Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 496: Thou Shalt Not Bump Stock

Episode Date: November 11, 2019

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It's skeptical, it's political. And there is no welcome at this episode 496. And you know what, Cecil? What's up? Sometimes I'm just going to not show up. Just like John Bolton and half of the other people that have been subpoenaed. Subpoenaed. Okay, boomer. Because how fucking crazy is it that we're just like at a place where Congress is like, you got to show up to the thing. And people are just like, nah, pass. Hard pass. I'm cool. You know what I was going to do instead?

Not that. I was going to not show up. I was going to do something else. Here's the thing. I haven't done anything wrong. No one I know has done anything wrong. I have nothing to hide. I don't want to testify.

Did you see? Did you see? did you see, my favorite was Lindsey Graham this week. Oh. And he was like, he's like, y'all need to release that transcript. And they're like,

did you read the transcript? He's like, I will not read that transcript. He's like, you are a fucking idiot. He's the same guy who this same week too, he said, he's like,

look, I just think that our, there is no quid pro quo. And the reason I know that is that our policy in the Ukraine is too incoherent. He really said that. That's probably true, though.

The argument is that, look, it's not that we're corrupt, it's that we're so incompetent we can't even be corrupt. We're not sure. Last week I think we gave them a bag of cats. I have no idea, but I think. I read the article and I was like, do you hear you? It's amazing.

It's like, no, no, no. Here's the thing. Our president's too incoherent to have established a quid pro quo. Oh, I know. That was the argument that Mueller made, though, too. Right.

Was that they're just too fucking bad at it. Like, you're just too bad at it. That's why it didn't work that way. But you would have, if you were smart enough, you would have been able to and you would have done it.

Right. But you're just too fucking stupid. We have an administration that's just like, you're not good enough to be bad. Yeah. And that's how bad you are.

That's how it works. If that's the genuine defense being mustered, it's, because it's, I think it's very telling that the defense is not, didn't happen.

Yeah. The defense is not like, Oh, no. Yeah, no, it's not that. No,

it's, it's, I'm bad. I'm, I'm bad at it. Yeah. Right. Did you see Kentucky's governor

and Kentucky lost? Right. So the governor lost and then, but he's contesting it or whatever. And then the Virginia state Senate.

Yeah, flipped. Flipped. For the first time in a long time too. The state and the house in Virginia are both blue for the first time in a generation.

Yeah, in a long time. What's crazy about the Kentucky thing is like all the precincts are reporting. There's about a 5,000 point lead. It's $5,000. Or $5,000.

$5,000. It doesn't matter. Whatever. We don't know. We're buying votes down there. It's $5,000, yeah. Or $5,000, $5,000. It doesn't matter. Whatever, we don't know. We're buying votes down there. And the Republican incumbent is like, I'm not going to concede. I'm going to contest because if it goes to a contest,

then the race is decided by the Republican-controlled House and Senate. That's good. So he'll basically just be like, I'm going to go ahead and contest this election and then that election will get kicked over to my totally impartial panel of judges who I'm golfing with right now. Wow. So that it is entirely reasonable. And Bernie Sanders was tweeting about this. It's entirely reasonable that what might happen in Kentucky is the voters will vote a Democratic

governor in and he'll lose anyway, because the Republicans will just be like, well, not it. No, no, and no, I'm busy. Do you see the gone fishing sign on my door, young man? Well, all right. But y'all didn't count the coon dog votes. You can't say that, Tom. My raccoon dog

votes, alright? That is what I meant to have said. So, I want to talk real quick, though, about that. My feed this week has been blowing up with OK Boomer, which I love very much. I love, absolutely adore. And so many

people are calling it ageist. And I was like, wait, weren't you dismissing the millennials forever in the exact same way by saying millennials this? And now they're saying, okay, boomer. Basically doing the exact same thing to you that you were doing to them, dismissing them. And that's ageist. Well, yeah, but I think what you're missing, Cecil, is the way ageism works is if it's you

doing it. Yeah, if it's you and you feel bad about it. Then it's not ageist. Yeah. Right, yeah. So, if I'm the one doing it, it's not ageist. Yeah, I love it so much. It's ridiculous. I love it so much. I love it so much. I love it so much. It's my favorite. It's my favorite new thing to just wave a hand and be like, okay, boomer.

Okay, boomer. It's so dismissive. It's so dismissive and amazing. And it's absolutely perfect. And it reminds me of the whatever. I don't even remember the company that did the toxic masculinity ad. Gillette. And yeah, I didn't even remember. It turns out I didn masculinity ad. Gillette. And yeah, I didn't even remember.

It turns out I didn't remember, but yeah, it was Gillette. The toxic masculinity ad and everybody, all these people are just like throwing their hands up. Like, are you saying some men can be bad? And some of our practices that we go through and rituals that we go through in our regular life can be bad. What are you saying? You're like, yeah, yeah, that's what we're saying.

I'm not saying you're bad. Right. And I'm not saying that all men are bad. Not all men, guys. Not all men. Can we talk about that for this? It's like, well, I don't do that. It's like, well, then you're not the subject of it.

Right. It's like, I'm not OK boomering you. When I drove to the studio there were signs that were like don't drink and drive and i'm like well i wasn't like offended well i'm not drinking and drive okay then you know what that's not like i get it yeah it's fine yeah like it's like well i don't beat my wife well then good but you have to know that some people do. You do recognize that, right? Like, just, then you're the good example. It's okay to be the good example.

And this is exactly how it is with the OK Boomer thing. Because it's like, you know, there's a lot of boomers out there. I actually hang out with a few boomers that I really think, smart guys, really, really far they're left than I am. These guys are, these guys are awesome. And, and I'm not,

when somebody says, okay, boomer, they're not saying it to them. Right. They're not saying it to those guys. They're saying it to the guys that are like, Climber Chain's a myth.

And you're just like, yeah, okay, boomer. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm saying it to.

It's a way to be like, your attitudes are outdated. Yeah. Update. Like the fucking Ram needs an update, buddy. What you need to do is go download it and then reinstall. That's what you need to do. It's so funny too because like ageism only works if it's like upward.

Yeah. You're ageist against like folks that are older than you. Yeah. But ageism is just like, well, yeah, I mean, young people are shitty. Like, wait, if you're old, you know that young people are shitty. And you know that

because you wish you were them. And we all, because you wake up and you're like, my knees hurt. I don't like young people all of a sudden. Everything hurts.

Right? And I'm dying. Right. I'm slowly dying every day. You know, I start to hate young people when I'm suddenly not one of the young people

yeah it turns out oh my god my hip god damn whatever the next generation is Xeniel what is the next one

what's the new one I don't even know yeah I think it's Xeniel Xeniel because we're just fucking lazy about it

we don't we don't care we don't care about them they're not going to be around anyways. It doesn't matter. They're not going to be around when they matter. Yeah. And they're never going to matter because the world's going to add up before that happens.

He's right. We don't need a whistleblower. We need a building full of whistleblowers. Okay. Whistles. I want this place to be honest. When you see something wrong, I want... There you go.

I want you to report it. I want you to... Exactly. Just like that. I want this place to be honest. When you see something wrong, I want, there you go. I want you to report it. I want you to, exactly, just like that. I want us to police ourselves. Let's wait till something actually happens. Okay, good, fine. All right. So this story comes from ABC News. Some GOP senators buck President Trump,

ran Paul on calls to release whistleblower's identity. And I wanted to talk about this, Cecil, because there's a handful of folks in Congress right now who are making a big stink, and the president, of course, making a big stink, like, we got to know who the whistleblower is. We got to know who he is, or we don't have transparency to the process. And it's like, well, okay, first of all, we're in sort of the grand jury phase of this investigation. So there is no transparency to the grand jury portion of any process, right? So that's all a fucking straw man.

It's a red herring, like pay no attention to the bullshit behind the mirror. But like, this isn't how whistleblowing works. Right. Like we have a system that protects, so we have whistleblower protections, legal protections for whistleblowers. And we have that because it's like

fucking vital to our democracy, right? Yeah. To not like expose people who are exposing those in power. Sure. Because if you don't, then all, the people in power can do literally whatever they want because they have no fear of repercussions. There's no check and balance to the system. Nothing whatsoever.

No one can say anything about anybody in power that's true or not true. It doesn't matter because there won't be any investigation because they could just fucking, they'll know who you are and nobody will want to do it

because then they'll be like, well, fuck, they know who I am now and I can get fired or whatever it is. Right. Yeah. And it's like, it's bullshit that it's actually anonymous. Like that's another like misstep.

It's not. It's not anonymous. It's not. And you know who this guy is. It's just not public. Yeah. There's not. It's not anonymous. It's not, and you know who this guy is. It's just not public. Yeah. There's a difference between something being anonymous, meaning like, it's just unknown to everybody involved.

It's not anonymous. It's not QAnon who sent this stuff in. Right. The whistleblower is a known quantity. Sure. That is a person who's written things. The people who have the security clearance to know this information know this information.

It's just that I don't know it. Sure. Because like schmucks send death threats and like weird bombs from Florida, like full of like sawdust and like lemming eggs or whatever that guy had. Weirdo. Jesus. Shooting synthol into his arms. Fucking crazy fucker. Jesus.

I love that that guy had like the crazy person van like he drove around. Oh, I know. He drove around in the van that had all the stickers on it. They're just like, I'm just going to stay back here. You know what? I need a space cushion. Space cushion is good today. I'm just going to stay back here. The guy you think is crazy drove the crazy

mobile. He really did. It's the proof in the pudding. It's absolutely. You're driving along and you see that thing and you're like, oh, hang on, I'm going to take a picture of this and send it to my wife. Like, click.

Yeah, exactly. It's the guy, Sony. And it's like, oh, shock of shocks, that's the guy that sent mail bombs out. What do you think that guy was doing

with his time? You think he's like sitting at home watching reruns of Seinfeld? He's putting stickers on his van. That's what he's doing all the time

he's ordering them online and placing them very carefully next to the other sticker I got some room I got a 13x9 space oh man look at me

it's like fuck it I'm playing Tetris on this this happens so often today you just want to turn to the Republicans and be like

you don't want this what you're saying right now is my guy's cool that's why we should have the whistle know who the whistleblower is but you don't want this. What you're saying right now is, my guy's cool. That's why we should have the whistle, we'll know who the whistleblower is. But you don't want this. Trust me, you don't want this

to be the fucking precedent where we get to know who the whistleblower is because you're the president. You don't want that. You want somebody to be able to come forward on a democratic president that's doing shady shit. Trust me, you definitely want that.

And don't make this a precedent. Don't make this something that is, you know, something that can happen in the future where we just don't give a fuck. Where people clearly know you can get away with it, right? You know, there's always gotta be penalties for these things or people just keep pushing the boundaries.

That's what's been happening with Trump the whole time. He's been, they've been saying, no, there's dozens of people basically in contempt to Congress and it doesn't matter. Like they're showing you that it doesn't matter. There's dozens of people basically in contempt of Congress and it doesn't matter. Like they're showing you that it doesn't matter. There's no teeth here. There's no teeth in any of these policies. They don't care. They'll just be like, well, fuck you. I don't care. I'll just do what I want. Trump even moved to a fucking other state recently. He just fucking noped out of fucking NYC. He's like, sorry, I'm going to Miami. Yeah. He's like tax burden in New York's

too high. He fucking noped out of it. I'm not there anymore. Yeah. Lifelong New Yorker. Absolutely. So, you know, like, like the thing is, is like, if you take the pressure off

and you just say that there's no teeth in this and whatsoever, and they release the whistleblower's name and there's no repercussions for that, like,

they were saying something about like, you know, like maybe if someone tweets it out or they were saying something about Don Jr. saying more information about him than he should have and things. If they tweet it out or say something like that,

there should be an absolute penalty for that. There should be a huge penalty. Absolutely a penalty for that. They shouldn't walk away with nothing. But every time that something has happened, they're showing that there's huge gaps in our system. People just presume that there was something there that could stop people, and there isn't anything.

Well, here's what I want to know from the people that are like, small government, right wing. Honestly, if this doesn't bother you, doesn't that necessarily mean that you are in favor of more autocratic governance. Right, right. Like, isn't the bedrock of democracy is that there's a transparency that is beholden to the people? And that when the legislative body says, hey, you have to show up and we have questions, and then it's up to us to decide how we feel about the answers to those questions. But circumventing the process, like you said, it establishes a precedent that you're not going to want when it's your turn. No, you don't want it when it's your turn.

And it also establishes a precedent that says, well, whoever's in power just gets more power. Every year, we do this power creep thing. We are at a place where more and more the executive branch is becoming this kingdom. And the power that is the check and balance system that's really like the bedrock of this democracy, along with like the transparency aspect, those things are not only becoming less important,

they're becoming less valued. Like people don't like them. All they're just like, fuck it. I don't care about that as long as I'm winning. When I'm winning, I don't need transparency in government. I don't care about that as a principle

that makes the government beholden to me. As long as I get what I want. It's so dangerous. I don't want the things I want if I get them the wrong way. Sure. Not because I don't want them. Right. I still want those things.

I'll still be mad if I don't get them. I still think the world would be better if I get policies that match my worldview. Of course, I think that. But what I don't want to do is to break the country in order to get those things. I don't want to break the system that's supposed to balance itself out in order to get Medicare for all. Somehow get progress, somehow progress forward. And yeah, it feels like now that there's this constant pressure to just to do whatever it is you want to do as long as your side's in there. I have a question. I mean it seriously.

Would you accept a perfectly benign dictator if you knew that all of their policies were going to align with your worldview exactly? Absolutely not. I wouldn't either. Absolutely not. I wouldn't either. Absolutely not. I would not accept a perfectly benign dictator whose policies perfectly lined up. No, it was me. It was me. I mean, perfectly aligned would be me, right?

Me. No, I wouldn't want it. Even if it was a lifetime appointment, even if I could guarantee that for the entirety of my life, that only the things I want to have happen will happen. I would not accept that because it's not like, we have a system that's supposed to continue forward. Yeah. And I have no guarantee that the next dictator will not be benign.

Right. Right. And it's the same principle. Like if you break the democracy, then we don't get to thump our chest anymore and talk about being a free nation. We get to be an autocratic nation. Yeah. And I don't think we actually want that. No. But we're doing things't think we actually want that. No.

But we're doing things that demonstrate that we want that. When I say, don't use we, because it clearly, when you see Rand Paul up there standing there with the president, he doesn't like whistleblowers because he's too busy blowing something else up there. But I'll tell you what, he's up on that stage. He's one of those people who's

part of that giving the president an autocratic power. Isn't he supposed to be a libertarian? I thought so. But there's so many of these guys that are willing to allow Trump to do literally whatever he wants as long as they get, he gets the things that they want done. They're willing to let him do whatever he wants. And all the evangelicals jump on board with that too. I know. And so it's, it's really crazy to me, but, but you can't say we don't want a dictator because I think that some of these people genuinely do. They want a Christian dictator. I think they do. That's what they want. One day I was painting this birdhouse. I helped build. You missed a spot right up there. Mr. McGregor spilled paint on me. I mean,

really spilled paint all over me and my clothes. Just take off your clothes. So I did. I had paint all over me. So it made sense. Now I'm going to take a picture to remember the day we spilled the paint. This story comes from AP News. Minnesota Bishop defends conduct in sexual abuse case.

So this story was crazy. So the defense here is basically like, look, the victim wanted to remain completely anonymous. And since the victim wanted to remain completely anonymous, we just basically didn't act at all. And by not acting at all,

we kept the person who was the perpetrator of the sexual abuse in contact with minor children. And his defense is like, well, if we didn't do that, we'd be sort of de facto acknowledging the abuse, which somehow, something, something, the anonymity of the victim. I literally can't draw that line. I read the story four times. And I was like, I don't get it. Like, I genuinely don't get the leaps of logic. And I'm glad that the AP printed this story this way because it's so confusing to read. You're like, wait, but I don't understand why you didn't just say something. And this guy who got molested wanted to become a deacon.

Yeah, I know. And that like, and then, and then eventually wind up settling with the church outside of court. Cause you know, that's what And then eventually wind up settling with the church outside of court, because that's what happens in all of these cases, is the church doesn't want any of this stuff to get out. And so- I didn't write a check. I didn't write a check. I didn't write a check. Exactly. And so that's what they did. And this is another example of a priest allowing, basically allowing, knowing about it, knowing that it's happening and allowing it to happen. Facilitating it almost. It's not, I don't even know if it's almost, it's like.

Oh no, yeah, you're right. Facilitating. Like facilitating. There's a time and a place where it's, you're trying to make sure this reoccurs. Yeah. There is a depraved indifference. Yeah.

To the suffering of other people. Either that or it's malicious. It's either malicious or it's, like you said, depraved indifference. Those are your two options. Neither are good. No is a little better than the other because one of them presumes that you're just like, no, I like it when he fucks kids. this guy from working with kids because somehow the anonymity of the victim would be compromised. And I thought like, well, you certainly can. It's a big organization. You just give them a different job

and you pull him aside and you say, Joe, you are fired. You fuck kids. We're a terrible place. So you're not even fired. I love that conversation you started with him like, Joe, sit down for a second. I don't know how to say this other than you fuck kids.

Crazily, this does not disqualify you. I know, right? Like, it's not like, give me the collar. It's not badge and gun. Right. It's not like all those curmudgeonly old fucks in all those movies that are like, give me a badge and your gun. You know what?

I'll find him even without the badge and the gun, Johnson. You're a wisecracking, wisecracking, Johnson. Get out of my office. We got no room for room cops in this organization. There's none of that. Nobody walks up and snatches his collar and then takes his cassock off and kicks him in the ass and shoots him on the street

nobody does that why don't you do that like holy shit just take it away from him and then fucking whack his dick with a ruler

on the way out and be like whack and be like never use that again you're not allowed to touch it and we're fucking calling the cops.

Fuck you. It's the easiest problem to not have. Like, are these guys that bad? I know you're religious. So I know like problem solving and critical thinking is not like in your belly. Yeah, right, right, right. But you're really telling me you can't get like three of these guys and be

like, all right, what do we do with the kid fuckers? And somebody's like, I want to know if we don't want to publish the name of the victim on a billboard, I guess nothing. Is there any children's school that needs a teacher?

I don't know. Put them somewhere. Okay, so what if he was at Hogwarts, you see, a boarding school? Okay, he's got a wand problem.

The wand is the problem. All those kids are haggard after they get be nice with him i you know i just i cannot believe it like just get one hr person just like hire one hr person who's like who's like in the back who's like excuse me pardon me uh priests we can't allow kid fucking in the organization it's right here in the rule book. You know, just one guy who's going to stand up and be like, um, guys, uh, turn to your bylaws. It says no kid fucking. We're not allowed to do that. I know you want to send him off to a, to a school in Columbia so he can rape a bunch of other kids, but, but it turns out we can't do that. Right. I know we all want to do

that, but we can't. Okay. Your, your hand in the catholic church really only needs to be two pages page one page one is the cover sheet yeah okay page no table of contents i'll give you 11 rules yeah you can have the first one be the 10 commandments if you want and the 11th one is you're fired if you fuck the kids that's it the. The other 10, you can just say, I'm sorry, looking generally upward. Yeah. But you're fired on the 11th.

You could do all, you could murder, you could covet some other guy's cassock, if you want, whatever you got to do. God, what an easy problem not to have. Oh man.

When someone comes in with a vague sense of unease or a touch of the nerves or even just more money than sense, they'll be there for them. A bottle of basically just water in one hand and a huge invoice in the other.

God bless America, Tom. This is everything that's wrong all in one story. God bless America. You know what we don't need? Medicare for all. Land that I love. All right, so our foreign listeners

are going to fucking have a heart attack right now. God, you Canadians right now are just snickering through your nose. All right, so this comes from Boing Boing. Boing Boing. Christian Hospital, who cares? Christian Hospital charges its own nurse $900,000 for her premature baby.

$900,000. And they did it. They did it, Tom, because she didn't file the proper paperwork. She didn't file it in triplicate in enough time. And so they're just like, yeah, sorry. Too sad.

Here's your $900,000 bill. And I want to repart it because it's my absolute favorite. It's my absolute favorite. So Bard, the lady's name, exhausted every avenue of appeal within her employer's bureaucracy and was repeatedly told

that there was no possible way her employer insurance would pay for it. She was going to have to go on a $100 a month repayment plan, which would see her in debt for the next 748 years. That's the best thing ever. That's amazing.

They should have done something. They should have put her in debtor's prison for 748 years. Oh, it's amazing. And the best part, my very favorite part, other than the payment plan, it's amazing. And the best part, my very favorite part, other than the payment plan,

which is amazing, which is amazing, is that it's called Dignity Off. Their tagline should be, you lose everything but your dignity. But if you sell that,

you're only going to die 525 years yeah i mean you could say you could pawn your dignity off and maybe maybe pawn your ass off a little pedal your ass and you might be able to get out of get out of debt there that's amazing this is so american i mean you could wrap this in an apple pie and fuck it with a flag. It was so American. This is, like, she didn't file her fucking TPS reports. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, we're a country and this is like, for a foreign listener, the thing is that like, if you don't

like, you get once a year where something like called open enrollment comes along, right? And that's about right now in most organizations. It's open enrollment time. And if you miss open enrollment, you can't change your medical benefits. Our benefits coordinator is coming out to my office tomorrow and doing a series of meetings with my employees

because the options are so fucking complicated. I know. They're like, I spent, and I'm not a dumb fucking guy, and I work in insurance, and I spent a couple of hours pouring through in the options, and I've not a dumb fucking guy, and I work in insurance, and I spent a couple of hours pouring through in the options, and I've got my calculators out, and I've got a fucking spreadsheet, and I'm like, all right, if I get this one, and then I fund into a fucking health savings plan, my fucking deductible, what will I be out every month? And here's what I figured out is that if

I pay for a certain plan, and then I fund the entirety of my deductible into a health savings plan and I spend about $700 a month, I can have for that $700 a month, I can have a plan with no deductible. But the thing that that means isn't that then everything is covered. For that $700 a month, it means I have no deductible, which means then the insurance company starts to pay. which means then the insurance company starts to pay. They start to pay at 80%. And then I pay 20% until I've reached a yearly out-of-pocket maximum for my family of $7,500. So in addition to your premiums, you're pretty much guaranteed if you use your insurance for stuff, you're pretty much guaranteed to pay your insurance premium plus about seven grand.

And then your employer kicks in a significant portion that is money you could be making in income. And we're having these conversations about whether or not we want Medicare. And we're like,

well, my taxes would go up. It's like, think about how much you've paid this year. And if you just tally up your medical costs, but you forget to tally up whatever you put in an FSA, whatever you put in to tally up whatever you put in an FSA,

whatever you put in an HSA, whatever you put in an HRA, whatever you spent in co-pays, whatever you spent in prescriptions, whatever you spent, all that stuff is all part and parcel. You got to add all that shit up. And for a lot of people,

it's massively expensive. And over the last five years, the cost of healthcare has gone up 22% in five years, 22% for health insurance costs nationally. That's far outpacing the rate of inflation. Yeah. It's a, you just got to ask yourself,

would I rather pay for my health insurance through the government or pay for my health insurance through a company that's trying to make a profit? Right. Just ask that question out loud. And then once you do be like, oh, that was stupid. I said it out loud now and it's stupid. Okay. No, we shouldn't do that. And I get that there's governmental, you know, there's, there's overspending and bureaucracy can create that stuff, but that shit already exists in the current health care system to a degree that is

already exists in the current health care system to a degree that is more than it would be if there was a fucking single payer system. Vastly more. The number of administrators that have to get involved in health care because of the dozens and dozens of different plans and insurance companies, the way that the convoluted way we have to bill for services in order to get them paid, then the people have to go and collect and the debt collection afterward. All of that comes at a massive cost. And the other thing is like, if my insurance is through my employer, what happens when I lose my job?

I don't have insurance anymore. If I have tons of extra money laying around after I got fired, I have the option of buying my insurance through COBRA, which means I get to pay for the part my employer was paying for, but I'm no longer employed in that scenario. So where does that money even come from? If it all comes from our collective taxes, that means that my employment status doesn't correlate with my health status. Think about that for a second. At what time in your life are you like,

you know, it'd be good when I was out of work. To be sick too. And bro, well, fuck me sideways. That sounds baller. What? I want to say too, the reason why these bullshit rules are in there is so they can get out of paying this stuff. There's a reason they want to get out of paying

a $900,000 bill because they want to keep that $900,000. That's the reason, right? They want to keep that money. They want to That's the reason, right? They want to keep that money. They want to make sure that the doctor doesn't get it. They want to make sure that the nurses don't get it, that all the, you know, that they had this kid in the ICU for 21 days or whatever.

So, or 24 days, it was a very premature baby. Her baby was a 21 week baby, I guess, or something like that. I mean, it was like, so super premature. So very, very difficult. And she was, you know, going through a super hard time. They want to make sure they don't pay for all that stuff and they don't want to pay

any, they don't want to pay. They want to keep that money. Just fucking say that out loud. Right. Be like, they would, they don't want to pay it.

They don't want to pay it. No. The thing is, is like, if we all chip in, we all just pay it. That's how it works. But instead we're like,

no, you know what? I, I, I'm fucking, it. That's how it works. But instead, we're like, no, you know what? I'm fucking folksy fucking Sarah Palin of fucking Minnesota. And there are people who like their insurance companies. Fuck my insurance company with a flaming stick. I don't give a fuck about them. I don't care about them. I don't care if they fucking winked out of existence tomorrow.

Wouldn't even matter. And I guarantee 90% of the people who have insurance would feel the exact same way. Well, and here's the other thing about that $900,000. If the insurance company doesn't pay it, nobody gets paid. This woman's not paying $900,000, which means all those people, the hospital, they don't get that money. They don't want to pay that. Right. So that means your costs went up. Yeah. Everybody eats that shit somehow. We're already subsidizing the cost of this program.

Right. We're already paying for it because if that doctor didn't get paid, but they rendered services, what they do is they build a certain amount of, fuck me, I don't get paid sometimes into their billing structure, which is why an MRI costs like $2,400 when the fucking machines aren't even that expensive anymore. Well, and, and, you know, they don't want to pay them. That's, that's totally true. The $900,000 wasn't going to go back to you. They weren't going to make your rates lower if they got that $900,000, if they didn't have to spend that $900,000, do you think that they'd somehow forego the fucking owner and the fucking CEO and the board getting huge amounts of money?

No, fuck that. They wouldn't do that. They'd be like, they're not going to be like, okay, well, guys, we saved $2 billion this year. Lower everybody's rates. Fuck you. Are you kidding me? That's the dumbest argument I've ever heard where people are like, no, you should be able to keep her and fuck my insurance, period. I want to get his shirt.

It just says, fuck my insurance. Fuck him. Why does a hunter need a handgun? Tons of reasons. Handguns are much better for hunting in close quarters like an abandoned warehouse or a factory. And why would you be hunting in an abandoned warehouse or factory? abandoned warehouse or a factory. And why would you be hunting in an abandoned warehouse or factory? Say you track this big buck to the outskirts of town and you found that he made himself a makeshift home in the bottom of an abandoned warehouse. With a handgun, you could

easily sneak up on him and get a death shot. That way he won't be running around with your daughter anymore and filling her head with ridiculous ideas and corrupting her character. This story comes from the Friendly Atheist blog over at Patheos. A GOP candidate for Virginia Senate, friendly atheist blog over at Patheos, a GOP candidate for Virginia Senate, the 10 commandments will stop gun violence. And I read that and I thought, well, they haven't yet.

What are we waiting for? What are we waiting for? Like, what, when are they doing that? What's the timeline on that event? And what commandment is thou shalt not bump stock? Like, which one is that? Somebody.

Thou shalt not cover thy neighbor's AR-15. I don't, I mean, like, what is, what is it that we're? Well, like, yeah, I guess if you hide behind a monument. Well, yeah, exactly.

Yeah, if you, if you just happen to be walking with two stone tablets, you'll be okay. P-ting, p-ting, p-ting. Thou shalt not kill me, motherfucker. You shoot Moses down and he stands up

and he just pulls his shirt back and he's got a stone tablet. I was saved by the stone tablet. Jesus burned into the fucking stone. That's actually how they cracked. Oh, gosh. That's how Jesus lit the bush on fire was with his AR-15.

Oh, man. Dropping incendiary rounds. It's so amazing. I bush on fire was with his AR-15. Oh, man. Drop it and send it around. It's so amazing. I want to read part of this. All right. This is amazing. So they basically go to this guy and they talk,

they sent this... Wait, can you tell me what his name is? Because it's great. So, Arthur Purves. Arthur Purves? Arthur Purves. I don't know. Purves, Purves.

It could be pervs. But, and Janet Howell are the two people who were running in the state Senate race for Virginia. And what happened was, is they asked them a question. They had sent them the like, hey, we're going to, here's an essay. We want to ask you, we want to give us a 750 word explanations

of why Virginians should vote for them. And I want to read you, we want to give us a 750 word explanations of why Virginians should vote for them. And I want to read part of this. His education plan, for example, boils down to, quote, more phonics, end quote,

and getting the kids to, quote, drill and kill in math. Look, they didn't ask you about fucking our foreign policy in the Middle East. They asked you about math. What the fuck? I thought that was our current energy policy, drill and kill. Well, yeah, it could be a lot of things, it turns out. But yeah, so basically he says his answer is the solution for gun violence

is gun violence is prevalent where fatherlessness is prevalent. Huh, that's interesting. Fathers are the best form of gun control. That doesn't even make any sense. And the Ten Commandments are the only gun control laws that ever worked. And that guy lost by 25 points. He was resoundingly voted out.

He was resoundingly voted out of office. Hear what this guy believes though. And it's like, some people are like, well, that makes some sense to me. Check that box. Did you listen to the daily this week? I did not. About the who's electable? No, I feel sad already. They've been doing this thing. They had a poll that went out where they called people on the phone and they were trying to find out who's electable. And I hate the way they say that because it inherently means, would you vote for a woman? But they can't come out and say that. So they have to couch it in

the language of electability and things like that because people will just, they'll recognize a bullshit question, but they won't recognize the sort of trick that they play on them, which is like, do you think any of the women are likable is one of the questions.

And it's funny that many of the people said no. And when they did this polling, and again, it's a relatively small poll, like 3,000 people, and it was done by phone. Again, something that seems to weigh heavily on people who answer their phone nowadays. Because if somebody were to call me and be like, hey, do you have 10 minutes for a quick survey? I'd be like, abso-fucking-lutely not. The end. And I wouldn't answer. There's no way I would spend the time on a phone to answer a survey. Yeah, I think I would respond a little differently. I think I'd say,

you've reached the voicemail of Tom Curry. Exactly. And I will never answer that call or call it back. You would never. And I have a feeling when they said, this poll went out, and they did this phone polling, you hear some of these people and they gave them,

how do you think President Trump is doing one very good you know to five awful or whatever and there's this hillbilly on the phone that they're talking to this hillbilly old woman who's like very good he's the best and she's talking over the guy who's trying to give her the numbers

and she's like five five five he's the best and I'm just like, you're a fucking idiot. But like, when you hear these people say it out loud, they're like,

like, do you think he could do anything differently? Like, no, he shouldn't do anything differently. You know, they're asking questions like that. And you're just,

my mouth is open. I'm like, like, but this, it's a cult of personality on that other side. So it's, it's not,

they're not thinking about anything policy wise. They don't, because none of the things that he's doing is affecting them in any positive way. The only thing that he's allowing is for us to be a little more racist.

And I guess that that's the only positive in their life. Well, I'm a single issue voter. Exactly. Racism. So white people, I'm a single issue. I'm pro. Quickly, that poll showed that Biden would probably win in all the swing states

that the Dems lost last time against Trump. Bernie would win three of the six. Liz would lose all six. Yeah. And the people who voted specifically that were way, way high on Trump, 20 plus points high on Trump, were all uneducated, non-college going white people.

All college going, most college going were well into the Trump category, like are away from Trump, like by like five or six points. And then people of color were farther away. You gotta stop, like if you're like Republican, do you ever look around and say like, man, I am in good company. That's how you want for real it's like well you know my we just it's just all the people that don't know stuff like the guys we you don't want you don't want the people on your team

to be the guys that don't know how books work yeah you know like i read them from right to backward and up to diagonal. And you're just like, all right. Give me that back. You're not allowed to use. Stop scratching and sniffing at it. Turn the Kindle over. The screen's on the other side.

For real. Like, when you look around, you're like, well, it's all the uneducated people are on my side. Well, let's tell you something about your side. You don't agree with me? People that don't know stuff. That's the wrong people. Don't you think you're just automatically wrong? It's amazing, too, how

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This story comes from the Post Gazette. Ohio ex-missionary sentenced to nine years in prison in child sex abuse cases. This story is fucking super upsetting. In part because the guy only gets nine years, which makes no sense to me because he was basically a missionary in Haiti. And he's like the number of his victims is in the dozens, like many dozens of people that he victimized. And they're just like, well, all right, we'll give you three months a person, you know, cause they're Haitian black kids. And they took, they, they, they wound up a lot of the other ones that he was, that he was,

um, he was accused of here in the States where they were just like, like dropped. And so only a couple of them went through, but yeah, like you said, it's 30, it says 30 boys that the former missionary had sexually molested in Haiti.

So 30 boys, this guy molested. You know, the QAnon people have been talking about Haiti for a while as like a sex ring or whatever like that. But they stay away from the religious people that go down there and fucking basically molest like an entire duck, duck, goose game. Goose, goose, goose, goose. You don't want the goose. You don't want the duck either. You definitely don't want the goose goose you know what you don't want the duck either you definitely don't want the goose you're all goose but seriously like this guy like you know he goes down and like like it's like four baseball teams worth of kids well the guy even

goes down there and he's like look there's a bunch of kids running around here naked this is not a good place for people like me yeah it's what he fucking says yeah but it's not like he was like this isn't a good place for people like me i'm getting back on an airplane to avoid the temptation yeah because i'm a fucking monster of a person yeah instead he's like oh an all-you-can-eat buffet nom nom nom and like i'm still hungry and like this fucking monstrous human being is supported by, and the reason I grabbed this story is because otherwise it's like,

oh, another fucking religious figure, molest kids story at every fucking day, right? What happened here is like the courtroom was packed with congregants that supported this guy. There was pages and pages and pages of people that were all that wrote shit in, like letters upon letters when they were going to sentence this guy. And they weren't writing saying he didn't do it, right? They're writing saying

he's a good guy. I've never seen anybody repent so hard that they actually said that. Like, never seen anybody repent that hard. They repented until that kid's ass was bloody. Man, he can repent like anybody's business. It's amazing. He'll repent in your business if you let him. Yeah. That repent is dripping right now. He fucking repented, whatever. Yeah. This is the problem with Christian forgiveness. I know I've brought this up, but I think it's a huge problem because as long as you have this idea that you can say sorry to the general welfare of man or like fucking apologize to the sky or whatever because you can repent for anything the damage you do is no longer yeah like you're not like subject to it anymore yeah and you can just be like yeah i was a bad person but now i'm not a bad person. But you know, like when you molest two and a half dozen people,

you're just always a bad person. And like, you like, there should be a point where like, people are like, you know, I don't want to stand behind that guy. I don't want to stand in front of him either.

Cause he just keeps raping people. You know, I have to say like, if you're going to like ever try to like build yourself up after doing something wrong, you have to admit your like, if you're going to like, ever try to like, build yourself up after doing something wrong, you have to admit your own guilt. Right. And you have to like,

in some ways, repent for it. But that forgiveness is not the audiences to give. It's not the, anybody's to give except for the victims. It's not the fucking,

the people in the audience are like, you should just, don't worry about it. It's fine. That's not theirs to give. It's not the judges to give. It's nobody's to give except for society at large, except for the people who were victimized. And to be honest, it doesn't matter if they forgive or

not, the person should still be punished. It says it should be out of the hands of the person who was victimized. It's society that's saying, no, that's a heinous crime you committed. And we want to make sure that you don't do it again. And so we're going to put you behind bars and, you know, we won't rehabilitate you in the States, but we might try to rehabilitate you other places, maybe for different crimes. Maybe you would never let somebody out like this out ever again. But, you know, if there was a different crime, maybe they would try to rehabilitate them. But instead it's, you know, we're basically allowing, somehow they thought that a whole room full of these people and a whole bunch of letters would sway the judge

and the judge was just like, fuck no. He had to stop. He was going to cry. Like he had to stop himself because he was like so overwhelmed with this guy's crimes. This is a judge. This is somebody who's like a fucking like- This isn't his first rodeo battle.

Yeah, this is a noob. And he even said, he's like, yeah, you know, I only have like a couple more years of this left. And he's like, and thank goodness because my gosh, you're a fucking monster. You know what I mean? He didn't say that out loud,

but that's what he meant when he fucking sentenced this guy. And I think he gave him the best he could. I think so too. Because it was based on, it was based on the people here. I don't think they were trying them

for the people that were in other countries. No, I think that they weren't. I think it was for the people here. Kristen Stewart's new movie, which is a biopic about Adolf Hitler. She's going to is a biopic about Adolf Hitler. She's going to play the title character, Adolf Hitler.

Do you think she's doing this for her career or do you think she's doing it for shock value? I mean, you know, Hitler's been demonized over time ever since World War II. Oh my God. This is the end of all times, buddy. It's from the Washington Post, which I think is funny.

I love it. I love it. The best part is, is that the Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal were the ones that reported on this story. A library wanted a New York Times subscription. Officials refused, citing Trump and fake news.

So I got to quote the guy because I want to make sure that this is not like, oh, well, I mean, it's not really what he said. Here's what the fucking guy said. When the request came before the Citrus County Commission last month, local officials literally laughed out loud. One commissioner, Scott Carnahan, declared the paper to be fake news. Quote, I agree with President Trump. I will not be voting for this.

I don't want the New York Times in this county. What the fuck is happening? The library is like, I don't want the New York Times in this county. What the fuck is happening? The library is like, I don't want newspapers in our library because they write stories that are not favorable to my guy. This is very much, this is very much sort of what we would think about

happening in like, like, you know, like a Russia or something like that. Or in like a fucking, like Germany or something like that. Like, it's like, like, you know, like a Russia or something like that, or in like a, or in like a fucking, um, like Germany or something like that. Like, it's like, like, it's one of those things that you see happening and you're like, I can't believe that he has discredited the newspapers so much that, that counties around the country won't be renewing their subscription to the New York times, even just to look at it as like a biased source, right?

That's what I mean. Like if you're like, yeah, that's a liberal rag. Okay. All right. But it's in your, like libraries have lots of ideas in them. Yeah. It's not like you just throw out all the ideas you don't like,

but that is what you do in a fascist country. Yeah. Yeah. Comrade, this is not in agreement with our policies. Yeah, exactly. Mr. Putin says Comrade, this is not in agreement with our policies. Yeah, exactly. Mr. Putin says no New York Times. What the fuck?

Fox News okay, though. We okay with Fox News. You know why? Because Fox, he has friends. Yeah. Fox and the friends. The Fox likes the bear. The bear is a friend.

You know what, Fox? Putin likes the bear. You go ahead. You guard Hen House. He's fine. No problems. That's so true, man. But it's crazy that he has

discredited the news enough in this country to where people synonymous with fake is false. But fake to him just means a bad story, something he doesn't like.

But they, now, if it's a bad story against him, it's fake, meaning it's false. It's a, it's a really strange thing. He has done it enough. He has said it enough and done it enough. And his followers have done it enough to discredit it. And it's not that I don't disagree if like, if they were to come in and they were to say, like, I'm trying to think of like, you know, like if it was like a Nazi magazine or something like that. And they're like,

yeah, we don't want to spend our money on a Nazi magazine. I would agree. I'd be like, you know what? Yeah, you don't have to spend your money on that.

But that like hate speech is just inherently different than like just reporting on the news. I also wouldn't want them to spend their money on some dude's QAnon blog. You know what I mean? Like,

like there's, there's certainly some sort of journalistic integrity that would be necessary for you to spend $2,700 of the county's money on a subscription for something, right? So there has to be some sort of integrity. But we're talking

about an institution that's over 100 years old, I think? And it's an institution in journalism. Yeah, this is not, this is not, I get that like all news is to some degree editorializing, right? Unless you're like,

the boulder weighed seven pounds. You know what I mean? Not a very big boulder, but you know what I mean? Like, unless you're just stating a raw fact, but even that, just by omission, et cetera, there is no way to remove the human element

from a human created narrative, right? I understand that. And I understand too, that the New York Times leans left. I don't think anybody pretends that it doesn't lean left, but there's a huge difference between what we just don't like and what is untrue. And after 2016, after the fucking insane madness of 2016 and the fallout and evaluation that occurred really during 17 and 18, where we looked back and we're like, how the fuck did any of that happen? And we had this idea that like, oh man, we were misled by fake news stories.

And that was seized upon by Trump to say, okay, if some news is fake, then all the news, then I can use that. I can use that lever to make people who are afraid of being tricked say anything that they don't agree with is fake. So instead of using critical thinking, what it encourages you to do is use your biases.

It literally leads you further from truth. It keeps you in your echo chamber. Right. China has total respect for Donald Trump's very, very large brain. They call her Pocahontas. I am the chosen one.

You are fake news. Okay. I am the least racist person. Look at my African-American over here. Look at him. It's a camera. Grab him by the pussy.

Stop it. All right, Tom. So this week in Trump, we already did talk on the stream a little bit about the weird hug. It's so weird. The total weird hug that he received from, it was Kurt Suzuki.

It's the greatest hug. Got a weird hug. Now, granted, it's a flash moment where he's getting a hug and clearly Pitbull's over here on the side. It totally doesn't look like it doesn't look like pit bull. Holy shit. But anyway,

Kurt, Kurt's getting a hug, but it's like, it's like a second, but Tom said it on the stream. And I think this encapsulated perfectly. It's like Cecil, how many dudes have you hugged from behind? And the answer is zero.

And of course, you know, that's it's like, it's just like, like, it's not something you do to somebody who you're not intimate with. You know what I mean? Like if you're intimate with someone, chances are hugging them from behind is totally not a thing that would even come up.

But if you're not intimate with them or even go one step further and like would never ever be able to be intimate with them, it's wildly inappropriate. It's so, it's just weird. It's not a thing people do. Like, I don't care that like, I'm not even making like, they're like, oh,

it's kind of gay. It's just like, it's just like one of those instances where like Trump can't people good. Yeah, no, yeah. It's,

it's, it's another Ted Cruz for human president. Right. Like, it's one of those moments where you're just like, you are not a human being. It's just like, I'm going to hug you from behind.

Like my little, my, my son who is five will sometimes run up and give me a you from behind. Like my little, my son, who is five, will sometimes run up and give me a hug from behind because he's five. And he doesn't, but I'll tell you what, my daughter who's eight doesn't do that. Right, right.

There's a certain level. It's just weird. Yeah. There's two stories that are in conjunction. How Trump is reacting to the newly released testimony from Sondland and Volcker. And then this is from Rolling Stone. The guy Trump cited as proof

there was an acquit pro quo just said there was acquit pro quo. Basically what these transcripts reveal in this big thing is that the guy lied. the guy said something for trump trump had sent him a message out before and had asked him to say that trump didn't there was no quid pro quo and then he used that language when he talked to someone else and then he testified that and then they asked him again and he was like like, oh, yeah, I kind of, there was kind of quid pro quo.

He was sort of like, well, all this other evidence came out, and I'm going to get called out as a liar and a plagiarist. And I'm going to maybe go seek some jail time if I lie. So I guess I've had my memory refreshed. Yep. Turns out the truth is what I meant the first time. I was just like, what is that? Like, genuinely, the defense that's

being offered is, at this point, the president is too stupid to know what he was doing. That's all there is. That's what we've got. Our best case scenario for the supporters right now is the policies are so incoherent

as to be meaningless. How many times have you heard with this president, and this is the only time you've ever heard this in your life, I know it, where it's like, well, you can't take him seriously. That's not what he meant. He's just trolling America. And we're just like, well, that's all bad enough. I don't need to know anything else to know that that's not an okay thing

for the leader of this country to do even so even if that's true it's just like even like even if it's true that like oh there's no actual quid pro quo although there very fucking clearly was it's just that his policy with another foreign leader is so incompetent that we can no longer hold him accountable for his actions. Well, okay, I'll just decide that's unacceptable then. Yeah, yeah. I, you know, I want to turn back too to the people who think that, you know, that having something,

because initially they did say, it doesn't matter if it's quid pro quo. Like that was initially their decision or the way in which they framed it. And then they brought that back and said there wasn't, right? You don't want this. You don't want this as an iffy fucking thing when someone else is in office. You just don't want it. You want to make sure that there's hard rules against a president who already has amazing electoral voting power as a fucking incumbent, you don't

want to give him more power and allow him to tap into funds that we're giving to other countries and say, these are conditional funds unless you don't fucking investigate the people who are working that I'm going to possibly be running against. You don't want, you just don't want that. We don't want them involved in our election system anyway in the first place. Yeah, in what world do we turn to Eastern Europe and ask them to help smear our opponents

in a political campaign? What is happening right now? I just don't get it. Where are all the guys that are like sucking the fucking shriveling wrinkled dick of Reagan? Yeah. Do you think like Reagan who waged a cold war against like Russia wouldn't be like,

oh, wait a minute, hold on a second. This is not like, this is not like what we had in mind. Like this is like everything we're doing is the wrong thing that we should be doing. Literally every single thing all the time. I look around and was like, this cannot be true anymore. And then it gets weirder. What do you think is going to, I mean, I think we talked about it already, but like, you know, the country is sort of gearing up for the impeachment, which will be televised and all the stuff's going to be televised. People are already saying, no, they're not going to show up.

So that's already been sort of happening, which is crazy. I think too, you know, one of the things that makes me hopeful is these last elections that just happened where people came out and like big numbers, did some things that, you know, haven't been done in many, many years. Kentucky going blue, in my opinion, is huge. I know you said that there's a way that that guy can flip shit around, but one of the things you got to understand too, is like, you know, if you're a Congressman, you're normally, your, your district's either gerrymandered or you got enough people in that district that are going to keep you there for probably a while. There's some battleground congressional districts for sure. But my guy, as long as he wants to run in Chicago is going to run, right? My guy's always going to win. So it's not like, you know, it's, you know,

maybe, maybe my guy might change, but certainly not going to change from blue. Right. So like what happened with Alexandria Cortez, you know, that, that, she was blue, but she unseated another blue guy. Right. Right. So that's what happened there. But no matter what your representation doesn't change because that's just a deep blue district and it's always going to be blue.

And there's deep red districts, et cetera. And, you know, so congressional ones are different, but Senate, that's your state, right? That's a state vote, right? And if they can oust the governor, they can oust the senator. Yeah, they can flip the Senate. They can flip that senator.

They can definitely do it. Now, Missouri or was it Mississippi? Mississippi also had a governor race and the Democrat lost by a bunch. The Democrat. That's Mississippi. But it's Mississippi. There's nobody in Mississippi

has ever read a book. Not one person. But I will say this, like you see Mississippi, that's a deep red battleground. I saw somebody today that posted something about like, you know, all that stuff down there is blue. You just got to like, it's just horribly gerrymandered. I'm like, no, there's, there's governors and senators that are all red down

there. It's not because of gerrymandering. Now it might be because of vote suppression. That's possible, right? There's a possibility, especially in some of these places that vote suppression is a big deal, especially in Georgia. Huge, huge deal. Voter suppression is huge. I'll get it. I'll grant you that. But it's not because of gerrymandering in the state stuff. No, no. And that's where they can't hide. They can't hide. You know, Moscow Mitch can't hide in Kentucky in the gerrymandering. He's going to he's running and it's going to have to he's going to have to run a really tight campaign because the person they're going to try to unseat him and you're going to make sure

that every young voter in Kentucky comes out. Well, that's why I think that when it does happen and it will, and it will happen in our lifetime and relatively shortly, when the voting bloc that is numerically most significant in this country finally wakes the fuck up and realizes that they have all the power. The country goes blue.

Yeah. And the whole country goes blue. Yeah. Because, you know, what happened is that Congress, the House of Representatives, flipped blue. And like you said, they flipped blue despite the fact that gerrymandering exists and disproportionately advantages Republicans. Yeah. So that flipped blue. When you have just a straight up yes, no binary count of votes in Adam.

Yeah. When the country turns blue, it doesn't turn back. That's going to happen. It's going to happen in a lifetime. In my opinion, you're going to see, I think there's a good chance we could, I haven't looked at any of the polls and any of the numbers, and I don't know exactly who's running,

but I think that there might be some chance just based on voting numbers that some of these Republican seats, like I say, you're never going to flip Mississippi, but if Kentucky is on the edge, some of these other states could be very much on the edge. So this is a big moment, and it's a don't stop moment.

It's a keep going, keep protesting, keep the fire going, keep paying attention, and keep voting every chance you get. That's the key. All that matters is keeping our foot on the pedal right now. Yep, that's all you got to do. Hi, everyone. Did you miss our live stream Thursday? Well, you can still watch it on YouTube, which you should be subscribed to, please, and comment and like.

Or you can listen to the audio as a Patreon supporter if you aren't already one, which hopefully you are because the glory hole requires a lot of back-end cleaning. So here's a bit of that show. Thanks. If you're a lizard person, you need to do better because every single image of this woman in this, she looks different than the other image by a lot. Not by like a little bit. Like,

you could easily be like, they replaced the actress in season two. Like, that's how bad she looks. That's because like the level of the plastic surgery that she has had, that's how bad she looks. That's because, like, the level of the plastic surgery that she has had has reached, like, rictus levels. Yeah, exactly. Her face is a frozen rictus.

It's funny, too, because we were paying attention to it a couple weeks ago. We didn't play the clip. Tom and I watched it. She slurs her words because she has so much Botox in her face that she can't move her lips anymore. Like, look at the picture right now. It's like, yeah, it's smooth. Yeah, I know.

But, like, smooth is not the only thing human faces look like. But, like, it looks like somebody stuck a stick back there and, like, twisted it until it got a little tight or something. Right. Yeah. You want me to tell you what my thoughts are? No. No, we don't.

No, we don't. It really genuinely is. If you looked at each one of those facial pictures, she's very different in each one. She's crazily different. Like, we don't. It really genuinely is. If you looked at each one of those facial pictures, she's very different in each one. She's crazily different. Like, she's hired a different surgeon each time. And each one's an impressionist. They're all Monet.

And, like, every time she stands there, she looks like a camera with somebody had sort of smeared a little Vaseline on the lens. She does. Yeah, she kind of always looks out of focus. The thoughts of the King of Kings. The thoughts of the King of Kings. The thoughts of the Lord of Lords. I'm downloading heaven. What does that even mean? I'm downloading heaven.

Hold on. On my dial-up, it's going to take forever. Oh, my God. Who picked up the phone? I was downloading heaven. Three tetraflops. This is going to take an eternity. Oh, my God.

Line. Line. When do I see the whole boob line line line? This is just all right. I'm already done master baby This is even worth it. I'm downloading heaven. I Love this so much They all say the same thing whenever they speak speak in tongues, they say the same thing. They just repeat shit. In tongues, go. Taco, taco, taco, taco, taco. They just repeat.

Like, if you listen, they're repeating the same syllables. It's fucking amazing. Now let's get back to the show. Sister comes from Right Wing Watch. This is Dave. Coach. Doc Coach.

Not a coach. Dob and Meyer. Believes he is entitled to a jury filled with conservative Christians. Let me play just a bit of this and we'll get into it. You know what? Kyle Zaster told me he was worried about. He's worried about being a jury of people who've been wounded by church. He said, you've got to be as careful as that one.

Remember I talked the other day about a jury of our peers? Who are your peers? I'm going to tell you, folks, most people I walk around with are not my peers. They're not my peers. You're misunderstanding what a legal peer is, you twat. Let me read it real quick. From law.com, a guarantee right of criminal defendants in which peer means equal.

This has been interpreted by courts to mean that the available jurors include a broad spectrum of the population, particularly of race, national origin, and gender. Jury selection may include no process which excludes those of a particular race or intentionally narrows

the spectrum of possible jurors. It does not mean that women are tried by women, Asians by Asians, or African Americans by African Americans. That's literally against the law. What I love here is that

he not only misunderstands what someone's legal peer is versus your social peer, but legal peerage is based on the idea of equality. And his whole supposition here is that these people are not equal to me. They're not my equal. It's like, just like out loud and everything, he's like, they're not the same as me.

I'm clearly better. And I got to say, like, I would like to not be judged by a jury of legal peers. Nothing in the world, after watching a million true crime shows, I know, right? Nothing in the whole world scares me more than being judged by a jury of my legal peers. That sounds like a literally terrifying possibility. What you're hoping for is to get and convince the dumb ones. I mean,

like literally that's all you're trying to do. And I think the reason why people do it is because don't you only need a couple to like make sure that, you know, you, you, it does it because if it goes hung or whatever, it's better for you than if it just goes to,

I think it's better whenever someone's hung. Like that's just like every, maybe not, maybe not. Actually, there's. That's just like every... Maybe not. Maybe not, actually. There's some... Quickly take that back. Yeah, all right. Quickly take that back.

Walking that back. Walking that back. Unlike if it's hung, you can't quickly take it back. I'll tell you what. If I end up going to prison, I don't want anyone... You definitely don't want to hung.

Okay. No. Hard pass. Hard pass. Yeah, it's just such a weird thing to say. And it's clearly superior. It's clearly a supremacy thing to say. Right.

Like Christian supremacy. And it's clearly obvious that he thinks that those people are less than him. And that they're, you know, and it's funny too, because this week, we did one of these, sometimes you do different retreats than I do, right? So like my, your corporate retreats are like, how many people are we

going to fire this week? That is literally what our retreats are about. My retreats are like, how do you feel? Can I trust fall you a couple more times? It's like super terrible. It's like the worst thing that's ever happened to me in my life. Well, here's what I want somebody. I want to go to one of yours and have you call. Like I want the organizer

of one of yours to come to one of mine. Can we go swapsies? So what I did this last time, we were supposed to have two people to come in. So the first one was going to be talking about one thing and someone else was going to be talking about another thing. And the person who was going to be talking about the second thing called in sick,

so couldn't come in and talk about it. And so we decided instead that we were just going to do one and we were going to do one, have lunch, and then talk about the second one. But instead they were like, okay, well, we're just going to do lunch and then we're over. And I looked at everybody in the room and I was like, are we doing one after? And they said, no. And I got my stuff on and I didn't eat lunch with them and I left. That's my department. I left. I was like, yeah, I don't need to eat lunch with you people. I don't need to talk to you. I'm like the worst coworker in the world. But you just, you have healthy boundaries. Yeah, I totally do. I totally do. The thing is,

I don't, I'm not mean to anybody, but I certainly don't want to have lunch with them. Like, it's just not, I'm not mean to them though. But in any case, we had a retreat this week. And one of the things you had to write down on the wall, because you do these things where you write stuff down on the wall and everybody reads like what people wrote. one of the things was what do you think people say about you so the whole concept was like talking about a story and like not paying attention to one story in one person's life because okay the organization i work for works with people in poverty and so um they talk about like not talking not thinking about one story to define a person's life when they're talking about like communities on the margins a lot of those stories are like,

they're dirty, they're poor, they're uneducated, they're not hardworking. You know, like those stories are all negatives, right? And so they were asking like, what are the negative stories about you personally? And then they asked what your positive stories were on a different sheet. And what I posted on there,

because most of the people, everybody except for me and my organization is religious. And so I said, well, you know, and I know this is true because I've done a hundred stories on this. People think I'm unethical because I don't have God. And I wrote that on there. And someone that, while they read it out loud, laughed. They laughed out loud at it. I don't know who did it because it was a big room. It's like 40 people or whatever. So I don't know who laughed, but they clearly think it's a joke, but it's not a joke. This guy and many other people in this country think that you are unethical and unable to judge someone. They can't, you can't look at someone and make a good decision based on that. And that you're going to be so clouded because you were hurt by the church. You're going to be so clouded by that.

Do you, are you telling me right now, when you sit down on a jury, the first thing they ask, are you a victim of a crime? Right? Were you a victim? So they would be like, yeah, I was molested by the church.

Well, this is a church fucking thing. Right. Sayonara, motherfucker. Like, you think you're actually going to get a guy on the jury or a gal on the jury that's been actually molested or whatever? Right. Of course not. Like that has been hurt by the church. No.

And even if you were like, you don't like the church anymore, there's going to be plenty of questions if the person happens to be very religious and that's what it's about. There's going to be plenty of questions to exclude people who have bias there. So the idea that they have ways to get around this. You can even not have any black

people on the jury, even though it's illegal. You get a handful of just arbitrary decisions that you don't have to explain to. And some, not everywhere, but you can be like, that guy, I'm going to strike. I don't like him. I don't like him. Yeah. You don't have to give a reason. You only get a couple of those, but you get a couple where you're just like, no, not it.

Yeah. I just got a weird vibe. It's like, you don't, he doesn't understand how any of it works. And you're like, and the other thing too, is like, clearly he thinks that people who don't have religion aren't, they're not ethical people. And you're like, well, that's just not true. That's just not a true statement. And there's plenty of reason to think that I'm actually more ethical

than most church people. Yeah, there's literally every reason to think that. I'm trying to think of a church that is not mired in scandal. Right. Can you think of any church? I mean, like the Quakers. You never hear about the Quakers. I guess not.

Right? The Quakers are too busy making oatmeal. Yeah. They're just like, everything's fine in our oatmeal factory. But man, there's a lot of, you're right. There's a lot of religions that all have scandal that are, you know what I mean? It's like, you're not- There's mired in it.

Yeah. So- Even like hot yoga is mired in it. I will say, yeah, I will say like the atheist community is not without its fucking dirt bags either though. Right. So- But it's like not a monolith either. Right. Yeah, we'll say like the atheist community is not without its fucking dirt bags either though. Right. But it's like not a monolith either. Right.

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So we got a little bit of email we want to cover. So, Tom, she said yes. She said yes. She said yes. First proposal on the show. Right. How cool is that?

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And Andromeda also has Kevin Sorbo in it as a starring. And I guess a couple people had said the Magog thing reminded them that Kevin Sorbo was in a terrible sci-fi stuff called Andromeda. So it's not something I would watch. I don't know. We got a really great email from Ben who talked about, he says, drowning out morons with baritones. He tells a story of how there were these hate preachers. They started protesting opposite the feminists and the LGBTQ group. And they were just screaming and yelling and being obnoxious. And they got

a bunch of baritones to come out and do some music and whatnot. And they were doing some stuff. So they're basically fighting with them for a while. About 100 people were shouting them down. And then finally, the baritone players had to leave. And then a guy in full Scottish regalia playing the bagpipes and just wails on those fuckers. And he says, he has no idea where this guy came from, but he was the fucking best. And I guess by the time word came out to him, he couldn't make it. But a bunch of people from the secular student Alliance went and they just use bagpipes and just shouted out these people that were just hate preachers. And I thought it was awesome. I love the idea of a fucking, a fucking bagpipes. It's amazing. You can't be louder than bagpipes. We got a, we had a message from Regina and Regina says, Hey guys, love the family episode. Here's a

couple more. Holy hell on Netflix. I got the hell out, which is a podcast. Um, and, uh, it sounds like a podcast series and then people magazine investigates cults. So there's a couple of things that we can take a look at. Tom and I may take a look at these things. Thank you so much, Regina, for sending in suggestions. So we got a Kyle sending a message and he just said, Hey, I just want to let you guys know that the place you're talking about in Connecticut is Pepe's Pizza. The pie is famous. The place is famous for the clam pie. Wait, what?

That's redundant. But anyway, I want to read the list though. So the list that I found has 10 best places. John's of Bleeker Street in New York. I think that we did eat there. That's number 10. Number nine, Lou Malnati's, which makes sense. Lou's is better than that.

So that's in Chicago. Patsy's in New York, number eight. Seven, Sally's a Pizza. That's in New Haven. That's the one. Okay. That's in Connecticut. So that's number seven.

Tontano's, I guess. I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly. It's in Brooklyn. Okay. Buddy's Pizza in Detroit that's number five really Pequod's number four

yeah number three Raza Pizza in Jersey City what and then two Lucali in Brooklyn okay

and number one it's not the one maybe it is Pepe because it says, Frank Pepe's Pizzeria Neapolitana. Neapolitana. Huh. That's the number one.

And that's in Connecticut? And that's in New Haven. Okay. So I guess maybe you're saying Pepe's, but yeah, it's Frank Pepe. All right, we gotta go. So I think we're gonna have to make a pilgrimage there eventually to try this pizza.

I saw a picture of it. It looked pretty good. I was talking today in a meeting with somebody from Indiana. And in Highland, Indiana, there is a pizza and they want me to come out and try it. I am not doing it. It is a cream cheese, garlic, and pickle pizza. Cream cheese, garlic, and pickle. I saw recently there was a Reuben pizza someone made.

Okay. Yeah. I love a good Reuben. See, here's the thing. I love a Reuben, but I don't know if that's a pizza. It's a Reuben pizza someone made. Okay. Yeah. I love a good Reuben. See, here's the thing. I love a Reuben, but I don't know if that's a pizza. It's a Reuben flatbread. Right. It's not a pizza.

Yeah. Just because you made it in a circle does not a pizza make. Jeremy sends in a message. He's talking about Colorado-style pizza. And he said, in Colorado, evidently, you eat a bit of the crust by topping up with a topping of honey. Um, after you eat the rest of the slice, I actually had pizza when I was in France and a couple other places, they have a, a chili oil. So they take olive oil and they add chili peppers to it. Sure. And then they, you pour olive chili oil over your pizza.

Interesting. And you eat it and it's delicious. Is it good? It's delicious. It's really good because it has that spice. Just like,

so we add, and I don't know if this is, this is a regional thing, but for pizza here, when you order pizza, you'll get a little bit of crushed red pepper. Right.

And so they'll take those, those red pepper and you just pour it onto like your pizza. Do you do that? Do you put chili flake on your pizza? I normally don't.

I normally don't. Yeah. I do sometimes. Yeah. I only like it on pepperoni pizza. It's rare.? Do you put chili flake on your pizza? I normally don't. I normally don't, yeah. I do sometimes. I only like it on pepperoni pizza. It's rare that I would put it on other stuff. But yeah, like I guess you could put it on, some stuff is okay with it. Most of the time I'll put it on

if the pizza is just bland. I'll be like, well, it needs something. Something, right, yeah. And so I put it on there. And then they also add little packets of Parmesan too for the same reason. It's the dried, awful, terrible Parmesan. It tastes like sawdust.

Yep. And it won't even melt. You literally cannot melt that cheese. There's no liquid left in it. It's just a horror. There's no oil left in it either. They've desiccated it. I might as well say, do not eat on it.

It's like silica baskets. But anyway, they hand that stuff out. But if you mix it with that oil, the olive oil adds a richness, which is really good. And then it's also spicy. And so that's actually a really cool way. I think it's a great way to eat pizza.

So Sean sends in a message and he's talking about, we were talking about uplifting tragedies a few months ago. And he says he works at a large federal agency. And he said, I recently received an email from a coworker who they've never met that was blasted out to over a thousand people in the agency. The purpose of the email was to ask for me and my coworkers to donate our vacation days to him. He's been fighting cancer for over a year and in the process burned all his sick days and vacation days. So his options are either to take unpaid leave while he gets his cancer treatment

and hope that his coworkers donate their time off to him so he can use it. So basically like he's just hoping that they will do this. That's the country that we live in is where you just, if you're just sick, we're sorry. Well, you just, that's just sucks for you. And do you have disability insurance through your work? I don't know.

I was just going through open enrollment and like, I was reading through the benefits package and I realized that this is the first time in my life I have a short and long-term

disability benefit. Yeah. And up until this moment, until this company that I work for now, I'd have been in the same spot without the voluntary leave. Yeah, because you can't.

Because most places wouldn't lend you. Yeah, right. Most places wouldn't lend you. So you get sick long-term and you're just fucked long-term. Enjoy it. Yeah.

So this is probably the best bit of logic we've gotten in a long time. Tom, I'm going to read it. Premise one. This is from Zach. Premise one, white people are humans. Premise two, non-white people are humans. Premise three, personal bias nonwithstanding.

All humans deserve equal moral consideration. Conclusion, white people and non-white people deserve equal moral consideration. Okay, next. Next logic series. Premise one, Chicago pizza is pizza. Premise two, New York pizza is pizza. Premise three, personal bias nonwithstanding, Tom,

all pizza deserves equal gustatory consideration. Conclusion, Tom and Cecil are pizza racists. I can live with that. I'm okay with it. Yeah, I'll sleep well at night. I'm all right with it. Yeah. I, you know, here's the thing.

Like, I bet you, there's a couple of places we just read off. I bet you a couple of those places are pretty amazing. But every single time I go out to New York, they're like, you got to try this pizza. And I try it and taste like Sbarro. It'd be like,

if every time you came to Chicago, I was like, dude, you have to try this burger joint. And I took you McDonald's every time or a McDonald's clone. And you'd be like, yeah, man,

I mean, it's okay, but it's, it tastes like sweet ketchup. Like it's just, and the fries are real salty, I mean, it's okay, but it tastes like sweet ketchup. Like it's just, eh. And the fries are real salty. I mean, I guess it's all right,

but I like, like it's not, I certainly wouldn't choose to eat it. Like it's the same thing. It's the same exact thing. So understand that's the experience that I keep having over and over and over again. I'm willing to change my mind. I went out to New York and had wonderful food. I guarantee there's pizza there that I would like.

I guarantee it. I just haven't had it yet. So Theo says, you should try things in a pizza in a wood pellet grill. I used to grill pizza. And when I had a space to grill it, I don't have a space to grill it anymore because I live in a condo

and I don't have a balcony or any place to do it. But I used to grill pizza and grilled pizza is amazing. We grilled pizza at my house once on a charcoal grill. It's amazing. It's delicious. So yeah, absolutely. I think grilled pizza is outstanding. A wood-fired oven,

most of the time will add an amazing flavor to it. So you're absolutely right, Theo. Got an image from someone's gym. They had a Thanksgiving glory glory. What the fuck? I'm going to post it on this week's show notes. What? It's for canned goods. Okay. Maybe. Maybe it's for other things. Sure it is. Got a message from Kyle. Kyle was talking, we were talking about ER doctors having to spend a lot of time working, but he's saying that he's a paramedic and he has to spend an immense amount of time.

He says he works 24 to 48 hour shifts, totaling 60 hours a week. He gets paid a pittance. I don't want to tell everybody how much you make, but he gets paid a very low rate of pay. Lower than what I would consider the minimum wage by a lot. That's all I want to say out loud. So lower than what I would consider the minimum wage by a lot. That's all I want to say out loud. So lower than what I would consider a minimum wage in this country.

And much lower than what Bernie Sanders would consider a minimum wage in this country. Says he works about 120 hours per pay period. Many times he works 24 hours and he doesn't. And he says that the mobility, the upward mobility in cash in the ER profession or in the emergency paramedic profession, he says in five years, a person only makes, what is that? 6% or 7% more than they did, or maybe it's a little more than that. 8% more? Yeah. It's a tiny amount. It's a tiny amount. In five years, could you imagine just going up 8%? Here's the thing. Paramedics are treated terribly. EMTs are treated terribly. It's such hard work

and we need you so badly. And like, we don't pay anything and we don't respect it. And those people put their lives on the line. The worst part about it is, is that they weaponize those people. And they always say, well, an EMT doesn't get $15 an hour. Why should a McDonald's worker? And it's the other way to say it. It's like, yes, you're absolutely right. McDonald's workers should be making $15 an hour

and an EMT should be making a lot more than that. Yeah, right. The thing is like, when I call an ambulance, I want that guy to be well-rested and well-paid. I want that guy to have well-rested and well-paid. I want that guy to have had a great day today. Yeah. That guy needs to be in a good mood when he picks me up for my emergency. What I don't get is like, from what I hear, an ambulance ride is an immense cost.

Five, six grand, something like that. It's a lot of money. Where does that money go? Does it not trickle down? I mean, seriously, that money just goes away and there's nothing because man, the amount of time you're spending, like, let's just say it's an hour. That's what? Like if it was an hour ride or an hour, you had to be with somebody. They got off so light paying you. The equipment, I'm sure, costs a lot of money. But after a while, that's it. You know, it's like a...

Yeah, I'm sure there's insurance costs. I'm sure there's a lot involved. But seriously, though. I know. I mean, the amount of money that goes into that and you don't see any of it? Yeah. Again, I don't know how the profit margin situation on an ambulance company works. I don't have any idea. But it seems so unfair. It's insane to me.

And again, there's some jobs where I'm like, I'm willing to pay. If I'm paying five, then I need to pay six. I'm willing to pay seven. Let's do it. I'm paying seven as long as that guy makes sure that I'm— I need that guy to be in a good mood today and well-rested, thinking clearly. The amount of money that this guy gets, you could punch out a Scrooge McDuck.

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