Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 417: Once Unspoken

Episode Date: June 4, 2018

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This episode of Cognitive Dissonance is brought to you by our patrons. You fucking rock. Glory hole, guys. This is Joe from Leadwater, Indiana. Yeah, I was listening to episode 411 with Noah, and it was hot out, so I had the windows down, and I pulled up at a stoplight right next to a cop right when you were talking about Hillary Clinton having sex with dead babies. The cop followed me for about four or five blocks. Right next to a cop, right when you were talking about Hillary Clinton having sex with dead babies.

The cop followed me for about four or five blocks. I'm sure he ran my plate, and I'm probably on a list somewhere. So thanks, guys. Hey, Cecil. Hey, Tom. This is Nathan from New Mexico. I looked into your last episode about the Pat Robertson and his questions on air and one of them struck me because it happened to me

it was the one girl saying she didn't feel loved that happened to me as a fifth grader our fifth grade teacher at a private school told us that we needed to accept Jesus and I did and I never felt anything and it scared me for months and months probably even years

and I would lose sleep over it I would have nightmares and it scared me for months and months, probably even years. And I could, I would lose sleep over it. I would have nightmares and it's crazy. And I just thought it was interesting how people even older have that problem and how it's damaging. So anyway, great show. Thanks for having us guys and keep up the good work. Glory hole. So, you know how you guys occasionally have the intro where they have the guy talking about carrying 75 pounds of feed across the desert?

Well, I've realized something about that. At one point, I held a bunch of nugs that we had to put together with a quarter pound. And back in steel, there would probably be about a half liter displacement. So, 75 pounds would be about 300 liters, which is about 40 gallons. Typical hiking backpack, i.e. a fucking massive one, is about 75 liters. So two of those pull a vacuum pack speed. So, you know, have them hit me up. Glory hole. Hey, Cecil and Tom. Hey, I really love the title to your episode 416. But apparently the candiru fish, I think that's how they say it,

is, you know, the one that swims up the urethra, is apparently kind of spurious about, like, whether it does actually swim up your urethra or not. Anyway, I was just thinking, though, that whenever women get it, it could also be the deadliest snatch. Glorious. Bye.

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I'm not sure... We were supposed to have the Satanists on last week. They should have been on this week. Right, they'd feel at home. They would feel at home. Next time we come recording, I'm bringing my pitchfork just so I can fit in with the locals.

I'll tell you. Leave it the satanists to be flaky too we got all caught up killing babies or whatever we were building a Baphomet statue it's funny because they carved it out of butter was a butter carving a Baphomet it melts right away

you could do ice or butter in here and it would still melt before you could do a wood carving in here and it would melt oh it's super unpleasant you could smell iron just by having iron i'm just saying folks we suffer for you this is it my my intro is misery related right now. Also, on the show later, Riss McCool wrote a new book, so check it out later on. We're going to have Riss on to talk about... Called Once Unspoken.

She'll speak about it a little later. She's going to unspokenly speak about her brand new book. Trumpy, you can do stupid things. All right, so this story comes from CNN Politics. Donald Trump just put the me in his Memorial Day tweet. This tweet, we got to start out just by reading the tweet. For anyone who's not from America, Memorial Day is where it's our national let's feel sad about dead soldiers day. Absolutely.

Veterans Day is the day we give high fives to vets. Veterans Day for the ones that are still alive. Yeah. Hand jobs for the living. Yeah. Tears for the default. But we have this thing where we want to talk aboutjobs for the living. Yeah. Tears for the default. But we have this thing where we want to talk

about the troops all the time, so Memorial Day is a perfect opportunity for them to do that. Right. Well, and Donald Trump really seized upon the opportunity to remember our fallen troops. To thank the troops. And to thank them. Okay. So here's what he said. Happy Memorial Day! Ho! Ho!

Ho! Happy Memorial Day. Ho, ho, ho. Happy Memorial Day, little ones. There's just like a fat soldier with a gunny sack full of bullets. I brought you a bullet. You'll need to dig it out of your tummy. And you get dysentery. And you get dysentery. Ho, ho, ho.

You've been good. You get gangrene. Open your stocking. There's a grenade. It's like IEDs under the tree. Happy Memorial day. Those who died for our great country would be very happy and proud at how well our country is doing today. Best economy in decades,

lowest unemployment numbers for blacks and Hispanics ever all caps and women in 18 years in decades. Lowest unemployment numbers for blacks and Hispanics ever. All caps. And women in 18 years. In parentheses, like women belong. Women are just a parenthetical reference. Separate but equal, Tom. Separate but parenthetical. Rebuilding our military and so much more. Nice.

I don't know if you remember that really dramatic scene in Saving Private Ryan where Tom Hanks is dying. Right. He's got shot. You know, he's trying to save that guy and he leans up

and he says, tell my wife that I died for best unemployment for blacks in his business ever. And then Matt Damon's like, nice.

I don't know if you remember that. It totally happened though. I do. do you know that was an outtake so a lot of people you gotta watch the deleted scenes it's high five a lot of people don't watch all the deleted but it was

this is how we sell this is the president of the United States he's fucking jerking off and coming on the faces. He's like, oh, I'm going to Arlington National Cemetery. I'm going to jerk off on every fucking grave. He's like standing on the crosses, jumping from grave to grave. He like runs over to the guy who's marching and yells at people when they're too loud. He's like, hey, can you take our picture real quick?

He's just like bouncing from the graves of Chim Chiminey, Chim Chiminey, Chim Chim. Why is he doing that? We don't know. You got to love a guy, though. This is a perfect social media president, though. I mean, this is absolutely perfect because he's making something that's not about him,

about him. It's like him taking a selfie at Arlington and being like, oh, all these people died. Pouty, about him. It's like him taking a selfie at Arlington and being like, oh, all these people died. Pouty, sad face. Sad face emoticon. You know, like, you could see him do it because that's essentially,

he's a, I mean, he's a social media, but he's competing for likes. That would even be better than what he wrote. Like something like that. Donald Trump sticking his lip out, taking a selfie at Arlington with a sad face emoticon would be better than what he wrote here,

which is it would be classier, would be classier than what he wrote here, which is instead, guys, I'm really great. Did I tell you how great I am? By the way, I know a bunch of people fell. You know who else fell? Hillary Clinton. i just want to point that out to everybody no collusion no collusion no collusion selfie stick i love the idea that our sitting president is competing for validation through social media likes yeah like that's that's what's happening like i don't know if people love me unless they click on a smiling face or a thumbs up or a hearty sound. Are you fucking kidding me? You got work to do. I see this and I'm not mad

that he's like pissing on a Memorial Day or whatever. I think that Memorial Day does have its place. Maybe we should kill less soldiers. Maybe that's what we should think about on Memorial Day is let's try to avoid soldier deaths by not getting in wars. That might be a wacky, goofy idea to sort of follow.

Hold on. Let me see if I can follow you. So if we love our soldiers so much, maybe we should not create conflict in order to put them in harm's way? To throw them in. Yeah, it might be something to think about. Pin in that for later. Okay. All right.

I'm going to consider that. But, you know, if you're one of these people who really does, you know, love the military so much, I would imagine you on the other side looking at this and thinking this is disgraceful. I feel like this is one of those things, one of those moments, again, that you run into and you're just like, this just is so unpresidential. I know that one of the things that endears him to certain groups of people is that he is sort of cut from a different cloth. But this is so. Come on, man.

It's so tactless. It's just embarrassing. It's embarrassing that it's representing our country. Abortions for all. Very well. No abortions for anyone. Abortions for some miniature American flags for others. This story is from global news.

Irish Catholics worry abortion vote signals weakening influence of church. You know why they worry about that? Because that's what this does. Hey, church, your influence is waning. It has been waning for decades and decades, and it is collapsing upon itself like the bloated pedophile factory

that it is. Did you see this? Ireland voted by roughly two to one margin to end the ban on abortion. Thank your lucky charms. You know what I mean? That was... by roughly two to one margin to end the ban on abortion. Thank your lucky charms. You know what I mean? What? Green clovers and purple diamonds

and red fetuses and yellow coat hangers. Oh, Jesus. And you still got your gold coins you have to pay for. Me gold. welcome to Dublin the whole city's an abortion so this is pretty much what it is

two to one Ireland said hey it'd be nice to be in the 20th century and I didn't misspeak we need to abort some of these orphans, guys. Yeah, right. Look, we have an orphan problem. Oh, we're not taking care of the wee ones anyway. We should just have less of them.

We're just putting them in a pit out back, aren't we? This is the show where no one in Ireland ever listens. We didn't do a live show there or a meet up at all. No. Thank goodness. No. Well, where would we have done one? I just, like now we can't. I would have done one in Belfast. Like Belfast was beautiful.

Belfast was nice. I like Belfast. I don't know if I visited, did we visit other cities? There's Dublin, Belfast is all we did. And then we drove around. Then we drove all over the place, though. Yeah. We drove from one to the other, and we saw the sheep. Giant's Causeway was nice. The Giant's Causeway was extremely beautiful.

With that Japanese guy who was like, hey, grab a car. The best part about visiting the Giant's Causeway is, in the States, they would prevent you from any horseplay. You would not be able to do anything there. You certainly wouldn't. You would probably just, there would be a fence, and you would just be able to look at the giant's cosmos. But there, you could climb on this shit. And so there's these rocks of like irregular heights.

Right. And there's this Japanese guy, or I don't know, an Asian guy, I don't know. And he's stuck on the side. He had tried to climb up one of the parts, and he's just. He's like, I'm here now. Nope, no, this is my life now. And he was stuck on the side. He had tried to climb up one of the parts and he's just like, I'm here now. Nope. No, this is my life. And he was stuck on the side.

I forgot about that guy. Check that guy out. Spider-Man doing what a spider can. Check him out. He's just fucking hanging there. That's where he is now. He's still there. He is.

I know. He's still there to this day. He built himself a little shrine to his ancestors. Now all the wisecracking Irish tour guides all point to him and say something. He's still there. He is. I know. He's still there to this day. He built himself a little shrine to his ancestors. I think his whole thing. Now all the wisecracking Irish tour guides all point to him and say something. Oh, it's our Japanese guy, Ted. He's been there since 16. He fought the big giant who made this thing come to ground.

Well, I respect the move, but the entire thing has been a witch hunt. And there is no collusion between certainly myself and my campaign, but I can always speak for myself and the Russians. This is from the Washington Post. Trump tweets regret for picking Jeff Sessions. Advisors say he's unlikely to fire him. He's got that sweet no regrets tattoo. No regrets. No regrets. Yeah, Trump had sent out a bunch of stuff that was basically because this this guy Gowdy had said some things on television.

And so Trump immediately started tweeting about this. So we're going to go through and we're going to read these. There's it's a it's a it's a three tweet storm. So, all right. Represent this is the tweet. Representative Trey Gowdy, quote, I don't think so. This is the tweet. Representative Trey Gowdy, quote, I don't think so.

I think what the president is doing is expressing frustration that Attorney General Sessions should have shared these reasons for recusal before he took the job, not afterward. If I were the president and I pick someone to be the country's second chief law enforcement officer and they told me later, oh, by the way, I'm not going to be able to participate in the most important case in the office. I'll be frustrated, too. And that's how I read that. Senator Sessions, why do you tell me before I picked you? There are lots of really good lawyers in the country. He could have picked someone else. And then Trump says, and I wish I did. Trump ends the quotes there and says,

I wish I did. One of Trump's central promises was he was going to pick the best people. Yeah. The very best people. I'm going to have the best people. I'm going to surround myself. And then he's like, I fired a lot of these people. I wish I had a different person. I had a different person. Look, you're either good at hiring or you're not. He's proven that he's not.

Right. So like, can we, I mean. It's proven that what gets a position in his cabinet is a sycophant. Right. That's the people who thrive. Somebody with influence that he wants. Somebody who wants to praise him.

Yeah, that's two more, but it's, I mean, you look at a lot, it's like, what the fuck did Rick Perry bring to the table? That guy's just a sycophant. Right.

What did Jeff Sessions bring to the table? What did Betsy DeVos bring to the table? Yeah, nothing. Right. You know, I mean, well, Betsy DeVos

probably bringing a big bunch of money to the Republican Party. But that's, I guess that's what I mean. Like, all of his appointments are appointments that either bolster him through validation,

it seems like, or that bolster him by appealing to a certain base. Right, right. What he doesn't seem to appoint is competent people who are able to do the job that's requested by him.

Right, right. And we know this is true because he keeps firing them. Yeah. He fires people like crazy. And I, you know, like, if you're, if one of your central job responsibilities

is to hire people, and that is one of his central job responsibilities is to hire people. And you can't keep people, your turnover rate through their own natural attrition from leaving on their own or from, from your firing people is this high. You're doing a shitty job at that. Can we at least agree on that? Yeah. That he said he's going to have the best people, the very best people. You won't believe how good his people are going to be.

And then he hires these people and then he's firing them and they're quitting at a fucking incredible number. Way that the very best people include his family. I just, I just, I just don't believe it. Like I just don't believe you. Coincidentally,

the best guy in America for this job is my son. Yeah. The best guy is my son. And I just don't believe you. Like, I just don't think that's true. That's because you're not a credulous dipshit. And so, you know,

that gets thrown out on its ear in the first place. The idea that he's going after Sessions, and he's been going after Sessions for a long time, and he hasn't fired him. You know, he's tried to control this investigation from the very beginning. Tried to get Comey to be on his side with all the, hey, you want to be buddies sort of thing.

Invites him to a White House dinner where it's just the two of them. Sort of a romantic, I get two ice cream scoops and you get one or whatever. Are you going to back me? Yeah, exactly. Do you want to get back behind me? I know. Back that ass up. But yeah, and he fired him because he was not interested in that relationship with him.

You know, he's been talking shit about Sessions since the beginning about this. He's been saying, you know, like you recuse yourself. Well, shit, fire him then. Fucking fire him then. You know what I mean? Like, I wish I did. Well, you can make it so. It's just like, well, but there'd be too much political blowback if I fire the guy I hired.

I don't feel bad for you. Yeah. I don't feel bad for you. Like. I don't feel bad for you. Like, one of your chief responsibilities is doing this. Yeah. Doing it badly

is a cause for you to be embarrassed. Right? And of the things Sessions has done in his life, this is one of the ones that I'm like, I kind of agree with. Yeah, you should. You're supposed to. That's your responsibility.

Because you were part of this. Right. And the only reason you recuse yourself is something like this. Because if you're part of it. Maybe you had the only reason you recuse yourself is something like this. Because if you're part of it. Maybe you had something to do with it. I know someone, yeah. I can't be impartial.

Any information that turned out to be so false and fake, out. I think it's a disgrace. And I say that, and I say that. And that's something that Nazi Germany would have done and did do. I think it's a disgrace. That information that was false and fake and never happened got released to the public.

The story is from the Washington Post, the Health 202. Why Hurricane Maria killed not dozens, but thousands of Puerto Ricans. How do you get it so different? How do you get it so different to dozens to fucking thousands? So the official death toll originally was 64. But a Harvard study, which was published in the New England Journal of Medicine, recently came out, which put the death toll at 4,600 and change. 4,645.

Now, what they're counting is both direct deaths and indirect deaths. And part of the reason that this is so massive is the system for counting people in Puerto Rico was kind of fucking crazy. Like, in order for you to count as a hurricane death, the body had to, like, jump through these fucking weekend at Bernie-style hoops.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Had to hang glide in. And they weren't counting deaths that were a result of the breakdown of infrastructure that left people without medical care and treatment. People who lost power when they were under medical care. So when they take into account all of the compounding effects that the hurricane had and the disruptions on the health care system, when they take that into account and they do the research, it's 4,645. But I read something that says that total is probably closer to 5,000 there was 3,000 people died in 9-11 pause and think about that how fucking

outraged we were yeah over 9-11 yeah 5,000 people call it 46 45 that's 50 percent more people died in puerto rico than at 9-11 than in 911. And we're shrugging our fucking shoulders at this problem. We literally don't care. One of the stories that they tell in this is about a woman who, she got sick, went to the doctor, they gave her some antibiotics, she had some bad reaction or

something. She winds up trying to call, can't get cell reception for 15 or 20 minutes. Finally, they call the ambulance. The ambulance is dispatched, but it takes 30 or so minutes to get to her. And by the time they get to her, she's dead. And then they can't do an autopsy. So they don't count that body as someone who was a victim of the hurricane because of infrastructure

problems on both the cell lines and the roads. Yeah. I mean, if you pause and think about the devastation that has been wrought upon Puerto Rico, that island has changed forever. That island will not be the same. That island has been forever changed. It's not just that they're without power. Like you said, they're without all the associated services. In many areas of Puerto Rico, the roads were closed and they were not closed for a few hours or even a couple of days. They were closed for weeks or months at a time. Yeah.

So that means like, oh, I can't get anywhere. Well, also help can't get to me. Yeah. It's like you said, like cell service was down. Oh, I can't call for help. I can't. My dad's having a heart attack. Well, maybe he would have survived that.

Probably would have. But I can't fucking do anything about it. Yeah, yeah. It's a terrible situation. I saw a story recently of a guy who wound up buying an old cherry picker truck

and just going out and repairing the lines on his own. That's incredible. He just learned how to do it. He's terrified of heights, but he still does it just so people in his area can start getting power sooner than they were before. It's a horror showdown there. Because

there's the services in order to like to get to them was going to take so long. This man went out of his way to just be like a vigilante electrician. That is scary. Think about that for a second. That's terrifying. Like, I don't know.

It's a bird. It's a plane. It's a hope I don't get electrocuted. Oh, my God. It's got, like, not only is he afraid of heights, but, I mean, I'm sure he's got a healthy fear of electricity, too. Well, if he doesn't, he should. You know what my sincerest, genuinely, I mean this with my whole heart, my sincerest hope is that Puerto Rico becomes the 51st state very soon.

And then we can start fucking caring about this. Treating it like it matters. Right. Yeah. This idea that America can hold territories, that's a stupid fucking antiquated bullshit idea. It's old timey. Yeah.

There should be saloons there. Yeah, right? Look, we're either responsible or you're not. Yep, yep. Either you're our either responsible or you're not. Yep. Either you're our citizenry or you're not. Yeah. But no one is happier, no one is prouder

to put this birth certificate matter to rest than the Donald. And that's because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues

that matter. Like, did we fake the moon landing? What really happened in Roswell? And where are Biggie and Tupac? Oh my God, this is a right-wing watch. Cecil, I know it's hot,

and I don't know why. Why are you talking about this, though? Are you wiping the sweat from your brow, or are you putting your head in your hands? This is me rubbing the frustration into my eyes. All right, this is Carl Gallup's. I love that this is still a thing. Trump's demand for an investigation into Spygate is really about uncovering Obama's birth certificate. uncovering Obama's birth certificate.

Before we even play this, Cecil, what if we found that it was a fake birth certificate right now? Tell me what would change. Do we have a time machine that we could go? Do we break out the fucking flux capacitors? Do you remember?

I know you've heard this hardcore history. Yeah. Hardcore history about ancient Assyria. Yeah. There was a city called Nineveh. Right. That they wiped from history. They wiped from history.

Right. I'm only half kidding when I say that's what they want to do with Obama's presidency. They want to find some- Like just say everything was invalid? Well, they just want to find some way. I don't know that they can say everything's invalid. It's all been done. So you can't, but I think what they want to say is they want to, they want to wipe from history that anything positive was ever created by. Oh my God. And so in order to

do that, you've got to discredit him and you've got to keep discrediting him over and over and over again. And Obama didn't, I mean, Obama did make a lot of mistakes in office. Sure. And, you know, you can go back and look at some of those mistakes. We, you can, I think, what they want to try to do, though, is try to make sure that instead of focusing on mistakes,

you can, if you can just discredit him enough, then you don't have to take anything he did seriously. I do, I guess that's probably true. Do you know what I mean? Like,

I mean, there's no other reason I can think of. are they going to, like, You know what else they should do? They should look back and be like, he wasn't over the age of 35. I mean, if you're just going to be ridiculous, if you're just going to be fucking ridiculous,

then you know what? He wasn't a dude, and we only like dudes. It's an unwritten rule, it turns out. But pretty hard and fast. Pretty hard and fast, yeah. Kind of like me. Hey, now. All right, so I'm going to play Carl Gallup.

We might not interrupt this a lot. It takes him a while to get to his fucking point. Now the man, Donald Trump, who first called for Obama to display a birth certificate to the world, who started this whole thing with a birth certificate, Donald Trump did, he's now calling for the DOJ to investigate the FBI placing spies, and he's wanting to know how it was connected to the Obama and Clinton offices. He's just saying things to remove any sort of attention from himself. He's been doing that since the beginning. They have said many times that there hasn't been any of this stuff.

Rubio even recently came out and said, yeah, people were following people in his campaign, but they weren't following the campaign. Right. Yeah. This is this is a stop looking at me moment. Exactly. And we know that it is. But look, here's the thing. I want to say this to be clear. If there is if there is evidence and reason with you to have an investigation, let's have it. And then let's have a thorough, third-party, impartial investigation. And if it uncovers any evidence of corruption, double-dealing,

spying, or sabotage of any candidate, the thing is, this shit is important. If we don't have legitimate candidacies, we do not have a legitimate democracy. Right. So it is essential that our candidates be legitimate and that the democracy that we have and the voting system and the elections that we have. I look because either we have it or we don't have it. Right. Either we're a fucking democracy or we're not.

fucking democracy or we're not sure so i get i get worked up whenever anything sort of wedges its way in there right and threatens that because at the end of the day if that breaks down we we got nothing and we got nothing and what we have is fucking tenuous i don't want somebody using their powers of state to stop someone else from trying to attempt a candidacy in the United States because then you're basically Russia. Right. You know what I mean? Then you're another country. That's what I'm saying. You've got oligarchs deciding on power. Someone who's going to make that decision not for us. And I'm with you. Investigate the fuck out of that. Hell yeah. The thing is, is like, like, I'm happy to have that investigation run to run that investigation. Yeah. But we don't cancel the other one. Yeah.

And that's really what that's really what's underlined. That's what they're saying. Right. And that's what these people are saying to the Oval Office. Brother, I'm telling you, I'm going to tell your audience. I've not shared this with any other audience yet. Your audience is the first. I believe with all my heart in the next year or two, this whole birth certificate thing is going to come to light.

Oh, my God. Who's going to remember? But you? It's going to happen. Are you ready? This birth certificate thing. This thing that we put to bed. Is that the thing that Q had? Right? That was his problem. Oh, so he had the birth certificate. No, you know what happened is,

it's Hillary Clinton cutting the face off the birth certificate. That's what we have. No, you know what happened is it's Hillary Clinton cutting the face off the birth certificate and then fucking the birth certificate. That's what we have. I don't understand how this is even a controversy. This guy has been vetted. Obama is not president anymore. Yeah.

It's done. He hasn't been president since 2016. You know what this is? This is all whataboutism. Like, that's all this is. It's this constant stream of it that we've been hearing since the fucking election. Anytime there's a criticism of Trump, you hear, anytime there's a criticism

of Trump, and then the response is, well, Hillary, I stopped listening to that. Hillary lost the election. And it's funny because we don't do that with any other, I've never heard this, like, when Obama was president, you didn't hear a lot do that with any other... I've never heard this. When Obama was president, you didn't hear like, well, McCain. Right. I never heard that.

I never heard that. Nobody said that. You never heard like, well, Mondale. You never heard this crazy stuff. What's that Mormon's guy from Massachusetts? Romney. Romney. You never heard that? Well, Romney. Nobody said that. Nobody says that. There's this weird thing with Trump. Well, Gore. Right. It's only with Trump. Like, look, the ship has fucking that. There's this weird thing with Gore.

Right. It's it's only with Trump. Like, look, the ship has fucking sailed. It's been two years. We're at the midterms here in about an hour. It's the midterms in a couple months. So criticisms of our existing president. And I'm not talking about criticizing whether he's I guess I would I would entertain an argument that that had Hillary in the conversation if the criticism was Trump should not have won

the presidency, I think there was an irregularity with regard to the election, right? Because now we're discussing the election. The election had Hillary as the opponent. Or if you're saying, I think Hillary would have been a better president. Right. That's another argument. And that also includes Hillary Clinton. But if what we're saying is, this is a criticism of the current Trump administration, that it is a criticism of the current Trump administration. That it is a criticism of the current Trump administration. It is not a de facto, well, the other side would have been better. I don't care. I don't have a fucking crystal ball.

Maybe if Hillary was president, it would have been a fucking disaster. I don't know. Yeah. But what I know is I see who's in power. We look at the things that are being done and then we criticize those things. They have now nothing to do with the woman who was never fucking president. I don't get it. You're talking about fantasy sports at that point.

I know, right? There's nothing to it. Oh my God, who would want to fight, a ninja or a grizzly bear? I don't, you know. The grizzly bear. What the fuck is wrong with you? Of course, grizzly bear wins every time.

How many swords does the ninja have? That doesn't even matter. It doesn't even matter. Now I want to see a ninja fight a grizzly bear. It doesn't even matter. Because Donald Trump has just called, called basically for the DOJ to investigate Obama's involvement in all of this deep state shenanigans. And I'm telling you, like I told your audience in the past, Brother Carl, that birth certificate goes to the foundation of a lot of what we're watching. I don't I don't even know what that could possibly mean.

If Obama really. Because hold on. If Obama really had a deep state program. That he was controlling from afar. Through some nefarious plan. It still wouldn't matter about his birth certificate. What would be the. If you found that out definitively.

You'd be like fuck. You got to stop doing that. Go to jail. And I also, when they keep talking about the deep state, the deep state did this, the deep state's doing this, the deep state did that. Let me tell you, the deep state certainly didn't fucking help Hillary

get elected. You know what I mean? The deep state is ultra-powerful, but impotent. Also not useful. That's the thing that always makes me laugh about this conspiracy shit, right? Is because they name this power, this deep state, and it's the thing that always makes me laugh about this conspiracy shit, right? Is because they, they name this, this power, this deep state.

And it's the same with almost every conspiracy, right? Some random power that they can't name. They are ultra powerful in all these regards. And they never say like, you know, the head of this thing is controlling. It's always the deep state.

It's never the head of this department is doing this thing. Yeah. It's, it's an undifferentiated mass of of yeah people it's basically like a a sleeper cell of bureaucrats that got activated they're either powerful or they're not powerful right if they're like what why would you be like here's the plan we're gonna we're gonna take all this power and all the power brokers are really the guys who are just like getting coffee.

But now it's like fight club. Like they watch you while they sleep. And then you're going to win there. We're going to lose the election though. So that's our first step. Wait a minute. The first step is. Sir,

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sloppy glory hole to all the patrons and people who rate us. You fucking rock. Alex Jones, the sweatiest man on television, says the Boy Scouts of America is a pedophile induction center. Oh. a pick. Okay.

Here we go. They have to all be made out of pure metal. Their induction. Their induction. They've got to be magnetic. Right. You've got to make sure they're made. There's some iron in it.

It's nice because you can heat them up quicker. They just feed them Wheaties in the morning. They're in the induction center all day. I said, you know, let me go check and make sure the Boy Scouts really are handing out condoms like they said they are on Monday. And they're not. It's actually the International Scout something or another. I looked this up.

Snopes had a huge article on it. The International, let me see. It's a world. The International Condom Scouts. World Organization of the Scout Movement is what it's called. Whenever they have these big worldwide scout things, the worldwide scout movement is the one that hands. So it's not the Boy Scouts of America.

It's a larger organization that the Boy Scouts of America are fitted into. And they're not handing out condoms. Condoms are available. I see. So there's a difference. There's a huge difference.

I just wanted to point that out. And I went and read it. It said, got it right here somewhere. It said, all participants will be given condoms. No, that's not true. All participants may have access to condoms, but all participants are not given condoms.

Okay, but to be entirely fair, I just want to state, and I know, if I had a kid, I couldn't send my kids to the scouts, right? Because I'm an atheist, so they won't take my kids who are also atheists. But any organization that wants to give any of my kids condoms at any time is welcome to do it. I have a four-year-old. If you want to put condoms in his backpack, I'd be like, cool. Those won't be good by time you use them. Yeah, right? They'll fall off

your tiny pecker. Unless you make a giant water bowl. I don't understand why anybody doesn't want their kids to have condoms. Do you want unplanned pregnancies? I know. Do you want unplanned pregnancies? Like, do you want to be a granddad at 31? I would, I would fucking cover all of Mike. If I could get all three of the boys in my home,

if I could get all three of my kids, if I could get them all vasectomies right now and have my little girls tubes tied tomorrow, I would do it. I would do it all right now. Just have it. Just don't do it. None of you should. None of you. Are you kidding me? I would wrap you guys head to toe in latex

with just a tiny air hole with a straw. There are people into that. Including the 11-year-old boys and girls. Good. Because 11-year-old girls sometimes can get pregnant. And they're not giving them to them.

They are available to them. There's a difference. All participants will be given condoms. What's the message there? When you hand 11 year old sex is better than unsafe sex. Even if it were true, the message is, hey, be careful because sex has consequences. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Letting people know about the consequences of sex earlier rather than later is probably a good thing. I found out because now I done made a girl. I'm 64. I have 14 grandchildren. Someone just told me sex have consequences. Oh, no. I got gays. You know, it's so funny because like

we teach people to drive before we let them drive right we should put them in a simulator you know what I mean though I was doing simulations before I had sex I would argue a lot of the sex I initially had was simulated but like with sex it's like why do we not want to teach people about it before they, like, do you want to teach after?

It's because we're super duper afraid of it. We're like, oh my God, I can't tell kids about sex. They might have it. They're going to have it. Regardless of whether you tell them about it. They're all going to have it. Because that thing down there in the nethers, that thing's a pulsating when you get to be 13. It's like, I want to do stuff.

You're not even sure what you're doing. You're like, I ran against the door. How you doing, buddy? Hey, buddy! Hey! Me! Me, me, me, me, me, me, me! That's what it's doing every moment of your day. Right. You're like, when you're at that age, you're like, I'll put it in the refrigerator. Like, why? What? Why'd you do that? I don't know.

You're fucking your mom's coat. You're just like, whatever! I don't know. I can't. I don't care. It's ridiculous. They are absolutely going to do it. The best time to learn about things with serious life-altering consequences is after you've already done them.

I killed a guy. Hey, that's illegal. I wish someone would have mentioned that. Whoops-a-doodle. Boys. Condoms. The message is it's like handing somebody a gun and bullets. In my case, they're blanks, I guess.

They already have the gun and bullets. They got the... They already got it. They're shooting bullets into their fucking sheets every night. Somebody chewing gum. Handing somebody... Wait, hold on. What did he say? Hold on. The message is

it's like handing somebody a gun and bullets or handing somebody chewing gum or handing somebody you walk in and say, hey, here's a Nintendo controller. You want to play Nintendo? You don't metaphor well. You should stop metaphoring. You're not good at that.

It's like handing them chewing gum. What are you talking about? You don't chew on anything during sex. That's bad. Yeah. That's not. Or you have chewable condoms, which is weird. Oh, God. Oh, get it off. What are you doing? They're blowing bubbles. It just gets bigger.

Someone should have taught you about this. And bigger and bigger. But what they're saying is, get ready for these poor young men that are just coming trying to learn how to camp and meet some friends. Get ready for, instead of the Boy Scouts of America,

the Junior Swingers of America. The Junior Swingers. Are they in committed fucking relationships? Go there and they all throw the key into the bowl for their TP or whatever they're saying. What the fuck? I'm here for my rainbow council, if you know what I mean. Pow wow. Pow wow.

Oh, gosh. Change the J from B, junior. Swingers, American. Nothing's going to go wrong. And then I canvassed the former Boy Scouts here. I was a Cub Scout, but didn't quit after that that so i never had it was a church cub scout thing it was great i'm burping up by the way he's burping up he's burping you could see him like like the thing is is like maybe if you're hearing him he just sounds like he's pausing. Like you'd see his,

his face did this thing. He's got this sort of squinty face going on. Camping and stuff. By the time I was 11, I was already doing sports too much to be in the Boy Scouts. No, you weren't. No,

you weren't. I love this guy's glory days are when he was in high school and 11 years old. When I was 11, I was fucking these girls. They were like 17 at the Satan parties. The world in my hand. When I was 11, I caught that one pass. It was amazing. Best time of my life was 29 years ago in sixth grade.

Really? Nobody gives a shit. You're a piece of garbage. I hit this ramp and did a sweet jump. But I canvassed the Boy Scouts here. And they said, no, no, 20, 30 years ago, there was, you know, quite a bit of, not with them, but, you know, quite a bit of, well, signs which I had it described to me. And let's just say they were giving fellatio lessons and other things. And you explain to me how the world is better off when it has a worse off when it has fellatio lessons.

Tell me that that's a worse world. You know, what's terrible. We're going to raise a nation of people. Good at sucking dick. Is this what we want? Yeah. Okay.

That's literally what everybody, everybody on both ends of that. It's like uh you're really good at that thank you yeah high five right all right nailed it nobody wants to be bad at it yeah you know let's get your merit badge now for that i would like to see the dick sucking merit badge show me show me the merit bag it's not a dick it's got to be a mouth right it's like it basically like you sew on like a rolling stone logo with the lips in the mouth on your outfit i think oh my god

i can make some really bad jokes but i'm not gonna do it but i'm not funny so i can't i actually can't make a joke i don't know what jokes are bur Burp. Merit badges for a lot of things. I can think of the merit badges. Think of all the merit badges you could get for sexual conduct, guys. You could have a put it in the butt merit badge. What about butt stuff merit badge? Reach around merit badge, guys.

Are you following me? Are you following me on this one? What are we not going to put up with at this point, folks? This is total cultural sabotage. By who? It's the scout organization. If I was a parent. Sabotage by who?

But if I was a parent with a kid in the scouts, the scouts is voluntary. Right. So if they were like, we're going to the fucking world scout organization And there's going to be like free rubbers. And I was like, I'm not into that. I'm going to keep my kid home. Yeah, so it could be stupid. Done. Like, it's just, that's it. I know. What I love is that he's like, they're holding this

organization hostage in some way so you can't have fun anymore. Oh, I didn't learn how to start a campfire because I was too busy putting this rubber on start your own scouts with fucking hookers and blow like you could start your own shit yeah well you know it's so funny

because like the religious nuts have tried a number of times to start their own scouting organizations but nobody wants to play with them you have to be some you have to have some religious affiliation and the scouts have the scouts have the Mormons as their primary

financial backer. At least they did. Can you be a secular humanist? You cannot. Huh. You can't. Interesting. Yeah. So you can be a Muslim, you can be a Jain, you can be a Hindu. And I called to see if they were flexible. And they said no. They said no. They said, your kid can't come play with us because he doesn't believe in God.

That's true. Wow. Fuck them. Who cares about them? So I was like, all right. And there's secular alternatives to scouts. Sure, yeah, yeah. But what's funny is there are hyper-religious groups that feel like the scouts are too liberal. And they've tried to start their own scouting program. And nobody cares about it because it's sad. And all

of their lives are sad. And nobody goes. I'm already thinking, like, this one's too religious. I know. It's so funny because it's like, for us, it's like, whoa, wait a minute. That's too much. And know. It's so funny. Cause it's like, for us, it's like, Whoa, wait a minute.

That's too much. And then there's for some people it's like, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. That's too much. No, you got to actually,

you've got to be crucified before you can get this tall to ride this cross. Handing condoms to 11 year olds is pedophilia. No, it's not. No, it's not. What? Fucking the kid with a condom on that's pedophilia. And barebacking them. That's also pedophilia. No, it's not. Fucking the kid with a condom on, that's pedophilia.

And barebacking them. That's also pedophilia. Yeah, that's true. You don't have to use a condom to be a pedophile. It's condom optional. Right. Yes, we earned our safe anal sex merit badge. It's an old timey color image

with someone with a speech bubble that says we earned our safe anal sex merit badge. It's better than earning the unsafe anal sex merit badge. Yeah, it's better than earning that I have to take AIDS medication for the rest of my life merit badge. It's better than like, I have an anal fissure merit badge. That's no good. Like, I have trauma now. Like, oh, OK. You want answers?

I think I'm entitled. You want answers. I want the truth. You can't handle the truth. The story is also right wing watch. This is Jim Baker. He knows in his spirit that 100 hitmen have been hired to kill Trump. That's a lot of hitmen.

He knows it in his spirit, though. That's where you know the best stuff. Yeah, let's hear it. This is Jim Baker from his Jim Baker bucket show. Okay, how can we do this to a president? How can we put him on trial? Well, if he's guilty of a crime, you can put

him on. That's how being a United States citizen works. And also, he's not on trial. He's not on trial yet. Right. Yeah. So he's not on trial. Yeah. He's not on trial yet. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So he's not on trial. So we haven't done that.

Also, we talked about last week, like what the options are. And like that one seems very unlikely. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they said, they said that there is, there is a legal case to be made that a sitting president cannot be indicted. Right. So we may not be able to put him on trial.

Right. Even if he commits. Yeah. Crimes. When there's no sign of a crime, how could... Oh, wait a minute. Hold on a minute.

There we go. We don't know. I mean, like, you know, nobody... Mueller's been really good about keeping a lot of shit close to his vest. Stuff doesn't get out

until after stuff has happened with him. He doesn't... There's no... There's very few leaks when it comes to what's happening with him. And the stuff that happens,

people are a lot of times speculating about what's happening because there's no leaks there's nothing to get it's just a lot yeah he's doing it i think what jim baker here is insinuating is that trump is on trial now in the court of public opinion well that's true yeah so that's what i think that's what i think he turns out that happens to every single president that happens to every public figure yeah right happens all the time. Right. What is going on? Because we're failing. We're failing in our responsibility.

Our responsibility is that we're supposed to watch the back of the man that God put in the White House, not run for the hills. Okay. So we watch his back. That might mean voting. It may be praying and fasting. Those two things are very different. I'm going to cast my fast. Really?

Go to see the person at the polls. You're like, I just want my vote to count more. I prayed and fasted. Right. You'd be like, I didn't eat lunch, so I get two votes. Yeah. That's what I didn't. It's like 1245.

One for my hungry tummy. Look, I skipped Starbucks this morning. I get three votes. Okay. I don't do that. It's showing up there. Law abiding,

peaceful. We watch the man's back, but not only that, we watch his back as he drives every scoundrel, skunk, thief, deceiver, two-faced liar

from his cabinet from his administration what are we talking about from his family with all the credentials and all the three-letter word whatever

he did not finish that sentence with all the credentials and three-letter words whatever that doesn't make any sense to what he was just talking about none of that was actually a complete thought or sentence.

He said like, we watch their back while he drives them with their three-letter words and credentials. Drives them where? I don't know. Like to the McDonald's? Sunday drive. Like, hey guys, buy on the car. We're going to go do a little garage sale. Hey guys, we're going to Arlington. We're going to take

selfies. This is our man. We got going to take selfies. This is our man. We got to watch his back. He's not Superman. He's a mortal man. They want to kill him. Who wants to kill him? Who has said what indication or evidence or proof do we have? And how, if I liked

him, would I watch his back? Am I going to like, I'm like, I'm volunteer secret service. There's a million people just running around being like, no, like diving in front of bullets. I'm the citizen secret service. Yeah. Get close to him. See how that works out for you.

Stand there with your little Bluetooth in your ear and be like, he's coming this way. Suddenly you're dead. Right. Exactly. Or you're surrounded or you're arrested. Maybe in that order. Well, are you black? So that actually determines the order.

In the book Trumpocalypse, I was in that order. Well, are you black? So that actually determines the order. In the book Trumpocalypse, I was in Trumpocalypse. You call the book Trumpocalypse? Could there be a no more perfect name for this presidency? Because he's going to end the world. Interviewing a well-known pastor. You know him. Everybody here

would know him. And this well-known pastor. But I'm not going to tell you who he is. Everybody would know him. but I can't say who he is. I don't know. Because it's not true. Anyway, I was talking to the most powerful person you can't verify that I talked to. This is not true. This is not true because you're not going to

tell me who it is. One time I finger-banged a girl in Canada. I have this unverified source that can quote me on finger-banging something. He had just been in the White House with Trump and he had met a very high level Republican leader who'd been there for 35 years

and been very... Not Trump? He just met Trump. What other... Okay, I can't. This is deep state stuff, though. What he's gonna say is, he's gonna talk about, it's the same thing. It's like some unverified person had an unverified conversation about something completely unverified person had an unverified conversation about something completely unverified. But I got

the fucking transcript in my book. So, you know, you can read it word for word as I made it up for you. My cousin's brother's uncle's wife's secretary's daughter once told me. It's like the David Icke book. You remember when the David Icke book where he'd just make these conclusions and you'd be like, wait, how did you get there?

Right, yeah. And he'd be like, oh no. And lizard people! And here's an entire conversation with someone. Very respected. And this high-level Republican leader took the pastor aside and said to him, secretly, privately, he said, you understand

that the deep state is planning on taking out Trump. I'm going to kill myself. Oh my God. This is exactly what was happening earlier, though. It's the same thing. It's the same argument. Is this the way in which they continue

to be the underdog over and over and over again? I think that this, there is a desire, especially when there's a president who campaigned on the idea of underdogism, which is amazing because he also is a billionaire. Well, a supposed billionaire. Right. Yeah. I'm a billionaire underdog. Don't you? Really? Really?

But that's who we elected. We elected a billionaire reality TV show underdog to be president. I had to. I was the run to the litter. I had to suck from a very small golden nipple. Melania still feels weird about it when I do that now. But when I gilded her nipples, that's what I'm saying. It's part of the deal. It's in the prenup. I gilded her nipples. Gold finger.

You were saying, I interrupted you. That's all right. I think I was saying it was going to be more important about the gilded nipples. You were talking about how Trump ran on a campaign. a campaign he ran on a campaign of underdogism thank you and like i think if he loses the status of underdog and claims the role of most powerful fucking person in the world yeah then he loses the sympathies of those people that he's relying on for 2020 but conversely he's constantly bemoaning his lack of respect as that powerful position or as that person in a power position.

So he's trying to maintain both roles. And it's interesting to watch him juggle that. It's interesting to watch people let him juggle that. And the pastor said, well, what do you mean by taking him out? And the Republican leader said, I mean, in taking it out, I mean, like, in killing or assassinating. So we have the whole transcription here. Yeah, the whole transcription that you made up. By an undisclosed source.

It's like an undisclosed source told you this happened. That's not a transcription. Cecil, did I? I mean, it is. Maybe if he told you what he heard. Cecil, did I? I mean, it is. Maybe if he told you what he heard.

Now, I wrote this down in my blog that I once talked to a gremlin who told me that the inside of the earth was actually made out of marshmallow fluff. And because I wrote that in my blog. That sounds amazing, by the way. Right? Gosh. It's true now. Take me to that land. This is how truth works. However, if you had marshmallows in this room, they would be fluff.

They would turn into fluff. No, they would be overcooked. Yeah, your s'more would be overcooked. And then in the book? In the book. In fact, this is so weird. There's so many miracles. See, I've been saying for months on the air, there's probably a hundred hit men been hired to kill Trump.

They are the most incompetent hit men ever. Man. Because not a single one has even hired to kill Trump. They are the most incompetent hit men ever. Man. Because not a single one has even tried to attempt it. Do you get your money back on a hit man? Like, is it? So how does that work? So I feel like it's, it's like when the drug dealer takes your money, who are you going to tell?

Yeah, that's a good point. You're like, oh yeah. Hey, cops, that guy, there was a cops and amazing cops. I saw once where a guy got ripped off trying to buy crack. And he went to get the cops and he told the cops. And then he was like, what were you trying to get? He's like, he, I was trying to buy something. And they're like, what were you trying to buy?

And he's like, I was trying to buy something. And then like, they keep going back and forth. They finally arrest both of them. One had crack on him and the other one was trying to buy crack. That's amazing. It's a really stupid thing to be like, yeah, my hitman didn't work out.

The problem is that you got to hire a hitman to go after your hitman that doesn't kill the guy. So you have this Russian nesting doll full of hitmen. You hired a spider to kill the fly. It's like you just hire that French guy from The Professional or that little girl. And the hitman's name was Spider and the other one was Fly. So we are joined by a friend of the show, Marissa Alexa McCool,

the author of her new book, Once Unspoken. Marissa, welcome back. Thank you so much for having me back. So you got a new book. Tell us about it. So there's this play called The Vagina Monologues. I think a few people may have heard of it. That'll never catch on. And, you know, it was written back in the 90s.

Vagina, I mean, not the monologue. Yeah. And ever since then, it's been performed on a lot of college campuses. And it also served as an opportunity last year for me to make my first public appearance. an opportunity last year for me to make my first public appearance. And it turned out I was the first trans woman ever cast in the Vagina Monologue show at 17 years of the UPenn's production. Oh, wow. So the next year, they invited me back as a spotlight speaker to perform my own piece. But I noticed that because of the license of the show, there were an awful lot of women in that show who felt like they weren't

represented and weren't allowed to express anything that was outside of the script, which of course was written, you know, 20 some years ago. What do you mean by the license of the show? I don't know what that means. So in order to perform the show,

you have to agree to the license to purchase the play. And even so, the author has a really hard time letting anybody add lines or improvise anything or go off script in any way. But because I was coming back as not technically part of the show,

I was allowed to say whatever I wanted. And one person... Can I ask you an intervening question? Sure. And I'm just genuinely curious. So what is it about the vagina monologues that lends itself to like a more open or improvisational add-on interpretation that other plays or works of art that are more typically like lockdown might not have you know what i mean like because i think like if you were doing like, I'm going to do Hamlet, you just do Hamlet. But the vagina monologues has this sort of different element to it. So what is it about the vagina monologues for people who might not be familiar with them that would sort of lend itself to this kind of improvisational nature or add-on nature or whatever the best way is to say that?

So most of the speeches and monologues in it are very direct. They are very personal and they deal with a lot of issues like, you know, sexual assault and sex and, you know, everything that involves being a woman or having a vagina. And there are a lot of feelings that come along with that, especially for kids who have been assaulted themselves. And the one specific example that I had was the person who ended up writing the foreword was a Southeast Asian woman, and she was wearing a full sari. And she had to fight just to get the line, my sari is not an excuse to fetishize me into the show. And it really bothered me that something that personal that didn't change the narrative, didn't change the piece, but was something that really

meant a lot to her. She had to fight for that. And meanwhile, I'm coming in like, hey, I'm Riz McCool. I'm saying whatever the fuck I want for five minutes, you know? So we were talking about that and we kind of had the thing of, you know, this show was written 20 years ago. There's nothing about social media. There's nothing about school shootings. There's nothing about online bullying. And it's not to say that it's a bad show, but it does need some updates. And there are an awful lot of people who don't feel included.

There's only one trans monologue and that one's problematic at best. The trans men are completely invisible from it. Non-binary people are completely invisible from it. And there aren't a lot of pieces that are directed toward women and people of color. And we just kind of had one of those things of, yeah, we should start our own show with Blackjack and hookers. And then I was like, wait, why don't we do that? And that's pretty much how this book started. Okay. Yeah. Cause that, that seems, that's what kind of what I was thinking while you were talking

is like, all right, well, there's this, there's this piece that already exists. And like, I think if I created something, I would be like, yeah, that's the thing I created. And if people were like, I'd like to change it, I'd be like, I would like you to not change it because I created it. And that's what I changed. So like what, what excites me about this is like, you know, there's, there's a space for the existing art. And then there's this new space that sounds like it has a need, a social need to be created. So tell me about the new space that you're creating. The new space I'm creating is focused on queer women. And once again, women and people who are born with vaginas like, you know, non-binary people and trans men who are not women but have vaginas. And also people of color,

people from different parts of the world, people who have been through different traumatic experiences. And of course, atheist women. I uh several names that most people in the atheist community would know uh callie wright and mandisa thomas among them and instead of what eve ensler did which was in interview a lot of different people and then interpret their experience into all pieces that she wrote i decided to instead give the space to those people to tell their own stories. So I don't know what it's like to be a trans woman of color. And it would be foolish of me to presume I know what that's like. So I went to my friend Princess Harmony and said, hey, you write a lot about this. Why don't you share your story? Or Mandisa Thomas talking about appearing for a secular woman photo shoot. I don't know what it's

like to be a woman of color in Atlanta or, you know, live like she has. So I feel like giving these women and people the space to tell their own story instead of tell people what their story is or have me, from my experience, interpret what it is, I felt was a much needed update because Eve Hensler was interviewed by the school newspaper the week before. And she said, yeah, maybe it's time for me to write an update. And a lot of the women in the show were like, well, why don't you let other people speak now? And I tried to take that to heart. The Vagina Monologues is a really interesting piece of feminist literature. I have a question, and I don't want to come off like an asshole or transphobic or be a dick.

And I know you're going to take this in the right sense, but I want to preface it by saying that. they really do reject trans women because they feel like you haven't, for parts of your life, you lived as a man, so you don't know what it's like to live as a woman. Do some feminists reject trans women in that way? And what would you say to people that use that argument against you? Well, we have a term for them. It's called TERFs, trans-exclusionary radical feminists. And they not only reject our experience and our identity, but I saw reports of the Women's March a couple months ago where these people were going to the Women's March and taking pictures of people's crotches who they thought might be trans to, you know, try to get infiltrators or whatever. And it's like, okay, so you're trying to prove that you're the creepy ones by going

around and taking pictures of people's crotches. By taking off skirts? Yeah, exactly. What the fuck? So, you know, there is some element of the fact that we were not born, quote unquote, as women, and we were raised to be different than who we are. And that's valid, but it also doesn't mean we aren't who we say we are. It doesn't mean that we didn't struggle for years to grow into who we are or understand that. And it certainly doesn't mean we didn't get our ass kicked all the time for being too feminine or being too, you know, whatever.

But can I, can I ask an intervening question again? Isn't it, would it be fair to say that it's just a different experience that maybe that what it needs is not to share space, but to have its own space? Because it sounds like a very different experience to be a trans woman than to be a, um, cis woman. It seems to me like those are very different socialized experiences throughout your life. I can see the necessity for both experiences to be celebrated, but also differentiated because they're going to be very different experiences. Would that be a fair thing to consider? With some things, yes. But at the same time, consider? With some things, yes. But, you know, at the same time, we the whole point of intersectionality is that you bring your different experiences to the conversation. And there are plenty of trans women who transitioned when they were children and have

lived their whole lives as women. And there are those of us who didn't even know what trans was until we were adults. But that doesn't make our experience invalid either. The problem I see is that a lot of us are trying to fight the same fight. And it's not like trans women are coming into these spaces saying, oh, you don't know what it means to be a woman or whatever, anything like that. It's just we have different experiences as women and we face some of the same discrimination from the same people, only we tend to get murdered for it. You know, so it's that there, of course, are different experiences. And we one thing I don't think that people consider with trans people is whenever we talk about the different ways that

men and women are treated or the different experiences they have, we have a lot of those firsthand. So especially trans women who go from a relative place of privilege to not having that privilege, we've seen firsthand the different ways people are treated because we can reflect on when we were perceived differently to be like, whoa, this didn't happen before I transitioned. Nobody gave me any problem over this. I didn't have to watch my drink. I didn't have to wonder if someone was following me. So while there may be a need to differentiate some conversations, a lot of the time it's done to exclude us, not to differentiate the conversation. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does. It's exclusionary rather than inclusionary. Yeah,

that makes sense. So what is your favorite story from this book? Well, it's exclusionary rather than inclusionary. Yeah, that makes sense. So what is your favorite story from this book? Well, it's actually from the experience of someone who was assigned female at birth and their son got murdered. And this was recent, like in January. And I was following their experience because this started coming out a lot, you know, right before Parkland happened. So the gun debate got started for the 487,000th time. And there was this person that I went to school with whose 19 year old son was murdered with a shotgun point blank. story of going to the coroner and wanting to see the body and they wouldn't they couldn't show it to them but they offered to remove a sheet to show his hand and that image alone was one of the most haunting experiences i've ever seen and then you have this person who has a pretty valid reason to not like guns having even family members say well you're not taking away my guns you're not doing all this it's like her fucking son got murdered you assholes so uh

their their piece is a lot about growing up and how the the running theme of the piece uh their name is melissa frank how they say i thought abuse was the worst thing that could ever happen to me. I thought this was the worst thing that could ever happen to me, or at least this wasn't the worst thing that could ever happen to me. And then they tell the story of their son and it's heart wrenching. And a part of it is the speech they gave at the March for Our Lives. They were in Duluth, Minnesota. And I really admired the fact that anyone could ever go through and being willing to use their platform to not just raise their own cause, but help others. Wow. So where can people find this book?

You can find it on Amazon or at my personal website, rismacool.com, R-I-S-M-C-C-O-O-L. And I can send along a PayPal link to buy it directly from me. It'll be signed by me. So I tend to buy a bunch of copies and then send out signed copies of it as well. Oh, nice. That's nice. Nice. Nice. If people are going to find you, I know you do Inciting Incident. You also do a couple other podcasts. Can you tell us about the podcast that you're involved in? Yeah. First of all of all, the inciting incident podcast is having their 150th episode in Chicago at the den theater on June 23rd. Um,

so anyone near the area, uh, I'm sure there's still tickets available. So more than welcome to join us. We will have my cohost, Bethany for trail, who is the head of, uh,

Chicago atheists, as well as Alex Jules, Mandisa, Thomas, Stephanie's van, and Jenica Crail. My second podcast is called The Sister Getting Out of Hand, and I co-host that with Ari Stillman of The Gaytheist Manifesto. And we use that podcast. It's a trans-only podcast. So only

trans people are on it. Only trans people make it. Only trans people are involved with it at all. And we use skits and other experiences to sort of not have to do 101 all the time. So it's a place for us to bitch about everybody else without having to stop and define everything, which, you know, people like me and Ari don't mind going out and explaining those things, but it's nice to have one space where we don't have to. A little preaching to the choir. Yeah. And I also produce a couple of shows. I produce manuals at news.

I produce the interesting life of Chris. I produce secular soup, which I'm, I've heard y'all have something going on. I don't know what you're talking about. I've never heard. I've never heard of it. I don't know what it is.

And I produce my husband's show for trans men. So I've, I'm a little busy show for trans men. So I've, I'm a little busy, but I imagine. Well, Riz, thanks so much for joining us. Good luck with your book.

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not happen if it's just a tom it's just a tom what are you fucking kidding me? When I go through some of the email that we got, the first is a message from coil, coil, coil. Let's go with that. We got a message. We got this message from a few people. A couple of people sent us links about the queen's power.

I guess the king and queen have some powers. Although these powers are not powers that get enacted very often. They can like dissolve parliament. And they're the one who actually appoints the prime minister. But they never go against the House of Commons. Like I understand that they have power. But from a practical level. They never really use it.

And I mean like let's be honest. They're cutting a lot of ribbons. I mean let's just be honest. They're controlling the swans. Someone's got. Won't somebody think of the swans? Look at how many fucking medals are on that dude's chest. That guy is. Is he married to her? Does she have

a husband? The queen? Yeah. Oh, I have no idea. And why isn't he the king if he's the... No, that's not how that works. Oh, okay. If you're not from like the line. If you didn't come out of the vagina? Right. If you're not from that line, you can't marry into the Superdome or whatever. Like you didn't come out of the vagina? Right. If you're not from that line, you can't marry into the Superdome or whatever.

Like, you can't. That's why the prince has a... I already stopped listening. Duchess. I already stopped listening. But not... I learned all this. I literally don't know what you're talking about.

I may have gotten it wrong. All right. This story is about Adam and Eve. This is from James. He said, what we did with the multiple swings was hang one from the door and another from the ceiling.

We found with a minor bit of work, either person can be in either swing. Oh, nice. It's actually a hell of an experience. You got to work for it, but it's well worth it to see her enjoyment. Well, can you switch mid swing? Is that a possibility? There you go. Yeah. I don't know. So those swings, by the way, they're a free

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So we got a message from Carl, and Carl had just wanted to send us a nice message. He lives in buttfuck nowhere, Australia. I don't know where that is on a map. I wonder kind of if that's a mine. Couldn't he have just written Australia? That feels redundant. I guess.

I don't know. I would imagine so. But Carl, thanks for listening from such a faraway place. We got a message. This is from Christopher. And Christopher found us through Citation Needed, a show you should listen to, by the way. You should be listening to Citation Needed. Last week, we did Lord Timothy

Dexter. That was a really fun episode to do. So those of you who don't know what Citation Needed is, Citation Needed is a Wikipedia based podcast. We do it with the Puzzle and the Thunderstorm guys. We take an article from Wikipedia. We break it down. We chit chat about it. We mostly make jokes. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun.

But he wound up finding us through Satation Needed and started our back catalog. So thanks for listening. He's up to 235. I don't want to break it to you, but Trump is president. I just want you to know that right now. It's the saddest day ever. We got a message from Casey

and Casey said that he was at a wedding recently. And at that wedding, he had heard the Bible verse that I'm going to read to you spoken out loud and it totally gave him a shock face. It says, this is Ephesians 5.22 through 33. I'm not going to read all the way through 33. I'll probably just read 5. and 520, 522 through 524. Wives, submit yourself to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body of which he is Savior. Now, as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

That includes butt stuff, ladies. I'm just saying. We got a message, Tom. Now, this is from Name Redacted, and I want you to read this. This is really important. This is the QAnon stuff. This is from somebody who sent us

a message. It's just about QAnon, so go ahead. What's up, guys? I'm a super. And I just, I'm not even going to, it's just about QAnon. So go ahead. What's up, guys? I'm a super secret CIA operative reaching out via my secure Gmail account. Secure Gmail. Do you have like two-factor authentication? Because that's better than Podesta.

I'm just saying. Yeah. I'm here to confirm that the military is in fact fighting MS-13 in the streets of every major U.S. city. that the military is in fact fighting MS-13 in the streets of every major U.S. city. They are doing this while fighting a losing war in the Middle East and practicing for the impending military takeover. New World Order, FEMA, insurrection,

Jade Helm, martial law, circuit jerk. Callback to last year's Jade Helm. God, I love Jade Helm. You got to put a Jade Helm right at the hoo-ha. The wistful days of Jade Helm. People were only partly crazy. Remember when we were worried about being worried about that. Oh, gosh, Tom.

Everything Alex Jones has said about the military is always 100% correct. 100. Now, name redacted, this would have been better if you just said 150% correct. That's more percents. That's more percentages. So we want to thank Riss for coming on. She came on to talk about her book, Once Unspoken.

You can get that on Amazon. You can also find all her other works on this week's show notes. This is episode 417. So that's going to wrap it up, but we're not going to wrap it up like we normally do. We're going to toss it off to Riss to do the skeptics creed credulity is not a virtue

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Shut the thing off. I don't want to, Cecil. I know you don't. Cecil, I don't want to turn off the air conditioner. Are we recording right now? Yeah. Hey, guys. Yeah. I want you to know how much we care.

Because right now, don't say anything. Okay. The sound you're about to hear is the sound with the air conditioner on. Yeah. That's the sound. We care enough about the sound quality of the show to eliminate that. We shut the air conditioner off. So let's all have a moment of silence.

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