Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 608: Healthy as a Person
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Merry Christmas.
Didn't Joe Manchin give America a gift?
He gave a gift.
What a gift.
He's a sweet dude.
You gotta love a Democrat
who goes on Fox fucking news
to announce that he is not gonna support
like a fucking social safety nut infrastructure plan.
Fuck that guy.
Fuck him forever. Fuck him in a burning tar pit infrastructure plan. Fuck that guy. Fuck him forever.
Fuck him in a burning tar pit.
I fucking hate that guy.
That guy and, you know,
then there's all the wafflers that are back and forth.
It's not a bipartisan bill.
It's just not.
It's going to be down party lines.
He's got to be the guy to sign it.
It's the only thing we can pass through is budgetary stuff because
they'll filibuster anything else. So you can't even bring things up in the fucking house, in the
Senate. You can't even start a conversation because the filibuster will block it. So the only thing
you can do is this and he refuses to do it. And you know, this is a guy who has a Maserati. He's a, he's a wealthy
man. He's a wealthy guy. He doesn't have to worry about this stuff, but this stuff could really
change a lot of people's lives and could open up, you know, I think a lot of people's eyes to
the fact that good, a good government's social safety net can help them.
Well, and like, I've read so much analysis over
the last handful of days, and I keep coming back to this important piece. A fucking majority of
Democrats that is 51 that has to include the vice president to show up and do tiebreaker bullshit.
That is not enough. And I know that there, I've seen it already. I know that there is all these fucking
left-wing fucking naysayers who are like, oh, the Democrats see they're fucking suck and they don't
give you anything. They can't get done. Look, you need 55. You need 60. We need more of them.
We need more voter turnout. We need a higher percentage because 50 is not enough. You have
one fucking dipshit motherfucker in West Virginia
who has mad ties to the coal industry for his own millionaire.
He makes his millions in the fucking coal industry.
The union of coal workers came out this week and asked him to reconsider his stance.
He's not going to because he personally makes so much fucking money out of coal.
That's just like fucking whatever he says is what he says, who gives a shit.
But that's the fucking truth of it.
We need more Democrats.
The solution is not fucking the Democrats didn't deliver.
Like, if anybody fucking writes in and tells me, I'll fucking kill them outright.
It's not true.
49 Democrats are on board.
Even cinema's on board.
That shows just an ignorance of how government works. Right. It's just a very Even cinema's on board.
That shows just an ignorance of how government works.
Right.
It's just a very,
what it is is it's a very limited stance.
And it's also, in a lot of ways,
a very privileged stance because if you don't vote Democrat next time,
what is it going to hurt you?
Chances are it's not going to hurt you
if you're bitching about it now.
It can really, really hurt other people.
Like there's people out there
that are vulnerable communities
that can be absolutely devastated if we, you know,
I mean, we're talking about some things
have a time limit on it that are, you know,
climate change for one,
it has a time limit on it
that really needs to be moved on immediately.
You know, it needed to be moved on
the moment Biden took office.
But what's happening is, you know, if we start, if next, you know, in 2022, you see a whole
new slew of Republicans getting into the Senate and the House, that's an outright freeze that
you'll never see another bill passed, anything passed. No, no, nothing will get passed.
And then when 2024 rolls around,
they're going to blame the Democrat because he didn't get anything done.
And then they're going to refresh with a brand new,
it'll be a Republican.
Yeah.
And then you're going to have four more years of a horror.
And now we're in,
now you're,
you're,
you're getting close to 2030.
Yeah. It's done. It's done. Your, your, your, your life is over close to 2030. Yeah, it's done.
Your life is over at this point.
The thing is like,
fucking this up
creates generational problems.
Absolutely.
It doesn't create problems
that get fixed in two or four years.
I mean,
we have eviscerated Roe v. Wade.
We eviscerated Roe v. Wade
because Donald Trump.
Yeah.
That's the only reason.
I fucking guarantee that,
and nobody's ever going to sell me otherwise,
that if Hillary Clinton,
however much you might have hated her,
no matter what your fucking feelings on her were,
even if she never got a single thing accomplished for you
that you want the left to accomplish for you,
she would not have installed
those fucking right-wing theocrat justices.
And you can guess that when,
so when she was coming in,
it was gonna be,
it was 100% gonna be replacing Scalia's seat,
which would flip the court the other side.
Right.
It would have been a 5-4 Democrat side.
And then Ginsburg dies.
Right. And it would have been, 5-4 democrat side and then ginsburg dies right and it would have been you know and ginsburg probably would have stepped down beforehand
i mean i imagine so the the you cannot pretend everything's the same every nothing every
fuck you fuck that fuck that forever joe manchin fucking is working on and maybe has torpedoed one of the most important pieces of legislation
that we have even ever seen show up in our lifetime. I've never seen legislation in my
lifetime even approach getting this close to the finish line, that this guy is going to single
handedly torpedo it. The lesson we should take from that is we need more Democrats so that one guy can't fuck us all over because he's a bullshit Democrat.
Yeah, that's the lesson.
Any other lesson is the wrong message, because if we didn't have to rely on Joe Manchin, we would have this already.
And then we would have permanent child tax credits.
We would have things like, you know, government subsidized child care. We'd have things like government subsidized childcare.
We'd have pre-K for kids. This gives women so many more opportunities, right? This creates
economic equality and opportunity for women. We would have all kinds of shit we aren't going to
get. We're just not going to get. Caps on the fucking cost of insulin. We're just not going
to get it because one guy, the lesson can't be
the Democrats as a group are shit.
Yeah.
It's we need more of them
so that if you've got one shitty one,
you're not fucking handcuffed
by the motherfucker.
Exactly.
Makes me nuts, bro.
Makes me nuts.
Did you see this story today, Tom?
The story that Candace Owens
was interviewing Trump.
No.
And while she was interviewing him,
he came right out and said,
no, you should get the vaccine.
My administration was the one that put it through.
We were the ones who did this
and you should be the ones going out
and getting the vaccine and get boosted.
And then she started to push back
because she's been pretty anti-vax.
And he was like, no, that's not true should, no, that's, that's not true.
Like he literally like,
there's a story.
Let me,
let me call it up.
What is happening?
I don't even know what's happening anymore.
It's amazing.
And this is from the New York Post,
right?
So this is,
you could tell it's a slanted joke
from the right.
And,
and she,
he says in here,
I already read a line.
I had to read ahead.
I came up with three.
I came up. That's what he
came. But he walked that back on a different show, but he did say that. He's like, I came up with
three vaccines. You know what I thought? Yeah. I thought MRNA. That's what I thought. But, but
she even comes, she tries to push back too. Cause she's saying, well, more people have been
vaccinated this year and we've had more deaths this year than we've ever had before.
And you're like, yeah, well, you know,
we also didn't get the most of the population vaccinated
until, you know, we didn't start pushing up
into the fifties until the middle of the year.
So to say something like that is stupid, right?
That's a dumb thing to say.
Also, we didn't have Delta.
Right, that's another thing too,
that is a huge deal and a very big deal
for people who aren't vaccinated. Right. But he, he came out and said it on Bill O'Reilly too.
Basically the people in hospitals are the ones, the ones that are dying, the ones that aren't
vaccinated. He's been, he's been on this push. Why couldn't he have done that the whole time?
Why couldn't he have done that when he was? It's insane to me that he's doing that now,
but it is, but it's at least good. But what's interesting is,
is there's all these pushes now of the,
of the right wing crazy train trying to make sense of the,
the previous president saying these things,
because to them,
that's just,
that's nutty.
It's nutty because they are,
they're all on the a hundred percent anti-vax train.
And so there's a really weird,
and it's just starting to emerge,
but a bunch of people came out
and sort of decried what he said.
So I have no idea what's going to happen now.
Well, I have been wondering that,
and I've been wondering about this for a while,
that the MAGA movement will slip out of Trump's grasp, right?
And this is part of what's already kind of happening.
The QAnon shit slipped out of Q's grasp, right? And this is part of what's already kind of happening. The QAnon shit slipped out of Q's grasp, right?
So Q hasn't posted shit in a long time
and it doesn't matter anymore.
Once the fucking dogs of war have been set loose,
like shit just goes chaotic, man.
And I think that this fucking MAGA style,
ultra right wing, ultra nationalist, ultra white wing politics
has taken on a, like, yeah, would they like a leader or a figurehead like Trump? Sure. But is
he ultimately disposable to the cause? Of fucking course he is. Yeah, he was disposable. And what's crazy to me is like how quickly these things devolve, right?
So how quickly QAnon devolves
because there is nothing there to lead them
that suddenly there's crazy amounts of infighting.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I just see like one of the best things
that ever happened was Trump being taken off Twitter.
Trump being taken off social media,
you know, as bad as the January 6th thing was,
that was the catalyst that removed him
from all those things.
Right.
And so, you know, we see this conspiracy stuff
pouring out now and there's no real figurehead,
no one there to sort of lead them
and no one there to take their cues from.
And so now it's just all these sort of
desperate money grabbers and crazy people
who are all trying to either cash in
or just cash in on fame in some way.
What I wanted to like,
because the original,
because the whole original movement,
whether it was Q or whether it was Trump
or a combination of the two, it never had a sound foundation.
No, no.
And because it didn't have a sound foundation, it doesn't matter, right?
So you can remove Q, you can remove Trump.
The point is the energy in the system.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, sure. So the direction, so if the energy in the system is always sort of like, I don't know, bounded by reason, bounded by these sort of principles of non-hypocrisy, bounded by scientific realities.
Bounded by a fact, a singular fact.
Then they can't slip past those edges.
But the moment, and I fucking, like, I felt it.
I knew the fucking world was over the minute
fucking sean spicer or whoever the fuck it was was like blah blah blah alternative facts the woman
who said that it was uh kelly conway said it she said you know alternative facts and he he had said
they they had argued back and forth about well he's like you guys have your facts we have ours
and you're just like, holy shit.
That's not what a fact is. And as soon as that energy is no longer bound by reason,
then it has no, you can't constrain it anymore.
But it's my hope that just like you see little hotspots of disease,
it's my hope it burns itself out.
Because I think if there's enough infighting and enough
fighting back and forth. Well, there's a lot of that. Yeah. They won't know who to believe
because now they're not believing each other. Well, that's true. It could just break in a
little faction and they'll be useless, right? Because then there's going to be several that
think Trump is a plant and they won't vote for him again. And then there's going to be some that
think he's the Messiah and they'll, they'll be, but they won't be, they won't be all in lockstep, which is good because
if they're all little tiny groups, then they can be dismissed easier. I'm going to say something
crazy and controversial. I want Trump to run in 2024. Yeah. I want that. I do. Yeah. I think
he can't win. I think he cannot motivate the same base he motivated. He's a fucking loser now. Yeah. I think he can't win. I think he cannot motivate the same base he motivated.
He's a fucking loser now.
Yeah.
He'll have four years of being a loser.
Well, I mean, 800,000 people died.
Yeah.
And some of those people might be,
I would say a lot of them were his supporters.
And then all the infighting
that you were just talking about,
those people are all spun off to the side.
Yeah.
Plus he galvanizes the left against him.
Yeah.
I want that motherfucker to run again.
I think he would lose bad.
He might.
And I think we need another shot at this.
Yeah.
We are burning up the runway, right?
The runway leads all the way up to 2022,
but not really.
It leads up to like,
kind of kissing the fucking edge of 2022.
And then election time and all.
So, we really got through the summer. If we don't get our shit done through the summer, kissing the fucking edge of 2022 and then election time and all. So you got,
you got,
we really got through the summer.
If we don't get our shit done
through the summer,
it doesn't happen.
Yeah.
And then we're going to lose
a bunch of shit in the midterms
because gerrymandering
and just that's the way the polls show.
If they don't,
if they don't pass a voting rights bill
or something through there.
I know.
It's all fucked.
But how do you get it through?
How do you even,
I mean,
you can start it in the,
in the house, but they won't even hear it in the senate i know well they won't yet they i don't
know if there's any other they i did read something that said that they might make a rule change
that would allow them to bring the voting rights bill to the senate on a on a majority vote. Wow. Just like budgetary items. Yeah, wow. So, but
fuck, man.
Like, I don't
know if that's going to work. I don't know if like
Sinema's going to back that. I don't know if Manchin
will back that filibuster change. Because those
guys are traitors, man. That's why McConnell
this week was like, hey, man.
He called Manchin. He said, hey, like
you'd make a better Republican than a Democrat.
You'd be welcome over here. Yeah. And he's right, dude. He already is. He's fucking right. He said, hey, like, you'd make a better Republican than a Democrat. You'd be welcome over here.
Yeah.
And he's right, dude.
He already is.
He's fucking right.
He already is.
What are you doing?
They say that the Chinese were the first to experiment with electroshock to the testicles.
Oh, no.
Not Santa's balls.
So, Cecil, I grabbed a couple of stories this week on purpose because I thought that they were QAnon-related Christmas presents,
something I was thinking of calling Quistmas presents.
Quistmest?
Quistmest?
That's so bad.
This story comes from Yahoo.
Weirdly, from Yahoo Finance.
Yeah. I don't know why because
categorizing things is weird now far right group fantasizes that they've been attacked with anthrax
so and i'm just gonna read part of this at the very end because the end of this article is
fucking solid gold my favorite book is the comment from lindell which we'll get to later. This is amazing. So there was a great big fucking idiot rally that featured all the people you would think, right?
So it's like Eric Trump and Mike Lindell and Michael Flynn.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Insane, right?
These are people.
These are big names.
These are big names.
If you could get the pillow guy, you're crushing it.
I mean, Eric Trump, whatever.
Are you the pillow guy?
Is he like, okay, so let's play a reverse version, Cecil, of the game.
You know that game, who would you most like to have dinner with?
Sure.
Who would you least like to have dinner with?
The fucking MyPillow guy is up there.
Yeah, he's really high up there.
Really up there.
Really high up there.
I would rather eat dinner
with a fucking cannibal.
I'd rather be the
dinner than hang
out with the MyPillow guy. Yeah.
Yeah. I'd rather
eat dinner with
like one of those people
that they have to
lock up in solitary
confinement because they bite and fight their roommate or whatever.
I would rather have dinner with that person.
Like Hannibal Lecter.
I would rather have dinner with Andrew Zimmern
and eat what he's eating.
And be forced to eat what he's eating.
Just like bugs and balls.
Just bugs and balls.
Yeah.
And the other guy there would be Anthony Bourdain rotting.
It would be even better.ain rotting at the table.
It would be even better.
Better dinner guests.
But holy shit.
So this is not like a little thing, right?
This is like a big name rally.
And then, you know, it turns out that in 2021, when you gather a bunch of fucking people together,
and there are a bunch of fucking chanting, yelling, maskless, unvaccinated dipshits, disease spreads.
What kind of disease though tom well i fucking almost
certainly goddamn covid season i think it's anthrax it's almost definitely a million percent
not anthrax i don't even think they played any songs by anthrax i don't even know a song by
anthrax actually i do one song there was one song that was popular but i can't remember what it was
i was actually hoping you wouldn't call me out on that because i don't know a single song by anthrax there's one popular
song but i can't remember what it was i just don't know time i don't know and i don't care enough to
know you shouldn't know yeah all i know about anthrax the band is that they are every bit as
likely to attack these fucking dipshits as anthrax the bio They're like headbanging and like smacking them down in the face with their hair.
I love the fucking sense of grandiose self-importance
that is present in these numbskulls
that they think like,
yeah, I got attacked by a bio weapon.
I'm a bio weapon target.
So like your enemies are sophisticated enough
to have bio weapons,
but none of you died and only a few of you got sick.
And so they're unsophisticated enough to deliver those bioweapons either.
And mass they're incompetent bioweapon deliverers.
Like you,
it's just,
it's just delightfully QAnon,
right?
Because it's,
it's so batshit.
And then they were like,
yeah, I think they, they sent them out of the batshit. And then they were like, yeah, I think
they sent them out
of the smoke
machines.
It was out of the
smoke machines.
They put it in the
fog machine or
whatever was what it
came out of.
But you know, it's
one of those things
though that we can
know.
Like this is a thing
you can know.
Super knowable.
You can know.
There's spores, man.
You can know whether
or not there was
anthrax somewhere.
There's a way to
know that and
there's a way to know whether or not
you've been infected with anthrax.
There's ways to know that. And if both
of those things come back negative,
you have to concede that you were wrong
or you have to be part of QAnon.
Those are your two options.
Because these guys all test negative for anthrax,
but they are still
100% certain that they were
attacked probably with anthrax. Probably with anthrax.
Probably with anthrax.
My favorite line is from this.
I can't,
I have to read it.
I know where you're going,
man.
It's my favorite line.
It's,
it's Lindell.
It's at the bottom here.
This is my favorite part.
Lindell emphasized that he did not feel ill following the event.
He spoke on the main stage one day,
quote,
I don't have anything.
I'm healthy as a person.
And that is the most truthful thing.
Mike Lindell, Lindell, whatever, Liddell, Lindell has ever said.
The fuck analogy is I'm healthy as a person.
I'm healthy as a person.
Either people are not you.
I'm healthy as a person. either people are not you.
How does that analogy even work?
It's amazing.
Also like what a weird thing to be like,
that implies people are healthy in the middle of a global pandemic.
It literally makes no sense.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
Yeah.
What a bizarro thing to say.
So great. But it is,
but it is one of those things where there's all these people now fighting back and forth
about whether or not they were infected by this stuff.
And there's nobody there to sort of have a sort of a reality check because reality is fucking gone.
So there's no reality check.
And so now they just get to tune each other up and tune themselves
up to the point where they're just like
they don't know what to do.
And so now they're just making things up.
I mean, they're literally just making things up.
I've got to read some quotes from the event organizer
who's just an event organizer, right?
So there's like a guy who
plans events. He's got nothing to do
with QAnon. He's just a guy who
has a stage and he plans events. He would plan an to do with QAnon. He's just a guy who has a stage and he plans
events. He would plan an event for like the band Anthrax or this fucking Looney Tunes QAnon thing.
So this is this guy named Clark. He says, if you go to an NBA game or NFL game, there's going to
be fog. People are calling me every day saying, are you part of the Illuminati? And I go, what?
Clark insisted to the Daily Beast on Wednesday afternoon, there was not anthrax through the fog machines.
He noted if there was anthrax, quote,
one, I think we'd all be dead, you know?
I just love this guy.
Before noting that the church that hosted the event
uses, quote, fog for a lot of different special effects.
Clark asked those pushing the anthrax rumors
to show the dead bodies are physical evidence
of such an attack. And he says, there's no anthrax at the event and we have sniffing dogs they bring
in dogs a hired security firm to sniff and look for you know these are well-trained dogs look for
any potential bio weapons and drugs then like lindell is like ass and he gets all confused
at the bottom of the article clark again gets quoted because now Clark is getting shit, right?
He's this guy who organized it.
And then the fucking Q people are like attacking him.
He says, all I know is that we've done seven events of these so far.
And at each event, people have claimed they've been attacked by a bioweapon.
This is actually normal for me.
He further suggested he may ban people like Clemens, who allegedly originated the anthrax claim from future events.
Quote, as a general rule, if anyone claims you're you're illuminati i don't know if you invite him back as
a speaker right in addition to tying clark to alleged anthrax raining down on attendees clements
claimed the reawaken america organizer might be involved in child sex trafficking a claim that
echoes a core tenant of the bonkers q anon conspiracy theory. He says, quote, I'm a father of five.
I'm definitely not involved in a sex cult.
End quote.
Unless that involves having sex with my wife.
I fucking love this guy.
This guy is fucking comedy gold.
What is so crazy to me is there's, he's just some dude.
Yeah.
Who's like, yeah, man, I need
this many chairs. I need to have a
PA system and there needs to be a stage.
Right. And people are like, no, man,
there is anthrax there. And he
says, you're crazy. There was no anthrax.
And then they come. And then they even like,
you're part of the Illuminati and part
of his sex cult. These people are
absolutely unhinged. They are.
And they'll turn on anyone they turn
on them they're a fucking aura boris man they're just nom nom nom eating my own tail it's crazy
and this story this other story about i saw this kind of all over this is now the family says like
this is important to read the sort of the headline that the family says that this is what's happening
right but it's multiple members of the family are all claiming that this woman that is part of this q anon thing that's going on in
dallas is like fucking drinking bleach and other things and they go to great lengths too which i
love to mention that donald trump said we should use bleach in the human body to beat covid which
i absolutely love that they quote the entire piece that he, but, but these are people who,
you know, there is some, some part of me that knows for sure that there are heads of QAnon
that are, they don't believe it, that they, they, they are 100% grift. They're in for the grift.
They don't give a shit. They don't care about any of that stuff. We know Alex Jones is like QAnon adjacent,
but not QAnon, right?
He believes a lot of the same stuff,
but he doesn't like QAnon
because he can't control it.
So he doesn't like it.
Exactly right.
And, but the people who can,
or at least have some part of it,
I think there are some grifters in there
that recognize that it's just bullshit.
They don't care about it.
But there are some people who really believe it.
Dude, they believe so hard. They believe super
hard. And this woman's like drinking
like industrial cleaner and shit.
This is the same like... According to your family, right?
Right. And the thing is, I
believe it because this is the same like
miracle mineral solution
nonsense. It's industrial bleach that
they gave. They were like, oh, it's a cure for autism.
You remember when they were like touting this
shit as a cure for autism. You remember when they were touting this shit as a cure for autism
and fucking forcing kids to drink it and have enemas of it and shit?
And that's the thing about a lot of these is that you find that they do,
they have to believe part of it because they wouldn't be doing it
if they were just grifting.
Right.
You wouldn't be telling people to do this if they were just grifting. Right. You wouldn't be doing, you wouldn't be telling people to do this if they were just
grifting. If it's harmful,
then the grift is
secondary. You really do
believe that this is doing something.
Oh, absolutely. I think the people drinking
bleach and saying
you should all, because there's no money
being made fucking selling bleach, right? They're not
like, and these guys
seem to be doing it
themselves but the fucking q people are drinking fucking bleach and i'm just like of course you are
when i was i would when i was in seventh grade my english teacher was a guy named mr zubrow
and mr zubrow would teach us different like he was like diagramming sentences and like showing
you like this the subject and the predicate
and, you know, different parts of speech.
And he always wrote the same kinds of sentences.
It would be like,
this is Tom.
Tom drinks bleach.
Tom drinks bleach and is now dead.
And then, but it was always these funny stories
about stupid fucking people drinking bleach
because it was funny to a seventh grader yeah that you
shouldn't drink fucking bleach right here we are in 2021 and grown-ups are like
clorox me well there's so many there's so many different time there's so many different types of
other things that aren't bleach but make people delay treatment so they'll they'll do things like you
know what's if we're talking about alt-med there's all those people who don't drink tinctures of all
kinds of weird shit like walnut oil or whatever on that that colloidal silver oh yeah and there's
turn themselves blue there's some stuff though that's just harmless right but the harm is that it takes them a long time to realize it's not working and then they
just forego treatment during that time and that could be time that they could have saved themselves
if they would have started real genuine medical treatment but instead they've they've gone on this
you know this tour of wellness and they've fucked themselves. Do they Steve Jobs themselves?
Like, yeah, you got cancer.
Well, maybe I didn't eat enough vegetables.
I need to eat a lemon rind or whatever.
Right.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, now you died of cancer.
Yeah.
No, it's a, but it's this type of thing.
This, this is, this is very common where the toxic chemicals are common, right?
Those, those are common.
Different types of toxic chemicals all throughout.
The colloidal silver is a perfect example.
Turning yourself blue.
That colloidal silver stuff,
that's that silver solution that fucking,
that fucking baker's selling right now.
I mean, he's selling it right now.
It's a useless, unless you want to be a Smurf,
there's no other use for it.
None whatsoever.
Unless you're cosplaying a Smurf. That's the only thing you can do. He would be be a Smurf, there's no other use for it. None whatsoever. Unless you're cosplaying a Smurf.
That's the only thing you can do.
He would be like Papa Smurf because his beard would still be white.
He would look really fun blue.
And he'd be blue.
He would look fun blue.
Yeah, he'd look great.
He'd look great.
She'd look like Smurfette because she's got white hair.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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compete with Christmas. It's from iflscience.com. Anti-5G pendant banned in the Netherlands
because it's made with dangerous radioactive materials. This is exactly what I was talking
about, right? You know that the somebody who made this thought it was a real thing because they,
if you were just grifting, you would just make a thing
that didn't have any of this stuff
and was inert and useless
if you were just in it for the grift.
But these people aren't just in it for the grift.
They really think that they're trying
to protect people from 5G
with radioactive shit.
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you have terrible cell phone reception.
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but you can't call for help.
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Holy shit.
Like these fucking people are like radium girls in themselves.
No kidding. Right. You know these fucking people are like radium girls in themselves. No kidding.
Right.
You know,
in order to like,
yeah.
In order to avoid hilariously 5g radiation.
Yeah.
They are worried about 5g wavelengths doing unpleasant things.
Like they are worried about invisible forces.
They don't understand.
And to ward them off,
they are using invisible forces.
They also do not understand.
We know, already know our harm.
Right.
We already know the other ones aren't.
We know that 5G, in fact,
is even better than the previous generations
because it's a,
I don't know if shorter or longer,
I'm not sure which,
but I remember reading that it essentially,
it's a faster technology,
so the wavelength is different but
it's not it doesn't penetrate into brick or any of the like walls and that's why it's hard to to
have like for example at the at the old studio yeah we had an opportunity to go fully wireless
5g like like wireless internet but it was on the other side of the building.
We couldn't get it on our side of the building because the 5G transmitter was on the,
it was on the south side.
And that's the point right after.
We were on the north side
and we could not get it
because we were on the opposite side of the building.
I mean, that tells you that it's a better service
than other things that can travel
and go through brick and other places.
They don't even recognize that.
No, they have no idea.
They think 5G is,
first of all, you don't even understand
that 5G just means the fifth generation
of a technology.
They don't know what any of it is.
If you ask them how a fucking cell phone works,
they have no fucking idea.
But they're using fucking magic talismans made of fucking Marie Curie's fucking rotting bones or whatever.
Like, the fuck is wrong with these people?
It's like a radium paintbrush in there.
You know, there was a time, Cecil,
where it could be forgiven, right?
Where, you know, there was a time
where we didn't know much about radiation
and how things worked.
And like, I remember reading stories about you used to be able to go to the the shoe store and get a
put your biscuit under the thing and like wiggle your toes around and watch it and like put your
shoe on and see how your your foot fit in the shoe and it was like really cool and all those people
can absolutely be forgiven for the damage that they've done right because we didn't understand
and the mechanism to understand wasn't available and the research wasn't available sure but now it is yeah it's
like fucking common knowledge yeah the fuck don't get irradiated it's bad for you here's your
chernobyl necklace right it's part of the elephant foot you get the wear on your neck
i mean i believe that christmas it's it's it's almost proven that will uh...
christmas
has uh... nuclear weapons
can be a imminent threat to this country
that uh... they have operated ties with terrorists
and i believe that we should sacrifice thousands of american lives
uh... in pursuit of this war on christmas
and uh... hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer money.
But I'd like to get back to the operational ties between Santa Claus and Al-Qaeda.
I don't think that exists, Bob.
Well, we have intelligence.
We have intelligence.
You have intel.
And where exactly does your intel come from?
Well, we have tortured an elf.
I love this story.
This story made me so happy to read this from WTRF.com.
I love this story. This story made me so happy to read this from WTRF.com. U.S. military has granted zero religious exemptions for COVID vaccines. And I want to read a part of it because they're really doing this, I think, right. explain a complicated process that may well be futile. They also must assess requests from those
who may be using religion as an excuse to avoid a vaccine that, while credited with preventing
needless deaths, has become politically charged. So many of them come in thinking, if I make the
decision and if they make this case that it's a done deal, said this army chaplain with the
National Guard, I don't make that decision. And so when they find out, it's kind of a game changer
in the sense that they know that the process has to continue. And there's another part of it. Further down in the
article, Sutter and Colonel Larry Bazar, Deputy Director of the National Guard's Joint Chaplain
Office, said they tell their chaplains to be impartial as they speak with service members
and to follow the process. Meet the member where they are. Let them articulate who they are,
how they believe, and how they live out that faith. We're just looking for their articulation or their deeply held beliefs.
You're looking for a consistency in how they adhere to those beliefs. And I read that and I
thought, that's why you have zero exemptions. Yeah. Because there's nothing in any major religion or
minor religion that I've ever seen that mentions vaccines. Sure. Because they had no idea that they
were a thing when all these religious texts were written. Right. And so had no idea that they were a thing
when all these religious texts were written.
Right.
And so there's just not a,
there's not anything that they can,
they can fall back on,
you know,
in the scripture that says,
this is,
this is a fucking,
this is my deeply held belief.
And we saw this happen.
It's interesting because there's people now
using this to try to get out of service
with the National Guard.
But we saw that there was several people
across the country that talked real big
and there was a study that came out that said
people talk really big,
but when the rubber hits the road
and they finally get called on,
they have to go get it.
Then they do go get it.
Something like,
it was under a hundred police
officers in New York or something like that out of like thousands of police officers under a hundred
quit the force because of it. And you're like, okay, well under a hundred. All right. Well,
military is the same thing. It's like one and a half percent, I think is the number
that they're looking at about one and a half percent of people are seeking these
exemptions and they're, they're not getting them. And if they don't get them, they get kicked the fuck out.
Either they get kicked out.
And they lose a lot of benefits.
Either they get kicked out or they get the shot. Those are your two options.
If they choose totally just like, I'm not doing it, you get booted the fuck out of the military
and then you lose like your GI bill and other major benefits. It's like, fuck you.
And you essentially, I mean, you essentially wasted all that time because they don't pay those people very well. Right. You know, it's not like, you
know, that's a lot of money that they live off of. They don't get a lot of money when they're doing
that stuff. So the benefits are why you do it. Right. And suddenly you did it for that long.
You're like, well, fuck. That's a fucking evaporator. Yeah. The thing is like when you
sign up for the military, you sign up to, like, you sign
away your options. You sign away your choices. And, like, vaccines are a big part of that. They
test vaccines for all kinds of stuff on service members. They always have. That's just part of
how that game, like, you sign up to, like, do dangerous things. Yeah, You sign up to get shot at. Right. You sign up to go on like possibly get fucking IED'd.
Right.
So I like, I'm absolutely just fucking baffled at how this is the line in the sand for somebody who joined.
You know, here's the thing.
I will charge a machine gun turret.
Yeah, we're kidding, right?
But I will not.
I'm afraid.
I got a little weird about needles.
I don't want a needle.
Like really?
Yeah.
I will jump out of an airplane with a gun in my hand and hope for the best.
Yeah.
But I don't want to get a vaccine that 7 billion doses have been given out.
Right.
Right.
It's crazy to me that there's still this much fight in the population, too.
When you see time after time after time,
all the people that are not,
you know,
the people that aren't going to the hospital,
those are the people with vaccinations.
If they,
if they do wind up in the hospital,
they're not the ones that are dying.
Nope.
And if,
if that,
I mean that,
that data is just there and it's been talked about.
It's not like it's not talked about.
It's talked about all the time.
I don't know how that doesn't move people.
Saturday night, regular night.
You're all wrong, I am right. If she was a virgin, there wasn't a child.
That kind of story is simply too wild.
This story comes from
Human Rights Watch.
Saudi Arabia.
Yemeni man
sentenced for apostasy.
This is an interesting story.
This guy tweeted some stuff.
He thought it was
an anonymous Twitter.
They tracked it down
and figured out
it's not anonymous anymore.
He tweeted some stuff,
apostate stuff stuff and originally they
wanted to kill him yeah that was the original yeah they wanted decisions like we'll fucking
kill him yeah and then it got knocked out of one fake fucking religious kangaroo court and into a
different religious kangaroo court of nonsense and now it's only 15 fucking 15 years for tweeting something that challenges
Islamic faith. Yeah. I mean, don't say anything bad about Saudi Arabia. They'll turn you into
hamburger though. I don't know if you know that. Fucking hell, man. They'll fucking grind you alive
or whatever they did to Jamal Khashoggi. So, I mean, this is a brutal regime and this regime
takes it out on atheists. They take it out on people who don't think like them.
They take it out on women too.
They take it out on all kinds of,
they take it out,
you know, it's a brutal regime.
It's just brutal.
It's just an awful, brutal regime
that, you know, that we somehow are okay with.
And I don't understand why,
you know, they make these,
and Human Rights Watch calls them out on it.
They make these bullshit overtures toward progressive,
toward moving toward more progressive values.
And at the same time, they pull this kind of bullshit
where essentially a thought crime.
And that's your personal beliefs are just your thoughts.
They don't fucking hurt anybody.
15 years for even for blasphemy.
You know, 15 years for that.
That's outrageous.
It's insane.
And I don't know, man, like. And I genuinely don't know this,
but I don't suspect that the conditions
in a Saudi Arabian prison are very good.
And I wonder how many people make it 15 years.
There are a lot of prisons
where 15 years is a death sentence.
Yeah, no, it's absolutely disgusting.
And they're putting this guy
for doing a couple of anonymous tweets.
The thing is,
is like,
who the fuck listens
to an anonymous Twitter account?
I know!
Like,
somehow,
that anonymous Twitter
has some sort of sway
on the,
like,
who gives a shit?
But that's enough
to put somebody behind bars
in their country
for 15 years.
The,
almost kill him. I mean, let's be honest, years. Almost kill him.
I mean, let's be honest.
They were going to kill him.
They were going to fucking murder this man for fucking,
nobody should be murdered for Twitter.
You know what I mean?
Like of all the things that aren't fucking worth a human life,
fucking Twitter isn't worth a human life.
And how fragile is your own belief?
Yes.
That you're so worried about someone else not believing it.
Well, this is, I was reading
something interesting about like why apostasy is such a big deal in Islamic faith tradition.
And I mean, some of what I read posits that it comes down to a complete control over the populace.
So if their entire law
and all of their organizational
and fundamental structure
is based on Islamic law,
and then you say,
I don't believe in that.
You aren't just saying,
I don't believe.
You're saying,
I'm throwing away your entire culture.
I am saying,
I'm throwing away your legal system.
I'm throwing away your governmental system.
If it's that intertwined
with how they're going to punish you, then you then you got a point right you know what i
mean you got a point because it's it's intertwined they have they have specific people that go out
these witch patrols and whatever yeah you know i mean like morality cops they have they have
islamic police they have people who who do like they, they charge people with this sort of thing.
And then they get,
like you say,
go to some rando court where they get,
first get told they're going to die.
Fuck.
And then they go to appeals and like,
nah,
it's just 15 years of your life when you're 40.
So 15 years.
That's the rest of it or most of it.
Anyway.
My dear Holmes,
as the first atheist mayor,
I am shutting down the church. But it's Christmas. Well, you should have thought of that to your homes. As the first atheist mayor, I am shutting down the church.
But it's Christmas.
Well, you should have thought of that when I campaigned as the first atheist mayor.
Can we at least hear the Christmas chimes?
No.
In fact, I removed the chimey thingy that makes the chimey noise.
So you're screwed.
Oh, and vote for me in November.
This story comes from the Boston Globe, and I saw this a couple other places as well.
Democrats should apply Supreme Court's abortion decision to firearms.
And what it's referring to is a California initiative
that would allow any Californian to sue anyone
who manufactures, distributes, or sells an assault weapon
or ghost gun kit or parts and recover unlimited damages.
I have complicated thoughts on this, man.
I don't think it's going to work.
No?
No, well, because like Roe v. Wade is a decision, right?
So that's like a decision by the court,
but like Second Amendment's like an amendment, man.
Like I feel like you're going to run into some problems.
It's going to go to the maiden thing
and they're just going to be like,
do you see the board?
It's on the board.
It's like right there on the board.
It's the second one on the board.
And we have already decided
that that definition of the second amendment
means what we have right now.
It's what we have right now. It's what we have right now,
and we've already made that decision.
That is clear law.
Look no further than our own state
when we decided to try to do some sorts of gun laws
here in our state that got overturned by the Supreme Court.
The handgun ban in Chicago was lifted.
It's so funny because it's still the talking point
on the right, because they're so stupid,
they don't even realize that they won,
that it's like literally-
I know.
But that handgun ban, that's been lifted.
So, you used to have to have a permit in Chicago
to have a handgun, a specific Chicago permit
to have a handgun.
And for years when I lived there,
I didn't own a handgun.
I was like, well, I won't own one then.
Why would I do that?
Because I'm not going to bother.
And then when the concealed carry laws came in,
they blew that up.
Essentially, you can't ask somebody to do that.
And so the laws that we have are the laws that we have.
And if you did do something like this,
I think immediately they would just be like,
especially this court would just tap the sign.
Just annoyingly tap the sign.
I don't think this,
I don't think anything's going to come of it either.
And I think anything's going to come of it.
I think you make a great point about the amendment.
I didn't even think about that.
But I also think that the courts
are going to purposely skirt,
and I don't know this,
but I mean, they keep doing it.
I think they're going to purposely skirt the legality of the structural element of the law in Texas, right?
So the structural element at play that California is trying to say, if you allow this, you must allow that.
If the courts don't explicitly rule on that structural element around like vigilanteism.
Yeah, I guess I didn't consider that.
Then they won't perceive a precedential problem in having conflict there, right?
I so strongly disagree with the Texas structure that creates vigilantes that I don't like using it. I mean, I understand using it to make a point, but I don't like using it on sort of my side of the issue, too.
Sure.
It's two wrongs making a right.
Yeah.
Two wrongs making a right.
Yeah, and I don't, so if the goal is to force the issue
to make the Supreme Court examine
the structural element of that law,
then I support forcing their hand
to look at the structural element.
I think guns, you make a great point
that they could just dismiss this on the amendment issue
and never address the structural piece.
And I was trying to think of an analog.
Like if you want to get the structural piece looked
into, what's the analog on the right
that you could bring
that could be something like this? And I couldn't think
of anything. I can't think of anything either. So if
somebody out there knows of something and can think of something,
send it to us because I'd be interested to know what
thing could you use?
I don't agree with you.
I agree with you in the sense that I wouldn't want to use
this system anyway
because I think it's giving some sort of kudos to this system
where it doesn't deserve.
It's a shitty, terrible idea.
It's weaponizing our civil courts to essentially ban
or nearly outright ban abortion.
Right.
And it'll tie up courts.
It sounds terrible.
It sounds like a horror.
But I'd be curious to know
if anybody thinks that there's a thing out there,
something out there,
that you could then do the exact same thing.
And the way that abortion,
that abortion Texas law works
is that you can't sue the actual person getting the abortion. You sue the people who facilitate that abortion Texas law works is that you can't sue the actual person
getting the abortion.
You sue the people
who facilitate that abortion.
Right.
So you sue the care providers.
You could even sue someone
who drives them
like an Uber driver
to get an abortion.
So anybody who helps facilitate
that abortion is fair game.
The person getting it is not.
So that's the thing is that we can look at what is it that you is fair game. The person getting it is not. So that's the thing is that we
can look at what is it that you can look at? It's not guns. I don't feel like it's guns,
but there's got to be something else that they love that you could feasibly fuck with,
but I don't know. And I would like to see that. I don't know. It's got to be something that the
left likes and the right hates. It's got to be a wedge issue. It's got to be something that the left likes and the right hates. It's got to be a wedge issue.
It's got to be something that has that structural element
that isn't protected by an amendment.
Guns and abortion are the only two though.
I mean, like, and that's why they immediately went to guns.
I know.
Because that's the only other wedge issue.
Those two major wedge issues
keep much of the country voting Republican
time and time and time again,
even in the face of,
because they're both freedom issues.
Yeah.
You know, one freedom to take your rights away
and one freedom to keep your rights.
Well, then why send a letter?
I mean, if it's really that important,
you should just ask him face to face.
Oh, but that's right.
No one's ever seen him.
My bad.
Come on, Max.
Let's get out of here.
This story comes from the independent Madison Cawthorn under fire after calling on fellow conservatives to drop out of college like him.
Just, I mean, Cecil, I looked him up on Wikipedia.
He went to school for a year.
Yeah.
He went to college for a year. He went to college for one
year. And I think it shows. College isn't for everybody. I'm not saying it is. But what I'm
saying is we don't want to encourage people to quit hard things. We don't want to encourage
people to be less educated. You don't want to encourage people to not get a
fucking education in a world that increasingly requires us to be more and more educated to solve
the problems that we find ourselves existentially facing. Also, the difficult part about quitting
college is college is fucking expensive. Yeah.
And when you walk away from college and you quit college,
you have a big bill you have to pay.
And you were training to maybe do a job
or to have some sort of skill set in that college
to get a job that's enough to pay that bill off.
But now you're leaving with
what you essentially had coming in.
Yeah, man. A degree is a zero-sum thing. Yeah. You're leaving with what you essentially had coming in. Yeah, man.
A degree is a zero-sum thing.
Yeah.
You either have it or you don't.
Yeah.
Nobody gives a shit
if you have three years.
I kind of have a degree.
Like, who cares?
Right, yeah.
So, like,
if you,
if what you did was
you accumulated the debt
and didn't reap the reward,
like,
what the fuck kind of message?
But I,
this is such a crass appeal to ignorance.
Yeah, 100%. This is a pandering to a certain base of people
who loves the fact that they're,
like, one of the most important and cherished things
about some groups of people
is that they are an everyman.
Yeah, that they're not college educated.
Exactly.
And you know, it's interesting too,
because they always seem to blame college
for like sort of a liberal indoctrination.
Right.
But I will tell you, I went to a Catholic school.
So I went to a Catholic college
and I went to a Catholic college
because they offered to pay for a lot of my salary. Or my salary. They offered to pay for a lot of my salary.
Or my salary.
They offered to pay for a lot of my education.
They offered to pay for,
essentially pay for me to have a price
that was about as much as a public school.
Right.
Like a state school,
but it was 30 people classes.
Right.
Which is just, it's just better.
How much better is that?
Yeah.
And it was in an area, which is just, it's just better. How much better is that? Yeah. And it was in a,
it was in an area of Chicago that I liked better
and it was easier to get to.
And I figured, and the people seemed like,
the things that I did to read up on the college
felt like the right choice.
They also had a philosophy program I was interested in.
So there was all these pluses.
And I remember going
and I had plenty of far right teachers.
I had a journalist teacher, a journalism teacher,
100% hated Obama, 100% hated Obama,
talked about it all the time,
talked about how badly Obama was doing
in the presidency constantly, like constantly in class.
But what the people on the right don't understand
is that no matter what I'm hearing in the classes,
I'm getting a way to see the world
in a more broad sense.
And that just by nature makes you more liberal.
You go to a college and you start seeing things
in a broad sense.
And suddenly you start voting Democrat
because you start seeing that, you know,
people have it different than you do.
It's not just all the same people
in the same 10 square mile area that you grew up
and everybody's, you know, the same.
Yeah. I mean, read a bunch of books.
Yeah.
Understand people's experiences.
Understand history.
And you're like, wow.
You know, I mean, like I have a degree in English literature
and you read a bunch of stories of how people live
and how they feel and what they think.
And if that doesn't create empathy,
then I don't know how you read those books. You know And if that doesn't create empathy, then I don't know how you read
those books. You know, if that doesn't inspire you to understand things about the human condition,
and that's every education, every education to your point. It's, I go there, especially a liberal
arts education, especially a liberal arts education. You're going to meet people from all over. You go
to any college of any size, you can meet people from all over the country, if not all over the world.
You're going to be exposed to a host of different ideas.
That broadens.
That necessarily broadens.
But the Republicans are counting on a shrinking.
And that's what Cawthorn wants.
Guys like Cawthorn, they want to celebrate the shrinking.
They want shrinkage.
It's cold in the pool.
He doesn't.
It's always cold in his pool.
He doesn't want people to get smart enough to know that he's bullshitting them.
Yeah.
I think that's a real.
That's a big part of it.
Really the big problem.
Yeah.
Is that he knows that if he keeps his base unstudied.
Yeah.
They're not going to notice the grift.
Because he's a grifter.
He's totally a grifter. Yeah. They're not going to notice the grift because he's a grifter. He's totally a grifter.
Yeah.
On the first day of Christmas,
my true love sent to me a book.
So for this week,
we read chapter 20 of Demon Haunted World,
House on Fire.
I thought it was going to be different.
I did too.
When I saw the title of it,
I thought, oh God,
it's going to be about global warming
and it's going to be so sad
because you're looking into the future thinking, oh my God, you know, we're 20 years,
25 years past this. Right. And in 25 years, it's been worse than anybody ever thought. Instead,
it was about the previous chapter. So the previous chapter that we read was about science education
in the United States. And that was again produced and published by Parade Magazine.
And he received his letters.
And the letters, again,
he read as hate mail.
Yeah.
Some of it.
I mean, some of it isn't.
Some of it's supportive,
but most of it isn't.
Some of it is not.
The kids' ones were hilarious.
Oh my God.
The kids' ones were funny.
I will say this though.
In comparison, I'm going gonna sound so old here but
in comparison to like like the way i read comments on the internet the way the comments are typed out
these comments from these children in parade magazine look like civil war letters and
they're like my dearest diana or, you know, I mean, seriously,
in comparison to nowadays with, you know, like,
like the way people comment on threads, it's,
it's very different than the, you know,
they mess up a couple of things there and there they misspell it. But I mean,
goodness, the spelling, I mean, spelling, spelling today,
even when you have like an auto-correct or, you know,
there's a squiggly line under the thing you're typing and you still don't correct it.
It's impossibly bad.
It's insane.
But the chapter itself is basically his hate mail and some other messages. this sort of this this fire burning in children to keep them uh wanting to study science making
science interesting making learning interesting and then he talks at the very last piece of this
chapter is about a couple of women who basically create a science center uh with funding in Ithaca, New York, where he lives.
And he talks about their sort of ground up building
of this science center that is an amazing science center.
And he spends some time talking about
how these types of things, these science centers
where kids can actually get their hands dirty
and touch things and fiddle around
are really, they're integral to children loving science.
I'm curious if you felt called out as a city
by that chapter, because I did.
Because one of the things that he mentions
is too many science museums look like an advertisement
for energy industries.
Yeah, right, yeah.
And I laugh because up until relatively recently,
and I think it's gotten better,
but man, when we were kids,
the Museum of Science and Industry here in Chicago
was the most
like just
crassly sponsored
hands-on commercial
to sell people the fucking
joy of coal. Absolutely.
100%. It was the worst.
Literally a coal mine going down into was the worst. Literally a coal mine
going down into the ground.
Yeah.
There's a coal mine you can visit
in the science and industry.
It is.
I've been there not that long ago,
maybe five years ago,
and it's so much better than it was
when I was a kid,
but it was a fucking horror.
The last time I went,
I used to go there every year
to see the Christmas exhibit
because they do Christmas
around the world. That's cool. And so they have a bunch of different trees that are probably not I went, I used to go there every year to see the Christmas exhibit because they do Christmas around
the world. And so they have a bunch of different trees that are probably not trees that people put
up, but they make a tree for every country. And so you walk around and you look at all that. And so
it's a cool little thing to walk around and just see a bunch of Christmas trees. And I like
Christmas. I'm a fucking avid Christmas schmuck. I love Christmas. I love all things Christmas.
So for me, it was a lot of fun to do every year.
And I got a chance to walk around there.
After you see that exhibit, there's other things to see.
And they had a global warming exhibit the last time I was there.
They had an ice sheet melting exhibit.
You know what I mean?
Like, so there is some-
I think it's gotten way better.
It's gotten better.
It's gotten way better.
But back when I was a kid, it was just like, hey some coal i know man it was like eat some coal dude it was
like join the navy here's a boat yeah exactly the submarine submarine yeah they had a big submarine
you could go into and that was just like an advertisement for the military then they had like
a bunch of coal and coal related products they were like and they had like signs bunch of coal and coal related products. They were like, and they had like signs like Exxon coal,
like all over.
It was like branded.
It was the crassest fucking thing.
And he calls that shit out.
Yeah.
And I was glad.
And even though I felt called out for my childhood in that moment in my city,
like I remember,
I remember as a,
as a late teens,
early twenties going to the museum of Science History and thinking that.
Like, fuck, man, I'm in a commercial.
And I've been in a commercial my whole fucking life
and I didn't know it.
And there's a difference between
using museums or schools to indoctrinate kids
and using those museums and schools
to give kids that sense of wonder
and the tools to manipulate
what they need to manipulate in
order to feel like a part of something and like they can engage and interact.
Yeah.
And those two things are light years apart.
And I read that Ithaca example, and I will admit, I thought, man, that's a great fucking
story.
But it is a story of such a privileged neighborhood.
Sure.
You know, where you can go to the citizens and they can donate money of their own because they have local monies. And I thought,
man, how much do we need that in the West side of Chicago and in Philly and in like, you know,
Compton and like, you know. In the rural America. Yes. Yeah, that too. Yeah. And the, yeah, I feel
like every time I've ever gone to some of those
things, especially in, in Chicago, they were like busted too. So like it wouldn't work. So
imagine a kid, you get dragged to museum and as, as a field trip, and now you're at this place where
nothing is working and you know, like, like those types of things, if it's not bright and beautiful and interesting,
you're going to lose those kids.
They're going to have a bad memory of that day.
You know what I mean?
I just came back from a science museum in Boston.
Boston is a science museum.
And it was a cool museum.
It was really neat.
They have these, they have these,
and he, Carl mentions this IMAX in the, specifically because IMAX was a newish technology back then.
And they had this IMAX like 180 degree screen that comes around and you have to lean back and look at it.
And it was underground caves and the stuff that's in those caves.
And they're basically measuring stalactites to figure out global warming and whatnot.
And this woman literally dives in these caves.
She's a climate scientist,
but she dives in these caves,
these tight ass caves with scuba gear
to get underneath and into this area
where she can pull pieces of stalagmites
or stalactites off the top to try to take them out.
And then she analyzes them
and she has to hire like professional divers,
but it was a beautiful thing to watch.
Like it was just gorgeous.
You're immersed.
You're a hundred percent immersed in this,
in this like new reality.
And that's just one thing that I saw.
They had multiple showings.
So it's a lot of the sort of,
instead of a boring film strip thing,
you get a chance to really see some high
production value science films. And then you get, you know, you walk around throughout the entire
place and there's all these different, you know, like cutaway sections and all kinds of stuff to
like look at and stuff to touch. They had an electricity, this electricity thing they had
there at the science museum was really intense. There was things that you could do, like spin things to make, you know, electricity appear.
There was certain things that you could touch. You could hear electricity. If you, if you waited
for something to charge and then you press it, you could hear the snap of it. And so like,
there's a lot of like, you know, just like how church gets you to come back using all the five
senses, they're doing multi-sensory stuff to get you to realize this is some cool
learning opportunities happening here. And then they had like study rooms and all kinds.
It was a really cool place in Boston. It was the only time I went. I was only there for like three
hours, but it was a really cool place and something I think a lot of people could model
to make that science feel more interesting to students. And there's some comments in here
where they're talking about, you can see that there's parents that were pushing back on science
education, how useful science education is, pushing back. And you're hearing, even back then,
you were hearing that Christian right stuff, Yep. The anti-science Christian right. Yep.
And the teachers that were writing were really like bemoaning the whole issue.
They're just like,
God fucking,
we're out here trying.
Yeah.
But holy shit.
And how,
if you're a teacher trying to teach science and the community is not supportive of that effort.
Yeah.
Because we haven't done a good job culturally.
Yeah.
Of explaining that science is not,
it's the same reason you teach history wrong.
Don't teach it as a series of shit to memorize.
Teach it as a museum.
It is an experience.
It is the world around us.
It is the reason this microphone works
and that airplane flies and all.
Like if we can't grab kids that way,
then by the time they make it to that teacher,
they're lost.
Their job is a thousand fold harder.
Yeah.
It was interesting though to see the reactions to this
because the reactions are sort of,
they're a mosquito in amber 25 years ago.
Right.
And you get a chance to see these reactions.
And it's interesting to see how closely
they're still related to a lot of the same beef
that many people still have,
especially in the religious side with science.
Yeah, it's a good point, you know,
because like those kids that were like poo-pooing,
wrote in, were like, that's all bullshit, doesn't matter.
They're now grown up and in charge
and not getting vaccinated.
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And so he searched for it and he couldn't find it because it's not out yet.
It's not out yet, guys. It's not out yet. It won't be out
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The title is going to be The Grand
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Yeah.
You're supposed to figure that part out.
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That's a little reminder.
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Anyway, I got a message from Cheryl
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We talked a couple weeks ago
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It looks like for serious crimes,
they have to be unanimous now.
There was two states,
but now it's since April of last year
or what is now,
I guess,
this year, early this year.
Still this year, because I'm still,
this will release before New Year's.
So yeah, so this year, April of 21,
is when that got changed.
So it was recent, very recent when that got changed.
And that's a fact check for me
because I think I brought that topic up.
So I was aware that a couple of states didn't require it.
I was not aware of the April Supreme Court decision.
They changed it.
So yeah, thank you for that correction.
Fucking good, by the way.
Yeah, good.
Oh, good.
Jesus.
Jesus, could you imagine?
You get like fucking some,
it's like a fucking half of them or something.
Right.
You're just like, eh.
We got a message from Richard and he said,
I know you guys are interested
in maybe going to the Large Hadron Collider,
but did you know that there's a couple of large,
this one's a synchrotron
called the Advanced Photon Source at Argonne
National Laboratory here,
which is by Chicago.
There's also Fermilab nearby.
Either one would be a fun place to tour just to see.
Did you ever go to one for school?
No.
I went to Fermilab at a field trip for school and I don't remember it at all.
I just remember that I went actually,
that's all I remember of it,
but I don't even remember.
I don't even be honest.
I don't even know what kind of work they do.
I don't either.
And that's the thing is like,
I'd love to learn about what they're doing.
It's probably so like,
like deep physics like that is probably so far above what you could sort of
just probably quickly tell someone.
Absolutely.
I wonder if there's anything that they could even tell me
that they're doing that would be,
that I would be able to grasp.
They would have to dumb it down to a point
where they're just like 30,000 feet.
And in their mind, they're just like,
we do so much more than what I'm telling you.
Yeah, it's just, it's so much different.
It's like showing up to like a, you know,
a kitchen for a world famous chef.
And they're just like, yeah, we make food.
Yeah, we just do food here.
You're right.
I bet you they're probably right.
We assemble ingredients and use heat to create food for a meal experience.
You're like, oh, okay.
I understand that.
I know food.
Right.
Yeah.
I love physics shows like on TV, like especially astrophysics.
I'll watch almost anything if it's astrophysics based.
If there's anything at all about the universe,
about, and anything whatsoever about planetary planets
or stars or anything, I'll watch it.
I love it.
I devour it.
I love it.
And I also like physics.
I also like learning about physics.
I just don't know that I like
have a very deep understanding of it at all.
I might have watched
a thousand hours of stuff on
astrophysics.
I just don't think I still have a deep understanding
of it to the extent
that I could understand probably what they're doing there.
I know I couldn't. I took physics in college
a couple of classes. I took three physics
classes in college.
But there's no way I'd understand it. It's like
that shit skims the top of the
first level of the surface.
Any undergrad class is really just an
introduction to the thought of introducing things.
Yeah, exactly.
Tom, we didn't talk about this on the show, but
we actually got a message. I kind of wish
we could have got this person. It came to
us too late. There was a media
contact that they sent out karen
at the satanic temple this is so great the media contact and i guess they're from the satanic temple
um uh which is i guess in salem and they had so at our our capital rotunda has these uh has like
a display of you know like a fucking manger or whatever. And they sent their fucking goat baby manger out here.
It's so great.
And it's the fucking best, man.
The goat baby manger.
You have to look this up.
It's fucking terrifying.
It's so amazing.
It's the best.
It's so amazing.
It is amazing.
It is such a fucking slap in the face
to people who want to push their religion down your throats.
It's fucking beautiful, man. I really wish we could have reached out to this person before.
You know what? We might actually be able to reach out to him afterwards and talk to him.
I thought we still could.
I think we probably can. We'll see if we can maybe make this work. But this is from like
Lucian Greaves desk or whatever. But the person that they're saying, the media contact is a person
named Karen. So maybe we'll reach out to her and see if we can maybe get them on the show.
Because I would love to talk about this fucking goat baby.
It's my fucking, it's so num num.
It's amazing.
And it's right here in town.
Oh, it's so amazing.
It's right here in Illinois.
It's in Illinois.
They did the holding of the hands.
They did a circle around it.
They did like a ring around the rosy of the fucking goat baby.
It's so great.
It's fucking outstanding.
You guys, look at a picture of this fucking thing.
It's fucking so creepy.
And it's in our rotunda right now in Springfield.
It's like fucking Pan's Labyrinth.
It is so scary looking.
I love it.
Oh, I love it.
We got a message,
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And yes, we were going to be doing physical copies
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of at Amazon and it's getting ready to be published because we have to order it from them because
we're not ordering sets of books and then sending them out. Amazon's going to do all that work for
us. We're just going to order, we'll order several to get shipped to us and then we'll sign them and ship them to you.
So, but we will do that in the future and we'll let you know what that looks like and how that's
going to work itself out. And if you don't want that, you can mail us your Kindle and I will sign
it with a Sharpie, your Kindle. Absolutely. I will grind in there with a grinder so you can't
read anything ever again. I got a correction last with a grinder so you can't read anything ever
again. I got a correction last week. Michael sent in a message and said that Santa is not read due
to Coca-Cola marketing. I had said that very quickly as an aside on our show when we were
quoting the Bishop. I had said something like he's not wrong, but it looks like that he was
just publicized, but he was already read. It was read for years
before Coca-Cola ever.
And he was also a popular figure in
many cultures before Coca-Cola
ever used him in advertising. I read
the Snopes that you sent along, so it looks like
it basically debunks a lot of things about
Santa. Yeah, the next thing you're going to tell me is that
polar bears don't drink Coca-Cola.
Now that's fucking blasphemy.
You should have a goat baby that drinks Coca-Cola. Now that's fucking blasphemy. That's ridiculous. You should have a goat baby.
That's all I'm saying.
That drinks Coca-Cola.
I love it so much.
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