Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 485: Mohammedans

Episode Date: September 2, 2019

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Starting point is 00:02:19 this hour do you remember the world had hours i do i do i do the world used to like you'd be like oh it's closed you know we were recording uh coming up there's a uh recording of citation needed that's coming up and i'm not going to give away what the topic is because you know why would i do that um but i probably just listen to all of them just listen to them all but and one of the citation needed episodes, we're talking about how it doesn't seem out of place that people would be filming something in 2001. Right. And, uh, we didn't have ubiquitous camera phones. So it is, you know, you would have, you would have had to, you would have had to go out and get an actual video camera,
Starting point is 00:03:01 which was thousands of dollars at that time. When did camera phones become really ubiquitous? I don't remember having anything but like a flip camera phone type thing. Well, you could take like potato video. Yeah, right. You know, where you're just like, yeah, I get, I could take this for exactly four seconds
Starting point is 00:03:20 because that's how much time I have on my thing. And it also looks like, you know, like it's fucking through a pinhole camera you know right it'll create Vaseline yeah yeah plus like there was nothing you could do with those pictures remember like you'd get a picture oh yeah I remember that and then you'd be like it'd be like if I squint it's either a Cinemax titty or a cat you don't know which and then you'd have to like send it to yourself but you never had data enough to do it so you were just like I don't just i guess it just stays on my phone as like a useless picture
Starting point is 00:03:48 like even if you sent it to somebody it would be like another shitty useless picture that they could squint at like you couldn't i remember i remember being baffled when camera phones first came out thinking it was like useless weirdest thing to add to your telephone and be like why is my telephone need to have a camera in it? Yeah. And then I had one and it was like, this is the worst thing anyone's ever put in a device ever. Back in the day, they were terrible. And then they eventually got to be almost, if not better than most cameras.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Are you confused about the economy? Unsure how it all works? Great. Just making sure. Because there's no way we could have one of the fastest growing inequality rates in the world if you understood trickle-down economics. Trickle-down economics is when we let the rich piss on you and we tell you it's raining. This is a story from the LA Times.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Column, trickle-down theory is a monstrous lie intended to justify the rich getting richer. Well, that's pretty much exactly what it says. So let's talk about trickle-down economics. Sure, sure. what it says. So let's talk about trickle down economics. Sure. So, um, it is the, it is the bizarre. And if you say it out loud and, and like tilt your head like a dog, like a dog, it still doesn't make any sense. It's the idea that if you give the wealthiest, uh, job creators, remember that phrase? Yeah. I do remember that phrase. Um you give tax cuts and incentives and other financial gimmies and giveaways to the people at the top, financially at the top, what they're going to do is they're going to turn around and they're going to reinvest that money into the economy.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And to give the whole theory, it's correct. They're going to reinvest that money into the economy in ways that accelerate the economy. So they're going to invest in their widget factory. And by investing, you know, somebody will have to buy a new machine and someone will get a job building that machine. And, you know, my company will now have a bigger machine, so I'll need employees to run the machine. And that's the idea.
Starting point is 00:05:37 And it would work if you gave money to people and then they spent it exclusively on items within the economy that were churn items right that that had um that that had money that got used up and then generated more money sure right we know for certain that that's not the case that doesn't work like that yeah what happens instead is when you give money incentives tax breaks, to the folks at the very top, most of it just gets kept by the folks at the very top. Sure. Because they don't need that money and so they don't spend on a needs
Starting point is 00:06:11 basis. Yeah. And that's something that like I was thinking about like why is it that why is it we're duped by this idea? You know what I mean? Because we're duped by this idea. Right. 62 million people in the last election were duped by this idea. You know what I mean? Because we're duped by this idea. Right. The 62 million people in the last election. Yeah. We're duped by this idea. And I would venture to say that it's more
Starting point is 00:06:29 than that. They just didn't get out to vote. Right. Yeah. And we've been duped by this idea since Reagan. Sure. Right. Yeah. So this is an idea. And I think it's because if you're a regular person, you don't understand the idea of not spending your money. Yeah. So we are answering the wrong question. The question we're answering is, well, if I give money to the top, what will they spend it on? And you think that way if you're like me or like you.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Because if you give me money and you say, what are you going to spend that money on? I have an answer to that question. If you give that money to Jeff Bezos, you say, what are you going to spend that money on? And he's going to say, what would I spend my money? I don't need anything else. I drive around in a whatever, you know, maybe he still drives around in his fucking escort or whatever, but still the idea is that he's spent all the money he needs to spend. Right. There's a finite amount of spending. Yeah. So what wealthy
Starting point is 00:07:19 corporations, people, et cetera, what they do is they spend money on making more money. Yeah. That's where the, and that's not the same thing as spending into the economy in a way that churns in a way that moves things throughout the economy and i think we do this because like we genuinely as regular working people we don't understand the idea that you could have so very much wealth that that wealth doesn't do anything except for just generate more wealth. Investing in stocks doesn't create more jobs, guys. No. It doesn't ever trickle down.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah. It fucking hovers around at the top. It fucking licks its finger and dances around the rim and never gets its way inside. Never gets inside. Never, never penetrates, so to speak. You know, what's interesting is, is we, we hear that term trickle down and we say, okay, you're going to give X amount of money to those people at the top. And we expect that they're going to go back down to a break even point, right? So let's say we give them $10 million
Starting point is 00:08:18 in tax breaks. We automatically expect that they're going to say, okay, I'm going to reinvest this $10 million. And that's not true. They don't, they don't bring themselves're going to say, okay, I'm going to reinvest this $10 million. And that's not true. They don't, they don't bring themselves back down to the, to the level that they were at before they got the break. They don't automatically say, well, I'm going to, you know, I got this great tax break from the government. The government gave me this tax break. It's a $10 million tax break. I know I'm just making up numbers here, but whatever it is, whatever it is, you don't say, okay, well then it's just, I'm just going to take that and I'm going to reinvest it into things that are going to help build the economy. You know, I'm going to reinvest it into my business. I'm going to do it. No, they're already making money. They've already made this
Starting point is 00:08:55 extra money that they are, you know, they're now getting from the government or the, you know, this entitlement program, let's call it what it is. Right. Corporate welfare. Yeah, corporate welfare. They're getting this money. So they're not going back down to zero. They're going to go back down to, they might not even go down at all. They might not spend it at all.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Yeah. Dude, it's literally built into the terminology. Yeah. Why do you want a trickle? Yeah. Why would you be satisfied with a trickle? At what point in your life i don't care on what end of the equation you're at at what point in your life are you
Starting point is 00:09:29 looking at a trickle and like that made me happy we're not all 80 with kidney stones right you know where you're happy with a trickle you know yeah everyone wants a gusher yeah everybody well and and what and what do they do uh you know when we we have this economy and we we have had this economy for a long time, every single time the Republicans get in, they give huge tax cuts to the wealthy and nothing happens to our economy except for it goes to shit, right?
Starting point is 00:09:53 Because we basically clear cut all the programs that help people better themselves and get better jobs and be a smarter, just a smarter economy in general. We clear cut all that shit. And then we wonder why we're losing all these jobs overseas, et cetera. Why you're not the think tank you once were.
Starting point is 00:10:10 You wonder why all that happens. It's because you cut all those programs out that helped us get to where we were before. But the other thing is, is that, you know, we also shame the poor all the time for wasting their money. We say it all the time. We're like,
Starting point is 00:10:29 Oh, what the fuck do you need an iPhone for? What do you need a flat screen TV for? What do you need? You know, why would you need to go on vacation? Why would you? So we judge the poor all the time for their money expenditures. We constantly do it. Right. Right. But we never do the opposite. We never judge the rich for their, you know, for their non expenditures of this money. We don't bother to say, right you know, for their non expenditures of this money. We don't bother to say, well, we put, we gave you money. Why aren't you putting it back into the economy? We don't say that to them. Instead, we're just like, no, it's fine. Yeah, no, that's good. That's exactly what we should do. The reason why we put, we, we, we do that to the poor people is because we're all, we're all just sitting here waiting for the trickle, right? We're all waiting
Starting point is 00:11:01 for the trickle to happen. It it's like we're hyper individualistic about success right right and like we're hyper individualistic about blame stuff it's like we what i was thinking as you were talking it's like we don't we don't judge rich people at the same for not spending their money right because it's like well they can do whatever they want with yeah they can do whatever they want with it well what about that poor person well they can't do whatever they want with it right and. They can do whatever they want with it. Well, what about that poor person? Well, they can't do whatever they want with it. Right. And I'm on a drug test them.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Right. Yeah. They, they, because that's some of that's mine. Right. And that's the idea is like, well, I'm helping poor. Well, first of all, like the amount of money, like if you break down, like how much of your actual taxes, if you're a regular person with a median income paying a regular tax, the amount of money that you paid that person specific
Starting point is 00:11:46 it's it's it's so de minimis that to even like think about it is insulting yeah right right it's crazy and it's also it's like it's your safety net too yeah you just yeah you're just not using it right now like i don't care who you are could be more income for you too yeah if we didn't give them that that tax cut then you might have more income. Right. So they are taking money from you too. Right. Yeah. Just as more than the fucking poor person. And like most of those fucking poor people are working.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Yeah. They're working. And like they're not getting paid a livable wage. And they're not getting paid a livable wage so that huge profits can go to these massive corporations who just keep the profit. Yeah. It never trickles down to a worker. It's all about, it's,
Starting point is 00:12:27 it always stays the top quarterly gains. Well, shareholders getting dividends. That's what it's about. It's about that. How are we fooled by? I don't know. Like here's a real easy experiment.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Take 10, take $10 million and give $10 million to one person or split up $10 million, 100,000 people. Everybody gets $1,000, right? So we take $10 million on one hand and give it to one guy. And then you take that up and you give it $1,000. Let's do the Andrew Yang moment where we say 100,000 people, we're going to split $10 million up between you all. We're going to each give you $1,000 people, we're going to split $10 million up between you all. We're going to each give you $1,000. I'm telling you right now, most of that money, if you're giving away $1,000 to a regular people, I'll tell you what, I know you have a place for $1,000. I know I have a place for $1,000.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I guarantee most of the people listening to us, if not all of the people listening to us are not living in a, in a, in a, in a life where they can say, no, I would just, I don't know what I would do that. I just tuck it away or I wouldn't do anything with it or whatever. I'll buy stocks. Yeah. They're, they're most of the people listening to us would be like, I would pay that bill down or I would pay off that credit card. Or I would, I would maybe buy that TV. I had my heart set on from last year, or maybe I, you know, they would use that money. I would use that money. I would buy insulin. That's like one insulin nowadays, but it's like, but like, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:50 you'd buy an insulin or whatever you would do with it. You would find a way to use that money. The $10 million person, even if it's you or me, I'm not spending $10 million. There's no way you give me $10 million tomorrow. I'm going to spend, I will spend guaranteed. I'll spend like a little, almost certainly kind of go a little crazy, but I would probably keep half of it hidden away and bank accounts and places that it's not generating income for anybody but me. I would do that in a second. Yep. I wouldn't be like, no, yep. Oh, I got time to go back down to zero. You're not going to spend it like your mc hammer right you're not gonna do that whatever happened to to the and this is a little bit of an aside but
Starting point is 00:14:32 like whatever happened to the idea that conspicuous consumption was a bad thing like we we now like we we look at like the like the the ultra wealthy have a level of wealth at this point that is grotesque. Yeah. By comparison to, and I don't want to compare it to the poor, right? But by comparison to the average. Yeah. Even if it's, I would say even above average people. Even like high level executives and things like that in this country don't get paid like some of these CEOs and people who make a lot of money. I mean, some of these people make so much money. You can't even,
Starting point is 00:15:07 you can't even imagine about the money. You can't imagine that amount of money. Like there are people in this country who make so much money that their money sitting static in bad investment vehicles makes more than most people will ever make cumulatively in their lifetime that's a true thing yeah and not over a short term too like like over like you know a shorter term of no one asking about the whole time of their life yeah the dollars are just unbelievable their astronomical accumulation of wealth and it's like we used to see that and we would recognize the grotesquery of it. And now there's like, there's a subculture that, that really looks at the conspicuous consumption, ultra wealthy. And we say like, we kind of have this, like, isn't that cool kind of
Starting point is 00:15:59 attitude around it. And it's like, yeah, that would be cool if everybody's ship was rising. You know what I mean? We would, there would be room to have that like yeah a gold-plated lamborghini and like a fucking diamond studded cock cage sure would be fucking neat yeah if everybody was like doing okay but like almost everybody is a paycheck or two from bankruptcy yep Yep. That's a true. Yeah. So like this idea that we still kind of like laud that hyper wealth, that we look at that as some kind of, um, okay, like morally okay thing for our society to create. And I'll be clear about that. It's morally okay to be rich. It is not morally okay to create a society that accumulates wealth in that way. Right. Right. Those are different things. So I'm not condemning people who have in favor of an individual level. Yeah. But it used to be a
Starting point is 00:16:49 grotesquery. We used to recognize that. Yeah. And now it's like, it's kind of fashionable. It's fucking weird, man. Yeah. The amount of money that you're talking about too, we're not talking about like just a regular, like wealthy person, right. Somebody who lives in a big house with a nice car. Right. We're talking about somebody who lives in a big house with a nice car right we're talking about somebody who has so much money like we're talking about bezos who has so much money that he probably couldn't spend it in a lifetime a lot of these people are giving away half of their fortune because they just don't and they're giving it to like you know non-profits and what right they don't they can't they can't even use it there's nothing they could do they couldn't
Starting point is 00:17:22 use it yeah they wouldn't be able to the worst part about this entire thing is that, you know, we were talking about the 62 million or whatever who clearly believe this stuff. These are the type of people though, that could be like knee deep in shit. And Trump would say it's a fucking Rose garden. I know. And they'll believe it. They'll be like, no, this is, this is good. This is the economy is strong is what they'll say. Even though, you know, their tax cut, I know I got fucked on taxes and I know a lot of other people got fucked on taxes, but if you hear any of those people, they're never bringing that up. They're always just like, no, the economy is super strong. The economy is super strong. You know, the Dow can be at 27,000. That's okay. But it doesn't
Starting point is 00:17:56 mean my paycheck got any bigger. The Dow has nothing to do with jobs. It has nothing to do with wages. It has nothing to do with like my quality of life. Sure. You know, one of the things that I hear all the time, and when this comes up, the opposite side will say things like, oh, you just want to take their money away. Oh, you just want to, you just, you know, you, you didn't make it. So you just want to pull it away from them. You don't want to, you know, you don't want to earn your money. You don't want to earn it. You just want to take it away from these other people. That's what they say all the time. They say it constantly.
Starting point is 00:18:26 And I would argue that instead, what we should be doing is just having them pay their fair share. Cause we have been giving them money. We, you know, we, they say, Oh,
Starting point is 00:18:34 you just want to take their money away from me. But, but they've been taking away from us by getting all these, these, this trickle down, this trickle down. It, it favors them when they say we want to trickle down government. We're saying we want to favor the rich people and make it easier for rich people to be rich and spend their money.
Starting point is 00:18:53 That's what we're saying when we say that trickle down is the thing. So we're saying we've made it easier for them. I think all the rest of us are just saying, let's stop making it easy for them. Let's stop making it easy for them to have all this wealth and to keep accumulating it let's stop making it so easy that that they don't have to do anything to do it instead they just pay their fair share like everyone else does like i'm okay with not taking taking one dollar away from people that are rich but like i'd want to stop giving you my money yeah like keep what you've got you're already like staggeringly wealthy, but, but I'd like to be done paying into that kitty now. And the $10 million thing that they talk about when you get to 10, you get $10 million a year and then you
Starting point is 00:19:34 just start getting taxed like at 70%. You're spectacularly wealthy. You are so wealthy at that point. There's nobody that's good. There's that, that, that hits people hard, but it hits the right people hard. That's a lot of money a year. And that, yeah, right. Like that's 10 million in income.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Yeah. Not 10 million in total assets. It's not fucking capital gains. Right. No one, no one's saying like, Oh, now you're worth 10 million.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I'm taking 70. You're worth three. Yeah. What we're saying is like, at some point making this much money every fucking year is insane like and you're what you're doing and there's a recognition too i think that you're benefiting from the social and economic structures that we as a society have created yeah and so you pay into those right you could not have made this money in a vacuum don't pretend you're a fucking
Starting point is 00:20:22 island yeah you make this money because you get to live here amongst us in this in this country so it's not it's not like oh you know i did it without any benefit of the that's bullshit that's fucking garbage like you you leverage you leverage the roads and the infrastructure and the social programs and the economic policies all of those things are how part of how you got rich within the system so you owe the system yeah the system that you leveraged you owe it back yeah a new worm is deleting not only the porn on people's hard drives but all the porn on the internet entirely we're now seeing live footage from downtown boston where social order has completely broken down i was only halfway done halfway done all Halfway done!
Starting point is 00:21:06 Alright, this story comes from the Raw Story. Kentucky principal who tried to ban books over homosexual content busted for child porn. That's weird. It was clearly somebody else's. Somebody else's child porn. Somebody else's child porn. It had to be, right?
Starting point is 00:21:21 You know, like, when you think about it, he should have used the old excuse, my dog ate my child porn. It had to be, right? You know, like, when you think about, like, he should have used the old excuse, my dog ate my child porn. My dog ate my child porn. My dog should have eaten this child porn. I'd be in a lot less trouble. The principal is banning books? This isn't only in Kentucky.
Starting point is 00:21:37 It sure is. You can just tell. Like, it has a twang to it. You know? This story, like, I would be surprised if you weren't fucking children the the point of this article that i thought was really amusing was the guys like giving child porn to someone else like the reason why he got caught was he giving porn away who gives porn i mean i guess if it's like super illicit maybe he's like in like a group of people that are like all creepy but like
Starting point is 00:22:05 i thought to myself was like i think when i was like 15 or 16 like you share with your friends like oh i got a nudie magazine or whatever right yeah but at a certain point that got real private like it was like there wasn't like a moment where i was like hey let me show you this new porn actress i found like that nope especially like once you go online and it's like because not like when it was a magazine it's like this is a magazine at fucking 7-eleven i stole you know what i mean exactly and so yeah so like everybody's into like all your buddies were into boobs too sure but like now it's the internet so like now it's like so this is the stuff i'm into you know some shit about me that i'm like here's some stuff i'd like you to see here is my you know and you name whatever fetish you want
Starting point is 00:22:54 you know here's my hair fucking folder or whatever whatever it is yeah whatever it is there's millions of millions of fetishes out there it's like prying open your fucking head and being like look inside my brain and my brain i mean dick i want to say i want to say nobody needs to see that's all i want to say weirdly did you ever stumble across any of your dad's stuff oh yeah dad stuff yeah i stumbled across my dad's playboys when i was a kid penthouse letters penthouse penthouse letters letters oh my dad's he's a I was a kid. Penthouse letters. Penthouse. Penthouse letters. Letters. Letters. Oh, my dad's a, he's a, he's a sophisticated man. Sophisticated man.
Starting point is 00:23:28 He listens to, he likes to. He likes to jerk off to stories. What's crazy is, is like. Hang on a minute. I'm reading my stories. Like, does he have to wear his readers while he's talking? He's got it. Hold on a second now.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I got to read what this says. You know, as I vibrate my body it gets harder to read the letters so i think maybe you're just supposed to put it in like another book and like pretend you're reading something else it's like that one movie one movie was that where the guy was reading shakespeare inside of a porn mag what was that i don't know eight millimeter or something like that where the guy was like the hooker with the heart of gold porn guy. Oh, God, I remember that movie. And he had like a porn magazine.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Yeah. And then Nick Cage comes in. He's like, you're not reading porn. And he's like, no, I'm reading Dante's Inferno or something like that. He was like, he wasn't like looking at porn. He was looking at Dante's Inferno. This is the exact opposite. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:22 This is the opposite of that this is a guy who's at work who's trying to decide what books kids get to read while he's flipping through diddlin pictures gay stuff yeah you can't read about gay stuff what's not coming to my office it's god what do you get the why is it always the weird people who work with kids man i mean clearly they decided to do that because they had that thing but jeez it's fucking creepy they vet this guy a little better yeah you there has to like we need to come up with like some kind of like i gotta touch somebody brain scan you know and it's like man if you are then like you got to go live on we thankfully we have a place it's pedophile island pedophile we could just send you there. We could send you there.
Starting point is 00:25:05 It's like the Alcatraz for pedophiles. You could just fuck the corpse at Jeffrey Epstein. My son is gay. My son is gay. My son is gay. God. Gay. Gay.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Gay. Gay. He moved into the city and now he's gay why oh my son is gay told me he's gay you're gay you're gay he's here he's gay get used to it my son is gay hey my son's gay watch it all right it's from right wing watch gordon klingenschmidt teaching lgbtq history is an illegal measure of recruiting children into sodomy. All right. This is,
Starting point is 00:25:49 this is classic. This is, this is very much what his message has been forever, but, but he has a different guy on this time. Like a guy who kind of quasi looks like Aaron Rogers. I know he don't know that he is, but people in our audience will know who that is.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I will say this real quick. Gordon is not aging. Well, no, I mean, he was always horrifying that is, but people in our audience will know who that is. I will say this real quick. Gordon is not aging well. No. I mean, he was always horrifying to behold. Gordon looks like an orc. Gordon looks like he's got that piggy face going. He genuinely looks like an orc. Yeah, he looks like an orc that's been eating too many hobbits.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Oh, yeah, no. I mean, it looks like an orc that has not pushed himself away from the dinner table for a while. It's like an orc who's overloaded on hobbits and overloaded on chemotherapy as well. He does kind of have a melty face, too. He's got like his hair situation. Nothing good has happened. Really nothing at all.
Starting point is 00:26:35 All right, so this is Gordon and Alex Newman, his friend on the show. So here in Colorado, our first, in fact, America's first openly homosexual governor happens to be Jared Polis of Colorado. He just signed into law two bills, House Bill 1032 and 1192. Before he gets into this, I'm going to read what those bills are. Okay. So here we go. All right, here we go. So the 1032 is the Comprehensive Human Sexuality Education. The act adds certain content requirements for public schools
Starting point is 00:27:07 that offer comprehensive human sexuality education, including instruction on consent as it relates to safe and healthy relationships and safe haven laws. The act prohibits instruction from emphasizing sexual abstinence as the primary sole acceptable preventable method available to students and
Starting point is 00:27:25 prohibits instruction from explicitly or implicitly saying shame-based or stigmatizing language or instructional tools, employing gender stereotypes, or excluding the health needs of lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender individuals. If a public school teaches comprehensive sexual education, the public school is not required to include instruction on pregnancy outcome options. However, if a public school opts to provide instruction on pregnancy outcome options, it must cover all pregnancy outcome options available. Seems like a very liberal rule, but it also seems like a very sensible rule. It's just so reasonable. Everything you said, but it also seems like a very sensible rule. It's just, it's so reasonable.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Everything you said is like. There's 11, there's 1192 as well. I'm just saying like, it sounds literally comprehensive. It sounds very comprehensive. And it also sounds like, it's like, don't, don't fuck with people that are, that are minorities in sexuality, right? So LGBT, don't fuck, don't, don't fuck with them basically.
Starting point is 00:28:21 And also just, you know, we should have a system that doesn't say that abstinence is the best thing ever. Like it's smart. Yeah, it's called don't lie, don't fuck with them basically. And also just, you know, we should have a system that doesn't, uh, say that abstinence is the best thing ever. Like it's smart. Yeah. It's called don't lie. Don't shame.
Starting point is 00:28:29 It's smart. Yeah. That's great. I love it. The 92, 1192 is inclusion of American minorities in teaching civil government. The act mandates funding institute instruction in public schools of history, uh,
Starting point is 00:28:43 and civil government of the United States and Colorado, including but not limited to history, culture, social contributions of American Indians, Latinos, African Americans, and Asian Americans, LGBT individuals within these minority groups,
Starting point is 00:29:00 the intersectionality of significant social and cultural features within these communities and the contribution and persecution of religious minorities. These are monstrous bills. They are awful. So let's hear what he has to say, because clearly these are terrible. Is that, that's pretty much, that's it, right? That's it.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Like you didn't, you didn't skip the part. No, I didn't skip it. It's just don't teach. You guys should teach things that talk about other stuff on occasion. Yeah. Like stuff that where minorities were oppressed. So we should, we should, and we're talking about history. History should include people that were part of history. Yeah. That would be, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Okay. So, all right. Both of which require mandatory homosexual lectures to children in public schools. One of them, it's- That didn't sound like that at all. Mandatory homosexual lectures? What would a mandatory homosexual lecture be? I think it would be telling you how to suppress your gag reflex. I think that's what-
Starting point is 00:29:55 And that can go for either gender, really. I'm just saying, that's a skill everyone should learn. That's a great skill. Nobody doesn't appreciate that. Who doesn't want to eat an entire cucumber at one time? It's a requirement for graduation. You have to learn gay history on top of American history. In fact, the-
Starting point is 00:30:17 Or on bottom of, don't, it said- You're right. No, absolutely. Absolutely right, yeah. Could be either way. And they said no shaming, so. You're right. No, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Absolutely right. Yeah. Could be either way. And they said no shaming. The teachers, because they're always pressed for time and under pressure, they're going to have to neglect teaching about traditional things like Paul Revere. Instead, teach like you suggest, Mayor Harvey Milligan. Oh, my God. Hold on. Every history class is a fucking exercise
Starting point is 00:30:45 in omission, right? Yes, you cannot teach any period in history. You can't even teach a tiny fragmentary piece of history without deciding that you're going to include certain stories, certain aspects of culture, certain things that have happened. We're always making decisions. It's an editorial
Starting point is 00:31:01 thing. You have to do it. It's a fucking moving target. All we're doing is saying like, yeah, alright all right he's right that some things if you're going to include 20 fucking minutes about like harvey milk yeah the mid 20 minutes are gonna have to come out somewhere else but it's not like you have to take out 20 exact minutes of one other thing you could take one minute out of 20 other things and And the other thing is, is like both of them happened, right? It's not like, it's not like they're saying, oh, Harvey Milk rode through the streets and screamed, the British are coming. The British are coming, right?
Starting point is 00:31:32 They're not replacing Paul Revere with Harvey Milk. That's how they should do that. That is how they should do that. What we should do is we're going to include like. I want RuPaul as the first president of the United States. That's what i want i want rupal as the current president of the united states so do i i just but it's it's it's like it's not that they both didn't happen they both happened it's just like you are favoring one than the other you know it's it's interesting because we live in a, like I grew up my whole life, my whole life.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I've been a cis dude. I knew from a very young age, I liked women. Like I knew from a very young age and I've also never been, I've never thought to transition, right? Because I've always identified as a guy, right? As a guy, my whole life, there's never been a moment in my life where I haven't identified as a man, right? That's just something that's, that's just been true about my life. And there's never been a moment in my life where I've identified as anything, but straight. Those are just the things that I have, that I have fallen into in my life. But the world has been constantly catering to me my whole life. Like the world is constantly catering to me. You know, think of how many gay TV shows
Starting point is 00:32:48 there were in the last, I mean, you could start looking at some, right? There's a few. But growing up. But growing up, you know, there was a TV show where the guy had to pretend to be gay so he could live with two girls. Oh, I remember Three's Company.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Three's Company. And that was a joke. It was something that'd be like a joke. You know, it was like made fun of, right? There was a guy who cross-dressed in the army, you know? Yeah, to get a section eight. To be crazy, right? So he could prove that he was crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Yeah. So this idea that- I forgot about that. Right? So there, yeah. So we did that. Maybe it existed, but it was always shunned. It was always, as we said earlier, shamed, right. It was shamed. Right. So this idea that we live in
Starting point is 00:33:30 this culture that is constantly for all our lives, all our young lives has constantly been, um, basically privileging one group over and over and over again. I don't have to think when I go to the bathroom, right? I'm not, I'm not, uh, I'm not a, a non-binary or gender fluid or a transitioned at all. I'm not, you know, I'm, I'm just a cyst dude, right? So I walk into a, I go, where's the M where's the dude symbol? Where's the, I know what bathroom I'm going to use. That's a problem for some people. It's a genuine issue if it's just, you know, the binary choices. It's a genuine problem for some people. And, you know, when the moment you say, well, let's fix that problem, you know, just the bathroom issue, let's just fix that problem. Let's just change what we're doing and let's fix that problem. Suddenly all the people who've been catered to their whole life, constantly like,
Starting point is 00:34:26 why do we have to do that? What's the big deal? What's the big deal? And you're like, yeah, it's not a big deal because you've never had to deal with any adversity in your sexuality, your entire life. It's not a big deal to you because you've been privileged your whole life. It's just not, of course you don't even think about it. And you wonder why these snowflakes and it's like, yeah, well the whole world caters to you. Okay. Counterpoint. don't even think about it. And you wonder why these snowflakes. And it's like, yeah, well, the whole world caters to you. Okay, counterpoint. Don't you think that the world is better when it's better for me? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I mean, I don't know that you've thought that through, Cecil. Well, you know, what's funny is that if you were to make it better for all, they're against it. I think part of them does recognize that the world is for them. Yeah. And then, you know, and they're not... They're not willing to give an inch. Yeah, they're like, yeah, it should be for me because I'm the better. Yeah, that's what it sounds like, right?
Starting point is 00:35:10 Yeah. And they're redefining all of the textbooks. I think the Illinois bill you mentioned talks about all the textbooks have to carry gay symbology. For example, even mathematics now has to lectures about homosexuality it doesn't make sense but years ago this would be you know pedophiles recruiting and grooming children for their own you know perverse pleasure down the road literally a different thing there's there like like do we have to,
Starting point is 00:35:45 do we like still this idea, this idea that you're grooming people by just saying, Hey guys, Harvey milk existed. What? Plus like how many people, how many, how many people turn gay because Harvey milk existed?
Starting point is 00:35:58 Nobody's like, I want to be gay one day. Cause I like this gay guy that I heard about in history. I can't tell you how many times, and I don't know if this has ever happened to you, but I can't tell you how many times I've watched something and thought like, that looks delicious. I want one of those.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I've watched somebody like, when I watched Mad Men all the time, I'd be like, God, I kind of want a drink. I'd watch them, they're just always pouring themselves a whiskey, and I'd be like, I'm going to go get a whiskey. You know it's never happened to me i've never watched any tv show with a gay person like you know i kind of want to dick i would like to eat a dick that's just something that like it's not a thing for you i could watch it and then here's the i could watch
Starting point is 00:36:37 a million people drink eggnog yeah and i never meant to be like no i could go for an eggnog it never looks good right yeah i could watch i could watch that bizarre foods where that guy eats like donkey dick or whatever and be like i don't want any donkey dick or i don't want to eat a fucking like squid eye or a fucking like a like a fucking elephant toenail whatever the fuck that guy's choking down yeah i don't want to eat any of that right it's not that's not that i think you know but but i'll tell you what if i if i watch like chopped or something and they're making ice cream i'll'll be like, man, ice cream sounds really good right now. Right. Because I like ice cream.
Starting point is 00:37:07 You're already into ice cream. I'm predisposed to ice cream. At what point is this a complicated thing? I don't watch shit play on porn and be like, man, I could really go for somebody dropping a load on my chest right now. All of a sudden, it's like you pouring the water. I do have to shit. That's so weird. It's like, man, let me see if do have to shit that's so weird it's like man
Starting point is 00:37:26 let me see if i could get somebody involved in this let's see if we could do a three-way did i drink a cup of coffee half an hour ago what's going on who does it and it's funny because it's for everything it's for everything you have a proclivity towards right right it's all the things that you like you're like yeah i would like to do that like i see people skydive and i'm like i wouldn't do that it doesn't look fun i'm like that looks scary to me i don't want to do it right cool i wouldn't do it but there's other people seeing me like man the adrenaline rush looks amazing you know i know people who don't like roller coasters right i see picture rollercoasters like that looks pretty fun and then the other person's like i'm i probably would throw up and i wouldn't do it. And it's just like, it's like, it's everything.
Starting point is 00:38:05 It's actions. It's foods. It's sex. It's everything that you think you would be this enticed by. And that's why when he's seen the gay movie and he's been like, I got a little something going on in the panty pants. He's like, I feel like other people would have the same reaction that's exactly it right he's like a lecture about hot yeah sweaty men rubbing their hot sweaty head he's just like
Starting point is 00:38:34 yeah tell me about that lecture tell me about that lecture like be like if you just be comfortable with who you are right and if that's the thing that you're into, then just like be into it. And everybody doesn't care. We're all okay with this now. Why don't we see this as a illegal measure of recruiting children into sodomy? Because children have nothing to do with... Again, he's conflating the pedophilia thing.
Starting point is 00:39:02 I know, the pedophilia thing is crazy. It has literally nothing to do with homosexuality. It's crazy to me that they keep on withophilia thing it's crazy literally nothing to do homosexual it's crazy to me that they keep on with this but it's the only toehold they have at this point right because millennials and below right lower right lower generations or younger generations not lower generations you can't get lower than a millennial lower generation that's the worst generation we i'm sorry i'm kidding guys it's okay I'm kidding send us your hate mail with stamps but in any case in any case
Starting point is 00:39:32 oh man I'm afraid of the post office I wanted to send them an email I wanted to send them a snail mail and I can't because I'm terrified of the post office
Starting point is 00:39:41 if I was ever like if there was ever like a crowd of angry millennials like on a lynch mob I would just run into the post office run into the post office. If I was ever, like, if there was ever, like, a crowd of angry millennials, like, on a lynch mob, I would just run into the post office. Run into the post office. I would defeat them. And I would, like, cover myself in stamps and, like, try to hug them. They're like, I don't know what to do with it. Get away from me.
Starting point is 00:39:55 It is, like, fucking on their phones outside. Get away from me. I'm going to tweet about this. But seriously, though, the millennials are, and the younger generations, they don't care. Generation X, I think, for the most part, doesn't care where it's the boomers who care. Right. And it's the holdovers from the boomers. This guy's not a boomer, but he has boomer ideals. Right. So like you can still be a boomer and be 40, be 30.
Starting point is 00:40:19 You're still a boomer. You can be anachronistic at any time. You can yell about that rave music and to get those kids off my lawn. And why do these kill? I don't, these kids pill up their pants and you can do all the boomer stuff. You can do all that boomer shit and not be an actual boomer. But these guys have boomer ideals,
Starting point is 00:40:36 even if they're not technically boomers. Although that one guy looks like he's fucking the crib keeper at this point. So he's got it. He's got to be a boomer. He's a double boomer, but he's a bummer. I want to say is boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. But, but he's, he's one of these guys who's like, uh, they still have that. They still have that. I don't like gay people. And I don't, and I think other people don't like gay people, but all the
Starting point is 00:40:59 rest of the people, most of the people, a lot of the people lower in the, in the younger generations are just like, don't care. Literally don't care care now i know i'm not saying that it's completely safe to be a gay person i'm not saying being out is easy i'm not saying any of those things i'm saying there's plenty of places in this country where it still is dangerous to be a gay person those are all true statements but i think that the tide is shifting right in a huge way and i think that they're like we're gonna be we'll you know, you won't be laughing about it in 20 years, but I think you'll definitely be thinking, man, it was a real different world 20 years ago. Yeah, I think that's exactly how we should see it. In fact, years ago,
Starting point is 00:41:35 these people would have gone to prison for this sort of stuff, you know, exposing children to obscene material, grooming children, exposing them to sexual and indecent material. That's a crime. In fact, that's still a crime on the books in many states today. Indiana recently passed another law saying it would be a. Oh, Indiana. Yeah. That bastion of gay rights that is Indiana.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I would say, though, like I agree that like we should not show kids obscene material. Right. Like, yeah, that but like obscene material has to rise to the level of fucking obscenity. Right. Felony to expose children to obscene material. And yet these laws are not being enforced. The government schools all across America are still exposing the children to this stuff. It's getting more and more obscene. And I think quite simply, they have accomplished a radical transformation of the culture using the government school system with kind of air support from the far left media and from Hollyweird, you know, the satanic propaganda,
Starting point is 00:42:29 the filth, the LGBT agenda that comes out of all these places. And, you know, the consequences, we can already start to see what's happening. You know, we see the break. Oh, God, hold on. I gotta hear what the consequences are. Here we go, buddy.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I'm curious. Breakdown of the family. Okay, breakdown of the family. Like, are we talking like, do they lay out the cardboard and like do head spins? Oh, that's a break dance. Man, this family's got sick beats. This family can crunk. Skyrocketing abortion numbers school. That's not true. That's literally the opposite. It's actually, it's actually dropped since 1979. It's dropped 50%. Okay, well, when you say it like that, that's less.
Starting point is 00:43:08 It's dropped from like 29 out of 100,000 to 14 out of 100,000 or something like that. Yeah, but don't you think that in 1979, people were saving their abortions for when it was legal? They're just saving their pregnancies. Well, they're going to use them. They're going to use them as biofuel
Starting point is 00:43:22 because of the gas price hike or whatever. It's like a fetus piggy bank 20 you talk about that though 29 and 100 000 versus 14 and 100 000 yeah that's a that's crazy that's crazy numbers in comparison right yeah yeah and you also got to consider most of those people in the fort of the 14 like i would say many of them, if not all of them are having complications where they need it. Like, they're just like, Oh gosh,
Starting point is 00:43:50 I need this thing. And then when we looked at, when we looked at it, like the vast majority of people that have abortions also already have kids. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Yeah. It's not the story that you're fucking told by these. Yeah. It's certainly not where they say that. Right. And they say the same thing with like crime rates too. They're like, crime rates are going through like no they're not no
Starting point is 00:44:06 they've been on a steady decline for a long time long time well shootings uh you know the collapse of our society the collapse of our civilization the erosion has that happened did i miss the collapse of our society jesus i feel like i need to prep call jim baker i need to get some buckets jesus the weirdest thing happened like we came to the studio and hit the light switch and the lights came on yeah i know because society's still here and that and the room wasn't full of pirates yeah that would be amazing if we just open the door and there's like fucking 14th century pirates just like no if they don't say surprise we open the door. Surprise! Mates! We're on the sixth floor, they're like trying to dig down. We keep dropping the treasure, but it just keeps
Starting point is 00:44:51 falling. Go down to the level below and get the treasure. Bring her back up here. You just buried it in our neighbor's suite. In our liberties, you see, you know, women are no longer prepared to be wives and liberties uh you see you know women are no longer prepared to be wives and mothers uh men young men are no longer prepared they can't make sandwiches oh my
Starting point is 00:45:13 gosh that is totally it yeah that women aren't wearing ankle-length dresses anymore they are not prepared to be they're not covering their hair in front of other men. Jesus. I would say that like some premarital sex is a good preparation. Yeah, right. No kidding. Right. Do not, do not move in before you look at the place. Like, are you kidding me? Jesus.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Who does it? I mean, like I feel, always feel super bad about the people who didn't. I mean, and I'm not even talking about sex. I'm just saying like live with the person before they moved in with them. Like they didn't, they stayed away from each other until like live separately and like never saw the other person with their, you know, pants off or like sitting there with their like hand down their pants, like scratching their balls, farting on the couch. I'm really talking about male mannerisms here, but you get what I mean? Like, you know, like, like you didn't live with that person ahead of time.
Starting point is 00:46:05 So now you've got a whole bunch of shit you've got to deal with when you are brand new together newlyweds. It's like, that isn't shit you need to deal with. You should move together for a little while, at least, before you get fucking married. Well, otherwise, you look around like, oh, I don't like it, but it's forever. Yeah, that's it.
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Starting point is 00:47:25 You'll get all that stuff. And fucking has never been so fun. This is from Media Matters. This is Fox's Diamond and Silk. And this is like the most nonsensical thing I've read in months. Yeah. Well, let's let's let them say it out loud. OK, so this is from Fox and Friends.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Where essentially she compares opposition to civil rights back in the day to people who mock her signature Green New Deal, the GND. Let's bring in Diamond and Silk, social media stars and Trump supporters and Fox Nation. And token black people. So let's be super clear about what Fox is doing right now. Fox has clearly found two people who have, they are, they're, they're black people that are going to espouse a view that like Fox is just excited to have. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Fox is like, we know they need the diversity opinion. They definitely absolutely do because a majority of people that are of color don't agree with what Fox has to say. And so they have to find those unicorns out in the wild and cage them up and be like, guys, there's unicorns. There are two unicorns. Therefore, there are lots of unicorns. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:48:31 These are representative unicorns. These people represent us. And that's never racist, by the way. That's not super racist to do that. Yeah, I guess you're right. Tokenism is never racist. Ever, ever, ever racist to do that. Here we go....personalities is never, ever, ever, ever, ever racist to do that. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Asian personalities. Hey ladies. Hey, what'd you think of that statement? Well, I heard, listen, you have to realize that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,
Starting point is 00:48:57 she's reckless. She's cute, clueless, and she has a vacuous mindset. Right. First of all, do you think that they get told a little bit to be like, to use a certain vernacular can you be more urban right yeah right that's how they would phrase it to be like certainly you could be a little more urban urban not like carl urban
Starting point is 00:49:17 like urban civil rights have nothing to do with climate change, first of all. And then second of all, her Green New Deal is a Green New scam that we must stay away from. Now, I know that she's worried about climate change, but she needs to talk to Mother Nature. That's right. Because with the earth rotating at a thousand. What is the point of the woman whose job is to say, that's right. She's her Ed McMahon. She's the Lori Baker. She is the Lori Baker. Of Foxes and Silk or Diamonds and Silk. I don't know which one's which. Way from. Now, I know that she's worried about climate change, but she needs to talk to Mother Nature.
Starting point is 00:49:52 That's right. Because with the Earth rotating at 1,000 miles per hour, okay, 365 days of the year, we started to feel... What's crazy is when you step outside, how there's 1,000 mile an hour winds. Everywhere you go, it's 1's thousand mile an hour winds everywhere you go it's a thousand mile an hour winds and then when there's a hurricane they slow down to just a couple hundred it's like it's a tornado it's like a it's like a nice day it's like tad breezy yeah
Starting point is 00:50:16 it's nice out yeah it's the rotation of the earth that's causing the recent climate yeah the recent climate yeah because we haven't always been spinning well obviously not or we wouldn't be seeing these climate changes you're right you're not i just didn't i didn't get it yeah climate changing a little bit but not to the tune where we have to dismantle everything and start the earth back over again what okay turn earth off and turn it on again let's dismantle the entire earth and then put it all back together again. Even if we're talking about just like things about the economy,
Starting point is 00:50:51 like the only thing that's going to cause catastrophic climate change is that lighting that straw man on fire. Are you kidding me? You have to start all over again. All you have to do is just like change some of the things you're doing to be more
Starting point is 00:51:05 green. You know, a couple of places I was looking it up. There's a bunch of like West Western European nations that are really close to a hundred percent energy efficient right now with solar panels, wind Iceland's practically 100% right now. They do a lot of geothermal there and they're just like almost 100% clean energy. Just energy independent. Clean energy. Clean energy. When you have the resources to do it, it's not hard. Right. And in fact, it could create jobs. It could be an economy builder. They were saying that there's trillions of dollars to be made in this market. It could be an economy builder. But the problem is is is that the wrong people are getting rich
Starting point is 00:51:45 so we're trying to stop it the wrong people are getting rich so they're gone trying to get dip shits like this to be like we gotta tear it all down and put it all back again you're like no that's not how any of this works but the fucking the companies that are that that want this to make sure to want to make sure that this doesn't go through they're gonna put out all these talking points to make it seem like it's big deal. Yeah. Like if you got rich on oil,
Starting point is 00:52:09 you want more oil. You want to keep the oil. Oil needs to be a valued commodity. I want to keep that shit. That's just like, well, yeah, fucking of course.
Starting point is 00:52:17 But like we need to be done with that shit. And the green new deal isn't suggesting we dismantle the economy. The suggestion is that we shift the economy to a different focus. Yeah. And like, it's your point. It's like, yeah, all right, different people are going to get rich. But like, hear us out. Other people will still get rich.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Yeah. This is still the world. There's still money to be made. What if my mom is the DA and won't prosecute? Can I write? No, you cannot. What if she's drunk and has a slight reputation and no one's going to believe her? That ain't allowed.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Okay. The girl said yes to me the other day, but it was about something else. No. What if the girl said yes, but then she changes her mind out of nowhere, like a crazy person? You got to stop. No, you got to stop! Whoa! So this is Dave,
Starting point is 00:53:07 coach, doc coach, not a coach, Dub and Meyer. He's questioning the extent of the Holocaust. This is from Right Wing Watch. All right, here we go. Oh, Tom.
Starting point is 00:53:18 I know, man. I know. Fuck. Here we go. This is what blew me away. The general subdivision of religions of the world is distributed very nearly in the following proportions. 1900, these are the total Christians. Okay, Christians.
Starting point is 00:53:39 405 million Christians in the world. Okay, I want to point out too, just really quickly that all these numbers add up to 1.3 billion, one point, almost 1.4 billion, 1.4 billion people. So I'm just curious what the population of the world was in 1900. So the information that he's citing, by the way,
Starting point is 00:54:00 is it just, and it's just from a book, like a Bible, right? He's got a Bible that has this information in it it's an it's an old book yeah 1.6 billion people in the world yeah the problem is these numbers aren't accurate it's like it's like well i got an old farmer's almanac yeah and my old farmer's almanac says that on march 7th 1904 it's gonna rain and then you compare that with what happened on that day in actual history.
Starting point is 00:54:27 You're like, well, no, I mean, history's wrong because the almanac said it was going to be. Yeah. Jews, 7,000 or 7,500,000. Muslims, Mohammedans, 160,000. Oh my God. You could tell back then, they're just like, they didn't know't know they're like we don't really
Starting point is 00:54:46 know a lot about this religion. They're called Mohammedans. Mohammedans. Mohammedans. Mohammedans. Okay I had to finish I'm sorry. Are you done? I am. I couldn't help myself. I love that he's like also like what he's referring to is it's just like i got a page out of an old book yeah it's i looked at this old book every old book is true i will
Starting point is 00:55:17 say this guy writes that yeah this is like his whole religion like every old book is true we need to make that shirt we need to make that t-shirt every old book is true. We need to make that shirt. We need to make that t-shirt. Every old book is true. And then have a picture of Moby Dick. The older book, the truer the words. Oh, jeez. 50 million. Buddhists, 350 million.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Pagans, 200 million. Other Asiatic religions. What does that mean? Other other asiatic religions what does that mean other asiatic religions you know those other taoists and hindus yeah right 257 500 but see 257 500 what did he just say did he say say dollars? Yeah, he did. $257,500. But see. $500,000. $257,500. That's how much those religions, those are expensive.
Starting point is 00:56:15 They're crazy rich Asians. Crazy rich Asiatic religions. But see, you just missed the most unbelievable statistic. And I can already tell you what it is because we know we know it's about the Holocaust. He's going to say, isn't it crazy that 7.5 million Jews were in 1900 and we killed 6 million of them? That's what he's going to say, right? Is that what he's going to say? Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:39 So like to Dave's point, like, yeah, even like, first of all, I don't know what the source is, and I don't have any reason to think it's accurate, and I have every reason to think that it's not accurate. Oh, yeah, every to think it is. And I have every reason to think that the final number is inaccurate, so I think that the numbers you use to add up to get to the final number that are not accurate, but also, like, it's a page torn out of a book from
Starting point is 00:57:00 like 1900. Well, the fucking Holocaust was in the 1940s. And the population growth to get up there. They said that the thing I read said there was nine and a half million Jews in the world at that time.
Starting point is 00:57:15 So we almost got them. Yeah, right. Right? You know, and that's the other thing too is that that's the reason, you know, six million people being murdered
Starting point is 00:57:23 is a horrible reason, but trying to and almost eradicated in them is the is one of the other reasons we remember it. Right. One of the other reasons that makes it so horrible. Right. Is the fact that we tried to and almost did eradicate them. Yes. So that's why it's such so horrible. So when you're just like, well, it doesn't make any sense there, you know, there'll only be 1.5 million if there was only, they only never reproduced from 1900, et cetera. That's literally why it's a Holocaust. Yeah. Right. And not like a bad day. Yeah. Well, and you know, it's like I said, killing 6 million people is a horror, but look at how many people in Russia died.
Starting point is 00:58:02 Right. In that war. Right. Look at how many people fighting, look at how many people in Russia died in that war, right? Look at how many people fighting. Look at how many people died in Russia just with the Holodomor. Look at how many people died in China with the starvation there. Look at how many people died there. And so, you know, yeah, those are horrors. But the reason why we always come back to this one is because this was a way to fucking extinguish an entire group of people from the planet. On an
Starting point is 00:58:29 intentional basis. Yeah. On a singled out, like laser focused. Yeah. And in a really short amount of time, like a spectacularly murderous short amount of time. Yeah. The most unbelievable statistic and I'm not going to get into the depth about it because you're going to call me names.
Starting point is 00:58:46 In 1900, there were 7,500,000 Jews in the world. In 1900, 7 million. Does he not know that 1900 is 42 years before the war? Do you not realize it's 41? Because 41 years is a long time, especially with the type of population growth we had in the 20th century. 41 years is a long time. And I just to say like,
Starting point is 00:59:13 I mean, just to think about it out loud, even just, I mean, I just listened. I was like, when I would listen to it earlier, I was like,
Starting point is 00:59:18 well, of course. Yeah. No, that makes perfect sense. Yeah. But like, you look at this,
Starting point is 00:59:23 it's like, well, all right, well, you know that, you know, when world war two was, like, I'm perfect sense. Yeah. But like, you look at this, it's like, well, all right, well, you know that, you know, when World War II was. Yeah. Like, I'm wondering what parties confused that.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Right. Does he think that World War II or that the Holocaust or that the rise of, we just always were at seven and a half million Jews. And then they just never fucked after that. We never had any of those. Okay, guys, we had seven and a half million. 500,000 Jews in the world. This ain't forged.
Starting point is 00:59:43 This isn't, uh,'t, what's that thing? Photoshopped. Folks, 7 million. It didn't even need to be. What's that thing? Who knows? What are the kids using to change the holograms or whatever? 500,000 Jews in the world.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Go back, Connor. He's got an Ian. Ian right now is rolling over in his grave. I killed Ian. Yeah. We're going to need a new Ian. He's Jewish. Cause here it is.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Can somebody explain to me how 6 million of them died in Germany? Yeah. The ruthlessness. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Like it's like, do you want me to explain the motivations of the Holocaust?
Starting point is 01:00:28 They elected someone like Trump. That's all I'm going to say. I'll let you figure the rest out. What I'm going to do is I'm going to cast a shadow of doubt on the Holocaust because, uh, well, like so many of my brethren,
Starting point is 01:00:42 I'm incredibly anti-Semitic. Yeah. Like what purpose does this serve right I mean like I get it's all bullshit right but like like who cares what do you get out of it as an anti-Semite to deny the Holocaust
Starting point is 01:00:56 like what do you like you can still hate the Jews yeah couldn't you just be like yeah bummer that you didn't get them all like if you're a horrible if you're a bad person like what do you be like, man, we came close. You know, almost finished that race. Like, whatever horrible shit. Think if he had a full mustache, what he'd have done.
Starting point is 01:01:12 I give you my word. He's going to fix the dust on the street. I give you my word. He's going to fix it. I give you my word. He's going to be dead common. He's so smart. He's going to do it all in one week. He would not only end the Dust Bowl and heal the economy, but he would cure acne and car sickness as well.
Starting point is 01:01:44 So we haven't talked about Trump the entire show, Tom. I know. And I tried to make sure that we stayed away, veered away from those Trump stories we've been talking about for so long, but this is something you just, when you stop,
Starting point is 01:01:59 if you think about it for a minute, you're like, but why though? But why though? Like, why the fuck would we fucking yeet a bomb out into the middle of nowhere to blow up a fucking hurricane? I don't even get it. So there are stories circulating, which I think he's denied at this point. He has.
Starting point is 01:02:21 He has denied it. So we got to be honest. He said he didn't do it, but other people have said that he has there have been multiple reports that in multiple meetings that trump has expressed a curiosity shall we say i guess as to whether or not nuking a hurricane wouldn't just blow the hurricane apart yeah and then we wouldn't so the hurricanes form in the atlantic right and so we would before they made their way over yonder what we would do is fly over them and then drop a bomb into the eye of the hurricane so one person says it's a nuke and then there's a lot there's some sort of actual and i want to say let me let me read what it says
Starting point is 01:03:05 because they say it down here at the bottom it says the nsc memo described a second such convention in 2017 according to axios but a source briefed on it told the news outlet that it did not include the words nuclear so it wasn't well you can't bomb the weather yeah like what like hurricanes are so like in terms of like what wins in a fight yeah the amount of energy and power in a hurricane is so vast as to be like impossible to understand like by comparison to one of those like moab bombs or something along those lines you can't bomb the weather it's also funny because it's like yeah but like why does a hurricane start well the ocean gets warm i don't know maybe dropping a nuclear bomb and if it doesn't work don't you have a nuclear hurricane? Well, yeah. And I mean, like, don't you still have fallout?
Starting point is 01:04:07 Right. And then, you know, the currents that are currently bringing that thing to the American shores. Why would you fall? We're just like, yeah, no, what we want to do is we want to bring all that fallout over here. That makes sense. Bad news, sir. It didn't work. And the hurricane is still headed for Florida.
Starting point is 01:04:23 But now it is literally a nuclear hurricane well and you know what he'd do at that point is trump would pull off his human mask revealing his lizard face and tell them to use the weather gun yeah i told you use the weather gun to start out with i didn't say use nuclear weapons i said weather gun i clearly said it but i have a forked tongue so sometimes it comes out a little weird. So I said, it's like a guy with a period. He's got like a,
Starting point is 01:04:48 like a guy with one of those big piercings that can. My parcel tongue came out during it. Like this is like, do you remember back like years ago, Cecil, when the hillbillies were shooting at the hurricane that was coming? I do remember that. They were aiming at the, and they were saying do remember that remember they were aiming at the and they were saying go away you hurricane you get here you go on get
Starting point is 01:05:09 shooting their guns at the hurricane you go on and get now it's like trump is the same thing you know he just has a bigger gun they should have done those hillbillies should have done they should have made themselves bigger and tried to scare it away. Like lift your hands up like a bear where you just like, it's like you see a mountain lion and you have to like straighten up and hold your hands over your head and they should have bagged some pots
Starting point is 01:05:36 together to scare the hurricane away. That's what they should have done. Got their hound dog to chase it. We're all just like neck flap lizards. That's all we are. We just hold them like. And then we try to scare the hurricane away.
Starting point is 01:05:53 That's how it works. Bomb the hurricane. You know, at this point, though. We have an idiot in chief. But at this point, though, does it matter if you bomb the hurricane? Bomb the rainforest who cares whatever nobody cares i want to thank all our patrons of course we want to thank all our patrons. Of course, we want to thank our newest patrons,
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Starting point is 01:08:07 It's an image and this image is highly photoshopped all the time. It's a pretty funny image. It's about glory hole etiquette. We're going to post it on this week's show notes. This is episode 485. While back, we talked, Joe sends us a message and says a while back you guys were basically saying um we're you know 18 months ago they asked what about you know is trump is trump's way of doing politics the new sort of normal is that what's going to be the new norm and at the time we
Starting point is 01:08:40 thought trump would be a one-off what do we think think about it today? I will say this. I do, I still think Trump might be a one-off. And I think the reason why is because we have, I have not seen a ton of people like Trump jump into the political sphere since Trump. It's not that I can point to five Trump-like politicians. There still is only a Trump and we've had a very big election cycle once so far. So it's not like, do you remember when the Tea Party got big?
Starting point is 01:09:08 It's not like there was a big like flush of these Trumpian people. Right. It's, they're all still the same old politician. I don't think anybody has been following very much in his footsteps, except for other countries have their shitty, awful leaders that seem very similar. But nobody in our political sphere, awful leaders that seem very similar. But nobody in our political sphere, at least that's in my radar, has really done this. I'm happy to be corrected on this, but it's not anything that I've noticed.
Starting point is 01:09:36 It kind of depends on what we call Trumpian. But if we're talking about hard right, there's plenty of hard right. But if we're talking about those things that makes Trump really unique in terms of the force of personality, I think this is a flash in the pan is not the right word to say, but I think this is a one-off. Yeah. We got a message from Shane and Shane sent in a video about Malort. And if you are familiar, unfamiliar with what Malort is, this is a video. It's a, it's a on-air commercial.
Starting point is 01:10:04 I think it's a joke video that someone made pretending to be part of the Malort is. This is a video. It's a, it's a on-air commercial. I think it's a joke video that someone made pretending to be part of the Malort group, but, uh, but this is a Malort commercial and, uh, and we're going to post it on this week's show notes, but Malort is genuinely the foulest liquor I've ever had in my life. I can't think of anything. I've had like straight moonshine. You even drank that stuff. That's supposed to taste like a wet dog, which is worse. Malort of the wet dog. Malort. I've, I've had, I've had whiskey. I've had the head, heart and tail of whiskey. The head is poisonous. That's better than Malort. I've had the fusel oils at the end. Yeah. The tail that's better than Malort. Yeah. Malort is, it tastes so bad. Malort is the worst shocking it's a shocking
Starting point is 01:10:45 drink it's a it's a bitter it's i think it's probably made for something else i don't know what washing cars or something i don't know but it's it's a chicago made liquor yeah and it's made here and it's it's been something that has been on my radar for many years i've had two shots of malort in my life and that is plenty i had it one time at a dive bar in chicago and it was and i got a pretty i got a pretty like rough palate you know like i can put some like the only thing so far i've not been able to get down is that liquor that licorice yeah and that's because that is actually poisonous yeah right yeah like malort is it's it shocks the system it's so bitter it's so bitter. It's so bitter. It's astonishing.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Like you could put in a spritzer bottle and like spray bears in the face with it. Like it's, it's a, I think it would be an effective bear spray or shark. They're using it in Hong Kong on those protesters right now. Got an image. This is a monopoly monopoly monopoly card image about about the
Starting point is 01:11:47 the Trump thing buying Greenland and so we're going to put it on this week's show notes and Tom I guess that they're saying that the missiles you were talking about last time 3,500 miles an hour not 35,000 miles an hour
Starting point is 01:12:00 that's my stupidity so I was multiplying 700 times 5 and for some reason I just added a zero. So oops. Sorry, guys. Someone mentions that there used to be a way to get a bunch of different episodes
Starting point is 01:12:13 on a dropdown on the old website. I still have to add that in. It's a dropdown for categories and I categorize every, whatever, you don't care. But any case, I've got to put that in there. I haven't yet.
Starting point is 01:12:24 I've got to find a place for it on the homepage, but when it's there, I'll let you know, Stefan. You're right. It's a lot easier to find very old episodes this way. So I'll make sure it goes back into the website, but I haven't had an opportunity to put it back in yet. Got a message from Bryce Blankenagle, Message from Bryce Blankenagle, the naked Mormon. And he says, he was talking about, he's talking about episode 484 when we're talking about outrage fatigue from Trump. And he was saying that he also disagrees with people
Starting point is 01:12:55 who think that you can't pay attention to multiple things at one time. And he brings up an idea. He says, the idea of buying Greenland was stupid and insulting, but why would Trump want to do it in the first place? He says, he's going to postulate that it's going to become a very strategic location when the Arctic Circle is passable by ship year round, and it would not be insane for him to buy it with World War III on the horizon.
Starting point is 01:13:20 That's a great dystopian view you have there. fit in right with us bryce if you're ever in chicago send us a message we'd love to have you back bryce this week something happened with opioids i don't know if you saw the the ruling 500 what was it 500 million well there were a couple there's a 500 million dollar uh lawsuit or settlement against johnson and johnson but then you see the three billion dollar purdue thing. And the Sackler family has to give up ownership of Purdue Pharma. Oh my. $3 billion, a Sackler family. It's on the table.
Starting point is 01:13:51 So I don't think they've accepted the settlement yet. But the settlement is you don't control Purdue Pharma anymore. You walk away and you owe us $3 billion. Holy shit. That's the big one, dude. That's a lot. The Johnson and Johnson one is a fucking pittance and it's an insult and their stock price went up significantly.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Stock price went up because they thought it was going to be worse. They thought it was going to be worse than it actually was. I read something that they may have made more than the fine on their stock price. But I don't know that that's true. But still, that's insane.
Starting point is 01:14:24 It's got to be interesting for the people out there that are pro-legalization of opioids, but also anti-huge corporation. They got to be like that guy. They got to be like that guy sweating and there's those two boys. They don't know what to do about it. But we got another interesting message here.
Starting point is 01:14:40 There's supervised consumption sites in Calgary and the link by Bryce here that was sent to us. And we'll put this link on this week's show notes, but it says basically they work really well. 4,300 overdoses and zero deaths. So that's amazing. Yeah, that's, you know, the overdoses probably come, a lot of them from the fentanyl that gets mixed in. And, you know, if you're out in the street, you're a cadaver. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:04 You know, you don't have it, but if the street, you're a cadaver. Right. You know, you don't have it. But if it's supervised and there's someone there and they can help you, they're there to help you. Think about any responsible way. I mean, honestly, like if you're going to like, see, so if we were going to just like fucking get hammered. Yeah. Which is something I haven't done since I was younger.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Like just be like, let's just get drunk to get drunk. Right. It would be a good idea to have your buddy with you like to dd right so you it is and like a lot of drug consumption it's like i'm gonna have somebody to babysit me right like i'm gonna i'm gonna fucking drop acid but like i'm going to and you're going to but you're not right because like we kind of know that like it's a smart thing to do to have some somebody there yeah like one of the problems like with opioids is that they're so stigmatized and they were so incredibly addictive.
Starting point is 01:15:49 You can't really ask somebody to like babysit you all the time, but it's a good idea. It's a responsible, like responsible drug use is kind of like, yeah. All right. There's ways to do this to mitigate the danger to us. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Yeah. And if it's smart and if it's working, yeah, then let's do it. Let's do it. Stop stigmatizing it so much that we can't to us. Yeah. Yeah. And if it's smart and if it's working. Yeah. Then let's do it. Let's do it. Stop stigmatizing it so much that we can't help people. Yeah. So we want you to plan your calendars.
Starting point is 01:16:12 We mentioned it on the live stream last time. We want you to plan on your calendars. We're going to be doing another full long live stream, a full episode live stream on the 8th, the Sunday, the 8th. We hope we're pretty sure 2 PM on the 8th, the Sunday, the 8th. We hope, we're pretty sure, 2 p.m. on the 8th. We will definitely confirm this via social media.
Starting point is 01:16:31 So check our social media, Facebook, Twitter, to make sure. But we should be on the air with a live stream, like we say, a full episode live stream on the 8th. So we'd love to have you join us. And that will be, like we say, a full episode and it'll be a lot of fun and we'll be doing something. I don't know what, maybe we'll eat something or I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:51 We had such a great time eating the melon cookies. That was so good. So great. So anyway, but if you missed the live stream, there's some really funny moments in the last live stream. So check it out on YouTube or Facebook or Twitter, wherever you can find our old videos. We did it this last week and we had a great time. but like we say, set your calendars for the 8th.
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