Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 580: The Long Game

Episode Date: June 7, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of Cognitive Dissonance is brought to you by our patrons. You fucking rock. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. recording live from glory hole studios and beyond, this is Cognitive Distance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. Cecil! Oh, I'm sorry. What are you doing over there, buddy? I would normally edit that out, but I can't.
Starting point is 00:00:53 What are you doing, man? I can see you. You can't. All right. Put your pants back on. We're in the same room. All right? Zoom rules do not apply.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Here we go. Okay. Now our listeners are going to have to pee. Now we've got to pause. listeners are going to have to pee. Now we got to pause. We got to let them pee. See, now, Tom, you and I have been apart for- Been apart a long time, buddy. 16 months or something like that.
Starting point is 00:01:12 Long time. So normally what I would do is if I was pouring my drink before we started recording, I would just edit myself out, but I can't do that. You can't do it. You can't do it. And I'm going to catch you. Catch you on your shit. Put your pants back on.
Starting point is 00:01:25 That's the other. Here we go. All right. Recording live from Borehole Studios and beyond. This is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence. Too many topics that makes the news makes it big or makes us mad.
Starting point is 00:01:46 It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no welcome mat. This is episode... Actually, there's two welcome mats. There is two welcome mats. We have two fucking welcome mats. Two welcome mats.
Starting point is 00:01:56 God damn it. And they're here in our new studio. Cecil, I feel like nervous like a virgin. Like we haven't done this together in a long time. It's like I've spent like a lot of alone time with just me and all of a sudden I got a partner again. You're working on yourself, figuring out how you work. And now you're introduced to a whole new situation.
Starting point is 00:02:18 You know, 16 months of self-love and all of a sudden you got a partner in the room. It's a, I'm sweating bullets here, guys. If you want to give it to your partner, you can go to adamneed.com. Type in Gloria Checkout. No, seriously. Tom is back in studio.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Tom, it's so good to see you in person. It really is. It's so awesome to be here. It's so amazing. Both of us got vaccinated well over a month ago. I was vaccinated late. You were vaccinated mid- Mid-March.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Mid-March. I was vaccinated late March. So both of us vaccinated quite some time ago. So CDC rules, it's cool to hang out with your vaccinated friends, folks. And so we are hanging out with our vaccinated friends. So we are back together in studio for the first time in a long time.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And it's great to be back in this dynamic. Here we go, man, in person. Because it's a different dynamic when the two of us can see each other. There's like a lot more energy than just like when the cat's running around. You know? You got to grab Rupert for the camera.
Starting point is 00:03:08 He hates it anyway. It's getting me back. It is so nice to be here. It's so funny because I pulled up and like on my passenger seat, that's the mask seat. Actually, I just throw my mask over there. I was like, I don't even have to. I can go in a. Go in without.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I can go in someplace other than my house. I could go in without, yeah, without a mask. And it was a little weird because every other place other than your own home that you go into, you wear, you grab a mask. I still wear a mask. I was like, I'm not going to fucking wear that mask. Pointed at it, got out of the car. It was weird the first couple times going out.
Starting point is 00:03:40 I went out this, Heath Enright came to town and I went out to dinner with Heath and you wear your mask into the building, but then you take your mask off when you're seated. When you're seated, yeah. And so you're just seated for,
Starting point is 00:03:52 you know, the whole time and everybody else, nobody's got a mask on except for the waiters. And then you wear a mask to go to the bathroom or whatever. Right. But it's really, really a strange feeling. It's so funny though,
Starting point is 00:04:03 how quickly my brain picked right back up. It was just like I almost forgot there was a pandemic just sitting there as long as the waitress didn't come by. Right, as long as that reminder didn't come by. That's not a reminder. But then when you stand up, you're suddenly shocked. You're like, oh, I got to put my mask back on. I wonder, seriously, I wonder if that's why rural America is much more pandemic in pandemic denial, right? Because their whole life is exactly like your experience eating dinner. Right. Right. Nobody's wearing a mask.
Starting point is 00:04:30 So like, there's not that like constant reminder that there is in fact a fucking pandemic going on that 600,000 people are gone just in the States because of this. But if you don't see that reminder and be like, yeah, it's fucking something that happens on TV. I met my neighbor the other day. Oh, how was it? And so like I moved from middle Chicago to an area that's not as progressive. It's just, I looked on the map.
Starting point is 00:04:54 There was a thing that was going around for a while. The New York Times had a, basically would tell you sort of what the split Democrat, Republican, where you're at if you type it in. And so I typed it in and I thought, you know, what do I got? Where am I at? I'm actually in the minority now. The Democrats are in the minority. Really? Yeah, in this area. So, you know, I wind up talking to a couple of
Starting point is 00:05:15 neighbors and nothing really comes up, right? Nobody's really saying anything. Next door neighbor here got vaccinated. So we saw each other. Yeah. We both kind of had our masks out. And so like, you know, you, you suspect there's, there's, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:27 they're, they're tied to reality. Yeah. They're not fucking insane. We're out working on the yard and a neighbor across the street comes over first day. First time we signed was actually a couple of days ago and we meet and we talk for a few minutes and everything seems to be going kind of normal at first. And then he says something about the pandemic. He says, oh, this pandemic.
Starting point is 00:05:48 He says, if this was a real pandemic, you'd see people in the street. And I said, tell that to people in India. And he said, that's fake news. And that's the first time I'd ever heard anybody use the words fake news in real conversation. And my response was, well, I highly doubt the BBC would be reporting for politics reasons in the United States. Fake news. Fake news, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:12 I mean, the BBC, what vested interest does the BBC have? And he kind of waved his hand. And he said, oh, it's not that big a deal. And I said, it is a big deal. I said, it's a very big deal. The COVID's a very big deal. Yeah. I was not ready to just be like,
Starting point is 00:06:24 oh, I guess we're just neighbors and we're just gonna be like friends yeah right i just no i'm gonna push back and i i just kept pushing back and he's like i had it early on and i had i had to get well i had walking pneumonia with it and i'm just thinking it is a big deal then the why that it fucking blows my mind when people are like i had it and i was real sick and you're just like yeah yeah okay so you know how you were real sick? Well, some people get sicker than that. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:06:48 Yeah. What is wrong with you? What world are you? It's like, I've had things. So I had meningitis, right? Yeah. I had meningitis. I remember this, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And I got better. And there were no lasting effects from it. But some people get meningitis and it fucks them up. Also, you had meningitis really badly. And I remember how miserable you were. I was very sick. You would never want anybody else to experience that. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And I also, I don't deny that meningitis is like a big deal, right? Because you're like, whoa, I had a, like all things considered, mild case. And it laid me out for two weeks straight. Laid my ass out. You slept in the old studio. In the old studio on a hardwood floor with just like carpet glued to the floor. Because you couldn't stay in the light. You couldn't stay in the light.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Yeah. Yeah. For two weeks. Yeah. Yeah. I don't understand people who are like, I got real sick from that. Anyway, it's not real. It's not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:07:39 How could it not be real? Yeah. You got it, stupid. And then he says, yeah, well, you know, I work for the post office. Yeah. You got it, stupid. And then he says, he says, yeah, well, you know, I work for the post office and so I got it way early.
Starting point is 00:07:49 They, you know, they ship stuff from China. I'm like, that's not how it's transmitted. It's not transmitted. Like, you don't get it from a package. They ship from China. You know,
Starting point is 00:07:57 so like, like this guy is just, he's just, he's not tethered to reality. He's not tethered to reality. Yeah. But it's interesting that it's the first time
Starting point is 00:08:04 I've ever confronted or been confronted with fake news in a real conversation. Like, I couldn't believe it. I'm thinking, what on earth would possess someone to go over and, I don't know, Francis Ford Coppola-like, direct a near-apocalyptic film in India and pretend it's news?
Starting point is 00:08:22 What would possess someone to do that? Yeah, and that's somebody whose world is incredibly parochial, right? Like they have, they have, in order to think that they have a small world, because that means that they don't have any connections with people in other countries, right? So their entire world is limited to the people in their sort of sphere of influence. Because if you talk to anybody who works with people in India, they'll tell you, yeah, like, I mean, like I've got people that have died in my team. I've got, I have employees in India. I have a guy that died last week. I've got people that are sick. Like we have people out.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Our production is lower. We have to like, so if you have, and that's not an uncommon experience. People have friends in England who, you know, it's a pandemic. It's not a localized epidemic. you know, it's a pandemic. It's not a localized epidemic. Americans have this like so incredibly America centric view of the world that they only see things through the lens of America. Right. Right. And it's like, man, talk to someone, make a fucking friend across any pond, pick a pond, make a friend across there. Yeah. It's fucking nuts. Well, and, and, you know, make a friend across there. Yeah. It's fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Well, and, you know, the talks about vaccines that I've had, especially online, are just really just annoying because people will say, well, they don't even know what's in that vaccine. And you're like, no, yeah, they just walked into the lab. Like when you were a kid.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Who doesn't know? Who doesn't? Oh, you don't know. But that's okay that you don't know. Well, I don't know what's in a lot of things. Right? Like, it's okay. I'm talking about the person who's sending me a message on Twitter. Of course you don't know what's in a lot of things. Right? Like, it's okay. I'm talking about the person
Starting point is 00:09:45 who's sending me a message on Twitter. Of course you don't know what's in it. You would not know. You would never know what's in it. But, you know, you know what you could do is you could go to a bunch of school and you can learn what's in it.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Right. It's not unknowable facts. It's just, that's not your particular area of expertise. Like, I don't know what's in a watch. Like, I'm wearing a watch right now. It works. It tells me the time. If you were to be like, how does a watch work? I'd be like, I don't really know. in a watch. Like, I'm wearing a watch right now. It works. It tells me the time.
Starting point is 00:10:05 If you were to be like, how does a watch work? I'd be like, I don't really know. Yeah, a bunch of gears do stuff. I have skeleton watches. I look at them like, looks cool. Don't know how it works. Build a watch. Can't do it.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I fuck with this most of the world. I don't know how it works. Build a TV from scratch. Right. Remember the guy who built the toaster from scratch? The toaster project. The toaster from scratch. the toaster project the toaster from scratch
Starting point is 00:10:25 there's this really great book and it's really more like a book about like supply chain economics but it's like a guy decided he wanted
Starting point is 00:10:33 to build a toaster as his PhD project or master's thesis I don't remember which totally from scratch meaning every piece he was going to like like if he was going
Starting point is 00:10:42 to get like tungsten he was going to find rocks and melt the tungsten out of it if he was going to like have iron he was going to like, like if he was going to get like tungsten, he was going to find rocks and melt the tungsten out of it. If he was going to like have iron, he was going to smelt the iron. So he's going to, and all he wanted to do was build a toaster. It is the worst thing.
Starting point is 00:10:53 It catches on fire. It's the ugliest toaster you've ever seen. It's the best. Check that book out. The world is too complicated for anyone to know how it all works. Yeah. But they have to rely on it.
Starting point is 00:11:02 What they want to do is type a few things in Google and they want to get an answer. And the want to do is type a few things in Google and, and they want to, they want to get an answer. And the answer that they're going to find most likely for them is that vaccines are bad. And that's the, that's going to be the word that they take.
Starting point is 00:11:13 That's going to be the thing that they pull away from it. And so, yeah, it's, it's a weird world right now, but I, I will say I'm, I'm utterly grateful that we're in studio together because it's just been so
Starting point is 00:11:24 long. And it is a very isolating thing this last year has been horribly isolating for everybody and you know there's a certain amount of zoom fatigue you and i both have oh my god and now we're recording two shows on zoom and it gets to the point where you're like now i'm doing this and i worked all day on zoom and then i come here and i do it on zoom and it's just a much better feeling. It feels like the difference between having a friend that you're hanging out with and like more work to do today. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:11:51 You know, and I don't mean it in a shitty way, but it's like, like you said, like you're on Zoom literally all day. It's all day. And then it's like, all right, let's do some Zoom. And you're like, okay, well, I'm on Zoom with Cecil and I care more about that than I care about my other work meetings. But also like we're trying to produce a product. Like we got to have dinner together. Yeah, We got to have dinner. We got to like
Starting point is 00:12:06 bullshit and catch up and like give you a hug. Like, like I feel human just being with somebody. Yeah. It's a different feeling. It's definitely a different feeling. And it's been a while, like a year of deprivation for so many people. And so I hope it's my hope now that, you know, with more people getting vaccinated, that we'll start to see more and more regularity returning to our lives. I hope so too, man. The numbers look great. The trend lines.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Fingers crossed, man. Fingers crossed. And you know, we're going into a slow season anyway because of the summer, you know, and maybe Trump meant this year, it's going to just disappear. Oh yeah. It's just like magic.
Starting point is 00:12:41 All you have to do is all the work. All you have to do is engineer a vaccine from start to finish. Distribute it on a massive scale. It's a problem. And get people to take it. Problems will solve themselves. We just have to do all of the work. Who knew it was this complicated?
Starting point is 00:12:56 Did you guys know the flu kills 60,000 people? Yeah, man. Yeah, dude. Fucking lots of people knew that. Everybody knew it, bro. You stupid asshole. Speaking of a stupid asshole, Tom. Yeah, dude. Fucking lots of people knew that. Everybody knew it, bro. You stupid asshole. Speaking of a stupid asshole, Tom, let's talk about this. Oh, this story.
Starting point is 00:13:07 This story made me giggle like a schoolgirl. It's so good. From the New York Times, Trump shuts down his blog frustrated by its low readership. So this is great. So after he got kicked off fucking Twitter and he got kicked off fucking Facebook and then Facebook punted
Starting point is 00:13:23 and they may or may not keep him off, but whatever. He's off now. He started like, I mean, it's a blog. Like, I think he wanted it to be a little more grandiose than a blog, but at the end of the day, it's a fucking blog, man. It's like from the desk of Donald J. Trump. And I wonder, like, how small is the desk?
Starting point is 00:13:40 Is it a little desk? It's a tiny desk with his big hands. His tiny hands on his tiny desk. What is he? Norma's gut. Oh gosh. It's from the desk. That's my favorite photo that they took of him during his presidency. There are so many good ones.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Pointing at somebody in that tiny little desk. It is genuinely my favorite thing. I will say that I love that photo. I genuinely love that photo. There are some wonderfully unflattering photos because he's such a hideous fucking human being. Like every single thing about Donald Trump from a physical attractiveness perspective. Admittedly.
Starting point is 00:14:16 His body is horrible. Horrible. Horrible. His body is horrible. He looks like human-shaped mashed potatoes. That's what he looks like. He does look like that. Somebody put it like their dad's suit on a human.
Starting point is 00:14:30 It's horrible. He looks like five pounds of shit in a $3 sock. I mean, that's what he looks like. He can't dress himself. He can't. He looks terrible. So there's so many wonderful pictures. But when he's sitting at that little desk.
Starting point is 00:14:43 That little desk is so amazing. It makes him look so small and insignificant. It's perfect. It's perfect. It's the little kids table. It's the kids table of presidents. And the best part is, is if that video of him,
Starting point is 00:14:55 and he's just like, how dare you? He's getting indignant. Super amazing. It's super amazing. So he's got this fucking stupid goddamn blog from the desk of Donald J. Trump. And like, I just got to read this because it's super amazing. So he's got this fucking stupid goddamn blog from the desk of Donald J. Trump and like, I just gotta read
Starting point is 00:15:07 this because it's so delightful. Mr. Trump had become frustrated after hearing from friends that the site was getting little traffic and making him look small and irrelevant. Ha ha ha! Ha ha ha! I love that so much. So on his stupid fucking
Starting point is 00:15:23 blog it says, and I love this because just listen to on his stupid fucking blog, it says, and I love this because just listen to the contradictions in this sentence. In a time of silence and lies, a beacon of freedom arises, a place to speak freely and safely. Is there an eagle? I was like, straight from the desk of Donald J. Trump. It's Eagle Man from those old commercials.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Oh, yeah. You're going to love your low rates. That's a Chicago commercial, folks. Is that just Chicago? Eagle Man? Because Man Cow was on those commercials. That's true. That is local.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I suspect it's local. I love that in a time of both silence and lies. Which is it? Are they silent lies? You could lie by omission. Okay. All right. You got me there.
Starting point is 00:16:09 You got me there. All right. All right. The beacon of freedom arises. And also you've got like... Is it... Does the freedom though, like the torch of the beacon of freedom,
Starting point is 00:16:19 does it match his comb over? Like does it come up like his comb over like in the same... I don't know. It probably does. I just know that his beacon of freedom looks a lot like that Sargon's eye or whatever,
Starting point is 00:16:29 fucking Saruman or whatever that thing is from Lord of the Rings. You could get his beacon, you can get his beacon of freedom, but he's got to pay you $144,000. I don't know. I could,
Starting point is 00:16:43 for $144,000. I'd do a lot for $144,000. It's 38 seconds of my time. You know, that's easy money. So I also like incidentally that it's freedom. And then he does also says a place to speak freely. And if you were grading this as an English paper,
Starting point is 00:16:55 you'd be like, pick a different fucking word, asshole. You already used free one sentence before. I know. Like, like crack a fucking thesaurus. Jesus Christ. Yeah. What I love Like, crack a fucking thesaurus, fella. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Yeah. What I love, though, is that he can tell he's something of an irrelevance. Yeah. And it bothers him. It hurts him. It bothers him.
Starting point is 00:17:16 It hurts him, Cecil. It bothers him, and I like that. Yep. I like that. It's great. His site was getting, they said, virtually no traffic. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:23 I don't know how many. But, you know, the one thing you've got to understand though, and this is genuine, that's not a reading crowd. No, no, no. So like Twitter is perfect, a perfect medium for him. He can be angry and offensive and shitty and mean in a very short time span.
Starting point is 00:17:40 And you don't expect a lot from your readership. I suspect his briefs from his briefing room or whatever he had were also very simple, but you're asking people to go somewhere else and that cuts off the flow of information. When it's two clicks deep, I'm sorry, they're not going to go there anymore. The thing is like,
Starting point is 00:18:02 you already have an app on your phone that is the clearinghouse for entertainment and information. And that's your social media apps that people tend to use, right?
Starting point is 00:18:12 So, if I have to go to some fucking website like it's 1998 in order to be like, oh, let me check and see what's going on
Starting point is 00:18:19 on my favorite ex-president's blog. You're never going to do it. Who has blogs anymore? All, like the thing is like, like, hey, shut up. Information is consumed. Eli has a blog. Eli has, oh, he's never written on it.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Information is consumed casually. Right. For the most part. And I think that's a real problem. But because information is primarily consumed casually, when you have to purposefully seek this asshole out, people aren't all that fucking motivated. Right. And it's amazing. Right. Like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:18:49 there's the fucking Telegram assholes. Those guys are maybe going to be motivated. Yeah. But the rest of the world, the rest of the world is like moving on, man. They're going to wash their car and mow their lawn. Did Parler ever come back? Parler's back on the App Store today. Okay. All right. Yep. I just saw that. Well, I mean, that is a place that he can go
Starting point is 00:19:06 that's a place that hasn't banned him right right and there's a couple of places that he can go but he doesn't have a big his mouthpiece has been shuttered because of the insurrection that he caused yep I mean like
Starting point is 00:19:16 you can't get away you shouldn't be able to get away with that and that's that's like one of the only things to come of the January 6th day is that Trump is no longer a super spreader of misinformation. Most of everything else is just, I mean, we're not going to see any kind of real
Starting point is 00:19:32 political damage. No, no, no. They've already decided they don't even want to, we don't want to look into it. Yeah. In fact, it's going to look bad if we look at what happened. You might, you might wind up getting people energized because of it in the future. So it's, it's a, yeah. I mean. It's mostly a lose situation. It's mostly a lose, but I will say that's an absolute win to get him off those places because he's a menace. He's an absolute menace. Yep.
Starting point is 00:19:53 I've just sucked one year of your life away. What did this do to you? Tell me. And remember, this is for posterity, so be honest. How do you feel? Oh, and also in schadenfreude news. Ha ha! I feel like that kid from The Simpsons.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah! Ha ha! I feel like I want to point at him. This story comes in New York Daily News. You can find it also anywhere, because ha ha! Anti-vax evangelical pastor, Rick Wiles! Rick Wiles! Friend of the show, Rick Wiles. Noted anti-Semite. Yeah.iles friend of the show Rick Wiles noted anti-semite
Starting point is 00:20:26 hospitalized with COVID-19 and given oxygen oh yeah so this story is just great because fuck that guy because that's the same guy who went on his stupid true news thing and was like oh the fucking vaccine is a genocide and I'm not
Starting point is 00:20:43 getting any vaccine vaccine vaccine, vaccine. And that stupid asshole is fucking gasping for breath. Now, unfortunately, Cecil, you pointed out to me today, his Twitter says he's getting better. No, that's what he said. I mean, like the thing is, is like the true news Twitter was basically asking for prayers and it felt like it was a little after this,
Starting point is 00:21:02 but on his Twitter, he said, thanks to Jesus Christ, I survived the CCP COVID genocide. I'm not sure what that means. What is that? CCP COVID genocide on the American people. Only America again. I will be released from the hospital later today. My breathing has returned to normal.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Pneumonia defeated. The worst is over. My deepest gratitude for all the prayers. I will share more later. I'm glad he's deepest gratitude for all the prayers, not the oxygen you got at the fucking doctor. Thank you. Right?
Starting point is 00:21:28 Thank you. It's funny, Cecil, because I read that and I was like, motherfucker, when the chips are down, every fucking one of these religious dicks, right? Every one. Every fucking one. When the chips are down, what do you do?
Starting point is 00:21:38 You go to science, asshole. You go to science every fucking time. Every time you really need an answer, you're like, ah, you know, I really want some science to help me out and every one of those fucking people that are now pushing anti-vax or or at least vaccine hesitancy are all people that have been fucking they you know they got the jim you know sean hannity's been fucking you know laura ingram you know all these fucking vaccinated vaccinated trump himself got vaccinated been fucking, you know, Laura Ingram, you know, all these fucking vaccinated, vaccinated. Trump himself got vaccinated.
Starting point is 00:22:07 So fuck off. You know, and if any of them got sick, they would want the best medical scientifically designed medical care. What Trump got. Trump got an amazing. He fucking got like these squoze, like a bunch of people that had COVID before him in a fucking juicer and he drank it. Like fucking Elizabeth Bathory or whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Bring me the virgin COVID blood. Let me bathe in it. Get out of here. Anyway, he posts a prayer too. Interestingly, Tom, you're going to have a hard time guessing this. Who do you think True News got
Starting point is 00:22:43 as a replacement for rick while he's getting better during pride month oh oh okay uh it's got to be somebody who's anti-gay decency uh a bigot uh well-known bigots because you sure maybe a maybe a Daubenmeier Milo Yiannopoulos I turned it on really I turned it on because I because Trudeau says
Starting point is 00:23:15 I'm going live because I wanted to find out what's going on on their Twitter and so I went to their Twitter and I saw the posts about Rick and so I was like
Starting point is 00:23:21 well let me check this out so I went and I looked at it and he looks I gotta say he looks, I got to say, he looks a lot more like snake oil salesman than he used to.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Okay. But he's in a suit and he's there with another person, their guest host during pride month to sort of say how not gay they are.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I was going to say, he's not gay anymore. Yeah, he's not gay anymore. Yeah. So is he, was he proud before and now he's not? How does that even work?
Starting point is 00:23:43 I don't know. He must have prayed it all the way though. Oh, I don't do it. 100% prayed it away. Do you get to keep the rainbow? Because I know that we stole, I know that gay people,
Starting point is 00:23:52 I didn't steal anything. I'm a cis hetero guy, but I cheered on the gay people when they stole the rainbow. Like I fucking, when they released the rainbow or caught the rainbow, when they opened their Skittles,
Starting point is 00:24:02 whatever they did. When they tasted the rainbow. When they tasted the rainbow, I was there cheering them on. I didn't do anything, but I cheered them on. Do you, when you're gay, reform that Abrahamic tradition, Noah tradition,
Starting point is 00:24:15 God, and get a rainbow back when you're not gay anymore? I don't know. I bet the rainbow... Can you even buy Skittles at that point? I don't even know. Are you allowed to buy Skittles? If you're homophobic can you even buy Skittles at that point? I don't even know. Are you allowed to buy Skittles? If you're homophobic, can you buy Skittles?
Starting point is 00:24:30 I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. Skittles are a terrible candy too. They are. Thank you. They're a terrible candy. Skittles are a terrible candy. Nobody should eat them.
Starting point is 00:24:39 And they also almost always are stale when you eat them. Yeah. And I didn't even know Skittles, most of the Skittles I ate were stale until one time I got a package that wasn't stale. And I'm like, oh, they're supposed to be soft at first.
Starting point is 00:24:51 They're so hard when they're stale too. They're like little gobstoppers. They're horrifying. You know the worst part about Skittles? Here's the worst part about Skittles. Every handful of Skittles tastes exactly the same. Thank you. Every single one.
Starting point is 00:25:01 It tastes like indiscriminate fruit object. That's what it tastes like. Every single one. And here's the thing. What you. Every single one. It tastes like indiscriminate fruit object. That's what it tastes like. Every single one. And here's the thing. What it should taste like is I should be able to grab two or three Skittles and make a different flavor. And I cannot do that. You can't do it. If I grab three flavors, unless they're all the same, unless I got
Starting point is 00:25:18 cherry, cherry, cherry, like a fucking slob machine, they all taste, it tastes like indiscriminate fruit flavor. That's what sugar mud. It tastes like indescribable fruit flavor. Yeah. That's what it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:27 It's like, it's like when you mix all your like markers together and you get brown, it's sugar mud. It's sugar mud. That's exactly 100%. It's fucking gross.
Starting point is 00:25:34 You're 100% true. It's the worst. The yellow ones taste the way pledge dusting shit smells. They taste like urinal cakes. That's what they taste like. That's the worst.
Starting point is 00:25:44 No, seriously. And no matter how much frosting you put on a urinal cake, it's not worth taste like. That's the worst. No, seriously. And no matter how much frosting you put on a urinal cake, it's not worth it. I don't care if you cut it into layers. Oh, it's my birthday. Whatever. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:25:52 No, but seriously, there's a certain amount of those in a handful that seriously tastes like you walked into a men's bathroom. Oh, you're right. It's the worst. It's genuinely the worst.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I've always associated that with like lemon pledge, like the dusting junk. Yeah, it's the worst. It's the worst. It's genuine. I've always associated that with like lemon pledge, like the, the dusting junk. Yeah. It's the worst. It's the worst. Skittles are the worst candy.
Starting point is 00:26:09 I think we can agree on that. They might be the worst candy. There might be the worst candy. Yeah. I can't think of a world where I want to eat a Skittle. There's no, there's not. And then they also get stuck in,
Starting point is 00:26:17 they're the worst. They get stuck in your teeth. They're the worst. I hate any of that shit though. They get stuck. I'm fucking 43 at this point. Like anything that sticks to my teeth makes me panic. Yeah. Like I out of air exactly like i'm just like like laughy taffy are you kidding me i'll confess what are you kidding me it's like you're getting waterboarded like one
Starting point is 00:26:34 of those like sugar babies or something yeah get the fuck i may as well just pull all my own fucking teeth out a bit of honey nowadays you look like mum raw, the ever living. It's just like strands in your face. Have you, have you as an adult eaten one of the sticky stick candies and bit down on it and you're glued together and you're afraid to open your mouth up. You're like, my feelings coming, my feelings.
Starting point is 00:26:56 It's coming out. You're like, I'm going to lose a crown. Yeah. Like I'm a hundred percent going to lose a crown. And then I'm going to feel this immense pain. Like somebody just punched me in the mouth. Like Mike Tyson just uppercutted me. I know what's going to happen. crown. And then I'm going to feel this immense pain like somebody just punched me in the mouth. Like Mike Tyson just uppercutted me.
Starting point is 00:27:07 I know what's going to happen to me. Yeah. I've done that. And then there's a moment of just sheer mouth panic because you're like, I'm glued together. Hot tea. I'm glued together forever. Hot tea.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Is that the answer? Hot tea is the answer. That's a smart answer. Hot tea. Unless you got like half a candy bar stuck in your mouth, then you're fucked. Then you're fucked. Then you're just fucked.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Then you're just fucked. No, at that point, you just jump off a bridge. There's nothing left for you. Oh, where are we at here? Okay, that's... Oh, by the way, Tom, I wanted to mention this story. I wanted to say, this is...
Starting point is 00:27:37 This story is so good. This sheriff, this sheriff deputy who posted anti-vaccine content dies of COVID. But my favorite comment was somebody commented on it somewhere, and I don't know where I saw it, but someone commented,
Starting point is 00:27:51 I guess his immunity was qualified. It's so mean. It's so mean. It's so good, though. Fuck you. The dude posted a bunch of stuff. He even had on his profile picture one of these like,
Starting point is 00:28:08 I have not been vaccinated. This says, 33. He says, I don't care if you've been vaccinated. And the other one says, I have an immune system is what the other one says.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Well, not anymore. No, I mean like, and I think that might be the problem is your immune system was just so butch, it kills you. I'm killing the COVID. I'm taking me out with it. I have. I think that might be the problem is your immune system was just so butch, it kills you. Yeah, I have no sense.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I'm killing the COVID, I'm taking me out with it. I have. Yeah, right? He's like, he pulled the pin. Yep.
Starting point is 00:28:31 I don't even know. But seriously, I have no, I have no, I don't feel bad that this guy. No, this is fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 00:28:39 This guy literally killed himself. Like he, he, he in the face of this, and this is the problem. This is the problem with this disease is that there's just this kind of idea that it's not, it doesn't, it, oh, 2%, oh, 2%. 2% is a lot. It's a huge amount of people. It's a lot. Think of your multiplier. Yeah. 2% isn't two people. Yeah. It's two times 320 million just in the States. That's why there's
Starting point is 00:29:05 600,000 of us dead. Yeah. I also like, I don't do anything that has a 2% chance of fatality. If I got in my car and there was a 2% chance
Starting point is 00:29:14 every time I got in the car that I was going to die. Yeah. There's no way I would take that risk. Your risk of like, fuck it, when you like go
Starting point is 00:29:21 fucking jump out of an airplane. I've gone bungee jumping. There is a much higher likelihood of surviving bungee jumping. Yeah. Like I don't do things with a 2% fatality rate. Nobody actually does. If like two out of every hundred people died-
Starting point is 00:29:36 On an escalator. Nobody went on an escalator. No one would go on the escalator. Nobody. Because if at the end, if at the end there's a 2% chance it opens up, it's like, nom, nom, nom, nom. You're like, I'm not getting on that. Are you kidding me end, if at the end there's a 2% chance it opens up, it's like, nom, nom, nom, nom.
Starting point is 00:29:45 You're like, I'm not getting on that. Are you kidding me? I'll take the stairs. Escalators are terrifying even though they're safe. I will take the fucking stairs, man. The moving walkway is hungry. The moving walkway is hungry.
Starting point is 00:29:57 It's like one of those old robots that you have to feed by eating. It's like Rick Wiles, a wild cat. He thought those robots. Military robot. Yeah, it's like a military robot. And so it just eats people.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Two out of a hundred people just get swallowed. You would never get on that thing. You wouldn't get on a car and ride with a two percent. Think about a roller coaster. A roller coaster is like 30 people on a roller coaster.
Starting point is 00:30:19 If every third time two people died on that roller coaster, you wouldn't be waiting in line for that roller coaster. It's ridiculous. I don't understand. We're like, oh, it's only like 99% survivable. Okay. Is that a risk you take doing literally anything else?
Starting point is 00:30:35 But it's funny because people seem to think they don't think like that. They don't put those two things together, but you're right. There's not a lot of risk in most, in daily life, there's not a lot of risk. No. That kind of risk is unheard of in daily life.
Starting point is 00:30:49 It's lower than 1%. Like 1%, it's like, no way. Are you fucking high? Abortions for all. Very well. No abortions for anyone. Abortions for some, miniature American flags for others. So this story comes from the Friendly Atheist blog.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Biden reverses Hyde Amendment's abortion funding ban in historic budget proposal. Now, we talked about some of the items that were in the budget proposal several times now. It's a big deal. It's a huge $6 trillion budget. There's lots of new stuff in there. This is really exciting. So the Hyde Amendment, in a nutshell, it's been around for a lot of years, and it prevents federal dollars from our budget to be used to fund abortion. So money can go to things like Planned Parenthood, but Planned Parenthood has to segregate the money that they spend on abortion from the rest of the money that they spend on reproductive and women's care. So those funds can't commingle. What that means in part is that you can't, if you're on fucking Medicare or Medicaid and you need access to an abortion,
Starting point is 00:32:02 you can't have one. You can't use Medicare and Medicaid dollars in order to gain access to this basic medical right. And it is a medical right until it's overturned by, which it may be, unfortunately, but until it's overturned, it is a medical right that weirdly is the only thing I can think of that is singled out. And this budget does away with that. And it's really great news.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I think it's wonderful. You know, there is a definite war on abortion. It's a war on women, right? Yes. It definitely works its way up towards the women, but it's a war on abortion in this country where they try to limit it. We saw recently the heartbeat bills that are coming up that are just a disaster. Poor, I mean, these poor women,
Starting point is 00:32:48 most of the time you don't even know you're pregnant before the heartbeat. So the chance of you getting an abortion after that, you know, you can't in some places. And so it's a disaster. Yeah, unless you're a rich lady, right? Unless you're rich and you could get on a plane and go to another another state where they don't have these draconian laws you can then go to a plan it could be a private doctor somewhere else it doesn't matter the plan parent but you could go
Starting point is 00:33:16 somewhere else and get a abortion if you're rich enough but poor people don't have this option they don't have they just can't get in a car and travel to eight hours to the next state. Or, you know, then they're stuck in the state that they're in. And they're essentially, you're forced to have the child that they were going to force you to have. They also don't ever provide any services to prevent these pregnancies from even happening. They don't provide sexual education.
Starting point is 00:33:42 They don't provide condoms. They don't provide, you know. Yeah, we don't do any of the things. Yeah, there's all these things you could do to stop it to even get to that point, but they don't do any of that stuff. And so there's just this war that happens. And the women are the ones,
Starting point is 00:33:56 the poor women are the ones that they bear the brunt of this. They're the ones who are getting attacked. And we somehow think that that's okay. And that's just the price of doing business. That's okay. And it's bullshit. And we're seeing now
Starting point is 00:34:08 that the president is making this a priority. And it's important that he's doing this because this is one of the things that the progressives very much wanted. And the progressives don't want to see this sort of thing continuing on where poor women are essentially under assault and they don't want to see that happen. They're trying to make sure that that doesn't happen. Perfect. I think
Starting point is 00:34:27 this is a great thing. And I'm happy that he followed through on this campaign promise. There is an ongoing war, as you mentioned, there's a war on people that are poor to keep them poor. There is like, we talk about America, like it is a bootstraps country, but the reality is that a tremendous amount of our systems are in place specifically because it keeps poor people poor. And there is a war on women. And that war on women is specifically designed
Starting point is 00:34:54 to keep women out of the fucking workforce so they don't compete with men. That's a huge... If you really gave a shit about abortion, to your point earlier, if you really gave that much of a shit about abortion, you would have a comprehensive sexual education. You would have access to all kinds of birth control at any age without parental consent, right? And then, you know, you would also have programs, social programs in place to keep kids busy. That's what you would have. And you,
Starting point is 00:35:21 if you had all those things in place, the amount of unwanted pregnancies would be drastically reduced. And that's just teen pregnancies. But then you would also have social programs which allow people to take care of kids without shouldering these massive childcare cost burdens. Some of the statistics around abortion are really telling a huge number of women
Starting point is 00:35:43 that have abortions already have kids. Yeah. They already have kids. The thing is, they know they can't afford yet another kid. They know. Yeah. But if childcare were subsidized, if you really cared about abortion, subsidize childcare. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Right. Right. Because those, a lot of people choose to have an abortion because they can't afford to have another fucking person. Yeah. That's why, like a lot of people like can't afford to take themselves out of the workforce again. Right. But we don't have
Starting point is 00:36:07 social safety nets. We don't have comprehensive sex ed. We don't have access to reproductive care. This is not about aborting babies. If you really cared
Starting point is 00:36:15 about aborting babies, you wouldn't just ban abortion. You would figure out a way to stop the entire process. Right. You would cut this off at the fucking demand side,
Starting point is 00:36:22 not the supply side. You would in a minute, yeah. But they don't. They don't. This is not about that. It's about making sure to keep women down and to keep fucking poor people down. Yep. How do you like that?
Starting point is 00:36:32 My own mother falling for that stuff. Well, you don't know, Larry. Maybe Dr. Kuh-hoo-ha can help her. Doctor? That guy's no doctor. He's a quack. So this story comes from the Boston Globe. I'm going to read a chunk of this just to describe it a little bit better,
Starting point is 00:36:47 and then we'll comment on it after. She's stuck with $75,000 in bills after her healthcare-sharing ministry refuses to pay. I will read the full article. How's that? Betsy Hargraves wanted to save a few bucks on health insurance a couple of years ago, so she switched to a religious-based plan. What? For a while, right? It worked, cutting her monthly premium
Starting point is 00:37:07 by hundreds of dollars. Then in March, she had double hip replacement surgery to relieve acute pain, followed by a four-day stay in the hospital and extensive physical therapy. The surgery was successful, but Hargraves' insurer, in quotes, refused to cover any of the costs. Any? Jesus.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Saying her surgery was the result of a pre-existing condition. She was settled with nearly $75,000 in medical bills. They told her the day before surgery, it would not be covered. Oh my gosh. Harger's financial crisis is rooted in her decision to opt out of a traditional health insurance plan, which she says she did
Starting point is 00:37:41 without understanding all the ramifications. Under the Affordable Care Act, traditional health insurers are prohibited from denying coverage to members due to pre-existing conditions. It was one of the biggest selling points of Obamacare. But Hargrave's plan, One Share Health, is not traditional insurance. It is non-profit, quote, healthcare sharing ministry, end quote. Yeah, fucking nonsense. And like all such ministries, exempt from the ACA, and therefore not legally mandated to cover pre-existing conditions. Some healthcare ministries have come under sharp criticism from state regulators
Starting point is 00:38:14 who say their aggressive marketing efforts have misled some consumers into the false belief their coverage is the equivalent of traditional insurance, only cheaper. At the bottom of its website homepage, one share says it is not an insurer. In an email, a spokeswoman for the nonprofit told me it's different from a traditional insurer because it does not assume the risk of medical expenses
Starting point is 00:38:33 incurred by its members, does not promise to pay expenses, and makes no guarantees of coverage. What do you pay them for then? Instead, it collects monthly, quote, contributions, the equivalent of premiums paid to insurers, from members and coordinates the payment
Starting point is 00:38:51 of eligible medical expenses among members according to its own rules. That's what insurance is. You just wrote down what insurance is without the rules. It's insurance with no rules. Yeah, it's exactly right. And then that's how they got around all this bullshit with the,
Starting point is 00:39:08 you know, with the ACA, you wouldn't have been able to get around that. But now you, they get around it. They get around it because they're religious, man. We talked about this with like,
Starting point is 00:39:15 how many times we talked about this with like, childcare. Fucking childcare. Childcare is the biggest. Thank you. Yeah, childcare is the biggest. And it's like, okay, well,
Starting point is 00:39:22 we decided that a good rule for childcare is that there shouldn't be a drowning pool in the center of the fucking baby dome or wherever you keep these kids. And they're just like, okay, all regular places, you have to check to make sure there's no hazards. But what we're going to do is distribute plastic bags
Starting point is 00:39:41 and swimming pools to all the religious charities because there's gonna be a dead kid there this year. If you fucking hang a cross, then you can have fucking zip ties and handguns laying around. There's such a sad story of this one guy that this little kid
Starting point is 00:39:57 leaves, goes away, you know, see content warning here, there's a child I'm gonna talk about a child dying, but seriously, like fucking there's a kid, a little kid who winds up walking away, getting lost because they don't have fucking qualified people who work at the fucking religion place. It's your fucking local church to watch your kids. And the little kid wanders away and drowns in the baptismal.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Yep. Yep. The drowning pool because they fucking, they literally don't pay attention because they don't, they're, they're not qualified individuals, man. Well, they don't have to have the same. They're there. Once't, they're not qualified individuals, man. Well, they don't have
Starting point is 00:40:25 to have the same, once you're a religious organization, you don't have to have a student to caregiver ratio, right? Yeah, staffing. So all of those rules
Starting point is 00:40:34 that we've decided are good rules for public health and public safety, all of a sudden they're not good rules if you fucking have a cross or it's in a mosque
Starting point is 00:40:41 or it's in a fucking synagogue. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. Say it out loud. Yeah. Why is it not a good rule or a good requirement mosque or it's in a fucking synagogue. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. Say it out loud. Yeah. Why is it not a good rule or a good requirement? The same thing is true of insurance. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Heavily regulated industry because it's rife for abuse. Yeah. And because in America, people rely on insurance to not go fucking bankrupt when they get sick or get injured. Right. And it's a terrible system and we should get rid of it. And I feel so bad for this lady because what drove her into it
Starting point is 00:41:07 is the ridiculously high cost of health insurance premiums. 100%. Our premiums here in the States are egregious. I mean, they are, if you're out of, if you ask an American
Starting point is 00:41:17 what they pay in health insurance and you don't live in the States, you will fucking weep like a child. And then if you ask what their employer pays, because that's money that could be going to the employee and isn't. Like you would fucking weep until you, you would never stop weeping.
Starting point is 00:41:32 And then if you ask like, well, if you get sick, is everything covered? Well, no. You still have to pay your fucking deductible. And then you still have to pay a co-insurance rate. Getting sick, even with insurance can cost you five figures. Fucking A, man. I mean, this year alone, like my wife got sick this year.
Starting point is 00:41:50 My family deductible is $7,500. So they don't pay shit until I pay $7,500. Well, by fucking end of February, I was in it for $7,500. Then they start paying at 80%. So you're still paying 20%. And then I pay 20% on top of that. And then that goes until you reach an out-of-pocket maximum of, I think, $12,000 or $13,000. And then it all resets at the end of the calendar year.
Starting point is 00:42:15 So magically, December 31st, it's all wiped away. So if you get sick at the end of the year instead of the beginning of the year, you can in a six or seven-month period, if you get sick, you can get stuck with, of the beginning of the year You can in a six or seven month period if you get sick you can get stuck with and this is with good insurance I work for a huge company. I have great insurance relatively speaking across america Like you can easily in a six month period spend twenty thirty thousand dollars. Yeah on an illness or an injury Yeah, the amount of money that you have to spend and then and then you're looking at You know the amount of money that that comes out of your pocket and then you know, you're you're still Contributing to spend. And then you're looking at, you know, the amount of money that comes out of your pocket. And then, you know, you're still
Starting point is 00:42:47 contributing every month. Yeah, you see. It's not like once you reach that out-of-pocket maximum, you're done. Dust your hands off for the year. That out-of-pocket maximum is just for the deductible stuff. Yeah. Your insurance premiums are still being paid every month. And your business is still paying those. So that's all still coming out.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Yeah. I mean, it's obscene. It's obscene. So I feel bad because this lady, she wanted to save a few bucks. She puts this money into this thing that describes itself in all the meaningful ways that insurance is described. It is a community pool of money, which is used. I mean, it literally sounds just like insurance. Like if you were to ask somebody, what do you think insurance is?
Starting point is 00:43:24 They would write what this thing wrote. Yeah. Except for like, except for what happened is this lady went to a doctor a few years back and she said, hey, you know what? My hips hurt. And the doctor said,
Starting point is 00:43:34 don't worry about it. It's probably nothing. But they made a note of it, her chart. And by noting it in her chart, that then disqualified it. It's a pre-existing condition. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:42 As a pre-existing condition. So pre-existing conditions are like the ACA wiped that out and everybody in America pretty much fucking take a poll. America's like, yeah, that should not be a fucking thing. It was just an evil fucking thing insurance companies invented out of thin air to deny coverage. Get out of paying fucking free car. Yep.
Starting point is 00:44:00 That's exactly what it is. And they did it a lot. All the time. To a lot of people. Enough so that they literally tried to stop it when Obama came into office. Oh, they fought hard against that. They fought hard.
Starting point is 00:44:09 They're like, we got to cover people that are sick. Are you kidding me? That's going to cut into our profits. What are we going to do? What do we look like, a healthcare industry? It's ridiculous. And this poor lady, I mean, 75 grand in the hole. And after this news organization picked it up,
Starting point is 00:44:25 now the company is going to try to renegotiate her bill for her, but they're not saying they're picking up. They're not paying for any of it. They're just like, yeah, we'll make some phone calls and see if the people you owe money to will take less money from you. Yeah, but they're not buckling up. Right. We're not contributing because Jesus wouldn't want us to contribute money.
Starting point is 00:44:43 I wish the American media would take a great look at the views of the people in Congress and find out, are they pro America or anti America? So returning guests, I feel, I feel like I'm back in the studio, back in the studio. We're back to the talkies.
Starting point is 00:44:58 And here we go, man. Michelle O'Bachman from right wing. I missed her. Crazy, crazy woman. God, the lady's got the craziest eyes. She does have the craziest eyes.
Starting point is 00:45:09 She has the craziest eyes of anybody you've ever seen. If you were to just hand me a picture of Liz Crokin, who I miss, by the way. I miss Liz too. If anyone out there knows. I think she's stuck in a human trafficking tunnel somewhere. Like, I don't know if she's getting like new fingers put on or like what her deal is, like Lee press on fingers or something. You know what? If I get just two little hooks,
Starting point is 00:45:33 it's just like, it's just Play-Doh. Just little dildos. Like, and if you want a little dildo, you can head over to adamandeve.com and her glory at checkout. All right, so let's play Michelle O'Bachman. She's saying progressive left carried out the Capitol insurrection to put Trump down the memory hole. And if you want to put something in a memory hole, you can go to adamandeve.com. All right, so let's play Michelle O'Bachman,
Starting point is 00:46:00 who looks remarkably younger, Tom. She's crazily Photoshopped in this picture. Yeah, either she got in a fucking surgery related time machine. Yeah. She saw the guys from Botched or whatever. Right? They did a good job. They did a nice job. They really like fucking sanded that thing down.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Yeah, they really pinched the eyes there really good. Really good job there, pinching the eyes. We're going to play Michelle O'Bachman here. Januaryuary 6th we're all told that that's the worst day that ever happened these were the worst riots in america it absolutely wasn't it is my opinion that this was a theatrical event that the progressive left put on the individuals who were the instigators who brought this. If you're going to have a big huge
Starting point is 00:46:48 acting production though, you want the left on your side. You want Hollywood. You know what I mean? You don't want the people on the right because they can't. We've been on god awful movies. We know what the right can make as a movie. Think about the guys in your, like, theater troupe.
Starting point is 00:47:08 They're fucking lefties, man. They're lefties for their own fucking safety. They're lefties. Are you fucking kidding me? I, what? Like, this would be, like, the weirdest flash mob. It's a literal mob. I mean, seriously, Tom.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Seriously, Tom. How is it that we're at this place? And it's such a weird place too, because the people that are, they're going to use this, the right is going to use this as a galvanizer to show the anger. And they're already doing this in places to try to take voting rights away, right? So that they're using this as a way to say, look at how angry the people were that the vote wasn't as pristine as it should have been. It wasn't as clean as it should have been. And one, you know, there was, there was rules that were thrown in place after the fact.
Starting point is 00:47:57 And, and, and we're, that's what they were mad about. They were mad that Trump said they literally lied and stole the election. That's what they were mad about. But they have twisted it now into a new narrative. And that narrative is basically, look, hey man, fucking, they were pissed off, but they're like Schrodinger's riot because it's like, on one hand, they're super pissed,
Starting point is 00:48:17 but on the other hand, they never did it. Yeah, on the one hand, they did it and it was entirely justified. Right. And on the other hand, not it. I didn't do it. That was somebody else. We're really at a place where you're saying that wasn't me.
Starting point is 00:48:33 Yeah. Really? Because I saw a bunch of people wearing fucking MAGA shirts and carrying Trump flags. Now, granted, I could buy a shirt. Sure, anybody could do that. Right? Except for that they arrest these people and they have years-long histories on their social media
Starting point is 00:48:47 of being right-wing nutjobs. And when you interview their fucking family, they're like, yeah, that person went down a fucking rabbit hole. Yeah. How many, like, articles
Starting point is 00:48:54 have you read? QAnon. They're, like, all QAnon people. So, like, that would be that fucking amazing grift. Okay. In about three and a half years,
Starting point is 00:49:01 we're going to need you to storm the Capitol. Here's what I'm going to do. I need you to start listening to Rush Limbaugh in 1996. Right. Once you do that, now I want you to wean yourself off Limbaugh and move over to Glenn Beck once he goes on to Fox News.
Starting point is 00:49:16 After him, go to Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson. But I want you to start, like around 2008, 2009, start tuning into Alex Jones. Right. I mean, seriously, these people have histories. Have you gone to 4chan? Right.
Starting point is 00:49:32 It's like, let me just see your phone. Yeah. This website's not going to exist for 20 years, but I'll type it in there now. Yeah, don't. What's a website?
Starting point is 00:49:40 Y'all know. You'll find out. Type it in your phone. You'll understand. You'll understand in 20 years. I'll write it on a piece of paper, glue it to everything you put in your pocket. It's so fucking stupid
Starting point is 00:49:48 because you're right, it's such a long game. It is such a long game for every one of these people because they, like you said, arm long length of every fucking thing they've ever done
Starting point is 00:49:58 that's 100% right. You know? And you can't, you can't take, there's no way they just caught the guys on the right. I know. Thank you. You know, and you can't, you can't take, there's no way they just caught the guys on the right. I know, thank you. You know? And there's thousands of people who is doing this, who is convincing thousands of people
Starting point is 00:50:14 to show up and put themselves in harm's way and to show up and put themselves in like the law's way and to like fist fight. How much do you have to pay somebody to fist fight the cops? I think a lot of money. I think I hate Donald Trump more than most people, but there's no amount of money that could have put me there pretending I was one of those. No fucking way.
Starting point is 00:50:35 There's not enough money. No fucking way. I wouldn't want to pretend I was one of them. I don't care how much I could grift them or tick tock them or pretend I was them and put a YouTube up later and be like, ha ha, I trolled you. Gotcha. It would not be worth it. It doesn't even make any sense.
Starting point is 00:50:52 I don't want to surround myself with those people. Yeah, that's the thing. It's like I have joked a million times like, man, if I just like fucking wanted the cash, I should just go be at one of these fucking evangelical preachers. I would fucking kill it. Yeah. Stand in front of a crowd. Fire and brimstone. Be fucking loud and like persuasive. I could fucking crush that. But the thing is like one, I'm not a bad person with no
Starting point is 00:51:14 morals. Yeah. Two, I can find other ways to support my family. And three, and it's not a small three, is like your fucking people are horrifying to spend time with. I don't want to spend any time. I don't want to any time with you. I don't want to spend time with you. I don't want to like surround myself
Starting point is 00:51:27 with your gross aesthetic and your nasty fucking values and your fucking nasty mom jeans. Get the fuck out of here. And that's just, and that's just going to like an evangelical. Imagine doing that
Starting point is 00:51:38 in front of the fucking capital of all those people. I couldn't imagine. And that's the thing. It's like, who are you crapping, lady? No, there's nobody there. No.
Starting point is 00:51:47 That is fucking doing what you said. False flagging. Bullshit. Get the fuck out of here. These were agitators brought in to create this problem.
Starting point is 00:51:56 I believe it was specifically done to rebrand Donald Trump as being an insurrectionist and a leader of a terrorist movement. He didn't deny it, though.
Starting point is 00:52:07 He fucking praised it. And also, like, what, did they take over his Twitter feed for three months? Right. Because, like, somebody tweeted that under his name. And it certainly wasn't Antifa.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Right, yeah. And did they force him at gunpoint to say all those fucking horrible things, to do all those interviews, to stand up in front of air force one or whatever, what a fucking air force chopper and have his little stupid press conference while he was walking to the chopper. So we could yell it at people and then not hear their questions. Did it,
Starting point is 00:52:37 did they do all of that because they would have to literally control him like with a fucking hand up his ass for three straight months while he's pretending that he lost the election. Or that he pretended that he won the election. You got to rebrand Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:52:53 First of all, I thought your guy was the king of branding. Right? I thought that was your fucking guy. Your guy is the fucking king of branding
Starting point is 00:52:59 except for when it's not. When it's not. He's super fucking powerful except for when he's the victim and he's a fucking... He's in the deep state. He's the fucking... Like you say, he's Schrodinger's not, right? He's super fucking powerful except for when he's the victim and he's a fucking, he's in the deep state. He's the fucking, like you say,
Starting point is 00:53:08 he's Schrodinger's president, right? Like he's got all the power and all the answers, but he's still sometimes, he's always losing. But he's always the underdog. He's always losing. Yeah. Yeah, I'm so fucking powerful.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I'm such a fucking big star. It'd be like, I can fucking arm wrestle anyone, but then when I lose, it's like, nah, you cheated because you got robot arms. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:23 You got robot arms. Get the fuck you got robot arms get the fuck out of here get the fuck out of here with that shit yeah like trump while this shit was happening trump was like tweeting out like like it went on on on air and it was like oh you guys are beautiful people go home thank you special place in my heart They had to take the video down because everybody on the legal team looked at it and said, holy shit. But taking it down doesn't mean it didn't happen. It still fucking happened,
Starting point is 00:53:52 but they took it down and then he had to replace it with the one where he's clearly being held at gunpoint. The day of January 6th was not, okay, I'll say it, a good day.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Go away, please. Don't ever come back. You're bad people. He had to like say they were bad people though. Yeah. And you could tell he never wanted to say that.
Starting point is 00:54:13 In fact, I think while I was watching it, they had to cut to a different camera. They edited that shit. They had to cut to a different camera because there were several times
Starting point is 00:54:20 where you could tell he probably stopped and questioned whoever wrote it for him. Right. Jim, are you sure we want to say this? Are you sure we want to say this? We're going to lose our base. Our boys are proud. They're proud boys.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Exactly. This was done to rebrand the Make America Great agenda. Because remember, that was considered extremely popular by about 80 million Americans. So they wanted to rebrand, make America great as an evil thing. And those of us who supported Donald Trump and that agenda as evil and terrorists, that's all a lie. As your listeners, she says,
Starting point is 00:54:56 she says, terrorists on the terrace, terrorist. Trump was ever the president. You wouldn't even know that those four years of his presidency existed. George Orwell. Oh, we know. God, wouldn't that be amazing though?
Starting point is 00:55:12 If we could just go back. You know, what's so funny is recently, I want to say this week, there was a QAnon big hullabaloo, like a conference. Yeah, there was a QAnon club conference or whatever. And people were saying Donald Trump told them that he was going to be reinstated as the president. Yeah, I read that same thing. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:55:31 He's still coming, guys. He's still coming. It's one of those things that you're just listening to and thinking, are you fucking serious? Yeah, I mean, look, man, the restaurant is closing, your date's not showing up. Man, it is. No matter how fucking desperate you are,
Starting point is 00:55:44 she is not showing up. At this point, how fucking desperate you are yeah she is not showing at this point you're sleeping near the dumpster by lady and the tramp and they're eating the fucking pasta puzzle like get the fuck out of here they're kissing over the noodle not you wrote a book 1984 he talked about a concept called the memory hole if the government in charge didn't want you to remember someone, they put them in the memory hole. Put it in the memory hole. Donald J. Trump has been put in a memory hole. Make America Great Again has been put in a memory hole.
Starting point is 00:56:11 In other words, oh, it never happened. Oh, if only. If I could erase that. If I had a fucking men in black pen and I could just fucking take that shit out of my mind. Yeah, just remove it. I want to eternal sunshine that shit. I want eternal sunshine the last four years. I would be willing to get rid of some really precious memories along with it.
Starting point is 00:56:29 You know? That'd be cool. Birth of my fucking children. Fucking wipe it out. First time you hold your fucking firstborn, I'd be like, fucking get rid of it. Fucking who cares? Inject that shit.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Who fucking cares? I can't believe that that's the angle that they're taking. Like, you know, it just feels, you know, remember when we used to cover the racists and the racists, when they get caught, they immediately fall back on themselves and say, oh, I wasn't trying to be racist. I wasn't trying to.
Starting point is 00:56:59 And you just want to look at them and say, motherfucker, own your racism. Just be racist. Just be racist. Like, if you're going to be a racist, at least look yourself in the mirror and be like, I'm a fucking racist. Like the guy who has the fucking swastika tattooed on his face. He's not fooling anybody. He's not fooling himself. He's not fooling anybody else. He at least is an honest racist. Tell me why you, look, if you're a fucking racist, I'm always going to think you're a
Starting point is 00:57:21 fucking bad person. But if you can like own it and then try to sell it to me, at least I think you believe it. At least you're not using it as a way to try to manipulate somebody. But when it comes to this stuff too, it's like, man, just fucking own it. If you think that the insurrection was important or whatever,
Starting point is 00:57:40 own it. If you think it was bad, at least Ben Shapiro isn't denying that it happened. Yes. Right? Yeah. At least he came out and said, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:57:48 what a terrible look. It was stupid. You shouldn't have done it. I don't know if he's changed his tune. I'm only going by the day that he did it. So I have no idea if he changed his tune afterwards.
Starting point is 00:57:55 But at least the day of, he was like, this is fucking stupid. Mitch McConnell. Yeah. Yeah. The speech from the floor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Horrible. Eviscerated. Mitt Romney. Yep. You know? Eviscerated Trump for it. Yeah. I mean,
Starting point is 00:58:07 later Mitch McConnell fucking went back on it and he's fucking got, he's fucking got balls on his chin right now. Oh, yeah. So bad. I mean,
Starting point is 00:58:14 they're kind of already there. I mean, like when you look at his chin, he looks like Peter Griffin. He does look like testicle chin. He looks like a fucking droopy old man sack for his fucking chin.
Starting point is 00:58:24 He looks like, just like the guy from that old man sack for his fucking shit he looks like just like the guy from that fucking pan labyrinth with the eye hands he looks just like that he acts just like that if you fucking take anything
Starting point is 00:58:34 from the fucking table walks around fucking stalk you terrifying fucker do you believe in UFOs astral projections mental telepathy ESP
Starting point is 00:58:43 clairvoyance spirit photography telekinetic movement full trance mediums, the Loch Ness Monster, and the theory of Atlantis. If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say. So this story comes to the New York Times. Stimulus checks substantially reduced hardship. Study shows. hardship, study shows. Researchers found that sharp declines in food shortages, financial
Starting point is 00:59:06 instability, and anxiety coincided with the two most recent rounds of payments. And I grabbed the Cecil because to me it's evidence of a couple of things that are important. The first is proof that government works. And that's important because we've been sold
Starting point is 00:59:22 since Reagan a bill of goods that the most terrifying words in the English language are, I'm from the government, I'm here to help. And that's become part of an ongoing zeitgeist, a repeating narrative that people have believed and internalized. And it's bullshit, right? Because government does work. It works not just here in America,
Starting point is 00:59:42 but it works in many, many, many other countries. And it can really substantially increase our quality of life. Um, and it's also important. I think it's, it's evidence that small payments is 14, $1,500 is not a lot of money, um, to each individual, but small payments spread out across the, the, the, uh, entirety of the populace and most of the populace saves or most of the populace, saves us money in the long term. Because if it reduces food shortages, it reduces the incurred social costs of food shortages. If it reduces other social costs, we pay economic costs for all those social costs.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Every dollar we spend, we probably make more than a dollar back on it. So it's good fiscal sense, and it's compassionate, and it's evidence that government works. And it's the fiscal sense and it's compassionate and it's evidence that government works. And it's the bottom up. It's that trickle up or whatever it is. You know, I don't know what you call it. You plant the seed, whatever. I don't know what you call it. It's not trickled down, right?
Starting point is 01:00:34 Whatever it is, it's not trickled down. It's bottom up. It's bottom up. It's plant a seed, whatever it is. You know what I mean? Like it's that idea that if you put hands, put money in the hands of people who need money, they're going to spend it., put money in the hands of people who need money,
Starting point is 01:00:45 they're going to spend it. You put money in the hands of people who don't need money, they're going to save it or they're going to invest it. Yep. And we've seen this time and time and time again. And especially when it comes to these stimulus payments, you know, this last round that just comes out, you read some of these stories in here.
Starting point is 01:01:01 Read this article. Go to this article, guys. New York Times lets you have like two or three a month or something like that. Open an incognito mode. You can have as many as you want. Go there and Read this article. Go to this article, guys. New York Time lets you have like two or three a month or something like that. Open an incognito mode. You can have as many as you want. Go there and read this story because this is fucking heartbreaking. Like it's sad. It's not fucking, it's sad to watch, you know, you're in a pandemic. You're, you know, you're coming out of the, you're starting to grip and claw your way out of this pandemic. And you're also seeing that people are, there's so much more hardship than just a pandemic.
Starting point is 01:01:27 There's so much more hardship. And it's compounded by the pandemic. And so you get a chance to see and read these stories of these people who are in real desperate dire straits. And what happens is they get this money and this money is a lifesaver to these people. It's a lifesaver. We're talking about people
Starting point is 01:01:45 who can now have three meals a day. Yeah. Like think about when we had Keith on from Modest Needs. The average gift from Modest Needs was about I think $700 is what he said. About $700. This is double that. And Modest Needs gets people out of a crisis, right?
Starting point is 01:02:03 And we have so many people in America who are on the verge of or just skirting a crisis or in the midst of a crisis all the time, all the time. Our national poverty rate or poverty level is set so insanely low. If you're trying to raise a family on the median income in this country, you're fucking poor.
Starting point is 01:02:26 The median income in this country is fucking low, man. And if you're trying to raise a family on the median income in this country, you're fucking poor. The median income in this country is fucking low, man. And if you're trying to raise a family on that, where you're trying to feed, house, clothe, educate, transport three, four people on $40,000, $50,000 a year, man, you're a fucking one broken radiator away from bad shit. Sure, sure. You know, how are you going to send kids to college? It's that generational cyclical problem that poverty is and creates. And government can help. Yeah. It can.
Starting point is 01:02:51 And like, that's the reason to have a society. Yeah. The reason to have a society is so that we are all in it together. Yeah. Like, I don't understand what happened. Like, America's just fucking so bad at understanding that we're on the same team
Starting point is 01:03:04 for such a patriotic, nationalistic country, we're weirdly individualistic at the same time that we're hyper-nationalistic. It's got this, always has this undertone of what does my neighbor have and how do I get it? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:19 You know, there's always this underlying current of greed and envy that always is so pervasive, but yet there's also this weird nationalist, like you say, hyper-nationalist thing. But they fight, and the greed wins. Greed wins all the time. Greed and envy win all the time. Greed
Starting point is 01:03:36 for the people who can get it, and the envy for the people who don't have. You just don't have. We have people in this country who make so much exponentially more money than you should be able to spend in a lifetime. In a lifetime. And there's a lot of people out there
Starting point is 01:03:53 and the tax plans that were introduced where people were saying, yeah, over the 10 billion mark or something. And people that are making $100,000 a year are complaining about this. You're never going to get there. You're never going to get there. Your entire career of working, you'll never get to that one moment, you know? And it's just, it's insane. People that are making like seriously, 1% of the amount, then they're just like, well, I want to make sure in case I get super rich,
Starting point is 01:04:22 man, if I'll raise my hand, if I'm making a hundred million and someone's like, I want to make sure in case I get super rich. Man, if I'll raise my hand, if I'm making a hundred million and someone's like, we're taking 50 million. I'm like, I get to keep 50 million dollars. I know, right? Holy shit. Yeah. Because I can't think of anything that I don't get. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:04:35 50 million. You get anything you ever want. It's every good. It's every service. What the fuck? What do you, what do you need? That's, that's 51 million. I don't understand it.
Starting point is 01:04:42 What do you need that's 51 million dollars? I don't understand it. Money ceases to be a useful thing when every good and service is within reach. Yeah. Once every conceivable, stupid, fucking dumbass whim you possibly have can be immediately entertained, what's another dollar on top of that? But we like don't get it
Starting point is 01:05:03 because it's scorekeeping in America. Yeah, right, yeah. It's fucking Pac-Man. You want to fucking get to the top of that. But we don't get it because it's scorekeeping in America. It's fucking Pac-Man. You want to fucking get to the top of the fucking leaderboard and be like, ASS. That's what you want to do. Well, just read this though. I implore everybody to go read this because the stories in this that
Starting point is 01:05:18 you hear really do show you that there's a lot of different Americas. There's a lot of people who live well under the margins in this country. And these payments were lifesavers to them. So we'd like to thank our patrons. Of course, we'd like to thank all our patrons,
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Starting point is 01:06:27 that that's able to happen. So thank you so much. Got a little bit of email this week. Natalie sent in- This is so great. An amazing poster. It's really good. For Jim Baker, a Jim Baker wanted poster.
Starting point is 01:06:38 We're going to put it on this week's show notes. Natalie, this is amazing. It's so good. It's really good. It's very good. We got a message. It's so good. It's really good. It's very good. We got a message. This is from Mickey and Mickey says,
Starting point is 01:06:48 just so you know, I made, sort of made this thing and there's a thing here that they made that is from a show that they might have cut a little. So we're going to,
Starting point is 01:06:58 we're going to play it for you now. Oh boy. That's hard. Oh. Yes. Oh. That's the. Praise God. Wow. The angel. Here's hard to... Oh. Yes. Oh. That's crazy, Scott. Wow.
Starting point is 01:07:06 The angel. Here's an angel of fire. There's such an anointing here today. Wow. That's wild. I mean, Sue, when you sang, He Touched Me, I knew people are going to be touched.
Starting point is 01:07:16 A miracle took place. Yes. The restoration, yes. Oh, that lady is so crazy. That lady is just so... She's just so, everything, she does that so much. So much. It'd be so easy to create something to, you know, mock her that way. I mean, and there's so many, there's so many things that are connected to biblical readings and things that are just innuendo.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Just so much. The whole like, I'm going to get an angel of fire. It's like a little penicillin will clear that up for you. You don't have to live with that, Jim. You know, he touched you. You know, like there's all this stuff
Starting point is 01:07:54 where you just, okay, he came into me. Get down on your knees for Jesus. You know, all right. Did he come into you? Like, wow, did he ask first? He had a tap on the shoulder. Did he ask you if you wanted the gook before him?
Starting point is 01:08:09 We got a message. This is from Mary. And Mary says, basically, they live in Utah, a small town in Utah. We're talking about wearing masks. Rurally, I said, no one. Now the mandate's over. Nobody's wearing masks anymore.
Starting point is 01:08:20 And that's common everywhere. Even in places out here where once they took the mask mandate down, I noticed that I was one of the few people who was still wearing a mask in a store. I don't have to. I'm vaccinated and I don't feel like I need to. But I wear one because
Starting point is 01:08:36 I don't want the people who feel like they should wear one to feel weird. Yeah, sort of a solidarity. There's a level of solidarity to it. Yeah, absolutely. I don't need to wear one. Right, you feel comfortable. I feel comfortable and I don't have vulnerable people at home.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Right. So it's just my wife and I were both vaccinated. So I don't have vulnerable people that are near me that would get Yeah, I got little kids. So I'm still masking up. Of course you should. We got a message from Matt number one and he says, do you guys have Cadbury picnic bars?
Starting point is 01:09:07 They are probably the best chocolate bar in the world. If you cannot get them, let me know. Give me your address and I'll send you some. So Matt, I'm going to look on Amazon because it turns out Amazon, you can buy other candies from other countries pretty easily. Oh, really? So I'm going to look for these
Starting point is 01:09:20 and I'll see if I can have them for next week. And we'll try them on the stream next Thursday. But I'll look for Cadbury picnic bars. We tried on the stream this week, if you catch it, we tried a Cadbury Neapolitan bar. Horrible. Shame on you, Hayden, for sending that. And then we also tried ketchup chips from Canada. Jay?
Starting point is 01:09:38 Damn you, Jay. Those are the worst. Jay hit some home runs, but he had some fucking real stinkers. Jay hit some home runs because there was a lot of awesome goodness in that box he sent us, but these ketchup, these are the last thing. Seriously. They are so terrible. So bad. Those ketchup chips are the worst. Very hard to describe how bad they are. We are going to get a lot of messages
Starting point is 01:09:53 from Canadians, though, telling us how wrong we are about ketchup chips because evidently that's what mom used to make or whatever. Yeah, it's fine. They'll be polite emails. Yeah, they'll be polite. No one's going to swear. We got a message from Leon. He sent an image of a good way
Starting point is 01:10:09 to do birth control in my opinion. Very good way to do birth control. So we're going to post it on this week's show notes. I don't know where that is. I don't know what city that is,
Starting point is 01:10:16 but it's a great image. So we're back in the studio. That's going to wrap it up for this week. We want to thank everybody for sticking with us during the pandemic. Shows I think will be a little different. We think this show is just different when we were together. It is. We just think it's different. It it up for this week. We want to thank everybody for sticking with us during the pandemic. Shows, I think, will be a little different.
Starting point is 01:10:25 We think this show is just different when we were together. It is. We just think it's different. It's different for us, at least. It's different for me. I mean, maybe you don't know this notice. Maybe you don't hear the sound. Maybe you don't feel like it's different.
Starting point is 01:10:35 But for Tom and I, it's very different. It's so much different. It's very different. Yeah. And it's better. Yes. So we're happy that we're back in studio. And come catch the stream next week.
Starting point is 01:10:43 We'll be in studio together. And it's a lot of fun. So the streams are happening 9 p.m. Central. You can catch them at Facebook, YouTube, and on Twitch. That is going to wrap it up for this week. We're going to leave you like we always do with Skeptic's Creed.
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