Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 559: The Coup Crew

Episode Date: January 11, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of Cognitive Dissonance is brought to you by our patrons. You fucking rock. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. recording live from six seven days into 2021. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, Tom. Holy shit. 2021 goes hard in the paint. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Goes hard in the fucking paint, baby. Fucking right off the bat. God, damn. Holy shit. Shit. This is still cognitive dissonance. Every episode, we bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news,
Starting point is 00:01:12 makes it big, or makes us mad. There's a lot of those things this week. It's skeptical. It's political, and it always fucking has been. And it's going to be this week. And there is no welcome at. This is episode 559. And if you thought you were going to get a fucking reprieve.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Here, we have so much to talk about, but we only have 20 fucking days of 2021 that Trump was in charge of. 20 fucking days. When you give your two-week notice you slack the fuck off for your two-week note what are you doing you what world are you living and we only have to get through 20 fucking days four four years of the last decade and he didn't fuck things up that bad in that long a time in comparison to this.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Well, I take that back. The COVID thing has been pretty bad. But yeah, that's been a disaster. I mean, actually, you know, I was reading something the other day. I think maybe it was something you posted from National Review, but I don't remember. I was reading something the other day, and they were just talking about some of the the failures and one of the things they said cecil was like the disastrous failure uh to manage the hurricane that ravaged puerto rico hurricane maria that killed thousands and i thought oh oh that did have like that that was such a big deal when it was such a big deal
Starting point is 00:02:41 thousands died and i fucking flat out forgot about that shit. When Cecil and I were getting ready for the show this week, I called him, as I put it, like a psychopath. Out of the blue, not even a text message. Genuinely like a psychopath. He didn't warn me at all. He just called me. Guys, okay, introverts out there,
Starting point is 00:03:00 I'm talking directly to you. Imagine your phone rang out of the blue. Just imagine it. I have done that to you. Imagine your phone rang out of the blue. Just imagine it. I have done that to everybody at this point. Like everybody I'm connected with, I'll just be like, oh, I got to talk to that person. And I'll just pick up and call like it's 1999, baby.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Like it's 1990s. What are you doing, Tom? I'm just like, bing, bing. You need to send a message. Bring your fucking phone, bitch. You got to send a text message first and it says,
Starting point is 00:03:24 are you free to talk? And if you say yes, is now a good time? You have to send a message. Bring your fucking phone, bitch. You got to send a text message first, and it says, are you free to talk? And if you say yes, is now a good time? You have to do two texts. I'm not asking. I'm not sending you two messages. You need two texts minimum to call me on the phone. Motherfucker, we have been friends for 21 years. I can call your ass.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Oh, man. Oh, fuck. Seriously, Tuesday. Tuesday, guys. oh man oh fuck but seriously tuesday tuesday guys i call cecil in the afternoon late afternoon not 11 40 late afternoon i call cecil i'm like holy shit i just listened to the full audio of the of the uh call to the georgia uh secretary of state You've got to listen to this thing. It's fucking total batshit. I need somebody to hear this. Now, this call took place on the 2nd. Right? So the call took place
Starting point is 00:04:14 on the 2nd. The media learned about it, I think, the day or the day after that. And then the full transcript was released by the Washington Post. And this story is dated on the 5th. So that's Tuesday. We are living in a world where we record on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:04:31 This show will release on Monday. I mean, effectively, the earth will be reduced to fucking ashes by Monday. I don't even know what, we're going to release this what? So the fucking mutant cyborgs that will rule the earth in three days can listen to the fucking thing. Are you fucking kidding me?
Starting point is 00:04:47 The big story this week was supposed to be the fucking pressuring the goddamn Georgia secretary of state to overturn the fucking election. That traitorous, seditious shit was supposed to be the big story this week. Or maybe the next big story this week should be that the Democrats regained control of the Senate with a 50 to 50 fucking margin. Like they elected the first black senator in the South in history. That's not even relevant anymore. I don't even care.
Starting point is 00:05:18 I do want to comment very quickly on that by saying that's the best $5,000 we ever spent. Oh, holy shit. So it's so funny, guys, because I actually, I'm going to call this up because I, and it's just for giggles. And please don't send me fucking emails about that's not how this fucking math works, because I still think it's fun to do.
Starting point is 00:05:37 And I want you guys to kind of just conceptualize why these fundraisers matter. The Democrats raised about $200 million in total that flowed down to the Senate race in Georgia. It's a little more than that, but it was about $200 million. They turned out around 4.4 million voters, which means they spent about $45.45 for every vote that they turned out. From our fundraiser, we raised $136,000. Almost $39,000. $138,000. Almost $139,000, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Oh, you know what, Cecil? You're right. So we raised about $138,000. If every vote cost $45.45, we produced 3,036 votes, man. That mattered. Yeah. Like that actually, like you can look at that and say,
Starting point is 00:06:31 and again, I know the math isn't quite that simplistic. It's not quite that one-to-one, but it's also not unimportant. And that's really fucking cool. That was, I was riding a high, baby. I was riding a high.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I was like, woo, great day. I mean, it's literally on the backs of the podcasters and the podcast audience that was involved, put in so much work and so much of their money to make sure that this went. And then Andrew and Thomas went with it again. And if you count all of that,
Starting point is 00:07:02 because we loaned them Ian for it and we helped them set it up and we sort of seeded it to them. You're looking at seeded in S-E-E-E-D. So we seeded the idea that you look at, you add that in, you're over $200,000. You're over $200,000 worth of, you know, 200, it's almost $220,000. Yep. And that's about 5,000 votes, 4,818 votes. And that's, and that money
Starting point is 00:07:27 went to, you know, and I, and all those people who, who, who participated and all the people who donated and all the bid, and we were a seed money in the sense that we joined in with the other people who wanted to match. So we were a match, Tom and I were a match as well as all the other people who matched initially. And it was just going to be $16,000. Tom and I were $5,000 of that, but happily spent that, you know, to, to, to try to make sure that that happened. And that was such an amazing night to hear that come in and to watch that happen and to see, you know, cause you knew Warnock was going to get it right.
Starting point is 00:08:04 It was just so weird. Such a weird thing. Anyway, Warnock was going to get it, right? Which is so weird. Such a weird thing anyway. Warnock. I would have thought it would be the other way. Wouldn't you in the beginning? I would have thought so too. But you know, what's so great about that is, you know, Warnock's coming in, no problem.
Starting point is 00:08:15 I don't know if it was that, that Leffler was so dislikable that they were choosing Warnock and then choosing Purdue. But you know, you walk in there, it's not straight ticket. It's clearly not straight ticket because people are coming in and choosing one or the other because, you know, Loeffler got less votes than Purdue
Starting point is 00:08:36 and Ossoff got less votes than Warnock. Warnock, yeah. And it just, that's how it worked out. But the next day, the votes kept coming in. And, you know, you pretty much knew the night before. You knew the night before. I knew before I went to sleep that they were both going to win, that they were pretty much destined to win.
Starting point is 00:08:53 But the morning when you wake up and you see it on BBC that one of them won and then, you know, another one was going to win for sure that day. It was a really great feeling, man, to be part of something like that. And then the next day, the whole world goes great feeling, man, to be part of something like that. And then the next day, the whole world goes to shit. What the fuck? I do want to say, Cecil, I think I figured out the hierarchy, I should say, that explains the Warnock-Ossoff difference. And it really comes down to how America treats and ranks their minorities. So obviously white man
Starting point is 00:09:27 is the easy get. Right? But underneath white man is probably black man, then white woman. Then Jew? Then Jew? Then black woman. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Well, I don't know where Jew ranks I don't know Ossoff's the Jew oh that's true yeah so isn't he a Jewish guy so okay
Starting point is 00:09:52 is he real I don't know I don't know if he's Jewish guy or not but it explains why Warnock the black guy beat Leffler
Starting point is 00:10:01 the white woman because like we're racist but we're also misogynist, and we're more misogynist than we are racist. So it's all very confusing, but the math, yeah, the multipliers. Because a woman is worth like 0.7
Starting point is 00:10:14 of a man, at least in financial terms. And I don't know what a black man is worth against a white. I'm going to need you to quit that. I got to stop. Because what I don't want you to get to is three-fifths. That's all. I just don't want to get to that point.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Well, we're progressed past that. We're progressive now. Because a woman is point, yeah. So let's start though, because we are definitely going to talk about the coup. But I think, you know, we prepared Tom. We went out of our way to listen to this entire conversation. Both Tom and I listened to the full hour conversation that Trump had with these two, the Secretary of State and his assistants in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And so, and his lawyers, Trump's lawyers were on the phone. There's like 25 people on the call. It was the worst Zoom call echo bullshit you've ever seen in your life. But Tom, let's talk about that first. And, you know, I mean, clearly we don't have to get into it too much because, you know, when you steal a car at gunpoint
Starting point is 00:11:16 and then rob a bank, they're not too worried about the shoplifting you did early in the week, but they might still prosecute you. They may still prosecute you. So let's talk about that a little bit. Man. So, and I really didn't think this was going to be the story of the week. I really, I really did. It should, by the way, be the story of a presidency incidentally, but that's ridiculous. Yeah. If you're forgetting 2000 deaths from the first
Starting point is 00:11:42 year, it's definitely not the story of a presidency. I know. I know. I know. So this fucking call. So Trump and his fucking nincompoop lawyers get on the phone. And they get on the phone with the Secretary of State and a handful of other folks from Georgia. And he is just, it is the most absurd fucking call. He's rattling off this wild list of baseless fucking conspiracy theories connected to these numbers that are no more a truth than, I mean, than the fucking tooth fairy. They are a fucking abstraction. And he belies no understanding of how numbers work,
Starting point is 00:12:22 by the way, guys, if you fucking listen to this, he'll say, he says all over and over again, he's like, we won, we won Georgia by hundreds of thousands, 100,000, 200,000, 400,000. He just inflates the number as he goes, like throughout the course of the conversation. He's like, we only need 17,889 or whatever it is. 11,780. So he's like, that's all we need.
Starting point is 00:12:43 That's all we need to find. We've got that. We've got that. We've got that. Here's. And then he starts naming these different categories of what he considers to be problematic votes. And he's like these total more than the total number of votes that in his mind he needs in order to flip Georgia, which, by the way, flipping Georgia wouldn't give him the election. Wouldn't do anything like I was listening to this the whole time. I'm like, even if we gave you Georgia, which no one's going to fucking do, it doesn't change the election.
Starting point is 00:13:11 You didn't lose by one Georgia unit. You lost by more than a Georgia. It wouldn't change anything. Anything. It's like if your car broke down because the engine was on fire and you're like, well, I got to get new tires. Yeah. Well, the engine's still on fire, motherfucker. So he's talking about like, I want these votes. There's 20,000 votes here and 6,000 votes there. And there's, you know, this one woman, she's an operative and she put these ballots in
Starting point is 00:13:41 three times and there's 18,000 votes, but she did them three times. It's 18,000 times three. And you're listening to it and none of it makes any sense at all. None of it is backed up with facts. The people from Georgia is like, that just fucking never happened. They're just like, we just, I'm not. They said at one point.
Starting point is 00:13:57 That just didn't happen. At one point, he talks about how there is a tape and the tape shows, the security camera shows, this woman comes in, takes behind votes, and then later those votes are taken and scanned. And that's the best synopsis I can make from the fucking gobbledygook that he vomited out of his mouth because it's literally unintelligible. How he speaks and how he talks. I just want to get off on a tiny tangent and say all those people who were decrying Biden all along saying he's so forgetful
Starting point is 00:14:29 and he's Alzheimer-ish, listen to this phone call for 30 minutes. He seriously does not complete a single thought. It is the most rambling, bumbling, goofy thing. He fucks up his own name with biden three or four times his own name like you're with you it's not it's not it's you you're talking about it he fucks up three or four times in a row and he has to correct himself and he catches himself i don't ever want to hear anybody say how how senile biden is in comparison. This guy's a fucking mess. He's an absolute mess. Maybe he
Starting point is 00:15:10 didn't take his Adderall that morning. I have no idea. But in any case, this idiot is talking for 10 minutes about this, uh, this, this woman who comes in and there's a tape and yada, yada, yada. And he's essentially explaining how he saw a tape that showed some sort of voter fraud. The representative who has been very forcefully since the beginning, not the actual secretary of state, but his under secretary or whatever, who's been the one who has been speaking more and more and more to the public,
Starting point is 00:15:39 came out and said, Mr. President, that tape that you've seen is edited. I have an unedited version. I showed it to the news down here. I will send it to you. I will send you the link. And immediately, the president says, I don't care about a link. I don't want your link. Yeah. Every time he's offered evidence, he's like, I don't need it. And then he moves and he's like, he moves on to another category of what he considers to be problematic votes. Because rather than engage deeply and in depth on any one topic, he just constantly is fucking shooing around.
Starting point is 00:16:12 It's a shotgun approach to try to cover as much area to try to find one weakness. It's a gish gala. It is the electoral version of a gish gala. It's just bouncing around. At one point, they tell him, like, Mr. President, the problem with all of this is that you can't just believe. This is something they're saying to the president, by the way. This is something I would say to a 10-year-old. Honestly, not a 13-year-old.
Starting point is 00:16:41 If my 13-year-old didn't know this shit, I'd fucking hit him. I wouldn't. But I'm kidding. Like, they say to him, Mr. President, you can't, well, not with a closed fist. I'd go lefty. I'd go southpaw because I don't have the,
Starting point is 00:16:56 you know, it's all clumsy. But like, he said, you know, the problem with social media is anybody can just put anything on there and it's not necessarily true. And then the president, the guy who commands and governs via Twitter fiat, literally says, I don't care about social media. That's not it. I don't use social media.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I use Trump media. What does that even mean what Trump media you governed through Twitter you have fired and hired people
Starting point is 00:17:32 he has hired people that didn't know they had applied for jobs did you remember listening to that story about a guy who found out that he was hired by the Trump administration
Starting point is 00:17:41 for a job he did not fucking apply for when he heard about it on Twitter he had to go to a press conference that he didn't even want to go to or whatever. He wasn't sure what was even happening. He's just like, fuck, I guess I have a job with the Trump administration because some guy fucking Twittered it. He doesn't use social media.
Starting point is 00:18:00 They're explaining to him that the baseless QAnon level bullshit conspiracy theory nonsense that I guess this is my ignorance, Cecil. And I remember I called you and I was I was floored by this because I realized something while I listened to that call. And what I realized is that the flow of information was not moving in the direction that I had always assumed that it had moved. not moving in the direction that I had always assumed that it had moved. And so what I mean by that is I assumed that the president and people within his administration were at least to some degree creating some of the narrative, right? Specifically around the election fraud issue. I thought they were feeding and seeding some of this into the general public. feeding and seeding some of this into the general public.
Starting point is 00:18:47 And that is only partially. And I think from this call, I think that's less true than the reality that this dumb, credulous, dipshit-ass motherfucker is trolling around the internet, finding weird shit he agrees with, and then simply amplifying that. He's not creating any information or creating any narrative or feeding into the cycle from a sort of progenitor standpoint.
Starting point is 00:19:18 He is instead simply a conduit through which bullshit passes. And once it passes through him, it becomes amplified. And then people believe it more. He adds a certain weird gravitas and credibility because of his position. But he's not the source of his own bullshit. He's just reading what other people have said about him and being like, because he is citing in this call rumors. He is citing. He's just reading what other people have said about him and being like, because he is citing in this call rumors. He is citing. He's literally saying, I don't know. It's all over. I read it all over. There's rumors that say there's 53,000 votes. Everyone knows it. Everyone hears it. Rumors of fraud. He's not got any facts. He's not got
Starting point is 00:20:02 fraud. He's not got any facts. He's not got access to dossiers or intelligence brief. I mean, he does, but he's not using any of that stuff, right? Guys, he's just some fucking crazy motherfucker. He's your crazy uncle on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:20:18 100%. Like watching weird shit on YouTube and seeing fucking weird screen caps that fucking have no context that then get fucking relabeled and photoshopped and shared around. That's the fucking president. You know what's scary about that though, Tom? Is that that makes him a perfect conduit for trolls and Russian trolls and other foreign powers. Because if they feed into his ego enough,
Starting point is 00:20:47 he will absolutely believe it. And I think what happened here was a feedback loop. Trump had always been saying since the beginning that this was going to be a rigged election. He's been saying it for years. He said it in 2016. There's tape of him saying, if I lose, it's rigged. It's out there.
Starting point is 00:21:02 You can find it. And he's been saying it for months at this point. If I lose, it's rigged. If I lose, it's rigged. It's, it's out there. You can find it. And he's been saying it for months at this point. If I lose it's rigged, if I, if I lose it's rigged, well now what happens is, is he sees it as rigged. So he, he says that to the audience. Now the audience finds a way to try to prove that to him, to try to say to him, you're right, Mr. President, here's this weird piece of tape that I found. You're right, Mr. President. And so now there's this weird feedback loop. He's like his own human centipede. He has sucked his own face onto his own asshole, and he is shitting out and then swallowing his own shit.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Yeah, it is genuinely unreal. You know, when you encounter somebody online and you realize like, holy fuck, man, do you not Snopes anything? Do you not like, you don't fact check any, you just, you see, this is your fucking, this is a guy who sees memes, man. The president of the United States is that easily manipulatable? And the thing that made me upset, the thing that I, that I, that I was floored by is he was always this way from the beginning. We got off so easy guys. I, I, this is going to come out and we're going to have like 10, 11, 12 days left to this guy. And, and I, and I am not making this up because as bad as it has been for the last four years, when you listen to this tape and you realize just how incredibly deep the level of narcissistic, ignorant bullshit that he relies on in order to feed himself, that there's nothing, there's nothing moving out from him that
Starting point is 00:22:43 doesn't originate from some, but this is the best it could have been. This is the best in the world. It could have been so much worse, guys. It should have been by all rights. It should have been so much worse because we had the dumbest person on your Facebook feed. Think about the dumbest motherfucker on your Facebook feed right now. That's the guy we hired. We got off easy. We didn't get into a big
Starting point is 00:23:08 war with anybody. 12 days, so fucking knock on wood. Fingers crossed. Don't break any windows or whatever. But like we didn't get any big wars. Like no I mean, I don't want to say no catastrophes. The catastrophes
Starting point is 00:23:24 could have been bigger ones. I mean, they were awful. Everything say no catastrophes. The catastrophes could have been bigger ones. I mean, they were awful. Everything about it was awful. But we got off easy, all things considered. I agree. That's an unbelievable thing to say. I agree. You know, you hear this tape, you listen to this,
Starting point is 00:23:36 and I cannot plumb the depths of his stupidity. It is so shockingly stupid. There were times I literally cackled out loud listening to how just clinically fucking stupid this person is. And then to hear his lawyers say the same thing. You know, the only lawyer on it that I actually thought was actually trying to get the bottom of something was the lawyer who spoke near the end.
Starting point is 00:24:02 He had said, look, here's four different things. He had a quantitative thing and he wanted to find out whether or not this was a thing that fell apart. So this lawyer jumps in and says, look, and this is one of Trump's lawyers. He jumps in and says, look, we have four different sets of numbers.
Starting point is 00:24:19 You clearly don't want to share your numbers with us, but can we at least go over our concerns? And then Trump immediately says, no, we want you to share your numbers and you got to share your data with us, but can we at least go over our concerns? And then Trump immediately says, no, we want you to share your numbers and you got to share your data with us. And he's going on and on and on. And then the guys are pushing back, essentially saying,
Starting point is 00:24:30 we're not going to share our data with you. We don't have to share our data with you. We shouldn't have to share our data with you. It's against the law in some cases to share our data with you. So we're not going to do it. And there's this fight that he keeps on and he keeps on trying to push them.
Starting point is 00:24:43 And I got to ask you this, Tom, because the whole time I'm sitting there thinking this. I work as the Secretary of State or as this other guy by the pleasure of the people of Georgia, right? So the people of Georgia voted for me to get into office or they voted for my boss who then hired me.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I don't fucking work for you, man. You're a fucking dude. Okay. I ran a thing that had you as part of the main attraction, but you're not my fucking boss. And so the moment he starts fucking ragging on them and like essentially calling them out and calling them, essentially calling them incompetent on the phone multiple times, many, many times, calling them incompetent on the phone multiple times, many, many times, I thought to myself, I would tell you to find the biggest fucking dildo and shove it down your mouth and choke to death if that was me. I could not imagine sitting on that call and eating that much shit for somebody who doesn't pay my bills. I couldn't, it doesn't even, my brain didn't even,
Starting point is 00:25:44 I'm going to tell you a story. When I was a fucking kid, I was 16 years old, 17 years old. I got my first job at McDonald's. I'm in the back of this fucking McDonald's and this old guy, it was Saturday morning, I'm working and I'm washing dishes
Starting point is 00:25:58 and this old guy who was working the register comes back. It's just 1030, things just switched around. This was just when McDonald's added cinnamon rolls to their thing. He comes back with six cinnamon rolls in a thing and he sets him down by me and he's this old, sweet old guy who's working the register. And he says, these are going to have to get thrown away or unless you want to eat some of them. And I thought, fuck, I'll eat one of those. So I jam one in my mouth and I'm still washing dishes. I go back over and I go to jam one in my mouth. And the manager walks up, this big fat lady.
Starting point is 00:26:29 She walks up. What are you doing? What do you mean? I'm washing dishes. You're not supposed to eat the food. What are you talking about? We're going to throw it away. You're supposed to throw it away.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Do not eat it anymore. And I was like, fuck you. And I left. I literally walked off. Someone told me, Tom, one time I couldn't eat a cinnamon roll and I quit. And I quit, man. Could you, I mean, I can't even put myself in these guys' shoes to be in this position. I literally can't. Well, you know, I have certainly been in positions where I
Starting point is 00:27:08 did not feel at liberty to quit jobs I wanted to quit because I have, you know, the responsibilities at home or whatever I get it. Necessitate that I have a job, right? But he can't fire you. But that's not true of the Secretary of State, right? That's what I'm saying. Like, this is a guy who, first of all, it's not like
Starting point is 00:27:23 it's either Secretary of the State or, you know i'm homeless you know there's a there's a middle ground there you don't become secretary of the state of georgia without having some contacts and some ability so it's not like if he lost the election be like well fuck that was all i had and then you know you just yeah the next week he's fucking growing a fucking shitty beer eating cheetos on the couch shooting meth into his eye. That's not happening. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Right. So, and yeah, fuck that noise. Like if I'm on a call and somebody's questioning my personal integrity, like my actual personal integrity, because this call oscillates between like simpering flattery and fucking threats.
Starting point is 00:28:05 And then like weird, weird guys, you get this insight into Trump's mind because when he does try to cajole somebody, here's something I've learned, is that people will try to convince you when somebody is trying to sell you of something or sell you something, very often what they will do is they will try to use as cajoling tactics the things that they
Starting point is 00:28:29 themselves would be motivated by, right? Because we tend to universalize our own experiences. So people will tell you a lot about what motivates them by how they try to sell something to you, right? So when Trump is trying to cajole the Secretary of State into taking action, he says things like, you know, nobody's going to like you. Nobody's going to like you. The people don't like you. I'm telling you, the people.
Starting point is 00:28:56 And what he is saying is, I am afraid that people won't like me. That's what he's saying. The most important thing that you should be worried about is whether or not people like you. because I think that using that is threatening. Right. It's it's very it's it's it's incredibly revealing, actually, about the person doing the cajole to see what tools they use, especially when they use nonstandard tools. So I thought that was really interesting when he's oscillating between this like flattery, you know, uh, you know, I, I know that you want to do the right thing. You want to do the right
Starting point is 00:29:29 thing. I know you do. You want to find the truth out. And then 10 seconds later, he's like, nobody, you know, I'll tell you, I'll tell you what nobody likes. Nobody's going to hire you. Nobody's going to like you. Uh, the people have turned on you and they're right to turn on you. He it's crazy. on you. They're right to turn on you. It's crazy. It's clumsy as fuck. He is about as smooth as the fucking worst used car salesman you have ever imagined in your
Starting point is 00:29:52 life. I can't imagine being on the other end of that phone call and feeling genuinely browbeat. That's the intent of that call. He's calling them corrupt multiple times throughout. I cannot imagine sitting on that call and eating that bag of shit i just can't it doesn't make any sense to me even if i was a you know a republican
Starting point is 00:30:13 and that was my guy anyway that that call though this week where he's begging for them to flip fucking 11 000 votes was the big news yeah yeah it was until right and then the next big news was supposed to be the georgia runoff yeah the georgia runoff see so would have been the next big political news big week should have been a big week no that same fucking day as the georgia runoff is finalized in the same day we have a fucking we have a an insurrection a coup yeah a violent protest spilling into the capitol building what the fuck happened cecil well holy fucking shit tuned him up it was him man they came all out there for him he's been talking about this fucking day tom for a month, maybe a month.
Starting point is 00:31:07 He comes out. He stands in front of the crowd. He tunes him up. He says, you know, sometimes you just got to be strong. You don't want to give up. You got to be strong. His son comes out and says, you got to fight. And then fucking Rudy Giuliani comes out and fucking old timey challenges other people to fucking trial by combat or whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I would love to watch Rudy Giuliani. Bring it, Rudy. Bring it, Rudy. Name your champion. Oh God, Rudy. Please bring it. Rudy Giuliani gets named as the Republican champion in a trial by combat.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I would, holy shit, there's no amount of money that I wouldn't give to pay for it. What I want is, I just want, I want him to have to fight somebody his age so biden goes out there and beats the shit biden would fucking school that guy could barely walk at this point his fucking jaw is too big his jowls are so big they hang down he's like nosferatu that guy he's so terrifying it's fucking weird head mascara would be they all tuned that fucking crowd up yeah and then they fucking marched on to the fucking the the to the capital and then they broke through the doors and at some point the police kind of just said go ahead i mean
Starting point is 00:32:22 genuinely the police said at a certain point there was maybe, you know, they're standing out in front of those barricades. They're standing there and they're just like, okay, go ahead. They opened, they literally opened the barricades
Starting point is 00:32:34 and let them pass. Opened the barricades. Yeah. The Capitol was breached in multiple, I was listening to the Daily this morning. The Capitol wasn't breached in one place by the mob. It was breached in multiple places by the mob.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Yeah, well, let's talk about the police for a second. Fuck the police. And this was not right. And I want to be very clear. What I was not hoping for was the same level of unmitigated police brutality that protesters for Black Lives Matter were met with. Because I don't condone police brutality. Police brutality is in and of itself its own problem.
Starting point is 00:33:15 It's not okay when it's my guys and not okay when it's your guys. We shouldn't be looking at it like that. I want to be fucking 100% clear about that. But this was always going to happen. This was, this literally was inevitable and was always inevitable.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And it was, we knew this was going to happen a week ahead of time. They said this was going to happen. It must be a special kind of duchess to not think this was going to happen. And we weren't, like the cops,
Starting point is 00:33:41 you weren't fucking prepared for this? You weren't ready? When fucking Black Lives Matter showed up around the Capitol to protest, the police presence was enormous and brutal. I'm not looking for it to be enormous, but holy shit,
Starting point is 00:33:57 you just like fucking a whole like a handful of the fucking Junior Citizens Brigade was out there. They had, when they were pepper spray, when you watch some of the video, when the crowd turns violent and they move in against the Capitol and they're breaking down the barricades and the police are trying to push back initially and they have the pepper spray, they have the little belt pepper sprays. They don't have the big crowd control pepper sprays. They're using the little, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:23 I'm an officer and I've got my own fucking pepper spray on my fucking bat utility belt, right? They're not using the big crowd control weapons. I saw, I saw an ad for it
Starting point is 00:34:32 on Wish from Facebook and I picked it up. It was a two pack and that's where I got it. Yeah, right. Seriously, where were the fucking big gun, like,
Starting point is 00:34:41 where were the fucking pepper balls and where was the, where was the fucking helicopter to fly over the crowd? What the fuck? Whenever it's Black Lives Matter, it is beanbag guns that can fracture your fucking orbital bone. It's fucking rubber bullets that can fucking leave fucking permanent scars on your body.
Starting point is 00:35:00 It's pepper balls that are shot in the face of children. It is, it is complete and total. You're talking bear spray. They're shooting bear spray at people. They are ramming cars into crowds. I watched the fucking cops here in Chicago literally drive their fucking car
Starting point is 00:35:16 through a fucking crowd for no goddamn reason whatsoever during a Black Lives Matter protest that they could have just fucking waited for a little while until the road cleared or at least wait until the guys got the people out of the road. There was no reason to drive that car through. They did it because they wanted to fucking hurt somebody that day. Those cops on that fucking rotunda, they just literally walked by. There's fucking cops getting selfies with them. There's cops inside taking selfies. There's cops that are just letting them go through. They're fist bumping, elbow bumping. They walked right fucking into this thing.
Starting point is 00:35:49 And that woman's death is on their fucking hands. That woman who fucking tried to climb in and got shot in the fucking chest by the Secret Service, that's on their hands. Those people should have never even gotten the building. There's no way they would have got, you would have put, I belong to a dork organization called the SCA. Okay. It's a fucking stupid, dumb organization where we pretend we're from the middle ages. They play fucking war games with these big shields and shit.
Starting point is 00:36:14 You put fucking six guys from the SCA at one of those doors. Nobody's getting through the door. I guarantee it. It's super easy, man. You have a door, you have a place to protect. They literally let them right in. They literally let them right in.
Starting point is 00:36:25 They literally let them right into the building. You look at fucking Standing Rock. Look at what they did to those people at fucking Standing Rock. Shooting fucking water on them in the freezing rain. There's fucking military there. There's paramilitary there. Look at what they did when Black Lives Matter
Starting point is 00:36:40 were out there before. There's paramilitary people, fucking four abreast on the fucking steps of that place. How many people they have? That fucking, that Barney Fife and his two brothers, man. Yep, this is, if we needed any more proof, I don't think that we did, but if we needed any more proof
Starting point is 00:36:58 that America has a fucking race problem, look at the way that, this is a bunch of fucking privileged ass white people protecting their political hegemony showed up and they're like, Oh, I'll fucking let them in. Let them take the fucking Capitol. Let them storm a place where the seat of power is currently working to seat the next power. Are you fucking kidding me? You didn't have, you didn't have massive fucking security, massive fucking security detail. Either you didn't think anything was going to kick off, which is utterly insane if you think that, because
Starting point is 00:37:31 Trump ahead of time was tweeting out, it's going to get wild, right? The fucking president was tweeting out, hey, the thing about Trump, man, is we weren't fooled by a duplicitous man. Trump, man, is we weren't fooled by a duplicitous man. That's the thing that makes me absolutely fucking apoplectic here. We were not fooled by a duplicitous man from the get, from the jump, and every fucking day since, Trump has telegraphed every single thing that he is and what he is about and what he means. He is not that duplicitous. Does he say things that contrast with each other? Absolutely, he does. But he is fucking fairly upfront about being a racist. He's fairly upfront about, I mean, like,
Starting point is 00:38:13 there's nothing hidden under the fucking surface about this guy. Well, you know what this snake is. We've known what this fucking snake was for four fucking years. For four years. How did you, if you like looked at Parler, if you just, if you just casually glanced at Parler at any time in the last, you know, two months, you knew they were planning shit for the fucking sixth. You knew that because they fucking said so everywhere.
Starting point is 00:38:43 This was an organized rally. People came from all over the country to attend it. It's not some thing that just popped up out of nowhere when people got upset and went outside and gathered in crowds. That's not what fucking happened. What the fuck? What the actual fuck?
Starting point is 00:38:59 The powers that be let this happen because they are complicit. That is it. They are complicit they are complicit. That is it. They are complicit and they are racist. That's it. It is 100% because like, you watch, there's a woman. Breached the fucking walls, came into the fucking building. And then there's a guy, a police officer, no shit.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Like old timey fucking, they're going to the ball. He's got his arm out and he's literally helping her down the stairs out of this fucking, you're watching it happen. You're thinking if that was anybody at one of those other protests, their teeth would be out of their mouth. And it's not that I suggest
Starting point is 00:39:39 that that's how they handle it, right? I don't think police brutality is the thing, but if you look at the difference in how they're handling it, you can tell that they are just different when it is a different color skin. You can just see it. And look, I'm not saying, I'm saying that everybody should receive the fucking kid gloves that these guys received this week, but they certainly shouldn't have been let into that building and they should have been stopped at the door. When they did finally get shoved out,
Starting point is 00:40:07 that's when they started to really push them around. And I watched a bunch of video of later on in the night where they had taken the kid gloves off and they beat the shit out of a bunch of these protesters. There's other video of them just kicking the shit out of these other protesters. So there was other, you know, again, once the cops got out of there, I guess they got their rage on later on in the evening and just beat the shit out of these other protesters. So they, there was other, you know, again, once the cops got out of there,
Starting point is 00:40:26 I guess they got their rage on later on in the evening and just beat the shit out of a bunch of them. But the other- Is it like Gremlins, man? The fucking sun goes down and the cops get fucking crazy? I want to say too, and I think that when we look at this,
Starting point is 00:40:40 one of the things that we've got to consider is that while the police are a huge problem with this, the fact that these politicians have fucking tweaked this and tuned everybody up for so long about this voter fraud thing. I want to look at those people there and I'm going to say this and I know I'm going to catch shit for it. And I know people are going to be upset when I say this because it's so hard to look across the aisle
Starting point is 00:41:16 and be empathetic. But I just want you to understand that these people are hearing from their authority figures time and time and time again that someone stole an election. They believe it. These people genuinely believe it. And so their actions, while they shouldn't be doing it, should really be rolling uphill to the people who are spreading this rumor constantly, right? These people that are constantly pushing it, especially these seditious fucks in Congress, those people should be held responsible for this
Starting point is 00:41:50 because they have been spreading this lie that the president has been basically shouting since the entire election, since the election, since he lost, he's been saying the same thing over and over and again. He's been talking about all the different places that he should have won that he didn't. And I will say this. I do not think that those people, those Republicans who are amplifying this lie over and over and over and
Starting point is 00:42:16 over and over again, I do not think that those people believe it. I don't think that they believe Trump. I think the reason why they are amplifying this lie and why they will not stop amplifying this lie, and it's played out when you hear them speak on the floor, is that they didn't want everybody to vote. They didn't want, they wanted to disenfranchise people. They wanted to keep disenfranchising people.
Starting point is 00:42:44 And so many rules and laws got put in place where we didn't do that this time. Where what we did was we opened up the voting process to make it more accessible. And that made them furious. And it made them so mad because they realized that they're not going to be able to win again
Starting point is 00:43:03 if that keeps it that way. So they want to push back again. They don't, I don't think they care one bit about Trump. I think what they care about is silencing the American people and they didn't get a chance to do that. And now they're going to try to say that elections are rigged because they will never get their way again. Yeah. I, I couldn't possibly agree more. I think mass voter registration signals for these guys the obvious death knell of the GOP. And they know it and it scares them. And I couldn't possibly agree more. I don't think they actually want Trump to be in charge. I think they just recognize that if they don't do something to get this shit under control,
Starting point is 00:43:48 that this continues to slip further and further from their grasp. What we saw last night, I think, was, you know, and I mentioned this term before, but like this was the inevitability of trolling as political strategy. Trolling is violence, right? And trolling can only yield violence. That's its intention. And when trolling is used as a political strategy, and in this case, trolling was used as a political strategy to further a fascist, right? Fascism does not end without violence. Name one time fascism ended without violence. A cult of personality that has sprung up around this trolling mechanism that supports a guy like Trump, it becomes not about country or about party. party. One of the things that I thought was when you watch the video of the coup, insurrection, riot, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, they were flying some American flags, but they were flying flags that said Trump's name. There was something really unique
Starting point is 00:44:57 about this, right? They weren't flying fucking Romero Republican flags. They weren't saying, go GOP. This was fight for Trump, is what they were chanting. That's about one guy, right? That is a trolling as an ideology to further the political agenda, not of a party, but of a person, of literally one person who desperately was struggling to maintain control of his party through a series of lies, amplified and amplified and amplified until this crazy conspiracy theorist narrative. Our Capitol yesterday, Cecil, this is a crazy thing to think about. Our Capitol was stormed by conspiracy theorists.
Starting point is 00:45:41 That's absolutely 100% true. That's fucking true, man. That's true. That's what happened. Conspiracy theorists. That's absolutely 100% true. That's fucking true, man. That's true. That's what happened.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Like here, conspiracy theorists centered around a cult of personality in an attempt to continue the power dynamic of one person stormed the Capitol because they were egged on by trolls. That's fucking what happened yesterday. We can't let that happen ever again. That is so fucking dangerous. And part of why it's dangerous is it's real effective. If we didn't learn that from the last four years, we didn't learn the fucking right lesson. Yeah, it's super effective. Because it was real fucking effective.
Starting point is 00:46:16 It's super effective. And, you know, Cory Booker on the floor yesterday said something very similar to what you said. He said the last time that these halls were breached was from a monarchy. And he said, and now we're seeing not flags of a people, we're seeing flags of a person, flags of one person, flags of Trump.
Starting point is 00:46:31 The last time it was flags of a king. And that's what they want. They want a monarchy. There is this cult of personality that wants that. You know, I want to talk too about the people who went in there and smashed shit up and broke stuff. And I saw a bunch of people posting and trying to equate what they did to, you know, some guy who fucking broke a window and fucking on Walgreens or lit a garbage can on fire over the summer.
Starting point is 00:47:00 You know what I mean? Like those, the, the, the, the race tensions that happened earlier in the summer versus where we're at now. And a lot of people were trying to compare the two and say, if you, if you thought violence was okay there, then you can't say anything about it now. Bullshit. Those two things are not even remotely, uh, equitable. They're not equitable at all. A hundred percent different. The difference is, is there's difference is there's a bunch of people who are not in power looking to fight to try to get basic human rights. And then the other side is people who are in power who are patulantly stomping their foot and being angry. Those are two totally different things. They're not even on the same level. The idea that you would somehow think that those are equivalent
Starting point is 00:47:44 makes you a stupid person. You're a dumb person if you think that. They're not even on the same level. The idea that you would somehow think that those are equivalent makes you a stupid person. You're a dumb person if you think that. They're not the same. And then the fact that they would say, well, that's our house, we're allowed to do it. I watched those people attack the media. The media was there just filming it. I saw them break at least $200,000 to $300,000
Starting point is 00:48:02 worth of equipment, pouring water on it, smashing it. They literally attacked these reporters, took their equipment, and just literally broke it into several pieces. So the idea that you're going to bitch and complain and say, well, it's our building. We're allowed to do that. Yeah, well, those guys,
Starting point is 00:48:16 those people attacked normal citizens, and they do it all the time. They just don't ever, they have these weird blinders where they don't ever see that their side does it, right? They don't ever see that their side does it. And when you, when you finally are put in that position, all those people were screaming, fuck you, please. Every single one of them, because they were getting, they were getting shoved around. Every single one of them stopped back in the blue, immediately stopped back in the blue. Yeah. You know, I want
Starting point is 00:48:42 to talk to you about one of the things that you mentioned which i just think like the police response there were there was like that old lady that like that you were talking about being sort of escorted like don you're never gonna sell me that the police did everything in their power to protect the capital when people are doddering about how when you watch the video it's like they one thing i did think was actually almost comical in its in its farce um was they these idiots storm the capital and then they don't have any idea what to do there's no fucking plan next they're they so fucking people of dubious fucking physical health get in somehow the The cops are, you know, trying to keep everyone at bay,
Starting point is 00:49:26 but like, seriously, people who look barely mobile, like they're slipping, like they somehow manage to get past the vanguard of the blue, right? And they're in there and then they're in the Capitol and mostly they just wander aimlessly about like teenagers in the mall at night. There's an awesome video of velvet ropes that keep you inside of this one little place,
Starting point is 00:49:48 right? So like, as you walk through, you're in this big rotunda type like area. And as you're walking, there's paintings on the wall and there's velvet ropes that keep you in the velvet ropes. Well, they just broke in and everybody stayed within the velvet ropes. They walked right through. They just walked right through. They're all just walking through in the velvet ropes. They walked right through. They just walked right through. They're all just walking through in the velvet ropes.
Starting point is 00:50:07 It's hilarious. I saw one guy just walking away with the speaker's podium. He had a, or not podium, he had a lectern or whatever. He had a lectern underneath. And then other people, they broke into Nancy Pelosi's office, stole her mail.
Starting point is 00:50:19 They trashed it, literally just trashed it. They just broke everything and smashed it. You didn't have a plan. They didn't have, that one lady who's an Air Force, she was an Air Force vet. And she broke in with the rest of them. 14-year Air Force vet. She broke in with them.
Starting point is 00:50:34 The guy's screaming. You can watch, there's a video. And there's video from all different angles. And someone spiced it all together. So you can see this happening. Someone, many people screaming, she has a gun. Cops are literally two feet from her. Two feet from her.
Starting point is 00:50:49 They watch her stand up on the side of that window. And the Secret Service is like, fuck you. Sorry, I can't let anybody in. Blamo shoots her. And then the cops come and help her after she's been shot. But the cops are no shit. Two feet from behind her. Didn't even bother to stop her. didn't even try to stop her.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Lots of cops. And not just one cop. There's a dozen cops on that step. There was a dozen cops there. They watched her die. They literally watched her die. Yeah. Their incompetence allowed all of this shit to happen. Again, the cops,
Starting point is 00:51:21 I don't want them to beat the shit out of people, but to your point, they could have had a plan where this never would have happened. They could have not been allowed in there. What the fuck? I got to say this too. What the fuck did they think was going to happen? They're going to storm the Capitol and people are like, okay, let's redo the election. A bunch of fucking yahoos wandered around Nancy Pelosi's office.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Well, I guess, I mean, what the fuck was your plan? You're going to walk in and people are going to be like, okay, well, I guess you showed up uninvited. So you're in charge now. What happens? What the fuck did you guys think
Starting point is 00:51:56 was going to happen wearing your weird badger costumes and your fucking super odd, like fucking American flag capes and shit? Well, you think anybody's going to take you seriously? You're going to show up and then you're going to wander aimlessly about because you literally have no plan about what to do once you get there. Then time is going to go by and you're going to whistle on your way out.
Starting point is 00:52:17 They're going to get your fucking picture. And in a couple of days, someone's going to arrest you. You're going to go away. You're going to go to jail for a very long time. And because of Trump's specific executive order, to go to jail for a very long time. And because of Trump's specific executive order, that puts people away for a very long time. But I want to say too, you know, these people came out. They're wandering around, like you say, whistling about.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Let's say they would have grabbed the electoral college ballot box that was on. I don't know if you saw this, but the couple of aides carried this out when all the senators were pushed out of the place. They carried out, I think it was in the house, they carried out the ballot box. That has all the fucking like old timey calligraphy ballot things that they get from the states. And if that was destroyed, they would have to go through another whole process to, to go through. So they actually were consciously grabbed it and left.
Starting point is 00:53:09 But if that was destroyed, I guess that there would have been some process to go through. I'm not a law talking guy, so I don't know, but there was some weird thing that that would have happened. But here's the worst. Look guys, you guys do this.
Starting point is 00:53:20 You let's say you put off the inauguration until Trump has to leave. Nancy Pelosi is your president. Stupid. I know this to you. this you let's say you put off the inauguration until trump has to leave nancy pelosi as your president stupid i know this to you yeah yeah i i can't this this only backfired here so okay here here's here's what happened as a result you stupid ass motherfuckers here's what happened as a result as a result lindsey graham lindsey graham stood in front of the whole world and said enough is enough this election is over we need to move on i'm paraphrasing a little we need to move on biden won i wish that didn't happen but that's what happened. Fucking Mitch McConnell gave a speech that I found myself agreeing with. That's the weirdest thing that's ever happened in 42 years of my life. Mitch McConnell gave a speech and I agreed with everything he said. I disagreed with something.
Starting point is 00:54:18 He tried to push it on the Democrats as if it was their fault. Oh, did he? He did that several times where he kept on saying the Democrats came in and tried to do the exact same thing that the Republicans are doing right now. We can't normalize this. He tried to blame it on them. Oh, I don't remember that. I did listen to that speech. And as he was saying,
Starting point is 00:54:34 I was like, fuck you. Why do you have to somehow not just say the let's stop this. Instead, you've got to turn it into an attack because you're a piece of shit. That's why. Because he's an asshole. But you know,
Starting point is 00:54:44 the best one was fucking Mitt Romney yesterday who turned to the audience and he just said, you know what we have to do? We have to tell them the truth. He lost. We have to say the truth to them. And the place erupted in cheers. You know, they know. Everybody knows.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Every single one of them knows he lost. They're just doing it because they know it's politically the only thing they can do to stop the inevitable, which is they will never get elected again. And guess what? The moment, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:16 you probably lost yesterday with that display that they encouraged. You probably lost. you fractured. I do think you fractured the Republican Party yesterday. I do too. I think you fractured. The GOP has split, man. I think you fractured.
Starting point is 00:55:32 There are people out there now that are Trump loyalists. And I think you lost the, there's a conservative that you lost. I don't know what their name is and I don't know how to classify them, but I want to say the fucking real staunch law and order people, I guess is how I would say it. Those people you lost yesterday and you'll never get them back again. I don't care what you do. You're never going to get them back. Those people won't come back. Not to you. They might
Starting point is 00:55:58 come back to a different Republican party, but they will not come back to this one. It's got to be reformed somehow. Yeah, I do think that this is absolutely catastrophic to the GOP and fucking good. And I want to be clear too that when I watched like Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell and these assholes that changed their mind after the coup, I do want to say that I know that that happened only because they realized the jig was up and that this was such political third rail toxicity shit that at this point
Starting point is 00:56:32 they could no longer support it or they would be tied to Trump who is now a failed president. There is no ifs, ands, or buts around that, right? There was a possibility for a while that maintaining a
Starting point is 00:56:45 connection to Trump maintained a connection to that ultra-motivated base. And I think that that's why Mitch McConnell and Lindsey Graham, they thought they could ride the coattails of this galvanizing force that motivated a base that the GOP had no right to and was never likely to see again. And they knew that. And so they were willing to do and say anything Ted Cruz style. This wasn't conscious. This wasn't a crisis where they looked at themselves in the mirror and they thought, oh gosh, what have I been doing? Oh my gosh, this is immoral. None of that happened. None of that happened. No, no, no. They just saw the writing on the wall and they jumped ship
Starting point is 00:57:25 they these were rats jumping a sinking ship last night that's all it was it was that's all it was and anybody who was on that ship i want to say this too anybody who was on that ship should fucking be ashamed of yourself and i hope they sink forever they sink too because if you if you played into this at all you should sink period if you played into this at all you should sink period if you played into this at all you know one of the few republicans and i fucking i hate him especially because all the votes the vote for fucking amy coney barrett is mitt romney he was on from very beginning sort of congratulating biden and saying that he lost he was one of the only ones one of the only few the rest even mitch mcconnell and the rest of, all were saying, no, we'll let him exhaust his whatever bullshit
Starting point is 00:58:08 because they knew too that this was going to open up the floodgates for voting to be more open and a chance for it to happen. Look, there's a reason why we vote on a Tuesday and why it's a business hour vote. There's a reason why that happens hour vote. There's a reason why that fucking happens, right? There's a reason. Your bank is open longer than you can fucking vote in this country, okay? And the fact that they fucking, they try to push and stop people from voting over and over and over again, and they close polling positions, and they make sure that people of color have to jump
Starting point is 00:58:40 through all kinds of hoops, and they want you to pay for some sort of ID and some sort of weird poll tax to try to make sure, even though there's a perfectly fine system, which makes sure that nobody fucking has voter fraud, without fucking, or barely any voter fraud, one fucking, one thing happened in Georgia or something like that, with signature ID, the reason why they do that, the reason why they push for that is because they want to make sure that it's harder for you to do it, if there's more hoops, you won't do it. They don't want you to do it. They want you to be a lazy millennial that won't buy stamps.
Starting point is 00:59:10 That's what they fucking want, man. We were having a peaceful demonstration of violence yesterday that was lower than our rats. And we're saying Antifa ruined it. Right? Yeah, Antifa. Sorry. So Cecil, this is related. This is from Raw Story. GOP congressman blames Antifa fascists in backwards MAGA hats after Trump supporters stormed the Capitol. So I have actually seen this narrative and I'll tell you a funny story because she doesn't listen to the show. So I don't give a shit. My nanny was telling me a story
Starting point is 00:59:45 that her parents are like hard fucking Trump supporters, right? And so when all this shit was kicking off and going down, she was over and she was very upset. And her mom was like, you know, they're right to storm the Capitol
Starting point is 00:59:57 and like they should be there and like blah, blah, blah. Well, when that all politically backfired, when none of the things, whatever they were, that they hoped to have happen, happened. When it all just turned into a fucking nightmare shit show and the entire sensible country turned on that. She flipped the script.
Starting point is 01:00:15 It was like, that wasn't MAGA. That was Antifa. So the day before, while it was happening, it was the right thing to do. And then as soon as it didn't have any political currency to spend from it. Then it wasn't us. It's Schrodinger's protester. Exactly. If it, if it worked, it was me.
Starting point is 01:00:34 If it didn't work, then it was the bad guys. Yep. That's exactly what happened. The bad guys? That's exactly what happened. They flipped the script. And evidently, Tom, if you are someone who supports the president, a MAGA person, you're like Sylvester Stallone.
Starting point is 01:00:50 If you turn your head back, it flips a switch. Turn your hat backwards, it flips a switch. Sylvester Stallone over the top. If you're interested, that's where the reference comes from. And it flips a switch
Starting point is 01:01:02 and it turns you into Antifa. What's crazy to me is there's all these people in the world who if they wear their hat a certain direction, they immediately change politics. That's crazy to me.
Starting point is 01:01:12 It's insane to me. This fucking guy, this is Mo Brooks from Alabama. You cannot expect a man named Mo from Alabama to be anything
Starting point is 01:01:22 other than this guy. MAGA hat, they don't let you use that anymore. Mo from Alabama to be anything other than this guy. MAGA hat. They don't let you use that anymore. Moe from Alabama became a congressman because he's the fucking fourth person in Alabama that could read. That's it. Not well, though. Yeah. No, it's why his name only has two letters.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Are you fucking kidding me? He tweeted out. This is what he tweeted out. Remember when I said trolling as political strategy? Here's? He tweeted out. This is what he tweeted out. This is how, remember when I said trolling as political strategy? Here's what he tweeted out. House recess until order and safety can be assured. Rumor. This is what he wrote.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Rumor. That's where we're at now. Antifa fascists in backwards MAGA hats. Time will tell what truth is. Capitol police announcement. Capitol breach. Locked down. Do not leave chamber.
Starting point is 01:02:06 We are at a place where literally they are spreading rumors in order to confuse rumor with truth. Right? Because here is something that's important. It's not a rumor when authority figures say it. Even if they say it with the caveat of, this is a rumor. That's not how authority works. caveat of this is a rumor. That's not how authority works. When your megaphone is that large, you are spreading things and a game of telephone quickly drops the word rumor, right? The game of telephone says, did you hear what Congressman Mo Brooks said? Congressman Mo Brooks right now is
Starting point is 01:02:39 locked down in the Capitol. Holy shit. And he says it's Antifa fascists. That's what happened. Isn't Antifa fascists like an ATM machine? Well, no. Isn't it like something that it's like dark matter and matter colliding? You're an anti-fascist fascist. You're an anti-fascist fascist. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Do they not know what Antifa stands for? Anti-fascist fascists? Man, you see all those black Klan leaders? It's like full fat, non-fat ice cream. Right. 100%, I can't believe it's not butter butter. What?
Starting point is 01:03:19 I'll tell you, man. It's so fast how quickly they fucking, they jettison this narrative though, because what I saw too was a group of people that initially were pushing for it. And I saw on Twitter, especially, you know, some of the bigger megaphones were pushing for it. And then a bunch of these sort of staunch megaphones that are sort of respect, I know not respectable, they're Republicans, but you know what I mean? The ones that started tweeting out that this was abhorrent. And then also making sure to say
Starting point is 01:03:51 while they were saying it was abhorrent that the reason why this is happening is because the left normalized this over the summer. That was the message that they came out with. They can't do anything. They can't say anything without somehow blaming the left for it, even though it's their fucking fault
Starting point is 01:04:08 that their idiots were in the fucking area, and it's their fucking fault that they got tuned up, and it's their fucking fault that they pushed past the fucking guards, and it's their fault that they stole fucking mail from Nancy Pelosi's desk.
Starting point is 01:04:20 It doesn't matter. It's still somehow Antifa's fault, right? Look, no matter how many episodes of Law & Order SVU you watch, that doesn't, that's not an excuse
Starting point is 01:04:30 to rape someone. Like, just because you saw it on TV a bunch doesn't mean you're like, well, then I had no choice. I saw, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:39 That's not how that works at all. What the fuck? It normalized it? Well, I don't know. It seemed like it worked out so well for those guys that got the shit kicked
Starting point is 01:04:47 out of them all summer. And they seem to forget that, conveniently forget that part, that there was people, you know, did you, I would say, I would go out on a limb here
Starting point is 01:04:58 and say 100% chance that there were more people guarding the federal building in Portland than there were the other day. Do you remember seeing the video from that? I do. Three deep around that
Starting point is 01:05:12 federal building with a fence. Three deep around that federal building. And way more severely armed. And then they also had just cars driving around with people in black clothes kidnapping people. They didn't do it.
Starting point is 01:05:26 I don't remember seeing that at all yesterday. Yeah, well, I mean, and again, I don't want us to ever do this, but do you remember when that fucking Navy veteran, like, just walked up to the cops and just stood there talking to him, and they fucking beat him with fucking batons and broke his hand? And sprayed shit right in his face? For no reason. No reason.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Right, just sprayed him in the face and like, they beat the shit out of that guy for nothing. For standing there. And they helped that lady down the stairs yesterday. Right. I mean we have a disproportion problem in this country. Yeah. Hello, this is BB Channel 4 coming
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Starting point is 01:07:33 So, uh, on the stream this week, we had a great time this week. A fucking laugh riot. It was so much fun. We watched, uh, we watched a woman who got maced. That was the best thing. Get sort of jump cut into an Animaniacs short, which was absolutely genius. And then we also watched Trump's speech this week. Trump, the speech he gave literally two hours before we started the stream. So come check it out.
Starting point is 01:07:58 It's on YouTube. And we hang out with the chat and we chill and we had a great time. So go check it out. But if you did check it out and you want to get a follow up to that Animaniacs thing, we're going to post it on this week's show notes. A woman is imitating
Starting point is 01:08:09 the woman who got maced at the Rotunda and it is so good. So we'll put a link on this week's show notes. Thank you, Kyle, for sending us the Twitter, the tweet. It is super, super funny. We also got a message from Sean and Sean sent us a message from the APM
Starting point is 01:08:26 article from the AP that shows that people who are, were selfie-ing and going through all the trouble of taking pictures of themselves and posting that they were at the fucking rotunda. Well, guess what? You lost your job. Stupid. Man. See, so do you remember when like cell phone video and cell phone cameras first kind of became a thing and fucking dumb teenagers would go out? I remember going out when I was a teenager and you'd fucking do stupid shit, but it wasn't on video. And then there was this thing where teenagers are going out doing stupid shit and then it was on video and then they get in trouble for it. And you're like, oh, man. Now we just film everything.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Now it's live. We are fucking taking selfies of our coup. It's unbelievable. That is how fucking weird it like you're fucking this, this fucking insurrection brought to you by TikTok. That is the craziest fucking world that we live in. But the dumb ass thing about it, the wonderful dumb ass thing about it is people are so fucking self-centered and like desirous of fucking micro blogging every moment of their fucking pathetic illegal lives that they're going to lose their dumb jobs over it.
Starting point is 01:09:34 It's so crazy. This is what's going to get these idiots put in jail. Absolutely. Fucking fools. I actually have a group of guys, these three other guys, and I was staying the night at one of their houses. And he lived across the street from material service. And he said, hey, tonight we're going to go out and we're going to go dress in black and go run around material service. And I thought, oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:09:59 That sounds like fun. And we're going to break the law. I know we're going to break the law. 100% you're going to break the law. But I thought're going to break the law a hundred percent. You're going to break the law, but you know, I thought we were just going to run around by the quarry back there. Yeah. It's dangerous, but I didn't think we were going to do anything. Right. I didn't think there was anything that we were going to do. You're not going to, you're in the middle of a giant gravel pit for Christ's sake. If you don't know what material services, there are, there are a company that mines
Starting point is 01:10:20 limestone and gravel, and that's the company. And they make cement, I think. I don't know. They just, they're just like a rock company. So we just, we're going to run around in a quarry. So we go out there, we jump over the fence and we run back there. And, you know, you're just being kids. So you think it almost feels like you're, you know, you're pretending or you're thinking that you're sort of breaking into a place, but you're not really.
Starting point is 01:10:44 I mean, you kind of are, but nobody's, you're not breaking in. No one's out there looking for you. But we came across a trailer and the trailer was a trailer that they used as sort of a place where you, they have a time card, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:56 it's like a trailer for a boss and they would come in. And two of the guys say, let's break into that. And I say, no, I'm not going to do that. I say, you guys can do that if you want. I'm not going to do that. I say, you guys can do that if you want. I'm not going to do that.
Starting point is 01:11:06 And I take a step back and two of the guys broke into it and then they started just stealing a bunch of stuff. They had a boom box in there. They stole that. They stole a camera. They stole a bunch. Basically, whatever was in there
Starting point is 01:11:18 that the guys had in there that the guys were using at their fucking job site, these guys stole. And they all go, we go running back with them. I go running back with them and they go back to the house. And one of the idiots that was, that went there, they took a picture of themselves with all the goods. They took a picture of themselves and I'm sitting there looking at them, just thinking to myself, are you fucking stupid? What is wrong with you? Not only did you break into a place and
Starting point is 01:11:44 you know, they're not going to fucking dust the place for wrong with you? Not only did you break into a place and, you know, they're not going to fucking dust the place for fingerprints, right? They're not going to come after. They don't care. The cops are going to spend zero minutes of energy. Cops are not going to spend any moment. And none of these guys probably care. They'll just requisition a new boom box or whatever.
Starting point is 01:11:57 It doesn't matter. But these guys take a photo of it. Well, now you got a fucking piece of evidence, you stupid idiot. You had a thing that you could have got away with instead. You're so stupid. So it's not that they weren't stupid enough back then. It's just that they didn't have technology to upload
Starting point is 01:12:13 somewhere because they would have. Tom, I guarantee you, I guarantee you they would have uploaded that somewhere. I guarantee it. But they just didn't. It was a fucking, it was a Polaroid and it just so happened to be that that's what they stole too. So they had the Polaroid and they took a picture of, and that's what they took a picture of.
Starting point is 01:12:31 So, you know. It's like leaving a trail of fucking like driver's license breadcrumbs. Someone would have done this a long time ago if the technology was there. I guarantee it. I guarantee it. Yep. Tom, this Caillou thing, I don't know a lot about caillou but we got an
Starting point is 01:12:49 image oh this if there is any joy to be had in the beginning of 2021 it is that caillou is dead canceled fuck you caillou caillou fucking the most obnoxious, irritating goddamn children's show any parent has ever. Caillou is about, I think, a fucking four-year-old with cancer or something. I don't know. He's fucking bald. He's fucking got an obnoxious, shitty voice. The show is about nothing. Nothing ever fucking happens.
Starting point is 01:13:22 It is the worst. And every fucking little kid goes through a fucking Caillou phase and it makes you dislike your own child. That's what, this show is so fucking obnoxious. You're just like, fuck, I know that my genes call to your genes, but I literally hate you right now.
Starting point is 01:13:39 I loathe you so much. Caillou, fuck you, fuck you. I'm glad you're dead, you horrible little monster. All right. Well, we're done with that. Let's move on to a message from Sean, and he sent in a Star Wars message. It's a Star Wars meme. We're going to post it on this
Starting point is 01:13:56 week's show notes. I really like it. Tom doesn't get it, but that's okay. I don't get it. So, no. Is that Han Solo? Yeah, it's Han Solo. It's from the first movie. He literally says those words in the first movie.
Starting point is 01:14:10 So they get into a blaster fight by the control tower or whatever, and they kill everybody. And he turns around and someone says, Hey, is everything all right down there? And he says, Uh, everything's perfectly fine. Uh, we're fine. We're all fine here. How are you? And then and he says, uh, everything's perfectly fine. Uh, we're fine. We're all fine here.
Starting point is 01:14:26 How are you? And then the, and then the guy says, what's going on down there? We're going to send somebody and then he shoots the thing and he says, boring conversation anyway
Starting point is 01:14:33 and then he walks away and it's a really cool moment and it's a funny moment and people still use it and so that's what, that's the reference. I know, I explained the joke
Starting point is 01:14:41 so I ruined it. I just don't remember the movie that well. yeah, yeah. I've seen it a million times. So, all right. So this next one is Pence and his sweaty face Pence is saying,
Starting point is 01:14:51 do I either protect democracy or cheat for Trump? I gotta say Pence protected democracy. He literally- How shocking is that? He literally protected. What he did yesterday was say to Trump and two days ago, I can't do this. I can't overthrow the world for you.
Starting point is 01:15:09 I'm sorry. We got a message from Russell and he wanted to correct us just a little. He said, you know, I know you guys were kidding when you said that the bomb that that lizard person blew off didn't take out the internet, but it kind of did for this area
Starting point is 01:15:24 because there's a switching station there. But it did only for briefly and it did only for a day. But yeah, we recognize that when you destroy a communications hub, you upset communications sometimes. That sucks. For a week, I guess. I think he's saying for a week
Starting point is 01:15:40 even 9-11 service was down and even worse, there was no Netflix for the kids. I don't even know how people raised kids without the internet. They probably drowned them or something. Next one is, this is an image from Seth. And he's talking about an ad placement. I'm just going to post this on this week's show notes.
Starting point is 01:15:57 It's an image. So good. It's so good. We got a link to Parler Watch. Reddit has an rparlerwatch. It's one word. And it's a place where you can find people who post shit to Parler Watch. Reddit has an rparlerwatch. It's one word, and it's a place where you can find people who post shit from Parler,
Starting point is 01:16:09 and so it's pretty great. You can go check it out. We also got a message from Dave, who said, I recently earned my PhD in philosophy and defending a dissertation on conspiracy theories. I want to thank you both for reading The Biggest Secret a few years ago
Starting point is 01:16:22 so that I, remember with a PhD, could understand what the fuck was going on in that book. Yeah, man. That book is fucked up, dude. And it was, I have to say, of all the things we did, that book was the hardest thing we've ever done. Although we did give up on two other books afterwards,
Starting point is 01:16:42 Dianetics and something else. We did because it was exhausting to wade through bullshit that's that thick. It's so bad. Yeah. Got a great image from Aaron and it's Mitch McConnell. You'll just have to see it.
Starting point is 01:16:53 It's super great. So check it out. This week's show notes. So that is going to wrap it up for this week. Last week, we released Toaster Shaken's 2020. So all the best clips came out. You go check that out if you missed
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Starting point is 01:17:54 hopefully there's an America next week, and we will be back then, but we're going to leave you like we always do with the skeptics' creed. Credulity is not a virtue. It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue, hypno-Babylon bullshit. Couched in scientician, double bubble, toil and trouble, pseudo-quasi-alternative, acupunctuating,
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