Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 642: Dear Old Dads Podcast

Episode Date: August 15, 2022

DEAR OLD DADS podcast! With Tom Thomas and Eli        Show Notes:

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We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political political and there is no welcome at this is episode fill in the blank ian 641 2 2 642 is what i also was going to say we are joined by two dads that i happen to know a couple of dads. Couple of dads. Couple of dads, we thought. This is the dad bod show today. Yeah, I mean, we all have dad bods. We've all got it rocking. Some of us didn't have to pay the price of having a child to do that. Or re-pairing.

I would know. The dad bod is free, I'll tell you what, because nobody would pay for it. It's actually the stock model. You've got to pay for the upgrades, that's for sure. It is a the stock model. You got to pay for the upgrades. That's for sure. It is a stocky model. You're not wrong. I want to thank you guys for coming today.

So we have on the show the Dear Old Dads podcast, which is Thomas, Tom, and Eli. You guys have a brand new show called Dear Old Dads. We're going to talk about this new podcast. I want to start out by asking you why did you have kids? What?

What would be the reason to like even have kids first of all? And then we could get into the whole podcast thing afterwards. The show's not even happening now. This was just Cesar like, I just need to know. Why did you do it? It wouldn't be the whole audience, but a part of our audience would love

if you just picked up your camera and walked around your house pointing at nice things. See? See? Look how clean it is. I'm going to break it and buy a new one.

Blah. This has no crayons on it. Do you see? No crayon stains. I will tell you that I've noticed a lack of sticky things in Cecil's house

for 25 years. I don't know where he puts that stuff, but I will say the general vibe. Yeah, we don't have people in that room. To be fair,

everything in my house was sticky before. Yeah, you had a pug. Everything had like a thin layer of slobber on it already. We recently moved. And when we got a new house within a week, there's stickers on every wall, crayon. One of them, Arlo, I can't remember if it was Arlo or Phoebe,

went up the stairs and just drew on the wall on the way up. Oh my God, I hate this so much. Nice, nice. That's the good stuff. That's the good stuff. It's an amazing parenting moment where for two seconds when a friend who doesn't have kids walks into your house, it's just two seconds.

You have two seconds of clarity at what a piece of shit your house has become. Because you start to go into the old social function of like, oh yeah, take off your shoes. And then you realize that if they take off their shoes, they'll go into the pile of bananas my son is going to step in.

So it's like, no, you know what? Keep your shoes on and try to avoid the open... You know what? In my house, same rule as a public restroom. Keep your shoes on for your safety. It's so funny because there's a couple that Tom and I are very close with and they had a kid about four or five years ago,

their little daughter. She's the sweetest little thing, but it's so funny you go to their house now. When you went over to their house before, this is a couple that we had traveled with all over the world. They didn't have kids until they were much later into their marriage and

into their, into their lives. And they have kid now and you walk over and the entire house, you cannot fit another toy in that house. Like you literally, I don't care what you do. You could like, like,

you know, like Tom and Jerry put your back against the toy to try to push it in. And it's impossible. It is embarrassing. Every surface is covered with a different toy. There's toys everywhere. It is absolute chaos in the house in comparison to like four years ago.

You know that Great Pacific garbage patch? That's my house. Yeah. With noise. It's just, we literally clean up by, I'll get a bin, just like a wheelbarrow I'll get a bin just like

a wheelbarrow anything just any like a fucking oil drum a bin and a power washer and just we just throw stuff in there

just throw it all in there and then I you know what we do because we're trying to get ready you know like as you say to have somebody over or something

we do all that we go upstairs to their little playroom and I dump it I just I go I dump it and I go back down

like I'm bailing water. Pile of toys. Dump in their playroom. Pile of toys. It's embarrassing. I'm so embarrassed by it. Thank you. Thank you both for validating what I said. And it's always like, underneath it is always like the cream half of an Oreo

just faced up in his fucking hair. fucking see you guys. You guys have young kids though. Like we're at a place with our kids where they're older, where they're, there's parts of the house. They're just not allowed in. Cause I liked that part of the house too much.

Like they're just like this studio for me. Yeah. Like when there's not allowed in the basement, like the kids cannot go in the base. They used to be actually their playroom. We gave them the basement. They trashed it. And we're like, all right, if you do it again, you'll lose basement. And like, it's go in the basement. They used to be actually their playroom. We gave them the basement. They trashed it.

And we're like, all right, if you do it again, you'll lose basement. And like, it's a nice finished basement. And they trashed it again. And I was like, all right, all your shit's gone. All your shit goes away. The basement's mine. They're not allowed in the basement. That's my space now.

I love it. You can't go down there. They have to ask me. I'll get a text message from my kid. Can I go in the basement to get something? Like, no. No. No. No.

Because you'd lost basement privileges. You never will see that thing again. For years. It's been years. That's an impressive alibi, Tom. That's an impressive alibi. You know, I think a lot of people will believe that. Yeah. He says that to the police, too.

Don't go in the basement. It's too messy. They lost basement privileges. To be fair, they messed it up when they cut and the pit pit. It was a chalk outline. They drew chalk all over it. Okay. So, no, but seriously, you guys decided to start a podcast.

What's the podcast about and why did you decide to start it? I don't know. I'll pick Thomas. Oh, the podcast. Dear old dads. We've said before, I think everybody had this idea independently, but Tom was the one who finally got us all together. And what was funny is we all three had a different kind of idea of like, yeah, in the back of our heads, like, I want to do some sort of parenting podcast. And then we all three had to combine that together into a show that is kind of a blending of those three ideas. And it's super cool because it's, I don't think the show is exactly

what any one of us pictured, but it's a great like mix of what we wanted. And I love it. It is just so much fun to record. It's absolute joy because, you know, there are people who like kids, Cecil. It's hard to, we could try to explain it, but two out of three of the hosts of Daryl

sounds awful, genuinely terrible. And we tackle, you know, lots of cool topics. Go ahead. I let the silence go. You let it go. You let it go. I was going to jump in there. You let it go. I want to talk though, like when you guys do this, I was thinking about it earlier. Our show and, you know, to extent every one of our shows has this sort of feeling like it's... Thank you for saying it out loud. Every one of our shows

essentially has an implicit set of ethics that it follows, right? So we all sort of implicitly tell people what our ethics are based on news stories or movies we watched or, you know, working our way through legal arguments. There's all this ethics stuff that we sort of bring out implicitly. But this is a moment for you guys to explicitly talk about not just your ethics, but your advice about how to instill those ethics on a child. I want to ask, I'm going to ask Tom this. Tom, does it make you more vulnerable? And is it a more vulnerable process than what we do on this show? I think for me, it absolutely is. Yeah, I think it's something that I've been finding out and discovering as we go through the show is that there's no way to talk about your family and there's no way to talk about

your deeply held personal values in a way that has really any fair distance. You really face two choices. You can either self-censor by omission and say like, all right, that I'm going to just exclude this topic or I'm just going to like tell a half of the story. And there's some of that that you do

because like some shit about the kids is private. My kids are older. They have a right to some privacy. They're not like babies at this point. So there's some of that,

but like all of this is like, hey, like here's not just what I think about something, but here's how I feel. And that is an inherently more vulnerable process. And it is absolutely a more vulnerable show.

And you just have to decide, I guess, I just have to be all right with that. Like, here it is. Like, come at me, I guess, if you don't like it. So it's been interesting. Yeah, no, 100%. Because the other thing is, like, it's not just, like, no, 100%. Because the other thing is like, it's not just like how you deeply feel about a thing

with no reservations and barely jokes to cover it up. It's also what you're going to do afterwards, right? If I review a movie and I'm like, Tom Hanks looks like a hat board made out of... And someone's like, I didn't enjoy that metaphor. I'm like, that's fine. You're not real. But that's like, I didn't enjoy that metaphor. I'm like, that's fine. You're not real. But that's just how I raise my boy.

So when someone's like, actually, I disagree with how you raise your boy. I'm like, I would murder you for him. So you have to... It's very hard to adjust. The parasocial transit doesn't work super. I bet, I bet. Thomas, you feel the same't work super. I bet, man. I bet. I bet. Thomas, you feel the same way?

I think I'm a little different just because my shows have always been a little different. I don't do anything scripted. It's never been... Like Eli's other shows, and I think Citation needed to a certain extent, and other shows you guys do are pretty scripted. I think I've just always not

really had a filter. I think everybody knows this about me. And so, I don't know. I've always been kind of out there just willing to just say whatever and talk about what's going on and my most intimate feelings about things. So it's not that much of a change for me, but I will say

I think one good thing about the show is there's not a whole lot of us saying like, hey, don't do this, except for hitting your kids. Obviously, we're like, hey, don't fucking hit your kids. But a lot of it is just us talking about... A lot of it is just us talking about like, here's what I'm doing. And then the other two guys being like, yeah, here's what I'm doing. And we're just kind of talking it through.

It's not preachy. It's just like we're trying to work through a lot of things ourselves. And people can take what they want from it. Or they can dish advice to us, which they do a lot of the time. But it's really fun. I think a lot of the comments we've seen is just people... For one, apparently there's no parenting podcasts that are explicit. None.

We're the only one. We're the only one. We're the parenting world. We're it. We've got to find a better way to say it. We're bringing children and fucking together. No, that's not... We'll work on it. I did a bunch of those jokes between

2016 and 2018, and they did not go. He's on a list now, so he doesn't want to talk about it. This is why he's got to take a fucking Amtrak to get anywhere. He's actually upstairs. I can hear him. I got a question.

I got a question. Eli, of the three of you, who's the worst dad? The worst dad? Who's the worst dad? Of the three of you. Can we do that? No, no, no. It's the worst dad? In every way. Can we do that? No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

It's the three of you guys. Who's the three? It's definitely me, right? There's something we're missing. No, here's the thing. Tom is telling us everything. Thomas is telling us everything. But we'll be three years into the show and I'll be like, what do you mean they need

milk? Like ever? You guys just hold your babies up in the shower like this and just sort of wait for them to pass out. And that's how you do the bathing thing. Like I am, as we horrifically discover moment to moment, I am basically an infant myself.

Just lost in a low pre-recording this podcast. I was asking Thomas to tell me whether or not business expenses just got paid back to you by the government. Like, you bought 400 pencils, so here's $400 worth of pencils. Like, I had no idea whether or not that was the case. So in the long term, when we zoom out, we'll realize like, oh yeah, but you know what? It turned out Eli's heart was in it, but

he was using microphone covers for diapers for three years. So I think we can all agree it's not an A for everything. Thomas, who's the worst dad of the three of you? Eli. Eli.

That's real. I don't know I don't know what everybody's gonna pick themselves and it's gonna be lame that's all I'm saying part of the show no I pick it

firmly fight each other that's what I'm doing here I think we all choose the reason I'm the worst I'll go to the bed for that everybody choose a different reason

have you seen what he dresses as no I don't know yeah I think that's impossible to say and one of the fun things about the show is we have all these plans for like what I'm gonna do to help my kids do whatever and then you know you see your kids and you're just like I don't know how the fuck any of that

happened like we'll see we'll see what happens I think it's I think you have just like, I don't know how the fuck any of that happened. We'll see. We'll see what happens. I think it's... I think you have to take the long view. So, you know, the first one of our kids that, I don't know, murders somebody, we'll say, like, that's the worst dad. We'll just say, I was going to say that. Because every

parenting group has the unignorable failure, right? If every friend, a group of parent friends, right? Eventually, as the kids grow, no one says anything, but then, twim-twam, you're just like, hey, guys, we can't use the pool anymore

because twim-twam just runs right over and shits directly into it. You just make all these adjustments. We're doing this in podcast form. Episode 400, we're going to be like, yeah, so Max was a bird again this week and i don't know where he got all those knives but you know cut himself some feathers and uh went right off the roof how's tb's doctorate going i hear she's struggling

getting after the masters because i know that that's it's tough alright Tom where's dad I don't know like I feel and I know this is what you said but like I do feel like in a lot of ways it's me I'm the only one

who's like yeah I kind of don't like doing this sometimes like these guys like these guys have like kids are like little and like they're like still in this honeymoon phase

hold on are little kids better though no like no no immediately he's like no they're not great. No. They're so great. Immediately he was like,

no, they're not better. They're so great. They're so great though. But your first kid is way different than your second kid because like your first kid, you're 35th

or whatever you're on. Like, I don't know. But like at this point, I'm just like, fuck, I don't want to even learn their names. Like, I just want to point at one of them

and be like, pick up something. I'm just going to put a revolver. Like, I don't even care what it is. Just pick up something. I mean, I just want to point at one of them and be like, pick up something. I'm just going to put a... Like, I don't even care what it is. Just pick up something. I mean, to be fair to Tom, we chose to have

all our children. Tom got Brady Bunched. Like, he's talking about... I picked up some STIs in my day, but none of them were 16-year-olds. Well, you asked earlier,

like, how, you know, why did you become dad they'll be like I'm fucking irresponsible that's like like these guys are like oh I like planned for this event

I'm just like it's true I don't know like it felt too good in there like I became a dad because I did not become a dad

like you know like so whoopsie it's like that I mean I love the kids, but oh my God. Yeah, I mean, sure. Yeah. I love all my accidents.

So, I want to ask. Tom wanted to name the second one rhythm method. They wouldn't let him. You guys look at like movies. When you think about movies, like the broad spectrum movies, is there a dad that you look at in the movies and you think that's a good dad or that's a dad I would strive to be? Is there any hero dads in the movies that you look at? And I even have an answer for this one and I'll go last,

but I'm going to start with whoever's ready. So whoever wants to go, is there a hero dad that you would say, that's my guy? I would like to be that dad go ahead tom i know you have like i'm such a shit though like the ultimate man i don't i don't have a good answer like but i was like kids go right i was laughing because i was like well mr incredible was fat and he got in shape so like i want to do that. Sure. Yeah, I really, well,

that's the thing about dad portrayal is there, you don't get a lot of good ones. It's so bad. The comedy is the bumbling idiot who can't do anything or up into like last year, even if you tried to portray a good dad,

it was like unknowingly and unwittingly sexist and terrible, you know, until like 10 years ago. So it's, there's not a lot to choose from, but I think Eli is signaling you might have the answer. I thought of one, and it's the perfect answer.

Mel Gibson from The Patriot. Oh, I haven't seen it. What does he do? Yeah. He like murders somebody. Someone kills his son and he kills everyone. Kills everyone. Oh, that's fair.

Liam Neeson from Taken. Exactly, yeah. Liam Neeson from Taken. Liam Neeson from Taken. There we go. Liam Neeson from Taken. Exactly. Yeah. Liam Neeson from Taken. There we go. Liam Neeson from Taken. There you go. Perfect dad.

Here's who I was thinking of. The dad from Juno. Who like his daughter's pregnant. Oh, that's a great answer. And he's like really sweet about it. That's a great answer. And like helps the kid out and like takes her to the ultrasound and like does all that work and stuff and like understands and doesn't like.

Doesn't get all judgy and judgy. But guys, bring it in. Bring it in. Bring it in. Mel Gibson. If your teenage daughter gives birth to the kid she gets knocked up with, you're not a great dad. All right? That kitchen table talk needs to be 20 minutes longer.

It needs to end at Planned Parenthood. You know what I'm saying? Ukulele music or no, get that thing the fuck out of you. She went to Planned Parenthood. You know what I'm saying? Ukulele music. No, get that thing the fuck out of you. She went to Planned Parenthood and she was swayed by a sign? Yeah, I know. Oh, yeah.

I don't think I watched that movie because, yeah, I don't know. But does he really just not get an abortion because of a sign? She doesn't. She doesn't. Yeah, she like changed her mind or whatever. But she gives it up for adoption and all the

people that are like pro-life can love it or whatever. But I just remember seeing the movie. I'm not yes or no on the movie. I don't care. But I just remember the dad's portrayal. The dad was a good dad. That's a good answer. That is better than Mr. Incredible. Mr. Incredible is pretty good. I like the picture answer. Marlon Brando in The Godfather.

Yes. You know that orange bit? It's a solid bit. Incredible. Mr. Incredible is pretty good. I like the picture answer. Marlon Brando in The Godfather. Yes. It's that orange bit. It's a solid bit. Fantastic. Look how they massacred my boy. You know? There's so many bad dads. There really is a lot of bad dads, though,

when you think about it. You're absolutely right, Thomas, that they're depicted as bumbling. The other thing too is, and I don't want to talk about how bad guys have it, but genuinely stay-at-home dads have an uphill battle too. That's a difficult thing too because I know several of them

that say they're sort of treated like glorified babysitters rather than actual fathers. And I think that that probably bleeds over to fathers as well. But we got the patriarchy on our side, so we could take a little hit once in a while. No big deal. The other side of that coin, though,

is it's so easy culturally to be a good dad. The bar is so low. Oh, yeah. The bar to be a good mom is actually so high, nobody's ever crossed it ever. Because, like, everybody makes it impossible. Do you guys have any single friends

who are on, like, Tinder or whatever and they talk about the guys, like, girls, and they talk about the guys, how they act there, and you're like, the bar is so low. I asked a friend of mine who's single.

Yeah. I was like, what is it? I just asked her for fun. I was like, what is, you know, what's a good Tinder message when someone's trying to, like, hit on you? And she's like, oh, they just, well, for one, it doesn't have a penis. So that's, you know, to eliminate half of them. And then, uh, they have to say like, hi, and incorporate like a single thing in my profile

to their message. You have to get an F plus on a school assignment to be a good dude on a dating app. It's similar with dads. It's not a high bar. It's not a high bar currently. No, you get an irresponsible amount of points for taking a kid to the

grocery store. You take a kid to the grocery store and the kid doesn't smell weird and like you accomplish grocery shopping yeah and it's like and like people around you will look like look at you like you fucking created cold fusion out of fig newtons it's fucking outrageous you did nothing you did literally nothing people ascribe beautiful tragedy to you right you're walking through the. I bet she died in a car accident. I just go with the T-Rex and he tried to hold the doors for her, but he couldn't. And then my wife's like, if this fucking woman doesn't move out of my way so I can get the Oreos in the next three seconds, I'm going to shoot her with an air T-shirt.

So true. It is. Oh, I do catch myself being embarrassingly impressed with stuff and I shouldn't be where I'm like, man, I fed the kids

and I did this. I'm like, oh, that was just super basic. I really should not be impressed. But I fed my children food and they went to bed. That's not, that's really not too much.

The expectations for men is so low that they made a whole movie that was called Three Men and a Baby, which was just, will they kill it? That was the point of the movie. You couldn't make Three Women and a Baby. Will they kill it?

They're just passing it back and forth, shaking the shit out of it. They're like, no, you take it. It was a concept of a blockbuster was, are they going to kill this fucking baby?

Probably. Maybe. Three times the chances. We don't know how we're going to fill the third act of the movie, but I mean, if they made

three women and a baby, they would rename it two women, two many, and a baby. Yeah. All right. When are you guys stopping?

Like, when is it done? When are you just finished having kids? Like, how many kids is too many kids? Five ago. I have four. How many do you have? Thomas, your wife just announced. How many do you have? Thomas, your wife just announced. How many will you have soon?

Three. In December, it'll be our third, and then I'm getting the balls chopped off for season. Look at his lying eyes. Look at his lying eyes. There it is. Get already. This is going to be a seven-kid family.

I'm going to show you the paperwork, my friend. Eight is enough. No, eight is enough. You better live stream your vasectomy or I'm not going to believe it. That's got to be a patron special. I'll tell you what,

a lot of people want to see your balls, Thomas, so I think it would be a big hit. Big hit. Specifically the balls? Specifically. Specifically. I get so many messages.

So many messages. But you should do it on that thing that you were streaming through. Show some sack. You should do that thing that you were streaming through on OA though. Make it look like a face again. Splash it off. Batwing.

Eli. My vasectomy is on the 19th. Oh, wow. So you're just, that's it. You created the perfect child and you're done. There's no reason to upgrade. If she could have rolled off the table and had me roll on for the vasectomy,

she should have. If she could have gotten a two-for-one coupon, she was like, look, man, you got the scalpel out already. Get to work. That's amazing. That's amazing. All right, guys, where can people find your show?

The internet. Wherever you get your podcast. Yeah. Wherever you get your podcast. Yeah, wherever you get your podcast. Search Dear Old Dads on podcast thingies. Yeah, what's that? What's that, Tom? Everywhere but Stitcher. Everywhere but Stitcher.

Yeah, fuck it. Everywhere but Stitcher. Yep, we're everywhere but Stitcher. All right. Well, guys, thanks for joining us. Check out Dear Old Dads on all the places where you can get podcast stuff. We're going to put the link in the show notes this week. Thank you, Eli and Thomas, for coming on and telling us about your show. Thanks for having us, guys. Thank you, Cecil. Thanks so much for having us.

I was walking down the street, minding my own affairs, when two policemen grabbed me unawawares They said, is your name Bowser? I said, why, sure They said, you're the guy we've been looking for Framed Always framed I never done nothing wrong But he always gets framed Sister comes from Newsweek. This is part of a broader category of stories.

There's a lot going on, yeah. So before I give you the headline for this one, so the FBI, incidentally, the director of fbi is a former trump appointee yes yeah that's important to point out so former trump appointee is the director of the fbi the federal judge um that that that uh signed off on the search warrant uh is a trump appointee so oh i didn't realize the federal judge was yeah the federal judge has signed off on the search warrant that the FBI used. That the people are saying they want to kill? Yeah.

Yeah, man. So this is how crazy it is, right? So the FBI raided Trump's residence at Mar-a-Lago. It seems like it's archival related. Right. So when Trump left office, he, and there's no dispute about this, he took with him 15 boxes of materials. Some of those materials he's returned because you can't just take shit. That's not your shit. I'm sorry, I mistakenly took these. Or did they follow him to fucking Florida and take him back? Because that's what happened. That's what happened.

And he took all kinds of shit. So he took some shit he took was classified. He took also like a bunch of like gifts from fucking foreign leaders, mementos. Like none of that shit is actually yours. So like if you're the president and like I meet the prime minister of Japan and that guy gives me a fucking bowl

or, you know, a gift or some ceremonial thing. That's not Tom's because I'm president. That's America's. It goes in a fucking national archive. All that shit goes in the archive. Unless you're Trump. In which case he just keeps that shit and leaves. But here's what you have to understand

about a guy who comes into office with that kind of money and that kind of treatment his whole life. Yes, yes. You know, when you watch the casino, there's a great part in casino where a guy flies in from Japan and they give him a lot of money to play.

They're like, they give him a lot of money to start out. And he gets, you know, he makes like a million dollars. Then he quits. And then he takes all the linens in the hotel before he leaves, right? Thinks they're his, right? They're just like, these are all gifts for me. And I think Trump has always had a life that he's led that is basically like,

everyone is giving me gifts all the time. When I go to a hotel, I just take stuff and nobody charges me because I am me and I, and everything is first class or whatever. And that sort of mindset to him, just, you know, it's presumptive ownership. That's a great way to put it. And I think that's exactly what he did was he was just like, yeah, I'm just going to take the couch. Right. Yeah. Because it's just like, I like it. I'm going to take this portrait of Lincoln, you know, like whatever. So he took all this shit and then they came back and they were like, hey man, you can't take that shit. And please don't take like, so they took back a bunch of that shit, but it turns out he still kept some shit. So this story is from Newsweek. Trump suggesting FBI planted evidence

confirms his guilt, according to lawyer. Also, no shit. So Trump is like, I think Trump is trying to get ahead of this story, right? Because he immediately started like, not tweeting because he can't fucking tweet, but putting missives.

Truth to truth. He truthed. Parlored it or whatever. What a fucking twat. Truth to parlor he like telegram signaled his parlor truths or whatever he fucking did exactly so like whatever evil nonsense apps that he uses for his fucking sycophantic right-wing terrorists that follow him like he put out a thing like oh the fbi broke into my shit and they even broke into my personal safe

and isn't this terrible and now he's saying stuff like oh you know they they wouldn't let i thought this was hilarious they wouldn't let any of my representatives or lawyers be on site while they were searching my place so they were probably planting evidence and that's just a way for him to deflect the fact that they're going to find fucking evidence yeah yeah yeah absolutely cecil if the fbi broke into your house they'd find nothing here's the thing the fbi would never break into my house right the fbi would never break into my house because they would have a search warrant to be let into my house right that's the thing like i thought i thought about this like if if the if the cops or the fbi break it's like this we've talked about

this before if like they if like if somebody's like this, we've talked about this before. If like, if somebody's like, I'm going to put all the skill in your closet out on full view, I'd be like, the worst you would do is embarrass me. I'd be embarrassed, but I wouldn't be, I wouldn't go to jail. Right. But the thing is though, is Trump is such a hypocrite

because he believes this stuff too. If someone were to break into the house of one of his enemies, he would say, oh, look at them. They're trying to get it. He would be saying the exact same thing. 100%. He also, if you remember, and he did this this week,

he also said years ago, if you plead the fifth, you're probably guilty. Oh, yeah. He had a whole thing about it. He's like, the fifth this week, like crazy. 400 times, man. He's like, yeah. He was brought in by the attorney general of New York

or whatever to be deposed. he was just like yeah I'm just fucking I'm not going to answer any of your questions also this is a guy who explicitly tried to weaponize the justice department for his own political gain and now he's like pissing and moaning about this being a weaponized justice department and you're like what

because what you're hearing from the right and I've been trying to pay attention to what the right's doing sure because it's because this is this is one of those things that like I don't think Because what you're hearing from the right, and I've been trying to pay attention to what the right's doing. Sure. Because this is one of those things that like, I don't think a lot is going to come from this. I know a lot of people are saying it could be the end or whatever. It's like, I don't believe that anymore.

No, I don't believe anything good anymore. I believe, what I believe is that they're going to, they found what they were looking for. He probably had some kind of classified document or something that he shouldn't have had and they took it back. And then that's going to be it. Nobody's going to do anything about it.

Nobody's going to fucking chase him down or whatever. Nobody, in fact, they probably wouldn't and never even told anybody if he didn't publicize this in a big way, nobody would have ever said anything. But instead he made a big deal out of it because I think he thinks he's in trouble. So he wants to make a big stink

because that way his followers come out and march in front of his house for hours. And he's fundraising. Yeah, absolutely. He immediately began fundraising. He immediately monetized. That's a great, that's a great point, Tom. And you're right because he immediately wants to spin it on. I gotta make as much money as possible. Right. So there's this, I don't feel like anything's really going to happen from this at all. But I feel one thing I wanted to do was watch the right a little bit because I want to see how they're taking this. And it's not well. It's not. No, man.

An FBI agent or an FBI office in Ohio, a guy tried to break in today with a gun. And there's a chance it's related to this. I don't know i it happened late in the afternoon today and he was chased out and murdered by the fbi uh but i don't know if it has anything related to this but it certainly is uncanny timing if someone armed is trying to break into a field office in ohio three days after the the former president was raided. There's been several senators and congresspeople who have come out really upset about what happened to him. And- Dude, a hashtag civil war is trending.

I mean, there's people who are posting on multiple message boards. They dox this judge. Yeah. And he's getting death threats and you know sending death threats to a federal judge that's you're going to jail for a real long time

that's not a thing you should do you're a real stupid person if you do that you are a genuinely dumb person that's as dumb as breaking into

an FBI field office really everything is very but what's the plan the one thing it tells you though is this is a hyper volatile situation fuck yeah man these people these people have fallen into this cult in a way that is What's the plan? The one thing it tells you, though, is this is a hyper-volatile situation. Fuck yeah, man.

These people have fallen into this cult in a way that is terrifying, and they are willing to do literally anything for him. It's not only the fucking crazy people that have this Trump... They have the Trump derangement syndrome. Yeah, right, absolutely. That's a total projection.

Trump is absolutely just pouring gas on what he knows. There is no way to look at this man and say, this man actually cares about the country. This man actually cares. He's like a civil. Like, does anybody believe that this man is a fucking civil servant? Yeah. Like, there's no way you believe that.

What you think is he is a deposed emperor. Yeah. That is what you believe. You believe that you want your fucking deposed emperor to be back in power because you want to ride the coattails of that power through like some associative element, either association

through your whiteness, association through your money, association in some other way. You want your fucking deposed fucking emperor to come back from his exile on shit island in Mar-a-Lago to come back over. And then, you know, we can all fucking celebrate. This guy will throw gas on the fire when you see

something like trending, like hashtag civil war. You can't care about the country. No, no. And throw gas on the fire. But this guy is gleefully pouring gas on the fire because he rakes in the dough. He's just making, he's personally making enormous amounts of money. Yeah. I am, this is scary though, because what it says to me is, we've been watching these January 6th hearings

throughout the whole thing. And it's clear that Trump very much wanted to bring a bunch of people that were clearly armed down to the house, and he wanted to lead them in. Yeah. He very much wanted that to happen. Yeah.

And it's very clear that he wanted it to happen because it's corroborated by dozens of people. Absolutely. Dozens of people. It's corroborated by evidence of logs. It's corroborated by phone calls. It's corroborated by, like I say, dozens of interviews. It can't be properly disputed. There's corroborated by evidence of logs. It's corroborated by phone calls. It's corroborated by, like I say, dozens of interviews. It can't be properly disputed. There's no way that this is just like some kind of weird manufactured thing unless they all got together and had this weird conversation like we got to throw Trump under the bus. He very much,

he feels like he's guilty of a lot of things. So much, man. I don't know that he's going to face any charges because look at what happens just with one search warrant. Like, and, and I don't even think, like I said, I don't even think it's going to be a big deal for him. I think it's,

there's nothing's going to happen out of this and look at his followers. Could you imagine if they take him into custody, what's going to happen? I, yeah, I actually thought about that. I, I'm not sure he should be arrested.

I, what I hope is that he is, his reputation, because I think that there's a hardcore element of Trump loyalists who are not Republicans. They are just Trump loyalists. Yeah. And they kind of don't count, right? I don't think they're numerically significant enough to carry an election anymore. I think you've got to have just the average, you got to have those fucking crazies, I think you've got to have just the average, you got to have those fucking crazies, but then you also have to have the Republicans. Every single Republican has to be on board. And I think that this sort of stuff is just,

it's another nail in that coffin. It's more tarnish on the reputation. It's more stain on the legacy. It's more, God, this guy's fucking poisonous and toxic. And like, we've still got two more years to continue to burn that reputation with the truth. Yeah. That's how you burn it, is you burn it with the actual truth. There is no reasonable argument to be made that this is a deep state operative action. Like all the important power players

were Trump appointees. Yeah. In this action. Yeah. All of them. If you believe in the deep state, if you think, I mean, you're- You're a fucking idiot. Probably Trump appointees. Yeah. In this action. Yeah. All of them. If you believe in the deep state, if you think, I mean, you're probably a dumb person. But if you believe in the deep state, you have to do so many mental jumps to make this work. Right.

Where it's not even a deep state anymore. You're like, okay, but what kind of de-chess is it to appoint the same guy who's going to serve you with search warrant? Right. I mean, like, my God, how deep are we in here? Also, isn't this a guy who's going to serve you with Sir Swarn? Right, yeah. Like, I mean, like, my God, how deep are we in here? Also, isn't this a guy who's going to hire only the best people? Yeah, I know. They're so great, you'll be tired of how great they'll be.

Yeah, I mean, like, that's what he said. And like, and now it's, he hates them all and they're all. But it's funny because there's a quote from Stephanie Grisham that I was reading in one of the articles we covered, we were reading today for prepping, for talking about Trump. And she basically says, like, you have to do whatever he wants, whenever he wants, and he can turn on you

like that. And that's the real key is that he's such a narcissist that he doesn't give a fuck about you. You better give him extreme loyalty. You have to do everything you can and you have to prove your loyal day in and day out. And if he will turn on you in a second, he has no loyalty to anyone. And so that's the real rub. And this is a volatile situation. It's scary because we're in a time now where, I mean, and the worst part is there could easily be a jettisoning of Trump by the Republicans, by the right in this country. They can do the right thing. They could easily just walk right in and they could say, you know what, Mitch McConnell walks in and be like, you know what, we don't want any presidents who are getting searched by the FBI. We stand with our FBI agents because they've been the wing of the

Republican party for years. And so we stand with them. And you know what? We're back the blue and whatever. I mean, you have Marjorie Taylor Greene saying defund the FBI. She's selling shirts. Defund the FBI shirts. So you have a situation now where they are so afraid of jettisoning him that they won't, but they can. There's so many opportunities, right, to do the right thing. And they will not take anyone up on these. There's only like three or four Republicans who are willing to take a stand. Then some of them are Cheneys, for Christ's sake.

I do. What world are we living in where that's the case? It does seem like we are increasingly at a place where there is going to have to be a schism. And the Marjorie Taylor Greene's are fucked, right? Because I do think that the Trump world is imploding upon itself. I hope it is, man. I hope you're right. Sort of like maggots are all beginning to just crumble. And I think all of that was a house of

cards. None of that was ever stable. And you're just watching the whole thing implode person after person and event after event. But the problem is you've got these fuckers that are in office that cannot extricate themselves from that world. And so they've got no choice but to keep doubling down and doubling down. But I do think that the right wing establishment at some point is going to say, all right, we got a problem we got some cancer it's got to be excised I hope so but like I hope so man because the MTGs can't I can't

I can't see how like the Hawleys and the Gates and the MTGs and the Boberts God I just like I don't want to even live in a world where they can be successful

I don't either I don't know how that would work I will say this though you know when you say that they could be successful I was thinking about this if Trump would have played by regular rules most of the time. Oh man, we'd be fucked. You'd be fucked right now. We'd be fucked. You'd be fucked right now.

He'd be the next Reagan. Guaranteed he'd be the next Reagan. Because with his attitude and playing within the rules, even all the fucking boneheaded shit he did throughout his entire presidency, if he would have played a little bit within the rules, I think, yep, wouldn't it be an issue? I think he just played his hand one too far. Just one too far.

Well, I think, I just don't think he can ever play clean. And this proves it, right? Like him walking out with all this shit. I think he was dirty the whole time. You know, they're talking right now, the right wing people are talking about, oh, well, when we take power, we're going to look in a hunter's laptop.

And I'm thinking, you guys had four years to do that under Trump. Yeah, why are you looking at him now? If you had anything, wouldn't a Zelensky said anything when he was trying to coerce him? Which is what he got impeached for in the first place. I know, I know. If they had anything, they would have brought something forward. They didn't have anything then. Yeah, but again, I go back to the metaphor of like, what if they had anything, they would have brought something forward. They didn't have anything then. Yeah, but, you know, again, I go back to the metaphor of, like,

like, what if they searched your house? Like, I don't think there's anything there. That's the thing is that, like, all of this was smokescreen bullshit. If there was some smoking gun on Hunter's laptop, they'd have put it. They'd have found it. They'd have found it. Somebody would have put it. There's nothing there.

It's like, oh, you know, we're going to look into the guys in the January 6th committee. Fucking look into them. Yeah. Then look into them. It's like, oh, we're going to look into the guys in the January 6th committee. Fucking look into them. Then look into them. Fine. I think, can you create smoke from nothing? Yeah, to some degree, of course you can. But it tends to go nowhere. Think about how hard they went after Hillary, after Benghazi. Committee after committee, investigation, and they never found anything significant. Ihazi. Yeah, no. And they, committee after committee, investigation, and they never found anything significant. I think the thing is, is though, that they started this back and forth,

especially under Hillary, with this retaliation. It was retaliatory, right? We are in power, and we're going to make you answer to us. And then the moment the Democrats got in power, they were like, no, there's some serious shit that happened. Like, this is not, that's not normal. That's not a normal conversation. But they took it as, well, they're doing the same thing with Hillary. So the

moment we come back, we're going to do the same thing to you. And you're like, no, but we're, like, it's not retaliatory. They're not doing it because they fucking make them feel better. They're doing it because there was some serious crimes and serious things happened. Like everybody, like the Mueller report even says, like they're just too stupid to take advantage of it. But there was an attempt at collusion.

Yeah, absolutely. Like the Russians, it's so funny because people forget that about the Mueller report. Like, oh, there was nothing there. There was a lot there. There was a lot there.

First of all, there was obstruction of justice. Yeah. Which was there. And then second of all, to your exact point, like the Russians absolutely meddled in that election. And they wanted to do more because people were just too stupid to take advantage of it. They're just too fucking, they're playing fucking negative 1D chess. Our side wanted to too. They were just too stupid to do it. Absolutely. So it's like- How frustrating would it be to be Russian in that scenario?

Could you imagine? You're just like, what is it? Is it fucking Moe, Larry, and Curly over there? I am trying here to destroy democracy. You're too stupid. I just hold my hand up like this and you do this and it's nothing.

It's nothing. No, but seriously, the retaliation back and forth, I think they, because it's such projection, because I don't, like, look, I don't think you should be doing this stuff because you just are bored or because you just don't like the other side.

I think that every time the Democrats have brought somebody up, there's been a serious something that's happened. It's not like they're like, oh man, there might be something on a laptop, so let's look into it. Also, I just want to be very clear and all this is an insane thing to say, but

I just want to make sure it goes without saying. If 10,000 people storm the fucking Capitol to try to keep Biden in office, should he lose? Then we should look into that. We should absolutely look into that. We should fucking burn everything down to look into that. This isn't fucking burn everything down to look into that. Like I'm not, this isn't like a partisan thing.

I think like if people smash fucking windows open with flagpoles and a human meat pours in to the windows like a fucking waterfall of insanity, then yeah, we should probably look into that. Because who doesn't look into that? Yeah, yeah. What is the solution? Just be like, I don't know, an attack on the American Capitol,

let it go. They seriously wanted to just let it go. They seriously wanted to let it go. They would say, it's time to move on. The Republicans said that

if like, it was like January 9th. Right. And they're like, no, we're done talking about it. You know, we're done talking about it. Pretty much over.

We all got together and said, this is really bad press for us, so let's just quit talking about it. Yeah, I mean, that one guy's still running away. Ixley on the Ixley. Let's do this.

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when they come in here and see Miss Sylvia at the pharmacy. Shoot, ain't nothing wrong with having scrotal acne. Ow! All right, now, now don't forget to wash down there with really hot water. And whatever you do, don't squeeze them. Because when those things pop, Lord have mercy. This story comes from Fox News on purpose because their coverage is shit. And I wanted to point it out.

Minnesota pharmacist who denied emergency contraception wins case. We should be able to live out our beliefs. So this is exactly what it sounds like. A woman went in to get emergency contraception and a pharmacist in Minnesota refused to provide those medicines that were prescribed, that were available and were the medicines that she should have gotten and she sued she sued because that's fucking bullshit and the courts were like you know you know it's more important than women's rights well first virtually everything yeah because america and second uh religion you know somebody should be able to live out their beliefs. The way that Fox frames this is so fucking appalling. They spend all of their time sort of conveying the pharmacist's

viewpoint in this article. I just think it's really telling. It's one of those things where you look at the journalism in quotes. And so I want to read it to you. Minnesota pharmacist, George Bidu faced legal trouble after he refused to provide emergency contraceptive pills to a patient in 2019 because of his personal religious beliefs. Quote, I couldn't fill this prescription because one of the possible mechanisms of action

of the medication is that it can prevent the implantation of a fertilized egg into the universe, Bidu told the Fox into the universe. I mean, that's true. It's true. Badoo. Universe. You said universe. Into the universe. I mean, that's true. It's true. It's all right.

I'll allow it. Uterus. Badoo. Went on to say that the patients Badoo. Badoo. Badoo. Went on to say

the patients moved to sue him for refusing to supply the morning after pill surprised him. He also argued that medical professionals should not be forced

to leave their deeply held beliefs in their back pockets on the job. We should be able to live out our beliefs in our workplace, he said. Pirro noted that although Baddiel won the case, the plaintiff received $25,000 for emotional harm as well. They didn't though. But that's a confusing feature

of Minnesota trial practice, said the attorney. The jury is instructed that their job isn't done until the damages question is answered, regardless of how you answered the liability question. And then they went on to explain that although the plaintiff was awarded damages,

they will not receive those damages after failing to prove their case. What a dumb thing to do. And then this part makes me crazy. So then again, Bidu, they spent all their time talking to the fucking pharmacist, guys. None of this time talking to the woman who was denied medicine.

I did everything I could in light of the facts, Bidu, you said. And I went out of my way to phone the patient when there was a small possibility that the pharmacist who would be working the next day, who would fill the prescription, might not make it because of a snowstorm forecast. Those things are, you need those things because it's, it's like the day after pill. It's super timely. It's the day after pill. And it's like, and I don't want to hear like,

you're like, you're killing a baby or whatever. It's a fucking, it's a, it's, you can't even see it, man.

Right. You literally can't even see it. If you saw like, like a discharge, you wouldn't be able to pick it out. It's a fucking, it's smaller than

the head of a pencil. You cannot see it at that point. It just stops the, it's smaller than the head of a pencil. You cannot see it at that point. It just stops the fertilization from the, it fertilizes, but it can't sit on the wall. It just flushes it off the wall. There's nothing there, man. Nothing, nothing at all. This isn't, this isn't like, unless you believe like it's a fully fucking college aged adult when it gets fucking conceived. It's absolutely maddening.

And I want to say this. Here's what I'm going to do. This is my work plan from now until forever. I'm going to go in and I'm going to learn how to be a blood transfer guy. That's what I'm going to do. Transfusions.

That's going to be my specialist. And I'm going to be a Jehovah's Witness. And then I'm going to sit at my fucking desk all day. And anybody who comes in will be like, sorry, I don't believe in transfusions. Can't do it. Because I'm going to sit at my fucking desk all day. And anybody who comes in like, sorry, I don't believe in transfusion. Can't do it. Because I'm a Jehovah's witness. That's an abomination. And I'm going to play fucking words with friends and angry birds all day with my feet up because I don't have to do anything because I don't believe in it.

Yeah, man. It's fucking bullshit. And it's dangerous. And like he tries to, Fox allows this motherfucker to downplay the danger by saying like, oh, well, you know, I was going to set her up with a different pharmacist who would do it.

Well, fucking what if the, what if there was no pharmacist in your fucking backwater hillbilly bullshit pharmacy? What if there was nobody? Then what? She's just fucked? And the Minnesota says,

yeah, she's just fucked. She gets nothing. She goes to the doctor. She wants medicine. She's supposed to get this fucking medicine. Her and her doctor make a fucking personal medical decision. The pharmacist, it's got nothing to do with you. Fill the fucking prescription. If your objection to the medicine is a personal fucking objection, that has nothing to do with anything. That'd be like, if I was like, hey, you know what? I don't want to sell you Pringles. I think those are gross. Yeah.

That's fucking weird. It's the same thing. Why are you weird? Sell people shit. It's the same thing. Should I not sell cigarettes because they fucking kill people? Like you don't get to make those decisions

in anything else you do. Right. It seems like they're the only ones and it's because religion is the only thing that we seem to look at and say, no, that trumps everything. It's like, no, your fucking beliefs don't trump everything.

They just don't. Do another fucking job, man. Right. Like you picked the wrong job. You know, there's plenty of regulations for so many different jobs that are, you know, for instance, and I don't know if this is true,

but I guess I had heard that if you want to be a pilot, you have to have a good vision, right? You can't wear glasses. I've heard the same thing. I don't know if it's true, but I guess you can't wear glasses. From what I've heard, you can't wear glasses. I can be, I gotta be honest. I don't care. But here's the thing, I'm using it as an explanation, as sort of like a metaphor. Just because you want to doesn't mean you can get into that profession, right? You just can't get into that profession if you're not, if you just don't have good enough eyesight. Well, same thing here.

It's like, there should be something here that you get a questionnaire when you come in. This should be mandated by the state. You just have to give out those things. If you don't want to do it, get out of the profession. Go do something else. Or they should start like little, like fucking, you know, those health insurance scam things they have. They should do the same thing for pharmacies.

You want to be a religious fucking nutcase and you want to go fucking grab something from there. Go to your weird fucking co-op religious pharmacy where they don't give away that stuff and you could feel good about yourself or whatever. They call that Walgreens. Okay. So you can go to your fucking weird

little co-op. Although it turns out CVS is doing the same thing. Holy shit. You can't go fucking anywhere. I thought I read that it said CVS. I got to ask people, where can we go? And I want to ask the pharmacist, anybody in the, I'm thinking Target. If Target has a pharmacy, because they're a pretty progressive company. The grocery stores too.

So I wonder if Target would do something like this. I wonder if Target, if somebody came in, if they would allow their pharmacist, I kind of want somebody to ask or figure out like what pharmacies can we promote as a place to go? Because it's fucking ridiculous. It is, man. It is. And like it's right now, it's limited. We talked about this before, but it's problematic.'s, it's problematic. But like, what if the pharmacist had an objection, some personally held belief objection to pain management?

Sure. Right. Yeah. What if their brother, like legitimately, like what if their fucking brother died of an opiate overdose overdose? And they're like, you know what?

I actually don't believe that opiates are a good medicine. I don't think we should prescribe them. I have a personally strongly held belief that, so like, so now I got fucking cancer and I need fucking pain management and I go and the pharmacist is like, double fuck you. Sorry. I don't give those things out. Fuck you.

That's between you and your doctor. The pharmacist is there to keep you safe. Exactly. Keep you safe giving out your medicines. They are not there to decide what your medical treatment should be. That's a fucking grotesque misstep. It really is. I want to touch on something

you talked about though really quickly. You said earlier, you're like, what if nobody's around or what if there's another pharmacy around? I read an article this week that talked about pharmacy deserts are just as real as food deserts.

I don't doubt that for a second, man. Especially in low-income neighborhoods and rural areas, pharmacy deserts are just as real. And what happens is you're stuck with your guy. This is your guy for miles or for, in some cases in the inner city, for the entirety of how far you can go without spending money, right?

So if you're in poverty, you're in a place, you have to pay $2.75 to get on the train to go somewhere. That's an extra $2.75. Plus, maybe you got to pay a transfer to get back on. How much are you going to have to pay to just go get your medicine? Whereas you could just walk down the street. Well, if the pharmacy isn't going to give you your stuff

or they have some weird, deeply held belief, are you going to be fucked? Are you basically, you just can't? Sorry, you're fucked now. So this is a really insidious problem that someone needs to solve. There needs to be some sort of legislation that basically says, no, absolutely not.

No more. You want to do this, start your own weird fucking culty fucking religious thing, but that's not a pharmacy. You call that what you want and you guys give medicine to each other. Shoot it up each other's ass, whatever you want to do. But not, this isn't how pharmacies

work anymore. It should be part of your licensing. Exactly. It should be part of your licensing is like, look, you can't fucking turn people down for medicine unless there's a legitimate medical reason to turn them down. Because that's not your fucking call. Absolutely.

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Now charged over abortion The company was served with a warrant for the messages Which experts worry could become common So that's That's kind of the story here Like the daughter was messaging mom about her plans to have an abortion.

She got an abortion using medication. She got a medication abortion. The state that she's in has a law that says you can't have an abortion after, I think, 20 weeks. It was 22. Okay, 22 weeks. No, it was after 20. She was 22. Okay, yeah. So the state law was 20 and she was like at Okay, 22 weeks? No, it was after 20. She was 22. Okay, yeah, yeah. So the state law was 20,

and she was like at 22, so she... Again, we don't know if that's true either. Right, yeah. Because when we talked to Jessica, she's like, they just go by a number. They don't know. Right, yeah.

This is... But the heart and soul of this story is that this kind of egregious, invasive privacy bullshit is now part of our life. That's what this ruling, that's what the Dobbs ruling did, right? Is it said, you don't have a right to privacy.

So you're messaging your fucking mother and saying, hey, mom, I'm fucking thinking of making this fucking medical decision and I want to talk about it with my mom. And now that fucking personal conversation with your fucking mom can be used against you. It's crazy because, you know, the right is all about privacy when it comes to Trump's place. Fucking right. Yeah.

All about privacy. Right. All about privacy. But when it comes to this. Yeah. No, we should invade your privacy. We should invade your privacy. Right? All about privacy. But when it comes to this, no, we should invade your privacy. We should invade your privacy. We should invade your privacy. And this is, like you said,

a personal medical decision. You're basically saying we want to force young teenagers to have children. We want more teen pregnancies. Absolutely. We want more teen pregnancies in the America. That's what we want. Yep. And, you know, we want more people to have kids want more teen pregnancies in the America that's what we want

we want more people to have kids they don't want to have do you know anybody who had kids as an early teen yeah absolutely so there was a girl in my high school really bright girl and she had a kid while she was in high school

she literally had a kid she was pregnant in high school had a kid while she was in high school. Like she literally had a kid, like she was pregnant in high school, had a kid in high school. I don't think she ever went on to get like, you know, a degree or anything like that. She just became a mom, but she was like a really bright girl.

I remember, you know, knowing her and being on like her, she was in my friend's circle. She wasn't like a close friend, but she was in my friend's circle. She was always very sweet, but she got, sweet, but she got pregnant in high school. If we make it harder for women to get abortions, and especially for young kids at this point, young kids to get abortions, you're going to see more and more and more. It's going to be brain drain on women. It's going to be brain drain because they're the ones who bear the responsibility for this. And very often,

it's not about, you know, this fight of, I got, I'm going to, you're killing a baby or whatever. No. Very often,

the decision is made, and we're talking way often, 90% of the time, it's made before it's really even a thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is like, we've talked about this before,

but I mean, the Ohio case is a, is a terrific example. Here you have, it is not a bug in the system. It is a feature. It is intentional that the, the system is intended to turn people into mothers against their will. You're right. That is exactly. So, and it doesn't matter to the right whether those people in question are 10 years old or 40 years old. They do not give a shit. What they want is more women to be burdened with children. The men aren't burdened. They want more women to be burdened with children that they do not want. There's nothing else.

There's no other way to read that conversation. These are in every case where somebody seeks an abortion, that is a woman who wants an abortion. That means a woman who does not want to have that child. Yeah. In every case, that's literally. So the state is intervening and saying, no, fuck that. That is not your call.

Your body does not, you do not have autonomy over your own body. And like the intent of that, I think, is to pull women out of competition with men. I just, I just, I know I've come to that, but I just cannot understand how it could be anything else. I cannot. And it's, and it's not just,

it's not just a war on women. We talked about it early when this happened, but it's a class war too. women. We talked about it early when this happened, but it's a class war too. Oh, fucking right it is. Yep. This is something that way more often, people that are living in poverty are going to have to have children that they didn't want

because they can't make it that 800 miles across the state line or whatever it is, two state lines, three state lines, four state lines they've got to go across. They can't just travel on a whim for work to just up and leave for a couple days. They can't do it. Their jobs don't allow it. They don't have the funds. They don't have the resources. The childcare, the family support. When you are somebody who's fucking has is wealthy, or even if you're just middle class class this is burdensome and it's annoying

but it's not impossible yeah right when you're somebody who has no means it is sentencing you to have a child because you had sex yep yeah it's and it's it's and the the entirety of the burden of responsibility from a sexual act is born only by one partner in that sexual activity. It is a grotesquerie. It just is. I think back, and I know this is like a weird analogy, but I remember when I was like 21, 22, and I was broke as fuck, and I had my first apartment, and I had this car, and the alternator went out on the car, and I got the alternator fixed.

They put a bad alternator in it. They put like a not OEM alternator in it and it failed again a second time and they wouldn't cover it. It was a kind of a shady shop and like got towed to the same shop. And I was like, hey, I was just here like two weeks ago. And they're like, ah, yeah, you know,

bad parts is bad parts. And I'm like 22, I don't know anything. And my car just sat in their lot and I didn't have the money to get my car back from, it was like $400. And so I was like, well, fuck. And for months, I only, I was down to one, like we were down to one car. For months, I did not have access to my car until I could scrape together the four or 500 bucks. It's very easy for many, many people to look at an expense of just a few hundred dollars. And that few hundred dollars can take you months or longer if you can even get it. Look at like Modest Needs. Modest Needs, their entire business model as a

charity is built around giving away about $700 to pull people from the brink of poverty. And you look at that and you say, man, we are going to make it that much harder for this specific class of women to have access to their own bodily autonomy. That is what we are going to do with this. And we're going to invade your Facebook messages. And the other problem too is it other problem too, is it's going to, it's going to now, having a kid isn't cheap. No. And you're already in poverty. Yep.

So now what? You'll never ever climb, it's going to be hard. It's exponentially harder the more children you have. Yep. And you're basically forcing those people to have kids

in a forced birth scenario when they could, and way more often, we're talking way more often than not, it would have been nothing but a day after pill or something. Yeah. A hundred percent, man. It's, you can, you can take a, you can have a medical, just a pill abortion up to 12 weeks. Yeah. Up to 12 weeks. But in, in, in these states where they have restricted access to abortion, and then, you know, in this case of this story here, where they're logging into your fucking or subpoenaing your fucking private messages between you and your parent, we're living in a different world than we had before, right? So we're living in a world where a lot of our communication is not verbal. It's not just

like a, like if I had a conversation just verbally with my dad, my dad would just lie about it, right? He could just be like, I didn't talk to Tom about that. He just, I just didn't talk to Tom about that. But now so much of our communication is written. There's a record of so much of it. And we are going to get into this fucking spy versus spy espionage level shit where it's like, oh, fuck, I'm going to talk about, you know, an abortion. I better not fucking text message it. I better not fucking messenger or signal or telegram or Instagram or fucking whatever fucking because all that shit could be subpoenaed. All the regular normal ways that humans now communicate with one another, all that shit you got to put on the backboard. Whoa.

People are going to get fucking burner phones to get abortions, man. I mean, the way I guess to prevent this from happening is anything that you know you don't want to keep, you have to do the, like, there's a private setting on Facebook Messenger that basically makes it so it, like, deletes it after

you read it or whatever. Oh, really? Okay. So there is a way to do it. I'm not quite sure you can look it up, but there is a way. It's so you can cheat on your spouse. I mean, like, let's do this. That's what it's for. It's made for that. But it's really like you can delete it.

I can't believe this. So, but like there is, there is a way to do it. So, you know, I don't think you should throw it away because it is end-to-end encrypted. Supposedly they can't read it, but they can give it to them, right? And so you can take the- So does Facebook itself delete it? I think, I don't know that. I don't know that.

Because I wonder if they would still comply with the subpoena. They did mention it in this article. They mentioned that it can be lost or can be pulled out if you delete it or whatever. But delete it like in this special way, which is like make this a secret or whatever. And it just goes away

supposedly. But I don't think it ever goes away. I don't think anything ever goes away. So that'll be really interesting to see when that comes up, right? If Facebook is like, yeah, we said that, but we really didn't mean it. Yeah. And who knows? Right. I wonder, I am always dubious of the idea that

anything that's typed out isn't forever. Yeah. And like my thought is like, God damn, we're going to be in a place where we're going to have to just, you're going to have to kick it old school if you're talking about- Yeah, you're going to have to smoke signal something.

Right. Or pick up the phone and actually have a conversation. You're going to have to have voice only conversation because there's no superior pigeon. It's the way to be a carrier pigeon. It started though. It started. Yeah.

He's a life changer, miracle arranger. Born to the virgin mom in a manger. Water to wine, he's a drink exchanger. And he died for your sins. This story comes from pinknews.co.uk. I'm afraid there's people enjoying it with us. The picture? On the video.

The picture is just so good. This is a terrific stop. It's so good. You know somebody went through their live photo on iPhone and was just like, Oh, no, no, no. This is the one. This is the one.

Lauren Boebert looks hilarious in this. She looks unbelievably surprised. It's outstanding. She always kind of looks a little befuddled. Yeah. Yeah. Republican Lauren Boebert says she wants biblical citizenship training

in public schools. So I read this. So her comment, her comments. We can play it maybe, Tom. Let's see. Oh, yeah. We could just play it. Let's play it. Maybe we need to have some sort of legislation that requires constitutional life and biblical citizenship training in our schools. And that's how we get things turned around. But there has to be real leadership from the Republicans, especially now. Biblical citizenship training

cecil what the fuck does that even mean i have no idea what that means neither is lauren let me be clear right right neither is lauren bobert this is all they are they are playing provocateur yes and they know that that there has been a base basically trump, Trump was the churn, right? Trump churned up all these fucking people who've never been involved in politics ever. And he tuned them up to be like, look at who you can hurt. Just by following me,

look at what I'll do for you. I will hurt people, and you liking me will also hurt people. Yes, right. And this is a good thing for everybody. And they glommed onto it. They were like, no, this is perfect. I want people to feel bad.

So I will do what I can because I don't give a fuck if you fuck things up. As long as I get to hurt people along the way, it's good. And so they all recognized, I think every one of these people recognized that they can pluck from this group of absolute schmucks

and tune them up as much as possible by saying the most outrageous shit they possibly can think of and it plays to their base because their base is literally muck that somebody dragged up

in the last election cycle. This is bottom feeder Republican deputy bullshit. Yes. It doesn't mean anything. You're right. What is biblical citizenship training mean? She doesn't know. These are just three words that she likes.

And she's shit them together. What the fuck is biblical citizenship? It doesn't even, that literally, am I going to become a citizen of the Bible? What does that mean? It doesn't mean anything. This is also a human being

who is so deeply uneducated on literally every meaningful topic you can be educated on, who is advocating for more education. I would take a fucking biblical literacy test side by side and head to head with Lauren Boebert. In a second. I would, oh, I would say,

and I am not by any stretch a biblical scholar. I do it with any Republican. I would do it right now and I would fucking slam dunk that shit. I do it with any Republican. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh my God.

I would do the same thing with naming parts of the women's reproductive system. Yeah. Oh my God. I would do the same thing with naming parts of the women's reproductive system. Yeah. Yes. Because you know they don't know what the fuck's going on. They have no idea. They don't know.

No idea. They're like, no man, if there's a rape, your body knows how to shoot that thing out like a cannon or whatever. These people, they say the most outrageous shit.

Insane shit. Where you're just like, oh my God, dude. Yeah. How did you have kids? Like, how did that happen? Like, did you just, like, did she have a cup

and stand across the room and did you play like a fucking, like, did you shoot a three-pointer? What happened? What happened for you to even fuck to have children? You don't know that much. You don't even know that much.

No, man, this is- Thank you, Ben Shapiro, being like, I don't, I think a wet pussy's a disease. That doesn't, my wife says that doesn't happen. My wife doesn't have a wet pussy. I'm sorry. She's never said anything about this I don't know. I think a wet pussy is a disease. My wife says that doesn't happen. My wife doesn't have a wet pussy. I'm sorry.

She's never said anything about this. There is no such thing as a wet pussy. I think that's a myth. It's like a clitoris. Look, all I know is whenever I'm horny, she's got a headache. So I'm not sure. I don't know. I don't even know how any of you all have sex.

No, but seriously, like these people say the fucking quiet part out loud. And you're just like, you don't, but a hundred percent. Any, I mean, I will take any test. I don't care what it is. Like the fucking LSAT, I'll probably beat them. I cannot imagine a world where Lauren, Lauren Boebert is advocating for some kind of testing. She can't fail. I cannot imagine it.

She would fail any test. I actually think she could write the test and write the answers. You could spin her around blindfolded three times and she would fail that test. I'm not sure she knows where she's at most of the time. It's so bad. It's so bad. I'm so embarrassed because Colorado is a very populous state. Fucking A, man. And this district has so many people. I mean, I can't believe there's that many people in her district that are saying her. Unless it's to just tune other people up

and you don't care about it because she's not there for you. She's not doing anything for you. If she's on a TV show talking about this garbage. And that's the thing too, is like none of these fucking right-wing provocateur, liar, bottom-feeder, bullshit

troglodytes, they don't actually introduce and advance any legislation. MTG and Lauren Boebert, Matt Gaetz, and fucking Josh Hawley, none of these, and I would have said Clawthorne, but he got fired. None of these fucking people actually do their job. They don't do any work.

What they are is fucking noisemakers. You're right. They are fucking New Year's Eve fucking noisemakers. Spin them around and they make a cranking sound. That's it. That's it. That's it. They have no fucking purpose. You're right. So we'd like to thank our patrons. Of course, we'd like to thank all our patrons. We'd like to thank our patrons. Of course, we'd like to thank all our patrons.

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Hey guys, my name's Tracy and I live in Austin and I just heard about the Alex Jones settlement details. And I have heard about you guys wanting their, or wanting his desk. I thought that, uh, if it would be helpful and you guys actually are able to arrange something,

I do have a space where I could store it for a few weeks and I have access to a trailer. I'd be happy to pick it up for free. Oh, I love it. Just for you guys to be able to get that. If that's an option that ever worked out, please give me a call.

That is fucking outstanding, Tracy. That is so good. Thank you so much. Here's the thing. So Tracy's referring to the judgment that came out, the $45 million judgment, the punitive damage judgment

that you mentioned might be capped because there might be a cap on that. But when they were deciding this, we had a conversation with Knowledge Fight a while ago. And you had said, I wonder if they're going to make it so he can't do something anymore,

can't record anymore. And when they were deciding it, some of the thoughts were, how can we damage him so he has to not do this anymore? So it's not that they were going to pass down a rule for this or a law or something that would stop him from doing it. They were just going to make it so he just didn't have any kind of means to doing it anymore. And that every single cent he would

make off of it would, in the future, would always be given to someone else. So he wouldn't do it. He would just stop doing it. Yeah. Whatever takes him off the air. And I think that will. I hope that it will. I think it will. I think they're probably going to have to, like, sell his whole stuff. My sincerest hope is that that cell phone problem that he's got sends him to fucking prison. That's what I hope too. I hope it sells him to prison. We talked about it on the stream tonight, which was really bad and choppy because we had terrible internet. But we talked about the Roger Stone thing.

And Roger Stone got a naked picture of his wife from him, which is terrible. But there's other crazy shit on there. And the January 6th committee has asked for his cell phone records. So it's a pretty bad situation for Alex. I don't know if they're ever going to sell that desk, but if they will, I'm all in. I'm all in. I will fucking mortgage everything in my life to get that desk. I will all in. I will fucking mortgage everything in my life to get that desk. That desk. I will do anything I can to suddenly have an InfoWars desk. I'll change the entire structure

of our studio to fit it in and make it our thing. That is our thing now. I will fucking get it here. I will drive down myself. I'll carry it on my back from Texas if I have to.

Part of me wants to buy it and then gift it to the Knowledge Fight guy. That would be so funny. How great. The only thing is you know they're going to put ketchup on it. Dan would just fucking fill it with his fucking Cholula sauce. They're going to have ketchup and like a coat hanger just sitting on it.

He wouldn't take care of it. I say that, but our table is filthy. It is. Like our table, like you can't see it. But that's the thing, you can't see it. You can't see it. It's out say that, but our table is filthy. It is. Like our table, like you can't see it. But that's the thing, you can't see it. You can't see it. You can't see it. It's out of camera, but our table is filthy. But it's at least out of camera. So if that's a chance though, I would 100%.

I would so do it. I want it. I want that desk. I want that desk. I would put myself in financial hardship. Oh yeah, I would put you in financial hardship too. Genuinely financial hardship. I would be like, no.

Like, yeah, I'm going to do this. It would be the only thing I. I'd be like, like, yeah, I'm going to do this. I'm going to, it'd be the only thing I own. And I would be like, no, I'm good. I'm okay. I don't care if I have to sleep under a bridge on the InfoWars desk. I'll sleep on the InfoWars desk. Outstanding. Tom, we got a message from Michael. Yeah. Michael says, holy shit. If Georgia gives you a tax credit for a fetus and you do go get an abortion, then the state of Georgia has subsidized the abortion. We finally did it. Taxpayer money for abortions. That's so true, man. That's so great.

That's so true. That's so amazing. I love it. So this week we want to thank, of course, the dear old dads, the other two thirds of the dear old dads for coming on. Tom, of course, is part of that podcast, but Thomas Smith and Eli Bosns, the other two thirds of the Dear Old Dads for coming on. Tom, of course, is part of that podcast,

but Thomas Smith and Eli Bosnick are the other two dads. And First Explicit Dad Show, I mean, you got to give it props for First Explicit Dad Show. The only explicit show

in the children and family category on iTunes. It's fucking amazing. It's absolutely outstanding. You guys, I mean, cheers for that. And it is,

I've also talked to people and I've listened to myself. It's absolutely outstanding. You guys, I mean, cheers for that. And it is, I've also talked to people and I've listened to myself. It is not a show just for parents. No, yeah. It's a show about values. It is, very much so. And so it's not about just like being a dad. It's about your experience being a father,

but also what your values are. Right. And people really do enjoy it, whether they're parents or not. So go check it out. Dear Old Dads will have a link in the show notes for this episode. Also, I want to remind people that I will be streaming on Twitch on August 19th,

starting August 19th, around in the afternoon, all the way, I'll be playing Path of Exile for like a week, like a week straight. So if you want to come check out and hang out with me, go to twitch.tv slash DissonancePod and follow us on Twitch. If you follow us, when I go live, you'll know. You'll get a little email notification. Also, you can check out the, I'm going to put it up, I'm going to, this weekend, so before this release is wide, on Monday, there should be a schedule. I'm going to sit down and actually figure out exactly when I'm going to be streaming. So there will be a schedule for me to, um, that I will be actually live. So you'll know when I go live, you'll know every day and I'm going to keep to that schedule. So, uh, so go check it out. Um, I'm going to be pretending, not pretending. I'm going to be playing the character

of Jesus. So I'm going to actually take my hair down. I'm going to have a crown of thorns that I'm not going to wear all the time because it is a little unpleasant to wear, but I will wear it sometimes. And I'm just going to be Jesus playing violent video games. And I think it's really funny. And you could come interact with me as Jesus and I'll play along and it'll be fun.

And it'll be nice and blasphemous too, which I think will be fun for our audience. So if you want to come hang out and be blasphemous for a little while, hang out with Jesus as he plays video games, it should be a lot of fun. So go check it out. It's going to be, like I say, starting on the 19th.

And then we're going to be working my way all the way through the week. I only have a week off of work though. So I'm not going to be streaming indefinitely, but I will be doing it for a week. So it'll be fun. That's a great amount of time. It's a perfect amount of time to decide if I like it.

Test it out, buddy. To decide if I like it. All right. So that is going to wrap it up for this week. We are going to leave you like we always do with the Skeptic's Creed. Credulity is not a virtue. It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue, hypno-Babylon bullshit. Couched in scientician, double bubble, toil and trouble, pseudo-quasi-alternative,

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