Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 480: Selfish Overbelly

Episode Date: July 29, 2019

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Starting point is 00:01:29 to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there are no answers to the many, many questions posed by Congress. There was one befuddled gentleman in federal all right this is episode 480 guys we got to talk muller right yeah let's talk about muller what a fucking train wreck debacle waste of fucking seven and a half hours that was there's like there's like two or three moments that I really thought were worthwhile and good to hear. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Out of seven and a half hours. But I will, I will say that like the other stuff that the Republicans got him to say, or at least, you know, they got to say out loud and we'll use as talking points. Yeah. Completely. It's a, it's a disaster in some ways. In some ways it's really good. Cause you know, but I, I, I don't know if I said it on the show, but I know we
Starting point is 00:02:25 were talking about this two or three weeks ago. And I said, I am not hopeful for this thing. I think it feels like a, it feels like it's going to backfire on us. And I definitely think it did. I think it was, you know, I don't think it was as a disaster, as much a disaster as like, you know, Trump at right afterwards came out and said how much of a disaster it was. But you know, I think that the important parts of it are that they said out loud, was this a witch hunt? No, it wasn't a witch hunt. Schiff, I think there was a series of questions that Schiff asks that were really solid, that were just like, do you think that what he did was unethical? Yes, I do.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Yeah. And one of the questions I think there were so strategically, I think the perceived value of this was, you know, for, for most of the American public, they are not politicos, you know, they're not, they're, they're key. They don't keep their eye on this prize that heavily. Like for us doing the show, we're reading the news. We're like, we're in it to win. Right. But for most of America, they're not going to read a 448 page report yeah and most people aren't going to read an analysis a lengthy analysis or even a breakdown of a 448 page report like that's just not who america is at heart right right so yeah getting this into soundbites really i think strategically was the idea right we'll get this big ass fucking report and we'll get it into
Starting point is 00:03:45 soundbites and that'll hit the news and that'll go viral and that'll get excerpted. And now that'll make, that'll make these pieces in the report, which are damning. It'll make those pieces rise to the public attention. Right. And I think that strategically was the idea. I think it, it had, like you said, it had some spots where I spots where I think some of that might have happened. The example it stands out for me is at one point he asked, like, did the president order one of his aides to lie about this investigation? Yes, he did. Yeah. He ordered one of his people to lie.
Starting point is 00:04:22 That is the biggest piece that is obstructionist, right? Because it meets all the criteria for construction. Obstruction, not construction. Well, maybe he's building a wall. He's trying to build a skyscraper in Russia too, I guess. So construction all the way around. But like the Republicans use their time frequently to give these sort of long-winded diatribes like they get you know
Starting point is 00:04:46 a minute or two minutes or whatever and they're like cool i'm just gonna i'm gonna talk and i know that that's gonna become its own talking point right and then i'll i'll lead lead lead lead lead finish with a quick question that's a yes or a no that that and they get all that time they get all that narrative control time yeah um they were they handled it the republicans handled it very very well and muller basically did exactly what he fucking said he was going to do and what the department of justice forced him to do right because they did admonish him prior to testifying that he was only able from the department of justice he was only able to testify to the facts relative to the report
Starting point is 00:05:25 so when questions came up that were related to the investigation but were the subject of other inquiry or other investigation he's like i can't fucking answer that yeah and he came across like a fucking crotchety old man being pestered about when he's going to eat his jello he definitely he would eat that jello he was oh my god i fucking told you's going to eat his jello. He definitely. He would eat that jello. He was. Oh my God. I fucking told you I wasn't eating this jello before you served me the fucking jello. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:50 It was really, it was really just like open mic at the old folks. And you know, the thing is, is like, like, like from what we've heard about Mueller. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:03 First off, the guy is way smarter than I'll ever be. It's not that I'm making fun of the guy. Way fucking smarter than I'll ever be. Almost certainly more eloquent than I'll ever be. Way more accomplished in like, maybe he could pick a, like two or three years of his life, but he's more accomplished than I ever will be in my entire. So I'm not, you know, like understand there's a lot of respect when it comes to it right there. But at the same
Starting point is 00:06:27 time, he did not feel like as whip smart as everyone said he was, he was, you know, like everyone was talking about how whip smart he is. Oh, he's really, but he felt tired. He felt like he was done. He felt like he was not into it. He also felt a little befuddled. He felt like he couldn't tell who was talking to him that happened so often he's looking this way he's looking that way he doesn't he's like colombo stands or one more question man i got one more question he's like he keeps on turning back and forth he also like couldn't hear the questions all the time he's like yeah oh i i didn't hear i don't know the question yeah why was that yeah no man my hearing aid is
Starting point is 00:07:05 let me get somebody not a million to answer those big old horns why'd you say that give me that ricola horn just stick that in there just gomer talking into it like a game of telephone but uh but one of the things the Republicans did, I think hypocrites that they fucking are right, is that they really brought one point up, which is why do this investigation? Why do all this work? If you weren't going to charge him, if you knew ahead of time that you weren't going to charge him and you didn't have any kind of avenue to charge him. Why do all this work? If there's, if you're just, all you're doing then is just saying a bunch of stuff out loud and then that's it. And they did the same thing with Hillary Clinton, right? When it came to Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, like the, why would Ken Starr have done
Starting point is 00:07:57 his investigation? He didn't get arrested for fucking getting his dick sucked. But even more, even more recently, they did the same thing with Hillary Clinton. But when that happened, the Republicans immediately took that shit and ran with it. Well, we now know the truth and report it to the American people. Unless it's a truth which we are politically uncomfortable with.
Starting point is 00:08:16 In which case, the truth is not your friend. What can I do to stop this? And so they admonished him. Yeah, yeah. The whole time they're admonishing him for something that they loved when it was for Hillary Clinton. But not now. I don't know. I personally am on the camp of I was fine with, you know, I'm fine with understanding what happened with Hillary's emails. I'm fine with understand. I'd much rather have more information than less. Even if you don't charge that person. These are people in the public eye. We're not talking about a normal person here. We're not talking about a normal everyday Joe who's just like some schmuck on the street who's just like, no, we're just going to investigate the shit out of you and then not charge you. There's a difference there.
Starting point is 00:08:52 These are things that are actually happening that the American people need to know about. Yeah, well, they're supposed to be answerable to us. Right. That's how this works. Yeah. Like an investigation is never a bad thing because we didn't find anything. All right, great. Then there's no corruption in the government that I fucking pay for. That is answerable to me that I fucking hired that guy by voting for him. Like, yeah, I I'm
Starting point is 00:09:15 happy when there's no corruption. Yeah. That is the, that's the ideal. That's the fucking gold standard of a democratic government, right? Everybody would be super happy if there was no corruption. The other part that was, that was kind of, it came out as a gotcha moment and then he walked it back was the Todd Lou thing or Ted Lou. I don't know his name. Um, he came out, Senator Lou said, um, he asked the question and the question was, did you not charge him because of the justice department's rule on not indicting a sitting president. And he said, yes. And then he walked it back later and said,
Starting point is 00:09:49 basically what I said in the report is what I meant. I didn't mean to say yes so quickly. Although there was another senator who asked him, and I thought she did a good job. I don't remember her name. I don't remember women's names. Okay. Well, I don't remember her name.
Starting point is 00:10:00 It's okay. I'll explain it to her later what her question was. Very slowly so she understands it but she asked she she kind of iterated the same question in the second half and he declined to answer because you know it was a hypothetical like if if he were not protected would you have indicted and he's like that's a hypothetical i'm not gonna fucking do that yeah and and she did ask him like is it fair to say that if it were i that ordered one of my aides to lie as part of an ongoing investigation that i would be indicted and he said yes that's fair so she got him to say like not that not that trump would be you know but she kind of got him to say like, not that, not that Trump would be, you know, but she kind of got him there.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Like she got us close. She tickled the button for a minute. There was a Republican too, totally backfired on him. He asked the question, well, would you charge him if he was, uh, and I don't think he says this exactly. So I got to remember exactly what he says. Let me see if I could find it real quick. Could you charge the president with a crime after he left office? Yes. You believe that he committed, you could charge the president with a crime after he left office? Yes. You believe that he committed, you could charge the president of the United States with obstruction of justice after he left office? Yes. That's a Republican asking that question. He seems flabbergasted. He's like, wait, what? We can? Yeah. Oh shit. Well, if he gets fired, we're fired. Well, and,
Starting point is 00:11:19 and the way that plays out, it sounds like he's saying, you know, cause the way the question is asked when I first heard that, I was like, Oh, that's a big deal, but it's not as big a deal as you think, because he's, I think he's asking, can you charge him with a crime? He specifically steered away from, would you charge him with a crime in his office? He just asked, could you charge him with a crime in his office? And I think that that's, that's an obvious answer. Yes, you can charge him with a crime when he leaves office. But the guy is asking the question, and it makes it sound like you're saying, could you charge him with this obstruction? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Because that's what we're talking about. So there's a – but again, it sounded like a big moment at the time, but it doesn't feel like a big moment in the after effects. But I think he's saying you can charge him with the obstruction after he leaves office. I think he's saying, like, can you charge him – Hold on. Could you charge the president with a crime after he left office. I think he's saying like, can you charge him? Hold on. Could you charge the president with a crime after he left office? Yes. You believe that he committed,
Starting point is 00:12:10 you could charge the president of the United States with obstruction of justice after he left office? Yes. Yeah, so you couldn't charge, but again, he's saying, could you charge him
Starting point is 00:12:18 with obstruction of justice? I don't know that that means this particular case. Do you think that maybe- Unless maybe statute of limitations is over? Yeah. But do you think he's saying, but do you think Mueller is just stating a fact? Like I do.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I think Mueller is stating a technical answer. That's what I'm saying. Right. Right. Not whether it would be appropriate to do it. I see. That's what I, that's where I'm getting,
Starting point is 00:12:39 you know, that's what I'm saying is that he's just, he's just rules lawyering. Right. Yeah. He's just saying, no, I'm, I'm, I'm perfect. But it's, it, it shocked the fuck out of the Republican.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And then the best part of that is right after that moment, his, that you hear time is up and he's like, can I finish it? Nope. And there was another time where a woman asks a big, long question. This Republican woman asked this big, long question. She gets to the very end. He's like, what was the question? She's like, well, what I want to know is, and then she puts it more succinctly and then it times up.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Can I, can he answer the question? No, he can't. And then it's, that was the end of it. And the thing is, is like, if you don't think that's fair, fuck you because they've been doing it to the, to the, since when they had control of the house, they did that to the Democrats all the time. They did that constantly to the other, to the Democrats the whole time. They did that constantly to the Democrats the whole time. So there is some things we want to highlight. There's some highlights to the testimony that we want to cover. This is a particular article from the New York Times that talks about it. A couple of things that pop out. One, Mueller admitting that Trump was generally untruthful and incomplete in his written answers. And then someone pushed him on this and said, well, why didn't you get him to sit down? Yeah. And he had
Starting point is 00:13:51 said, I do not think that we would have ever gotten him to sit down in a timely manner for this investigation. It was not going to happen. He was going to fight it in courts forever. Yeah. And he said, like, I, I asked him, I said that with this whole thing can be over, like Mueller, this whole thing can be over if you'll sit down and Trump refused to sit down and answer questions. And like, you know, think, think for a second, like if you are a supporter or, you know, like a supporter of Trump, that's gross, but I don't, we want our president to be answerable to us. Don't we want our president to be answerable to us? Don't we want the president who we elected? This is a goddamn democracy. The man's not king. Yeah. Like he needs to be answerable.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Yes. If the public says I got questions, I'm sorry, motherfucker. You sit and answer those questions or you go get another fucking job. Yeah. It's it is its own scandal that he won't answer questions. It is his own scandal. That should be, we're just in this like post-scandal phase of American politics. We've ruined the scandal forever. There is no scandal left. Like he hired a prostitute, Stormy Daniels. He paid money to have sex with her.
Starting point is 00:15:02 That's a prostitution. That is a crime. We know he did that. There's no such thing as scandal anymore. Yeah. There is no such thing as too far. When the when when the president won't be have in a way that is answerable to the people. Right. That's a king. Right. Yeah. And the problem is, is that his base really likes that. They like it when their guy's in charge and unquestionable. They don't like it the other way around. When Obama was in office, they were constantly exactly
Starting point is 00:15:30 where we were, which was screaming about everything. Every little thing he did, they had a problem with every single thing. They called him a tyrant. But the difference between us and them is I want Obama to be a question. I want him to be answerable to the public. They, when it's their guy, don't. But when it's anyone else, they do. And then that's be answerable to the public. They, when it's their guy, don't, but when it's anyone else, they do. And then that's a shitty way to think, and that's a shitty way to exist in this country because it means you don't respect it.
Starting point is 00:15:53 What you respect is, what you want is power for yourself only. There's a selfish underbelly in the United States, a selfish group of people. I think there's a selfish overbelly. Yeah, well, well yeah it is overbelly because it goes right over the belt it just hangs over our rascal scooter overbelly um i will say this um one of the things that that they said that he perked up about um you know and this is the jello moment we're like your jello is ready sir um he this is where he's talking about a foreign interference.
Starting point is 00:16:26 He was, he's very adamant that this is a huge problem in the United States right now and has been for the past five years. And this is baffling that this is not the biggest deal, right? That this isn't the biggest part of the story. It's astonishing that we have a hostile foreign government meddling, as Mueller says, successfully meddling in our election process, undermining our democracy, undermining the will of the American people. And that means that that means that they are helping to shape the future and the policies that we all get to live with. We all live with the guy that got elected. This means that the guy that
Starting point is 00:17:03 got elected is being helped by a hostile foreign power that wants to shape American policy. And they're doing it successfully. And we're fucking bickering about nothing. Yeah, we're bickering about minutia rather than paying attention to the attack, the legitimate attack on the actual freedoms that we have on our actual goddamn working democracy. So here's kind of what Mueller said. He says, I hope this is not the new normal, he told Representative Peter D. Welch, a Democrat of Vermont, after the congressman asked him whether future political campaigns could accept foreign interference. But I fear it is. And when, when I read that, I thought back immediately to the first time Trump was asked, if you were offered intelligence on an, on an opponent by Russia, would you take it and not report it? Or would you report it to the FBI?
Starting point is 00:17:59 And he said, of course I wouldn't report it to the FBI. I would take that intelligence. Of course I would. And that caused an uproar. And then he walked back and he said, no, no, I'd report it to the FBI. And I thought we haven't, he hasn't figured out that that is, that is kissing cousins with treason. Yeah. Like, and I don't, I'm not trying to speak hyperbolically, but that is kissing cousins with treason to work with a hostile foreign country to together subvert the will of the American people and, and shape our foreign policy, our domestic policy, everything. I'm amazed by this. I'm amazed that this is like, not the biggest fucking deal. You have nothing to worry about politically. If you don't get to elect your own leaders.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Yeah. If we're not electing our leaders, then just cut out the whole fucking fake bullshit experiment and decide that we're all just like, I'll let Russia decide who wins. Yeah. Like if it's not you, then just fuck it.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Make it an online poll. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm fucking president Bodie McBoatface. I sent out a survey monkey. Who's president? Yeah. Yeah. The other thing that, uh, that this sort of, you know, American president, Bodie McBoatface. I sent out a survey monkey. Who cares? Who's president?
Starting point is 00:19:05 Yeah. The other thing that this sort of, you know, the Russian meddling sort of brings forward is immediately people want to start to put some sort of bills together because they're like alarmed by it. Well, as soon as that happens, one of the GOP senators, Senator Cindy Hyde-Smith, a Republican from Mississippi, blocked both of the bills and didn't give reasons for her objections. It's amazing. Here's what the bill would have done. The bill would have required campaigns to alert the FBI and the Federal Election Commission about foreign offers of assistance, as well as a bill to let the Senate Sergeant of Arms offer voluntary cyber assistance for personal devices and accounts of senators and staff. That's a milk. That's like, I mean, it's yeah. What are you kidding me? We can't all be like, oh yeah, you know what I don't want. And we can't get that done. Yeah. Yeah. It's, I mean, and, and he also, he also got really upset. Mueller, I mean, as upset as he could be about
Starting point is 00:20:00 WikiLeaks at one point, he says they had said, do you think that someone had asked him Quigley? This is a guy from Illinois had asked him about WikiLeaks. And he said he asked for a reaction to the candidates. Trump prays for WikiLeaks during the campaign. And he said, it's problematic is an understatement in terms of what it displays in terms of giving some hope or some boost to what is and should be illegal activity. So it should be illegal activity, he says. And I have a feeling there's a lot of times that we're dealing with, we're talking about things that he really can't say is illegal, but thinks should be illegal. You know what I mean? Like we talk about collusion. He even says
Starting point is 00:20:42 at one point, he's like, well, that's not really a crime. But, you know, you know that he would say if that was a crime. Yes, he's guilty of it. Yeah, absolutely. But immediately afterwards, Trump's like, no collusion, no collusion. There was no collusion. They have to say it. They have to say it out loud because it's not an offense that you can indict somebody. It's not a legal term of art. Right. Right. What they, what they were looking for was evidence of a conspiracy. Yeah. Rather than evidence of collusion. So the obstruction piece is clearly there. The obstruction piece is absolutely there. There's no question that there is no question. Mueller said as much with the words, yes. When he was asked directly, like, did the president order one of his aides to lie to the investigation? It was that's obstruction of justice. It's cut and dry. Yeah. And,
Starting point is 00:21:29 and in his testimony, another article, it says Trump ordered former white house counsel, Don McGahn to lie. Special counsel confirms that. Yeah. And there's a part where this is, there's a video on this, where the woman goes through and says, did he order him lie? Yes, we believe he did. You know, like, and, and that's, these are, these are moments where he's trying to cover something up. Now, is he trying to cover something up that you can't be prosecuted for? I don't think he knew that, which is why he ordered it. That's obstruction. I don't know if he, if he was worried about prosecution or worried about the political fallout, you don't know, right. You don't know whether it's political fallout or not, but maybe he's just fucking stupid and panicked and was like one of those guys that doesn't want to
Starting point is 00:22:08 get caught sure and it's just like i can hide it i'm smarter than they are i can run two steps in front what's crazy to me is it doesn't matter if he's caught it like legitimately doesn't matter this won't make any difference doesn't matter at all this is this is everybody in america that watched this or heard about it basically just went back to their partisan reporting and was like, yeah, this is exactly what I thought. Fox News never mentioned one of these things, and they talked only about the Republican talking points. I went to Fox News right afterwards, and there was no mention of any of this stuff whatsoever. I'm sure not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:41 And the Republican side, what they wanted to do, they wanted to call into question the origin of the investigation itself, which is the Steele dossier. Right. Which he would not comment on. Talk about because it's because it's part of an ongoing investigation. So you want to talk about the origin. And the reason you want to talk about the origin is that there is an idea that if the investigation itself was a, was started on false pretenses and whatever happens with the course of the investigation or whatever the investigation finds is somehow tainted, right? It's built on a shitty foundation. That's bad thinking. That's really,
Starting point is 00:23:15 really sloppy, shitty thinking. That's, that's doesn't actually hold up if you just pause and think one single substantive thought ever in your life. If you accidentally walk in on your wife, fucking another guy, it doesn't mean that she's still not fucking another guy.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Right. You know what I mean? You're not supposed to be home now. It's like, well, I am. Oopsie. You're not supposed to be full of dick.
Starting point is 00:23:38 But the thing is like, you know, like, like that's what they're basically saying as well. You know, there was a false pretense or whatever when it was created. So therefore nothing, everything that happens. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:47 She, you could just shoot whoever you want in the face afterwards. It doesn't matter. This is on false pretenses. Right. It's ridiculous. Fucking silly. It's a stupid thing to say. It's fucking silly.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Yeah. And then they were also trying to cast aspersions on the objectivity of the investigators by saying that half of the investigators had known political ties or political affiliation with the Clinton campaign. And basically saying, well, like half of them are Democrats. And I thought like, all right, let me go ahead and take stock. If half are Democrats, the other, let's see, that leaves one half presumably are not. And that's a general makeup of the American public. They're all Gary Johnson or supporters.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I just I listened to that. I thought, like, you might have something if all of them were sure you might have something. If you said, look, all of these guys all have ties and political affiliations that are in opposition to the current administration they're investigating. I'd be like, you know what? That's worth talking about. Sure. I would be concerned about their objectivity. Yeah. But the best they even came up with, they're like about half of these guys. I'm like, well, it's about half of, you know, half of America turns out about half of the people in this room are men and the other half are women clearly there's a bias toward men clearly i'm not in a boardroom yeah and they did come after him at one point for bias they they came after him
Starting point is 00:25:16 and he's and they said that guy hated clinton it was gomer who was going after him he's like that guy hated clinton and he said yeah and. And as soon as I found out, or hated, hated Trump, I think they said, and he's like, as soon as I found out, transferred him.
Starting point is 00:25:28 He's like, yeah, I, I am acted on that immediately. Yeah. They tried to call, they, they basically tried to like smear this guy. That's really what their plan was.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Smear him, make him seem like he doesn't know what he's talking about. And also just monologue. And they, and they, you know, I thought they did a pretty good job. Oh,
Starting point is 00:25:43 did you see, I thought they did a good job. They got a good a good job monologue yeah yeah i think muller for the most part is generally unsmearable yeah like the worst they got out of him was that he was just kind of doddering yeah um which okay but it doesn't substantially invalidate the facts and you know that it doesn't because on the right, what they're doing is they're saying like, well, this part of your report proves that he didn't collude. Okay, fine. So if you believe that, you have to believe the whole thing. You can't believe that the investigation, I know.
Starting point is 00:26:21 It's just like everything else with them. Right. It's just like climate change. It's just like they will pick and choose whatever they want to believe and then throw everything else out that is their method of thinking i and i i know that i'm going to get into this with people and i know that when i do the easiest you know the the arguments pretty self-contained right yeah it's like oh so we're going to see we would discount the whole report so maybe there's collusion with russia well no they didn't find any collusion so i'm going to take the whole report
Starting point is 00:26:48 yeah no no no well then i don't then we're done here yeah we are absolutely you can't do either then you can't either you trust the report but then you trust the report for the things it says and the things it doesn't say i'm going to trust the report because everything that i've ever read about muller is that he's a fucking boy scout, is that he's a rules guy, is that he's uncorruptible. Nobody was able to show that this guy was anything other than ethical, anything other than he acted with the best of intentions. Yeah. In the name of Jesus, we speak that. This story comes from deadstate.org. Christians finally condemn Trump's racist rally.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I would love to stop reading. Can we just stop there and just pretend that everything's okay? Okay. No, we can't do that. Because he said, God damn. Also, can we be real honest? We're going to read a few of these tweets here. I will play your song for you when we do.
Starting point is 00:28:01 But when we read these tweets, tweets tom these are not condemning tweets like i read through these and like they make it sound like oh my god he condemns it no these ones are all just like please mr trump don't do it again yeah thank you that's really all it is it's not condemning like i feel like dead state and fucking missed the ball on this yeah condemn is fuck that that's unacceptable that's not my guy anymore i'll never vote for you again uh-huh you know you're right you're dead to me that's if i've condemned something right that's it right like think about you condemn a fucking building it's not like i got new wallpaper or you can go back in an hour yeah right don't worry you'll be fine all right so we're gonna read some tweets here hold on a second hello darkness my old friend cool cool all right
Starting point is 00:28:49 so here's one uh love you mr president this is condemning condemning this is condemning to love you mr president but please stop using the lord's name in vain hashtag trump 2020 hashtag maga 2020 so that doesn't feel like condemning to me. That is... Okay. Yeah, anyway. Here's another one from Birdseye54. I was... This is why I can't take this seriously.
Starting point is 00:29:13 I love it so much. After we get done, I'm going to tell you about a dream. God, every part of me is breaking right now. I was very disappointed that you felt the need to use the Lord's name in vain at last night's rally.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Period. No capitalization. You are better than this. No comma. Get out your red pen. I pray you will never do it again. Otherwise, I have no choice
Starting point is 00:29:35 as a conservative Christian than to no longer support you. Please apologize to everyone. That one's a little more condemning. A little bit. There's a lot of pleases in there, but there's at least an ultimatum. Mr. President, please do not take the Lord's name in vain.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Lots of your supporters are unhappy. See, so that's not a condemnation at all. That's no. Nothing. All right. Well, it's getting it's getting it's getting heated in here. It's getting heated. Oh, great rally last night.
Starting point is 00:30:03 Except you said, God damn. They put the little at signs for all the O's and the A's. They did the Snoopy swearing. And then they put an ampersand in there for part of it. Yeah, exactly. Snoopy swearing. Yeah, it's like wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah.
Starting point is 00:30:21 When you say those words, then say things like putting God back in the USA, it is a contradiction. Please don't take the Lord's name in vain. Thanks. Thanks. I've been a supporter since the 2016 election. I voted for you then, and I really want to in 2020, but please stop taking the Lord's name in vain.
Starting point is 00:30:38 It is extremely offensive to Christians. My husband and I had to turn the TV off. Please stop. Wow. The vitriol. to Christians. My husband and I had to turn the TV off. Please stop. Wow! The vitriol! Well, what you had to do was you had to take yourself away from it. You were so offended. By the word goddamn? You had to take yourself
Starting point is 00:30:53 away from it, and there's no consequence for the person who did it. It's so offensive to you that you had to take yourself away from it, but you don't want to do anything to the person who said it. Anyway. It's literally crazy to me that somebody can hear the word goddamn and like fucking have to turn the TV off.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Oh my God, I got to turn it off. Run away. These people's hands are constantly around their pearls everywhere they go. They can't stop clutching them. Dirty word, dirty word, dirty word,
Starting point is 00:31:20 dirty word. Exactly. Get the fuck out of here. You baby. Oh Jesus. Please, Mr. President, stop taking the Lord's name in vain. Please. I really care about you being president, but a lot of Christians will not be able to vote for you if you continue this practice. Yeah. That person doesn't care. That person only cares about his electability. They actually don't care
Starting point is 00:31:40 themselves. Well, and also it's like, it's not true. Yeah. Like this is, this is the vitriol. And this is the example. This is it. This is the example that it's not true. They're voting for this guy. The, well, what's the worst one here has fucking Trump 2020 on. Yeah, right. Hashtag MAGA 2020, hashtag Trump 2020.
Starting point is 00:31:58 All the rest of these are all just like, this is all just fucking more fellatio. I, I, I take issue with this article because of how it's set up, because of the setup for it made me feel like, oh, somebody is finally going to have some Trump grant, right? Like there's going to be some moment of this. And there's not. There's not any. Now, you can find some of those people out there. Sure.
Starting point is 00:32:18 But people are still apologizing for him constantly. There's never been. It's been a constant stream of apology for all the things that he does. And I guess the couple of things that he does really well, you know, making sure that we hate women. Yeah. He's got that one. He's doing that one really good. Unlike the women he's with. Gross. Yeah. Gross. That man's face has no business being in a sexual context. That person had better have a damn big thigh gap. That's all I'm saying. Because because I'll tell you what, you need a viaduct to get his face under there.
Starting point is 00:32:57 She's like there's like a clearance like he has. He's like that 10 foot six bridge he wouldn't fit under the china has total respect for donald trump and for donald trump's very very large a brain i couldn't this is one of those stories that like you almost can't love enough at first i didn't believe it i right i was like i don't know that i believe this it's all over but that it's all over so this is from vox uh 45 is a puppet. Trump spoke in front of an altered presidential seal and nobody knew. That seal is amazing. Let me describe it really quickly. So the shield on the eagle resembles the Russian shield on the Russian flag. And then the two heads, there's two heads of the eagle instead of one.
Starting point is 00:33:44 And that, again, resembles the Russian flag. And then the two heads, there's two heads of the Eagle instead of one. And that again, resembles the Russian seal inside of the, the, the feet for the Eagle, the talents for the Eagle, um, are two things. One, it should be an olive branch and arrows, but instead it's, it's money and golf clubs and they've replaced, they've replaced, uh, and they've replaced they've replaced uh e pluribus unum with 45 s un teteri i guess and it's spanish for that translates to 45 as a puppet which is interesting they went from latin to spanish instead like i wonder if the person knew i wonder if the person knew even knew that it was latin and instead just like didn't even know i don don't know. Like, you know, I don't know. But it's hilarious. He's speaking at a student thing. Yep. And someone had put the seal up there
Starting point is 00:34:29 and they had changed the seal with the golf clubs on it. It's so great. It's so amazing that no one noticed and nobody stopped him. And there's photo ops right in front of him standing in front of his big fucking roast of a face. Fucking dumb ass face.
Starting point is 00:34:45 And he's clapping. That's what happens when you have somebody who's, I think hired a bunch of people who are so incompetent. I would be curious to know if this would have ever worked on another president. I don't know that it would have, I would have think that, that they would come in with,
Starting point is 00:35:00 with, you know, to, to control the whole situation and not just, you know, have a bunch of half assers handle this sort of thing. I've done a fair amount of public speaking for work. And every single time I do public speaking, I bring my own slides. I would never one time ever under any circumstances, like email my slides to somebody else and just show up and hope that they were there and hope that they were right like that's not what you do when your job depends on it right
Starting point is 00:35:31 like you show up like every time i've ever had them i've had them in my own email on my computer and on a flash drive right because i am not going to fuck this up right because i'm the asshole standing in front of it and if it gets fucked up it, it's like, I forgot I'm not wearing pants. It's like when your teleprompter breaks. Right. And then you're talking about some random shit for 20 minutes that nobody knows what you're talking about. They took the airports.
Starting point is 00:35:52 They took the airports. But in this case, you know, it might have been that he didn't even have anything. Instead, they were just showing it on the thing behind him. But I would, wouldn't you bring your own step and repeat and just be like, well, what the fuck? I'm just going to put my own fucking banner back here. It's a banner we carry around. We had one made of Kinko's White House. Instead, they're just like, yeah, don't worry, we'll handle it.
Starting point is 00:36:15 And some fucking joker put this up there. Right. And he looks like an absolute fucking fool because of it. And I guess I guess somebody got fired as a result of this. I was reading earlier today. But it's like, who cares? Fucking prank war win all day long. I hope that they fired somebody who was responsible and not somebody who just had somebody else do it and then they got fired for, you know what I mean? Like, I hope that that's not the case, that someone got fired because they were they they just presumed that one of the students was going to give them something and they just posted it or let them through or something. The only person that should be fired is whoever's in charge of vetting this shit, right? Should be somebody on his staff.
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Starting point is 00:37:50 and fucking has never been so fun. All right, here's an uplifting story from The Guardian. And it is actually a little bit. No doubt left about scientific consensus and global warming,
Starting point is 00:38:02 say the experts. It's 99%, right? 99% of scientists at this point are saying that there is a consensus. Global warming is a real thing. It is a real thing. It is caused by people. You cannot attribute to the extent of the warming over the course of the last 2,000 years to any cyclical causes.
Starting point is 00:38:24 And it's really, really fucking obvious. The studies use reconstructions based on trees, ice, and sediment from all continents. And they indicate that none of these shifts took place in more than half the globe at any one time in other places in history or other times in history. So we know some shit at this point. It is no longer a point that anybody in conversation should accept controversy around. There is no controversy about the cause of global warming. What's crazy is, is that our government is constantly doing things to that are exactly
Starting point is 00:39:01 the opposite of what needs to be done when it comes to global warming. People are being silenced. We covered a story, what was it, two weeks ago, Tom? We covered a story where a person was being silenced because they had to resign. They resigned because they were like, no, they basically said, we're not going to take notes on what you have to say. We're not going to enter your testimony into the record. Because we don't want to hear what you have to say. We don't want to hear this stuff. And there's a ton of people out there who think global warming is a hoax still. They think it's a total hoax. Before Trump was president, he called it a hoax from China.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Oh, yeah, he said it was invented by China. It was invented by China. So he's been calling it a hoax forever. There are some things that are terrifying about it. You had mentioned a story earlier. I'll let you tell it about California. You had mentioned a story earlier. I'll let you tell it about California. But I do want to play something before we before we move on. There's a woman, a young lady from the guard. It was in another Guardian article. This this girl,
Starting point is 00:39:57 she's a 16 year old girl. Her name's Greta Thunberg. And she's a Swedish climate activist. And she went to Davos and she read a speech. And I'm only going to play part of this speech of what she has to say, but I love what she has to say here. Adults keep saying we owe it to the young people to give them hope. But I don't want your hope. I don't want you to be hopeful. I want you to panic. I don't want you to be hopeful. I want you to panic. I want you to feel the fear I feel every day.
Starting point is 00:40:30 And then I want you to act. I want you to act as if you would in a crisis. I want you to act as if the house was on fire. Because it is. I think that's amazing. That is awesome. That young lady is, is, uh,
Starting point is 00:40:46 is I guess a, a big climate activist. She's been getting a huge following because of it. And she's, she's right. You know, there, there is,
Starting point is 00:40:54 this is not something that, that we need to be wishy-washy about. It's something that we need to be all in on. Yeah. Um, you had said something about California earlier today. Yeah. So there,
Starting point is 00:41:05 there, there are some bright spots. So the administration, it's good and bad. It's fucking maddening. So the Trump administration, uh, is rolling back its requirements around mileage standards.
Starting point is 00:41:16 So the, the, the number one producer of greenhouse gas is still transportation related in the United States. And the Obama administration had said, cool, by 2025, all cars, all new cars sold in America in America need to meet the standard of being at least 50 miles per gallon. I think it was 50, 51 miles per gallon for cars and light trucks. Um, that was rolled back. The Trump administration's like, yeah, we're going to kick that down to 37.
Starting point is 00:41:47 And California said, great story. But we're the fifth largest economy in the world. We swing some big dick. They got together with the four major automakers of the United States, and they secretly made an agreement between California and those four automakers just released that they're going to exceed the obama standard they're going to do it by 2026 instead of 2025 and all new cars sold by that time will actually have a higher average miles per gallon than the administration is requiring and you know what's fucking insane about that that's all that's all happening between california and the voluntary actions of these auto manufacturers. And the Trump administration's official stance on that is we will fight this.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Now, states' rights would say states can pass any law that as long as it doesn't exceed the law of the federal government. In other words, a federal, you have to abide by, but you can be more restrictive, just not less restrictive, right? So this in this case is great. It's like, yeah, all right, wait, you want 37, great. That's the minimum then.
Starting point is 00:42:54 I can't go 36, but I can go 38. They say, well, I'm going to go 51. And all the major auto manufacturers are going to go 51. And it's not going to be just for California. It's going to be for every car sold in the United States because they're not going to make cars special in a special California. Yeah, exactly. They're not going to send them just to California.
Starting point is 00:43:12 And they said part of the reasoning is they want to be good stewards of the environment. That's part of the reasoning. Sure. Part of the reasoning is they want to sell a bunch of fucking cars. Right. So and the Trump administration has said this is a federal initiative. We need one standard, not a bunch of hodgepodge standards. And they're going to fight this, which if you're a small government Republican, this is shitting on states.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Right. Yep. Yep. Where are you at? Where are you at? States rights, bitches. Where are you at? They're not here. Yeah, because what they want is less regulation. Yeah. Right. So they wouldn't even they probably wouldn't even approve of the 37. You know what I mean? Like they don't even like that idea. Right. I was talking to you earlier about, I'm somebody who is willing to pay money
Starting point is 00:43:56 to reduce my carbon footprint. I'm willing to pay money into that. I'm willing to give someone money to make sure that that happens. I feel like it's my responsibility to try to reduce my carbon footprint. I'm willing to pay money into that. I'm willing to give someone money to make sure that that happens. Um, I feel like it's my responsibility to try to reduce my carbon carbon footprint. I don't, but currently I don't drive, but once or twice a week anyway. Right. But I'm willing to, you know, if, if something were to come along that would help me reduce my carbon footprint for driving, I would do it the same thing with, you know, my, my, uh, my house
Starting point is 00:44:23 in some way, if there's some way I can reduce my carbon footprint there, if I can consume solar energy over, you know, coal energy, I'd be more than willing to pay a little extra to consume solar energy. You know what I mean? There's a lot of people, I think, in the country in the same position I am, where they might have a little tiny bit of extra income that they're willing to spend on something like this. There's money to be made here.
Starting point is 00:44:45 There's a ton of money. There's a lot of money. You know, when Elizabeth Warren was on stage, she was saying it was a trillion dollar plus, I think it's just several trillion dollar market. Talking about trillions of dollars to be made here. And I know that some of those dollars are mine to be made. There's plenty of space for people to make money. That's the thing that bothers me about, specifically about the Republican head in the sand that's happening with this, is that there's money to be made here. And they're always talked about how they're, you know, they're all for the people and, you know, gosh, you make so much money when the Republicans in
Starting point is 00:45:19 there, yada, yada, yada. This is a perfect opportunity to make sure that there's, you know, of yada. This is a perfect opportunity to make sure that there's, you know, tons of new American innovation as well as American jobs. And we're just throwing it all away by saying, no, it's not a thing. Well, it seems like, doesn't it feel like we're protecting the buggy whip manufacturers at this point? Exactly. Yeah. Like that world, the world has moved on from fossil fuels. The world is actively moving on. We don't want it. Young people don't want it. When you look at the next, you know, when we prognosticate, which we just talked about how inaccurate that is, when we prognosticate about what we think life is going to look like, is there anybody who really says, yeah, well, you know what I what I see in the in the near term future, meaning the next 15, 20 years, is I see a bastion of young people reaching adulthood, excited about burning fossil fuels. That's really say that out loud and don't kill yourself.
Starting point is 00:46:11 It's so stupid. Everybody has a way of interpreting them to be the truth or not true. There's no such thing. Unfortunately, more of fact, this is literally unbelievable. This is the world we're in right wing watch Brendan Dilley. It doesn't have to be true it just has to go viral oh this guy is such a fucking degenerate so we're gonna play this fucking idiot um this is his show the dilly show and here's what i'm gonna tell you maga i'm gonna tell this to all you guys it's not your you're gonna tell it to maga he's gonna tell it
Starting point is 00:46:42 to maga he's gonna make america great again hey make tell it to MAGA. He's going to tell it to MAGA. Make America great again. Hey, make America great again. He's got on the wall, he's got a Game of Thrones house MAGA on the wall. Do you see that back there? Yeah, the unframed poster that he has. Terribly clever. Tacked on the wall like he's a fucking ninth grader. Is that what you're asking me? Is that what I see?
Starting point is 00:47:01 Yeah, I see that. Responsibility to correct fake news against your enemies that's the fucking left's responsibility some of you guys don't get this you don't know how to fight you're busy being virtue signaling dick wads all right and i love you but sometimes you're virtue signaling dick wags dilly jesus dick wags you're a dick wad you're a dick wad that's what you are you're a virtue yeah the right is full of virtue signaling mag the the magum yeah fucking maga crowd yeah the fucking pepe frogs virtue signaling sure thing sure thing okay why'd you do fake news about liz warren in the mammy pot because fuck elizabeth warren that's why i told all of you it doesn't have to be true
Starting point is 00:47:44 it just has to go viral and i that is there you go problematically true there you go you know yeah like what what upsets me and it does it upsets me is he's not wrong no like he's saying like this is a guy producing this shit like yeah i like the ends justify the means exactly that's exactly it yeah that's how we arrive at truth yeah the thing is well he's not saying truth i don't think he's saying truth he's i think that he's not saying truth because he's the one producing it. Yeah. That's how we arrive at truth. Yeah. The thing is, well, he's not saying truth. I don't think he's saying truth. He's, I think that he's not saying truth because he's the one producing it. So he knows it's not true. He knows it's not true,
Starting point is 00:48:10 but you only manipulate other people's thoughts if they think it's true. Yeah. If the audience receiving that information perceives it as true. So that shapes the larger truth about like who people are and like what their ideas are. It's like, this is, this is it. Like, this is the world we've asked for. And this is the world that's delivered now. Yeah. It's that's scary, man. That's really to just knowingly produce this and just to tell other people like, yeah, this is the plan, the plan out loud and everything
Starting point is 00:48:44 is to rob that bank. I knew it was fake when I gave it. I don't care. Yeah. I don't care because all it does is hurt the person I don't like. I don't want that person in power. So I'm going to hurt them as much as I can. That's a crazy mindset to me.
Starting point is 00:48:59 You know, everything, if that's somebody's mindset, you know, everything you need to know about them, right? There's nothing, there's no question left. That's still interesting about who that person is. Yeah. And like what they want for the world, what they want for the world is power at any cost. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yep. Yeah. What they want is what they want. Period. Yeah. And there's no other, there's no other opinion out there that can even be considered. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:22 This is not like, and it's important because like you can't have a good faith debate with these people. No. And never try. No. Right. Cause it won't,
Starting point is 00:49:29 it is, it's fruitless from the start because it, if you start a good faith debate with somebody who doesn't act on good faith, then it, that's just, that's lipstick on a pig. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:41 That's wasting time. Yeah. I stand by that statement when it comes to our enemies and I'll make my, my fuck. And that's the problem is, is that you're the one who gets to decide who the enemy is, right? You're the one who gets to decide for everyone who the enemy is. And so if, if it's your decision, then whoever you don't like is the one you get to spread disinformation on. Right. And it's, it's basically now you're not, you're not looking at something like objective truth and saying, okay, well, that person did something good here or bad here, et cetera. Instead, you're just like, everything they do is bad because I don't like them and I
Starting point is 00:50:11 don't want them to have any kind of power. So I'm going to do whatever I can to thwart that. And so now I'm the one who gets to decide who's the one in charge. Like how weak, aren't you acknowledging the weakness of your position when you say like, in order for me to argue against this like my worldview trumps your worldview i have a better worldview i have a better plan for the future isn't that what you should be saying the only way for me to attack you is to make things up because there isn't anything genuine there if there's if there's
Starting point is 00:50:40 really stuff that's genuinely bad about elizabeth warren then you don't have to make shit up. You just say it. Just say that stuff. And then objectivity, the truth, will then let everybody know how bad that stuff is. Right. If it comes out that she's eating the faces off babies to stay young, and the public
Starting point is 00:51:00 needs to know that, okay, then we need to know that, right? And then if you say it out loud and everybody's like, well, fuck that, want that lady then it worked right but if it's not true and you say she's eating the faces off babies to stay young doesn't that matter it should matter right and doesn't that like doesn't that say like i don't have any argument like i don't have yeah i got nothing here i'm weak in this position about an economic policy fuck she'll fucking she'll face fuck me right you know i don't i don't know. Yeah, I got nothing here. I'm weak in this position about economic policy. Fuck. She'll fucking she'll face fuck me. Right. You know, I don't I don't know anything about economic policy. So I'm just going to make some shit up. So I'm just going to make anything I can up that's damning. I can I'll be OK. I'll make my bed. I'll lay in it and I'll deal with my my creator.
Starting point is 00:51:38 I'll say I'm sorry about some of that fake news I spread against terrible people. You think that I know whether rapinoe is actually a uh a satan worshiper of course not of course not i kind of love it he's like i don't know about any of this i don't know i don't know who this person is i'm willing to tell gullible people that it's true because they'll believe it yeah i'll even say out loud that i'm spreading disinformation it won't here's the crazy that's the crazy thing. That's the crazy thing. It doesn't matter. It won't halt the spread of disinformation.
Starting point is 00:52:07 It doesn't matter. We're in a place where you can be like, I'm lying to you. And they're like, yeah, I believe that. That's fine. That's cool. That's cool. I actually, what I won't do is I won't believe you're lying to me. And then I'll subsequently believe the lie.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Let me retweet this. I have no idea. There's some stuff that makes you wonder. There's some stuff that makes you wonder. There's some stuff that makes you wonder, okay? Makes you look, oh, she might be a Satan worshiper. Do I know that definitively? Did I throw that out there and get it to go viral? I had another dipshit yesterday. He tried to fact check me on that one.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Why are you taking up for Megan Rapinoe? Why are you defending up for megan rapinoe why are you defending megan rapinoe whether she is or isn't a devil worshiper doesn't fucking matter to me that dirty piece of shit is a horrible representation of the united states of america and our values one could say the same to you sir like i'm listening to this i'm just like you just like You're everything I've ever hated In a human being right now You're the human version of truck nuts I guess you are
Starting point is 00:53:12 And if all I've got to do Is link together a couple of fucking things That make her look like a satanist To take some shine off that bitch's moment I'll do it every time A lot of you don't know how to fight And a lot of you don't have the fucking guts to do what I'm doing because lying to people, that's not hard. It's not brave.
Starting point is 00:53:32 It's like literally the easiest thing in the world to do to lie to people. You know, what's hard is owning up to actually being, being honest and being a truthful person. That's a hard thing to do. That's the, that's the hard path. The easy path is lying. That's the path of no resistance. That's the weak fucking path. That's the coward's path. You're a fucking coward is what you are. Fuck you. Fucking hard path. You're a pussy. You're a giant pussy who's going to lie to get your way. You're weak. You're the weakest, shittiest person I could possibly imagine. Who the fuck's powerful in this situation? You fucking kidding way. You're weak. You're the weakest, shittiest person I could possibly imagine. Who the fuck's powerful in this situation?
Starting point is 00:54:07 You fucking kidding me? You're lying to get your way. You're like a little kid. Yep, yep. I didn't steal that, Mom. I didn't take that. You guys don't have the guts to make up stories and malign someone's character
Starting point is 00:54:19 rather than dealing with the world as it is because it's hard and I can't get that way. Unbelievable. What a fucking giant fucking loser. What an absolute loser. Guys, frankly, you're probably better people than I am. Certainly. Frankly, frankly, sir, you're a fucking coward.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Literally one of the worst people we've ever had on this show. I mean, really genuinely, really genuinely. Most of these guys, most of these guys have some sort of illusion that they're like, I, you know, like they're hiding behind Jesus and they're saying, look, Jesus is good. So by association, I'm kind of good, right?
Starting point is 00:54:59 Like, what do you say? This guy's just like, no, I'm a genuinely bad person. This, what's amazing is like, can you imagine you're one of his listeners and you listen to this guy's just like no i'm a genuinely bad person this what's amazing is like can you imagine you're one of his listeners and you listen to this you're like okay well he'll just lie about whatever is convenient for him so why am i going to listen to the next thing he said yeah i know everything i need to know now this is somebody i don't i can't trust to trust this person would be foolish he told me you guys are dipshits. If you trust me.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Yeah. He said it. So why would I listen to his next video? Like, why would I listen to anything? So somebody who's willing to lie to me like this, like, why would I have any,
Starting point is 00:55:35 you better be telling me a fucking fictional story. Right? Like if you're not talking about like a fucking, a galaxy far, far away in a long time ago, then what the fuck? You know, you can lie to me all you want if it's fiction, but if you're trying to pretend that it's the truth
Starting point is 00:55:49 and you're telling me that you're going to lie to me, why on earth would I ever think that I should trust anything you have to say? You want answers? I think I'm entitled. You want answers. I want the truth. You can't handle the truth.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Okay, this story is amazing in every aspect, and we just need to read it because there's nothing for it but just to read how amazing it is. This is from NPR, our local NPR in Chicago. Lawyer says, shooter wasn't trying to kill a mob boss. He was under QAnon delusion. God, what a crazy person. So there's a picture of him, by the way, with a bunch of Q shit written in pen all over his hand. He must have had time in study hall. I know, he looks like my 12-year-old,
Starting point is 00:56:31 just shit written all over him. A 24-year-old man has been charged with shooting to death the reputed New York mob boss earlier this year thought he was under the influence of QAnon. Pro-Trump internet postings about the president supposedly battling a cabal of liberal elites his lawyer wrote in a recent submission that he probably was embarrassed to fucking write he's questioning he's like i should have gone to veterinary school what the fuck was
Starting point is 00:56:57 i thinking so prosecutors have charged anthony camello with murder over the fatal shooting of francesco cali the alleged leader of the Gambino crime family, who was gunned down outside his Staten Island home in March. But in a new court filing, Camillo's attorney argues that he became so engrossed with unsupported QAnon theories. Oh, hold on. All QAnon theories are unsupported. I don't know if they're making that distinction here, but let's just make that distinction really quickly. Then on the night of Kelly's death, he was acting under a delusion, which included the Democratic politicians, celebrities and people associated with organized crime were all part of the deep state.
Starting point is 00:57:37 He wrote that his client believes he was on a mission to save the American way of life. You know, this is one of those times where it's like the internet it's bled into the real world ah didn't go well you know there are some times where you're just like you know like like i remember when the internet first came out and there you know there's a lot of smiles and like oh they're gonna make funny happy videos and then once in a while you'll see a dark side and you're just like, oh, no, these people, there's like people who just can't handle it. Yeah, right. They can't handle it.
Starting point is 00:58:08 They were there. They're insane people that cannot handle this kind of thing. And they they can't they can't filter information well enough to know whether or not something's true or not. I think it's like when we talked about the incels before, there's a magnifying effect that being able to curate your information experience, which is like one of the features of just living in an online space. Being able to curate your information space has a magnifying effect on the value and truth of the information that you consume in that way. on the value and truth of the information that you consume in that way. And so like the incels meet other incels and they create a world and this guy meets these other people and, but not actually meets. And then they create a world and that world feels total. And instead of understanding how small and insulated it is and how open to other thoughts and ideas it should be, insulated it is and how open to other thoughts and ideas it should be, it can become very consuming. And that magnifies the effect of it. Beginning with the election of President Trump
Starting point is 00:59:14 in November of 2016, Anthony Camillo's family began to notice changes in his personality. Mr. Camillo's support for QAnon went beyond mere participation in a radical political organization. It evolved into a delusional obsession when camillo arrived at callie's home remember callie's a mob boss yeah this is fucking amazing this is crazy to me that this happened according to filing his plan was to stage a citizen's arrest of the head of the campino crime family cdc it seeds are right he shows up and he looks like gomer you know what's amazing is he only had one bullet in that gun so different guy i know but same fucking crap
Starting point is 00:59:53 blandest stage of citizens arrested they're all southerners it's the same person doesn't matter aren't they all from the same show they are from the same yeah okay but after he did exchange with callie camello says the i would have i would love to hear that exchange i'm here to arrest you i'm president trump's authority go fucking fuck yourself fucking shit bird get the fuck out of here huh take your fucking cue and shove it right up your own ass i had no idea this guy was even talking about. Camillo says the alleged mob boss made a furtive action with his hand,
Starting point is 01:00:29 which made Camillo afraid for his life. He then reached into his pickup truck, grabbed the gun and fired at Cali. He made an action with his hand.
Starting point is 01:00:36 What he did was he waved off. He said, go get your fucking shine box. That's what he said. I love. I don't shine shoes
Starting point is 01:00:44 anymore. How have you heard? I love it. Like he's pulling the, I was afraid for my life card, but then he had to go into his truck to get the gun. I was afraid for my life confronting a known. I was afraid for my life.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Cause I crawled into the tiger cage it's like hold on a second I'm gonna go in my car and instead of leave in my car I mean I don't like to blame my victim here I do this in this one here if you would have got it I would have kind of blamed you because you really did go after a guy. You know, it's like it's like walking up and like flicking the ear of like fucking Conor McGregor. I don't know. That's a good idea. I can't believe I only flicked his ear and beat me to death.
Starting point is 01:01:37 He took my esophagus out of my body and took it on a world tour with him. Unbelievable. Because of his self-perceived status in QAnon, Mr. Camillo became certain that he was enjoying the protection of President Trump himself and that he had the president's full support, his lawyer wrote to court. The details contained in the filing are part of Camillo's planned mental disease or defect defense. How do you plead? Q. I plead defect. this fucking thing i'm here does not work working news of kelly's death ignited speculation about a possible restart of duels among new york's mafia
Starting point is 01:02:15 families the new york daily news reported shortly after kelly's death that investigators initially suspected an underling of kelly or someone who a beef with him. Wouldn't it be amazing if somebody found some crazy QAnon conspiracy, one of the other families, and they just started planting information about the other family just to get one of them killed? You know what I mean? Like, well, fuck, they're going to go hold up a pizza place. We could get Kelly, get Kelly killed. Let's get Kelly. You know, let's fuck it. All we got to do is just plant some crazy shit in this QAnon thing it's literally anonymous no one will know it's me it's like a feature not a bug right but neither theory turned out to be true and what really happened according to camillo's lawyer was even stranger camillo carried out his violent act as
Starting point is 01:02:59 a way of fighting against the deep state to expose the entire conspiracy and ensure that every criminal is brought to justice. Jesus Christ. At a court hearing shortly after his arrest, Camillo held up his palms which had ink scribbling of MAGA and the letter Q. Possibly a Q in ensemble. Possibly. On his folder he also had written
Starting point is 01:03:18 Metallica on there. With the letters. With the long letters. The lightning letters. The lightning letters. Yeah, he did that oh my god he added on his fucking denim jacket and whiteout oh so good canamello had a history of bizarre stunts according to the filing i love this too he attempted to arrest new y Mayor Bill de Blasio. No kidding.
Starting point is 01:03:46 At his official residence, but was thwarted by the police. In another instance, Camillo went to a federal district courthouse in Manhattan, believing that United States Representative Maxine Waters and Adam Schiff were there. His lawyer said he had planned to arrest and detain the two Democrats from California. He then went to a U.S. Marshal service office nearby, but was unsuccessful in securing their assistance in his attempt to arrest both representatives. Guys,
Starting point is 01:04:11 I love it. Guys, writing guys. I just want to, I know you guys are busy doing U.S. Marshal stuff, but I just want to let you know, I need to arrest the two United States representatives.
Starting point is 01:04:25 You have a few minutes. I don States representatives. You have a few minutes. I don't know if you have a few minutes. Maybe you get Tommy Lee Jones out here. He can come help me. You guys probably aren't part of the deep state, but I would like us to search every birdhouse doghouse. So we are not going to thank our patrons this week. We are going to thank our patrons in a couple weeks.
Starting point is 01:04:50 We had to record a couple of sessions in a row because I am going on vacation for a little while. So we had to record several sessions in a row. So we are not going to thank patrons this week, next week, or the following week. We are, however, going to thank them all when we come back and we will have a live stream. We said we were going to do a live stream this month, but we are not going to be doing a live stream. We are going to be doing a live stream. So mark your calendars. I know this is coming out well before, but we're going to mention it every week for the next three weeks. So you remind yourself and put it on your calendar. We are going to be doing a live stream on the 25th of August. We're
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Starting point is 01:06:00 Tom, we talked about Bulldogs and several people sent messages. I saw a thread on, on our fan page. Um, veterinarians saying horrible, horrible dog, horrible dog. It's they're just, they're just broken from the outset.
Starting point is 01:06:15 And I, and I did look it up 20 at only 20% are born naturally. That's 80% are cesarean section. It's wild. Isn't that crazy? I just couldn't believe when I, you said it, I was like,
Starting point is 01:06:25 God, really? They, yeah, but they're, they're so fucking weird. Yeah. They're so head big and pelvis small.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Yeah. But there, but evidently like there, there's a ton of health problems that, that bulldogs have. There's a weird garbage animal. Yeah. There's a shitty garbage.
Starting point is 01:06:41 And look at the face of them. Uh, we want, we want to send them a message out to Craig from butt fuck Ohio. He says he's been a listener for years and he would send us a message. We want to say thank you, Craig, for listening in for all those years.
Starting point is 01:06:53 We do really do appreciate it, Craig. So Adam says, it doesn't matter if it's a hebephilia, if he, he, he, he,
Starting point is 01:07:02 he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he,
Starting point is 01:07:04 he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he,
Starting point is 01:07:04 he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, pedophilia, they're-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f-f about a pedophile network. Right. And the reason why we brought it up is to talk about how that's not true in this particular case. Yes, he's raping children.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Absolutely. I totally agree. I totally agree. But I think that the reason why we brought it up was because he, Epstein in particular, he's not a pedophile. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:41 And I think we're not splitting hairs there because we all agree they're children, but they are not babies. Right. and i think that that's the difference and that and that's the claim that the q deep state conspiracy which is a job which is why i brought it up yeah yeah but absolutely adam and i think tom and i are 100 in your camp it doesn't matter the mo you know if you if you're fucking a 16 year old and you know like that's illegal that's illegal because there are some places in the country, like that's illegal, that's illegal. Because there are some places in the country where it's not illegal.
Starting point is 01:08:07 16 is not illegal. But let's go to 15. I'm going to guess they're south of the Mesa. If you're fucking a 15-year-old, I'm pretty sure that's illegal everywhere. Unless you're 15. Unless you're 15. So Dave Thomas, friend of the show. Gosh, years Dave Thomas has been listening.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Dave's been listening since the very... I mean, I want to say first several episodes, maybe first 25 episodes, Dave sent a message in long time ago. So Dave's, uh, from the UK, the burgers and Dave is so good. Dave Thomas, always fresh, never froze. Dave Thomas. I love your spicy chicken sandwich. Um, but, uh, but he sends in a message to say that Boris, uh, what was his name? Boris Johnson.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Uh, the guy who looks like, uh, he looks like that guy from, what was his name? Boris Johnson. Yeah. The guy who looks like he looks like that guy from from Dumb and Dumber. Does look like Jeff. But but anyway, the guy he's he is. So a lot of people are confused on how this works. I guess in the UK, they don't elect the prime minister. The prime minister is elected by the party. So they elect the party. Right. And then the ruling party gets to decide who the prime minister is. And so they have an internal election based on that, based on their party. And it's not internal in the sense there's a couple hundred thousand people that are part of this that get to vote several hundred thousand people. I'm not sure exactly how many thousands of people, but it's a lot of people, but it's not
Starting point is 01:09:23 the whole population. It's just that particular group's representatives or whatever gets to vote on this. And then they choose a new prime minister because Theresa May stepped down. So when people are like weirded out by this Boris guy who is a Brexiter and a crazy, you know, crazy right wing guy, they're like, oh, my gosh, the world's turning right wing. It's like, well, no, they were already in power and they're just choosing a new right wing person instead of Theresa May, who was right wing already. Selecting a nut from a group of nuts. Exactly. But they, it's not that the rest of, of Britain decided that Boris Johnson was the new, it's that their party decided that he was. So some people though hadn, hadn't. Some people were a little, I did see some social media stuff about,
Starting point is 01:10:07 oh my gosh, this is, you know, like some stuff that was freaking out about it. But that's not how it works. I don't know that many of them. It works, it's a lot. It's a lot, but they did say it was like only 0.03% of the electorate or something. It's a tiny amount.
Starting point is 01:10:22 That's how many show up to vote in America. It's a tiny amount. And I might be misunderstanding, I might be misremembering, but I thought it was in the hundreds of thousands. So we got a message from Shane and Shane just wanted us to know that there are people who don't like to fuck. There's asexuals out there. And, uh, and so I totally get that. I know that there's a bunch of ace people out there. I've, I actually know one. I know, uh, a lady who I've known for, gosh,
Starting point is 01:10:46 I've known her for maybe 15, 20 years. I don't know just one. I think I know two aces. Really? Yeah. So I know a couple of ladies who are aces. Huh?
Starting point is 01:10:54 Um, and, uh, and so, yeah, I totally respect, you know, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:58 You don't want to diddle. Don't do it. You do you or don't do you. Don't do you. Don't do any. You can not do any. You could tap out or not tap out. Just fine. if here's the thing though if you are an ace you can still go to adamandeve.com and you could got like lube for your car i guess you could buy a present for a
Starting point is 01:11:18 friend exactly and they won't think it's threatening either because you're an ace right so you give them whatever you want you give them the biggest goddamn dildo in there. You will give them the table size dildo. You could buy them the scariest, craziest, like most extreme sexual device. And they would take it and have to smile at you. All right. So I'm going to read this. This is from Matt.
Starting point is 01:11:41 He says, I was listening to BBC Global News podcast episode, UK leadership handover from today. And that was on the 24th. At 11 minutes, they had a story about an El Salvador strict abortion laws where women have to prove in court that their stillbirth wasn't an abortion. And it details the story of a woman who was jailed and missed 11 years of her now 14 year old son's life. So we can't go down that road. So those people that are, you know, saying, you know, like you guys were blown out of proportion with with Alabama. Yeah, probably not. Maybe not.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Maybe not. So we got a message from Freya and Freya said, hey, I was listening to this old episode where they're talking about Jeff Epstein and you guys made fun of it. And I say you guys need to give an apology. So truly and honestly, we do need to give an apology to Liz Ten Fingers. Eight fingers. Croken, who is someone who I think is the one who gave us the who did do the. You know, maybe it might have been, you know, it might have been Vandersteel who did it. It might've been Vandersteel. Might've been her who was talking about pedophile Island. So here's the thing,
Starting point is 01:12:52 blanket apology to female right-wing pundits who mentioned pedophile Island. Making fun of that. Didn't know there was a pedophile. I didn't know about the Jeffrey Epstein stuff. No. Um, because the Miami Herald isn't from Chicago. So I didn't know that that was a thing. But now that it is national news, I absolutely 100% think that, you know, that was something I didn't know about. However, I will say that their distortion of it is ludicrous. So I will still stand by the distortion of that is ludicrous. I will still stand by the distortion of that as ludicrous,
Starting point is 01:13:28 but absolutely there was a little St. Jeff Island that he had and still has, I think. So maybe he can go curl up in a fetal position down there. Yeah. Also, there was a part of this email too I wanted to address. You said that your mom listened to it and wasn't happy because she said they claim to be objective, but then they make lots of comments about people's appearances. That's not very objective. I have never claimed to be objective. I don't think we're skeptical. I don't think we've ever said we're objective. I'm not objective.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Also, I think you're allowed to make fun of people when you're ugly. I think if you're ugly yourself, you can make fun of other people that are ugly it's like you know you being black and using the n-word you're allowed to do those right it's part of your right it's part of your rights yeah i've taken back that word i've taken back ugly you can't use the u-word so um so uh the next like we said the next couple episodes are record are pre-recorded so the next couple episodes will be pre-recorded. But we think that they're very good, so you're going to want to enjoy those. And like we say, set your calendars, check your calendars, put it all together.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Make sure you put it on your, you know, open your phone now and go and be like, all day event, live stream, 25th of August. We're not live streaming all day. We're not live streaming for part of the day. But you're going to want to be fun. You're going to want to get ready, get your guacamole ready ahead of the day. But you're going to want to be, you're going to want to be fun. You're going to want to get ready, get your guacamole ready ahead of time. It's like the big game,
Starting point is 01:14:48 you know, you're going to want to do that. So, but that's going to wrap it up for this week. We're going to leave you like we always do with the skeptics. Creed. you you Credulity is not a virtue. It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue, hypno-Babylon bullshit. Couched in scientician, double bubble, toil and trouble, pseudo-quasi-alternative,
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