Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 42: Zombie Jesus Meets Santa Muerte

Episode Date: April 9, 2012

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Do you want to get Cognitive Dissonance streamed to your iPhone or Blackberry? If so, download Stitcher free today at Stitcher.com. I read a book, Consolation of Philosophy. The main guy, Boethius, is condemned to death. He has everything taken from him. All he has is his reason and his sense of self. Not even that. But he attempts to console himself to this execution
Starting point is 00:00:24 by reasoning that the world has order. he attempts to console himself to this execution by reasoning that the world has order, that there is something that keeps things together and he uses his reason to try and get to the root of why he should be at peace at death
Starting point is 00:00:40 the problem is his source of origin is a belief in God what would you do? well I don't know if I fully understand the question I do know that if he's about to be executed how about you are about to be executed?
Starting point is 00:00:59 I'm about to be executed you have nothing except your knowledge and your knowledge of science, your experience. I would request that my body, in death, be buried, not cremated, so that the energy content contained within it gets returned to the earth so that flora and fauna can dine upon it
Starting point is 00:01:24 just as I have dined upon flora and fauna can dine upon it just as i have dined upon flora and fauna throughout my life be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. This is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. To any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical.
Starting point is 00:02:26 It's political. And there is no welcome mat. This is the Douglas Adams episode. Episode 42. It's also the zombie Jesus episode. It is because we were recording just before Jesus. This is All Hallows Eve. This is before the body comes out of the grave. Right. This is All Hallows Eve. This is before the body comes out of the grave. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:46 This is All Hallows Eve, I guess. So Easter Eve would be the night that we're recording. You know, it's funny because my kid doesn't know who Jesus is or any of that nonsense. And I was thinking, how would you explain Easter to somebody who wasn't so immersed in the theology and the mythology of it? Are you worried about giving that person nightmares? I'm worried about blowing their mind up with nonsense. Well, no, I mean, think about this. You're explaining the scourging and crucifixion to a child.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Right. How do you explain that without making them fucking piss the bed at night? Well, sure, and it's like you're going to tell them, like, well, and then they kill Jesus. And they'd be like, well, wait, didn't you say he was God? Well, yeah, he's like God's kid. Like you're going to tell your kid like they killed God's kid. Right, sure. So your ass ain't fucking safe.
Starting point is 00:03:33 He's not God's kid. He's God. Right. And he's also a spirit. Right. And he's like a fucking three-in-one sale. Like, yeah, like it's like there was a three-in-one sale at the corner or something. I like that.
Starting point is 00:03:44 It's like b was a three-in-one sale at the corner or something. I like that. It's like Bogo Bogo. Yeah, they got a double Bogo on deities up in heaven. They just kept stocking up. Yeah, I got it. They had it on deities. They had it on Pringles. You know what I mean? Like they just had it on a few different things and you just stock up with your zombie Jesus,
Starting point is 00:04:03 you know? I mean, think about trying to explain that situation to somebody who's not immersed in the mythology. Oh, gosh. It would be insane. I don't know how you do it. Like, why did it take him three days? Well, I don't really know. Because he was busy the other two. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:17 He had plans. I'm not sure he was bowling. I'm not sure. What the fuck was he doing? He was mourning. Right. It was sad. It was very sad? He was mourning. Right. It was sad. It was very sad. He was melancholy those couple of days. And his omnipotent ass couldn't get motivated into fucking resurrecting his dead ass son. He had to get, he had to kill a part of himself so that he would forgive us.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Yeah, that's the thing too. It's like God died, right? I don't understand. Like he died, but then he didn't. Then he went to heaven. But where was he during those other three days? Your mythology is so confusing. He was a place, you know, for those three days when he wasn't like he didn't ascend and he wasn't.
Starting point is 00:04:52 He was just like where atheists go, right? He's just like. Let us celebrate the mystery of the Trinity. It's a mystery. Mystery because we don't understand it after 2,000 years of thinking about this bullshit. Here, eat a fucking wafer. Easter. If you believe that shit, you're fucking stupid.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I believe there's Cadbury eggs, and I will eat the fuck out of a Cadbury egg. Lamb cake? I will have a lamb cake. I always decapitate the lamb. I just, I can't help myself. That's the first move. You go for the lamb head. My wife likes Easter, so we do an Easter basket and that sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Eventually, he's going to ask a question. Why do I get an Easter basket? I'm just going to be like, I don't know. There's a bunny or something. I don't understand why Easter. Give me all your chocolate, kid. Right. Look, do you want the fucking chocolate or not?
Starting point is 00:05:51 Yeah, because I'm going to eat the fuck out of that. Have you seen your dad? Like, I will eat this shit. Don't threaten me with questions. You don't tempt Jabba the Hutt with a frog, and you don't tempt Tom with a fucking chocolate bunny. You just don't do it. Oh my God. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:06:08 This should be the second coming of cognitive dissonance. Like this should be the rising of cognitive dissonance. Oh, we've been doing it for a year or two, by the way. Right? This is an anniversary of sorts. This is like an anniversary of sorts. It's like our first, we started like the first weekend in April last year. So it's been a year.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Jackpot for us. Yay. Condolences. Where's my fucking birthday cake? Yeah. It's a lamb cake. Bring me a cake. I don't care what shape the cake is in.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Look at me. I don't care what shape I'm in. I'm here to be trained. I'm here to be trained. I'm here for an education. I'm willing, God. I'll do what you want me to do. I'll say what you want me to say. I'll say what you want me to say.
Starting point is 00:07:01 In Jesus' name. In Jesus' name. Amen. In Jesus' name, amen. So the first story we're going to go over is actually from the Friendly Atheist blog. And this is a great story. This story cracks me up. There's an image, Cecil, of the Ascension Convention.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And that couldn't be any better, right? Yeah, right. The Ascension Convention. This is perfect, yeah. And if you're ascending and you're a girl you own you have to use the elevator the science is ascension convention 2012 girls only in the elevators boys must use escalators and then there's just a picture of no men there's no men it should be like pro men i don't know. So evidently, you can't be in a closed room with a girl, even if that room is only closed to get you from one floor to another. Yeah, because you're going to lay the hump on her. Dude, that's some seriously premature ejaculation if you can get that shit accomplished between floors one and floors three.
Starting point is 00:08:01 You know what I mean? If you are an uptight fucking never-touched-it- before Christian, I guarantee you can get it off between one and three. I guarantee. Guarantee it can be done. So Hemant writes here. We had Hemant on the show before. And Hemant writes, option one, we can't have a girl and a boy and no one else in an elevator together. They would jump each other.
Starting point is 00:08:23 We all know Christians can't keep their pants on in elevators. And don't even get me started on the full elevator with multiple boys and girls. Or Jesus. I have to use that term from now on whenever I'm referring to an orgy. That's awesome. I don't do that very often. How often do they come up, really? Not very often, it turns out.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Too often. I also like, is the idea that you might look up the girl's skirt as she went up the escalator? How often do they come up, really? Not very often, it turns out. Too often, yeah. I also like, is the idea that you might look up the girl's skirt as she went up the escalator and you were like laying down on the escalator? How would you? That's an uncomfortable way to go up an escalator. And it would not be. That's a very sharp way to go up an escalator. It's hardly clandestine either. Like, what you doing?
Starting point is 00:09:05 I'm just laying down on this escalator. Yeah. You know. This isn't mirrors on the shoes sort of thing. Yeah, who doesn't lay down on escalators? It's standard practice really. It's like the most unforgiving sharp surface. It's like there is no escalator that is like a soft, nice, I could lay down and take a nap on it thing.
Starting point is 00:09:25 No. No. No. This is terrific. I love that it's the Ascension Convention. I know. It's perfect. It's perfect. That's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:09:32 So well played. I don't know why. I guess that they're just trying to keep – why do they even invite boys and girls together then? Like if they're – Why wouldn't they just have it on two days? Yeah, they're so worried about them intermingling in a private place. I mean, you're at a convention, right? Let's not fucking pretend that single people at a convention don't look for ye old hookup.
Starting point is 00:09:55 You know what I mean? Like you're there of like minds. You're at a place where you share the same fucking hobby. So suddenly you're like, hey, I'm at the Comic-Con. I'm dressed like Iron Man. Looks like I'm going to be banging fucking, I don't know, fucking Black Widow later or whatever. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:11 Like there's an intermingling of hobby here. And at this point, this is an intermingling of, you know, a very deep part of you. So you're going to be probably on the prowl looking for Mrs. Wright or Mr. Wright. Or Mrs. Available. And they have hotel rooms. So presumably they could feasibly just go back to somebody's hotel room to drop that ass. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:10:40 I don't understand why you're fucking prohibiting it in the elevators. You should be fucking chaperoning the hotel rooms. Right. I don't know. Is the idea that they're unchaperoned when traveling from one floor to another floor? Because it says boys and girls, not men and women. Yeah, yeah. So the presumption is that they don't have their own room.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Yeah, but you have a key card, motherfucker. You got a key card in 20 minutes? You have their own room. Yeah, but you have a key card, motherfucker. You've got a key card in 20 minutes, you have a teen pregnancy. That's all I'm saying. 20 minutes? Yeah, 20 minutes to get to the room and back. Tea and cake, too. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Lord, we just ask to be covered with the blood of Jesus. Open hearts, Lord. Open hearts. So this next story is from Huffington Post. And it's sort of awful. Yeah, this is not a good story. I have to go with awful. It's also incredibly bizarre.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Right. New York mom is accused of killing her daughter by feeding the little girl peanut M&Ms that she was allergic to. And she did this to send her child to heaven because the child had cerebral palsy. And she felt that her child would have a better life in heaven than she had on earth. So, you know, standard. You basically poison them with a terrible, horrible, allergic reaction that causes their throat to swell up and their airways to close and them to asphyxiate.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I mean, that's what any loving mother would do. This is the saddest story ever. And she says like in the thing that she wants to send them to heaven or whatever. And somebody on our Facebook page had a really good point. Like this is a livable disease. Like you can live with this disease. You know, you have to take care of the person. But it's not the almost unbelievable pain that you could possibly feel.
Starting point is 00:12:33 It almost feels like she just copped out, wanted to go, and took the kid for the ride. But evidently she didn't fucking, she didn't die. Although, not for fucking lack of trying, according to this article. They found her lying on the floor. Now, I'm reading directly from this Huffington Post article. The cops found her lying on the floor near her body, near her daughter's body. She had allegedly tried to kill herself with a cocktail of insulin injections and painkillers and then attempt to strangle herself with an electrical cord. She was really looking to go. She was looking to check out here, and painkillers, and then attempt to strangle herself with an electrical cord. She was really looking to go.
Starting point is 00:13:07 She was looking to check out here, and she just failed. She gave it the old college try, though. She certainly did. But she tried to kill herself after giving her daughter this thing, which, again, the person on our Facebook page said, that's kind of a shitty way to die. That's not a painless, like, honey, let me put you in the car and start it, you know, by driving in the garage sort of way. No,
Starting point is 00:13:29 it's like, you know, we're going to give you something that makes you fucking basically look like Arnold Schwarzenegger from fucking from Total Recall. Your fucking eyes all budged out and you're like gah, gah, gah, gah, gah. You know, like, that's basically what you're doing. This poor girl suffered, and then this mom just gave up.
Starting point is 00:13:48 But this is – I think the biggest part of this is that she's saying she's going to be fine in heaven and it's like, well, what if there isn't a heaven? Yeah, she says she wants to give her back to heaven. This doesn't happen without heaven, right? This doesn't happen – cerebral palsy is not – that's not an illness that, you know, is like you said, this is just somebody who didn't want to deal with it anymore. You know, but the thing is that without heaven, without the consolation of heaven, there's no justification. There's no rationalization that can take place instead what she's got is well i'll send my daughter to heaven and that's and if i believe in that why wouldn't you i mean really like if heaven is a real thing then anytime somebody dies especially
Starting point is 00:14:35 kids because like the kids are all going to heaven or whatever you know like all dogs and kids it's like it like why wouldn't you celebrate that like when my kid died and that's great because they're in eternal paradise. That's better than like the Atlantis resort. Right? It's eternal paradise. Kid can eat all the M&Ms they want up there without fear of dying. Right. It's like how was your day?
Starting point is 00:14:59 Fantastic. I'm in paradise. How's tomorrow looking? Great. Yippee. I know. It's like, what do you have to look forward to? Everything.
Starting point is 00:15:11 It's all good. You know, so if you really believe in that, it is a real and genuine consolation. You know, that's so, hey, what the fuck? Why not? Here's some M&M. Have the red one not here's some m&m have the red one delicious i think i think you should have like one of those m&m skits though where like those little walking m&ms are all going to a funeral like all those and one of them's like behind
Starting point is 00:15:37 bars is like a murderer and like shanking another dude in prison fucking m&m carved into the coffin it's like melts in your mouth, not in your hands. Like a murderous candy shell. He got like a fucking prison tattoo. He's got like the Eminem drawing, but he's got like the teardrop tattoo.
Starting point is 00:16:04 I've just sucked one year of your life away. What did this do to you? Tell me. And remember, this is for posterity, so be honest. How do you feel? In awful shit to kids news. Here we go. This is a story from Press Enterprise.
Starting point is 00:16:24 This mother goes to her pastor. All right, stop me if you've heard this one. A woman walks into a church and walks up to her pastor and says, hey, I need some advice on how to discipline my kid. And he says, no problem. Me and two other guys will take him out back, have him dig his own grave, beat him with shovels. Half bury him. Holds. Half bury him. Hold on. Half bury him.
Starting point is 00:16:48 And then pinch him with pliers. Right. What the fuck were you thinking, man? That's the worst advice ever. It's like, hold on a second. I'm looking for a way to, like, install this closet. And the guy's like, I have a solution for you. I'm going to drive my car through your house.
Starting point is 00:17:07 And you're like, no, that's a really bad idea. But no, I'm a pastor. Who did you ask for advice? Like Joe Pesci from Goodfellas? He comes over with eight heads and a fucking duffel bag. Are you kidding me? Where's the Utes? Hey, he can come over to Marissa Till May anytime.
Starting point is 00:17:27 That's all I'm saying. She's always welcome. She's welcome anytime. She's always welcome. You know, this is one of those stories that you look at these guys and you're like, so you guys terrorized a 13-year-old, made him stand in his own mock grave, hit him with a shovel, and then partially buried him. You know what they're doing is they're like, you know, you don't act right. We're going to put you in the grave.
Starting point is 00:17:55 And the kid's probably fucking bawling and traumatized and freaked out because they're making him stand in there while they're shoveling fucking dirt on him like the end of fucking Goodfellas. You know, it's just like the worst moment that this kid could possibly have. These people have been charged with torture. I mean the kid wasn't – I don't think that they really, really fucked this kid up because the kid didn't need any medical attention. So they probably didn't hurt him that bad but not physically. Right. The psychological damage though. I i mean honestly his actual death is probably going to be less traumatic exactly and less stressful i mean who would he dug his own
Starting point is 00:18:33 grave this yeah you really only do that in like a nazi movie you know what i mean that's the only time that you do that i mean he was not trying out for casino. Yeah, exactly. Guy dug his own fucking grave. And then he had to get in it. It's not like they had him... I mean, there's no way to justify this, right? What sort of disciplinary problems does this kid have where the solution is,
Starting point is 00:18:57 you know what we ought to do? Mox execution. Yeah, mox execution. That'll do it. That's what we'll do. The only thing I could think that he did was he did this to some other kid. You know what I mean? Right. Like, that's the only punishment that fits if you somehow made another 13-year-old kid dig his own grave, get in there, pinch him with pliers, hit him with a shovel and carry him, cover him up with dirt. Like, that's what this 13-year-old had to do?
Starting point is 00:19:21 This is the worst pastor ever. It's a pastor. This is the pastor. And he had to enlist two buddies to do. This is the worst pastor ever. It's a pastor. This is the pastor. And he had to enlist two buddies to do this. And how do you present that idea, right? Alright, here's what we're going to do. We're going to do a little scared straight. Alright, this kid is on the wrong path.
Starting point is 00:19:36 We want to get him back on the path to God. Now I asked myself, I prayed, got down on my knees, I said, Jesus, oh Jesus! Jesus! What shall I do with this wayward youth? And it came to me. I'll make him dig his own fucking grave and beat him with a shovel
Starting point is 00:19:52 and pitch him with some pliers. Hank, Hank. You guys in? Joe, Hank, Joe, Hank, Hank, Joe. Yeah, let's do this thing. Of course they're in. Look at these guys. Are you kidding me? I know, right? Any church that is in a strip mall next to the Rite Aid and a t-shirt shop. I don't even eat in strip malls.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Abortions for all. Very well. No abortions for anyone. Very well. No abortions for anyone. Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others. So this story is from Raw Story. So Arizona is working on a measure to ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy. But the way that some experts have read this bill,
Starting point is 00:20:51 they actually define pregnancy as immediately after your last period, which means that you could, according to this bill, have started your pregnancy two weeks prior to your conception. So that's pretty scientific. That's a nice rigid format. That seems like a good idea. That's definitely how you want to do that is to make sure that you're defining things by a date that doesn't necessarily coincide with actual conception. The thing I don't – I guess I don't understand the most about this bill is how do you check? How do you know when their last period, you have to, you have to take their word for it when they say, well, when was your last period? Um, I don't know. Or they say, well, I think it was around this date. Oh, that's the hard and fast date that we're going from at
Starting point is 00:21:39 that point. I mean, is that what we're doing? Yeah and actually i i misspoke because it's actually they start the clock um at the woman's last last menstrual period right so how do they know though they have to take her word right you'd have to ask digging in her fucking garbage they're not like oh we're gonna find the last tampon she used well in arizona don't you have to log every period of the government like isn't that you have to fill it out in triplicates. You have to just like No, I mean, they're not ridiculous. You can do that shit online as long as you upload photos. Yeah, no, you gotta use that special camera that they give to all the women.
Starting point is 00:22:15 No, but really, seriously, you gotta trust the women. So what you do is you tell all the women in Arizona to say it's the last time that I thought I was pregnant was, you know, when I found out I was pregnant was this date. You know, just try to push that date up as far as you can.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Sure. Because, you know, they're going to, they could screw you over royally. And, you know, you could get, you could wind up getting, you know, not being able to, you know, have an abortion in this, in this, in this state because of this rigid, stupid law. I don't understand why they don't just, you know, if they keep passing these laws that, that move the, the timeline further and further, why don't you just, just make it like, you know, two hours. Sure. You know, you can't have an abortion if the, you know, if it's more than two hours after conception. I mean, for fuck's sake, what's so magical about the 20 months?
Starting point is 00:23:08 Well, okay, well, why don't they just put fucking the day after pill in all our drinking water? You know what I mean? Like, that way, there's no way that, you know, anybody's going to get pregnant unless you fucking, you know, buy bottled water, I guess. What they would actually want to do is they would want to put the antidote to the day after pill. Yeah, there you go. Because they want everybody to be pregnant. They really do.
Starting point is 00:23:28 They want everybody to be pregnant. Like immediately. Because these are the same. You know, the anti-abortion nuts tend to be the same nuts who are anti-contraception. Yeah. You know, there's a strong correlation. Yeah, absolutely. So it's like, well.
Starting point is 00:23:40 And then they just tell you, like, well, you just shouldn't be having the sexy times. Yeah, Jesus loves every sperm. Every sperm is a life. He loves a lot of tissues. I'm just throwing that out there. Just like I've thrown out a lot of tissues. It's like it's always been the little women that caught the vision of giving, beginning with Jesus himself, out of their private means some of you little precious
Starting point is 00:24:09 ones have that little grocery money some of that little money set aside assure tonight the blessings of god on your family by giving it to god and speaking that. Say it, God, this is for blessings on my family. So this is a story from New York Times, although I've seen this in several other places. I love this story. There's a scandal going on in Russia over the leader of the Russian Orthodox Church. There's an image of this guy looking pretty normal, not looking totally insane or anything. There's a picture of this guy signing a something, and he's wearing
Starting point is 00:24:52 a watch. He's wearing a $30,000 watch. And evidently they thought, well, that's a little opulent. We'll just Photoshop that out. Didn't work out. Why didn't it work out, Tom? Because they got shitty shop skills, yo.
Starting point is 00:25:09 These guys shop for shit. I mean, they left in the image. This guy's got his arm resting on a glossy wooden table. Yeah. And you can see the reflection of the fucking watch clear as fucking day in this table. Right, right. But his sleeve. They chopped it off his wrist.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Yeah, but his sleeve, it's chopped off. They've covered it. They made his sleeve a little longer. So he has this black sleeve and this sort of floating ghostly watch that's inside the table. You know, maybe it's, you know, maybe that's part of the divine mystery that we're just supposed to accept. You know what I mean? Right. Look, the guy's got to know what time it is.
Starting point is 00:25:46 How does he know when the apocalypse is nigh? This guy thinks it's coming soon because he's wearing a helmet. Right. I know. He's got like a Colonel Clink hat on. I know nothing. Nothing. I actually had to look at that twice to see if that was a cross or just a spike.
Starting point is 00:26:02 It looks like a boobie. He's like a god warrior. He's got a spear. You know somewhere around him there's like a spear or a broadsword or something. Because I've used this guy in many video games before. I'm sure. I actually heard he was a Russian Orthodox power ranger. That's actually – I'm reminded of a comment
Starting point is 00:26:27 from uh british andy from a long time ago about how their police wear hats that look like pert breasts his hat looks like a teddy man this guy yeah with a nipple tassel on you know what i mean and it's kind of in full swing at this point he's got a stripper boob on his head. He totally does. He looks terrible. He looks ridiculous. The watch you said earlier, $30,000 timepiece, you know, never pretend that the best steward
Starting point is 00:26:56 of your charity dollars is the church. I mean, like, really, truly, that's just a bad idea. Only every time. It's really, they get caught in these fucking scandals constantly. A 30-thousand, can you imagine? I've seen the commercials. You can feed like 400 kids on 75 cents a day.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Yeah, no kidding, right? You know, like you can buy like 12 Thighmasters and feed a whole bunch of little brown kids on 75 cents a day according to, you know, what's her name? Suzanne Struthers. Four pieces of rice is fine for them. Oh, that's feeding them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Why do they all look so hungry? Why don't you show me some kids that look well fed in those videos? Yeah, no kidding. I don't believe you. But anyway, you can feed how many kids for $30,000? I'm going to guess more than 30. And wouldn't feeding one of those kids be better than buying this guy a watch? Yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I mean, that's easily a – that's a car money. You know what I mean? Like you spend a car money on a watch. Right. At what point is he in the jewelry store thinking, that's a good use of my resources? I don't understand that at all. I'm sorry. And he's already got the jewelry on.
Starting point is 00:28:04 He's already pimped out with his giant fucking titty hat. Everything around him is gilded. Look around him. Everything is gilded. He seemed trustworthy. I mean, even his table has a deep, rich mahogany finish. So this story is from CNN. Three people, three, killed as human sacrifices in Mexico. In the northern Mexico state of Sonora, eight people were arrested for killing two boys and a woman.
Starting point is 00:28:43 They were offered up as human sacrifices to Santa Muerta, the saint of death. At least it was the right saint. Right. They picked the right saint, the patron saint of blood sacrifice. Right. It's not a real saint, although, like, none of them are real saints. But this one is even less a real saint than the other ones because this one isn't, I guess, recognized by the church. Although, to be honest, it probably should be.
Starting point is 00:29:09 I love the name, though. I mean, like, I don't have a badass name. Santa Muerte. I fucking love that shit. Really? Two 10-year-old boys and a woman killed as blood sacrifices? I mean, were they like, Kalima!
Starting point is 00:29:24 Shut the day! Kalima! Shakti! Kalima! Like, really? You're doing fucking Catholic church wrong, I think. You know, if you're blood sacrificing something. This isn't the church anymore. This is something else. It's another fucking, you know, kookball fucking religion that you've mashed up with your other religion.
Starting point is 00:29:45 So you've made up this saint. You know, all the saints are made up, but, you know, I mean, well, they're not, you know, they existed. Saints, obviously there's some, some people that they consider saints existed, but some didn't. And, you know, obviously a lot of the stories are fucking made up, but in this particular case, this is just a completely fabricated thing that they're now you know it's almost like santa ria or something like because you can expect there to be like
Starting point is 00:30:10 fucking it's like voodoo mixed with fucking nuttiness and fucking rubbing fucking chicken guts on your face and like like all these people are all wacky and they go like and then this is the final step like this is this is the final step where you're just fucking you know you've checked out of the human race at this point when you're killing people for a blood sacrifice. Isn't your foreskin enough blood sacrifice? I mean you've already cut off part of your genitals for God. Right. And you're thinking at some point it crosses your mind, good. Could be better. could be better.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Could be better. Well, you gave that to God. You've got to give something to Santa Muerte. Right. And how is this guy – like, you know, OK. So if they beatify or canonize, I don't know which one. Would it be a girl with Santa? Like Santa Muerte comes down your chimney. You're like, Santa. Oh, fuck. Santa Muerte. down your chimney. You're like, Santa!
Starting point is 00:31:05 Oh, fuck! Santa Muerte! Oh, it's the worst Santa! Get your sickle out of here. You've got a giant sickle. You're attacking everyone. Oh, God. You should see what he did to the family dog.
Starting point is 00:31:17 It's not a cup of milk, though. You've got to leave something else. Another liquid. Yeah, right. Yeah, instead of cookies, it's just like, yeah, I left him a shot glass of blood. Shot glass. Yeah, just a little shooter for Santa just like, yeah, I left him a shot glass of blood. Shot glass. Yeah, just a little shooter for Santa Muerte.
Starting point is 00:31:29 You don't want him to get full. He's got lots of houses to visit. Oh, no. Worst Christmas ever. Here comes Santa Muerte. Oh, no. Oh, write down bloodbath later. It's terrible.
Starting point is 00:31:48 I was wondering why Rudolph's nose was red. He's rooting around in child blood again. So we're going to take a break and give you all the information that you need to find us on Facebook, on Twitter, occasionally maybe on Google+. Maybe if I get around to it also, we'll give you the information you need to leave us voicemails and hate mails and all the various mails. And we'll be right back after the break. You can email these assholes at dissonance.podcast at gmail.com. For more information on this or any other episode, visit the cognitive dissonance website,
Starting point is 00:32:23 dissonancepod.com. Like our show on Facebook to join in the conversation. Just search for Cognitive Dissonance on Facebook or go to our website for the link. You can converse with us on Twitter. Our Twitter handle is at dissonance underscore pod. Help us out by retweeting and reposting our shows. You can call us and leave us a message at 740-74-DOUBT. That's 740-743-6828. Long distance rates apply. Your help is fucking greatly appreciated. So this next story, this is from Star Tribune. This is from the Twin Cities. This is actually pretty awesome, St. Paul, Minneapolis area. So a local school decided to have a representative from the archdiocese talk. They came in and they gave a talk about family and marriage.
Starting point is 00:33:13 And part of the talk involved basically belittling and marginalizing families that were anything but the sort of normalized nuclear family allowed by and associated with the church. So they were bagging on adopted families, single-parent families, and, of course, everybody's favorite whipping boy, same-sex families. And the students didn't take to it. Yeah, they wound up— it's funny, Tom, because they wound up only inviting the seniors, right? Because there's a possibility
Starting point is 00:33:49 they could vote, and then they come in and they have this platform that is clearly a political platform, right? Your platform is based on how you want people to vote, and you're going to give them this sort of lecture. And the students didn't take it at all.
Starting point is 00:34:05 A lot of students were upset, mad. Some students left and were like crying. Some were crying. One student actually held up a sign that said, I love my two moms, which is awesome. Yeah, it is. But, you know, what you want to say is like, okay, fine. I know I realize you guys are fucking anti-gay. I realize that.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Everybody should fucking realize that. And I really think if you're a Catholic and these people are anti-gay in your area, you need to get somewhere, you need to go somewhere else where your religion, they don't try to dip that into your religion because there's plenty of Catholics out there
Starting point is 00:34:38 that don't agree with this. There's plenty of them. So you need to just boycott your area's group and just try to work with somebody else if your faith is important to you. That's first off. That's what I would say to any Catholic that is pissed off when their archbishop or whoever this guy is comes in and says gays are bad. But let's just for a moment think about the adopted family. The adopted family?
Starting point is 00:35:02 You're going to fucking bag on the adopted family? You know, what kind of sick fuck are you to say that that's not a good thing? You know, you're the fucking reason why, you're one of the major reasons why there's no contraception for people who don't want it. You're against contraception inherently, and you're also against abortion. So the people who wind up getting, you know, that believe in what you preach, they have the kid. And if they don't want it, you encourage them to put it up for adoption. So fucking, you're basically fucking, you got a fucking warehouse full of babies and you're pissed off and you don't want them to have them.
Starting point is 00:35:39 What are you, an asshole? What the fuck is wrong with you? There's so many reasons that a family might be different than the average family. Right. You know, and whether you want to, you know, no matter what kind of values you want to espouse, you know, mom and dad get in a car wreck and fucking die. Nobody did anything. Even if you buy into this bullshit fucking Stone Age goddamn morality. Right. Like, even if you buy into that mom and dad get killed
Starting point is 00:36:05 in a car wreck okay now the kid's an orphan now he's got to get adopted well really now you're gonna that's not you're gonna say that that's not a normal family and anything less than normal is less than we're single parents like you know the idea that you know there's a sort of idea that you know single parenthood well you know, the idea that, you know, there's this sort of idea that, you know, single parenthood. Well, you know, that clearly means that there was something going on, that this is, you know, a suspect family. What if somebody, like, what if somebody just has a heart attack? What if somebody's, I don't know, serving in the fucking military? What if they get raped?
Starting point is 00:36:38 And gets killed in the military? What if they get raped, Tom? Right. Fucking that dude ain't nowhere to be found. And you're going to fucking convince that person to have that baby. Oh, but it's okay because they're less than. Yeah, and now we'll just, we'll double stigma. It's a double stigma.
Starting point is 00:36:51 You know, we get to shut them because they were raped and now we get to shut them because they're less than a regular family. So, you know, it's just like a, you know, it's a twofer, you know. Yeah, it's a double win. We got to visit the sins of the mother on the child. So we feel good.
Starting point is 00:37:06 We feel good about that. And that's even if you buy into all those stupid bullshit morality police nonsense that would say that any of those normal courses of human events that often make adopted families happen or single parent households a reality. make adopted families happen or single parent households a reality. You know, even if you buy into all that bullshit, there are so many circumstances where that can occur where there was no moral infraction to your ridiculous, generic motherfucking code of nonsense. So that's such an offensive. And I love that the students didn't tolerate. I like it, too.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Yeah, that's what should happen. These guys should go places and be like, well, let me tell you how it should be. And everybody should stand up and be like, no, you're just wrong. You are not a voice of moral authority anymore. I just don't understand like specifically the gay marriage thing. I really – it just fucking boggles my mind how you could possibly think that there's some sort of victim. I mean, it's two consenting adults. Nobody's injured.
Starting point is 00:38:09 There's no way that anybody could be injured by me marrying somebody else, and you're going to be the person who calls it a moral choice? There's no morals there. It's not a moral decision. It's a fucking just – it's just a decision. It affects no one else but the person who i'm with it really somebody got upset about the location of a pp or fucking ridiculous right god well no i mean look i gps track my general absolutely me too that way i can post online
Starting point is 00:38:40 where they've been they got a little they got a little tracking collar on them. It's very little, actually. It's very small, actually. It's more of a tracking thimble. It's not like an ankle bracelet. I mean, let's not get crazy here. It's more like a finger cot. It's like a
Starting point is 00:38:59 thimble. Thimble-sized. Hollowed out. Thimble or a small washer. But satellite technology is amazing and so is nanotech so i mean it's really it's the top of the line so speaking of the moral authority of the church right a priest uh now this was in ireland um a catholic priest was uh going through a presentation. He was a technologically advanced sort of a guy. He had the whole laptop out and the
Starting point is 00:39:30 projector and he was going through a PowerPoint presentation. And some images popped up that he seemed surprised by. So he did the only rational thing and ran away. He just left the room. He just ran away. I love that part of the story. I love it. Because his porn showed up. He just ran away. I love that part of the story. Oh, I love it. Because his
Starting point is 00:39:45 porn showed up. He had his little memory stick out. You know, like, really, you've got to be a better steward of your porn, I think. Just to have a memory stick. You know, like, can't you just label it, like, to prawns
Starting point is 00:40:02 and just, I mean, they're fucking $16 now. You can go to the store, buy yourself a black one and that's the bad one. And then buy yourself a white one and that's where you keep your please donate money to my church PowerPoint. That's what – I would make a separation, a clear separation. No, Cecil. I've used PowerPoint. You have to drag and drop images into the slides.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah, I think he was looking for his presentation and what happened. No, I mean this is awesome. Maybe this is it. Because he's looking in a file and he probably had it set so that the thumbnails pop up. Yeah. And there's fucking some guy going balls deep in somebody. And he's like, eek! And he shrieks and he lifts up his little skirts and he runs out of the room.
Starting point is 00:40:50 And I just think here's the thing. You're going to come down on everybody else about, oh, you should have a fucking single family. Single families are bad. Gays are bad. All this sexually deviant shit is bad. But you're cool with porn. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:09 You lost your moral authority card. Please turn that shit in at the door. This guy, I just love so much that he ran away. Yeah. Because that's – I mean that's the mature way to deal with a problem. Sure. It's just to run. You shriek and run.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Out of the room. He had to shriek. He had to shriek. I mean that's how I envisioned it. I like your comment online that he mixed up his laptop and his fap top. His fap top. I think fap is a funny word. I don't know what it is about that word.
Starting point is 00:41:36 It makes me laugh a lot. I'm also a little baffled, to be honest, as to who's saving images. Yeah, that's interesting. They're always accessible online. It's not like they're going to go away. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, man, I found a website that has naked ladies on it. Yeah, no kidding, right?
Starting point is 00:41:52 Quick, hit save. What? What? Who saves their porn? The naked ladies will be there next week, bro. What is going on with you? That's why you have an internet, right? Man, I got to make sure I have my Jerk It material with me at all times, regardless of my ability to get on Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Jesus, man. The only way that's handy is if you're sitting somebody somewhere with your laptop and the inclination to jerk it and no Wi-Fi connection. Yeah. What the fuck? Maybe he just can't afford the Wi-Fi connection. Maybe they don't have it in their rectory.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Donald Trump often appears on Fox, which is ironic because a fox often appears on Donald Trump's head. Donald Trump. Donald Trump. Donald Trump. The oompa loompa of real estate fame. This is from Raw Story.
Starting point is 00:42:56 He warned Fox viewers, the most educated viewers, that autism is caused by vaccines. Viewers that autism is caused by vaccines. So if you are a double whammy idiot, you get your news from Fox. Right. And you consider Trump to be a trustworthy spokesperson for medical advice. What's more likely is you've had the unfortunate experience of losing the controller while Trump was on the screen, because I cannot imagine somebody going out of their way to listen to what this douchebag has to say. I would go out of my way to, I would fucking clog mud up in my ears to get his voice.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I would go in there with Q-tips as deep as you can go. I'll stick gravel. I'll peel bubble gum off the fucking bottom of a table in a public restaurant. I'll drown myself to unconsciousness. Seriously. And what does he say in here, Tom? What he says is he's just like, well, I just think that there's been a lot of cases that have been reported lately where the most ever have been reported recently. And so there's got to be something. And you're like, OK, well, that's the argument from ignorance because you're saying, well,
Starting point is 00:44:06 I don't know what it is, but therefore it's vaccine. So first off, it's like completely fucking you're blowing it right out your ass. But that doesn't take into account. And it completely misses the point that autism may be. And I don't know if this is true or not. I'm just it's just a fucking option that they may just have different diagnoses to find out whether or not your kid's autistic nowadays. I mean that's supposed to – from what I've read, that accounts for a lot of the increase in autism.
Starting point is 00:44:33 It's like we know more about autism. We screened for it earlier. That's – when you start screening for new diseases or new disorders at an earlier age, you're going to find more instances of that disorder. That's just how that works. I love, too, that he was challenged on it, even on Fox. I know. These people are like, look, man.
Starting point is 00:44:56 This guy said, you know that most physicians disagree with that, and the studies say there is no link. It used to be thought it was mercury in the vaccinations, which they've not had for years. there is no link. It used to be thought it was mercury in the vaccinations, which they've not had for years. And later in the article, it says nearly 20 studies in recent years,
Starting point is 00:45:10 including one from the CDC, have found no link between autism and vaccines. And in fact, the CDC found that children who developed autism spectrum disorder had less exposure to vaccines that contained mercury. So it's like, that's not, that's a settled question. And this guy is going to show up on Fox News and be like, well, I've got a medical opinion. Like, really?
Starting point is 00:45:34 This guy's an idiot. And, you know, Tom, the worst fucking, the biggest fucking sin of this, if I can use that word, is that this makes people think that it's settled. This gives people the opinion to say, well, we know where that autism stuff is coming from. Right. And there's no, now there's no dollars going to it from certain people who are going to say, well, there's autism research. I'd really like to support that autism research to find out where it actually fucking comes
Starting point is 00:46:01 from so we can either figure out what the fuck is wrong or just learn to deal with it in a different way or whatever it is that causes this thing. But instead it's like, well, I'm fucking, I brush my hands off. I've figured it all out. I know exactly where it comes from. So who cares? You know what I mean? Like now we've got to start thinking about vaccines in different ways because you've figured it out, which no study has shown. It's like a double whammy. It's pulling fucking autism dollars out of the pot. At the same time, it's telling people that fucking vaccines aren't all that they're stacked up to be.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Vaccines fucking save so many lives. It's ridiculous. What the fuck is wrong with people when they see, you know, 20 studies doesn't fucking coming up, but people still believe it. They're like, oh, well, it's big pharma. Well, you're an idiot. You're just not looking at the fucking evidence. You're just fucking head up your own ass. It's totally irresponsible to just decide that one thing causes another thing. And then to broadcast that. Especially if the thing you're saying causes the problem
Starting point is 00:47:08 is a life-saving medical treatment, which is what vaccines are. My wife right now, right now, has influenza. Like, genuine influenza. You know, I don't have that right now. Do you know why? Because I got the flu shot!
Starting point is 00:47:29 I got a vaccine for it i will get that vaccine next year too i will keep getting it because i don't want influenza so people are going to go around getting diseases so they can avoid, which this doesn't cause. Because Donald Trump said so. The man can't manage his hair. I just pray over this equipment. We speak over the PowerPoint presentations, all of the video projectors. And we say, devil, we know what you love to do in meetings like this. And we say you will not, not in Jesus name, you will not
Starting point is 00:48:06 prevent this message from going out no microphone problems in Jesus name so Cecil it's teen girl squad time it is teen girl squad teen girl squad I wonder if they got, they used teen girl exorcism squad
Starting point is 00:48:22 I wonder if they paid any royalties to Homestar Runner off that. You're blatantly stealing from fucking Homestar here. If they didn't, they should have. They should have. This shit is spectacular. It's basically a story about three teen girls who claim to purge demons from people through exorcism. Purging demons.
Starting point is 00:48:44 You know, so if you got demons and you want to hang out with young girls. Yeah. There's perks. You can always call the Teen Girl Exorcism Squad. This story is such a non-story. The only reason this story exists
Starting point is 00:49:00 as a story is because they're photogenic. That is the only reason that this exists. It's such utter nonsense. And the way that it's filmed is like, they've got like this, like here's like the beauty queen ninja turned exorcism squad leader. And they call her the enforcer.
Starting point is 00:49:20 What does she enforce? God's rules. She enforces that fucking cross on your head and they're gonna make like these chicks are gonna get their own reality show oh my god are you fucking serious there's no reality involved dude there's a great part of this video though i will say where they got this fucking this woman who has dined on several cheeseburgers and she's she's getting held back. And the guy, the reporter kind of sounds like surprised at one point.
Starting point is 00:49:50 He's like, look at this. It takes four men to hold her back. I'm like, yeah, it takes four men to fucking lasso a fucking cattle too, motherfucker. Like that's a big ass woman. Like no kidding. She's got a lot of weight to throw around. No wonder why there's fucking, they're struggling holding her back. And the best part is listening to these people when they're like, get out of there, demon.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Like, no! You're like, oh my god, are you fucking serious? Are you fucking Yahoo fucking serious? These people absolutely, they actually believe that they're infected with demons. And this one dude is just like, so there could be a demon in me now? And this asshole, who's actually a famous evangelist, Bob Larson, is this famous evangelist. And he's like, oh, yeah, there's demons. There could be a demon in you right now.
Starting point is 00:50:36 And she's like, and you're going to pass around the collection plate real soon. Exactly. I think the most telling part of the article is where they say, well, they charge for it. They're not going around exercising people for free. They charge for their exorcism services. And they say it takes more than one visit. So, I mean, they've got a scheme here. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:51:00 They've got a scheme. And it's like, well, okay, you guys are going to show up and you're going to find mentally ill people who need legitimate fucking help. And you're going to basically placebo them. And maybe it works for a little while because placebos are powerful. Placebos work, but they don't last for very long. So then you're going to feel fucking crazy some more because you're mentally ill and you need legitimate psychiatric help. But you felt good last time, so you call the teen girl squad. And the teen girl squad shows up and you write them a check.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Wash, rinse, repeat. Right. And people are going to get rich off of the vulnerable people in society who believe that there's fucking demons. And she names some of the demons like, well, there's demons like anger and murder and hate and jealousy. Those are powerful demons. It's like, no, those are emotions. And one of them is an action. One of them is an action.
Starting point is 00:51:58 But that's fine. You know, there's also demons called cheeseburger and fucking Coffee Press. You know what I mean? You're just going to start naming the shit in your room? It's like fucking ridiculous. Coffee Press the demon. It's like Coffee Press the demon. You got to press it out.
Starting point is 00:52:15 I just think part of me thinks, though, when I hear these people doing it and they're, you know, the old lady is like shaking her head and, you know, she's looking at the woman. She's like, get away from me or whatever, you know. And you're like, you're like, you're a fucking faker. You're a faker. You're lying to me, you fucker. You know, like there's no way there's I mean, well, there obviously there's no way there's a demon in you. But I don't even believe that you believe it at a certain. See, I don't know, because, you know, once you get the the myth of popular culture involved, because, you know, I think it's telling that all of these things look like we expect them to look.
Starting point is 00:52:50 They look like the movies tell us the shit looks. But I think you get people who are genuinely mentally ill and I think that their ability to fabricate a reality that they believe – I think that's a powerfully real thing that people can go through. But these people aren't getting helped. They're not getting any kind of legitimate help through this process at all. They're getting fleeced. They're getting money taken from them. Get out.
Starting point is 00:53:16 No. There's a good continental breakfast in the morning. The demons are just, ah, it's comfortable. There's king-sized bed and fluffy pillows. Fuck you. I'm napping on her bladder. It's a waterbed. I don't – this is just – this is a cynical fucking way.
Starting point is 00:53:34 You know who I don't believe is these three teen girls. So we got a little bit of email this time we want to talk about. The first one we got was from Henry, and Henry asked us, he said one of us, he says he recalls that one of us was religious. If you could go back in time and debate your former religious self, what would you say and how would you think you would have responded back then? I had some debates when I was religious with people who weren't religious. debates when I was religious with people who weren't religious. And I didn't really, it wasn't really one of those things that I felt super strongly about either way at a certain point in my life. I was kind of just, when I was debating people that were religious and I, or that weren't religious and I was, I didn't really have anything I think that I could have
Starting point is 00:54:17 said that would have maybe changed my mind. And I really didn't have a lot to say to those people and didn't really think about kind of their position. I was pretty dumb. I mean I'm going to come right out and just say I was a dumb person. But I've grown. I've grown to be more critical of myself as well as critical of the world. And I think that sometimes you just got to give people room to grow and I just had plenty of time to grow. So that's why I'm where I'm at.
Starting point is 00:54:46 I don't know that there would have been one magic bullet that I could have said that would have changed my mind. Yeah, you know what occurred to me was when I was a kid, whenever I would get in trouble, my dad would make me write essays about it. Like I would do something. He'd be like, yeah, well, you know why that's wrong, don't you? I'd be like, yeah, I know why that's wrong. He'd be like, all right, well, I want three pages. Write me three you know you know why that's wrong don't you like yeah i know that's right like all right well i want three pages write me write me three pages about tell me why it's wrong and i'd have to sit there and write a fucking essay about why the thing i just got in trouble for doing was the bad and it was just a it was a disciplinary measure
Starting point is 00:55:17 that he did but i think i think it would almost be useful as an exercise to be like all right well you know you're you're religious i want you to tell me why this one is right and this one is wrong. And then I want you to write that same essay in reverse. Wow, yeah. And I think if you can do that and be honest with yourself, you're going to come away with some doubts. We got into a Twitter conversation and an email conversation with a person by the name of Michael. Michael Wilson, who is from New Zealand, and he is making a movie. And the movie he's making, he's trying to raise some funds and trying to get some free labor from people to donate their labor so that he can put together promotional materials.
Starting point is 00:56:01 And I'm sure he's going to be searching for other stuff later on when he gets tape and whatnot. He's trying to make this movie called God is incredible. And he's focusing on incredible being not credible. So, uh, so he's got a, he's got a really interesting plan. Many of you people know, um, Michael as at godless, godless atheist. He's on Twitter. He's got like over 9,000 followers at this point. And he's one of these guys that's really funny. He goes out whenever anybody mentions atheist,
Starting point is 00:56:34 he goes and like kind of insults people who say stupid shit. So like the latest thing that just happened seven minutes ago, somebody put and I'm not a fucking atheist. And he put an arrow and said, I know I hate it when those morons misspell it because the person just spelled atheist. So he's kind of one of these guys who needles people.
Starting point is 00:56:53 So he's a really funny person to follow on Twitter. And he's got a lot of Twitter followers. So because I think everybody has searched for both godless and or atheist. It's a clever name to go with. Found this guy. Twitter. But he's putting a movie together. And so we're going to put up the links for this on our blog.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Take a look at it. He's looking for some donations to get the movie started. And he's also looking for some help in the, I guess, in the way of advertising materials now. But I don't know if that's going to change later on. But just basically looking for people to chip in on a project. So if you're interested, come to our site, click on his links and go there and take a look at the stuff. But we're hoping that eventually when he gets this project started and on the road, we're going to have him on our show.
Starting point is 00:57:40 But he was a very nice guy to talk to via email, and we're happy to plug his project. Um, but he was a very nice guy to talk to via email and we were happy to plug his project. So we got an email from Andrew and, uh, and Andrew says that he hadn't written it, written us for a while. Um, it sounds like he's having a bad time, but we hope everything gets better here, Andrew. Um, but he did say that, uh, that he got an immediate wire funds, transfer of wire funds with interest of $20 million from somebody with a telephone number on it. And he says, you guys should call this. I would like to bring people's attention to a great website called 419 Eater where people do this exact thing.
Starting point is 00:58:14 They go after these scammers and they get them to do crazy shit. And it's delightfully mean and ridiculously funny. I have laughed until I was sore. Till I was crying and my face muscles hurt from reading the stories. One of these guys, Shiver Me Timbers, he calls himself. Yeah, Shiver Me Timbers is awesome. He gets people, you know, like these
Starting point is 00:58:38 419 scammers, he gets them to send him original artwork and carve Wallace and Gromit into pieces of wood. And like, yeah, he makes them do this sketch for about the dead parrot with from from Monty Python. He does the dead parrot sketch so they could get into art school at one point. Oh, it's so funny. Their whole goal.
Starting point is 00:58:58 And I think this is brilliant, Tom, is they make it so that they're they're doing these crazy things to try to get this little bit of money. And he's stopping them from scamming other people while he's keeping them busy, which I think is really smart. He's also gotten them to tattoo themselves. Yeah. Which is delightful. These guys are getting these fucking backwoods tattoos. Oh, I love it. It's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:59:18 But it's delightfully mean and very funny. I love it. So if you get a chance, take a look at it. It's 419 Eater. You could just Google that, and it'll take you to it. And it's all these people on this forum go after these people who do this online scamming. And it's very funny. So take a look at it, Andrew.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I'm sure you'll like it. So we got a Google Voice. The Google Voice came in this week. We're going to play the audio now. There were some problems with the audio, and I'm just warning you ahead of time. It's only like a minute and a half long. But you guys may experience when you're listening some blowing out of the audio. That's basically on this Google Voice.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Somehow the audio in the voice was not good. So you may experience some kind of crazy sound in this. But we want to play it because somebody took the time to call in. So here's the Google voice. nice balance. So I started listening to some of your old episodes. And one that really got under my skin was the spare the rod, spoil the child. Because about twice a year we drive a highway in Illinois that has a sign by the side of the highway that says just that,
Starting point is 01:00:37 for spare the rod, spoil the child. And I think it's actually two signs that sort of read as you drive by. But no matter, I see that sign every time. And it just chills two signs, sort of read as you drive by, but no matter. I see that sign every time, and it just kills me because, you know, an atheist can't put up a sign to say, hey, we're atheists and we're not going to kill you. You know, but this guy can put up a sign that says, you're children. I do.
Starting point is 01:00:59 You know, it's great. And so I started wondering, what the heck is this guy's motivation for this? And so I started wondering, what the heck is this guy's motivation for this? Why wouldn't you put up, you know, love thy neighbor or turn the other cheek? Something positive, something, you know, for your children. And I realized, which, you know, is obvious, they don't really believe it either. I mean, they're into telling, it's like, all right, let's I'll tell him. I'll say, it doesn't feel right, man. It doesn't feel right.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Maybe if I get everybody to do it, I'll feel better about it. Maybe if everybody agrees with me, I'll feel better about it. Well, I don't think it's harder to do. I just want to say I love your show. It's great fun. Keep it up. I'll your show. It's great fun. Keep it up. I'll be listening. And, Tom, here's what Google thinks it said.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Google Voice Translator says, I need to pick up. Just got turned on your show. I guess I got lap dogs first. So, really, are you? It's really good alternative something more serious. It shows after I sell it. This is your old, up soon, yeah, one is really gotta E, Raj, with trial. I love it.
Starting point is 01:02:12 That's about what your we drive by. We, it looked like, okay, but I thought I'd wait. I was just that first pair, Rod Spoiled Child, and thank you, bye. So I'd appreciate it all right bye no matter peter i suggest she is anyway you spent say hey work if you have to work all right later so you you know what the fact that the sites that your children i do you know it's great. Ten. I was just wondering, okay? Just ask for the patient. Okay, bye. Oh, you know what buying paper for the something?
Starting point is 01:02:50 I was just something to be your job, and I realized which I was. I was just I don't believe it in I'll be an eight Stella. All right, six. Okay, bye. If you write and just all right. Thank you. Get everybody to do it all. better about doug peace feel better about it well i'll take mark bye the butt i just thought i'd let you know how great but keep it up talk to you later i love that repeating bye. It's crazy. It's like a beat poem. It's fucking
Starting point is 01:03:25 awesome. It really does. It's fucking awesome. I do want to say thank you for listening to the show. Thanks for digging around in the archives. And that's an interesting point you make about the person sort of justifying their own conflicted feelings by putting something out into the world, because
Starting point is 01:03:41 that's what Tom and I do every week with the podcast. It's nice that you think I still have feelings. We got another Trevon Martin email. This one was from James. Let's see here. James is very frustrated. He's a very, very angry young man. And he says to us, he says, you know, like, people keep
Starting point is 01:04:05 saying it'll all get worked out in court. He's like, the whole thing is about the fact that Zimmerman wasn't ever charged. If he had been charged, even if he were acquitted, even if the whole case was thrown out, then Trevon Martin would have just been one more of the countless
Starting point is 01:04:21 anonymous black youths killed by guns every year in this country. And that's true. He hasn't been, you know, there's nothing happening. And so, so, uh, there's people that keep sending us stuff about this. We got something this week from somebody who said, you know, Oh, there was eyewitness testimony now that's coming out and it's like, okay, that's great. But again, we're never going to get a chance to see this, to have its day in court. We think the law is fucked up. It's just how we feel. If you feel differently, that's great.
Starting point is 01:04:48 That means you're using your brain thinking. Yeah, there's no way to get behind that law, I don't think, regardless. So we hope you enjoyed the delicious candy-filled center that is this episode. Full of wonderful with wonderful wonderful delicious candy that you can't experience and we hope you come back next week to catch us. We will leave you as always with the Skeptic's Creed.
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