Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 661: She's a 9.5

Episode Date: December 26, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:29 Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. recording live from glory hole studios in chicago and beyond this is cognitive dissonance Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there is no welcome mat. This is episode 661, and this is the If Not Hell, Then Most
Starting point is 00:01:26 of America Hath Frozen Over edition. We are recording again separately. Polar vortex, baby. We got a bomb cyclone. Get that polar vortex going or whatever. I don't know. It's supposed to be windy or something. I don't know. It's so
Starting point is 00:01:42 funny because out here in Chicagoland, like there's all this fuss like, oh, there's going to be a blizzard. Oh, there's going to be a blizzard. Oh, my God. It's going to close down the entire fucking earth. There's going to be a blizzard. And in my entire life, there's been two blizzards.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Real, actual, no shit blizzards. There's been two blizzards that I can remember. Maybe there was one before i had fucking working memory sure sure there's been two blizzards and it's like the world there was one in 2014 or something like that that was pretty fucking epic like it was a great blizzard it was pretty amazing like there was one in like great it was like 2014 or 2015 or something. I think it was 2014 or something where my wife went into work that day. And they closed where I worked down.
Starting point is 00:02:31 You know, they close. And my wife was like, they didn't close her place down. So she had to walk into work. So I walked her to work that morning. And there was literally zero. We walked in the middle of the street. There was no cars, not a single car on the road. And we walked in the middle of the street.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Like today I saw it start to come down. I'm like, eh, it looks like it's maybe going to be a couple inches of snow. It doesn't really look like that much, but they're freaking out. Yeah. Everybody's like flipping their shit about this one. And I'm not really sure why here in Chicago, I know other parts of the country are getting hammered, but yeah, Chicago, it's not bad. It's not really bad, yeah. But we are separated at the moment because, hey, it could turn and the winds are, you know, fairly significant. It could be bad.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Fine. It could be. So we decided to err on the side of caution and record once more from afar. I miss you, buddy. It's been weeks. I know. It's been several weeks. It's been weeks. It's been several's been weeks buddy to get them even thicker and creamier We're gonna add some of this tri blend cheese now we want the cheese to melt So we're just gonna put the lid on this for a while. Let it steam up. It's been in here quite a while
Starting point is 00:03:37 Wow Look at that. The eggs are perfectly cooked now. Let's take a look And if this is ready to be flipped we're just gonna go for it. Listen to that. Oh yeah it's ready. All right we're going for it. These actually look like mashed potatoes and you can't tell me they don't. We're just gonna guide our little face right out of the pan. I am so excited to try this. How good does this look? Let's see how good this turned out. Excited to try this.
Starting point is 00:04:02 How good does this look? Let's see how good this turned out. Oh, yeah. No, that is a burger. This story comes from CBS News. This story is fucking bonkers. TikTok pushes potentially harmful content to users as often as every 39 seconds, studies say. Jesus Christ. So let me, I'm just going to read from parts of this article because it's just so incredible.
Starting point is 00:04:30 TikTok recommends self-harm and eating disorder content to some users within minutes of joining the platform, according to a new report published Wednesday by the Center for Countering Digital Hate. The new study has researchers set up TikTok accounts posing as 13-year-old users, interesting content about body image and mental health. It found that within as few as 2.6 minutes after joining the app, TikTok's algorithm recommended suicidal content.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Admittedly, that's like 400,000 TikToks you saw in that amount of time. That is true. And you're scrolling so fast in that. You've seen like 200,000 TikToks you saw in that amount of time. That is true. You're scrolling so fast in that you've seen like 200,000 TikToks. So, you know, within seconds, you're getting suicide. This is a tiny, it's tiny amount of time. Here's, here's the thing. It shouldn't be on your platform. Because if it's on your platform and you use an algorithm to put content into my feed, that makes you responsible. Now, if it was just a big room full of a bunch of people, and then every second, every millisecond, new TikToks got it added to a long, long feed,
Starting point is 00:05:41 let's say, and they had no control over what you saw. It just was random. So it didn't matter. It was only random. And there might've been like some age or something, some sort of age verification thing, but the rest of it's all just, it's all random. It just comes through and it's completely random. Then maybe, maybe you're not responsible.
Starting point is 00:05:57 But the moment you fucking like a fine dining waiter, bring me self-harm content to my table. And then you pull the thing of the silver chafing dish off the top. And then you blow the self-harm content on me. That's your problem now, man. You're the one who's fucking facilitating it. Yeah, man. The argument that these media companies don't have any responsibility to the content that lives on their sites and platforms is fucking nonsense.
Starting point is 00:06:32 It is nonsense. Algorithms are not accidents. Algorithms are intentionally created and coded by people. They are accidents the same way that a chapter in a book is an accident, which is to say that it literally cannot be created accidentally. And if you lose control of an algorithm and it is pushing content within two and a half minutes, eight minutes for eating disorder shit, two and a half minutes for suicide shit, according to this fucking study about TikTok. It is also, Cecil, worth noting that TikTok is literally Chinese spyware, right? TikTok is Chinese spyware. There is a reason that the
Starting point is 00:07:18 Biden administration will not allow government employees to put TikTok on their phones. TikTok is built by a company out of China called like ByteDance or something. It's built and owned by a Chinese company. It has been pushed to administrations. Defense departments now have said this is a really dangerous spyware app owned by the Chinese government. Because remember, every corporation in China is a Chinese government corporation. There is no such thing as an independent Chinese company. Everything's beholden to the Chinese government. I don't think it's entirely like nonsensical to say, just like we watch Russia do the same shit, that if you are a enemy of America and you have an app and it is a spyware app. And you know what also it does is it sends shit that makes the youth less stable and less happy and less comfortable and like have more mental health and psychological issues. Like this is a, this is a fucking, this is the next level of psyops. And I'm not trying to be conspiratorial because when we called it that when russia was doing it using facebook and twitter we were right that's all
Starting point is 00:08:31 been borne out as truth why would it not be the case here that this is intentional shit to make people unhappy because that benefits the chinese government to destabilize the culture of one of their enemies. Yeah. I just, it's like, that's not a leap to me at all. I also, as I recall, we covered a story maybe a year ago, maybe a year and a half ago, where one of these social media companies, and I think it was TikTok, within a few swipes from one or two like uh sort of trans doubting you know like they have those people who are like trans doubting or something right it goes to gender critical yeah like gender critical stuff it goes to violent anti-trans to nazi to anti-Semitic within like three fucking swipes. You're just at like the most violent, abhorrent content within seconds.
Starting point is 00:09:34 It doesn't just veer you a little like down that road. It's like, it takes a hard left at Nazi Albuquerque, like as soon as it can. Yeah, it's not even like a full Kevin Bacon away. Yeah, not even. It's not even a full Kevin Bacon away. Absolutely, not even. It's not even a full Kevin Bacon away. Absolutely, yeah. Kevin Bacon needs to be the number of units. We need a number of units from the time you type in your initial search to the time you get to Nazis.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yeah. And that should be one internet Kevin Bacon. How many goybles or whatever is like five goybles away? Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah, It's just insane. But it's something that like, you know, you might not pay attention to if you're sort of immersed in that and you might not have ever entered in any of these search terms that might make, it might turn up something that could feel dangerous or that could be, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:21 you know, something that is just toxic. Right. Yeah. And maybe, maybe you're using this app and it's not, not doing any of that stuff for you. But the problem is, is that there are some people and they're shown like, like these people literally did it in no time. Now, TikTok is saying, well, we can't, we don't like your methodology or whatever. It's like, yeah, of course not. Of course you don't like the methodology because it proved that you're a fucking terrifying company, period. Right. Yeah. We don't like the methodology because it proved that you're a fucking terrifying company, period. Yeah, we don't like your methodology because it exposed that our algorithm promotes self-harm.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Yeah. Right? You should be, if you have a media company, you should be creating an algorithm that identifies self-harm. Because the thing is, here's the other thing to remember, is that if the algorithm can find and promote self-harm yes it can also find and hide self-harm and remove self-harm and like i'll go back to the nipple example like you can't post a titty on facebook right so like there are there are there
Starting point is 00:11:19 is a confidence interval that is extremely high that if you post a titty on Facebook, that that is getting fucking removed like that. So it's not that these companies can't create algorithms that keep us safe. It is the absolute truth that these companies are trying not to create algorithms that keep us safe. They are intentionally creating algorithms that incite, They are intentionally creating algorithms that incite, that inflame, that upset, and that keep you engaged. That is what they want. That is the most charitable explanation. And an alternative side explanation is they are creating content to fuck with your head because it is a Chinese-run spyware company and it doesn't have our best interests at heart.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And that is also true. Like like tom didn't make that up it sounds insane when you say it but it's like sounds crazy dude sounds crazy sounds like q anon shit too it does but it's like like there's a reason you can't have a government phone yeah no download tiktok man you know, like the Pentagon has been like, yeah, guys, we shouldn't have this at all in America. It's like that. Did you see the articles about, I think Hawaii was the company that was a Chinese cell phone company that had towers and they were building these towers
Starting point is 00:12:39 that were capable of intercepting all kinds of sensitive defense signals. Did you happen to see this article? This was in the Times. This isn't like some bullshit stuff. There's a cell phone company called Hawaii. I may be mispronouncing that. And they were building a series of cell phone towers
Starting point is 00:12:57 and other infrastructure. And that infrastructure was also built in such a way that it could specifically be used to spy on defense infrastructure and information gatherings. Nice. Like I'm misphrasing it a little bit, but like there is an intentional act of espionage. Yeah. We're just, we're just like, well, but it's convenient. Yeah. But I love the way it entertains me. And that them, them wanting to disallow it, like the them wanting to disallow it,
Starting point is 00:13:25 like the government wanting to disallow it, doesn't necessarily mean that it is spyware. But I think what it means is, is that they're not willing to take that chance, right? It doesn't necessarily mean that it's doing something nefarious, but they're not, they are like, well, shit, that could be real dangerous.
Starting point is 00:13:43 And so let's not do that. And so like, that's the most charitable way to look at it. Yep. Little signs almost non-existent. Yeah, all the signs are real positive. No signs of disturbance, dispatch. They see you, they see the signs. Vital signs are good.
Starting point is 00:14:00 So Tom, Jim Baker, this is from Right Wing Watch and it's only 50 seconds. I'm going to play it all, and then we can talk about it. This global warring business is anti-God. If you don't believe God can run things, he created this world. And a lot of people, here's what God spoke to me. I'm going to show you something I've never shared before. I don't think. But God spoke to me that a lot of people
Starting point is 00:14:35 are not going to accept the signs, listen to me, of the second coming, that the rapture's near because they're going to call it global Of the second coming. That the rapture is near. Because they're going to call it. Global warming. Problem. They're going to say earthquakes. Are global warming.
Starting point is 00:14:55 No. God has given that. Thousands of years ago. It was in his word. These are the signs. All right. So Tom. This are the signs. All right. So, Tom, this is exactly why we should never, ever, ever
Starting point is 00:15:11 let anyone religious be in charge of anything, period. Yes, right. This is the reason. Yeah, man. They don't believe the world works the way the world works. They don't believe
Starting point is 00:15:24 in a mechanistic view and a physically true and chemically true view of the actual earth no they believe in an earth ruled by magic yeah and that's what holds it all together it's like it's like if you're like trying to go fracking and you're like fracking but it's turtles all the way down like what the fuck those turtles are gassy they are gassy little turtles my goodness can we also talk about just jim baker for a minute just as jim because in that clip he's getting old and like ornery and he's getting getting to that special age that some men get to where they just start arguing with themselves when they're talking.
Starting point is 00:16:11 You know what I'm talking about? I can't wait to get there, man. I'm going to be so ornery. It's going to be the best. You are going to be a wonderfully ornery old man. I can't wait. One of the grumpiest old men you've ever met in your entire life. I cannot wait.
Starting point is 00:16:27 That clip, Jim Baker was like, I'm going to tell you. No, I'm going to tell you. Nobody's arguing with you, Jim. You've got the mic, man. It's yours. I think it's called the fucking Jim Baker show. He's going to take a swing at himself.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Right. He's going to grab himself. Who do you think you're talking to? Stop hitting myself. Stop hitting myself. Oh, my gosh. You know, Jim, the problem is that you're absolutely right. These religious people, they see the world as if it's unmarable, that there's nothing can happen to it. You can't do anything to it. God is 100% in control. And this guy is less religious than some people in Congress. This guy's less religious than some people in the Senate. So this is a guy who terrifies me, but there's people in power that believe these things. They
Starting point is 00:17:22 think these things are true. And so this is a dangerous, it's a dangerous thing to think. And we were talking about a couple of weeks ago, we were talking about global warming and how quickly we need to act and how we should be constantly trying to move forward towards some kind of solution. But any of these people, these are all just like, they're like drags, they're like parachutes that are slowing everything down, always trying to slow the conversation down
Starting point is 00:17:53 and that's what conservatism is, right? It's slowing everything down to stop it to be where it is now. We want to keep this stasis that we're in and we can't afford stuff like this. You can't afford somebody like this to be. And we can't afford stuff like this. You can't afford somebody like this to be influential. And you can't afford somebody who is in an influential position to have the same thoughts as Jim Baker. You just can't afford it anymore. Yeah, that's a great
Starting point is 00:18:15 point because like what people I think are, some people are coming to realize and some other people are crucially failing to realize is that not solving the problem in time doesn't delay the solution. What it does is it makes a solution impossible. The science is fairly certain here. And unless they're wrong in some really deep and important ways, which is possible,
Starting point is 00:18:41 but so far they've only been wrong in the opposite way. It's only been worse than anticipated, not better. It's been less. It's been less in their minds. They're like, oh, it's going to be like 40 years, and then it's two years later, and they're like, we made a mistake. There's a tipping point after which there is no fixing the problem anymore. It is possible to delay this solution to the point where solutions are no longer viable right where
Starting point is 00:19:07 you cannot fix the fucking problem these these guys are not just slowing the train they may be derailing it yeah you're absolutely right maybe making it impossible to fix you're absolutely right and like i want to return to to that idea that like, oh, well, you know, God's in charge. And so why should we pretend that we have any ability to change the earth? Because God's in charge. Then why do anything? Why open your eyes in the morning? Why make any single fucking decision?
Starting point is 00:19:39 Why literally, if you believe in fate. Yeah, right. If you believe that everything is fucking predestined then if you choose to lay in bed and never fucking move again that's what fate said you were gonna do yeah like it is all nonsense like that is a nonsense fate is such a fucking nonsense worldview it is so impossible to reconcile with any concept at all, even approaching decision-making, free will, autonomy of self, like self-directed activity. Like literally, I don't understand how you can believe in fate and decide any, why would
Starting point is 00:20:19 you decide you wanted to buy baby back ribs today instead of a hamburger? It doesn't matter. You were always going to pick what you picked. I'm not sure that they believe it so much as they use it as a conversation ender. Yes. I think the reason why they say it isn't because they believe in this stuff. I think it's more like, just ask your father when he gets home, kind of. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:41 Like, it's kicking the can down the road so they don't have to bother with this conversation at all. They can basically shut the conversation down 100% without ever thinking about it. Yeah, man. And they only believe in the like perfection of God's plan and fate and all of that stupid bullshit for idiots. They only believe that stuff
Starting point is 00:21:02 when it suits their purposes. Sure. They are all full of vim and vigor and action and excitement when it comes time to do other things they want to do. Yeah. Right. And they ask you to take action when it comes time to like pledge your
Starting point is 00:21:18 fucking money. Right. Oh, you got what you got to do. God helps those who help themselves donate some fucking money to the Jim Baker fucking stupid slop bucket hour. That phrase, the slop bucket hour. That phrase, God helps those who help themselves, is literally only for donations. That's only used for donations. It's never used in any other place.
Starting point is 00:21:39 They don't bother to use it anywhere else. Because if you helped yourself, you wouldn't need me, man. Right. You know? Like, hey, Cecil, I'll hope you mow your lawn as long as you mow your lawn. As long as you do all the work. What is that even? What even is that? It's like having a podcast with somebody and they don't put any
Starting point is 00:21:57 work in. Next story. Next story. Next story. Outrageous. You must be talking about Ian. All right. Next story. Outrageous. You must be talking about Ian. All right. This story is... My country is the world, and my religion is to do good. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Actually, we are going to go to the next story. This story is from Vice. Yikes. And I excerpted part of this from the... Jesus Christ. ...on purpose. This is from Vice. A Christian camp director abused dozens of kids.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Now a victim says the camp lied to coerce him into a non-disclosure agreement. So this is a long article, and it is a fucking really, really, really sad and upsetting article. And it is not dissimilar from what you think um just based off the title but i did grab a piece of this and threw it in the notes and i want to read this piece of it because i think it's important to talk about the way that the camp counselor used his religion and i'm going to use the term right this time to groom someone unlike the fucking republicans who want to throw around that word grooming right um to mean somebody has a sexuality that makes my fucking tingly bits feel weird, which has nothing to do with anything. This is what grooming is.
Starting point is 00:23:13 This is what grooming is at a Christian camp. Newman told him they could avoid the sin of lusting after women by masturbating with each other. Quote, he would use scripture to his advantage and make it like we were doing something that was keeping us from sinning. Yeah, man. That's fucking grooming. You're right. The other shit, like drag story hour, that's not grooming. That's nothing. That's literally, that's nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Yeah. Christian camp director spending years. If you read this story. Yeah, years. that's not grooming that's nothing that's literally that's nothing yeah christian camp director spending years this if you read this story yeah years more than one year with dozens of people right like it wasn't just like one kid it was dozens of people he was dozens of people violating yep and he spent years on each kid so like kid would come to camp like this the kid the story the story starts off with would come to camp, like this, the kid, the story, the story starts off with, we'll come to camp. And this, this Christian camp director was really well-known and really well-loved and really well-renowned. It was like a big deal to have private time with this Christian camp director. Cause he was like, so important to the camp. And the first time he
Starting point is 00:24:19 just hung out and established a relationship. And then he waited for the kid to come back the next summer before, and then once he had established that relationship and built that trust, then the next summer he came back is when the abuse started. That is fucking grooming. That's what that is. It is, man. That's planting seeds and sowing them later.
Starting point is 00:24:40 I mean, really, genuinely, that's a level of nefariousness that's just disgusting. And it's not just one. He's got a whole field full of kids. I mean, he's literally just harvesting children whenever he wants. It's grotesque. And the idea that this church would go out of their way to be like, you know what? We're going to make you, in order for everything to calm down, we should probably do this NDA
Starting point is 00:25:03 thing. If you have an NDA after somebody in your organization diddles somebody else, let me tell you something, man. You're fucking, you're way more worried about your fucking reputation
Starting point is 00:25:14 than you ever were about any single victim ever, period. You're a disgusting organization. You should be disbanded, period. The end, period. That's it. If I had an organization and found out that it was rotten from the inside, I would fucking call it out and I would disband my organization.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I would. I don't care if it was my life's work. I literally do not care if it was my whole life's work. If that organization was an immoral abuse network, I'd be like, we shouldn't be here. abuse network, I'd be like, we shouldn't be here. Yeah. Like I tried, I didn't have bad intentions. I get it. But like, we just can't, like, we just gotta, we gotta roll this fucking thing up and call it a night and go get a job doing something else. But like, you're exactly right. What they do is they're always serving their own interests. They're always serving their interests first there. And this is supposed to be, remember the bedrock of morality. That's what religion paints itself always in. And there are no exceptions to that. All religions paint themselves as the foundational tenants that you need in your life in order for you to have a good and purpose
Starting point is 00:26:17 driven and moral life. And what they really mean is what I care about most is me. Yeah. That's what they really mean. There's nothing altruistic here. Whenever it's in your power to stop sexual assault or to stop associating, I mean, because here's the thing, like maybe you're in that organization. Maybe you're in that organization.
Starting point is 00:26:38 You're like, this is horrible. We need to stop this. We need to do something. And they don't listen to you. Then you just leave. And you say, okay, cool. I don't ever have to talk to you again. Go get a different job.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I won't talk to you again. The end, I'll quit. I'm done. Because you know what? What they did was they sat this person down and they said, you know what? We're all going to sit here and we're all going to talk about how you might want to sign this NDA so that we could kind of keep this under the rug, you know? It's bullshit.
Starting point is 00:26:59 It's bullshit. You're absolutely right. You cannot pretend you're a moral organization anymore. Nope. And they didn't fire a moral organization anymore. Nope. And they didn't fire this guy? Yeah, man. No, they... They were like,
Starting point is 00:27:10 put him in counseling and shit. They're like, they found out and they knew. And they were like, no, put him in counseling. With counseling? Yeah. He was already a counselor.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Yeah. And on that same... And I grouped these two stories together on purpose. On that same topic, this is from WBOC.com. I think that's a NBC affiliate out of Delmarva. I don't know where the fuck that's at. Sussex County pastor indicted on child porn charges, Department of Justice searching for more victims.
Starting point is 00:27:39 So again, I want to read directly from this article. I want to read, I want to read directly from this article. The Department of Justice says 62-year-old Leonard Eli was indicted on November the 28th on one count of sexual solicitation of a minor, two counts of possession of child pornography, and one count of theft by false pretenses, following an investigation into charges that he solicited nude photographs from a minor over the course of a year. Eli, whose victim was a former member of his church, Storm Shelter Ministries, is further alleged to have paid for the photographs using stolen funds from his church's account.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Jesus! Wow. Again, same thing. He used his position in the church. Yeah. Right? There's a lot going on there. It's like a hat trick.
Starting point is 00:28:23 It really is. There's like so many different violations of things, but specifically the violation of the children again. That's the other, that's the other problem. Right. Right. And the specific and intentional use of his position as a moral authority.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Yeah. To gain access to and to groom and to build trust. Yeah, you're right. You're right. That's what grooming is. This is grooming. That's it. Yeah. That's it. This is it. All over the news, it's like, oh, maybe a library book with ideas I don't like is grooming. No, that's not grooming. Yeah. That's not grooming. Like reading, like a
Starting point is 00:28:54 book is not grooming. Grooming is your pastor and your camp counselor at fucking Jesus Church or whatever, or Jesus Camp or whatever, that spends years of time and abuses their authority and their position to gain access to and build trust in order to sexually violate children. That's grooming. We should look into that. Yeah, we absolutely should. I actually think we should build entirely new laws around using an abuse of authority
Starting point is 00:29:23 as a stricter, a stricter standard, right? I think when you are invested with authority in certain roles, like pastor, like teacher, when you have certain trusted cop, absolutely. When society invests in you certain positions of trust and authority, and you use that position of trust and authority to violate the public that you have been tasked with protecting in some way, I think that absolutely that should be a different class and penalty of crime. Because it is different. It's not the same. It's objectively just different.
Starting point is 00:30:01 It has a different, more morally objectionable element to it. And, you know, one of the things that's been happening, you know, for decades is the Republicans will project what they are doing on somebody else to try to make them feel like they're the bad people. They're the ones who are doing the wrong thing. And they just happen to pick trans people or people in drag, you know, a different, you know, I know those two things are different. I'm just saying that they choose both of them. And so they go out of their way to choose different people in the LGBT spectrum so that they can then attack them for things that they're doing. It's like, you know, how many people are, you know, for the drag story hour, how many people are not clothed? Because here's the thing, in both the stories we just talked about, some people didn't have clothes on in those situations.
Starting point is 00:31:00 How many people in those other situations? You know what I mean? Like you're just, you're a fucking liar. You're a projector and that's what you do and you're absolutely right there's there's there's been there's an entire grooming ring an entire grooming pedophile ring that has been around for centuries it's the catholic church it's been around for centuries man and they haven't stopped it's fucking full steam ahead trains Trains on the tracks, baby. That's not, that's not slowing down for anything. Fuck. They go out of their way to like, fuck legislation over and take away fucking like, like the chance for people that have the statute of limitations. They, whenever they try to take that down, they're like, no, no, we need to have the statute of limitations in check so we can make sure that we protect these churches. It's
Starting point is 00:31:43 bullshit. And they've been doing this for years. Not just one church, most churches have this. So, you know, fuck them all. I'm absolutely with you. They should fucking, they should have some sort of specific rules and harder regulations against people in power that manipulate children and that wind up raping and diddling them. Get rid of them. Get rid of those people and make sure they can never do it again. You know, that's the problem too here is that in a lot of these stories, you'll just hear, oh yeah, and then they just got moved to a different place or they got a different title. Now they're food and beverage director, but they're still raping kids. Yeah, man. Like there should be like not just a childhood, like a sex predator registry, but there should be a registry
Starting point is 00:32:25 that you have abused a position of public trust. Yeah, man. And like, you should be disallowed forever to be put in another position of public trust. Like, I'm sorry, like you were a teacher that did this or a politician that did this shit or you were a cop that did this shit or a pastor. Sorry, guess what?
Starting point is 00:32:45 Here's a whole category of jobs now you will never be able to qualify for again. When you abuse the public trust, you should never again be imbued with the public trust. But these guys, you know, look at Jim Baker. Jim Baker's a fucking rapist. Like Jim Baker is a felon and he's a rapist. And he went to, he stole money from his own parishioners. He just fucking straight up stole money from his own parishioners. And he's back in ministry. He should be denied the ability to start a ministry. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Sorry, man. No ministry for you. You can't, you can't even start your own fucking church. If you do, it's not going to be tax exempt. It will not be a recognized church. Yeah. And then there's no money in it for you. So why would you do it? You won't grift. Yeah. You won't grift if we don't make it profitable to subsidize your grift. Get the fuck out of here, Jack. So this story is a piece of deliciousness.
Starting point is 00:33:36 This is from Only Sky. After eviction, Christian hate preacher Jonathan Shelley can't find a new home. Nobody wants to lease to us. Wah, wah. Mew, mew, mew. You know, if you're going to engage in hate speech all the time, you probably shouldn't rely on free market necessities. That's all I'm saying. You should just own everything. Or, you know, go like that guy.
Starting point is 00:34:02 You remember that documentary where that guy, like, builds his own fucking like log cabin in the middle of Alaska or whatever? They should fucking, they should just take this hate preacher and this hate preacher should just have to go. Like he bought a fucking big tract of land somewhere with his fucking money
Starting point is 00:34:16 and he's got to go hack down a bunch of trees and cut notches in them and live in a fucking log house forever because nobody's going to fucking rent him anything. That's the fuck. I love it. And no one should fucking do anything for him, right? So he can't hire a team to fucking build it
Starting point is 00:34:32 because it's a free market. And they can be like, I don't want to work for fucking some Nazi. Eat a dick. And so nobody works for him. And so he essentially has nobody who could do anything for him. He just has a big pile of money
Starting point is 00:34:42 that he can't do anything with. Good. Just fucking hide in your money, dipshit. Nobody cares. Nobody cares that you can't get necessities. Nobody is fucking crying. Nobody. I would love it, and I would fully support if Verizon wouldn't renew his phone contract.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Yeah, man. If Comcast wouldn't provide him internet, right? These are private companies. They should, and I know that some people will write us that like Comcast is in many ways regulated as a utility, right? Like a public utility.
Starting point is 00:35:12 So I get that. But like, I don't think Verizon has to. Well, they don't function like a public utility. Yeah, they don't function as the fucking, well, fucking. You know what, I'll tell you what, I've never had a water outage.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I know, right? Yeah. You know? Not in the middle of a stream. I didn't have like no stream. You know what I mean? Right. what. I've never had a water outage. I know, right? Yeah. You know? Not in the middle of a stream. I didn't have like no stream. You know what I mean? Right. I didn't have no stream in a stream.
Starting point is 00:35:31 But yeah, I would love it if this guy couldn't, not only if he couldn't lease a fucking another hate building anywhere, I would love it if nobody would sell him a car. I would love it if nobody would get him a cell phone plan. Free market. I would love it if everywhere he wins, we should boycott people. Like, that's the thing. Free market. You can't hate the free market. If you're here and you're
Starting point is 00:35:52 mad about this and you like the free market, you can't argue with me. You're not allowed to argue with me. You either like the free market or you don't. Period. The end. That's how this stuff, fuck off. Period. Get out of here, dickwad. I it good let you know what i hope the fuck i hope all these fucking hate-filled assholes find themselves in a position
Starting point is 00:36:11 where they just can't do anything yeah like i'd love it if like united airlines was like we're not selling you airplane tickets yeah man like i just don't want to sell you airplanes every single fucking one of these fucking hate fuckers will flip their shit if somebody gets called out for when they are forced to work for a protected group, right? So like, let's say somebody doesn't want to bake a cake for a black person. You can't do that. You're not allowed to do that, right? You got like, that's a protected group of people. You can't do that. But ideas aren't protected. Your ideas aren't protected. Like, I can change what my ideas are. I can't do that. But ideas are protected. Your ideas are protected. Like I can change what my ideas are. I can't change whether I'm white or black.
Starting point is 00:36:49 I can't change that. But I can change my ideas. And that's the difference between these two things. You can't do that to somebody who can't change who they are. But you certainly can to somebody who's choosing to be a fuckhead. And you know what? It says I'm going to tap the sign back here. It says, no fuckheads.
Starting point is 00:37:08 You don't get a car. You don't get a sandwich. You don't get a pizza. You don't get anything. You get zero. Go on, move along with your life. Yeah, man, there's a case that the Supreme Court has already heard and is in consideration right now.
Starting point is 00:37:22 They just heard this like last month, if I'm not mistaken, or a few weeks ago, where a woman is a graphic designer, and she took a case all the way to the Supreme Court saying, I know it, and I'm not even kidding, I know it hasn't happened yet, but I don't ever want to design a web page for a gay couple. So I want the Supreme Court to rule on whether or not I will, in the future tense, ever have to supply a web design site to a gay couple. Because I find that fucking objectionable because I'm a bigot. And crazy enough, even though she wasn't harmed in any way, she had no damages. In fact, it had never even come up where anyone tried to hire her for this work. The Supreme Court took that case up.
Starting point is 00:38:06 And the Supreme Court took that case up, according to all the analysis I read, because they want to overturn the prior decisions that have been made that granted people protections based on their sexual orientation. That's why they took this case up, is from everything that I've read. Sure, because they're a fucking group of monsters. They are. So by that same, by that exact same logic, great. You know what?
Starting point is 00:38:30 If we're going to, if we're going to live by the letter of this fucking horrible law where, all right, some web designer doesn't have to design a website for a gay couple because she's a bigot, then I'll tell you what, nobody has to lease anything to this lady. Yeah. Like nobody has to, you know what, Cisco, you don't have to fucking sell her routers, you know, for her fucking web business.
Starting point is 00:38:50 You don't have to, we should just, we can just stop providing her services. We can do it all. We can do it right now. If that's the case, then yeah. Yeah. If you're setting the precedent. That's on you then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Great. Awesome. Great news. No matter where you go, people can turn you away for any, sorry, specifically because it's you. I don't want you in my business. Like if she tried to buy a house and she came to my company, I could be like, oh, you know what? It turns out I'm not going to do your closing. Yeah. I know it's the day of your closing, but I'm just going to not do it. What I'm going to do but I'm just going to not do it. That's what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I'm just going to not do it. I'm just going to not do it. That's how that's going to work. Wow. We all have that right now. That's the right these fuckers are going to establish, and we need to turn it right back on them. We need to turn it back on them. They're turning it on the vulnerable. That's what they're doing. So we need to turn it back on them. We need to boycott them individually. Yeah. They have to wear like a red letter A or something. It'd be the only shirts we'll sell them. They'd go to Kohl's, it'd just be like a letter A section.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Sorry. Can I shop anywhere else? No, it's all husky. It just stands for asshole. Right. Right. We have orders to transfer the crewman and the equipment on that list to pegasus this one's rough cecil's from yahoo texas creates chilling registry of 16 000 people
Starting point is 00:40:16 who changed genders on their driver's licenses this is texas attorney general ken paxton his office requested the Department of Public Safety to compile this list. They didn't get it, though, right? Calling for the total number of Texans. They didn't get it, though. Yeah. They did not get it. But even requesting this, even requesting it. Yeah, why do you need it? You can't need this for anything nice, period. You're not going to send everybody a $50 gift card on that list. And they're trying to pretend.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Right. Yeah. This isn't like the naughty and nice list where you're just like, yeah. You're not going to give them like a, oh, well, you get out of traffic violations for the whole year or something. That's not how this works. You're not asking for that for any nice reason, period. Right. works. You're not asking for that for any nice reason, period. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:03 This isn't like a trans secret Santa that the Attorney General was trying to whip up last minute. Like, oh no, I was going to do a funny white elephant thing with all the trans people. I'm going to give a gift and pass it around. No, no, absolutely not. They tried to deny that
Starting point is 00:41:19 they did it, even though there's internal emails. No, I didn't do it. I didn't do it. I'm the best. I didn't do it. Like they learned from Trump, man. They learned from Trump.
Starting point is 00:41:31 He can literally get caught with his hand in a cookie jar and they'll be like, hey man, you got your hand in it. I never ate a cookie. I don't eat cookies. Cookies are bad. I would never eat a cookie. I don't have five cookies in my hand
Starting point is 00:41:43 that I can't pull it out of the jar because I won't let a single cookie out of my that I can't pull it out of the jar because I won't let a single cookie out of my hand in order to pull it out of the jar. No, it's fucking, like, but this is exactly it. And this is, this has been the motif of everybody,
Starting point is 00:41:58 everyone in the Republican Party since Trump got in is just literally even though you're caught red-handed, you're like, nope, that's not what happened. Nope, nope. Straight deny reality. What does this memo say? Nope, sorry.
Starting point is 00:42:10 No, I can't read anymore. Right, it's an internal email. Internal emails are the most obviously you sent it thing, right? Other than like sending a certified letter. So stupid, man. but these guys on the right now cecil they're they're denying that they sent tweets that they sent they're denying that they said things they said that are filmed i didn't i didn't say like i didn't say that mtg has denied
Starting point is 00:42:38 her jewish space lasers comment it's you when you tweeted it. You tweeted it. Did you see this week that MTG and Boebert were fighting? Did you see this? No, what are they fighting about? I don't know. Somebody called somebody a name and they were fighting about something. It's so, like, I hate them both so much and they're so
Starting point is 00:43:00 inconsequential to daily life that every time I see their name I just scroll past it. But sometimes I'll catch pieces of it and be like, oh, I guess they're fighting. I don't care. Fight. And like, I'm that guy in Godzilla
Starting point is 00:43:13 who's like watching all the big monsters fight and be like, let them fight, man. No, just let them fight. Let them do it. Let them figure all this out. I love when they fight. You don't need me. I'm over here.
Starting point is 00:43:23 You guys fight. Crank it out. I don't need to do anything'm over here. You guys fight. Crank it out. I don't need to do anything. I want to see them tear each other apart. I want to see every single one of them fight each other until they're like, they're just nubs of human beings. That's what I want to see. That's what they started off as.
Starting point is 00:43:37 I mean, yeah, granted. Granted, yeah. Did you see that Liz Croken? Remember Liz Nine Fingers Croken? Yeah. The good old Nine Fingers, she had a private yeah but oh god did you see that liz croakin remember liz nine fingers croak yeah the good old good old nine fingers she had a private like a sit down with with trump what yeah man here let me google it it's like a week or two ago hold on i'm gonna find it yeah man was she nick fuentes plus one she probably was she probably was. She probably was. I don't know if she's that anti-Semitic.
Starting point is 00:44:08 I mean, I'm sure she's anti-Semitic, but she's not that anti-Semitic. She's not a plus 10. That ship has sailed. She's a nine and a half. Yeah, man. Like Liz Croken. This is from the 7th of December. So it's a couple of weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Oh, this is a couple of weeks ago. I missed this. Trump poses with QAnon Pizzagate conspiracy theorist at Mar-a-Lago. Former President Donald Trump posed for photos at his waterfront club on Tuesday with a prominent QAnon conspiracy theorist.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Holy shit. In the latest in a string of incidents that highlight the GOP's candidates' proximity to fringe figures. Liz Croken, an avid supporter of the far right-wing conspiracy theory, shared photographs of her and Trump to social media following a Tuesday fundraiser
Starting point is 00:45:05 at Mar-a-Lago. Tonight, I had the privilege and honor to speak at America's Future Fundraiser to combat child trafficking. Some of the topics I discussed were Pizzagate, Balenciaga, and what President Trump's administration
Starting point is 00:45:19 did to combat human trafficking. Yeah, man. That's a reel. Can I ask you a question? I mean, this is just a question to see what you think. You know, clearly none of us know the mind of Trump. We don't understand. Do you think him leaning towards the fringe is because no one of real worth will really
Starting point is 00:45:41 talk to him anymore? worth will really talk to him anymore? Or do you think that as he's been under fire for the last several years, he himself has shifted over to that position and is now in this mindset where he believes it? Do you think he's starting to believe all this stuff because it's convenient for him to think it? It's a real hard question. It's a hard question. It's a great question, though. What I think is twofold. I think that, yes, he does believe it. I think that we've seen evidence over the course of many years that Trump is a, there's a lot of reason to believe that he is a conspiracy theorist at heart. I don't disagree. I don't disagree.
Starting point is 00:46:26 That he has those tendencies. And I think that as he's become more powerful and more isolated, that that probably has exacerbated that. And then I also think that he is betting on and overestimating deeply, I think. But I think he is betting on motivating a fringe that will take him to victory. I think rather than fight for the middle and fight for the middle, like the center of the right instead, I think his strategy is to impassion more crazies. I really think he's trying to change the electorate and increase the number of motivated crazies. I mean, I will say it's smart of him because when we were looking at the numbers for this sort of thing, you know, the numbers of people who think QAnon is a real thing is, that's
Starting point is 00:47:18 real, man. That's significant. And the number of Republicans who think QAnon or Frazzledrip or, you know, all this crazy shit, the amount of people that think it's true, there's enough of them there to push things, to push the scale over if you can get the regular sort of no matter what they're going to vote Republican. I think that's his math. I really do. And I think we, I think the problem with, I think the problem with serious and intelligent people is they think that everybody else is a serious, intelligent person. And that's just not borne out by any of the demographic realities of polling. So when you and I, Cecil, when we look at something like QAnon or Frazzledrip and Balenciaga, all that nonsense, and we see it for what it is and it's absurd
Starting point is 00:48:05 there isn't there is a sort of uh default assumption at least i'll raise my hand and say i have i don't want to speak for you but there's a default assumption that most people also think that's absurd and that these ideas are fringe ideas held by crazies like i just said but i think that what you've just said is more correct is that these ideas are held by crazies, like I just said. But I think that what you've just said is more correct, is that these ideas are held by an increasingly large number of people. The number of people who believe in wild, insane shit is far greater than I ever would have given it credit for in the past. And I think serious, intelligent people do ourselves and everybody else a disservice by not taking seriously enough. I'm going to say this.
Starting point is 00:48:50 We should be taking more seriously flat earthers. We should be taking that seriously. They're serious. They're not a couple of them. We should be taking QAnon seriously. They're serious about it. There's not a couple of them. We should be taking, you know, Pizzagate seriously. QAnon, seriously. They're serious about it. There's not a couple of them. We should be taking, you know, Pizzagate seriously. QAnon is so big at this point. It's kind of all of these things. Yeah. And QAnon is kind of a serve your,
Starting point is 00:49:12 it's kind of choose your own adventure conspiracy too. Some QAnoners think there's a child trafficking ring. Some QAnoners think that President Bush is going to, or President, yeah, President Bush is going to get, kill people. And then President Trump is still in office, et cetera, et cetera. And someone may think both those things at the same time and not be in cognitive dissonance at all. And there's tons of different layers to that. QAnon, you ever go to one of those frozen yogurt places where there's 75 different flavors of
Starting point is 00:49:44 frozen yogurt that you can just like walk around with your cup and have whichever one you want. But at the end of the day, they all just taste like spoiled milk and sugar. That's QAnon. That's QAnon. Without the sugar. Without the sugar. Yeah. Without the sugar. It is. It's like no matter which flavor you get, Yeah, without the sugar. It is. It's like no matter which flavor you get,
Starting point is 00:50:07 you can go into the fucking QAnon shop and you can get whatever flavor is listed on the placard, but it's all sour milk. That's what it is. It's all cold sour milk. It's terrible. I don't like frozen yogurt. I guess we should take away from that. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:50:23 That's how Liz Crokin lost her finger was in a frozen yogurt machine. A frozen yogurt is, I guess, what you should take away from that. It's bad. That's how Liz Crokin lost her finger, was in a frozen yogurt machine. A frozen yogurt machine. He is a virus and I'm the vaccine. This story comes from thepalmbeachpost.com. Holy hell, the dangers and rising religious exemptions to school vaccinations in Florida. Now, I grabbed this story, Cecil, because the juice and the heart of this story isn't COVID, but it also is 100% COVID. Yeah. What I mean by that is that the overall vaccination rate is plummeting in places that sowed fear about the COVID vaccinations.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Florida is the perfect example of that. And so it's not just that people aren't getting the COVID vaccine. Now people aren't getting the, all of the vaccines or any of the vaccines, which is going to cause measles and mumps and rubella and typhoid or typhus or typhoid. I've forgotten. Like the number of diseases
Starting point is 00:51:23 that are still floating around out there. Polio, for God's sake, is back. You're going to have kids getting fucking genital warts and cervical cancer that don't need to get it because they're going to avoid Gardasil. Like we are talking about a host, a panoply of disasters that could all be, we don't have to, we've never faced them. We have not faced these in generations. There's a packet of vaccines that you get that protect everybody, right? It's not just you, it's everybody. And you get it so that everybody around you
Starting point is 00:51:59 won't be able to get it too because they're all protected and maybe one or two of them who couldn't get it because they had some sort of immunocompromised thing going on or maybe one or two people back in the day had a crazy parent who wouldn't let them do it. You know, maybe that happened.
Starting point is 00:52:16 And we still got by, but herd immunity and we still got by. But with this new introduction of COVID vaccine hesitancy and, you know, COVID vaccine denial, you know, we're talking about vaccine denial and then, you know, the blatant lies that have been coming out. And then you have this guy who's the attorney general down there, not attorney general, the surgeon general, whatever. Attorney general is a different guy. He does different stuff. If he's in Florida, he's equally useless.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Admittedly, both of them are equally qualified to tell you about vaccines, the attorney general or the surgeon general. Because the surgeon general has been a vaccine, he's been pushing vaccine misinformation since the beginning, and he was handpicked by DeSantis. We're in this position now where even in our area,
Starting point is 00:53:06 recently I hurt myself and I had to go to the emergency room and I cut myself and they had to give me a shot and they were really cautious about how they talked about, they were like, when was your last tetanus shot?
Starting point is 00:53:18 And I was like, I don't know. I don't remember. Fucking, I don't, literally don't even remember. And they're like, they're like, well, we might have to, we should probably give you like the tetanus shot.
Starting point is 00:53:28 You should probably get, I'm just like, give me the tetanus shot. Like, I just like, what is happening? Like, why are we, why are we talking like this? Like, what, you know, they suddenly like lower their voice
Starting point is 00:53:38 and they're like leaning in real close. Like we should probably, like, and I'm like, what the fuck? Where am I? Just chill me with whatever. You're the one in charge. You're driving. Just do what you got to do. But it's like, there is this situation that we're in now where they recognize that it could be a possible explosive moment in the ER. If they
Starting point is 00:53:59 say, well, we're going to give you a tetanus shot. You're going to give me a what now? I ain't doing no stupid shots. You ain't putting no stuff in me. I'm a pure blood. But they seriously, like, I'm not even kidding. They, like, they drop their voice and, like, slowly and calmly
Starting point is 00:54:18 like explain. I'm just like, it's a tetanus shot. Yeah, I want one. I don't want to get whatever it is that I don't want to get. Like, let's just move past this. I don't want tetanus.. Yeah, I want one. I don't want to get whatever it is that I don't want to get. Like, let's just move past this. I don't want tetanus. I want lockjaw. Yeah. Like, I don't want fucking lockjaw. Give me all your tetanus shots. But even up here, even up here, even in a place where, you know, you would hope, because, you know, Illinois has been doing pretty good when it comes to vaccines. And, you know, you wouldn't
Starting point is 00:54:41 expect that sort of thing. Even up here, that's what's happening. Because there has been this weird thing happening in our culture where vaccines have been a lifesaver for decades. And now they're something that people, not everybody is down with. Now they've somehow read an internet site one time and they are 100% not down with it. That's how they make their decisions. That's how I make my decisions in life. Life or death decisions in my life get made by reading one website. That's how I do it.
Starting point is 00:55:12 It is a truth that literally several generations now of research and development on vaccines and the work that's been, it has unraveled itself in two and a half years. Yeah. In two and a half, almost three years. You're absolutely right. That is how long it took.
Starting point is 00:55:30 We have caused ourselves decades, if not generations of damage. And that damage will be felt in disease and death and disfiguring and horror and pain and suffering. That is the price we will pay. And we paid that price. Let's not mistake why we paid that price. We paid that price so a small handful of self-serving politicians could keep their hold on power in the midst of an international crisis. Make no mistake, that's exactly what it's about.
Starting point is 00:56:04 That's what happened. Yeah. of an international crisis. Make no mistake, that's exactly what it's about. That's what happened. Yeah. And they fed on the fears that were fed for years
Starting point is 00:56:08 on parents who were terrified that something could happen to their children, that something bad could happen to their children. And they were so terrified that by blown up, exaggerated,
Starting point is 00:56:21 crazy numbers that literally never happened, that they were terrified enough to not just put their child at risk, but to risk lives of other children who cannot benefit from those medicines. We've fed on that for too long. We've made too many decisions, public health decisions, personal decisions, and that's the wrong way to go. You're exact. You know, it is a mutually exclusive statement that public health is a matter of individual choice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:53 That is not mutually, that should be a mutually impossible and mutually exclusive statement. We do ourselves as a society a disservice when we insist on this hyper individualistic bullshit yep and this hyper individualistic mentality we we live in a society we have an obligation to the public we have an obligation to the society that we live in we sometimes have to make choices that are not individually the choices we would make for ourselves in order to protect the well-being of others that's literally what being in a society is.
Starting point is 00:57:26 It's why you can't drive whatever speed you want. Right. It's why you can't blow red lights. It's why you have to obey. It's the reason we have any laws at all. They are implicitly a recognition of the obligations and restraints on the individual in order to live in a society. It is insane to me that we all of a sudden
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Starting point is 00:59:01 worth your while. And it would just make a difference to us as well. We got a message from Colin. And Colin talks about white fragility. We read White Fragility as our book club for last month. And we talked about it on our podcast that goes out to patrons only. And he had some interesting things to say about this. He did.
Starting point is 00:59:22 He said that there is a cishet male in the US living in Seattle, which is fairly progressive. What they weren't expecting was the pushback that they got from reading the book, White Fragility, just from reading the book. Just knowing that he was reading it made some folks feel discomfited and offensive, even folks who he loves and respects,
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Starting point is 00:59:59 Absolutely. So we got a message from Stone Banana and Stone Banana sent in, he said, the Trump grift keeps on grifting. Evidently there's a, I'm not gonna link it, but you can go there if you want. TrumpChristmasBox.com is a little exclusive Christmas box. With this box, you can show your close friends and family
Starting point is 01:00:17 that you're a true American patriot. These are the reasons we recommend that you order it. And there's a one of akind piece of memorabilia, not just for collectors, but for all Americans in it. And so it's an absolute grift, just like his NFTs are a grift, just like everything the guy's ever done is a grift. And so we'll post a couple of image here
Starting point is 01:00:38 on this week's show notes so you could check it out. God, I've never wanted anything in my life less than the Santa combo box by Trump. And that includes most VD. Yeah. You know? Most. You kidding me?
Starting point is 01:00:52 Most. Yeah, I mean, I would take the Trump box over some of it. But, you know, anything can be cured with antibiotics. I'd rather have that than the fucking Trump box. A bunch of people sent this to us, Tom, this week. But Spencer is the one we're going to talk about. Spencer sent in a YouTube link to
Starting point is 01:01:07 Malortnag. There is no... I mean, you can't combine two worse flavors than that, right? That's like a Trump-Pence ticket right there. That's what that is. Right? That's exactly what it is.
Starting point is 01:01:23 This is one of those like combinations that to think about it actually sends shivers of disgust down my spine. Like I feel like curling up like a bug in a windowsill, just like my arms want to like crinkle inward and like protect me.
Starting point is 01:01:38 Just fucking die. Just fucking, it sounds so horrible. It does. It's not, oh. Not ever for a fun live stream challenge. No, that's not even fun. It's not... Oh. Not ever for a fun live stream challenge. No, that's not even fun.
Starting point is 01:01:47 It's not fun or funny or interesting. It's gross. No. That's horrible. Got a message from Stefan and Stefan says, if anyone's wondering,
Starting point is 01:01:58 this is literally not a joke and he sent in a link and he said, they stole stock photos of outfits from... And so he put in a link and he said, they stole stock photos of outfits from, and so he put in an independent link, but Shutterstock and Reuters, et cetera,
Starting point is 01:02:12 had posted images and NFTs that Trump made apparently have been linked to those Shutterstock images. They are the same poses or the same outfits or the same, it's essentially the same thing. It's, I don't know if it is technically copyright infringement because it's,
Starting point is 01:02:30 it's been altered. So I don't know how deep it is, but it clearly, they got their inspiration from other images. Yeah. Even the golf image isn't his image.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Even the picture of him playing golf, that is a picture taken not by him. He doesn't own that just because it's a picture of him playing golf, that is a picture taken not by him. He doesn't own that just because it's a picture of him. It's fucking amazing, Tom. He's the fucking worst. It's amazing. He's the actual worst. He's such a fraud. He's such a fucking fraud. Everything is a grift. So Tom, we got a message from Vice Rhino and Vice Rhino sent in a bunch of images and he wanted to let us know about Trump's NFT prizes. Yeah, this is great. So an 18 hole game of golf for a foursome at Mar-a-Lago,
Starting point is 01:03:13 the prize value is $575. So you and three of your buddies go to Mar-a-Lago, you play golf. What's that worth? $575. If Trump joins you, this is what Trump's website says, one hour golf game. One hour? Who plays golf in an hour? At Trump Golf Palm Beach with President Trump for winner and two guests at a time to be determined. So it's another foursome. Trump is one of the players. This one's at Trump Golf Palm Beach. another foursome. Trump is one of the players. This one's like Trump Golf Palm Beach.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Prize value $300. About half. When Trump joins you, its value drops by about half. It's half. We also got an image, Tom. And this is something
Starting point is 01:04:00 that Mike sent us and something that Dr. Spankenstein sent us. It's an image that is a link to an ABC7, which is Chicago's ABC's affiliate here. Malort eggnog soft serve ice cream somewhere in Chicago. Jesus, no. You need to nuke that from orbit. How fucking dare you?
Starting point is 01:04:22 Not only disgusting Malort eggnog, but soft serve it? Turn it into soft serve? That's a hate crime. That is, if this was, if the only way to make this worse
Starting point is 01:04:35 would be to make this Malort eggnog fro-yo. So it's, so it tastes a little spoiled. Yeah, so it's just like, yeah, all right. So everything in this went bad. It just all tastes a little spoiled. Yeah, so it's just like, yeah, all right. So everything in this went bad. It just all tastes a little spoiled.
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