Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 663 - Punxsutawney Kevin

Episode Date: January 9, 2023

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Starting point is 00:01:18 Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news makes it big or makes us mad it's skeptical it's political and there is no welcome at this is episode 663 of cognitive dissonance and cecil yeah i don't know what time it is that the listeners are hearing this but i doubt they're listening to it with a new speaker of the house. Couldn't happen to a nicer bag of assholes. We need that lady from Home Alone who's like, Kevin! We need that lady just to scream every time he loses.
Starting point is 00:01:57 You're the best Kevin scream. Every time he loses, that's what you need. You just need her to scream it out. So good. I would give anything to see Kevin McCarthy doing the fucking face slap. Like he just got the, the, the aftershave on his cheeks. So good. It's so good. This is, here's the thing. And you know what, we're going to,
Starting point is 00:02:16 we're going to move into more serious stuff. Cause this is, this is fucking clown car politics. Clown car politics, Tom. And it is so, it's so telling that even in your own party full of people who are, you know, very, very extreme at this point. Yes. Oh my God. You guys polluted this pool so much. Yep. You pooped in the pool so much that there's a bunch of baby roots floating around in there. And that's on you. That's on you. You pooped in the pool, man. Yeah, man. When you fucking emerge from that water with a fucking dookie on your head. You fucking ain't right, man. You fucking ain't right. That's your dookie.
Starting point is 00:02:52 It's somebody's fault. And it's because what you did was you decided what you were going to do is you were going to reach out to the voters on the far, far, far right. Yeah. And you needed to get as many of those people as possible. And, you know, this is not hyperbole because, you know, the person who stepped down from the presidency is having dinner with Nick Fuentes at certain, I mean, within the last six months. It is impossible, I think at this point, to speak about the right and speak hyperbolically.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Right. Like I can't even imagine what hyperbole and the right, what would you make up? I don't know. Jewish space lasers? I don't know. Would you make up a scenario where the first thing
Starting point is 00:03:33 that the House does when they take control of the House is to remove the metal detectors that literally protect them? Well, they removed it for House members. It's for House members to come in. I don't think they removed it
Starting point is 00:03:44 for just the general public. No, I know. But like, they're removing metal, the metal detector. Nobody else would, if somebody brought, if one of the house members was a fucking crazy person. Oh, and they are. And they are, right? They're full of these fucking crazy nutbag ultra extremists.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I mean, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. Who's like, you know what? I actually don't want to be safer. That's the concession I'll make to my own self. Yeah, man. Is to reduce my personal safety. What the, that is your,
Starting point is 00:04:13 that's your fucking, hey, look, we're here to work for America. It's one of the most important things we can do is make sure that somebody in Congress is packing heat right now. That is an important part. What the fuck? Within the first week of those things getting installed,
Starting point is 00:04:26 someone, I think it was Boebert, brought a pistol. Carried anyway. She carried anyway. She got fined for it, like five grand or something. What a delight this has been. It has been so good, dude, because... As of this recording, they were... Eleven. Eleven and oh. Eleven were nos, and as we came upstairs, they were voting for twelve. Oh, so it's twelve. You're right, it's twelve.
Starting point is 00:04:42 So we're at twelve, probably twelve nos, right? They didn't You're right, it's 12. So we're at 12. Probably 12 no's, right? Right. They didn't have any time in between to talk. Right. So it's going to be the same vote again.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yes. So it's the same vote again. The Democrats just keep making them do the same vote. The Democrats are just like, no, stay here! It's like Groundhog Day. That guy's going to come out
Starting point is 00:05:02 and he's going to be a fucking big groundhog. He's going to be holding it like Puxatawney Phil or whatever. Puxatawney Phil for Speaker of the House. Puxatawney Kevin. That's his name from now on. That's it. Oh, so good.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Oh, God. It's so wonderful. Dude, it's so wonderful. It's just been the best to see them because they can't agree and they can't. Nobody wants to work together. And the thing is, I make it sound, there is a little hyperbole in there because 200 of them voted for him. Yeah, 200.
Starting point is 00:05:28 But there are almost 20, 21, I think. there's 20 lunatic fringe. Yeah, there's fringe people. When you're already on the lunatic fringe and then the fringe of the fringe, it's when, the thing is like,
Starting point is 00:05:41 and you hit the nail on the head earlier, when your entire party's focus has been a politics of obstruction, when obstructionism and trolling has been seen as the primary social and political value of your party, why would you expect not to get trolled? My, my, my. Why, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions? What are these? Oh, man. No, but you are right. And that's a great point, Tom.
Starting point is 00:06:10 They have, for years, done this thing where they've tried to stall everything. Yeah. So part of me wonders, this doesn't matter. This could go on the entire two years. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:06:22 They just can't see that. He's lost 70,000 times. And, and here's the thing though, it will have accomplished every single thing that they set out to accomplish. Yeah. It's their whole legislative agenda. This is their legislative agenda and has been for years, which is do nothing. And when you do do something, make sure that you accuse somebody of wrongdoing that probably didn't do anything. Bring them in front of you and make them fucking beg for mercy. That's it, right. Those are the only two things
Starting point is 00:06:48 you're really going to do. Supplicate in front of me. Only two things you're going to do. Yeah. Let Jim Jordan get really red-faced and yell at you for a half an hour. This is just... It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:06:59 It's a beautiful thing. To fuck around is to find out, you know? Oh, God. It sure is. Oh, God. All right is. Oh, God. All right, so we got to do this story. This story comes from Vice News. Far-right trolls are already spreading
Starting point is 00:07:12 anti-vax conspiracies about DeMar Hamlin. Did I pronounce that right? No, I didn't see the clip. So he gets hit in the chest and the head area with a helmet. Okay. Snaps back up right afterwards and then walks a couple feet and then just collapses.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Oh, shit. For 10 straight minutes, they're doing CPR on him on the field. They spent 10 minutes. They restarted his heart on the field. Oh, God. So he had died or something. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I mean, I don't know if you're dead technically there. I don't know the technical terms. Did he fumble the ball when he got hit? I think he's died or something. Oh, God. I mean, I don't know if you're dead technically there. I don't know the technical terms. Did he fumble the ball when he got hit? I think he's on the defense. So I think he hit the other. Oh, okay. The other guy ran into him. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:07:53 I think. I'm pretty sure he's on the defense. I think he's a safety. I don't know because I don't watch the Bulls. Safety's a little ironic given the sport. I'll tell you. It sure is. It's really safe here.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Jesus. But in any case, he fell down and had a heart attack and then they had to start his heart and then they rushed him off to the thing and then they played for like another 10 minutes and they're like, you know what, we don't like this, let's stop. Our heart's not in it.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Yikes. I don't have a heart for this game. Too soon. That joke was not meant as an attack. The thing is, Too soon. So, that joke was not meant as an attack. He, the thing is, is this, this is now being shown by all these people on the fucking far right and left
Starting point is 00:08:36 to who are anti-vaxxers. And they're saying, cause of this, you know, cause of that died suddenly and all this stuff. They're all saying this was brought on. It was within hours. There was tons of misinformation
Starting point is 00:08:48 about how this is brought on by, you know, the vaccine. He took the vaccine. Are we looking into if it's a vaccine? You're just like, this is the same thing as if, it's the same thing as controlled demolition on the towers. Because you're like, we have a clear fucking winner for why his heart stopped. Sure.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Huge impact right in the middle of the field. To the chestal region. To the chest. There's all kinds of stuff that can happen to you. And, you know, since it hadn't happened in the major footballs yet in the NFL, people were like, oh, it's like a crazy thing. But you're like, no, man, if you get hit like that, sometimes you could just fucking die. That can happen. And these guys fucking truck each other, man. They like lay the fucking wood on each other all the
Starting point is 00:09:32 time. And you're just like, like these guys, they, they have segments on the, on the, on the news, on the, on the sports channel where they're just like, like, uh, you know, like fucking boom segments where people get fucking rocked and their shoes fly off. Well, it's because they dress them up like fucking medieval knights. These are fucking Ram men. They're all Ram men from the key man. Yeah, they have spring legs. They're just fucking spring legs and fucking bouncing them with their face.
Starting point is 00:09:57 The amount of, like football is essentially jousting without the horse. Exactly. That's exactly right. It's human jousting. It is exactly. This sport would be safer if they didn't have padding. That's exactly right. It's just human jousting. It's human jousting. It is exactly true. This sport would be safer if they didn't have padding. That's why rugby is safer.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Yeah, the sport would be safer. Yeah, rugby's safer because- Nobody would use their body as a human battering ram. Rugby is more like wrestling, right? They got to grab a guy and sort of pull him down. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Sometimes people do get trucked in rugby. Oh, I'm sure. But it's not the same thing. These guys fucking lower their head and like spear each other. They had to, within the last 20 years in football, they have called,
Starting point is 00:10:31 they have started to enforce rules to try to soften the damage of the game. But, you know, you go back to the 80s and like 90s, they were like, you could hit a receiver, like you could hit, they have a penalty now
Starting point is 00:10:48 where if you're going up for the ball and like somebody just fucking trucks you. Like while you're in the air? Yeah, like that's a penalty. Okay. But it didn't used to be.
Starting point is 00:11:00 I remember watching clips of people like going like flipsy flipsy. Like they'll flip their fucking, they flip ass over. They call it like, flipsy-flipsy. They'll flip their fucking flip-o ass over. They call it unprotected or something. I'm not a huge football fan. I like watching the Bears,
Starting point is 00:11:13 but I don't know a lot about the footballs. I don't know a lot about the fouls and all that stuff. I don't know what they are. I kind of peripherally know it, but that's a thing. The other thing, too, is roughing the quarterback I kind of peripherally know it, but that's like a thing. Like on, on. And then the other thing too, is roughing the quarterback has really started been,
Starting point is 00:11:31 they started really paying more, a lot more attention to that. Like late hits on the quarterback, quarterback gets pulled down after the play. Cause the quarterback's like relatively unprotected in order to do his job. He's got to not be looking for defenders. Yeah. And there's people that can get to him. They're really trying to stop him.
Starting point is 00:11:43 And so he has like a, he can get fucking laid into. Right. But in this case, I just wanted to say, you know, I think it's a tragedy that we're at this place
Starting point is 00:11:54 where there's so much misinformation that's coming out. I mean, this last week, Elon Musk had said that he wanted to do a Fauci files on Twitter. And so we're at this place where there's so much
Starting point is 00:12:04 misinformation out there. And again, bad actors, as soon as something like this happens, boom. This is fuel for their fire. And there's fake accounts coming up. I mean, when your side is using fake accounts to get their point across, you know you're lying.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I think you have to concede the point that you just don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I also think that it is worth noting, and I'm not suggesting that this is the cause for the DeMar Hamlin thing. I have no idea. I just read a Vice story about this, right?
Starting point is 00:12:29 I don't know anything. But also, it is worth noting that sometimes people just have heart attacks. Yeah. For no reason. Even young people. Yeah. It just happens.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Like, we're just meat, and sometimes the meat goes wrong. Sometimes the meat goes wrong in perfectly healthy, strong people. Like, I remember when I was in middle school, middle school or junior high, I don't fucking remember. One of those, same thing. I don't know. Sixth, seventh grade, somewhere around there. That would be middle school for us at sixth, seventh, eighth, right? Yeah. Some kid was on the track team and some kid just died. He just died. He just had a heart attack and died because sometimes people just die.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Like, because that's how our bodies work. My friend's dad, when I was, I used to work with a guy, and my friend's dad got up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom, walked to the bathroom, something, artery or something in his leg ruptured. He was perfectly fine. He didn't get hurt or anything. And he bled out on the back.
Starting point is 00:13:24 He just bled out internally in the bathroom floor and died within a second. Like just went to the ground. Because we're made of meat. And sometimes something goes wrong. That sucks so bad. Like the thing is. Were his pants pulled up though? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I don't know. Because here's the thing, man. I'm fine dying in the bathroom. Right. I just don't want to die on the shitter. I don't want to die in like somebody has to wipe my dead ass that would suck you know i don't want a clinger yeah you know that's no good god that sucks so bad the last thing like half a turd in you or something like that's you gotta hang her out or you know you don't need that that's not great i don't want
Starting point is 00:13:58 to be like that's not good scrubbed off the floor with some fucking yeah dingleberries hanging off i want to be accessible to a stretcher when they pull me out. Right. You know, I want to be like, kitchen. Kitchen's a great place to go.
Starting point is 00:14:11 There you go. You know what I mean? Kitchen comes- Lots of room. Lots of room. It's airy. There's plenty of place to just flay me on the floor
Starting point is 00:14:17 and then just call somebody to come get me. Chances are, I wasn't doing anything really crazy. So, yeah, you know, I mean,
Starting point is 00:14:25 I don't want to die with a carrot up my ass. You know, it's a one in a million shot you landed like that, you know? Well, like, this thing is that people, everybody wants there to be a cause. It's like a whole salad up here. What's going on? That's some strange mise en place he was working on.
Starting point is 00:14:41 What is happening? A leak? Is that a leak? Is that a live chipmunk? Sometimes the causes were made out of meat and the meat goes wrong. That's just part of it. Right. Sometimes for professional athletes, especially big, big, big guys like this,
Starting point is 00:14:58 their bodies have to undergo an enormous amount of stress to get to the size and to retain that muscularity that they retain. Sometimes these guys have, you know, they take sneaky on the side performance enhancing drug. There's a lot of reasons. There's literally no reason. And one of the reasons is no reason at all. But one reason isn't COVID vaccines, right? Like one reason that isn't. And I know that there are some, there's like, there's like some risk to your heart, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Some risk to your heart, but there's more risk from COVID to your heart. Right. Than there is from the vaccine to your heart. And these guys, you know, to refresh people's memory about the NFL, these guys were getting fucking COVID like crazy, man. Like, yeah, they, they, they thought nobody was going to get it. They're like, oh, they're going to get it. They're like, oh, they're going to be outside.
Starting point is 00:15:46 They're like, play outside. It's like you could do anything outside. You could fucking, you could fuck another person outside. And if you both have, if one of you has COVID,
Starting point is 00:15:53 the other one will get it. You actually can't get AIDS if you fuck outside. You can't. That's how it is. If you're outside, it cancels it all out. It can't.
Starting point is 00:16:01 The big X comes out. Nope, nope, nope. We're cross-multiplying the AIDS out. Listen, baby, you can't get pregnant if we're fucking outside. You know what I mean? But seriously, like, they thought in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:16:13 I'm going to get your way huffing your breath. They're like, no, man, it's going to be fine. And a bunch of fucking people were just like, this guy's out, this guy's out, this guy's out, this guy's out.
Starting point is 00:16:22 The only team, the only sport that did it right was the NBA. The NBA did it the only sport that did it right was the NBA. The NBA did it the right way by they fucking shipped everybody off in a bubble. And they said, nobody leaves the bubble. Everybody's in the bubble.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Everybody stays in the bubble. Nobody leaves the bubble. And then nobody came into the bubble unless they spent 14 days in quarantine ahead of time. Yeah. So they almost treated it like it was an infectious disease. And nobody got sick. Huh. Nobody got sick. Amazing. Because they weren't it like it was an infectious disease. And nobody got sick. Huh.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Nobody got sick. Amazing. Because they weren't allowed to leave. Now, granted, it sucks to be a million dollar guy and not be able to like go out at night, right? Sure. But, you know, if you want to make your million dollars, you got to figure out how to do it. It's better to be the million dollar guy who for a year or two or whatever can't go out at night. But also you didn't ruin your lungs.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Yeah. You didn't kill yourself. Right? Yeah. You didn't trash your fucking body with some fucking respiratory disease. Younger people are less susceptible to long COVID. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Younger people get lesser symptoms, but at the same time, getting COVID can damage your heart. Yeah. Getting COVID damages your heart way, way, way, way, way, way, way more than a vaccine can. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:25 The thing is that like if the results of, I was going to say the autopsy, but he lived. But like if the results of the investigation, the medical investigation, then certainly will be done to figure out what happened to this guy. Shows that it was this cause or that cause. Then we know that answer. Yeah. What's wildly irresponsible is to be like something happened, which let's face it, isn't everyday thing happens. No, you're right. People just have heart attacks, man. know that answer. What's wildly irresponsible is to be like, something happened, which let's face it, isn't everyday thing happens. People just have heart attacks, man. You're right. And we're just going to be like, oh, you know what the cause is? Twitter. Yeah. I'll just tweet about it. Well, and, and, you know, like I said, there's,
Starting point is 00:17:57 there's fake accounts popping up. And then again, here's another story. And this one is from Reuters, Tom. This is a fact check. No evidence that 80 Canadian doctors died from COVID vaccinations. And again, this is coming out from people who are bad actors trying to spread lies about how 80 doctors died from COVID. And they're like, and they tried to lie even about their ages and they were wildly off about their ages. Crazy off. So the claim was that these doctors were ages like 25 to 55. And so they shouldn't have died is like what the central claim is.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Because the people that are 25 to 55 don't die. They don't die. They just don't die. That never happens. Doesn't happen. My dad's major heart attack when he was 53
Starting point is 00:18:36 didn't happen. It should have killed him. The only reason it didn't is because he had it in the hospital. And he was 53. But he's 53. So he would have been fine. Not 55. Yeah, he would have been just. So he would have been fine. Not 55.
Starting point is 00:18:45 Yeah, he would have been just fine. He would have been fine. He would have walked it off at 53. He would have been like, whatever, I don't even care. Nothing could happen to him. It's like Superman. 37.
Starting point is 00:18:54 37 of them were over the age of 55. When the Reuters went to fact check it. Like one of the guys died like climbing or descending from the second largest peak in the world. Yeah. Like a couple, like one guy died in like a car accident. The problem is he was descending using vaccines on the way down. He's using them as like.
Starting point is 00:19:13 He's got syringes like going down an ice wall. He's like ice wall on his way down. And you blame it on the vaccine then. It's the vaccine's fault. It's not his fault. What? Like there's nothing even remotely honest about any of this. It's pathetic. About any of it. Yeah. It's not his fault. What? Like, there's nothing even remotely honest about any of this. It's pathetic.
Starting point is 00:19:26 About any of it. Yeah, it's pathetic. And the thing is, like, for a lot of people, fact-checking it won't work. Yeah. No, you're right. Fact-checking it should work. Yeah. We should always, when we look at this stuff, we should always be like, well, who the fuck
Starting point is 00:19:37 was that that said that? Yeah. And why do they say it? And, like, where did this info come from? And is there sources behind it? Go to any reputable source. Read through it. And like, where did this info come from? And is there sources behind it? Go to any reputable source, read through it. And there are fucking links that will take you all the time. Any reputable source you're in. I don't care if it's Reuters or AP or New York times or whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:55 When you're reading a story and they say something is true, they have fucking links to that shit. You can click on it. You can dig deeper. You can find out who the author of the thing was. Like, do the work we've talked about so many times. You can find out who, you can find out names of people, like actual names of people. You can follow the,
Starting point is 00:20:14 there's a trail there. Yeah. And you can follow it. And it's, and the problem is, is that, is that these people, they have a conclusion
Starting point is 00:20:23 that they want to get out there. Yeah. And so they're starting at the conclusion and then they're just making up data to make it. And that's all it is. It's just a made up data to try to fill that quota that they need. They need to show you that it's 80 doctors that died. And you're like, okay, but none of it's true.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Right. And the thing to keep in mind too is that it is an extraordinary claim to suggest that there is an international conspiracy. Oh, I know. Right? Because in order for this to be true, there needs to then be an international conspiracy, a conspiracy that spans the globe without exceptions, right? So this conspiracy would involve not just Western nations, but China and Russia, our adversaries, because they are also pushing vaccinations, right?
Starting point is 00:21:08 In fact, Russia's Sputnik 2 was one of the first vaccines against COVID that came out. China has their own vaccines that they are working on, including boosters, just like we have our own vaccines. So this would have to be an international vaccination scam or conspiracy that crosses lines that don't have any reason to cooperate. We are literally engaged in a proxy war at this moment with Russia through the Ukraine. That is just an absolute truth. And yet somehow we're fucking kumbaya, arms around each other, hand in hand, hands across the world in order to like randomly kill Canadian doctors.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Yeah. What? And football players. Well, or to somehow inject into a giant group of the population. Yeah. Like this is a large group of the population.
Starting point is 00:22:01 What was it? 70% of Americans got their first shot or 60% got their first shot? I don't know. Yeah. It's not even the high 60s or low 70s. They got at least one shot. You're talking about that many people in our country, you know, over a hundred million people got a shot and you're like, okay, what's the motivation? What's your motivation behind this? what's the motivation? What's your motivation behind this?
Starting point is 00:22:25 It's not money. It's not money. It can't be money because there's so many different places closed down, so many different places, you know. COVID costs a lot of money. We're all eating COVID shit all the time. Exactly. You're going to be eating for years.
Starting point is 00:22:39 And so it's not money. What is it then? And you're like, it's not trying to keep you like at home or whatever because they don't want that, right? They don't want that. Look at how they're talking about
Starting point is 00:22:50 how they need to fucking revitalize downtowns and how people need to get back to work. Like, look at all the stuff that's coming up from all these different sources that want this sort of thing to happen.
Starting point is 00:22:59 So, you know, it's not those two things. What the fuck could it possibly be? What's their motivation? You know, you gotta, you gotta think, what things. What the fuck could it possibly be? What's their motivation? You know, you've got to think, what is the thing that's causing them? Dude, is it power? They already have it.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Right. Yeah. And the motivation for whatever this motivation is, it is a motivation that is so powerful that it is literally uniting international enemies that are at such extremists from one another. To kill their populace to kill their own people to kill their own people but also clearly kills people right yeah like and it's killing us in these tiny if it was worth billions of people have gotten these vaccines yeah billions across the world we are not seeing millions of deaths so it's killing like fractions of a fraction
Starting point is 00:23:42 of a fraction of person if you believe it which is not even true that's what i mean it's killing like fractions of a fraction of a fraction of person. If you believe it, which is not even true. That's what I mean. It's not killing anybody. I don't say anybody. It's not killing any significant or statistically significant number of people. There are a handful of people that have had adverse reactions. That's true of any medication, any vaccine. So I want to get that out there.
Starting point is 00:23:58 So don't misspeak. But by and large, statistically, it is an insignificant cause of death for anybody. And we're just like, yeah, what's the purpose? Like, it's the fucking chemtrails. It's like you're flying around your fucking airplane spraying chemtrails. It's like, okay, well, they're spraying stuff on us. Okay, well, then when's it going to come to fruition?
Starting point is 00:24:17 When does it happen? Because y'all been bitching about this for fucking three decades and I haven't been fucking mind-controlled yet. But here's the thing, and this is another story, Tom. This is from Rasmussen. Died suddenly more than one in four think someone they know died from the
Starting point is 00:24:34 COVID-19 vaccines. And here's the thing. It doesn't have to be true. They just have to think it. It doesn't have to be real. They just think someone died from it. It might even be somebody who died. They might just be like, oh, I think I know somebody who died. And that's all it takes.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Yeah. And that's exactly true. And so, and I will answer my own question. When I say who benefits from this and like, why would they be? The point is like all of this stuff is being done by propagandists. Yeah. Right. So, and we know this because this data has already been sifted
Starting point is 00:25:06 through. So who is spreading this vaccine disinformation? It's by and large, and like amplifying it and then retweeting it and resharing it and all that. These are propagandists who are looking to sow the seeds of discontent from Russia and China, et cetera, into the United States, into other Western nations in order to cause strife, in order to create chaos. That is a huge part of what's going on. And we know this because again, that data has been poured through and that's not conjecture. And the other piece of that, the other reason why people do this is to make money, to scam you out of something, right? So another reason why people will lie to you about the COVID
Starting point is 00:25:43 vaccine is because they want to sell you something into to upend it, to supplement it. Right. Or not supplement it, but to like replace it. Do this instead. Do this thing. Do this instead. Look at the people we talked about less than two months ago. Those people who were like the demon sperm lady or whatever. America's frontline doctors. They fucking collected a shit ton of money. They immediately were like, go fund us.
Starting point is 00:26:05 And somebody did. And they're just like, cool, I'll just buy Bugatti. And they just bought a bunch of cars and shit. Yeah, man. And then they also, they were like, yeah. So it turns out the magic pill is ivermectin, which incidentally is very inexpensive for us to buy and resell. And so we'll create a fucking ivermectin shop, which they did.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And then they fucking sold people ivermectin. They created a bullshit solution, which could be purchased cheaply, resold on the secondary market through these prescriptions because they created a market for a thing. Fucking follow that. Hey, turns out everybody and all those doctors in France, they're wrong. All the doctors in Germany, they're wrong. The CDC, they're wrong. Oh, India's doctors, they're wrong. Russia's doctors,
Starting point is 00:26:48 it's not COVID. It is COVID, but only kind of, but sometimes, but we don't want to prevent getting it. What you do is take a horse dewormer. And oh, by the way,
Starting point is 00:26:58 I sell horse dewormer. By the way. I don't know if I mentioned that, but I happen to sell horse dewormer. If you want to make a little extra money, I'll sell it to you and then you could sell it to all your friends. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Yeah, there we go. And then we'll live in one big pyramid. How's that? Does that sound good? You know, it turns out you're an executive diamond club member of the Horstie Wormer MLM scheme. That's so great. But in any case, there's multiple stories about this that we saw this week. And I wanted to read a review we got recently, Tom. I wanted to read this. This came in, I don't know where it came from, maybe iTunes, I'm not sure. It was a four-star review, right? So the person listens to the show and likes the show, right?
Starting point is 00:27:35 So, but this is what they said. My favorite skeptics, except when it came to COVID. I enjoyed listening to these guys and I agree with them on almost everything. However, they disappointed me with their lack of skepticism and questioning in the later phase of COVID-19. They and other skeptics became MAGA blue or sounded like religious authoritarians and demonized anyone that asked questions. Their stance on take the shot and ask no questions because science says so was echoed by
Starting point is 00:28:00 many as they ignored or drowned out the traditional scientific method. Because these guys and some of my other favorite skeptics refused, and that's all in caps, to ask questions regarding COVID-19, I was temporarily forced to stomach and listen to shows like Ben Shapiro, Fox News, and McCullough Report. I don't even know what that is. And et cetera.
Starting point is 00:28:22 All of whom I disagree with 99% of the time, but at least they were asking questions about COVID and talking to doctors that questioned the vaccine and had alternative treatment methods. I just want to stop real quick. Thank you for listening to the show. Thank you for rating us. I disagree with this.
Starting point is 00:28:37 And the one thing I'm going to tell you right now that I disagree with the most is stop getting any information about COVID-19 vaccinations from news sites or from fucking podcasts. There is nothing, no information about your health you should ever get from a podcast, period. What you should do is you should listen to what those people say, and then you should go talk to your doctor about what it means. Don't ever get your medical information from a podcast. Always get it from real doctors, period, period.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Don't listen. I don't care what other podcast you wanted to seek out to confirm your own biases because that's what you did. I want you to recognize that that is bad information to go searching for because you're looking in the wrong place. Yeah, I agree with that completely. I also want to say this sentence here, there's stance on take the shot and ask no questions because science says so. That's not how science works.
Starting point is 00:29:40 It's just not how science is not a thing that says something. Science is not a thing that says something. Science is not a monolith. Science is a systematic way to understand the world and to gather information and to solve problems. That's what science is. Science is a methodology. The work for the COVID-19 shot had been done. That science was vetted, absolutely vetted. By the entire medical community. Of the world. Of the world, had an opportunity to look at that. This is not an American thing, right? It is of the world.
Starting point is 00:30:15 It is not like, in order for you to think that the scientific community didn't do the work, you had to not look for the work. The work is available. The work on mRNA vaccines to not look for the work. The work is available. The work on mRNA vaccines was not new when COVID, they didn't invent a technology when COVID came out. There is a huge amount of misinformation about that because it got pushed that, oh, these are these new vaccines with this new technology. It's new to you because you weren't following it. It was
Starting point is 00:30:41 new to me because I wasn't following it. But when you dig down beneath it, you're like, oh, actually this technology has been around. It's been in development for a decade plus. The reason they were able to use this for, right, is because we poured money into it. But it's also because all that foundational work had already been done. Also, that's not the only kind of vaccines that were produced. Very traditional vaccines. I got the traditional ones. The Johnson & Johnson vaccine, the Novavax vaccine, the Sputnik 2 vaccine, the vaccine that was originally developed in China. Those were not mRNA vaccines. The point is that everybody went to vaccine because that's how you prevent illness. The last thing that's said in here, I really need to poke at this. At least
Starting point is 00:31:21 they were asking questions, talking to doctors that questioned the vaccine and had alternative treatment methods. That is two problems here that are big and important. When something like COVID happens or the measles happens or polio, or you do not want to go to treatment, you want to go to prevention. You want to not get sick. The point is to not get sick. The best way to make sure that you don't suffer the ill effects of an illness is to not have that illness. That's the best way. It's not to get treated after you've already got it. That is never better than not getting it.
Starting point is 00:31:54 It's just, it is always better. Like, what's the better thing? Oh, I didn't get sick versus I got sick and I got better. Yeah. You're better off just not getting sick. There's never a time where getting sick was the better thing for your body to do. Sure. And if there's an alternative treatment method, if science vets it out, it's no longer an alternative. Yeah. That's the thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:15 If science vets it, it's not an alternative treatment. It's just a treatment. What is it? Willow bark or something like that? It's aspirin. It's like, that's been vetted. It's called aspirin and we use it for a reason. I'm sure it started as an alternative treatment and then it got vetted and now it's not anymore. And it gets, it gets vetted. It gets, it gets synthesized. It gets dosed properly. The thing is like, if there was something that worked, we would do the, we'd run it through the scientific method. Just do the thing that works. Everybody wants to do the thing that works. That's why when people were saying, let's treat it with ivermectin or let's treat it with hydroxychloroquine, those things didn't work, period.
Starting point is 00:32:53 They just didn't work. What worked was when we treated it with antivirals. That worked. And steroids. Steroids worked. And that's what got used in the hospitals. That's what got used, that Provaxilid or whatever. That's what people used because it worked and because it was vetted and because many, many, many, many, many scientists, a consensus of people looked at it and said, this is good medicine. And it wasn't just our country
Starting point is 00:33:19 and it wasn't just one guy. It was a bunch of people who did that. And I think, you know, like, I don't want to sound like I'm coming down. And I think, you know, like, like, I don't want to sound like I'm coming down too hard on somebody because I recognize like, like we live in a world where it's hard to understand what true things are. That's just, that's just the truth. That's just, it's hard. It's, it's taxing. It takes a lot of effort. And sometimes you feel like someone maybe should be, you know, saying things that you want them to hear. You want to hear, right?
Starting point is 00:33:45 That's a possibility. But you also got to recognize that this stuff, the motivations behind this didn't make any sense. And there's just, it's just such an overwhelming consensus of people who are qualified to make these decisions, made these decisions. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Yeah. And again, it is also important to recognize that not in one place, but across systems that do not work nicely together. It's across the globe, man. And that's real important. How would a conspiracy work
Starting point is 00:34:15 that has to involve, you know, France and Germany and Sweden and Switzerland and Norway and America and China and Russia? How would that, I mean, just fucking
Starting point is 00:34:23 think about that. And I want to just end this little segment, Tom, with this piece here. This is from CBC. I want to see if we can get this guy on the show. This is such a great little tiny bit of an interview. Misinformation is killing people. Q and A with misinformation expert, Timothy Cofield. And this is so good. What I loved about this is there's a statement he makes where he says, you know, we don't have to debunk. We need to pre-bunk. He's like, we need to lay the groundwork.
Starting point is 00:34:55 It always, and I'm expanding on what he's saying here, but it always feels like when you're a skeptic, when you're a person who's trying to debunk things, you're always on your back foot. You're always reactionary. You're always waiting for something to happen. But if you can lay the groundwork ahead of time, they're the ones who have to react to it.
Starting point is 00:35:14 So getting the real information out there and also letting people know that there will be information that is counter to this, that is going to try to mislead them because it's false. You know, I read that and I thought the same thing. And I thought one of the things that made the COVID situation so absolutely rife and ripe for this kind of activity is that it happened so very quickly. And there is, I think, a sense, and it's a wrong sense, that science isn't sloppy.
Starting point is 00:35:43 But science is sloppy. It science is sloppy. And like Carl Sagan points this out a lot in Demon Hunter World. So if you're a fan of that book, remember that a lot of what Sagan talks about, a lot of what we have to realize about science is that it has built-in error correction machinery in it because errors are a part of the learning process. And so when COVID was happening, there were errors, there were missteps, there were miscommunications, there were mistakes. It was an evolving situation. And for those who understood ahead of time that science that like, oh, this is going
Starting point is 00:36:16 to get ugly because there's going to be a lot of work that has to be done very quickly. There's going to be crosstalk. There's going to be miscommunication. There's going to be studies. You should know this ahead of time. There's going to be studies that come out that are later debunked by bigger, larger, better studies that have better information and are better vetted. That is all science. That sloppiness is okay. That sloppiness though, the problem is that for lay people in all the rest of our lives,
Starting point is 00:36:46 that happens behind the scenes. We're not exposed to it. It's invisible. You don't see how they cut the meat at the meat market. You just get the final cut of meat. You just buy sausage, man. I don't see how they made the sausage. So I think one of the horrible things about COVID is that we were all in real time watching the sausage get made and we didn't understand how ahead of time sloppy that was going to be. But people like you and I, we talked about it. Like, this is going to be bad because we know that this system, this process,
Starting point is 00:37:15 this is an ugly process where we have to like try something out and see if it works. And sometimes it works. And sometimes we're not sure. And we have to rerun the data. We have to rerun the experiment with a larger subject group. And this is all part of that learning process. But when it's mission, when it's life critical, it's economically critical, it's societally critical, watching that happen resulted in tragedy of its own.
Starting point is 00:37:39 And the tragedy was that misinformation really took root in a way that I don't think it had taken root before. And it has like a fucking stranglehold on people's minds. And it's built this sort of like insidious level of distrust in like expertise. Sure, sure. You know, the media is to blame too for some of this because, and you know, in part we are to blame because we were looking for it, but the media is always trying to get out the very next story on what's working, what worked. And when studies come out, we've seen this with plenty of things, whether it's a study about, you know, it could be a study about anything. It could be an announcement about something like an invention of some kind or whatever. The news sometimes will cover it in a way that really glorifies it.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And it turns out to be a nothing. Yeah, man. And the problem is, is that people were hungry for information. So I know that I was during the time of COVID, especially when we had no idea. Like you go to March, 2020, April, 2020. Yeah. I was on every message board I could find every single day for, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:56 I'd check it four or five times a day just to see if there was any new developments because I knew people were working on it. And the news was doing the same thing. And then they were announcing things that, you know, they're like, oh, maybe this is the, oh, maybe this is, maybe this.
Starting point is 00:39:09 And some stuff missed. They were throwing a lot of spaghetti against the wall. And some of it fell down. Yeah, man. And that's a real problem. That's a real problem with a news cycle that has to produce results all the time. And it's a crisis.
Starting point is 00:39:22 So they, of course, are gonna, I mean, it's one of the reasons why we stopped covering it. Because we stopped covering any of it, any real major news for a while, because it was just so depressing. And everywhere you went, it wasn't like you couldn't be informed about COVID-19. Yeah. Well, and also I remember going in the early days, I remember talking to Cecil, and he'd be like, hey, have you heard this? And I'd be like, no. And I'd be like, have you heard this? No.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Because depending on what sources you're looking at, you're getting rapidly developing and new information and conflicting information. And that was, the thing is that that was always to be expected. It should have been expected. We all should have learned from this that like that kind of chaos is part of seeing that sausage get made.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Sure. You know, the other thing, and to your point, and it's a really good point, Cecil, is that media is absolutely responsible
Starting point is 00:40:12 for a big part of this because there is not a lot of good science reporters out there. There are not enough good science. There are a lot of- Defunding those media companies.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Yeah, man. Yeah. We have a lack of educated science reporters who know how- What we have is a bunch of people who went to journalism school. You're right, man. We have a lack of educated science reporters who know... What we have is a bunch of people who went to journalism school. You're right. They don't know how to read a fucking scientific paper.
Starting point is 00:40:32 They don't know how to read a scientific study. They don't know how to look and say, yeah, this was... Looks like this was actually a well-organized... These guys are relying on press releases, abstracts. These are journalism students, man. That's what they are. And they're getting paid to produce material. I need copy by nine, I need copy by eight, I need copy by seven,
Starting point is 00:40:53 constantly pushing that deadline forward. There is a lack of quality science-based journalism in this country. We are not doing a good job of that. We are not educating people properly because of it. And we are pushing out more material than ever that is of a lower quality than ever before. smeg and the rest of their evil reich something must be done to stop them because serf nazis must die see so this story comes from cnn former pope benedict the 16th the quitter pope dies in the vatican monastery age 95 he quit at 95 he's a double quitter quitter he's a double quitter first pope in 600 years to become infallible and then decide he didn't want it he wanted he wanted to fucking play the field i don't want to i don't want a
Starting point is 00:42:02 big commitment cop this is the first pope that swiped left. I only dedicated my whole life to this. But I don't know. I want to check out my options. I'm going to go on Grindr. See what's going on. Yeah, man. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:42:18 He's like, like, the thing is, is this guy was a genuine piece of shit. He was. This guy was an absolute and genuine piece of shit. He was. This guy was an absolute and genuine piece of shit. He was involved in coverups. He was the pontiff when a bunch of shit blew up. And in this article, they talk about his reaction to some of this. I remember covering this.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And it's basically blame the victim. It's the reason why kids got raped in our church is because of the sexual revolution. It's your fault. We raped you. You're a disgusting fucking person. Good riddance, Pope Palpatine. So long. Nobody fucking cares. I mean, granted, okay,
Starting point is 00:42:58 there's a lot of people who care, but nobody, nobody who's not like, like fucking starry-eyed about God or whatever gives a fuck because you were a piece of shit. He was a horrible fuck. You were a piece of shit. To have that much power and influence and to wield it the way that he did for the fucking 11 and a half minutes. That he fucking could bear the burden of wearing the big hat.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Live that big Pope Mason swinging around. You know, fuck this. I'm so fucking glad he's dead. Couldn't happen to a nicer fucking guy. You know, I remember covering that story where he laid the blame for the sexual rape of children on the immorality of the sexual 60s. And you're like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:43:42 What, like, literally, there is nothing, there is no world of decadence and hedonism which causes anyone to rape children. That's not how any of that works. Okay, groomer. Right. Yeah, fuck you. Look, like there is a world of decadence and hedonism
Starting point is 00:43:58 which causes consensual adults to engage in consensual sex. Yeah. Sure, absolutely. But as soon as you start raping people and specifically raping children, that has nothing to do with decadence and hedonism. That just means that you're a fucking monster who endorses the literally endorses the rape of children. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:17 And in some ways you're opportunistic, right? Right. You're like, you're like, well, I mean, they're out there fucking like crazy. Right. Maybe I could fuck one of these kids right seriously like that's disgusting and it's grotesque and the fact that you that was what you came up with i am so fucking blown away by every single one of these fucking degenerates who says they they're they've got to go through their list of fuck, their weird fucking flow chart of blame instead of just getting to a part that says, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I'm sorry for my church. I'm sorry for this. I'm sorry this happened. This shouldn't happen. Like, how fucking hard is it to say I'm sorry, man? Like, it's not fucking, like, it is hard, right? But it's the right thing to do.
Starting point is 00:45:01 But also, isn't asking for forgiveness built into the mechanism? Yeah, it's like, it's your thing, man. But also, isn't asking for forgiveness built into the mechanism? Yeah, it's like it's your thing, man. You love getting on your knees and begging for forgiveness. Yeah. That's your whole thing. Your whole thing is I can do all the fuck ups I want as long as I got the big weepy sorry. I get a two over.
Starting point is 00:45:18 That's it. Yeah, all I got to do is say, I'm real sorry. I didn't mean it. And then you get a fucking two over, man. Yeah, you got a fucking, here's your little like Rubik's cube to pray on-wee. I mean it. And then you get a fucking do-over, man. Yeah, you got a fucking, here's your little like Rubik's Cube to pray on or whatever. And that's it. Rubik's Cube.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Whatever. I forgot what it was called. It's a Rubik's Cube now. It's awesome. I'm so glad I just got a big Rubik's Cube. It's awesome. You have to pray until you solve the Rubik's Cube. You're like, there's like some fucking kid
Starting point is 00:45:42 who's like done in like three seconds. It's only two colors, wine and communion. Wait for color. So you're just like're like, there's like some fucking kid who's like, done in like three seconds. It's only two colors, wine and communion weights of color. So you're just like, man, there's only two colors on this. It's so easy.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Yeah, fuck that guy forever. Fuck him forever. When guys like this die, it almost makes me wish there was a hell. Yeah, right? You know? How is he?
Starting point is 00:46:00 Under house arrest, as you instructed. He's be quiet. This is a very upsetting story. It comes from Business Insider. Holy shit. General Mark Milley said there were talks about court-martialing former military officers who wrote very critical op-eds of Trump.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Yeah, and I guess a couple of generals. Yeah. When he fucking basically sent the army out after the protesters, he sent the army out. He was kidnapping people in one of these, we found out later he was kidnapping people. Actually we knew at the time, but then it was confirmed later that they were, that the Homeland Security was kidnapping and people, and then they were beating people. The National Guard was beating, they're just beating people. Right. Yeah. And so a bunch of these generals, several of them wrote op-eds,
Starting point is 00:46:47 some of them really scathing, where they're just like, this isn't the use of the military. What the fuck is wrong with you? And he's like, Trump's like, I want you to get them. These are retired generals. I want you to reinstate them and then court-martial them.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Yeah, insane. Yeah, they were talking about returning General John Allen to active duty and then court martial i thought like don't you is that a thing can't you what if i was in the army could they just be like you're tag you're in again like what the fuck is that i thought once you were out of the army you were out of the army they couldn't just like can't just be like hey man hey we want you to be in trouble different hey what what the What? What the fuck? What are you talking about? I will say, though, like, the fucking QAnon people have got to be eating this shit up.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Oh, yeah. Well, the QAnon people eat everything. Well, they thought about this. Do you remember? This was a big deal. The court-martialing thing was a big deal with them. They were saying that the military was going to hold tribunals and execute people. Do you remember this?
Starting point is 00:47:41 They said they were holding tribunals. Well, yeah, I know, but like— Yeah, they were secretly. Yeah, I guess you're right. But what I mean to say is, like, this has They said they were holding tribunals. Well, yeah, I know, but- Yeah, they were secretly. I guess you're right. But what I mean to say is like, this has got to really light a fire under them. And I imagine QAnon people right now are probably going a little crazy over this
Starting point is 00:47:53 because if a general is saying the president was involved in wanting to get people reinstated so that he can court-martial them, that to them is a hit. Right. Even if it's not a hit, it's still a hit to them.
Starting point is 00:48:05 It is. It is because the QAnon people will just decide heart-mushel them, that to them is a hit. Right. Even if it's not a hit, it's still a hit to them. It is. It is because the QAnon people will just decide not only that that is what they wanted to have happen, they'll decide that that did happen already. Yeah. They'll just say, see, this is proof that the thing that we made up that was happening did happen because he said he wanted it to happen, which means that it was happening. And you're just like, okay, whatever, man. It didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Like you were fucking insane. It's so, mark milley was saying you know well we i don't want to politicize the military and so that's why that's why i wanted to court-martial people for expressing their political beliefs and you're like that's politicizing that is politicizing look i what the what are you talking about? What is even happening? These are retired people. There are things. He hasn't been in office in two years. I know, man.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And we're still finding out more and more things where you just have to pick your job. You're just like, what? He did what now? He did who did what? How the what now? I know. And you can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:49:04 And Tom, this is what we've heard. Yeah. What didn't we hear? What didn't we hear? Because I mean, I don't know what I don't know, but I would venture to guess that if these are the things that were leaked, is there anything that wasn't leaked?
Starting point is 00:49:21 And was it so damning that no one thought to leak it? Because it was, because they, you know, one of the things that protects him is because some of these people were serious people. And so they were part of this administration
Starting point is 00:49:35 and they don't want to look like a fucking bozo for having somebody say, hey, I want you to shoot this guy in the head. And he'd be like, no, I'm not going to shoot that guy. Get out, go to your office.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Go eat your cookies and go to your office. Remember Trump wanted to shoot protesters in the legs? Sure, he wanted to shoot them. Yeah. He wanted to shoot people in the legs. Can't we just shoot them in the legs? What? But I think the serious people that are in his administration
Starting point is 00:49:57 probably are harboring secrets that are way worse than this because they don't want to be embarrassed by it. Oh, I absolutely agree that that is very likely. And what is insane is this motherfucker's running again. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's got a single vote
Starting point is 00:50:12 for Speaker of the House today. I know. A single vote. I think Matt Gaetz did it. One person gave him a Speaker of the House vote. Speaker of the House? How could he be
Starting point is 00:50:19 Speaker of the House? He's not in Congress. I don't think you have to be. Are you serious? I don't think so. I could be. Are you serious? I don't think so. I could be Speaker of the House. I don't think so. Have a law talking guy look into it. I want to be Speaker of the House. You guys. Find a law talker to find out about it. But I thought I read or heard, this is one of those I thought I heard, you know, but it's a low stake, so it
Starting point is 00:50:39 doesn't matter. But it's, I thought I heard that you don't have to be. And that a way to like, really get one over on the Dems would be to have him be the Speaker of the House. Because you could be the Speaker and not be. But I could be mistaken. Maybe it was a false thing. And I had heard, and I was actually worried that he was going to, but I thought he was going to run for Congress
Starting point is 00:50:59 in order to do that. Because if he ran for Congress, he'd win his district. If Trump, and this is a real thing that scares me. If he, if Trump runs for Congress in Florida, he would win his district for sure in fucking garbage Mar-a-Lago land. If he ran for governor, that would be amazing. Please run for governor. Please just take the fucking fiefdom of Florida and fucking fight over the fucking dirtiest bathrooms in America. Don't you just want to take a giant cartoon saw and just saw like, you know what I mean? I guess you're going to say take a giant cartoon dump.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Someone already did, Tom. I just want to saw Florida right off of the United States and then push it out to sea. Just be like, we don't need it. That's trash. The Constitution does not explicitly state that the Speaker must be an incumbent member of the House. It is permissible for the representatives to vote for someone who is not a member of the House at that time.
Starting point is 00:51:56 And non-members have received a few votes in various elections over the past several years. Very interesting. So I did find a law-talking guy. His name is Wikipedia. It is said that he and his foreign allies are raising an army that will outnumber your own.
Starting point is 00:52:18 This story is a relatively long article from Mother Jones. Hate leader Nick Fuentes is recruiting incels. And said he was an incel. And said he was an incel. You're absolutely right. He said he was an incel. He said he's never had sex. He said that he's too busy
Starting point is 00:52:34 being a hate monger. Genuinely. He pretty much said that. Tom, I cannot believe for the life of me that this guy gets views. He created his own site because he's got kicked off of every other goddamn site in the world
Starting point is 00:52:48 because he's a disgusting person. But he created his own site that literally says out loud, we are trying to promote white people, not white guys, not women, Jews, black people, or whatever. And we're openly anti-Semitic, openly anti-black. Anti-black, anti-woman, anti-Semitic. Yeah. He's like, those are,
Starting point is 00:53:09 it's not a paraphrase. No. It's not a paraphrase. Chicago Nazi. Literally. Literally an Illinois Nazi. This is an Illinois Nazi. And he's wildly successful
Starting point is 00:53:18 and he is going after what I thought was really interesting about this article. There are a couple of things I thought were really interesting. One, you know, like we hear about white supremacy. And one of the phrases that was in this article, I think it's just great,
Starting point is 00:53:30 is that there is a male supremacy movement. Yeah, you're right. And that is something we've talked around, but I never had the verbiage for it. I think it's a great term. I think there is absolutely a, and the manosphere is a great example of that. Perfect, a great example.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Great example, yeah. There's this sort of like manosphere is a great example of that. Perfect, great example. Great example, yeah. There's this sort of like manosphere industrial complex that is sort of building steam. Yeah. And it is creating this male superiority movement in America, which is poison.
Starting point is 00:53:58 And it seeks to weaponize disaffected white youth, white male youth, not white youth, white male youth. And it seeks to collect them, to amplify their grievances, and then to sort of mobilize and weaponize those people. And Nick Fuentes has essentially said that is exactly what we're doing. Yes, yes. Donald Trump has also said, that is, Steve Bannon, and from this article, yes. Donald Trump has also said, that is, Steve Bannon,
Starting point is 00:54:27 and from this article, Steve Bannon is quoted as saying, look, and Cambridge Analytica found that they were literally targeting this exact demographic. Yeah, this demographic. So this is not conspiracy level shit. There is a concerted
Starting point is 00:54:39 and systematic attempt to radicalize angry white men against women in violent ways, in absolutely violent, dehumanizing, cruel ways in order for them to seize control of power using Congress. Nick Fuentes openly and unabashedly is like, look, look at what I've accomplished. I am moving this shit into the mainstream. The thing is, there's no dog whistles with Nick Fuentes. He's saying it as clearly as I am.
Starting point is 00:55:11 And it's resonating with people. How poisonous is that? That it is resonating just that plain. And it's pulling the Overton window way farther. Way farther. Way farther than anyone should feel even remotely comfortable about. And he makes reference to in this article, because they're talking about his incel qualities, right? He makes reference to several times where in the past there have been public beatings of
Starting point is 00:55:39 women by say celebrities. And he laughs. He's giddy with the fact that a woman got hurt. A woman got hit. This is a disgusting piece of shit. This guy is a gross piece of shit. And he gets on his live stream and streams for three, four hours a night and says abominable shit and is an awful person and wants to see people hurt. And not just people, marginalized groups. He wants them to be hurt. And he wants to, and so, but somehow this guy is able, it's so embarrassing that he gets to a place
Starting point is 00:56:19 where people like Marjorie Taylor Greene are coming to his conference. Oh, absolutely. Where people like Trump are sitting at the same table with him. Where he's on Alex Jones across from Kanye laughing when Kanye's saying Hitler was cool. Yeah, man. This is a guy who has guests on his show that not just joke, but openly say that they are promoters of rape. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:41 That they support the rape of women. Yeah, these people are gross, man. These, I mean, and I really, the last several years, and I think that this is a true statement, I think women have never been less safe than they are at this time in this country. There is the manosphere, the Andrew Tate, the male superiority movement that is taking hold, the presidency being given to a guy who said, when you're famous, you can just grab women by the pussy. Women have never been less safe than they are now. There is a war on women, and this guy is openly waging it. I think for a long time,
Starting point is 00:57:21 the war on women, which has always existed, was at least losing on the branding front. Yeah. You know, the optics on it weren't good. They were bad. They were bad for a while. The reality is now these guys have said, look, there's a lot of money to be made in hurting women. And they revel in it. They revel in it.
Starting point is 00:57:40 They revel in it. You're right. And they rake the money in. And they are unabashedly misogynist, unabashedly haters of women, violent people towards women, unabashedly. And you're just like, you're like, what the fuck is happening? Like this, if this happened to any other group this bad, there would be an absolute outroar. There would be an outroar of how people are, people would be fucking going crazy
Starting point is 00:58:08 if this happened to another marginalized group. Absolutely. But it's happening to women. And it's not that people are silent, but the fact is, is that it's not being stopped. And then there's people here who, you know, this tunes up, this kind of speech, we've seen it,
Starting point is 00:58:24 it tunes people up to do things and write crazy manifestos and drive their car into people and shoot people and hurt people. It causes people to react. It makes them, it basically, you're just feeding them a bunch of poison until they explode. You feed them more and more and more and more toxicity until they fucking blow up. And these guys that are making so much money off of this, they're making so much money off this, you know, the Hustler University. And, you know, they're just trying to make all kinds of money off of this toxicity. And it's disgusting. And it's a bunch of disaffected dudes that are funding this.
Starting point is 00:59:11 It absolutely is. And these guys like the Nick Fuenteses, they understand that if they can tap into the lonely and isolated men, that they can then band those lonely, isolated men together. And they can turn that loneliness and that isolation not into, hey, look, you guys are lonely. You would like to have female companionship. You'd like to have intimacy. You'd like to hear some tools on how to connect with other people. They're not doing any of that. What they're doing is saying, no, you are owed these things.
Starting point is 00:59:40 These are not real people. These are femoids, I think they're calling them, or foids. They create an entire lexicon. Yeah, like a whole name, a whole brand new slur that they made up. They make up and they turn all of that into anger and misogyny. And they turn this thing called, this horrible thing that was the incel community, they turn this into this even more raging inferno of rampant violence and rampant misogyny. And it was always rooted in misogyny. Like, don't get me wrong, but now the misogyny is not a byproduct of the loneliness. The misogyny is the goal, right? The misogyny is what these guys like Nick Fuentes are trying to really, really like heighten and weaponize and use and then recruit into. There is a radicalization of this idea of male superiority and women being less
Starting point is 01:00:36 than human. And tied into all of that is racism. So they're trying to create this tyranny of the minority yeah and and where they can oppress everybody else with this tiny subset of white patriarchy it's the worst yeah this is seriously the worst in minecraft this guy needs to fucking die i'll say this in minecraft someone needs to go to his server and unplug his fucking server. I want to say this to the people who just showed up
Starting point is 01:01:09 because we had a manosphere tag or whatever. You're right. We had low testosterone. There's nothing you can do. We're just low testosterone and we're cocks or something.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I don't know. I just want some soy milk. I want some soy milk. I want some soy milk. And I'm begging for women to have sex with me by talking about them or something. I don't know. Whatever you I'm begging for women to have sex with me by talking about them or something.
Starting point is 01:01:25 I don't know. Whatever you wrote down there is true. Sure. Whatever your buzzwords are that somebody else fed you. Whatever your buzzwords this week are. Yeah. Here, let me get them for you.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Simp cock or whatever nonsense that you don't believe either. Shit, you didn't make it. You're not clever enough to have even come up with a single moment of your own boring insult. You didn't even make up your own insult. You borrowed it from somebody who you pay $50 a month to.
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Starting point is 01:05:54 They've been listening a long time. A very long time. That's unreal. We got a message, and this is from Shannon. And Shannon says, I just wanted to thank you guys to let you know that last week's show had an impact. Tom and I both talked about not feeling bad about leaving your family. If they're shitty to you, if they're bad people and they're hurting you,
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Starting point is 01:06:21 It's one of those things that you're just like, you know, you have to hear somebody say it and then you kind of go, oh shit, you're right. And so, yeah, man, these are how, this is how you morally interact with the world. Right. And so it's important. And they said that they struggle every year. Shannon said they struggle every year. And in fact, they just had a conversation with their partner, you know, before they listened to the show that they were very much dreading the holidays. And then they said, you know, um, you know, now they've, we've sort of helped them articulate a letting go process. So I think that's great. And, and, you know, like I say, every once in a while
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Starting point is 01:07:28 Ian has developed an entire world. He has, man. He has, absolutely. Tom, last week we talked about English Breakfast on the stream and how much we hate it. And Joel sent in a Reddit link. And this Reddit link is the best. It shows an English Breakfast
Starting point is 01:07:41 in one of those shitty tins, like takeaway tins. And it's got sausage that looks terrible, a piece of really terrible bacon, runny sunny side up eggs. I think
Starting point is 01:07:55 it looks like they meant to do over easy, but they failed. And then it looks like two chicken nuggets. I don't even know. Are those supposed to be hash browns? And then beans on the side. Dude, I don't know. And random mushrooms to be hash browns? And then beans on the side. Dude, I don't know. And then random mushrooms. And then the person who commented said, did you cook this with sunlight?
Starting point is 01:08:12 It's like you left it. That's what he left it outside. It looks like dog scratch. It seriously looks like it was never near anything warm. That's what it looks like. It looks like you cooked it with sunlight in the UK. Yeah, right. So next week, we are not live streaming,
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