Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 673: Hamburder Time

Episode Date: February 27, 2023

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Starting point is 00:01:23 It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no welcome at. This is episode 673 of Cognitive Distance. And Cecil, I was going to say, and it's been one week since our last train derailment, but I would be wrong. There was actually another train derailment in the Midwest, like yesterday.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Wow. Yesterday. Wow. Because as you pointed out, trains be fucking derailing. They just fall off the tracks all the time. We need a better system to keep trains on the tracks. It's like your friend who had that really complex model in his house with the trains to fall over. And then the cat once in a while would just knock them the fuck off the track.
Starting point is 00:02:02 We are like that. They just fall the fuck off the track. We are like that. They just fall the fuck off the tracks all the time. I wanted to talk when we get started, you know, about Trump visiting Ohio. So Trump flew out to Ohio this last week. I wasn't able to confirm it, but I thought that Biden wanted to go and the governor told him not to. Like the governor said, don't show up. And then Trump shows up and of course the governor's him not to. Like the governor said, don't show up. And then Trump shows up. And of course the governor's Republican. So he's like, hey, that's great.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Let's have him come over. Which real quick, it would be entirely consistent with other disaster events for the president to be told, don't come here. Don't come here while we're busy. That's entirely, we're super busy. It's a distraction and it's a drain on resources, local resources.
Starting point is 00:02:45 And so he showed up with a couple crates of Goya beans, handed out a couple cans of beans, Tom. Some water, bought some first responders there, some Mickey D's, some hamburgers. Some hamburgers.
Starting point is 00:02:58 He bought some hamburgers for some people. And I don't want to shit on somebody who's giving stuff away, right? Like I feel like, you know, I mean, well, I think it's like, it's just as good as giving them nothing in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 00:03:09 It's at least, you know, and it's 100% a photo op. I get that. It's 100%. Like Trump is not never given anything out of the goodness of his heart. You can look back throughout his entire history. He's never done that.
Starting point is 00:03:23 But I want to just talk about one specific piece. Trump is in fucking Ohio and he's getting toured around and whatnot. And the reason why you would want to do this with a president is so that you could say to them, hello, sir, you have the entire United States Treasury and the power of the government and all this stuff. You can fix some of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:48 You can declare emergencies. You can, you know, send funds here. You can be a fucking bell. You can do stuff. What? It's not like a tour, right? Like what can Trump do for them? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:04:01 He can't do anything for them. He brought him a case of beans and that was the extent of his help was he handed out cans of beans okay uh i have several points to make and i don't know why i don't know how you clean up vinyl chloride with beans i don't know that that's the i mean this is like a weird tiktok challenge that we're doing here cecil this is like this is at the heart of my question is were they perhaps were they magic beans did he did he trade a cow for them he's trading cows was he right before he gets on the plane he actually had a bunch of cows then he met a guy on the road on the way to the plane and he ends up it's a whole
Starting point is 00:04:39 thing it's a whole it's a story it's a whole it's a story yeah thank you like first of all the fuck did these guys need? Like, the train derailment did not cause a terrible lack of beans. Beans? Like, there wasn't... I get the water, right? I get the water.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Water makes sense. Water makes sense. The water makes sense. Okay, hey, it's possible. Cans of beans. Cans of what the fuck is with the beans? Yeah. Like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:05:00 I mean, a can of wet wipes is better. Thank you. Like, here we are in a town that has been polluted with poison gas, and we're going to add beans to that problem? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Everybody's pulling the ripcord all day. Just pulling the ripcord.
Starting point is 00:05:18 There's just some guy, his finger is sore. Oh, God. Everybody keeps pulling. Oh, Jesus. Boy, Jesus. It's killing me. They all line up on a ridge and fart the cloud away, the toxic cloud away. What the fuck? This feels no different to me than when the fucking Bible thumpers show up to a tragedy
Starting point is 00:05:38 with cases of water. Yeah. And then they're like, oh, hey, here's a Bible. Here's some water. Join our church. Here's some water. He was handing out hats. It's the some water. He was handing out hats. It's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:05:46 He was handing out hats. The fucking water that he was handing out was branded with the goddamn Trump logo because he took it from his hotel stock. Yeah. And Cecil, the only question is how much were his minibar fees? A lot. They had to be brutal. They're a lot. He made each maid go to each room and, like—
Starting point is 00:06:07 Gather up all the bottles. I need you to clear out the mini bar. Yeah, but it's so funny because you're just like— Like, everybody's talking. And on Twitter, it was a buzz, all these pictures. Because right now, on Twitter, if you go on Twitter, it's just far-right people as far as the eye can see. Who else would use it anymore?
Starting point is 00:06:23 It's insane. And so I scrolled through the other day and there was just tons of these pictures, which are photo ops of him walking around. And they're all like, that's a real leader. And I'm thinking he doesn't have any power anymore. Like that's not a leader. He can't do anything.
Starting point is 00:06:37 It's not like he's there saying, I will pledge my money to fix this. Or I will sit down with the head of Norfolk Southern and I will have a conversation and I will fix this. He's not doing any, he just, he's literally just standing there and a worker's like, that's where it crashed. And he's like, yep.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Looks like a fucking mess. Hamburger time. And then he goes, it's a hamburger. Like, I don't get it. Like, I just don't get it. Like, they're falling all over themselves. And it's what we talked about before. Do you remember when they would do these fucking big rallies
Starting point is 00:07:12 and then they would talk about how nobody came to Biden's rally and they would talk about everybody came to Trump's rally and you're like, yeah, but I don't care about Biden. Right. Like, you don't understand. I don't care about him. He's literally an interchangeable politician. They can take him out, unplug him. He's literally an interchangeable politician. They can take him out, unplug him,
Starting point is 00:07:26 and plug in another politician, and I wouldn't notice or care. It's just that there is a cult of personality that follows that man around. And when he shows up at places, it's a big deal. Yep. Well, also, I fully support Joe Biden. I do.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I was happy to vote for him. I am a vote blue guy. I would not go to a political rally. I've never gone to one. I will never go to one. Yeah. That's not something I do. I think that's a weird, mostly right-wing thing to do.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Yeah, I think so, too. So you're like, well, you didn't go to my NASCAR race. And I'm like, yeah, I don't go to NASCAR. It doesn't mean that when I, it doesn't mean I bicycle to work. I get in a car and I drive to work. Like it's a weird right-wing ritual to go to these like rallies because the, the, the Trump mega world goes to these rallies and they're basically like a mega church. They behave like a fucking congregation with its fucking pastor proselytizing at the center. That's the feel and the fit and the finish of the whole fucking thing. So yeah, I don't go to those things because I think those things are fucking weird. And I don't go to weird
Starting point is 00:08:36 culty shit because I'm not a fucking weird cultist. I did want to correct something we talked about last week. Yeah. We had talked about how the deregulation would have prevented this. Like, if they didn't deregulate, this would have been prevented. And I want to read from PolitiFact. There was a claim that Obama imposed stricter rules on trains carrying toxins. Trump killed them. It's mostly true. But the last bullet is very important here. It says,
Starting point is 00:09:08 even if this safety rule had been in effect, it would not have applied to the Norfolk Southern train that derailed an East Palace. I want to say Palestine, but it's Palestine. Yeah, it's pronounced Palestine. Palestine, Ohio. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I've been pronouncing it Palestine the whole time. Because it was not categorized as a high hazard cargo train. So I know that we're splitting hairs here when we talk about that sort of thing. Part of me says, just fucking figure out what's a high hazard train. If it can like kill all the wildlife in a hundred mile area, maybe that's a high hazard train.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I don't know anything about trains, but my thought would be, yeah, make it, you know, if it could kill like a,
Starting point is 00:09:51 a small village of people, thank you. Then that's a, that's a high hazard. Let's just like, can we agree? Can we just agree on that? Cause we'll see.
Starting point is 00:09:59 What is the rubric then for high hazard train? If, if when the train crashes and it is a goddamn disaster and you have to evacuate the whole town and then you have to like open the fucking uh-oh gate to let all the fucking vinyl chloride into the air so it doesn't explode and the vinyl chloride degrades into phosgene gas which is a fucking chemical death agent like that we used in World War I. And that's not high hazard. That's a high bar for high hazard.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I can't really figure out. What is it to be full of nuclear warheads? Like, oh, it's all, you know, we actually have a train full of just nitroglycerin. It's just, you know, it's nitroglycerin in one tank, Roadrunners in another,
Starting point is 00:10:42 and coyotes in the third. And I like the shake and not stirred. Right? Yeah, man.oyotes in the third. And I like it shaking, not stirred. Right? Yeah, man. What is in these things? Oh, that's just Acme brand rockets. It's just full of Acme brand rockets. This one's anvils.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Weird. Crazy. What does it have to be full of? This one's just those chalk outline, the little chalk dotted line that you have to follow. Yeah, no, but in any case, I did want to correct it because we said it wouldn't have fixed, it would have fixed it if they didn't. And that's not true. No.
Starting point is 00:11:09 It wouldn't have fixed it, but that's just because we have our own head up our ass when it comes to whether or not something is fucking a danger to America. I mean, like, the reason why they do this is to classify it
Starting point is 00:11:22 so they don't have to follow those regulations. Exactly, yeah. I mean, like, everybody sees that. why they do this is to classify it so they don't have to follow those regulations. Exactly. I mean, like, everybody sees that. It's not like they're hiding something that's so secretive. We all see it.
Starting point is 00:11:34 We all know what you're doing. You're making it so that certain trains can have less regulation on them so they cost less to man and cost less to drive and cost less to maintain and cost less to drive and cost less to maintain and cost less to outfit. That's why you do it. You don't do it because it's not like a mistake. It's fucking
Starting point is 00:11:53 purposeful. They purposefully did this. And I can't remember where I read it or listened to it. So take this a little bit of a grain of salt. But I did read or listen to something this week that said that the reason this wasn't a high hazard train is because it's based on how many of or what percentage of the cars are full of evil. But think about the ginormous trains that you see. I know, man. They could stretch. You can get stuck behind a train for 15, 20 minutes. They can stretch for miles and miles and miles. So, you know, if you're deciding that a train is a high-hazard train based on the percentage
Starting point is 00:12:30 of the cars full of evil, that's a terrible way. You know what I mean? It's like saying, like, okay, here's the deal, Cecil. Great news. This is good soup to eat. There is only one turd in the entire soup. Exactly, yeah. There's only one, and it's a small one.
Starting point is 00:12:46 It was a little pincher. And it was in the soup, the soup that was made. It might not be in your bowl at all. It might not even be in your bowl at all. Who knows? It's in a lucky bowl.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Someone gets that lucky bowl. It's kind of the same idea, right? Like if you've got one car, chock-a-block full of explodey shit and all the other cars are full of like plush puppy dogs that should still be a dangerous thing because when it derails it could explode and hurt people yeah but they're purposely like and if if you were running a business you know too
Starting point is 00:13:18 and to your point before you know that if you were an evil motherfucker running a business you'd be like all right cool we need to move X amount of vinyl chloride. I want to put 35% in this train, 35% in this train, 35% in that train. I'll get them all to the destination
Starting point is 00:13:32 and none of my cars, none of my trains will be classified as high risk or high hazard. That's what you would do. It's what every asshole would do because that math is too easy.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Of course you would do it because it's quarterly profits and it's money in the bank. What do you think about that? That's what it is. That's what it is. Exactly right. What does Fox News say? Ring, ding, ding, ding, ding, Obama's things.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Ding, ding, ding, ding, Obama's things. Ding, ding, ding, ding, Obama's things. What does Fox say? All right, see, so this story comes from The Atlantic. Why Fox News lied to its viewers, the network's hosts and leaders knew that Trump had lost the election, but feared the consequences of telling the audience the truth. So this is a great article from the LA. They basically are saying like,
Starting point is 00:14:09 look, the Atlantic was in direct competition with fledgling right-wing conspiracy nut job news networks like Newsmax. And what was the other one? You said the Atlantic, but you meant Fox. Oh, sorry. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:21 The Atlantic is not in competition with those nutbags. Fox is in competition with the nutbags. But Newsmax and OAN, those are the two. And so basically Fox was like, look, this is bullshit, but it's the bullshit people want to hear. Yeah. And then I turn off the TV. Right. Yeah. And that is an insane, and that's only a tiny paraphrasing, by the way, basically saying like, look, these people want to hear this. If we don't give them the shit that they want to hear, they're going to go listen to nonsense somewhere else. So we may as well capitulate to bullshit. What's crazy to me is like, you know, where's the reason journalism that looks at this and says, okay, is this objectively true or false what they're saying? We have evidence that says that there's no evidence of voter fraud, right? We have tons
Starting point is 00:15:10 of investigations and not a shred of evidence, right? We don't have evidence that there's no evidence. What we have is we basically have an example that no one has found anything. And they've done, and it's not for lack of trying. We know that they tried. We know they tried in multiple states. They hired their own people. And they've done, and it's not for lack of trying. We know that they tried. We know they tried in multiple states. They hired their own people. And they did. And they failed to find any voter fraud in any of these places. They couldn't even manufacture it. Like they couldn't even manufacture it. So we know that there is no evidence for it at all. And where's the reason to approach? Where's the people who come on? And I think there was maybe like one or two guys on Fox that were willing to say this.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And behind the scenes, they're talking about certain people like that Sidney Powell who did the Kraken lawsuit. Tucker Carlson's like, she's a nutcase. She's a crazy person. And she is a crazy person. She is a total crazy person. She is a crazy person.
Starting point is 00:16:04 But they still not only platform her, but they don't fact check her. Yeah. And when other people associated with Fox fact check some of the claims, they got fired when they publicly fact checked. They got fired for it. Yeah. So, you know, and their response is, hey, we're covering the allegations. Yes. Right. But they're not covering the allegations because Fox is not primarily a news channel either. They are a news and commentary channel. And the commentary piece is as interwoven with their coverage as any attempt at coverage. So they're constantly opining. Right. And then they're constantly having guests on who are, you know, spouting these fucking. They're not covering the allegation. They're putting the people on who are making the allegations.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And then they don't fact check that. That's no longer journalism. That's amplifying. That's platforming. And if it's different. If it's an opinion show, say it's an opinion show. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:58 But your channel is called Fox News. I know, man. People show up and they think it's the news and it's not the news. And that's what this Dominion lawsuit is all about. It's basically saying these people manufactured lies under the guise of a news station and sold them to the American people. Yeah. thinking, I don't know that you should be able to call yourself a news organization if more than a certain percentage of your broadcasting is editorialized. You know what I mean? And I
Starting point is 00:17:33 understand that a certain amount of, that's a gray line because a certain amount of analysis of news is necessary in order to contextualize and provide color to stories. But it seems like if you're saying, I am Fox News, then like 80 or 90% of your fucking show or your hours should be news. And not 10% of your show is news. And the rest of it is a bunch of fucking talking head pundit editorialist nonsense.
Starting point is 00:17:59 But it is that way. They have very little actual legitimate news coverage. I don't know if this happens to you, but almost everywhere that I go, it feels like when I go to like a public whatever that has a public television on the wall, there's only one of two things that are ever on the wall. Sports?
Starting point is 00:18:17 Nope. Home and garden TV at every doctor's office I've ever been to in my life. It's like at a bar or whatever. Whenever I go out to eat, it's always sports. It's sports, yes. Or it's the news. And it's almost always Fox News.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yeah. When I go to the gym, in the locker room, there's like TVs and stuff in the locker room. And it's not sports. It's always fucking Fox News. And they always leave the remote out
Starting point is 00:18:38 and I change it every time. Yeah. I walk by and I change it. I always just channel up to whatever the next channel is. I don't even look and see what it is. But I'm always like, no, I won't be bombarded with this bullshit.
Starting point is 00:18:48 It's a telenova, telenova or whatever it is. Yeah, probably is. I literally never have paid attention. I just, I walk in and it's just a, as a matter of principle, I have to change. What, what this tells me is like, we're as, we are as newsworthy as Fox news. Yeah. Right. Because you're, you're describing what we do, right? But we don't ever claim that we're a news channel. Right. We don't ever claim that we're telling you the news. We, in fact, always invite everyone
Starting point is 00:19:13 to go find their news elsewhere and then come to us and we'll help. We'll talk about it. We'll analyze it. But don't, like, one, don't ever expect to learn stuff from me, right? I'm going to tell you sort of what happened and then afterwards, go read this Atlantic article. Right. Don't ever, like one, don't ever expect to learn stuff from me, right? I'm going to tell you sort of what happened.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And then afterwards, go read this Atlantic article. Right, we post all the stories you can look at. Don't go to the glory hole. Yeah, for your news. If that's where you're going for your news, you need to poke right in the eye with it. Go somewhere else and get the facts. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Don't just trust us to give you those facts. Never trust what's on the other side of the glory hole. That's what you're saying. No, I think the glory hole has to work on trust. It's like give a penny, take a penny, Tom. It is. Give a BJ, take a BJ.
Starting point is 00:19:55 I will say, a glory hole is the, it is a fucking phallic leap of faith. It is a trust fall. Right? For real. For real. For real.
Starting point is 00:20:06 You've never done anything in your life more like... I feel like more corporate retreats need glory holes. Okay, so for this next team building exercise... All right, we're going to split up
Starting point is 00:20:17 into two teams. Here we go. One behind the wall. One on the other side of the wall. Okay, here we go. Three, two, one, go! Life's a piece of shit when you look at it. This is from Jezebel.
Starting point is 00:20:35 This is just the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen. I want to put this on the big screen. Jesus! Hold on, though. Before we get started... Yeah, because we have to
Starting point is 00:20:41 talk about what this says. Before we get started, though, this might not air anywhere. So, this last week, we got taken down from YouTube. Oh yeah, yeah. And I want to apologize to all the people I said last week when we were recording that you could view what we were doing because you can't do it on YouTube. They literally took our entire channel of YouTube down. They went, they gave us no notice, no warnings, no strikes. They took our entire channel down. We suspect it's because we talked about Manosphere stuff last week and we think it was mass reporting. We have a ticket in and a tweet that we sent out that got a lot of
Starting point is 00:21:19 traction, but at this point, we're not sure what's going to happen. We may never be on YouTube again. That's a possibility. Yeah, they may just keep us off. They may just remove our shit for good. And that leads me to other stuff that will make me very upset if that's the case. But in any case, there's a possibility that you may not see this on YouTube. I'm going to put it on the big screen anyway. Just so people can see it, but we will describe it.
Starting point is 00:21:43 I don't know who can see it. No one can see it now, but maybe in the future, who knows? What's important is I can see it. Tom can see it, but we will describe it. I don't know who could see it. No one could see it now, but maybe in the future, who knows? What's important is I can see it. Tom can see it. And so, but I just want to say like,
Starting point is 00:21:53 don't travel to YouTube to find it because it's not there. It's not there. It does not exist there. We are gone. Arkansas Republicans propose a monument to unborn fetuses. And I have to read the monument, guys.
Starting point is 00:22:05 So here's the deal. There's a giant slab of fucking marble or granite or whatever the fuck it is. Like every other dumbass monument you've ever seen. And it says, in memory of all... And so, first of all, it says, they chose three different fonts. I'm going to be very critical. So they chose a sans serif
Starting point is 00:22:21 for the top that's all caps. They chose a serif font in the middle, and then they chose a cursive font, a cursive-ish font for the bottom. So here's what it says. And the bottom is a standard cap. So like a cap, but they put a cap like a title. So they put every word has its own capitalization,
Starting point is 00:22:42 but the rest of it is all caps. Anyway, just need to explain it. And also the first line appears like it's bolded, by the way. It does. It very much of it is all caps. Anyway, just need to explain it. And also, the first line appears like it's bolded, by the way. It very much does. It's terrible. It's visually hideous. Helvetica for the top. Go ahead. Times New
Starting point is 00:22:56 Rome. In memory of all innocent victims of abortion, and this is my favorite, life would have been a beautiful choice. There's no comma. There's no comma. Life would have been a beautiful choice. So it reads. Life would have been a beautiful choice. There's no comma. There's no comma. Life would have been a beautiful choice. So it reads, life would have been a beautiful choice.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Life would have been a beautiful choice. Not life. Jesus Christ. Life would have been a beautiful choice. They got to call the guy out with his chisel to fucking hammer in a fucking comma. It's a comma. So good. Life would have been a beautiful choice.
Starting point is 00:23:22 It's in quotes too. Yeah. Like someone said it. Like somebody said it. Somebody said it really fast. Hey, Jim, what should we put on there?
Starting point is 00:23:29 They got the micro machine guys. I know. Life would be a beautiful choice. Life would be a beautiful choice. It's amazing. It's like somebody's like running out of the office. Like,
Starting point is 00:23:36 hey, you didn't tell us what you wanted to do on the monument. Life would be a beautiful choice. I got a Christmas train. Life would be a beautiful choice. It's going to blow up
Starting point is 00:23:42 with a splint of chloride. Yeah. So the gist of this article, though, from Jezebel, awesome, because they're basically like, Arkansas could spend money on a lot of things. Yeah, man. There's a lot of people hurting in Arkansas, and they spend it on a fucking monument that does nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Yeah. In Arkansas, that is a terrible state to be a child. Yeah. The Jezebel article goes to great lengths to point out that the reality of living as a child in Arkansas is fucking horrible. It's rough. That's not a good state to grow up in. The state has very low resources to provide for things like education and healthcare. And like, so being a kid, it's like maybe not being born at all. If you're going to be born into Arkansas is a thousand
Starting point is 00:24:32 percent better. You never had to think about this. If you were aborted in Arkansas, you never had to live in Arkansas. I would rather be aborted in Indiana than grow up in Indiana. Full stop. Full stop. Absolutely true. Truth. You heard it here first. I would rather be aborted in Indiana than grow up there. I think I figured out why we're off YouTube.
Starting point is 00:25:03 You know, I wasn't sure. And now I get it. I get it now maybe it's me i get it i get it now that's fine that's fine because let's face it the devil is a hell of a lot more interesting this story comes from the morning call a lehigh Valley School District is opening its doors to an after-school Satan club. It says its hands are tied by the law. And its hands are tied by the law because the Lehigh Valley School District opens the doors for the Good News Club. The Good News Club is a Christian organization that opens up these little after, these little afterschool programs all across America specifically to indoctrinate and proselytize to children to try to get them to be into their faith. And so unsurprisingly, the Satanic Temple is like, cool, we'll do our own thing. And people are, some of the quotes from this, I have to read some of the quotes from this
Starting point is 00:26:01 because they're delightfully misunderstanding. My favorite one is they went out of their way to ask a fucking homeschool mom yeah man and you're like you ain't in this lady you got no you ain't in this like you are as in this as i'm in this like you're not in it and that homeschool lady and she starts off saying something crazy and then weirdly enough she's the only one who says i don't think any religion belongs in exactly right and i was like how am i agreeing with the crazy homeschool lady yeah yeah so here i'm gonna read what the satanic temple says just describing the satanic temple and the uh after school satan club the after school satan club by the way is not teaching anything about satanism what they are doing is like, they're just doing like charitable good works
Starting point is 00:26:46 and like they always do, right? The most wholesome shit you can imagine. They're talking about it all. It is seriously the most wholesome shit you can imagine. They said, members that are part of the Satanic temple do not believe in a supernatural Satan, nor do we worship the devil. We look to Satan as a symbol of standing up
Starting point is 00:27:01 to tyrannical authority and nothing more than that. We do not view Satan as evil or trying to do anything bad in the communities that we go to. So they go to great lengths to explain their viewpoint. And they have a viewpoint that is like absolutely different. It's like, oh, you know what? We just, we don't believe in tyranny. Like we're an anti-tyranny organization. But because the fucking Christians cannot get, they see that word Satan, and they
Starting point is 00:27:25 fucking short wires, short circuits, their whole fucking brain stuff, man. They can't see past it. So scroll down a little bit more, and I'll want to read. But some parents push back on the sentiment, noting the permission slip features a red Satan cartoon with horns. That's so amazing.
Starting point is 00:27:41 That's great. That's a little bit of a thumb in the eye. That really is so amazing. That is like, because they also little bit of a thumb in the eye. That really is so amazing. That is like, because they also do a good job of tuning these fuckers up and like, bravo. And you need it on there
Starting point is 00:27:53 to tune them up because if you are just an innocuous club that happens to have one word and you're never talking about it, then they won't, then it won't matter to them. It won't.
Starting point is 00:28:04 It's got to matter to them. They've got to... You've got to goad them into wanting to stop you so that you can say, okay, let's just all agree that no religious... And then they're all like,
Starting point is 00:28:17 well, I don't know that I want to do that. And then they're all just cognitive dissonance like crazy. So you've got to goad them. And that little fucking little tiny devil on there is perfect. Well, and it's great because these fucking idiots cannot like, they cannot get symbolism out of their fucking heads.
Starting point is 00:28:34 They love, they'll watch the Super Bowl and they'll be like, oh, red smoke. That's the devil. They see the devil everywhere. They see the devil in a fucking monster energy drink. They see the devil in a fucking children's book. They see the devil everywhere they look. It's,
Starting point is 00:28:45 it's the devil! Like, these idiots are primed, man. Oh, yeah. They're absolutely like, they're ready to go. And some of these comments are set up for that.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Yeah. So, the whole thing is, look at their symbol, said Leslie whatever, parent of a 2020 district graduate. I have nothing against, this is my favorite,
Starting point is 00:29:01 I have nothing against white witchcraft. I have nothing against those types of beliefs, but this is something that should be taught at home. So she's basically being like, look, obviously I think magic is real. Look, if you want to have a cutting board full of crystals. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:13 If you want your charcuterie tray of white magic. If you're an Instagram witch, that's cool. I was shocked at that. She's like, okay, look, I'm down with witches, but only the good ones. You know? Obviously, they're not going to talk about the scary parts of Satanism, said Brianna Rich. This is the homeschool lady. She thinks public schools indoctrinate children.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Satanism is a very dark, dark thing, she said. She also said the club might be more appropriate for high school students. I think children are very impressionable. I don't think we should be shoving anything down their throats. She said, adding, she doesn't think it's appropriate for any religion to be discussed in schools,
Starting point is 00:29:50 even though she's a Christian. I was like, all right, I kind of, uh, yeah, that's literally the point. I agree with the Satanists.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I agree. Right. The Satanists are like, yeah, this is not appropriate. Yeah. So we're going to come in. We're going to keep being inappropriate until you realize it's all inappropriate.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Your thing is inappropriate. You won't ever do that. Right. We all know you're not going to do that. Nope. Lee Elaine, a 2020 graduate with siblings at the school, she supports the new club. She says, I thought it was a great idea.
Starting point is 00:30:16 I'm big on freedom of expression and all that. We never had anything like that when I was in school. And this I liked. It was always Christian-based, and they have to understand that not everybody is a Christian. I like that too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So a couple of good comments in there. Yeah. That's somebody who recently graduated is like, look, man, this school
Starting point is 00:30:32 doesn't fucking represent us. Yeah. And it's being forced down our fucking throats. When I was a kid, there was in my high school, there was religious clubs and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just like a thing like and there are these these pervasive fucking clubs like that good news bullshit.. I mean, it's just like a thing. And there are these pervasive fucking clubs like that good news bullshit.
Starting point is 00:30:48 They just go all over and they try to indoctrinate kids that might be of completely different face. And when you're a little kid and your friends are going somewhere and you want to go with your friends. It's just a fun thing to do. You might go with your friends to that church,
Starting point is 00:31:05 and then you may listen to what they have to say and become indoctrinated to this stuff because you don't have the reason to know whether or not you actually believe in it. What you have is a moment with people who you're comfortable with and you like, and that entices you to want to do it more. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:23 The social pressure for middle school kids is at its peak. Yeah. That's at its peak. And high school isn't much less. Yeah. There's a huge amount of social pressure. Right. I did all kinds of shit when I was in high school and middle school that did not interest me in the slightest.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Yeah. In order just to hang out with people that I liked. Yeah. I did it all the time. You said that you went to one of those speak in tongues places too. I went to a mega church because there was a girl I was interested in the time. You said that you went to like one of those like speak in tongues places. I went to a mega church because there was a girl I was interested. She's like, would you go to church with me? I was like, you're a girl.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Yeah. Like I'll go anywhere. If she was like, yeah, I'd like you to go to the fucking alligator farm and feed it your left arm. I'd be like, all right. Sounds good. I can buy with my right. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I can touch your boob with my right arm. Like it's fine. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's how that's how people are. Yeah. Hello, my right arm. Like, it's fine. Yeah. Like, that's how people are. Yeah. Hello, ladies, man. Ooh, it's a lady.
Starting point is 00:32:10 This story comes to AP News. Fucking how fucking fragile are the goddamn Baptists? Southern Baptists oust Saddleback Church over woman pastors. So the Saddleback Church is a fucking enormous church. It's huge. That's the thing you got to understand first in the story. Rick Warren is the guy
Starting point is 00:32:27 and it's a mega, mega church out of California. Yep. Giant goddamn church. And the Southern, it was part of the Southern Baptist Coalition. And the Southern Baptists were like, wait a minute,
Starting point is 00:32:37 wait a minute. Women pastors? Yeah. Jesus don't speaks to no woman. They literally say that too. What's crazy is, is their laws say, you know, that the Bible basically says that only men can do this.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Yeah. Period. That's it. That's it. And that's the end of it. And then there's been several churches that have ordained women ministers and they come out and do their thing.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Pastors, ministers, I don't know. I don't fucking care. Whatever they have. But they do this thing where they ordain them and they're like, they kick them out of this convention. And this mega church, which is a huge church and a huge portion of their membership, they said, no, you can't come because you have like three women pastors. That is, when you read a story like this, you realize just how incredibly fearful and small minded this fucking church. And the thing is,
Starting point is 00:33:32 the Southern Baptist, that's an enormous organization. It is. That is an absolutely wildly huge organization. So, and I didn't fully understand that, like living way up here in the Midwest until we started doing this show, I didn't understand how big the Southern Baptist
Starting point is 00:33:46 like community or convention or whatever. But it's the biggest Protestant church in the world. Yeah. It's fucking enormous. It's huge, man. It's enormous. And for them to be like, no women's, no girls allowed
Starting point is 00:33:59 with a fucking backward Z in their fucking stupid clubhouse. That's not true, man. They want as many women as they can get. They just want to put them in their place. Yeah, that's the key, is that they are 100% not interested in ever putting a woman in a place of authority.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Yep. That's what they're interested in doing. That's right. And they want to make sure that every woman in their group is reinforced in this over and over and over again and never sees anyone rise to the top of the heap. That is a woman. That's their gender. And think about what that means for the
Starting point is 00:34:34 interpersonal dynamics that they're teaching to all of their members. I mean, it's writ large for everyone to see. Right. So if your church as an organization is saying that women cannot speak the truth of God's word or whatever fucking nonsense phrasing they use, right? Because God won't speak to women or God doesn't want women to do this work.
Starting point is 00:34:54 That is a sort of like, not just gender essentialism, but hierarchical gender essentialism that says women are good for one thing and men are good for another. Oh, and it just so happens the thing that men are good for is leadership and authority. And so how is that not supposed to translate down into the home?
Starting point is 00:35:12 Yeah, no, it's intended to. It's intended to, exactly. You hear how they talk about, and trust me, it's not just the lack of women on the pulpit. It's indoctrination in every sermon. Where does the woman belong? What does the woman do? You know, they're going to tell you. The dudes that are in charge
Starting point is 00:35:32 will tell you what the women should be doing. And that's reinforced, not just in, you know, not just in the optics. It's reinforced in the doctrine. In the doctrine. And then, you know, beyond the home, that's going to spread to workplaces in the South. For sure.
Starting point is 00:35:47 You know, just all over. Yeah. Because, like, what are our workplaces? Our workplaces are, in many ways, extensions of our values and our own hierarchies and communities. I told you goddamn Dietrich would try to pawn off some cheap shit North Korean plastic. This trick comes from Business Insider. North Korean plastic. This story comes from Business Insider.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Trump defends Kim Jong-un after recent missile tests and says he has a right to feel threatened by U.S. military drills in South Korea. I got to read what this fucking orange piece of shit said. He said, Kim Jong-un... He misspelled his fucking name!
Starting point is 00:36:21 Guys, he misspelled his fucking name. Kim Jong-un of North Korea, who I got to know and got along with very well during my years as president, is not happy with the U.S. and South Korea doing big training and air exercises together. Big training. Oh, we're doing big training,
Starting point is 00:36:36 the biggest training. The most big, the sizabest training. The bigliest training. I'm going to stop myself there. You should not get along with an evil fucking dictator. You should not ever get along. I don't care how many fucking points
Starting point is 00:36:52 of connection you have. You should not get along with a third generation family autocrat. You should not get along ever with somebody who's like, you know what? We fire rockets at fucking generals. We have dogs attack people as an execution. We have literal work camps and labor
Starting point is 00:37:11 prisons. Like, how can you get along with that guy? How can- He said they, during his presidency, said they had a beautiful friendship. Yeah. And they wrote beautiful letters. Beautiful letters to each other. This guy just loves fucking dictators. Yeah, I think he very much does. But I also think like he constantly has to be pointing out anything that happens as a way to say I would be doing something better. Yeah, he's undermining.
Starting point is 00:37:37 He's trying to undermine every single thing. But he's so stupid, he doesn't realize that you can't undermine everything. You have to pick your battles. But he doesn so stupid, he doesn't realize that you can't undermine everything. Right. You have to pick your battles. But he doesn't understand. He's too dumb to know what battles to pick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:51 And this is a stupid battle. This is a stupid battle. One of the first things that he did when he was president was to side with these evil fucking motherfuckers like Putin and Kim Jong-un. And you're just like, holy shit, man. Like, that's not a good look. Yeah. That has not aged well. That will continue to not age well.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Yeah, man. What are you fucking talking about? Well, I don't understand how, like, like 10 minutes ago, pretty universally, no matter what side of the fucking political aisle you were on. We were all in agreement that North Korea was a fucking problem. For like my whole life almost. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Yeah. I mean, North, like I said, it's three generations of the Kims that have been in power in North Korea and they'd have been doing like starving their people in mass and like doing evil, just genuinely crazy 1984 big brother evil shit. We have been all kind of unified, like unlike Cuba, for example, right? Like the right
Starting point is 00:38:51 and the left don't agree on Cuba and our responsibility to Cuba and like our, our treatment of Cuba. That's cool. We can, but everybody agreed about North Korea. The world agreed about North Korea. And Trump is just like, actually, I feel a little, he's a good guy, very good guy, love him, bigly guy, love his bigness, I'm also big, we're big together. We can't, you can't side with this guy. How are we in a world where a former president is like,
Starting point is 00:39:17 and a presidential nominee? Yeah, it's because, and I say this word, and I know you know what I mean. It's because of his charisma. And I know that we both understand that word in very different terms normally. But when it comes to him,
Starting point is 00:39:36 he has a draw that people just buy into anything he says. Anything. It doesn't matter what it is. He can say something that is abjectly crazy, right? And people will just say, you know what? You're not wrong. I think he's right on this one. He changed the minds on a lot of things in our country
Starting point is 00:39:59 by just saying it enough and that side because the higher ups in that party don't want to push back. Right. Because they want the votes. They want to feed off of his popularity. So they want those votes. So they won't push back and say,
Starting point is 00:40:16 you're a crazy person. That's a stupid thing. There's a reason why we've had sanctions against them for decades and decades and decades, they don't do that. What they say is, whatever's going to get me elected, if I can clip my fucking campaign somehow with this fucking carboneer thing on him and just drag me to where I want to go, I'm going to be okay. And so they don't push back when he says something that is genuinely fucking stupid and against 40 or 50 years of US policy. Yeah. It's, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:51 as you were saying that, like what occurs to me, it's, it's, it's this sort of like, God is good problem, right? It's like, God is good. Therefore, anything that happens is good because God did it. And it's like, Trump is the same thing. It's like, Trump is good. Therefore, anything Trump says is the right thing to accept. And it doesn't matter that it like conflicts with 50 years worth of our national values. It doesn't matter if like you, Jimmy fucking watch TV has for however long understood North Korea to be a problematic nation, right? Enemy of the United States. And you believe that yesterday. And now all of a or however long, understood North Korea to be a problematic nation. An enemy of the United States.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And you believed that yesterday. And now all of a sudden it's like, ah, he's a good guy, very good guy. We wrote love letters to each other. We spent some time alternating our glory hole positions, like whatever they fucking do together. And you're like, yeah, all right, cool. Like, what?
Starting point is 00:41:41 What the fuck? There's no, and we've talked about this before, but like, there really is no principles on the right. There are no principles. There is nothing the right stands for. What the right stands for is backing up their own power. That's exactly it. And you can tell with Trump, there is no principles either. It's just whim.
Starting point is 00:42:01 It's what he feels at the moment. Yep. just whim. It's what he feels at the moment. He's run, he's not run by intellect or by some sort of reason or some information that you don't have. We know that's not true, right? We know he's never been run by any of those things. He's only run by, you know, his gut and what he thinks, you know, how he feels about someone, right. That's how he's running. He would sit in a room with Vladimir Putin, and he would say to Vladimir Putin anything he thought he could tell him. Yes, right.
Starting point is 00:42:33 That would be a secret, and it wouldn't matter to him. He wouldn't care because he would feel that that's the right thing to do. He will hear him say, I didn't spy on you or whatever, and he would take that and say, oh, yeah, I 100% agree. He would never spy because I feel he doesn't ever talk about things he knows because he doesn't know anything. Yeah. Well, and also, he doesn't self-reflect and second guess. Never.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Never. That guy is a guy who just trusts his own instincts. And you should not unilaterally trust your own instincts. No. That's a dumb fucking thing to do. Don do that whoever you are you don't do that you gotta temper your fucking what you're doing in the world with some reason yeah man the problem is is he was so dumb they would put him in these briefings and he he would like zone out they stopped giving him they started giving him three or four abbreviated
Starting point is 00:43:25 briefings, bullets, briefer brief. This is a guy who's running the world pretty much. So man, I, I get it. Sometimes I space out during a meeting too, but like, I'm not, I'm not the president, man. Do you like books? Yeah. All right, Tom, I have an idea. Okay. Here's my idea. Let it go. Let's start a pack yes and then let's buy a bunch of copies of the grand unified
Starting point is 00:43:49 theory of bullshit yes and then we'll we'll shoot it to the top of the atheism category yes and
Starting point is 00:43:55 we can get it on the New York Times bestseller list for like 40 grand that's the third step the fourth step is profit I like the cut of your jib yeah we will have a lot
Starting point is 00:44:02 it's not my money to buy it anyway I just I made a pack. I got donations. Here's the thing. We could buy our own copies of our book. And then when people buy our book,
Starting point is 00:44:14 sell them back that copy we bought ourselves. I don't know that that's what Mike Pompeo's doing. I don't know if it is either. I don't know if it is either. I think these are giveaways at their like $5,000 dinner or whatever. Yeah, here's a fucking $12 book. Here's a $12 book. Mike Pompeo's- Put it on every chair. It's like a fucking Bible in a hotel room. God, wouldn't you? I couldn't throw this book out fast enough, by the way.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah, there's no way. This is Mike Pompeo's pack spent $42,000 on copies of his own book, and now it's a bestseller. I just want to say though, his book is entitled never given it. And I was like, come on, man. Like, like look at it. It's so full of innuendo. I know you're not making it hard on anybody. See that? There you go. You know, but seriously, like never given it, like don't name your book that. It's so easy. It's so easy. It's at this point. Like Monk Pompeo's mom. Now I know why we're off YouTube.
Starting point is 00:45:10 Thanks, Tom. He had to bring his mom into it. I did. Way to go. God damn it. Way to go, Tom. God damn it. Now we're canceled.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I was, here's the thing. Here's what blew me away. On New York Times hardcover nonfiction bestsellers list, he spent 42 grand buying up copies of his own book. That's all it took to get him to number three. And now it sits at number five. And I thought, I don't know, man, that seems like pretty cheap advertising. It really does, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:45:36 Doesn't it seem like cheap advertising? What it is, is it's a lot like what, you know, what you try to do when you launch a podcast is you launch five or six episodes in a row and you tell a bunch of people about it when you're in the business so that a ton of people download it. And so it starts shooting up charts. So people who are just browsing might see it. Yep. And that's what you do. That's how you launch a podcast. You've launched a podcast recently. Daryl Dads did it. I know we did it with Citation Needed
Starting point is 00:46:05 we didn't do it with this podcast there were no podcasts but back then we didn't know there was also seven podcasts 16 years ago but when we did it with this with Citation Needed we did it the same way and then we asked people to rate you
Starting point is 00:46:17 again if you can keep you're just trying to game the system somehow you're saying there's an algorithm out there that's trying to figure it out in this case it's book sales in the New York times. And if you can get those books, if I was a millionaire or billionaire or whatever, well,
Starting point is 00:46:32 if I was a billionaire dropping 42 grand on my own book, wouldn't be just like, give them away at like, fuck. I immediately just take them over to Goodwill. Okay, here you go. It's $42,000 of the books.
Starting point is 00:46:44 It's a great write-off. Right. And my book is now you go. It's $42,000 in the books. It's a great write-off. Right. And my book is now number three. It's, that is what blew me away. It's like, Elon Musk could easily have the number one book.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Yeah, $42,000 is a lot of money in real people terms. But in billionaire terms, it's nothing. Even in millionaire terms. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:01 It's like, it's inconsequential because what it'll do is it'll kick your book up to number three and then people will start buying your book. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:07 You're probably going to make that money back. Yeah. And once they got the book, there's no refunds, baby. That's it. No refunds on Mike Pompeo's book.
Starting point is 00:47:17 Never give an inch of a refund. I read this and it's like, there's speculation that he's going to run for president. And I'm just like, great. I want all, it's like, there's speculation that he's going to run for president. And I'm just like, great.
Starting point is 00:47:27 I want all, I want every, I want every single Republican congressman and senator to run. Yeah. I want it to be, Stack that clown car. I want a 62 hour debate. That's what I want.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Dude, I thought the same thing. I want a 62 hour debate. I want it to start on like Tuesday afternoon and not end until Friday. That's what I want. Dude, I thought the same thing. I want a 62-hour debate. I want it to start on like Tuesday afternoon and not end until Friday. That's what I want. I really genuinely hope that it is chock-a-block full of like not just Trump, but like former Trump employees. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Like people, because that's a mess. Yeah. That's just a fucking mess. I want it to be an absolute fucking mess. I want it to be an absolute fucking mess. I want it to be insanity. I want, I want fucking, I want Ivanka and Melania to run. That's what I want.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I want them all to run. I want that fucking weird uncanny valley Jared to run. I want Jared Kushner. I want both his sons. I want the, I want that lady who was like doing the, I ain't trying, that lady who was doing that fucking like, like the Heil Hitler shit. Yes. At the pack or whatever. I want her lady who was like doing the, I ain't trying, trying that lady who was doing that fucking like,
Starting point is 00:48:25 like the Heil Hitler shit. Yes. I want her to run. I don't even know who she is. I want Rudy Giuliani. Yeah. I want Rudy Giuliani and his sweating fucking hair grease. I want,
Starting point is 00:48:36 I want that fucking drunk lady that appeared with Rudy Giuliani. I want her. I want Steve Bannon with an ankle bracelet. That's what I want. I want that. Give me it all. Feed it ankle bracelet. That's what I want. I want that. Give me it all. Feed it to me. Feed it to me until I die.
Starting point is 00:48:49 Force it in my mouth until I die. That's what I want. I want every single, I want fucking Jeff Sessions to come out of his kepler hut and march his ass in and fucking get up there. That's what I want. I want everybody. I want him to bring every single person he fired.
Starting point is 00:49:04 All of his 700 person cabinet because he fired a new person every week. I want all of them to run. All of them. Every one of them. I want every White House press secretary. That's how deep the bench should be. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:15 I want Sean Spicer. I want Sean Spicer. That Scaramucci guy. I want Sean Spicer at an entire podium made of chewed gum. That's what I want. That's what I want. I want Scaramucci and I want him to quit seven minutes into the thinged gum. That's what I want. That's what I want. I want Scaramucci and I want him to quit
Starting point is 00:49:26 seven minutes into this thing. Yeah. That's it. And I want Sarah Huckabee Sanders there. Yes. I want her to run. Yes. I want Ron DeSantis to run.
Starting point is 00:49:34 I want Ron DeSantis' wife to run. Just everybody. Doesn't matter. Pick them all. Pick them all. I want that fucking crazy biker from Idaho to run. What's the governor
Starting point is 00:49:43 of fucking Texas? I want him to run too. Oh yeah, Abbott. Abbott. Let them all run. Hey, I'm bad. I want that fucking crazy biker from Idaho to run. What's the governor of fucking Texas? I want him to run too. Oh yeah, Abbott. Abbott. Let them all run. Hey, Abbott. I want that guy to run. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I want them to have to borrow podiums from fucking local high schools and shit. I want Abbott to get up on stage and then the power shuts up. That's what I want to have happen. Fuck it. I'm saying it. America deserves-
Starting point is 00:50:03 This story comes in the Washington Post. Schumer, McCarthy endangering lawmakers by giving Carlson, Tucker Carlson. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:50:12 January 6th footage. Yeah, all of it. All of it. Supposedly, like a whole trove, everything they had that they collected
Starting point is 00:50:18 in the January 6th committee, he basically took it and he just gave it to Tucker Carlson and now they're releasing little spurts. I don't know if Tucker Carlson. And now they're releasing little spurts. I don't know if you've seen this, but they're starting to release some of these little
Starting point is 00:50:30 things. And they're highly edited and they're like, oh, looks like collusion because the police let them in at one point because they opened the doors. Because they were overwhelmed. Because they're going to be overwhelmed and beat to death. And you're like, okay, I think we knew that, but sure. And then, of of course they're
Starting point is 00:50:45 framing it as a way to say like, like the, the right is getting ahold of all these clips to try to fight the narrative that it was an insurrection or that the police somehow weren't involved or something. It's so crazy. Cause the list of things that you have to believe if you're on the right, you know, it's Antifa. It's no, it's not actually, you know, these people, none of these people, these people were like hired actors or, you know, they did it and they made a mistake. They thought they were getting a tour.
Starting point is 00:51:13 You know, all the things you have to think to try to be part of the right. I don't even, I mean, but they have to keep digging their own holes. How do you think you were getting a tour when you show up with bear spray and a battering ram
Starting point is 00:51:27 to like kick the doors in and the cops are fighting you back? If that's the case, you could rob any bank. All you need is like a velvet rope that you carry with you.
Starting point is 00:51:35 What the fuck? I thought I was getting a tour when I literally attacked another human being and beat him onto the ground and chanted, hang Mike Pence. I thought that's,
Starting point is 00:51:45 it's standard tour. I did the same thing when I toured Salem on Halloween. It doesn't matter what footage you show them not going in or whatever it is
Starting point is 00:51:54 that you find, you still saw the footage of all the stuff they're doing. And that's not out of context. That's just footage they showed you.
Starting point is 00:52:02 And the other problem, real problem with this is that Tucker Carlson gets some behind-the-scenes stuff that the regular people didn't see. They added some of that stuff out, and it could be for safety concerns or whatever. But these going to be playing clips, he might have tape of Nancy Pelosi saying something,
Starting point is 00:52:20 and she might have been mad or something and said something awful. Well, also, she might have said, okay, we're going down to the fucking lower level three parking garage. Or, you know, the other thing is like all those, all those angles of all of that footage, they show where all the security cameras are.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Now you can tell and show these bad actors who we know there's bad actors, the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys. They were fucking convicted of seditious conspiracy. They are bad actors. We are showing, and then you're giving this to Tucker Carlson, the world's least ingenuous person.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Like he is a horrible, monstrous, bow-tied, man-child piece of shit. We're giving it to him. If there was ever more evidence that the right-wing politician, political machine, was being amplified and amplifying in turn Fox News, that Fox News was anything more or anything less than the propaganda arm of the right wing,
Starting point is 00:53:20 if there was ever any question, and there should not be at this point, there cannot be question about that. But if there was, this should put that to bed. You know, it's during the January 6th insurrection, fucking talking heads from Fox were text messaging. Yeah. With what's his fucking, Mark Meadows. Yeah. With leaders, leaders of the, of the United States, like big leaders.
Starting point is 00:53:42 They've got their fucking cell phones and they're going texty texty like it's you and I planning the fucking show tomorrow. Yeah. Are you kidding me? These are supposed to be, this is supposed to be the fourth estate. This is supposed to be journalism holding, you know, power accountable. That's nothing. Instead, they're feeding each other.
Starting point is 00:54:00 They're essentially going to be the propaganda arm of the right wing party. Absolutely. That's what they're going to be. Absolutely. They're going to get a ton of footage, and they're going to release things in cuts to try to show things, a narrative that they want to try to tell. And you know he's going to do it. He's going to have a big special where his editors went through and carefully picked through a bunch of stuff, and they're going to conveniently leave out all that tape that was really terribly incriminating. You know, what this smacks of is everything that autocratic dictators have, which is a state-sponsored media.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Yes, exactly right. That's what this has become. This has become a de facto, it's become a corporatized version of it. But just because something is a kleptocracy doesn't mean that it's not dangerously the same thing. This is a state-sponsored media now. This is like watching, like Kim Jong-un's Kim Jong-un channel. Might as well be his channel. Right. What's the difference? When we think of romance and marriage,
Starting point is 00:55:01 what is the first thought that comes into your mind? Divorce. This story comes from the Atlantic, Marjorie Taylor Greene's Civil War. The congresswoman is too influential within the GOP and too representative of its views for her calls for secession to be dismissed. This is referring to her recent and repeateds for a national divorce, which- She's saying that people who moved to red state shouldn't be able to vote for five years. Because you moved to a red state.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Because you moved to a red state. Because it was previously, what the right has long decried are the shifting demographics in this country. It's the reason that they hate immigration so much. They don't need immigration to try to protect American jobs. They hate immigration because with immigration, the demographic shift in this country doesn't favor the right.
Starting point is 00:55:49 That's the reason they don't like immigration. This is an attempt for, or they see this as a loss of power. So that's why they're anti-immigration. There's no other reason. That and racism, right? But they're not anti all types of immigration. They're anti certain types of immigration strategically based on the fact that it doesn't help their values. They don't want all those people who moved to North Carolina to flip that state. Well, they're probably going to flip that fucking state. People flooded into Austin. They might flip Texas.
Starting point is 00:56:22 They are afraid and they know it. But calling for a national divorce is a call for civil war. It sure is. It sure is. And I was very shocked. You know, I know we talked about this a while ago and you and I kind of have a policy.
Starting point is 00:56:34 We don't talk about Marjorie Taylor Greene if we can avoid it. We have a policy on the show. We find her to be absolute trash, but also a provocateur, right? It's like talking about, you know, you have to talk about Trump because he a provocateur, right? It's like talking about, you know, you have to talk about Trump because he's in power, right? You have to talk about him even though
Starting point is 00:56:50 you know he's a provocateur. You have to talk about him because he's in power. We stopped talking about Coulter for the same reason. But we very much stopped talking about Coulter because they're trying to get a rise out of you and you know what they're trying to do. And so you try to avoid some of these people if you can avoid them. And we made a decision, Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene felt like
Starting point is 00:57:09 they were cut from the same cloth. We felt like, you know what, there's just nothing here. They don't say anything of worth. So once in a while they say something dumb, but it's not really worth changing the show. So we decided we weren't going to cover it. But one of the things, one of the reasons why we did that is because they really weren't all that powerful. Yeah, I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene was a good draw. And we talked about her possibly being somebody who you'd want on the stage if you were running because she could draw a crowd. But more than that,
Starting point is 00:57:36 we really didn't feel like there was going to be much that they could do. But Kevin McCarthy has let her in and given her the keys to a lot of really high powered appointments and has basically opened his door to her. And she is clearly making a run for something. I don't know what it is, probably a vice presidency in the future, but she is clearly making a run right now. Yeah. I don't think we can ignore her anymore because she's become, she went from being to your point.
Starting point is 00:58:08 She went from being this, this clown shoe troll party bullshit. It's a troll that like, okay, you don't just don't give the trolls oxygen, you know, but now she's wildly influential in her party. And I think,
Starting point is 00:58:20 you know, just even the sub headline in the Atlantic really strikes me because it says she is too representative of the GOP's views. It's true. The thing is, the GOP has shifted in the last four years. The GOP has shifted dramatically to where people like Green and Boebert and Gates, they were outliers. Now they are no longer outliers. Now they are a power constituency or they're a powerful constituency within that larger body.
Starting point is 00:58:46 And that's dangerous as fuck, man. But now you have to wrestle with that. Now we have to say, okay, what is the GOP made of? It used to be made of some screaming howler monkey troll bullshit over here and then the grownups. And you could kind of ignore the nonsense. Now the nonsense is, how do you pull it apart? And when you look at her, take her as a case study, and you look at her and you say, okay, well, what about Marjorie Taylor Greene? Well, she went to a white supremacist
Starting point is 00:59:14 rally, right? She talked about crazy anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. She has several times talked about QAnon. She pushed the big lie constantly. Yep.
Starting point is 00:59:30 She's anti-vax. She's an anti-vaxxer. She's, you know, I mean, she genuinely has all the worst traits. Like, if you were going to, like, do an Arnold Schwarzenegger twin thing and shake up all the worst traits and put it in somebody,
Starting point is 00:59:43 she would be the worst traits you could possibly have. She's genetically engineered bad traits. Yeah. She's the Danny DeVito. Yeah. She's the genetically engineered terrible traits that are all sunk into one person. She is now in power. She is going to be further entrenched and probably more powerful in the future. I know, man. This is the reality of the Republican Party as they hold the House. Yeah. And it is, it's, you know, one thing
Starting point is 01:00:14 that strikes me all the time, and I don't know how to fix this. It's wild to me that you can get some fucking crank who represents a tiny rural district. A nothing district. A nothing district.
Starting point is 01:00:27 And then they end up having this like insanely outsized national platform despite the fact that their job is really to represent the tiniest person.
Starting point is 01:00:38 And they're not doing any of that work. She's not doing any of that work. She's instead, she is a provocateur for attention. She is building a career for herself. She's not doing any of that work. She's instead, she is a provocateur for attention. She is building a career for herself.
Starting point is 01:00:48 She's not working. None of these motherfuckers are working for their local constituencies. That's what the house is supposed to be. She's in the house, man. She's on a stage, man. Fuck. She's on a stage. And she's going to play it and play it and play it.
Starting point is 01:01:02 And mark my words, unless some crazy scandal hits her, clearly it can't be a scandal that involves anti-Semitism or white nationalism. I know. It can't involve either of those because those already happened and nothing happened. She's weirdly bulletproof. So those two things are off the table,
Starting point is 01:01:20 but unless some crazy scandal that we don't know about hits her, I think she's going to be a very powerful person for a very long time. I do too. She's young. She's crazy ambitious. She's crazy. That's not good. She's going to keep growing. She's going to work that system.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Yeah. So before we thank our patrons, we want to mention, we talked about it earlier. We joked about it earlier. We're banned on YouTube for now. Maybe indefinitely. We're not sure.
Starting point is 01:01:56 We think it was a Manosphere brigade got us taken down. They decided to go after us as I think his retaliation for sticking up for Chelsea Handler last week. And they mass flagged our video and we skipped on YouTube, literally passed all the checks that they normally give you. And they said that we were- Bullying and citing violence. Bullying, yeah. Yeah. bullying and inciting violence. Bullying, yeah. Yeah. So we're not going to be on YouTube for the near future, at least, and maybe indefinitely. So what we are going to do, though, because we know that people really do enjoy the video content. So what we are going
Starting point is 01:02:35 to do is we're going to start releasing these as pre-recorded episodes on Twitch. Now, would they have to stream just like they were on YouTube? On YouTube, we would premiere them, what they call premiered. So it would start just like a regular video and it would feel like a stream. There would be people talking, watching it all together, and then it would end and then the video would be available. The same thing is going to happen on Twitch, except for we're changing the times. So we're going to be doing an evening stream any night that there is a release, any day that there's a release of this show that it's available to the public, that evening at nine central,
Starting point is 01:03:09 it should be releasing on Twitch as well. So that means that you can listen in the morning, watch in the evening if you want. Sure. Or if you don't want to listen during the day, you can catch us on Twitch that evening. The whole show will play. If you miss it while it's playing, you can always go back.
Starting point is 01:03:22 And I think they last for a couple weeks on Twitch. So you can go to Twitch and be like, hey, I'm going to watch the Cog Dis episode for this week on Tuesday instead of watching it Monday and you can watch the whole thing. And so it's going to be available via video on Twitch. That's where we're moving operations at this point.
Starting point is 01:03:41 There's no reason to continue with, we can't continue with YouTube now. And we may decide to drop YouTube indefinitely, even if they do let us come back. Very likely. Because their content moderation is meant to basically flag us and get us removed. And so there's no reason to do this,
Starting point is 01:03:58 to keep playing with fire with them. Yep. Yeah, we're just, you know, the thing is like, I don't want to go down this road twice. Yeah. It's a pain in the ass. It's all of our,
Starting point is 01:04:07 it's all our content. We put thousands and thousands of hours up on YouTube of content, hours and hours of us doing stuff. And it's just gone. It's gone. It's just gone. Yep. So there's no recourse because we're not accustomed.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Yeah. And there is no recourse. Like we send a message and we hope that they'll look at it, but we have no guarantees that they even will. So look for our stuff now on Twitch until they ban us. So we just want to say that it's going to be available until then. So guys, this is our last show in February. If you're listening to this, I want to remind everybody that in March, the changes that we've made are becoming fully effective. What does that mean?
Starting point is 01:04:46 It really means that there's a lot more content and a lot more value for our patrons. And for everybody. Absolutely, everybody gets more, right? But we just want to make sure that everybody understands kind of what the deal is in March and going forward. Patrons, all patrons are going to get
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