Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 565: Knowledge Fight - The Insurrection
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fight hey that's us that's us i'm waving at you despite the fact that no one can see me.
We can see you.
And that counts for something.
I got to, before we get started though,
I just want to thank you guys for coming on our live stream in November.
We did save the Senate.
I just want to point that out.
We did.
We did.
Yeah, we did.
We did save the Senate.
And it was because of help from you guys
that everybody was able to pitch in and save the Senate,
even though while it was happening,
we were all wondering whether or not it was going to be a big waste of time.
It was not a waste of time.
And so we can rejoice that it wasn't a waste of time.
So I'm not,
not because I'm shocked,
not because something you guys did was a waste,
not a waste of time,
but because it's something that we were invited to be on had any impact on
anything.
It's a very strange feeling that night you know it's it's amazing when you celebrate something which you consider a win where you're like we barely by the skin of our teeth
one deciding vote with the vice president and mansion we win
i that night I realized
because my parents have been
conservatives like their entire lives
and I realized in that moment
that they haven't really donated any money
to conservative causes
so the most money
they have donated is by having
me and they gave it to the
Democratic Party.
How about that?
Take that, Loeffler.
Yeah.
Eat it.
Eat it, parents.
Are your folks, I'm curious for both of you, are your folks political?
What does political mean?
Like, are they out on the picket lines?
Why don't you define it?
My parents didn't storm the fucking Capitol.
I mean, they're not that political. Well, look, some people's
parents stormed the Capitol.
Like, it could have been yours.
Some people's grandparents.
Yeah, they helped that lady down the
stairs afterwards.
I don't know if I'm lucky they're not in jail
or if I missed out on a great story.
Last time
we saw you guys was before
it was like pre-insurrection.
So one of the
reasons why...
And then three days later, the Lord resurrected
himself and
it was a beautiful day.
We're going to have to redo
BC and AD.
Pre-insurrection.
Pre-insurrection. We. Pre-instruction.
We were seriously,
like,
the week it happened
on our show,
Tom and I were laughing about it,
but the next week
we came back angry
because there was more
and more stuff
came out about it
and things like that.
So,
I'm just curious though
and one of the reasons
why we wanted to have you on
was because
we watched an Alex Jones video
last week
where he was talking about
how they had it in for him and Trump
and they had totally tricked him.
But there's been sort of this weird thing that happened, right?
So like with the insurrection,
there's been sort of a convergence of crazy
between Q and Trumpism
and all the people who loved Alex Jones.
And so there's just this stream.
I feel like that lady on the Dark Crystal
who's like,
the Great Conjunction is the end of the world.
I feel like that lady.
But seriously.
Cecil, I have to make a quick correction.
It was not an armed insurrection though,
according to some senators.
That's right.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
So yeah.
If you have just, you know, pole arms,
that doesn't count.
That's not.
You just beat somebody to death with a fire extinguisher.
Everyone was wearing sleeveless shirts,
and those were the only guns I saw.
Those were the only guns I saw, and they were good.
Seriously, though, the insurrection happened,
and it's been sort of a convergence of crazy.
But we did want to know sort of where alex jones land sat on all this
because they are intersecting with q very hard right now yeah i mean i think the convergence
uh that you're talking about is kind of like it's kind of real but it's also a little bit of an
illusion like all those groups were fairly close together already but they're all petty and don't
like each other so like alex jones and q is fairly close other. So like Alex Jones and Q is fairly
close with some pretty
substantial and relevant
differences, but like at the end of the
day, they would obviously find common cause
and trying to keep Trump president. Yeah, and
the same would be found with almost all of the
Trump communities. Like when the rubber meets
the road, all three of those groups
that you're naming would be in allegiance,
but in sunny
times, they would argue with each other and be like,
no, JFK Jr. is
not alive. Yeah. Yeah.
No, it's like
Catholics and
Protestants, you know, like as a
voting block now, they're
unbreakable. But if the rest of us were gone,
they would be killing each other in the streets, you
know? Yeah.
Ireland or something. Yeah, Yeah. Troubles.
Yeah.
Ireland or something.
Yeah,
sure.
Yes,
absolutely.
We got the troubles.
If you're not to be totally clear,
Alex is not a Q guy,
but he,
no,
he's always had this sort of ambivalence to denounce.
If you want to call it that,
because he tried to co-opt it early on and tried to bring it into his
revenue stream. It didn't work.
QAnon labeled him controlled
opposition and like he works for Mossad
and the CIA
and all this. Wait.
Fucking what? You didn't know
that? That dude can't even make
payments on his, he can't even make payments
on his rented tank. How is he
working for Mossad? I don't even get it on his rented tank how is he working for massad
i don't even get it did his tank get did his tank get repossessed yeah it will i'm guaranteed because
that would be i just oh i just you got to imagine the day that repossession guy is like the what now
i gotta i want to see him try to drive it off the tow truck when it's on the tow truck i'm gonna see
him up there spinning the back wheels that's what i want to see
yeah um yeah he
uh they they did not like him
because he thought he was a shill and i
see that made him mad oh my god
impossible at the same time for
the last like pretty long time
until the capital uh
storming he still treated it
like something he could eventually maybe
work with yeah or like make
money off of and so he wouldn't he'd be like not endorsing it and sort of try to avoid the
question of it um and try to pretend like hey it's good people are researching you know it's
no big deal maybe some of the stuff's wrong but hey i'm all about it and then as soon as the
capital stuff happened it's uh it's basically the globalists yeah so q anon is global they infiltrated you with antifa and they've been using you as a
psyop in order to controlled opposition you into attacking the capital too soon because if we had
waited another couple of weeks and had a couple of million people we would have won yeah but also
the interaction was bad but not because we you
know it was bad because it didn't work it's bad because we lost so that was that was gonna be my
question is is is it is it his contention that the insurrection was a boo-boo because it didn't
it wasn't a successful insurrection well he wouldn't say it like that wow publicly probably
but he has said the exact same thing in a bunch of words.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because I have ever since the insurrection, I have wondered like, okay, if you guys all got your way, what do you think happens that's good here?
Like you hang Mike Pence outside on the gallows, you eat Nancy Pelosi's liver or whatever on the gallows you eat nancy pelosi's liver or whatever
on the floor of the senate disappears
that's the thing that everybody's like okay all right since you ate the second and third in charge
we'll reinstall the loser i'm trying to imagine osha is out.
Fine.
Cancel the EPA.
You win.
Whatever.
Just throwing doors open in the Capitol,
looking for the underground tunnels and the kids. And they're just like,
not that one.
Okay.
Next one.
Damn it.
Next one.
They open up a door and weirdly it's a pizza place.
Yeah,
man.
I,
but I got to ask though, like what waslex's role before and after i mean did you follow him before and after like while he was doing like well he was there that day right yeah and actually
i think i think the most interesting thing it doesn't actually involve him um because he was
out of studio one of his employees harrison smith was hosting his show on that day on January 6th.
And as people stormed the Capitol, Harrison was in studio and he's like cheering this on.
He's like, the Patriots have taken the Capitol.
The Capitol has fallen.
He said the Capitol has fallen.
Why was that?
Why is that?
Yes, America is no more.
That's where I live.
Yes, fuck me.
He was getting caught up in the excitement of it.
And then shit got too real.
And, you know, reports came out that, like, Ashley Babbitt had been shot and was killed.
It was Antifa.
It was Antifa.
It was Antifa the whole time.
It was Antifa.
It wasn't us.
The Capitol is falling, but it was to Antifa.
Now that's bad.
Very quickly, things started
backpedaling. This violence turned violent awfully
quickly. Did you guys notice that?
I think they realized
that it was obviously
not going to be a sustained taking over of the
Capitol. It looked bad.
Everyone was mad.
They had to blame...
The liberals are going to spin this
insurrection in a negative way
leave it to those fucking bleeding hard snowflakes to spin this the wrong way
the lame stream media is gonna have a field day wait till hollywood gets a hold of this
so he was there that day though right yeah but not uh i mean he was actually physically near
the capital but i've seen did he storm it i've seen some videos that he's released where he's
actually telling people to cut it out you know like he's clever yeah he's clever yeah he knows
he knows where he's like oh shit if they actually do this my money is gone. So the dollar won't exist if they win.
That's just how it works.
I told everybody to buy gold,
but gold is actually totally useless.
They don't know what they're talking about.
I can't run a boner pill
company if every state has their own currency.
Do you know what economies
are run well? I don't know, but
anybody who's wearing fatigues at the
time is not doing a good job. Yeah, no, probably
about a great job.
Probably a great job.
Guys with American
flag face paint.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Or a fucking bison hat on.
That guy's probably not a...
That's not your new...
He's a huge
quantitative easing guy.
So he likes to lower it. He's a fed guy. He is a fed guy. He's with the quantitative easing guy.
He's a Fed guy.
He is a Fed guy.
It's fairly easy to say we should not take governance
advice from anyone wearing face
paint. Just of any kind.
Halloween? No.
Still.
You never listen to Jets talk radio
because I'll tell you right now those guys have good
ideas. What about
late 90s
WCW sting?
I think he has some great
ideas. Exactly.
Okay, Kane wore face
paint. He didn't. He wore a mask
mask. Now he's the mayor.
So you can wear a mask
and become mayor.
Tangentially,
Tito Ortiz is now
from the UFC
is like
in charge of Huntington Beach.
He's like an elected...
Oh, he was elected?
He didn't just conquer it?
I thought you meant unofficially.
I was going to say,
when you say technically,
it's like,
what is he,
a warlord now?
He kicked over just enough
sandcastles to be the leader.
The debate, two minutes
into the debate, it was just a fierce
ground and pound. Huntington
Beach has fallen. Huntington
Beach has fallen. He's got
the guy mounted his backs up against
the lectern. He's just laying elbows
into him. You know, it's just
oh God.
Here's a guy with like fucking
more concussions than brain cells
and he's in charge.
He's in charge of your shit. So yeah,
Alex was there.
He tried to talk people down because
he had a stage on the side of the
Capitol where they were going to have another rally, and he wanted people
to go over there.
And instead, everyone was like, nah, fuck it.
He was the small stage at Lollapalooza?
He was the small stage?
He was side stage.
He was claiming that he had a permit to have a rally
there and that trump was gonna come or something i uh it's it's complicated but he's gonna come
to my rally i'll let him i let him show up did he get that opening guy from this from lollapalooza
that had all the fish hooks in him was he there too to be exact his opening act how you get like
bowling balls off his tits or whatever. I don't even remember.
He had the big guy who has a cannonball
shot at his stomach.
That guy's amazing.
Where are you guys going? I'm going to swallow
swords. Get back here.
So it didn't. God damn it.
Patriot dove into a cup of water. It was kind of
incredible. It really was.
It didn't work out.
And Alex retreated
to the roof of a hotel
and
started
a camera
set up on a roof of a hotel where
like the capital was in the background
and so they just started shooting
some stuff from there and him and Owen
Troyer started trying to figure out a way to
spin it. Like how is this Antifa's fault?
Yeah.
Despite the fact that we have
fucking Owen Troyer the night
before burning Black Lives Matter
flags screaming fuck
BLM over and over and over again
like, whoa, it was Antifa who did it.
But that's out of context. That's
out of context. That's fair.
The context is they want to kill
black lives matter protesters okay okay that was the context didn't help the context is that
they're horribly racist as long as you put it in that context it works out perfectly yeah yeah
it um it's it's interesting because a lot of people have got it a little bit twisted too
because there was a video that was making the rounds on Twitter of Alex Jones, Nick Fuentes and Ali Alexander inside a Capitol building.
And people were claiming that that was Alex the night before in the Capitol.
But it was actually from Georgia months prior.
And I see he's gotten to make a lot of like sort of deflections from his own behaviors and his own actions by saying like everyone said that
i was there the night before and they're all lying about me and it's just you know a mistake or a lie
that someone made on social media that uh now gives him a little bit of uh like a free pass
his his bullshit is like he's he set it up so sure he his rhetoric and all of the stuff he said inspired people to go to the capital
and then storm it but because at the very last minute like if hitler converted to christianity
and was like i accept jesus into my heart before he killed himself like he's he's he thinks he's
a hero now because he tried to stop people from doing it it's bullshit i love the idea that alex jones of all people was attempting to de-escalate a
situation that is not a skill set he has got in his wheelhouse alex jones of all people does not
seem like a comforting presence i don't know i wouldn't i wouldn't label it comforting but like
like let's not screw up the whole uh scam here guys. Yeah. Guys, we are entering territory where now the whole grift is a little shaky.
Rule number one is protect the grift at all costs.
If you guys hang Nancy Pelosi, my show is not going to be on air.
They're going to make it seem like it's my fault for saying that they should hang Nancy Pelosi
and I don't know why. Well, when you say it out loud
a bunch of times, people just think
you mean it. I didn't say that you should
be violent to her. I just said that she's
literally working for Satan.
And she's coming to your home to kill your
family. I don't know why you guys are acting crazy
about this. Now you've taken it to another level.
You've taken it to a different level. I think you're overreacting. Let me drive my tank around in peace. I don't know why you guys are acting crazy about this. No, you've taken it to another level. You've taken it to a different level.
Let me drive my tank around in peace.
I gotta, I gotta,
and maybe you guys don't know the answer to this,
I'm just asking, but you know,
it seemed fucking obvious
from the moment that they started
pushing this stupid fucking
stop the steal narrative that we heard
from the first minutes,
even before the election, right? Even before the election was over, we heard this stop the steel narrative that we heard from the first minutes, even before the election,
right? Even before the election was over, we heard this stop the steel nonsense.
And then once it got over, that's when they started pushing it more and more and more.
And you would have to be an idiot to not think that that was going to happen. I mean,
but he never took his foot off the gas up until that point, right?
No, no,lex did not and
actually he promoted that stop the steel really heavily that was run by ali alexander um and that
guy is a real weirdo uh but it's just the it's just the extension of what roger stone was trying
to do in 2016 he had enough he had his stop the steel uh back then and on InfoWars, they've already said a couple times that Roger and
Ali were working together. Yeah. So like
it's yeah, it's
yeah, it's all it was all pushed
straight through from before the election.
I mean, once again, there's a good argument
that Roger Stone could be charged with
a crime. So yeah,
it didn't take him long before the pardon
to be like, I'm free.
I just don't get like, I mean, it doesn't take a lot before the pardon to be like, I'm free now.
I just don't get like, I mean,
it doesn't take a lot of foresight to see that, that eventuality of the storming of the Capitol.
It doesn't take a lot of foresight to see that.
It seems like it was probably, I mean, like the night before,
I think everybody knew except for the people who were manning the Capitol,
right?
They were the only people who probably didn't know.
And everybody figured something bad
was going to happen.
I just don't see how Alex Jones can,
like, if he really does protect the grift,
you've got to take your foot off the gas
a little sooner,
just a little sooner, it feels like.
Or are you in it?
Are you stuck?
Like, are you stuck behind the wheel at that point?
You've got to go
because that's what everybody expects.
Yeah, what does it look like
if you take the foot off the gas earlier like what what what how do you how
do you give up on the idea that the election was stolen if you've quote-unquote proven that it was
stolen also also you could argue that he gave up he pulled the uh or he took his foot off the gas
pedal at the exact right time for his grift because he's still doing
fine. You know, he didn't get
he didn't get caught up in all the
whole stuff. So he's not getting charged. So
for his purposes,
you know, not the survival
of the Union or whatever
for his purposes.
It was the right time to
and it's a great grift because
the clip we listened to last week had him talking as if he was totally implicated in this.
Yeah.
And this is, they're trying to, they're coming after me because they know I know the truth.
Yeah.
And it's a perfect, he has all the legal way to separate him from it.
But then he's telling a narrative to everybody that's listening to him that he's so embedded in it.
And they were trying to get Trump and him to fuck up.
Yeah.
Before the impeachment,
he was insisting that he was going to be like the center of the impeachment
because it was about inciting people to storm the Capitol.
And then lo and behold,
no one really gave a shit.
No,
no.
We got,
we got a couple of,
uh,
uh,
more,
I would say tertiary mentions to the the uh monsters in the
impeachment nick fuentes i think yeah nick fuentes came up but aj had no chance and i bet he's still
kind of steaming that he didn't show up he wanted a shout out he wanted something in the impeachment
trial you know yeah they would go down in history i mean monstrously but
instead of just for real i have to wonder at some point if he's just like i just it's some
something i do has to be relevant i've done some you know at some point you just you're doing just
this crazy outlandish broadcastingly insane bullshit wackadoo stuff all day. And at some point you got to be like,
my guy's really just accelerating to here every time I can't,
what do I have to do to get the attention?
I desperately,
desperately seek.
If it doesn't work for me,
he's just going to start shooting people from the next roof.
He's on.
I can't stop imagining that nine minute long fight video that the
defense played where it's just everybody
constantly saying fight like if they just
spliced in one clip of
Alex just fight like
that would have been perfect.
That's as close to splicing
into one frame of a dick pic
as you can get.
Why not? Why not? You're going to get
acquitted. Nobody's going to be mad. Put a dick in there. It's like for us if you can get you know like why not why not you're gonna get acquitted nobody's gonna be mad
put a dick in there yeah it's it's like for us if if you know if you like make it into the fucking
credits of ocean 11 somewhere like way in the back or something you know like key grip yeah
i'm at a fucking movie i'm famous you send copies to your mom and shit yeah like that's all he wants i thought it was really cool
that during the impeachment someone quoted uh jared holt yeah yeah yeah that was i was really
happy for him because i was like oh you just got quoted in an impeachment you're in the congressional
fucking record you made it
have you guys heard of like so i i don't know if this is this is a connection or not
but we saw recently that marjorie taylor green was uh great moved from all of her assignments
has she ever come on the alex jones show or has she ever been involved with alex jones in the past
don't don't uh take this to mean more than uh it, but I think she's too smart for that.
I think she knows better.
Low bar.
Low bar.
Low bar. What's crazy is this Trump fucking didn't hurt Trump.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, yeah, but that interview was also like pretty short.
It was remote.
Like he just, he just video.
He called in.
It was a call.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it was pretty obvious that
it was like just pandering bullshit yeah like i but yeah it is still remarkable that trump did
that and it didn't have like a lasting consequence but he's also trump you know like yeah he's also
yeah right he's totally different marjorie taylor green doesn't have the kind of like clout uh that
could absorb that i don't think i think trump is at L. Ron Hubbard levels of just
like slavish devotion, so
what are you going to do, you know?
Yeah. He said it from the very beginning.
He's like, I killed somebody on fucking Fifth
Avenue and you assholes are still going to vote for me.
It'd be way funnier if he said, I could
have kicked somebody off of my boat
whenever I wanted to and made them drown.
I'm never paying taxes again.
Oh, man.
I never paid taxes in the first place.
How do we recover from this, man?
Like, really, genuinely.
How do we recover?
How do we recover from this?
I don't know. I don't have anybody all right wait a minute
man did that laugh make you feel encouraged i don't feel encouraged right now you're out here
for fucking hope assholes give me some fucking hope booking bad booking yeah yeah don't shake
your head i'm widely i'm widely known as a font of optimism i think
that's what i think that's what people describe me as often i barely have a pulse and he is half
dead there is no optimism around these uh these here parts yeah no i don't know it's a mighty
case it's an interesting question of like where do you go go? I don't know. I don't, I don't have any kind of solid view of what makes things work.
I just, I don't time.
I would say we should all organize together.
You know, they'd shut Facebook off in Australia.
And I think the first thing we should all do is try and destroy Facebook as much as possible.
We've seen Facebook kill our parents in many different ways.
So like,
let's just get rid of it.
Uh,
also,
I think we should destroy the power grid and go back to the dark age,
but that's just me.
I'm just throwing that one out there.
Texas.
Texas is one.
I had to go to Texas.
Yeah.
Right.
Wow.
Just straight up.
That's some lone stars.
I think we should do it ethically.
We should ethically destroy the power grid.
Yeah.
Fair.
I will say this.
24 hours notice.
Is that what it is?
You guys all have 24 hours notice.
Start driving now.
Go.
Charge up your shit.
I will say this though.
The wonderful silence that is Trump off Twitter
and not having that as a,
cause it's funny.
Cause I was watching video today.
Cause,
um,
uh,
uh,
human piece of shit.
Rush Limbaugh died today and lost,
lost a real one.
We lost that.
We lost,
we lost a fucking,
an absolute fucking asshole.
He and Hitler are drinking cocktails in heaven right now.
Absolute piece of shit.
But that dude, he got the congressional medal or whatever,
some fucking dumb medal that Melania gave him.
But he's standing up there and he's getting the thing tied around his neck.
And as he's standing there, they flash back to Trump's fucking fat face.
And I just realized how fucking wonderful
it is to not have to see his fat face and to not have to hear what he has to say. And really,
genuinely, they said there was a, there was a study that came out really quickly afterwards
where they counted, you know, the number of false stories that were spread. And Trump was a super
spreader when it came to false stories he's 77 percent
lower now that trump isn't the person who's spreading these things i'm sure that it that's
part of what reduces the spread and then also just like the cesspool that was his mentions
you know like when he'd tweet people would try to get traction by replying to his tweets
and people i think a lot of like misinformation also probably flew around
in there because it was like absolutely that almost
became a centralized place where
people would would interact, which is
fucking gross. But here's the thing
that I think that is even darker
about the how good it feels
for you to not have Trump on
Twitter. We could all just
have not experienced it at all.
Like we could have ignored him. Destroy Twitter as well. Yes. Yeah. Twitter, we could all just have not experienced it at all. We could have ignored him.
Destroy Twitter as well. Yes.
Twitter, Facebook,
Parler, Instagram.
I don't know. I'm
33. Those are the only four I know.
Is TikTok the thing? I've
heard it, but I thought it was a clock.
Jordan, hear me out.
Without a power grid, there is
no Twitter. Oh, see, now there we go.
Oh, my power grid idea was a bad idea
just five minutes ago, and now where are we?
Dry strips of venison
on the
highway.
We're going to have to figure out a lo-fi
way to podcast.
It's going to be tough.
I'm not making a zine.
Bang two rocks together. Zine put we'll get a bang two rocks
we'll get a we'll get a bunch of cups all right we'll tie them together with string
and then we'll talk into the cup and enough people can listen it's a party line no because
in four years after that we'll be, tear down the cups. The cups are... It's just...
The cups are full of Disney for me.
Somebody's yelling into the cup.
A bunch of racist, evil,
mean-spirited shit.
The key is
to not democratize
the cups. The key is
that you need to make sure you control
the cups from the beginning. We need cup keepers.
That's what we need. No cup for you. No cup for you control the cups. We need cup keepers. That's what we need.
No cup for you.
No cup for you.
The monoculture used to be all about the cups now.
Oh man.
It's so true, dude.
It's so true.
It already fell apart when everyone had a cup.
That's really what happened.
That is kind of what happened.
God.
Unbelievable. Yeah, it is kind of what happened. Unbelievable.
It is nice that he's not
on Twitter, although I
wonder I wonder how he's
doing with it.
I think everybody
imagines he's tortured
by not being on Twitter.
I bet he's not.
I don't know what I
would.
I would say that.
Yeah, I would argue
that maybe far more
than any like
impeachments or anything
as far as an impediment to him running again is just part of what made him endlessly available is the grievance that he could always claim on a day on a minute by minute basemask.
Every time he tweeted something, somebody tweeted, oh, you're an asshole.
And he could be like, oh, I'm always under attack by the left wing.
And now nobody's, you know, he's just alone in a fucking mansion don't fuck yourself but like i
every time i enjoy tweeting and you know like you can i don't you don't i don't tweet i used to
and you know i you did you can enjoy it sure sure sure sure wow fair enough you can you can enjoy
you can enjoy whatever like feedback you get from people and whatever
you know endorphin rush you get from attention but like if you're trump you don't think he's
just yelling at people in a room like that would be just as satisfying yeah that's fair i i yeah
but i don't the thing is like with twitter he had an avenue to to really like broadcast his
mean-spirited shower thoughts to everybody who had a
fucking phone and now he can't do so now he's just yelling at people in that room and they can just
leave the room or not come into the next room next time but before he had just this endless he had
this massive bullhorn so when you stand you know nobody ever thought of this and you just scream
some mean-spirited shit into the way you can't do it.
Every morning I read the New York Times and it changed dramatically.
It changed dramatically as soon as he was kicked off Twitter.
Every day before, every day for four years, I'd open up the Times and somewhere on the
Times would be like, you know, Trump said, you know, black people get back to the farm or whatever horrible
horrible shit that he said and now it's just he's not even on there now now like i think in the last
week it's something like trump promises to be relevant again i love and you're just like
discussion about how you're not blaming the times for this yeah i was gonna say
that's not Trump's fault.
It's partially Trump's fault. I like that none of us
laughed at the
black people go back to the farm thing because
that just wasn't out of
character. Like that wasn't
you know, you used to have to like
elevate things and you're like, I know that
wouldn't even bother me if Trump tweeted that. That's
like that's 50% level.
He said farm and not plantation.
That's actually a step up from
last week. It just doesn't seem like a period.
Do you think end of the day this thing helped him
or hurt him? AJ?
Yeah.
You think he's better off about the same?
I think it depends on whether or not
so as you were saying, you know, that
like convergence of Q people
and all of that nonsense I think
the only way that this works out in Alex
is positive is if people start
abandoning Q and going
to Alex
if he doesn't manage to
like swoop up enough of those people
then it's going to wind up hurting him I would
say probably it's kind of like a
breaking in
a pool game, you know, like I'm not
exactly sure where the balls are going just
yet, but like if enough
of the people from Q get disillusioned
but still want some reactionary
right-wing conspiracy bullshit, Alex
might have a chance to bring them
into the revenue streams, but
it's just as likely that people will see him
as a sellout who wasn't ready to
storm the capital when it was time to go
and it could end up hurting
it. Yeah, it's
really no reason to ban XQ.
That was really great. I was trying
to really trying to not say
Q ball.
It was really
tough. He's going to have
another chance. He's going gonna have another chance in march because
they're all the q people now have shifted their day because it was the 20th when biden was
inaugurated and then they said afterwards that no that's actually going to be march because he's
going to be actually the 19th president because the world became a corporation after the Civil War. It's really
hard to follow. Yeah, no, it just
checks out. Okay, it reminds me
when you say it like that.
Yeah,
yeah,
fellows. It reminds
me of the rapture. I think every
like five to ten years, we're gonna
get the rapture. You know that somebody's
going to be like, ah, it's coming. It's
coming. You mean a somebody's going to be like, ah, it's coming. It's coming.
You mean a remix of that techno song?
No, the band is the rapture.
We're just playing Blondie albums.
We talked about these guys,
the cute people as Harold Camping.
I don't know if you guys remember Harold Camping,
but Harold Camping was the guy who said
the world was going to end
and he literally gave a date.
And then the press is like,
hey, it's that day and it's not happened yet. And they came to his door and he's like, I mean,
I misread it. It's actually in October and they closed the door and then you never heard of him
again. And so the thing is, is that they gave a date and the problem is, is that they gave a date,
but they, there was a really interesting article, not an article. It was an interview I listened to.
I think it was on the daily where there was a Q woman. She's like a Harvard grad too. She wasn't just like some, you know, just somebody
who just did their research on the internet. This woman, you know, she's educated, you know,
at least you presume educated Harvard graduate. And she was saying, oh, uh, she was making up
excuses saying, oh, well, we've never really got a date. And, uh, you know, she, I mean,
she's a hardcore Q follower. Hundred percent.
Yeah.
Didn't even want to think about it before the end.
Yeah.
That's one of the misconceptions and biases that I think a lot of the media makes.
That's a big mistake, which is like pigeonholing and decrying people who believe in these sorts
of things as dumb or or or gullible.
Maybe gullible is closer.
But like there's there's there's so many different...
There's a constellation of reasons why people
are drawn to things like this.
It rarely has anything
strictly to do with intelligence.
It can be really marginalizing
and sort of counterproductive.
I would compare it to the
astronaut who drove across the country
wearing diapers and stuff where you're
like, you have reached the pinnacle of whatever it is you can,
but anything,
anything,
anything is susceptible to that kind of brain virus of like repetitive
thoughts and,
and actions along those lines.
Yeah.
Or things.
I'm not trying to excuse anybody by any stretch or things that fill
emotional hole that you might have.
Like that,
that's part of the reason that like a lot of the Alex Jones and QAnon stuff is so attractive and so hard to get away from.
It's because it's so satisfying of something that people need.
Whether it's intrigue, whether it's comfort, whether it's a reason why things are the way they are.
Easy answers for things is one of the major reasons.
Easy answers for things is one of the major reasons. Easy answers. Also,
just the idea that you're on,
you're sort of,
you're sort of revealing
something that's secret.
You're a hero.
You're a detective.
That feels good.
You're,
you're also the,
the winner of the,
yeah,
it's great.
It's great stuff.
And then you get to,
when you spread it to your friends,
you get to be the one
who told them about this,
I revealed this cool thing
to you sort of thing.
Yeah, right.
Listen to this band
I just found, right?
Like it's got like
that kind of feel to it,
which is nice.
It's called Hillary Eats Babies.
They rock.
Isn't that a band by now?
Not the whole baby,
just the face.
Just the face.
Come on.
You can't eat the whole,
the rest of it.
There's not even
any good meat on it.
That's the most offensive part.
Everybody knows you have to,
you have to use the whole baby.
Otherwise,
it's disrespectful.
Would you call that,
would you call that baby koa?
You know what I,
do you think that we are more susceptible?
Do you think that we are more susceptible
to this kind of thinking
because we're so much,
I was just thinking, in times gone by, there was this kind of thinking because we're so much...
I'm just thinking, in times gone by, there was so much of the world we didn't understand.
We didn't understand most of how the world worked, right?
Like, you know, whether it was going to snow tomorrow for most of human history.
Now we got it all figured out.
Everybody knows that.
Well, no, but what I wonder is like, for most of history, it's like,
if you're going to have a snowstorm tomorrow, I don't fucking know.
Did it snow today?
Ask the witch.
You have no idea.
And then as we learn more, we get closer to the idea that we should know everything.
And then we still don't.
And these kind of things give us an answer to all those, you know, like, oh, they fill in the blanks where it feels like we shouldn't have blanks.
Yeah.
And the questions become infinitely more complex. you know like oh they fill in the blanks where it feels like we shouldn't have blanks yeah and
the questions become infinitely more complex and sometimes there's so much gray area that even
experts have to be like i don't know yeah we don't know right yeah yeah um and yeah and that's and i
think like i don't know is more satisfying when like i don't know is the answer to a lot of
questions right when when i don't know is a more like normalized answer like it just was like
what what's the weather going to be like next week fucking what what are you even talking about it's
1682 the fucking weather's going to do what it's going to do now we have answers and we i think we
sort of like expect like what's wrong with me doctor well he'll fucking know well except for
sometimes they just don't you know but for for I wonder if we're more prone.
I wonder if we're at a place in history where we're more prone than ever before to this kind of. I mean, the fact that there is so many things that you can answer with, I don't know, is the opening for so many of these propagandists of like, well, see, they're saying they don't know.
But it's actually you can see from what's happened that what they do know is what they're killing you
with and so on you know as long as there's that we're you know at the beginning of the pandemic
there was that like we don't know if it's airborne yet we don't know all of those different things
and so there's that uh you know we use the metaphor of wet cement all the time of like
if you don't know something somebody can write their
name on that wet cement and uh fuck everybody over for a while yeah i can implant their their
own ideas before uh their certainty and it can really have uh yeah lingering consequences
it's an interesting thought of like if it is because uh uh like what you, what you, the, the, the, I don't know.
I lost my train of thought.
I'm sorry.
Listen, I'm, I'm leaning more and more towards none of you are real.
And this whole thing is a simulation because none of this shit makes any sense to me.
So I'm wondering why it is.
Uh, yeah.
Gentlemen, uh, if people were going to find your podcast, where would they look?
Are you kicking us off the show already?
Yeah.
We're done talking.
What did I do?
What did I do?
Was that explanation shitty?
Is that why the show is over?
Did I do a bad job?
I really feel like I lost my train of thought.
And then Cecil was like, no, we're fucking done.
I figured that we were done.
If you guys want to plug something.
I mean, is there something you want to plug?
I mean, you guys like have a
fucking book or something? Well, actually
Cecil's all in and then all of a sudden
just, all right, we're done now.
It hurt. It hurt a little bit.
You bored me. I got rejected. That's what happened
to me. That's why I screamed. Yeah.
Dan's far more polite, so he would have just let
the pain simmer until you guys
I would have blamed myself.
I'm glad I could invite
you on and then hurt your feelings.
I have
decided that instead of plugging
things in the future, what I'm going to do is
I'm going to give a shout out to dogs.
So I'd like to give a shout
out like just one of Jordan's dogs, Jake,
but not Fanny. Fanny doesn't get
a shout out. Fanny's the best. Okay.
Are you going to play this for Jake?
Then another special dog
out there named Tilifer Aniston.
So these
dogs are top of
the crop. I do like that. Yeah.
Check out those dogs.
If you're
around my house, go ahead.
Knock on the door.
Don't check out.
Yeah.
You guys have gone barking.
This segment is rough.
Double pun.
Look up knowledge fight
and sooner or later, you'll find everything we've done.
Probably sooner or later.
I mean, if you keep looking
that we're around, just just yelling
here.
Abolish the cops. Here's what you
do. Here's what you do. Search any
keyword that's similar to us and then
definitely go right to the second page of Google.
Do not bother with the first
page at all. You're not going to find
us there. No.
Thanks for having us. This is a lot of fun. Yes, this is
fantastic. Thanks for coming on, gentlemen. We appreciate
it every time. Thank you so much.
Always.
The thing that we can take from it,
academically, historically,
how does Davy Crockett like his pie?
How?
Alamode.
I got to go.
Yeah, me too
So I think we'd be remiss not to talk about this story
This story comes from KTXS
K Texas
Ugh K Texas
Colorado City Mayor Resigns
Colorado City is in Texas
Don't be fooled by the name
Colorado City Mayor Resigns
Responds to his controversialroversial Facebook Post.
Cancel culture fucking strikes again, Cecil.
It's gone amok, Tom.
It's gone amok.
Man.
Cancel.
Read this very innocuous statement by this guy.
So just a little bit of context in case you're an overseas listener.
Texas has no electricity or whatever.
listener texas has no electricity or whatever and they're like crying about it because it's
you know fucking five degrees or 19 fucking degrees right now in texas come on only what 25 people died right barely even a blip on the radar they have no powers of course they have no
heat and of course they have no infrastructure so their pipes are bursting and they can't drink water.
And blah, blah, blah.
Yeah.
Fucking.
We're kidding.
We're kidding, guys.
We're kidding, folks.
We're kidding, folks.
It's a horror.
It's a horror.
It's an absolute horror.
They literally are not ready for it in any way whatsoever.
They didn't know what the, they didn't know what was happening down there.
All the infrastructure is bad.
And this fucking,
this group of people like decided to take them off the main fucking power grid.
It's a fucking disaster designed by their leadership.
It's literally designed by their leadership.
Yeah.
This is an actual terrible thing.
And,
and,
and like Cecil said,
like 25 people have died so far.
There's another storm coming as we record this, ready to strike.
There's not really a lot of positive signs saying this is getting fixed anytime soon.
And those temperatures are genuinely dangerous, specifically for people who are really unprepared.
And their infrastructure, their housing is not prepared for this. Like I was looking and they were showing all these different places where pipes had burst.
And then they had like these apartment buildings where the water's coming down the walls and the
water's coming down the walls and it's frozen indoors, Tom, inside it's frozen. And it's
because they just don't have the kind of build like up here. If the power goes
out and the heat goes out in our buildings up here, you know, it'll get down to about 50 degrees.
It'll probably get pretty cold, but it probably would not get down to freezing for a while. It
would take it a long time. Cause it's well insulated. Cause it's well insulated down there.
They just don't have that same cold weather protection. Yeah. And your pipes are insulated.
The thing is when they, when they build a a house here your pipes that like run around your exterior
walls they're wrapped in insulation like you there's a there's a structure you just oh fuck
and you go turn your water off at the main and you're unlikely to have these probably none of
that none of that is it's a fucking nightmare down there. And this is what the Colorado city mayor Facebooked out.
No one owes you or your family anything,
nor is it the local government's responsibility
to support you during trying times like this, exclamation.
Sink or swim, it's your choice, exclamation.
The city and county, along with power providers
or any other service owes you nothing, all caps.
I'm sick and tired of people looking
for a damn handout. If you don't have electricity, you step up and come up with a game plan to keep
your family warm and safe. If you have no water, you deal without and think outside the box to
survive and supply water to your family. If you're sitting at home in the cold because you have no
power and are sitting there waiting for someone to come rescue you because you're lazy is a direct result of your raising.
Okay.
No, we got to stop.
We got to stop.
When in your life has not being lazy got you power?
Like, I don't even fucking get it.
Like, what could I possibly do besides ride a bicycle or run in a hamster wheel that happens to be on a generator?
That would literally be the only way not being lazy would get you power. Cecil, what world does
this sentence make sense? Power providers owe you nothing. They're supposed to provide me with power.
That's their reason to fucking be. They're a public fucking company.
What do you mean they owe me nothing?
They give me power, I give them money.
They owe me power.
No, that's not the fucking contractual agreement here, motherfucker.
And I think it's entirely reasonable to say,
hey, we built an entire society based on water and power infrastructure.
The entirety of civilized society in Texas assumes that there is water and power.
Where am I going to get water, Cecil?
If you're without water, just get it yourself.
From where?
I don't care how many fucking burpees I get.
I don't get drinking water. Right. You know what I mean?
Like, I can't unlazy myself
out of fucking a cup of water.
Yeah, get off your ass and just
go pick some electricity from
the electricity tree and
bring it home. Hold one of those
icicles under your arm and then it
drips down your arm and you're fucking
like, get the fuck out of here.
Oh, God. And I love, too, they say, like, and you're fucking, like, get the fuck out of here. Oh, God.
And I love, too,
they says, like,
if you're lazy,
that's the direct result
of my raising.
Well, then it's not my fault.
Right?
It's not my fault.
I didn't choose
to be raised a certain,
oh, fucking lazy kid
chose to be raised lazy.
Only the strong will survive
and the weak,
spelled wrong, will perish.
Did he say, did he spell it weak?
He spelled it weak and he spelled,
well, he said perish here, right.
He spelled weak, W-E-E-K.
Only the weak will survive.
So Sunday through Saturday is just fine, motherfucker.
The days of the week.
The days of the week.
Sunday, Monday, happy days. Sunday, Monday, happy days
Tuesday, Wednesday, happy days
the Fonz is so thirsty
Fonz walks up to the power station
and he's like
and it all starts to turn on
God has given us the tools
to support ourselves in times like this.
This is sadly a product of a socialized government where they feed people to believe that the few work and others will become dependent for handouts.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Handouts?
I can't stand on the corner and ask people for electricity.
Yeah.
I just can't do it.
I can't hold a cup with a fucking, be like, hey, man, can you spare a fucking gigawatt?
That's a fucking idiot.
Here's this Doc Brown standing outside.
1.21 gigawatts.
Hook up a cable to the old clock tower, guys.
And that's what you do, and you feed the homeless that way.
It's a fucking gigawatt.
Get the fuck out of here like the suggestion here is that people that don't work
somehow are the problem like plenty of people who work also get their power turned off it's
not like the power company's like are you gainfully employed because if not we're shutting
off your power they just shut off the fucking power.
Yeah.
Because the power went out.
Yeah, man.
Let me tell you, there's no fucking right to power or water in this country.
No.
You don't have those rights.
That's not a right.
That's not a human right in this country.
It's not a human right to get fucking medical care.
It's not a human right to get fucking power or water.
It's not a right to have a house in this country.
None of those things are a right.
So the idea, you're like looking for handouts.
Fucking who's looking for handouts?
Who's got, I don't know anybody
who's got free electricity. Well,
you know, I'm a socialist, so all of us
socialists get free electricity
and the capitalists pay for it.
That's how we do it. Stupid.
Am I sorry that you've been dealing without electricity and water?
Yes.
But I'll be damned if I'm going to provide for anyone that is capable of doing it themselves.
We have lost sight of those in need and those that take advantage of the system and mesh them into one group.
You're literally fucking attacking every person in need.
Yeah, right.
You have no compassion whatsoever.
We've lost sight of those in need.
You literally just blinded everybody to those in need. Like, right. You have no compassion whatsoever. We've lost sight of those in need. You literally just blinded everybody
to those in need. Like, it's
your fault. You just took our eyes out.
Fuck you. Well, also, like,
if you don't believe in government, why
are you the mayor? What are you
the mayor of?
Yeah, I'd like to be in charge, but I don't believe
in in-chargedness.
Oh, what a fucking
fool.
Bottom line,
quit crying and looking for a handout.
Get off your ass and take care of your own family.
Then again, bottom line,
don't be a part of a problem. I mean, he had a couple bottom lines here, Tom.
Hold on, you had two bottom lines?
He's got two bottom lines.
He's really a fan of the bottom.
So this is like a PBS bottom line?
This is the second one?
Okay.
He's a double bottom, Cecil.
Okay.
Bottom line, don't be a part of a problem.
Be a part of the solution.
Don't be a part of a problem.
Be a part of the solution.
Then later.
Okay.
Then later, he gets-
This is the-
Now, hold on now.
Yeah.
Then he had to fucking roll it back because everybody was like, you're asshole i can't believe you're in charge of anything right all i have set back
not sat back i have set back and watched all of this escalating i've tried to keep my mouth shut
i won't deny for one minute what i said in my post this morning believe me when i say that
because you can't deny things that are fucking incontrovertibly in writing yeah why what would be the point of denying that I mean I guess I guess we've we've made a
habit out of that in 2020 but believe me when I say that many of the things I said were taken out
of context I just read the whole thing yeah none of that's out of context none of that that's not
taking something out of context yeah you're oh you an idiot. Oh, you know, you guys really took the Holocaust out of context.
You know, when you really look at the whole scope of the thing.
Yeah, no, you really got to lean into it.
You really made that look bad.
Taken out of context.
And some of which were said without putting much thought into it.
Well, that's not my fault that you fucking spoke without thinking.
I would never want to hurt the elderly or anyone that is in true need
of help to be left to fend for themselves.
I was only making the statement that those
folks that are too lazy to get up and fend for
themselves but are capable should not
be dealt a handout. I apologize
for the wording and some of the phrases that were
used! Exclamation point.
I had already turned in my resignation
and had not signed up to run for mayor again
on the deadline that was February 12th.
I spoke some of this.
He's using these exclamation points.
He demands this kind of exclamation.
So good.
I spoke some of this out of the anger that the city and county was catching for situations which were out of their control.
That sentence is very poorly worded.
Please understand if I had to do it over again,
I would have just kept my words to myself.
And if I did say them, I would have used
better wording. And I love this
been more descriptive.
Motherfucker, a lack
of fucking description was
not the problem. Yeah, that wasn't
the issue. And then
it gets personal. The anger
and harassment you've caused my wife and family is so undeserved.
My wife was laid off of her job based off the association people gave to her
and the business she worked for.
She's a very good person.
That's a terrible sentence.
I mean, I'm a bad writer, but that's a really bad sentence.
Yeah, well, you're not the fucking mayor of colorado junction or fucking whatever yeah i'm the mayor of arkansas kentucky that's
she's a very good person was only defending me but her to have get fired from her job. It sounds like a Google Translate.
Oh, wait.
Maybe I misread it.
No, I didn't misread it.
Do it again.
But her to have to get fired from her job over things I said out of context is so horrible.
Yes.
What?
I admit there are things.
I smell hair.
This next is amazing.
I admit there are things that are said all the time that I don't agree with,
but I would never harass you or your family to the point that they would lose
their livelihood as such as a form of income.
There is, there is the,
it's T-H-E-R-E instead of like
a personalized there too,
which is nice.
See, honestly, honestly, listen to this.
Is an eighth grade education
even a prerequisite to be mayor
of Colorado happy or whatever?
I think you just have to like
score the most at darts.
I don't think you need to.
Do you win the mayordom
in this fucking town
by doing keg stands?
What the fuck
is a traumatic brain injury
an obvious necessary requirement
for this job?
Gotta get that.
Yeah.
I asked that you,
I also love that
she got fired for things
that he said out of context.
No.
No.
What?
No.
Every,
the context just gets worse with every passing sentence.
When you're a shitty person,
sometimes people don't want to be associated with you or your family.
Right.
That happens.
Maybe don't be the worst all the time.
Yeah.
I asked that you each understand.
I never meant to speak for the city of Colorado City
or Mitchell County.
I was speaking as a citizen
as I am not the mayor anymore.
But he was when he wrote this.
At the time, yeah.
But he resigned or whatever.
He apologized.
Because he's fucking a baby.
I apologize for the wording
and ask that you please
not harass myself
or my family anymore.
Threatening our lives
with comments and messages
is a horrible thing
to have to wonder about.
What the fuck?
I hate wondering about threats.
I won't share any of those messages
from those names
as I feel they know who they are
and hope after they see this,
they will retract the hateful things
they have said.
Thank you,
Tim Boyd,
citizen. Well, at Tim Boyd, citizen.
Well, at least he learned his lessons.
I am surprised, Cecil,
with governance like that,
the Texas has found themselves
in this kind of a pickle.
No, I'm not.
I really genuinely feel bad
for everybody down there
because their government is so fucking incompetent.
It's just pathetic.
It's just genuinely pathetic.
Well, Cecil, have you seen the tweets
that were called out from Ted Cruz?
When California had some rolling blackouts
and they had some energy problems, for sure.
And Ted Cruz tweeted out something like,
I see that California has lost even the basic, you know, functioning necessary requirements for a civilization such as electricity.
Yeah. And like people are just tweeting that right back at him. Like, here you go. Yeah. It turns out when you have wildfires a shitty grid system entirely unplugged from the rest of the country and not enough fucking redundancy and an over-reliance on fucking deregulated systems, that fucks up your system.
Well, and then the very fact that they're trying to blame it all on wind power now.
Oh, my God.
The tiniest portion of their actual.
Yeah.
And, you know, like the like the fact is, is that,
is that they're just not ready. And they're just trying to, again, this is, this is something that
all politicians fucking do. They've got to pass the buck on somebody else. Nobody can just walk
up to a microphone and be like, fuck, we fucked up. Let's fix this. There's never a moment in
fucking politics where somebody just, you know, is the better person.
What's so crazy is a storm like this is a once in a generation event, right? So a storm like this has not happened in this way in more than 35 years. And this storm, one of the unique things
about this storm is that it blanketed the entirety of Texas, east to west, north to south. So Texas
was not able to draw power from any of its other grid infrastructure in other parts of Texas, east to west, north to south. So Texas was not able to draw power from any of
its other grid infrastructure in other parts of Texas. So it's not that unusual for Texas to have
a cold snap, but Texas can draw power from other areas of Texas because usually the entire state
isn't affected. And Texas actually has, in many respects, a very progressive grid system. So it relies on coal, it relies on
natural gas, it has nuclear power, and it has wind energy. And that kind of diversification of power
is, generally speaking, a good thing. The problem in Texas is that the entire state of Texas got
hit. The whole fucking state of Texas. So they could have just stood up there and said,
you know what?
Despite all of our best efforts,
despite the diversification of energy sources,
we had failures within our transmission lines.
We did not plan for this.
It's a once in a generation event.
We're working hard on getting systems back online.
Instead, they're like, the wind turbines,
the goddamn liberal wind turbines done froze up.
Yeehaw, Texas.
And there's no need for that.
You could just say like, fuck, we didn't see this coming
partially because we don't believe in climate change.
And that's a problem too, right?
But fuck.
You know, you said it's a once in a generation.
It might not be.
Not anymore.
I mean, like there's a possibility it might not be.
And so, you know, that's the problem is,
is that there's so many people who just can't fucking,
they can't back up anymore.
They have put themselves into a corner
to the point where they've denied climate change so much.
And then they've also tried to pass the buck
onto everybody else as if it's their fault.
It's like, no, it's your fault.
And you need to accept that climate change is a real thing.
Yeah, and they're not going to
until the next storm hits.
You know what I mean?
And then the next fucking storm hits.
It's going to be the next,
the next, the next.
Right, right.
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So we got a little bit of email here.
We got a message from, this is from Christian
and he says that he has a couple of family members
who are involved in sort of Facebook groups and things, vaccine Facebook groups.
And he's also doing some of that stuff.
And he said that there's on Facebook now
because groups are being banned
because of their anti-vax stances.
They are now changing some of their language.
And one of his favorites,
the talk family has renamed to evidence-based discussion
from civil discussion to try to protect the vaccine group from the sensor. So they're trying
to get around those algorithms that we talked so much about. They're trying to get around it.
They're trying to squeak around it. You know what I got to say? At the end of the day,
I think the algorithms are going to win, I think the algorithms are going to
win. I think the algorithms are going to win. Yeah, they're going to win. I mean, we just found
out on the stream that we're not even broadcasting on Facebook in Australia. Right. Yeah. Because of
their media blackout. Yeah, they've got a media blackout. Yeah. So we found out that our Facebook
page isn't even allowed down there right now.
So you have to find us in different places now.
If you're going to watch the stream,
you have to watch it on Twitch, I think, and YouTube.
Those would be the places you have to watch it.
What time of the day do we stream down there, Tom?
It's like 12 hours?
Are they 12 hours away?
So it's like-
17 hours.
They're watching the stream over there
at like two in the afternoon
something like that yeah so okay all right so that's why they're watching that's why we get
australians on because they're two in the afternoon yeah it's good timing for them yeah
no it's perfect two in the afternoon and then the next day because yeah it's on thursday they
live in a time machine yeah it's how that works i think so uh so uh if you are watching the stream down there be
sure to be sure to uh to find it somewhere else on facebook we got a message from paul and paul said
uh in episode 564 cecil remarked that he had become less afraid of death as he's gotten older
anecdotally i found that many religious people get more afraid as they approach death because
the fear of judgment that has always been instilled in them
and how the humans are unworthy, basically.
And he said, my stepmother is a lifelong Catholic
in her mid eighties
and has been like that for a few years.
Wow.
That's scary.
That's gotta be scary.
And that is something else
because you learn so much of your life about hell.
You spend your whole life and how horrible it is
or I'm gonna be in purgatory
for a long time.
That's what Catholics believe.
And so, you know,
at least Catholics have
kind of like a fucking,
a place you can chill for a while
if you were an asshole
instead of just like
infinite punishment
if you were, you know,
an asshole.
You know, the other thing too
is like a lot of these people,
they're not terribly
biblically literate.
So their conception of hell is a cultural conception, you know, which is borrowed from Dante and Hieronymus Bosch and like all these like, which has nothing that none of that has any biblical basis.
That all has a literary and cultural basis.
So they have this idea of hell that if they read their book, it doesn't even match.
You know what I mean? It doesn't even match, but they've conjured up these demons. They've
literally conjured up these actual demons. Right, right. Got a message from Helgi on Patreon,
and they say, I was wondering if there's a way to listen to live streams on a podcast app. If so,
which apps and how? So you can listen to the live streams after they happen on a podcast app. We post all of those
onto our feed and Patreon has a way to put that feed in a podcast player, but I don't know exactly
how to do it. But if you search for podcast feed Patreon, I'm sure there's a way to do it. Also,
if you want to send us an email straight away,
I know Ian can walk you through it.
So send us an email and I will forward it to Ian
and he will walk you through it.
But there is a way to get any audio
that we produce through Patreon
directly to your podcast player.
And every live stream, we take it down
and we upload it to Patreon
so everybody can just listen to it
if they want to do that instead of watching.
We got a fucking awesome image.
I love this image.
This is from Steven, and it's a Star Wars image,
and it's a reference to last week's stream,
so check it out.
It's on this week's show notes, 565.
Joanne sends in a message, and they say,
best place to get glasses is Zenni Optical.
And they talk about how cheap the glasses are.
Tom turned me on to Zenni a while back,
but I haven't been able to use them
because I can't go to a doctor.
I have never been able to find a doctor
that'll allow me for that,
like the sight thing, the eye.
The pupillary distance.
Yeah, yeah.
It's so stupid because the law in Illinois
requires that they give you your prescription,
but your pupillary distance
is not technically part of your prescription,
even though it's required to get a pair of glasses. So, but it's not technically part of
your prescription. So you have to go to someplace that will measure you, your pupillary distance.
And they usually charge you for it before you can buy the goddamn glasses. I have like six
pairs of glasses from Zenni. Like I buy them every year. I buy another pair of glasses from Zenni. Like I buy them every year.
I buy another pair of glasses from Zenni and they're actually terrific.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah, the glasses I have to buy are through the doctor
and I tried to get my thing last year
and they gave me the prescription,
but they didn't have that thing.
And there's lots of ways, I guess, online to find that thing,
but I was never able to find a good method.
Yeah, I tried to do it online and I got it wrong by a lot.
Another image.
This one's from Holly.
And this is also about last week's.
I love this one.
And this image is on the show notes, 565.
Check it out.
So we want to thank, of course, Knowledge Fight.
Great guys.
For joining us tonight.
Great guys.
We want to thank them for coming on.
You can check out their podcast, Knowledge Fight.
And Jordan also has a book and I'm sure you can find it through Knowledge Fight and through their
website. We want to thank them for coming on. It was a lot of fun. And we want to invite everybody
back next week for our live stream. It'll be on Thursday night next week. We had to switch to
Wednesday this week, but next week we'll be back on Thursday. So come check us out on all the places
that you would normally stream us. So you come check us out on all the places that you would normally stream us.
So you would check us out on Facebook, on Twitch, on YouTube, and Twitter.
But not in Australia.
You can't look at us on Facebook in fucking Australia.
All right.
So that's going to wrap it up for this week.
We're going to leave you like we always do with the Skeptic's Creed.
Credulity is not a virtue.
It's fortune cookie cutter mommy issue hypno-Babylon bullshit.
Couched in scientician, double bubble, toil and trouble, pseudo-quasi-alternative,
acupunctuating, pressurized, stereogram, pyramidal, free energy, healing,
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Spiral, brain dead, pan, sales pitch, late night info docutainment.
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Atlantis, dolphins, truthers, birthers, witches, wizards, vaccine nuts, shaman healers, evangelists, conspiracy, doublespeak, stigmata, nonsense.
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Thrust your hands.
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