Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 561: Hungry, Hungry Hunger Games

Episode Date: January 25, 2021

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thing man it's the simple thing they say like 10 000 hours of practice you become an expert i feel like for me that's going to be a switch it's going to be from fucking amateur to expert at our 9999 super fast we're going to get a message that says it's not true. You know that, right? That book was debunked. Fuck you. That's what I think. All right.

He's a good writer, though. Break my heart. Malcolm Gladwell. Malcolm Gladwell is a good writer. Malcolm Gladwell is amazing. You know who else broke my heart was Jonah Lehrer. Jonah Lehrer. I'm never going to get over how much that broke my heart.

You never recovered from Jonah Lehrer. I never did. It hurt. It never hurt me deep inside. Still rocking back and forth in the shower from that one. This is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence.

Too many topics that makes the news, makes it big or makes us mad. It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no welcome mat. This is episode 561. It's a new era, motherfucker. Let me tell you why today is so important. Today is so important because no longer guys is there a diet coke button on the resolute desk yes you heard it here no longer can a man press a single red button mounted to a wooden box to summon a butler to show up with a silver platter upon which sits a Diet Coke. This is a brave new world. It's a brand new day in America. Brand new day, Tom.

Oh, God. Oh, man. He got rid of the whole box. I will say this. The whole entire last two months is everything America needed to recover from a Trump presidency. The entire last two months debacle is everything we needed to just show how bad and how awful a person that guy was. And it's something that everybody knew all along. And I think the very

best part of my day yesterday and today was after yesterday, after he flew away and went away, I never heard about him again. Yeah. It just, that was it. And he's not on Twitter and he's not shouting and people aren't talking about that. And he's, and he's, and he's gone and he, and I don't even care. Like I literally don't care. You know what I didn't do?

Watch all of the inauguration speech. I watched it. I thought, oh, that's pretty good. Yeah. He hit some points. And then he kind of got to the end and he got a little prey. And I was like, I'm done. Okay. Go pray. That's cool. I'm not going to listen to you anymore. And I shut it off. And I didn't think one second about it after that. Cause I realized there was an adult in the room. And I just said, the adults have it now. I'm not going to lie. I didn't watch any of it. The inauguration speech was scheduled to come on and i had this very narrow window in my day where i could squeeze a workout in and i was like and hayley was like

you're gonna watch it i was like no i'm gonna go work out because like i wasn't afraid right to your point there's an adult in the room i wasn't like well i want to watch this to make sure that we're not like declaring war on anybody or like calling a class of citizen no longer people right yeah that wasn't going to happen i i i saw afterwards uh hayley showed me the uh the video of the inaugural poet 22 years old I don't know if you saw that. I didn't watch it, no. I don't like poetry. Beautiful. Ouch. Okay. All right.

Well, I'm just, you know. It's decent, but, you know. I know. I was just thinking, like, I have come out to my shit to support, man. I must have been, like, fucking nails on a chalkboard. I'm not even a... But I watched that, and it was beautiful.

I mean, it was really... Yeah, it's really gorgeous. It's really gorgeous, yeah. Beautiful, incredible. That's all I watched that and it was beautiful I mean it was really yeah it's really gorgeous it's really gorgeous beautiful incredible um that's all I watched yeah and I was thrilled I was thrilled I read a little bit I don't even think I finished the times article about the inauguration itself because I was like yeah it's a ceremony and it was ceremonial and he struck a tone that was not like deafening in its bombastic bellicosity like the fucking one in 2016. Exactly. So I'm like, okay.

I mean, he didn't come out and say this American carnage. Right. Do you remember? I mean, that's how he led off. That's how fucking Trump led off. You know, that's actually what Ira Glass wanted to name his show.

I know, I know. But he also, but he wanted This American Life to be the next WWE. So it was This American Carnage made sense. But they had to switch it just to boring stories. They told him to flex and they're like, uh-huh, NPR. With those arms?

NPR. And you get a regular belt. No big belt for you. Regular belt. Okay, you win the Dockers belt. That's what you get, the Dockers. But it was one of those days yesterday I saw it happen and I thought, you know,

there's no violence that happens because they had this huge green zone around the place. He got Don, walked around, it looks like they had a big... I did watch the firework show at the very end of his little inauguration celebration which again you know uh was just absolutely amazing this entire star-filled bunch of people came out and sang and did all kinds of stuff and then they had this like baller

firework show at the end was i mean it was un-fucking-believable. I seriously thought it was computer-generated when I was watching. I thought there was so many fireworks that were blowing off. It was really amazing. It was genuinely amazing. So I watched that.

That was the only piece I watched. But, you know, he had other people. He had Gaga sing something. He had someone sing Amazing Grace. Garth Brooks, I think, sang Amazing Grace. And so people came out, you know, because people, you know, the left gets the star power. And so the left had all the people on the left come out and do their thing. But I'll tell you, you know, there was this sense yesterday that I had that I

didn't have to check the news to find out if something horrible happened. Yeah, I know. And I'm found out out today one of the headlines today was they came in and you know how you were saying you remember you you called this too you said you don't have to spend the entirety of of uh vaccine creation time on your ass you can figure out vaccine distribution while vaccine creation time happens you could do those things simultaneously they should be in parallel they should be in parallel yeah you said this on the show three months ago and they came in and they found out today that they had literally no plan they had literally no plan and so yeah oh and so now biden has to start from square one.

But I think the good thing is that I think he understands and he knew where he was going to go when he came in day one. So he doesn't have to dismantle anything. I guess that's good. Yeah, there's no plans. And there was like fucking the director of health and human services also stood up in front of everybody and said, yeah, we're going to release the rest of the national stockpile to the states and there is no national stockpile it was a flat-out lie

they there is nothing there's there's no there are no reserves and there was no plan we skin of our fucking teeth guys yeah no skin of our teeth if this thing had gone if this had gone another direction there the no plan would have continued being no plan yeah no if you're one if he would have won oh yeah where are you now where are you now yeah you know because they can't even they can't even figure out how these vaccines they currently had were getting distributed they were like amazing they were like literally shooting them out of t-shirt gun in florida whoever can catch this one gets it. My buddy in California got his vaccine today.

He's 32. He's 32, 33 years old in perfect health. He just waited in a big long line because like they basically they have a bunch of vaccine and they are trying to give them out in order. But if they have some and they're going to go to waste, rather than have them go to waste, concurrently, they've got a line of just first-come, first-served walk-ins. Fucking A. But there shouldn't be 50 different plans for this.

There's 50 different plans for this. There is. There won't be. There won't be anymore. I found out in my county, I'm one seat. So I'm the third tier of the first phase based on my job, my real life job. So I was excited about that until I read through the county. So the county, it's not just the state either. Like every county has different rules. So when I read through the county, they're just like, yeah, well, we'll figure out one C and we're done with one A yeah like they don't have yeah a plan developed there will be there will be soon and i i what i love so exciting there's a comment from fauci today uh someone had asked him someone because amazon's jumped in and said that they will help distribute right so logistics logistics logistics is their fucking jam man it's perfect i order shit from amazon

sometimes i get it before i ordered it like i get that shit before i even knew what it was they're like listening in like alexa is in my fucking house she listens in when i like use the last squirt of shampoo she's like oh that's tom's head and shoulders like fucking the doorbell rings while i still have a towel on my waist there's head and shoulders i i will say I, when he said that today, he said, you know, somebody in the audience asked him,

they said, cause he's, he's doing fucking press conferences. Now he's doing press conferences back again. So he did one today and they said, Hey, uh, what do you think about,

uh, you know, Amazon jumping in? Do you think it would have been better for the first vaccines to go out? If Amazon would have jumped in earlier. And he said, I can't really speak to that. And he said, and the new administration told us if we don't know the answer, we shouldn't make something up. Next question. How amazing is that? How amazing is that? Yeah. Just don't lie to people is the new rule. One of the things Biden said to, uh, to, to his staff is if I, if I find out that anybody is belittling or talking down to anyone,

they're fired. He's going to have respect. You disrespect anyone else on the staff, you will be fired on the spot, is what he said. We are going to be collegial or you're gone. That's how grownups behave. Grownups don't behave by getting in and slinging. It's so nice. don't behave by getting in and like slinging it's so nice i am i never thought i would be this relieved that we have a a an establishment white man back in charge but like the what look what happened we had a non-establishment white guy in charge like baby steps baby fucking steps toward progress i'm so glad we're here i'm'm happy to be here. I'm happy where we're at. I think my next four years are a plan to pull as hard left as I can on a lot of different things. I want to make sure that we have healthcare and I want to make sure that we have student loan

forgiveness. And I want to make sure we have one of the major things that we talked about initially in the primaries when you and I were talking about child care, pre-K. I want to see that happen for us in this country. I want to see that. I want to pull us that way. I want to talk about it a lot. I want to make sure that we focus on those things. It's the first couple days. He's got to do some cleanup first.

So I'm going to give him some grace period a little bit short a short amount of time but i will definitely be trying to pull left as hard as i can from this point on because i think and i think you know there's there's with bernie at the purse strings there could be a hard left turn and that's really exciting yeah we could we i when when i look at the biden administration's general plans it's hard like is it everything on my fucking christmas list no but like is it a lot of stuff i'm real interested in is it better than all the other christmas presents i've been getting i'm so happy to not be getting coal man yeah i'm so fucking excited if my stocking has an orange in it like it's fucking 1906 okay i'll take that because it was filled with scorpions for four years like i woke up on christmas for four years and it was just like

scorpions and dog shit that's what my fucking stockings were full of i get it i know we don't want to talk about trump too much but i do want to point out the one little piece of funny two pieces of funny schadenfreude before we is um on the same day that uh he was leaving the white house his daughter tiffany who he has strained relationships with and didn't acknowledge in his speeches and never brings up she announced her engagement which i thought was just amazing i just thought that was so great it's like oh my dad fucking never respects me didn't give me any work never brings me up never says thank you you know what i'm gonna make this day about me i'm gonna make the worst day of your career my happiest personal day i thought that was delicious i also

thought it was hilarious that his like big send-off his own vice president didn't attend his own senate majority party leader yeah no, oh yeah. Nobody attended it. He gave out, like his invitations to that, I read, were you could bring five friends. Like instead of a plus one, it'd be like if I said to my,

if I gave you a wedding invitation, if I was so desperately unpopular, Cecil, that I gave you a wedding invitation with instead of a plus one, a plus five. Yeah, yeah. And my wedding was still underbooked yeah yeah that's it oh i love it free open bar guys i'm so happy he's gone i'm so happy to think about him i'm happy he's off twitter i'm ham i don't want to have to think about him anymore

and i don't want to spend any time thinking about him i want to focus on moving forward and i want and like i say i i think that you you know, I'm going to try to, uh, you know, anything that Biden does, I'm going to look at it with a critical eye too. And if it's something that I think he could be farther left on, I'll let people know.

And, uh, and we're going to, you know, we'll just keep on moving forward. And, and, and I do not want to look back at,

uh, at, at Trump's time in office. Cause it was, it was, you know, a lot of people said, oh, it was good comedy. It sucked. It fucking sucked. It did, actually. We had to abandon it.

Yeah. It was too tragic. There was too many fucking tragedies. We had to switch. We had to switch the fucking show around because of it. Yeah. This wasn't Sarah Palin writing down, like, on her hand what she needed to remember. That's comedy. That's comedy.

That's comedy. This was people dying. I guarantee you it would have been just as horrifying if Sarah Palin was in office because she's in office and she's in power, right? Now Trump's a joke now. Trump, after yesterday, the Proud Boys even turned on him. So it's a really weird joke. The Proud Boys turned on him?

Yeah, the Proud Boys because he didn't bail people out or i guess stay in power and declare martial law or something they said he's weak so yeah he's weak yeah he's always been weak you guys are just full it's so amazing this this group of the recently energized and newly disappointed there is no group of people that will be less reachable yeah than this group of people who were one time energized and deeply disappointed the republican party is in fucking patters right now it is absolutely at a crisis i'm not sure the republican party recovers from this it could This could be the turning point that the Republican Party never recovers properly from. Could be. Because there's also a great blue demographic shift that's happening at the same time of their biggest moral crisis.

So there's a woman who literally is having a fucking nervous breakdown, screaming, crying at her phone about President Trump, please save us. And I know this is a popular video and I'm sure a lot of people have seen it the funniest version of this that I've seen is a version where someone has blue screened her a little and then made it look like R2D2 is shooting her out

to Luke and to Obi-Wan Kenobi as if she's Leia Organa saying help me Obi-Wan kenobi you're my only hope president trump it's actually very funny that's great but i will say this like like that woman genuinely is having a mental breakdown because tom joe biden is president i mean joe biden is joe biden it's like and she's's screaming because she's been lied to by so many people. How evil he is.

How communist he is. How he's in the pocket of all these horrible people and how they stole the election. They have been lying forever about this. And so she thinks these are trusted sources and she believes it. And she is in a very difficult place right now. And there's a lot of people out there, the Q people, especially, who were counting down, counting down this moment. And, you know.

Dude, those people cannot fucking even right now. There's a lot of people, Tom, I saw from parlor, people are saying, have I been lied to this whole time? Yeah, I saw the same shit. They're like, was this just a LARP? Yeah. Were you cosplaying at this? We lost friends and family and jobs. Yeah. Yeah. They are coming to a realization that they were lied to, that they were trolled and they don't know how to handle it. And I got to say, there's been so many people. I mean, just look out at this audience.

Look at out of the people who listen to this show. They've done the same thing with God. I did the same thing with God. I remember when I walked away from God, I thought, holy fuck, I was lied to by so many people. So many people I trusted told me there was a God, told me there was a heaven, told me that there was going to be punishment and there was going to be reward and that I should be a good person because of those things. And that this book was a holy book and that these stories were holy stories, I was lied to. And I was lied to by people I trusted, man. I trusted my parents. I trusted the people around me. I trusted all the people in my social circle. I trusted all those people and they lied to me. Not

because they were malicious, because they didn't know the answer either. Yeah, they didn't know because somebody lied to them. Because somebody lied to them. Yeah, they believed it. They believed what they were telling you, man. Yeah, there's a lot of people out there right now that are coming to, they're waking up from a lie.

And I know that this show is a lot of laughing at people. It's a lot of laughing at people. But I also think that this show is also a open hand to anybody who wants to shake that shit off and come into reality. We're here to accept you. And so I hope that that's, I know that there's going to, and I don't want to come off as saying like, let's forgive and forget because I, there's a lot of people who

did some horrible shit that need to pay for that. The people who stormed the Capitol. I'm not talking about the Q guy who's like, Hey, I want a fucking organic meal. That guy needs to go to prison. Okay. A hundred percent. Not talking about that guy. I'm talking about the people that are, you know, that were just, they just followed it. And then the, and they just were part of the movement in, in a sort of a,

a sense that they weren't marching on somebody, you know what I mean? The people who are marching, the people who went to go do stuff like that. I think if they, if they broke any laws and were barred, I think that they should be held accountable for that a hundred percent. But I also think that reality should welcome all the people who were duped by this and not causing problems.

Yeah, I think to the extent that this offers people an introduction to beginning to be more careful what they're thinking. Man, I'm thrilled for that beginning. I'm thrilled for the beginning of that process. Man, I'm thrilled for that beginning. I'm thrilled for the beginning of that process. We found ourselves in a four-year-long experiment where we tried to see just how far bad thinking, populism, and flirting with very dangerous ideologies would take us. And there was a tremendous amount of people who, just to be frank, they don't have the reasoning tools. They don't have the critical thinking tools. They don't have the educational experience.

They're missing some piece of that. They're motivated in their reasoning by some set of ideas or ideals. Tons of that, right? ideas or ideals yeah tons of that right so to the extent that there are people who are going to say oh fuck my thinking was flawed i i my sourcing was flawed i i'm not sure how to do this anymore i don't know where to get information i don't know why i thought these things why was i misled man those people need to find like this is a good opportunity to bring those people to reality yeah it's it's it is it is their fault like i'll say for as far it's their fault but it does not make them irredeemable yeah right they did a bad job thinking absolutely they need to learn to do

a better job thinking and we need to give them an opportunity to improve their process, literally their process. Because part of what this last four years exposed is that so many people don't have a process that they follow. They don't have a system that they use in order to discover the world and to know true things. They don't have a fucking flow chart in their mind that they run through to make sure that things are true or not true they're they're simply absorbing information um in volume and feeling their way through the world and from sources that they think are the source right that is the font of knowledge donald trump is the font of knowledge so so to the extent that some of those people are going to wake up you know your your uncle your cousin your sister mom whatever like to the extent that some of those people are going to wake up, your uncle, your cousin, your sister, mom, whatever, to the extent that those people are going to wake up and be like, holy shit, this would be a great opportunity to reach out to those people and say, let's think about how you ended up there. Let's really think about how you ended up there because I know you feel terrible about ending up where you ended up.

And I can help you. Here's how to never end up feeling like this again. We have to do something about the 11 million. And some of them are valedictorians. Well, my answer to that is, and by the way, their parents brought them in. It wasn't their fault. It's true in some cases, but they aren't all valedictorians. They weren't all brought in by their parents.

It's true in some cases, but they aren't all valedictorians. They weren't all brought in by their parents. For everyone who's a valedictorian, there's another 100 out there that they weigh 130 pounds, and they've got calves the size of cantaloupes because they're hauling 75 pounds of marijuana across the desert. Those people would be legalized with the same act. When Trump first took office, that feels so good it really like it like my nipples are good feels good um when when trump uh was inaugurated we took a look at his 100 day plan we did we um and i thought it would be nice to bookend uh that nightmare by taking a look now at the biden 100 day plan so i pulled the information up cecil that i put on the show

notes it's just right from his website so i and this is, and this is mostly an immigration one. I do want to say that, that Trump, that, that Biden also has a hundred. He, his plan is, is for the COVID is mask up for a hundred days and a hundred million vaccines in the first hundred days. Those are, that's his COVID plan moving forward too. So, but that we're not going to talk about that because there's nothing to say. It's like, cool, that's more than what we've been doing, let's do it. You know, it's funny. I read a bunch of articles about

his 100-day plan, but other than just this information that I grabbed from the website, I didn't see his agenda outlined in the same point-by-point way that Trump did. Trump did it. It was much more difficult to sort of do the discovery on. And I think that's because a 100-day plan 30 days ago probably didn't mean

anything, right? The world changed. We've joked around on this show a bunch on how much the world has changed. Can you imagine being in charge of it and having to continually reevaluate? So let's talk a little bit about this. As you said, a lot of these items refer specifically to immigration, but I think that's an important piece of the American puzzle. So in the first 100 days, he's going to immediately reverse the Trump administration's cruel and senseless policies that separate parents from their children at the border. He's going to do that by ending detrimental asylum policies.

He's going to end the mismanagement of the asylum system. So one of the things they talked about here is the policy of metering. Metering is an arbitrary number of asylum applicants that are accepted per day. And that is not because there's only this number that we can staff in order to accept. Metering basically creates a barrier to process. It creates a barrier to entry for process, and it's meant to discourage people from even trying, right? So that's what metering was intended for, and it's a nightmare. And also the ending, the prosecution of parents for minor immigration violations was specifically a tactic that Jeff Sessions thought up and put forth because Jeff Sessions wanted to discourage this process entirely. And he wanted to scare the people

showing up that they would lose their children. And so they wouldn't show up. That's what he was hoping. He was hoping that that would stop people from showing up. I mean, that was his whole plan. He said it aloud. Oh yeah. There was nothing secretive about this. It's all, they wanted to make the process of attempting to seek asylum so difficult and arbitrary and unlikely to occur that you'd basically know that you walked from Guatemala to the United States only to get stuck at the border and to be in a really dangerous border town at the edge of the United States only to get stuck at the border and to be in a really dangerous border town at the edge of the United States and Mexico, where you'd be even more likely to be abused or victimized in some way. That was the plan. The plan was to victimize huge swaths of

people to scare others. Imagine that out loud and everything, right? Yeah. Yeah. I like this one a lot. Surge humanitarian resources to the border and foster public and private initiatives. Humanitarian needs are best met through a network of organizations such as faith-based shelters, non-governmental aid organizations, legal nonprofits, and refugee assistance agencies working together. Biden will dramatically increase U.S. government resources to support migrants awaiting assessment of their asylum claims and to the organizations providing for their needs. So how much different in tone, tenure, and goal is that? I just thought that was awesome. And then also, right now, the process when people are detained is there is no high-quality, efficient case management system.

So that results in a prolonged, indefinite detention for asylum seekers at the border. And again, that's intentional. If they hear that their relative, friend, cousin has been picked up and is sitting in detention indefinitely and they don't know when they're going to get out and they've been separated from their family that scares the shit out of people because it's horrible and that's not how you treat other human beings who need your fucking help so biden instead is going to create a case management system so we can actually process all of this we can actually get through this stuff and facilitate they've done so many things they proposed so many new regulations based on immigration. They tried to

stop asylum using COVID as an excuse at one point this summer. They put out proposed regulations on that. They tried to shorten the application time frame at one point. The asylum application, by the way, is 14 pages of instruction.

Jesus Christ. 14 pages of instruction 14 pages of instruction every single question has to be answered and it's the the instructions are written out like when you read our income tax you ever tried to read an income tax form and you look at yourself and you think there's no that was fucking random generated that's no human wrote No human, that's what it's written like. Sometimes when I read stuff like that, I'll get so frustrated, I'll take a break

and build Ikea furniture. Like, it's just, but seriously, these, these, these are really specific,

hyper-specific forms and these people who come here, English might be their second language, probably is their second language. They, they are, they are here as asylees. There are some pro bono attorneys, People who come here, English might be their second language, probably is their second language.

They are here as asylees. There are some pro bono attorneys, but they also did another thing, where they tried to limit the amount of time that it takes an asylee to even process, to even submit their paperwork. So they wanted to lower it down to 14 days. Well, if you're a pro bono attorney, the more timeframe you crunch into that means the more time they have to work on that one case in that short amount of time. If somebody's doing something for free, you're essentially making it much harder for that free worker to do that work

if you cut the timeframe down. And so that's what they, they wound up doing this. They wound up proposing all these different regulations over the summer. You know, and one of the things that they said was, if one thing was not written out correctly on this application, they could return it to you. And then you're still within that 15-day period or 14-day period. So if you don't get it back to them or whatever, if they don't get it, they just send you away.

They just let you go forever. And so if you get refused or if your application gets refused because it's incorrectly filled out or you didn't fill it all out, it's like trying to study for a driver's license, only having 14 days to do it. And then if you get one tiny thing wrong, you never get a license for the rest of your life. That's fucking crazy. You know what I mean? That's how it was fucking crazy. The stakes are so high.

You could make a nonsensical error. Like to be like, you can make such a small error. That's not like, yeah, I've got, you know, pockets full of drugs or something.

It's well, these are administration errors. Exactly. Well, and then, I mean, they might as well just put a fucking ninja warrior course at the end of drugs or something. These are administration errors. Exactly. Well, and then, I mean, they might as well just put a fucking ninja warrior course at the end or something like that. If it's that hard, it's ridiculous. And these people need, they need lawyers.

They sometimes don't have access to computers. They don't have access to phones all the time. These are, this is hard for them to do. This is not an easy thing for them to just walk right in and do. And we expect that it is or that they have some period of time. But they were trying to cut all those things

down with proposed regulations over the summer. So, man, they've been doing horrible shit for a long time. For a long time. And so I'm glad to see this new leaf get turned over with this administration. The labyrinthine and bullshit system that they create

results in such arbitrary decision making yep you know like it's capricious and it's arbitrary it'd be like it'd be like if they said like not even ninja warrior like it'd be like if they said all right um whoever wins the next game of hungry hungry hippos gets in you're like that game is just what yeah it's got to win hungry hungry hippos like i that doesn't yeah fucking get to hippoing stupid fucking you're wasting time you're wasting time yeah you have to be eating marbles asshole after after we do that we're doing hungry hungry hungry games this this this one i think is terrific too reverse trump's public charge rule

so the public charge rule was that bullshit rule that was like, Hey, you know what? If you take any sort of government services, such as snap benefits or Medicaid, um, then that's going to undermine your ability to get, to, to, to have access as an asylum seeker. You can't have them both, right? We're not going to, we're not going to feed kids. Like you come here, you got hungry kids to have, fuck them. Doesn't matter. That is reversed. Yeah. That's just reversed.

That's over. That's fucking gone. That was mean. It was just mean is all that was. What I love too is like we have had so many people in this country try to do the snap challenge and realize how fucking horrible it is to try to live on whatever is $26 a week or something like that. And what you,

what you have to consume in order to do that. And it, and, and, and yet we still somehow think that we shouldn't tax Amazon or something. It's such a weird, it's so weird, man.

Billionaires get tax cuts, but man, we shouldn't give those, those people who walked a thousand miles to get here from their war-torn country, we shouldn't give them $26 a week. Yeah, right. A week?

I almost said a day. I almost said a day. If I walk to Guatemala or from Guatemala, I should get presents. I should get presents every day. Monthly benefit for one person is $194. So that's about 50. It's less than 50.

It's less than 50 a week. It's $6.46 a day. $6.46 a day times seven. It's $45 a week. So it was more than what I said. I said $26. It's $45 a week. $6 a day.

You're going to eat on $6.50 a day? You can't eat three meals? You can't get a pot belly sandwich for that. Holy fuck. That's $2 a meal. Yeah. $2 and change a meal. $2.15 fucking cents a meal.

Yeah. Are you fucking kidding me? Yeah, that's real fucking generous. Jesus Christ. Also, he's going to end the so-called national emergency. And that's referring to the funding of the bullshit wall that never got fucking built or only got partially built and was always a fucking joke and will always be a fucking joke.

Exactly. Well, it was the only reason he did it was because it was a campaign promise. But do you remember? I know we had some guy that was a talking head that we played or you and I watched it or something

where they were talking to experts and people, Republicans that have borderline districts that were saying, no, a wall is stupid. What we need is these things which are more high tech,

have better chances of detecting people and can actually deter the horrible stuff that's happening. You know, that it's getting across our border. Right. Everybody was on board. No one, no one thought a wall was a good idea.

Every single person thought it was a good idea to do the other things, which is what Biden's going to do. Yeah. The wall was always just a symbol. Like it was just a xenophobic symbol it was never anything else like they weren't fucking staffing with john snow yeah uh protect dreamers fucking finally fucking finally can we just be can we get to the point where the dreamers are just like oh it's the best and the brightest yeah are we just like hey you're a citizen now i wish we could get there

i will say this stop doing this executive order do-si-do quit with the executive order dreamers are a do-si-do because obama did it then trump took it back and then put it back in this needs to go in you guys have the fucking votes you got the votes to do this i know you got the votes to do this do this now do it now get the dreamers going now because if you don't, we're not going to, it's always going to be this one step forward, two step back bullshit. Yep. We're also rescinding the un-American,

as he puts it, the un-American travel and refugee bans, also referred to as the Muslim bans. This is important because there is no national intelligence agency that has said that these bans do anything to prevent or deter terrorism. Nothing. The thing is, the intelligence community from the jump has said, that doesn't do anything.

Yep. The intelligence communities have not supported that move as being valuable in the fight against terrorism. valuable in the fight against terrorism. Again, it's just a fucking dog whistle to the folks that want to see this symbolic banning of anyone that's not white. Absolutely. And this is important too because the Supreme

Court upheld that executive order. It went all the way to the Supreme Court and the Supreme Court said, no, that's cool. So yeah, get rid of it. And that's the thing is the Supreme Court can say that's cool yep so um so yeah get rid of it and they like that's the thing is the supreme court can say it's cool all they want but he can still get rid of it so yeah just get i'll just rewrite the shit oh well it's gone the end cross it off that's it but you know your point

before again like all this needs legislation is how we fix this executive order back and forth your point is well taken cecil like that stuff's got to just be it's just got to be over um we're ending the trump administration's uh decision to rescind protected status for hundreds of thousands of people fleeing countries impacted by war and natural disasters without regard to current country conditions um that's just it's just gross that's just horrible like why would you do that my country's been fucking ravaged it's like yeah but you come from a quote shithole country so it doesn't matter fuck you you know if you came from norway would i can take in yeah

and this one is fucking bonkers too because i can't and i read a bunch of stories over the last four years where this happened protect and expand opportunities for people who risk their lives in military service biden will not target the men and women who served in uniform or their families for deportation. Fuck. Yep. He will also direct the secretary of Homeland Security to create a parole process for veterans deported by the Trump administration to reunite them with their friends and families and military colleagues in the US.

I didn't realize it until like midway through the administration that there was a policy that allowed you to serve a full service term in the United States military and then get your ass deported. That's fucking unreal, dude. It is unbelievable that we would accept. I don't understand a world that we live in where service for like four, six, whatever years of service in the military, you don't come out and you're just not automatically a citizen. What the fuck is that even about? I'll let you absorb a bullet for this country

with your fucking flesh. But I won't give you citizens. I wouldn't do that and I am a natural born citizen. And deporting people that get out of college you're just like you you came here you went to college and then and then you want to stay here yeah and you you know you're you graduated college and we say nah that's promoting brain boredom it is literally

promoting brain drain it's stupid it's just you read through these hundred days and this is just the immigration stuff but it is so heartening because there's an empathy that lies at the heart of this, right? There's an empathy that lies at the heart of all of these policies. And that empathy, it's important to realize too that empathy has better results. Empathy, it's not like we get less when we're empathetic. We always get more when we're empathetic. Empathy has better overall results. It's better for your quality of life. It's better for stability. With this Machiavellian fucking chess game, chess match bullshit, doesn't work.

All it does is create tit-for-tat responses and creates further divisions and exacerbates tension with enemies and creates wars and trade wars and intelligence disasters and you know increases uh radicalization and terrorism it doesn't do anything all the research shows honestly all of the research shows that empathy when it lies at the heart of your decision making yields better results so even if you weren't doing it because you actually cared, you should do it because you're like a Vulcan or something. Right. Honestly, though, it's sometimes the right, sometimes it's really convenient when the right thing is also the most expedient and the most pragmatic thing. Oftentimes, more often than not, that's actually true. And it's weird

how infrequently we recognize that. I'm going to get an email. Vulcans are actually empathetic. I just want you to know that. Oh my God. Oh my God. So Tom, before we skip off of Biden, let's talk about his 17 executive orders he did in between his inauguration and his inauguration celebration.

I guess he went into the office real quick, tore a button out of her Diet Coke and signed 17 things real quickly. So let's talk about him. Restores the Directorate for Global Health, Security, and Biodefense at the National Security Council that Trump disbanded. Can't imagine why that would be

important right now. It seems really important. Maybe it's a good idea to refund that. It's hilarious that once Trump realized that everybody was saying, why the fuck did you defund that? He never did. What's crazy is that there was clear,

people were clearly saying, hey man, you fucked up by defunding that. Maybe we should, he never, he just, he just stuck to his guns. He stuck to his guns. It's so crazy to me because people are like, no, that was clearly a mistake. We should go back. No, I'm not going to. No, I don't admit mistakes.

And fill it in. You made a mistake, not me. I've never made a mistake. He also signed a statement that said, an executive order that said, social distancing and wearing of masks on all federal property and by all federal employees. So that's now an executive order.

He reinstated ties with the World Health Organization. Oh, thank God. Dr. Anthony Fauci will be the head of the U.S. delegation. He bolstered the DACA. And so he basically, you know, we talked about that already, that he was going to do that. So he did that already. He revoked the Trump's administration plan to exclude non-citizens from the census count,

which is, again, you're talking about the number of people here, not just like, it's not just the number of people you want to count. Well, Trump was only counting the people he thought were humans. Yeah, well, you can be a

citizen if I pull you out of the hat and it's not a practice. Another one of his overturns a Trump executive order that pushed for aggressive efforts to find and deport unauthorized immigrants. He ended the Muslim ban. We talked about that.

Halted construction on the border wall. We talked about that. Signed a letter to re-enter the Paris Climate Accords, which then Ted Cruz said that we care more about Paris than we do about Pittsburgh. And people were saying to him, Ted, you realize that they were just signed in Paris. It's not that we care about Paris Air.

And then the best part was this Greta Thunberg posted today. She said, congratulations to the US for signing the Pittsburgh Agreement. That's amazing. So good. I saw those call-outs. They were amazing. They're so good. Revoked the Keystone XL pipeline.

Rolled back the vehicle emission standards. We talked about this on the show a while back because Trump was super butthurt about that and he did that. He wound up ending an executive order. He entered Trump ending, in the executive order, he entered Trump administration's 1776 commission, which had distorted views on slavery. I don't know if you saw this.

I did. It was a response. He was so butthurt by the New York Times 1619 project. That's what that was based on. He commissioned an entire project, the 1776 commission, in response to the New York Times' 1619 project because he felt

so personally aggrieved by the recognition of how much slavery had an impact on the founding of this nation. Such a petty human being. But it's gone now. It's gone now. It's a piece of shit is what it was. It's awful. Not a single historian. Not a single historian was involved in that

commission. He also revoked an executive order limiting the ability of federal Not a single historian. Not a single historian was involved in that commission. Yeah. He also revoked an executive order limiting the ability of federal agents, contractors, and other institutions to hold diversity and inclusion training. So Mr. Trump had had that in place to limit it. Biden revoked the limiting of it. So now there can be diversity training. They took diversity training out.

Unbelievable. This offends white people. Yeah, I know, man. He was literally, he was literally a white person shield. That's what he was in office. It was ridiculous. Yeah.

So federal moratorium on evictions. It's going to last until March. Moving to continue a pause on federal student loan interest and principal payments through september he ordered all of the appointees in the executive branch to sign an ethics pledge uh and i guess they all got promise rings too afterwards i don't know um and finally mr biden issues a freeze on all new regulations put in motion by Trump during his lame duck period because he wants to look at all of them

to make sure that they're not crazy and most of them are. So, yeah, he basically said, we're stopping everything you did just to look at it. Yep. Pause.

We're hitting the pause button on you're crazy. Just to look at it. Did you see, like, one of the last things that Trump did on his way out was to rescind one of the first things he did when he arrived. Yep, yep. one of the last things that Trump did on his way out was to rescind one

of the first things he did when he arrived? Yep. Yep. One of the first things that he did when he arrived was he put, and he made great fanfare about his Trump sign an order that basically said, when you leave politics, you can't go get a cushy job as a Washington lobbyist, which is a great order. I, we talked about it four years ago. I supported that.

I was like, yeah, all alright, that's great. I actually support that. He fucking rescinded that on the way out because he wants to make sure that him and his cronies can get great jobs as lobbyists in Washington. Where's all you drain the swamp assholes?

I wonder what you're thinking. That is so unbelievably hypocrite. I mean, not're thinking. That is so unbelievably hypocritical. Not that it matters. It is 100% on brand. It is. It is. 100% on brand. Oh, Cecil, one other thing. They didn't put it in the

show notes, but one other just deliciously funny piece from Wednesday and Tuesday night. Did you see that Joe Exotic had a limo? He had a limo. He had a limo with a barber. In the limo, the barber

could trim his hair into his trademark mullet. He was so sure, Joe Exotic was so sure that he was going to get a pardon from Trump that there was a limo all day, all day idling and waiting in the fucking jailhouse parking lot with a fucking barber just like, oh, I'm going to cut that fucking

mullet. I'm fucking ready for this. It's crazy to me to come across somebody who's more delusional than Trump. Yeah, I know. Joe Exotic definitely is. Joe Exotic is 100% more delusional than he is. Yeah, we're going to let you out because you fucking attempted murder somebody. Get the fuck out of here.

Psycho. I also love how clueless that is to the administrative policies around being released from prison. Very often it still takes a day or two for them just to get all those ducks in a row. So even if you're... Yeah, I guess I didn't think about that either. It's not like very frequently it happens that you find out that you're being paroled or you find... And they set a date for your release. It's not like they just say, cool, bro, get your shit.

I mean, it does actually happen once in a while. But more often than not... They press a button and say, find your own way out. Right. Yeah, they don't just say, oh, I fucking take the fucking handcuffs off and give him a pair of blue jeans. You're a free guy. It's a little more complicated than that. Yep.

Yep. So fucking great. He did release a slew of those right as he was leaving. Steve Bannon got one. Steve Bannon got a and then he also, there was like a cyber stalker. He pardoned too.

There was a weird cyber stalker that he thought, oh, that's cool. We'll let that guy go. Um, and then a couple of rappers. Yeah. Well,

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pay a cost for this right um anti-vaxxing flat earth uh the q anon stuff all of that stuff, it's not consequence free. And so it should not be socially free. There need to be prices that are paid for spreading not bad ideas, but bullshit ideas. Harmful, nonsensical, bullshit ideas. Ideas that are grounded not in a difference of opinion, but in a difference of reality a set of facts a different set of facts yeah and what's crazy is is that we just lived through four years of where the first week and i know people don't remember this because it all bleeds together but in the first week of his presidency, we heard the term alternative facts. It was in the first week of his presidency, of Trump's presidency.

So we lived through four years of people lying, of people outright lying to you. And this is another perfect example of lies should have consequences. The lies that these people told about all those voting machines are starting to have consequences, especially for the lady who wrote the Kraken, right? Yep. Yeah, Sidney Powell is getting sued by Dominion. Billions of dollars. This isn't a little

lawsuit that she's just going to shake off. She could feasibly be on the hook and she's not worth it, but she just could ruin her career forever and ruin her near-earning but she just could ruin her career forever and ruin her earning potential for the rest of her life and make her... It essentially basically is like a

libel suit from the company saying you can't prove any of the things that you've said. You've said on television. You saw what happened right after they came after people. As soon as they started wielding their legal weight, and we talked about it on the show.

Yes, we did. As soon as they started saying, no, you can't say that shit, we'll sue you. All those fucking news corporations that do have a lot of money, immediately backpedaled, immediately rolled back. Newsmax, I watched the Newsmax segment

that's linked in this article. You should check it out. If you're reading this, check out the show notes, read this article. Check this out because the Newsmax. I watched the Newsmax segment that's linked in this article. You should check it out. If you're reading this, check out the show notes, read this article. Check this out because the Newsmax, it's so fucking beautiful because I was in an argument with this guy who listens to the show who started telling me that the voting

was all rigged. And I said, it's not all rigged. You're crazy. And we were arguing back and forth. And he would send me five or six weird blogs that would said stuff that the headline didn't even match what they were saying and then i would basically retort with here's a snopes article here's a snopes article here's an a reuters article that debunks that here's a fact check.org article that debunks that and he would say oh well fact check.org got something else

wrong so they're not there's're something you can't trust. We had this argument back and forth where he would not trust my sources and I wouldn't trust his, but I was using trusted sources for all the things. And also mine made sense, right? The things I was sending made sense. I would, I would corner argue

that the things you're saying don't make sense and he wouldn't, he didn't, he wouldn't take it. And he was relying on a lot of these things from Newsmax and OAN. But once this came out, they stopped doing this sort of thing. They basically said, Oh no, what we,

we've never really said that it wasn't accurate. And we never said this. And they're basically shouting out all the company talking points would say, we know that never, none of that shit ever happened. And they had to roll it back because there's consequences. The thing is that when a company won't put its money where their mouth is, they were fucking lying.

They were lying the whole time. The New York Times doesn't have to do this shit. Nobody's suing the New York Times for libel. The New York Times publishes their own retractions. Without threat of lawsuit. This is no different than Alex Jones being like,

oh, it turns out, get the fuck out of here. That was never, it was always bullshit. It was bullshit from day one. And I do, I saw this and I thought, man, I wish the lawsuit still went forward. You know? Because

retraction or not, the damage is fucking done. And I think precedent needs to be fucking set and i think media companies need to start getting sued media companies need to start doing a better job fucking vetting that is your job your job as a media company is to vet and then report not to report without vetting if you report without vetting if you report rumors as facts i mean we listen to we talked about in the last show listen to the former president try to convince the secretary of state of georgia what was he saying well there's these rumors that there's these rumors that because we

are at a place where we've decided not to distinguish between rumors and facts that the presence and ubiquity and repetition of rumor makes something more likely to seem true. And that's true of us just psychologically. You see something 10 times, it feels more true the 11th time that you see it. That's just part of how we're all wired. We have to work actively against that stuff. Media companies should be held accountable to that. They need to do this work. Do you remember the fucking Axios interview when Trump said, read the books, read those papers, read the books. And the guy looks at him and says, what books?

And he says, read the books. And he says, what books? And then Trump- Lots of books. And Trump literally just skated right over it. Because there are no books. One, Trump's never read a book. But then two, there are no books. One, Trump's never read a book, but then two,

there are no books. There's nothing. He's, he's, he does this all the time and he, and a lot of other people do this all the time where they'll say, yeah, that guy said,

or I know an expert who said, or I know this, or I read a book that said, or I saw that's in this. It's the rumors say that this, all that's bullshit. It's all bullshit. And especially when it say that this. All that's bullshit. It's all bullshit. Yeah.

And especially when it comes to something as important as the integrity of the United States voting system. You can't say the rumors say because that's who fucking cares. No more Internet sources. No more anonymous fucking sources. You don't know who Q is. Then it's fucking lying to you. It's a lie. It's nonsense. It's all fuck. If it's fucking lying to you. It's nonsense.

If you can't back it up, it's nonsense. It used to be the journalists did this work for us. But we're in a place where they're not doing this work for us anymore. It's hard. It really used to be a journalist's actual job, right? It was to run down a story.

I think part of the problem now is that part of a journalist's job is to write lots of stories. There's a volume issue we have to contend with. But that volume of information doesn't mean we have high-quality information. We have high volume. We have high quality, medium quality, and low quality. Now it's our job as information consumers to parse that. And that's harder than it's ever been.

And that acceleration of change was extreme and sudden. And I can understand why a lot of people feel left behind by that because our tools that we were raised with are no longer the appropriate tools to read and understand the world. We've got to sue our way into fixing that. But until we do, we as consumers need to be real fucking careful. We have to, and there has to be consequences, 100%.

And the people who, you know, the people who raided the Capitol, the people who caused those people to raid the Capitol, you know, I love that Nancy Pelosi is saying constantly, and she said it three or four times today, I saw different clips from her, where she said, I will not let Trump off. People died. People died. And we can't just have you rev an entire country up for months. Even if you could say, well, what he said on that podium that one day didn't rev anybody up, which I think it did, but whatever.

Regardless, I listened to the Daily this week. I don't know if you heard that daily this week but there was a daily this week where they talked to the republicans uh who lost they just you know that now they they they're they're adrift they don't know what to do they're completely adrift right and they found the craziest ones to talk to who a hundred percent think the election was stolen and rigged. And it's because Trump spent two full months webbing that crowd up from home saying it's the biggest fraud ever. I won this election by a lot. I won this election by a lot. He's a trusted figure. Regardless of whether or not he tuned those people up on that podium or not, he did it for two straight months. There needs to be something that happens to him. And there's a part of this article I just want to

read. It says, the price of armchair theorizing is low, usually. It costs almost nothing to post crazy things online, aside from mild social stigma. But the cost is more offset by other benefits for many. For a lot of fringe figures, like the anti-vaxxers of Flat Earthers, QAnon, and Conspiracy Thieves, espousing an extreme belief is not necessarily about the truth. It's about asserting a unique, memorable identity and defending it against outside threats. And I thought to myself,

this is the new, I like a more obscure band than you. This is the new, no, I like them before they got popular type of thing that we used to do in high school. That you would find, people would say, what the hell is that band... No, I liked them before they got popular type of thing that we used to do in high school. That you would find... People would say, what the hell is that band?

Oh, I like a very obscure band. And I was one of those kids. Don't get me wrong. I was one of those kids. I'm not making fun of those kids because I was one of those kids. But recognize it. I recognize it.

That's what this is. That's what this feels like. Finding a place... And you talk about when you were a little younger, how you used to just go on the internet to just get into a fight. I want to get into a fight today. That's still a thing, man. People still do that. And like he says, a memorable identity and defending against outside threats. And that's like you take a position and you stand and I take it. Yep. Yeah. we're still in the growing stages and the

growing pains and figuring out how all of this works and so far it's not working very very well yeah it's working very poorly and we have to be fucking super careful we're we're we are more and more tying our personal identities in with our political identities. Who we are is now more tied up than ever in our politics, more than at any other point in any of our lives. And I think a big part of that is because we spend more time fighting about it. And the more time you spend fighting about something, generally, the more entrenched you become in your beliefs and then you know we also spend more time surrounded by pixie choosy choices by the people that continue to reinforce those beliefs this is all quite dangerous and we need to guard against it individually because our identities need to be about more than that our identities when we were kids was more than just

that obscure band that we liked yeah yeah you know and that's because we were forced all the time to contend with people who never heard of that band in the first place yeah and we're now in a new space where we can hang out with only people that love that band and that's a scary spot to be in right because you know here there be incels. So I want to thank our new patrons. Of course, we want to thank all our patrons. I want to thank our newest patrons.

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five, two, five, five. Stiney. That's a throwback to, uh, to Homestar Runner, which I like quite a bit. So thank you very much for that. And fuck your face. I don't say it like Heath.

So I'm not going to say it like Heath. He says it differently, evidently. He says fuck very long, but I'm not going to. I don't want to copyright infringe on Heath. And Heath has long arms. He's got a good jab. I'm sure he's got a great jab. Heath has a great jab. Guaranteed. He's got a good jab, I'm sure. He's got a great jab. That's his thing. Heath has a great jab.

Guaranteed. The reach. He's a orangutan reach. Are you kidding me? From across the cake. Great jab. Heath in a cage. Makes me laugh so hard.

Just squeeze him through the bars. Oh, gosh. Pop his head off like a dandelion. Just give him a hug. It just shoots right out of his body. So Cecil, before you do the email section, I just want to mention that I was recently on Serious Inquiries Only.

Thomas was kind enough to have me on as a guest. Eli, several weeks ago, Eli had come on. He had some conversation about Pornhub and the article that Chris Stoff from the New York Times, the opinion piece that he wrote. I thought Eli may have missed some important points, so I got on to offer a rebuttal.

That episode is available over at Serious Inquiries Only. So if anyone's interested in that topic, you can head over there and check it out. I thought the conversation was very good. Yeah, I listened to it. It was a good conversation. Both of those episodes are worth listening to on Pornhub, so check them out. And I've got to be honest.

I really like Thomas' show. I think Thomas has got a great show. We've been a supporter of Thomas' for a while on Patreon. We were a supporter, I think, of Thomas and the Bible, and he closed it down. So we shifted over to

Sirius Inquiries only, but it's genuinely a great show so if you haven't checked it out you really should Thomas Thomas I think is a person who who does some really

he has some very excellent conversations and they're worth listening to absolutely so we we got a message and I got this I didn't see this until too late

we got an image and we were talking about it a little bit on the stream tonight, but the, the Bernie gifts, the Bernie memes from him at the, at the inauguration was mints on are amazing. And we got a, a gift here and it's so good.

Jay sent it in. I'm going to have Ian posted on this week's show notes. It's really, really funny. We missed it on the stream, but it's so funny. Check it out on this week's show notes. It's episode five 61. So good. We got a ton of messages,

Tom, about our little musings about end-to-end encryption. Tom and I want to reiterate that neither of us know much about it, and we don't think that people should ban it. We were just wondering how powerful it was for nefarious sources to have. But both of us at the end of that, if you listen, we both very much said, neither of us know a lot about this and nothing we say in this should be considered a position. And we also both very much in that piece, I think, expressed that we want vulnerable parties to have access to point-to-point encryption so that they are not exploited.

And so we wanted to make sure we mentioned that. But a lot of people went out of their way to explain this to us. And it is something that I think Tom and I may wind up having a guest on in the future. A bunch of people suggested guests we may have a guest on in the future to talk about it. It's a really interesting topic that both Tom and I, you know, we're both boomers when it comes to this. We don't know a lot about it. I don't know anything about it. What is amusing to me is the process of wondering aloud caused a lot of concern and consternation. I just need to iterate. I don't have a position on end-to-end encryption. I have concerns, but those concerns are not necessarily

because I have concerns, I think it should not exist. There's a lot of things I'm concerned about. Sure. Okay, so Tom, we got a message, and there's an image here. And this image is of... What the fuck? This image says, first off, there's a pickle in a bag, which is, I know, Tom, you might eat this pickle, but I think that is disgusting, okay? I gotta say, pickle in a bag, absolutely the most foul

thing you could possibly imagine. There's a pickle in a bag, and someone has shoved a peppermint candy in the end, and someone has said on this image, I'm from Chicago where peppermints go in pickles, and they put a hearty emoji and then a, a lick your face emoji.

Uh, I have never heard of that before in my life. That's the most disgusting thing I could possibly imagine. I mean, I'm not a huge fan of pickles. I'm a one a year pickle guy. I know you're a huge guy. I'm like a one a year pickle guy. I ate three pickles. I'm a one a year pickle guy.

Maybe two a year pickle guy. Dill pickles. I don't eat them a lot. My wife loves pickled okra and pickled dill pickles. I'm just not that. It's not for me. But I will say I've never once seen in my life anyone pair peppermint and pickles, dill pickles.

It's never happened. It's funny because when I saw this, I was like, what the fucking what? I've never heard of this. There's actually a Chicago Tribune article about this phenomenon from 2017 and it is a highly localized phenomenon to certain african-american neighborhoods on the south side it's disgusting like that's i'm sorry it's not for yeah that's not a widespread chicago that's disgusting it sounds so bad it genuinely sounds like an epic hack it sounds like something that will make you throw up it It sounds like if you ate it, you would, you cannot keep things down. It sounds so bad. I would

eat a lot. I mean, I'll eat a lot of things with pickles in or near them, but a fucking peppermint stick? Yeah, not. Hard kernel. We want to welcome Jordan to the club here who has been listening to our entire back catalog. He listened from one to 560 episodes in a little under a year.

He said it took him 11 to 10 to 11 hours a day at work. And then, and then he would listen on a 12 hour shifts sometimes. So, and he also listened to all, he's caught all the way up on citation needed. So thank you, Jordan,

for listening to all our podcasts. Thank you so much. We expect you to be awesome. Expect you to be a patron. We gave you that much hours of content. Now, come on, come on,

Jordan. It's like a thousand hours of content. Now, come on. Come on, Jordan. It's like a thousand hours of content. So we also got a message from Craig, who also recently did the same thing, found us. And he said he found us after an appearance on Skeptics of the K. I do want to say we've never been on Skeptics of the K. They've never invited

us. We like Skeptics of the K. We've hung out with Skeptics of the K. Actually, I think only one of them likes us, Tom. I don't know. I can't be sure. I can't be sure Alice or Mike like us very much. We had Mike on once, but we've had Marsh

on multiple times, and I think Marsh might like us. I wouldn't put him in a corner. I certainly wouldn't put him in a corner and make him answer that question, but I think Marsh likes us, but I do enjoy their show, and I will say, if you've never checked out Skeptics to the question, but I think Marsh likes us, but I do enjoy their show, and I will say, if you've never checked out Skeptics of the K, it is a very learned,

smart, interesting show. Those three people on there are amazing. I mean, genuinely, Skeptics, I wish I could be. They are so good. So if you haven't listened, you should check it out. It's very, very good. Even if they don't like us, and even if they don't want to come on our show, Tom, even if they don't want to come on our show, Tom, even

if they don't want to come on our show, I'm still going to say we like them. You know, we met those guys in person and they walked away from us. Very true. We got a bunch of messages this week. Seth sends us a message with an image

that says Gwyneth Paltrow's vagina candle reportedly explodes in a UK woman's home. We got a bunch of messages about this. We talked about it on the stream this week, so you should check it out. We got a message on our blog, and it says it's actually illegal to encrypt beyond the capabilities of the government to decrypt.

I didn't know that. That's interesting. I didn't know that either. I didn't know that at all. I wonder about that because I remember all the hullabaloo where the government was trying to get an iPhone. Yeah, that's all. But you know, that does, I wonder about that because I remember all the hullabaloo where the government was trying to get an iPhone. Yeah, that's right. Do you remember that?

I do remember that. Yeah. And they, and then they weren't, they weren't going to let them in. They were saying they weren't going to let them in. Got a message from Matt and I'm going to talk about this cause this is my cooking channel season liberally.

You can find it on YouTube. It just searched for season liberally. And I posted a bread recipe and someone made it and they sent pictures and we're going to post a picture on this week's show notes because we can because it's amazing. Yeah, it looks awesome. And they made great bread and so we're very happy. Thank you so much for watching

Season Liberally. I recently made chicken strips here. If you're a fan of chicken strips, check it out. We got a message. This is from Sally and Sally says, I don't know if you knew this, but the mother baby homes were working until they didn't close And Sally says, I don't know if you knew this, but the mother-baby homes were working until, they didn't close until 1998, Tom. I didn't know that. Yeah, that's crazy.

And I know when I listened to that episode and how I phrased it, I said in the 19th and 20th century. And you're right. That does sound like it's a long time ago. I knew that this was going on well into the 1900s. Right. I didn't realize that the last one closed in 1998 i thought these were 60s 70s 80s that's what 1998 man i was holy yeah i can't believe it either that's insane dude i was i was out of high school man i was in college and there were still mother baby homes uh and uh graham sent in a message and said yes, John Ossoff is Jewish. And I don't remember if that

was on the show, Tom, or on the live stream where we were talking about whether or not he's Jewish. I think it was on the show. Okay. Yeah, because we were talking about whether or not he's Jewish. He is Jewish. And David Perdue evidently sort of made him an anti-Semitic campaign ad against him where he enlarged his nose using Photoshop. I can't

believe it. Yeah, and he claimed it was a filter. And I like this comment. Yeah, I'm sure we all have the anti-Semitic trope filter. That can't believe. Yeah. And he claimed, he claimed it was a filter. And I like this comment. Yeah. I'm sure we all have the anti-Semitic trope. So amazing. We got a message from Seth and Seth sent in an image where there is a home generators sign and I, you won't believe what they're powered with.

Check it out. This week's show notes. That's going to wrap it up for this week. Be sure to check out our live streams. This last week on our live streams, we raised some money for Ian. I will tell you next week, I think, or on the live stream, I'll tell people on the live stream how much we raised, but we had a tip jar

for Ian, and it was very nice. People who really enjoy Ian's work and Ian's commercials, we pay Ian, of course, and we actually think, and I'll be honest, we're going to flex a little here, but I think we pay Ian more than most people pay their podcast assistants.

So if you're a podcast assistant and you listen to this show, tell your bosses you need a raise because Tom and I pay Ian a very, I think, a very good wage and there's a lot of incentives for Ian to get more money. And so we think we pay him a very good wage, but there's a lot of incentives for Ian to get more money.

And so we think we pay him a very good wage. But we also wanted the audience to feel like they were giving Ian money directly. Because I know that they really, really do like Ian. And they really do like the stuff that Ian creates. And we wanted to make sure the audience felt like they could give him a tip and it would be given directly to him.

And so that's what we did. We facilitated this last week. Um, we don't see that that's going to be a thing that we do very often, but we wanted to do it once to sort of show appreciation for Ian and to show Ian that the audience very much appreciates him. Yeah. We pay Ian.

We would never give him just the tip. Leave it to Tom. Oh, you got to turn it into that. That's very good. Bravo. Leave it to Tom. Oh, you always got to turn it into that. That's very good. Bravo. Bravo. Well done. All right. So that's going to wrap it up for this week. Check us out on the live streams. We do live streams every Thursday, but check them out. And

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