Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 620: Who Runs Lunchtown?

Episode Date: March 14, 2022

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Today's show is brought to you by AdamandEve.com. Go to AdamandEve.com right now and you'll get 50% off just about any item. All you have to do is enter the code word GLORY, G-L-O-R-Y, at checkout. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. Recording live from Glory Hole Studios in chicago terrible idea keep going this is i'm just gonna be complaining every episode what would be different every episode we blast anyone who gets it i am the guy aren't they we bring critical thinking skepticism i'm 100 that guy i feel like i feel like you just held a mirror up so I could look at myself.

That was a too true moment. I didn't mean it, buddy. I love you. What the fuck would be different if you weren't complaining? I guess that's true. Skepticism and irreverence to any topic that makes the news makes it big or makes Cecil mad. It's skeptical. It's political.

And there is no welcome at this is episode 620 of cognitive dissonance. And this is our, uh, this is our drinking to gronies on air drink, buddy. This is the gronies, uh, the fucking absolute King that Heath is.

Yes. Heath. I, we just did a record with him on Monday where, I don't know, somebody walked away. It might even have been on Sunday when I was talking to him. I don't know if you were there.

I don't remember because I recorded with him Sunday for a get ahead for their gam show. And then we also recorded Monday for Citation Needed. I don't remember when he told me. He said he's drinking these Negronis. And he said, I'm drinking Negronis, but instead of gin, I'm using Mezcal. And I said,

well, that sounds really interesting. I said, I'm going to have to go to the store and get the stuff. And he's like, here's what you need. And so he told me. And I put in my phone and then I never got to the store this week because I've had the worst week. You've had a bad week. You've had a very shitty week. Literally a very shitty week. Literally a very shitty week. It turns out when

a toilet overflows in your house, it is the most expensive thing you could possibly imagine. And so I've had this awful week, but I didn't get a chance to go. But today he sent us in the mail for each of us. For each of us. A mixer. A whole mixer. Yeah. With the Mezcal. Yeah. And so that's what I'm drinking. I will say this. Yeah. It's not my drink. Nope. But cheers to Heath. Cheers to Heath.

Cheers. Good for you. I like this drink. I also want to say to anybody who's listening to this podcast that this podcast is our first test ever. It is a video. So if you go to our YouTube channel, you can watch this whole podcast transpire. We are trying something new where we record a whole video and post it to YouTube, but then the podcast will still release and still be available just for everybody else

as well. But it's a brand new thing that we're trying because Ian just will never let it go. He won't. He just literally will never let it go. Ian has this fucking idea that this is a good idea. And what's amazing is he's been wrong about every fucking idea that he's ever had. So many things. Literally since we hired him. Since we hired him. He's been wrong

about every idea that he's had. He's like Nostra dumbass. But he's like a weird bulldog about it. Like, I don't understand. Like, if I was wrong that often, I would give the fuck up. You would eventually just acquiesce a little. Do you know how I know that?

Because I'm wrong so often, I usually just give the fuck up. You know what this is also, Cecil? What is it? This is the day, not that the Lord hath made, but this is the day that our hardcover book has become available. That is true.

Our hardcover book was submitted today. These are, I'm going to put the camera on me so they can see. This is not for sale. This is the proof copy. But essentially, the hardcover book proof copy looks great. They did a wonderful job on it. So I approved it today. So within, I'm guessing within like three days,

it'll be available. So by the time this releases on Monday, this will be available. You can buy the hardcover. Yeah, it'll be available. Very cool. So yeah, man. I mean, this is all the pieces.

So what are the formats you can get the Grand Unified Theory of Bullshit? The formats for our book are Kindle and paperback and you can buy those on Amazon as well as hardcover now.

They're all print on demand. So I know we've gotten some messages from people who were like, hey, is there a non-print a print option that is non-Amazon and there isn't.

There just isn't. No. We just don't have The cost involved for that is too high. We just don't have that. So we that. It's just, it's too high. We just don't have the, so we had to do it this way. But we,

Tom recorded a majority of the book. There's a couple of little audio pieces from Marsh and I, but Tom did the recording on the audio book. The audio book turned out excellent. Ian mixed it. I edited it and it is outstanding. It's, it's a perfect,

it is a perfect reading of this book. Every piece of it, I think, really falls together very well. You did a wonderful job and people have been buying it. So it's available on our website right now. I submitted it to Findaway Voices. And what Findaway Voices does is it distributes it to all kinds of different audiobook sellers. Except Audible, guys.

Except Audible. Because Audible chews your fucking soul up and spits it out. They take everything. And Findaway Voices already takes extra amount from us anyway. So you should be able to find it on all those places where audio books are sold that aren't Amazon, that aren't the Amazon version. So I think Nook is a place. And then there's like audiobooks.com. And it'll be on Apple and other places. And it'll be $20. But it's going to take like 30 days for everything to be there. But when it's all,

it's in about 30 days, that'll be the last piece that comes out is that piece. And right now you can get the audio book of the Grand Unified Theory of Bullshit on our website. On our website. And that's, and we've gotten some messages like, hey, if I really just want to support you guys, which one should I buy?

And that answer is clear. It's the audio book. Audio book. It's the audio book. The audio book. It's the audio book. We did it all. It's all on us. We did it all. It's all on us.

So we did all the work. And so you're basically paying for our labor and no one gets a cut of that except for us. We get the cut. We get the cut. That's the cut. There is a cut that goes to the state government. We got to pay the state.

We got to pay the state. The state of Illinois gets their juice. And PayPal gets its juice. But we get a payment out of that that is away from everybody else. So if you're interested,

that's how it is. But the book is out and people are, I want to say too, if you bought the book, please rate it. I mean, like we,

you know, we would love it if you'd rate it because all the ratings that we get, it puts it up higher in the rankings and people can see it.

There's a better chance someone else will see it. What if they want a signed copy? Well, if they want a signed copy, go to our website. We sell, we're giving away, I mean, they are giveaways essentially because you're just paying for the production.

We're not making any money. We're not making any money on it. But if you pay us $5, we'll send you a bookmark. It's actually going to be $7 because of shipping costs we underestimated. I'm not just pocketing the money. Don't worry. But if you do catch me on a jet ski, then you know what happened.

And the bookmark looks really nice. Tom, you have the bookmark there. I do. I have the bookmark. Put the camera on Tom. So Tom, there's the bookmark. And then if he turns it around, it's signed. You can't even see that.

It's so overexposed. It's so overexposed. And the audio listeners can't see anything it's signed uh you can't even see that it's so overexposed so overexposed and the audio listeners can't see anything anyway you can't see anything but in any case the uh the the bookmarks are available you pay five bucks we'll sign it and then we'll ship it out to you and that way you have you know and if you see us in a in a conference in the future which we're hoping to go to you will sign your book love to go to something someday but you at least have something that we signed and we we're more than happy to do we're hoping to go to. You will sign your book in person. I'd love to go to something someday. But you at least have something that we signed and we're more than happy to do it. We're tickled that you would even ask us to. I mean, it's such an honor to even sign something.

So it's really wonderful. But it's on our website. Go check it out. Listen, I'm not going to be able to make the game tonight. Oh, why? Well, I have to go out into the streets and scream obscenities at women that I don't even know. And then after that, I got to handwrite letters

to all the golden girls telling them that I'm going to shit down their throats. And then after that, I gotta handwrite letters to all the golden girls telling them that I'm gonna shit down their throats. And then after that, I gotta bring these naked photos of my ex-wife to her office and show them to everyone that she works with because she's such a bitch. It's gonna take hours. Hey, we can do all of that before we go.

Yeah, right. No, with the internet. Look, it's easy. All right, Cecil, so this first story comes from ProPublica using Facebook's own data to understand the platform's role in January 6th. So this is a long form article, all ProPublica seems to be. Just outstanding. But what really grabs hold of me is not the fact, because we've talked about this before, it's not the fact so much that Facebook and Facebook groups were essential sources of spreading disinformation and misinformation.

We've talked about that. That's fucking established science, right? Yeah, right, right. But when ProPublica teamed up with data scientists from the Washington Post, they were able to pour through these Facebook groups and the data from these Facebook groups and identify about 650,000 posts from these Facebook groups. And as you read this ProPublica article,

and go to our site and check it out because it's really worth reading, the thing that jumps out to me, Cecil, is this is data collection and data management and data science that can be done by ProPublica.org and Washington Post, who have vastly less resources than Meta. They used interns, man. They used interns, and they had a system. And their system was essentially to create some sort of weeding algorithm. Right.

It would figure out a way to take posts that they thought were damaging politically, right? Misinformation posts. I mean, blatant misinformation posts. Just bullshit.

Bullshit posts. Just straight bullshit. And they would take them and separate them out. And they erred on the side of, because they had to go through so many of them, they erred on the side of,

we'll play it safe, right? And they hired somebody. Meaning letting more pass rather than less. Way more, way more. They played it safe. So there's 650,000 is an undercount. Yeah, even say that at the end of the article, it's an undercount.

There's a possibility that the 650,000 posts is an undercount. And what's crazy is that they show that many of these posts happen in a span of time. And I'm going to scroll to the, I'm going to scroll. If you're watching this video, you'll be able to see it,

but I'm going to describe this graph to the people who are listening. Essentially what it shows is it shows the timeframe leading up to the election. So there's a line that shows the timeframe leading up to the election. And you can see how many posts that Facebook was very proactive in taking down.

These are posts and groups that they were actively hunting for. And you can see these large spikes. These are huge spikes worth of data that they're just pulling down off their site. And then you come to this other part, this section in the middle that is essentially this doldrums

that happens between the election and January 6th. And they just, they went silent. And the reason why is because they're making money, man. Yeah. And lest you think anything else, on December 2nd, they disbanded their civic integrity task force team. It cannot be said more clearly that Facebook has had and has always had the technology to remove this kind of shit. Yeah. So when the, you know, and this counts for, if they can remove this, they can remove vaccine disinformation.

You're right. So they have always had the ability to remove this stuff. They have, and they are complicit. They are blood on their hands, deaths at their door, complicit in the pandemic. Yeah. And they are complicit. They are blood on their hands, deaths at their door, complicit in the pandemic. Yeah. Because they are.

And you will never convince me otherwise. They are absolutely complicit. Because, and we've said this on the show before, they've got the technology to remove a nipple. Right? Post your fucking titty.

You can't put anal on there. Right. Right? Not more than two or three times and then you get all they get and then you get a 30-day ban like oh don't show your cock and balls okay whatever okay whatever sure fine no more prolapse videos of whatever fucking horrible shit fucking the world is ruined but yeah like they've always been able to do this. Time lapse of a prolapse. But yeah, you're right.

I read an article though. Hold on real quick. I read an article. This is going to be good. I did. I read an article about like whether or not like, because I guess there's a whole thing. I didn't know this. There's a whole like thing of like anal prolapse videos.

Yikes. thing of like anal prolapse videos yikes where where people will learn or t or or train their bodies to prolapse on command and it has like a name like a sea cucumber like expelling its insides to capture something and like they talk like and the and the question and if you want to see cucumber on your prolapse saying it's you can can go to Adam and Eve.com and her Gloria checkout and don't do this to your butt. The article is like, which came first? The internet or a chicken

or the egg kind of a thing. It's really unclear. There's a gastroenterologist like, don't do that. That has to be surgically fixed. That's real bad for you. I wonder if it's like the clapper. I'm just like, I'm just reading this article.

Pavlobs, prolapsed anus. It just starts salivating when you ring a bell. Do you know what it's called? Oh, I can't. Cherry budding.

I can't, that can't be perfect. It's such a sweet name. That can't be more perfect. It's such a sweet name for such a horrible thing. I love't. That can't be perfect. That can't be more perfect. It's such a sweet name for such a horrible thing. I love it. So like, all right,

you can't post fucking cherry budding videos on Facebook. Because they'll be taken down instantaneously. Yeah, immediately. And they've always been able

to take down this shit. The fucking, the vaccine disinformation that got promoted and like, has just ruined our ability to control a pandemic. The fucking election integrity shit. The QAnon shit.

They have the ability to sort through this, guys. They can do it. They just choose intentionally not to. And you can tell just by that graph that I said, right? Just by that graph, you can tell that they actively decided not to. I mean, your motivations are clearly in front of everyone. Just by that graph, you can tell that they actively decided not to. I mean, your motivations are clearly in front of everyone. Dude, if a handful of interns, a dude from the Washington Post and ProPublica can do this work because they want to do this work,

then literally thousands of engineers— A team of engineers can fucking engineer something to make sure this doesn't happen. The fuck actually out of here. You know it's true. You know it's true. You know it can happen. And all different types of sites have this problem, right? So Reddit has this problem where there'll be like these little incel groups

that'll just fucking feed off each other. And then they finally get so toxic that they either get muted or something. I forget exactly what they do. I forget what it is exactly what they do. They like, I forget what it is, but they do something to basically essentially like quarantine it. And then, so you can't post to it

or like you can't upvote. I'm not exactly sure how it works. And then eventually they just get banned. So like the Donald is a perfect example, right? The Donald was the pro-Trump board. And that got completely banned. It was initially shut down and then it was completely banned.

And they all went over our conservative. And eventually, that may get banned too if there's calls for violence or other things. Right. So there's real problems

in many different sites. And in particular, one of the problems actually is leaning too far into this and allowing your algorithm

to take over too much. This article here talks about how YouTube is censoring too much. Yeah, this article comes from The Intercept. Big Tech's Kafka-esque approach to censorship is driven by an abiding contempt for its audience. By the way, that title, fuck that title, it's hard to read.

That title is good. That title gets like a flesh Kinkade of 12. Jesus Christ. So, and we've encountered this shit on this show. Yeah. Like YouTube has, YouTube has, when we did that one on the Suez canal. Yep. Yep. Yep. YouTube, YouTube has it's, it's algorithm set to fucking stun all the time or fucking kill all the time. Yeah. Or fucking kill all the time. To disintegrate. It's like, and the problem is, is like, there's so many people out there and I've seen this happen to other YouTubers, right?

So there's other popular YouTubers that will make a debunking video. Yeah. They will debunk something or they will hear a claim. They'll be like, here's a claim about vaccines and then they will go through

and just boom, boom, boom and they will talk about all this. But they have to use the source material. The problem is is that they get fucking bounced and then they have to beg and then they have to cajole other people to get involved

and retweet and talk to YouTube and then finally YouTube is like, oh yeah, we fucked up. And they did that to us every single time. They fucked up really bad one time when we were actively fighting against vaccine misinformation.

Yep. And they were like, no, we're taking you off because you guys were making health claims. And we're like, we're not making health claims. We're citing articles that are making health claims that are saying these people are crazy. Yep. Yeah. And again, YouTube has the technology to do this right. And the reason you know that, and the Intercept article does a good job of pointing this out, is they don't take down all kinds of other evil, dangerous shit.

So there's all kinds of other evil, dangerous, liar bullshit all over YouTube. It's full of that kind of garbage. But they basically just have the clumsiest, laziest fucking algorithm possible. Yeah. And they do it, I think, because they can. Yeah. And I was thinking about this, why invest more resources to get it right? If I ban you, I don't lose anything, right? What are you going to do about it? Literally nothing because you didn't pay for it. You have no recourse. Where are you going to go? Are you going to go to fucking some other YouTube? Right.

Yeah, right. Exactly. Are you going to go over to Truth Social? Yeah. Fuck you. These guys are so big that they don't have to do a good job. Yeah. What they have to do is the—and they do what every business does.

You sell everybody the minimum thing that people will buy. Yeah. And then you staff to the minimum level. And that's what they're doing. They're letting an algorithm run it. And the problem is, is that when you're so indiscriminate, right? So there's two sides to this.

When you're so indiscriminate that you don't do anything, you get the Facebook problem. And the Facebook problem is that everything, it's just a fucking wild west, everything's allowed. The problem with YouTube is that they're taking down things that are saying, this is terrible, and here is why it's terrible, right? So they take down things

in this particular article, they're taking down this guy who's basically played Trump's speech, and then derided him the whole time about all the lies he tells in this speech, and then they're like, they took it down. They took it down like it stopped the steel shit.

It's like he's using the source to debunk the source. And that takes away from the power of the people to stop these messages where they live. Yep. And so both sides of this, you got to have a good middle ground. This is why we're fucked, right? This is exactly why we're fucked.

It's because over here, you've got Facebook where everything fucking goes, you know, except for a fucking titty or whatever. But everything goes over here on Facebook until they, you know, decide for a half a fucking minute that they're going to have civic integrity task force. And then they disband their civic integrity. Like, because it's like, oh, I guess we don't need civic integrity task force. And then they disband their civic integrity. Like, because as you realize, like, oh, I guess we don't need civic integrity anymore.

That's something we're just, hey guys, you know, turns out civic integrity isn't something we need anymore. We can dust off our hands. Right. Well, now that we're 100%,

well, civically integral. Integrated. Integrated. Integrated. Integrated. And then you Integrated. Integrated. And then you got fucking YouTube. So like you get the bad information on Facebook

and then you go to this other site and these sites, because the way they both work in different ways, they actually reinforce more bad messaging. Right, right. And it's a fucking nightmare. It's an absolute nightmare. And this is the worst approach

because you're taking away those people out there that are willing to fight this stuff. Right. And this happens to so many different YouTubers. There was a guy, I think his name's Potholer54, I think is the name of him. And he's been taken down multiple times just doing debunking videos.

Which is fucking bullshit. You would think that there would be some kind of, we've done this six times escalation process. You would know, like you would have the guy's number at this point. You could just text him. Right. But that's the thing is that YouTube has no, there is literally no financial or market-driven incentive

for them to give any shits about you because you don't pay for it. Not a tiny bit. Why are you here? Why am tiny bit. Why are you here? Why am I here? Why are you here? Why is anybody here? I think it was John Paul Sartre who once said, how do you spell Sartre?

Ow! And let that be a lesson to you. Every minute you don't tell us why you're here, I cut off a finger. Mine or yours? Yours. Damn. I loved this article. I liked this article so much, I texted you when? Yours. Damn. I loved this article.

I liked this article so much, I texted you when I was reading it because you found this article. I'm like, this Time article is baller. It's really good. This article comes from Time. Meet the Lithuanian elves fighting Russian disinformation. So this is a story of,

and I love this because they call themselves elves because elves fight trolls. I love that. I love that so much. Thank you. Yeah, I love it. Thank you. And what this is, this is a group of just human beings and not a couple. No. Like thousands. Thousands. Thousands of them. Yeah. And they aggregate on Facebook in these sites that are like, you know, puppies for me or like, I love corgis or like whatever. They don't call themselves what they are. Yeah, Yorkshire Terriers or something.

Right, yeah. So they aggregate in these sites. And then their whole thing is they go out hunting for trolls. And when they spot trolls that look and behave like bots, they identify that it's a bot. And then they all swarm at that bot. And they report it. And they report it.

And they report it. And they report it. And it goes away. And it's it. And they report it. And they report it. And it goes away. And it's gone. And YouTube finds it and says, oh shit, let's get it off. It's not YouTube, pardon me, it's Facebook. Facebook finds it and just takes it away. You're doing their work

for them. You're doing their work for them. But this is, they've said that they've wound up catching so many of these bots, and they all sort of, the bots swarm and then they swarm. What's really interesting about this is that for Lithuanians, this is an existential practice.

This is not like doing something, this is not like Kit Boga, right? Where it's like, this is a good thing to do and I do it because I have the time, the energy, and the skill and I should. And I can keep one guy occupied.

Right. This is literally an existential practice. The Russian disinformation campaign and the information war that Russia has waged never stopped after the Cold War. Right, never. And this article makes a great point. When the Cold War ended in 91, for the most part, the U.S. and its allies wound down a lot of their information campaign.

Yeah. And Russia ramped theirs up. And we've been talking about this for years now on the show, that we have been at a propaganda war with Russia. We've talked about this for I don't know how long now. And we're losing. At least four or five years. Yeah. And we're losing it.

In Lithuania, because they're one of the Baltic states, like right there on the edge, and they've never been viewed as a legitimate state by the Russians, they've been under constant attack. And they're constantly talking about that exact line, which is they've always been part of Russia, which is what they've been saying about Ukraine right now. That's what they're saying about Ukraine constantly,

is they're not part of their own- They don't have their own legitimate state. They've always been part of Russia. They've always been part of Russia. They're always been part of Russia. And there's a part of this article that says, you would go to Facebook article about Ukraine and you'd see 30 to 50 comments that are almost the same. That Ukraine is fascist, that Ukrainians kill people,

that Lithuania should improve relations with Russia, that Lithuania is occupied by NATO and so on. And then you start checking and realize that they're almost all the same and they're almost all fake. And so it's essentially just a big blast of information. And we talked about this on the show before, and we talk about it in our book, where the more you hear the same thing, the better chance you have of believing it. So if you hear false things over and over and over again, there's a possibility that you may believe it.

And that's a tactic too, right? It's not just getting it in front of you. It's getting it in front of you a lot of times, all these 50, 60 comments. If 50, 60 comments are thinking about it, think about this. Remember that who wants to be a millionaire show? You pull the fucking audience. You know, like, I mean, that sort of thing is like, if that many people said it's true, then it's probably true. Well, maybe they're wrong. Right. Well, there's certainly, it's funny because, you know, the poll the audience almost always works because information aggregates, right?

But there's no propagandizing as part of it. If there was 60 trolls in the audience. Then that changes the whole thing, right? Changes the calculus. It changes the whole thing. If you got 60 trolls in an audience of 100 and their goal is to fuck with you, they're going to pick the wrong answer on purpose. They're going to pick fucking wacky answer. So you've got to understand the intentions of these bad actors and recognize that consuming information, you make a great point and we talk about this in the book, but it's so important. I'm going to say it again.

It's the more you see something, the more you believe it's true. You cannot guard against that. Yeah. You cannot do it. Your brain will do that for you. Your brain just does that work in the background. It's running that system in the background. That's a bio system, baby.

That's base. You can't get out of that. Because most of our decisions that we make, we make subconscious and we make them in the background. They just, we, we intuit most of the things that we come to understand about the world that we live in. Right. So you have to be very careful not to accidentally consume this shit because you will accidentally consume it. It's the same thing. And I know you've done this cause I've done this and everybody I know has done this. Have you ever been telling a story and You're like, you know, I read once that.

Yeah. And if you got pressed, where'd you read it? Yeah. You would not be able to tell him. Yeah. Right. Because you don't have a footnote in your head. You have no fucking clue. Yeah. You just internalized some information. And the I read once is a shorthand for here's something I've come to believe is true and cannot fucking attribute. Yeah. Yeah. That's something we all do without even thinking about. Sure. I saw a movie once about, I saw this documentary, which, and you cannot attribute any of that shit. We all do it. It's okay that we do it. But in a world where there is intentional propagandizing as part of a nonstop information war to change our minds

and to pollute our thinking, that means we can't afford that anymore. It didn't matter as much when it was coming from these less targeted sources. You know what I mean? It's a big deal. God, Florida is a vestigial sack. It's a anatomical sack that America's testosterone and anger drains into. Drains into. I thought this was a wonderful story from Huffington Post. Florida high school students suspended after handing out pride flags. Okay, so when I say it was a wonderful story, I mean like his actions are wonderful not his suspension suspension is wonderful i gotta be careful because you're gonna get somebody's email what do you think was great that you suspended i didn't think it was great he suspended principal's an asshole i i so the law that they have it's a

bill to forbid instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity in kindergarten through third grade, rejecting a wave of criticism from Democrats that it marginalizes LGBTQ people. So you're basically not allowed to even talk about their existence until they're eight years old. Why eight? Like, why is eight years old, or eight or nine, the thing that you're like,

okay, now you're ready to hear about a gay person? I have literally no fucking idea. Why did they, did they just have to throw a dart in their Congress? Like, what is it? I read this. I thought the same thing.

Like, K through three. What? Yeah. Like, if I was a bigot, I'd be like K through 12. Yeah, K through 12. I don't want them to ever know about that.

Why are you, like these, I actually thought it was really weird because those motherfuckers never give an inch. Yeah. It's a very strange number. Hedging on the short side of that. Why are you, like, these, I actually thought it was really weird because those motherfuckers never give an inch. Yeah. It's a very strange number.

Hedging on the short side of that. It feels like a weird number. It feels like you're just like, okay, we just pulled this out. Like, they had all the numbers

in a hat and they just chose this one. Yeah, right. Yeah. There's nothing like particularly magical about the difference

between third and fourth grade. The only thing I can think is like, isn't there in one of those religions, the age of reason? Yeah, when is the age of reason? Oh, look that up. When is the fucking age of reason? Don't tell me it was the 1600s

because I don't... Yeah, no, you're right though because I wonder, oh, fuck me if that's it. Oh, fuck me if that's what drives it. I'll leave you. I'm going to leave the studio forever if that's it oh fuck me if that's what drives it I'm going to leave the studio forever age of reason if it's fucking 8 because that's when you become morally culpable and religious

it's when you can start sinning right it did come up with age of enlightenment for wikipedia by the way if it's fucking 8 years old I'm leaving forever you're never coming back It did come up with age of enlightenment for Wikipedia, by the way. That's really funny. If it's fucking eight years old, I'm leaving forever. You're never coming back? No, I'm staying.

Is it eight years old? It's seven. Seven years old? I have a seven-year-old who doesn't know shit about shit. Roman Catholicism, seven years of age at which a person is morally liable for their sins that he or she commits. What? Now, this is from yourdictionary.com. I have no idea how true that is. Because when I just typed in the search for it,

I can't figure it out. So I don't know. Right, without spending time on air doing it. But like, holy shit, seven? Dude, Eamon is seven. Yeah. He doesn't know shit about shit. Young man does not know...

Shit about shit. I love him. But he's got no idea about anything. Young man does not know shit about shit. I love him, but he's got no idea about anything. Also, the one... I bet that's the reason though. But anyway, so this poor kid wants to give away these flags. He just wants to give away flags. And he's at a high school.

He's not an eight-year-old. He's not a seven-year-old. He's not a six-year-old. He's a young adult in high school, and he wants to give the pride flags away and they take him on the side and tell him, you can't do this.

What is wrong with you? And he said, fuck off. I'm going to give these pride flags away. And then they take him, Tom, and they put him on administrative leave. Yeah.

And my first thought was like, he's not a cop who killed somebody. I mean, come on. You are on a graded administrative leave. We still give you grades, but you don't have to come to work. They just let him,

they sent him home and he's like, he's not, and they're fighting against because they don't want to be- They don't want to call it a suspension. They don't want to be in the fucking major news but be calling it a suspension. But they 100% suspended this kid. Yeah, what the fuck are you talking about? It's not suspended. Can I't want to be in the fucking major news and be calling it a suspension. But they 100% suspended this.

What the fuck are you talking about? Can I come back to school? No. You're on administrative leave. I would like to learn things at school. It's like an institute day or something. You don't have to come back until we all come back and we all said you could come back, I guess. You can't come back

until you pull come back out of the hat. Until you pull the number eight out of the hat and it's out of practice. Until you pull the number eight out of the hat and it's out of practice. Yeah, man. It's like It's a fucking bunch of bigots, man. It's this and it's the

fucking don't ever say CRT around me again and all these other Florida is just becoming this hold your fingers as tightly into your ears and scream la la la man

because they are the biggest fucking snowflakes in the world. Thank you. The amount. It's so funny for a group of people that fucking cannot stop fucking jerking off bald eagles to freedom. They fucking love that shit so hard. So fucking hard. They're freedom this and they're fucking freedom that. And it's like, cool.

Well, you know, if a teacher wants to talk about the fact of homosexuality, whoa! Or I want to teach the straight historical truth of slavery and its impact on and driving force for the Civil War and Reconstruction and Jim Crow and these things

that literally defined era after era in American history. No! Fuck that. We got a story in the notes too about, I think it's in Oklahoma, about if you're a librarian, there's a bill which passed the House and is likely going to pass in Oklahoma that would hold librarians personally,

criminally accountable. Is that the 666 bill? Yes. 666. It's the House Bill 666. It's the that the 666 bill? Yes. 666 bill. It's the House Bill 666. It's the House Bill 666. In Oklahoma. And it will hold them criminally responsible.

A fine of up to $10,000. And it's not really defined. Right. For books in the library that offend somebody's religion. That offend someone. And they don't go through any pains to just to define it i would love to and then they want to make that same bill isn't that same bill the one that they want to make uh the bible the state book yeah they want to make the bible the state book in oklahoma what

is happening man like where's my freedom jesus so if i am a muslim can i go to the library find a copy of the bible and be like, that offends me? Right. I mean, what the fuck? We are that afraid of being offended? I thought that was the thing

you leveled at me. I know. That's what they always say about us. That's the thing you level at me is I'm a, oh, I don't want to be offended.

Well, okay. Aren't we, aren't you guys the ones that are supposed to be like, you know, in favor of freedom and I'm the one

that's trying to like say, whoa to your ideas. I'm always the one who's trying to say, censor, censor, censor. freedom. And I'm the one that's trying to like say, whoa to your ideas. I'm always the one who's trying to say, censor, censor, censor. But it's just such a projection because they do it all the time. They keep saying it over and over.

They're just like, no, you're a fucking snowflake. By the way, don't look at me because I may melt. I'm actually, I'm very melting. Please don't look at me. The thing that makes me laugh so much is that this is such a fucking posturing.

Oh, it's 100%. Because kids aren't at the library. Yeah, it's 100%. Nobody's at the like, we got to protect the kids. From what? The library? Yeah.

You ever seen a kid at a library now? It's 2022. What would they fucking use a library for? A library? Are you serious? I haven't been in a library in many years. Dude, I got a library card the other day. I walked in, I got a library card. I didn't check any books out. I went home and I downloaded books at home. On your Kindle or whatever? Yes. Because it's 2022. When I was

at the library, I brought my little guy. We walked around, we got some books. I sat and I read him a couple of little books and then I put them right back on the fucking shelf because I got that shit at home. Yeah. Like it's posturing. It's all a show, right? The whole thing is a show to drive votes. But the problem is like the show is we need to burn books. We need to ban thinking.

We need to like reduce the amount of information available. It's the same thing with all. Let me be on Facebook and Twitter. But it's all the same thing with all the trans laws, the anti-trans laws that are coming in. There was one, I read, I don't know if it was Idaho or Montana this week, where they're trying to ban any child from getting surgery reassignment. But that's not real. Nobody does that. It's like banning a fucking partial birth abortion.

You can't do that already. Nobody will do that. It's all banning like a fucking partial birth abortion, right? You can't do that already, right? Nobody will do that. It's all for show. That's not a thing. It's 100% performative, but what it does is it targets trans people and it allows this brand new, basically whipping person

that they can just beat on in front of everybody to show how powerful they are. And the same thing with Abbott down in Texas, where now he's going after anybody who does anything that even affirms their child is trans. Then he wants people to report them.

They can be fucked. It's the same thing with their anti-abortion thing. Report to DCFS for child abuse. Report to DCFS, and they can get child abuse charges for that. It's abhorrent. It's awful. They can ruin somebody's life.

Yeah. And the whole thing is they're ruining people's lives not because they want to protect anybody. The game here for the politicians has nothing to do with protecting anybody. You're right. The game, to your point,

is to be performative. It's to have the... We saw the same shit with the fucking war on crime. In the 90s, the big fucking performance that all the politicians hauled out, their dog and fucking pony show, was their war on crime. I'm tougher than that guy.

I'm tougher than all the guys. I'll shoot somebody for jaywalking. I'll fucking draw and quarter a guy for driving a mile over the speed limit. In the presidential election, they're just taking turns shooting criminals on the stage i think we should burn the prisons with everybody in them alive i don't know i've seen how many bullets can go through them or whatever yeah exactly ridiculous fuck the whole thing is a performance it has nothing to do with keeping society any safer yeah it has nothing to do with keeping individuals any safer it has to do with whipping up the fucking right guys with the trucks

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are at risk in spending bill. So that's pretty much what it says. Like the new spending bill. The spending bill. I tried to look it up tonight because the spending bill did pass, I thought. Oh, did it? There was $1.5 trillion.

I thought I read that it passed earlier, although I could, did it? There was a $1.5 trillion. I thought I read that it passed earlier, although I could have been wrong. It was just in passing. I was just reading it while I was running around getting ready for the show, so I didn't pay a lot of attention to it. But if it did pass, I was trying to look up to see if this was cut or not. But up to four hours ago,

I found a story that was four hours ago that affirmed this story that essentially said it's on the table and there's a good chance it's going to get cut. And essentially what's going to get cut is over the last year, they've bolstered this budget to allow students to get more food, right? So students that are in assistance,

there's a chance that they get more food, right? There's more food to give away and there's a better chance that people get this food. Give it to more kids. And in some places, we even found in some places, everybody was getting food. Like, everybody was getting food. They were feeding everyone.

Yeah, that's nationally. That's what's happening now. It's like everybody has access to free school lunch. They were just feeding everyone. Yeah. Yeah. Like, why isn't that just the policy? Yeah.

Like, I don't know. Like, that's the thing. As I read this, I thought, fucking it's crazy that it was ever anything else. Yeah. That you had to, like, feed your kid like that.

I mean, like, you pay all those taxes. There should be something there that... I don't have to buy every book. Yeah. I send my kids to school. They get assigned books.

They turn the books back on. I don't have to rent the locker for a year. Right. Yeah. Like, the fuck? You got the kids all day. Feed them. Yeah. Right. for a year. Yeah. Like, the fuck, you got the kids all day, feed them.

Yeah. Right. That's it. Yeah. Just, and like, whatever it costs to build that

into the budget, build it into the fucking budget. Yeah. Like, what world, we talk, I remember we talked

about this when it happened in Wisconsin when Waukesha. Yeah, they wanted to stop it because they were upset. I don't want the money. Yeah,

they didn't want the money because they didn't want to spoil the kids with food. And it's like, imagine having someone over to your house from 10 a.m. to 4. Wouldn't you feed them lunch?

It wouldn't even occur to me to have a guest in my house that overlapped lunchtime. Could you imagine? And you're just like, I hope you brought your lunch, bitch. It'd be like, you know what? We're not going to hang out for a little while.

If you want to go to McDonald's, you can go get yourself some food, but I'm going to cook myself something. I'm going to make something. I don't know if you We're not going to hang out for a little while. If you want to go to McDonald's, you can go get yourself some food, but I'm going to cook myself something. I'm going to make something. I don't know if you brought a sack lunch to my house. Did you bring anything? Do you have like some uncooked rice in your pocket? I'll let you rent my rice cooker.

It's just fucking mean. These are kids. And speaking of mean, they of course mentioned Mitch McConnell, who's like the spearhead of like trying to cut this out of there. Does this guy have like a mean quota he has to fill? It's like he's like Brewster's millions, but it's mean shit he's got to do.

Or else the fucking dark side turns him completely black and looks like fucking Palpatine or something. I've decided he's just a shaved Grinch. Yeah. He's just, he's seriously, somebody shaved the Grinch and elected him to Senate. Like, does he have to meet a quota? I mean, like, that's what I keep thinking is like, does he have to wake up every day

and if he doesn't, like the Dark Lord will collect him at the end of the day if he doesn't do enough mean shit? It's like 1158. He's running around looking for a puppy to kick. Yeah, he's just trying. He's like dumping drinks

and like fucking giving people's wedgie as quick as he can. He's just trying to do something. Give some guy a swirly. I don't want to go to hell. Buddy, you're going to hell. Oh, God. He's the worst.

He's the actual worst. I'm amazed that we're even in a place where politically it's advantageous for anybody to be like, fuck the kids. Let them starve.

Bring your own food, junior. Jesus. What the fuck? Oh, you want a fucking red delicious apple and a cheap bologna sandwich? Why'd you go to hell, bitch? Especially. They just take the sandwich like, eat it, motherfucker, eat it. They just shove it into their mouth. Oh, it's fucking free. Now I'm going to force you to fucking eat it.

Fucking slam the apple off the little kid's head. They got like a fucking Vitamix plunger. They're ramming it down a kid's throat. Throw the kid out of the way. Grab the next one. You're eating now. Jesus, man. It's unbelievable. And it's so fucking, you're right. It's just so mean. It's just shitty

and mean. And this is one of those things, though, that this is the place where the Republicans look and they say, we need a cut here. There's all these other places where the budget is just, it's falling out. Like my stomach after a turkey dinner

is just falling out. Like cherry butter. Right? Exactly. Exactly like that. Because we need to suck that stuff back in. That's horrible. But it's just prolapsing. It's just

prolapsing out. And they don't even pay attention to it. They don't look at it. They wave their hand over it. And then there's all this other income that could be had that they again don't wave at because all that income from lots of very rich people again gets hand-waved

away. They hand-wave away income from the wealthy and the ultra-wealthy. They wave away income that they could be collecting from churches, right? There's billions and billions and billions of dollars on the table. Like, I read a story not that long ago about fucking, like,

using autonomous robot dogs with machine guns to patrol the border. That sounds about Black Mirror. Literally, that is a thing that they're doing. We're literally going to patrol the border with robot dogs that have machine guns on them. You're like, what about feeding a fucking

hungry kid? Fuck them. Build more robot dogs. If they can beat one of those robot dogs in combat, you can get a bologna sandwich. Pretty soon, pretty soon school lunches will just be Thunderdome. They're just a fucking, there's like, there's like the lunch lady is dressed like Tina Turner. Who runs Lunchtown? Who runs Bologna Town?

Really? Oh, man. Get fucking, what's that guy's name on the back of the... You know what I'm talking about? I don't remember. Thunderdome. He's got a fucking name. I don't know.

I don't know either. Well, I was hoping you remembered. I don't remember. I don't know. The joke would have been a lot better. I remember Tina Turner was in it. Tina Turner was in it. That's all I remember.

Was she good or bad? She's bad. She ran Bargatown. She ran Bargatown. Yeah, She ran Bargatown. She ran Bargatown. Yeah, she ran Bargatown. Yeah, she had like, she had like a, there was like a,

like a little guy on top of a bigger guy and he had like a funny name. Oh, it was like, they were like Russian nesting dolls? They were. Like, it was more like he like drove the little,

big guy or something. I see. Oh, he drove the big guy. Yeah, like controlled him. I can't remember what the fucking thing, Master Blaster. Master Blaster.

That's it. Okay, you want to do the joke again? No, I like it like this. Now, dude, you're a little bitch. I am not. I don't even know why I hang out with you guys. Because you're a piece of shit. I am not a piece of shit.

Well, yeah, but you're a little bitch. Sure. God damn it, man. I swear, you guys rip on me 13 or 14 more times. I'm out of here. This story comes from Rolling Stone. Either Mark Meadows lived in a mobile home

on a mountain. Please say that's true. Or he lied on his daughter for him. Please say that's true. I'm good either way. You know, I looked this up to see, because I was like,

Mark Meadows. Yeah. How much money you got? How much money you think Mark Meadows has? Mike, how much do you think he has? 3.9 million.

One million. Okay. Which is not, even Bernie Sanders is like over 3 million, right? So, and Bernie Sanders is one of the people that you look at. You know who doesn't have a ton of money either is Mike Pence. Really? He's worth like a half a million dollars. No kidding.

In total assets. Wow. His net worth, half a million bucks. No kidding. Yeah, not a rich guy. Wow. Like, just not,

you know. He must have had to pay Trump a lot to be vice president. Jesus Christ. Can you imagine being Mike Pence? You're back home and you're living in fucking Indiana and you're like,

well, that was, that didn't work out. I made a huge mistake. Oh boy. You know what I did? Those guys literally want to hang me. I will say, my exit interview

with the January 6th commission was very difficult. That was a tough room. You got to be packing your shit and be like, that did not go as planned. That was a tough room. Tough room. You walk out the wrong door and you literally get hanged. That is a tough room, man. But anyway, Mark Meadows basically lied on a form because there's no way to prove this, right?

So the tough part is that it's so hard to prove this kind of fraud, this kind of voting fraud. But the people who live around him are basically like, yeah, man, I don't think I ever saw that dude around here. And he has to at least spend the night there. And he never did. Well, in the mobile home, it's a total piece of shit on top of like Skull Crusher Mountain or some fucking thing. Yeah, sure. And it's a total fucking piece of shit. And the people that own it were like, I don't think I rented it to that guy. Yeah.

Like I have no record of renting it to him. Yeah. His wife came here for like a day or two, but I don't think I ever saw that guy. And the one guy who owns it now is like, man, I've done a lot of repairs on this mobile home. I've done a lot of repairs on this mobile home. I've done a lot of repairs on this mobile home. I don't think he would have liked it before I got to around and fixing it up. That's the thing is like, this is a-

Why would you rent it? This other thing I think though too, I gotta be honest, they should take every single person who is part of the staff and also in Congress and the house, and they should make them live together in like a FEMA

camp in downtown D.C. and then that's it. You just live in your FEMA camp. It's a FEMA camp and you have to live there. And think of how many people would not be fucking part of the government if you made them live in like like fucking like shared housing or something where you have a dorm

where you have to go back to your dorm and you share like a bunk with Nancy Pelosi or whatever. Think about how many people wouldn't do that. You would only get people who- Who were serious about civic service. Serious about the specific thing they want to do. Alternatively, and this would solve literally no problems, but it would be amazing.

But it'd be fun. And I'm okay with that. You could divide all these people up and have like a flavor of love style house. That would be amazing. But it'd be fun. And I'm okay with that. You could divide all these people up and have like a flavor of love style house. That would be outstanding. Right? Like a big brother kind of house. Yes.

Oh, yeah. Where they all have to do like challenges and stuff. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Ocasio-Cortez are fighting the whole time. They're like, I'm going to show this to her. One spits on the other, and the other one claws at him and shit.

Oh, man. I would watch the shit out of a fucking live together reality show of old politicians. Oh God. Oh God. And then you get like one, one person in there,

like Charlie, one's a Democrat. How will they make it in the big city? One of these, one of these people who used to interview. So like Rachel Maddow comes in and she's the person who's cut to constantly doing the talking to, and they have to do the confessionals.

Yes. They do the videotape confession. Like when somebody, like when it's election time, the winner gets a rose or whatever, like it's the bachelor. Oh, that'd be amazing.

We need to reinvent American politics. That would be the best. If it just, if it just turned into that. You know what? Like it's like, it's fine. The apprentice won a couple years ago, man. It's fine. But anyway Like it's, like it's such a farce now. The apprentice won a couple years ago,

man. It's fine. But anyway, here's, here's the real deal with this story is that there's just a ton of projecting going on, right? All these people,

whenever we find any kind of voter fraud, it's always the people on the right that are committing it. We don't, we rarely see anybody else who's doing any of this stuff. And then you get a chance to see these guys. And these guys are like big wigs. And they're even cheating the system. Yep.

Yeah. The amount of voter fraud that takes place is unimportant and de minimis. Right. That's it. Right. Now, the first step in creating your MySpace page is to fill out your profile. Things like your name, sex, and age. With the age thing, could my child put a different age than his actual age?

Yeah, I guess they could. And MySpace doesn't have a way to police that? Not really. So if my son was 45, he could say he was 15? Your son is 45? I said if he was 45. It's hypothetical. This story comes from MSN.com. Your son is 45? I said if he was 45 Hypothetical This story comes from MSN.com

The launch of Trump's Truth Social app Is not going well It is Did you try to download it? I did not, no I don't think you I mean, I think you can download it But you can't get in

But you can't get a login Yeah, so let me I just want to read how badly this thing is going Because it's just delicious. The social media platform founded by former President Donald Trump went live on 21st of January. For a time, it rose to the top of Apple's App Store

and eager downloaders were given a waitlist number for when they'd be able to start posting on it. Nine days later, many users are still waiting. I created my account within five minutes of it going live, one truth user complained on Twitter. My email said my waitlist number was 25,021. I got up the next morning and it had jumped and hadn't moved in a week. I'm losing interest in truth.

Another grumbled. I read that Cecil and I thought like that's America in the 21st century. I'm losing interest in truth. I'm losing interest in truth. You know what? I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. That needs to be a shirt. Yes. Yeah. I'm losing interest in truth and then do truth social. Also

like if you're losing interest in truth, you're ironically in the right place. You are. You're right. You're right. Absolutely. They never let anyone new win. Yeah. It's so funny because this guy who said that his name is cat turd and he's got like a whole show. So Yeah, it's so funny because this guy who said that, his name is Cat Turd. And he's got like a whole show.

So I didn't realize this. Like, this is a whole show? This guy's got a show. Oh, I didn't click on this. So he's got a show. I'll go to Cat Turd's website. Cat Turd is hilarious. Cat Turd's website is a podcast. He's got fucking almost 700,000 people

that follow him on Twitter. And it's called In the Litter Box with Jules and Cat Turd and it's a far right garbage show. Oh, is it really? Yeah. See, I wondered how many people were trying to get on Truth just to

check it out. Yeah. You know, that weren't far right assholes. Clearly this guy is a far right asshole. So that's who's on it. They're trying to get on, but they keep getting bounced. And the best part was, is even on Truth Social.

So I went to Truth Social's actual page. Where's Truth Social? Let me just look it up. My, while you're doing that, my very favorite thing is that Truth Social created a Twitter account to promote Truth Social. Right.

So, but Truth Social is an alternative to Twitter. And Trump's whole thing is like, I'm trying to get away from big tech, but they can't, they so can't get away from big tech that they have to promote their shit on Twitter and apologize like, hey guys, promise it's going to be working. And they're doing it all on Twitter while they're trying to shit

in Twitter's mouth. Exactly. They want to fight against Twitter, but they can't get away from Twitter. Right. They can't stop it. It's so delicious. It's so amazing. If you're on Twitter, you've got to fucking love this. Jack Dorsey's got to jerk off to this fucking every night. He's not part of Twitter anymore. But he was. He was

though. He's still interested. I got. But he was. He was though. He's still interested. I got to find this though because the best part is that yeah, this is the Truth Social. So this is their post. Look at like what their header says, Tom.

So hold on, hold on. I want to go to their actual page. Look at this. This is Truth Socials, right? It looks very similar. I got to read this too real quick. This is Truth Socials, right? It looks very similar. I got to read this too real quick. This is Truth Socials. Donald Trump says,

you know, it gives his shit. 45th president of the United States. And then it says, get ready. Your favorite president will see you soon. And it's 175 flowers,

27... Seven retruths or whatever. Retruths. True again. And then 48 hearty truths. Right. That's so funny because it's fucking, because there's nobody there. But that tweet is the last thing he tweeted.

Or that truth is the last thing he truthed. The last truth he truthed was I'll see you again soon. And then he didn't see you again soon. Because he's a grifter and he doesn't care about it. The first thing on truth was a lie. You know what? That's amazing.

It's amazing. You're absolutely right. It's a lie. And then he, like, of course, grifted the entire thing. He doesn't care. Right. He just wanted you guys talking about him. And it's a fucking disaster.

You can't use it. It's unusable. But one of the things that I think would make it popular, that I thought would make it popular is, 2022 feels like the time you want to just scream into an empty room. And that really is true social, right? Screaming into a giant empty room.

No one is there. And this is, I mean, it's like life imitates art. That's exactly what this is, right? Yeah, you're not wrong. And so I think it's a perfect app for 2022. Big empty room to scream into. There is a speaker facing down into a chasm

in, I think, Iceland. And you can dial up into that speaker and scream literally into an abyss. This is a digital that. It's the digital that. This is exactly that. And no one will ever hear it. That's it.

Because nobody can get in or nobody cares. Yep. It's fucking amazing. Oh Here's something I want to play for you, Tom. And I put this in the notes late. Okay. And I want to play this for you. Oh, oh. Here's the thing.

This is from Vanity Fair. Trump admires putin's ability to kill whomever he wanted x staffer says now here's what i want to say though and i want to talk about this because i feel like if you listen to this it's not as bad as vanity fair is putting out here so really okay let's listen to it all right and that you know, when we listen to it, we can make this decision. We can make this judgment. Perhaps Putin had something on him. What are your thoughts? I think, honestly, I think he feared him. I think he was afraid of him. I think that the man intimidated him because Putin, he's a scary man. I mean, just frankly, I think he was afraid of him.

I also think he admired him greatly. I think he wanted to be able to kill whoever, it spoke out against him. So I think it was a lot of that. In my experience with him again, I'll just say he loved the dictators. He loved the people who could kill anyone, including the press. And I will say this, I just want to say in watching all of this with Zelensky, Donald Trump would be 57 feet below ground hiding. And Zelensky has been out there fighting for his country. This is a hot topic on the view, by the way. Oh, I thought they got rid of way oh I thought they got rid of Rose

I thought they got rid of Whoopi no she was suspended for a short time oh okay yeah she was like well I think administrative leave oh she took administrative leave did she kill somebody

so I don't think it's as bad as they say here Trump admired I don't know man it seemed pretty bad it's close but it's someone else's idea of what they thought

about Trump it's not because the idea of what they thought about Trump. That's true. It's not. Because the way they say it here, Trump admired Putin's ability. And then they put the colon at the ex-staffer at the end. So they let you know that that's what it means. But the first piece of that is what catches you. Vanity Fair is bad about that.

I've actually stopped clicking on Vanity Fair. And it's funny because I used to subscribe to the magazine, to Vanity Fair, the actual paper product. And they have good journalism sometimes, but their online shit is real clickbait. That is a clickbait headline. I clicked on this headline and then I listened to it and I said, wait a minute.

And then I went back and I reread it because again, you know, you're doing things very quickly. And so it's my fault. I clicked on it thinking just before the colon. And I was like, holy shit, somebody heard him say this. But nobody heard him say this. This is what his assessment. Now don't get me wrong. Stephanie Grisham. This is the lady. I think, I think that's her name. I'm pretty sure that's her name. Excuse me. I just want to double check. This is the lady, I think that's her name. I'm pretty sure that's her name. Yeah.

Excuse me, I just want to double check. Yeah, Stephanie Grisham. It's on The View. She is somebody who is very close to him. Yeah, she was a press secretary. Very close to him. And she was also, I think, I'm pretty sure, she was like Melania's personal executive secretary

for a very long time. So this is someone who's very close to that family. Yeah, I think her sort of hot take on Trump is it might not be perfect, but it's worth listening to. It's worth listening to. And it gives you the idea

to me like, maybe she's right, maybe she's not. I don't know. Right. But it's still not as bad as I thought it was when I first clicked it.

That's not, I heard him say, I wish I could kill people like Putin. Instead, it's like, I think this is how he felt. That's not, I heard him say, I wish I could kill people like Putin. Instead, it's like, I think this is how he felt. That's like me saying, I think Cecil feels like. Yeah, sure. I got a probably good read on you,

but I'm not in your head. You're not in my head, so you don't know exactly. And that's the thing is, I think that there's a lot of things that she says that seemed pretty evident to most people. He admires dictators. There's no other person in the, in the United States history that flew over to North Korea and then saluted the,

like the generals over there. Like, I mean, that guy cozied up to dictators like crazy. He loved him. Yeah. Because that's a, that's a motherfucker that loves power. That's a guy that, you know, and it really, if you look at his comments at the beginning of the Russia-Ukraine war, like the invasion of Ukraine, I want to say, by Russia, the unjust massacre. Yeah. If you look at his comments,

you know, he initially was praising Putin. He's kind of walked that back since it's no longer politically popular to do. But he initially was praising Putin. He was saying things like, oh, you know, he gets Ukraine for the cost of like two sanctions or whatever, you know, $2 in sanctions. And, you know, Putin's a genius for doing this and all this. And you can very easily read that as this is a guy who thinks that if you can take it without repercussions, you should.

Yeah. That the reason you don't, and there's that bad atheist joke. You know, it's like, you know, hey, if you're an atheist, why don't you rape and kill people? Well, I rape as many and kill as many people as I want. Exactly. That's a Penn-Teller thing. Yeah. Penn thing. And it's the same thing for Trump.

Like, if the only thing holding you back is the consequences. Right. And it's the same thing for Trump. Like, it's the only thing holding you back is the consequences. Right. But I think for a guy like Trump, the only thing holding him back from bad action are the consequences. Yeah. Not the fact that the action is bad. Which he didn't care much about anyway.

Right. And— Just whether he could get away with it. And, you know, the more stuff comes out about the January 6th thing, he was going to try to get away with something. Oh, he was trying. Yeah. The efforts of other people thwarted him

thankfully yeah but that motherfucker was trying to just straight up destroy democracy he was he was all about he was 100%

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So we got a little bit of messages we want to talk about this week. Last week. Was it last week on the stream or maybe it was last week on the show. I had said something like, how cringy would it be if we took like amodel's body or Salma Hayek's body and put Nancy Pelosi's head on that? And if you want to see what that looks like, Seth sent it in.

Shame on you, Seth. It's called Pelosi Hayek, and it is a fucking horror. And here's the thing, man. That is as cringey. When you look at this and you cringe, that is how everybody on the right who looks at this and cringes should feel when they look at Trump. When they look at the fucking

Trumps to loan. Yeah. That's how you should feel. That is cringy as fuck. Terrible. It's so cringy and weird and you should feel ashamed. Seth, thanks for sending it in. We're going to post it on this week's show notes. A couple of different messages from people. Lucy sends in this

message. Free flow this last weekend down in Florida, a Free Thought Convention. Looks like a great time. Noah was there to give a talk and some people brought her book and they had Noah sign it and Noah has crossed out Tom's name. Look at that. And he has signed it right. And he's smiling right along with it. He's got a big smile on his face too which is great this one's from lucy and she sent a picture that's awesome take that me uh so funny um we got a message uh and this is uh this is from well the person named their name is i take umbridge with cecil's referendum on roasting vegetables okay uh. But they said that Democrat Marcus Flowers is the one who is running against MTG in Georgia.

So if anybody was thinking about spending any kind of money on any kind of races and you really hate some people, because I did this. Like last time, during the big things that were happening, there was three or four people across the country where I thought they have a chance.

I'm going to donate to their opponent. And I did in a couple of different races. And then I also helped with you to create a whole fundraiser for two of them after the runoff. But specifically before that, there was four or five ones that I donated to. I donated to, what's the lady in Maine?

Susan Collins. Susan Collins. I donated against, even though I figured she probably was going to win. I still was like, I spike donated and I donated to Lindsey Graham, spike donated to Lindsey Graham's opponent and I did it to Mitch McConnell's. These weren't large amounts, but there was a couple that crossed the country that I saw. I was like, this one's tight Opponent. And I did it to Mitch McConnell's. These weren't large amounts, but there was a couple across the country that I saw. I was like, this one's tight. Right. And I threw a little in. I have no idea how tight this race will be,

but if you hate Marjorie Taylor Greene, this might be something you want to throw your money at. Marcus Flowers is the Democrat, according to I Take Umbridge and Cecil's Referendum on Roasting Vegetables. And if you don't hate Marjorie Taylor Greene, why? Yeah. Why not? No, you should really start.

We got a message. This is from James, and James also had Noah sign the book. And so he did, and there's a picture of him signing the book, but one of the things that James says is that Ukraine, there's an organization that was vetted by the

Humanist Society and American Atheists. I don't know how true that is, but he sent the link in, and we want to make sure we share it. This is a Ukraine relief organization called Sunflower of Peace. We'll put a link on this week's show notes. Tom and I are also thinking about in the future, maybe a stream coming up. It might even be next stream

where we donate all the super chats and we match all the super chats for some Ukraine charity. We did not get an opportunity to look into that yet, but we will all the Super Chats for some Ukraine charity. We did not get an opportunity to look into that yet, but we will in the future. So we're hoping that it's either going to be this, but it will be in the next two streams. So here's what you do.

Show up to both streams. Yeah, just come to both streams. And if this is important to you, come to both streams and then we'll try to make sure that the Super Chats go to that. We got a message and this is from Nico

and they said they just wanted to add to the discussion about Florida's lack of COVID restrictions and mentioned example where another place where it was heavily reliant

on tourism dollars but did the right thing and New Zealand was that place. And that's so true. Yep. New Zealand relies heavily their GDP is heavily reliant and they shut their shit down

because they realized that like lives were worth more than money. Yeah. Yeah. And they shut their shit down because they realized that like lives were worth more than money. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the calculus. There's been a couple of places in the United States

that did the same thing, but others did not. Yeah. And, you know, you just got to look, like we said last time, DeSantis has been manipulating those numbers since the beginning

so it doesn't look as bad as it should. But he killed a lot of people. He did. You know, Hawaii actually did a great job. But he killed a lot of people. He did. You know, Hawaii actually did a great job. Yeah. Hawaii did a great job.

That's, fucking Hawaii lives on tourism. Yeah. And they did a great job. They shut that shit down. Yeah. And there was a lot of people, they opened up

when the vaccine started and they started, they had restrictions, but you could still go there. And so they did everything right. Got a message from John. And John says, I want to buy the audio book

and I 100% understand the no Audible stance. And it makes so much sense. At the same time, it's a huge pain in the ass to have an audio book that isn't part of my library. Can you add it to Audible in like six months? Probably in six months we may.

But when we do, we're going to go through the ACX process, which is like a whole thing. And we're not doing that right now. However, if you happen to have audio books in another place, like if you have them on

Apple or Google Play or whatever, and you want to get it in about 30 days, we submitted it to a place called Findaway Voices that then submits it to all kinds,

like 42 different places across the web. And you can buy it through all those different places once it's available. So in about 30 days, we'll be mentioning on the show where it is available. I'll read off a list of where it is available. And maybe you'll want to buy it from there instead. And then down the road,

there's a possibility we're going to do the awful thing. We've talked about it, yeah. We're not sure yet. We also got another message. This one is from Scott. And Scott sent us a message and he sent us Noah's... Noah's...

Noah's subscription is Doubt Even This Book. And then he signed it. It's really great. That's great. Tom, this message is from David and it's about something you said. Yeah, he said, Hi, Tom and Cecil.

Listen to your podcast, fully stocked from a few weeks ago. I'm a science teacher with a PhD in physiology. Tom gave one of the clearest, most concise descriptions of how science works I've heard in a long time. Thank you. I can't tell how often I have to deal with misconceptions

students have through their internet diets. They are so deeply trusting of anything they see on their phones. I fear for our future and continue the battle to try and teach critical thinking skills. Your interview with Dr. Camargo was also fantastic.

Remember, Hudson Bay bourbon is the worst. I'll never forget that. No, it's impossible to forget. Dave, thank you. It's impossible to forget because that is burned into my taste buds forever. It is. Literally terrible.

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