Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 636: Prays & Sprays

Episode Date: July 4, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of Cognitive Dissonance is brought to you by our patrons. You fucking rock. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. recording live from glory hole studios in chicago and beyond This is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there is no welcome mat. This is episode 636. Yeah. 30 episodes away. 30 episodes away, Tom.
Starting point is 00:01:09 But instead, we decided to go, we pulled the trigger a little early. Just a little early. You know what? I'm known for that. Sometimes we pull the trigger a little early. That's my whole thing. By the time you hear this. By the time you hear this.
Starting point is 00:01:19 We will know we've already done an abortion access fundraiser. Yeah, it's already happened. So we're going to be tomorrow night. We invited the people from Opening Arguments, Scathing Atheist, and Knowledge Fight to join us for a little bit of time. If you're catching this afterwards, you can catch that live stream.
Starting point is 00:01:38 That live stream happened on Friday, so you could catch it on our YouTube page. So obviously, since we last recorded, the world has gotten worse, which is astonishing when you consider just how bad things were before. Right. It's like we had somebody on a couple of months ago talking about SB8. Yeah. And now we're wistfully looking at SB8. Oh, SB8. As if, oh, yeah, you still have abortion access, but you might have to have crushing legality problems for the rest of your life. But you at least had abortion access, right?
Starting point is 00:02:09 You at least had abortion access to six weeks. Some states now it's just a total ban. Total ban. So obviously we're talking about the decision overturning Roe v. Wade, stripping women of their right to choice, relegating women to second-class citizenry. This is an astonishing decision overturning over 50 years of precedent. Nothing like this has ever been done. This is, nothing like this has ever been done.
Starting point is 00:02:38 And we knew this was coming and there's something I want to address before it even happens. Because I've seen this shit online where like people are saying, oh, you knew about this weeks ago. Why are you making such a fuss now? This is not a surprise. So just for anybody that's thinking that, shut the actual fuck up about it. It matters when the rights are taken. It matters when they move from the hypothetical to the actual. There's a possibility
Starting point is 00:03:04 they could have changed their minds. Somebody could have decided, you know what, I'm not going to do this. And up until the moment women's rights were stripped from them, they were not stripped from them. Right. It matters when the actuality happens. It matters when it happens. It's not like a fucking thought experiment for the millions and millions and millions of people who have just been bodily disenfranchised. Sure. and millions and millions of people who have just been bodily disenfranchised.
Starting point is 00:03:29 And also like, you ever go to like, you ever accidentally shut your keys in the car and you're like watching yourself do it? Well, you know what? Like after the door shuts, you're not, not mad because you like knew you were going to do it. You were mad when you, when you, when you, the door left your hand and you're still mad afterwards. Right. So like, just be fucking human enough of that shit
Starting point is 00:03:45 like enough and like enough of the shit where we say well this is really the fault of ruth bader ginsburg or this is the fault of obama or this is the fault it's the fault of the people who took the rights from you yeah that's whose fault it is blame villains for their villainy. Like I have no interest in this bullshit where we beat the shit out of ourselves. We tear up the left. We attack people who are not the ones attacking you. Right. Like I get that the left has a right or has a responsibility, I should say, to defend these rights. And they failed in that responsibility. But the villains are the ones who stole from you those rights. Never take your eye off of that because that's what the right wants. Yeah. Like as soon as you do that, what you've done is you've created a less robust and
Starting point is 00:04:38 less cohesive coalition opposing villainy. Yeah. We need to oppose villainy and we're not doing it. And you know, very important point there is that the Republicans have had this concerted effort for 40 years. Yes. Long game. Since Reagan, right? So since Reagan came in and then really they pushed it into a wedge issue in the 90s. So 10 years after that, Newt Gingrich gets everybody together and says, this is going to be our wedge issue. This is going to be it. And you're talking right now,
Starting point is 00:05:11 that's 30 years in the past. And Reagan, you know, running with the Christian right, that's 10 years before that, 40 years. So you're talking 40 years ago was when they first concertedly started pushing against this right. And they've been doing it for that long. And here's the key. They've been doing it with a minority. Yeah. They've been doing it with a minority of people. There's less people in the country that believe
Starting point is 00:05:36 that this is a necessary thing, that they need to ban it. There's more people who want access to abortion. And there's less people who want abortion outlawed. That's just true. There's more people who want access to abortion. Abortion polls well. There's also fewer Republicans, right? There's fewer Republicans in our country. They have done a good job of solidifying their power base in a couple of different ways. One, they don't ignore local elections. And so when things get kicked down to them, to gerrymander, they do. They're just like, I do,
Starting point is 00:06:09 and I'll fucking gerrymander the fuck out of this. And so they'll disenfranchise plenty of people. But what they also count on is your apathy. They count on you kicking the dirt and saying, well, the Democrats didn't help, so I don't care anymore. This is stupid. They want you to fucking quit.
Starting point is 00:06:24 They want you to stop because you know what? Your apathy means they're going to keep winning with fewer voters. They're going to keep winning over and over and over again. They have fewer people who vote for them and they have fewer people. Like you just look at how it's set up. The, the, the, the Senate is already set up to be set up so that it's red. It's already set up to be red, right? Because there's more states that are just red in general than anything else. So they're going to be red anyway. So those votes are going to go that way.
Starting point is 00:06:56 But then it's also you have that other thing, too, that you have to understand is it doesn't take any effort really to stop things. The government we have is sort of made to slow down. It's made to stop. We have a filibuster in place that's made to slow things down. It's weighted in the conservatives' favor to slow things down because you know what they don't want?
Starting point is 00:07:18 Progress. That's what they don't want. So they're going to stop everything. They're going to keep everything in stasis. And when you bitch about it, you say, well, they always get their way. They don't get their way. What they get is nothing, which is exactly what they wanted anyway, right? They didn't try to push anything.
Starting point is 00:07:32 The only thing they ever do is push budget stuff. They don't push any big bills. Look through this. Look, look at what happens. They don't do it. There's not these big sweeping bills that come through. So you got to understand that the deck is stacked against you, but you can win and you can win if you get out there and you make sure that everybody votes. And, you know, it might take a while. It could be, this is generational at this point,
Starting point is 00:07:53 right? It could take a while, but they kept going with fewer people and they stacked the court. Man, it's, it's like being mad because you're trying to play speed chess and the other guy's playing a long game. Yeah, and it's 100% a long game. And the Republicans have been playing a strategic long-term vision of their – and they've had setbacks and they've had wins, but they don't take their eye off the prize. And we are losing with a majority of the people because we are mad that I tried and it didn't work. And I tried and it didn't work. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:08:27 Or I tried and I didn't do it fast enough. Right. Yeah. If voting didn't work, it wouldn't have mattered that we voted in Trump, right? If voting didn't work, it wouldn't have mattered when they voted in McConnell. Yeah. If voting didn't make a difference, it wouldn't make a difference for the right, but somehow not make a difference for the right, but somehow not make
Starting point is 00:08:45 a difference for the center or the left. And I get that the center is not like most of the people on this show that listen to the show. I get that the center, that is not your politics. I get it. It's not my politics either, but the center isn't the right. And at some point, we do have to make choices and we have to make hard choices that are strategic in nature because these are the choices in front of us. Yeah. And we make the choices that are in front of us. Anything else is like complaining that the game is rigged so you're not going to play. Well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:09:16 The game's still going to go on without you. Yeah. The game's still going to happen. Your disengagement from the process means that everything else you do doesn't fucking matter. As rigged as it is, Trump lost Georgia. Yes. As rigged as it is, Trump lost Georgia. As rigged as it is, as rigged as it is, Ossoff and Warnock both won.
Starting point is 00:09:37 As rigged as it is, that's shutting down black voting stations. That is essentially a, I mean, look at what happened when, when, when Stacey Abrams lost the governorship, that guy who basically ran the fucking show down there was, he was the secretary of state and he like closed a bunch of shit and disenfranchised a ton of voters. And he essentially cheated his way in. But then look, four years later, Stacey Abrams was fucking hitting the bricks and she got that state to turn blue. Not just blue one way, blue three ways. Yep. Three ways, man.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Voting still works. It still fucking works. It still will change things. But people are going to be upset because they want to fix now. There's no fix now. There is no fix now. We blew past. The fix now, actually, I will i will say though the fix now is now
Starting point is 00:10:27 at the state level yeah right because what happened with roe is they kicked this back to the states so now it's now it is the most important fucking thing that you can possibly do to show up at every election and show up at every election and vote blue vote blue vote blue even if you don't like blue it's not red yeah what happens when the reds get in charge is they take away your rights and they take half the population of this country and they stick them back in the fucking kitchen, barefoot and pregnant where they fucking want them. Yeah. That's the, that's their long game and they're winning their long game because we are refusing to properly play. Maybe we have to play harder.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Maybe they're cheating. Maybe I got to score five points for every point they've got to score. Fine. If I have to do that to win, then that's what I got to do to win. It can be done. I can't throw up my hands and say I cannot win because you know where I can get an abortion? In Illinois. Why?
Starting point is 00:11:22 Because the voters in Illinois, despite it being a fucking island of blue in a sea of red. Yeah. Here in Illinois, we can get an abortion. In California, you can get an abortion. In New York, you can get an abortion because they vote blue. They turn those states blue.
Starting point is 00:11:38 We can turn other states blue. We can take back the rights of women in those states. And you just infuriated the group of people who are more likely to vote. Yes. Right? Women are more likely to vote. You just infuriated so many people
Starting point is 00:11:52 who are more likely to vote. Go out and vote. You can win. We've seen it happen. We've seen it happen multiple times in the last election, especially. You know, especially in a time that was so polarized where people who are normally not involved in the electoral process last time on the right were involved because of Trump's, I don't want to call it charisma, but you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Right. They were involved because of Trump's draw. Right. That won't happen in local elections. That won't happen in little places. That might actually be a bad thing come a couple years from, if Trump is put away for some of this stuff. So there's bad, there's some, there's some serious, there's some serious ground to be gained. And, and if you just throw up your hands and you say, well, fine, and then you blame Democrats for this, like you said earlier,
Starting point is 00:12:39 then you're, you're basically just playing in their hands. You're literally doing exactly what you want, what they want. I get, let me just, just so you guys can fucking hear me say it, not send me an email about it. I understand that the left let you down. Yeah. Like they let me down too. They let us all down.
Starting point is 00:12:56 They did not take advantage of the opportunities that they had strategically to prevent this, but they aren't the ones who did it. They are not the ones who did it because they are the ones who failed to prevent it. Like if I hire a security guard to stand in front of my house and somebody gets past my security guard and robs my house, the security guard did not rob my house. The fucking guy who robbed my house did not have to rob the house. The security guard did not rob my house. The fucking guy who robbed my house did not have to rob the house. He chose to do that. The right chose this villainy. They did. We need to name our villains and we need to kick them the fuck out. They need to be kicked out of your fucking
Starting point is 00:13:39 school boards. They need to be kicked out of your fucking county elections, your city elections, your state elections, kick them the fuck off every goddamn seat that you can kick them off of. The only way we're going to get rights back and the only way we're going to look at half the population of this country and say, you are people again, is now a clawback state by state, changing state constitutions, passing local legislation. You change that up, you suddenly start seeing, especially in the Midwest, which right now is just
Starting point is 00:14:12 an island of blue in the sea of red. That's what Illinois is. And like Tom said earlier, that little spot of blue is really just, there's a couple tiny places downstate, but pretty much Chicago. It's Chicago, and most of the rest is blue. There's a little bit of blue
Starting point is 00:14:27 in some of the university places in the state, but they're small in comparison. Small city centers in comparison to Chicago. So that's where the red, that's where the blue is. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:14:38 it's a huge sea of blue or a huge sea of red around us. But you know what you can do? We could change. There's other places around us that are, you know, they could easily be, Wisconsin could easily go either way. Michigan could easily be more blue, you know, and Michigan itself, they, they, they are blue enough to stop some of the stuff that's been there. So, and Wisconsin, it's up in the air. What's going to
Starting point is 00:14:58 happen in Wisconsin? Your, your other choice. And I, and I really mean this, is to look yourself in the mirror and say, I'm not up to the task. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. You either get out and fucking vote. Because it doesn't matter if you protest and you don't vote. Nobody cares.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Yeah. The politicians don't give a fuck. Yeah. Like, we all know it. Yeah. Like, if you're not, I remember, like, I remember at an airport, Mitch McConnell was accosted at an airport like this year, maybe last year. And somebody was giving him shit in the airport. And he looked at him and said, where do you live?
Starting point is 00:15:32 Are you from Kentucky? And they weren't from Kentucky. And he's like, I don't fucking care. Yeah. Cause they can't vote for him. Yeah. So like him pissing off somebody that can't vote for him means nothing to him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:43 It means nothing. Cause your vote is the only thing that matters. It still doesn't matter. The people in that area don't matter unless they get in enough force to vote him out. Right. That's the only time it matters. So, like, be up to the task.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Yeah. Like, that's the thing that we have to do now to protect the people in our lives that need to be protected. Maybe that's you. Maybe that's someone you love. Maybe that's you. Maybe that's someone you love. Maybe that's just a fucking demographic of human beings that need to be treated like human beings. But like this naysaying bullshit does not help. It cannot stand.
Starting point is 00:16:17 It cannot. I just, I can't deal with it. Yeah. Because all it does is just pour water on the fire. It just splits. It splits everything. Pours water on the fire. It just splits. It splits everything. Pours water on the fire? It puts everything out.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah. There's no energy in the system. I was like, wait. Isn't that what you want? No. We should be on fire. We should be mad. You should put a fire out.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Don't you want to? Mr. Metaphor. I was like, wait a second. Maybe it was a bad metaphor. I don't know. Hold on a minute. Maybe the other way around. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:44 You know what I mean. I genuinely was, this week there's, you know, the protest hit and I'm happy for that. I want to see that, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:52 That shows that people are, are engaged in the process, right? And, and I want to see that all the way up until the election. You know what I mean? Like, don't stop. That's what happened last year,
Starting point is 00:17:01 you know, or two years ago. It's last year, Jesus. Everything bleeds together. Two years ago with, with George Floyd, when that happened, there was protests all year. They just kept going. They kept going. I want to see these keep going. Just keep them going. Yeah, man. Let the midterms be a referendum on the theft of your rights. It's not just one thing either.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Oh my God. The Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court, Clarence Thomas is not stopping at this. He's coming for it all. He is coming for it all. He wants to get rid of any gay marriage that's out there. He wants to get rid of contraception. There's so many things he wants to do. He wants to have churches be able to sue people for libel and all kinds of stuff. If we get, imagine a court where Clarence Thomas is the chief justice.
Starting point is 00:17:51 The driver. Imagine a court with more Clarence Thomas ideologues. He has now become, it's so crazy because this is the craziest thing I'm ever going to say out loud, I hope. This is Clarence Thomas's moment. Yeah. He was a guy who previously
Starting point is 00:18:09 was famous for never fucking saying anything. Clarence Thomas was famous for barely asking any questions. He was essentially very silent. And when the courts were not fucking 6-3 full of these ideological bullies that are taking your goddamn rights away from you like but now all of a sudden he's not so fucking quiet anymore yeah now all of a sudden he's got a vision for america that does not include you yeah that just whoever you are
Starting point is 00:18:41 listener it does not include you like he wants to take away your right. Like Cecil said, he's talking about overturning Lawrence, Griswold, and Oberfeld. He wants them all reconsidered. He wants any right not specifically enumerated to be stripped from you. They got away with this one. Yeah. And so once they got away with this one, now they're just like, cool, man, everything's on the table. It's a massive domino.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Everything's on the table. And so that means, that means anything. And that means that you need protections in the legislative branch. And that means that, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:11 and do not, do not misunderstand. You, you, you take your ball and go home now. Watch what happens if they get a majority
Starting point is 00:19:19 in both houses. Oh yeah? Watch what happens. Watch what happens because I guarantee they blow that filibuster. I guarantee they blow it up and make it illegal across the country.
Starting point is 00:19:29 I guarantee they do it. Filibuster's gone. They'll just be detonated. The first chance they get. If they... Now, they won't do anything because there's somebody there who can veto it, I guess. So, like, and then they'll just have to wait.
Starting point is 00:19:42 But, I mean, imagine if they get all three houses. Yeah. Imagine if the right gets all three houses, you like, it cannot stand. It cannot be allowed to stand. At this point now, now you're talking about it gone forever.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Yeah. And think about the other thing that we don't have now. We had 50 years of precedent establishing a right to privacy, a right to a type of an expanded right to privacy that included medical privacy, but included many other types of privacy. The right of privacy extended to your ability to choose who you love,
Starting point is 00:20:17 choose how to start a family, when to start a family. I read a, and I know this is like a little hyperbolic and I don't mean for it to be, but imagine a world where you don't have a right to privacy. That's today now. You don't have a right to privacy. That's what they, they didn't say you don't have a right to this one specific privacy. The right to, what they said in that decision is nowhere in the constitution is a right to privacy explicitly laid out. Therefore it doesn't exist the the the roe decision was badly decided you don't have a right to privacy which means that like all that
Starting point is 00:20:52 crazy shit that you read about going on in like china where the federal government is surveilling and face wrecking yeah there there's literally no reason that that's not possible in the States because you don't have a right to your privacy. You don't have a right to like, and I read an article today in the Times, law enforcement can subpoena your medical records. Law enforcement can subpoena your financial records to find out if you've had an abortion. You don't have a right to privacy. That doesn't exist anymore. This is an overreach of federal power. By stripping you of your right to privacy, we've given this thing away that is one of the only things that really protects our essential liberty, our individuality, our right to exist in a free society. A society cannot
Starting point is 00:21:47 be free without a right to privacy. And we don't have it anymore. And Roe is a goddamn tragedy. And it is a horror. And I don't want to minimize that. But there are so many other horrors that fall by necessity immediately behind it. It leads to other stuff that can be just as horrifying for so many different groups of people. Yeah. That, you know, you're going to run into some serious issues. I mean, and the long shot stuff that they're talking about trying to do, I don't think you're going to do. You know, you have two people on the, you have two non-anti-filibuster senators right now. Right. They're in,
Starting point is 00:22:28 I don't know if I said that correctly. I might have just did a double negative and I actually said they're positive. I don't know. But in any case, they don't want to do the filibuster. They're not going to break it. So they're not going to do it. So you cannot get around those two right now. You have to vote in more people to make them irrelevant. That's how it has to happen because I don't think they're up
Starting point is 00:22:44 for election right now. So you essentially have to vote around them. Right. And that would mean that you would have to win everything that you possibly can. And that might not happen, but you've got to try, right? Because if you can, then maybe they blow up the filibuster if they can. And then they say, no, it's a right now. Yeah. No. Okay, fine. There's no Roe. That's cool. We're just going to make it a, it's now you're allowed to get an abortion anywhere in the country. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:09 If we get angry enough and we mobilize and we stay as a concerted force, we can. It is possible. It really is. The numbers are there.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Yeah. It is possible. Perfectly possible. To like fix this problem. Yeah. I, if I have very little hope that we will do that. Yeah. I have very, very little hope that we will do that.
Starting point is 00:23:32 The best thing that you can do is to vote every single time anybody will let you stand in a fucking line. Yeah. If there's a polling place, your ass should be at that polling place. You should be clicking and chatting and marking and fucking punching shit all the time. It can change. It can change.
Starting point is 00:23:49 And all you need to know for the proof is watch the Republicans from the 90s till now. Yeah, man. It can change by voting. That's what they did. That's my third amendment.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Right. I take the third all the time. Every day. And then if somebody tries to call me on it, they go, what is the third? That's when I take the third all the time every day and then if somebody tries to call me on it they go what is the third that's when i take the fifth
Starting point is 00:24:09 so this story comes from dead state nick fuentes scotus reversal of roe versus wade is like having taliban rule in a good way do we want to watch it? Yeah, man. It's just, this is so much. We just got to listen. Nick Fuentes, if you guys don't remember, he's the one that made the joke about like, maybe Hitler got it right. Oh, I shouldn't say that. Oh, I shouldn't say that.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I think MTG spoke at his evil conferences of super bigots or whatever the fuck he called it. Yeah. Bigot Con, I think. Bigot Con, yeah. Bigot Con or whatever the fuck he called it yeah like it con i think it's on yeah mythicist milwaukee all right we're gonna play this the supreme court has a blueprint to revisit all those decisions and say guess what it's not in there so that means that banning gay marriage is back on the menu banning sodomy is back on the menu. Banning contraceptives is back on the menu.
Starting point is 00:25:16 And basically, we're having something like Taliban rule in America in a good way. We're having something like a Catholic Taliban rule in America. You know why he wants to ban sodomy? Because nobody will blow him. He is like, he is so sour grapes that he wants, he wants sodomy banned because nobody will blow Nick Fuentes.
Starting point is 00:25:36 What the fuck? Why would you be excited about that? Like what is in your life that makes you excited that something, like all the things you said are none of your business. Every single thing you just said is none of your fucking business. And you're just like, yeah, man, you're not involved in any of those relationships.
Starting point is 00:25:54 You're not involved in any of that. So what the fuck do you care so much? And it's only because you want to control people and you want to hurt people you don't like. That's all it is. That's it. and you want to hurt people you don't like. That's all it is. That's it.
Starting point is 00:26:08 It's not even something where you can create some kind of moral justification for it. Some like bullshit, thoughtless, moral, like abortion, for example. I think that there are opponents that have a strong morally held view. I think it's a deeply incorrect and inaccurate, illogical and unscientific view, but they have a view that
Starting point is 00:26:26 a fetus is a living thing and they equate the death of that living human thing to murder. I can understand the logic. I think they're deeply wrong. No, they just don't understand the process. They don't understand the process. They think a bloody nose is essentially a person. Right. They're
Starting point is 00:26:43 wrong because I think they're just misinformed and intellectually lazy and they don't understand the science. But fine. But at least you can understand what I'm saying. But when it comes to like who gets to fuck who or who gets to love who or marry who, there's literally no moral behind that. Yeah, you can't get there. That's it. As long as everybody canents, who fucking cares? The only thing,
Starting point is 00:27:06 the only way you can get there is by demonizing that side to say, yeah, they're not just wanting to get with each other. They want to groom children. Right. Right. Because you notice that their fight
Starting point is 00:27:16 against the LGBT crowd now is not about they shouldn't be together. It's that they're grooming children. That's what they're saying. So they can't just even rely on the- Because nobody buys it. Because nobody anymore. Everybody anymore is like,
Starting point is 00:27:30 well, it's none of your fucking business, man. Right, yeah. But instead, now they've got to say, well, yeah, but I don't, they can do whatever they want, but they're also grooming children, which is also a fucking gigantic, it's the dumbest shit.
Starting point is 00:27:42 And they've been talking about this for decades. They've been saying the same thing. They intentionally relieve the conversation of the essential component of consent. Yeah. Every time they have their liars conversations. Because it's not a morally or legally difficult concept. Sure. To be like, yeah, two adults that want to consent can have,
Starting point is 00:28:06 or seven adults. Any number of consenting adults can fuck in any direction or whatever they want to fuck in. Whatever they want to do. Literally does not matter. And then they're like, well, what if it's kids?
Starting point is 00:28:18 It's like, you're not hearing the words. Nobody said kids, man. You're purposely making a different consent. What if it's dogs? Is that a consenting adult? When did you bring a dog into this?
Starting point is 00:28:29 Nobody said that. Every time, all they can do is create a straw man. What if it's a coffee pot? I don't care. It's a coffee pot. Who cares? Whatever, man. Fuck a coffee pot. You'll be on that TLC show. I fucked a coffee pot or whatever. I fucked a coffee pot. That'd be a great show.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I'd watch that every week. I fucked a coffee pot. Are you kidding me right now? Holy shit, TLC. This is a moneymaker. This is a TLC. Look at me. Look at me right now.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I fucked a coffee pot right after I ate a couch. You got to put it on the air. You got to do it right afterwards. There's a guy with a mouthful of couch. Fuck it. It's coffee. They fucking, you have a crossover. Come on. Foreign girls.
Starting point is 00:29:10 I fuck a French press. It's a Menage a Trois. You know, I thought I'd spice it up. I got Mr. Coffee in here now. You know what? I'm a bit of a, I'm a bit of a bun guy.
Starting point is 00:29:23 If you know what I mean, it's time for the percolator. You know what? I'm a bit of a bun guy, if you know what I mean. It's time for the percolator. That's amazing. That is banned in 36 states. God, that's amazing. Yeah. The fuck is wrong?
Starting point is 00:29:38 It's like the Taliban, but good. I know. You can't, nothing can be like the Taliban, but good. I know, right? That doesn't... What? And one thing I wonder, though, is like, why wouldn't he think the Taliban is good? Well, yeah, he thinks the Taliban is... What he's saying here is he thinks the Taliban is great.
Starting point is 00:29:57 They just got some essential questions wrong. Yeah, I mean, all they did was just... They're using the wrong book. Yeah, I mean, they're using the wrong book because what he wants is essentially what they do, which is subjugation of a large group of people and they're like, he wants Christian charades instead of his own charades. Yeah, he essentially wants that.
Starting point is 00:30:13 And that is fucking, it's fucking terrifying that people like him are influential on the right. Yeah, I know, man. The Overton window has shifted so fucking far man we're like the dangerous leftists i yeah you and i what i like i don't even get it i don't think i'm radically left yeah i am not radically left but these fucking people like i'm just like i don't
Starting point is 00:30:40 care who people fuck whoa yeah This guy should not be dismissed. He had a conference with thousands of attendees, including Congress people. Two, Gosar and MTG. Yeah. And MTG is a powerful, she's a fucking numbskull, but she's a powerful political figure. She should not be dismissed. She is igniting that side behind her stupidity and her actions. And that literally is, she is Trump in a woman's skin.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yes. Yeah, absolutely. I think there's a temptation to be dismissive because I think for folks like you and I that have been around for 525 years, like we remember Sarah Palin. Yeah. And Sarah Palin was not a serious, not somebody to take seriously. She was not terribly bright.
Starting point is 00:31:35 She did not have any interesting ideas. She made all kinds of silly gaffes. She just wasn't a, and so there was like a farcical element to Sarah Palin that didn't feel like, other than... And so there was like a farcical element to Sarah Palin that didn't feel like, other than the fact that she was like one heartbeat away from the presidency
Starting point is 00:31:50 if McCain had won. McCain went, yeah. You know? But things are different now. Like the MTGs and the Boeberts and the... These are not Sarah Palins. They're not. Because Sarah Palin wasn't really taken
Starting point is 00:32:04 all that seriously by anybody. She was kind of a joke Palin wasn't really taken all that seriously by anybody. She was kind of a joke. She wasn't galvanizing that side. Right. Yes, exactly. God, no. Yes. I'm not going to sell you this gun.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I have rights to, you know, or maybe haven't heard of the Sixth Amendment. The right to a speedy and public trial? This story comes from the Hill. Kinzinger hits back at Boebert's church and state remarks. We must oppose the Christian Taliban. Kinzinger is a Republican. He sits on the house select committee, the January 6th house select committee. Um, yeah, he's a, he's an Illinois guy up in Iraq. I will say this. I will say this, like of all the people who have come across as Republican recently, he seems to be one of the ones that when you hear him talk,
Starting point is 00:32:48 I sure, I probably don't agree with him on almost anything, but I at least feel like he isn't one of these so far right, crazy Republicans that I don't think I could have that conversation. Yeah. I, I, I get the same feeling and I,
Starting point is 00:33:03 I don't know if that's primarily because he's on the House Select Committee, and I'm obviously interested in pursuing justice on that angle. But this comment too, though. But this comment too. So I want to read exactly what was said. All right. So Boebert said in his speech at the Cornerstone Christian Center in Basalt, Colorado, that she is tired of the principle,
Starting point is 00:33:29 talking about separation of church and state, and falsely claimed that the founding fathers did not intend to keep religion separate from government. Kinzinger condemned Boebert's comments and compared them to the views of the Taliban. There is no difference between this and the Taliban, he says. We must oppose the Christian Taliban. I say this as a Christian. Boebert said that the separation between church and state was junk and she doesn't care about some old letter specifically referring to the letter to the bishop. Aren't these people originalists that like love? I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:33:56 They're so liaralists. Oh God. They are all liaralists. Yeah, they pick and choose. It's just like their Bible. Yes. It's literally just like their Bible. They pick and choose what they want to beat you with.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Yes. And what they want to beat you with is, Jefferson never wrote that one. Right. I fucking hate this the same way I hate the Amish. Yeah. Like, the Amish are a fucking ridiculous fucking cult full of all... The Amish are problematic.
Starting point is 00:34:21 And like, I don't care how much you like their butter and their fucking furniture. They're problematic and you should have a problem with them. What, their eggs? I get their eggs. Are they good eggs? They're really good. Are they? So here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Tell me about their eggs. The eggs, I open up the thing and they don't have the same sizing as the, like the major ones. Yeah, it's like a production center. So they,
Starting point is 00:34:39 there's just, some of them are small, some of them are big. There was four big ones. And so I said, okay, well, I'm making breakfast. I'll get the four big ones. Every single one was a double yoker. Whoa!
Starting point is 00:34:50 Every single one. I felt like I hit the jackpot. I have never gotten a double yoker. Four double yokers in a row. Four double yokers? I don't know, man. I guess that... What is happening over there?
Starting point is 00:35:00 Maybe that hen got DP'd. I don't know. But man, let me tell you, there's four double yokers right there for you. Man. That's how they make double yokers, by the way. Ask your dad about it. Don't tell your dad.
Starting point is 00:35:13 What I hate about the originalists is they're not originalists. They're just like the Amish. The Amish look back at a certain point in time, arbitrarily selected, and they're like, yep, that's where we stop time. And the originalists do the same thing. And you know they do the same thing because they
Starting point is 00:35:27 don't want to take the rights, they don't want to strip away the 19th Amendment. The fucking framers didn't fucking imagine the goddamn 19th Amendment. It took fucking a hundred and however many years. Nobody is talking at least out loud they are doing the work
Starting point is 00:35:44 on the side, but they are not talking out loud about stripping the rights of people of color to be able to vote. Right. They're doing that work by gerrymander. They're doing that work by voting block, cock blocking voting and all these different. So I'm not suggesting that they're not doing that work. But my point is that they're not originalists.
Starting point is 00:36:02 They're not going back. You know, if you want to be a super fucking originalist, then we got 10 fucking amendments and that's it. Yeah. That's it. That's what they've, that's where they's left off. If you're going to fucking blow each of the founding fathers in a fucking row until you're fucking gargling on the fucking 10th amendment, then fucking do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Then fucking do it. Yeah. But like, if that's not your jam, recognize like they built a document and they built it with a functionality designed to allow it to change. Yeah. Like if it was all self-evident, you wouldn't need a Supreme Court. Yeah. Right? What is the Supreme Court's job is to decide about the constitutionality of things.
Starting point is 00:36:41 If the constitution was just this self-evidentiary text, what the fuck do I need nine people telling me how to read for? I don't need nine people. I'm paying 400 grand a year. Right. We can spend that money other places. That originalism shit is lying. It's lying. For sure. And she's one of these people though that will do this sort of thing because she knows it gets the go to the people who don't like her. So she does all this stuff and says all this stuff because she wants to be a provocateur. She is Ann Coulter who got elected.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Yeah, right. I mean, not as smart, but still. It's so funny because like, even Ann Coulter over the last several years is like, I got to back off of this shit. Yeah. Like, when Ann Coulter, when fucking Queen Skeletor is like, y gotta back off of this shit. Yeah. Like, when Ann Coulter, when fucking Queen
Starting point is 00:37:26 Skeletor is like, y'all have lost the thread. Yeah. You've lost the thread! You've lost the thread, for sure. Wait, looky here. Seems there's been a prohibition law on the books in Springfield for 200 years. Get out of here,
Starting point is 00:37:42 old clerk guy. There's also a law requiring ducks to wear long pants. Wait a minute. Let me see that. Well, I'll be darned long pants. This story comes from Rolling Stone. Herbal abortions are going viral on TikTok. They could kill you. Tom, this is a kind of disturbing story about a lot of new creators, about a lot of new creators, young creators, putting together little videos that push natural, quote unquote natural, because they're herbs and sort of teas and things
Starting point is 00:38:13 to help induce abortion. But abortion doctors all say, this is very dangerous. You should probably not ever do this stuff that they're suggesting. The stuff that they're suggesting is coming from the right place. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Abortion access for a lot of the country has just been removed. You know, we're talking about how many States is it where there was instant laws, where they just were nine States. I think we're just overnight. And now there's, it's not, it doesn't exist anymore.
Starting point is 00:38:43 And then in other places, they're going to be fighting against it and they're probably going to get it taken away in many different states. You could wind up with as many as 30 states across our country where there is not abortion access like there should be. And so these creators on TikTok probably see this as a way to say, hey, I'm going to make something to try to help, but they're not doctors. They're not researchers. They have no idea that this stuff works. They might've read it somewhere that it was an ancient thing, but we have way better ways to handle this sort of thing nowadays and way better, more safer ways for people to do this sort of thing. And so you shouldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:39:22 And in fact, some of the stuff that they're suggesting, you can get like liver toxicity and have real serious problems after the fact. And instead you should probably just go to one of these overnight abortion care pill places and things like that instead. Yeah, so again, to Cecil's point, all the sympathy in the world goes out to the people who are
Starting point is 00:39:44 in a desperate set of circumstances in a state where they don't have any idea how to access care now that the state has decided that they are not people deserving of rights. I fucking get that completely, but man, TikTok needs to shut this shit down. TikTok has a responsibility to say, Hey, you know what? No making videos, encouraging people to drink penny royalty or like any of the rest of this shit. Mugwort.
Starting point is 00:40:13 And there's another one like better fucking blue Lagoon or some shit. I forgot what it was called. Yeah. But like, because none of these people are not doctors. They don't know how it works. People could die of liver, like your point,
Starting point is 00:40:24 liver necrosis, heart attacks, fucking, like, this is dangerous shit. This is really dangerous shit. This is exactly why you don't outlaw abortion. You force people who are desperate to make quick decisions with limited information that put them at terrible, terrible risk. Yeah, for sure. And we can't put the onus, and I know you're not,
Starting point is 00:40:47 we cannot put the onus on people who are desperate to sort through this information. The people who need to have the onus of responsibility is the fucking platform. TikTok, and they won't, but TikTok needs to get on the fucking ball here, but they didn't do it for the ivermectin thing. They will not do it now.
Starting point is 00:41:09 TikTok is, I was just telling you, TikTok is Chinese spyware. The company that owns it is like ByteRight or something like that. It's a fucking Beijing company. And the FCC this week came out and called TikTok a national security threat. So they don't have an interest in your well-being.
Starting point is 00:41:26 They don't care about you. They have an interest actually in not your well-being because it is fucking Chinese spyware. So you can't rely on TikTok to do this. So we have to be more influential than those influencers. We've got to have a message. And what we really need to do is make sure that women can order pills from places like Aid Access and have them shipped to them because those pills fucking work and they don't poison
Starting point is 00:41:53 your liver. Yeah. And in this article, there's a point that is, I think, really well taken. One of the doctors says, before when women had to do things like this before there was abortion access in our country on a wide level there was some sort of filter for people to get that information right there wasn't a way for women to get that information that was somewhat filtered somewhat editorializedized, somewhat, there was somebody there who had editorial control and wasn't just saying something
Starting point is 00:42:27 because that someone will click on it. Right. And that's the real problem with what TikTok's doing is the number of up-dudes doesn't make it more true. Right. Right? The number of people who like it or share it or hug it or whatever the fuck doesn't make it more true.
Starting point is 00:42:44 It just means that somebody saw it. Maybe they saw the slick production of it and they said, oh, I'll share this because, hey, who knows? Right. Yeah. And if we don't get this message out, then there's nothing discouraging anybody
Starting point is 00:42:59 from turning their fucking phone camera on and making a fucking video called here's how to fucking drink pine salt until you have an abortion yeah man you know yeah it's it's going to happen this is gonna this is gonna kill women yeah this is the beginning this is how long did it take exactly how long did it take a day it's not been yeah two days a handful and there i guarantee that there are going to be desperate people who turn to TikTok for other types of information because there is good information on TikTok. The problem is the filter is non-existent.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And so all of that work now falls on people who are scared and desperate. And that is a tragic place to put that onus of responsibility. You're absolutely right. The killing has already started. It has. The killing has already started and it will continue. The killing will continue all the way until this gets rectified. You're a sophomore who realized that this amendment, which was introduced in 1789, was still available to be ratified. Yes. March of 1982, during spring break. During spring break. When I'm at the wet t-shirt contest in Cancun, you're realizing that the amendment can still be ratified in the U.S. Constitution. Yes, yes. This story comes from CNN Politics. Supreme Court further erodes the separation between church and state in case of praying football coach. This story keeps being framed the wrong way. And so I just want to frame it the right way before
Starting point is 00:44:20 I turn it over to you. But when you read a lot of the stories about this, they talk about this coach as if he is praying and the case that is being decided is whether or not he should be able to pray. That is not what is happening. It is not what has happened. He is leading his players, his students, in prayer. There is a difference.
Starting point is 00:44:45 He's always been able to pray. Like, praying is always... Everybody's always been able to pray. The issue at hand was whether he was leading students in prayer. Yeah. And he was also their fucking coach who decides whether they play or don't play. It's important.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Whether they make the team or don't make the team. Get a recommendation from him. Right. Next week, there's going to be scouts watching and you want to fucking play? We're going to be on TV next week. Right. When I was in high school,
Starting point is 00:45:14 there was a kid on our high school team who actually went on to the NFL eventually. Oh, okay. But back in high school, he was a monster. He's one of those guys that It's just an absolute monster. You could tell he's playing so far above the level of everybody else. And he was on offense and defense on our team. He was that good where he would,
Starting point is 00:45:33 he was a running back and then he was also a linebacker. So he would play the whole game. He was out there. He just, you know, change, maybe change. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:45:40 He throws the ball to himself. I don't even know. I remember, I remember. He's like, Sherry's got so many outfit changes. You know. He's got shirts and skin, bitches.
Starting point is 00:45:47 He's got to stand behind a big Gatorade towel and change real quick. But, but they, they actually came to film. ESPN came to film at our thing. That's cool. To show, right? But that's the thing though. What if they're praying beforehand
Starting point is 00:46:00 and you're, you know, maybe the star linebacker or, you know, somebody who wants to be shown and you're, you know, maybe the star linebacker or, you know, somebody who wants to be shown and you're not participating in them. What if you get sat down on the TV game? Yep. What if they sit you down? Because you're, you know, maybe you're not the star star, but you're like the guy who, you know, might get seen then. What if you get sit down, like you said, when the scouts come, what happens then? Yep. And that's a real issue. It's a real problem. And these people have real power over these students and the students' future lives. And so for them to say that the prayer is literally just him is stupid and asinine. But another point too, Tom, is that they wound up
Starting point is 00:46:41 giving this guy a place to do it. They even went out of their way, the school went out of their way and said, look, we don't want you to do this in front of everybody in the middle of the field like you were doing. Here's this small room. If you want to go lead people in prayer, here's a private place to do it. You can go do it. But he wanted the spectacle. He wanted to do it in front of everybody. And then he had his little interview and then left because he got a bad review. And he was like, well, fuck it, I'm going to leave. And then he sued instead and he wound up winning. And the Supreme Court completely fucking botches this one.
Starting point is 00:47:17 So bad. They fucking fucked this up so bad. They essentially, like Kagan essentially says in her response, she says, no, fucking, they didn't even understand the situation. They literally didn't understand the situation. They fucked the situation up so bad. They basically made it up so that they could make this ruling.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Right, yeah. They made up the circumstances. It's exactly right. They wanted this outcome. Yeah. And they invented an entire set of circumstances, which literally did not happen that way.
Starting point is 00:47:46 Didn't happen. In order to rule on, in order to achieve a ruling which now basically completely eliminates the separation of church and state of school. Not a coach could go back
Starting point is 00:47:58 and get his job. Right. This is why This is Dobbenmeier's fucking thing. This is not a coach. It's justified today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:04 I didn't think I'd live to see a day where not a coach would be justified. What about if he becomes a coach? It's going to ruin the whole gag. It's going to ruin the whole bit. We'll have to call him not a coach, coach. Coach, not a coach. Coach, not a coach, coach.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Coach, not a coach. The thing is, leading students in prayer as a teacher or a coach, it's inherently coercive. Yes. It is. You can't get around that. And you know that it's inherently coercive.
Starting point is 00:48:31 And here's how you know that. If you had a senior in high school who was 18 years old, and you were a teacher, and you were 22 years old, you couldn't fuck them. Right. And you couldn't fuck them even Right. And you couldn't fuck them, even though they're of legal age. You couldn't fuck them because there's an inherently in equal power dynamic power there. It is coercive. We know that the power that teachers have is a coercive power. If it is wielded improperly, they don't give a fuck because they want a Christian Taliban.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Yeah. That's what they want. And every single one of them, like, every single one of these things, too, if you look at it, it's all 6-3.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah, man. It's all 6-3. They're dunking all day. Roberts was only on the fence occasionally for anything before. Now he's just like,
Starting point is 00:49:23 whatever. He's just like, all right, fine. I don't care. Whatever. Yep. True colors shining through yep too broad i submit sir that this amendment goes too far it gives to the federal congress unnecessary uncalled for and unlimited jurisdiction over the upbringing of our children if the proponents of this child labor amendment, sir, are sincere in their objectives, then I ask them to tell your house today, sir,
Starting point is 00:49:55 why they have repeatedly refused to insert into the proposed amendment the single word gainful. the single word gainful. This story comes from ABC11, let's call that number. Two North Carolina workers fired for not joining company's daily Christian devotionals. Yeah. That's exactly what we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Yeah, power dynamics. Power dynamics matter. This essentially was a company that started out having like a daily prayer and then the prayer started turning into like a prayer circle where it just, it started turning into a longer and longer time. And one of the workers there was an atheist
Starting point is 00:50:32 and eventually said, I don't want to do this. Right. I would like to not do this. Can I just not do this? Can I just be here for your initial prayer and not for the talky talky afterward or whatever? And they said, no, you got to be here for it. This is interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:50:47 If there was any intellectual honesty at all, then it would seem to me that the same thing that protects your ability to pray protects your ability to refuse to pray, right? If I'm an atheist, my deeply held religious conviction is that prayer is not something I have to engage in or believe in. But we don't live in that world of parity and logic and meaning and reason.
Starting point is 00:51:16 We live in a world where decisions are made by the justices who make these choices for us in ways that coincide with their preferential religious beliefs. Yeah. I have very little doubt that some that because otherwise anybody would just be like, yeah, I don't have to do that. I'm an atheist, like an atheist, literally just by definition, I don't have to engage in any religion. I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell
Starting point is 00:51:45 of a ruling having parity the same way that a religious ruling would have parity. I think you're right. And I think it's because if you did, the fragileness of the Christian would be exposed. They're too fragile. They don't want to hear anybody ever say their thing doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:52:02 No. They don't want to hear that. This is going to set up a showdown. Well, it should set up a showdown where the right of the first amendment right of the employer to practice their religion at work is then pitted against the first amendment right of the employee to practice their religion. And an atheist not praying is a practice of atheism. Sure. I would think. But I fucking guarantee that they,
Starting point is 00:52:30 I mean, just, because we know it. Because we've seen Hobby Lobby. We've seen so many other cases where the Christian religious principle of prayer and the ability to set up a Christian corporation,
Starting point is 00:52:46 which is a weird fucking concept. Not a church, but a Christian corporation. It essentially, yeah, it just wins. You can't, you won't be able to get life-saving medical care in certain cases. There are already hospitals that like, if they're Catholic hospitals, they just don't perform certain procedures. They're just like, yeah, we just don't do that here. And you're like, but you're the only hospital around. And they're just like, hey, let fucking shrug. You know what I mean? So you mentioned the Corwin Amendment.
Starting point is 00:53:11 I'm glad you did. That was basically the federal government's last-ditch attempt to avoid the Civil War. Lincoln's whole position when he took office wasn't to abolish slavery. It was to contain it. And this went directly against the Confederacy's ambitions. They not only wanted to expand slavery to the territories, they wanted to conquer Cuba and Mexico and make those into slave states as well. But you won't really hear that from people who endorsed the lost cause myth. This story comes from ABC News. This is actually a little bit of
Starting point is 00:53:38 good news, kind of. Religious schools may face another hurdle to state tuition. So Maine lost the case. The Supreme Court ruled that if Maine was going to provide public funds to any private school, that they could not discriminate in those funds and by denying those funds to religious schools. So Maine said, neat, we're going to pass a law that says we aren't going to provide funds to any organization that is discriminatory against LGBTQ people. And then suddenly. And all of a sudden, oh, you guys. Oh, you discriminate. You discriminate.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Well, then you take yourself out of the running for this money. This is a good workaround. It is a good workaround, but it's going to get taken back up. Probably. And it's going to get overturned. Probably. Because they're going to find a way to do it. Because they want a result. Because they're going to find taken back up. Probably. And it's going to get overturned. Probably. Because they're going to find a way to do it. Because they want a result.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Because they're going to find a way to do it. What they're going to do is they're going to say, okay, cool, yeah, we're going to take this back up to the big court, and then the big court's going to say, oh, no, no, you're allowed to discriminate against those people. Right, yeah, well, you can't.
Starting point is 00:54:37 The thing is, they're going to say the same thing like we were talking before. Like, oh, you cannot, by withholding funds, then you are infringing on their right to practice religion the way they want to practice their religion. What if your religion is saying that you should be able to go out
Starting point is 00:54:52 and just smack people in the face or something? Or hurt another person? It stops at physical, but I'm allowed to essentially, I can make you, I can fire you. I can make you poor. I can make your life miserable. I can do all kinds of shitty stuff to you, but I can't. One thing I can't do. It's just so, it's so frustrating that they allow such broad leeway with this dumb idea that your religion essentially has no boundaries. Yeah. What if this was a madrasa advocating for the murder of the infidel?
Starting point is 00:55:28 Would they be so quick to defend it? No, of course not. No, absolutely not. What if this was a FLDS church in your local neighborhood advocating for the marriage of seven little girls to one church elder. Sure. Not doing it, but advocating for it, right? We are preferential in our rulings toward a kind of mainstream Christianity. What if this was the Moonies?
Starting point is 00:56:01 What if this was—there's a hundred examples. I don't believe for a second that, like the coach ruling is a good example. Like now teachers are allowed, any school employee I would think should, is allowed during school hours at school events to proselytize. Sure.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And they seem to think they want that because they imagine a certain proselytizer. But what if it's a Jehovah's Witness? What if it's a Satanist? Right. What if it's so many others? What if it's an atheist who holds up the Bible and makes fun of it
Starting point is 00:56:35 and points out all the inconsistencies in it and then reads the God delusion to the class out loud? Yeah. You think they're going to be protected the same way? No, of course not. They should. But they won't be. I know.
Starting point is 00:56:44 And you said earlier, there's no parity between them and atheists. There's certainly no parity between them and any other religion. And Muslims? Doesn't matter. Any other religion. Doesn't matter. Pick a religion. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:53 And there's a million of them. Yep. And they're all wrong. It's like when you see baking soda at the store. You think, I don't need to buy baking soda. I definitely already have baking soda. It's a staple. And then you get home and you're baking a cake and you reach in the cupboard for baking soda and you realize, fuck, women still aren't guaranteed equal rights under the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:57:14 This story I had to grab because it's so fucking horrifying. Just read the fucking headline. Dead state. Florida pastor arrested and charged for masturbating on Starbucks patio for the second time. I refuse. Do not make a double shot choke. Do not do it. I'm not allowing it.
Starting point is 00:57:33 No double shot. I do for once believe that there was semen in the latte. Can you make it extra foamy? This is ridiculous. How does that happen more than one time? The story also is written so hilariously because they talk about a guy
Starting point is 00:57:50 having his sexual organs out and masturbating. The way the story is written is hilarious. But seriously, how does this happen multiple times? At the same Starbucks. If he was praying, would we have to leave him alone? Would we have to say,
Starting point is 00:58:05 oh, sorry, he's praying. That's how he prays. That's how he prays. He prays and sprays. What? I read this and just started laughing. I love that this guy
Starting point is 00:58:18 gets arrested for this once and then something in his brain is like, I bet I'm a dude again. I can do a better job this time. I can hide it this time. He gets to the same Starbucks, man. What is it about this Starbucks
Starting point is 00:58:33 that gets him so excited? Well, I will say, I involuntarily have to shit when I smoke coffee. Maybe this is his body's reaction. Maybe that's just a bodily reaction. Maybe he fucks the coffee maker. He's the coffee maker. Maybe he's the guy who fucks the coffee maker.
Starting point is 00:58:49 We're going to have him as the first guy. Jesus, that's it. It's a callback to earlier in the show. He's fucking a coffee maker. He's got a handful of couch he's going to eat in a few seconds after he fucks the coffee. It only takes him a very short amount of time. He's an espresso. Don't email me
Starting point is 00:59:08 that that's not what that means. It's fine. It's got to be expresso. Yes, I... It's an expresso. Expresso. What do you get when you go to Starbucks
Starting point is 00:59:16 other than a handjob? Yeah. I mean, yeah. You got to put a lot of money in the tip jar. A lot of money. And your tip. In the tip jar. I'm of money in the tip jar. And your tip. In the tip jar.
Starting point is 00:59:27 I get a Trenta cold brewed light ice. Trenta is the 30 ounces? The 30 ounces. That's the only one that's accurate, right? Because the rest of them are all weird. Yeah, the other ones are all bonkers. I always get light ice. I guess Venti.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Is Venti 20? The Venti is the big one. I don't know. Does Venti mean 20? It probably does. Yeah, so there you go. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I get big one. I don't know. Does Venti mean 20? It probably does. Yeah. So there you go. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:46 So that's 20. Yeah. I get light ice because I get more coffee. More coffee. You're like those people who go in like no ice and then they get warm pop. Yeah. Right. Or then I want a,
Starting point is 00:59:55 I want a no ice and then a cup of ice. Like, thanks. People will do that shit. Cause you get more, you get more product out of it. But yeah, what do you get?
Starting point is 01:00:03 So I, when I go, if it's in the morning, I'll get a tall or no, a grande blonde. Okay. Because I've always wanted a grande blonde. No, I get a grande blonde every time because it's a nice like I love their blonde
Starting point is 01:00:17 roast. I'm not a huge fan of their coffee dark roast stuff. Yeah, it's a little tobacco-y. It's a little tobacco-y for me. So I get their blonde. But I normally, I drink my own coffee at home. I rarely drink Starbucks. I rarely go to Starbucks. Once in a great while,
Starting point is 01:00:30 I get, Sarah and I have a coffee that we love and like that is the coffee that we drink. And then any other coffees are all substandard to that coffee.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Every time we try to drink a coffee, we'll get coffee. We're the coffee people for like gifts too. And so people will give us coffee and that's always apocalypse coffee. We take one, we'll grind it up, taste it, and then we'll say that's apocalypse coffee, put it in the cupboard and we never drink it. Everything tastes like Folgers crystals compared to the coffee I get. God damn.
Starting point is 01:01:00 I love it. It's so good. What is it? It's called a witch's brew. Oh, I've had this. And it's really good. It is so good. It's oily and delicious. That is such a good coffee. It's called witch's brew. It's my favorite. It's ultra dark, like a very dark bean.
Starting point is 01:01:14 And it's really good. It's got a great flavor to it. It's not too acidic. It's kind of in the middle of everything. Everything I taste either is too acidic or too light. And this is sort of like right in the middle of everything. And it's perfect. So I get that. So if I do drink it too acidic or too light. Right. And this is sort of like right in the middle of everything and it's perfect. So I get that.
Starting point is 01:01:26 So if I do drink it, I will drink that. I used to get an Americano years ago. I like an Americano. Americano's a good drink, but I always drink hot stuff there. I never drink anything cold. Oh, I love ice coffee. Oh, I take that back. I had one of those nitros and those are good.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Nitro is money. Yeah. I don't get with the cream in it. I just get like a black nitro. It's so good. Yeah. I actually have a nitro maker at home. Nice.
Starting point is 01:01:45 And it's outstanding. Yeah, that's great stuff. It's really, really good. That's great stuff. The nitro is really awesome. Yeah. Yeah. When I was working like-
Starting point is 01:01:52 Stay away from the nitro Pepsi. Oh, is it bad? So I don't know. Maybe you know this. I bought one of the nitro vanilla Pepsis that they're selling. I cracked it open and I waited a minute and then I tried to drink it from the can and it tastes like shit. Tastes flat.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Now, I don't know if I have to pour it out or not to activate it. So I might have to try another one. Or do you have to like maybe shake it? I don't know what I did, but it tasted like flat Pepsi. I was like, this is the worst. I was so excited for like a nitro soda.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Yeah. I had never had one. I've never had one either, but it's fucking awesome. It was so excited for like a nitro soda. Yeah. I had never had one. I've never had one either. It's fucking awesome. It was terrible. It's flat. Anyway. When I used to work in the office all the time,
Starting point is 01:02:30 I would get at least two of those Trentas a day. Wow. Sometimes more. Holy cow. Like that was, it was, yeah. Cause I would get one in the morning every day myself.
Starting point is 01:02:41 And then if I had meetings, almost all, almost every time I had a meeting, any employee that came to like any of my managers would bring me a coffee. Somebody would bring me a coffee for that meeting because they know the meeting would be more pleasant if they brought me a coffee. So then I got bribed with coffee all the time. Oh, that's awesome. They're treating you like the dog. They have like little treats. Right. Exactly. A hundred percent. Wow. That's rewarding. Yes. A hundred percent. Wow. It's rewarding. Yes. A hundred percent.
Starting point is 01:03:05 Wow. Yeah. And we would all laugh about it. Yeah. That's great. But I'd be like, yeah, I mean, it works. Keep bringing me coffee. That's awesome. I'm happy.
Starting point is 01:03:11 That's awesome. Wow. So I would get bribed with coffee a lot. And then I would, a lot of times go off for like a three o'clock. If I drank one of those, I would piss a fucking river all day long. 30 ounces of beverage to me is just so much liquid to take in at the same time. It's a lot. It's a lot.
Starting point is 01:03:26 I would have to pee so much. I can't do it anymore. Now that I'm not doing it, like now I drink that much coffee, my stomach is like, you don't feel good. So you don't do them anymore? No. Uh-uh. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:03:35 I do one very, like if I go to the office, I'll get one. And I'll regret it. But I miss it. So I'll get one. So you fight your body a little? I'll fight my body. But there's a difference between one and three.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Yeah. If I tried three now, I'd be sick as a dog. And there's a difference between you fighting your body and this pastor fighting his body. This pastor... Like, he was beating something up.
Starting point is 01:03:56 He was beating the shit out of it. He was beating the shit out of it, but he wasn't. It was a different kind of fight. Maybe to get... He won. Did he win or lose? What do you think?
Starting point is 01:04:02 Did he win or lose? He gets arrested. He loses. Yeah. It depends on when you get arrested. If you win or lose? What do you think? Did he win or lose? He gets arrested, he loses. Yeah, it depends on when you get arrested. If he wins or loses. I wonder if he went back the second time because they didn't let him finish the first time.
Starting point is 01:04:11 You know? Jesus Christ. This is so sick. Oh, man. Can you imagine being the employee and you're like, again? That guy's jerking off on the balcony again.
Starting point is 01:04:23 What's happening out there? Hey, Pastor Bob or whatever. Like, again? That guy's jerking off on the balcony again. What's happening out there? Hey, Pastor Bob or whatever. You gotta love that it's a pastor, too. What the fuck, man? So we want to thank our patrons. Of course, we want to thank all our patrons. We want to thank our newest patrons,
Starting point is 01:04:45 Cara Mia Diva, Mark, Verilux, Jesse, Robin, and the people who upped their pledges, Arcane. Thank you so much for your generous donations. We truly appreciate it. We want to mention that patrons this month are going to get, and from now on, are going to start getting an extra show a month.
Starting point is 01:05:02 A show that only patrons are going to get, and we decided we're going to move the book club to patrons. The next month, we're going to start Rise of the Warrior Cop. We're not sure how far we'll get in an hour. It's going to be longer than farther than we did with the Carl Sagan when we read like one chapter
Starting point is 01:05:17 a week. We're going to be getting into a good portion of the book in the next month. So if you want to become a patron, you're going to be able to get this extra stuff, this full extra hour of content. So you can sign up at patreon.com and you can join in on the fun. We are going to be probably releasing it sometime.
Starting point is 01:05:36 We're not sure exactly what week next month, but we will be recording an extra full hour of just talking about the book. The book club. And the book club was voted on by patrons, and we decided on the first book we're going to do is Rise of the Warrior Cop by Radley Belko. We're looking forward to it. This is something exciting.
Starting point is 01:05:51 I think that we had so much fun doing the Demon Hunter World Book Club. We had such good feedback on doing that. We wanted to keep that, but we really needed to move it to something separate, to have a really in-depth and detailed discussion and really to give patrons an opportunity to weigh in on the books that
Starting point is 01:06:08 we do because this will be an ongoing offering to our patrons. Yeah. So if you're interested in joining in the BitClub, you can still become a patron and join in next month. Is it any level? Any level. Any level. Dollar an episode, you can join in on it. What a deal. We'd love
Starting point is 01:06:24 to see you. A bargain at any price. So we've got a little bit of email we want to talk about this week. We got a message from Jay. This is actually a really interesting question. He says, you know, getting a gift of whiskey. Tom got a gift of whiskey.
Starting point is 01:06:37 We drank some of it on the stream tonight, which we covered the hearing, the January 6th hearing that happened with Cassidy Hutchinson that she just did this week. It's a full two hours almost of us covering her. So you can go check it out.
Starting point is 01:06:54 But on the stream, Tom brought in a gift that he had gotten a bottle of whiskey. And Jay asks, what about giving pot? You know, it's legal. I'm assuming it's legal where you are. Could you give your co-worker just like a bag of weed? For work, I would say no. That's still an inappropriate gift.
Starting point is 01:07:11 I think so too. I think you can give alcohol for a couple of reasons. One, I just think it's just socially acceptable and has been for a hundred years. For a long time, yeah. So like, I'm making that number up. It's got that age to it where it feels, yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:24 I also think now I don't like you can have a drink and not be inebriated. And I think that there is a sort of like different cachet to how we treat and think about marijuana. I don't think it's fair, but I think there's a different cachet around it. Right. So it's like, oh, I can have a glass of wine and relax. Yeah. I think a lot of work is still real conservative. They don't like getting fucked up or being inebriated or any kind of intoxication. So it's sort of like assumed I'm going to get a bottle of whiskey and I'm going to have one glass and put it away, I think.
Starting point is 01:08:02 What's funny is I recently got marijuana as a gift for the first time in a long time. Oh yeah. I recently got marijuana as a gift and I was, I was like pleasantly surprised. I thought that was cool. I'm not going to smoke it. It's for my wife. Right. But I think it's a cool thing. Yeah. Like it's, I like it as a social gift. Yeah. So it was a social gift. It was not a work gift. So that's why I want to clarify. Cause like the second question is like, what about at a dinner party? And I think it's literally what I got at a dinner party. I was throwing a dinner party.
Starting point is 01:08:31 One of the first ones I threw in a long time, a person came over and said, I grew this, you should have it. Yeah. I think it's perfectly acceptable at a dinner party. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's socially fine.
Starting point is 01:08:40 I think in a work situation, it's still- It's different at work. And I think that might change in 20 years. Got an image from Daryl and Daryl sent this image in and it is, it's, it's,
Starting point is 01:08:50 he says it's crazy golf. It's a classy new bar. And then they said there's fancy around her too and an adult theme crazy golf. I don't really know what that is. Maybe it's, I don't know what crazy golf is. Maybe it might be mini golf.
Starting point is 01:09:02 I don't know, but the place has a very interesting name. And so we're going to post it on this. So good. It's good to check it out. We got an awesome tweet. This is an image, but I'm just going to read the tweet. This is from Arianna Huffington. And she says, so to sum up the Supreme court's week, life begins at conception and ends in a mass shooting. Yikes. And that's so true. How bad is like last week? My God. How terrible was that? It's been a rough,
Starting point is 01:09:32 rough few years, man. I'll tell you. Well, speaking of which, we are tomorrow night. Now, this hasn't released. It's not going to release until Monday, but it's first patrons will be on Sunday or maybe Saturday night.
Starting point is 01:09:44 But basically on Friday night, we did a live stream where we raised money for abortion access. You can still go to oafund.org. That is where all the fund is coming in. We're going to split all those up amongst three charities. And those three charities have been vetted. They are regional charities, small regional charities that are giving directly to help women have access to abortion.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Yeah, this is something we put together pretty much immediately after the ruling came out. You know, we just know that if there's anything that we can do, it's this organizing piece, right? Of all the small amount of influence that we have, it's this.
Starting point is 01:10:30 This is what we can do. So if you haven't had an opportunity to go to the live stream, which you want to donate, you can go to oafund.org. It's probably still up. I'm sure it's still up. You can select your favorite podcast of the three.
Starting point is 01:10:44 Select one of the three that are on the thing. Select one of the three podcasts there. And donate and know that that money is going to an excellent cause. And it's needed. It's really, really needed. It's going to be split up among three different organizations.
Starting point is 01:10:55 And they are local organizations helping women get abortions. And getting access to abortions. So if you missed it that night, go sign up. Hang out. You know, go watch the if you missed it that night, go sign up, hang out, you know, go watch the stream,
Starting point is 01:11:08 watch it, watch the stream, stream still there, or you can just go and just donate right away. All right. So that is going to wrap it up for this week. We are going to leave you like we always do with the skeptics. Creed credulity is not a virtue.
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