Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 643: Truck Nutz Dating App

Episode Date: August 22, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:57 to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there is no welcome mat. This is episode 643 of Cognitive Dissonance, and we are not doing YouTube this week. I was under the weather on our normal record date, so we are recording late on a Friday night because I was not up to it on Thursday so this is a talkie only
Starting point is 00:01:26 kind of feels like a silent film era when we don't do like video now I know right it feels so different but yeah we have to last time we said that though Ian animated it so I don't know if he'll have enough strength to do that
Starting point is 00:01:42 he did he animated it Ian I demand that you animate this I don't know if he's going to get to it you know He did. He animated it. Ian, I demand that you animate this. I don't know if he's going to get to it. You know, it's funny because when you want him to do something, he won't do it. But if he does something, he's like, fuck it. If he finds it on his own, then yes, he'll do it. So we'll see. That is actually like, that is I think Ian's entire job description is,
Starting point is 00:01:59 we'll do what he wants if he feels like it. If he feels like it. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. Tom, before we get started, I wanted to talk to you about Cheney losing. You know, it's funny. This last week in Wyoming,
Starting point is 00:02:13 the lady who's the election denier, she wound up winning by a wide margin over Liz Cheney. And so now we're at this place where you kind of feel weird that a Cheney lost. Right. And you kind of feel like, I don't know, that doesn't seem right. Then there's the other piece too that I really want to talk about is that she hinted at a presidential run. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And I very, very, very, very, very much hope it's an independent run. Oh, you think? See, I hope it's a Republican run. Yeah, Republican run. And I very, very, very, very, very much hope it's an independent run. Oh, you think? See, I hope it's a Republican run. Yeah, Republican run, she won't. I don't think she'll draw more than Trump. I don't know that she will, but she might split the vote. I think she might cause damage. She's so credible in
Starting point is 00:02:57 the anti-Trump space that I don't want to... Yeah, she's caused damage enough for her to be the nominee. I don't know if it's enough for her to be the nominee, but I think it could be enough to leave. If Trump becomes the general election candidate, I think it would be enough damage done throughout the course of the primary to just destroy turnout.
Starting point is 00:03:22 See, here's what I know about Cheney's. They are fucking assholes. Yeah. So I would not put it past her to create an independent group and just run against Trump. To just pull votes, straight pull votes.
Starting point is 00:03:37 To just be like, I'm going to be the right's independent. I'm going to be the center right candidate. So vote for me. I'm the to be the center-right candidate. So vote for me. I'm the center-right candidate. And suck up all those center-right votes that are currently voting for him.
Starting point is 00:03:52 That would be awesome. That would be like a shotgun blast to the face. You know? Just Cheney style. They are known for a shotgun blast to the face. Absolutely. Oh, man. They could call it the locked and loaded party.
Starting point is 00:04:08 You know what I mean? Yes. They should do some sort of play on that. You know what I mean? It would be fucking amazing. The 410 party. When I saw the Big Moose party, since she's from Iowa. Yeah, Big Moose.
Starting point is 00:04:25 When I saw that big moose party, since she's from Iowa. Yeah, big moose. When I saw that she, like, and it was pretty, like, there was no polling that indicated she wasn't going to lose. No, she wasn't going to lose. Yeah. I was a little interested to see the race because polling has been off so bad, but the polling there was fucking spot on. It was. It was. And, like, I was, like, part of me was disappointed, right? It was.
Starting point is 00:04:43 And like, I was like, part of me was disappointed, right? Because like, here's a can't, here's like one of only a handful of people who voted to impeach who's been on her side, speaking some truth to power here. I don't like Liz Cheney, but to see her lose tells you something bad about the people voting. Except that they're in Wyoming and you have to temper all of this. And I, and I realized you have to temper all this with like it's not a real state it's the least populated state
Starting point is 00:05:12 in America nobody's there man it's like fucking empty it's absolutely it's an empty state it's an interesting way to look at it because it makes you wonder what happens in,
Starting point is 00:05:30 let's just say Texas. Yeah, right. What happens in, you know, and I'm trying to think of these states that are kind of purple or like maybe could be purple. You're talking like North Carolina. What happens in North Carolina? Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:43 What happens in these states that are, you know, that last time were on the brink? Yep. What happens in Arizona? What happens in, you know, who knows? I think if she was in a state that had a city of any size, she would have done so much better. Wyoming, the Democrat,
Starting point is 00:06:01 isn't even going to run against whoever's out there. No, yeah, right. They're not even going to put a Democrat against them. If they do, it's just for show. It's not for anything else. They're not dropping any funding behind this. So it's just a Democrat for show at best. So the Democrats don't have anyone to vote for,
Starting point is 00:06:18 but the Democrats don't live up there. Yeah, right. No, they don't. I just looked it up out of curiosity. The largest city in Wyoming is Chey Yeah, right. No, they don't. I just looked it up out of curiosity. The largest city in Wyoming is Cheyenne, Wyoming. Take a guess how many people. 260,000.
Starting point is 00:06:36 64,000. Shut the fuck up, Tom. Nobody lives in Wyoming, man. Shut the fuck up. 64,000? Are you serious? Dude, I'm fuck up. 64,000. 64,000? Are you serious? Dude, I'm dead serious. 64,000 people? Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:49 That's not even a Bears game, man. Dude, I know. I know. There's nobody there. That's why it's sort of like, yes, she lost. But, I mean, nobody's there to vote. she didn't like, like, like nobody's there to vote. It's, it's a, it's a state that like has no meaningful, like educated electorate. It just doesn't. You know what I mean? It's a bunch of fucking rural farm folk. That's who's out there. It's not, it's like, it's not, I don't
Starting point is 00:07:19 want it to be rep. I don't want to, I don't want to acknowledge that it might be representative of how America feels. And I guess like I look at wyoming and i'm like how can it be they don't have a city 64 000 is half the size of a decent sized suburb out here yeah it's it's tiny it's nothing there is there are at least 10 cities around me that are bigger yes right yeah i know that's the thing it's like i It's like I live in a suburb that is as far west as you can go from Chicago. If you go any further west, and it's not an exaggeration. There's no more suburbs.
Starting point is 00:07:52 It's just cool. It's not a suburb. You fall off the edge of the world. There's nothing. If I go west of my driveway, Earth stops spinning. There's nothing there. Yeah. It's here there'll be monsters.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And my town has 200,000 people. Yeah. The town immediately adjacent is 147,000 people. Yeah. 64,000. That's their big city, dude. Yeah. And you're 40 miles out of Chicago.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Yeah. You're 40 miles out of Chicago. 40 miles. Yeah. Do you remember when we were up in Michigan and we were at my uncle's land and we were shooting and there was that guy. He's like, oh, I don't like going into the big city of Grand Rapids. And you're like, the big city of Grand Rapids, Michigan?
Starting point is 00:08:33 Nobody outside of Michigan knows about Grand Rapids. That's not a big city. Two exits on the expressway. Grand Rapids has 200,000 people. Does it really? Yeah, man. To put 64,000 people in perspective, Cecil, Grand Rapids, Michigan, which nobody that's outside of Michigan has ever heard of. And why would you?
Starting point is 00:08:55 That's 200,000 people, man. That's three and a change times bigger than the biggest city in Wyoming. I recognize you. And I think you're probably right. I just hope that this isn't the turning of the Republican Party to become the party. Because like, what are you happy about? I saw the gloat the next day,
Starting point is 00:09:15 the gloating on social media the next day. And it was all about like, that shows you when, you know, Republicans are rhinos or whatever. And you're thinking, no, like this person literally just said, you can't do these things. You don't just control what's law and what isn't.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Right. Yeah. And they're getting thrown outside of this party. You're like, how do you, because really all you are, all you can be is the party of, it's like trolling. It's like the party of hurting someone else or trying to like say ha-ha, you know, that kind of thing. That's really all it is. Yeah, there's no, like genuinely, and I mean this, what does the MAGA crowd stand for policy-wise?
Starting point is 00:10:03 What are you about? What are your ideals? What are your ideals? What matters to you? Like what mode is nothing. It's like you guys, you want, it's, it is a desire to rally around a mean spirited bully because you're right.
Starting point is 00:10:17 You have been bullied and you want to now be the bully because you feel for the first time in your life that your enormous privilege and power is beginning to erode and that frightens you. And this guy is willing to carry your fucking banner. You know, I, I think about the two sides. I think about the Democrats and I think about the Republicans. When I think about the Republicans, I think it is literally only ever about a cult of personality. It's never about the issues because the issues are all sort of monolithic. Don't do anything, right? Stop something from happening is conservatism.
Starting point is 00:10:52 So it's like stop it from happening. Okay, that's anybody can do that. America, let it work itself out in payroll. Exactly. Deciding which person you want to be your figurehead. But on the other side, there really is a difference between Bernie's policies and Biden's policies and even Swalwell's policies.
Starting point is 00:11:13 You know what I mean? Like everybody on that stage had a different perspective and a different set of priorities and a different idea of how they wanted America to move forward. And when I think about the other side, I literally never think that. I'm always just like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:26 it's just going to be like a popularity contest. Yeah, well, because the right has done a really good job of being monolithic. They really do. Because it's easy. They don't have any substantive policy differences. That's just a matter of like which fucking skin. It's like when you play a video game
Starting point is 00:11:44 and it's all the same character, but you can fucking wear different clothes. Yeah, you can buy in different skin, like a DLC. They just have DLC content. I feel like the entire Republican clown car is just because we've watched these debates now for years. somebody for being bad at debating or like forgetting which fucking departments he's going to eliminate writing shit down on your hand or like whatever other just wildly anti-intellectual dumb ass bullshit they've done over the years so like and that's all fair but at the end of the day they're all the same guy they're a hundred percent all the same guy And you can't say that as much. Like, you can't say, like, Liz Warren is substantively the same as Joe Biden, who is substantively the same as Marianne Williamson.
Starting point is 00:12:35 You know, like, name any of them. They all had different ideas. They're all really different. They all had different ideas, too, on how they wanted to move forward. They all had very different ideas. So it's just different. You're right. It's just different.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Dr. Rumick says says sick people are getting worse and we're running out of time. So this story comes from Ars Technica. This is a fucking bit of good news. Loathsome anti-vax group run by RFK Jr. gets metapermaban. Finally. The permaban says it came with their,
Starting point is 00:13:04 this group is saying that the band came without warning met is like no man like you violated our shit so many times it's fucking ridiculous and this one straw is too much what's wonderful about this is like rfk and chd they are like one of the big 12 promoters of anti-vax disinformation. Yeah. And that's great. And this is on the heels of now polio starting to make a comeback in New York City. They're finding it in places in New York City,
Starting point is 00:13:39 which is something that they hadn't in forever. And it's because of herd immunity protecting people for so long, and they just don't think it's a threat. And the same thing happens with COVID, same thing happened with literally measles, with all these vaccinations that we had, that these people just hand-waved away and then actively pursued other people trying to convince them not to take these vaccines,
Starting point is 00:14:06 all the different vaccines. There's kids in my family, like in my extended family, that are unvaccinated. And the comments are, well, they're all healthy. And you say, yeah, they're all healthy because of herd immunity. They are benefiting off the backs of everyone else who's gotten vaccinated. They don't naturally have fucking immunity out of this stuff. And if that stuff were introduced into anywhere around them, they would be fucked,
Starting point is 00:14:31 but they're lucky because they live in a country where most people aren't schmucks and get a fucking vaccine. Yeah. And it's also like, Hey, yeah, dumb, dumb.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Most people are healthy until they're not. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Like we're recording on a friday because i was not feeling well on thursday but i felt fucking fine on wednesday that's how that works like yeah like everybody is healthy until they're not or almost everybody right there are some people i know who have chronic shit going on. But like, that is a goofy, foolish way to think about it. And the thing is that like, an attack on vaccination categor type of vaccine technologically or one specific vaccine in particular because of an ingredient somebody had a weird opposition to. But the thing is that it's not.
Starting point is 00:15:35 And this anti-vax mindset, it conflates a lot of that stuff. It combines a lot of that stuff. But at the end of the day, it casts aspersion on the idea of the value of vaccination itself. And there's nothing more. There's no better tool in our medical toolbox than the tool that doesn't get you sick. Right? Like, we've got a lot of great tools if you get sick, but none of them are as good as what if you just don't get sick? Yeah. That's just always better. Yeah. And that's, and these things are dangerous. Like this is,
Starting point is 00:16:10 these are dangerous disease. They don't just make vaccines willy nilly for no reason. The problem is, is that they don't seem dangerous because you haven't had to experience them or the effects are more mild because they're not getting revved up and everybody's getting it. But yeah, you could still be seriously fucked up by a lot of stuff. And polio, holy shit. Are we seriously talking about that
Starting point is 00:16:36 right now? Polio, the thing we should have eradicated from the face of the earth because we had it on the ropes. Dude, we were, we have, I really thought that we were going to see the second disease, the second human disease destroyed in our lifetime, right? Smallpox was eradicated entirely. There is no smallpox because of vaccination.
Starting point is 00:16:59 And I thought polio, I thought we were so close. We were like so close to eradicating wild smallpox. And now, not only is it not eradicated, but it's here in the States. And the only reason I say, and here in the States, as if that's something is because up until very recently, polio had been confined only to some fairly rural and difficult to reach and harder to educate and harder to like poorer regions of the world, more rural regions of the world by and large. So we're talking about like eradicating polio in like remote corners of Afghanistan. Yeah. and that it has spread into the more developed world tells you that like the problem of sort of releasing the pressure
Starting point is 00:17:50 off of the vaccine like bulwark is that like there's nothing that prevents this shit. There's no other, these are scourges, man. They're fucking scourges. And now we got to worry about that shit. And like now monkeypox is not nothing right it's it's not like it's not covid but there's tens of thousands of cases now in the united states of monkeypox yeah and like we're looking around it's like all right well that
Starting point is 00:18:18 genie's out of the fucking lamp too and that's gonna get real hard i was listening to something the other day that's gonna take probably a few. I was listening to something the other day. That's going to take probably a few years, if we can, to squeeze that genie back into the lamp. And if we do it, we'll do it through vaccination. We will not do it because we will just treat people that get monkeypox. That won't stop the spread.
Starting point is 00:18:38 The only way to stop it is vaccination. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm glad that they are taking these people off because they are just misinformation machines and they lie and lie and lie and there feels like forever that there's no repercussions that they can just do and say whatever they want we these these companies need to take control of this more readily yes Yes, man. I realize, I realize that sometimes this can, this can swing the wrong way. This happens to us all the time, especially on
Starting point is 00:19:12 YouTube. When we talk about, uh, you know, vaccination, for instance, like I, we probably won't release this portion as its own story because it's almost certain to get us to strike. It's almost certain to get us to strike, even though we are vociferously saying, no, you should not fucking let these people back onto Facebook. Vaccines save lives. People should get vaccines.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Even though we say all the things that are, you know, a hundred percent CDC backed. I even sent a message to YouTube once and was like, I never say anything that disagrees with the CDC. People should get vaccines. I've never said anything different. They still said, sorry, we reviewed your stuff, and we
Starting point is 00:19:53 disagree. I know this may be saddened to you, but you get a strike for it. Yeah, and it's like, you also want to be like, alright, YouTube, you don't actually review anything. I don't actually believe that you've listened to anything. Nobody did. But, you know, we've got to take the bullhorn from these guys. We have to take the fucking bullhorn from these fuckers. They don't deserve it.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And it sucks because every single time, it's either too much or too little. And Facebook always airs on the side of too little. And this is not a too much case at all. This is not a too much case. This is letting this stuff run for years. And those is not a too much case at all. This is not a too much case. This is letting this stuff run for years. And those other 11 probably still on. I know, man. I know. But this does give me hope that those fuckers will be taken down. We're running out of time
Starting point is 00:20:36 and we still have to find a way out of this mess. Sister, it comes to the New York Times. And this is also this is a spot of genuinely good news. And I thought it would make sense to kind of go through some of the provisions that are in the new climate and health bill. So the climate and health bill, which nobody thought was going to pass. Nobody thought this was going to pass. And at the very last minute, Manchin and Sinema both signed on and agreed to it. And it has passed. It has passed and it is signed into law by President Biden on Tuesday. So it is a substantial trillion plus dollar piece of legislation.
Starting point is 00:21:15 It is a huge piece of legislation. It involves basically a round of spending and tax cuts and savings and new revenue aimed at, now they're calling it inflation reduction, but a huge parts of this are about healthcare and the climate. I wanted to say too, you know, this is one of those things that like while Sinema did sign on, she and they wound up knocking some of the bigger things out of this. Yeah. That when this initially was supposed to go through,
Starting point is 00:21:45 this was going to be a lot more wide ranging, it covered a lot more things like, you know, childcare and plenty of other stuff that just got fucking eaten out of this bill by a lot of shitty Democrats. A lot of shitty Democrats because that's who was arguing over this.
Starting point is 00:22:03 This is not a Republican thing, right? This is that's who was arguing over this. It's not, this is not a Republican thing, right? This is the Democrats who were arguing over whether or not they were going to provide social safety nets to American people. Absolutely. We have to cast that blame on the Democrats who fucking cut this apart with a scalpel and finally agreed to a much smaller bill, a much less impact bill than was originally proposed. And I think we have to say that, even though they did finally come to the table, they came to the table with a knife
Starting point is 00:22:38 to cut a bunch of shit out of this. They did. And to name names, the majority of the cuts, and not a small majority, but the vast majority of these cuts came from two fucking people. That's the vast majority of the, and that's,
Starting point is 00:22:54 we are hostage. When you have a majority that is this fucking slim, you are held hostage to the whims of fucking narcissistic psychopaths. And I think that there's a truth to that. I think guys and gals like Cinema and Mansion, like they're in this in part because this is the time they get to flex the big muscle.
Starting point is 00:23:16 They get to be fucking, because otherwise how fucking important was Joe Mansion, Cecil, before? Right, before? I never fucking heard of Joe Manchin in my fucking life the only reason I knew Kristen Sinema was because she won like a run off Kristen Sinema was exciting for a hot minute because she used to be a Green Party
Starting point is 00:23:34 candidate and now she's become this crazy like center right fucking Democrat she's awful but she was actually kind of she was openly bisexual or openly lesbian. I don't remember which. She was a Green Party candidate.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Like, she was actually fairly progressive. But I think, I think Kristen Sinema is very much in it for the attention. And I think Joe Manchin is very much in it for the fucking adoration. And like, I think he wants to be the guy who's like, let me be the guy and run it past old Joe mansion. Cause these people were fucking nobody. If we had 52 seats, they'd be nobody.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Yeah. And if you had 52 seats that were all like that level of progressive, absolutely. Cause you got 48 like that. Like we have two complete shitheads. We had the votes for the bigger, we had 48 out of 50 votes for the bigger bill, for the bill with all the fucking social safety net shit in it. They had 48 votes for it. We got this bill, which is good, but it's not great. It's not what it was. It's not what it was, man.
Starting point is 00:24:41 So I'm totally there with you, but this is not a reason to be like, well, you know, I guess nothing works like that. No, you need more. You're absolutely right. We need more Democrats. You need a majority that's so large that you take Joe Manchin and say, go be a fucking Republican. We don't give a shit. But this also shows you that stuff can get done even with shitheads. Right. This is this is the other thing, too, is like is like, this is not take your ball and go home. This is not vote third party. And look, I want to encourage people.
Starting point is 00:25:11 This is something I wanted to talk about for a while. There's all these people who think you should be voting third party. I will tell you this. I would happily see a third, fourth, and fifth party in the United States, but you got gotta start it small and it's gotta grow you can't just expect a third party just to fucking pop into existence on a
Starting point is 00:25:33 presidential run and garner enough votes to matter it's gotta grow from a grassroots state and and city and local level and grow and grow and grow and grow across the country so that people are voting in state elections for different types of governors, for different types of state senators. And there's a multitude of them on multiple ballots across the country doing things in their states so people recognize that that's a viable option for the time when they finally make that jump into president and the president, you can't just will it cause you want it to happen. You got to make it happen and you got to make it happen on a state level.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I wholeheartedly encourage anyone who wants a third fucking or a fourth party or a fifth party, go out there and start making it happen because it can happen, but it can't just make itself into existence on a presidential, like four months before, structurally, you've got to do a couple of things. You've got to get third party credibility at the local level before you shoot up to the national level. That's exactly your point. And then I also think we have to push really fucking hard for some form of ranked choice voting. Ranked choice. As long as we have anything other than ranked choice voting, the two big dogs in the room will out-compete any third dog. Yep.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Every single time. Every single time. It just numerically is never going to happen otherwise. So you've got to do that. But you could change a lot on a state level, Tom. You could change a lot on it. Look at fucking ranked choice voting occurs in different places across the country. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah, man. in different places across the country. Yeah, man. Ranked choice voting is the only way that we will ever see real progressive candidates forming a real progressive party. It's it. I can't see. And the way to get there,
Starting point is 00:27:36 the way to get there is to keep putting more Democrats in power. Because the most progressive big dog in the room, now granted, they're not as progressive as you and I would like, but the most progressive big dog in the room, Now, granted, they're not as progressive as you and I would like, but the most progressive big dog in the room who are the only people that are going to win in these big national elections
Starting point is 00:27:52 are Democrats. You've got to play the game because the other side is playing the game. And that's why we don't have abortion in half this country. But if you started to work on a third party system and you started to get more and more of those people in power and you convinced, you know, because half this country. But if you started to work on a third party system and you started to get more and more of those people in power and you convinced,
Starting point is 00:28:09 you know, because you're going to have to get that third party to be pretty powerful in your state before you're going to be able to do a rank choice system. But Alaska and Maine in the presidential, in the presidential race have rank choice voting. In the presidential race. Yeah. This is not, this is not,
Starting point is 00:28:23 they decided on this and they can decide on this in a state. So if it can become, you know, sure. Are you going to get it in some states? Probably not. But if you get it, start getting in more and more and more and more states, there's a way better chance that the third party candidate can make it. Abso-fucking-lutely, man. Absolutely. So let's talk about what this bill does do because parts of this are great.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Yeah, I think it's great. Some of it's great. So $490 billion in what they call spending and tax cuts. This includes Affordable Care Act subsidies, Medicare prescription drug benefit, including a $35 cap on co-payments for insulin, clean electricity. There are tax credits, a ton of really great tax credits that should spur a lot of clean energy, including wind, solar, geothermal, advanced nuclear, extending existing tax credits for wind and solar power, tax credit for existing nuclear reactors, prevent them from closing, extending the energy tax credit through 2024, clean energy rebates and grants for residential buildings.
Starting point is 00:29:25 That's like at the ground level, that's stuff like, hey, if you want to put solar panels on your roof, there will be tax credits to do that. And that is so great. It is such an awesome incentive for people. People will follow this and people will do this and people will word of mouth this stuff to you. I had about like one of the people in my work, they did this and they had cannot stop talking about how fucking awesome the solar panels on their house are. They talk about it all the time. They talk about the money they got. They talk about, you know, how you could easily do this on your, they talk about it constantly, man. It's great. It's awesome word of mouth. And it winds up, people wind up when they start saving that money, they never
Starting point is 00:30:03 look back. They think it's awesome. Yeah, I actually can't wait. When we move to our new house, we've talked about it. Solar panels are like, I'm going to hire a contractor or get in touch with a contractor as soon or even before we move in. And that's the other thing. This also includes tax credits and rebates to buy an electric car. Like this also includes tax credits and rebates to buy an electric car. So if you can get solar panels on your roof and you can get an electric car, you can drive for free with no impact, like virtually zero carbon impact. It's so good, man.
Starting point is 00:30:36 It's so good. Like how great is that? Yeah. There's manufacturing items in here for clean manufacturing incentives, for clean manufacturing technology here in the U.S. rather than getting that stuff abroad. Reducing emissions from energy-intensive industries such as concrete production, which produces an enormous amount of CO2 gas. Yeah, sure. Then there's green energy credits for individuals. We just talked about that. There's clean fuel and vehicle incentives. Air pollution is addressed, conservation, rural development,
Starting point is 00:31:05 transportation. There's other climate spending, which I think is great, including drought resilience, weather and climate resilience, zero emission USPS trucks. They drive around a fucking lot, man. They do, man. That's awesome. So there's a lot of really, I mean, to go through it all would take like half the show, but I want to bop down a little bit too to the savings and new revenue, which is $764 billion. We're talking about shit like a 15% corporate minimum tax. That's now part of our world, guys. IRS enforcement, protected net revenue raised from $80 billion in compliance and enforcement funding. We've talked about this on the show. The IRS is letting money go
Starting point is 00:31:45 because they do not have the resources necessary to pursue tax frauds. And we're not talking about like little fucking Joe Sixpack tax frauds. There's no money there. They're talking about big fraud. Healthcare repeal regulation on prescription drug rebates. Drug price negotiation.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Guys, this is huge. This one blew me away. This one blew me away, Tom. Drug price negotiation. Yep. Medicare negotiation on prices for certain drugs. I just, I mean, like, they're going to save that much money? Well, that's actually part of why this is so powerful.
Starting point is 00:32:21 So I read an article about why this is so powerful, is that drug companies can't set a separate price. Oh, that's great part of why this is so powerful. So I read an article about why this is so powerful is that drug companies can't set a separate price. So that's great. So once Medicare, who's the biggest single bargaining power in the room, negotiates a price that actually impacts everybody buying that drug. Yeah. So it's like, it's huge. And the idea, think, think for a second about the purposeful obstructionism to progress that was put into place intentionally to make this not the case. Because it's self-evidently powerful tool to keep drug prices down. The fact that we had to fight this hard to get it tells you how strong that lobby is and who's really working for who. Because this is self-evidently like
Starting point is 00:33:05 useful so it's like a weird thing that we even had to like celebrate this there's methane reduction incentives there's a reinstatement of super fund which that ridiculous that got pulled out this is a giant piece of legislation this is over a trillion dollars in in spending and tax cuts and enforcement of bad actors. It's pretty fucking great, man. Like it's about fucking time. I know we don't, we did not get anywhere near, we didn't get half of what we should have gotten out of this. And you're 100% right.
Starting point is 00:33:37 But man, I didn't think we were going to get anything. Well, I'm happy that we got something. And like I said, it should motivate us all to recognize that we either really, really want more. So we want to start at the grassroots level and try to get more, or we're happy that we got something and we're going to move forward and keep moving forward. Now, as you remember, when we ran out of time yesterday, we were about to make that final judgment on 9372. I just got to read parts of this story.
Starting point is 00:34:07 This story is crazy. This story comes from LGBTQ Nation. Christian camp director told to denounce his transgender son or lose his job. Fucking yikes. This is crazy. A Christian pastor was told that he and his wife had to denounce their transgender son, denounce their son, in order for him to keep his job as a Christian camp director. Instead, he and his family packed up their shit and moved to New Zealand. Chris Kimmon got his
Starting point is 00:34:31 dream job as an assistant director and then as director of the non-denominational camp in Pac West that both he and his wife, Lindsay, had attended as children. Lindsay started working as a midwife in a nearby town. Their son, Jay, who was assigned female at birth, had yet to come out as transgender. He was a young evangelist trying to convert his friends at school. Then this story goes into telling the story of this person realizing who they were,
Starting point is 00:34:55 realizing that they were, in fact, a transgendered person, and going through that very difficult process. Then the... Then Jay came out as a lesbian as a teenager, and his parents asked him to keep it quiet. Their jobs depended on their images as good Christians. You know what this will do to your dad's job, Lindsay recalls, saying.
Starting point is 00:35:15 We just needed to keep this quiet. There's no reason to be talking about sex or sexuality. She later regretted forcing her child into the closet, putting the pressure on the family's financial well-being on a child and forcing him to be someone that he wasn't. When he was 17, someone started outing him as transgender and he eventually came out to his parents. But by then, the community knew and churches in the area, some of whose members had kids who attended the camp, were calling Chris in for hearings. They got their hackles up. We're saying, you can't be gay or trans and be a Christian, they said.
Starting point is 00:35:46 If you're going to have gay people at your camp, we have to pull out. The whole point, one of the greatest things about being gay is you don't have to pull out. Man, I can't believe that they do this. I really genuinely can't believe that they would like... So awful. I mean, I guess it makes sense,
Starting point is 00:36:05 right? Like they, like literally Christianity is just a method to control you. But man, how, how many people throughout history have had their entire world turned upside down by some sort of church leader, but then sucked it up.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Like just leave, just go, just do something else. This guy got a job as this, but then eventually left. He eventually just said, fuck it. I'm not doing this anymore. This is literally his job. He's not, he's way more invested in it
Starting point is 00:36:34 than just some random person who goes to that church. Yeah, man. And he was able to walk away from it. Man, when these people try to throw your life upside down, these people just need to say, fuck that and bounce. You know, I can't imagine. I can't imagine in the non-religious world a
Starting point is 00:36:50 job. Think about any job you've had. Any job you've ever had. If they said that you had to denounce someone that you loved, you'd be like, get the fuck out of here. I denounce this fucking place. You take a shit right on the hood of the boss's car on your way out the
Starting point is 00:37:05 door. It's only because it's a church, right? So they're, they're not just losing a job. They're losing their entire community, their friends, their family, like who they are. And what a horrible fucking sort of Damocles to hold over someone's head. Right. For nothing. For nothing. Because that's really the danger is like, yeah, all right, you can have your son or you can have every other piece of your life. And obviously you have to pick your son, but it sucks that anybody has to make that choice.
Starting point is 00:37:41 And they fucking know what they're doing. It's not just a job. Yeah, it's your whole life. Yeah, it's stripping someone of who they are. has to make that choice and they fucking know what they're doing. It's not just a job, you know? Yeah. It's your whole life. Yeah. It's stripping someone of who they are. It's all, it's the entirety because it's the community around you. It's where you live very often is very motivated by who's in those churches. You know what I mean? Like those churches are local. You're in those churches. You're part of the community, you're part of the fucking barbecue and the rummage sales and all the stuff that happens. And they do have an amazing power over people.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And it's so heartbreaking to watch them have to do this Sophie's Choice all the time. And it's fucking, it's just heartbreaking. I don't, I mean, I'm always saddened by this, but the one thing that I think people can feel good about is that I think for the most part, and I'm probably wrong here. Now I'm going to say it.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I'm probably going to be wrong. The secular community seems pretty welcoming of the gay community and the trans community. Yeah, I think by and large, absolutely. By and large, it seems. Obviously there's fucking fuck sticks everywhere yes and you know you can't since we're not a like technically a community that can like kick people out anybody can say they're secular you know what i mean it doesn't it doesn't stop them from being part of
Starting point is 00:38:55 the community you can just not ever have many here events which is what happens with any of these super duper bigot people. But for the most part, it's at least a welcoming community for most LGBT people. So there is a place for them. It's just that it sucks that not every place is for them. You know what I mean? Like that they're thrown away
Starting point is 00:39:18 in large sections of society. They're just thrown away as non-people. And it's awful. For nothing. For nothing that affects anyone thatpeople. And it's awful. For nothing. For nothing that affects anyone that's not you. For existing. For existing. You know?
Starting point is 00:39:30 For being who they are. It literally has no impact on anyone that isn't them. You know? Like, no one's, like, making you have sex with gay dudes. Like, no one's, like, making you. Like, there's no impact. That's the other thing that, like, it's the most none of your business fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah, man. It is so none of your fucking business. So unless there's been a change in circumstance that warrants filing the motion out of time, say if the county up and moved overnight. This story comes from NBC News. Florida court says Tina's not mature enough to have an abortion. The 16-year-old may not be forced to have a baby even though she is parentless and has told the court that she's not ready. This is as bad as it sounds. This really is. What's easier? Having a baby you got to take care of forever or having an abortion? Like,
Starting point is 00:40:21 which one requires more? I don't understand your logic, man. Seriously, man. Like, you're not mature enough, so you have to be a parent? Hey, you're so immature, you have to be a parent? What? What now?
Starting point is 00:40:37 That's... You just want to be like, dude, out loud? Like, can you hear you say the things 10 week this is a 10 week pregnancy man this is a nothing yep this is a fucking tiny little fucking snot it's a bean it's nothing it's a pomegranate seed whatever you want to call it it's literally a nothing this is what fucking one of those jackasses that one guy that crowder guy when the guy said are you saying this is a human yes he said yeah and he said that's a dolphin it's the same thing man it's a fucking dolphin embryo you would not be able to if you put it in a lineup people would
Starting point is 00:41:17 not be able to pick it out of a lineup you know i saw this thing today tom and it's these people posted i guess roan had one of these anti-abortion guys on the guy who runs the Babylon B. I don't know the guy's name. He's some jackass who runs the Babylon B and it's a dude who's trying to tell women how they need to fucking shut the fuck up and not get abortions. It's basically two dudes just arguing over how much, how women should have abortions. I guess Joe pushed back a couple of times saying his, like his 14 year old daughter shouldn't, shouldn't have to, you know, have a child that's conceived of a rape.
Starting point is 00:41:52 And the guy's response was basically like, well, when is it, when is that magic moment that it's a person? And I'm like, well, it's not a fucking conception, man. I would be, I would be the first to argue. It's the same with Terry Shivo, that it is with a baby. Show me fucking brain activity. And then we can start having some sort of conversation. The problem is, is by the time it gets to that point, no, no person wants to get, wants to get an abortion. They all have to get an abortion to save their life or cause a fucking thing is headless or whatever. It's never like they want to get an abortion to save their life or because the fucking thing is headless or whatever it's never like they want to get an abortion when it's that late it's only early on they're like
Starting point is 00:42:32 they're like other methods have failed and like oh no fucking i gotta get an abortion and then they're like no well what if it's like a real actualized college student in there like get the fuck out of here man Shut the fuck up. Know your role. Get back in your lane and shut your mouth. You're fucking talking about nothing. You're talking about a literal nothing. And what you're saying is
Starting point is 00:42:54 that potentiality has more rights than a real woman. A woman who's alive and an adult right now. It's so funny because I've heard that like, oh, when's the magic moment? It's like, we can answer that.
Starting point is 00:43:07 We actually can answer that question. And it's at about seven months. At about seven months, there begins to be detectable brainwave activity. And that is the line that we use for all other bodies that are in existence
Starting point is 00:43:22 to decide whether or not something is alive or not. If I go outside and I get hit by a fucking car and I have no brainwave activity, they can cut my body open while the heart's still doing heart stuff in order to take the heart out. And it ain't fucking murder because my ass is dead
Starting point is 00:43:39 if I don't have brainwave activity. Like we already have established a standard for when life ends. And you just have to look at that lens backward to figure out when it begins. That's it. Like, it's not more, it doesn't need to be more complicated than that. The problem, though, is that they've been told this fucking fantastic lie that there's all, like, this slew of people out in the world that are like, it's eight months. Fuck this. I'm out. Take the baby out. You're like, there's nobody in the world that is like this. These are people who have had a fucking, they've had a baby shower.
Starting point is 00:44:17 They've had a fucking, they've named the baby. They fucking painted a room. They have fucking all these things that they've done in preparation of baby at that point. And if they have to have an abortion, fuck you for fucking climbing up their ass about it. Yeah, man. That is exactly, exactly, exactly right. The people who have to have
Starting point is 00:44:40 late-term abortions, like this is an infinitesimal percentage of the people and there is never viability it is not mom is doing great and the fucking baby is doing great and we just have decided like yeah fucking mulligan at month eight whatever not happening that's a story that people tell because it sounds like something that they want to be opposed to and it's like all right great be opposed to that i guess like like, all right, great. Be opposed to that, I guess. Like one, if it's none of your fucking business,
Starting point is 00:45:07 maybe make it none of your fucking business. But if you want to be opposed to it, be opposed to it. But you're then not opposed to 99.9% of the rest of the fucking abortions. So leave those the fuck alone, you monsters. Not mature enough so she has to carry a fucking baby. I don't get, dude, I don't get this. It does not make any sense.
Starting point is 00:45:27 I literally don't get it. I literally don't get it. So this one dovetails. This is from vice woman may be forced to give birth to a headless baby because of an abortion ban. This one comes out of Louisiana and in Louisiana, um, there is a list of medical conditions. And if the,
Starting point is 00:45:42 um, fetus has any of these medical conditions then or if the mother is is super sick or whatever then an abortion may be allowable by louisiana law but otherwise abortion is pretty much impossible to get in louisiana sure well this fucking medical condition is fucking really rare that this goddamn fetus has so it's not listed on the list and also a list like that is fucking problematic for about 100 fucking reasons. But, like, the condition means
Starting point is 00:46:10 this baby has something called acrania, meaning no fucking cranium. Man. No head. This woman is going to have to gestate and create a baby and then go into labor with all the dangers and pain and trauma in order
Starting point is 00:46:28 to give birth to a fucking headless baby because of this monstrous shit. Dude, if that doesn't tell you that this law was specifically put in place to punish people with vaginas, I don't know what is. I don't know what you look at to not see this as an absolute punishment against people with uteruses, period. You can't look at this as some sort of correct stance on how we should, because we wouldn't, dude, if you're fucking, if you like,
Starting point is 00:47:04 let's say you had a kid and your kid was driving down the road and they like, they like fucking fell in the road and a fucking car clipped their noggin off. Right. You wouldn't take that kid to the hospital and be like, nope, sorry. We got to keep that, that headless body on life support indefinitely forever because it was, it's your kid and that's what has to happen. You wouldn't do that. Nope. You wouldn't do that. Nope.
Starting point is 00:47:25 You wouldn't do this with somebody who was brain dead. You wouldn't do this. In a million other instances, they don't do this. They triage people that are already alive all the time, but we can't triage a fetus. We can't look at it. I don't know if I'm using that word correctly, so please don't send me a message and be like,
Starting point is 00:47:43 you're not using that word correctly. In any case, you're not looking at, we're not trying to make, you're not allowed to make some sort of judgment about whether or not this is a viable, like if it's not viable, that should just be like, yeah, man, it's fucking gonna die.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Sorry, let's not just create something so it can fucking experience ultimate pain before it dies. Can we just not do that? Can we stop it before the mom has to, test so it can fucking experience ultimate pain before it dies can we just not do that can we stop it before the the mom has to like you say go through all this dangerous shit up to that point let's can we just be like yeah you know what it's actually a super easy procedure early on and we know early on moving on the end the person can you know because there could be so many complications just because why, literally why?
Starting point is 00:48:25 And it's because you want to keep that person out of the workforce or punish them somehow. That's it. That's it. This is obviously, like, the state can never make a list. How fucking Big Brother-esque is this? Right? This decision is not between this woman and her doctor. Yep. This state of fucking Louisiana
Starting point is 00:48:45 is going to make a list of when it is acceptable for you to get medical care and when it's unacceptable for you to get medical care? The state of fucking Louisiana? Some fucking, you know where that comes from? From fucking lawmakers, not doctors.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Yeah. Like, of course they're going to forget this fucking disease, because they're going to turn to their. Well, do we get them all? Is that all the ones? I mean, are they going to debate about like, well, that one that maybe there's like a three percent chance. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:49:13 You know what this is? This is a fucking death panel. Yeah. Like this is not any different than a fucking death panel. Yeah. This is what they were saying they were afraid of. Right. And there's a woman, there's a doctor on here that said, I looked at this list for 30 seconds
Starting point is 00:49:27 and found like two of them that are missing already. How can this possibly even be the list? Even if you were a horrible fucking person and the only thing that you were going to carve out, and again, you'd be horrible to do this, carve out is like non-viability. Then the non-viability standards should just be like, does the doctor of this one, does this woman's doctor think this is non-viable?
Starting point is 00:49:51 Yeah. Right. You know, is he willing to like sign this affidavit? Yep. Great. Sold. That's it. But when the state of Louisiana has to like specifically get involved, this is the kind of shit that happens. Some poor fucking human being has to go through the trauma of this experience. And there is nothing that anyone gains from this. Like there's no social benefit from this at all. The only benefit is like you said, Cecil, the benefit of this is to keep women in the fucking kitchen pregnant and less than that's it yep that's the that is the fucking out loud and everything goal you will take our knowledge by osmosis out of time sister it comes from only sky uh this is just this is great this is like haha attacked a school district
Starting point is 00:50:39 just banned the bible oops so in the school district in district in Texas, they have a rule that says if parents object to a book, it gets pulled. So any parental objection to any book will cause that book to get pulled pending review. So parents just like, all right, cool. I'm going to object to your shit. I'm going to object to the Bible. And so they have to pull it. Like that's their rule. That problem with these fucking monolithic rules is you guys like a lot of terrible shit. The Bible's full of like rape and incest and fucking bestiality and fucking weird shit. It's great. What I love too, Tom, is that like somebody posted, one of these Republicans posted and said, it's starting already. And they posted this story as like, as a proof that, that they're pulling the Bible off the shelf. And someone like quote tweeted
Starting point is 00:51:32 and said, but, but, but you did this, like, like you did this. I don't understand. Like you were the one who wanted this. Like you were the one who did all this. Like nobody on the left was like, let's ban books. It's literally only ever been the Republicans who want to ban books or stop people from reading books, stop other people from reading books to other people. That's literally all they ever want to do. I mean, God, look at yourself in the mirror for 10 seconds. You are the baddies, man. You're the bad ones. You're the bad ones. You're the bad people. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:52:08 This is what I hope more than anything. It's like, if I were, I mean, truly, if I was in a school district like this, I would just, I would walk in that with a pen and paper. I'd write down every single book in the library and have them all pulled. Like, let's be as absurd as possible. Great. You know what? Let's make let's be as absurd as possible. Great.
Starting point is 00:52:25 You know what? Let's make this as difficult and onerous. Yeah. And like, yeah, I'll have your Bible pulled. I'm going to have every single book in the entire library pulled, and I'll do it every year that this thing is on. Like, we'll just make this as, I will spend all of your time and all of your energy
Starting point is 00:52:41 and all of your money going through this process. Because I've got nothing, like, why not? Why not? I think of my dad when I think of these things. Like, I remember, like, my dad is 74 and he's retired. And, like, he's bored and sometimes a little ornery. And, like, occasionally he'll tell me a story where, like, he'll, like, call Comcast and Comcast will, you know, give him the runaround.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And my dad will be like, look, I don't know what you have to do today, but this is all I have to do today. I will spend all day on this with you. Like if I was like someone like that, if I was like a little older, retired, be like, this will be my hobby. My hobby will be using your stupid fucking law to fuck with you. Yeah. This is just malicious compliance that's all it is yeah what's happening you got the latest man leon philp here and i am looking at a half empty bottle of kvartie which means that we are just about out of time this story comes from god dot daily dot kaylee mack and annie's sister to launch conservative dating app, The Right Stuff. Which first, ew. Like, ew.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yeah, right? If that doesn't conjure up. Where are you going to get the stuff? Where are you going to put the stuff? It's so fucking butt stuff. The Right Stuff. It is not butt stuff. They're not doing any fun stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:02 They're not doing it. Definitely not. Definitely not. This is lights off, missionary, she doesn't come. That's what it is. That's what this is. This is one, two, okay, we're done. We're done here.
Starting point is 00:54:16 That's a smack on the ass and you can go get me a sandwich. Yeah, let's go do something else now. Let's go on a Trump boat. Let's go do something else now. Yeah. This is just. Let's go on a Trump boat. No, but like, like this, this, these people started a sort of conservative dating app because they were going out on dates and finding people like, liked other humans and had empathy.
Starting point is 00:54:39 And they were like, fuck that. Where's another robot I could fuck? And so then they, they searched for it. And the best part of the best part about this was they were saying, you know, like, fuck that. Where's another robot I could fuck? And so then they searched for it. And the best part about this was they were saying, you know, like, oh, you go out on these dates with these leftists and it's all these bad dates. And Dan Savage's tweet is, you weren't enduring bad dates. You right-wing shitbags, you were the bad dates.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Like, it's so true, man. Imagine being so terrible that like when you try to engage the world romantically, it's like, man, nobody's interested in me. That's because your values are terrible. Right. Your values are terrible. And McEnany basically says it. And Dan Savage's response is fucking brilliant. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:19 But she says, we're sorry you've had to endure years of bad dates and wasted time with people who don't see the world our way, the right way. And it's like, look, what you've done is you've created like you're creating this because you recognize that your way of thinking makes you less marketable. That's the truth that you are inherently recognizing is like you're just an unpalatable, gross person and people don't want to fuck you. So you have to actually get in a smaller boat, right? You've got to get in a smaller fucking space because the rest of the world's like, ew, when they fucking look at you. That's it. It's so great.
Starting point is 00:55:57 And this is like the fourth social right-leaning dating website, and they've all failed. Well, this one has an interesting take. They're going to do basically ladies night. Yeah. They're going to allow ladies get automatically get deluxe. They automatically get the like plus double plus extra special concierge treatment and men have to pay for it. So if you're a dude, cause they know dudes are going to flock to this anyway, especially
Starting point is 00:56:25 conservative Christian guys, they're going to flock to this in a second. If they're not already on Grindr, they're going to come to this one for sure. They will already be on Grindr and still go to that one. But in any case, they're going to flock to this. And so she knows they're going to pay for it. This is
Starting point is 00:56:42 another grift is what this is. It's 100% a grift. I don't think that this is a thing that she's not out there thinking, you know what I really want to do? I want to get people connected. No, she wants to fucking connect her fucking this app to her fucking bank account is what she wants to connect. You kidding me?
Starting point is 00:56:59 Yeah, man. Yeah, man, you're not at all wrong. This is like, and it's also funny that they're using the sort of ladies' night model, right? Because other apps don't have to use that because they're just attractive to use. Yeah. Right? But they're recognizing like, all right, it's just going to be a fucking sausage party of fucking right-wing dingbats. A bunch of dudes.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Right? Duding it up. Swiping right on dudes. It's just going to be a bunch of fucking truck duding it up just a button swiping right on dudes just gonna be a bunch of fucking truck nut dudes like trolling the same six girls there's an army of bodies under this river criminals people ran out of time out of friends time running out of time and out of time time time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, Go. Go where? Go time. Go time. Go time.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Go time. Go time. Go time. What are you talking about, glory time? I'm going to give something to the future. Okay, Ian, you need to stop. Time. That's money. Ian, you need to stop. Time! That's money.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Time is money. Jesus, what is this all about? Time, money, we're leaving it on the table! Okay, is this COVID-related? And if it is, what do we do about it? No, but... Thanks for asking, because when you go to adamandeve.com and pick almost any one item,
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Starting point is 00:59:08 I feel great. So no longer on that diatribe? I have no idea what you're referring to. The whole existential time crisis? Sounds like a fun video game. Okay, okay. Just want to make sure you're good. I'll be good when everyone goes to AdamandEve.com and uses Code Glory because savings and money and fun and pastime and fucking and good and sex and fun and fun!
Starting point is 00:59:31 Okay, maybe you should take some time off, Ian. Oh boy, um, here we go. Uh, Code Glory. AdamandAvon.com. Thank you. This story comes from Business Insider. If Trump is convicted for violating the Espionage Act and two other federal laws, he could face up to 33 years in prison, legal experts say.
Starting point is 01:00:03 So this is related to the seizure by the FBI in a raid of Mar-a-Lago, the seizure of top secret documents that Trump stole because he had no right to take them from the White House. And that today, by the way, I don't know if you saw this, but I saw just like not that long ago. Yeah, the affidavit yeah yeah what's that oh yeah so the federal judge ordered um basically the government on thursday to um propose redactions to the affidavit um so that that happened today they were they were there it looks like it's going to come out but it's going to have redactions in it okay and so i did see that one of his lawyers today came out and said, well, yeah, he had the documents, but they were kept very securely
Starting point is 01:00:47 in a room with a lock on it. And only a few people had the key. And it's like, no, man, some of these documents were top secret documents. A fucking pad. They were
Starting point is 01:01:03 in a room full of boxes with a fucking, you can see a picture of it, with just like a Joe Hardware store padlock on the door in a room, Cecil, adjacent to the pool at Mar-a-Lago. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Like China doesn't have bolt cutters? Yeah, well, I don't know what's in these secret documents and nobody else does either, right? Like well i don't know what's in these doc these sacred documents and nobody else does either right like we don't know exactly what's and we shouldn't because they're secret documents so we don't know what's in them there's been a lot of speculation over the last couple weeks over what could be in there how fucked he could be this could be you know nuclear codes or something people have been talking about nuclear secrets, locational weapons. They've been talking about all kinds of other things. We just don't know what's in there. I have not seen any credible news source out there say,
Starting point is 01:01:54 this is sort of exactly the material that's in there. There's nobody who's willing to say that because we just don't know. We know the classifications of things, but that's as far as it goes. So we don't know exactly. But we do know that he took a bunch of stuff that he shouldn't have had and he had it for a very long time. And there's nothing that says that he couldn't have had some of this stuff
Starting point is 01:02:19 that might have been an enticement for other governments to even want to have. You don't know that. You can't be sure of that. What we do know is that they came and they got this stuff, and it was a big enough deal to walk into Mar-a-Lago, and they had to get tipped off exactly to where it was. So this is like a big deal that they showed up.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I still am not sure anything's really going to happen from this but i am happy that that this is sort of still percolating in the news because it's so far every single time he's tried to push and say well why don't you do this and they're like okay right yeah sure i'm kind of anxious to see this redacted redacted affidavit because I want to see what he has to say like what do you have to say after it's been because I have no confidence whatsoever this is going to be egg on the face of the FBI they don't
Starting point is 01:03:14 there's no way that Merrick Garland who has been extraordinarily careful in everything he's done is going to do something so fucking sloppy as to make it look like they're just fucking a bunch of amateurs. I guarantee that's not the case. I guarantee it. I totally agree. I totally agree. Also, like, you've got to wonder, because like, he took a bunch of shit and they
Starting point is 01:03:36 took a bunch of shit back and he signed off. They signed off saying, that's all the shit we took. And they kept this shit and they knew they kept this shit because they kept this shit locked away so like yeah why did you want it you're right what was he saving it for like you one you just you don't get to have this shit and i like i will never ever ever listen to another fucking butthurt emails person again in my life not that i ever did not again not again but like fuck you this is from i mean top secret shit is top secret shit and they emails person again in my life. Not that I ever did in the beginning. Not again. But like, fuck you. This is from, I mean, top secret shit is top secret shit. And they keep trying to play this like five different ways. Right. They keep trying to say like crazy, stupid shit. Like, oh, well, you know, he could have declassified it. And then I saw something like, oh, he has a
Starting point is 01:04:19 standing order to declassify anything that he has. Yeah. That's not how it works. Everybody said that's bullshit. Everybody said it's bullshit anyway. That's not how any of this works. There's been like 12 people have already come out and said, no, that's not true. That's literally not true. That's not what he said when he was in office.
Starting point is 01:04:33 That's not, and it's also not how you, you can't even do that. This is not, that's not different than like Michael Scott just being like, I declare bankruptcy. This is,
Starting point is 01:04:41 this is pulling fucking something out of the hat until it's not a practice, Tom. That's essentially what it is. It's just bullshit. It's a lie. He's a liar. He's been a liar since the beginning. You can never trust anything he says or any of his, anybody who works for him says he's been nothing but a liar. And he's an absolute, I mean like literal thief, man. He's a literal thief of government documents. He is an absolute thief.
Starting point is 01:05:07 If you think anything of this guy, I can't imagine you thinking this is okay. Because I'll tell you what, make it Obama. Yeah, right. Make it Obama. Flip the fucking script and make it Obama and tell me how fucking happy you'd be if they busted into Obama's place and they said,
Starting point is 01:05:25 hey man, you kept a bunch of secret fucking documents. Yeah, man, you kept shit that's top secret classified shit. You can't have this shit. Some of the shit that they're talking about, now again, we don't know exactly what they've taken. Yeah, we don't know, we don't know. But like there are levels of top secret
Starting point is 01:05:40 where it's not just that like I can't read it. It's that I can only read it in a room that is purpose built for reading top secret where you can, it's not just that like I can't read it. It's that I can only read it in a room that is purpose built for reading top secret documents. And then there's stuff that's like, it's only printed. It's not anywhere else. So, you know, and again, you've got to wonder why he lied about it,
Starting point is 01:05:58 why he wanted to take it in the first place. What was he going to fucking do with it? Like none of this, there's no non-evil explanation for this. You can't even chalk this up to incompetence. You can't because they already signed off months ago saying, all right, that's all that we've got, when they expressly knew they had this.
Starting point is 01:06:18 There's no way he's that big a fucking idiot that thinks that this is not a big deal. I think you're absolutely right. There are literally, I can't think of any positive thing. You're right. It's only malicious things that he could have this for. That's it. I mean, like, I'm just speculating and I don't believe
Starting point is 01:06:36 this is true. I simply wonder if this is true. So I want to make that distinction to not get a fucking email about it. But, like, I do have to wonder, like, was he trying to sell this shit to, like, Russia or it. But like, I do have to wonder, like, was he trying to sell this shit to like Russia or China? He's, I mean, like, or Saudi Arabia. Like what, what, what was he trying to do with this? It's not nothing. The answer is not nothing. This was not souvenir shit. You don't take this shit. You don't sign off. You don't lie. You don't lock it
Starting point is 01:07:03 up. If it's a souvenir, man. They came back and took all his souvenirs. And he's like, oopsie, my bad on the souvenirs. Yeah, yeah. And this is totally different. You're right. It's, this is, and this is not anything, and I want to mention too, like,
Starting point is 01:07:18 the article mentions that these things have like, like colorations on them that are of dangerous flowers that you shouldn't go near. You know what I mean? Like they're like poisonous snake colored envelopes that you just know for sure you should not pick up. They have like red or orange or yellow or bright green or whatever.
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