Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 641: Party of Vengeance

Episode Date: August 8, 2022

Show Notes:

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And there is no welcome mat. This is episode 641. This episode, Cecil, this is a first in American history episode. I don't know if you know this. Okay. This is the first time in American history that good news has come out of Kansas.

We've been doing 640 episodes. If we ever said good news and Kansas in the same show. I can't. I was anxiously watching the same thing you were, which is they had a vote on a referendum. Yeah, it was a referendum. This is the whole state voting on this and whether or not they're going to actually make changes

to their constitution in Kansas on whether or not they're going to change abortion laws. And it's interesting because when I was looking at it, there was a lot of back and forth. And when a lot of the pre-polls were like, it's neck and neck, it's neck and neck, and it's neck and neck, and it was not neck and neck. It was an absolute stomping. Crushing. Absolute stomping. 18-point margin. Yeah, it's huge. In every district, districts that voted heavily for Trump, like rural districts in Kansas came out in force in numbers. Absolutely. And absolutely curb stomped. What, this was, this is good news on so many levels, right?

So this is so, like, first first it's good news because kansas supreme court said look our constitution i don't i know that the fucking crazy federal government has decided that they're just gonna rewrite how liberty works fine but like even in kansas we have enough respect for the rule of law to say, I'm sorry, our constitution actually guarantees women bodily fucking autonomy and privacy. Right. Right. Right. So if you want us not to do that, you have to change our constitution. It's like, great, let's put it to a referendum about whether or not we're going to do that. And people fucking came out and it's not like this would be expected in a state like Illinois. And Illinois is actually a really good example of, I think,

a stark contrast with Kansas, right? So in Illinois, all of our statewide politics are shaped by our Chicago metropolitan area. It's Chicago, which is Cook County,

and then there are six surrounding counties that make up the Chicago metro area. And that's like 11 million people or something. It's a very,

like Chicago itself is like 3 million people, which is the third largest city in the United States. And because of that, almost nobody else comes because the rest of the state is unpopular. There's not a lot of people. There's two other large-ish, actually three other large-ish,

but we're talking hundreds of thousands of people. Right, you're talking like Rockford. Yeah, Rockford. Like way up north in Winnebago County, you got Rockford, which is like- Peoria. Peoria, and then the Champaign-Urbana, Springfield kind of area. But they're all either metro areas like Rockford or whatever, which is like a city. Right. And then two university cities. University cities, yeah. So Illinois is a great example because Illinois is controlled by its metropolitan area. Kansas is exactly the opposite. Kansas has blue metropolitan areas, but then the vast majority of the state's population lives rurally.

And as a result, they are a consistently red state. So I was shocked when I was looking at the numbers. So if you scroll over and you look at these numbers, you're like, you look in some of these places and in some of these out counties, you know, there was 15,000, 20 vote, 20,000 votes. And then you scroll into like a county, like a section of Wichita and there's 15,000 votes. Right. Yeah. And you just wait, what? What? Yeah. It's very simple. You're right.

What? What? Yeah, it's very simple. You're right. They're spread out where there's not enough of a population to lay that hammer blow to knock out the land, which is the land is voting.

Right, because the city isn't big enough. The city, like when we talk about like the cities in Kansas, they are dwarfed by comparison to cities in like the Northeast, the West, Chicago in the Midwest, they're just dwarfs. So big cities in Kansas aren't big enough to make up that rural area. But this was such an interest because of that.

That makes this such an interesting litmus test to a couple of things. One, it is again a demonstration of a demographic truth we've always known, which is that the anti-choice crowd has always been a numerical minority. Yes. They are a political minority. They are a numerical minority. This isn't what America wants. Right.

This is a tyranny of a religious right, which has controlled the political right for such a long time financially that this is a gift the political right had to give to the religious right. Yeah, yeah. You know, and they made good on it. They had to, the dog eventually

had to catch the bumper of the car. Yes, exactly. And that's what happened. And in this case too, this is what we were talking about a couple weeks ago. When we were having a conversation about, and I had asked,

I said, where the fuck are all you libertarians? Yeah. Who are, they're in Kansas. They're in Kansas. They're in Kansas. Because when you think about it, they're not taking it.

And they are right leaning and they put the monsters in office to do this. Yes. But when it comes down to it, they do not want to take these rights away. And they have very nuanced views about abortion. It's not just, do I want to take these rights away. And they have very nuanced views about abortion. It's not just, do I want to ban it? It's, you know, maybe they don't agree with Roe,

but they certainly don't agree with banning it altogether. And they certainly don't agree with some of the really draconian approaches that some of the places in the United States are taking right now. They don't agree with that. And they're seeing the writing on the wall in places like Texas and Oklahoma

and possibly in Mississippi and Alabama and all these places where there's just no place for anybody to go. And Ohio recently, where the child had to leave to go get an abortion somewhere else. So it's the same thing. They're seeing this happen

time and time and time and time again in all these different places. And so they, these people that are libertarians but vote right, they came out and you saw that in a big way. Now, I don't think, I don't want to give people too much hope about the midterms because of this. Because I think this is a very different thing. Because there was a referendum. Yeah, this is a referendum. So one, people came out.

It's close to when Roe gets overturned. So that's, of course, there's a lot of energizing. We're talking several months from now that there'll be another ballot, and that's going to be for the midterms. The other thing, too, is that when the midterms. The other thing too, is that while the midterm, when the midterms are going to come up, a lot of people that are libertarian are not going to vote Democrat. They're not going to go that way. So don't get your hopes up for this as like a referendum on what's to come. Because I have seen some of these pieces out there that are

saying, oh, well, look at how well they did there. Maybe the Republicans don't have the midterm sealed up. And I'm like, don't take your foot off the gas, number one, but also number two, you don't know that this is about abortion. And this, I mean, if you look at the numbers of people that voted, look at how many people voted for the Republicans in their primaries and then voted and then voted in this. Yeah, absolutely. I do. A couple of things struck me when I was reading about this. One is that I do hope that there is a because the state of Kansas has said, look, our state recognizes a state constitutional right to an abortion. a state constitutional right to an abortion. And then the people came out in droves to support that. And turnout for this was really, really high. Like, I think it was like almost a million people. They were saying it came out,

it came like something like Obama's presidency was the, yeah. People care. What that tells you is people really, really care about this issue. Yeah. They care very, very deeply about this issue. And when the rubber hits the road, even if you're a right winger, you care about choice. Because maybe you don't want it for you, but you want to make sure that your daughter has that option or your whatever. So this is an issue that people are excited about.

They're motivated about. It gets them out to the polls. These primary elections for midterms, these are not popular voting times. These are usually the worst. That's why they put it on there. That's why. Big explosion of votes.

They put it in there, Tom. They strategically put it in there because they knew. They don't want them at the midterms. Well, they didn't. They knew because Democrats in, what are you going to vote for in fucking kansas although admittedly i thought i read today that there's a democratic governor there is a democratic they can sometimes shift it's like us where sometimes we'll have a republican governor it's probably similar but you know there's nobody there that's probably going to win a senate seat there's nobody there

who's probably going to win a lot of other congressional seats and any of the stuff that's happening is going to be more hotly contested with the Republicans. So I think they very strategically thought, let's put this on here because no Democrats will be out and we'll just win. Right. I think so too. I do think that if the Democrats can get their fucking messaging right in many of these hotly contested seats. They should be able to say, and I think Kansas proves that this is a motivating issue. And I think they can stand in front of their constituency and say, here specifically, and this is what they have to do. Here are the specific things I am going to do to try to safeguard abortion in this state.

I am in Texas and these bills have been passed, but these bills are not forever. We can overturn them. Texas is a fucking purple state. It comes very close to turning red all the time. There are so many opportunities, I think, for Democrats to leverage the anger at people having their rights stripped away. And we can get turnout. This could turn into something. And look at what I just said about a Kansas Democratic governor. You get those libertarians on this,

you know, in this track, in this mindset. They could start voting for state races, state people in the state that are running for state seats, people in the state that are running for governor, people in the state that are running for state seats, people in the state that are running for governor, people in the state that are running for all those things that are going to make the difference in your states because the Supreme Court kicked it to the states. And so those libertarians can be brought over to your side. They can be brought over because, like you said, this is an issue that has always been about 70% of the people are like, no, man, I want some.

I want some. Now, where they spawn that spectrum. Yeah, but you and I differ on that spectrum. That's okay, but we're both pro-choice. Exactly, both pro-choice. Right. Yeah. I think, you know, this could, if God damn it,

if the Democrats are smart, what they will do is seize on this as a wedge issue. Yeah. What the Republicans did is they handed us their wedge issue. Yeah, because they've already solved it. Right. Yeah. So we better pick up the mantle.

This is the only wedge issue we've ever had. This is it. This is what you got. This is what you got. So if we don't seize on this wedge. Use it. if we don't seize on this wedge, use it, this is, and, and, and the difference is when the Republicans had this as a wedge, they were, and they succeeded in turning a wedge issue into a minority victory.

Yeah. But a wedge issue with a majority behind it should be even more, should be months. This is like, thanks for the V8 engine. Asshole. Seriously is it. You're absolutely right.

And it has behind it. Uh, you know, like you said, you're, you're doing it for the minority8 engine, assholes. Seriously is. You're absolutely right. And it has behind it, like you said, you're doing it for the minority the other way, but this has behind it the majority of people. Yeah, a big majority. Majority of the people in the United States. And so, yeah, there's a lot of, it was a big shock for a lot of people

because everybody is kind of like looking at the poll numbers thinking it wasn't going to be a big deal. And how much does this tell you like how bullshit polls are? Yeah, right? We've seen this happen time and time and time and time again.

I don't even think about it. Yeah, we are years now away from anything approaching accurate polling. Now you look at like, and they keep saying, oh, well, we're doing this and that to correct for. We're doing this and that to correct. No, fuck you.

Polling is garbage. It's sorry. It's just fucking garbage. We're doing this and that to correct. No, fuck you. Polling is garbage. It's sorry. It's just fucking garbage. We got to come up with something else. It's, it certainly isn't able to tell us with the degree of certainty that they seem to have for sure. Right.

Well, I mean, if they missed it by almost 20 points. And they did the same thing when it, you know, when you're talking about like Trump losing, Trump was supposed to lose, but he's supposed to lose by just such an enormous number

of points, and it just didn't happen. We've got to talk, though, Trump, since we're speaking about Trump, Trump had backed several people in different states, and a lot of people had won,

but one of them lost, Tom. One of them lost, and it's the jackass. It's the jackass from St. Louis, I think it was. Yeah, Mark McCloskey, piece of fucking human garbage. So I don't know if you guys remember, I'm going to scroll down. So now people

who are listening, you'll have to remember to the woman with no trigger discipline who was pointing her gun, her handgun, and this guy had an AK-47 outside of their gated community that Black Lives Matter came near. Right, they walked down the street. And they fucking held guns on him until they left.

In any case, this guy lost badly. He was like, he wasn't even like fifth place. He got fucking wrecked. So, but there's, but in other news though, in other places, Trump back candidates did win. So he still does, and scarily, some of those people are election deniers. Yeah, a lot of them. In big ways. A he still does. And scarily, some of those people are election deniers. Yeah. A lot of ways. A lot of them. Yeah. Because to be, in order for Trump to endorse you,

you have to continue to push the big lie. Yes, you have to keep saying it. You have to push the lie. Yeah. So, but I did read a couple of things that basically said that like the Democrats are playing with fire in that they have been strategically helping to angle these lunatics in because they're so polarizingly bizarre that it's like we think we can run against these that's what happened here that's what happened here in our state right so we had we had a moderate republican who's your mayor and then we had a fucking crazy hillbilly nutcase who's the other Republican who was attacking the moderate Republican

for being not a Trump backer and was attacking him for being too soft, and everybody was attacking that guy for being a Trump backer. And then there's just Pritzker on the other side who's just shitting his own money like he's on a golden throne, just shitting it constantly in the race. And so you have now a race because the primary happened and the race

is now between the craziest, craziest option and Pritzker. And a lot of people think the craziest option is not going to win because it's crazy. In Illinois, you can be a Republican governor, but you better be like a Ross Perot kind of, you better be kind of a sort of Republican. Closer to center. You can't be a far right. You can't be, you got to be more libertarian,

I think, than anything else in order to win. And I do not think, I hope I'm wrong because he sounds like a disaster of a person. Oh, I know. Yeah. Like a week after the shooting,

the day of the shooting, in fact. Yeah. He stood in front of his crowd and he said, it's time to move on. The day, literally, guys. Fourth of July, everybody. A couple of hours

after the shooting in Highland Park. There was a shooting at like a fucking parade in Highland Park, Illinois. And within a handful of hours, he's like, yeah, it's time to move on.

It's Fourth of July. It's two fireworks and have fucking hot dogs and drink some beers. It's time to move on. And yeah, it's time to move on. It's 4th of July. It's two fireworks and have fucking hot dogs and drink some beers. It's time to move on. And you're like, time to move on? It's the fucking afternoon of.

Fucking psycho. But anyway, there are like, so we even have an example of this here and that's a dangerous game. So across the nation, that's been happening.

But in some places, absolutely failed. Yep, absolutely. Fucking couldn't happen to a bunch of nicer people. And I want to play something else for you because you haven't seen this yet.

I'm going to play this audio for you at home. Now, if you're listening to this, you can't see the video. Just imagine an older Dick Cheney in a 10-gallon hat who is staring

deeply into your eyes and you can just tell, like you can smell the gunpowder. Yes. You know what I mean? You can feel the birdshot in your face. you can just tell, like you can smell the gunpowder. Yes. You know what I mean? You can feel the birdshot in your face. You can just feel, you know,

if you brush your beard a little, you'll be like, oh shit, there was like definitely some shotgun shell in there. For sure. So here we go. I love you said an older Dick Cheney.

Like Dick Cheney's always been old. He was born old. He feels a lot older now. Yeah. All right. So this is Dick. He is given a, he's given a old. He was born old. He feels a lot older now. All right, so this is Dick. He is given a, he's given a, this is an attack ad

for his daughter. Real quick, I know you want to play it. I know so much you want to, but like, look at how evil he looks. Dick Cheney, like,

if you guys are listening and not watching, Dick Cheney, remember how fucking evil he always looked? He still looks that evil. He looks, he looks like. Dick Cheney, remember how fucking evil he always looked? Yeah. He still looks that evil. He looks, he looks like old Dick Cheney,

but with someone in his freezer. Yes. That's what he looks like. He looks so hateful. He's always, and I don't want people to send me a message and be like,

I hate Dick Cheney. Trust me, you do not hate Dick Cheney as much as I hate Dick Cheney. But he's going to say some true things here. Yeah, right. In our nation's 246 year history,

there has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump. He tried to steal the last election using lies and violence to keep himself in power after the voters had rejected him. He is a coward. A real man wouldn't lie to his supporters. He lost his election and he lost big.

I know it, he knows it, and deep down, I think most Republicans know it. Lynn and I are so proud of Liz for standing up for the truth, doing what's right, honoring her oath to the Constitution, when so many in our party are too scared to do so. Liz is fearless. She never backs down from a fight. There is nothing more important she will ever do

than lead the effort to make sure Donald Trump is never again near the Oval Office. And she will succeed. I am Dick Cheney. I proudly voted for my daughter. I hope you will too. I'm Liz Cheney, and I approve this message. So- It's fucking true, man. Here's the thing. I fucking hate Dick Cheney and I approve this message so

it's fucking true man here's the thing I fucking hate Dick Cheney I hate Liz Cheney yes I hate them both yes

I can't stand them at all but I gotta recognize every time they say a true thing and they're saying a true thing now and the true thing is

is that he's a fucking coward and he lied to people and they're just they're the only they feel like like when the Cheneys are the only honest Republicans left. Yes, man. The world is happening. Like we fucking, we did one of those fucking jumper moments, like from a movie where you

jumped into another timeline. We are barreling towards fucking unreality if that's the case. Cause they're the, I mean, if they're the fucking last bastions of reality. Thank you. The, just to be a hundred percent clear, like I want to say, I think Dick Cheney personally and individually did literally irreparable damage.

To this country, to the rule of law in this country. Absolutely. I think he grotesquely engineered the murder of 150, 200,000 people. Sure. Just, he is a monster. And I think he is a war criminal. And I think the war in Iraq that he personally worked to engineer was nothing short of a war crime. Yeah. He's perpetrated on intentional lies. He should be brought up, he should, he should have to face charges.

Yes. He should have to, he should have to defend himself publicly against those charges. He is a, like literally, if,

if a person can be a monster, I genuinely believe Dick Cheney is a monster. And all of that. Yeah, if I died

and I closed my eyes and I woke up and I saw Dick Cheney, I would realize I was in hell. I would be like, no, there's a real hell. all of that. Yeah, if I died and I closed my eyes and I woke up and I saw Dick Cheney, I would realize I was in hell. I would be like, no, there's a real hell. That's it. I fucked up. I'm sorry. So, like, I don't want anyone to think of me as a Cheney apologist, right? I genuinely believe what I said. I'm not even trying to be

hyperbolic. I think he's an actual war criminal. Yeah, I think he is too. I think he's an actual war criminal. All of that said, he still is like, look, even I can't put up with that shit. He has more integrity. Right. Holy shit.

He has more integrity. How in the world are we, how are we living in a world where Dick Cheney, a guy who unironically signed a enhanced interrogation kit that was a water, like he promoted torture openly. He engineered a illegal war based on what he knew at the time to be lies.

Yeah. Hundreds of thousands of human beings died for literally no reason. All of that is true. And even he is like, look, even I wouldn't pull that shit. Yeah, no. And I'm Dick Cheney shit and I'm Dick Cheney

and I invented the underhanded playbook what the fuck man that's craziness that's going on next week I think is the vote for her I wonder I don't know what's going to happen there from what I hear she's not doing well in the polls

but who knows I think that's amazing what the fuck she's not doing well in the polls, but who knows? I think that's amazing. Yeah. That's amazing. Like, you can't. What the fuck? She's an incumbent. She seems to be doing the right thing. And to me, it feels like the people in that area of the country, I think, would respect something like that.

I would think so, too. I don't know. I guess I don't know them, so it doesn't matter. We say she's not doing well, but, again, to my prior point, I don't know what that means. Who knows know him, so it doesn't matter. We say she's not doing well, but again, to my prior point, I don't know what that means. Who knows? What does polling mean? It would be amazing

if she fucking wins by 20 points. Yeah, who knows, right? You'd be like, yeah, all right. Yeah. Last thing we're going to talk about with Trump, this was Trump just recently in his Truth Social posted after Biden was

ill with COVID. And so we talked about it earlier, but Biden, when he was when Trump was ill, posted something like, hey, good luck. I hope you get better. You know, my wife and I are praying for you and your family. We hope you have a speedy recovery or something like that. When Trump got COVID,

everybody pulled his mask off and he had half of the puffin or whatever. Yeah, and he stood at the fucking balcony or whatever and did his fucking... Don't cry for me, Argentina, speech or something like that. When Trump got COVID, remember when he pulled his mask off and he had half of the puffin or whatever. Yeah, and he stood at the fucking balcony or whatever and did his fucking don't cry for me Argentina speech or whatever.

So this is basically what Trump posted when he found out that Biden had COVID and Tom, I'm going to have you read this for the people

who can't see it. All right. So this was posted to his Truth Social. So until this made the news, two people saw it. The guy who reposted it. All right. So this was posted to his Truth Social. So until this made the news, two people saw it. The guy reposted it probably got more retweets

than Trump did. Joe Biden's second bout of COVID, sometimes referred to as the China virus, was sadly misdiagnosed by his doctors. He instead has dementia, but is happily recovering well.

Joe is thinking of moving part-time to one of those beautiful Wisconsin nursing homes where almost 100% of the residents miraculously, and for the first time in history, had the strength and energy to vote, even if those votes were cast illegally. Get well soon, Joe. There's so much to talk about with this.

So much. So much to talk about. First, the first thing I want to mention is, is he's getting better recovering from dementia. Does he know that dementia isn't a thing you recover from? Does Trump know things? No, I guess that's true. Does he know, this is a guy who wanted to shoot sunlight

into your veins, Cecil. Does he know you? Also, if they're residents of Wisconsin and they voted why were their votes illegal right yeah well I think he's saying like they didn't really like that

he's casting aspersions on the reality of the event is what I'm imagining because I'm like they had the strength to vote and if they voted and they're residents

then that then cool then that's like isn't that your base shouldn't you have won them over dipshit you know yeah

but instead he's saying that it's faked somehow right he's saying he's saying it isn't that your base shit and you'll want them over? Right. Dipshit? Yeah. But instead he's saying that it's faked somehow. Right. He's saying it's false. That they were just sitting in a chair somewhere and some orderly went out

with like everybody's ID because he doesn't know how voting works. He has no idea. He has no idea how voting works. I think he thinks you can just show up and be like,

I have 12 IDs in my hand. I'd like to vote by the 12 ballots, please. Let's make this official. I'll actually walk out and get back in line every week. Well, I IDs in my hand. I'd like to vote by the 12 ballots, please. Let's make this official. I'll actually walk out and get back in line every week. Well, I don't want to. I don't want to cheat the system.

Yeah. And even if you did that, you'd have 12 votes. 12. Like, if you spent all day lying and cheating, you could accomplish maybe a dozen events.

You know, even if you did it all day, let's just say you did it all day and it's like one person. Like it's so minuscule. It doesn't matter. It's so minuscule and it doesn't happen. Like the other thing is, is like it just doesn't happen.

It's structurally impossible. Right, yeah. There's no evidence of it. It's structurally next to impossible. There's literally no individual incentive. There's nothing but huge penalties, but. But let's talk about what kind of a giant baby

he is though for posting something like this. to tweet this out? Yeah. Or not tweet, because he can't tweet. To truth it out? Yeah,

to truth it out to seven fucking people. He truthed it at you. Ah, truthed it. Truth bat. What the fuck? What the fuck?

And I, the China virus, nobody calls it that, man. Nobody. Literally, nobody calls it that. He wants, like, it's like that line from the movie, it's like, stop trying to make China virus, nobody calls it that, man. Literally, nobody calls it that. He wants, like,

it's like that line from the movie. It's like, stop trying to make China virus happen. It's not going to happen. It's the same thing. This feels like that Key and Peele skit where it's like, getting the pussy on the chain wax.

And he's like, that's not a thing. You're trying to make a thing. It's not a thing. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. No one calls it the China virus. He's been trying to do that

since the beginning. And, like a handful of idiots were like, Kung flu. You're like, yeah, all right, truck nuts. It never stopped. Like it never, it hasn't been. This is not something.

It's not. Let's go, Brandon. No, right. That's for sure. Let's go, Brandon took off, right? You can, like it or lump it, you got to admit, like let's go, Brandon. It's fucking everywhere.

China virus and Kung flu that like. It never went anywhere. It's fucking everywhere. China virus and Kung flu, that like, it never went anywhere. Yeah. It never went because it's fucking awkward and stupid and inaccurate and nobody cares. Racist. Right.

Yeah. But I don't think that's why it doesn't work on the right. No, you're right. No, you're right. You're right. Like the rights, like their fucking currency

is racism, right? So what a dick. What just a small, petty, mean spirited. I don't know what's gonna happen in 2024 but he's making rumblings about running too and we'll see what you know that oh i think he's definitely the real litmus test is what happens to all his people in this upcoming election that's the real litmus test because if they get crushed the republicans are

gonna have a real hard time backing him i i think 24 is going to be such a fucking train wreck of an election. I mean, but I don't, I don't, I don't want to say it on one show. I don't think he can win. Yeah. I don't because he did not win, aggressively didn't win last time. And things have only gotten worse. People hate him. Yeah. Things have only gotten People hate him. Yeah.

Things have only gotten worse for him. Yeah. Not better. Yeah. He didn't come out in a good light afterwards. Right. Yeah. So I would like, I can't imagine what world I'd be in.

I mean, fuck me, man. No, if he wins in 2024, I gravely misunderstood all of American society. Right. Yeah. I just, we will have to move. Yeah. We will have, like, we'll illegally immigrate somewhere. This baby is coming out now.

No, not yet. If we don't make it to the border, our baby won't be born in America, and he'll never be president. He'll be president, Robert? What if our baby's a girl? Stop trying to jinx this with your lady voodoo, Barbara. My son is going to be born in the United States of America, and he's going to be president, and on his first day in office, he's going to declare war on Canada for making their goddamn GPS map so confusing.

Please proceed to the route A. If you're lost, just follow a moose. They're always going somewhere nice. This story comes from The Guardian. Embryos can be listed as dependents on tax returns. According to Georgia, taxpayers in the state will be able to claim tax exemptions for any unborn child with a detectable human heartbeat.

Interesting. That's very interesting. And the people who are against this, I'm against this. Of course. Terrible, terrible idea because it opens a door up for legitimate, legitimately saying that, that that's a human, that's a human being. And I hate that. But then specifically like a bunch of people were saying, well, what's going to happen? Because you know, you can prove it as it is a quote unquote

heartbeat, although you can't, we've talked about this. It's not a real thing. But you can go in and say, a doctor listened to it. It has a heartbeat. And now I can get a tax deduction. But what happens when you miscarry, which happens? It happens a lot. A lot. A lot. It's a frequent thing.

Yes. What happens then? Right. Do they have to give that money back? Is it, you know, what has to happen? Yeah. I can't imagine that you'd have to give it back that tax year. I think you'd get to claim it the whole year just like,

because what they're basically saying is that a heartbeat is life. You know what? You're right. You're right. You're right. Yeah. You could not. So like if I have, like if I have a kid and my kid dies,

I still get the tax break that year. Yeah. They don't come knock on your door and be like, oh, sorry, your kid died February 1st. You only, we got to prorate it.

No, it's not. Yeah. None of that shit is prorated. It's very, the systems are binary. Yeah. So they're yes and no. What this does,

interestingly, is like, again, totally agree with you. I think it's completely wrong. I think setting up a precedent that an embryo is a human being

with legitimate rights is fucking ridiculous and scientifically inaccurate and morally bankrupt. But what this also does is it creates an enormous incentive for people who are living in a state which is not going to allow them

to have an abortion to show up, prove that they have a kid, because now there's a big financial incentive. And they're going to do that as early as possible because the financial incentive is not nothing, right? It's worth doing. And so you're going to have people taking advantage of this,

and it's going to cost the state of Georgia big bucks. Yeah, it's going to be big bucks. Yeah, and if you consider how many miscarriages there are, you know, after that date of being able to go to a hospital and get those things.

You could do that. You could still get the abortion. There could be, you could get the heartbeat detected and then go to another state and get an abortion and still have the,

and still have the tax exemption. Crazy. Crazy. There's no reason why that's not a thing. It's a bad, I mean, it's just bad policy. It's just bad policy. Like you said,

there's a binary policy in place right now. And when you fuck with it like this, you're fucking your state over in a huge way. Your state is going to get fucked. And I just don't like to, I just don't want to cross that. I don't want to be the guy who'd be like, encourages something like this. Because I know like, the reason why I would want to cross that. Yeah. I don't want to be the guy who encourages something like this.

Because I know the reason why I would want to encourage things like this to happen is so people realize the absurdity of it. Yes. But what's crazy is that they see this and then they fucking look bold in the face and they don't realize how absurd it is. Yeah. I think this is one of those moments where it's almost like they've been dared not to blink. Yeah. And they're playing chicken. Yeah, it's chicken, dude.

You know, it's kind of like that lady who's like, yeah, man, if it's a fucking human being, I'm going to ride in the fucking carpool lane. Yeah. And so this is essentially the same thing. I think that there's some value to be had in pushing this idea as far as it goes in order to make in order to highlight the absurdity of the argument and to create financial distress for the powers that be.

The thing is, who eats that shit? Yeah, it's true. It's true, it's true. And it's a slippery slope, man. It's a fucking train wreck. That's how I slowed down the footage. And I played it in reverse. You vow to protect the child come hellfire of brimstone?

Okay, why are you playing my wedding video in reverse? I think the more important question here is why is the preacher at your wedding asking you to vow to protect the child in reverse? Yeah, that's a little odd, too. You bet your ass it's odd. This story comes from the new civil rights movement. Conservative Christian leaders of group linked to secretive organization demand Congress stop Bill protecting the freedom to marry. Yeah. So we've talked about this a bunch. The only real opposition

to the marriage equality protections come exclusively from the religious right. They come exclusively from the religious right. And if you want to know how in pocket the Republicans are to the religious right, you need to look no further than organizations like this, which exert enormous control over another issue that Americans are demographically united in support of. We are united demographically in support. 90% or something like that. We's enormous. We're not at this agreed on almost anything. Now it's 90% for, it's 70% of Americans for, for I think it's gay marriage or something like that.

But then it's, it's for fucking interracial marriage. Yeah. Right. 90% Tom, this, this shock. There's still 10% of people out there.

Think about that. 10 people you meet. One in 10 people you meet, Tom. That's got to be about that. One in 10 people you meet. One in 10 people you meet, Tom. That's got to be geographically limited. One in 10 people you meet are like, nah, man, I don't think you should marry a black woman. Right. One in 10 people.

I don't think you should marry no Asian. Oh my God. That's one in 10 people. I know. I know it's not. You're right. Because it's got to be geographically in a place, right? It's not that it's like- You and I aren't going to be geographically in a place right it's not that it's

it's not that it's like you and I aren't going to run across it's not like I walk down the city streets of Chicago right and as I walk down the city streets of Chicago I see you know

I go oh one in ten right but if I take everybody in America and I mix them up real good dude that's still 30 some million people that's a lot of people dude

those are the people who are mad at that Cheerios commercial yes you know that's those people that's it what of people dude those are the people who are mad at that cheerios commercial yes you know that's those people that's it what is happening man man there's how many fucking crazy nazis in this country like a lot of fucking nazis what is happening you don't care that much like it's fucking not you holy shit i i i saw that number is that number should be like 0.1.

It should be like some tiny rounding error of bigotry. The tiniest, like anti-miscegenation laws have been like struck down for like two generations now, at least. And we're, we're still 10% of people in this country are like, the guy on the Supreme Court

who just overturned abortion or whatever. One of the worst people. He's in an interracial marriage, man. I know. These guys can't even see themselves. I think about Clarence Thomas all the time and I'm like, does he know he's black? Does he own a mirror?

Does he know that he's in one of these relationships that 10% of the Pete, the people that are exclusively on his side. Right. That's what I mean. Like this is a guy who's working harder than almost anyone else to support a party of intense bigotry and hatred. Yeah.

And it's like, dude, that's, you, you know, that's you, you know, they fucking hate you.

Right. You know, they fucking hate you. They? You know, they fucking hate you. They only like you because you can do things for them. That's all. You are nothing but a fucking legal pack mule to these people. But the crazier thing too is like, even, you know, you take everybody in America and I thought it would be a little lower than this,

but like, it's like 70% of Americans are like, yeah, man, I don't care about gay marriage. Yeah, I don't care. This is, when you's like 70% of Americans are like, yeah, man, I don't care about gay marriage. Yeah, I don't care. This is, when you can get 70% of Americans on board with something, that's a big number, actually. That's a really big number.

But just like the abortion, you know, the Supreme Court might catch this car too. You know what I mean? The right might catch this car too. They might. And they might catch

the contraception car. Oh. And they might catch the contraception car. Oh. And they might catch the- That'll fucking explode in their faces. It's going to be nuts. But they, but you know,

at this point, they got to be all gas, no brakes. This is their chance. I know. Yeah, you're right. You've been pushing, you know,

this is, this Supreme Court thing has been orchestrated from the beginning. You know, you can, you can go back farther, but I mean,

really genuinely, Mitch McConnell orchestrated this and it took him years to do. But Mitch McConnell orchestrated this whole thing. So if you wanted the Supreme Court this far right, you got it, baby. You got it. Now it's all gas, no brakes,

because guess what? If you keep doing stuff like this, you're going to fuck your base up and they're going to start rejecting you wholesale. They are. And I know I've said this before, but I wholeheartedly believe it. The numbers are not behind the Republicans. They win because they play the game of politics better. They play it so much better. But I genuinely believe that when they lose, I genuinely believe that when they lose,

they will never regain power and superiority. They live to terrorize, and I don't want to pretend that they are not powerful. They're intensely powerful. We've seen it. But they are a numerical minority that continues to shrink. It continues to shrink. And I do think that they can push this

one fucking envelope too far. And I think we're goddamn close if not already there. And when that happens, they will lose an domino effect that they'll never fucking recover from. It used to be that the South voted historically democratically. The South, and you can lose a geography. You can lose a demographic of people. You can watch. It used to be that like your average Joe factory worker was a reliably blue voter. Yeah.

And now in most of the Rust Belt, it's the other way around. That's reliably red. So these fucking demographic realities are not like perma reality. They shift. And I think, I think the Republicans are on the wrong side of history on so many important issues that so many people are like, that's too far. Yeah. That's one too far. All we have to do, they're handing us our wedge issues, guys. They are handing us these wedges. If we don't fucking hammer them in the goddamn cracks. You got to use them. And then don't let your foot off the brakes on the January 6th stuff either.

Oh, yeah, man. Don't let your foot off. Anybody who did any of that shit, they should never get a seat ever again. Put them in jail. Yeah. Has this always been the goal? It has been the solemn oath of every man in uniform to lay down his life in defense of America's precious, precious homosexuals. How many soldiers lives is the life of one gay man worth? Seven.

The fuck, man. This is from truthout.org. Republican states sue to let schools block LGBTQ children from getting meals. Now, that's a little incendiary, that headline, but it's not too far off. So I want to read a little bit from this article. The vast majority of the U.S. Republicans attorneys general filed a lawsuit last week suing the Biden administration over its Department of Agriculture rule aimed at preventing LGBTQ children from being discriminated against in school meal programs. So, the USDA was like, all right, look, you can have the money, but you can't be a discriminatory, bigoted or we're just, we're not giving you the fucking money.

You don't get the money. It's the purse strings. I control the purse strings. You got to act how I want or you just don't get the money. And they were just like, no, wait a minute. Rather than just be like, yeah, well, we're just obviously discriminating against people for who they are

it's just an objectively bad criteria to use when deciding whether to feed children we'd rather sue about that we want the money and we want to still

be able to discriminate holy shit yeah this is where we are the war on the LGBTQ is ramping up this is their this is

this is their big wedge guys this is it and I and you hit it Tom these are kids man LGBTQ is ramping up. This is their big wedge, guys. This is it. And you hit it, Tom. These are kids, man. These are kids. Is there a way that we can just be like, okay, we're going to not discriminate

against children in our schooling. In our public schooling, we're going to not discriminate against these children. Is there a way that we can maybe do that? But instead, we're in this place where it's like, yeah, you know, we just really want to have the freedom to discriminate and treat them like the other in front of everyone in class. Yeah, man. We're, we, this is the second time in 12 months that we've talked about how Republicans object to, under certain circumstances,

feeding kids. Yes. Holy shit. Yeah. Look, we should feed good kids. Feed all the kids. And bad kids. Feed all the kids.

We should feed ugly kids and tall kids and short kids and smart kids and dumb kids. We should feed LGBTQ kids and bigoted kids. We should feed fucking every single kid that needs it. I don't care if a kid just fucking ate. I don't care if a kid lives at the old country buffet and comes to me asking for a sandwich with fucking mashed potatoes in his goddamn hair. If he wants food, feed kids. Holy shit. Who are you that you're like, we shouldn't feed Yeah. Who are you? What are your values? Yeah. No, I'm right there with you. And it's the same thing when it comes to, you know, this is a,

this is an offshoot of the places that won't take a child that is in a situation where they're in a group home or they're in a foster care and they won't put them with a forever family if they're gay. Yeah. Because they would rather see that child, this child who has, they didn't do anything to anybody. Nope.

Yeah, man. They would rather see that child struggle and be in a difficult situation than let a gay couple take care of them. They, this is a,

this is the party, not, and this is not an exaggeration. This is the party that will look a fifth grader in the eye. Yeah. Legitimately look a fifth grader in the eye and say, I don't care that you were raped. Carry a rape. Carry carry the result of that trauma through to delivery.

This will say this to a fifth grader. The Republican Party does not give a fuck they do not give a fuck about kids they specifically and out loud say it yeah we just have to listen to them say it they're it's so fucked up because like vociferously they're like stop the grooming won't someone protect the children? I'm like, great, let's fucking feed them. Like, no. So, all right, well, this kid got fucking raped. Like, and her body is too small to safely carry a fucking pregnancy,

much less fucking deliver it. Like, can we get this? No, you don't care about kids. They don't care in any practical sense. Yeah, they don't give a fuck. They're the party of life and they don't give a fuck about life at all. They don't care about people, period. They a practical sense. Yeah. They don't give a fuck. They're the party of life and they don't give a fuck about life at all.

Absolutely. They don't care about people, period. They have no empathy. What they want is they want to punish people they don't like. Yep.

And that's, and how they do it is keep the children out of their arms if they're a gay couple. Yeah, man. You know, if it's a gay kid,

punish that kid if you can while they're in your classes. Fuck right. You know, whatever. If it's, you know, if it's a woman,

punish her. Yep. Even if it's like a larvae your classes. Fuck right. You know, whatever. If it's a woman, punish her. Even if it's like a larvae of a woman, she gets punished too. So it doesn't matter. They will bring the punishment against people they don't like and that's what they've been doing for decades and don't expect it to ever change. So funny. As you were saying that, I realized that the right has

been touting themselves, and we've talked about this before, they've been touting themselves as the party of law and order. Yeah. Right? But they are really the party of crime and punishment. Yeah, really.

Yeah. And they don't understand the distinction. Yeah. And the distinction is everything. Yeah. That distinction is everything. Absolutely. And they are the fucking

dim-witted assholes who cannot tell the difference between law and order and crime and punishment. And they are the party of punishment. They'reholes who cannot tell the difference between law and order and crime and punishment. And they are the party of punishment. They're a vengeance party. They're a party of retribution. They're a vengeance party.

And that's why they love our prison system because it's a vengeance system. You know, it's all vengeance. That's what we have in this country. We don't have a rehabilitation system. Nobody's getting rehabilitated anywhere. It's vengeance. We want to hurt you.

We want you to feel bad. We want you to leave and always remember the bad thing you did because you're garbage. Yep. And we will treat you like garbage forever.

Yep. And so that's, and that's their, that's their way. That's what they do. There's zero empathy for anyone. And,

you know, this is, this is one of those moments where I hope they fucking lose. Dude, I know. I hope you fucking lose, man. Just, because you brought this

discharge, you bring this suit up, and I just want you to lose so bad to be like, but, you know, it's going to make it all the way to the Supreme Court. Who knows anymore, man? I know. If it makes it to the Supreme Court, then, yeah, if this goes to the Supreme Court, it's like, well, nothing matters anymore. Yeah, and the fact

is, they'll be like, yeah, well, it doesn't say gay in the Constitution. So we're allowed to shoot them out of canon. You know, people don't even want to know the truth. People don't want to know the truth in the Bible. If you want to turn the channel, go ahead, fool, turn the channel. If you want to learn something about god shut your mouth and listen to me for a minute this fucking guy this fucking thing man this story we used to play clips from this guy we did yeah we did it's from the raw story a right-wing think tank claimed to be a church and now members of congress want to investigate so we talked about this before

it's the family research council family Family Research Council. Yeah. Family Research Council is like, and now we're a church. And so we are tax exempt. And Congress, like Democrats in Congress, are like, actually, you're a right-wing political activist group. And so we are going to figure out if maybe you're full of shit. But Cecil, can you tell me the difference anymore? No. Between a church and a right-wing political activist group? And the other thing too is,

you remember we had a conversation a long time ago about how they pulled the teeth on that Johnson Amendment? Yeah. Where they pulled the teeth on it. Right. So does it matter? Like, does it really matter if a church does these things? It doesn't anymore.

It doesn't, but it's now like, now you don't even have to be a church to do that. Now, you can be engaged in what is just expressly and exclusively political speech. It's just political.

They're just political. Like, genuinely, what is the difference anymore between political speech and when Marjorie Taylor Greene, and I'm not even trying to be hyperbolic,

but when Marjorie Taylor Greene stands in front of everybody and says, we are a Christian nationalist party. Right. Is that religious speech or is that political speech? Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know that there, it seems like a distinction without a difference anymore. Yeah. Yeah, we're in a weird place. You know, this has been, we've been slowly rolling down this anymore. Yeah. We're in a weird place. We've been slowly

rolling down this hill. When we first started this show a decade ago, we were talking because Obama was in. We were talking about who knows. The first thing we really covered that was big on this show was Occupy Wall Street. Yeah, God. Holy shit, man. The first thing we really covered that was big on this show was Occupy Wall Street

yeah god holy shit man the first thing we really covered that was big big we're so old was Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Wall Street was big news at the time

it was and and you know Obama's in office at the time yeah so it's and we thought for sure

within the next 10 years that you know there's going to be so many safeguards in place where religion's just not going to get the foothold it needs. Yeah. We were so wrong. Just so wrong.

It's like so wrong. It's embarrassing. So wrong. Man, we were so wrong. Because look at where we're at now. Look at what's happening now. Now they're just like, yeah, we're a church. Yep.

Suck my dick. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Suck my, no, sorry. It's the snake that gave Eve the apple or whatever, but it's really my dick. Yeah, right. Yeah. Suck my, no, sorry. It's the snake that gave Eve the apple or whatever, but it's really my dick. Yeah.

Yeah. Cecil, if this goes through, if Family Research Council wins, then we're a church, bud. Yeah, fucking A, man. What's the difference? Fucking A, man. What's the difference?

Then I'm going to look, I think we should look into it. Yeah. If FRC can claim to be a church. And be a church, yeah. And be a church, if they win this fight, then legitimately, why is Glory Hole Studios not a church. And be a church, yeah. And be a church. If they win this fight, then legitimately,

why is Glory Hole Studios not a church? Yeah, no. I want to aggressively... Yeah, right. Absolutely. What's the difference? Yeah. What's the difference

between my political and religious opining, which is sincere, sincerely held, consistent over time? Like, I'll check all your boxes, motherf over time. Like I would, I'll check all your boxes, motherfuckers. Yeah, man.

Then we're a fucking church. We're 501C3-ing up in this bitch. Yeah. That would be fucking amazing. We are going to do it. Like if Family Research Council does it, we are legitimately doing it. What does your outfit look like as a priest? Oh.

See, because I- It's just a jockstrap and a hat. At Glory Hole Studios? That's fair. That's fair. I was thinking like, I'm looking at like Cardinal Richelieu kind of outfit.

Oh, there you go. Like full on Cardinal Richelieu. That's nice. That would be fucking baller, right? An old school Cardinal Richelieu. Maybe do the collar. I don't know, maybe black and then have red buttons.

Oh. And then have that like little capelet they wear.'t know, maybe black and then have red buttons, you know, and then have that like little capelet they wear. You know, like a little capelet. This sounds hot though. Yeah, it's true. You're a priest.

The thing is like, yeah, that sounds warm. The hat is an interesting proposition because do you wear the cardinal hat, which is like the little beanie or do you wear the pope hat? Or do you just wear something else?

I mean, we could wear a fedora. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to combine some shit. I'm going to get all those boxes the Jews wear. I'm just going to cover, but I'm going to pick a different shape. What are those called? The little Jew boxes. The little jewelry boxes

that they wear. The boxes with the prayers in them. They're just covered in them. Yeah. Teflon or something? Yes, I think that's what they're called. Something like Teflon? Yes. Keflax or something, I don't know, Aflac.

Kevlar. What shape? Oh, we got to get, yeah. We'll get dick-shaped boxes. Dick-shaped boxes. All over. No, no, no, no. Dicks on one arm,

holes on the other. Yes. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, so there you go. That's it. And then, you know, like when you pray, you put the dick into the hole or something. And. Oh. Yeah. So there you go. That's it. And then, you know, like when you pray,

you put the dick into the hole or something. And then you like go like clapping, clapping with your. You like bring your arms in front of you or whatever. So it'd be dicks and mouths is what it should be.

No, it's gotta be the hole in the wall. It's the hole in the wall. That's right. So you gotta go. It's Glory Hole Studios. I mean, we don't want to lose. You don't want to lose

where you come from, Tom. You don't want to lose that. I don't want, and I don't want to mock the sacred principles of Glory Hole Studios. Of course not. Don't be ridiculous. This is a church, Tom. You don't want to lose that. And I don't want to mock the sacred principles of Gloria. Of course not. Don't be ridiculous. This is a church, guys.

That's outrageous. Have a little fucking respect. How ridiculous. We would never mock anything like that. Also, everybody who listens will be required to tithe. Not 10% because we're not usurious. You know what you do? You know what you should do too is,

you know how they have those baptismal fonts or whatever that you dip your hands in and you do the thing? You go to the store and you buy fluid flex, which looks like cum. And then you pour it in the baptismal font so that you can walk up and you put it on. A genuflex?

You do the crucifix and then you got like a little fluid flex string hanging down from the, from the crossings. Oof. I was thinking bourbon is a little more like in keeping with the studio, but we,

I mean, look, if you're going to get into character, it's true. You know what else we have to do? We have to plant those jizz trees outside the studio. Oh my God. So the place,

there's a place in Chicago. There's a place in Chicago where you walk in the spring and you're just like, somebody fucking just came in a fucking like in a box and they're just going down the street. It smells so bad. It smells like but there's just these, there's like blocks of jizz trees, like

blocks and blocks and blocks. Do you think it's a fucking practical joke by an urban planner to plant those? I'm just going to plant a bunch of jizz trees out here. That's fine. You know what? It's poison ivy and cum trees the whole fucking way. It's Spunk Park.

Come on over. Oh, shit. I'm going to whoop your ass, bitch. I'm going to take my fist and stick it up your dick. I'm going to punch you in the teeth and you're gonna swallow them and they come out and you poop. You slimy, slumpy,

slumpy, shitty fool bitch. Thank you. Thank you, Ray. We're just gonna have to read parts of this, Tom. Yeah, this story comes from MSN. Remember the con. Dr. Oz's campaign, unable to spell its own address,

attacked for miracle cures. Dr. Mehmet Oz, who is running for a Pennsylvania Senate seat after winning a razor-thin primary race, is now trailing in the polls. In recent weeks, new financial and medical ethics concerns have arisen along with controversy over his Pennsylvania residency. Are they new when you say new? New.

You mean new? Do you really mean new? No, because he's been dragged in front of Congress to testify about his fucking miracle cure bullshit. This isn't new. This is, yeah.

Yeah. Oz is a longtime resident of New Jersey. He's running in Pennsylvania. And he specifically, like, there's video of him being like, I'm a guy. I live in New Jersey.

I don't want to live in the city. I like New Jersey. I like New Jersey. He doesn't live in Pennsylvania. And he specifically, like there's video of him being like, I'm a guy, I live in New Jersey. I don't want to live in the city. I like New Jersey. I like New Jersey. He doesn't live in Pennsylvania. Trump endorsed Oz, misspelled the name of his Pennsylvania address on his official declaration of candidacy, claiming Huntington Valley

instead of Huntington Valley. Unbelievable. Could you imagine? He don't know. It's a fucking made up address. Remember when Mark Meadows had that fucking made-up address where he voted?

Sure, yeah, yeah, made-up address where it's just like fucking like he lived in some rural trailer. Right. Yeah, he lived in a trailer. And the owner of the trailer was like, I don't think he's ever been here. I don't know him.

Yeah, never. No, didn't happen. Before he gave up his entertainment career as a celebrity surgeon to run for U.S. Senate, Oz was best known as the host of daytime TV's The Dr. Oz Show.

According to his financial disclosures, filed in April of 22, required of all Senate candidates, Oz valued his assets between $104 and $422 million. I just want to pause here. When you're so rich, you have a fucking factor of four? Yeah, man. And let's just say he's on the high end of that, that's a half a billion dollars. when you're so rich you don't you have a fucking factor of four yeah man and if and let's just say he's on the high end of that that's a half a billion dollars that's a

that's a that's a half a billion that's so much money that's a multi multi multi multi multi-millionaire as your senate as your senator

and they say in the next in the very next sentence they're like if elected he would be the wealthiest member of the senate yeah

unfun like again when you're so wealthy you don't know if you have a hundred million or 400 million. That's a huge difference. It's a huge difference. Oz has defended his ties to Pennsylvania.

He told Pittsburgh's Action 4 News that he went to school in and has a house outside of Philadelphia. We grew up just out, just south of Philadelphia. But Cecil, I fucking lived in Tampa. Yeah. I've lived in Trenton, New Jersey.

I don't live there now. I know, right? I can't be like, yeah, I'm going to run for fucking Congress in New Jersey because when I was three, I lived in New Jersey. Yeah, you know what? I remember my mom and I lived in fucking Tampa Bay, Florida when I was four or five. So pretty much I'm a Floridian.

What? No. Residency is where you fucking live. Where do you shit? Where do you get your mail? And that's the thing is there's all these people who play this fucking shell game. And they do this with this fucking,

to try to get into office, they go to places where they think they can win. Yeah. And he can't win in New Jersey. No. He's not going to win in New Jersey. He'll get destroyed in New Jersey. There's nobody in New Jersey who's going to vote for him.

Because they know what kind of fucking fraudster he is. Yeah. So he's got to go somewhere else. He's got to go to Pennsylvania. Yes, exactly. Right. And rile up all those voters. Yeah.

Right. Well, also, like like where a Republican win has significantly more edge to it, right? Way more edge to it. A guy that has $104 to $422 million doesn't play bad odds. No, right. He knows his odds.

Right. This is a guy who also earned his $104 to $422 million selling people bullshit. Lying to people. Lying. Lying. Huckstering. Like lying on television.

He's a liar for money. That's what he did. He's a public. He's Alex Jones with medicine. That's exactly what he is. That's what he is. He's no different. Look, Alex Jones is rich

because he sells garbage to the gullible. Yes. Oz is rich because he sells garbage to the gullible. Yes. Oz is rich because he sells garbage to the gullible. They're the same guy. The same person. Oz, to some degree, set the template for this shit. Yeah. Get big.

He made it mainstream. Get important. He made it mainstream. Yes, absolutely. An underqualified person pushed by a mega celebrity like Oprah or whatever. And then you get like a guy who's now a celebrity in his own right. And he recognizes the grift.

And then he's just fucking leans into it as hard as he can for his entire career. And then he recognizes, you know what? I got to go sit and I got to crawl and beg for two hours with Congress. Fuck you. I'm going to get in Congress then.

Yeah. Because he's got the money to buy a way in. He's going to buy a seat. There's this thing that the Republicans, I think, do where they sort of, and we saw with Ben Carson, right? So I'm drawing, I'm going to draw a parallel. They fetishize certain statuses of intelligent jobs, specifically doctors, right?

And what they don't understand is that as a world, as the world has become more deeply specialized, that you can be an intensely wonderful neurosurgeon, right? And you can be a, from all accounts, both Oz and Carson. He's credentialed. But beyond that, like people who have worked in the medical field with Oz as a surgeon are like, he's an extraordinarily gifted surgeon. He's not just good. He's like from everything that I've read, other people in the field, like he's a really excellent surgeon. He's very, very good at his

job. He's not just like an average surgeon. That means literally nothing at all as to whether or not he would be a good lawmaker or whether or not he's a trustworthy figure in other areas of medicine. What we have seemed to figure out is that the world is specialized and we need specialists to tell us about their areas of expertise. It makes no sense to go to a heart surgeon or a neurosurgeon about your fucking pancreas, right? They're all doctors, but like, that's a specialty he simply doesn't have. And then when you move it outside the realm of medicine, you start talking about things that are more nebulous, like nutrition, for which there is actually not a whole lot of real hard science. And a lot of those jurors are still out. and you start talking about things that are more nebulous, like nutrition, for which there is actually

not a whole lot of real hard science and a lot of those juries are still out. Oh, and he loves to talk about that. He loves to talk about that. Because he trades on the cachet of his title, which Americans haven't figured out is not a broad-based thing, right? Oh, he's a doctor.

I heard this from a doctor. What kind of doctor? Yeah, exactly. What kind? Is he a foot doctor? Right. Yeah. And that's the thing too. A guy like this, think about the couple of studies out there that are coming out about gut biome stuff. Right. Yeah. They can make a whole career out of that. Just making up bullshit about the gut. You know, oh, it's your gut that's controlling you to do this. Oh, it's your gut that's doing this. Even when the science isn't even solid. The science is not settled and it's your gut that's controlling you to do this oh it's your gut that's doing this even when the science isn't even science the science is not settled and it's not that strong

and it's like great well this is interesting it's promising more studies need to be done and it's like well if i can sell you a supplement exactly exactly how can i i think they look at this shit and they're like how can i leverage this to sell you something that's and that's what he did when he looked around pencil tucky to find a fucking place that he could leverage to fucking become a senator. And that's what he's doing now. He can't even fucking blindfold him and tell him to drive home.

You know what I mean? Like, take his GPS away and be like, drive home. Go ahead, now drive home. Probably can't even get there. Right. You don't know how to... Every place I've ever lived, I knew how to spell. I've not been confused. You don't know how to... Every place I've ever lived, I knew how to spell. Yeah. I've not been...

You don't make a fucking spelling mistake. You at least learned within the first week. Right. You know? Dude, you don't make a spelling mistake on your address. No. Because you've written it

how many hundreds of times. It's fucking muscle memory. This guy doesn't live there. Yeah. Because he's a liar. It's bullshit. Because he's been a liar forever. He's a fucking huckster.

I hope he loses. Oh, fucking loser. Please lose. You fucking loser. Come on, Pennsylvania. The fuck? Whoa. Too much of our fate as a country fucking lies in the hands of Pennsylvanians.

Man, there's just too many of these races where- And it's all across the country. The Senate just needs to go. It just needs to go. I know. The Senate is a garbage institution. Senate's got to go. And then what you go. I know. The Senate is a garbage institution. Senate's got to go. And then you just,

what you do is you take those hundred and you say, okay, now we're going to settle it and we're going to make it a hundred bigger on the other side. Sure. And be like,

okay. We're going to distribute them. And we're going to distribute them according to population. How fucking population works. And then suddenly, all the people in this country suddenly have their rights again.

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Okay. So we're going to read some email here. We got a message from Jay and Jay says, Jay sent us a video and it's the guy we talked about a while back. It was the guy who was harassing people and driving around in Arizona. And he had said he was going to hunt gay people. Right. And then Jay asked, is this the same guy in the video you guys shared a while ago? Those two guys in their truck talking about doing this very thing. Just a quick correction. They said they were going to hunt gay people. Right. So that's what they said they

were going to do. What they've done is film themselves on TikTok harassing people. Which is what they were already doing. Which is horrible and shitty and they're being bad people. But I don't think that they have actually done

the thing that would be a hate crime. Which they should be investigated for hate crime anyway, for saying out loud. But I don't think that they've done that thing yet. Objectively terrible people that should be investigated. Yes, absolutely. And we said as much

when it happened. Absolutely. There's a distinction between their fucking bullshit I'm going to go hunt people and showing up for TikTok views. Yeah, and harassing workers who are in a weird position, right? Like these guys all know what they're doing. All these guys know what they're doing.

They're going to a place of business where somebody who makes their living somewhere doesn't know whether or not they should confront this person to the fullest extent that they want to because they're worried about their job. They're worried about repercussions. They're worried about being filmed on TikTok right now and becoming the next meme. There's all these things that are happening in their mind and they're in an awkward situation. So these people

are being put in this situation that they can't retaliate against this person. Because what should happen is he walks into Target and he says something and somebody jacks him in the mouth. Right. And then they drag him outside and be like, don't come in here again. Yeah. But like the most cowardly thing to do is to confront people when they are constrained from responding. Yeah, exactly. And they can't do anything.

And they do this intentionally. It's strategic harassment of people who are constrained from response. Yeah, exactly. It's bullshit. It's bullshit. And that's what he does every time. And what's so great is, I've seen a bunch of videos

where this dude just gets owned, where he goes into a place, and today he walks, he walked up, I saw a video where he had a pride shirt because they're selling a pride shirt at Target, which is fucking awesome. Good for you.

They walk up to him. He said, do you support the satanic bullshit? Do you support Satan? Do you support this pride propaganda or whatever? And the girl looks him right in the face. She's like, I support Satan and that.

And I was like, give that girl a raise. She's at her target. She's like, I support Satan and that get out of my store. Get the fuck out. And then basically they have to escort him out of the store and they, again, their hands are tied. They can't do the

things because what you would love to see is somebody whose hands aren't tied walk up to him and be like, you're going to leave the store now or I'm going to forcibly pull you out of the store by your fucking chinny chin chin. You know, these like bullshit provocateurs, like the

other thing that you have to, and everybody knows it about them, right? And so they're pulling the Westboro Baptist Church bullshit, right? Where they're saying stupid, nonsensical, inflammatory nonsense on camera, on film, knowing that if you respond the only appropriate, like if you pop them in the mouth, you're getting sued. If you sleep him, he's going to sue you. Yep. Yeah. So this is like, it's the perfect act of cowardice, right? Because he's intentionally constraining. He wants you to hit him. Right.

He wants, he wants, he wants a bad reaction and what he's getting is owned because these people, none of these, and, and you know, there really should be, I really genuinely think they should have investigated him the moment he put that video. Absolutely. They should have, absolutely. He shouldn't be able to get a gun. He shouldn't be able to, like, you know what I mean? Like, all those things. Like, he should be a felon, in fact.

That's a hate crime. A guy like that, and I really, like, a guy like that should just, like, he should never be able to get a decent job. Yeah. You know, like, this shit should follow you. It should. It should follow you. You say stuff like that, it should follow you. So, that's going to get a decent job. Yeah. You know, like this shit should follow you. It should. It should follow you. You say stuff like that, it should follow you. So that's going to wrap it up for this week.

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