Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 619: Our Book Launch

Episode Date: March 7, 2022

OUR BOOK IS OUT AND AVAILABLE     AUDIOBOOK (is gonna be out on monday which is now - ill add a link. i swear IM WORKING ON IT!!! i should probably delete this part and just leave a link) Show Note...s

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today's show is brought to you by The Book, the grand unified theory of bullshit, available now, and so is The Audiobook. Look for the link, it's there. And also, AdamandEve.com, when you use code GLORY, you get 50% off on both any one item, plus free shipping, plus a bunch of free gifts. And by PaintYourLife.com, text the word COGNITIVE to 64000 for 20% off your first order. Buy The Book in The Audiobook. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. Recording live from Glory Hill Studios in Chicago and beyond, this is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way.
Starting point is 00:01:04 We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence. Too many topics that makes the news makes it big or makes us mad. It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no welcome at. This is episode
Starting point is 00:01:19 619 of Cognitive Dissonance and Cecil. Yeah. Big news for the show. Look, I know that World War III is right. Like,
Starting point is 00:01:34 like I want to acknowledge. I'm glad. I'm glad. I want to acknowledge. I'm glad you at least are acknowledging that. Priorities. That there is a right now fucking human rights violation. I know. What do they call those? What do they call I know. What do they call those?
Starting point is 00:01:45 What do they call those? War crimes? War crimes. I know that the world has erupted into a chaotic maelstrom of anarchy and bloodshed. I know.
Starting point is 00:01:56 And let's take a second and recognize that. And know that. Okay. But our book is out! What do you want me to do? I know! We spent a year
Starting point is 00:02:07 working on it. You can't not. When were we going to time this better in this chaotic nonsense? It's so hard to like talk about other stuff and be smiling
Starting point is 00:02:16 about your book. I know! I know! We're in a crazy place where it's like, well, I'll just wait for the next tragedy. I know, right?
Starting point is 00:02:25 You're just stuck between two tragedies. We thought it would be a good time to really, actually, we didn't do any of that. We just literally just finished it.
Starting point is 00:02:32 It finished when it finished. It's like I, it's like me. I finish when I finish. But I will say this. We are so excited for this book. So the paperback is out.
Starting point is 00:02:44 There's a link on this week's show notes. You can go right now and buy the paperback. The Kindle is out. So you can go get the Kindle as well. Now, both of those are through Amazon. Right now, the audio book is 100% recorded. We have a forward, Reverend Michael Marshall. We have
Starting point is 00:02:58 an introduction by, we have a pardon me, a preface by me. And then the rest of the book is read by Tom with little pieces. I read some pieces where in the book, you would see it in text where I, there's sort of a note by one of us to say something where we're teaming up writing it, but there's a point in our life
Starting point is 00:03:15 where it doesn't make sense for the two of us to say something together. So it would say like Cecil's note or Tom's note. And I came in and read all the ones that say Cecil's note throughout the book. There are very few, but I did read them. So the book is done though. It's 100% audiobooks done.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Audio book is ready, guys. Now we're going to send it off to a place to get, to make it so that the apps are available for people to download. But we're not going to put it on Audible. So don't look for it on Audible because it won't be on Audible. Audible takes like 70% of the money
Starting point is 00:03:45 and, you know, we put a lot of time into this. We put a lot of time into this and you can't sell an audiobook for, you know, a ton of money. I mean, like the most you could sell it for is like, we're going to be selling it probably on these major platforms for like $20. We are
Starting point is 00:04:02 going to be selling the audiobook from our site at $15. That's what we think it's going to be selling the audio, the audio book from our site at $15. That's what we think. It's going to be $15 or $16, $15.99 or $15.
Starting point is 00:04:12 We haven't set it up yet, but we are sure it's going to be ready by Monday morning. So the audio book will be able to be downloaded. So you should go to our site and look for it now.
Starting point is 00:04:20 That's what you're saying. Yeah. So, because that's when they're hearing this. They're listening on Monday. Guys, it's Monday. Yeah, you should go.
Starting point is 00:04:25 And here's the thing. The only reason it wouldn't be there is if Ian didn't do his job. Didn't do his job. Okay, so I'm going to give a short pause
Starting point is 00:04:35 for Ian to break in here and tell you whether or not he did his job. I'm mastering it right now, so I got to get back to it. It better be there, Ian. If it's not there, Ian, you're committed. We're going to send a get back to it. I better be there again. If it's not there,
Starting point is 00:04:45 Ian, you're committed. We're going to send a pink slip to Ian. I'm going to send two fucking guys with baseball bats and a bad attitude. I got it.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I'll get back to it. I'm sorry. Now, when you buy this from our site, you're just going to have to figure out, we're going to have some ideas on how you can listen to it,
Starting point is 00:05:00 but it's mostly just going to be a downloadable MP3. You're just going to get a downloadable MP3 and then you can put it on your phone, but you're going to have to be able to import it and all that stuff. You're going to have to know how to use your phone well enough without an app to sort of figure all that out. That being said, the audio book is money. I added the audio book and the audio book is spot on. Awesome. Tom read every piece of this and it
Starting point is 00:05:22 sounds excellent. It really does. Tom nailed it. It sounds excellent. I listened to the whole thing. I did all the editing. So there's probably a mistake. If you see a mistake, if you hear a mistake, send me a message and I'll upload a new file. If you hear a mistake, a wizard did that. Yeah. If you hear a mistake, Ian did it. God damn it, Ian. So the book is now out. Now, I know a lot of people are probably wondering, well, what's your book about? What is it? You know, look,
Starting point is 00:05:46 you're trying to sell me a book, but you didn't tell me what it's about. Well, the book is called The Grand Unified Theory of Bullshit. And the conceit is pretty simple. There's a lot of books that Tom and I have both read
Starting point is 00:05:57 throughout the years. And these books are all very, you know, believing in UFOs is bad. And here's why. Here's sort of the logical reasons why you shouldn't and people do.
Starting point is 00:06:08 And you should, here's how you take that sort of thing apart. And there's a lot of books that do that where they tell you, here's a bunch of pseudoscience and this pseudoscience
Starting point is 00:06:17 is bad to believe in because here's all the bad thinking that goes into that pseudoscience and don't think it. But there's never really, at least I'd never come across a book that tells you why we believe this stuff. Like, why do I believe, why do I fall for this particular brand of woo? Why is it that I fall for it? And, you know, when you think about atheists, for instance, you can be an atheist and still believe
Starting point is 00:06:42 in aliens. You can be an atheist and still believe in ghosts even because you don't necessarily believe in a God, but you might think that spirits continue on after you're dead. You can be an atheist and you can believe in all kinds of medical woo. You can be an atheist. So the idea is to be more skeptical in your worldview by connecting all these practices throughout all these different types of woo and specifically telling you why we fall for it. Why do we fall for it? And then when we get to the end of the book, one of the major things that we're talking about is,
Starting point is 00:07:14 okay, so we fall for it. We realize that we're emotional thinkers a lot of time and that's why we think about it. How do we fix it? Yeah. And it's not a how we fix it. We didn't write a book on how to tell somebody how to fix it. No. We wrote a book on how you can fix it. And it's not how we fix it. We didn't write a book on how to tell somebody how to fix it. We wrote a book on how you can fix it for yourself. That's the main thrust. Yeah. There is a commonality of theme for bullshit. All bullshit kind of smells the same.
Starting point is 00:07:37 It doesn't matter what cow plopped out of it. All kind of smells the same. And once you learn to recognize why bullshit appeals to us, then you can begin to build a toolkit and some armor to defend yourself against the urge that we all naturally have to believe in bullshit. And once you see that it all smells the same, it's easier to identify other bullshit because you smell it a mile away.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And it's easier to scrape it off your shoe. It is. You know, that's the other thing too, is like if you are an atheist and you still kind of might believe in aliens, you might realize, oh, maybe I believe in aliens for the same reason other people believe in God.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Right. And I can shed that belief and get rid of it. And so that's what the main thrust of the book is. There's a lot of the book we spend, Tom and I spent a ton of time researching the harm on what these things cause, because we both figured if we didn't explain all the harm that goes into these beliefs, there's no, I mean, there is a reason if you, and knowing true things is important. There's an intellectual reason, but like what impact does that have on the rest of your life? If you never act on any of this stuff
Starting point is 00:08:45 and it also really never hurts anyone, what's the big deal? Right. And so we did spend a lot of time researching and planning and thinking about how does this stuff hurt you? So a lot of the book is a recap of how this bullshit can hurt you.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And probably one of the best chapters, I think, is the chapter on paranormal because that's one that's gotten a pass for so long. It's gotten a pass from so many different people. It kind of gets a pass as being kitschy. Yeah, and there's a lot of harm in there, and they do a lot of sneaky things when they report on it, and pulling all that stuff out and weaving that together,
Starting point is 00:09:23 I think it took a lot of time, but it was worthwhile. And we think the final book is really worthwhile. We think it's one of those books that if you get it, you'll read it. It's definitely preaching to the choir. You'll probably agree with a lot of this stuff, but you'll hopefully catch yourself in those moments and do what we call a grand unified theory check,
Starting point is 00:09:42 a gut check, and pay attention to your emotion, the emotional, the emotionality that is getting you to think in that way. And so we hope it's one of those books that you use as sort of a, a thing you read, and then you use this toolkit for the rest of your life. Yep. So we're,
Starting point is 00:09:58 we were aiming high. We are, but I think I, I, I gotta tell you guys, I, we're, we're both really proud of the end product.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Yeah. And we think that this audience would be particularly, I just think you'd like it. You'd enjoy it. You'd get a kick out of it. I think there's stuff in there that would be genuinely useful for you. We certainly tried to put something together. We think it's funny at times,
Starting point is 00:10:20 and we think it's pretty serious at times, and it kind of walks that line. So I don't know. You guys should just listen to it. Yeah. Or buy it. Or buy it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah. It's got to consume it somehow. We think it's going to be pretty great. So check our website. There's ways to buy it. You can go check on Amazon if you want to get paper copies or the Kindle copy.
Starting point is 00:10:41 The audio book, like we said, will be on our website. We are also going to be having, we hope it's ready by Monday. We're going to have a form. If you bought the book and you want to get a signed bookmark, we have signed Grand Unified Theory bookmarks. We will send you a bookmark. And that goes for the audio book too.
Starting point is 00:11:02 If you bought the audio book and you want a bookmark, send us a message with a copy. Basically, you'll have a form that you fill out and then you can upload an image of your receipt of you buying it. And then we will send you a bookmark in the mail. Now the bookmark is going to come when you do send us this stuff,
Starting point is 00:11:18 we will send you back a PayPal link because we have to buy all the things that we need to do to send this to you. So we had to buy the envelopes. We had to hire someone to make it and then do all the work to get the bookmark done. And we're going to have to do, we're going to have to pay someone
Starting point is 00:11:33 to actually do the work to collate all this stuff. So it's going to be a $5 bookmark. But that's the only way that we could figure out a way to get you something signed on this particular, because people were asking for signed copies of the book and it's just so hard to do. So we, we settled on the bookmark thing. We'd love it if you, we would love for people to reach out, you know, show us a copy of the book and we, and then we will send you a PayPal link for $5 payment. And once you pay it, we will ship one out to you right away.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Should we give them a little taste of the book, Cecil? Yeah. I'm going to play. You want to give them a little taste of the book, Cecil? Yeah, I'm going to play. Want to give them a little something, a little teaser? I'll play a little five minutes or so of this book right now. So I'm going to play a piece of the introduction and then I will, like I say, I'm not going to play the whole thing, but I'll play a little bit of the introduction. This episode's eight hours long. This episode, even in the introductions long. So it's like 30 plus minutes. So I'm just going to play like five minutes, the first five minutes or so of the introduction and I'll end at a paragraph. So here's Tom reading our book, The Grand Unified Theory of Bullshit, the introduction.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Believing untrue things can manipulate us into unfounded action. It allows people to shirk responsibility and can lead us to repeat misguided endeavors. When we build understanding on untrue things, we are constructing our thoughts and actions on a poor foundation, and anything built on a poor foundation is necessarily faulty and likely to crumble. But a strong intellectual foundation is not a given. In fact, our brains love to trick us, and it is a constant struggle to fight against our lesser nature that tells us to believe dangerous and silly things without evidence. These types of beliefs are hard to avoid because they're somewhat emotional. We want to believe them, we are invested in them, and we are therefore easier to convince.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Our thoughts also need sustained attention to avoid falling into the traps set by agents that want to change our minds and alter our behaviors. Many of these tactics and thought traps are common across all kinds of paranormal, supernatural, and conspiratorial thinking. all kinds of paranormal, supernatural, and conspiratorial thinking. Once you spot them in one area, you can easily spot the same methods and lines of thinking in another. Just as you prune a tree to encourage it to grow in the way you want, you need tools to help your thought process be as sturdy as it can be. Below are a few common ways that we trick ourselves and ways that other people trick us into believing that something false is true. Motivated reasoning is probably the greatest hurdle when it comes to believing in nonsense. Motivated reasoning means, quite simply, wanting to believe something.
Starting point is 00:14:21 By its very nature, this kind of thinking is emotionally satisfying, so using logic to combat it might not be effective at all. It is also us tricking ourselves. We naturally trust ourselves, so when we are the ones doing the deceiving, motivated reasoning is a way for the nonsense to make it past any external guards or barriers we have set up. nonsense to make it past any external guards or barriers we have set up. No one can convince you of things more effectively than you can convince yourself. And the topics in this book are no exception. People believe in alternative medicine first and foremost because they want it to be true. We want a less painful, easier to understand treatment that is guaranteed to work. We believe in religion because we want something wonderful to happen after we die, or we want
Starting point is 00:15:11 some outside, omniscient force to be subtly, and in many cases, even not so subtly, controlling our lives. We want Jesus to take the wheel. So many of us want to believe in ghosts and aliens. We want the world to contain fascinating mysteries, and we want to uncover them. We want to live in a universe where we aren't alone and in which we can communicate with dead loved ones. We want a conspiracy that paints the political opposition as monsters, so it's easier to discount anything that opposition says. A cognitive bias that goes hand-in-hand with motivated reasoning is called confirmation bias.
Starting point is 00:15:52 This is the process that allows us to discount or dismiss data that would weaken a position. It also puts undue value on data that reinforces our favored position. Whenever we encounter information about a topic that we are motivated to have a stance on, we will place less value on information that weakens our viewpoint and more value on information that strengthens it. Take, for instance, a political stance. If you are a Republican
Starting point is 00:16:22 and think that Republicans are better at governance, you might reason that the times when they are less effective are less important. You may also not place as much importance on any Republican misdeeds while placing a great deal of importance on another party's misdeeds. Most of us know this as partisan politics, and it permeates our political landscape today. as partisan politics, and it permeates our political landscape today. These two cognitive traps, when working in conjunction, create a very difficult obstacle to overcome when trying to convince someone that what they believe is incorrect or that there is a lack of evidence supporting it. These traps reach across all spectrums of supernatural, paranormal, and conspiratorial thought and are the bedrock of poor reasoning on which all these subjects are built pork chop sandwiches oh shit get the
Starting point is 00:17:16 fuck out of here what are you doing go get the fuck out of here you stupid idiot. Fuck, we're all dead. Get the fuck out. So this story comes from Rolling Stone. Candace Owens is mad girls aren't being taught to make their future husbands a sandwich. And 13 other crazy CPAC moments you missed. CPAC, Cecil. Hold on, before you start, Tom, can you just describe what you see here? Okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:17:42 So there's a picture. There's a picture at the top of this article. image is rambo sliced alone that's that's rambo's body it's not all of rambo no it's not there's a piece that's not rambo it's rambo's body from the 1980s yeah oh yeah from from seriously like yeah rambo three when he was juiced up and ready to go that dude is like three and a half feet tall and like three and a half feet wide but he was juiced up and ready to go. That dude is like three and a half feet tall and like three and a half feet wide. But he was juiced to the fucking gills. Jesus. And he was,
Starting point is 00:18:08 and you can just look at his arms and he was like, Jesus Christ. He was ready to fight. Yeah. And imposed where Sly's head would be is Trump's ugly, stupid fucking face. His giant fucking roast face.
Starting point is 00:18:22 With a bandana on. Yes. As if truck. I love that they turn they cause they've done this so many times. They turn this fucking fat, unwieldy septuagenarian with fucking dentures and fucking weird hair. And they turn them into a photoshopped warrior. And I think every time it's perfect because it is a fake warrior.
Starting point is 00:18:47 It's exactly right. He can't even stand. When you look at him stand, he stands all weird. His back is all arched and he's, he's looked so weird. He needs a fucking both hands to drink a glass of water. He's so,
Starting point is 00:18:59 and he's so like, like he's not, they do this thing where it'd be like if everybody on our side put Nancy Pelosi's body, like head on a supermodel's frame. Right. It would be that weird. So we could like weirdly idolize them.
Starting point is 00:19:15 It would be that weird, right? If you took Nancy Pelosi's 80 year old head and you cut it off at a Photoshop. It really does look super weird. And you put it on like a young Selma really does look super weird. And you put it on like a young Selma Hayek. Right. And you'd be like,
Starting point is 00:19:29 um. Okay, I might need a minute with that. That is super weird. I feel something right now. That is super weird. Super duper extra special weird.
Starting point is 00:19:37 The whole idea of like literally creating an idol for these CPAC. It's so crazy. For fucking CPAC? And CPAC is the crazy, this whole article is just pouring with crazy, Tom.
Starting point is 00:19:51 It's a bar, we just have to read chunks. We just have to fucking read big chunks of it. So the McCloskey couple from the Missouri protest where they pointed guns at BLM protesters were handing out photos of the incident as like mementos and advertisements for her husband's Senate campaign. Oh, good Lord. And there's a tweet that's linked in there with those two idiots standing there with their, with their striped shirt. She looks like the fucking Hamburglar. What I love about this is not only was it an atrocious racist moment, right?
Starting point is 00:20:30 But also, it's a bad picture of you guys. You look fucking unattractive in this picture. If I was running for Senate and somebody took my fucking picture and I was like, holy shit, that's not a good angle. I wouldn't be out there like selling it because one time I did an infamous thing at a bad angle. It's literally the only thing they're famous for. Right. It's the only thing you're famous for is a bad thing.
Starting point is 00:20:51 It's why those people welcome Kyle Rittenhouse with open arms. Oh, I know, right. You know, it's the same thing. Yeah, well, you know what it is, is because they don't give a shit about anything but their symbols. Yeah. These people are fucking symbols.
Starting point is 00:21:03 You're right. Mike Lindell spoke on a small stage. I love this too. As quoted in Rolling Stone, he rambled into a microphone. I love the way they phrased that rather than he gave a speech. It is so amazing.
Starting point is 00:21:18 It is so amazing. Where is it? Oh, there it is. And he was so loud that the sound system was peaking and you could hardly hear anything. I'm going to play a little piece of this for you guys. It's only 15 seconds long. Let me play it. This is the perfect audio for him. You literally can't hear a thing he's saying.
Starting point is 00:21:49 It sounds like the echo-iest room you've ever heard in your entire life. And it sounds like Ian miked it. It's the worst. It's the worst. This is what he always sounds like to me, though. Oh, God. It just always sounds just fucking indistinguishable gibberish. Doesn't he sound like fucking Charlie Brown's mom?
Starting point is 00:22:04 He does. He sounds like... Fucking 100% sounds like that. Oh my God. It's so good. God, it's so great. I love it. According to a video posted by an attendee,
Starting point is 00:22:15 folks with access to the VIP room were treated to a complimentary McDonald's buffet before Trump's speech. People paid $7,000 for gold level VIP tickets. Silver tickets were $3,000. Both levels sold out for fucking hamburgers. Patreon goal.
Starting point is 00:22:36 The level is $7,000. $7,000. And I will have McDonald's with you. Are you serious? Are you serious, dude? These people are that hard up to meet. And I guarantee you didn't even meet them.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Oh, no. I guarantee they didn't meet them either. But also, like, this is, I think, very clearly in reference to what they think was like a cool moment when Trump shut down the fucking government. Yeah. And then he didn't the fucking government. Yeah. And then- He didn't have a chef. Right. And then he had to get hamburgers.
Starting point is 00:23:11 And he got the hamburgers. For a bunch of athletes that he was supposed to have at the White House. And that was a disgraceful moment. Yeah, but they think it was a banner moment. Right. Yeah. It's like the Photoshop thing.
Starting point is 00:23:23 It's like you guys can't see past yourselves. It's insane. This is insane. Right. Yeah. That's it's like the Photoshop thing. It's like, you guys can't see past yourselves. It's insane. This is insane. It's insane. One speaker, an AM radio host from Memphis, Tennessee started his speech with some comments that were so racist and transphobic.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I thought it had been transported to an episode of the boondocks quote. My personal preferred preferred pronouns are fried chicken and collard greens. He said, he went on to say the mayor of New York calls him a cracker, but he prefers saltine American. What the fuck? Jesus.
Starting point is 00:23:49 What is happening? God, even when you said that, I was getting like this. You get uncomfortable. You start to clench. You're just clenching. You're like, what is wrong with you? It's not funny. It's not funny. All it is is just punching down at a vulnerable group
Starting point is 00:24:04 of people to make yourself feel good. That's literally all. It's bullying. It's bullying. And he chooses two groups at once to bully. And you're like, goddamn, you can't be satisfied to just be racist or just be a transphobe. You have to combine them into some fucking weird peanut butter chocolate racist transphobe moment holy shit he's got a foot that's transphobic he's got a sword that's racist
Starting point is 00:24:32 god damn unbelievable um this is one that i could not uh yeah this one here i just could not outside of cpac on public property what appears to be a group of accelerationist neo-Nazis gathered for a small picket. Conservative commentary site, Red State, weighed in to reassure you that their presence wasn't a big deal. Well, and so I think that they were saying, at least, so I tried to read this Red State article. You can, if you look at the photos, there's a dude, he's a white guy. I'm pretty sure he's a white guy. At least he looks like a white guy in the photo. Now,
Starting point is 00:25:07 maybe, maybe he's, maybe he's a, he's a black guy and he's just covered up well and it, and the shadows on his, on his hand make him look white. Sure. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:16 I don't know, but he looked, he looked white to me and he was covered in all the like Antifa stuff. So these guys look like are covered in like that, that like skull bandana on their mouth and he's got goggles on but he has a burger king crown with the n-word written on it jesus and it's and it looks like a white dude and then they have and then they have these these fucking uh swastika flags the fucking nazi flags and then we're done you can't pretend to be a nazi no you can't pretend you can't pretend it because i'm gonna immediately think you're a nazi but there's what
Starting point is 00:25:51 is the distinct what is the difference right what is it like literally somebody tell me yeah hi if i am if i am like you cannot be like jokingly racist. Yeah. Because any joking racism relies on racism. It's not a joke anymore. You can't do that. That's not how any of this works. And these guys are all, every single one of these guys is all, at least from what I could read,
Starting point is 00:26:15 is that they were trying to say that these guys are just kidding around. For the lols, they're doing it for performative reasons. And you're just like, you can't just show up at a place. It's not funny. Like, it's not funny to just have a Nazi flag.
Starting point is 00:26:29 That's not funny. That's not comedy. Right. It's, and it's like, okay, so it's one of those moments you want to be like, explain to me the joke. Yeah, what's the joke? Tell me the joke part. What is your joke? We've done this thing, and I do have to get off on a little bit of a tangent, though,
Starting point is 00:26:43 because we've done this thing where it's, where we are confusing the idea of comedy. People, people use that as an excuse all the time. Oh, it's just a joke.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And you're like, well, what's the joke? Tell me the fucking joke. And what the reality is, is I'm mocking you. Yeah. Mocking someone isn't a joke.
Starting point is 00:26:59 That's not a joke. Right? Like, like if I write a fucking mean fucking vulgarity for charity thing, then I read it to the person and I stood stood in front of him just fucking read it to them and made them feel bad that's not a joke anymore it's not a joke i just that just means that you hurt somebody just being mean right that's it there's it's like if i punch somebody in the face but then when i'm done punching him
Starting point is 00:27:20 in the face i'm like but i was kidding was kidding. He's kidding. I was on Jackass or whatever. They still got punched. Right. You know? Yeah. What the fuck? What are you talking about? It's a joke. And when you have to hand wave away your Nazis that show up,
Starting point is 00:27:33 you can't hand wave that away. And then the other one that you should definitely read, Tom, is the Kevin Sorbo one. Oh, this is amazing. Kevin Sorbo attended one of the special dinners in a blue suit lined with fabric that prominently featured his own tweets. Can you believe?
Starting point is 00:27:54 And one of those tweets is Bill Gates, the same person who says the world is overpopulated, wants to save your life with a vaccine. Wow, that's a zinger. Really fucking, that's a fucking. There you go. Man, download all of Twitter just Wow, that's a zinger. Really fucking, that's a fucking. There you go. Man, that's, download all of Twitter just to save that. There you go. For future reference.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Boy, there's a thinker. Think about this. Is there, I can't think of anybody more self-absorbed if they create a fucking coat with their own tweets. Their own words. I mean, at that point, you know, K Sorbs is at home fucking jerking off. K Sor off. He's jerking off and he's giving himself a facial and loving it every time. You know what I mean? Like that's it. That's it. That's the level of narcissism we're talking about here is that he's like, he's like, I bukkake myself every day
Starting point is 00:28:38 with my own cum because I love myself that much. Candace Owens said that everything has gone downhill since feminist education in the 1970s began encouraging girls to pursue a career when they grew up instead of focusing solely on supporting their husbands. Schools said to women, don't stay at home. Go be like a man. Go to work.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Why would you want to stay in the kitchen? Don't make him a sandwich. It's weird that Candace Owens has all this free time to speak at a convention when we should be supporting her husband at home. Thank you. Candace Owens has a fucking career. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:10 She has a career. Don't. Women shouldn't have careers. That's what I'm saying. Specifically to appeal to a male audience. How gross is it that there's so many people in the Republican Party that have to deal with that sort of cognitive dissonance
Starting point is 00:29:26 of their own lives, right? Candace Owens is a perfect example of this. She's a brand she sells to. She is 100% a brand, and she is a token in many ways. And she's a happy token to be there. And I'm not trying to be racist, and I know that that can be-
Starting point is 00:29:44 She's a female token. That can be construed, but I'm not trying to be racist. And I know that that can be... She's a female toad. That can be construed. But I'm not trying to be racist against her. I'm just saying, it's not only race, but it's also gender. Oh, absolutely. She is that for them
Starting point is 00:29:56 because she's basically spouting off all the same talking points. But she has a different set of bits than most of them. And she has a different skin color bits than most of them and she has a different skin color. Yeah. Well,
Starting point is 00:30:07 I think what she's done very kind of cleverly is she has monetized their talking points and her tokenism and sold it right back to them. And they're dumb enough to fucking buy it.
Starting point is 00:30:18 There's a part of me that like, I abhor everything Candace Owens does and says and stands for, but there is still a part of me that kind of admires the fucking chutzpah
Starting point is 00:30:26 of just selling back to you your own racism. Right, right. Like, part of me is like, part of me wants to pull her off to the side and be like,
Starting point is 00:30:34 that's fucking, you're fucking doing it. You're grifting them, right? You're fucking grifting these idiots. I would love it at the end of a long career if she just says,
Starting point is 00:30:41 yeah, I've been a liberal the whole time. I just played all you idiots. It would be, if she wasn't doing damage. If she wasn't doing damage. And that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:30:47 And that's the problem. And the other problem too is that she's a rabid anti-vaxxer. And I can't tell you how many of those memes on the Herman Cain Award have her picture on them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:57 So she's a damaging individual. I'm not saying that. Right. So don't get me wrong on that front either that I'm somehow admiring her. She's a terrible, awful person. But the grift she has going is really clever. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:13 Really clever grift. And I think she's very aware of it. I do. I believe she's very aware of that grift. And this is kind of going back to the comments we were making before, Cecil. If she were to come out in five years and be like, I was grifting you, you were still doing damage. You're still doing the wrong thing.
Starting point is 00:31:30 You were still the fucking problem. You're still hurting people. There are still lots of people out there who use what you said to change other people's minds and to reinforce their own worldview. And that worldview is bad. It hurts others. And it hurts people like you. Yes. Right?
Starting point is 00:31:44 It hurts women. It hurts people of color. Yes. It hurts others. And it hurts people like you. Yes. Right? It hurts women. It hurts people of color. It hurts those people. And you hurt vulnerable communities because it made you money. Yep. And that's a despicable, shitty thing to do. That's a fucking awful thing to do. Yeah. But this whole fucking, this whole
Starting point is 00:31:59 escapade down there, you just have to click through this article and just make sure to click every single red link because every single one of them is a treasure. The fucking Let's Go Brandon booth they had. So yeah, check this article out
Starting point is 00:32:13 because it is, the pictures on here are just worth looking at. If you like to people watch, you need to open this article up. CPAC has gotten weirder and weirder. It's like a carnival.
Starting point is 00:32:23 We've been covering it for years. It's like a carnival. It has gotten so much worse. It's like a carnival it has gotten so much worse it's like a carnival it is and then marjorie taylor green oh good lord yeah let's jump into that let's talk about this let me because there's a competing conference yeah right so the competing conference there's cpac and there's afpac yeah and afpac is the fucking white nationalist yeah racist fucking conference that's hosted by Nick Fuentes. Nick Fuentes is the actual fucking worst. And just in case you're like, oh, people throw white nationalists around all the time.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Nick Fuentes is an actual avowed white nationalist. He's a terrible person. Let me play this, Tom. Tom, you posted this in the notes and I just want to play this. This is a minute 32 long. We're going to play Nick talking here.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Now, this is the conference that Marjorie Taylor Greene and another member of Congress spoke at. Yeah, Paul Gosar. So they both went to go speak there. Paul Gosar,
Starting point is 00:33:20 wasn't he the one who was, no, I'm thinking of Gozer the Gozerian. Forget it. And a deadly vaccines enhance the powers of the federal surveillance state let's face it the united states government has become the great satan that many have called it what even is our main export we have our embassies and consulates all across the world. They wave the flag of what? Transsexuals, Black Lives Matter, the gay pride flag.
Starting point is 00:34:11 You know, being an American used to mean something, and now it means all this crap. And it's a shame. You take a look at China. I hear Fox News and conservatives talk all the time about the CHICOMS, the CHICOMSs chinese social credit system have you taken a look at what google and facebook are trying to do social credit system and now they're going on about russia and vladimir putin is hitler and they say that's not a good thing and i shouldn't have said that are you you fucking serious? Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Are you fucking serious, dude? Vladimir Putin. They say he's Hitler. Like, that's not a good thing. Holy shit. So Marjorie Taylor Greene spoke at this place. And even Kevin McCarthy, who's the minority leader in the House, he even came out and said,
Starting point is 00:35:04 holy fuck, don't, I can't believe you did this. Yeah, I mean, she's already been stripped of all of her committee assignments. Yeah, what are you going to do? So short of just booting her ass out of fucking Congress,
Starting point is 00:35:13 which they should do. Yeah. Like she should be kicked the fuck out. 100%. She claims that she showed up to AFPAC not knowing anything about AFPAC because she knew, but somehow she knew
Starting point is 00:35:24 that the demographics skewed younger and she wanted to talk to younger people. And that's nonsense because if you hear what she says at AFPAC, what she says is something she says something like, so many of us in this crowd know what it's like to be cancelled.
Starting point is 00:35:41 So she's done her fucking homework to know who's in that crowd. She tailored a speech specifically knowing who that crowd, she knows what AFPAC is. You don't just accept, see, so we've gone to fucking conferences before. We've at the conference we go to. Sure. Yeah. There was conferences we were invited to that we didn't go to. Yep. Because we looked at the other speakers and we're like, nope. Abso-fucking-l like, nope. Hard fucking pass. Yep. We didn't go to those ones. And there's been a couple of them. It's not just
Starting point is 00:36:08 one. Right. There's been a couple of these conferences. When you're going to speak at something, and these weren't even things that said it would be right. These were just things we were going to go to. We were just going to go to. Yep. Yeah. You don't, as somebody that has some kind of sway or credibility within any community, much less if you're going to be, much more
Starting point is 00:36:24 if you're going to be a fucking speaker, you have a fucking responsibility to do at least a little bit of homework. And if you get it wrong, but you did your homework, fine. You probably didn't get it AFPAC wrong. There's no way. There's no way. Look at fucking Nick Fuentes. He said some of the worst shit you've ever heard. This guy says like he doesn't want to stop until America is a Christian Aryan state. I mean, he is a straight up neo-Nazi. You have people on his side that are saying, never go near
Starting point is 00:36:53 this guy. These are people on Marjorie Taylor Greene's side that are saying, holy shit, I can't believe you went to this conference. Yep. And this is all part, like Nick Fuentes and all the rest of these fuckers are part of some Groypers thing.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Have you heard of the Groypers? No, I hadn't. So it's G-R-O-Y-P-E-R-S. And I just found it when I was reading about this stuff. So what it is, is a bunch of like far right, neo-Nazi, white nationalist internet trolls. Oh, Jesus Christ. Can you think of a fucking less worthwhile group of people in your life?
Starting point is 00:37:30 No, I literally cannot. I cannot. I could not put a sentence together that would be worth less than what you just said. Thank you. Thank you. And they call themselves fucking groipers. And the groipers are like these right-wing internet trolls that are trying to come out of the internet
Starting point is 00:37:47 and make their right-wing politics IRL politics. Are you fucking serious? So these are, this Nick Flentes and his ilk, they are Groypers. They are, these are- No, that fits, it fits. And so is she. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And so is fucking she. That's exactly right, yes, yes. You know what I mean? She is a product of this troll culture yeah her and and bobert they're literally there to be hecklers the other night at the state of the union they're literally there just to heckle yes they they have they have no the there there has been a complete breakdown in in the difference between and then because it was always a false distinction in the difference between real life it was always a false distinction, in the difference between real life decorum
Starting point is 00:38:27 and speech and respect and fucking internet world, right? It was always a false distinction. We always pretended it was real. And all that has happened now is what was always inevitable, which is the poison and toxicity of treating other human beings poorly has become a standard. And now we standard bearer that around
Starting point is 00:38:47 in the actual world face to face. And we used to be scared of each other. And that's why we didn't do it. Yeah. We were afraid of social consequences. It was the social consequences. It was always that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:56 And now we've distilled down this internet hatred and now we get juice from it. Yep. So now when we go out in the real world and we do this sort of thing, these people still get that juice from that internet stuff that they had created a while back.
Starting point is 00:39:08 They sell this twice. Yeah, exactly. The thing is like these motherfuckers sell it twice because they sell it in real life and then they turn around and sell it back to you online. Yep, yep. It's abhorrent.
Starting point is 00:39:17 I can't believe that woman. I mean, I can't believe she's part of the Congress, but, and the worst part is, is that she is a rallying figure on the side. We talked about it two weeks ago, three weeks ago, where you said she's like the second most sought after person to get your endorsement from because they know that it's good. That's the party of trolling. It is the party of trolling if she is your person because she has nothing to offer the world. She is a person who defines herself
Starting point is 00:39:45 for her confrontationalism. Yeah, that's it. That's all it is. Only thing she has. And the thing is that like, if we accept that as part of what we think of as serious discourse, then the results that we get
Starting point is 00:39:57 will be confrontationalist politics. That's all you're going to get. And confrontationalist society. We won't accomplish anything. You can't fucking, you can't solve a single problem with confrontationalist society. We won't accomplish anything. You can't fucking, you can't solve a single problem with confrontationalism. It's a bullshit ideology and it's a cowardly ideology because at the end of the day, it doesn't put anything forward. All it does is just attack. And being on attack all the time is actually so fucking cowardly because you never put anything
Starting point is 00:40:22 vulnerable of your own into the world. And it's all stop. It's stop this, stop this, stop this. You can't be that on the side that is trying to progress. Yep.
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Starting point is 00:44:16 So this story comes from MediaEye. Tucker Carlson slams efforts at censoring Kremlin-backed RT, claims no dissent is allowed. Did you see RT America shut down today? Fucking good. Yeah, it's RT American closed its doors today and they laid everybody off. All the workers got laid off. Now, I did not verify this. So I want to tell it like right off the bat,
Starting point is 00:44:37 but there's a blogger that I follow that I respect quite a lot. Her name is Heather Cox Richardson. And I generally respect what she does and says, and she seems very well-researched. She posted something the other day that I saw. And again, I haven't verified it, but that since all these Russian fucking trolls,
Starting point is 00:44:56 bots, and news stations have come down, the amount of like- Disinformation. Disinformation and rabid right-wing bullshit on Twitter has dramatically decreased, which only goes to prove what we have been talking about for fucking years, which is that this is all propaganda
Starting point is 00:45:13 from the information war that has been successfully waged by Russia. People on Reddit, I follow Reddit and I follow the comment section because I do read comments a lot. And there's been a lot less of those comments too. They've noticed it on Reddit too. The people on Reddit have noticed
Starting point is 00:45:30 that there's been less of those comments because those comments will come in on the top comments and then they'll start getting upvoted by these bots. Right. But there's been less of it. And RT America shut down. Today, I saw it on Reddit. I wasn't able to verify it,
Starting point is 00:45:45 but I saw the link on Reddit to a news site. So I know it was a news site that recorded it. But yeah, so today. Fucking good. Yeah, I mean. Fucking good. I don't understand how the fuck they were here anyway. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:45:59 We have been. You were just like, no, it's cool. Yeah, come on in. Yeah. You pour the poison in my ear. It's cool. I know, right? You know like during during every major world war like we flew leaflets and you drop leaflets in a propaganda war right so you drop leaflets over the enemy line and to try to you know propagandize them yeah what's insane is that now rather than dropping leaflets they're
Starting point is 00:46:22 opening up they're they're renting and leasing space and selling their fucking propaganda to us using our own systems. And we're only now turning around and saying, what I hope, Cecil, is that we never let them back on. Just like with Trump. Never. Just like with Trump, right? You saw what happened there and you're just like, no, that's done. You're done now. If they fucking pulled out of Ukraine tomorrow, I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:46:46 Yeah. Never let that fucking propaganda farm. There's too much money. Too much money there. And that, and that stuff gets clicks. And, and I don't think that the people who own this and want to monetize your eyeballs care enough about the world. No.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And you know, these are oligarchs. Yes. These are oligarchs. They are. So, you know, they, they don't give a Yes, they are. These are oligarchs. They are. So, you know, they don't give a fuck about anything except for how much fucking money they're going to make. Now, Tucker was, he was very
Starting point is 00:47:13 upset about this because people were attacking RT and basically attacking all these Kremlin-based news organizations. And so he was pissed off about it. And so he said as much. And he has been backing Putin since the beginning. But I want to play this clip. This clip was edited by someone who went out of their way to play pieces of him basically arguing with himself four days apart. So I will try to tell you what the screen says when it plays. So here we go. So this is Monday,
Starting point is 00:47:43 February 28th. Greer began by pointing out that Russia has obviously earned our contempt. Okay, so four days before. Democrats in Washington have told you you have a patriotic duty to hate Vladimir Putin. This is again going back to the 28th. Most Americans now despise Vladimir Putin, and that's understandable. Four days before. Conflict in Eastern Europe. Before that happens, it might be worth asking yourself, since it is getting pretty serious. What is this really about? Why do I hate Putin so much? Has Putin ever called me a racist?
Starting point is 00:48:14 Has he threatened to get me fired for disagreeing with him? Has he shipped every middle class job in my town to Russia? Did he manufacture a worldwide pandemic that wrecked my business and kept me indoors for two years? Is he teaching my children to embrace racial discrimination? Is he making fentanyl? Is he trying to snuff out Christianity? Does he eat dogs? These are fair questions, and the answer to all of them is no. Monday, February 28th. Most Americans now despise Vladimir Putin. That's understandable. They're outraged. Most Americans now despise Vladimir Putin.
Starting point is 00:48:42 That's understandable. They're outraged. So a massive about face. Yeah. With no recognition of the about face. In four days. Like the thing is that I saw this and I wanted to point this out. It is okay for honest people to have a change of heart.
Starting point is 00:49:02 100% agree. You can be wrong. I've been wrong. Yes. Like I've been wrong about important things. Me too. And I have come around on things and thought more deeply and been educated about things. And then when you do that, all of a sudden your messaging does change.
Starting point is 00:49:19 It has to. But it changes when you do this. You know, it turns out I was wrong. Yeah. And here's what I learned. Yeah. And here's how I learned it was wrong. Yeah. And here's what I learned. Yeah. And here's how I learned it. Those are some. And here's what swayed me. That's some of the hardest things that you can do in your life. Yes. It really is a hard thing to admit your fault and your weakness and your incorrectness. Yeah. It's very hard to do. And I think it takes a lot of courage to do that. It takes a lot of courage to look at yourself
Starting point is 00:49:47 and want to change. Yeah. To want to change who you are and to want to change yourself for the better. I got evidence. This evidence makes me think something different. I had all my life thought about this way. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:00 I had thought about it this way because maybe I had bad notions. Maybe sometimes that stuff is racist or whatever. Right. Incomplete information. I didn't think clearly about it. You don't recognize sometimes that you're racist, right? There's been times in my life where I don't recognize that I'm being racist.
Starting point is 00:50:16 And then I suddenly hear something that makes me realize I have been racist. And then I stop and it's a painful process to go through. Yep. But you go through it. But you go through it. You do it. Yep. And you do it.
Starting point is 00:50:30 But unless you're a fucking giant coward and then you don't even fucking look at the flaming wreckage behind you. Right. As you gingerly step over it and pretend nothing happened. I mean, all this would be a non-issue if he was like, holy shit, I didn't think it was going to escalate this bad. Yeah. I misjudged the severity of the conflict, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:50:51 You know, I was wrong. Yeah. This is an atrocity. As I watch this unfold, I have come to the conclusion I was wrong four days ago when I downplayed this. It's the fucking easiest thing in the world. And actually, to be honest, to be honest, that's an easy thing to do. That is the easiest thing to do. That is the easiest thing to do. That is an easy thing to do.
Starting point is 00:51:07 That's what I mean. He could get out of this without losing any face. And that's the easiest kind of reversal, right? Because he has every, he's the smoothest, he's a fucking lubricated exit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:18 And if you want a lubricated exit, you can head over to adamandeve.com. I want a lubricated entry. Or exit. Or exit. Or exit. Or exit. Or exit. Head over to adamandeve.com. Doesn't matter. No, but it's watching Tucker Carlson,
Starting point is 00:51:33 just, you know, that stream of garbage that came out of his mouth to say why you shouldn't hate Putin is essentially just bagging on every single, he essentially hates every single Democrat in the country because he's strawmanning every one of their arguments
Starting point is 00:51:49 as he works his way through. Oh, 100%. And it's so funny. I have to just, I have to point out too. And he's like, well, do they close down your business by manufacturing a pandemic? It's like most of the pandemic was under your boy's watch.
Starting point is 00:52:02 I know, it's like, I don't understand how they don't see this. Did you guys think the pandemic was under your boy's watch. I know. It's like, I don't understand how they don't see this. Did you guys think the pandemic started fucking in January of 20? What? Or 21, rather? What the fuck? Did you see DeSantis this week when he talked to those kids? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And he made fun of them for wearing masks? He walks out and he sees them. He's like, come on, guys. Take the masks off. And there's these students. He's at one of those state colleges in- USF. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:24 He's at a state college in Florida. He walks up and he says, and all these kids are lining behind the podium in masks. And he walks up and he says, come on, come on, take these masks off. It's enough with the COVID theater. You can wear them if you want, but they're not doing anything. And then he starts his speech. And a couple of the kids took him off. Now there's a couple of brave kids behind there like, fuck you, I'm wearing this fucking thing. If I don't feel safe, I'm going to wear it. The end. That's it.
Starting point is 00:52:48 That's the end of this. It's my safety, not yours. But, you know, to hear him say COVID theater, and you're like, man, it started all under Trump. It was all under him. What are you talking about, COVID theater? What theater has 950,000 corpses in it? Because that's the number of fucking dead so far.
Starting point is 00:53:09 950,000. We're still, like, people are saying, we're still losing 1,800 people a day. It's not like the deaths are slowing down right now. 1,800 people die every single day on a 14-day average. What the fuck? And we're just, like, done with it? Yeah. Because we're what? Bored? Yeah. Well, and
Starting point is 00:53:27 there's a ton of people in the United States that, you know, you look at DeSantis, for instance, as a perfect example. They've been saying since the beginning that he's fucking with his numbers. Yes. They've been saying that he's fired people who've released data. Like,
Starting point is 00:53:44 there's been a lot of garbage that has come out that DeSantis has been trying to fudge his numbers to try to prove he's not wrong. This is Trump with a Sharpie, man. Yeah, it is, 100%. He's just doing it with an Excel sheet instead of a fucking weather map. That's all he's doing. Because a guy like DeSantis is like he's in charge of a state that relies on, for a giant chunk of its revenue, relies on tourism. And I understand it.
Starting point is 00:54:10 And the thing is like, I could be sympathetic to the intense pressure that that provides. And I am sympathetic to the very, very many businesses and the people whose livelihoods rely on this were impacted. But instead of recognizing all of that as true, they're trying to just write a different history book. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:30 That makes me fucking insane. Yeah. They're gaslighting us. Yeah. And I hate that term, but they're doing it. Yeah. They're straight up gaslighting people. They're trying to pretend nothing ever happened.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And then they're trying to blame you for wanting to remain safe. Yep. And it's a terrible turn of events. It is horrible. I'm going to take you to the bank. Vladimir Putin. To the blood bank. He is a legitimate Aikido black belt.
Starting point is 00:54:57 So the story is from Queerty. It's just fucking weird, man. Joe Rogan is spreading misinformation again. And the internet is lolling. So, uh, fuck. And fucking Joe Rogan retweeted a picture of Steven Seagal,
Starting point is 00:55:12 all combat geared up. Oh God. And he, and the, and the, the tweet straight out of his Jodo. That's a, that's a joke from citation needed.
Starting point is 00:55:21 We covered. We, I don't want to say we, I'm going to say this was a gem that Eli found. This was. This was a gem that Eli found. Eli knocked this essay out of the park. So go.
Starting point is 00:55:33 This ball is still in the air. Go search for the Steven Seagal episode. It is an absolute treasure on stuff I had no idea. The best part about it is I walked into that blind because I had no idea. And best part about it is I walked into that blind because I had no idea. And there's so much absolute trash. He's such a trash human.
Starting point is 00:55:51 You had no idea. And he's such a fucking liar. Like he's one of those, he's one of those guys whose entire life is a series of stories that are more and more unbelievable. He's a big fish.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Yeah. And it's, this image is amazing because somebody has photoshopped CNN. And you want to read it, Tom? Yeah, so it says, intelligence agencies around the world have spotted American actor Steven Seagal
Starting point is 00:56:15 among Russian special forces positioned around the outskirts of Gostomel airfield near Kiev, captured by Russian airborne troops. It's a photoshopped image. None of that is true. And it's a photoshop of, of CNN. Now here's the thing that I want to bag on Joe Rogan about. Cause Joe Rogan, of course, tweets this out and he, or he posts this to Facebook and then he says something. So Tom, read what, read what Joe says when he tweets this out and then quickly
Starting point is 00:56:42 deletes it. He says, if I had to guess the plot of this fucked up movie we're living through, I would say we're about 14 hours from the arrival of the aliens. And then he deleted it because he was trying to make a joke about how fucked up this thing is. Right. But he didn't bother to check, right? So a while back, I
Starting point is 00:56:59 did something similar, right? I found a story that was false, but I went through the trouble of checking to make sure that it was a real story, at least posted on that website. So it was a real story posted on Rolling Stone. They just didn't do their due diligence to make sure that it was a correct story.
Starting point is 00:57:19 They were going by just a bad source, just one bad source that they had said. But I had done my due diligence to make sure that it actually occurred on their site. Because here's the thing, you could just type in a little bit of something with CNN and then you'll find the headline. You could find the headline, Joe.
Starting point is 00:57:39 It doesn't take long. It takes a few seconds to do your due diligence to make sure that that story is properly sourced from CNN and you're not just tweeting a photo. But the other thing is like, Joe does this all the time. Yeah. He's like, and I think he's just fucking, he's lazy. I think he's a comedian.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Like that's where he got his start. I think it's how he thinks of himself. And it's just fucking lazy. Yeah. And I'm lazy. I get that. But I have no fucking excuse to be lazy if I've got a $200 million deal. Yeah. And that many people who follow you and pay attention to your Facebook.
Starting point is 00:58:15 You could hire a guy. You could write every tweet. If you wanted to be Joe Rogan and be halfway responsible with that kind of money, you could be like, I wrote this tweet. I'm going to send it. Just make sure it's correct. Yeah. The problem is that it's the speed of the thing too.
Starting point is 00:58:27 And I think that one of the things that a lot of these people recognize is that they've got to be on these platforms a lot. Constantly. Constantly to look at.
Starting point is 00:58:34 And you know, we're saying Joe. It might not be Joe. It's a possibility it was a dude who works for him that did that. That's true.
Starting point is 00:58:42 There's a possibility. I have no idea. We don't know if Joe has a guy. It could be his girlfriend or his't know if Joe has a guy. I don't know who's handling his fucking it could be his girlfriend or his wife or whatever who's doing it. I don't know who's handling his social media account, but whoever did it
Starting point is 00:58:53 is wielding a lot of power to a lot of people and they can spread false stories all the time. And he's done it before he's been burned and doesn't learn the lesson. And I don't know if it's the speed of the thing either because what I want to mention is that
Starting point is 00:59:09 there's this speed factor that you have to have in social media where you have to be first. And if you're first, then you get all the retweets or whatever. And so that's how you get all your juice on social media. I don't know if it's the speed of it and I don't know if slowing it down
Starting point is 00:59:22 would ever help Joe Rogan not be a dumbass, right? Like i don't know if slowing it down would ever help joe rogan not be a dumbass right like i don't know that any amount of slow motion right would let joe rogan suddenly be smart yeah but like if i get burned two three four times right on this kind of thing then i seriously i would something in place i would have a i would have a guy like do things like i would hire for that kind of money, I could hire literally a full-time person whose job was to enter.
Starting point is 00:59:49 I would tweet him what I wanted to be tweeted. It'd be on call. It'd be 100% on call. Hey, make sure this is right. Here's a salary job. Right. I tweet out 10 times a day.
Starting point is 00:59:56 You got to be on call ready to do this. It would slow it down by minutes because like you said, fact-checking some of this stuff takes seconds. No time. Seconds.
Starting point is 01:00:04 He could have easily searched on CNN to double-check if this was real. And his excuse for this is like, well, fact-checking some of this stuff takes seconds. No time. Seconds. He could have easily searched on CNN to double-check if this was real. And his excuse for this is like, well, it seems believable because Steven Seagal has been in trouble for shipping. And you're like, okay, seems real isn't enough.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Seems real. Can we not? And the thing is like, does this have any particular direct harm in and of itself? No. But this adds to a cluttered information ecosystem that is so full of disinformation and misinformation that we are unable to trust
Starting point is 01:00:33 anything that lives on it. And that allows for bad actors to manipulate us. And the more shit we let live in this information ecosystem, and the more we propagate it, the worse off all of us are about other more serious shit. Not that the Ukraine situation isn't serious. It's deadly serious. It's deadly serious. But this particular story isn't serious in that sense. But you're 100% right, Tom.
Starting point is 01:00:57 That is exactly why we need to stop somebody from doing this. Because he's not just your Uncle Joe sharing a bad story who, you know, five family members are going to see it because everybody else has him hidden on Facebook. Right. He should have done a gut check. He should have done a gut check by the book. That's all I'm saying. Oh, you saved it, buddy.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Look at this guy. You saved it. Jesus, look at this guy. Fucking serious. Okay, it looks like, okay, Pat Robertson looks like he got shot in the chest with a shrink ray and like that part of his body is shrinking or there's like a weird forced perspective where his head
Starting point is 01:01:42 is so much closer than the rest of his body. His body has shrunk over the years, but also, and I am not, I'm not even kidding. You got to look at this picture. See, so when was the last wake you went to? You're absolutely right. I know where you're going. He looks, he looks like the makeup on him looks exactly like corpse makeup. It looks like someone is manipulating him from. I'm not even kidding. No. When you go to a wake and you see the corpse there, and every corpse looks exactly the same. They use the same fucking makeup for every corpse you've ever seen. You're right.
Starting point is 01:02:14 His makeup guy is straight out of the fucking funeral home. All right. Straight out of the funeral home. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. But, I mean, how do you bring a dead thing to life? Let's play this. This is Pat Robertson.
Starting point is 01:02:28 This is him talking about the conflict that is currently happening in Ukraine. I think you can say, well, Putin's out of his mind. Yes, maybe so. But at the same time, he's being compelled by God. He went into the Ukraine, but that wasn't his goal. His goal was to move against Israel ultimately. By the way, we learned last week,
Starting point is 01:02:49 at least we were messaged, and we must've said it a couple of times. It's Ukraine, and I'm trying to catch myself because I grew up in the Cold War when you would use the definite article in front of it. And you shouldn't do that. It's Ukraine, not definite article. I think I know I made that mistake many, many times.
Starting point is 01:03:07 I think I did too. I'm trying to correct myself. So if you do hear me say it, understand I'm doing my best to try to correct myself. So if I said it earlier in the episode, I didn't mean to, but I'm trying to work on that, but he's wrong.
Starting point is 01:03:21 You should say Ukraine. Ukraine, not the Ukraine. Not the. And God is getting ready to do something amazing is it reanimate you and that will be fulfilled and what putin is doing by moving as he is to set up uh ukraine as as a uh staging ground for one of the armies. And then across is Erdogan at Turkey. And you've got between them that little Jordan Al's area. And it's going to happen. So I just say that is what's coming up. Is Putin crazy? Is he mad? Well, perhaps. But God says, I'm going to put hooks in your jaws and I'm going to draw you into this battle, whether you like it or not.
Starting point is 01:04:10 And he's being compelled after the move into the Ukraine. He's being compelled to move again to get a land bridge and then across the Dardanelles with Turkey and watch what's going to happen next. You read your Bible because it's coming to pass. First off, if you put hooks in his mouth and you pulled him, his whole body wouldn't move, but his whole face would basically just slide off his skullet. I don't know that you could put hooks in his paper, paper skin. I think the hooks are just,
Starting point is 01:04:45 the weight of a hook would pull it right out. I feel like a stiff breeze could just blow right through him. He has never looked older. I'll tell you, even a couple of, you know, maybe a year ago when he was still doing this regularly, he still, you still looked at him and you're like, gosh, that guy looks like the Crypt Keeper, but he's, you know, he still, you still looked at him and you're like, gosh, that guy looks like the Crypt Keeper, but he's,
Starting point is 01:05:05 you know, he still, now he genuinely, 100%, you're absolutely right, he looks like, he looks like someone reanimated a corpse.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Oh my God. It's astonishing that he's upright. Yeah. It is, especially wearing that corpse makeup. I'm also amazed
Starting point is 01:05:21 that like, he's like, yeah, you guys watch, like there's a, there's that like, end of the world apocalypse glee. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:28 That these guys have. It's like, oh, I can't wait. I can't wait for people to suffer and to die. And for the end of the world to come, that's going to be awesome. It's like, no,
Starting point is 01:05:36 like your God is if any of that was real and it's not. So I'm not worried about that. Like I'm worried about plenty of other shit. I'm not worried about that. But if any of that was real, that would be the worst. Yeah. I know. Like if that God existed, Cecil, and he came down into the studio, I'd be like, you're the fucking worst. You're the worst. The other thing that it does too, not only does it make like, like you say, absolutely. It makes all of these people so ghoulish when they look all around the world and there's no better word
Starting point is 01:06:06 than the word you used gleefully looking around the world at all the sadness and hurt and damage that humans do to others and use it as fodder to try to say that it is the end times come to pass, right, to prove their point and to be gleeful about it. That's a great way to put it.
Starting point is 01:06:28 But the other thing that it does too is it makes every single conflict on the globe about them. It takes away the agency of all these people and all the horrible agency behind people on why they do things and all the uplifting agency on why they do things and all the, you know, the uplifting agency on why people do things. And it makes it about them. Nobody is in control. It's about my God. It's about, and, and it's, it's a way to make entire United States history. In fact,
Starting point is 01:06:57 the world history about you. Yep. Yeah. These guys are like cataclysm and tragedy fetishists. Yeah. They're, they fucking get off on this shitsm and tragedy fetishists. Yeah. They fucking get off on this shit. Yeah. And it's grotesque. Yeah. It's absolutely grotesque. And they're excited for the next level of suffering to ramp up.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Yeah. They want it to be true. And I think part of the reason they want it to be true is because it'll finally, it's like the Q guys, I think, at some point, they want to find a baby with its fucking face chopped off so they don't look stupid. Or see John John or whatever. Yeah. Because I think at some point, they're willing to have the tragedy so they weren't wrong all this time.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Just so they could feel better about it. Yeah. Yeah. Otherwise, they were just wrong. If you're Pat Robertson, you wasted your whole life. Yeah. Yeah. If this shit doesn't come to pass,
Starting point is 01:07:40 you've literally wasted your whole life. If you die and just go to sleep, what now? Right. Yeah. I feel like an asshole. Well, not for long. You don die and just go to sleep, what now? Right. Yeah. I feel like an asshole. Well, not for long. You don't feel anything. Not for long.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Right? Not for long, Pat. Not for long. But yeah, it's a selfish way to look at the world. Yep. It's a ghoulish way to look at the world. It really is disgusting. And this is just on par for every one of these people,
Starting point is 01:08:03 every one of these prophets, quote unquote prophets, the evangelical prophets. They've been doing this for decades and it gets sick. It's just so sickening every time you see it, but sometimes it's just so writ large, you just got to call it out. So we would like to thank our patrons. Of course, we'd like to thank all our patrons,
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Starting point is 01:10:35 work on this. The Grand Unified Theory of Bullshit, guys. You can search for it on Amazon. You can buy it in paperback. You can get it as a Kindle. It's available on our website as an audiobook. It damn well better be. It's available on our website as an audio book. It damn well is available on our website as an audio book. We're saying it because we're hoping it's true. God, we're going to make sure it's true. So this Monday, you should be able to buy the book as an audio book on our website. And then you can also, like I say, pick it up in any of its hardcover. It's not hardcover, softcover now. Hardcover's in a couple of weeks.
Starting point is 01:11:05 I haven't gotten the proof yet. So I don't even know what a hardcover book even looks like because they haven't sent the product. When I got it, and it'll take over a month for you to get a hardcover book if you order one, just letting you know. Will it really?
Starting point is 01:11:18 Yeah, it will take you over a month to get one. Holy shit. I don't know what they do. They must like have to- What do they fucking hand assemble that thing? They have to like they have to like mill the paper or whatever
Starting point is 01:11:27 but it's but seriously it takes a long time so I haven't even seen that's why it's not up as hardcover because I haven't even seen it because we haven't gotten
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