Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 574: Gullibles Travels

Episode Date: April 26, 2021

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And Cecil, we are getting closer, buddy. Inch by inch. Which is really all I've ever had to offer. So that's pretty much all I've got. We have moved our studio. It's excellent news. It's awesome. I did none of the work,

as you might expect, but it looks great, Cecil. It looks great. Yeah, it turned out good. It turned out good. And we are waiting for hopefully next week for a reintroduction. But, you know, we're counting down the minutes to see when both of us can be in studio together.

Both of us have been vaccinated. So we are both very excited for that to happen. Hey, man, how's, how did Comcast go? Good? You know what? I got to say, here's what I got to say about Comcast. They literally just flipped a switch and they got it right. Really? So absolutely right. What? Absolutely right flipped a switch and they got it right. Really? So, absolutely right. What? Absolutely right. Absolutely right. They got it right. So, Comcast, no issue. No, I actually didn't even put up

notes for this show, Cecil. I figured I would just say, how did Comcast go? Then you would rant for an hour and 15 minutes. Now what do we talk about? So, we're already done. You're going to have to give me a few minutes to read the news. Actually, I don't know what's happening. Yeah, nothing big has happened this last week.

All right. So, like, we got to talk about, obviously, the biggest news. I mean, really, one of the biggest news stories that resolved-ish of the last, what, 14 months, 10 months? I don't even know when the event occurred. It was 10 months. 10 months. June of last year. Yeah, that's right.

So, Derek Chauvin of last year. Yeah, that's right. So Derek Chauvin, we met, what happened this week is we, by the skin of our teeth, passed the bare minimum standard expectation for criminal justice.

Yeah, sure. That's exactly what we did. Yeah. And we breathed a national sigh of fucking relief that we got the easiest criminal justice

question ever right. And it's fair that we breathe that sigh of fucking relief that we got the easiest criminal justice question ever right. And it's fair that we breathe that sigh of relief. At first, I was really kind of like, fuck, man, we are celebrating what is really a minimum standard. And I thought about it, and I was like, fuck, that's a really depressing thing to realize is true. But it is also true that we almost never get this question right. We never get it right anyway. You're right. You're right. Because we don't get it right. Finally passing that fucking test, finally getting the easiest question on the fucking quiz right is actually an achievement. It is actually a step forward. It is actually not just a depressing signal that, my God,

It is actually not just a depressing signal that, my God, we barely slunk over the easiest bar in the world, but it is meaningful. You know, in so many ways in the last couple of years, we've seen this question just played out in the worst possible way with Breonna Taylor, right? She gets murdered in her home and the police, a few of them get fired and things like that, but there's never been any kind of criminal proceedings in that case. Right. Laquan McDonald was a case that initially would have totally been swept under the rug had

that body cam footage not been released or the police camera, I think it was the dash cam footage not been released, or the police camera, I think it was the dash cam footage, not been released. Absolutely. We would have never known. And in this case, too, the original police bulletin that came out, the PR release that came out, said that there was a medical event. Yep. And

literally, it is one of the most, it's one of the most dishonest things that was ever written about this, and it came one of the most, it's one of the most dishonest things that was ever written about this. And it came out the night of, and it framed the conversation until that video comes out. The moment that video comes out,

it changes the whole conversation because the conversation that the police framed was essentially, yeah, there was just a guy with a medical event. He didn't make it, but yeah, it was just a medical event a medical event um he didn't make it but uh yeah it was just a medical event that's all yeah and that's and that's part of the story that i wanted to talk about today is and because it keeps fucking happening it is still happening it is happening this same fucking week these lies this bullshit narrative that the police are trying

to spin i do want to read the actual investigative bullet, and I have it up. Read the whole bullet. Here's what it says. Man dies after medical incident during police interaction. May 25th, 2020. On Monday evening, shortly after 8pm, officers from the Minneapolis Police Department responded to

the 3700 block of Chicago Avenue South on a report of a forgery in progress. Officers were advised that the suspect was sitting on top of a blue car and appeared to be under the influence. Two officers arrived and located the suspect, a male believed to be in his 40s, in his car. He was ordered to step from his car. After he got out, he physically resisted officers. Officers were able to get the suspect in handcuffs and noted he appeared to be suffering medical distress. Officers called for an ambulance. He was transported to Henneman County Medical Center by ambulance where he died a short time

later. At no time were weapons of any type used by anyone involved in this incident. The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension has been called in to investigate this incident at the request of the Minneapolis Police Department. No officers were injured in the incident. Body worn cameras were on and activated during this incident, and then the go number with the case. That is fucking bullshit. One more thing. At the bottom of the page, the press release says, trust, accountability, professional service.

That's what it says across the bottom of that page. Oh my God, you're right, it does. Trust, accountability, professional service. That is a fucking outright lie that they told. This is that bullshit police journalism. Now, I know it's the police that is putting this out, right?

I realize that. Yep. But we need to understand that these people are paid with our tax dollars. This is not an outside force. These are us. This is us.

They are the ones that we pay money to through our tax dollars to help keep our country safe or our city safe or whatever. You know, that's the bullshit line that they tell us, right? They're keeping us safe somehow. These people lied to us. If anybody else, anybody else does that,

we immediately are like, there's got to be something there that is, you know, somebody's got to lose their job or whatever. But in this case, what about the person who put out this press release? You know, shouldn't there be something there that allows us to have some sort of recourse against all the actors

in this? Because it's not just the fucking, it's not just the guy who kneeled on his neck. It's not just the guys who looked the other way. It's not just the guys who held back the crowd while the guy literally killed someone. It's not just those people. It's the whole system, man. It's the whole thing. They're all involved in it. Yeah. I think if, and I don't know this to be sure because I'm not a law talking guy, but I'm fairly certain that if I lie to federal sure, because I'm not a law-talking guy, but I'm fairly certain that if I lie to federal officers, that's a criminal offense. I'm fairly certain that if I obstruct the course of an investigation, that's a criminal offense. I'm fairly certain that obstructing justice

is a criminal offense. I have no idea how you can tell the world, how you can tell the world that the Minneapolis Police Department responded on a report of a forgery. Officers were advised he was sitting on his car. He got out. He resisted. Officers were able to get the suspect in handcuffs and noted he appeared to be suffering medical distress. Yeah. At no point did anyone involved give a shit about the medical distress that he was suffering because they were causing that medical distress while they were killing him yep absolutely they didn't note his medical distress as if it was some third party happening that they were oh you know we got him in the car and he looks like he's

getting sick let's call the game they have fucking nine minutes and 29 seconds pressed on him until they crushed him asphyxiated him by pressure yes Yes. That's not, they didn't write that down. This keeps fucking happening. They shot that fucking seventh grader just this last week, right? And what did they put in the fucking police report? Now I have no idea because I actually did not watch that footage. So I have no idea whether that's a good shoot or a bad shooting or justified or unjust. I have no fucking idea. And I'm not even commenting on it except to note that they fucking lied about it because they fucking instinctively lie about it.

The reports that were filed about that said that he had a gun in his hand when they shot him. He didn't have a gun in his hand. Everything I read says he threw the gun over a fence or past the fence or whatever, then turned around with his hands up and then they fucking shot him. But they don't write that shit down. They write down a different story. The Laquan McDonald thing,

they write down a different story. Every chance that they get, they're fucking lying to you. They are lying. There's no benefit of the doubt that the police should be given, none, because every single time they're lying. And the only thing that's catching them, the only thing is having all this shit on video. Every single, we talked about this back when this shit happened in May of last year. Every fucking time you see the police, for any reason, cameras out.

I don't care if they're getting coffee. I don't give a fuck if they're in line at Chipotle. They, cops should get no benefit of the doubt at any time. They should be on camera no matter what the fuck they're doing. It's not enough to have them wear their own body cams. Those fuckers turn it off.

They obscure it with their own bodies. They have oopsie fucking moments. Body cameras aren't enough. Citizens need to film the cops at every fucking moment from every fucking angle because they just keep lying to you. They will put out press releases just keep lying to you. They will put out

press releases that officially lie to you. If you had in your possession film that could exonerate someone else or could make you guilty and you destroyed it, you would be charged with destruction of evidence. Right. But every time they turn off their body camera, every time they do anything like that, there's no penalties. There needs to be penalties if you shut your body camera off. There needs to be something that happens to you. If that's like you lose your job, then you lose your job. And if you don't want to have a job where you're going to work and you get filmed, then don't become a police officer, right? Yeah, fine. Just don't do it. Same thing when I say the same thing when they don't want to give,

when the pharmacist doesn't want to give away birth, the day after pill, and they're upset and they have this crisis of conscience or whatever. I don't give a fuck. Don't do it for a living. There's a lot of other jobs in the world. Go do something else.

But we have this expectation that police officers are above the law. There's this other idea too. I saw several Facebook posts and things like that that came out afterwards from police officers that sort of showed that they were like, just go in and punch the clock. Don't protect anybody. Don't do that. And I'm thinking, you know, if it's too much to ask that you don't kill us, then I hope

you don't do that job anymore. I hope that you quit that job. I hope you do a shitty job at that job because currently your current level of aggression toward the normal person is at a level that shouldn't be there. It just shouldn't be there. They literally killed this guy and it's not just one person, man. It's him on top, all the people playing crowd control. After the fucking ambulance gets there for a full minute, he's still on his fucking neck, man. He's still on his neck for a minute afterwards. How do you see that footage? How do you watch that footage? How do you use your fucking brain and your eyes to watch that footage and think, that's justified. That's

justified. Are you fucking kidding me? Well, he's keeping us safer. He's keeping us safer from what? From maybe a fucking forged $20 bill? Like, these cops are saying like, oh, we're not going to do it. Fuck your narrative that you're the fucking thin blue line that stands between fucking society and anarchy, right? That's nonsense. That's fucking nonsense. Is it sometimes the case? Yeah, man. It's sometimes the case that the police really do perform a vital protective function in a civilized society. That is absolutely the case. But is it also the case that the police more often than not use violence for no other reason than to gain compliance when the stakes are $20? Yeah. When the stakes are fucking nothing. I watched a video yesterday, maybe the day before, where some guy is in the hospital with his 19-month-old son. And the police came

and they wanted to investigate whether or not, and you don't find this out until you read it, where they wanted to investigate whether or not that kid was there because of child abuse. So they walk in and they just demand that this guy surrender his wife's phone. They just walk in, they don't say fucking shit. And they're just like, give us the phone. We want your wife's phone. Give us her phone. And this guy's like, what are you talking about? Come outside. Give us the phone. Give us the phone now. Then they tase the guy in the hospital. He's standing in the hospital. Like they don't explain, we need your phone so we can look for it to see if there's video evidence for why the kid might be here because the kid got bumped by a car.

So they don't explain shit, but they're furious that he doesn't immediately comply. Why do they fucking, other than racism, why do they fucking tase that guy or pepper spray that guy the other day? Because he can get out of the car in time, right? Yeah. If you don't fucking jump the fucking hoops, if you don't stand on leg and play a fucking Simon Says game and fucking say, yes, sir, no, sir, while you fucking do it, and can I have another one? If you don't do all that shit, they have carte blanche to beat the ever-loving shit out of you. And the use of force expert that tried to get Derek Chauvin off on this basically said

that. That piece of shit use of force expert that the defense called, he basically said like, yeah, that force was justified. In fact, more force would have been justified. More force. Why? He was unresponsive. How much more can you stop resisting than to be literally unconscious at some point that man was dead and force was still being applied. You cannot possibly say, well, he was still resisting. He wasn't alive. The moment you question the authority

of a police officer, ask them why they're making a decision, assert your actual rights. They just beat the fuck out of you, man. They beat the shit out of you. And they'll do it to protesters. They'll do it to journalists. Your civil rights are absolutely being crushed.

Yeah. Crushed by these people. Absolutely. I don't understand why the fucking gun nuts will march in the street and fucking take to the fucking Capitol and scream and yell because somebody wants to limit

the amount of fucking bullets they can shoot at any one given time without the inconvenience of changing out their magazine. But you're not allowed like your First Amendment right to gather, to protest, to speak. You're right against unreasonable search and seizure. We have all these other rights and we don't protect them the same way. Your rights to have journalists be protected, your right to a free press all of that all of that the cops specifically they are fucking your rights every day every day and we're standing up like well i want to make sure my flamethrower has a silencer on it yeah get the fuck out of here the penalty for all of this

is a beating possible brain damage you know look at the guy who got shoved backwards the guy who just yeah he's just standing there trying to hand a fucking helmet back he gets fucking shoved on his back and his fucking head bounces off the pavement and he starts bleeding out his goddamn ear yep all he did was just walk up to the police officers that fucking doddering old man he's like a little old man. He's literally zero threat, man. He's a skinny septuagenarian. What the fuck could he possibly do to you? He's not Jack LaLanne.

He's a fucking, he's like a tiny little old guy. And they just push him down like he's nothing. Because it's easy to push down people that are in their 70s, right? It's not a hard thing to do. And he literally falls right backwards and he bounces his head off the ground and he starts bleeding profusely from his ear because they don't care. And all he did was show them that he had rights.

You know, it's not even that they're showing the police officer or trying to like force the police officer into some, you know, you're trying to, you're trying to push me. You're trying to push me. No, I'm just trying to exert my own rights. That's all I'm trying to do. I'm not even trying to like, like cause you to have a bad day or, you know, assert my authority against you. I'm just saying I have rights. That's literally all I'm saying. And that's too much. That is too much of an attack on the police officer that they have to exert force on you. And that's in so many people's eyes in this country. It's not just a few people in so many people's eyes. That is perfectly valid. They're allowed to beat

the shit out of you. If you want to, you should have listened. You should have listened. You should have listened. You know, sometimes the police are wrong. They're wrong often. They don't know the law. They don't understand what they're doing. They're choosing that they're following the wrong person. They're racially profiling. They're doing things incorrectly and you have no recourse

and no way to stop it in the moment. What those people will say is do it in court. It's like, well, fucking some of those people don't have fucking, they don't have funds to go to court. They don't want to go to court. I shouldn't have to go to fucking court to plead their case. Yeah. Well, the thing is, like, getting arrested could cost you so much, even if you win.

So much. You know, we've talked about this before. And I think about it in terms of, I mean, I don't like to do this very often, but I think about it in terms of my own life. And I think, like, man, if I got arrested tomorrow and I got thrown in jail and I, for whatever reason, wasn't able to get bail, like that, I could lose my job. Yeah. My family could go hungry. You know, like they could, my family could be thrown out onto the street. Absolutely.

You know, getting arrested is, and then so like, and we don't have a right to a fucking speedy trial. Don't fucking pretend that you do. Hell no. People languish for sometimes years before they actually get to trial. You don't have a right. Half the fucking rights that we're supposed to have, we don't seem to be able to exercise. The cops are able to use violence anytime.

I mean, if you stop and think about the justifications for violence, right? It's the cops can use violence to gain compliance for any request, even if that request isn't related to the commission of a crime. And we've seen it before where the original crime is never charged. The police show up, the original supposed crime that they're investigating is never charged, but they beat the shit out of you. They stick a dog on you. They call their buddies to whack you with sticks.

They cause serious and lasting damage and trauma to people. And the original reason that they were there is fucking thrown out. So they can do it because they want to gain your compliance to any request, no matter how small or unreasonable, and no matter whether or not it violates your rights. The police can beat the shit out of you or kill you if they happen to be afraid today. Fear. A cop's fucking fear is enough. I feared for my life. I was afraid for my life.

It's enough to kill somebody. I fucking beat that guy. I escalated to violence. It's enough to kill somebody. I shot somebody. Easily. Why the fuck do we have such fearful fucking, I thought these were big fucking men. I thought these were big warriors, man.

Isn't that the fucking what they're touting? I will be honest. I think that sometimes we'd be better off with a vigilante squad. At least in that case, there'd be some way in which they'd be like trying to go after people that might have committed a crime, you know, in a certain way, you're like, oh, that person might've committed a crime. And a lot of these times it's just racial profiling. It's just them trying to find a crime right so they they pull over a shitty looking car and then they they question the guy and get him to trip up and they're like oh they smell weed you

need to get out of the car so they could fucking dig around and try to find something in the car to bust you one at least with like a vigilante squad there was a crime that happened and then they're going after the crime i mean like air freshener hanging from your rear view. No real people. Ask anybody on the street if you think you should be hassled for a fucking air freshener. Of course. Get the fuck out of here. Nobody believes that. But the way that we exercise the pursuit of supposed justice in this country has nothing to do with what the people are actually interested in being protected from. It has no relationship at all. You know what we protect, Cecil? We protect money. We protect money and

we protect power and we protect privilege. And we will protect money, power, and privilege at the expense of any citizen. And nothing says that more than the laws that are being proposed to strip away your rights to protest and the law that was passed in Florida and signed into law by Governor DeSantis just this last week. And I can't believe this isn't a bigger story than it is. So this story is, you can find it anywhere and there's many different analyses of it. This one, this particular one is from the Orlando Sentinel. Florida anti-riot law is unconstitutional, federal lawsuit contends. And I swear, I hope this, if this lawsuit does not overturn this law, we are fucked because there are

similar laws, just like the voting restriction laws, which are popping up state by state by state. There are similar laws to this egregious trampling of your civil rights that are popping up, not just in Florida, but in Texas and in Iowa and other places that people don't actually want to live if they had an option to leave. So the law basically allows people, if they're driving a car and there's protesters, drive right through the fucking protesters now. Just fucking Mad Max. What is that? Death Race 2000? Is that what it is? Mad Max. What is that? Death Race 2000? Is that what it is? That's what you can do.

The law protects property over human lives. It allows for inaccurate and vague definitions of what a protest is versus what a riot is, which basically gives the police and anybody supposedly protecting their property broad discretion to use violence and deadly force to make arrests. It also has extensive penalties for people when they deem it a riot. They have 15 years in jail you can get if they've deemed it a riot and you are out there. And whether or not you're even individually, if you're just, if you're at a protest and something kicks off and you get swooped up in that, whether or not you were a part of any violence that occurred, this law does not seem to make meaningful

distinctions in terms of how that would be applied to somebody who just happened to be somewhere in a group when something happened. It's a horrific trampling. I mean, it's almost, it's so egregious. It's almost like you want to look at your rights and be like, which one doesn't this violate? Like I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure out what this does not suppress. It's crazy. You know, when we talk about the presidency, we talk about the presidency a lot in this,

and this show, we talked about it for the last several years. You know, you talk about the presidency, we talk about the presidency a lot. In this show, we talked about it for the last several years. You know, you talk about the senators, talk about that. But man, state governments, you just need to get some of these turned over because my God, there's so much power in these state governments. Look at the anti-voting laws that are passing. Look at these laws that are passing. These are nightmare laws. These are nightmare laws that are passing. Look at these laws that are passing. These are nightmare laws.

These are nightmare laws for these states. These are going to oppress black and brown people across the entire United States in every single red state. You know, you're going to have some protections in places like New York, places like Chicago, places like California. You won't have those things. But man, is there just going to be a mass exodus to the places where they treat people like human beings? Yeah, well, and make no mistake, that's the intent of these laws. These laws are not, these laws, do you think these laws are going to be fairly applied when white people gather to protest?

Oh, of course not. Look at the fucking January 6th riots. Yeah. White people gathered to protest. They fucking stormed the Capitol and the police response and the police preparedness was vastly, vastly different than extremely peaceful BLM and George Floyd related protests. So these are not going to be fairly applied. We know they're not. We know the intention of these laws is to stop people from exercising their rights because let's face it, white power structure is afraid right now. They see the writing on the wall. I really do believe that to a large degree, the demographic of power and control that the white Republican party really represents, they see that they are losing. And all of this is a desperate attempt. It's just

like a desperate attempt to hold on to power at any cost. And you know that that's true because the same people who should be standing up and saying, wait a minute, wait a minute, constitution and so forth, my rights and so on, they. My rights and so on. They're all of a sudden on the side of oppression. They're all of a sudden on the side of authoritarianism. They're all of a sudden on the side of violent

governmental authoritarianism and fascism. They're only on that. They weren't on that side when it was that fucking Bundy Yahoo in Oregon. You know what I mean? They weren't on that side.

There's a whole bunch of fucking right-wingers who, you know, like look at shit like Ruby Ridge and like, oh, the government has no right to,

you know, do anything or get anywhere near my land or my property or, you know, leave me alone under any, but now,

no, now that, now that, you know, you guys might not be in fucking power forever. Uh-uh. No, no, no. I'll hand power over to the cops, man. I'll hand power over to the cops, man.

I'll hand power over to any other white person who's got a gun. That's what this shit is. Well, and man, we saw it here with the George Floyd protests in Chicago. At least I did. When I watched those live streams, I watched all those police kick that shit off,

drive their car through the protesters to make them attack the car so that they can then send a bunch of people out to really just rough them up. And then they kicked them. They kept on kicking it off and they do that so that they can discredit the protest as a protest that was essentially just violent. Right. So they bring the violence, make the other people retaliate against them because they don't want to. Nobody wants to get punched in the fucking face. And so there's a retaliation against it. And then it's like, well, you were the violent one. But if you watch the tape, you can watch them slowly making it so that they're, they're just

amplifying the chance that there's violence until they inflict violence on someone else. And then they just respond in with a law like this, that's 15 years in jail, man. 15 years in jail. If a cop drives his car up and then, you know, he bounces into you and you fucking hit the car, you could go to jail for 15 years. 15 fucking years. There's a law, and I don't remember which state is proposing it or where it's at right now. So forgive me for the vagueness. But there is a law that I was reading about yesterday relative to this that would make it illegal to basically mouth off to the cops. If you say shit to the cops and it is would reasonably provoke outrage.

We are allowed to mouth off to people. I thought we had a right to free speech. All these fucking anti-mask idiots. Isn't that what they're screaming? Yep. Isn't that what these guys screaming? Yep. Yep. Isn't that what these guys are screaming? You're silencing us. The fucking, and I'm not on their side, but the fucking goofballs that have the fucking censored masks and all that stuff and are walking around and saying stupid shit all the time. Like, isn't that what they're saying

is that they should have a right to say whatever they want, wherever they want, no matter how shitty and mean spirited and racist. But I'll tell you what, not if you're a brown person, not if you're talking to a cop, because what are the cops there to do? The cops aren't there to protect and serve us. The cops are there to enshrine a specific power structure,

a specific moneyed racial power structure. And anybody who says that the cops are there to do anything different isn't fucking paying attention. What happened to his hands? What's that? His hands. Why are they missing? Well, I kind of cooked them up and ate them. Carl. Well, I was hungry. And well, you know, when you crave hands. Why on earth would you do that? I was hungry for hands. Give me a break. Carl. My stomach was making the rumblies that only hands would satisfy. So this story comes from boingboing.net. It's also everywhere else, but this is the first place I found it. I sent this to you Cecil during the week with just a text of utter

despair. FedEx mass shooter was brony who hoped to see Applejack in the afterlife. I'm reading this whole thing. Yeah, just go for it. Brandon Scott Hole, 19, entered a FedEx depot in Indianapolis at 11 p.m. last Thursday and shot dead eight people before taking his own life. 40 minutes earlier, he had posted final words. Here are his final words.

I hope that I can be with Applejack in the afterlife. My life has no meaning without her. Applejack is the main character in the children's cartoon, My Little Pony Friendship is Magic, first broadcast in 2010. Mr. Hole had two Facebook accounts dedicated to the show that were removed by the social media giant following the shooting after requests from law enforcement, according to an internal memo acquired by the Wall Street Journal. The Wall Street Journal, we are living in a world now where the Wall Street Journal has to report on shootings

and Applejack and My Little Pony all in the same story. Who fucking went to journalism school and ever thought they would write that story? Yeah, who thought they would write that sentence, put that sentence down? I mean, unbelievable. You know, I think I know why he went to FedEx though.

Because he couldn't go to My Little Pony Express. Oh! While law enforcement hoped that Mr. Hole's online activity would help shed light on his motive for the attack, the Facebook memo said the gunman's accounts were mostly focused on the cartoon show. Though a charming cartoon marketed at girls and young women, the rebooted My Little Pony series had a weird penumbral irony

to its furry antics, which led to much broader success. So-called bronies were young men who took an interest in the show and they even had their own convention to celebrate it. And I was like, fine. Not my jam, but everything can be someone's jam. I was fine. Fine. Geekdom is geekdom, right? Geekdom is very specific. It's hyper specific. It's hyper niche. It's got all kinds. There's all different kinds of dorkdom out there.

And this is just one of those places. I do not care. I mean, like, until this line in the article. But its appropriation by the farthest right was also a growing problem. Just a year ago and i read this article the atlantic's caitlin tiffany wrote that the show's fans were ready to admit they had

a nazi problem they have a message board uh that's like an image board where people submit these my little pony images right and so they submit them and then there's just like a whole section of it that is just like these horrible racist things, right? Where these people submit racist My Little Pony stuff to this board. And, you know, so there's part of me that understands that art sometimes needs to be transgressive, right? There's part of me that understands that concept, right? But that's also making an excuse for a lot of people to infiltrate this group and warp people's minds. Right. You know, these people have, there's so many different people that have, that go to this site, that go to this site. these My Little Pony images that they're creating, and they're indoctrinated into a way of thought through these images by these far-right actors that go there specifically to,

because it's an inclusive community, and inclusive communities just welcome people, and they sometimes welcome the worst people, and those people sometimes use that connection of that community to alter other people's ideas. And that happens all the fucking time. And they just know that if they get into a super niche community, the super niche community is going to be inclusive and they're going to have access to those people because they have a frame of reference to talk to them about.

Yes. A hundred percent, man. There is a naivete or a lie, and I don't know which it is, but it pisses me off every time I see it, which pretends a lack of knowledge about the rabbit hole effect that is the fucking internet. The rabbit hole effect where people go down into one of these super niche communities and they move further and further and further along. And as they move further along, there's a radicalizing effect to the echo chamber and the sort of inclusivity and the in-jokes. And then things move further and further left

or further and further right, whatever it is. It's typically more right than it is left. That is a true thing. We watched ISIS specifically use that rabbit hole effect to recruit terrorists across the world to great effect. People packed up their shit and they moved to fucking Syria to fight with ISIS because it's an effective way to recruit people. It is an effective way to recruit for the far right. It is dishonest or naive, and I don't know if it's one or the other or both, to pretend that it's not really effective and very, very real. There are places where everybody can agree to have these informed adult conversations and play, and that's fine. But there is also the truth that these

spaces radicalize people who didn't intend to go down that road, who don't understand the irony of it, who don't see it as transgressive and aren't looking at it with detached ironic distance. They start to believe the messaging on its face. And then that messaging amplifies. And these people become radicalized. And that messaging expands in ways that quickly grow out of control. We have to contend with that shit. Because we have a guy who just shot up the fucking FedEx place. And his last words were about hoping to see an imaginary character

from a fucking children's program called friendship is magic yep what is even happening anymore how does my little pony have a Nazi problem I don't know man friendship is magic it's literally about inclusion I I cannot fathom how it happens. But at the same time, I think some people use that transgressive art idea as a way, as a shield to hide their shitty ideology. So they'll use it as a shield to be like, what? I'm just making an ironic image of, you know, it's just funny when there's a, you know, like a My Little Pony who's also Hitler. Like that's funny, right?

You know? And so they'll do these things to try to hide it, but they're really just trying to, you know, they are racist. They're shitty racists. And that happens way too often. And not weeding those people out. The problem with this board in particular

is that even when it's brought to the attention and even when that board stands up and says, we stand with George Floyd and we stand with the protesters of George Floyd, they still didn't take down the racism posts. They still exist. So you just, you have a guy who's on the end saying all the things that everybody wants to hear. but at the same time, they're literally still reproducing and keeping up all of this really awful shit.

Yeah, and that's why I say I don't know if it's dishonest or if it's naive, but I strongly fucking suspect it's dishonest more than it is anything else. It's dishonest. I was kind of giving it a little bit of, I don't know that everybody on it is dishonest. But what I do think is that, yeah, fucking most of you guys are. Most of it is. Most of it is fucking bullshit. Most of it is intentional. Most of it is evil, mean-spirited shit meant to radicalize people into a worldview.

Also, take it down and prove me wrong. Right. Right. That's how you make me wrong. Because I'll say you're dishonest. You take it down. Then you prove me wrong. Yeah.

And that those same dishonest assholes will then hide behind, well, free speech, you know, I should. And that whole fucking free speech, fucking nonsense argument. Again, you have to contend with the responsibility that speech creates. Yes.

If we, just because you can do something doesn't make it the right thing to do, right? It just doesn't. That's basic shit. You could teach that to a fucking sixth grader. That's easy. That's the easiest thing. And somehow, Cecil, we are still contending with that. We're still doing it. We are pretending that there is no responsibility that is created by our actions, by our speech, by the images. The proliferation of this kind of material begets more of this kind of material. It creates communities where people gather together and you see the same shit. And, you know, people aren't that

fucking complicated and we're real fucking easy to sway. Look at, I mean, look at advertising, right? Advertising knows that it doesn't need you to think about its message. It just needs to show it to you enough that you just become used to it. And that's now, you know what? Get me a Coke. What do you really mean? A cola. If you say something enough, it just becomes embedded. It becomes part of your, we're simple. Repetition makes us believe things. Going into these spaces and seeing the same shit over and over and over again, even if on the surface you say you don't believe it, fuck no, that's not true. You're not that complicated. We are relatively easily manipulated.

Our cognitive biases are relatively easily manipulated. Yeah. And if you want to be easily manipulated, you can go to adamandeve.com, type in Gloria Checkout, and you can get 50% off almost any item,

free shipping, Gloria Checkout, adamandeve.com, easily manipulated. I feel like, too, when I saw this, it feel like too, when I, when I saw this, it reminded me of,

you know, cause like we said, niche stuff. I belong to a medieval recreation group. And the key with all of this is you never give

the racists an inch. Never give them a chance. Never even, never even give the people who, like you said, are just ignorant or are just, you know, they're just genuinely clueless and they just think, well, I thought it would be

okay. Never give those people an inch. A couple of years ago, there was a couple that took photos. There's like, there's like Kings and queens all over the country right these little like what they call kingdoms which are like little areas in the country of you know sort of groups of states and there was a

a king and a queen that had their photos taken and they had swastikas on their stuff and people immediately like what the fuck and they came out with

it's an ancient symbol are the people that we are recreating would have worn these things. And so it's an important part of the heritage that is part of this group that I would belong to as a Saxon or whatever they were saying. I don't even know what they're saying because it's bullshit. Because it's bullshit. Because it has modern connotations. And we live in a world where everybody knows that's fucking wrong and you can't wear it and they immediately they stepped down

they stepped down as king and queen they fucking stepped down because there was so much pressure because nobody wanted to give him an inch now don't get me wrong there were plenty of fucking slobs in the group i belong to that were all like oh they didn't mean anything by it it doesn't matter no fuck you fuck you twice you don't get to that. You don't get to walk out with a fucking Hitler mustache and be like, I'm going to hold my hand up like this because that's what they would have done back in the day. Go fuck yourself. You don't get to play here. And you cannot give these people a fucking inch. If you give them an inch, they will take everything from you. They will fucking plant themselves in the middle of your organization. And guess what you are now? A Nazi organization.

So you cannot give them a second. You cannot give them an inch. You have to immediately address it and say, no, never, ever, ever do that. And that's the problem is they gave these guys an inch. They gave these guys drawing these fucking funny, ah, ha, ha. And it's not even funny, right? To have a racist cartoon. It's not funny, but like some people mistake that as humor. And so people put that in there and they're like, ah, it's funny, right?

Ha, ha, ha. And they gave them an inch and they fucking just, they just fucking nested there. And now they're in it. And now you're part of an organization that is racist. And there's no way to separate yourself from that

unless you call all the racists from your organization. Man, you're absolutely right. And if you're not careful, you will be part of my little pony. Friendship is magic. The Nazis, the Nazis. Yeah. Yeah. And this guy, this guy's a murderer. He's a murderer. He's a murderer for a cartoon show. Yeah, there's a moment where, Cecil, and I'm not even playing, there is a moment at this point in our history where you open up the news and it makes so fucking little sense. Yeah. It makes, and I know I texted it to you, but I meant it.

It's like, I am kind of like willing to be, I'm willing to watch, I'm more willing to watch society crumble because mean people with bad ideas, one. But what we're watching is stupid people with fantastical lies and delusions. Yeah. That's what's causing the downfall. It's just dumb. What the fuck? People easily, easily swayed people. the downfall. It's just dumb people easily swayed people. We're getting crushed by absurdity.

We're being murdered by silliness. Yeah. It's like I can't even imagine a world we can't parody this anymore. We can't parody this because there's a very serious article, Cecil, about a mass murderer who wants

to see an imaginary friendship pony when he dies. It's Gullible's Travels. It is Gullible's Travels. Gullible's Travels. Wait, what's that now? Jay, do you fuck the pillow? Yeah, my same question.

Oh yeah, guys. I fuck my pillow. I'm sorry. My tone was off. Yes, I 100% fucked my pillow. This story, I grabbed this one from AV Club because it's so bitchy. You gotta read it, Tom. It's so good. It's so good. The live stream launch of the MyPillow

Guys, and I love that he doesn't get a name. He's just the MyPillow Guy. MyPillow Guy. Mike something. Liddell? Is that his name? Liddell, yeah. Mike Liddell, yeah. The live stream launch of the MyPillow guys free speech social media site is a glorious disaster. Everyone. We're on day two of Mike Lindell's live stream launch of Frank, the MAGA cultist MyPillow

CEO's new free speech social media platform. I had first thought I I thought at first, because I missed his name when I was just sort of scanning this article. I thought that guy's name was Frank and he called the whole social media after his name.

I was like, that is so amazing. That's just so like Trump to do where he talks about Trump media. This guy's like, I'm going to call it Frank. It's Frank media. Frank media.

Everything I ever make or invent, I'm just going to call Tom. I'm not even going to number it. It's not even. Frank Media. Everything I ever make or invent, I'm just going to call Tom. Tom Media. I'm not even going to number it. It's not even going to be like, there's got to be like the fucking George Foreman where I have like eight kids named George. Right.

We feel compelled to use so many quotations because there are many addendums to that statement. Launch is being generous, given the technical difficulties made it initially impossible for visitors to sign up for the service. Mike blamed this on, Blake blames this on Antifa hackers

for what it's worth, which is nothing. Free speech needs an asterisk too because Lindell at one point alleged you don't get to use the four swear words. And when he said that, I was like, which four is he going to pick? Four. The C word, the N word, the F word.

But my favorite is that you can't take the Lord's name in vain. No Lord's name in vain. So you can't say, oh, Christ. Eat a bag of dicks, asshole. But you can say, eat a bag of dicks, asshole. Because, you know, we wouldn't want to have a crude place to go. He's such a cunt, that guy. Oh, what a twat.

You can say things like, you know, I'm going to abuse you and cum in your ass. That's fine, right? But you can't say, Jesus Christ, am I going to abuse you and cum in your ass? Because that would be crude, Cecil. You can't even say, Tom, you can't even say, Jesus Christ, this jalapeno

is hot. You can't even say that. Like, sure, you know, the coming in the ass, that's all different. That's all gravy, literally. Yeah. I love this thing so much, and I love my favorite part of this. Keep on going, because there's so much awesome in this story.

So there's that. Social media also needs clarification because, well, see launch. And finally, platform is a bit inaccurate since it's hard to describe a flaming, cap-sized ocean barge of toupee adhesive and crushed by Vance

as anything close to solid footing. That's so amazing. Last night, Jimmy Kimmel gave a solid summary for Day One. It's just like, that's Shakespeare. That's so amazing. Last night, Jimmy Kimmel gave a solid summary for day one. It's just like, that's Shakespeare. That's so amazing. It's so, it's beautiful. It is. It's just, oh, amazing.

So good. I love this so much. Last night, Jimmy Kimmel gave a solid summary for day one of Frankathon, Lindell's coinage, not ours. He called it Frankathon. Unironically. You know what he should have had? To have... Okay.

In order to do the inaugural opening of Frankathon, they should have had a hot dog eating contest. Oh! Right? You're stuffing Franks in your mouth. There's Franks on the TV. There's Franks in your mouth. They should have had that gift for that girl,

just having hot dogs thrown at her face. Yeah, hot dogs thrown at her face. Just Franks. Just Frank. Franks and Franks and Franks in your mouth. They should have had that gift for that girl, just having hot dogs thrown at her face. Yeah, hot dogs thrown at her face. Just Franks, just Frank. Franks and Franks and Franks. And then somebody finally throws beans on her. Including a rundown of the star-studded guest appearances. Here's a fucking horror show. This list, by the way, is what is your nightmare dinner party?

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Mike Flynn, Ben Carson, Scott Baio, who I didn't know was horrible. I never thought about him. Steve Bannon and Ted Nugent. Ted Nugent, by the way, has the Rona. Yeah, had the Rona. Yeah.

And admitted it kicked his ass, too. He even admitted to everybody that he was like, I fucking, that really wrecked me. I was so bad. It was super bad. But then he still found time while he was live streaming and very sick to attack China. So that was very nice of him.

He said, I got you, Ted Nugent. I got you, Mike. Happy springtime to you. Thank you for being on the front lines for freedom. We salute you, Nugent said at one point, implying the front lines for freedom is located in the basement of Lindell's Minnesota undisclosed location, McMansion. At some point during the live stream, Lindell seems to genuinely believe the Frank staff got Donald Trump on the phone. It was not, in fact, Donald Trump. That, did you happen to watch that clip, Cecil?

No. Donald Trump. Did you happen to watch that clip, Cecil? No. Where he thinks some caller calls in and does a Donald Trump impression to get on his live stream while he's doing his launch and then just starts cursing at him until they turn it off. What a fucking disaster that guy is.

Oh my God. He's just a dude who should have just shut up and sold fucking pillows. Of all the things in the world, sometimes you just need to shut just shut up and sold fucking pillows. Of all the things in the world. Sometimes you just need to shut the fuck up and sell your pillow. Dude, I look at that guy and I'm like, how are you rich? How? He just fucking.

How are you not dead somewhere in a ditch? What the fuck? How do you wake up and remember to breathe both in and out? He seems so genuinely stupid he has to hire someone from overseas to stand on his chest to lie off and in and out and out so he fucking his body does it unbelievable guy is so fucking stupid and then he just keeps on doubling down on the stupid over and over and over and you just at a certain point, there's nobody around him that just grabs him by his fucking sleeve

and says, come on, man. No, that's enough. He's out there making fucking documentaries with lies in them that's going to get him sued for everything he owns. He's out there making a fucking free speech network that literally can't even support its own weight that you can't even sign up for. You literally can't even sign up for. You literally can't

even sign up for it. It's just like all YouTube. It's just a website that plays a video. It's not a social media at all. There's nothing social about going to a website and watching it play a video. That's literally fucking anybody's website that can play a video. Ha ha people, stupid poor people. I have more money than you.

Stupid poor people, stupid poor people. You can't even afford food. This story is from Mike.com. Tucker Carlson was real worried about his college yearbook. Now we know why. So, I guess the Washington Post has been reaching out to college classmates trying to get a copy of his yearbook.

Tucker Carlson gets wind of this and tries to get in front of it by basically being like, oh, now they're going to drag up any old thing you did wrong when you were a teenager. And you know, Cecil, I am like, yeah, you know what?

I did some stupid shit when I was a teenager. I did. I did some stupid shit and shit I wasn't proud of. And I would not want everything that I've ever done as a teenage person to be broadcast as a referendum on who I am as a 43-year-old man. Absolutely. But you know what I wasn't?

I was never a member of the Dan White Society and the Jesse Helms Foundation and then literally a racist propaganda right-wing pundit. Right. You know, like, it's one thing if you did shitty stuff when you were a teenager and you were not smart enough to hide it and couch it in weasel language, and then the only thing that changed about your viewpoints was your ability

to couch it a little bit to the dumb with dog whistles and weasel language. He hasn't changed any of his viewpoints. When I made mistakes when I was 19, I look back and I'm like, I'm ashamed of who I was. I should not have started that fight. I should not have been mean to that person. I was an unkind person. I changed. I got better. I owe some people an apology. This is different than that because he's still a racist he started off in racist organizations and now he's like king fucking mouthpiece of the fucking racists yeah i mean if you if you didn't change if you're still this if you were a fucking

douchebag at 19 and you're still a douchebag then then all of that stuff is still fucking, it's fair game, man. It's all fair game. And you know, the Dan White Society, for those people who don't know, Dan White, I didn't know this either, Dan White is the guy who killed, who murdered Harvey Milk.

And here's Tucker Carlson. First off, look at this picture of Tucker Carlson. You know he was going to be a douchebag when he grew up. You look at this photo and you immediately see it and it's like a fucking neon light. It's just blinking. Blah, blah, blah. He's a fucking douchebag and you knew it. You fucking knew it.

You knew it from the jump and this guy types in so everybody knows. Everybody in your fucking entire class Everybody who buys this yearbook Everybody who looks at this yearbook First off, I don't know that I even had a college College yearbook, it doesn't make sense

College yearbook, yeah, I don't remember there being a college yearbook I didn't go to some I don't know where he went So maybe there's like a I know that some colleges are more, you know, huggy and, you know, you stay on campus and so everybody gets to know each other. Both of us were commuter students. So look at it and say, well, I don't know. I was working a job at the time. I wasn't, I wasn't going to, there was literally no time for me to take a photo for

your yearbook. I wasn't going to, man, you could tell he was an asshole he's telling everybody in his whole class that he likes murderers like i mean seriously wait if you saw somebody do this now on facebook you might get flagged for that you might they might take your account down for some shit like that you know the the idea that you know nowadays if you were to if you were to say something about some murderer on your facebook page and you were a high schooler, the cops may come visit you, want to look around your house, make sure you're not packing any guns or some things like that.

If you're idolizing a murderer like that, you could be a mass shooter. And a murderer who is obviously motivated by hatred, by anti-LGBTQ hatred. Absolutely. Right? And the same thing is true of the Jesse Helms fucking society

or whatever. Jesse Helms was the most racist, homophobic member of Congress in modern history. Yeah. Also, why did you go to a college that has these societies? What is even happening? Where did you go to school? Is that real or is he just saying it

as one of those it's like it's trying to be like edgy oh he's trying to be edgy so he was trolling before trolling was a thing he's trolling with his high school yearbook yeah i mean yes but let me tell you he's trolling in all the years he's not every single year of his life, his face has grown more punchable. But that's to say that's to say though, his yearbook 100% punchable face. 100% and then it somehow got to be more than 100%

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We got an image. This image is an image of Mark Zuckerberg as Moses. So it's about Facebook and I'm sure you'll like it. So we're going to put it on the sweet show notes. Joe sent it in. Thank you, Joe, for the image. We got a tweet.

This one was from Christian and the tweet says, I have way too much imposter syndrome for a guy living in a society that lets Ben Shapiro brand himself as smart. It's so good.

It's fucking true, man. It's so good. I know. How did we get fooled by that? Did you see his like tweet afterwards where he was saying that Don Lemon wouldn't say that justice was served if the trial had gone the other way. And everybody was just basically responding like, yeah,

that's because the murderer would have gotten away with it. It's like, are you fucking stupid? Yeah. Because he wants to have that edgy fucking other side of the fucking argument bullshit. That's just stupid. It's just, but it's just, he's got to be edgy.

And he's also got to, he's also got to placate that group of people that are going to be, you know, that are going to be upset. There's a paycheck, man. They're going to be upset if he has any other take. He's got to play to the paycheck. We got an image from Vice Rhino. So good.

Vice Rhino was going to send it to Heath, but then they don't ever check email. I guess he's just like, I'll send it to you guys. And we do check email. So we're going to post it. Vice Rhino sent a Ben Shapiro image. It's a lot of Duncan on Ben Shapiro this week, guys. A lot of Duncan on Ben Shapiro. It's so easy. It's so easy. It's a lot of... It's fucking perfect. It's a lot of dunking on Ben Shapiro this week, guys.

It's a lot of dunking on Ben Shapiro. It's so easy. It's so easy. It's literally easy. Tom, we got a message from... We got a message from Lisa many years ago

and then they responded to it again, Tom, to tell us how long they've been listening. This actually, this email, this is the person who read

the Skeptic's Creed in Swedish for us. Yeah. However long ago that was. And remember how fucking crazy that sounded? Yeah. Right. I still remember how bonkers that sound.

Your language is crazy is what I'm saying. And also Lisa from Sweden also hasn't gotten their V for C roast yet. Lisa, we're going as fast as humanly possible here. There's 25 episodes. There's so many, so many of those roasts. And they take so much time to put together. So much work goes into each one. And so we're going to get through them, we swear,

hopefully by November. And I know we're going away at a plug here. Tom and I will have to do our own little roast show pretty soon here. We got a message. This one's from Milo. And he said about the sex ed memories that we brought back

last time. And he said when he was in the sixth grade, they threw a curveball at the students and they showed them both sexes, the movies,

together in the same class. He said, needless to say, it was a tad awkward. The girls movie was boring as shit and not surprisingly, the boys was met

with uproarious laughter. Cecil, I'll raise my hand. Like I was a man, I was a boy raised in a house full of men. I would have loved that shit though. Yeah. I didn't know how anything worked. I had no idea.

I was like, I need some drawings or something. Yeah. We got a lot of messages telling us that snipers use suppressors all the time and silencers and they actually increase accuracy. So I guess they're more accurate. Yeah, I was mistaken about that. So that's my fault.

I was just wrong. Extra accuracy. So sure. Yep. We got a message. This is from Regina. And Regina says, if we showed the boys

the girl to women video, we wouldn't have grown ass married men running around who think. And these are the three things that I just... What? Period blood and urine come out of the same hole. Okay.

Explain a tampon to me then. Like, cause I'm dying to know how does a, can a woman just plug up the pee hole with a tampon? Is that what you think? Is that what you think? Did she just plug that up like a stadium buddy? Like what is happening? like a stadium buddy? Like, what is happening? Like a stadium buddy.

Also, women can hold their period until they get to a bathroom break like they do for years. What now? Just holding your bleeding times. What now?

What do you do? How do you do that? And also, women can't shower, swim, run, or just live in general while on their periods. Hey, you know why we got that though? It's because every single holy book says,

make them go live in the yard for six days. I know, right? Like that every single holy book is like beat them with a stick and throw them in the yard for six days. Oh, you've, you've got your period. You, um, Yeah, you live outside now. Yeah, seven days outside. That's where it is. You can't come back in until the sheets are clean. Yeah, well, obviously you need to live outside. Or just hold it. Yeah, just hold it. You can just hold it. And then maybe stick a tampon

up your pee hole for a little bit. Are you pissing blood or do you have your period? I don't know. What is happening down there? It's hard to tell. It just seems to get hurt. Tom, you wanted to read this. This is from Perry. Yeah, this is good.

Congress should propose a bill to make COVID passports the new national voter ID just to watch Republicans explode like the computer in war games. That's great. It's really, really,

it's really smart. And to be honest, I don't disagree with that assessment if you wanted to make people vote in person. I don't think that's an unfair to say you're going to be in a room with a bunch of other people. You're going to

be standing in that room for a while, possibly, and you're going to be voting instead of everybody waiting in that big, long, fucking half-mile line that we had a couple years ago. You guys can all wait inside like before. You just have to show everybody your passport. Yeah, well, you know,

if we're going to have ID required, we should have a national ID. Let's watch the fucking 666 Marks of Beast people freak out about that too. Right, right. So that is going to wrap it up for this week. We are hopefully going to have two things happen next week. We're hoping. We're going to for this week. We're hopefully going to have two things happen next week.

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