Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 514: Modest Needs Update
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and this is a very important episode for a couple of reasons first of all the uh pandemic unless
you're on the west coast is not in full swing it's it's like a west coast swing out there it's a
whole different dance um but uh the rest of us are just warily eyeing our pending apocalypse. And we are also joined by
Keith from Modest Needs. Hey, guys, how are you doing? We are so far so good. Thanks for joining
us. I'm so glad to be here. I've missed you. It's great to be here. So, Keith, we had a pretty big year this year. Did we know? Now, it's
in large part to your
super mysterious donor
who donated as much as
our audience donated. That's right.
But genuinely,
the audience for our show
and for the Puzzle and the Thunderstorm shows
donated an immense
amount of money this year. We broke
$300,000. $306,000, right? year. We broke 300,000.
306, right? I think that was the total.
306 was the total. And we just wanted to get you on and talk a little bit about sort of what that
did, what our audience was able to do to help your organization this year.
Well, I would love to tell you, let me just start by saying, I can't, I mean, I'm a little short for words because, I mean, what do you say to people who help you raise that kind of money in a month?
It's just unbelievable, the generosity of your community.
And I'm grateful to be able to work with you.
But let me give you just like an idea of what that meant.
you uh but let me give you just like an idea of of what that meant we funded more people in november than we had funded in the whole year up to that point oh wow that's so exciting that is great
we have not yet said no to anybody not since november oh my god shit we've been able to fund
eventually not not always instantly yeah but eventually every person
who has asked for our help who especially those who really needed i mean we knew they needed it
and they needed it fast we've been able to get the help to them and let me tell you how we're
actually using the funding because you know i like i like to stretch a dollar you know take it as far
as we can right so what we're doing is we're taking this
this giant pool of money that we have gotten and we're using it to start applications and we're
using it to bring applications very close to being fulfilled now see the reason we're doing that
we know that other people will will if once if we start it they'll come in work with it. So we get a little extra money going in there.
We can save some of that and use it later.
And if we get it close to being fulfilled,
we know there's somebody who wants to come in and have the thrill of finishing that.
Yes.
Yep.
And so.
Who doesn't love to swoop in for the big finish?
Who doesn't love the money shot?
That's the best part.
I don't give a shit who you are.
You fast forward.
All right. You fast forward. You fast forward.
We all do it.
We all want to see
the climax of porn.
I want to watch it in an eight minute video.
Come on.
How did I get hooked up with you, Mr.
You're in bed with the devil now.
Now you're stuck here with us.
I'm going to have to, oh my gosh.
Okay.
But no, seriously, let me, I want to share something with you.
I think your audience, your community is going to love this.
I'm going to give you an example of one that we did, an application that we did actually
on Saturday of this week.
Okay.
So we're talking about what, three, four days ago.
This will give you a sense of what you're actually achieving.
So the story is really simple and pretty intense.
The title of the application, this woman says,
I have breast cancer and just buried my only child.
The expenses meant I couldn't pay rent help.
And she goes on to say exactly what she just said.
She's a single mom.
She has been diagnosed with stage 3 breast cancer.
She's doing chemo, and the treatments make her sick, so she misses work.
And on top of that, her son was an it was you know he was older
you know like an adult uh like 18 or 19 he died and she had him cremated because that's what she
could afford to do and says here between his cremation my medical expenses and the time off
i've had to take because the chemo made me sick i won't be able to pay my rent i've never completely
missed a rental payment before but my landlord is all about business. And if I can't pay both February and March's rent by March
4th, I'm going to be evicted. So, so let's, what is today? Not the fourth?
I was, it was a couple of days ago.
So we, yeah, we paid that on the third.
Oh, that's so great.
But listen, no, here's all of that that's great but this is what you need to
hear this is the the thank you note that this this woman wrote it's just this is something else you
ready ready it says today just when i thought nothing could get any worse as i was thinking
of giving up and that was my only answer i I received the help I so desperately needed from Modest Needs.
I can't begin to tell you how much that turned my life around. I do have hope, and giving up
is no longer an option. If people like you have faith in me, then I have to have faith also.
I won't lie, it hasn't been easy. Losing my child didn't define me, but it sure changed me.
For what you've done you've restored
a lot of what i thought i had lost and words can never express what you have given me back
and not because you had to because you wanted to and that fills my heart when it was so empty
you've given me more than you realize and i can't thank you enough and i won't forget who gave me
my new outlook on life i hope one day i can help someone the way you've helped me so kindly.
A million thank yous.
Couldn't say it enough,
but know from the bottom of my heart,
you've given me what I needed to pick up the pieces and carry on.
You renewed my strength and gave me the strength to be the person I can be.
Thank you with all my heart.
Wow.
That is unreal.
Now it's all dusty in our studio.
I don't. What? That is something else. Wow. That is unreal. Now it's all dusty in our studio. I'm like, I don't.
That is something else.
You made me feel feelings.
That's not you, Keith.
I'm such a jerk like that.
That can't be an isolated incident though, right?
I mean, that kind of thing almost certainly happens a lot.
You had told us stories before that people who are,
who do get help do come back and become people
who donate to Modest Needs.
More than ever before.
Really, we're seeing a huge percentage
of the families that we help come back
and also work to help others.
And very generously too,
especially when you consider
that these were the people who needed help.
There's one person today who pledged $20 a month
and they're a former applicant. That's a huge commitment.
That is. People just need that. They just need to
have help that one time to just not fall into that cycle.
That's what I love so much about your organization. It keeps people out of the grinding
gears. Absolutely. That's absolutely right. so much about your organization. It keeps people out of the grinding gears.
Absolutely.
It's absolutely right. And, you know, what you have to do is you got to take what I just read you and multiply that by around 400 or so.
Oh, my God.
And that's what's happened since November.
Wow.
Because of you guys.
Wow.
Yeah.
So your community really.
Yeah.
I just, on behalf of all of these people who you've helped, I cannot thank you enough.
Our community is generous.
I'm just so lucky to be able to work with you.
Thank you.
Our community is very generous.
They're just very generous.
Yeah, they're beyond generous because it's not a moneyed community.
It's a very diverse community, but we have so many listeners that they write us and they're not in a good spot
and they still give. And that kind of generosity is incredible to me because it's one thing for
those with money, those who have to give, and that's not nothing. I mean, that's amazing. And
people should, if they have extra, they should, you know, have philanthropy in their lives. What I find
amazing though, is the strength of our community with people that are giving what little that they
have, you know, they give little bits because they have so many of them have little bits.
They write into us to say like, you know, I gave X amount. I wish I could have given more,
but I'm just at this place in my life. I'm a student. I'm on a fixed income. I'm just,
you know, I'm in Mississippi.
I'm working three jobs.
Or some horrible thing, you know?
Right.
But, you know, I'm going to tell you something,
and I don't know why this happens this way,
but that specific kind of generosity
seems to beget more generosity.
Does that make any sense?
Yeah.
Somehow that happens,
and I have no doubt
that it's those kinds of contributions. I mean, especially those
kinds of contributions that really help drive everything we've been able to do since we did
this in November. So, I mean, especially to those folks. I mean, I also know exactly what it is to
be on that fixed income. And listen, when you give up, it's one thing to
help somebody, but when you sacrifice something to help them, boy, that's just a, that says a lot
about your character and about what your values are. And I really have a lot of love and respect
for those people. So I want to ask you, and I'm not going to ask you to identify, of course, but the anonymous donor was so key to pushing us just so far above and beyond. And I think it was
motivating for our audience to know that every dollar that they donated was matched. So I'm
certain that you've had conversations with that individual. Oh, have we ever had conversations?
I just want to get a sense of the flavor. How excited were they?
What was their reaction to this whole thing?
Okay, so you have to understand when they set the initial,
I think we started at 100, didn't we?
Yeah, it was 100 this year.
We were all blown away by that.
Yeah, we were nervous.
We weren't going to be able to use it.
Yeah, we thought we were going to maybe scratch 50.
And that is also, I think, what he thought.
And so, you know, he I think, what he thought. And so,
you know, he was like, dude, whoa,
what are you doing over there?
No, he has been
just absolutely
ecstatic, and he's already
pledged to do it again next year.
Oh, so great.
So the amount TBD,
but there's been a hint that it's going to go up.
Oh, wow.
That would be great to hear.
Because, you know, like these things are exciting for people.
People want to be a part of something.
And I have to imagine for whoever that donor is, like he probably got excited by this too
and probably was caught up in the momentum of it as well.
Like it doesn't happen if it's just that guy.
And it doesn't happen the same way if
it's just our community, but it's that, that synergy between, you know, big giant impactful
single donors, like the gentleman who donated so much. And then the hundreds, a thousand donors,
thousands of donors that made up, made up all the balance of it. Like that role, that synergy is just, that's awesome.
Yeah.
That's how things are supposed to work, you know?
Not just at modest needs, but really, I think generally, right?
People do what they can.
And we all come together and make this world a better place for all of us.
And it was really a pleasure to see that happen.
But yeah, I mean, he's beside himself.
He's really, yeah, a lot.
And I have to tell you, I've known this guy a long, long time.
And it was really, really fun to stick into him a little.
Take that.
Take that for helping people.
Right?
No, he must be an incredible person to have given that way and you know obviously
we don't know his name but we do all want to
extend our thanks I know our audience wants to
as well for sure I want to ask you
Keith here so you know we're in the middle
of a political primary I'm not going to ask you a political
question in general but
you know we are in the middle of a political primary
for the democratic side and what are in the middle of a political primary for the Democratic side.
And what's on the table
and a lot of people are talking about
is healthcare in this country
and how people get healthcare
and universal healthcare and Medicare for all.
All these terms are being thrown about.
I want to ask you,
if you just have a round number in your head,
how many people that you deal with that are dealing with
large medical payments? I can tell you in round numbers how many of the people who come to us are
somehow struggling with medical. If you think back, the person who I just told you about,
right? Yeah. With breast cancer, that's one, right? Yeah. Easily, easily 50, at least 50, probably closer to 60%.
60% of the people are struggling in this country,
not being able to pay for healthcare
and they have to go to another place to,
I mean, one of the people
that we've been talking to a lot this week
has been saying, you know, GoFundMe
is one of the ways that people pay for medicine
in this country.
I have also heard that, yeah. You, you know, go fund me is doing,
I mean, because, because they don't have the same kinds of vetting and limits. You can ask for,
you know, a hundred thousand dollars for a major surgery there, which you obviously can't do at
modest needs. Uh, but we see an awful lot of the fallout from people who, you know, let me,
here's the thing you got to get. All right. The people who are going to go fund me,
they don't have insurance at all. Okay. The people who come know let me here's the thing you got to get all right the people who go fund me they don't have insurance at all yeah okay the people who come to modest needs a lot of them do
have insurance and they can't even handle the co-pays yeah yeah i mean it's it gets so expensive
and and listen having just you know i understand that i really do. It's insane what medical care costs in this country. So it's
obvious that we have to find some way to get that under control. And I hope that this is
the time we finally do that. I do want to talk about one message that you did send to us. We
tried to see if we could coordinate talking to the person, but you sent us a message that I
thought was really touching. A message about a woman who was trying to go to medicine, medical school.
That's right. Yeah. Gosh, I'm so glad you remind me about that. I think that letter has moved up
to be in the top, say three that I've ever gotten since Modest Needs. Can you tell the story?
Yeah, absolutely. I remembered it when I got the
letter. Okay, now you got to remember, this is back in the early, early, early days of Modest
Needs, like within a couple of months after it launched. And things were really different then.
There was not the same sort of process and organization. It was me trying to sort through what was going on.
And I got this letter.
It was just so moving.
This woman was trying to get into medical school, and she had managed to get an interview at a medical school.
And that is, as you know, that's a big deal.
So she couldn't afford to go to the interview.
She didn't have a car that could take her
uh even if she had she would have had gas money so i i believe she asked us for a bus ticket
i think that's what it was uh and it was not not very expensive it was this when you talk
about modest needs it was like 80 bucks uh but she was gonna have to she was gonna have to be
on the bus for hours and hours
and hours so uh this is this is the way things happened a lot back then we had just been you
know on on the news somewhere and we had a little extra money so uh instead of the bus ticket we
bought her a plane ticket and we flew her there and back uh and she first one she thought that
was gonna happen she about lost her mind. Right. So she was so excited.
So anyway, she, you know, she, we fund it and we bought her the plane ticket.
And okay, look, that was 18 years ago.
Okay.
18 years.
And so this year, out of nowhere, we get the mail and, you know, we check the email and there's this letter that this this person has written
and she says basically i went on to go to medical school i graduated i became a physician
and i've gone on now i'm like the head of a department in in a hospital you know i run this
particular department and that, that money that you
use to buy the plane ticket, I just want you to know that there are thousands of people that I
worked with who wouldn't have gotten medical care, who I couldn't have worked with if it had not been
for that plane ticket. That was a turning point in my life. And it really sort of drives home,
doesn't it? I mean, just how much one thing
can make or break you. I mean, who knows what would have happened with her and the people that,
more importantly, the people that she's been able to help, right? If it hadn't been that she
was able to go to that interview. And the reason she was able to go to that interview was because
back in the earliest days when nobody knew what we were there there were still people out there who would stumble across modest needs
and and chip in you know twenty dollars here ten dollars there a hundred dollars there and you know
it just happened we had the money for a plane ticket when she asked and that was i think that's
one of the best things i've ever read about the long-term impact of a small brand like this.
I mean, it's amazing.
And again, I know that it's baked right into the name, but it's like, for so many people,
it's such a small amount of money compared to in the grand scheme of things.
In the grand scheme of a life, it's such a small amount of money, but the impact is enormous.
And that's somebody whose's, who's talent
and intellect and skillset may have otherwise been totally fucking squandered. Yeah. Just,
just absolutely just like fucking squandered for, for $4, $20 bills. Yeah. For nothing. Yeah. For,
you know, like an evening at DoorDash, you know, for real. It's just for real. It's like, for real
sake, like, like, like that just can't happen. Like we just, we can't let that happen. And I'm
so grateful to be able to work with this community and to work with you to make sure that that
doesn't happen in the, in the ways that we can, you know, it's cause that stuff matters. It makes
a big difference. It really, It really does make a big difference.
And, you know, that's what I really love the most about Modest Needs.
The idea that I think that so many people out there in, you know, the world, the country,
Chicago, New York, they would be thrilled to help these people if they just knew that
the need was there.
They just don't know, right?
So that's really what Modest Needs' most important job has become is letting
you know what you can do, you know, like what the possibilities
are. And it's just great. I mean, to watch it
sort of fulfill what I think is its best purpose
thanks to all the folks out there who are just
generous enough to come and do this.
It's really a wonderful moving thing.
And I feel very lucky to get to do this every day.
You know, I'm reminded of like, you ever see somebody stand,
I'm sure you have, you're in New York.
So you see somebody standing on the side of the road and they've got a sign.
It says like, I just need $20 for a bus ticket, right?
And like, we all walk past that guy.
And to be frank, like at least me, I don't want to talk for anyone else. You think, you don't need $20 for a bus ticket, right? And like, we all walk past that guy and to be frank, like at least me,
I don't want to talk for anyone else, you think,
you don't need $20 for a bus ticket. I've seen you here
every day of this week.
But like, if I knew we just needed
$20 for an actual bus ticket,
I would love to give that guy
$20 for a bus ticket. I would
love it. I would be thrilled. And like
what Modest Needs does is make sure that like
that guy who really needs $20 for a bus ticket doesn't need to stand on the corner holding a fucking sign
and begging people for a small amount of money just to have a goddamn opportunity to have a
normal life. Like that's right. Like I love that about you guys. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that
so much. It's it's you're exactly right. I mean, that's our biggest thing.
Make sure it's right. Make sure you're right and then go ahead. That's really what it is.
And we just make sure everybody is on the up and up and make sure that we can
make sure that people know exactly where their money's going. And that also is very rewarding.
So it feels good to give, but it feels even better to know that you gave and it did something. Yeah.
And being able to see what it did is I think a great thing.
So I want to ask you about kind of the, the,
the subject on everybody's mind right now,
the coronavirus and the pandemic and everything. You know, one of the,
one of the worries Washington County in Washington state recently put out a
notice asking everybody,
all 2.2 million residents to work from home if possible.
Right.
You know, the state of California just declared for the whole state an emergency.
The state of Washington declared the state of Washington in a state of emergency.
So as this thing kind of like moves on and we don't know what's going to happen with it. So many people can't work from home.
Like it's real nice and easy to say like, well, work from home. Like just get your laptop from the office and go home and plug in on your home internet and work from home. And that's wonderful
if you happen to have that privilege, but we're in a world that is still by and large, a service
driven economy, which means that most people can't work from home. The vast majority of people cannot work from home. Have you thought at all about how the coronavirus situation,
the pandemic, is going to impact people's needs with their limited paid time off that we have in
this country, no disability insurance that so many people carry? Is this something in your planning
or on your minds right now? Listen, we already have a plan for this. You can actually, if you go to
the Modest Needs site now, you can see the prototype for that plan because this is not
something we have to guess about. Whenever there's a catastrophe, we know, a major disaster,
we know what people are going to need and what disaster agencies are going to be able to provide.
And that's a very different thing than what we do. Right. Yeah. But, uh, let me just tell you
one of the, what we're doing right now. You guys know I'm originally from Nashville, right? Oh,
yeah. Yeah. Okay. So you, did you see all the tornadoes? Yeah. There was huge. Okay. So,
you know, one of actually is a crazy thing. One of modest needs of first board members lost her
home. And, and if, if it hadn't been for the little s Modest's needs, the first board members lost her home. Oh, my God.
And if it hadn't been for the little sirens that are on the phones now that ring when this happens, it's very likely one of her children wouldn't be alive because a piano came and landed on his bed.
So they had just gotten him out and downstairs.
So, yeah, I mean, the damage, the devastation really can't be understated in the parts of the city where that hit.
And here's what, you know, everybody's looking at these images and everybody's like, oh, my gosh, how are we going to rebuild that house?
How are we going to? And that's sort of where people's giving, you know, is focused right now.
And it's where it should be. But here's what also is happening that people are not thinking about.
should be. But here's what also is happening that people are not thinking about. The Nashville economy, maybe more so than a lot of economies, is driven. You talk about a service-driven economy?
Oh, yeah.
I mean, we're talking about entertainers, right? I mean, that's what you do. It's entertainers
and restaurants and bars. And you can't cook from home and serve it at the restaurant. That doesn't work. Oh, that it would.
But anyway, so a lot of businesses are just right now not open because they're damaged.
You can't go to work.
They're going to have to be repaired.
Now, those people, they still have their homes.
They weren't necessarily impacted directly.
A tornado didn't land on their house,
but they're going to lose the next three weeks pay. Now, if you're already struggling to get by,
what do you do when you lose three weeks pay? I mean, what is it that you do?
Yeah. You pick which bill you're going to pay.
Exactly. And that is just not what needs to happen. So what we're doing right now in Nashville, sort of a smaller scale, is what we will do on a bigger scale for the coronavirus. And that is that we are, well, for Nashville, we're trying to raise a little pool of money up front so that we're ready to go when people come to us starting in about two weeks, which is what we know is going to happen.
So what we're going to do is try to pay the rent for them.
One month's rent.
That will get as many people as we can.
That will get them back on track if they're back to work.
Because that's the biggest expense.
And frankly, that's the one they're not going to be able to pay is their rent.
So we're going to try to help with that. Now, for the coronavirus, what we're going to do, we're probably not going to do an upfront
fundraiser because this is going to be a rolling situation. People are going to be coming in all
the time. But what we're going to do is change for people who are affected by the coronavirus,
rather than have to go through and pick which bill they need and all of these other things,
virus, rather than have to go through and pick which bill they need and all of these other things, probably we're just going to say, if you can show us that you are out of work
because of the coronavirus and the funding is available, we will help you with a month's rent
is what we're going to try to do. That's so great. And that's how we're going to do it. So,
you don't know how much money will we have to do that? I don't know.
I mean, let me tell you, as much as we did over the holidays, when you start talking about a pandemic, it only goes so far.
But we're going to be there doing that for as long as we can.
And we're going to keep fundraising until either the need disappears or there's no more money out there.
But I'm pretty sure the need is going to disappear before there's no more money out there. But I'm pretty sure the need is going to disappear before there's no more money out there.
Well, maybe we can help out.
Maybe we can help out.
If you tell our listeners right now where they can go, I'm sure that they'll be able to donate.
Well, if you want to come and help out with the Nashville thing, that would really be great.
It's on the modestneeds.org.
If you look, there are featured applications, and it's one of the featured
applications on the homepage. You just click that, you can make a quick donation, anything you want
to do. Very, very simple. When it's coronavirus time, if you'd like to, I can tell you then more
about exactly how we're going to proceed. But I've already given you, I think, what the goal is.
And I think that's a solid way to approach this, don't you?
Yeah, absolutely.
I do.
I'm worried that one of the greatest impacts the virus is going to have is going to be
a very dramatic economic impact as we slow down, as the economy slows and grinds in some
places to a temporary halt.
There are so many people that don't have anything in the kitty.
There's no halting.
You halt, like you say, you halt the kitty. Like there's no halting.
You halt, like you say, you halt for three weeks.
It's a goddamn panic.
And that's most of America has no cash reserve.
Most of us don't have anything.
Yeah.
That's exactly right.
We're just going to have to do the best we can to help each other out.
This is going to be a time where we all pitch in and help each other as best we can with what we have. We're going to do our best to facilitate that. And, you know, I guess the best
part about doing it through modest needs is that we can actually give you something for it. We can
give you the tax deduction. Yeah, for sure. So at least we'll save you some money next year on
your taxes. And you'll know that you kept somebody from becoming homeless over this stupid
virus, you know, but yeah, it's going to be rough. But I do really, I would like to say it's just,
you know, being from Nashville, it's sort of personal to me, if there's anybody out there
who'd like to go and help these folks out, you know, we set a goal of $50,000. We don't necessarily
think we're going to make that goal, but whatever we have in advance so that we can just start stamping those things approved as soon as we get them,
I'd really love to be able to do that. That's important. Yeah, very important.
Well, Keith, we want to thank you so much for coming on and we were looking forward to working
with you this upcoming year. We hope that people who are listening to this will be saving their
pennies, either donating it now to help the people in Nashville or just saving their
pennies for the upcoming vulgarity for charity this year.
We want to thank you for coming on modest needs.org.
You can donate anytime and Keith,
we will talk to you hopefully sooner rather than later.
Yeah,
I hope so too.
You guys listen.
Thank you so much.
It's been great to talk to you.
Hey man,
thanks for the work you do.
Okay.
Thank you guys.
Thank you so much. Bye bye been great to talk to you. Hey, man, thanks for the work you do. Okay. Thank you, guys. Thank you so much. Bye-bye. All right, everybody, here comes another ad read completely
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You are fake news.
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I am the least racist person.
Look at my African-American over here. Look at him.
It's a camera. Grab him by the pussy. Stop it. So this week in Trump, we want to talk about Trump's his response to the coronavirus.
Basically talking about
how he's pointing to the Obama administration.
We're going to talk a little bit about
Trump on Hannity
and the misinformation
that he spread there.
We're going to talk about Trump's
his lawsuit that is he's suing the New York
Times and he's suing them for having an opinion on the opinion page. And also the Trump campaign
is sending out surveys that look like census and say the word census on them. So why don't we start there? Facebook recently banned an ad from the Trump campaign.
Really crazy to me that Facebook would do something like,
I don't know, ban something.
Yeah, like moderate some of the content
on its goddamn platform.
You figure that they probably wouldn't do that normally,
but I guess they might've got a lot of pressure for this.
It is listed like a survey and it looks like a survey,
but it does use the word census.
And a census is a very specific type of survey
that you shouldn't be comparing this to.
Yeah, well, you know, what's crazy is like
the census coming up,
it's vital that everybody be counted, right?
Because it's how we draw congressional districts and it's like how we decide who gets represented. It's how we allot money. There's
like $1.7 trillion worth of money tied directly to the kind of the population count and distribution
of population that's determined by the census. And, you know, the Republicans don't want everybody
to stand up and be counted they want only certain
people to be counted right and they've been very clear they've gone to the Supreme Court to try to
prevent and to try to make it more difficult to see what people to be counted did you see what
happened um speaking of being counted did you see the the lines that the people of color had to deal
with in Texas no the lack the lines to vote They closed a bunch of voting centers in Texas,
tons of voting centers in the black areas.
So they're waiting.
One guy had to wait seven hours to vote in the primary.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Seven hours.
Seven hours.
That's unbelievable.
That's just straight obstruction.
People called it a poll tax, and it's true.
That's a poll tax.
It's essentially a poll tax.
If I have to travel super far, it costs money.
If I have to travel super far, I waste my. Well, if I have to travel super far,
I waste my day.
Because if I'm a worker,
what else am I going to do, right?
That's a poll tax.
You're wasting my day
when it shouldn't be that bad.
You closed all these things in our area
specifically because of this,
because you didn't want to hear our voice.
They never closed that shit down like Hinsdale.
No, fucking A.
Not Hinsdale, not Naperville.
Naperville's got plenty.
You can fucking zoom right through. They'll take your shit at the drive hinsdale not naperville naperville's got plenty you fucking
zoom right through they'll take your they'll take your shit at the drive-thru right yeah where i
live text it in right but where i live it is like i drove to a polling station last last time i
voted i drove to the polling station and they're like oh no we changed your polling station you
have to drive to the other one i was like I already drove like three quarters of a mile. I gotta drive another, seriously,
one mile to the next polling
station. That's how far it
was. Because it's like,
they're not going to fuck you over.
In an affluent white community,
they're just not going to fuck you over.
It's just not going to happen. But, you know,
minorities, fuck you.
Because they don't want minorities to be counted.
They don't want them to vote. They don't want them to be counted, just like in the census thing.
Yeah.
And like, just to be super clear,
in case there's no confusion,
this Facebook ad was from the Trump administration.
And when you click on it,
it takes you to a page.
This is what it says.
And when you click on the thing,
this is just a survey just for Donald Trump.
That's all it is.
It says,
official 2020 congressional district census. Yeah. That is, that's all it is. It says official 2020 congressional district census.
Yeah.
That is, that is a, that's not just misleading.
That's flat out fucking lying.
Yeah.
And even Facebook who allows lying.
Yeah, who's like fine with it.
Facebook has said it's okay for candidates to lie.
Like that is, that does not violate our policies.
But Facebook does have a written policy that bans anything that
would like spread misinformation about the census. Specifically, they have a policy about the census.
And so when this was challenged, they were like, well, no, it's about the, it's, it's really an ad
for the campaign. And they looked at it further, like, no, actually this violates our policy
against misinformation around the census itself. It's from the Trump.
It's from Trump.
It's not from like friends of Trump
or supporters of Trump
or super best friends, super back of Trump.
It's from Trump.
It's like, it's not like,
oh, you know, maybe it's not retired.
It's fucking, it's them.
Like, and it is, it's not just misleading.
It's flat out fucking lying
because they're using that word on purpose.
Well, and you know,
here's a perfect example of what happens when your power goes unchecked.
When suddenly you feel like you can't do,
there's nothing you can do
that people are going to try to stop you for
or reprimand you for.
He has had an essentially a total run.
He's run amok over anything that's coming his way.
He hasn't once put his foot on the brake
the entire time he's been president.
He's been breaking rules constantly left and right.
And now we know that there's no teeth
behind a lot of the stuff that he does.
There's just no teeth behind it.
He can break whatever rule he wants
and nobody cares as long as the Republicans are there
in the Senate to be able to protect him.
As long as he has his guys to protect him,
there's nothing that can happen.
So even if this is brought up
in front of an ethics committee,
even if people see this
and it is brought up in front of an ethics committee
and people hear it
and then they file a formal complaint,
nothing will happen.
Literally nothing will happen.
No, it's like,
it's a sternly worded letter
that you then laugh at
and throw in your shredder.
Who cares?
He wants to sue the New York Times
for having an opinion.
And why don't we just listen
to this really quickly?
Your campaign today
sued the New York Times
for an opinion piece.
Yeah.
Is it your opinion
or is it your contention
that if people have
an opinion contrary to yours
that they should be sued?
Well, when they get
the opinion totally wrong
as the New York Times did,
and frankly, they've got a lot wrong over the last number of years. So we'll see how
that, let that work its way through the courts. If you read it, you'll see it's beyond an opinion.
That's not an opinion. That's something much more than an opinion. They did a bad thing
and there'll be more coming. There'll be more. That's much more than opinion.
It's from the opinion page.
What else can it be?
Is it a gun that shoots you when you open the paper?
Yeah.
What could it possibly be other than an opinion?
The government, like, it's the First Amendment.
The government cannot impinge upon the free speech of the citizenry.
Yeah.
Like, the papers, the goddamn free press,
like, are you fucking kidding me?
How do we have a free press if the government
can sue because
they don't like the opinion page of the
newspaper?
I think he's thinking it's slander,
I guess. I don't know, but like,
but like, you're a public figure, like,
slander is like, you can do
and say anything, almost. I mean, there are almost no limits when you're a public figure. But like, you're a public figure. Like, slander is like, you can do with say anything almost.
I mean, there are almost no limits when you're a public figure.
But like, the opinion page of the New York Times,
like, is this the road that we want to go down?
This is autocrat.
This is genuinely the road they want to go down.
This is genuinely the road they're happy to be on.
Look at all those drooling fans he gets everywhere he goes.
This is the road they are happy to be on.
If you're in a place where the Second Amendment
is more important than the first,
you're a fucking idiot.
You just are.
Like, you're just a goddamn fool.
Yeah.
So the coronavirus.
Oh, Jesus.
You know, let's talk about this story.
This is from Vox.
He says, this is just my hunch.
Trump goes on Fox News and spreads
misinformation about the coronavirus. He's on Hannity. And there's a lot he said. Why don't
we just read what he said aloud? It's four paragraphs worth. So I think the 3.4% number
is really a false number. Now, this is just my hunch, but based on a lot of conversations with
a lot of people that do this, because a lot of people have this, and it is very mild.
They will get better very rapidly.
They don't even see a doctor or call a doctor.
You never hear about those people, so you can't put them down in the category, in overall population, in terms of this coronavirus or virus.
So you just, you can't do that.
All right, let's stop there.
Talk about that paragraph.
Okay, every single thing is wrong.
Pretty much, yeah.
The president should not be calling into question.
When this is a 3.4, we're talking about the lethality, right?
So the president should not be using hunches to trump the who.
Yeah.
Right?
So if the World Health Organization or the CDC who studies these things and understands
how numbers and statistics works, and it's not just, I took the total number and I divided the fucking number of dead people into it.
It's a little more statistically rigorous than that.
Sure, a little bit.
To come up to the fucking lethality rate
of a fucking emerging virus.
Yeah.
Like, you don't get to have a hunch.
You don't, like, you just, you're not allowed to.
Like, at some point, you're too important
to talk about your fucking hunches.
Yeah.
I can have a hunch.
You can have a hunch.
But fucking, like, unless you're Starsky and hunch,
it doesn't fucking matter.
It doesn't fucking matter.
Unless you're fucking
ringing a bell at Notre Dame.
No hunches.
You don't get a hunch.
Seriously, though.
So good.
Imagine this.
Let's just change the scenario.
There's nuclear missiles flying to us.
They're flying to us from some other place.
Right.
And he says, you know, I got a hunch that it's only going to hit New York City.
But there's several of them flying to other places.
And NORAD is like, here's where they are.
Here's where they're going.
We plotted their trajectory.
There is science for this.
One's going to hit in the field.
It's not going to hit near Chicago.
It's going to hit in a field.
Like science.
This is why you cannot have somebody who is scientifically and medically illiterate
be in charge of these things or speak on these things. Or if they're going to speak,
they need to be a goddamn mouthpiece for the experts.
Or, you know, maybe there should be some sort of problem with an authority figure downplaying
something that they know is hurting them, right? Maybe there should be something we can do
to stop them from doing that.
Or maybe there should be another group
that comes out and says that you can't say that.
But there's nothing like that.
We don't have anything like that.
No, we have nothing like that
because we have unchecked executive power.
Like, we're going to talk about this, I'm sure,
but like, there is a sense that it's like,
oh, well, you know, and we've heard this before,
like, yeah, local government is more important than federal government.
No, that's not true.
It's just not true.
Trump has blown that shit up.
It's just not true.
There is rampant power creep into the executive branch.
The motherfucker can do and say whatever he wants.
He controls a huge amount of money, a huge amount of resources.
He's also controlling huge amounts of the goddamn public narrative.
And that's incredibly important.
If the president comes out and says,
this thing is just a common cold,
don't sweat it, go to work.
That's going to cause untold hundreds
or thousands of people to die.
The next paragraph, Tom.
Yeah.
Well, real quick.
The other thing I want to say is like,
he says they will get better very rapidly.
They don't even see a doctor or call a doctor.
Like that's not fucking true.
It's not true.
80% of cases they mark as mild, but they mark anything as mild that doesn't require artificial ventilation.
That doesn't make something mild.
That's not a cold.
Pneumonia, which I've had, is not, it's just mild.
I'm a little under the weather.
I'm not going to go bowling tonight.
Like that's not what pneumonia is like.
Pneumonia is a serious thing that can scar your lungs.
That can have long-term repercussions on your overall health.
It can make you more susceptible to getting sick and dying when you catch something later down the road.
This is not a common cold.
This isn't like, oh, I got a case of the sniffles.
It's just not.
For a lot of people, it's just not. For a lot of people, it's just not. And that marker from mild to severe,
they move you from mild to severe
if you need artificial ventilation.
It has to get that serious
that you can't breathe on your own.
So when he's saying like, oh, it's mild,
he's using it mild like fucking mild hot sauce.
You know what I mean?
He's using it mild colloquially.
Like, ah, it's mild.
Because he doesn't know.
Because he probably zoned out
during that meeting.
Right.
Because this last week,
he was talking to someone
talking about a vaccine
and he says,
well, I'd like to get it in two months.
And they said,
well, it can't happen in two months.
That's the first trial.
And then we're going to move it to testing.
And he says,
well, I like the two-month figure better.
Let's do it in two months.
And the guy who said,
the guy who said it across from him,
one of the top scientists is like,
you're a fucking idiot.
That's not how it works, dummy.
You just want to hit him in the back of the head.
I saw that same shit.
He's like, well, we can know this tomorrow.
And they're like, it's in clinical trials.
And he's like, well, we can know it tomorrow.
It's like, if they could know it tomorrow, they would know it.
You don't know how knowing works.
And that's how I mean it.
You don't know how the process of knowing works.
You're not smart enough.
He also keeps conflating it with the flu.
He calls it the Corona flu.
Corona flu, yeah.
And then he's like, well, why can't we use the flu vaccine?
He said it out loud.
He's like, we have really good vaccines for the flu.
Why can't we use the flu vaccine?
And they're like, because it's not the flu.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
You're the dumbest creature that's ever walked.
Well, what's crazy is, is now that this last week,
they cut those people out of there.
They were filming those.
They were filming those people having the conversations,
the meetings, those big meetings
about this national health crisis.
Instead, he just said,
you know what?
I don't want you here.
I don't want you here.
You can't film here anymore.
Yeah, because it's embarrassing for me to sit there.
Because it's embarrassing because he's a fucking fool.
Yeah, with his stupid arms crossed.
He sits there with his arms crossed
like a petulant child
across from people
who are fucking smart.
Yeah.
And he's not in the right room, right?
Yeah.
And he fucking knows it.
Yeah.
And he asks dumb questions
and then he tries to poke people
and he tries to poke them
the same way he would do
in a boardroom,
which is like,
you told me you were going to have
this project in six months.
I need it in three.
Yeah.
You got to work harder. Give me some more work. As if the problem is that people
aren't working overtime, you know, as if the problem is like something that like you can ramp
up through some kind of, you know, efficiency gain. Like you can't just buy more concrete for
the fucking virus. You can't do that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Make the science happen faster. Yeah. Do
the science faster. Did you see they're crowdsourcing it?
Really?
As a way to help move things along,
there's a thing that I saw this week
that is a game that they let people play
and they collect the data.
And it's about blocking receptors on a flu thing.
So it's crowdsourcing
through like this huge...
Okay, not crowdsourcing,
funding.
Not funding.
I'm sorry.
No, that's okay.
I was just like,
God, why can't we publicly
fund these things?
I wasn't clear.
I wasn't clear.
I'm sorry.
But no,
basically the think tank
is reaching out.
It's a lot like
what they used to do with SETI,
and I don't know
if they still do this,
where they just let your computer
run in the background and do it.
They're just asking people to play a
fun game, and this game happens
to be something that
they can gather data from,
and I guess it helps. I don't know how it works.
That shit's way beyond my...
Is it Plague Inc.? Because I've
been playing it. I know, I'm playing it like crazy.
I played it, and I
played it, and I was like, virus?
COVID-19. Did you? I did, and I killed the world in like a thousand days in a screenshot. I'm like, I got two and I was like, virus? COVID-19.
Did you?
I did.
And I killed the world in like a thousand days in a screenshot.
I'm like, I got two and a half years.
Good for you.
Everything's fine.
I did once and it was back when they were running the 2016 primary
and I named it Ted Cruz.
So the next paragraph, he talks about going to basically
people should be going to work.
It's just saying go to work.
So if, you know, we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work.
Some of them go to work, but they get better.
And then when you do have a death like you had in the state of Washington, like you had one in California, I believe you had one in New York.
You know, all of a sudden it seems like 3 or 4%, which is a very high number,
as opposed to a fraction of 1%.
No shit! Yeah, it would be
a higher number than a... Well, just do different math!
Right. Take some of the deaths out!
Yeah. And then you could get that number!
Well, look, if we adjust either the numerator
or denominator, we can get
different math on it. You know,
I read an article this week that's like,
it's not like if I think I
have coronavirus, I can go to my doctor and get tested. Like, I have to qualify to be tested.
So I can be, right now it's so fucked up. I can be symptomatic. I can go to my doctor who agrees
that I am symptomatic. And that does not necessarily mean that I am going to get tested. I have to
qualify. And the only way that you qualify right now is that you have to be able to prove that you've had contact with somebody else that has had coronavirus, right?
So like, even if I match the entire symptom profile, I don't know who I necessarily had
contact with in the subway or who was in the Starbucks an hour before me. And like,
viruses land on surfaces in our car. It's not a good system. So our system for detecting and tracking and testing,
it's just awful.
It's just essentially non-existent.
Yeah, and then there's other stories too
about the guy who has to pay X amount of dollars.
You get charged back from your insurance company.
You get charged back.
These tests cost thousands of dollars.
And when they start coming out with medicines, if they do start
coming out with medicines, do you think that that's going to be free? Do you think somehow
we're just going to have that, that people just say, oh, yeah, sure, you can just have that? No,
of course not. When they come out with the vaccine, they're going to ask a company to create
it or whatever, any kind of treatment drug too. They're going to ask a company to create it,
and then they're going to create it. And then they're going to say, great. Okay. There you go.
You guys, you guys got to pay for it. Your insurance company. Hope you got insurance.
Best of luck. Go fund me if you don't. Right. Like right now you have to pay for the test to
find out if you are a public health hazard. Think about how fucking crazy that is. Like if,
like if you've never been motivated toward a public option before in your life,
this is a true thing. Let's say I don't have insurance or I have one of those catastrophe that is. Like if you've never been motivated toward a public option before in your life,
this is a true thing. Let's say I don't have insurance or I have one of those catastrophe only plans, or I have a very high deductible. And I think I have this virus and I don't want
to spread it because I want to be a responsible citizen. And I don't want other people to get
this thing. Right. And I've had contact with somebody who's had contact, but it's not one
to one, but I go and I get tested. I read a story, this guy got charged like three grand
after he, to pay for the testing.
That's out of his own personal pocket.
Well, I find that out.
There's a lot of people that are gonna be like,
I don't have three grand.
I'm not gonna go get tested.
I'm just not gonna do it.
So like, we're just not gonna find out who has it
because we can't all agree that like,
we are in this together.
So the truth is we're not in this together. A nation of individuals is a nation of fucking
individuals. Well, you had said earlier, one of the major problems that's going to be is
communicating with all the doctors in the, in other places where they have socialized medicine,
they can communicate with all the doctors because they're all part of the same network.
Here there's doctors in different networks all over the country. How are you going to somehow communicate
with all the doctors
and then somehow collate
how many respirators you have, let's say?
How are you going to be able to do that?
How can we do that?
There's no system for any of this
because the system that doctors are connected to
are insurance systems.
Insurance systems are not public health systems.
They're just ways we pay for things.
So insurance is a public health system
the same way a credit card is a public health system.
I can use it to pay for my doctor visit.
My credit card is my public health system.
It's the same thing.
I've ever heard.
So like, it's not like, you know,
like I thought about this this week,
like we don't have a healthcare system.
That's why it has no name.
Yeah.
That's why there's no phone number.
You can't pick up the phone
and call America's healthcare system. Now you can call the CDC, but that's not a healthcare system, that's why it has no name. That's why there's no phone number. You can't pick up the phone and call America's healthcare system. Now, you can call the CDC, but that's not
a healthcare system, right? And the CDC can't say, I'm going to issue an alert and it's going to go
out to all the doctors and it's going to mandate that they all do this thing. That's not a true,
that's not a thing. We don't know, like if I'm a doctor, I'm a hospital and I buy a respirator and
I bought one three years ago, nobody knows I have it.
We don't have to register respirators.
We don't even have to register guns in this country.
Yeah, no kidding, right?
Good thing is, though, if you got more guns, the respirator-to-person count goes down.
That's true.
So, yeah, the ratio's better.
Okay, that's a perforator, not a respirator.
I can see why you get confused.
AR-15's a great perforator.
Really great, really great.
Man.
Excellent.
Just the air goes in and out now.
Man, got breathing holes all over him.
Yeah, I couldn't breathe earlier, got shot with this air.
If I went to a school and got shot with this AR-15, I'm fine now.
I'm basically like a dolphin.
For like seven minutes.
Anyway.
It's just, it's like, it's crazy.
Like, this is the problem with not having any top-down,
any, at all, none, zero, top-down control of medicine.
No top-down communication system.
Like, yeah, doctors can, and probably are, by and large,
looking on the CDC's website,
signed up for newsletters and emails and things along that line.
That's all voluntary.
Yeah.
Because they're just people with jobs.
Yeah.
They don't work for us.
Yeah.
And I don't know how to say that.
They don't work for you.
They just go to work.
Tomorrow, they don't have to go to work.
Nobody can make them go to work.
Nobody can make them do this thing that the CDC recommends that they do.
Nobody can say, okay, everybody- All doctors, all hands on deck. Right. We can't
do that. I read this article. It was so great about like how China managed it, you know? And
like China was like this guy, like he was from the who, and he came back and he's like, I saw what
they did in China and it was fucking unreal. And it's kind of what we need to do here. And they're
describing it. And it's like, he's in this place and there's this woman.
He's like, oh, are you a nurse?
And she's like, no, I'm a receptionist,
but they trained me to do this for this emergency.
And like, everybody's there
and they're required to be there.
And there's, you know, I'm not a big fan
of autocratic regimes, don't get me wrong.
But like, I am a fan of having some ability
to communicate and mandate
when it comes to a public health crisis.
And let's be clear, there's nothing like that. Yeah. Well, and I think that if it does get out of hand in places
like Canada or the UK, they're going to have a step up on us. Oh, yeah. They'll have a step up
on us. For sure. Yeah. He goes on. But again, they don't know about the easy cases because the easy
cases don't go to the hospital. They don't report to doctors or the hospital in many cases. So I think that the who number is very high. I think the number
personally, I would say the number is way under 1%. This coming from a guy who's about to say
the next set of sentences. All right. So he's weighing in just before I read the next thing.
This guy is weighing in on what he thinks is the reality of the lethality rate of an emerging
disease. And here's what he has to say aboutality rate of an emerging disease.
And here's what he has to say about his knowledge of disease in general.
Now with the regular flu,
we average from 27,000 to 77,000 deaths a year.
Who would think that?
I never knew that until six or eight weeks ago.
You're fired.
You're fucking fired.
You're fired.
Why is anybody listening to him about anything ever?
Could you imagine?
It's common knowledge. Could is anybody listening to him about anything ever? Could you imagine? It's common knowledge.
Could you imagine going to your work and they go,
Tom, I need you to drive these papers across town.
And you say, yeah, but I don't know how to put my pants on.
They would fire you, right?
Because it's common knowledge.
It's like, why are you weighing in on like,
I think the World Health Organization
has gotten this all wrong.
By the way, did everybody know the flu was a big deal?
You guys heard of this?
Germ theory of disease.
I mean, I heard about this.
It blew my mind.
I had no idea.
This whole time I've been nursing my humors back to health.
I had no clue.
I thought my black bio was out of whack with my yellow.
Gosh, and I've been drinking this black stuff
to try to get more black bile.
And it's just been rough.
Yeah.
I ground up so many leeches and just,
I had a leech smoothie.
I put them right in my Dr. Pepper.
I don't know how those work either.
Yeah, it made the Dr. Pepper better.
No, that was the name of my doctor, Dr. Pepper.
Yeah, no, that's his name.
It made me feel mellow yellow when I drank it.
Unbelievable.
So he goes on,
he didn't know that shit until six or eight weeks old.
I asked that question.
I said, how many people die of the flu?
You know, you keep hearing about flu shot,
flu shot, flu shot, take your flu shot.
But how many people die of the flu?
Is he mocking the flu shot right now?
Is that what he's doing?
He is.
Because it sounds like it. He totally is like, you know, I used to be dismissive of the flu. Is he mocking the flu shot right now? Like, is that what he's doing? He is. Because it sounds like it.
They totally, he totally is like,
you know, I used to be dismissive of the flu shot
because I was fucking ignorant to the facts.
And then he's seriously making fun of himself right now.
Because then he goes on, he says,
and they said, sir, we lose between 27,000
and, you know, somewhere in the 70s.
I think we went as high as 100,000 people in 1990.
That, by the way, not true.
1990 actually had
one of the lowest
years of flu deaths.
It's so bad at numbers.
It's so great.
Such a fucking idiot.
If you can believe that,
but a lot much people,
a lot much people,
by the way.
That's great.
Regardless,
I think it averages about-
Wait, did he just say
but a lot much people regardless?
But a lot much people regardless.
We need that shirt.
But a lot much people regardless. We need somebody to make a- Puffy buffet. Yeah. But a lot much people regardless.
We need somebody to make a...
But a lot much people regardless shirt.
Anyway.
I think it averages about 36,000 people a year.
So I said, wow, that is a percentage
that is under 1%, very substantially.
So it'd be interesting to see what difference is.
But again, a lot of people don't report.
They can't report, first of all,
because our fucking system is broken
because we can't test and we're not testing and you have to pay for your own fucking test
because america's broken and we're all made out of garbage but also like this guy doesn't know
the difference between the coronavirus covet 19 and the flu yeah he doesn't know how vaccines work
he doesn't know how clinical trials work he's certainly not a mathematician or statistician
but he's telling the american people, don't sweat it.
It's mild. Go to work.
And, you know, he has
since his
big, since he's
started and been in office,
he has used the word fake
as a way
to say this is damning.
As well as
on occasion, I imagine he uses it correctly.
But he mostly uses it for that.
And so when he's in front of his group
and he calls this fake
or he calls it a hoax,
what he means to say is that it's damning
and it's hurting me.
And when he calls it a hoax,
all the fucking knuckleheads
that are in the audience
think it's not real.
Right.
And these are people who,
you know,
you're seeing conspiracy theories online now
where they're talking about how the coronavirus
was sent over here specifically by China
to hurt the president in his presidential bid.
They sent it over during the Democratic primary
because they don't really understand.
And, you know, these are people who don't believe
that Russia had anything to do with the previous election,
any kind of meddling, even though there's clear proof.
They're willing to say, no, that that's impossible,
that's silly, but they're willing to believe this
because the president said it's a hoax.
Yeah.
And that gives them carte blanche to think up
whatever fucking theory they want.
Like, this guy has a very deep
and important responsibility right now.
Like, we joked about this on air.
We did.
Like, months ago.
And I remember saying, like,
can you imagine how awful it would be
to have a guy so scientifically illiterate
and such a liar to the public
and so self-centered and self-serving?
Can you imagine if we had a goddamn pandemic while he was in office?
It would be a fucking disaster.
And I feel like one of those guys who's like,
well, I said it out loud and now it happened.
Like there's somebody like watching.
And it's like, whoa, let's run that one.
I feel like I'm playing Plague Inc.
and somewhere there's a world where that happened.
So Tom, criticized for the coronavirus response,
Trump points to the Obama administration.
And I want to just actually read very quickly what he said. Tom, criticized for the coronavirus response, Trump points to the Obama administration.
And I want to just actually read very quickly what he said.
He said,
The Obama administration made a decision on testing that turned out to be very detrimental to what we're doing,
and we undid that decision a few days ago
so the testing could take place
in a much more accurate and rapid fashion.
That was a decision we disagreed with.
I don't think we would have made it,
but for some reason it was made,
but we've undone that decision.
He does not, he's not referring to anything. Nobody knows what he's talking about. There is
no decision. Nobody knows. None of the public health authorities that have been asked what
decision, what policy was reversed. He just made that up the same way he makes up. He'll do this
a lot. He'll say, I was talking to a friend who said, Mr. Trump, your dick is enormous and you're
so amazing. I won Michigan man of the year. Right. And they're like, there's no Michigan man of the
year that doesn't exist. And he'll just say it. Yeah. I, they reversed the decision. And it's
the reason things were slow is because I had to reverse. And since his, since his, he's always
so doing so many things, he thinks people won't look right. He'll just be able to say it out loud
and there's no check. And people say, well, what was the decision? Oh, I didn't expect a follow doing so many things, he thinks people won't look. He'll just be able to say it out loud,
and there's no check. And people say, well, what was the decision? Oh, I didn't expect a follow-up question. I'll just be quiet about it now. Well, and it's crazy because we've called
him on the carpet on this shit a million times. The Times is calling him on the carpet on this
thing. Nobody knows what you're talking about. What decision? Why won't you say what the decision
was? Why wouldn't you have reversed that bad decision three years ago?
Why did you fire the entire pandemic response team?
Like, what are you actually, like, if you did something, you can say what you did, but you didn't do anything.
Right.
You just, you reacted slowly and you're not reacting in the right way.
And you want to be like, well, I had all this work to undo before I could do the work now.
Yeah.
But now you've got my attention.
You tell those assholes, it is plural,
you tell them that I may not be back tomorrow,
but I will return like an angry Jesus
raining down blood and filth and terror
on all those who betrayed me.
Classic Jesus.
You mess with his money, he fucks you right up.
This story is from the Friendly Atheist blog over at the Patheos.
Christian mother tries defending her guide to hitting kids.
Here's something she says in the guide.
Quote, it has to hurt.
So I think the best thing to do is to read some of the things from her guide here, right?
So this first one is in reference to, to i guess her beating someone for four straight hours
we had to spank she wrote spark but we had to spark her kitchen well it depends i mean if you
put one of those emery boards on their ass you smack a match against it it'll spark it she just
sparking a lighter against them for four hours and she comes in. She's, Timmy, you've been very bad. And she pulls out the jumper cables
and clips one on his ear.
She's just Marie Kondo,
the parent.
She's like,
you don't spark joy.
She donates him.
She vacuum seals the kid
and throws him away.
She folds him very neatly.
Oh, very neatly first.
And then thanks him.
Puts him in the garbage.
Did you watch that show?
I've watched all of them.
That is,
I turned it off after the first episode.
Really?
I literally couldn't do it.
I hate that woman.
Why?
She like fucking talks to clothes.
That's why, Tom.
She's crazy, Tom.
That's why I hate her.
It's real easy.
She's insane.
She's a crazy person
thank you
thank you
close
fuck you
you're nuts
you're a psycho
and like all the people
she walks in
and she says
no your clothes
are unhappy
and I'm like
you're a crazy person
get out of my house
I turned it off
I couldn't turn it off
fast enough
I love it
oh I hated her so much
I could not stand her
I was like no you people you people, all you people.
And the thing is, it's a nutcase, and then everybody's nodding.
And I'm thinking, what are you nodding about?
She's a crazy person.
I don't know if she really believes she's talking to the closer,
or if it's just a metaphor for a way to release your attachment to things.
Apologist.
You're an apologist. You're a Marie
Kondo apologist. I like her. She's a psychopath. I like getting rid of stuff. I do too. I love the
idea of like having, I don't need, I don't need a little Asian to make me get rid of stuff. I get
rid of shit all the time. We give, well, we give away all kinds of stuff all the time. We actually
went through a few weeks ago, maybe, maybe five or six weeks ago. We called it Marie Kondo-ing.
We're doing like room by room.
We did our kitchen.
Yeah.
And like,
we got rid of
eight or nine big boxes.
Sure.
Full of stuff.
Stuff I like.
I was just like,
I like this.
And I'm like,
I haven't used it in three years.
Yeah.
But I don't like it that much.
I don't,
you know,
I actually don't need this.
I do the same thing all the time.
So it's a nice,
I understand the impulse
for the process and I appreciate that minimalism as a
lifestyle and I'm bad at it.
Yeah.
So like,
I have to be reminded sometimes to like,
like,
I'll give you a great example.
The other day I was at the grocery store and they had like,
um,
they had Guinness blonde and they were samples.
Right.
So I sampled it and I actually liked it and I was shocked.
So I was like,
Oh,
I've never tried it.
Oh,
really good. It's kind of citrusy. And I was like, I I was like, oh, I've never tried it. It's really good.
It's kind of citrusy.
And I was like, I'll grab it.
But not like actually citrusy, just citrus coming from the, anyway.
So I grabbed a six pack.
I was like, oh, if you're buying it, you get like a glass.
And we'll add your name on this, like pint glass.
And instinctively I reached out for it, right?
And then I was like, I don't need a pint glass.
I'll throw it away.
You're going to hand it to me.
I'm going to put it in my kitchen cabinet.
I'm going to have it for six years.
It's going to move with me three times in my life.
And I'm going to pack it very carefully
so I can put it in a different cabinet.
And never look at it.
And never use it.
Never look at it.
So I was like,
I don't actually need that shit.
But I just,
my whole life,
I'm just like reflectively reaching
for things people offer.
Yeah, because they give it to you.
Right.
Sure, makes sense.
Somebody offered me a flashlight
at a seminar I was at the other day.
I had to give a seminar.
There was giveaways.
Like, oh, do you want one of our giveaways?
And I reached out for this cheap plastic flashlight.
And I was just like, I don't need that at all.
What do I need it for?
Like, I slapped my own hand.
You're going to throw it away later.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
So we had to spank each of our children for around four hours one time.
It's all it took.
And then they knew that they weren't the boss
and they were to obey us.
Could you imagine beating it?
I mean, at that point,
you might as well just ship them off to Guantanamo Bay.
Four hours.
Yeah.
I mean, that's enhanced interrogation right there.
Right?
That's what that is.
Why not waterboard them for one?
Save yourself three hours.
Goddamn.
Four hour beating
like at some point you're like taking a rest yeah you're like your hand hurts you're just like
sweating it's like hour two and a half have you ever had to uh you know like when you when you
have guests coming over and you clean your whole house and it takes an hour and a half or something
and you're tired after that right could you imagine beating someone for four straight hours? Four hours? Four hours.
Jesus.
Everybody's, look,
there's nothing fun at four hours.
Like, I don't care how fucking
Kama Sutra you want to get on anything.
Nothing is fun at four hours.
And what kind of vendetta
did you have against this child?
Right.
What could they have possibly done
that warranted four hours of beatings?
What, did they kill your mom?
Right.
What the fuck did they do?
I spent your retirement fund and killed a baby.
Like, still, two hours.
They could be doing fucking crystal meth hits
off the fucking back of the babysitter's ass.
Still don't beat him for four straight hours.
The fuck are you talking about?
Four hours.
And then she's like, and that did it.
Then they knew who the boss was.
I fucking bet they figured that out the first.
Can you imagine being beaten for 20 minutes?
15 minutes.
My dad, only a couple of times.
My dad hit me with a belt a couple of times.
But more often, babysitters
would... I can't imagine being
swatted. Now when I think about how much time
did that take? 20 seconds?
Yeah, 10 seconds.
My dad used to count
them out. He'd say, you're getting, you know, six licks or whatever.
And then he'd hit me with the belt six times.
Like, if it's like one per second for four hours,
I'm just curious.
Okay.
All right, I'm going to give him one every two seconds,
one every three seconds.
He's got to get tired.
You know.
Yeah.
So, you know, you've got four hours.
That's why you're a minute.
And divide by three.
You're hitting that kid 4,800 times.
Can you imagine doing a single exercise 4,000 reps?
Right.
Yeah, right?
I don't care what it is.
I don't care what it is.
No, no.
I don't care if it's just lifting your arm 4,000 times.
Like clicking a pencil.
Yeah.
Your thumb would be all sore.
You'd be like, oh.
Oh, my body's shitty. And your body's shittier. Goddamn. All right. So she Your thumb would be all sore. You'd be like, oh, my body's shitty
and your body's shittier.
God damn.
All right.
So she goes on
with her great advice.
Have a special place
that you can put him
as far away
from your husband's bedroom
as possible.
Okay,
we got to pause here.
Yeah.
I got to ask why
a husband has a different bedroom.
Okay.
No,
that's,
that is,
that is okay.
Yeah,
no,
you're right.
I missed that
on the first reading.
Your husband's bedroom.
But that's the weird,
I got to take care of my husband
because he's the breadwinner stuff
that's creepy and weird
about these whole relationships.
And the, like,
the taking care of the children
has to be like,
I don't want him to see
that I'm taking care of the kid.
Yeah.
He so doesn't have to deal with this
that I'm going to do it away
from his special bedroom
of forbidden mystery. Yeah. He doesn't like the kid, but it doesn't, and he really doesn't have to deal with this, that I'm going to do it away from his special bedroom of forbidden mystery.
Yeah.
He doesn't like the kid,
but it doesn't,
and he really doesn't want to hear
the kid screaming
while I'm trying to drown it either.
Right.
Yeah.
Nobody wants to listen to this shit
for four straight hours.
Can you imagine,
you turn on Lord of the Rings
and it's over
and someone's still hitting your kid
in the other room?
Oh my God.
All right.
So,
Benjamin Sousa,
it's possible,
put a little chair there
or it could even be a corner
in a room. As soon as he starts crying,
as soon as he starts crying,
tell him to go to that place and sit there until he can
control himself. Okay, no, hold on a second.
Now, having your child
go to a place to
give them a punishment to make them
stand somewhere is a perfectly acceptable
punishment. Although, I don't think you should
punish crying. No, I don't think so either.
I know you're not saying that, but like, I love that this example, it's like, if that
kid starts crying, give him something to cry about.
And that's exactly, I mean, literally.
Yeah.
So if he gets up, smack him hard.
It has to hurt a lot, a lot.
Or it will do him no good and tell him to go back to his special place.
He must sit there until he can get control of his emotions,
which you'll help him do by being his caregiver that hits him.
Yeah, I know.
Like, you should be sitting in the special place, stupid.
You're the one who can't control your emotions.
Fucking figure it out.
Like, my kid's crying.
Should I comfort him or beat him until he's not crying anymore?
In what world do you hit people until they're not crying?
My dad used
to say that, though. My dad was
the exact same thing. He's like, I'll give you something to cry
about if you keep crying. And you'd have to
stifle your crying, even though you're hurt
and you're crying. He'd still have to stifle it.
It's because it's a fucking autocratic
shitty thing to do to a kid. But that's
why. And that's why you're a soulless,
dead-hearted human being.
You know, you think about it.
I think about it too.
It's like my dad,
my dad was pretty brutal
when it came to beatings
and he was,
he was an alcoholic,
so he was shitty
and, you know,
he was mean.
And so I got,
I got beat up a lot as a kid
and I recognized
once I was an adult
pretty early on
that I didn't want to have kids.
And I knew that I didn't have
the patience for children.
I knew that, I knew things about me. Sure. When I'm around kids, I don't
have patience for kids. I don't, I don't, the kid comes around, the kid's asshole. I don't want to
be around the kid. The kid's fucking literally dead to me. Just like, get away from me. You're
an awful thing. I don't need to, I don't need to like you. I don't need to love you. I don't need
to be around you. Go away. Like they're an absolute, kids are an absolute nuisance to me. Right. And most of the time, like, don't get me wrong. Some kids can be really sweet
and they can be great, but if they're shitty, I don't want to fucking be around them. I don't
know how much there's a reason I didn't have them. Right. There's a reason. And it's like,
like, I understand being frustrated with children. 100% understand being frustrated with children.
I, what I don't understand is why you, A, chose to have them
if you're clearly
that fucking imbalanced
that you're that
hyper nutty
where you get crazy
and you have to swing at things
when you're frustrated.
That's number one.
And number two,
you know,
this is on you.
You fucking made this
fucking bet
and you can't control yourself.
Yeah.
I like,
there is no world
where like
the right way
to make somebody feel
better is beating
them. That's so bizarre.
She goes on, we used a foot
long strap. As soon as he begins
having a temper tantrum, spank him hard
on the bottom. If he continues to have
a tantrum, keep spanking him on the bottom until
it completely stops with breaks in
between and telling him to stop.
Just imagine that.
You've got a tantrum.
You've got a kid
who's having a tantrum.
She's having the tantrum.
And you,
yes,
you respond with a bigger,
more violent tantrum.
Yes,
your tantrum.
Yeah.
And your tantrum is scarier
because like,
these are kids.
You're 10 times stronger
than a kid.
Absolutely.
You're bigger,
more powerful,
but also like,
the amount of emotional
like,
investment people have
in their moms have in their
moms and in their dads, the trust that they place in them. It's fucking huge and it's unconditional.
And you're responding by beating the shit out of them with a strap. And it's, and this is all
based on the Bible, all the Bible bullshit, right? This is a, this is a woman who is steeped in the
Bible and steeped in that culture. And there's a group of people out there who think that a fucking 3,000-year-old book, 4,000, whatever fucking, I don't even care how old it is.
That book is a fucking way, it's a fucking model for them to parent.
Yeah.
It's a garbage book.
They didn't even know fucking how pigs worked back then.
Please enjoy this clip from last Thursday's live stream.
Fuck Roy Moore in his fuckity fuck fuck face.
So, uh, Roy Moore, uh, lost.
Good, you fucker.
And there's a runoff with Sessions.
So it's not even like Sessions, it's not even like Sessions won the fucking, the primary down there to be the senator.
Nope.
To win back his own Senate seat.
Nope.
He's in a runoff.
And Roy Moore got 6% of the vote.
Fucking asshole.
Couldn't have happened to a worse guy.
6%.
Yeah.
That is just unreal.
Even, there's a moment where you're like, even Alabama has standards.
Yeah.
Who'd have thunk that?
That ruined Roy Moore.
The coming out of those people
and all that stuff
that happened to him last time,
that ruined him.
Ruined him.
Good.
Yeah.
Good,
because he was a disgusting
human being before.
He'll never recover.
And he's still,
it's not that he's less disgusting now,
but he's less dangerous.
Right.
Yeah.
Right.
That's good news.
Jeff Sessions has a runoff
with Tommy Tuberville.
Tommy Tuberville?
Tommy Tuberville.
That's a fake name. Tommy Tuberville. Tommy Tuberville? Tommy Tuberville. That's a fake name.
Tommy Tuberville sounds like a gardening show on HGTV.
Tuberville.
It was like a kid's show about like Potato Town.
Exactly.
Yeah, you go to Potato Town.
Tommy Tuberville.
Tommy Tuberville.
He's got big sweet potatoes for shooting.
I'm Tommy Tuberville.
Look at me.
Oh no.
Are there golfers
in my tuba patch?
What?
Oh God.
I love it.
Oh,
so good.
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So we got a message.
This is from Barry.
And Barry sent us a message.
And it says, holy water.
It's a, what do they call those?
A font, a baptizable font, or some kind of holy water. It's a, it's a, what do they call those? A font?
A baptismal font or some kind of
holy water dispensary thing
that they have at a church.
It's a Jesus water font.
Yeah.
Holy water removed
to reduce the risk
of spreading viral illness.
Did you see the pictures this week
of the people in Iran
licking a wall?
Yes.
Did you see this?
Yeah.
That is insanity.
What is wrong with insanity?
And they think it's going to protect them from their virus.
I'm going to do the thing that is most likely to transmit disease.
Like seriously,
that's like fucking to not be pregnant.
Right?
No,
I know.
It's like,
it's like rubbing yourself against the infected.
What are in the world?
Are you fucking doing?
Unbelievable.
The irony of this
unbelievable is just amazing thank you very amazing i love it so much thank you
uh we got a message uh this one is from uh chad and chad said i'm behind on the podcast but you
mentioned acquiring a zagnut bar he sent a link zagnut's fucking sold out how is zagnut
sold out and one of the the things I started reading it
and it says
the nut part
either comes from
the coconut coating
or the peanut center.
That sounds foul,
by the way.
Wait a minute.
What do you mean,
or?
What do you mean,
or?
It comes from one
or the other.
We haven't decided
which the nut part.
Come on.
Coconut peanut butter
doesn't sound good together.
Coconut and peanut butter
sounds kind of awful
I still want to eat one though
you want to try a Zagnut
I do want to try a Zagnut
we'll try a Zagnut eventually
we'll just ask Noah
to break into his stash
of his old timey candy bars
that he keeps
guaranteed that he keeps
how
if it's that bad
why was it in production
for so long
I know right
yeah
right
I guess
I don't know
so thanks Chad
thanks for sending the link
got a message from
this is from Regina
and Regina let us know.
She,
she wrote a big long email
about what a narcissist is.
And then she basically said,
that's Trump.
And she's absolutely right.
One of the things
that she mentions is,
is that the narcissist
will make everything
about themselves.
And Trump has never
not made anything about him.
There's a hundred percent
of the time.
Everything is about him. Everything. Every% of the time everything is about him.
Everything.
Every sentence out of his mouth,
he redirects into how great he is
or how somebody did him wrong, right?
Yep.
So, and she says Trump is the dark triad.
It's the nexus of narcissism,
psychopathy, and Machiavellian traits.
Yeah, gosh.
I don't disagree.
I don't disagree either.
We got a message from Jeff who said
he spent a lot of time in Evansville, not by choice.
And he said
that... I think you just say in Evansville.
Like, who's been in Evansville
on purpose? But he sent us a picture of
a sign. And this is a sign
from a bar.
And the bar, I'm going to
start from the bottom and go up. So the bar
on Sunday is Bloody Sunday,
$5 Bloody Marys.
Okay, that's fine.
That's very typical.
Shelly Saturday is $15 pitch, $15 pitchers of Shelly American Light Lager.
Never heard of it.
Don't know what it is.
No idea.
$15 seems excessive for a pitcher.
Most pitcher beer is garbage beer.
Garbage beer.
You're not drinking anything good by the pitcher.
Fireball Friday is $3 fireball shots.
Thirsty Thursday is $3 craft pints, bartender choice.
That's not bad.
I want to do that.
Bartender's choice though?
Yeah, that's true.
It could be like fucking, I don't know.
Why do I get to choose?
Why do I, I just, I'm so cheap.
It's like, I want craft beer, but I don't know which one.
What?
This is where it goes to shit.
Whiskey Wednesday is $5 whiskey drinks.
Let me tell you, whiskey drinks, you know that that whiskey is not good fucking even remotely good whiskey.
That's a fucking crown royal.
If they're, guaranteed.
If there is anything worse than well whiskey? Like the fucking cheap plastic bottle
whiskey. That shit is
and then they're making like a fucking
mixed drink out of it? Yeah.
Are you fucking kidding me? Absolutely.
Fuck Whiskey Wednesday forever.
$2 Tuesdays, $2 domestics.
That's actually the best one. That's not bad. That's the best one
because you can be like, yeah, I'll get that
awful Michelob light or whatever, but at
least you know what you're getting. Yeah, right.
What is happening here?
Fucking shit.
What is wrong with Monday?
Monday is Malort Monday.
If Mondays aren't bad enough, right?
What?
Monday's already
the worst day of the week.
If you want a case of the Mondays,
Yeah, no shit.
you go to whatever
horror show bar this is.
$2 Malort shots.
Oh, God, it's so bad.
What's a $2 Chicago handshake?
I have no idea.
Oh God,
I don't,
I don't even want to,
what do they,
pour it in your asshole?
It probably tastes better.
Thanks for sending it in,
Jeff.
Malort shots.
How desperate
to be drunk are you
that you're like,
I'm going to
Malort my ass.
Just drink cough syrup.
Just drink cough syrup.
That's what you need.
Boil down some
Robitussin.
I've had some fucking dark days in my life, but I have never
been like, I want to forget a day
so hard. I'm drinking cheap Malort.
I'd rather shoot heroin into my eye.
Are you kidding me?
Okay. So
we have a correction to make last week.
Oh yeah. Tom said
the word Eskimo, and Eskimo is
not an acceptable term anymore,
especially if you're in Canada.
It is, I guess, an unacceptable term.
From what I've read, Inuit is the correct term.
So if you're out there and you're listening,
Eskimo is not, Eskimo is out.
You shouldn't say that.
Inuit is how you should refer to people
that are of native tribes
of the northern part of our continent.
Yeah.
I literally had no idea.
I had no idea either.
I had never heard that until right now.
Yeah.
And I'm sorry about it.
And I won't,
I am.
You're sorry, eh?
I am real sorry.
I'm sorry all about it.
But no, I am.
I didn't know.
I did not mean anything by it.
It was an ignorant statement,
literally stemming from a lack of knowledge.
From ignorance, right?
So I'm sorry,
and I will strike that term from my vocabulary.
And while we're speaking about Inuits,
we were on Left at the Valley this week.
We were.
And so we're going to put a link in this week's show notes.
Great group of people there.
Really funny.
We had a great time.
They're a fun podcast,
so check them out.
Left at the Valley.
And we will be on their show,
I think, releasing.
By the time this wide release is on Monday,
we should have released on their show.
We had a fun time.
We talked about a bunch of funny stories,
so check it out on their podcast.
Nice guys.
And gals.
And gals.
Nice people.
I was using guys in an inclusive way.
Okay.
You were using-
I didn't mean it that way.
They were Inuit gals. They were Inuit gals.
They were Inuit gals.
God damn it.
Just meant that they were a nice group of people.
We got a message from Liz and glorious Baxter.
I think and glorious Baxter came to our pizza party.
I think so.
So it was fun to meet you and glorious Baxter at our pizza party.
And in glorious Baxter,
let us know that she wound up going to a bunch of,
but taking out a bunch of engines,
the engines for model rockets,
making a pipe bomb.
Just for fucking real.
Jesus Christ.
Make pipe bombs in your akin.
So I had a friend who hollowed out a bunch of shotgun shells,
cut a bunch of shotgun shells,
cut the tops off them,
poured a bunch
and did make a pipe bomb
and then let it off
in the alley
behind where they were.
It was a motorcycle shop.
Let it off in the alley
and it exploded
and it fucked the building up.
I mean,
it fucking scarred the building.
Yeah.
It fucking,
because it,
I mean,
it was a fucking pipe bomb
made out of galvanite.
I mean,
it was made out of gunpowder. It's like an, it's like a fucking, like an anarchist cookbook bomb. Yeah. Yeah. It fucking, because it, I mean, it was a fucking pipe bomb made out of galvanite. I mean, it was made out of gunpowder.
It's like an,
it's like a fucking,
like an anarchist cookbook bomb.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is astonishing
how much power,
like how much power
a small homemade bullshit pipe bomb
can make.
Like,
we did that,
I did that when I was a teenager
and like,
I didn't do gunpowder,
but we did match heads.
And like,
Match heads,
huh?
Yeah.
You can take,
you can take match heads from like regular, not strike anywhere. Don't do gunpowder, but we did match heads. And like- Match heads, huh? Yeah, you can take match heads
from like regular-
Don't do this at home.
Not strike anywhere.
Don't do this at all.
But like the regular like book matches
and you cut them all off
and you push them down
and compress them.
And then you put them,
screw them into a PVC pipe
and you make a pipe bomb out of it.
And like me and my buddy
made a couple of pipe bombs.
No shit.
And it is exciting,
but it is stupid dangerous.
It absolutely is not something to do.
It'll kill you.
It can kill you.
It can absolutely kill you.
And you can be far away.
You can be far away and it can kill you.
We all ran inside and were hiding inside when it went off.
Yeah.
So we weren't like standing around it like idiots,
but there are people who like pipe bombs off
and are standing right.
And the shrapnel can kill you.
That shrapnel can literally kill you.
You were telling me that guy lost his leg
from shooting a fridge with that shit that's in it.
Oh, yeah.
What is it called?
I don't know.
It's like thermite or something like that.
It's some stupid shit that you can shoot
that should not be legal but is.
And the reason it's legal is because
it's not an explosive unless you shoot it.
And it's just like,
well, that's a weird out to have.
It's not dead unless you shoot it either.
But what the fuck is it called? Anyway, yeah. There's a, there's video of this dude and he shoots a lawn
mower and he's got an AR 15 and he's shooting at all tactical style. And he's getting closer as if
like he's creeping up on the bad guy or whatever fucking fake garbage army war game bullshit he's
playing in the woods. And he shoots this thing and the thing blows up
and it just,
it takes his leg right off
in a split second.
His leg is just gone.
He's like,
oh God, my leg.
There's blood all over the camera
and everything.
It's pretty gruesome.
Yeah, yeah.
And it's perfectly,
Tannerite is what it's called.
Tannerite, yeah.
Perfectly legal in many states.
The guy's name is Tanner.
It's name is true.
Right?
Yeah.
We got a bunch of messages about this.
This is from Douglas,
but I think a couple other people sent this in.
I guess up in Alberta, Canada,
they put out some stickers.
This company, this energy company,
Xsite Energy, an Albertan oil and gas company,
basically took these stickers
that say Greta on them.
And it looks like somebody is
basically riding her from behind.
It's a silhouette,
one of those silhouettes
that looks like it's grabbing someone's pigtails
and riding them from behind.
So it's a disgusting,
shitty attack on Greta Thunberg,
who's a minor.
Who's a child.
Yeah, who's a minor.
Yeah, it's absolutely gross. There's a child. Yeah, who's a minor. Yeah, it's absolutely gross.
There's a bunch of stories
about this company out there
and three of them here,
one from Gizmodo
and a couple other places.
But we got a bunch of messages about this.
That's absolutely gross and disgusting.
And it shows the mentality
of the people who work there
and who run this place.
It's just a gross group
of conservative shitbags
that want to attack a young girl
because she has a different standpoint.
And they think that attacking her means raping her.
Yeah.
Your ideas, I disagree with your ideas.
And my counter argument is I would rape a child
to show you how much I disagree with those ideas.
That's the kind of human being you are not.
Yeah.
Great.
That's awesome.
Glad we live in this world.
Well,
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Yes, it is.
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