Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 454: Magnum Opus

Episode Date: January 28, 2019

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I am an enlisted personnel in the Coast Guard, and I love not getting paid. The best part is the third line civilians, they get to go find another job after three months where the enlisted personnel have to stay working for the entire duration of their contract, which is wonderful. So I got another three years of not getting paid. That'll be fun. The worst part is I'm stuck in Louisiana, and I can't leave, and I still have to work without getting paid.

Wonderful. Love the show. Thanks. Bye. Hey, guys. You were talking about Kristen Sinema swearing in on a law book instead of a Bible and talking about how that might be the damn opening. Well, unfortunately, I got to piss on your parade of rationality a bit,

because there's also kind of a trend in the opposite direction at the other end, because Ohio's new governor, Mike DeWine, had his wife hold a stack of seven Bibles on which he swore himself in, because I guess it was just a bit too much effort to etch the words virtue signaling into his fucking glasses. So on that depressing note, I'll let you stick that in your glory hole. Cecil, Tom, mostly Tom. Just want to let you know,

it's pronounced mores when we're talking about, you know, unwritten societal rules that one might break. You keep saying mores. You probably are doing it on purpose. But just, you know, Mark from St. Louis, his eye twitches a little bit every time you say Moore's, sexual Moore's. I just can't help but think of Samuel Jackson in Othello. Anyhow, maybe not.

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So, America. So, maybe, guys... If you're American of everything that you have inside your body. So America. So maybe guys, if you're American, you should go to our website and buy the box shirt. Now I'm just saying, I've seen the audience. I've met a lot of you guys. You see like the one guy who's got this, he's got the triple X and it's literally a sale for a pirate ship. Come on. The thing's so huge.

The biggest shirt before I lost weight, I was rocking a regular double X all the time. I was a double X. I'm a double X myself. All the time. Yeah, I'm a double X myself. No, I'm not. I'm a single X.

I'm a single X. I would take my double X, and I'd put my arms in it, and I'd kind of go, and kind of give it a little stretch, you know? A little stretchy stretch. Because I was ashamed to buy a triple X. But maybe the double X could give a little, you know?

You needed a triple? I like a loose shirt. You like a loose. You know, when you're moobs. The thing is, is the moobs should carry it. I was lactating at the time. They should carry it over the rest of it. And it should flow.

It should flow from the moobs. Right, right. I rock a single X, and it's because of my height. Yeah, you're a million feet tall. Like, I can't do it because of like, like, what I love

is one of those when they, when they actually have tall shirts. I love tall shirts when they sell like, That's so funny because I buy, like when I buy

like a suit jacket or whatever, it's like a 44 or 45 S like shit. Like the stumpy T-Rex arms. I'll take a 44 stumpy. What do you have? Because otherwise it's like I 44 or 45 S like shit. Like the stumpy T-Rex arms. I'll take a 44 stumpy. What do you have? Otherwise it's like,

I put it on. It's like, you're putting on your dad's clothes. Like the sleeves, like come out to like your fucking thumb. I'll take a, can you tailor in seven inches? Can I have a 40,

42 amputee? I gotta, I gotta tailor it like one black dick. Fold in like. Can you just like take a vest and put two magnum condoms as the arm? I mean, the only time a magnum condom would be appropriate. I can't even. My fist is swimming in there.

Are you kidding me? What is a sleeping bag for? It's like one of those wind socks on a fucking on one of those it's like a weather vane with a wind sock on it's just spinning around you gotta roll that thing you gotta invite a friend what do you need that for

Jesus it's like one of those you know like when they make those giant bubbles it's like a big giant bubble. You're like, what is that? I got nobody. I mean, like, this isn't a three-legged race. Like, what are we doing?

Okay, I got you. It's like the sack race. You're like jumping over. Honey, I'm coming to get you. Both your legs are in the Magnum condom. Like, these socks are squishy. These socks. My feet are so cold in these.

These aren't even good. These are cold weather socks. These are not my no-show rubbers. And weirdly, my feet have shrunk a little. I don't know why. They've actually gone into my torso. You walk in, you're like that Dorf guy from a long time ago that used to be on his knees. You remember Tim Conway used to do this bit called Dorf where he would sit on his knees and he had pants that looked like.

Oh, yeah. And he'd lean back. You walk into the kitchen, you look like Dorf. You're like, honey, these new socks aren't working. These galoshes are... I found them on the bed. I thought you bought them for me.

I didn't know. All right, see, so we would be remiss if we didn't... You know, I've been hesitant to talk a whole lot about the shutdown because it could be ending at any moment. Any moment. But it is not.

You know what? Fuck it. This show's recording on Thursday. Three days in. Here we are. The show's recording on Thursday, and I have a high degree of confidence that when this show releases on Monday. Oh, yeah, they all went home for the weekend.

Yeah, those guys all got into their really expensive helicopters. degree of confidence that when the show releases on Monday. Oh yeah. They all went home for the weekend. Yeah. Those guys all got into their really expensive helicopters. Fuck you. So one thing that I love that's happening right now. So like Trump is in a showdown with Nancy Pelosi and like George W. Bush gave this a whirl in his second term. Remember when he was going to privatize social security and Pelosi was like the world doesn't remember

no and he was like cowboy and she's like no and you know what we don't have private the back end of this presidency trump facing off in a fucking dick match with nancy pelosi oh my god she is gonna slap him black and blue with her dick

all day long he is going to be holding his knees and rocking back and forth in the shower he's gonna need one of those silkwood baths where they just rub him with a fucking brush. He's going to be like, Nancy Pelosi. He's going to like constantly just be repeating her name over and over. I saw Schumer today

on the floor. He was arguing with this guy, a Republican from Wisconsin. I don't know who it was, but a senator from Wisconsin. A cheese. They're arguing with him. He's got a cheese hat

on a farm jersey. But he's arguing and he's like, he said, I put forth this bill to pay our Coast Guard. Let's pay our Coast Guard. Let's just get our Coast Guard paid. And is there any objections? And immediately Schumer's like, I object. And then they ask,

well, why do you object this thing? And he said, well, if we're just going to start picking and choosing pet programs that we want to pay, he's like, everybody needs money. Yeah. Everybody needs to get paid. Everybody's out of work. There's 740,000 people that aren't Coast Guard that aren't going to get a paycheck.

Right. So you should probably, we should probably come to an agreement on this. And the guy goes, they go back to the guy and the guy says, oh, well, yeah, the president won't sign anything. So I guess we're not doing anything. And you're just like, well, maybe get shit fucking ready in your house. Figure it out. Amazing is to pass a series of bills that in aggregate

cover all of these people. You just keep passing over and over. Okay, who votes Coast Guard? Everybody. Okay, now TSA like seven hours later is like, all right, how many people are still left uncovered? All right. We're going to... I was just going to say, let's vote for Bill.

Anybody? All opposed to Bill? Bill, Bill. Boo. And then it just turned out it's Bill's wife. Like, what the fuck? I just... You know, I never liked that guy.

Fuck him. That happens to me all the time. Bill's wife hates me. But yeah, just like, you know, like, I understand that we want to pay people that are, you know, the Coast Guard's an important thing to somebody. I don't know who, but they do stuff, I guess. I don't know what they do, but they do stuff.

I guess if you need a lifeguard in the lake or something. I don't know. But I mean, clearly they, and they also, I know for sure that the Coast Guard is one of the people who helps prevent, you know, drugs from getting in the country. No, no, they don't prevent forest fires. Do they not? We fired all those people. I know.

I think we actually lit them on fire. Well, we don't prevent the forest fires. That's self-evident. We just let them out there and say, hey, why don't you just stay out in the forest? Yeah, but, but, you know. Is it Mexicans that do that? But seriously, like, like we need to, a Mexican to do that? But seriously, like, we need to, there needs to be some sort of plan.

And there's been nothing. And so what happened is, is Trump had a little pissing match, like you said, with Nancy Pelosi about where he's going to hold his state of the union. And they think, like, he thinks that he can just sort of pressure her into it. He doesn't, he has the right to come into the chamber,

but he has no right to address anyone unless he's invited to address them. They can remove him if he goes up there. The sergeant of arms can come over and remove him, take him out. Doesn't he have to get bub rubbed to announce him with the big black staff or something? Big black cock as they rap on the door.

No, there's no bub rub. Hear ye, hear ye. But I'll tell you what, there is a couple of people that would, you know, they would basically, the Secret Service would have to surround him and they would have to walk him out the door because there would be people there physically trying

to stop him from doing it. Sure, yeah. So the Secret Service would have to, there would be a weird like power struggle in the house. Yeah, you're not allowed in my treehouse. Right. No Trump with a Z allowed. Like, no Trumps allowed. No Trumps.

But seriously, like, we're looking at a situation where he had to back down from Nancy to say, okay, well, I'm just going to postpone this. Well, and did you see

the shitty letter? He was like, you can't go to Afghanistan. It's like, okay. Yeah. Well, first of all, like, that's not a fucking pleasure cruise.

Nobody's like, oh, vacationing. My vacation in Afghanistan got canceled. Said nobody's sad about that ever. Right. And then the other thing I want to point out with that Afghanistan thing is that fucking,

they would have put her on a plane, like a military plane and flown her over. And they're like, and there he's like, and he's like, since there's a budget crisis or whatever, and since all that, we're not going to do it.

But Melania, that weekend that he wrote that letter, flew down to Mar-a-Lago in the same kind of plane. So shut the fuck up. Alone. Right. Yeah. Just her. It's all grandstands. What do you do on a C-130 by yourself?

Handstands. I would have them fill it with water and I'd swim the whole way. This is the biggest swimming, flying swimming pool in the world. Let's ask the audience. If you had a C-130 all to yourself, what would you fill it with? What would you fill it with? And the answer is you'd fill it with lube from adamandeve.com. Go to adamandeve.com

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Have you seen those Orbeez? Is that a kind of meat? And can you put it in a Magnum cup? No, Orbeez are like these, like, there's some, like, weird little ball thing and you get by and they inflate with water. They, like, suck up, like, a crazy amount of water. No?

You know what I'd fill it with? Dippin' Dots. That's what I'd do. And then I would just sit back and it'd be like And it'd be like It'd be like when you know Like when those Those gravel trucks

They lift their back end And then they pull forward And all the drive I would just sit underneath The Dippin' Dots And be like go Go Go

And then the Dippin' Dots Would just fall in I'm thinking those balls From like the ball pit You know How fucking money would that be That would be sweet Yeah

Go-kart track Oh Oh C-130 Go-kart track. Oh, C-130 go-kart track. And then what you do is you have them do the vomit comment. Like, you know,

when they go out of their way to like make it so that you can get weightless in the air when they go up and down. Yeah. Have the C-130 driver start doing that so you're driving

and then you just go weightless for a little while and then you come back down and you're weightless again. Can you throw like turtle shells at your friends and go like have like C-130 Mario Kart? It's that guy with a clarinet in the corner.

Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. I love, to get back to the story, I love that Trump cannot give the State of the Union address on time. He will be the first president in I don't even know how fucking long, who's like, I would like to tell you about the State of the Union. You're like, we don't want to hear that shit, man.

It's closed. How ineffective does he look right now? What kind of leader is like, I can't even give the big speech of the year. I can't even give my big speech

because the fucking Speaker of the House won't let me do it because I fucking am having a temper tantrum over a wall. What's he going to say? You know, like that's the thing is, you know, I know that they're trying to spin it, that the Democrats are soft on border security. They're not. They've been trying to fund this bill for a long time. And this bill is this bill is, you know, they're trying to fund border security for a long time. They're just it's just not is, you know, they've been trying to fund border security for a long time. They're just,

it's just not the wall. It's just, it's just that language. And I think this is one of those moments where Trump kind of shot himself in the foot because he used,

he's a simpleton and he uses really simple language sort of as a mnemonic device to remember what he has to do, right? It's like, it's like fucking when

Dipshit wrote three things on her hand. Sarah Palin wrote three things on her hand. Right. It's like, it's like fucking when a dipshit wrote three things, three things, taxes, taxes, taxes, and Eagles and bald Eagles. And I'm a woman.

And you know, she wrote that on there. You know, the thing is, is I think this is a problem for him is that, you know, they even, some people even said,

and some people in his old in minute that have been fired long since fired, they've rolled over that staff a long time ago. Most of America at this point, right? Yeah. He had said, they had said, look, you know, he just used the wall because he couldn't remember any other specifics.

Oh, I remember reading that. Like, yeah, we got to talk about immigration. We're going to simplify this to a wall because it's got one syllable and he'll remember. And he'll remember it. And also because he doesn't understand complex issues, right? Like this is a complex issue. You know, we talked about immigration, regular migrants that come in, do the work, and leave, right?

We talked about that. They're illegal, but they leave afterwards. You know, they're migratory workers. We also talked about, you know, like asylum and all this other stuff. It's a complicated issue. It's not a simple issue. And so for him, the simple issue is, well, fuck it. I don't want to look at my neighbor. Can I just build a wall? Because that's what he's been doing his whole life. It's just simple solutions. That's what he does. And his base,

they're going to eat this shit up because they have a lot of simple solutions too. And I know that when I've talked to people about the wall issue, people are like, look, he's never going to build a 2,000-mile wall. He's never going to build a $23 billion wall. That's just what he said. At some point, we all need to decide which of his untruths. I'm getting sick of that. I'm getting sick of this idea that we're supposed to say, well, we know he's lying, but we've all agreed over here on how much and which parts. We're supposed to say, well, we know he's lying, but we've all agreed over here on how much and which parts.

And so what we believe is the convenient portions of the truth that we infer from the bullshit. It's nonsense. The man has said, and it is, you know, let's also be honest. Like, this is a symbol. Walls are symbolic. This wall is mostly a symbolic gesture. And the defiance of the wall is symbolic too. This is a fuck you.

No. Yeah. No, absolutely. Because I was having a conversation like, why don't you just give him his wall? It's an accounting error. It's such a small amount of money against the total portion of the budget. Like, because it's not about the money.

Because his symbol is the wall. And the symbol in response is, no. Absolutely not. I will dig in my heels against this fucking symbolic gesture. This is not about security. It's not going to make anybody more secure. Yeah. I totally agree. But the other thing that people

don't understand is that there's been plenty of measures that have come forth that have high-tech surveillance. Let's stop the ports of entry. Let's have more high-tech surveillance. Let's stop at ports of entry. Let's have more high-tech surveillance. Let's have drones. Let's put up... There was a Republican who actually has a district

down on the border. And he was a great... He was on the Daily Podcast. I love the stuff he had to say. I thought he was a great speaker. And he was really... He had really good solutions for when it came to the wall. He said, though, the wall is not what we want what what we want is he's like let's put fiber

optic cable in the oceans so we can tell when people are you know traveling and we can have you know we know when that's happening so we can then stop them when they come ashore it slows down drugs it slows down yeah but none of this is about drugs none of this is about real issues no this is this is about saying no and putting a period at the end of that sentence and being emphatic and showing your power and saying, like, we are playing a zero-sum game with immigration. Sure. And the answer is no. Yeah. And anything less than that doesn't fit into that narrative.

Yeah. It just doesn't work. Yeah. So a wall is an emphatic no. It's a big line. But like you said, like the people on the border, they don't want it because they're getting

their land taken by eminent domain. Yeah, they don't want that. They get a big, ugly fucking wall. They're going to have, they're going to have to have people like in their land,

on their land, patrolling back and forth or the wall means nothing if you don't patrol it. Yeah. It's nothing. Yeah. And it's not that,

it's not that I don't think like, you know, there should be some, I don't think, I don't think anybody thinks that there shouldn't be security. That's the thing is, you know, and there's no, I don't know anybody that, that is like, yeah, no, what we should do is just have a big revolving door. Like, I don't know. Send them all home. Send all, send all the immigration guys home. I know people who are really passionate about immigration that don't think that at all.

And then, you know, him, him making sure the government doesn't start back up again, he reminds me of Chevy Chase from National Lampoon's Vacation, where he basically takes a guy hostage because he made a promise to his family. And he makes him fucking ride on a Christmas vacation. No, it's the Lampoon's Vacation when he takes the guy hostage. There's another hostage in that. But in the first movie, when they travel across the country, they go to Willy Wonka world or whatever, Willy world or whatever,

Wally world. And he, and he takes John Candy hostage with a pellet gun. Yeah. He doesn't know it was a pellet gun and they make some ride on all the rides with him because he promised his kids. And he was getting done. This is the same thing.

We promised the wall. So he takes the government hostage. It's the same fucking thing. You know, it's just, it's like you should, you should manage your expectations hostage. It's the same fucking thing. It's like, you should manage your expectations better. That's what you should do.

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Like, when you leave a country and the big thumb in the eye is like, I had some bacon and a glass of wine. Woo! Like, if I have bacon and a glass of wine, it's Tuesday. Exactly. I wore shorts. She wore shorts. And it's like a scandal that she's not, you know,

she's not in these. And, you know, like she's, this is a very clear way to send a message back to all those people that she left to say, look, I have freedom now. I'm a person now. Where I was, I wasn't a person. And the people that are upset by this, good.

Yeah. Good. You know what? Because none of this is controversial. None of this is a problem in the rest of the world. Get with the 20th century. This is controversial. That was last century, by the way.

I'm pointing out the 20th century was last century. Yeah, like, when is Saudi Arabia like, I'm asking kind of genuinely, like, what century is Saudi Arabia stuck in? I don't know. Because it's not the 18th. I genuinely, like, we're talking hundreds of years back. Yeah.

I mean, you look at some of these countries, though. Like, Iran, before the Ayatollah. Oh, it was a regular. It's like just a regular. Women wore pants and went to college. Like new stuff about things. Just like you didn't have to hide it.

Exactly. It's a totally different place. There's a really good book called Reading Lolita in Tehran, which is about a university professor and a professor of English literature, university professor in Tehran during the time of that transition. And it's incredibly distressing both how quick and how total that transition was from being like a regular, academic, well-respected person. It's like, it's some Handmaid's Tale shit.

Is it really? It really feels similar. Well, I know that when the Ayatollah came in, it was, you know, night and day from what was happening there. Yeah. You know, and like people were sympathetic, but like unable to, you know, voice their sympathetic concern out of fear that, you know, this religious majority would persecute them as well. And like just all of a sudden their whole life just fell away from them, just like out of nowhere. And then it's been like that for half a fucking century. Half a century now. Yeah. You know what I love about this story? I want to get back to the story.

You know what I love about this story is that she goes there, she's, you know, there's a chance because we, I did read from that same article that we talked about this, this young lady. I read from that same article, we talked about this young lady. I read from that same article a woman who did the exact same thing, who was dragged back to Saudi Arabia in zip ties and is living her life on a farm now. Like the way they put it, it's just like, no, we had to give her to a farm so she could run forever and ever, you know? So that's, but, but there's like, there's a real possibility when she leaves that she could go back to Saudi Arabia and be stuck in, you know, a worse position, a way worse position than she left. But she had to try to try to get away. And Canada comes in. She wanted, she applied for, I think in Australia, but she got Canadian refugee status.

I mean, kind of want to sing like the Canadian national anthem, but all I know is, Oh Canada. That's all I know. Is there more than that? I don't know. Oh Canada. Say something Canada's cool. Maple syrup Northern lights Canada.

Probably have a moose somewhere in the song. Oh Canada. We probably have a moose somewhere in the song. Oh, Canada. Dad time. So we know that song. I think we know that song. I felt a great stir with that one. I think...

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measles are on the rise globally. 30%. 30 fucking percent. For something that, like, I've never seen. You ever seen the measles? I had the measles. You had the measles? Well, you must have seen them. I was a kid. I had the chickenpox. I never had the measles. I had the measles

when I was a kid. You didn't get the MMR when you were a kid? I was poor, and so we didn't get it. You didn't get the inoculation. You didn't know. I didn't. I never had the measles. I had the measles when I was a kid. You didn't get the MMR when you were a kid? I was poor. And so we didn't get it because we didn't get the inoculation. You didn't know. I didn't, I don't, I, like my parents never took me to the doctor when I was a kid because we just couldn't afford it. Right. So, so my inoculations, I think at that point had run, like I, maybe I didn't get inoculated with that particular thing when I was a very young boy. Right. And then when I, you know, once my parents, once my dad lost his job, we just never went to anywhere to do anything.

So I didn't have any money. And so I got him when I was 14 or 15. Gotcha. And it was, is that when you got the autisms? It was so unpleasant. It was so unpleasant. I was on the road actually at the time.

My father was an overworld truck driver. And he had, he had come, it was summer. And he said, hey, why don't you meet me and I'll take you on my next road trip with me. And it was a big deal to ride with dad on those road trips. Right. And you're in a semi. I fucking love the semi. When I was a kid, I thought it was amazing. I was like 14. I actually kind of think it would be amazing. Now I've never been in a semi. I loved it. I loved it. But it's fucking money. My dad had a, had a bunk and it's, you know, it's like a twin bed that we, we both slept in for the, for the trip. And it was only like a three day trip. We were going to Missouri and then to a couple other places stopping in like Galesburg, Illinois or something. Or I don't even know if that is Illinois, whatever Galesburg, whatever that is. And then on the way home, we'd come back. So it was like a little,

my dad didn't drive. Like my dad wasn't like over the road to go to California. He was just Midwest. Right. So it was like a three day trip. We leave. And then on the road, I got sick. We called my mom, you know, we're talking to her. And then the very next day I was sick and I was in the bunk, uh, sick for, you know, the rest of the time. Cause I had a fever and I was just sick. And my dad was like, well, like, you know, you can't drive you home. Right. Yeah. Right. You're stuck. And so I just worked. Yeah. And so I just had the measles on the trip for that two days and then came home and was sick for another three or four. Like I got the measles, but I'm like the only person I know that's ever

gotten them. Yeah. I'm the only person I know out of like anyone I've ever talked to. That's got, it's gotten the measles. Yeah. Yeah. I, I've never known anybody that's gotten the measles, right?

It's on the rise. It's, it's, it, and they know each other. Yeah. We know each other, but I don't know anybody that's gotten the measles.

What are you talking about? I didn't know you when you had them. Oh, I see what you... Oh, okay. So that doesn't matter. Your story doesn't matter to me. It doesn't matter to me. Okay, fair enough.

What I consider... Also, I lied. I made it all up. As far as I'm concerned, you came into being when I met you. Oh, okay. Why would you have mattered before... Just snapped out of...

I get it. I get it. Sure. It's very confusing. But seriously, it's a thing that nobody has to do. And, you know, the thing is, is like, like for me, the measles weren't, weren't unbelievable, but people can go blind.

Like you can get, make a sterile. You can get, yeah, you can get fucked up from it pretty badly. So, you know, it's not just a throwaway thing. I want to talk a little bit about this. You know, it's, it's a horror that we're talking about, you know, anti-vax, something completely preventable, right? This is completely preventable. Vaccine,

injury through vaccine is very, very minimal. It's one of those, I mean, yeah, I'm not going to dismiss it and say there isn't injury through vaccine, but it's one of those things that's like, you take way more risks.

Not being vaccinated. Riding in a car every day. You know, we take way more risks with these things. Riding in a car every day. You know, we take way more risks with these things. And I mean, riding in a car is huge. You probably take more risk riding in an airplane

than vaccine injury. I'm sure we take more risks when we order takeout. Yeah. Right. Exactly. We ordered takeout. We got takeout.

I'm sure that was a riskier decision than getting your inoculation. Exactly. But what this boils down to, I looked at this list earlier and we'll go through this list to talk about each one of these items.. But what this boils down to, I looked at this list earlier and we'll go through this list to talk about each one of these items. But what this list boils down to,

this 10 global threats to global health, it boils down to- I feel like I want to gas, but go on. The two major factors are, it's completely preventable by science, but we're either too greedy to do it, or I'm real sorry you're poor. Those are the two major factors.

Now, there's a couple in here that slip through that aren't that, but most of them are whoopsie doodle you're too poor or whoopsie doodle we're too greedy. I was going to guess anti-intellectualism and poverty. Those two things. That's it. Those are going to be my guesses. That's it.

That's exactly it. So we'll start at the top. Air pollution and climate change, completely preventable. We know how to really reduce this, but we decided we're way at the top. Air pollution, climate change, completely preventable. You know, we know how to, I mean, we know how to really reduce this, but we decided we're way too fucking greedy. We don't want to do that. And I mean, let's be honest, climate change is going to be affecting the most, the poorest among us.

They're going to be the ones that are going to hit with this. Absolutely. You know, once the water shortages start, it's not going to be the poor people that are gonna be like, man, so glad to have all this clean water. Yeah, invest in lake futures now. Yeah, exactly. Non-communicable diseases. Now, the five major risk factors here,

tobacco, physical activity, harmful use of alcohol, unhealthy diets, and air pollution. I would say four or five of those things affect the poor more than they do the rich. Yes, absolutely. You know? Absolutely, yeah. I mean, I don't know if they,

I don't know if I would say physical inactivity. I would think that, you know, like, if you're poor, you're probably a lot more physically active. But those are the four out of five, that's you're poor. Yeah. Also, all of those, completely preventable by just,

you know, by just through, you know, you following science, right? Don't fucking smoke. Smoking's bad for you. It's always been bad for you.

They lied to us when they said, you know, get super smart and shit kids out faster or whatever they said back in the day. Like,

give your fetus a cigarette. You've got asthma. Try these lucky strikes. So true, man. For real. It's so true. Oh got asthma. Try these Lucky Strikes. It's so true, man. For real. It's so true. Oh, God. Try these radium-laced Lucky Strikes.

I also want to address many of those items are associated with poverty because the lifestyles that are associated... The lifestyle changes that you have to make in order to be physically active every day in an exercise related way can be cost prohibitive. You got to set aside time.

Absolutely. Yeah. You know, like unhealthy diet. Same thing. People live in food deserts. People have. You're eating Twinkies instead of, you know, celery or whatever. Calorie dense rather than nutrient dense.

Exactly. Yeah. You know, and, and air pollution, like, ah, I live next to the fucking poop factory or whatever. Like that sucks for me. I'm a poop smith.

But you know, like those are, those are huge. You know, the same thing is true of, of tobacco and alcohol, the use and overuse of those items are, you know,

when you look at the populations primarily affected, those are populations of, you know, those, those are habits that are traditionally associated and statistically associated with poverty. Right, right. Yeah. Huge. Huge. Global influenza pandemic.

This, again, comes back down to, I know part of this has to do with vaccines, right? So part of this has to do with vaccines and anti-vaccines because, you know, there's been, I don't know how many people, I don't know how many people you run into, but I run into a lot of people that are like, yeah, I just don't get the flu vaccine. So many people say the same shit like, well, it's time I got the flu vaccine. I got the flu.

Like, no, you probably got a cold. Yeah. Coincidentally timed near or around when you got a shot. You don't even know what the flu is you don't know what the flu is you don't most people don't know what the fuck i got a stomach bug it's the flu it's not the flu that's not the flu yeah you're an actual idiot yeah you don't know what the flu is stop using that word yeah excise it from your fucking stomach stomach flu is not the flu no it's it's food poisoning, but we just don't say it's food poisoning. Why do we not say it's food poisoning?

Because people don't want to be suspect over their own food preparation, I think. They don't want to blame it on a restaurant. You can also get a virus that upsets your stomach. That's entirely possible. Yeah, absolutely. There are reasons you get a stomach upset, but fucking influenza is not typically one of them. Fragile and vulnerable settings. Liberals.

That means you're poor. That's what that means. I thought it was snowflakes. Yeah, they're vulnerable. They're so vulnerable. But yeah, but it's basically people who live in areas that have a challenges such as drought, famine, conflict, population displacement, and they just don't have weak health services there. Also, we have weak health services in the United States if you're poor too.

It just turns out those are also fragile and vulnerable settings. Yeah, there are fragile and vulnerable settings in the States. But again, both of those completely preventable. Stopped because people are greedy and because, you know, you're real poor. And look at that number. Like 22% of the global population live in places where protracted crises and weak health services leave them without access to basic care. One out of four. Basic care.

One out of four. One out of four people. Fuck. Antimicrobial resistance is another one. And this is, this is, a lot of this is brought on from animals. Because we give, in food production, we use antibiotics. And so that's where a big problem, that's where we run into. But then there's also humans who overuse antibiotics.

And so again, completely preventable. We can prevent this by changing. Now, when it comes to meat production, I don't know if you can. I don't know if you can prevent this by changing. And now when it comes to, when it comes to meat production, I don't know if you can, right? I don't know if you can prevent that. I think the way to prevent that is we all have to stop eating as much meat because meat is bad for not only the environment, but it's also bad for, it's also bad in the sense that, you know, antimicrobial resistance is really bad for us as a species. And so both of those things should be weighing on our conscious when we eat something that is, you know, that is a meat. But, you know, many of us

just don't think about that. And hopefully this is a reminder that, you know, yeah, you should probably curb your meat consumption because both of those things are really horrible. This one, this is just bad

luck of the dice here. This Ebola and high, and other high threat pathogens. High threat pathogens are just, they're just fucking but of the dice here. This Ebola and high, another high threat pathogens, high threat pathogens are just, they're just fucking butch and in charge. They're just going to own your face. Now they are spread because of poverty,

right? They are spread because people don't understand and they don't know. And I was going to say, you know, Ebola is one of those things that spread in large part because of conditions and education levels that are in culture. Yeah, right. Because somebody dies, they got fucking Ebola, and they've got a cultural tradition of, you know,

kissing the dead or interacting with the dead. And it's like, that's awesome. That's a good way to die. Yeah, exactly. Because Ebola is not fucking airborne. It's not somebody coughed in the room and coughed Ebola at you. Weak primary health care, also known as the United States. USA!

USA! That again, you know, sorry you're poor. Vaccine hesitancy, we finally reach it here. Vaccine hesitancy, clear science shows vaccines are very safe and that they prevent tons of, they prevent illness and injury and we don't pay attention

to it because we think, I don't even know. Dengue is one of the... This is, I guess, overtaking malaria because it's mosquito-borne, right? But dengue is killing people. Up to 20% of those with severe dengue,

it can kill. Holy shit. 390 million infections a year, 40% of the world at risk of dengue fever uh, it can kill. Holy shit. 390 million infections a year, 40% of the world at risk of dengue fever. Yeah. Wow. And HIV. Uh,

this is, uh, this is clearly one of these is, this is, this is both of them, right? Sorry, you're poor.

Yeah. And bad science because the Catholic church has been running around, running amok in Africa saying robbers. What's she need those for? Just rinse and reuse. Yeah, exactly. All you got to do is wash your pee-pee off. But yeah, HIV is one of those things that you just, like, it's appalling that we let that go on and on and on. And it's one of those things, the difference in outcome and transmission

between people with means and people without means is night and day. If you have means, the antiretrovirals are so effective. They're so effective. Oh, but you're never going to get those if you don't have the means. If you don't have means. So this is a disease that has become a disease of poverty. That's exactly it. And what's crazy to me is that we're talking about,

you're talking about 10 things that are, you know, what they consider to be the worst things that we're contending with. Yeah. And almost all of them are deeply entrenched in anti-science or poverty. How fucking terrifying is that? Well, but I feel like it's like that? Well, but it's like, I feel like it's like so many other things

where it's like, the solutions to so many of these problems are intractable only because of our reluctance to engage with them honestly. You know? Like, when we think about,

like, politics, like, you can come up with a handful of solutions that'll fix most problems in a day, but no one's going to do them. Like, let's get money out of politics. That's going to make a huge difference. You could really fix a lot of shit, except for that we can't fix it.

We can't do it. We just can't. These are intractable issues. I have no illusion that that list from the WHO is not substantive or that it will change or that we'll look at and be like, oh, we could just fix that. Let's fix it. We know how to fix this. We've known how to fix so much of this. We just have a group of people in charge that aren't affected by it. Yeah. So it's like, yeah, I'm not getting dengue fever, man. You know, Tom is not getting dengue fever. I'm not getting like, I'm fine.

You know, I got mine. I'm fine. I'm a fucking upper middle class, heterosexual white male. I got mine all day. And I'm the kind of guy who makes all the rules. Right. Right. In the name of Jesus, we speak that. I'm high on believing.

Stories from the Intercept. Trump administration grants South Carolina foster care agencies authority to discriminate against Jewish and Muslim families and discriminate against anyone they fucking want, right? That's a little bit of a misleading headline because it's not broad enough. Right. What we can really do now in South Carolina is discriminate, period.

If a foster agency does not want to place a child in a home for any religious reason whatsoever, be they atheist, be they Jewish, be they Hindu, be they Sikh, be they whatever, if they have any desire to say, nah, fuck that kid, because that's really what you're saying. Yeah, you're saying you don't care about the kids.

That's what you're saying. Right, right. Then that's now perfectly fine. Yes. Perfectly fine. Stephen Wagner, principal deputy assistant secretary at the Health and Human Services Administration for Children and Families, signed a waiver giving special permission to a federally funded Protestant foster care agency in South Carolina to break federal

and state law using strict religious requirements to deny Jewish, Muslim, Catholic parents from fostering children within its network. Well, the reason why they're doing this, and this is the Protestants, right? They're calling this bill, make the playing field even, jellicle, is what they're calling it. That's actually really funny. That's really

good. Even jellicle. It's true. If you're not Protestant, you don't get to play. They're talking about you can't give it to a Catholic. You know, are you telling me, you know, here you are, you're this religious person, right? I'm not even fucking religious, right? And I think, you know where that kid belongs? In a Jewish, Muslim, or a Catholic fucking family before they belong in a home.

Before they belong in the place where they're coming from or the place that they're in transition from. Right? I don't care what they believe. I don't either. I don't give a fuck. This can't be something, this is a political movement to pacify religious people

because anybody who looks at kids, like anybody who's willing to take in a kid, anybody, I don't care if they are fucking homeless or going to put a fucking cardboard sign on them and turn them out to beg for food. Anybody who wants to take care of a kid. Have you met a kid?

Have you met a kid? They're all that shit where they're not supposed to shit. They can't take care of themselves. If you send email, send it directly to Tom. If you have a dog in your house that wants to adopt a kid, fine. Give it to him.

It's Tom at DissonancePod.com. I'm just saying that anybody who says yes, that thing that shits in its own pants, I'll take care of it. We shouldn't ask more questions. Absolutely. The answer is yes. Don't even.

The answer should be how many do you want? I have a different question. I got a bucket of kids. Stop having kids. That's everyone. I have a question though. And this is serious of kids. Stop having kids. I have a question though. And this is serious. Where the fuck are the Satanists at?

Because what I want is I want the Satanists to come in and say, we're starting an organization that fosters kids. And we're going to be, the Satanists are going to be giving away the kids. That's what I want. It would be amazing if they did that and then every kid that they hand over, they dress up in a little devil outfit. Call them little fallen angels. Here's your little fallen angel.

You get your own little children of the beast. There you go. All these kids are named Lucifer. Even the girls. They all come. And right before you get them, they stamp their hand with 666 or a barcode on the back of the

neck or whatever. These children come pre-stamped at the Market of Beasts. Microchipped. How amazing. But seriously though, what the Satanists need to do is get into this business because that would... We talk a lot about how the Satanists have changed people's minds

about books in school, religious books in school, monuments, Ten Commandments places. They've changed people's mind by basically saying, sure, we'll put up a Baphomet statue. It's got giant fucking horns and looks all baller. It's fucking amazing. We're going to put that fucker up there. Well, what about if they started their own organization?

You bet your ass. Every single politician in any shit, like clench your ass state would be fucking immediately trying to stop religious, religious part of partaking in that part of society. It's or they'd be fucking making laws against the religion right yes what is it what is the rationale here that like it's not it's not you could say well the parents wanted the kid raised baptist like the parents didn't want the kid and the kid

the fucking they don't turn them out for tricks or whatever like what the fuck That's why tricks are for kids. Silly wabbit. Contestant. Foster mother approved. Foster mother. Oh, yeah. So, no, yeah, but, like, I just feel like, you know, this is another example of what we go through all the time when it comes to religion.

They get away with it, and they're able to walk all over other. I mean, right now they're walking. It doesn't list atheist in here, right? It doesn't say that they can stop them from giving to an atheist, but it definitely lists three other religions. Three really popular ones. Well, it's South Carolina. There are no, this is it, right?

First of all, nobody lives there. Nobody lives in South Carolina. Your dad could be a banjo. Come on. My dad is this jug band. He's part of the jug band. No, he's the literal jug band. He's the jug. He's the front one.

My dad has washboard. He's the washboard. Yeah, he's just washboard. My mom plays the mouth organ. I know. Hey, what? Whoa. And I also am an amateur paleontologist,

so I've spent a lot of time looking at the Earth's temperature over a very long time. And I'm a lot harder to convince than just looking at a computer model. All right, so this story is from the Raw Story. White House patronizes freshman AOC to Fox News and tells her to leave climate change up to God. So this is, you know, I got to say, this is in reference to Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,

which I may have mispronounced. Forgive me if I have. Often abbreviated as AOC. The right has no idea. They have no answer for this woman. And I love it because she just is like Rick rolling them constantly.

And it's a goddamn delight because she's funny. And she's clever. And she's kind of hip. And like they are none of those things at all, ever, even accidentally sometimes. And she is just absolutely, she never like says like that's

not true or that was a meanie thing like she just fucking mocks and ridicules and is sharper and faster and it is my very favorite thing i don't know at this point how much i care about her policies or her positions i just love how they can't contend with her. It is a goddamn delight to watch them just like, well, did you see her dancing? And she's like, here's me dancing again. If you like it, dance right outside the office that I have as a Congresswoman. Unsa, unsa, unsa, unsa.

I love it. It's fucking amazing. Okay, so she's a woman from a heavily Democratic district, right? She beat a Democratic incumbent, an old Democratic incumbent, to win, to get the primary so that she could run. And there was no way anybody, no Republican was going to touch her. The moment she won that primary, she won the race, basically. And they're never going to elect a person there that's not going to be a Democrat. elect a person there that's that's not gonna be a democrat and the more outrageous and progressive she is the better it is for her in her own district right so she can be she's like she's

like the magician's hand that isn't doing the trick she's doing all this distraction stuff and she's calling down the hate. Come get me. Hate, hate, hate. Everybody hates her. Everybody hates her. All the right hates her.

They hate her. They hate her. But I don't care how much they hate her. That just emboldens her to the people that she's actually trying to get votes from. So for her, she's blowing party favors when they hate her. She loves it. She's like,

she's just tanking it. She's just like, go ahead, hit me with everything you got. I don't care. Not only am I smarter than you, I'm fucking, I'm going to be funnier than you.

I'm going to win more followers because of it. You know, I would not be surprised if she keeps at this pace that in, you know, a couple of terms,

she could be planning to go for the presidency because she's got enough clout building through all this. And, you know, like, I'm not saying that that's a good or a bad thing because like you,

I don't know a lot about her policies. But I will say like, you know, she's starting, she's definitely starting off on the right foot when it comes to this stuff. When all these things

kind of make her delightfully invincible. Yeah. And I love it. One of the things that she floated out there was a massive tax. Yeah, the Green New Deal. Yeah. Which would tax the ultra wealthy at a rate of about 70%, which is not unheard of. Like around World War II, that was a pretty common tax rate. I'm amazed by how many people that are not ultra wealthy are like up in arms at that idea. I'm blown away by it too. I don't understand how you can have a party

who is so incredibly selfish when it comes to making sure to be protectionist around their own issues. Fuck the rest of the world. Fuck, you know, the air and the of the world. Fuck, you know, the air and the water and the land and, you know, protecting other people and giving them healthcare and all this. But by God, I'm not

rich, but I want to make sure my rich people stay rich. Why? I'm going to fuck somebody over. Fucking over a rich guy who, when it's all said and done, is still rich. I'm okay with that. Yeah. Like, I sleep very well at night. If Warren Buffett was like, you took a lot of my money, but I

still have so very, very much. These people are still going to afford a latte. Why do we feel bad here? It's not even that. The thing is, they're talking about an income tax. That's number one. A lot of these people don't make a lot of income in that sense. It's capital gains.

It's all capital gains. We're talking about an income tax when it comes to, first off, it's a regular rate, just like a lot of other people pay, up to $10 million. It's the $10 millionth and $1 that gets taxed at 70%. So we're talking about, think about what your life is like if you bring home $10 million. I don't even care if it's taxed, right? Let's say it's taxed at like 30%, right? So you're walking in the door with $7 million. That's your money.

You get $7 million. Just in this 12-month period. Just in 12 months. Now we're talking about like that's your total wealth. That's not your net worth. That's $7 million I made this year. Now, you've already made a lot of money yeah because you now are up to an income of seven million dollars a year so chances are your entire house

is paid for your second home your third home your fourth home your fifth home your sixth home and the one overseas is paid for along with your fifth sixth seventh eighth fifteenth hundredth car right is 100% paid off. These people don't have car notes. They don't have house notes. They don't have any of that stuff. They have $7 million in liquid cash. They can fuck on.

That's what they have. $7 million is an, you can live an extravagant lifestyle on $7 million. I mean, you were talking about yearly income. Like you could like, you know, when you're talking about just even homes in Chicago, like nice, nice, wealthy, big, wealthy homes. You know, when people buy a home,

when you or I buy a home, we look at how much money we make in a year and then we guess how much home we can afford based on our mortgage payments, right? When you're that wealthy, you just walk into a penthouse and you say, I'll take it.

Right. And then you get your giant comical fucking giant check out publisher's clearinghouse check that you write on because I would not write anything except for giant novelty checks. Everything would be paid

for novelty checks if I was that rich. But you write, one million dollars, sir. Is that what you would do? Oh God, I would never do anything. I would send armored cars full of coins. Oh, you know, I take that back.

I would either be novelty checks or I would say, can I pay that in coinage? And then I would t-shirt gun it at whoever I did it. Like t-shirt gun, air cannon it out, air cannon coins out at people.

Oh, that'd be amazing. Or just like literal money bag, like big bags with the money symbol on it. Oh God, who wouldn't want to do that? I brought you your money and just like hand them the satchel of money. I would hire like an entire service to go out and deliver that money.

Like a big bag of money. And they'd have to walk like it was Popeye, like where they walk in. Oh, it'd be amazing. But you know, these are people that are ultra wealthy. And I don't understand. I literally don't understand why. I don't understand why.

Because when you count those people in our system, they shouldn't have as much say as they do. They should, but they spend a lot of money to make sure that they can keep even more money. I know, and our poor protect our rich. Yeah. And a lot of these people make foundations to give away their funds. I watched a video this week where this guy said, well, I just don't trust the government to do it. I put in way more than 70% of my income into my foundation. And one thing that that ignores

is that those people make money off those foundations. Those are tax shelters and things like that. And so they make a lot of money off of that. So when they say, oh, I put in a bunch of money. Yeah, you did, but you're also using it as a tax shelter. And you're not telling the whole story when you say that. One of the things that was said in this interview was the guy who's arguing, he's saying,

yeah, I did this, I have all 70%. And he says out loud, name a country where that's, that's ever worked. And one of the guys on the panel is like the United States. Like it happened here for a long time until we changed our mind about it. When Reagan changed his mind about it, right. It happened. We had it for a long time we had that that tax rate was absolutely and then now look there's it's almost like it's never happened it's almost like they you know they they they concreted over that part of history and we just don't have it anymore it's like no that that absolutely happened that happened and the majority of the country look at all the infrastructure problems we didn't have back then. Because we had enough money

to pay for that stuff. Well, we didn't have wage stagnation at that point. Like we didn't have, all of, many of the modern economic problems that plague the American middle class and under class,

you know, really began at about that same point when wage stagnation took hold and America basically stopped growing. You know, but prior to that massive tax kerfuffle or rebalancing or fucking inverted triangle, however you want to call it, like prior to that, there was like, you know, our quality, our standard of living continued to increase year after year. And it has gone gone down it's going down we are not wealthier yeah the wealthy are wealthier but on the whole we're much poorer than we've ever been yeah and like this is

awesome because like aoc just to get back to the story um you know aoc she's known for her green new deal um hannity and and and sarah huckabee sanders um were basically like hey we're not going to listen to her on anything particularly particularly about climate change, because we're going to leave that in the hands of a much, much higher authority, not a freshman congresswoman on when the world may end. It's like, all right, all right, cool, cool. We're just going to just wait for God to whisper to us about like what, instituting a carbon tax? That's the plan. That's the fucking plan. Well,

these people don't think that God can, God would do anything to harm the earth. He wouldn't let us do anything to harm the earth. He's just going to always protect it. How do they, how do they reconcile that with the harms you can see now? I don't know. I don't know how they do it.

How do you look at like coral bleaching? Yeah, I don't know. And say like that's happening. So how's that working? I don't know how they do it. And they do it. They do it all the time.

They constantly are walking around in a state where they're just, their head is up their own ass. Because there's plenty of, I mean, there's demonstrable indicators that the climate is changing drastically. Demonstrable indicators. drastically. Demonstrable indicators. We're talking, before we started recording, we're talking about climate change, the president fucking up the climate change tweet, where he says, oh, I wish I had some of that good old fashioned global warming here because it's cold in the United States. And then at the same time in Australia, there's horses dying, wild horses and bats dying and falling out of trees because it's so fucking hot that they can't live down there anymore they aren't they can't adapt to it they don't have air conditioning they can't adapt they're not going to adapt to it and the more we heat the planet up the more

coral bleaching there is there's more plankton die off you know this that sort of stuff is that's that's gonna have a real you're gonna have a bad time. Yeah. And I just read something that is that the oceans are warming much faster. Much faster. Not just faster, much faster than we thought. Yeah. Do they just not believe that the thing, but like, I kind of understand the idea of being able to say, I don't believe that study, but like, you can just go look at the coral. Yeah.

You know, you just go look at it. When you swam the Great Barrier Reef. Yeah. It is so much of it, at least the part I saw, so much of it was bleached. Yeah. You could just see it. It's not like, as a kid, I always imagined the reefs as being these bright, vibrant places full of color.

And you look at it and it's like, ah, there's nothing. There's very little that I swam. Yeah. That wasn't just white. Yeah. There was a lot of white. There was, there was some ah, there's nothing. There's very little that I swam that wasn't just white. Yeah, there was a lot of white. There was some that, there was a lot alive where I was, but it wasn't very vibrant.

It probably is starting to go through that process. I'll tell you another thing. I went to Iceland recently and I walked on a glacier, right? I climbed up on top of a glacier. And when I was climbing up on top of the glacier, the guy who was the guide has been there for several years. And he was saying a couple of years ago, when I first started, the glacier was up to that cliff and he's pointing up and it's,

Tom, it's 200 feet in the air. And he's like, it was up there. And it was, he's like, do you see where that island is? And the island, Tom, is a half a mile out. And he's like, it was up there. And it was, he's like, do you see where that island is? And the island, Tom, is a half a mile out. And he's like, and the glacier went all the way out to that island. He's like, now it doesn't go out there anymore. He's like, now it's a tiny little slope to get up here, 200 feet lower than we were before. Because the glaciers are melting at a fantastic rate. You know, like I said before,

when I watched that Chasing Ice movie, you don't even have to fucking have the sound on. You could turn the sound off on that movie and watch that movie and be like, where's my pistol? Because you don't need, you don't even need them to tell you anything. All you need to do is use your eyes and watch that shit. Watch what happens.

Watch the difference in 10 years of the glacier. Watch 10 years worth of difference. And the only thing that's going to matter is massive policy changes. Oh, yeah. Matt, don't fool yourself into thinking you can recycle your way out of this.

Yeah. No, it's good. Massive policy changes. Massive, massive, massive systemic, huge, global initiatives. And, like, you got these fucking Hannity and Sanders, like, well, I got these fucking Hannity and Sanders like,

well, I got to listen to the fucking magic man in the sky. Nothing's, put your head in the fucking sand. Nothing bad is happening. Well, Attenborough, was it David Attenborough? Came out and he's been saying stuff for a while about this. And he just recently said, yeah, we just came back. We just finished an age. We just finished our last age.

And now we're in the age of humans. He's like, we just finished it. He's like, I'm calling it. He's like, it's done. I'm calling it. David the age of humans. He's like, we just finished it. He's like, I'm calling it. He's like, it's done. I'm calling it. David Attenborough out. He's like, yeah. It's like, I dropped my mic. It's also on fire before it hits the ground

because of global warming. But yeah. Yeah, no, like, you know, there's plenty of scientists out there. There's plenty of people out there that are saying this. And if you're going to stick your head in your old 2000 year old book

and be like, well, God didn't say it happened in here. Well, then I guess maybe we deserve it. I guess maybe we deserve it because you're the one we set us in charge. I am seriously, I hope my kids don't have kids. Yeah. I like, I genuinely, we're at a point now. I mean that from the very bottom of my heart. I hope my kids don't have kids. Yeah. We're at a point now where that's probably a bad idea. Abortions for all. Very well. No abortions for anyone. Abortions for some miniature American flags for others. This is from CBS News. New York passes law allowing abortions at any time if mother's health is at risk. So I know this has kind of gotten a little bit of controversy

around it. This is a law which was placed on the books in New York, rather, in part to make sure that if Roe versus Wade is overturned, that New York's abortion laws will continue to be upheld, that they will still have options in New York. The court ruling includes provisions for late-term abortions if the mother's health is at risk. And it's funny because at a federal level, late-term abortions have always been okay if the woman's health is at risk. Every state has its own laws. But this is a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percentage of the total number of abortions. It's measured in the ones, not ones percents, but numerically,

like that late-term abortion. This is not something which happens with any regularity. There's only a tiny handful of doctors at all in the whole country that perform late-term abortion. Now you just zip over to Planned Parenthood and you're like eight and a half months pregnant and you're like, I don't know, get it out of here. And they're like, cool, cool, cool.

And they pop it out of their shoehorn. Yeah. So like, no, there is a drill. It is a drum. It's a drum. Yeah, right.

It's a hobby drum. But like, this is okay with the caveat that if a woman's health is at risk, like this is, there's nothing,

there's nothing in my mind that's controversial about this, right? Like, yeah, like yeah like i'm gonna die if i do this well and don't don't do it nobody can make me nobody can make me you cannot pass any other law that says like all right well tom dies well what i do i didn't you know i mean you fuck somebody so now so now you just you know but a little over a year a little less than a year ago you fuck somebody. So now you just get to die. But a little over a year, a little less than a year ago, you fuck somebody. Look, you had nine months to live it up. Yeah, I mean, TikTok. Yeah, I mean, so now

you get to die, maybe. Like, fuck that noise. You know, we're talking about a woman who's going to die and the fetus isn't savable, right? Because every single doctor out there, if you're at a late term, is going to say, well, let's see what we can do to save the fetus.

Yeah, you don't have a fully healthy baby and it's like, well, why don't we do a C-section now in seven months? No, kill it. Is there any way you could just kill it? Just fucking dash it against a rock. Can you get the salad shooter in here? I want to make sure that this thing is going to nice and caught up

on its way out. You know, it's sliced thin. Nobody's going to do that. And. And it's not. And it's funny because like the moral objections to this are objections to a thing which is not happening. It's not happening. It is objections as if women were seven, eight months pregnant and are just like, change of heart, kill the baby. Nobody's doing that. They're posting their Facebook while time for that borscht. No, no, but he's doing that. And it's not happening at all. And this does, like you said, this doesn't change anything.

And I'm actually, you know, like I'm, I am for, you know, I do think there's something to be said about, you know, viability of a fetus. Like I definitely think there's something to be said. You know, we've had these conversations several times. I think there's something to be said about viability of a fetus. I definitely think there's something to be said. We've had these conversations several times. I think there's something to be said about it. And I think I'm probably one of the more squeamish atheists out there when it comes to abortion. And this doesn't even, I didn't even blink when I saw this. But the way in which they're spinning it is there's, like I saw somebody had posted to our Facebook page. It's a picture of a baby and it said, this is my son at 15 minutes old in New York.

He could have been killed 15 minutes earlier or something like that, basically. Like, like because they're because the baby. But you're like, no, because your kid wouldn't have survived because the mother wouldn't have survived. Right. Yeah. It's yes and no context free yeah yeah i guess but no like you have take into account all the factors that are required for that to happen no nobody is like yeah kid's fine 50 it's 15 minutes away from being born if you're fucking pushing and I changed my notes. It's not happening. It's not happening. And nobody is, nobody is advocating for that to happen.

This whole thing is coming about because of other laws like Iowa's fetal heartbeat abortion law, which are all moving toward the, through the court system to challenge Roe v. Wade. Right. And now that. Now that they got five. Yeah, right. them to challenge Roe v. Wade. And now that they got five, now the deck is stacked on the conservative side, there are states which are like, fuck it, let's get our laws in the books now.

Let's make sure that we are secure locally so that if federal protections are removed, we have our local laws in ship shape. So Iowa passed a fetal heartbeat law. And that's pretty much what it sounds like. If there's a fetal heartbeat law. And that's pretty much what it sounds like. If there's a fetal heartbeat at six weeks, it's outlawed. Six weeks is outrageous. Six weeks is

outrageous. It doesn't even make any sense. And it really, a heartbeat isn't a meaningful word, right? At six weeks, you don't have a fully functioning heart. You can detect the rhythm of the rudiment of heart motions because you have myocardial cells, which are beginning to form and function. But is that a heartbeat? I don't know. Like, is it a heart yet even? That's what I'm driving at. Like, you don't at six weeks have a brain, and you don't at six weeks have a fully functioning heart. But if you pass it as I heard a rhythmic whoosh, whoosh, whoosh. And that's a heartbeat. Yeah. Then this is a way to and all of this is just a way to challenge Roe v. Wade.

Yeah. Nobody in Iowa, not even fucking racist Steve King. Nobody in Iowa thinks that this bill is going to do anything except for push this issue up into the Supreme Court. That's what all of these are for. Yeah. You know, it's it's it's fucking it's crazy to me because, you know, damn well that if they needed it, they'd use it. The Republicans, you know, these Republicans that are on this other side, if they if they needed the abortion, they would use it. They would do it. They would, you know,

if they had an oopsie baby, they would be like, oh, yeah, it's just, you just found out, okay, well, you know, maybe you'd pop the day after pill or you'd go in and, you know, get a procedure done. But, you know, they'd use it. You know that they do use it. They do use it. Yeah, we have

plenty of evidence that shows that they do. Right. It you know that they do use, they do use. Yeah. We have plenty of evidence that shows that they do. Right. It's just that they just want to shame other people, right? They, it's never their fault. It's never, you know, I'm a good person. I would never do this, you know, to hurt anybody. I just did it because I had an accident, but you didn't, you did it. You were irresponsible. You were bad. Yeah. I had circumstance. Exactly. You were irresponsible. It's a totally different thing. And it's because they only look inward and they never look outward. They're never paying attention to other people and they don't have any empathy. I just don't get it.

I just don't know how you walk through the world without any empathy like that. I think it's that actor-observer bias. Like, that's what's at play here. Yeah. It's like, I don't think we should be punishing people. And this is punishment, right? I don't think we should be punishing people with children.

Like the tool to punish people should not be, well, you have a baby now. That's in prison. That's it. Well, it's shitty for the kid. Yeah.

You know, like, oh yeah, you're the, you're the punishment. What do we, what am I being punished for? Irresponsibility,

a perception, not even genuine irresponsibility. A perception by moralistic assholes of possible irresponsibility. We're not judged for irresponsibility in any other factor in our life. There is no larger law or rule. I mean, we're talking about breaking a law, of course,

is not just irresponsible. If I'm irresponsible and I forget to take the garbage out, there's no 20, 30-year consequence to that. Nobody's beating the shit. Right, right, right. I can't think of any other action which can take so little time, be otherwise so genuinely inconsequential. And yet, if the fucking stars align just so, I now have this giant responsibility for it.

Irresponsibility is just sometimes people behave irresponsibly. There's 7 billion of us. responsibly yeah there's there's seven billion of us sometimes people just do something imperfectly whatever it is we do lots of imperfect things and there are very few times where it's like i did an imperfect thing have a baby like like somebody just hands you a baby because you forgot to do the dishes last night sure that's crazy you know uh i wonder too they get this passed because of fucking Brett Kavanaugh, right? Like they get all these bills start making their way there and they finally outlaw abortion, overturn Roe v. Wade.

I'm not saying it's going to happen, but you know, maybe. Maybe, who knows? I wonder if, you know, somebody leaves the country, one of these rich Republicans leaves the country to get an abortion then. And I wonder if that's

criminally prosecuted. Yeah, I don't know. That's interesting. I wonder what happens. And I wonder if it is criminally prosecuted if they come back and then they blame it

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