Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 631: Weekly Gun Tragedy

Episode Date: May 30, 2022

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And there is no gun control. This is episode 631? 631? Am I right about that? I think it's 631. We're going to go with that. It's about 631. Because I think last one was 630. Yeah, I put the notes in the wrong thing.

Ian will tell us if we're wrong. Ian, fucking correct it. Or don't. Whatever. Man, we don't have to call up notes. We've got some talk. And you know, so like last week, Tom and I decided to go out to dinner

instead of going to the show. We wanted decided to go out to dinner instead of going to doing the show. We wanted to just go out and just enjoy a dinner. Yep. So we decided to go out to dinner. We had a wonderful time. It was a great time.

Had some really great mixed drinks. It was a beautiful night. We had a great time. We had good food and we just hung out and we skipped the stream last week because we were like, you know what?

Let's just take a week off. We had already recorded with Dr. Steven Novella about his book and his upcoming book and we thought, let's just take a week off. We had already recorded with Dr. Stephen Novella about his book and his upcoming book. And we thought, let's just take a week off. We got a little bit in the can. You know, you get a little bit ahead and you're like, you know what, we can let it catch up.

Right. And so right before we recorded, I want to say the day or maybe the day before we recorded, there was that horrible shooting. In Buffalo. In Buffalo, where there's a, you know, it was at a place where there's a lot of black folk. It went in.

It was a racist, a fucking racist. A foul racist. An absolute racist. Someone who wrote a manifesto about replacement theory went in and killed a bunch of people. Within a week, we're talking now about a school shooting in Texas. Yeah. We're talking now about a school shooting in Texas. Yeah, it's, we literally took one week off of recording and we have two unbelievably horrific.

Yeah, massacres. I mean, just, yeah, and that's, there's so much to talk about. So let's start with the Buffalo shooting because we didn't talk about that. We didn't talk about it. We need to talk about racism and replacement theory and the role that media has had and our current politicians have had in amplifying that horrifying message. Absolutely.

So there's two important demographics, I think, that help to tie these pieces together. They're both 18-year-old males. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And I know we've talked about this with other massacres. I don't want to go too far down this road again, but I just think it's important to say that

when these massacres occur, it is never a question about whether or not a man did it or not. It's always a man. We've talked about this before. 98% of all mass shootings are all committed by men. And there was a 2017 article that was that surfaced this week that was talking about, it's not just dudes. It turns out it's also dudes who hate women. Yes. And it turns out that, that that is a factor, domestic violence or something in their past is a

factor in the, in the, in the killings too. So it's, it's not just dudes, it's dudes don't like women. Yeah. And, And this is, we have, we have to acknowledge, I think to at least some degree that this is a gendered issue. Sure. Yeah. Because I guarantee that if it was women doing these shootings, people would be screaming from the fucking rooftops. Yeah. You know, why if we had a background check and I know this is not, I mean, this is not a real suggestion, right? This is like a Liz Estrada stylist suggestion. If you had a background check that weeded out men from owning guns,

most of the gun crime would go away like that. You're absolutely right. You would just need one question. Male or female? Yeah. Male, no gun? Fucking gun crime drops to zero or near zero, right? Sure.

Like, this is a very male crime, and that's important, right? I think that's an important piece, but also these are really young people right now. These are young people. Young people's brains are not finished forming. They are, they are, I just re checked my understanding of this just the other day in order to have this conversation with you. The brain has not done completing its physical structure building until the age of 25. In your late teens, you are not a rational person yet. The idea that 18 is this adulthood is a legal fiction.

It has nothing to do with any kind of scientific reality. So we can have more soldiers. It is exactly that. And when you measure teenagers, they make their decisions very emotionally and very irrationally. Their rationality is an after fact because the brain structures that are part of doing that decision making simply aren't there. They aren't there yet. So they're not as good. It's not they can't do it.

They're just not as good at it. So the impulse control is very low. Then the other side, you've got politicians and media and social media amplifying these racist fucking messages like replacement theory. And they were incel culture. Anti-immigration culture, anti-immigration. Anti-immigration. They make their way into the zeitgeist

Sure. of a population that literally does not have the ability to filter and rationalize and think through that information. Yeah.

It seems fucking inevitable. Yeah. Something like that's going to happen. That something like this is going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. When 18 is an age where you can get a gun. Yeah. Something like that's going to happen. That something like this is going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. When 18 is an age

where you can get a gun. Yeah. Right? Not even 18, 18, I mean, you can get a gun at an earlier age

in our country, you know, if it's gifted to you from someone else. Right. That's very true. If you want to buy it from a place,

I think that the age is 18, but I think if you want to buy it from a private person, I don't know that there is an age. I don't know that there's an age. So there's, and also, if you want to get a gift

of a gun, you don't have to be that age. So you can even be younger than this. It just turns out that these people were 18. That's true. To go to the store, you have to be 18. But yeah, you're right. I could gift my seven-year-old a pistol. Absolutely.

Absolutely. What a fucking crazy thing that is. It's an insane thing. And you know, this is a violent, shitty rhetoric. And it's not just, it's not just, it's not innocuous because, and the people who are spouting it are important people. You already said it, it's politicians. And a lot of politicians.

It's Tucker Carlson. They did a daily show the other day, not the daily show, a daily podcast about Tucker Carlson. They did a daily show the other day, not the daily show, a daily podcast about Tucker Carlson a couple weeks ago, right after the shooting. And they talked about how many times he talked about replacement theory. Now, is he is talking as drastically as this guy who shot up that grocery store in his manifesto? No, but the ideas are still there. The ideas surfaced. They came to the surface in the national media attention

when they did the Jews will not replace us chant down in Charlottesville. I mean, you know, and somebody died down there. I don't even remember, like somebody died down there. This kind of violent rhetoric has been happening for a long time. There are shitty, violent, awful people in the world. And this is not just an American problem.

It's all over the world. They want to hurt other people. They're only successful in America. They're only successful here because it's easy. Because it's fucking easy to hurt people you don't like, to hurt people you don't like, to hurt people you hate. You can do it in America so much easier than you can in every other country. Don't get me wrong.

They have the internet. They have 4chan. They have all the things ready to tune you up. They have shitty politicians. They probably have pundits that are awful. They can certainly get Tucker Carlson over there who can say the exact same message to them that he said to these people, but they don't have access to guns.

No, man. And like here in America, guns are freely available because they're considered a right, but they're also cheap. Yeah. Guns are cheap. They're not like,

yeah, can you spend a lot of money on a gun? Yeah, but you sure don't have to. No. You sure don't have to because I'll tell you what, a kid working at fucking Wendy's was able to put together enough money to buy two AR body style assault rifles. Yeah. Two plus like three or a hundred, 375 rounds of ammunition, I think is what they found them with. And he bought

those guns. There's so much to talk about. He bought those guns about a week from what I read about a week before the shooting. There is this like, I'm talking about some of these counter arguments. There's this sort of like, well, we need people to get licensed, get trained, get the fuck out of here. These things aren't complicated to use. Training is not the problem. I get it. Your grandpa and my dad and everybody's fucking best friend, they taught him to shoot and they taught him all those good rifleman rules about, you know, don't ever point at anything you don't want to hole in. None of that matters if you have ill intent. That's not, the problem is not accidental shootings when we're talking about

this stuff. The thing is like, it takes the better part of a short afternoon with time for lunch to learn how to shoot a gun and put a hole in a body. Yeah. Like the fucking gun nuts pretend that one of the solutions is, well, classroom and safety training. And that's not a solution. That's a dumb, dumb fucking solution. The problem is that this guy didn't know. Oh, I guess I accidentally shot all those people. He purposely shot him. Yeah. These guys, they have no training. They don't need any fucking training because the weapons themselves

are built to be intuitive to use and efficient at killing people. They also, both of these events involve body armor. Now I've got to talk about the body armor thing. Body armor is a fucking problem. It's like, why the fuck

do civilians need body armor? You need body armor in your house to protect yourself. Are you going to sleep in pajamas made of body armor? Body armor has one fucking use, and that's military-style application. There's no reasonable civilian use for fucking body armor. If you're like a target for somebody shooting you, right? That's it. There's only one reason

to wear it. You're in danger of being shot. Yeah. Either you're going to put yourself in danger to being shot or you're just like some sort of high level executive or something.

Sure. And if that's the case, there should be an application or permanent process. Yeah, you should have to wear it. Just like, you know, like back in the day when you wanted to carry a pistol,

you had to like, you had to somehow tell people why you needed the pistol. Right. Like back, this was a long time ago, but you had to carry a pistol, you had to like, you had to somehow tell people why you needed the pistol. Right. Like back, this was a long time ago, but you had to have some sort of reason. You had to write down a reason. I have large amounts of cash on me at certain points. Right, yeah. And so I need to carry a pistol or something. The same thing should go for me. Absolutely. Because if they're buying that, that's the thing that makes them, you know, it's all these little pieces that make them do it. It's that opportunity thing you talked about a while ago.

We talk about if you take away and you make things a little more difficult, they don't have to be a lot more difficult. They don't have to be, you know, this amazing difficult thing. If you just make it a little more difficult, it stops happening. You know, you put a little safety catch on something and then suddenly people stop, you know, doing fucking carbon monoxide deaths or whatever. You know what I mean? Like it just takes the tiniest little bit of, and so you start taking away their opportunity to get body armor,

their opportunity to easily get a gun. You know, and we're not even talking about stopping people from getting a gun. It's just easily obtaining a gun. It's so easy. Every time these people talk, the Republicans talk about it and they corner them and they walk up with the fucking microphone and then they ask him the question.

One of the things they inevitably say is, well, you know, those Democrats, they say they have the solutions, but none of those things would have prevented them from getting a gun. And my, my answer to that is then, then make something that will man, then do something that'll fucking stop it because it happens every goddamn week. And you're just like, well, they don't have the solution. Well, then fucking figure it out. What do we hire you for? Why are you here? Fucking punch your car to go home and get somebody in your position that can do something about it because you don't fucking do anything about it. Week after week, they could fucking wheel the dead kids in front of you and you don't fucking care. No. Find somebody who does, man. Yeah. Thank thank you because like there was an article i read today in the federalist

that said something i'm going to paraphrase the headline but only a little bit something like don't be suckered by do something ism on guns and the whole thing was about how like the the democratic propositions for gun control wouldn't help. And it's like, to your point, then what's your suggestion? Do something that will, it's like, this is not a perfect solution. Great. Would it help a little? A lot of problem solving involves narrowing the funnel. Right. So like if we could, if we still had mass shootings, but we had, I don't know, less of them. That would be inherently good. That's better. That's a better.

That's better. Is it perfect? No. Should we do nothing until it's perfect? That's the problem, too. We're going to do nothing because you don't have a perfect fucking solution? You're frozen until you can do something perfect. It's like. And the Republicans know it.

They can sit back on their ass and say, because it's not perfect, meh. Well, and then there's the other thing, too, although point to other countries that have gun control, but like, there's still mass shootings. Like, yeah, they had one in 20 years. I'll trade one a week for one in 20 years.

I will trade that anytime. They'll be like, well, the people still die. There's still mass stabbings. We're like, I will fucking put, I will tell you right now,

politician, you got two rooms to walk into the 30 by 30 rooms. You got to spend 30 seconds in there. One guy's got an AK-47 with a full clip. Then the guy's got a real sharp knife. Which fucking room you going in? Because every day you're going to walk in there with a five. And then let's just say that it's like, you know, like the thing is, is like they talk

about these like knives as if they're like the worst thing in the world. You're just like, look, man, it's it takes a lot to kill somebody with a knife and it takes a lot of fortitude to that person it takes no effort whatsoever to murder someone with a gun none none none it's a calorie energy and they move on to the next one they don't have to gruesomely kill somebody with a knife like that's a gruesome terrible way to and then they're fighting you and, like, you have an opportunity to get hit. Like you don't just go like run in and kill 40 people with a knife. And like, while you're involved in that, everybody else can run. Yeah.

It's like, there's a hundred reasons that's fucking stupid, but also it's like, great. Fine. Even if I concede that point, you know what I'll do? I'll solve the knife problem after I solve the gun problem. Let's see what the knife problem even takes off. Right. Let's cross that bridge when it comes to it.

Can we solve them in order? Like, can we, you know what I mean? It's like if I went to the doctor, I went to the doctor and they ran a fucking body scan and they're like, okay,

bad news. You've got lung cancer and a stubbed toe. And I said, well, fuck me. I don't know what to do something about first. Yeah, or.

You'd slap the fucking taste out of my mouth. Why fix the cancer if I have a stubbed toe? Right, or like, what if they said, well, your toe is, you know what? You've got turf toe. That's just never going to go away. But the lung, and you have lung cancer. I guess if I can't fix the fucking hurdy toe. Exactly. There's no reason to treat the lung cancer. Be like, well, I guess if I can't fix the fucking hurty toe. Exactly.

There's no reason to treat the lung cancer. What's the point? There's no reason. Just put me in the fucking ground right now. Put me in that room with the guy with the AK-47. Can we talk about the fucking mental health? Fucking. Yeah, because there's no.

Yeah, because the rest of the world doesn't have mentally ill people. Also, you want to have a fucking mental health conversation? Let's have a health care conversation. Also, you want to have a fucking mental health conversation? Let's have a healthcare conversation. Mental healthcare in this country is absolute shit. It is absolute shit. It is absolute shit in part because it's fucking expensive like all other healthcare in this country because you don't have a right to it because there's no single payer healthcare because it's not covered by any fucking kind of government program unless you happen to be on Medicare.

And many private health insurance companies have limits on your mental health care coverage. The Republicans are trying to foist this off and they're trying to say it's not guns, it's mental health. And it's like, great. Will you solve the health care crisis in this country? And they're like, no, no. So your solution is to point it. It's like the problem is this bottle.

Well, what are you doing about this bottle? I'm also going to ignore that. It's it. What the fuck? Stop fucking my mouth. You're fucking my ass at the same time. What are you talking about? It's the worst shell game in the world.

It is. Yeah, it's terrible. And the rhetoric doesn't help. The rhetoric doesn't change it. But I mean, man, everywhere in the world doesn't have this issue. Everywhere in the world. There's no place in the world

that has the issue we have with guns killing people. You look at that, what is it, a port, what do they call it? Port something, Port Arthur is what it's called. Yeah, the Port Arthur shooting in Australia. The Port Arthur shooting.

Like somebody went out, fucking murdered a bunch of people. And then they're just like, yeah, man, that's not happening anymore. Nope. Same thing with New Zealand. New Zealand had that mass shooting. And they were just like, those guns are gone. That's done.

We're not doing that anymore. And the thing is, like, you can have a gun in those places. Like in Australia, I was talking to somebody down there and they were saying, yeah, man, you can own a gun. It just takes a lot to get one. You got to have a reason to have one. I have fucking varmints on my fucking property. I got to shoot a fucking kangaroo off my property or whatever. So I need it. I got to shoot all this stuff at my property. I got fucking snakes and fucking funnel webs and whatever the fuck. I got

to shoot it. And so there's like a form and a lot of work. And the same thing is true in Europe. Like there's plenty of places you can own a gun in Europe. It's just really hard to do. And then you also have to have safeguards. There's so many little things, you know, like let's roll back to that thing that we were talking about. If you just put a little tiny speed bumps in front of people, little things, you know, it slows down these mass shootings. Really, really, really intent people are going to do it anyway. They're going to find a way to do it. That fucking Andrix Brevik or whatever guy's name was, he was going to kill people no matter what happened. There was not a chance

that he wasn't going to kill people. He found a way to get a gun, found a way to get isolated people, and he found a way to murder them because he wanted to murder people. He was going to do it no matter what. You're never going to stop those people. But those people, those people are few and far between.

Everybody else is lazy, man. Everybody else is lazy. Yeah. We're like, these were two 18 year old boys. Can you think of anything lazier than an 18 year old boy? If you would have fucking had change in your hand and jingled it, they'd have followed that instead. You could have changed their mind instantly if they would have just had one hurdle, just one hurdle. Also, how insane is it that we're just like, we're unwilling to like not make it hard to kill people. You know what I mean? Like, well, I guess we should just make that easier then. Like the solution is to keep it easy to keep the, like to keep access as open. I don't want it to be difficult because what if it was difficult for me to buy?

Look, I've never, as a regular guy who likes shooting sports, I've gone hunting, like whatever. Like if somebody said, it's going to take you six months to buy a gun, I'd be like, okay, that's inconvenient. Yeah. But I wouldn't care.

But then you'd figure it out. Right. Because there's no fucking gun related emergency. In your life, yep. In a regular person's life. Why are we making it easier for crazy people and murderers and racists and misogynists? Like, our solution is to fucking grease the wheels

with the blood of people, man. And then the other thing, too, is they want to always put it on prevention through force. So there's all these conversations about, well, let's make sure the teachers have fucking AK-47s and there's fucking turrets in the room and they fucking focus on people like fucking Ed 209. Fucking Ed 209.

Whatever. Like a kid walks up to go fucking wipe the board down and gets fucking mutilated by the guns in the room. But it is that it wouldn't be any more dangerous than it currently is. But seriously, like, they want to make it so, like, there's these people that have, or they have armed guards. Well, they had armed guards at this school. They had armed guards at this school. Guess what? It didn't do

anything, man. It didn't do anything. And I know there's reports now. There's reports now coming out, and I don't know if it's true, because there's people talking about it. It's just happening today. It's happening today, and I can't confirm it, but there's video of them standing there outside while it's happening, not going in, because nobody runs into a place where there's an active shooter, man. I don't care how much guns and body armor you have. Most people don't do it because it's terrifying.

And if these people are just like security guards or something, the fuck are they doing? I'm not going to do that. They think they're like taking some kid's fucking vape pen. Yeah. They think they're like breaking up a fight here or there. They're stopping us.

That's what they fucking signed up to do. Exactly. Like they didn't sign up. But also like giving these people guns and then giving them access to school

presupposes that the next person who wants to kill people isn't going to be a teacher. Yeah kill people isn't going to be a teacher. Yeah. Or isn't going to be a guy who gets the job as a fucking security guard. Like we need less violent weapons in the world. Just less, like to the point of none.

And I know that the solution that, and I propose it, but I know it's a garbage solution. We should just repeal the second amendment. It's a piece of shit. The second amendment is a complete piece of shit. You'll never get, you never know what we're going to do. And I know that everybody around the world is going to ask us and say, well, why don't you guys just not have guns? And you're like, well, because

that's not an option here. Right. That's not an option. But I do think, you know, you could slow the fucking coffins, the baby-sized coffins from going in the ground very easily by putting in little tiny roadblocks. Yep. It's like, yeah, it's a longer waiting period. It's a longer questionnaire. It's a,

you know, there's like 25 different things that you could do. You know, there's a longer, you got to get a fucking reference, a couple references. Thank you. You know, you should, you should have to get like a psychological workup done. Yeah. Right. I think, I also think bullets should be real expensive. Think about how fucking expensive cigarettes got. Cigarettes have gotten crazy expensive because we recognize like, wow, that's that's a really dangerous thing. Like the cigarettes are fucking dangerous. People probably shouldn't smoke them. If we create a financial barrier, it will make it less palatable for people to do this stuff. It's just true. Yeah. Like there will just be less ammunition floating around. Ammunition is so cheap.

But the problem is, is you got to have the political will to tax the shit out of it. And people will say, oh, you can't tax a right. Yeah. We already tax it. There's already a state income tax.

Yeah. Right. Like we can tax certain products higher than other products. We know that from cigarettes. We do that. You buy a pack of cigarettes in like Cook County. It's like $75. Yeah. No, it's unbelievable. It's so expensive. Yeah know that from cigarettes. We do that. You buy a pack of cigarettes in like Cook County, it's like $75 or something. Yeah, no, it's unbelievable.

It's so expensive. It's crazy. You actually have to pay with one of your lungs. You have to take one of your lungs out of your body. I have not bought cigarettes

at Cook County. It's expensive. $15 probably a pack, I imagine. It's expensive. And so, you know, yeah, but the roadblocks could be put in

and you could do things like you're saying and you could, you know, there's plenty of different laws that could be passed. Like there's ways to do this. Yeah. And there's just no political will to get it done at all. There's none. And there's a ton of pressure

not to do it from the other side. And then it's all just whataboutism and, you know, switching hands. And, you know, it's all this magician bullshit that they play when this happens to try to get your mind off of changing gun laws. Get the fuck out of here. Now! Oh, you do what exactly? Hit me with that bitch. So this story comes from NPR. Guns are banned during Trump's upcoming speech at the NRA conference.

The reason I put this in here is fairly self-evident. But, you know, these guys are the ones who love to say that the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. But here is a room full of gun supporters who believe that exact narrative. But when their lives are potentially on the line, what do they do? They demand a gun-free zone. Why? Because they feel safer with less guns. And it's 100% evident. And the other thing, too, is it's in bad taste to have these things anyway so close to shootings,

but they do it all the time. Like these things, and it's because shootings happen all the time and it'd be impossible for them to schedule one of these without, you know, because there's always a mass shooting in the United States. So there's no way that they could have

like two weeks buffer around a mass shooting in the United States. It's impossible to do. So they're always scheduled around some mass shooting, but they're like, this one is like really close to this other, this brand new one that just happened. And it's in terrible taste and they don't care.

And they're going to go to a big room where there's no guns and then their Secret Service, they're protecting that room from guns. And did you see the, when Governor Abbott was talking and then the mayor of Uvalde was talking at a press conference and Beto O'Rourke got up and he interrupted the press conference and he's like, what are you going to do to solve this problem? And it was the most incredible thing is Governor Abbott got pissed and he's like, you son of a bitch, you're trying to turn this into a political issue.

And it's like, you're all politicians. turn this into a political issue. And it's like, you're all politicians. That's literally the only reason that anybody ever, ever listens to one because yes, it's a political issue. Of course it is. And you are here in your official fucking capacity as a politician decrying that somebody is asking you to solve a problem. When that's the job job you stood up in front of voters and said, hire me to solve the problem. Yeah. The Republicans keep saying, you're trying to make this

a political issue. And you're like, yeah, well, how do we fix it then? Or how do we, what gives you the right to have these guns? They're like,

well, laws do. Okay, well, who handles making laws? Oh, I don't know. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, it's literally one step of Kevin Bacon

to figure this out. It doesn't take a fucking legal genius. I don't need to be a law talking guy to figure out that you need to have laws in order to stop the stem of fucking blood that's flowing from this country. It's a political issue, period. That's what it is. And it's such bullshit because like to your point, there's a mass shooting all the time. Yeah. So the Republicans can do this thing where they say, oh, not right now point there's a mass shooting all the time yeah so the republicans

can do this thing where they say oh not right now it's a bad taste it's always too soon but if you talk to anybody that survives these shootings the first thing that says when are you going to stop this absolutely what the fuck why is it now my what do i read a story it's the fucking heart i mean among the so many heartbreaking stories, I want to say it's the most heartbreaking. Because that's impossible at this point to compare the amount of heartbreak in the last eight days.

But like the husband of one of the teachers that was killed died of a heart attack yesterday or today. And I have to imagine that this did not help. That like, this literally died of an actual broken heart

after his wife was murdered. Sure. Doing her job trying to protect little kids. Like little, like a fourth grader's a little kid, man. These are babies. These are babies.

I have kids this age. These are little. These are kids that sometimes they cry when they're hungry still. You know? Like these are kids that like if they get too excited, maybe they'll forget to come in and like have an accident. Not very often, but like that's a thing sometimes an eight or nine-year-old can do.

I saw a shirt one of them was wearing that said like, piece to the single digits, I'm 10, is what it said on their shirt. And just like, I'm 10 years old. You're like 10 years old, a decade. You spent a decade on earth and now you're gone. Gone. And that's it. And the people there, and this isn't just one kid. Was it 18? 19. 19 kids. Kids. 19 fourth graders. Unbelievable, man. We let this happen too often in this country. And then, you know, the problem is, is that if you watch this thing with Trump, if you were to watch this thing, you're going to hear him talk about how great guns are and how, and how they're the solution to everything. And the Democrats are trying to take your guns away. And what's

protecting you from tyranny. Yep. What protecting? The only thing that stands between you and tyranny. America has this narrative. Yeah. That like. Yeah, man. That we're all these like minute men just waiting to be mobilized. We're on the wall waiting for the attack to come. Right.

Yeah. But that's just an untruth. That is an untruth. A bunch of fucking yokels with their fucking personal armory supply of pitiful fucking garbage guns because that's what you have. Are they great for killing innocent people that are unarmed? Because that's how they're used.

Yeah, they're amazing at that. But are they good against drone strikes from an organized military? Hey, we're talking about like a bunch of fucking suburban dads. Yeah, man. These guys can't run a fucking mile in 12 minutes without throwing up. And're gonna protect us i will say this too

fuck and the worst part too is that like throughout the last 40 years with the war on drugs we have militarized so many just regular police stations oh yeah that have like swat and bulletproof cars and and just you know like like big shields and you know and bulletproof cars and just, you know, like big shields and, you know, fucking bulletproof shields and guns and like body armor that covers everything and helicopters. I don't care what you have. Even just your police force.

You can't, there's nothing. So the idea that you're going to fight against tyranny or whatever is not. It's fucking nonsense. It's a dumb fabricated narrative. And every single time there's ever any kind of group of people that ever

want to stand up to the government, it's always the Republicans that say, crush those motherfuckers. Because they're the law and order group, right? They're the law and order group, too. It's this weird like hypocritical narrative of everybody that all these gun lovers like these fucking gun gripping fucking they've got this like dirty hairy fucking bald eagle minute men

mentality so weird and it's so weird because like weird transformer man it is yeah and they there's like uh there's like this like independent militia movement and that's perfectly right-wing fine, but then if brown people have guns, they're fucking thugs and it's all nonsense and it's all bullshit and it's all lies and the only way to stop this from happening is to get rid of the fucking guns.

We just got to do something about it. Get rid of them. I wish that there was the political will in this country to do something about it. I know. Sit back, you fucking freak! Shut your fucking mouth! You're no messiah. You're a movie of the week.

You're a fucking t-shirt. So the story comes from the Huffington Post. Investigation reveals top Southern Baptist stonewalled sex abuse victims. And I think this is an interesting story because we've read this story about the Mormons. We've read this story about the Jehovah's Witnesses. We've read this story about many mosques, about the Catholic Church. And now here it is with the Southern Baptist Church. And one of the sort of pushbacks on this as well, there is no real top-down hierarchy with the Southern Baptist Church. It's really a bunch of decentralized, smaller churches, except that that's bullshit. Because as soon as

one of the Baptist churches want to recognize gay marriage, all of a sudden there is a top-down hierarchy. And as soon as women have some say or control, all of a sudden there is a top-down hierarchy and all as soon as like women have some say or control all of a sudden there is some top-down hierarchy and this story really shows how organizationally the baptist church not only abused people but worked just like the catholics did like they did to hide it yeah and it's it's always, you know, like people in power, this happens in businesses, it happens in the military,

it happens, you know, there's all the time, whenever someone is in power, and there's opportunity, there's a chance that there may be some sexual misconduct, right? Some sort of sexual assault. It could be, you know,

very drastic sexual assault. It could be, you know, mild sexual, you know, some sort of like sexual harassment. It can be, you know, very drastic sexual assault. It could be, you know, mild sexual, you know, some sort of like sexual harassment. It can be something, right? Right. That can happen

in any kind of situation. That's, it's awful. It's terrible. And if you take care of it right away and you excise it from your organization, then, you know,

it's like, okay, yeah, that happens. But, you know, like that's just human nature. You know, like you try to put safeguards in as best you can, but you know like that's just human nature you know like you try to put safeguards in as best you can but you can't prevent it

100% right but when you cover it up you're actively evil yeah you're taking steps to be

actively evil to hurt people this is hurting human beings so that you can protect yourself this is just as evil as anything else

that we would consider ultimate evil. Right. And you're doing it on not just a onesie-twosie basis. This isn't one place. This is systemically. You're doing this because you can get away with it. And this is a problem with churches. They do it, they get away with it,

and then they keep it hidden forever. And then they just keep doing it over and over, and then they shuffle people around, and then they do more of it, and then they keep it hidden forever. And then they just keep doing it over and over and then they shuffle people around and then they do more of it and then they hide it under the rug or they stonewall people or they force them not to say things. And it's just, this is a terrible, terrible thing that they propagate and that lives in churches. It lives there and it stays there because it has a beautiful, nice, warm home there. Dude, that's exactly right. Make no mistake. They foster intentionally this exact activity. This is not...

Because the only time they're sorry is when they're caught. Absolutely. First of all, no matter who you are, organizationally or individually, the only time that you recognize your moral culpability is when you're caught. Is that the only time you're sorry? Then you don't actually recognize your moral culpability, right? That's not a recognition of your moral culpability. That's a recognition of your accountability and moral accountability is different. So it's a bullshit dodge, first of all. Second of all, they are actively working to recruit, maintain, and foster an environment that not only allows this to happen unpunished, but encourages it to happen again. Because as

soon as you know somebody is a sexual predator, and then you allow them a fertile hunting ground, then you are basically opening up the fucking door and saying, like, have fucking at it. Yeah, man. That's what they've done. They did it for decades. There's nothing unintentional. There's nothing accidental. It is, again, we've talked about this on the show.

This is the easiest moral question and the easiest procedural question. You get it right every time. It's 100% easy to get right. This isn't complicated. Just get rid of the people. Just get rid of the people and report them to the police Just get rid of the people and report them to the police. It's done. Get rid of the people,

report them to the police. The moment it happens, you get rid of the people and you report them to the police. That's it. You used to work here. Now you're fired. I called the cops.

That's it. Yeah. And that's done. Like, we're done. Yeah. The end. Hansy-slapsy. The end.

You know, if it turns out that you're exonerated, we'll rehire you. Yeah. Yeah. We'll rehire you. I'll give you back pay. But if it turns out that, yeah, youated, we'll rehire you. Yeah. Yeah. We'll rehire you. I'll give you back pay. But if it turns out that,

yeah, you're a sex predator, you stay fired. Sure. You go to jail because I called the cops. Yeah. Yeah.

100% of the time. Yeah, man. Yeah. And they're going to, and they, once in a while, there'll be some sort of push internally to do something.

And so that's what this was. Yeah. There was a push internally to do something. And they hired like a third party to do this work. That was a third party to do it. Which I think is great. And so that's what this was. There was a push internally to do something. And they hired like a third party to do this work, which I think is great. And they fucking,

they found a lot of stuff, man. Yep. The third party was like, there was no, they weren't invested in this and they just said, no, man, we're going to find

a whole bunch of shit. And they did. They fucking did, man. And it's an appalling thing, but it's the most predictable thing in the world. Oh, I know. It's the most predictable.

Of course it happens. Sure. You know, yeah, you can get away with it's the most predictable thing in the world. It's the most predictable. Of course it happens. Sure. You know, yeah, you can get away with it in the public eye for a long time if nobody comes forward, but eventually something's going to come to light. At this point, don't you think genuinely, like, don't you think government has to get involved? I feel like, yeah. All right, look, here's the deal. Gotta do something, man. If as an organization, you are found to have covered this up, you lose your tax exempt status, we no longer recognize you as a church and we're foreclosing on all your property.

Yeah. That's it. Yeah. You can't be here anymore because in order for you to have a religious claim of authority, you have to have some moral authority. Yeah.

And if you have actively chosen to cede that moral authority to rapists, then we're done. What the fuck? We're done. What the fuck, man? We're absolutely done. I'm sorry, but all your property is ours.

Yeah. That's it. Yeah, man. You're wiped the fuck out. This is not combat. It's an act of lunacy, General Shah. Personally, I think you're a fucking idiot. This story comes from LGBTQ Nation.

Right-wing extremist promises to hunt LGBTQ allies during Pride Month in shocking video. So I watched this earlier. I just want to know from you, does it sound like a troll to you? Does it sound like someone who's pretending that they're going to do this? Now, I don't know know from you, does it sound like a troll to you? Does it sound like

someone who's pretending that they're going to do this? Now, I don't know, because they do talk about this person, you know, sort of having right-wing ties. So clearly if he has right-wing ties, it's a long con, right? If that's the case, but it doesn't sound real to me. When I watched it, I was like, is this person for real? Like, it doesn't, it, it. Yeah. I got an impression that he was, I did get an impression that he was speaking at the very most, like figuratively. Figuratively. Figuratively. Okay. You know, so I did not get an impression that he was actually suggesting he was going to hunt. Yeah. Like hunt. But you know, like the thing is, is like we talked before and we talked many times about like when somebody says something, believe them. Yes. And so, you

know, this is one of those things where if somebody knocked on his door and had a lot of questions for him, I don't think that I would have any problem with that. Yeah, man. And I actually think you hit on something I wanted to talk about. So we're at a place, we've talked about this before, we're at a place where there is become, there's a trollification. Yeah. there's a trollification, right? And it's problematic because it becomes impossible to suss out what's intended

and what's meant and what's genuine from what's not. And then, you know, we now have a group of people who have these ideas that we all would have thought were bullshit,

extreme trolling nonsense that have actualized into the physical world and created enormous amounts of misogynist and racist violence. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and I was thinking about this the other day. I think the way to combat trolls is to take them at face value. Take them at face value. If you said it, you meant it. Yep. Don't allow anywhere in your life, and I mean, politically, law enforcement wise, everywhere else, don't allow any of that. It's just trolling. Yeah. That's gone. We can't afford it. Yeah. We literally cannot existentially afford this anymore. Now, when people say something, it's like,

and I'm not talking about joking. There's a difference between a joke. No, absolutely. Absolutely. I a hundred percent agree. But, but guys, here's the difference if i if i tell a joke and you say i don't understand your joke explain it i can yeah when a troll is just joking and you say i don't understand your joke can you explain it they can't they're gonna well or they can but it's just gonna be hatefully racist or violent right but it won't be a joke it won't have a punchline there's no joke right they can explain. But the only way to explain it is through something that nobody wants. Right. Yeah. Yeah. A joke that falls flat can be explained and you'll understand what I meant for the punchline. A troll is not a joke. Yeah. And we just need to start taking these fuckers seriously. So when you say I'm

going to hunt LGBT, that somebody should knock on his door. Somebody should be like, okay, that's threatening. Right's threatening a protected class of citizen. This is people, I don't know if they are protected. They might not be in their state. But we need to do this because eight days ago, somebody went hunting in Buffalo in a grocery store. Yeah, somebody did. Let's watch it and then maybe the

audience can decide. But I agree with you. I think, you know what? You said it. Either you mean it or you don't. Either you mean it or you don't. Do you mean it or you don't? So here we go. Let's play this. So guys, this June, me and my boy Kyle, you know, we're going to be exposing Target.

So, you know, Target, you might as well permaband me forever across all your stores in the United States. Because if you don't, we're going to be coming to every single one and we're going to be exposing every single pride, what is it called, pride shrine, satanic pride shrines for children. We're going to be exposing every single one. We're going to be pressing all the managers at every single target. We're going to find and expose all the LGBT supporters, all the employees that support it. We're going to be exposing them.

We're going to make massive scenes in every single target across Phoenix, Arizona. Okay, so across Phoenix, Arizona. Across it. Across it, he's going to do it. Now, here's the thing. This I totally believe, right? You're going to go and be a dick at a store

with a TikTok camera or a camera phone in your hand and you're going to be an asshole. I get that. And I trust you will do that. I fully believe that a man with that mustache will behave like an asshole. Absolutely. Oh, no. I mean, it's a prerequisite.

It's a prerequisite when you get that mustache. There is no way you can walk around with that mustache and do good in the world. 100% agree. It's impossible. Agree. Yeah. And we're not going to let corporate poison the children. So, Target, we're giving you a heads up. It's like not even... Okay Yeah. And we're not going to let corporate poison the children. So Target, just we're giving you a heads up. It's like not even, okay, so like here's the thing, man.

Yeah. I get mustaches. You want to wear a mustache? That's cool. But it's like not cut right. So like one side comes down and one side goes out if you look at it. It's not, it's not even, it doesn't look even. It doesn't look like, it looks like he kind of just eyeballed it in his mirror.

Yeah, and it's, it's, this is, you guys, if you're not watching the video of us, like, this is a, don't do this. Don't,

this is the worst. It's just the worst. He's got, he's missing the middle section of the mustache. He did a whole, like, pull it out.

So he's got, like, a reverse Hitler or whatever that is. Yeah, exactly. I don't know what that is, but just like, and then, like, his mustache splitter and it like and then it's wrong on it's not symmetrical and then it also just like fades into his shitty stubble face it does it does it's got a fade in

his mustache so like what the fuck is that yeah man it looks weird i'm just saying it looks weird that's all it's a weird choice. Can you have bed mustache? Like if you roll out of bed and don't take care of your hair, you got bed hair, right? Here's the thing, man. When I wake up in the morning, most of the time my beard looks pretty good

because it's sort of flat. Oh, mine doesn't. It's always sort of flat and like against my face and looks good. And then like as I get through the day, I'm just like, and I look like a crazy mountain man. I am the opposite.

I wake up in the morning and like, I don't know what I am doing, but like I wake up and my beard is like pushed all off to one side. And like pointy and like it's fucking bonk and it won't straighten until I shower. No kidding. Yeah, like I mean, it will if I just like

let it go half the day. But like if I just get up right away and try to like brush it straight, it's going to be like, no man, I'm at least at a 15 year age. My beard looks great after I fall asleep. Oh, I look horrible. Yeah. I wouldn't want... I look terrible the rest of the day though. So I only get like 15 minutes.

Kudos to Haley for agreeing to wake up next to me. Get up. I hope that, you know, we'll be coming after you hard, hard. You know, I've already exposed you guys. But, you know, this is going to be next level stuff. So, you know.

Rice wins. LGBT loses. See, that to me, I see that. And I think that's a joke, right? Like, that's a joke, right? I don't know, man. It's impossible. That's the thing.

It's like a poem. How do you tell? You don't know. It's a poem. I'll be honest. I look at these two guys. And just even from the look, the one guy looks like, he genuinely looks like the dude from Super Troopers. The guy who just spoke looks like a joke.

He looks like he's in the sabotage video. Yes, yes. He looks like he's- That's it. Right? The look, everything, but because we're in a world where you can't tell anymore. You can't tell what's satire. We can't satirize anything.

I mean, I look at them and I think both of them, I'm like, you guys are joking, right? This looks like a costume. You guys look like you put on costumes. You cut your facial hair like that because of this. Right. That's what I think. This is what you would do if you were tomorrow, if you were going to shave all your facial hair off. Yeah. You would probably do the same thing I

would do, which is you'd come out of the bathroom with a mustache. Shaved all crazy. Or with a mustache or whatever would be like like i would do the mustache they'll come up here or whatever i'd be like yeah no what do you think this is where i'm going i would yeah yeah i'd be like full man chill like here we go yeah and then i'd come out with a braided on my beard like this or whatever i'd be all fucked up fucking a if i would plant nice clothes and just come out all dressed as if i was ready to go out yeah because that's funny because it's good but then I would get sent back into the bathroom

to do a good job. But when I see this, I think these people are dressing for a reason to make a joke. But then again, like you said, I don't know what's real anymore. Because look, the neckbeard went from an insult to an actual thing. The neckbeard for a long

time, remember that? Like fucking neckbeards. That was like an insult. But now neckbeards are a fucking thing. The neck beard for a long time. Remember that? Fucking neck beards. That was like an insult, but now neck beards are a fucking thing. I also like to hunt LGBT supporters on my free time. That's one of my favorite pastimes. We're going to be going on hunting expeditions pretty soon.

Hunting the LGBT supporters across Arizona and Phoenix. Keep an eye out for that because, you know, you're not safe. Okay, you say stuff like that, you should be arrested. You should, yeah. There's somebody should be not, at least not going to be like, you're threatening a group of people. That's a threat, man.

And the other, the other reason why this has to be taken seriously, no matter what his actual like internal intentions are, right? Is this is a public, This is a public statement now. And this will radicalize other people. Yeah. Just like we saw that asshole that shot up Buffalo. Sure. How did he get radicalized? Yeah.

He had to watch somebody's video. He had to watch Tucker Carlson or whoever. These guys are watching videos of this shit that some of these people might be trolling. Yeah. But none of that matters. Doesn't matter. Because if I can't tell, if I can't suss that out- Not the intent is there. Then it's genuine. be trolling. Yeah. But none of that matters. Doesn't matter. Because if I can't tell, if I can't suss that out,

if the intent is there, then it's genuine. Don't know. Right. You support the LGBT agenda, you're not safe. You're not safe. Right, Kyle?

Yep. You're not safe. They're not safe. It'll find you. It'll find everyone. Yeah. You can't hide from me. All right, so that's it. I have a

feeling it'd be very easy to hide from that guy. I'd just hide under the soap. I think as long as you weren't in a basement, specifically his mom's, he wouldn't find you. But I see that and it looks like an act to me. It looks like an act, man.

I just don't see it. But I'm like, I'm with an act, man. I don't, I just don't see it. But I'm like, I'm with you though, man. I'm 100% with you. You know what? Let's just do this. Let's do this. Let's send the cops to your house. Let's talk to you.

Let's look through your stuff because you're the one who's putting it out in the world. Yeah, man. You're putting hate speech out into the world. You should be treated like somebody who puts hate speech out into the world. And at the very least, talking about guns again. At the very least, okay, you put this shit out in the world, you're going to go hunt people?

You're going to hunt other people? Your name should go on a list. Your name should go on a list at that point. You should not. Now your background check flagged and if you have guns, they get taken away from that red flag. Sure. We need to be paying attention. A lot of these assholes, not all of them, but a lot of them have

very public personas where they express a desire to hurt other people with violence. Yeah. And I think if you're like putting that shit out there, you don't get to say, well, I need this for defense. Yeah. I'm sorry. No.

Yeah. Absolutely not. You're just going to have to defend yourself like those kindergartners do. Right. By running. Right. That's what you're going to have to do. You're going to have to run for your life. Jump out a window like some of those kids have to defend yourself like those kindergartners do. Right. By running. Right. That's what you're going to have to do. You're going to have to run for your life.

Jump out a window like some of those kids have to. Go run for your life. Yeah. You know what they're going to have to do for those kids? They're going to have to like individual bomb shelters that they go down into. Just everybody on their desk has a trap door lever. A trap door that they pull and go in.

Like mini panic rooms. It's so funny because they've been building some of these places too, some of the schools with like panic room door type things with like bars and shit on them. And like, that's where we're at, man.

That's where we're at. We get a fucking architectural solution, but we don't have a fucking gun solution. We don't have a policy solution. Yeah, we don't have a policy solution. Because we don't have a social answer. Yeah, exactly. When he moved to Hollywood,

he had to go door to door to tell everyone he was a pederast. What's a pederast, Warren? Shut the fuck up, Donnie. This story comes from onlysky.media. I got to say real quick, I don't know what Only Sky is, but I keep seeing it.

Yeah. And I've seen it, and it appears to be well-vetted, and I've looked, and I've found this same story in several other places. Let's see if there's an about. Hold on a second. But this is a new news source for me, and so

I'm... It's Hemant. Urgency of Secular Values. So it's a secular... Okay. I have used them, but I've vetted them independently every time. Yeah, no, you find this story somewhere else, and you think, okay, but yeah, this is Hemant. That's funny, but I've vetted them independently every time. Yeah, no, you find this story somewhere else. Yeah. And you think, okay, but yeah, this is Hemant.

That's funny because I did grab this one on purpose because I liked his take on it. Yeah, and it turns out it's Hemant. It turns out it's Hemant. And he has great takes. He does. He's a smart guy. He writes great. His blog is excellent.

His tweets are excellent. He has been holding people's, religious people's feet to the fire for a long time over a decade yeah great guy yeah church embraces pastor who admits to adultery despite victims saying she was 16 so when they say embrace you've got to understand what they mean is they have a great big giant group hug yeah literal it's a literal embrace yes and. And the group hug. So what this, this guy stands at, this pastor stands in front of his church and he goes on this long, woe is me, please forgive me rant. Right. And it's, it's, it's this, you know, I was unfaithful 20 years ago or 10 years ago or whatever the number was. I was unfaithful to my wife. My wife knows it. And I had an affair

and I shouldn't have done it. And I'm not making any apologies and I've sought forgiveness from God and now I'm seeking forgiveness from you guys. And if that was the whole story, that would be just another attention-seeking bullshit. It's trivia. It's scandal. It's whatever it is in your little church. It's hush, hush. Right. And I do want to say it that way intentionally because I think this sort of thing, it's like, all right, if you reconcile this with your family and with your God, the only reason you're coming out to your church is because you know that there is a social value within your in-group to confession. Yeah. And the bigger thing you confess, the more everybody in your weird forgiveness cult gets to feel good about patting themselves on the back for forgiving you for. So he gets the fucking big attention that he wants and the crowd gets to feel

magnanimous for their forgiveness. I've seen, I've seen it happen in secular groups too, where like there's sort of something that happens between two people and then like one person will say something and then they get head pats on like Facebook and stuff. I think that's fucking weird. Yeah. But yeah, Facebook's a great example. I think it's for the same reason. It's attention seeking. Yeah. I think it's attention seeking. Yeah, sure. So, but then the part of the story that I think is interesting is then the woman, and she's a woman now, but she wasn't then, that he had this affair with says hey that wasn't an affair i like how you said that yeah it wasn't a fucking affair i was 16 they call that was

sexual abuse they call that rape yeah friend yeah and she tells she gets up and she tells her story and her husband is standing there by and her husband knows the whole story too because he was like he was in her life at the time this happened like he was a part he was a peer of hers the time that this abuse happened and she tells the story like yeah you fucking knew about this she took my virginity in your office at 16 at 16 man like again like when you see when you're a grown-ass person you see a 16 year old kid. I know. They are a kid. They look like a kid. That is not a sexually viable part. I'm interviewing graduate students right now

for a position. And they look like little kids to me. They look like, these are graduate students, man. They've already got an undergraduate degree. Yeah. And I would card them if they came in to buy beer.

Yep. What the fuck is wrong with somebody? And the thing is like, he's fucking garbage. He's a fucking rapist. Like, that's what he is. He's a shitty person. He didn't have an affair. No, he manipulated a young person to have sex with him. That's different than having an affair. Right. And he

did this not only as somebody who is older, but as somebody who's in a position of explicit authority and power. Yeah. He didn't have it. Like, his story he told in order to get his fucking forgiveness pats from his fucking audience of sycophants. Why would you tell it

with the person in the audience? Like, if you knew that person was in the fucking audience and you knew you weren't going to get the same kind of head pats after they got done talking, you might think, well, maybe it isn't worth the head pats.

But you know, like I thought the same thing, but it's like, well, I bet he was counting on her staying silent. That's a possibility of that. Because, and to be honest, he probably could have called, in most circumstances, he probably would have been right

because the result was the church didn't embrace her. The church didn't come to her aid and comfort and sucker. No. The church literally forgave him and embraced him. Yeah. For raping a 16-year-old in his office. The fuck is going on?

Yeah, and this is one of those things that, you know, as time goes on on more and more stuff always comes to the surface but in some cases these people are so bold as to tell other people in their midst the trials and hardships they had but the hardships just happen to be them

raping somebody else, somebody who can't consent Un-fucking-believable. Unbelievable. And I think I have a different take on this than a lot of other people, but I really have a problem with the forgiveness mentality. Like, that forgiveness is something that we sort of owed as long as we feel bad about the thing that we did. And Christianity really kind of promotes that.

Sure, sure. And I think as a result, there's a lot less real accountability to the self. Yeah. And there's a lot more sort of like moral latitude that people allow themselves because they know that all they have to do is feel bad about it later. Yeah. I think Christianity's version of forgiveness is terrible. I think forgiveness is a good thing. Right. A genuinely a good virtue. I think forgiveness is a good thing. Right. Genuinely a good virtue. I think it is a good thing. But I don't think

it's a good thing when it's perpetrated by the Catholic Church because with the Catholic Church or not a Catholic, the Christian Church, because their idea of it is all you have to do

is be sorry and you don't even have to be sorry to the person who you did it to. You can just be sorry in general. Right. And you're okay. Yeah, because he wasn't

apologizing to her. No. He was saying like, by confessing, I should be forgiven. I'm okay now. I'm good. And I think that there's a level of this sort of like crowdsourced magnanimity, or whatever that word should be, that's problematic. crowd standing there, they now have this social pressure from one another and from their leader and from their holy book to be a part of this sort of forgiveness parade. And it's like all of that,

all of that is ignoring the fact that you raped a 16-year-old. Sure. And you're not accountable for it. And you never talked to her about it. Right. And nobody is saying, hey, I don't actually give a shit about how you feel because you're a rapist. And in this circumstance, the only person that should have any aid and comfort and sucker should be the woman who is standing here brave enough to say, you know, actually, I was sexually assaulted. Sure. Yeah. It's a fucking problem. Like, it's a really like structurally. I agree. Like forgiveness is a as a peer to peer interaction or as like a person. However, however, it works outside of religion, I think is fine. Yeah. But religiously, it's a fucking nightmare.

It's a nightmare. It's a nightmare because they because it's a crutch. Yes. Yeah. When I was your age, nobody tweeted. We managed to have experiences. You know, phone was attached to a wall back at the house. It didn't have a camera. What are you, Jeff Foxworthy? And a cell phone was the phone you called your pappy on to get you out of jail.

Do, do, do, do, do. This story comes from Yahoo. It also is on Rolling Stone. Trump endorsed her. Now she wants to use state power to crush the left and impose God's moral order. Order. Hold on a second. Let me put this on the screen.

So people who are watching can see this. But man, the people who are at home, this is the most crazy-eyed person I've ever seen. If somebody could like, like it's like

she wants to try to force her skin away from her skull. Right? I'm not wrong. These are the craziest eyes I've ever seen. Seriously crazy eyes. Check the show notes, guys. You have to see this.

It's unlike, you would not, this isn't somebody you would let, you would not let this woman walk your dog. Yeah. You got to read some of this because of her. I will. Jackie Eubanks is running for the Michigan legislature

with a wholehearted endorsement from Donald Trump who calls her an America first patriot. Banning contraception, gay marriage and imposing the Christian moral order on the nation are part of her agenda. Eubanks, a Gen Z conservative who falsely claims Trump won the 2020 election. What's Z? It's after the millennials. So is it after Y? There's no Gen Y, is there? There is a Gen Y.

Is there? Yeah. Millennials are like, millennials are like 41 now. Yeah. Millennials are old now. Yeah. So the-

Enjoy it. Suck it. That's it. Suck it, millennials. That's it. Yeah. And then I think it's Gen- You and I are both X.

We're X. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Gen X is like the generation like nobody's interested in. Nobody cares about. Literally nobody.

It's hilarious. It's so funny. It's like Gen X also didn't care. That's like Gen X's thing. I saw a tweet today that somebody said, it was like, baby boomers,

it's time to pass the torch on to the millennials and Gen Z. You know, join me for this discussion, blah, blah, blah. And then, and then this one person jumps in and says,

hey, what should Gen X do? Asking for several million friends. It's so funny, man. It's so funny. And there was like another article I saw too that said that Gen X was like made for the pandemic. Like,

cause we were all like, like latchkey kids. Like all of us were just like, like left at home. We had all the, we, and like when the pandemic came, we're like,

yeah, man, I can fucking handle this shit. I don't know. Whatever. I don't give a shit. Like whatever. I raised myself.

I raised myself. I will raise my son. I didn't need no fucking help when I was eight. I don't need your goddamn help now. If I had to cook a rat when I was seven, I would cook a rat again. Yeah. It's so funny.

It's like, it's like we, like we seriously grew up in like prison. Like, you know what I mean? Like where you're like a prison kid and like you were like trading your friend, your Mac and cheese for his Doritos.

You know what I mean? Terrifying shit. I, my whole life. It's so funny. Cause if you think about how kids are raised today, I know we're getting off subject, but it's okay. It's fine it's so funny because if you think about how kids are raised today, I know we're getting off subject, but it's okay. But you think about how kids are raised today,

it's so different from how my life growing up. I remember there was a creek that went by my house, behind my house, right? And so like we used to go down and we would play in that creek all day long, like literally all day. We're up to our waist walking in this water playing, catching crawdads, fishing in the creek. And then there's this one part where like you're jumping off. It was, it had to be 20

feet above where we would jump off into maybe four feet of water. We do it all the time. And when you jump, you jump off the top. And, and, and if you're familiar with the area, you know what a locks is. So a lock is a is where old-timey, they would stop the water in the river to make it equal the other side of the river, right? So they have a lox system so boats could go from one to the other. Well, without, like, later on, the lox

doors just get knocked off at a certain point in this one canal that runs through part of Illinois. And so the water just is like, it's like a canal, but it's not super deep. It's only like three or four feet deep. But these locks, they go up like 25 feet up off.

And we would jump off the top of those locks into that four foot of water. And you would always hit the ground. You would smash into the ground. You would smash into the ground. We did it all the time. All the time. We did all this crazy shit. We did it all the time. All the time. We did all this crazy shit.

We used to climb the material service giant grain elevator thing. We used to climb up and sit up and smoke cigarettes on top of that thing. Throw rocks at barges

and shit. We used to do, we used to throw rocks at trains. We used to play in the fucking train tunnel. We did. We were the fucking,

I have no idea how I'm still alive. Did you ever, did you ever like go exploring the storm sewer system in your neighborhood? Yes, absolutely, man. My buddies and I used to,

we used to like, like the culverts. Yeah. We'd like go in the culverts and you would just like walk around and then like you would look up through the grates and try to scare people

that were walking by by yelling. That's the best. And like you would also like, some of you'd be like, I don't, you'd get lost under there. I get lost i feel sense of direction in the above ground world so like i would count on my friends who also had no we're like yeah 10 yeah 11 years old so you'd be like look up through the grade see if you can recognize something house

which is the house they're trying to find your way back we didn't like we figured it out eventually i didn't die under there but yeah yeah. So when we were kids, we were kids, we went up to the, to the grocery store that was like a mile away and we stole a grocery cart. And so we took the grocery cart

down to the I&M canal down by us and underneath Georgia Pacific, which was a giant, a paper company, there was this huge long tunnel where the canal went underneath it. And it had these steps

like little waterfalls that would jump off. And it wasn't super deep under there. It was only like an inch deep. And we called it the Gnarly Mobile. And we fucking

used to ghost ride it. We would run as hard as you can and push it. And it would flip. It would make the loudest sound in the history of mankind.

It sounded like a bomb going off. And it would flip ass ass over tea kettle and sometimes get back on its wheels and shake and bounce into a wall and spin and fall. And we used to have like just we would sit down there, Tom, for hours, pushing as hard, taking turns, pushing as hard as we can in this cart and just smashing it into stuff. Like the little just like the worst children, man. My buddy, I don't know his name. My buddy and I used to take, he would get every once, not that often, once or twice, he got his hands

on like M80s and like quarter sticks. We would roll them in carpenter's glue and then wait for them to get tacky and then roll them in copper BBs. Dude, shut the fuck up. That's a bomb, dude. Then we would light them and throw them in this pond and we called it frog hunting. Anyway, this pond was full of these big bullfrogs.

So we took this thing and made shrapnel. Yikes, dude. And then we would like light it and hurl it into this like pond. Yikes, dude. And we like 17 we are at this point. I remember he had a 16 or 17 because he had a car.

He's a year older than I was. So maybe I'm 16, he's 17. And we thought this was great fun. Like if anything went wrong, I'm dead. I'm so much dead. Yeah, that's a bomb. You literally made a bomb. When we were kids, the lady next door to one of my friends died

and they were cleaning her house out and they had a bunch of, they had a garbage bin out back. And you're, you're a kid, you're a garbage dumper. You jump inside. That's fun. You'll find all kinds of stuff. And they had all kinds of furniture and stuff. They were just throwing in this big dumpster. We come across and one of us opens up a box and inside, you know, those pickle jars, those big pickle jars, the ones that like they have at like food service places. They're like five gallon pickle jars, whatever. We found like seven of them full of fireworks.

Holy shit. It was like manna from heaven and they were old and they were unstable. Like half sticks of dynamite and shit. They were insane. And I remember we'd go down to the, we'd go down to the creek down there and there'd be like a big pool and you would take one of these, you light it and we didn't do the BB thing,

you just throw it in there and it would kill all the fish in there, which is blood and they would just be like, boom! And then like the fish would be like, oh shit. They would just die.

Like you just murder all the fish because you're an asshole kid. I have, I don't even know if the BBs did anything or not, you know, like as we rolled, like I think if I, and I may be wrong BBs did anything or not, you know, like, cause we rolled, like, I think if I, and I may be wrong about this, but I think a lot of those like actually blow

out the top and bottom. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. But we're fucking stew. Nonetheless, it wasn't a safe thing to do. No. And literally nobody knew what you were doing.

You might as well put nails on it and put it in your mouth. Right. Yeah. We also used to take a, uh, my buddy, my buddy used to, uh, drill a hole in a,

uh, uh, tennis ball and we fill it with gasoline and then you light it on fire and then you'd hit it with a golf club into a field. And it would just like, so if you hit it right, it would like trail like a meteor of flaming gas. That's amazing. But also lots could go wrong in a house.

We just like the amount, I literally could tell these stories all day. I could tell these stories all day. All day. Because this is how we were raised. This is how we were raised. We weren't raised. Yeah.

We raised ourselves. We're literally free range kids. Like we did whatever we wanted. I want to, so. Gen Z, get the fuck out of here. So we come back now, it's back to Gen z gen z let's talk about this here gen z yeah so this fucking lunatic um in an interview posted to her campaign facebook

page on thursday she insisted uh she is not a typical politician quote walking in the ways of the wicked and said her campaign is a manifestation of God bringing together a coalition of true conservatives to save this country. Banning contraception, gay marriage, and imposing a Christian moral order. This is an extremist. This is a Christian extremist. This is what this is. That's what it is. That's what we're looking at right now. This is handmaids. This is what they want. And this is all over the country. There's little pockets of this. In Illinois right now. This is Handmaid's. This is what they want, man. And this is all over the country. There's little pockets of this. In Illinois right now, there's a governor race.

The governor race is a black conservative guy who I think is the mayor of Aurora? Aurora. Yeah, so he's your mayor. He's my mayor. But he's a conservative. Yes, he is. And then there's the current governor who's a Democrat, J.B. Pritzker, who nobody's going to primary because he's got,

he's a billionaire and he's literally going to dump billions of dollars into this race. So it doesn't matter. And then there's another guy. And what they, I saw a commercial today where they were, the conservatives are now fighting because one of the conservatives wants to say that the mayor of Aurora, what's his name?

I don't remember. I'm sorry. I don't remember what's his name? I don't remember. I'm sorry. I don't remember his name either because I don't care because I'm not going to vote for him. Literally the same thing. But in any case, the mayor of Aurora,

he said in an email that he hates Trump and he thinks he's stupid. And they're using that as an attack ad for all the Trump voters in America, or in Illinois. And then this guy from Aurora is using an attack ad

for all the people that are anti-Trump to say that's too conservative for Illinois. So now they're fighting. And that's how the fight is playing out. And they're all, I mean, everybody thinks that J.B. Pritzker is way too left. Right. Which he's not. He's so not. He's so not. He's so middle

of the road. But it's like, to them, anything. The Overton window shifts so far with Trump that even people who say they don't like Trump are leftists. Yeah, right. Unless you're standing on an actual balcony with your arm out raised. Yeah.

Which, by the way, Trump did, and also somebody else famous has been, did speeches from balconies with his fucking single arm out. Jesus Christ, dude. You remember when he stood on the balcony with his arm out with the fucking mask

when Trump did that? And you're like, dude, you look like fat Hitler. What are you doing? Are you serious? What are you doing? Get off the balcony.

What are you doing? Yeah, man. But there's a fight now between these ultra rights and these rights. And that's what I want. I want that fight to happen more. I want, I want to be the guy who's, who's feeding that fire. I want that fire to grow. I want them to fight each other. And what I want to win is the people who are less vocal and less

conservative. That's the people who I want to win. Because we already know that side is full of a ton of vocal shitheads. It is. It's full of a bunch of toxic, poisonous assholes. And I hope they just rip themselves apart. Yeah.

I hope they destroy their party and rip themselves in fucking twain and cannot be put back together again. Yeah. That is my genuine and sincerest hope. And there is some mild, mild signs that that might happen based on the Georgia race. Yeah. That's my, that is my genuine and sincerest hope. And there is some mild,

mild signs that that might happen based on the Georgia race. Yeah. Some of the races where Trump had, I mean, Madison Cawthorn

didn't make it. We didn't get a chance to talk about that, but Madison Cawthorn did not make, he didn't win the primary and then he was going to talk about dark MAGA

or whatever afterwards. Yeah, he had a weird dark MAGA thing. I sent it to Cecil and Cecil's like, what a fucking loser. i was like can i say you guys i texted i almost never do this but every once in a while in the middle of the week i'll just find a story and i'll be like the fucking what is it more i just put in our shout outs yeah but i sent it to cecil and cecil just types back he's like fucking loser. Well, the tweet was something like, eh, Madison

Cawthorn is going to bring forth the forces of Dark Maga. And I was like, what a fucking nerd. Get the fuck out of here. And then I was like, no way, man. Dark Maga's really a thing. Look, the definition is this. And he's like, he's still a fucking loser. Yeah, you're right. He's a fucking loser. But it's like, it's one of those

things where... He's got to fuck his cousin's mouth as a private citizen now. No more fucking your cousin's mouth on my dime, Madison Cawthorn. Maybe that's dark manga. Who knows? Oh God,

it's so funny. No, but seriously, like Madison Cawthorn, couple of these other people who have been primaried, they lost, right?

The guy who's fighting against Kemp in Purdue, the guy who lost to Warnock or Ossoff, I don't know one of them. He lost to one of them. I think he lost to Warnock. I don't know, but he's going to lose it because he fucking lost again, you giant loser. And that's a guy who's got Trump right with him. And Trump wanted Georgia real bad. He got butt hurt in this.

He wanted those people to win, and he wanted to see that. But we're seeing this sort of like, it's not the Midas touch that it was four years ago. Hopefully, it collapses in on itself. I hope it does. And now they're talking about, I saw today, there was some talk that the January 6th committee has uncovered some comments that make it seem like Trump was encouraging them to hang pence or whatever. Oh, I saw something like that.

He was approving of the rhetoric or whatever. He was approving of the rhetoric of them chanting. So, like, I don't know what that means, right? You've got to be in that room. And they're getting snippets, but you're not in that room. So, you I don't know what that means. Right. I don't know. You gotta be in that room and they're getting snippets, but we're not, you know, you're not in that room. So you just don't know. But like this, this fucking January 6th thing is the most fucking blue balls. I know fucking thing. Like just fucking let me pop. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Let me go. Let me go. What are you doing? Yeah, man. But in any case, hopefully it's not the Midas touch that it once was. You know what I

mean? Like, hopefully that's the case. And they are coming for your contraception. Yeah. No, we called them. They're coming for your contraception. And they're coming for LGBT. They are. You know, they're coming for those people. They're gonna do this. They're gonna, even though in this unreleased

ruling, it says specifically this isn't what we're doing. They're doing it. They're doing it. And I just, I just going to read one more thing real quick, because they don't want anyone to think that it's like Tom and Cecil making this up. She says, this is a quote from her. She says, we see everything going on with Roe right now. The left becoming completely uncorked, losing their minds. They're saying they're coming after your gay marriage next. They're coming after your birth control. He paused a beat before adding with a smile,

well, you know what? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Birth control. How the fuck are you the party of small government and be like, no, man, birth control. You can't have it anymore.

Could you get a vasectomy in birth? If they can't get birth control then i don't i don't think so i i actually i think i do think you can right because i think that all rights are stripped from women they never take rights away you're right you're right so we want to thank our patrons of course we want to thank all our patrons want to thank our patrons. Of course, we want to thank all our patrons. We want to thank our newest patrons. Clara, Bettina, insert random quote here. Oh my gosh.

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to head on over to patreon.com and become a patron to the show. We genuinely appreciate it. Thank you. So we got several messages, voice messages. We're going to play for you now. Hi, guys. This is Esme, a longtime listener. And I wanted to know if you guys can help me figure out.

I'm driving from Florida to California next week after Memorial Day. And I wanna know if, I wanna stop in Texas and offer anyone who needs an abortion a ride to California. And I'll figure out a way to get them back. I'll pay for a train or plane or whatever ticket to get them home. So I just wanted to ask for your guys' help. Thanks.

Wow. What an amazing thing. Esme. Holy shit, Esme. Esme has been a listener to the show, gosh, for a decade. Seriously. Seriously, a decade. But before we even address the offer, hello, Esme. Hey, Esme.

How you been? Holy shit shit Jesus Christ I have wondered if she was still listening yeah I really have I'm so like it actually warms my heart

to know that Esme's still out there it's great it's great is this show gonna release in time for Esme to help somebody so this show should release on Memorial Day so people will get it

in their podcast players on Memorial Day now it's not gonna it's gonna take more than a day to get there. Yeah. How do we get these messages? I don't know the best way to get somebody in your car,

to be honest with you, because this show releases on Memorial Day, and I don't really have a way to get this to a bunch of people. Esme, we're really uncomfortable playing your phone number. Yeah, I don't want to play your phone number, but here's what I'll do, is if you are in Texas, and you think you need an abortion and you want to get out of Texas and you listen to this show, I can't imagine that our Texas listenership is so big it's going to make a dent. But if you just so happen or you know somebody who might need help

and you hear this on Monday, send us a message and we'll get it to Esme as quick as we can. Yeah. Email it. Esme, I've got your number. I will text you. We'll get it to Esme as quick as we can. Yeah, email it. Esme, I've got your number. I will text you. We'll text it to you. I promise. I'll keep my eye open all day Monday.

I will keep my eye open. And if that's enough time, I don't even know if that's enough time. She says she's driving Memorial Day weekend. Yeah, no, she said she was leaving

after Memorial Day, so she might be leaving on Tuesday. We will try our best. So if you are in Texas and you are in need of an abortion, or you know somebody.

You might have a friend of a friend who might need somebody. Esme's been a listener to this show for such a long time. For a long time. She's probably not a serial killer. Genuinely. Probably not. I am. My heart is warmed knowing that Esme's still listening.

I'm me too. Esme, hello. Hello. That's so cool. That's awesome. All right. So here we go. There's another voicemail we got.

Hey, Tom and Cecil. Long time listener here. First time caller, I suppose. I just found out about this gathering of leftists. It's going to be taking place near Chicago on July 29th through the 31st called the dual power gathering. And I decided'm gonna attend that but um i'm gonna be flying in on the 28th and i've never been to chicago before i'm gonna have kind of that afternoon to do whatever i want so um i guess i just wanted to find out what things do i need to see and do for that um you know it's only gonna be a few hours that i've got to kill so i want to know what do i absolutely need to to see while I'm there? Anyways, thanks guys.

Glory hole motherfuckers. All right. So you want to go down to Millennium Park. Yeah. You want to go down to the lake front from there and you want to go to the museum campus and just look at it because you're not going to get a chance. You're not going to get a chance to go inside anywhere really and get a good search around but you can see all the beautiful uh buildings at museum campus uh and you're amazing which are gorgeous lakes gorgeous down there and you'll get a chance to walk from millennium park which is the

bean to the it's probably about a mile walk maybe about a mile it's not very far but if you get off uh the l uh you're probably going to want to get off there at Madison. And then when you get off, you just walk down over to the Bean, straight across to the lake, and then you can walk the lakefront down, or you can walk through Grant Park, see Buckingham Fountain, walk across the street, and then go down over by the museum campus. And just walk around over there is where I would go. You're probably not gonna be able to get like some food, but if you can, you know,

and you see like a beef joint somewhere, that's a great food to get is, you know, go to a place like a small place where you can get an Italian beef. Look something up ahead of time and see if there's a small place nearby where you're gonna be, where you can get an Italian beef if you want a quick food. It's quick, it's fast, and it's a Chicago standard. And so it's one of those things that you should get when you come here. You can get

a dog anywhere, right? You can get a dog outside of Chicago, but an Italian beef is a Chicago thing and you can't get it anywhere else. I've never had one that tastes as good as what you get in Chicago. So it's its own thing. It's like people who say you can't get a Philly cheesesteak anywhere but Philly or whatever. It's probably the same thing here with Italian beef. I hadn't had one anywhere else in the States that tastes like it. If it's raining,

I don't know, man. I love the cultural center. I have a big like, if it's raining, what should you do? I love the cultural center. Yeah, I say go to Art Institute. I say the Art Institute of Chicago is a beautiful,

if you're into art, Art Institute of Chicago is fucking ball Institute of Chicago is a beautiful, if you're into art, Art Institute of Chicago is fucking baller. It's awesome. If you're not into art, you're into history, go to the Field Museum for a couple hours. Yeah, that's great. You know, Field Museum's killer. There's great stuff to do.

Or just go down, you know, where you want to go. You want to go to either Wicker Park or Logan Square and go to a brew pub there. Oh, that'd be a great time to waste. Have a drink, you know, have a couple of beers. Revolution is a great place to go. You can go to Revolution

and just have a couple beers. Just sit, have a couple beers. They might even have like a beer garden, a shaded beer garden or something you consider. We also got another voicemail. This is the last one. Hey, Tom. Hey, Cecil.

My name is Vicky. I am a longtime listener and I wanted to put in a reminder when you're talking about abortion, that it's not just women that birth children. There's also transgender men and non-binary folks that the conversation needs to include them as well. Absolutely. Tom and I absolutely agree. There's non-binary and transgender men out there that can have children and that are also part of this abortion struggle. A lot of times we'll use shorthand when we talk about stuff like this. We don't always mention everybody involved, but Tom and I also recognize, yes, absolutely. There are non-binary and trans men out there, as well as women who are struggling right now

because of this potential decision. And so we recognize that and we wanted to play that voicemail. Thank you. We got a message from Raymond and Raymond asks, do you guys really need to own a gun? He says, I live in South Africa and there's a real good chance that I could get robbed or there could be really some bad stuff that can happen. And I don't own a gun? You know, he says, I live in South Africa and there's, you know, a real good chance that I could get robbed or there could be really some bad stuff that can happen. And, you know,

I don't own a gun. Like, do you guys really need to, um, you know, perhaps, um, you know, you can start rethinking the narrative on why you own a gun, giving up guns and speaking out against them. Well, maybe would help change that culture more than words from people like you or me who never owned a gun. You know, here's the thing. Like me getting rid of my gun doesn't change anybody's mind. That's not going to change anybody's mind.

Tom and I both though, in a second, if there was a law. Happily, with a great smile. Not even a chance I would keep it. I would be like, no man, I wouldn't even fight it. I'd be like, great.

I will be the first one in line to get rid of everything. I will get rid of everything. Yeah, more than I wouldn't fight it. I'd be like, great. I will be the first one in line to get rid of everything. I will get rid of everything. Yeah. More than I wouldn't fight it. So, so Raymond, thank you for your message. First of all, also, there's a lot of reasons people have guns other than self-defense. I will say, and I've said on the show before, self-defense is a stupid reason. I don't have a gun for self-defense. I don't have a gun for self-defense. I have plenty of guns in my house. None of them are loaded. Yeah. I have, I have guns in my house because I enjoy shooting sporting

clays with Cecil. I think it's a great fun time. We've gone hunting. I've enjoyed that as well. We bought pistols, which are utterly fucking useless for anything other than target practice. I would get rid of my pistol. I would get rid of all of my guns. More than that, though, I would advocate for and strongly support and lobby for a repeal of the Second Amendment and a complete removal of guns from civilian hands. Yeah. I don't worry that my guns personally create any significant danger. I go through what I think are great lengths to keep my guns from being dangerous to the people in my home or my family.

I genuinely think the steps I've taken have kept them very much safe. But tomorrow, not only do I advocate the total abolition of civilian-owned firearms, and I would support the candidates who supported that, I would vote for them, I would lobby for them, I would donate to their campaigns. Those things matter. If I got on this show tomorrow

and I smashed my fucking handgun with a hammer, the listeners who listen to this show already support those positions. They wouldn't care. It's not a... I'd be preaching to a choir that doesn't give a shit. It doesn't matter. That agree with it, but can't...

You know what I mean? It's not going to change their mind. It's not going to change their mind. So, yeah, I get it. And we would advocate for it if it would do anything, but it's not going to do anything. Right. But I'm 100% ready to do any kind of gun reform whatsoever.

We got a lot of messages about the syrup machines. A lot of people sent in diagrams. So many people are interested in this topic. But I just want to say, they've changed these machines, at least the new one. They changed the machine now so that there's a flavor cartridge,

but it pulls high fructose corn syrup from behind a, behind a, like a door. We're going to have to check the maximum weight of this studio. So yeah, no, but seriously, though it still has a big,

one big box of syrup, but that was the main ingredient in that syrup was the high fructose corn syrup. The flavoring thing is small. And so those are small little cartridges and those get changed out. But the fructose corn syrup is like in a 60 or 70 pound box in the back. All I know in my heart is that you've got a birthday coming up. Telling you, man, going to get one of those. Can you just buy one? Can you buy a civilian freestyle machine? Awesome, man. All right. So we got a message. We got a bunch of this from a ton of people. We're going to share Terry's. This is a Glory Hole restaurant.

So enjoy. You can go there and do stuff. I don't know. Eat what makes you happy. We got a message. This is from Martin. And Martin says, I used to love Buck Rogers in the 25th century

with Jill Girard. That's who it was when I was eight years old. Same. And he said, as for this show with the robot dog, I think Cecil is thinking of Battlestar Galactica. Yes. I am.

Buck Rogers, the little robot did the... It was a little half-sized robot did that. And you're right, it had a dog. And now hold on, I want to make this correction though, because I says, and Lee Majors was the $6 million man, not the $7 million. I said he's a $7 million man, but that accounts for inflation.

So we can't. What was the sci-fi TV show where the bad robots had like the blade spinning hands that were forward? Do you know what I'm talking about? It's like pointy, like triangular cylindrical heads and their arms were like angry, chewy fans. I don't remember this.

I don't remember this. I think it might've been Buck Rogers, but Oh, I remember the shit out of V. V scared me when I was a kid. V came out when I was a piece of shit. So I was scared. V is a hundred percent David Icke.

Yeah, man. It's a hundred percent David Icke. It's David Icke. David Icke watched V and then wrote a book about it and people believed it. Oh man, I remember the shit out of V. So I have another correction. I listened to the last episode and then I got to thinking

and I went back and I reread the ending of Liz Estrada. It's not tragic at all at the end. I got Liz Estrada, the ending of Liz Estrada mixed up with a different Greek play. I made a comment about how Greek comedies end in tragedy.

It actually ends in a party. I went back into, so I don't want to be wrong, even though it's a minor pedantic point. But I was thinking about it after I listened to the episode. I was like, did I remember that right? God damn, it's been a long time. It's been like 20 years. Sure. So I went back and I reread

the last however many pages. It ends in a party. It does not end in like sadness at all. I know I said that it did. Sure. I was just wrong. I got it mixed up. But the guy was right that the girls are the ones who. Yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely. Our correction, our initial correction was right. And then I remember I said something like, well, I think it still ends like sadly or tragically or whatever. It's Greek. And I made some like offhanded comment. It doesn't, it ends in a great big party where everybody kind of like realizes. It has sex.

Fighting is fucking stupid. And then they have sex. Right. So. Big, dirty, Greek sex. All right. They're picking up, it's a cantalabras and acorns thing or whatever.

With their buttholes. All right. So that's going to wrap it up for this week. We're hoping to have a guest next week. You know, fingers crossed. You know, sometimes that thing happens. Sometimes it doesn't week we're hoping to have a guest next week you know fingers crossed you know sometimes that thing happens sometimes it doesn't

we're super excited if it happens but anyway check out the YouTube stuff the YouTube stuff's been fun we've been having a good time with it so check it out

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