Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 471: More Power To Him

Episode Date: May 27, 2019

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Cecil. Nancy has got some choice words for the president. Nancy Pelosi is my hero. I want to read what she said here real quick, Tom. All right. She said, initially, she said, I wish that his family or administration or his staff

would have an intervention for the good of the country. She wrote online, she wrote, when the quote extremely stable genius starts acting more presidential I'll be happy to work with him on infrastructure trade and other issues but I guess he

stormed out of their meeting they call a meeting they're going to talk about infrastructure supposedly they show up and he gets flippant. He flips his shit. He starts yelling at him. He doesn't sit down, doesn't do anything.

And then he runs out after a couple minutes and then goes and gives a speech. And after he leaves, Kellyanne Conway says, Kellyanne Conway's like, well, what do you think about something? And she asked Pelosi this. And Pelosi's like, well, I don't talk to his underlings. I talk directly to the president.

That's amazing. I love her so much. It's so amazing. She cannot be fucked with. And I think that like Trump and his whole administration, they didn't, somehow they missed this from history. Like they missed the way that she like took W's entire second administration or second term and was like, oh, really cute, cute, cute. Not under my watch, bitch. And fucking owned him. Like she's the fucking, I love Nancy Pelosi. Like I fucking think she is so great. I love too that like you want to be like, hey man, did you break your crayons when you had your tantrum

do you need a nap right are you a little hungry grown up that had a fucking tantrum we we have we have a guy that like storms out of meetings with the leaders of congress sure like that's what's happening right now and i love it like she's as calm and cool and collected as possible because all those fucking misogynists right now have to eat their words. Watching cool, calm, collected Nancy Pelosi turn him into a fucking tantruming eight-year-old. Yeah. They were also worried about a woman in the White House. Yeah.

Oh, women are emotional. What'll happen if she has her period? She starts bleeding from down there. She's shooting missiles at everyone. First of all, we don't want to talk about her down there parts. If there's a baby in it, we know she has to have it.

That's all we want to know. All we want to know is, is she barefoot? Is she pregnant? Those are the two questions. I want to say this though. And what's interesting about this is she's an elder statesman,

stateswoman. She's been in office for a while. She knows the ropes. She knows what's going on. There's a big push for impeachment and she's not on board. Yeah. There's part of me that realizes

the tactics of the situation, okay? There's tactics involved. You don't want to impeach if it's going to have a problem, like there's going to be some major problem, right? Like if it's going to cost you the next election, you don't want to try to impeach. Like, and I think that she is trying to get rid of Trump because through elections, not through impeachment,

right? And I don't think you're going to get rid of Trump through impeachment, period. I think, I don't think that's going to happen. But one of the things that really ticks me off about this is I recognize and respect her opinion because, you know, we talked about it. I mean, she's great, right? But there's a part of me that really just says like, that's not justice. Yeah, I know. Like that's not justice. That's not what should happen.

We should have a system that when you fuck up and you fuck up at the highest levels of this country, that there is no get out of jail free card. You're not too big to fail. You are, just like everybody else, accountable for your actions. I can't do this stuff outside of the presidency and you shouldn't be able to do it inside the presidency.

And that's what's right. And there's a big part of me that's like, that's not right if we don't do this, if we don't hold him accountable, if we don't say, no, you really did obstruct. No, you really did, you know, quote unquote collude, which isn't a crime, but you did, you fucking did. And I have a problem with that. But I, I, there's a pragmatic side of me. That's like, maybe we should follow what Pelosi has to say. Yeah. Well, what I, what I feel like,

and I don't know for sure, but what I feel like is happening is that she's basically telling party leadership, look, if we impeach, we'll fail. We'll win in the House. We'll lose in the Senate. That's a given. We will create of Trump a martyr for his base. And that might energize people that are otherwise de-energized. I can hold him in check until he's out. And then we can hold him criminally responsible. I think that there is a certain amount of patience that the people have. If we hold him,

see the thing about impeachment is like, if we impeach him, he doesn't go to jail. He just gets fired. So I don't know if that's justice either. Like I agree with you, but like maybe the better term solution is to say, look, I'll hold him at bay. He'll be an ineffective lame duck

for a year and a half. I can stymie every fucking thing that guy's going to try to do for almost two years. And once he's out and he doesn't, and justice is no longer tied to a partisan system,

then he can be tried in a court on obstruction and he can go to jail and maybe that's justice maybe that's a bigger justice in an ideal world it would be you get impeached and then tried and convicted but I wonder if she's not looking at him

being like I don't know that we have this sort of collective patience and if we if he wins the next election because we created him a martyr, he never goes to jail. We lose on every front. But what's interesting is that there are definitely some people out there, especially on the right, that are still defending him. Right.

But I will say, this week, did you see that that guy, one of the representatives, a House member from the GOP laid out a case for impeachment on Twitter. There's like 20 tweets where it's just talking about here's what I read. I read the thing and I think there's a case for impeachment.

I wonder what those people who thought Trump was... Right after that happened and that Barr released his four-page whatever, I don't know if you remember, but Twitter kind of blew up with, oh, see, it's nothing, guys. Ha, ha, ha, you guys were wrong.

I wonder where they're at when their own party is saying, hey, maybe we should impeach this guy. I think they look at that person as a traitor. As an outlier? As an outlier. Oh, it's just one guy, and he's probably got a political motive. There's always a way to dismiss. there's always a way to dismiss.

There's always a way to dismiss any evidence you don't want, right? That's just the thing. It's fascinating to watch, and I have so much respect for Pelosi that I have to think that the pragmatism is what the country needs, you know? And I'm appreciative of that because, like, there's a part of me that's like, man, I want that fucking guy to get fired,

which is all impeachment really is, is he gets fired. And I want him to go to jail. And if I can't have those things, my God, the thing I want most is to break the last two years of his four and not give him a second four. I'll tell you though, you know, what thing I want most is to break the last two years of his four and not give him a second four. I'll tell you though, you know, what I really want is if somebody did do these things and somebody did fuck with our system so badly, I want them to suffer for it forever in history. I want there to be a stain. This is the asterisk next to your name, Mark McGuire. This is the, I want there to be name, Mark McGuire. I want there to be a stain where you're like, yeah, you hit

70x home runs, but it doesn't matter because you fucking lied to everybody and you were juicing like a fucking fiend. It's the same thing. And I feel the same way. I feel like, you know, I want there to be an asterisk next to your judges. I want there to be an asterisk next to your name and everybody else

that, you know, in the future, like, you know, I want there to be an asterisk next to your name and everybody else that, you know, in the future, like, you know, I want that. I want there to be an asterisk next to these people that defended him, Mitch McConnell, all these other people. I want Lindsey Graham. You know, it's so funny. And I know we've said this before, but like, I really believed that history would mark George W. Bush as the worst president in modern history. You know, and I think that in some ways he is the worst president in modern history. And I think that in some ways, he is the worst president in modern history. I think in some ways, he's a worse president than Trump by measurable standards.

Wait till we attack Iran, and then you can have that conversation. I'm worried about that, right? So that's kind of where I was headed. I think Trump is the most corrupt president that we've ever had. I think that there's almost no way around that statement.

Like, he's just the most blatantly corrupt, incorrigible, impossible to defend, morally bankrupt human being we've ever had as president. But at least he didn't get us into, like,

an illegal war with a... But, like, now... But now we're like, are we headed down there? Are we beating the war drums with Iran? Sure. I don't even know how to answer that question. Because in the same week, in the same week on Sunday, Trump tweeted out something like,

never threaten the United States again. Iran will cease to officially exist if you do. I'm paraphrasing, but not by much. Yeah, close. Like, I remember that, yeah. And then Tuesday of this week, he tweeted out, there's no threat from Iran. There never has been.

Like, he's fucking crazy. Yeah. He's crazy. We don't even know where he stands from Sunday to Tuesday on the international issue of, like between Sunday and Tuesday, he said, I would send a hell of a lot more than 120,000 troops in.

I'll make Iran officially not, you know, officially not exist anymore as a state in the world. And then on Tuesday, completely reversed course. Yeah, 100%. What the fuck is going on? Dementia. Like for real, we have... This is why I have to put all my eggs in the Pelosi basket.

Because if she can just render him incapacitated politically, I wonder if that's not the safest thing we can do. Right, it's the safest. I get it. I'm scared right now. Pragnatically, I get it. I get it. But I'm operating from a place of genuine fear.

Yeah. Like, I'm afraid of him now. Like, it's not like, I don't like you. It's like, I think you're fucking nuts, man. Yeah. I think that, you know, him courting the idea of fighting with Iran is so useless, especially after the deal that we had with them.

I know. Thrown up. Just thrown away. So, you know, it's such a stupid thing to do. And yet we court and suck the cock of Saudi Arabia. Oh my God. Like we can't stop. We can't get their cock out of our mouth. And they're doing horrible shit in the world. And it's just an awful shitty state.

And we suck that up. We're just like, yeah, no, finish on our face. We love you. We love you so much. And like to that point, like tweeted out this week was some nonsense about like Iran being the number one state sponsor

of terrorism in the world. And it's like, I don't know, man. I don't know. Saudi Arabia is gunning for that real hard. Like they're gunning for it all the time, real hard. But like we somehow have this bizarre,

incestuous relationship. You know what happened? What? We forgot. Yeah. We were supposed to never forget. And we forgot. Well, it's funny because like we were supposed to never forget 9-11, but it's like, but we don't want to focus on. But we conveniently forget about all the statistics behind it. Yeah. Well, like we didn't even, it wasn't even a story that we forgot. It's a story we didn't tell right. We changed the story as that story was unfolding so that while it was going on, we spun a narrative around it that was just different than the truth about what happened. Sure.

And when we look back at, like, there's a part of me that's like, God, like, I know that history will be filled with radioactive ash. But, like, if that weren't the case, I would like to go to it so I could read the history books and be like, how harshly do we judge the last, you know, 20 years? Like, we had, like, this blip where nothing got done and that was Obama. And we were like, thanks for not making it objectively worse. That was the best we got out of that. Because the eight years

prior and at least four years after have been an utter nightmare. Yeah, 20 years. It's going to be 20 years and the first four that were absolutely a terror. And then the last four of that were absolutely a terror.

And the rest of it is kind of nothing happened. Yeah, right. Yeah. And speaking of which, Tom, we've got to talk about this story to start out. And it's the Harriet Tubman story. Okay, let's talk about this. All right.

So, this story is from the New York Times. Harriet Tubman $20 bill is delayed until Trump leaves office, says Munchen. I gotta say, I am so stoked that we're gonna have Harriet Tubman as the $20 bill. I fucking love this. And I, this fucking flew

under or over or through or past my radar before. I didn't know that this was gonna happen. I didn't know. I'm sure it was a big deal, but it was something that just, I just missed it in the cycle. Right?

And so it was something that when I heard about it, I was like, oh, we're going to have a new $20 bill and it's not going to be a horrible, awful person. I know, right? It's just like, that's amazing. It's like, it's like we give out a KKK $20 bill. You know, we give out a Nazi $20 bill. Right now on the $20 bill is Andrew Jackson. If give out a Nazi $20 bill. Right now,

on the $20 bill is Andrew Jackson. If you want to learn a little bit about him, you can head over to Citation Needed. We did an episode about Andrew Jackson.

Not the best guy. He's somebody that Trump really admires. He is. That's why I chose him. He's not somebody you're like, that's my guy

unless you're awful. Yeah. And what's interesting is we chose it because he's awful, but Trump chooses him because he respects him. And this guy is worried that Trump will just

cancel the whole thing. So what happened is the Obama administration said, all right, in 2020, there's going to be a new $20 bill printed out. It's going to be new. Here's the design. Harriet Tubman's going to be the face on it. God, print it out. It's going to be new. Here's the design. Harriet Tubman's going to be the face on it. God, I love it.

You know, and so I think this is very conspicuous. They didn't cancel the $20 Tubman bill. What they did is they kicked it down the road until if it happens, it happens when Trump

is no longer in office. Right. And the racism embedded in that is so obvious. It's so obvious. Like you can't, you literally can't miss it. Why does it only happen after Trump is out?

Because if Trump lets it happen, his racist base will beat the shit out of him for allowing a black person to be on the 20. If he cancels it, any non-racists that are in his base, both of you. Yeah. Are you listening? Both of you. They will have to stand up and take notice of this.

Yes. They'll be forced to contend with it. And then they will bite their cheek very hard when they vote for him again. God damn it. Well, I still don't like it when you kill a baby or whatever your fucking nonsense is, you monsters. Not a baby. So, but like, kicking it down the road

is his way of saying like, I don't want to contend with it because it's just a political loser for me as a racist. It's only a political loser if you're a racist. The only way it's bad for you. I mean, it really is the, you know,

damned if you do damned if you don't for Trump. Because, you know, for any other normal person out there, they'd be like, yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I can't wait to announce it in the Rose Garden. I can't wait to do it. I want to have a giant check size $20 bill. I want the first one, and I'm going to go spend it on hamburgers.

Yeah, exactly, right? You'd be so excited. I would make it rain on my staff. 20s for everybody. It's so amazing. But it's like, like you're right. If he comes out and gives some speech, he'll probably be like, Hey, Tubman, I hear good things about her. She's getting the recognition. She's getting the recognition that she deserves. She's really her and Frederick Douglas are getting the recognition that she deserves. I forgot about that. She's really, her and Frederick Douglass are getting married, I think. I don't know. They're calling

him Freddie-it. It's a Hollywood couple. But don't worry, I won't give him an apartment. I don't know if their name is Freddie-it or Harriet. Harriet. Elliot! We represent the Lollipop Guild! The Lollipop Guild! The Lollipop Guild!

The Lollipop Guild! We wish you welcome to Munchkin's land! You know, Tom, while we're talking about Munchkin, let's continue. All right. So this is from the New York Times as well. IRS memo undercuts Munchkin. Is it really M-N-U-C-H-I-N? I don't think they would misspell it in the New York Times.

Huh. Okay. Let me read. Mnuchin. I'm going to redo it. Mnuchin. Maybe I don't know how to pronounce this. I'll try it again.

New York Times. IRS memo undercuts Mnuchin. Mnuchin. Mnuchin? Maybe I don't know how to pronounce this. I'll try it again. New York Times. IRS memo undercuts Mnuchin. Mnuchin. Mnuchin. Mnuchin. I don't know. Mnuchin. Someone will send us a correct pronunciation.

Third time's a charm. IRS memo undercuts nunchucks on withholding. Who spells their name like that? Jackie Chin. What sound does M-N-U make? I know. He needs to talk to Pat Sajak and buy a vowel in there.

Alright. Maybe just move the, you know, like, move the U over one space. Moon Chin. Undercovers Moon Shoes on withholding Trump's tax returns. I can't even get past that headline. All right, so basically,

like, they were like, hey, there's no good legislative reason for you to see these tax returns. And then the IRS

and the courts were like, yep, yeah, no, there's a lot of actually really good reasons. And a part of that argument, too,

is they were saying, like, Congress doesn't have the authority to get these documents. And Congress was like, no, we're Congress, you see. Well, first of all, we do. We implicitly have that authority as specified in numerous places. But also, by the way, we could pass a law that says we have that authority. We're the guys that make laws. Like, that's our thing.

You know what's crazy is not only were they refusing this, not only was Barr pushing the limits on things, but McGahn this week decided not to show up. Oh, he was told by Trump. Trump's like, don't go. Yeah, and he did. He didn't. And it's like, it's so crazy to me. You know, we've spent our whole life

thinking this system has teeth. We spent our whole life thinking that there's some repercussion to this, that if this goes down, if you get called on the carpet to Congress, you better go over there and you better crawl your way over to your chair and drink your bottle of water and listen to the senators yell at you for a couple hours. You better take your licks. But if they were to call Zuckerberg zuckerberg in the future why wouldn't he just say no yeah why wouldn't he just be like no there's nothing you could do about it what what are you gonna do i'm gonna hold you contempt of congress i have contempt for congress cool

what what now i remember when i took civics class it's government for you know like yeah different shit different states civics is just the, we learned, and it was venerated, the idea that we have a checks and balances system. Right. Like, I remember, like, learning about the sort of almost sacred place that checks and balances held in our system. It was the thing that kept us from despotism, right? It was one of the structural geniuses of the Constitution that we, you know we know and love and fucking wipe our bald eagle nuts against.

But if we don't have real checks and balances, if there's no teeth to any of this, then all of that is just fucking word salad. All of that is just fucking sound and fury signifying nothing. It matters not a whit if this doesn't have teeth. You know, what this article says is that, you know, basically the IRS does have to produce these documents. They are required to produce these documents. The next thing that's going to happen almost assuredly is Trump will claim executive privilege to not have to release these documents. And executive privilege is basically the like, I'm too important to follow these certain rules.

And that can be challenged in the courts. No, thank you. And that will get challenged. And then I wonder like, how much further can he go to stop? And if you're a defender of Trump, I would like to know, and I'm being genuine,

like why not just produce them? Right. Why fight so hard if there's nothing there? Yeah. And, like, maybe there's nothing there. But what I find just, like, appalling is, like, the complete lack of transparency again and again and again and again and again and again. And then, like, it makes you feel like, what the fuck are you always hiding?

Yeah. Why are you, why are you pulling back? I'd be like, if every time you walked in the room, Cecil, I just put my arm behind my back real fast. Even if I didn't have anything in it.

Sure. Yeah. You know, you'd be like, what, why are you doing that? Please don't do that. You are making me,

like you're gaslighting me with this crazy shit. And you're absolutely right. It's, you know, I get, and I do understand a level of harassment, right? And I understand it when it comes to say, you know, the way black people are racially profiled, right, when they drive down the street and they get pulled over

and they might not be doing anything, but they don't want to comply because they weren't doing anything wrong. And then they wind up getting shot and you're like, well, why didn't you just comply in the first place? So I understand the argument, right? I do understand the argument, but the difference is, is that there's smoke here,

right? The difference is, is that this isn't just harassment. This isn't just congressional harassment because they don't like him. This is, there's clear evidence from other sources that are showing that he, that we really should take a look at these tax returns because we think there is serious wrongdoing. That's why. Because, you know, if you're rolling behind a, you know, a car and they're flashing a gun, that's probable cause, right? That's why you pull them over and that's why you, you know. So there's a difference, right? There's a difference when there's some sort of probable cause versus, well, you're just harassing me because I'm, you're racially profiling me.

That's a different story, right? And the problem is that they're going to point to that and say, oh, well, that's it. Well, you call that bullshit. Yeah, well, that's because it is bullshit. This is a moment where we clearly have probable cause to go after some of this stuff. And they're still stonewalling. Well, it's like, if you don't want to live under a microscope, don't ask to be president.

That's also true too, right? Like my ability to feel anything for you, like nobody asked you to be president. Yeah. You know, it wasn't like there was like this fucking vote where we said, oh my God, everybody in America voted and we really want you to run. And you were like, oh no, not me.

You didn't get voluntold, right? Yeah, right. Yeah, you fucking, you did it. You begged for that job. You did it because you wanted, you wanted everybody to call you President Trump. That's why you did it. I have no sympathy.

Like if you want to fly under that fucking, yeah, I want to be prom king. That's what you want. You want to be prom king. You want to fly under that fucking radar. Don't volunteer for the most fucking high profile position on earth. Yep.

What the fuck is wrong with you? You don't get to claim like, oh, it's a violation of my privacy. Get the fuck out of here. You said I don't want any privacy. That's built into the job. Yeah. You get none of it. And if you don't like it, then all you have to do is not be president,

which is what everybody else is doing right now. Yeah. Like everybody else. All of us. All the rest of us. I would hate being president. Would you like me? I would never want to do it. I would hate to be a real celebrity. I would hate to have anybody look in my past because I just don't want to have to do it. I just don't want to do it. I don't want anybody looking at my present. I'm being perfectly honest. Like, I would hate to be an actual celebrity in the world. That would be a horror to me. Like, oh, I can't go to dinner.

I can't go to the grocery store. I can't, you know, take a shit in a Starbucks bathroom. Like, I can't do any of the things that I just do. Like, without getting, like, bombed with people who have a fucking right perceived or granted, in this case, granted to my privacy. The president, by asking to be in public office, you are granting the public access and you are rejecting privacy. That's built into the fucking job. I don't want to get into debate about climate change, but I will just simply point out that I think in academia, we all agree that the temperature on Mars is exactly as it is here. Nobody will dispute that.

Yet there are no coal mines on Mars. There's no factories on Mars that I'm aware of. Stories from The Guardian. Why The Guardian is changing the language it uses about the environment. So The Guardian is changing the language it uses about the environment. So the Guardian is changing its use of terms. It's not using climate change anymore. It's calling it a climate emergency, climate crisis,

or climate breakdown. And it's now global heating favored over global warming. And really what they're saying is we want to be more precise. It's not change. It's a crisis. Like, we are at a point

where, like, calling it change, if something changes, it's not necessarily bad. Right. Right. Right? Like, there's sort of an idea

like, well, what if we like some of the changes? Hey! There was people who would say that. There were people who were saying that. I could use a little warmth up here in the Midwest. Yep, that's absolutely what they're saying.

Well, maybe winter doesn't have to be six months long. Well, we'll just move the crops. That was one of the things that they were saying too. It's like, we'll just move the crops to where the new area is. And you're like, yeah, but you realize that there's like farmers now in those other places, right? If you just move the crops and they're out of luck, like what do you do? It's like you realize there's less land mass, right? Like there's less land for us now.

And there will be. And like that, we don't get it back. It's not like the tide will come in and then we'll be like, I'm sad. It's gone now. Like Manhattan won't exist. Miami won't exist now. Manhattan won't exist. Miami won't exist. Yeah.

Fiji won't exist. New Orleans won't exist. That's, there are some good sides we haven't talked about. New Orleans. Like there's, there's parts of the world

which won't be parts of the world anymore. Yeah. That's, that is not, that is from everything that that's happening. Yeah.

It's not like, oh, maybe. Like, it's coming to a fucking theater near you. Yeah. Calling it climate change makes it seem like something we can adjust to. Yeah. And there will be parts of the climate crisis that we cannot adjust to, that we will fail to adjust to. And life will get worse in substantial ways that we, from all estimates, we can't pull back from.

And we can't even predict how bad it'll be, right? That's the problem is you can predict some of it, but you can't predict, you don't know the extent of it. And we just live in a world that is, it's not immediate enough for us to care. It's gonna be down the road. We're kicking the can down the road. We're kicking the can down the road. We're kicking the can down the road. And we're just gonna,

like there's never a moment in our worldview where we think, I recognize that what I can do is survive on less. What I can do is survive on less. What I can do is survive on less, live a life that's a little more hard technologically and say energy wise, and that's okay. And I don't need to consume a whole bunch of stuff and I don't need to buy a whole bunch of stuff

and I don't need to throw away a whole bunch of stuff. We don't do that. We don't check ourselves. There's never been a reason to do it. And there's no great movement to start it. Humans could be extinct eventually because of this. You know, could happen. Yeah.

Could happen. Maybe we're adaptable, so maybe not. But like, I think there's, it's sort of like when we talk about like the issue of like vaccination, right? Like there's extinction, which is mortality. And then there's all the rest of the things which are just bad to live through. Like, really awful to live through.

Like, it's almost certain that, like, water shortages will be a problem. And that water shortages will create, you know, resource shortages, which cause conflict, global conflict and regional conflicts. Like the world would be less stable as a result of the shrinking of resources and the expanded competition for those resources. Like there's nothing terribly controversial about those thoughts, about those prognostications. It seems more inevitable than unlikely.

What occurs to me when you were talking is like, there doesn't seem to be like a movement you can join, like a community that you can attach to to learn about that's like, that's simple, that like connects you to your neighbor. You know what I mean? Like it all feels so overly individualistic that it's challenging.

Maybe there's online communities and things, but I'm talking about like face-to-face. Like this is what we as a subdivision are doing. This is what we as a block are doing. This is what we as a city are doing. It seems like the onus is on the individual to be this sort of aesthetic outlier. And that feels hopeless

in the face of these mountainous industrial problems. Yeah, yeah. And I'll tell you, I'm just waiting for them to come out with the colored ribbon to put on my car to fix it all. Once they do that, then I'll be good. I think I'll be fine. Whatever color, it is green probably. I would think I'll be fine. Whatever color it is,

green probably. I would imagine it'll be green. I hope it's made out of plastic. Hopefully it's a very, very, very toxic magnet. I'm not going to stand here and present some egghead scientific argument

based on fact. I'm just a regular dude. I like to drink beer. You know, I love my family. These liberals are trying to assassinate my character. I can't change their mind. I won't change my mind because I don to drink beer. You know, I love my family. These liberals are trying to assassinate my character. I can't change their mind. I won't change my mind because I don't have to.

Because I'm an American. He's got a point. This story is from the Washington Post. Conservatives' junk science is having real consequences. This is going to roll back to the abortion talk we had last week. So, you know, I want to pause before we go too far in to the, to the story. And it's like, if you voted and you're like one, or you didn't vote rather, and you feel like it's pointless stories like this are why it's not pointless. And I know we've talked about this before. I

want to harp on it too much longer, but like, the anti-intellectualism, anti-science, anti- reality mindset of the entire GOP is going to ruin things for us. Like, even if you don't like the Democrats,

I get that. That's fine. Like, I get it. But you do have to make a decision about who you dislike more and try to get the guys you dislike more to have less influence. Because when you have a group of people who hold power that don't believe science works, that don't believe that expertise is worthwhile, we are going to fuck things up and fuck things up and fuck things up in ways that will never get better. And it's really bad when it comes to abortion, because a lot of these people that are passing these laws are making absurd, ridiculous claims

and then keep on falling back with, well, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a scientist, I'm not this, but I'm willing to make a law to restrict women. Right. And that's like, I guess that's what I meant by like the expertise. Yeah, exactly. Right. Yeah. Like we should not have a group of people commenting on something outside their area of expertise.

Right. Like you and I do it. Right. But we're jokesters. We got a podcast. We're not lawmakers. We're not like, no one's calling Tom to the fucking halls of power

to ask him what he thinks about a topic. Like, I wouldn't even want to go if you asked. Like, I'd be like, wait, I don't know anything. You can't find a better person? Right. That is on you. I don't know. Just You can't find a better person? Right. That is on you. I don't know just because I'm loud and no matter how

influential I ever were to become my ability to wield influence in no way correlates to whether or not I am knowledgeable about something. Right. And the right can't get this straight. The right can't figure out that there's a difference between expertise

and the volume of your fucking voice. there's a difference between expertise and the volume of your fucking voice there's a there's a quote from this this is a uh a guy by the name of uh chambliss chambliss i don't know who this person is he's a senator a senator from alabama where from alabama okay and this was when they were arguing that law, the horrid law that basically says no more abortion. He similarly was confused about how a doctor who under the law would face imprisonment for assisting with abortion would discern between the identical symptoms

of a woman miscarrying, which would still be legal, and one having a medication-induced abortion. Quote, the burden of proof would be on the prosecution, end quote, he said, thus opening the 25% of pregnancies that end in miscarriages to law enforcement probes. 25% because you wouldn't be able to determine whether or not she took something in order to induce this

all because they want to outlaw abortion, right? Not because they want to follow Roe v. Wade and make it, you know, much harder the longer the pregnancy is. No, they want none. They want none. That's why. And when you start legislating none, then you start really getting

into this weird gray area where it's like miscarriages might be bad too. Well, I mean, that's an impossible standard, right? Like, the miscarriage thing is an impossible standard. It's just part of the human animal. Like, it's just a thing that happens frequently as human.

But they don't think any of this through. None of this is thoughtfully designed at all, you know? We're going to criminalize. If you make something illegal, what does it mean for something to be illegal? And if it has consequences, we're going to criminalize this event. And then we're going to have to adjudicate whether or not an event was induced by a person or induced by nature. And there will be collateral damage.

We talked about collateral damage. There will be collateral damage on this. There will be. We're going to make mistakes if we criminalize. You will. And we're going to, even if you make one mistake,

think about the horror of that. If you make one mistake, there's going to be a woman out there who lost a child to a miscarriage and then went to fucking prison for it. Yeah. There is a 100% surety

that the great state of Alabamers is going to be the one that makes that mistake. They may make that mistake. Because it's a garbage state with the lowest education in the nation. Another thing that they did, they're talking about Ohio in this article, and it says, the author of a bill banning insurance coverage for

non-life-threatening abortions included an exception for a fictitious procedure in which a doctor implants the fetus from an ectopic pregnancy in the uterus. The bill also appears inadvertently to ban

coverage of IUDs and possibly birth control pills. But they think of it like it includes a fake procedure, like one that doesn't even happen because these guys like they read news stories.

Well, yeah, they fearmonger this stuff that sounds horrible, right? It's just like when they stand out outside of Planned Parenthood with the fucking, the mangled babies. Yeah, and those aren't abortions. But it's like, yeah,

that was like a fucking, it's like a three-year-old in a stroller that somebody stuck a fucking knife in and they're like, no, that's like yeah that was like a fucking it's like a three year old in a stroller that somebody stuck a fucking knife in and they're like no that's what an abortion looks like

it's like reading a book yeah exactly it's like Ronald Reagan had it in his casket and they're like no that's an abortion that's what they look like I want to read what

Clyde Chambliss also from Alabama what he said he said I'm not trained medically and then there's a comma but there should be a period. Yeah. Right.

It should just stop there. You should be like, I'm not trained medically, so I don't get to talk about this anymore. Yeah. I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. What are the experts? Anyway, it goes on. I'm not trained medically, so I don't know the proper medical terminology and timelines. terminology and timelines.

But from what I've read, what I've been told, there's some period of time before you can know a woman is pregnant. It takes some time for all those chromosomes and all that. I don't have a clue what that sentence

means. Hey, neither does he. I know! I know! Overall, it takes time for all the chromosomes. You want to, you want, don't you want the follow-up question to be, sir, what is a chromosome? Sir, can you explain that to me, sir? Is it good or bad to have more chromosomes? So like, we're going to be like a thousand dollars. Yeah. You can't tell me what a chromosome is. $1,000. You can't tell me the number of chromosomes either. You know, what's crazy to me is that we covered the stories last week that talked about this abortion bill. And, you know, it was implicit in that that these guys didn't know what the fuck they were talking about.

But then when you read some of the things, the actual direct quotes from these fools, you realize, oh my God, it's implicit before, but now it's explicit. They like have no fucking idea what they're talking about. And they're legislating their fee fees. That's what they're legislating. They're legislating their feelings. It makes me feel bad when you get an abortion and I feel real bad about it.

And I want to make sure that I legislate against it. It's funny too, because it's like, if they were just, I would have no respect, but I would not be as like incensed, I guess, in the same way. If they just said like, I think it's wrong,

the Bible. Yeah. Instead, they like come up with these like, well, you know, I once read a story about the chromosomes. Yeah.

It's like, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. You don't know.

You don't actually care. That's not what swayed your opinion. That has nothing to do. Don't rationalize. Cut that shit out. You're a fucking ignoramus. Just say, I think it's wrong. The Bible. And then I'd be like, alright, that is your unassailable

stupid fucking position. But this like, well, I once learned how to spell science and chromosome, and I did the 23 in me. You know what I mean? What the fuck? 22 in you, I think. 22 and baby makes three? I don't know.

I did 24 and more, but I couldn't read after I was done. I got a whole sack of White Castles. This is a 24 pack. All this post hoc quasi-science rationalization, just be honest. That's what Ken Ham does.

I know. Ken Ham's like, I will pick all the parts that agree with what I agree with and I will throw away and make a turtle without a shell looks like a turd monster. I'll throw everything away and make up an animal. You know what I mean? Like that's what I'll do. But I will find, I will be like, oh no but this little

tiny bit of science may match kind of what I'm thinking of if I distort it enough so I'll use it. And if I make sure I don't read much else. Yeah. And I don't look on the, don't look immediate to the left or immediately to the right. If I keep my blinders on this bit of science may make sense. And the same thing here, you know, you're not talking about any of the other things that, that, you know, could negatively impact the woman or, you know, we're not talking about the miscarriages,

how that can really, you know, really change how you're even enforcing this law. You don't even want to bring it up instead. It's just, well, I guess we'll just have to investigate all those miscarriages then. Oh, well. One in four. So then, like, if you had a miscarriage and you didn't tell anybody, would that be hiding a crime? Would you

be... You know what I mean? Like, it's just so problematic. The whole thing is just so fucking problematic. You get a miscarriage in a forest. And there's no judge to adjudicate. And there's no senator there to shame you. The human body, including the skin, is an antenna. We are electromagnetic electrical organisms,

transmitters and receivers of information. 5G is a weapon used by the military. Oh, Jesus Christ. This is from the New York Times. Your 5G phone won't hurt you, but Russia wants you to think otherwise. Now, before anybody gets excited about 5G, just remember that what we should get is 6 or 8G. We need to be going. Can we just get infinite Gs? I just want infinity G. or 8G? We need to be going.

Can we just get infinite Gs? I just want infinity G. I worry that 5G is only 25% stronger than 4G. That's how it works. What I want to get is one of those old Nokia flip,

like block phones and get OG. That's what I want. Look, you can play Snake on here. I'll tell you, you can fucking throw one of those things

at a truck and it'll fucking break the here. I'll tell you, you can fucking throw one of those things at a truck, and it'll fucking break the truck. Do you remember the... I had one of those Nokia stick phones. The stick phones. Those things were indestructible. I had it in my visor in my car with my window open, and I merged onto I-80 at like 60 miles an hour,

and it went... It flew out of my visor out onto the expressway. Ba-dunk, ba-dunk, ba-dunk, bounced. I pulled my car over. I got the two pieces. The two pieces were the phone and the battery. I clipped them back together

and that fucker worked for years. Just had a scratch on it or something? It had a scratch on the face. I was just like, yeah, cool. It's an indestructible phone. Those phones were unbelievably indestructible. It's so funny because if you,

like I've seen people drop their iPhone, it's just shatters. And you're just like, wah, wah. You could fucking shoot that thing out of like a World War II old timey cannon and hit a tank with it and then make a call. Do you remember when we used to take my old cell phones up to Michigan and shoot them?

Yeah. And those old BlackBerrys, we'd shoot them with a fucking shotgun and they'd be like. Whatever. Yeah, I'd still. Yeah. Like it still would work. Like what you need to do is you need to take your kid and just make him a suit of BlackBerrys and send him to school. He'll be safe.

Be 100% safe during the next shooting action there. It'll be perfectly fine. So this is this story is fucking crazy because like the, the 5G is really just the next generation of wireless technology. That's all that 5G is.

And it's, it's what, what they are defining. You asked last time, you said, is it a designation in the sort of wavelengths? And I didn't know,

but I said it definitely stands for generation. If you, if you look at this article, there is a graph that shows you where, sorry,, there is a graph that shows you where, sorry, it's like a diagram that shows you where on the 5G radio spectrum,

where the spectrum it's going to be. It will be a higher frequency. So like the existing cell phones, I guess go up to three gigahertz. And the 5G cell phones will go higher than 30, but below 300 gigahertz. And as you can see that setup, I really don't like the way this graph works

because the way the graph works, if people see it, it's basically trying to, it extends out a section of it, but it kind of looks like the 5G is sort of even with x-rays, which is not true. It's not, it's not. It's really a misleading graph.

But basically, what you were saying last time, is it a higher frequency? Yes, it's a higher frequency. It's going to be transmitting at a higher frequency than current cell phones. But they've said that that's actually safer for us than lower frequencies, which is, again, it's funny because it's new. And it's also one of those third world problems, like, you know, like, uh, vaccines or whatever, or first world problems where it's just like, like, I don't have anything, you know, with lack of everything else to bitch about, I'm going to bitch. I'm find something wrong with this,

like amazing technology that connects every human on the planet if it wants to. And then we're going to find something wrong with it and we're going to nitpick all this stuff. But what's crazy is that Russia, through their RT network, is actually spreading a lot of misinformation about this to, I think, try to hold back and create controversy in other places to try to slow the growth of this technology

in other places so that they can keep doing it. Well, yeah, and it's like, we are so ripe for this kind of misinformation campaign. And Russia knows it because they've spread misinformation campaigns a number of times successfully. And the RT network is a network which had a lot of influence during the 2016 election. And what they're doing is putting out videos. It's like, 5G is cool,

but do you know your new phone can kill you? And all this other nonsense. And that is going to speak to that mindset where people don't have an education, not just in the technology, because I don't either, but they don't have an education in terms of how do I vet information? How do I know what's true? Who is a real expert? Where does expertise come from? How do I find sources that are

reliable, trustworthy sources? We don't have good digital literacy. We don't have good digital literacy, we don't have good digital critical thinking skills. And because we lack that, we are absolutely ripe for this kind of nonsense. It's part of what allowed the anti-vax movement to spread, you know, this inability to separate good information from bad, that we have the ability to spread information faster than we have the ability to vet information. We're better at one than we are at the other. Yeah, yeah. And like, we're going to miss out. And if we miss out and other countries dig this in first, you know, this is more than just your cell phone.

The 5G technology, like one of the things is to connect all kinds of different devices. You know, right now there's lots of different ways to connect Bluetooth, etc. But the idea is to interconnect a number of different smart devices, which will really alter the way that our device interactions work. He who does that first wins. So this is an attempt to slow it down. Slow it down. By preying on our credulity.

Sure. Yeah. It's real sad that that's where we're at. But there is a group of people, like you're right, that are distrustful of mainstream media because they get over and over and over again, they hear we should be distrustful of mainstream media. We should be distrustful.

And so when they hear anything on a normal station, that's like, oh, this is just bullshit. They won't listen to it. They're going to listen to that alternative media source, which is their direct, you know, which is really just unvetted garbage. Right. And it's just something that got shared by someone that got shared. They got somebody that

got shared. Because there's no other way for this to spread. Yeah. So it sounds like Adam and Eve has changed and they are not swinging for the fences anymore.

They are not. See, so they have other offers, bigger, girthier offers. Bigger, wider. You know, the thing is

what you want is more so you can put them in different places. That's what I hear a lot. I want more. You need more. I can't do that. And here's the thing. Adam and Eve

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And you'll get all of that free stuff, 50% off any item and free shipping. This story comes from Right Wing Watch. More power to him. Mark Taylor predicts Trump will impose martial law to round up his political enemies. Oh, okay. That's good. That's safe.

I'm glad that that's where we've gone to, where suddenly they're just like, no, it's cool. Martial law is cool. Yeah. Well, what you want to do in the game of politics is basically whatever you would do in the game of politics um is basically whatever you would do in the game of thrones like there's no difference you should ride your dragon

and destroy entire cities god if he had a dragon and you should take your army and cut off their penises that's a terror no i've joined the army how do you join that's a tough sell that army's a tough that's a tough sell that is tough you know I don't even know like it's it's not the GI Bill that's for sure that you're getting afterwards this is good news

this is everything we've been praying about Chris right now is about to come to pass we're seeing it come to fixing to come to already

like you can't have good news about something that isn't happening yet. Like, he's talking like, this is good news. We're seeing what's about to happen. Well, it's not news yet. You're just making stuff up that hasn't happened.

Cecil, great news. I won the lottery next week. I can't wait. Great news. It is great news. That is great news. I know. I'm super excited for you.

I'm as excited as you are for this great news that I won the lottery next week. What? You're a fucking asshole. That's what you are. You're an asshole. And we know what the great news is.

The great news is the same thing that Q's been spouting off. The great news is the same thing that Liz Vandersteel or whatever, I'm conflating two of them. I don't even care. But what they're spouting off the entire time, which is the mass arrests of all these people

who were on the left is going to start happening. And he's like, this is great news. This is basically what's happening is the mass arrests are going to happen. And you're just like, have you guys been paying attention? All we're getting is stonewalled by Trump to get any of the other information.

He's telling people not to testify. He's basically like, no, I didn't do anything. Stop investigating me. Stop investigating me. Stop investigating me. And so like, that's basically where we're at in our country right now. We're at a spot in our country

where a president is clearly acting shady as fuck. Yep. Shady as fuck. And we're all just like, no, man, you're going to arrest the other side soon. We're at a place where the president is saying, I refuse to be the president until soon. We're at a place where the president is saying, I refuse to be the president until you stop investigating.

I know. This is what he said today. That's what he said today. He literally came out in a temper tantrum in the Rose Garden and said, I am not going to work with the legislature on legislation, which is his fucking job, until you stop investigating. Cut it out or I won't president anymore. Yeah, he basically was like, we can only do one thing at a time.

Yeah. It's an unbelievable thing to say out loud. Like, I am not going to, I'm not going to discharge my responsibilities as president. I don't know how you're a, fuck the American people. I don't know how you're a Trump supporter, and you look at that and say,

no, that's okay, that's fine. That's fine. That's fine. I don't want my government to get anything done unless somebody is nicer to the crook. Especially infrastructure, like in Joliet, which is a city, a small city by Chicago. It's maybe 40 minutes Southwest of Chicago. There's a bridge out there. And I was watching a news report on this bridge and they rate bridges on like 1 to 100 scale their soundness

okay is 100 good? 100 is good the bridge what do you think the number on the bridge was and it's the bridge that goes over the canal it's a pretty tall bridge and it's on I-80 so it's an I-80 bridge the big bridge over the canal. It's a pretty tall bridge and it's on I-80. So it's an I-80 bridge.

The big bridge over? Over the canal in... Oh, God. Yeah. What do you think that's at? I've driven that a lot. 70? Six.

Pardon me? Are you serious right now? I wish I was kidding. Six? That is six. Six out of 100? Six out of 100. I'm pretty sure it's

out of a hundred that's a huge bridge yeah it's a four-lane bridge that's a massive bridge yeah that's an i-80 bridge yeah and it could collapse right now it's probably check the news it's probably on the news right now structurally intolerable six out of a hundred yeah I was right god damn that's scary. I'm not driving on that bridge. So the display, it's called the Desplaines River Bridge. And it is a six,

more than 42,000 drivers drive across the Desplaines River Bridge every day. The most recent inspection is a 6 out of 100. So sufficiency rating, a 6 out of 100. Anything below 80 is considered deficient. So it's six out of 100. And this is a bridge that thousands of people cross each day. And this part of this money, this thing that they were supposed to be talking about, this infrastructure, $5 trillion plan for infrastructure was supposed to be talking about, this infrastructure, $5 trillion plan for infrastructure, was supposed to be talked about. That bridge should be top of the list

on infrastructure in the United States. And it's an interstate. And that's one of the problems, one of the reasons why it's not being fixed is because nobody can decide where the money comes from. So we have this issue where is it state? Is it city? Is it federal government who supplies the

money to fix this bridge all the while it's ticking down ticking down ticking down well past 80 which is 80 is considered 80 deficient this is six so you know this is important stuff and i guarantee this is not the only bridge in the united States that's like this. I guarantee it, right? You know, you walk around Chicago and you just see like crumbling infrastructure all over the place. We have an absolutely, I mean, that's a great way to describe it, right? A crumbling infrastructure. It's all over the country. And he's so petulant, he won't have a conversation with other people because they're still investigating him. And this important piece of work that is crossing party lines. It's not that

one side is like, well, I don't want no safe-ass bridges. Only Democrats fall off the bridge. Like, you're going to abort your babies on that bridge. There's nobody out there that's like, no, I think we all want safe bridges. But he's going to throw

a fucking temper tantrum. That's genuinely terrifying. It is. It is. The past right now. So when does this actually happen? I don't know. Now, notice he said it that way.

Great news. Not sure what's going to happen. Here's the thing. I don't know when it's going to happen or what it's going to be. But when it does, it's going to shoot you from normal brain into galaxy brain. One tweet about the immigration stuff. We have to get our forces in place. So I don't know if he's going to declare martial law,

which we've been warning about. God's been, you know, kind of hinting around that there could be. God's been hinting around. Look, here's the thing. I don't tell people right away. What I do is I just, what I do is I ride it on like a little bingo sheet and then if you go down to do the little corner bingo what is it like a scavenger

hunt with like national treasure clues i don't know i don't know i went i went up the fucking nose of the mount rushmore president inside with a treasure chest and written on it was god's fucking note he passed me in high school. What are you fucking kidding me with this? Are you kidding? You just see Nicolas Cage's face. God's been hitting around at it. What I like is that he's going to start

talking and he already did start talking about martial law. He's kind of giddy about it. He wants there to be martial law. There could be an opportunity for martial law here, or could he declare a national emergency? I don't know which way the president's going to go. I'm not prophesying either one. Well, the last time he tried to declare a national emergency,

it didn't really work out so well. Yeah, his national emergency did not build a wall. Yeah, there's a good possibility we could have martial law, and it almost sounds like from the tweets that they may do all this at one shot. But that's a mass arrest of the illegals or mass arrest of the elites

as far as these criminals. What about elite illegals? I don't think she can be. I don't think she can be. I'm not sure who's going to get mass arrested as long as somebody gets mass arrested. Here's the thing. I just want the other mass arrested.

So whoever the other is, if it's the elites, if it's the illegals, I don't care as long as it's not me, right? I'm going to be fine. Here's a list of people I'm afraid of. If you could just arrest them, they're scary. Can you do me a favor and liquidate them? Criminals are concerned, whatever the case may be. So what I've been telling people,

and this is not doom and gloom. This is just telling you just to be prepared. If he does declare martial law, it will be a temporary thing. I don't feel like most martial laws are temporary. When dictators come into power, like, don't worry. It's just going to be like a day.

It's only going to be a few hours. You're going to be fine. Look, it's only one Reich lawn. Here's what I'm going to be a few hours. You're going to be fine. Look, it's only one Reich lawn. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm just going to take away all your rights, okay? But I promise, absolutely, cross my heart, hope to die, I will give them back in an hour. Look, your house isn't going to be on fire all day.

Yeah. All right? At some point, it will be reduced to cinder and ash, and the house. Okay. A lot of that, a lot of that's going to go bad first. What makes me nuts is that there's a guy here sitting here

just be like, don't worry, it's going to be fine. Martial law will be fine. Could you imagine any, like if we're talking about Pelosi and be like, guys, look,

she's going to decide martial law, but it's going to be okay. It's going to be fine. I can be like, are you kidding me? Right. Somebody needs to take Pelosi out. Like, I would, there's no

chance that I would think that, you know? Martial law in the, like, everything stops. Everything collapses. Think about how bad this would be. The economy immediately collapses. Immediately. There's martial law. Like, our money is not backed by anything

except for good wishes. Hope. Yeah. Hope and change. Our money is backed by the full faith and credit of the United States Treasury. It's mostly change. Like, everything goes to shit immediately. Yeah.

Like, you're not going to work like it's normal day. It's fucking martial law would be a big, a national. Yeah, that's a holiday. Yeah. Should we boat? It's like a snow day. It's fucking martial law. It would be a big, a national holiday. Yeah, that's a holiday. Yeah. Should we boat? It's like a snow day. I think it would last longer than maybe a week or two at the most. So you just may want to have some food stocked up in your house.

That's all. That'll help you. That's it. It's going to help you. And then what they do is they flip the switch called the country's back again. And then the country is all okay again. That's how everybody's fine. Yeah. It's that one thing.

You're like, hey guys, look, it's called a takesies-backsies martial law. We're allowed to do those. It's worth the food for you and your family just in case

you can't go anywhere. But again, if he declares martial law, hey, more power to him. That's literally what martial law would be. More power to him. That's literally what martial law would be. More power to him. You know what?

In this democracy, if the president just declares himself temporary emperor, that's cool. We're all right with that. I mean, we don't want a permanent emperor, Tom. Don't be ridiculous. This is America where we have freedom until the president says for a little while, we don't.

Until I give it back to you, we won't have it. You know what I mean? Round them up, get them out, whatever the case may be. When he rounds these people up, when you see these indictments start to drop, will they take the top six, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, and all these guys, and that may be the start of it.

That could be the start of it, but I think there's going to come a point, Chris, where they're going to have to shut it down. That could be the start of it. But I think there's going to come a point, Chris, where they're going to have to shut it down. I mean, shut the country down. I see it too, Mark. Shut the country down for a couple of days and then send them out. Oh, just, we're just going to turn off America. Have you tried turning it on and turning it off again?

Yeah, so you're on the phone with tech support. You're like, yeah. Great Britain. Yeah. I know we separated from you a long time ago, but we need to turn America on and off again. Can you tell us how to do that? Oh, martial law just for a couple of days. Okay. We're getting on it. No problem. When we come back, should we have a King? Is that what we should do? king? Is that what we should do? Hold on a minute. I turned it off. Can you give us

the Duchess of Sussex or whatever who just shat out a kid over there? Can you give us that one? This thing is stuck updating. The Suffolks? I don't even know what the fuck she is. Somebody said that at my work. I work with this British lady and I was listening

to the fucking news and it was like, the Duchess of Suffix just had a suffix. And I was just like, who the fuck had a what? And then I went into her office and I'm like, who the fuck is the Duchess of Suffix or whatever? And she's like, oh, that's the one who married the other guy or whatever.

The one who just got married, the American who married the other one over there. The prince or something. I don't know. I don't know. Meghan Markle? Yeah, that one.

That one had a kid. What's the other one's name? But I didn't know her title was Duchess of whatever. Oh, I don't know how that works. I don't really understand any of that.

I don't either. But she shat out a kid recently. Like, I don't even know. Like, when you guys use the titles, just say the Markle name because I'll recognize that. I don't either, but she shat out a kid recently. I don't even know. When you guys use the title, so just say the Markle name, because I'll recognize that. Markle's the lady who's in charge of Germany. I know who that is. Don't treat me like I'm

an idiot. I'm surprised she had a kid. I'd do her. She's like... She'd do you. Come on. She looks like she's like she'd do you come on she's like she's like she looks like

she's head of the PTA a fucking German power broker like that and own your shit oh my gosh now's the time when sprockets would be down

that's for damn sure doesn't she look head of the PTA doesn't she look like head of the PTA though she would talk to someone's man she would

I'm saying in America she'd be Karen you know what I mean Does she look like out of the PTA, though? She would talk to someone's man. She would. I'm saying. In America, she'd be Karen. Yeah. You know what I mean? And there is no scientist or doctor that can validate you can get anything out of the rectum other than waste, refuse, and death. There is no life. And the sodomites are cheering on and praising the rectum.

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Addison. Pete Buttigieg, quote, engages in violent sexual acts. Okay. Said somebody fantasizing about somebody willing to do violent sexual acts with them to go out on a limb here and say uh this lady has never been involved in a sexual all right here we go fox news is doing these series of town hall meetings with uh people on the left running for president and of course they had uh mayor pete uh budaj on the other day budaj oh budaj so it's budaj but i want to rewind Oh, Buttigieg. So it's Buttigieg,

but I want to rewind it for a second, Tom. It's not Buttigieg. It's not Buttigieg, but I want to rewind it five seconds. What I want you to do is watch this woman's expression when they mention Pete Buttigieg's name. Now, they mispronounce Buttigieg,

so Buttigieg gets mentioned, but watch her expressions, Tom. All right. Watch how fucking exasperated she is to hear Pete Buttigieg's name. Which one of her neck rolls should I be watching? You know, I don't know that you could just focus on one. What I would do is slow focus on the whole mass

and just see. And of course, they had Mayor Pete Buttigieg on the other day. Oh my God. The sigh. The sigh. It's like a David Smalley up on that pig. She closed her eyes? It's David Smalley

with one less chin up there. There's an openly gay man doing, out there talking, and it was as if we have accepted the commonality of this and that that shouldn't be an issue, therefore let's move on

and hear what he has to say about it. Yeah, no, that sounds great. I 100% agree. I heard that. It's like, he's saying this is like a hypothetical. Like he's being, yeah. It's almost as if this is a settled social question. It's like, yeah.

Yeah, it is. It's literally a settled social question. It is. You just didn't get the memo. It's just the hyper-religious who give a fuck. I don't know. And I'm actually curious if anybody in the audience

knows another atheist who does not like gay people but is an atheist. Because I don't know of anything where this comes from. No. I don't know anybody who has got a bug up their ass

about sexuality in general unless it's religious nutbags. Right. They're the only holdouts at this point left. Like, even like people in my dad's generation

are just like, all right, fine. I don't care. Yeah. They're just like, even when they were like, ah, it's icky. And you're just like, stop.

And they're like, you got a good point. And they're like, they're just done with it now. Yeah ah it's icky and you're just like stop and they're like oh you got a good point and they're like they're just done with it now yeah because like how do you like to fuck is nobody's business right it's a weird thing to define somebody by like who do you love and how do you like to fuck well i fucking none of your business and none of your business okay yeah like it it's it's. Like, it's an inappropriate way. It's an inappropriate rubric to use to measure

somebody's worth. And like, we have a, we're settled. This is a done deal. No one cares anymore. Nobody cares. There are people who care.

We say that nobody cares. What we mean to say is social attitudes are shifting. Social, there are social attitudes that are shifting. Now, there are still plenty of people

out there who don't like gay people. There's still plenty of people out there who don't like gay people. There's still plenty of people out there who don't like gay people. So I don't want to give that impression that there isn't a large group of people out there who do not like gay people. But that large group of people is diminishing every year because the nuns,

the people without any religious affiliation are growing. And the people without a religious affiliation don't have any hangups when it comes to this stuff. They're not crazy. They don't care about it. You know, the same thing goes for like kinks too, right? Like when people like laugh about kinks or like kid around about kinks,

it's the same. It's very similar. It's like, who cares what someone's kink is? Like it literally does not matter. It's like, I don't care about any of it. Like I don't care about any of your sexual, the way in which you approach sexual. It doesn't matter to me at all.

So the fact when people like hear about a weird kink and I, and you say weird, right. Even just how I'm even talking about it. When I say weird kink, what I mean to say is a kink that is uncommon. That's how I should say it because it's like weird doesn't enter into it. It's what you, everybody,

because everybody else's, everybody else's kinks to me are weird. Mine are fine, but everybody else's are weird, right? And the same thing goes for you, right? Everybody else's are weird, but yours are fine. And it's just the idea is, what we really need to do is just stop thinking so puritanically about how sexuality works.

Just be like, look, if you're into, you know, and I'm trying to think of something unique, right? You're into hair jobs, let's say. If you're into hair jobs, you're into hair jobs, man. It's not my deal, but good for you, man. Great. Maybe she used Pantene today. Like, you know, good luck to you. Wait, is it herbal essences?

Wouldn't that be the— I guess if it's herbal essences, it's just a pretend hair job where you fake a hair job. But, you know, like, the thing is, is like, who cares, right? Who cares what that person gets off on?

Like, somehow I'm supposed to judge you because you don't get off the same way I get off. Get the fuck out of here. And she's going to talk in a minute about violent sexual acts. You know, we talk about, because that's what the title says, violent sexual acts. You know, we talk about, because that's what the title says, violent sexual acts.

You know, if he is involved in violent sexual acts, first off, I have no idea if she knows that at all, period. But even if he is involved in something that has violence and sex, if it's consensual, go fuck yourself. Shut the fuck up. Leading this country. I mean, hello, don't we have the fortitude to stand up here or we're just asking for trouble if we do? You're asking for trouble because you are outnumbered and outdated. That's just the fucking facts, man. Well, and it's like these guys have been standing up. They've been talking about it. It's just that

their audience continues to shrink and their social capital continues to shrink because this is not a social issue that we're terribly worried about it. By and large, I don't want to... There are people for sure. Yeah, absolutely. By and large, social attitudes have shifted. And it's growing.

It's growing every day. There's more and more people who don't care. I mean, even attitudes among many denominations of religious organizations are like, yeah, we don't care. Yeah. They're starting to shed that. They're starting to shed it. Right. Excuse me for what I'm about to say.

Uh-oh. Is that the I'm not racist, but? Is that what she's doing? Is that what she's doing? I love the drama of this because she knows her audience will agree with her. She's pretending that there's some audience that isn't you and I that are about to

lambast her. She's pretending that she's speaking to this larger audience of liberals that watch the Focus on the Family TV show. What fucking fantasy world are you fucking living in right now? This is more of a fantasy than any fucking violent sexual. Yeah, no kidding.

We are talking about an individual who engages in violent sexual acts with a person he claims to love. How do we know? First of all, like you said, if it's consensual, who gives a shit? And how do you know? That's number two. Like, if it's consensual, who gives a shit? And how do you know? That's number two. I think what she's trying to do, though,

if I'm reading this right, is she's trying to purport or conflate that, like, all homosexual sex is inherently violent. Yeah. Like, in a way that heterosexual sex is not violent. I don't know why you would be thinking it's violent. I mean, I'm sure he uses lube. It's not that violent. That'd be a little mean otherwise. It's a little violent if you don't know why you would be thinking it's violent I'm sure he uses lube That'd be a little mean otherwise

It's a little violent if you don't Jesus First blood Now that's ugly Our culture doesn't want to talk about that Because it's all about love And it's all about acceptance Until, well, you're a Christian

Then it's about you being intolerant. But let's just. Yeah, if you're not acceptance. Yeah. Like this shit cracks me up. If you are not accepting, then you are not tolerant of that thing. Right. It's pretty easy.

That makes you intolerant. The guy who prefaced it before he handed it off to her was like, like basically saying like do we have to tolerate this shit that's the summation and she's like well i don't like being called intolerant but no i don't have i just want to pitch you a real softball question right stop for a second here and let's realize that our defenses have been eroded. We have been fed a narrative for so long that now we have unrighteousness that we accept. I love that word, unrighteousness, right? Because who gets to choose that? Who's the one who gets to decide what's righteous and what's not righteous? It's your religious leaders. It's those people, right? It's you. You get to make that decision. You're the one who gets to say, this is unrighteous. You're an idiot.

You don't get like, you know, when you walk away from religion, you finally get the clarity to say, you don't get to tell me what to do anymore. You don't get to dictate my life for me anymore. When I grew up religious, there was a lot of things that were off limits, a lot of things that you couldn't think about, a lot of things you couldn't act on, right? And then once you stop becoming religious, you're like, oh, well, all that shit is just bullshit. It's just all, it's all bullshit.

Now, I'm still a good person, right? Even though I lost religion, I didn't lose my morality. I still don't want to steal. I don't want to hurt other people. I don't want to lie to person, right? Even though I lost religion, I didn't lose my morality. I still don't want to steal. I don't want to hurt other people. I don't want to lie to people, right? Those are the three big things I try to avoid because that's what the commandments are. Those three things just split up in some weird hairs. But you know, those are the things I want to try to avoid. Okay. Well, it didn't change really who I was. What it did was it changed my perspective on how I treat others, like gay people, how I treat it. But they talk about it all the time. But then they sure as fuck don't ever do it. They don't ever like,

if I was marginalized, I would want to be treated nicely. Yeah, right. But they don't ever do it. No, because in that worldview, it's your fault you're marginalized. You're not marginalized for an unshakable fact of your being.

Sure. You're marginalized because you engage in wrong actions. You're marginalized because of your own sin. And so there's no quarter for that. Yeah. Even though it's a religion of forgiveness, right? I wish we could get away from the nature-nurture argument

when it comes to gay people, mainly just so you could just be like, I don't fucking care whether someone chooses to be gay or not. I don't care. Just as I don't care, when we were talking about earlier about the kinks, just as I don't care that somebody gets off on,

you know, thongs or whatever instead of some other type of thing, I don't care about that. And I shouldn't care about whether or not someone else wants to, you know, sleep with a man, sleep with a woman, sleep with both,

sleep with a bunch of people. It shouldn't matter to me. I want to get past the point where I have to somehow hide behind biology to be like, well, it's not their fault. Who cares whether it's their fault? I don't, I want to get to a point in society where we just don't give a fuck about what people do in the bedroom. Can you imagine if like, we did the same thing, but we were like, yeah, but you know what? I don't like people that don't like cilantro. If you don't like cilantro,

if you use another preference, just a preference, just like, yeah, whatever. That's the thing I like. That's another thing I like. If it was just like, because the cilantro could be genetic. That's why I picked that, right? So it's like, well, is that germane to my... How does your sexuality interact with my life?

Right. Somebody's sexuality does not interact with my life unless I interact with them sexually. It's the only way that it interacts with my life. So it's like, well, this isn't a way that we interact. So it's not a meaningful way for me to think about you, to evaluate you as a person. Like it doesn't have moral, but we're stuck on this idea that like in ways that are unique, somebody's private sexual conduct with another person has moral

consequences, big, broad moral consequences that exist outside the boundaries of the people they're interacting with sexually. So, like, there's an idea that only religious people have and nobody else that, like, what two consenting adults do can somehow be considered immoral, even though they both were consenting adults. Right, right. And nobody else, nobody else believes that. Everybody else has come to the conclusion that like, that doesn't make any fucking sense. It doesn't make any more sense

than if you're like, yeah, I got some cilantro on my burrito. Oh, I don't like that. Okay, well, we didn't eat the same burrito. So who gives a shit? Nobody cares. Who fucking cares? It's not,

that's a conversation so ludicrous you would, nobody would have it. Right. But what is truly outrageous, we say that's a bridge too far. So we've got Christians who say, wait a minute, wait a minute. You've got a man who believes he's a woman. Oh, come on. That's just a bridge too far. But a man who marries a man and says that this is, you know, could potentially, she just like big slam on trans folk. She was, she was slammed and then dismissed it. Yeah.

Like, yeah, everyone's okay with that. Everybody's okay. Distant trans people, except for lots of people, except for lots of people. Be the first gentleman of the United States.

That's okay. And we're supposed to talk about his policies. I don't think so. I don't think- Well, his policies are what I want him to do. Yeah. I'm hiring him for a job, not to fuck me. I'm not going to watch him fuck a pig on national television.

I'm going to watch him, if he becomes president, maybe do an infrastructure bill. Right. Maybe give a speech in the Rose Garden. He's not going to be fucking getting head from his husband while he does it i wouldn't care if he did is the bill pass yeah well and as long as he's behind the podium and i don't have to see it i'm cool right it's fine do it like police academy i forgot about that scene i think so do you understand the type of judgment that will be brought upon our country do you understand the type of judgment that will be brought upon our

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