play out. In this story here from Bloomberg, it leads right into this. The money that flowed to Michael Cohen, where did it go? And it's really interesting because some of this money

that's coming in to Michael Cohen, this money is basically being paid to Michael Cohen for access to Trump in some ways. Right. And it's Russian money. Yeah. Well, some of it is. Some of it, at least I read two stories today, one $500,000, one a million dollars that came from shell companies, which are controlled by Russian oligarchs. Yeah. Like, I mean, we're like, we're in a place where the ties, the connections between Russia and the election, whether it's Russia and Trump himself, but Russia and the election are literally undeniable. It's like this guy was running for the governorship in Illinois.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, like, like we, we have the most shady, crooked system here in Illinois. Yeah. Like, like, like we, we have the most shady crooked system here in Illinois. And, you know, you can hear the tapes of Blagojevich talking about how he's going to try to sell. I got this great thing. I'm not just giving it away for free. I'm going to sell Barack Obama's seat to somebody. It almost feels like he thought that that was how it worked. Oh, I think it doesn't work like that. Right. It doesn't work. And it doesn't work like that because Blagojevich will send you a letter from his prison cell telling you how it doesn't work like that. Right, right. It doesn't work. And it doesn't work like that because Blagojevich will send you a letter from his prison cell

telling you how it doesn't work like that. It doesn't work like that because you get caught when that happens. You know, the reason why you don't sell access to you for $500,000, access to your agenda and things like that for $500,000 is because someone's going to follow the money eventually. Somebody's going to follow the money and it's going to catch up to you. You know, I want to hear the people who say that Rush, there's nothing to do with Russia. There's a bunch of people who were tweeting at us for a long time about how Russia is a big boogeyman. Tell me how $500,000 with direct ties linked to him that goes to Cohen doesn't have like that. There's nothing. I'm not,

I'm not, I'm not a conspiracy theorist here. There's explain to me how that's a nothing. I'm interested to know how that's a hand wave. Nothing. Because I know there's a lot of people on Twitter that were saying it was a big conspiracy. There's nothing going on with Russia. Well, what about this? You know, what about the $500,000? There's so many angles that Russia connects to this. Yeah. Right. There's just so many angles. Russia has connections with how many of his campaign staff at this point that we know of. Russia has connections

with his son. Russia has connections. There are connections across the fucking board and on almost every level where Russia's clearly attempting to rig our electoral process and influence our candidates. And let's not call it a witch hunt or anything like that, because there's been 23 indictments. This is not like this is not like something you could just be

like, oh, you know, there's what's what's the big deal? There's nothing going on. There's no collusion, whatever. There's been 23 people indicted. So let's not talk about it like there's nothing happening, like this is all just made up. It's not just made up. These people have had inappropriate relationships. They've lied to the FBI. When you lie to the FBI, you don't lie to them about your chili recipe. You lie to them about something important that they ask you and you lie.

You lie because you don't want to be in deeper trouble. That's why you lie. So this bullshit about like hand waving it away like there's nothing to do here and saying, you know, witch hunts and stuff. No, that's bullshit that I saw a meme this week that said like during Hillary, during the Benghazi thing, it was like a 24 month investigation.

No indictments. This has been going on for 14 months. There's 23 indictments. Yeah. And it's still ongoing. So we want to thank our patrons, our most recent patrons, and we'll do that all next week. You will not be forgotten.

Trust us. And we will have it on next week's show. We will want to thank all the patrons for making sure that this show is possible. So thank you all very much. Thank you. We got an interesting message from Jeff, and Jeff said he was listening to us talk about the Second Amendment. And he says that we really shouldn't be talking about what the founding fathers would have thought about

the Second Amendment, because that has that sort of constitutional originalism stuff that not a lot of people really do. Scalia was one and Gorsh is one, but there's, that's really something that we shouldn't be, we shouldn't be talking about it because it's kind of a nonsense way to think. Yeah. I think that's an interesting way to,

to, to approach this. Like who cares if we frame the argument in their frame, you know, we're always stuck working with it. We're always doing it. Yeah. And we've talked about,

you know, we're not, we're not, we don't, we don't blow the founding fathers. The founding fathers made a mistake, we should change it. Absolutely. That's a great point, Jeff.

Got a message. This is from Damon. Damon wanted us to know that the David Hogg message, we were talking about last week when a bunch of the nutjobs had said that David Hogg was going to go to school. He wasn't there and he was actually going to go to school. Then they called him a crisis actor. He said he wasn't even there, but then they said he was going to go to school while there was shooting

going on. He wasn't actually at school. There was a quote about him going after the school had been after this, after he had been let home and all the shooting was over because all the reporters were there. He was going to go back up there. And there's a quote about him going back to school that day. And people have taken it out of context. That's an interesting position. I know for sure that he was there, though. So like what I know is that he had he has he did audio, I think, or even video interviews during the lockdown. Right. So he was physically locked down in the building. Couple people sent in Philly Steak stuff. A person by the name of Kamar and Elvis both sent in messages basically saying, look, those two places that you went to, Tom, they're the two places are the biggest places, but they're also the worst. And I understand. I do understand this because the biggest places very often just ride on reputation. There's a couple of really old pizza places in Chicago that ride only on reputation. It's not very good pizza. So I recognize that that's the case. In fact, probably

the most famous beef joint in Chicago probably has one of the worst beef sandwiches. Al's? Yeah, Al's. Al's is disgusting. It's unpleasant. It's an unpleasant beef sandwich. So I would say I recognize that if somebody were to come to Chicago and they said Al's number one beef and they had it and they're like, this is fucking garbage. I would be like, yeah, no, it's garbage. So I recognize that a lot of people said that you should go to the trucks, I guess some food trucks that are there and they make really good cheese steaks or the smaller areas. I guess they're smaller ones. So Jim steaks, nifty fifties is another one. I would go to a homeless guy shaving the skin off a rat before I would go back to the place that I had my cheese steak.

I don't blame you. I don't blame you. I think that a lot of times, though, places will suffer with reputation. I will. If I ever go to Philly, I hope I don't ever go there. But if I do ever go there, I will try one of their cheese steaks at a place like they suggest. I would, too. What I will try one of their cheesesteaks at a place like they suggest. I would, too.

What I will do is I'll actually ask the listeners. I'll be like, tell me where to go. If I'm ever unfortunate enough to be in that city, I will definitely. I will say, I was told that Philadelphia, not the area that I was in, the area that I was in was clearly carpet bombed at some point in recent history. But there are parts of Philadelphia, which I'm to understand are very, very nice. Like where the Liberty Bell is, period. Also the end. And where they have the statue of Rocky Balboa.

That's it. Yeah. That's it. I will say the place that I was at was one of the worst places in all of the world. We got a message from Krissa and Krissa said that we helped her through some very

difficult times. So I want to say, Krissa, thank you for listening and thanks for the message. It was really a great message to get this week. Oh my gosh, Tom. Adrian from France was in one of the concert halls during the Paris attack

and had to deal with people saying that there were crisis actors. Right. This is somebody who survived a, just an absolutely horrific event.

And not only has to deal with the memories of that event, the actuality of having survived it, but then is to be like we talked about before. Has to be fucking

re-traumatized by assholes. Absolutely, yeah. Sorry that happens. We have a fucking political agenda. Sorry that happens, Adrian. So bad. The stuff you went through is difficult, so that sucks.

Tom, this is very interesting. We got a message from Cam, and Cam sent along this video of the Hunchback of Notre Dame. Yeah. That's kind of an insult video. It totally is. It totally is.

There's a relatively well-known song from the Hunchback of Notre Dame Disney movie, which I, we were talking about this before the show. I remember this from when I was in high school. I remember being blown away by this in high school and it never, I've actually shown this to other people in the intervening years between then and now, because I've always remembered it. And it is this just crazy video about this priest who's driven mad by lust.

And that madness drives this person to villainy as a result of their inability to control their sexual urges. It's fucking crazy that it's in a Disney movie. It's crazy. What I mentioned to Tom was, it's crazy that the religious guy is Disney movie. It's crazy. What I mentioned to Tom was, it's crazy that the religious guy is clearly the villain in this. Right.

And that religious thoughts about celibacy and lust are thrown out the window in a Disney movie. Right. Well, they're the driving force that causes his villainy. Which show that they are evil.

That they're evil. Yeah. Which is really interesting. I was saying to Tom, that's very interesting that this would be in a child's movie. You know, we were talking too, it's like, why wasn't this protested? Yeah. By the religious? Because this paints your whole ideas, your whole

thought structure in a really negative light. Like, you would think the Catholic Church would be like, that movie's fucked. I'm surprised it got past the censors, the rating people who did this, because the rating people are all religious. It's true. You think they'd give it a higher rating, I mean? They would give it a, yeah, they would say a PG-13, or they would say, because

that's all they can do. They can't censor something. They always rate stuff that's sexual and content at a much higher rating than they do violence, and this in particular is talking about sex. Maybe they might give it a PJ 13 instead of a 12, but they might also have to prove that it's, you know, it showed a titty. So it's 13. Yeah. Right. They might have some metric that it's like, but anyway, we'll put this video on this week's show notes. Check it out.

If you've never seen this, this song, uh, it's from a Disney movie, the hunchback of Notre Dame. We saw, okay. So Katie sent this in. This is a wood shop that does little signs, engraved signs, and their signs are fucking hilarious. We're going to post the link on this week's show notes. It's somebody's Etsy store. I love this so much.

We're going to get one for the studio that just says, Abort Everyone. We're going to get one. We're going to see if we can custom make a glory hole one. But this is hilarious they have one that says hail satan so the reason why somebody sent this in is because we were saying the eat pray love thing right that you find it like uh you know all the different places where they're like love laugh pray blah blah blah this is awesome because it's just like some of these are just amazing one says live laugh hail satan and i fucking think it's amazing.

I like the one that says some inspirational bullshit. It's just fucking amazing. I love it. Super hilarious. I want to own that. We're going to post a link on this week's show notes. If you want to be a patron of the store, I know we're going to buy a couple of signs from them this week.

We got a message from someone who actually was for a little while an insult. And then they stopped being one. Because someone was so nice to them, a woman was so nice to them, that they stopped being an insult. And I want to say, like, I know on the last episode I said I doubted that anybody would be a part of that community and then see the light, so clearly I'm mistaken.

So I'll own that and say, hey, I'm glad you no longer subscribe to that horrifying, horrifying worldview. That misog that horrifying, horrifying worldview. Yeah, that misogynist, shitty worldview. Yeah. We got a message from Travis, and Travis wanted to know our thoughts on they are in the camp that people should be pro-choice in their states if they want to be. They leave it up to the states, basically, is what they say.

And where we sort of sit on it, I feel like I'm always going to side with the people who are living on the margins who want to try to get, you know, something like this done. If you make it illegal in say Texas and you're in the middle of Texas, you have like a, you know, a six and a half hour drive to get out of Texas in any direction.

Right. I mean like it's, it doesn't matter where you live and you could live at the bottom of Texas too. That's something we didn't pay attention to. You live at the bottom of Texas. It could be a seven or eight hours to get out of Texas in a car. Right.

And some people don't have cars. They, I know, I will tell you this when my parents and my family was, you know, very, very destitute and poor. We did not have cars.

We thought we could make it to Chicago in, and we live 30 miles outside of Chicago. We had cars. We did not take to Chicago because we were afraid they would Chicago in. And we live 30 miles outside of Chicago. We had cars we did not take to Chicago because we were afraid they would break down. So when you are poor, travel is not an easy thing to do. It's not like you could just be like, yep, I'm going to go somewhere else for a little while and just do it. Right. I want to point out that Travis's primary point is to say, hey, look, this is abortion is a single issue stopping point that, you know, if we give up on this topic, let the states have

it, then we can pass other legislation that, you know, we may have a better shot at some bigger issues. I don't like that train of thought. I don't think you give up on things that are important just because there are other things that are also important. I understand that idea. It's a very utilitarian sort of like, hey, you got to give a little to get a little sort of idea. But I just, I agree with you, Cecil, on that.

It's easy for me to say I'll never need a fucking abortion. Yeah. You know, it's real easy for me to say I will never get pregnant with a baby I don't want and be forced to, you know, birth and raise it. Yeah.

So like I side to the, I side on the point, like I have no moral quandary with, with abortion. I think the moral issues raised around abortion, particularly in the first trimester are bullshit issues. They're all about sex anyway. And they're never going to, they're never going to be my problem. Yeah. So like, I got nothing to say except for, Hey, you want it, go get it. Yeah.

And, and I think that we can, you know, there's going to always be these attacks to it. There's always going to be somebody who's going to want to keep attacking it. And it's, and the reason why we keep, you know, the reason why we have a Supreme court is so that we can overturn things that we think are, you know, unfair or keep things in place that we, that we, that we deem fair. And so far since 1973, I think it is, it's been deemed as fair. It's been deemed as something that's been... We're going to go back to this back alley shit otherwise, man.

And they don't, they won't, they won't say that, but you know that's what happens. It's been shown many, many times that the most, the places in the world that have the most

lax conditions on abortion have the least amount of abortions. Right. Because those are the places in the world that has... The less restrictions, the more... They also have less...

Progressive policies and so on. Yeah, and they have less social problems with sex. Right. So, got a message from Josh and Josh said that, what would you think about...

And I talked about people who campaign across, you know, different states. Why would you want your guy to come to your state? He said, what if they just never left their little compound, like their little HQ, their campaign HQ, and they just did

stuff from there every day. You'd think that's kind of weird. And I, I admit, I might think that's kind of weird. So I recognize, I understand that. Um, and they got to go somewhere, you know, you got to go somewhere and, you know, they want to show that they have, I think the other reason is, is that they want to show that there are people in every state that are following them. So they want to have a big crowd at that place. So they want to go to that place, have a bunch of people there to say this,

that, you know, it's not just one person who likes me. It's a bunch of people who like me. So there's a psychology to it. It's like a big show. So, so thanks for your message.

I recognize that, uh, that I might be weird and just be like, well, just fucking stay where you're at work from from home, for Christ's sakes. Stop running around all over the place. But great news, Tom. We wound up getting a message from Aaron from the Waiting for Wrath podcast.

They had an event goal. The WyomingAIDS.org, W-Y-O-AIDS.org raised $28,110.80 at their drag queen bingo. They wound up raising a shit ton of money, $28,000 in one sitting. They were actually able to low ball estimation, credit us with $1,600, raising $1,600 with them just by mentioning on our show. So we want to thank everybody who donated from the show.

Again, so generous. Our listeners, time and time again, so generous. We're so glad to have you on our side. Yeah, and you can still donate. So if you want to go to wyoades.org, you can donate to people in Wyoming that use that fund

to help them with really basic costs. Shit like helping pay their deductible and travel costs and things like that. Right, gas, utilities. So this is going to help people who are on the margins who can't afford this stuff. This is a great charity. We want to thank them for coming on. We had a great time talking to them. We look forward to talking to them again in the future.

And if you haven't checked out Waiting for Wrath, you should. It's Waiting the Number for Wrath. You should be able to find them on any podcatcher. Well, we were on a show earlier today. I mentioned it earlier. We were on Hope After Dark. We're going to put a link on this week's show notes. You can listen to it.

We had a great time. We talked a little bit. One of the major things we talked about was comedy and it doesn't go too far. And then we went too far many, many times. And so if you want to check it out, Bobby Carey, Jerry DeWitt, Angie, and Ashley

all are on that podcast. Great fun. We had a great time. That was a lot of fun. Good people. So we'll put a link on this week's show notes if you want to check it out. We were very happy that they invited us on. That's going to wrap it up for this week. We don't have any special things coming up very soon, but we will be back next week,

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