Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 673: Hamburder Time
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And Cecil, I was going to say,
and it's been one week since our last train derailment,
but I would be wrong.
There was actually another train derailment in the Midwest,
like yesterday.
Wow.
Yesterday.
Wow.
Because as you pointed out, trains be fucking derailing.
They just fall off the tracks all the time.
We need a better system to keep trains on the tracks.
It's like your friend who had that really complex model in his house with the trains to fall over.
And then the cat once in a while would just knock them the fuck off the track.
We are like that.
They just fall the fuck off the track. We are like that. They just fall the fuck
off the tracks all the time. I wanted to talk when we get started, you know, about Trump visiting
Ohio. So Trump flew out to Ohio this last week. I wasn't able to confirm it, but I thought that
Biden wanted to go and the governor told him not to. Like the governor said, don't show up.
And then Trump shows up and of course the governor's him not to. Like the governor said, don't show up. And then Trump shows up.
And of course the governor's Republican.
So he's like, hey, that's great.
Let's have him come over.
Which real quick, it would be entirely consistent
with other disaster events
for the president to be told, don't come here.
Don't come here while we're busy.
That's entirely, we're super busy.
It's a distraction and it's a drain on resources,
local resources.
And so he showed up
with a couple crates of Goya beans,
handed out a couple cans of beans, Tom.
Some water,
bought some first responders there,
some Mickey D's,
some hamburgers.
Some hamburgers.
He bought some hamburgers
for some people.
And I don't want to shit on
somebody who's giving stuff away, right?
Like I feel like, you know,
I mean, well, I think it's like,
it's just as good as giving them nothing
in a lot of ways.
It's at least, you know,
and it's 100% a photo op.
I get that.
It's 100%.
Like Trump is not never given anything
out of the goodness of his heart.
You can look back throughout his entire history.
He's never done that.
But I want to just talk about one specific piece.
Trump is in fucking Ohio
and he's getting toured around and whatnot.
And the reason why you would want to do this
with a president is so that you could say to them,
hello, sir, you have the entire United States Treasury
and the power of the government and all this stuff.
You can fix some of this stuff.
You can declare emergencies.
You can, you know, send funds here.
You can be a fucking bell.
You can do stuff.
What?
It's not like a tour, right?
Like what can Trump do for them?
Nothing.
He can't do anything for them.
He brought him a case of beans and that was the extent of his
help was he handed out cans of beans okay uh i have several points to make and i don't know why
i don't know how you clean up vinyl chloride with beans i don't know that that's the i mean
this is like a weird tiktok challenge that we're doing here cecil this is like this is at the heart
of my question is were they perhaps were they magic beans did he
did he trade a cow for them he's trading cows was he right before he gets on the plane he actually
had a bunch of cows then he met a guy on the road on the way to the plane and he ends up it's a whole
thing it's a whole it's a story it's a whole it's a story yeah thank you like first of all
the fuck did these guys need?
Like, the train derailment
did not cause a terrible lack of beans.
Beans?
Like, there wasn't...
I get the water, right?
I get the water.
Water makes sense.
Water makes sense.
The water makes sense.
Okay, hey, it's possible.
Cans of beans.
Cans of what the fuck is with the beans?
Yeah.
Like, you know what?
I mean, a can of wet wipes is better.
Thank you.
Like, here we are in a town that has been polluted with poison gas,
and we're going to add beans to that problem?
Are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me?
Everybody's pulling the ripcord all day.
Just pulling the ripcord.
There's just some guy, his finger is sore.
Oh, God.
Everybody keeps pulling.
Oh, Jesus. Boy, Jesus.
It's killing me.
They all line up on a ridge and fart the cloud away, the toxic cloud away.
What the fuck?
This feels no different to me than when the fucking Bible thumpers show up to a tragedy
with cases of water.
Yeah.
And then they're like, oh, hey, here's a Bible.
Here's some water.
Join our church.
Here's some water.
He was handing out hats. It's the some water. He was handing out hats.
It's the same thing.
He was handing out hats.
The fucking water that he was handing out was branded with the goddamn Trump logo because he took it from his hotel stock.
Yeah.
And Cecil, the only question is how much were his minibar fees?
A lot.
They had to be brutal.
They're a lot.
He made each maid go to each room and, like—
Gather up all the bottles.
I need you to clear out the mini bar.
Yeah, but it's so funny because you're just like—
Like, everybody's talking.
And on Twitter, it was a buzz, all these pictures.
Because right now, on Twitter, if you go on Twitter,
it's just far-right people as far as the eye can see.
Who else would use it anymore?
It's insane.
And so I scrolled through the other day
and there was just tons of these pictures,
which are photo ops of him walking around.
And they're all like, that's a real leader.
And I'm thinking he doesn't have any power anymore.
Like that's not a leader.
He can't do anything.
It's not like he's there saying,
I will pledge my money to fix this.
Or I will sit down with the head of Norfolk Southern
and I will have a conversation and I will fix this.
He's not doing any, he just,
he's literally just standing there and a worker's like,
that's where it crashed.
And he's like, yep.
Looks like a fucking mess.
Hamburger time.
And then he goes, it's a hamburger.
Like, I don't get it.
Like, I just don't get it.
Like, they're falling all over themselves.
And it's what we talked about before.
Do you remember when they would do these fucking big rallies
and then they would talk about how nobody came to Biden's rally
and they would talk about everybody came to Trump's rally
and you're like, yeah, but I don't care about Biden.
Right.
Like, you don't understand.
I don't care about him.
He's literally an interchangeable politician.
They can take him out, unplug him. He's literally an interchangeable politician. They can take him out, unplug him,
and plug in another politician,
and I wouldn't notice or care.
It's just that there is a cult of personality
that follows that man around.
And when he shows up at places, it's a big deal.
Yep.
Well, also, I fully support Joe Biden.
I do.
I was happy to vote for him.
I am a vote blue guy.
I would not go to a political rally.
I've never gone to one.
I will never go to one.
Yeah.
That's not something I do.
I think that's a weird, mostly right-wing thing to do.
Yeah, I think so, too.
So you're like, well, you didn't go to my NASCAR race.
And I'm like, yeah, I don't go to NASCAR.
It doesn't mean that when I, it doesn't mean I bicycle to work. I get in a car and I drive to work. Like it's a weird right-wing ritual to go
to these like rallies because the, the, the Trump mega world goes to these rallies and they're
basically like a mega church. They behave like a fucking congregation with its fucking pastor proselytizing at the
center. That's the feel and the fit and the finish of the whole fucking thing. So yeah,
I don't go to those things because I think those things are fucking weird. And I don't go to weird
culty shit because I'm not a fucking weird cultist. I did want to correct something we talked about last week. Yeah. We had talked about how the deregulation would have prevented this.
Like, if they didn't deregulate, this would have been prevented.
And I want to read from PolitiFact.
There was a claim that Obama imposed stricter rules on trains carrying toxins.
Trump killed them.
It's mostly true.
But the last bullet is very important here.
It says,
even if this safety rule had been in effect,
it would not have applied to the Norfolk Southern train
that derailed an East Palace.
I want to say Palestine,
but it's Palestine.
Yeah, it's pronounced Palestine.
Palestine, Ohio.
I didn't know that.
I've been pronouncing it Palestine the whole time.
Because it was not categorized as a high hazard cargo train.
So I know that we're splitting hairs here
when we talk about that sort of thing.
Part of me says,
just fucking figure out what's a high hazard train.
If it can like kill all the wildlife in a hundred mile area,
maybe that's a high hazard train.
I don't know.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know anything about trains,
but my thought would be,
yeah,
make it,
you know,
if it could kill like a,
a small village of people,
thank you.
Then that's a,
that's a high hazard.
Let's just like,
can we agree?
Can we just agree on that?
Cause we'll see.
What is the rubric then for high hazard train?
If,
if when the train crashes and it is a goddamn disaster
and you have to evacuate the whole town and then you have to like open the fucking uh-oh gate to
let all the fucking vinyl chloride into the air so it doesn't explode and the vinyl chloride
degrades into phosgene gas which is a fucking chemical death agent like that we used in World War I.
And that's not high hazard.
That's a high bar for high hazard.
I can't really figure out.
What is it to be full of nuclear warheads?
Like, oh, it's all, you know,
we actually have a train
full of just nitroglycerin.
It's just, you know,
it's nitroglycerin in one tank,
Roadrunners in another,
and coyotes in the third.
And I like the shake and not stirred.
Right? Yeah, man.oyotes in the third. And I like it shaking, not stirred. Right?
Yeah, man.
What is in these things?
Oh, that's just Acme brand rockets.
It's just full of Acme brand rockets.
This one's anvils.
Weird.
Crazy.
What does it have to be full of?
This one's just those chalk outline, the little chalk dotted line that you have to follow.
Yeah, no, but in any case, I did want to correct it because we said it wouldn't have fixed,
it would have fixed it if they didn't.
And that's not true.
No.
It wouldn't have fixed it,
but that's just because
we have our own head up our ass
when it comes to whether or not
something is fucking a danger to America.
I mean, like,
the reason why they do this
is to classify it
so they don't have to follow those regulations.
Exactly, yeah. I mean, like, everybody sees that. why they do this is to classify it so they don't have to follow those regulations. Exactly.
I mean, like,
everybody sees that.
It's not like
they're hiding something
that's so secretive.
We all see it.
We all know what you're doing.
You're making it so that
certain trains
can have less regulation on them
so they cost less to man
and cost less to drive
and cost less to maintain and cost less to drive and cost less to maintain and cost less to
outfit. That's why you do it. You don't do it because it's not like a mistake. It's fucking
purposeful. They purposefully did this. And I can't remember where I read it or listened to it.
So take this a little bit of a grain of salt. But I did read or listen to something this week
that said that the reason this wasn't a high hazard train is because it's based on how many of or what percentage of the cars are full
of evil. But think about the ginormous trains that you see. I know, man.
They could stretch. You can get stuck behind a train for 15, 20 minutes. They can stretch for
miles and miles and miles. So, you know, if you're
deciding that a train is a high-hazard
train based on the percentage
of the cars
full of evil, that's a terrible
way. You know what I mean? It's like
saying, like, okay, here's the deal, Cecil.
Great news. This is
good soup to eat. There is only one
turd in the entire soup. Exactly, yeah.
There's only one, and it's a small one.
It was a little pincher.
And it was in the soup,
the soup that was made.
It might not be in your bowl at all.
It might not even be
in your bowl at all.
Who knows?
It's in a lucky bowl.
Someone gets that lucky bowl.
It's kind of the same idea, right?
Like if you've got one car,
chock-a-block full of
explodey shit
and all the other cars are full of like
plush puppy dogs that should still be a dangerous thing because when it derails it could explode and
hurt people yeah but they're purposely like and if if you were running a business you know too
and to your point before you know that if you were an evil motherfucker running a business you'd be
like all right cool we need to move X amount of vinyl chloride.
I want to put 35%
in this train,
35% in this train,
35% in that train.
I'll get them all
to the destination
and none of my cars,
none of my trains
will be classified
as high risk or high hazard.
That's what you would do.
It's what every asshole
would do
because that math is too easy.
Of course you would do it
because it's quarterly profits
and it's money in the bank.
What do you think about that?
That's what it is.
That's what it is. Exactly right.
What does Fox News say?
Ring, ding, ding, ding, ding, Obama's things.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, Obama's things.
Ding, ding, ding, ding, Obama's things.
What does Fox say?
All right, see, so this story comes from The Atlantic.
Why Fox News lied to its viewers, the network's hosts and leaders knew that Trump had lost the election,
but feared the consequences of telling the audience the truth.
So this is a great article from the LA.
They basically are saying like,
look, the Atlantic was in direct competition
with fledgling right-wing conspiracy
nut job news networks like Newsmax.
And what was the other one?
You said the Atlantic, but you meant Fox.
Oh, sorry.
Yes.
Yeah.
The Atlantic is not in competition with those nutbags. Fox is in
competition with the nutbags. But Newsmax and OAN, those are the two. And so basically Fox was like,
look, this is bullshit, but it's the bullshit people want to hear. Yeah. And then I turn off
the TV. Right. Yeah. And that is an insane, and that's only a tiny paraphrasing, by the way, basically saying like, look, these people want to hear this.
If we don't give them the shit that they want to hear, they're going to go listen to nonsense somewhere else.
So we may as well capitulate to bullshit.
What's crazy to me is like, you know, where's the reason journalism that looks at this and says, okay, is this objectively true or false what they're
saying? We have evidence that says that there's no evidence of voter fraud, right? We have tons
of investigations and not a shred of evidence, right? We don't have evidence that there's no
evidence. What we have is we basically have an example that no one has found anything.
And they've done, and it's not for lack of trying. We know that they tried. We know they
tried in multiple states. They hired their own people. And they've done, and it's not for lack of trying. We know that they tried. We know they tried in multiple states. They hired their own people. And they did. And they failed to find
any voter fraud in any of these places. They couldn't even manufacture it. Like they couldn't
even manufacture it. So we know that there is no evidence for it at all. And where's the reason
to approach? Where's the people who come on? And I think there was maybe like one or two guys on Fox
that were willing to say this.
And behind the scenes,
they're talking about certain people
like that Sidney Powell who did the Kraken lawsuit.
Tucker Carlson's like, she's a nutcase.
She's a crazy person.
And she is a crazy person.
She is a total crazy person.
She is a crazy person.
But they still not only platform her, but they don't fact check her. Yeah. And when other people
associated with Fox fact check some of the claims, they got fired when they publicly fact checked.
They got fired for it. Yeah. So, you know, and their response is, hey, we're covering the
allegations. Yes. Right. But they're not covering the allegations because Fox is not primarily a news channel either.
They are a news and commentary channel. And the commentary piece is as interwoven with their coverage as any attempt at coverage.
So they're constantly opining. Right. And then they're constantly having guests on who are, you know, spouting these fucking.
They're not covering the allegation. They're putting the people on
who are making the allegations.
And then they don't fact check that.
That's no longer journalism.
That's amplifying.
That's platforming.
And if it's different.
If it's an opinion show,
say it's an opinion show.
Right.
But your channel is called Fox News.
I know, man.
People show up and they think it's the news
and it's not the news.
And that's what this Dominion lawsuit is all about.
It's basically saying these people manufactured lies under the guise of a news station and sold them to the American people.
Yeah. thinking, I don't know that you should be able to call yourself a news organization if more than a
certain percentage of your broadcasting is editorialized. You know what I mean? And I
understand that a certain amount of, that's a gray line because a certain amount of analysis of news
is necessary in order to contextualize and provide color to stories. But it seems like if you're saying,
I am Fox News,
then like 80 or 90% of your fucking show
or your hours should be news.
And not 10% of your show is news.
And the rest of it is a bunch of fucking
talking head pundit editorialist nonsense.
But it is that way.
They have very little actual legitimate news coverage.
I don't know if this happens to you,
but almost everywhere that I go,
it feels like when I go to like a public whatever
that has a public television on the wall,
there's only one of two things that are ever on the wall.
Sports?
Nope.
Home and garden TV at every doctor's office
I've ever been to in my life.
It's like at a bar or whatever.
Whenever I go out to eat, it's always sports.
It's sports, yes.
Or it's the news.
And it's almost always Fox News.
Yeah.
When I go to the gym,
in the locker room,
there's like TVs and stuff
in the locker room.
And it's not sports.
It's always fucking Fox News.
And they always leave the remote out
and I change it every time.
Yeah.
I walk by and I change it.
I always just channel up
to whatever the next channel is.
I don't even look and see what it is.
But I'm always like,
no, I won't be bombarded with this bullshit.
It's a telenova, telenova or whatever it is. Yeah, probably is. I literally never have paid
attention. I just, I walk in and it's just a, as a matter of principle, I have to change.
What, what this tells me is like, we're as, we are as newsworthy as Fox news.
Yeah. Right. Because you're, you're describing what we do, right?
But we don't ever claim that we're a news channel.
Right.
We don't ever claim that we're telling you the news.
We, in fact, always invite everyone
to go find their news elsewhere
and then come to us and we'll help.
We'll talk about it.
We'll analyze it.
But don't, like, one,
don't ever expect to learn stuff from me, right?
I'm going to tell you sort of what happened and then afterwards, go read this Atlantic article. Right. Don't ever, like one, don't ever expect to learn stuff from me, right?
I'm going to tell you sort of what happened.
And then afterwards, go read this Atlantic article.
Right, we post all the stories you can look at.
Don't go to the glory hole.
Yeah, for your news.
If that's where you're going for your news,
you need to poke right in the eye with it.
Go somewhere else and get the facts.
Yes.
Don't just trust us to give you those facts.
Never trust what's on the other side of the glory hole.
That's what you're saying.
No, I think the glory hole has to work on trust.
It's like give a penny,
take a penny, Tom.
It is.
Give a BJ, take a BJ.
I will say,
a glory hole is the,
it is a fucking
phallic leap of faith.
It is a trust fall.
Right?
For real.
For real. For real.
You've never done anything
in your life
more like...
I feel like more corporate retreats
need glory holes.
Okay, so for this next
team building exercise...
All right, we're going to split up
into two teams.
Here we go.
One behind the wall.
One on the other side of the wall.
Okay, here we go.
Three, two, one, go!
Life's a piece of shit when you look at it.
This is from Jezebel.
This is just the dumbest
fucking thing I've ever seen.
I want to put this
on the big screen.
Jesus!
Hold on, though.
Before we get started...
Yeah, because we have to
talk about what this says.
Before we get started, though,
this might not air anywhere. So, this last week, we got taken down from
YouTube. Oh yeah, yeah. And I want to apologize to all the people I said last week when we were
recording that you could view what we were doing because you can't do it on YouTube. They literally
took our entire channel of YouTube down. They went, they gave us no notice, no warnings, no strikes. They took our
entire channel down. We suspect it's because we talked about Manosphere stuff last week and we
think it was mass reporting. We have a ticket in and a tweet that we sent out that got a lot of
traction, but at this point, we're not sure what's going to happen. We may never be on YouTube again. That's a possibility.
Yeah, they may just keep us off. They may just remove our shit for good.
And that leads me to other stuff
that will make me very upset if that's the case.
But in any case, there's a possibility
that you may not see this on YouTube.
I'm going to put it on the big screen anyway.
Just so people can see it, but we will describe it.
I don't know who can see it.
No one can see it now, but maybe in the future, who knows? What's important is I can see it. Tom can see it, but we will describe it. I don't know who could see it. No one could see it now,
but maybe in the future,
who knows?
What's important is I can see it.
Tom can see it.
And so,
but I just want to say like,
don't travel to YouTube to find it
because it's not there.
It's not there.
It does not exist there.
We are gone.
Arkansas Republicans propose a monument
to unborn fetuses.
And I have to read the monument, guys.
So here's the deal. There's a giant slab of
fucking marble or granite or whatever the fuck it is.
Like every other dumbass monument you've ever seen.
And it says,
in memory of all... And so, first of all,
it says, they chose three
different fonts. I'm going to be very
critical. So they chose a sans serif
for the top that's all caps.
They chose a serif font in the middle,
and then they chose a cursive font,
a cursive-ish font for the bottom.
So here's what it says.
And the bottom is a standard cap.
So like a cap, but they put a cap like a title.
So they put every word has its own capitalization,
but the rest of it is all caps.
Anyway, just need to explain it.
And also the first line appears like it's bolded, by the way. It does. It very much of it is all caps. Anyway, just need to explain it. And also, the first line
appears like it's bolded, by the way.
It very much does. It's terrible.
It's visually hideous.
Helvetica for the top.
Go ahead. Times New
Rome. In memory of all
innocent victims of abortion,
and this is my favorite,
life would have been a beautiful choice.
There's no comma. There's no comma. Life would have been a beautiful choice. So it reads. Life would have been a beautiful choice. There's no comma.
There's no comma.
Life would have been a beautiful choice.
So it reads, life would have been a beautiful choice.
Life would have been a beautiful choice.
Not life.
Jesus Christ.
Life would have been a beautiful choice.
They got to call the guy out with his chisel to fucking hammer in a fucking comma.
It's a comma.
So good.
Life would have been a beautiful choice.
It's in quotes too.
Yeah.
Like someone said it.
Like somebody said it.
Somebody said it really fast.
Hey,
Jim,
what should we put on there?
They got the micro machine guys.
I know.
Life would be a beautiful choice.
Life would be a beautiful choice.
It's amazing.
It's like somebody's like
running out of the office.
Like,
hey,
you didn't tell us
what you wanted to do
on the monument.
Life would be a beautiful choice.
I got a Christmas train.
Life would be a beautiful choice.
It's going to blow up
with a splint of chloride.
Yeah.
So the gist of this article, though, from Jezebel, awesome,
because they're basically like,
Arkansas could spend money on a lot of things.
Yeah, man.
There's a lot of people hurting in Arkansas,
and they spend it on a fucking monument that does nothing.
Yeah.
In Arkansas, that is a terrible state to be a child.
Yeah.
The Jezebel article goes to great lengths to point out that the reality of living as a child in Arkansas is fucking horrible.
It's rough.
That's not a good state to grow up in.
The state has very low resources to provide for things like education and healthcare. And like, so being
a kid, it's like maybe not being born at all. If you're going to be born into Arkansas is a thousand
percent better. You never had to think about this. If you were aborted in Arkansas, you never had to
live in Arkansas. I would rather be aborted in Indiana than grow up in Indiana.
Full stop.
Full stop.
Absolutely true.
Truth.
You heard it here first.
I would rather be aborted in Indiana than grow up there. I think I figured out why we're off YouTube.
You know, I wasn't sure. And now I get it. I get it now maybe it's me i get it i get it now that's
fine that's fine because let's face it the devil is a hell of a lot more interesting
this story comes from the morning call a lehigh Valley School District is opening its doors to an after-school Satan club.
It says its hands are tied by the law.
And its hands are tied by the law because the Lehigh Valley School District opens the doors for the Good News Club.
The Good News Club is a Christian organization that opens up these little after, these little afterschool programs all across America specifically to indoctrinate and proselytize to children to try to get them to be
into their faith. And so unsurprisingly, the Satanic Temple is like, cool, we'll do our own
thing. And people are, some of the quotes from this, I have to read some of the quotes from this
because they're delightfully misunderstanding. My favorite one is they went out of their way to ask a fucking homeschool mom yeah man and
you're like you ain't in this lady you got no you ain't in this like you are as in this as i'm in
this like you're not in it and that homeschool lady and she starts off saying something crazy
and then weirdly enough she's the only one who says i don't think
any religion belongs in exactly right and i was like how am i agreeing with the crazy homeschool
lady yeah yeah so here i'm gonna read what the satanic temple says just describing the satanic
temple and the uh after school satan club the after school satan club by the way is not teaching
anything about satanism what they are doing is like, they're just doing like charitable good works
and like they always do, right?
The most wholesome shit you can imagine.
They're talking about it all.
It is seriously the most wholesome shit you can imagine.
They said, members that are part of the Satanic temple
do not believe in a supernatural Satan,
nor do we worship the devil.
We look to Satan as a symbol of standing up
to tyrannical authority and nothing more than that.
We do not view Satan as evil or trying to do anything bad in the communities that we go to.
So they go to great lengths to explain their viewpoint.
And they have a viewpoint that is like absolutely different.
It's like, oh, you know what?
We just, we don't believe in tyranny.
Like we're an anti-tyranny organization.
But because the fucking Christians cannot get, they see that word Satan, and they
fucking short wires,
short circuits, their whole fucking
brain stuff, man. They can't see
past it. So scroll down a little bit more, and I'll
want to read.
But some parents push back on the sentiment, noting
the permission slip features a red Satan
cartoon with horns. That's so amazing.
That's great. That's a little bit of a thumb in the eye.
That really is so amazing. That is like, because they also little bit of a thumb in the eye. That really is so amazing.
That is like,
because they also do a good job
of tuning these fuckers up
and like,
bravo.
And you need it on there
to tune them up
because if you are just
an innocuous club
that happens to have one word
and you're never talking about it,
then they won't,
then it won't matter to them.
It won't.
It's got to matter to them.
They've got to...
You've got to goad them
into wanting to stop you
so that you can say,
okay, let's just all agree
that no religious...
And then they're all like,
well, I don't know
that I want to do that.
And then they're all just
cognitive dissonance like crazy.
So you've got to goad them.
And that little fucking little tiny devil on there is perfect.
Well, and it's great because these fucking idiots cannot like,
they cannot get symbolism out of their fucking heads.
They love, they'll watch the Super Bowl and they'll be like,
oh, red smoke.
That's the devil.
They see the devil everywhere.
They see the devil in a fucking monster energy drink.
They see the devil in a fucking children's book.
They see the devil everywhere they look.
It's,
it's the devil!
Like,
these idiots are primed, man.
Oh, yeah.
They're absolutely like,
they're ready to go.
And some of these comments
are set up for that.
Yeah.
So,
the whole thing is,
look at their symbol,
said Leslie whatever,
parent of a 2020 district graduate.
I have nothing against,
this is my favorite,
I have nothing against
white witchcraft.
I have nothing against
those types of beliefs,
but this is something that should be taught at home.
So she's basically being like, look, obviously I think magic is real.
Look, if you want to have a cutting board full of crystals.
Right.
If you want your charcuterie tray of white magic.
If you're an Instagram witch, that's cool.
I was shocked at that.
She's like, okay, look, I'm down with witches, but only the good ones.
You know?
Obviously, they're not going to talk about the scary parts of Satanism, said Brianna Rich.
This is the homeschool lady.
She thinks public schools indoctrinate children.
Satanism is a very dark, dark thing, she said.
She also said the club might be more appropriate for high school students.
I think children are very impressionable.
I don't think we should be shoving anything down their throats.
She said,
adding,
she doesn't think it's appropriate for any religion to be discussed in
schools,
even though she's a Christian.
I was like,
all right,
I kind of,
uh,
yeah,
that's literally the point.
I agree with the Satanists.
I agree.
Right.
The Satanists are like,
yeah,
this is not appropriate.
Yeah.
So we're going to come in.
We're going to keep being inappropriate until you realize it's all inappropriate.
Your thing is inappropriate.
You won't ever do that.
Right.
We all know you're not going to do that.
Nope.
Lee Elaine, a 2020 graduate with siblings at the school,
she supports the new club.
She says, I thought it was a great idea.
I'm big on freedom of expression and all that.
We never had anything like that when I was in school.
And this I liked.
It was always Christian-based,
and they have to understand that not everybody is a Christian. I like that too.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So a couple of good
comments in there. Yeah. That's somebody who
recently graduated is like, look, man, this school
doesn't fucking represent us. Yeah. And
it's being forced down our fucking throats.
When I was a kid, there was
in my high school, there was religious clubs
and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's
just like a thing like and there are these
these pervasive fucking clubs like that good news bullshit.. I mean, it's just like a thing. And there are these pervasive fucking clubs
like that good news bullshit.
They just go all over
and they try to indoctrinate kids
that might be of completely different face.
And when you're a little kid
and your friends are going somewhere
and you want to go with your friends.
It's just a fun thing to do.
You might go with your friends to that church,
and then you may listen to what they have to say
and become indoctrinated to this stuff
because you don't have the reason to know
whether or not you actually believe in it.
What you have is a moment with people
who you're comfortable with and you like,
and that entices you to want to do it more.
Absolutely.
The social pressure for middle school kids is at its peak.
Yeah.
That's at its peak.
And high school isn't much less.
Yeah.
There's a huge amount of social pressure.
Right.
I did all kinds of shit when I was in high school and middle school that did not interest me in the slightest.
Yeah.
In order just to hang out with people that I liked.
Yeah.
I did it all the time.
You said that you went to one of those speak in tongues places too. I went to a mega church because there was a girl I was interested in the time. You said that you went to like one of those like speak in tongues places.
I went to a mega church because there was a girl I was interested.
She's like, would you go to church with me?
I was like, you're a girl.
Yeah.
Like I'll go anywhere.
If she was like, yeah, I'd like you to go to the fucking alligator farm and feed it
your left arm.
I'd be like, all right.
Sounds good.
I can buy with my right.
Right.
I can touch your boob with my right arm.
Like it's fine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like that's how that's how people are. Yeah. Hello, my right arm. Like, it's fine. Yeah. Like, that's how people are.
Yeah.
Hello, ladies, man.
Ooh, it's a lady.
This story comes to AP News.
Fucking how fucking fragile are the goddamn Baptists?
Southern Baptists oust Saddleback Church over woman pastors.
So the Saddleback Church is a fucking enormous church.
It's huge.
That's the thing you got to understand
first in the story.
Rick Warren is the guy
and it's a mega,
mega church out of California.
Yep.
Giant goddamn church.
And the Southern,
it was part of the Southern Baptist Coalition.
And the Southern Baptists were like,
wait a minute,
wait a minute.
Women pastors?
Yeah.
Jesus don't speaks to no woman.
They literally say that too.
What's crazy is, is their laws say,
you know, that the Bible basically says
that only men can do this.
Yeah.
Period.
That's it.
That's it.
And that's the end of it.
And then there's been several churches
that have ordained women ministers
and they come out and do their thing.
Pastors, ministers, I don't know.
I don't fucking care. Whatever they have. But they do this thing where they ordain them and they're like,
they kick them out of this convention. And this mega church, which is a huge church and a huge
portion of their membership, they said, no, you can't come because you have like three women
pastors. That is, when you read a story like this,
you realize just how incredibly fearful
and small minded this fucking church.
And the thing is,
the Southern Baptist,
that's an enormous organization.
It is.
That is an absolutely wildly huge organization.
So, and I didn't fully understand that,
like living way up here in the Midwest
until we started doing this show,
I didn't understand how big the Southern Baptist
like community or convention or whatever.
But it's the biggest Protestant church in the world.
Yeah.
It's fucking enormous.
It's huge, man.
It's enormous.
And for them to be like,
no women's, no girls allowed
with a fucking backward Z
in their fucking stupid clubhouse.
That's not true, man.
They want as many women as they can get.
They just want to put them in their place.
Yeah, that's the key,
is that they are 100% not interested
in ever putting a woman in a place of authority.
Yep.
That's what they're interested in doing.
That's right.
And they want to make sure
that every woman in their group
is reinforced in this over and over and over again
and never sees anyone rise to the
top of the heap. That is a woman. That's their gender. And think about what that means for the
interpersonal dynamics that they're teaching to all of their members. I mean, it's writ large
for everyone to see. Right. So if your church as an organization is saying that women cannot speak
the truth of God's word
or whatever fucking nonsense
phrasing they use, right?
Because God won't speak to women
or God doesn't want women
to do this work.
That is a sort of like,
not just gender essentialism,
but hierarchical gender essentialism
that says women are good
for one thing
and men are good for another.
Oh, and it just so happens the thing that men are good for is leadership and authority.
And so how is that not supposed to translate down into the home?
Yeah, no, it's intended to.
It's intended to, exactly.
You hear how they talk about, and trust me, it's not just the lack of women on the pulpit.
It's indoctrination in every sermon.
Where does the woman belong?
What does the woman do?
You know, they're going to tell you.
The dudes that are in charge
will tell you what the women should be doing.
And that's reinforced,
not just in, you know,
not just in the optics.
It's reinforced in the doctrine.
In the doctrine.
And then, you know, beyond the home, that's going to spread to workplaces in the South.
For sure.
You know, just all over.
Yeah.
Because, like, what are our workplaces?
Our workplaces are, in many ways, extensions of our values and our own hierarchies and communities.
I told you goddamn Dietrich would try to pawn off some cheap shit North Korean plastic.
This trick comes from Business Insider.
North Korean plastic.
This story comes from Business Insider.
Trump defends Kim Jong-un after recent missile tests
and says he has a right to feel threatened
by U.S. military drills in South Korea.
I got to read what this fucking
orange piece of shit said.
He said,
Kim Jong-un...
He misspelled his fucking name!
Guys, he misspelled his fucking name.
Kim Jong-un of North Korea,
who I got to know and got along with very well
during my years as president,
is not happy with the U.S. and South Korea
doing big training and air exercises together.
Big training.
Oh, we're doing big training,
the biggest training.
The most big, the sizabest training.
The bigliest training.
I'm going to stop myself there.
You should not get along with an evil
fucking dictator. You should not
ever get along. I don't care
how many fucking points
of connection you have.
You should not get along with a third
generation family
autocrat.
You should not get along ever with
somebody who's like, you know what? We fire
rockets at fucking
generals. We have dogs attack people as an execution. We have literal work camps and labor
prisons. Like, how can you get along with that guy? How can- He said they, during his presidency,
said they had a beautiful friendship. Yeah. And they wrote beautiful letters. Beautiful letters
to each other. This guy just loves fucking dictators.
Yeah, I think he very much does.
But I also think like he constantly has to be
pointing out anything that happens
as a way to say I would be doing something better.
Yeah, he's undermining.
He's trying to undermine every single thing.
But he's so stupid,
he doesn't realize that you can't undermine everything.
You have to pick your battles. But he doesn so stupid, he doesn't realize that you can't undermine everything. Right.
You have to pick your battles.
But he doesn't understand.
He's too dumb to know what battles to pick.
Yeah.
And this is a stupid battle.
This is a stupid battle.
One of the first things that he did when he was president was to side with these evil fucking motherfuckers like Putin and Kim Jong-un.
And you're just like, holy shit, man.
Like, that's not a good look.
Yeah.
That has not aged well.
That will continue to not age well.
Yeah, man.
What are you fucking talking about?
Well, I don't understand how, like, like 10 minutes ago, pretty universally, no matter
what side of the fucking political aisle you were on.
We were all in agreement that North Korea was a fucking problem.
For like my whole life almost.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, North, like I said,
it's three generations of the Kims
that have been in power in North Korea
and they'd have been doing like starving their people in mass
and like doing evil,
just genuinely crazy 1984 big brother evil
shit. We have been all kind of unified, like unlike Cuba, for example, right? Like the right
and the left don't agree on Cuba and our responsibility to Cuba and like our, our treatment
of Cuba. That's cool. We can, but everybody agreed about North Korea. The world agreed about North
Korea. And Trump is just like,
actually, I feel a little, he's a good guy,
very good guy, love him, bigly guy,
love his bigness, I'm also big, we're big together.
We can't, you can't side with this guy. How are we in a world
where a former president is like,
and a presidential nominee?
Yeah, it's because,
and I say this word,
and I know you know what I mean.
It's because of his charisma.
And I know that we both understand that word
in very different terms normally.
But when it comes to him,
he has a draw that people just buy into anything he says.
Anything.
It doesn't matter what it is.
He can say something that is abjectly crazy, right?
And people will just say, you know what?
You're not wrong.
I think he's right on this one.
He changed the minds on a lot of things in our country
by just saying it enough and that side
because the higher ups in that party
don't want to push back.
Right.
Because they want the votes.
They want to feed off of his popularity.
So they want those votes.
So they won't push back and say,
you're a crazy person.
That's a stupid thing.
There's a reason why we've had sanctions against them
for decades and decades and decades, they don't do
that. What they say is, whatever's going to get me elected, if I can clip my fucking campaign
somehow with this fucking carboneer thing on him and just drag me to where I want to go,
I'm going to be okay. And so they don't push back when he says something that is
genuinely fucking stupid and against 40 or 50 years of US policy. Yeah. It's, you know,
as you were saying that, like what occurs to me, it's, it's, it's this sort of like,
God is good problem, right? It's like, God is good. Therefore, anything that happens is good
because God did it. And it's like, Trump is the same thing. It's like,
Trump is good. Therefore, anything Trump says is the right thing to accept. And it doesn't matter
that it like conflicts with 50 years worth of our national values. It doesn't matter if like you,
Jimmy fucking watch TV has for however long understood North Korea to be a problematic
nation, right? Enemy of the United States. And you believe that yesterday. And now all of a or however long, understood North Korea to be a problematic nation.
An enemy of the United States.
And you believed that yesterday.
And now all of a sudden it's like,
ah, he's a good guy, very good guy.
We wrote love letters to each other.
We spent some time alternating our glory hole positions,
like whatever they fucking do together.
And you're like, yeah, all right, cool.
Like, what?
What the fuck?
There's no, and we've talked about this before, but like, there really is no principles on the right.
There are no principles.
There is nothing the right stands for.
What the right stands for is backing up their own power.
That's exactly it.
And you can tell with Trump, there is no principles either.
It's just whim.
It's what he feels at the moment.
Yep. just whim. It's what he feels at the moment. He's run, he's not run by intellect or by some sort of
reason or some information that you don't have. We know that's not true, right? We know he's never
been run by any of those things. He's only run by, you know, his gut and what he thinks, you know,
how he feels about someone, right. That's how he's running.
He would sit in a room with Vladimir Putin,
and he would say to Vladimir Putin anything he thought he could tell him.
Yes, right.
That would be a secret, and it wouldn't matter to him.
He wouldn't care because he would feel that that's the right thing to do.
He will hear him say, I didn't spy on you or whatever,
and he would take that and say, oh, yeah, I 100% agree.
He would never spy because I feel he doesn't ever talk about things he knows because he doesn't know anything.
Yeah.
Well, and also, he doesn't self-reflect and second guess.
Never.
Never.
That guy is a guy who just trusts his own instincts.
And you should not unilaterally trust your own instincts.
No.
That's a dumb fucking thing to do. Don do that whoever you are you don't do that you gotta temper your
fucking what you're doing in the world with some reason yeah man the problem is is he was so dumb
they would put him in these briefings and he he would like zone out they stopped giving him they
started giving him three or four abbreviated
briefings, bullets, briefer brief. This is a guy who's running the world pretty much. So man, I,
I get it. Sometimes I space out during a meeting too, but like, I'm not, I'm not the president,
man. Do you like books? Yeah. All right, Tom, I have an idea. Okay. Here's my idea. Let it go.
Let's start a pack
yes
and then let's buy
a bunch of copies
of the grand unified
theory of bullshit
yes
and then we'll
we'll shoot it
to the top of the
atheism category
yes
and
we can get it on the
New York Times bestseller list
for like 40 grand
that's the third step
the fourth step is profit
I like the cut of your jib
yeah
we will have a lot
it's not my money
to buy it anyway
I just
I made a pack.
I got donations.
Here's the thing.
We could buy our own copies of our book.
And then when people buy our book,
sell them back that copy we bought ourselves.
I don't know that that's what Mike Pompeo's doing.
I don't know if it is either.
I don't know if it is either.
I think these are giveaways
at their like $5,000 dinner or whatever. Yeah, here's a fucking $12 book. Here's a $12 book. Mike Pompeo's-
Put it on every chair. It's like a fucking Bible in a hotel room.
God, wouldn't you? I couldn't throw this book out fast enough, by the way.
Yeah, there's no way. This is Mike Pompeo's pack spent $42,000 on copies of his own book,
and now it's a bestseller. I just want to
say though, his book is entitled never given it. And I was like, come on, man. Like, like look at
it. It's so full of innuendo. I know you're not making it hard on anybody. See that?
There you go. You know, but seriously, like never given it, like don't name your book that. It's so easy. It's so easy.
It's at this point.
Like Monk Pompeo's mom.
Now I know why we're off YouTube.
Thanks, Tom.
He had to bring his mom into it.
I did.
Way to go.
God damn it.
Way to go, Tom.
God damn it.
Now we're canceled.
I was, here's the thing.
Here's what blew me away.
On New York Times hardcover nonfiction bestsellers list, he spent 42 grand buying up copies of his own book.
That's all it took to get him to number three.
And now it sits at number five.
And I thought, I don't know, man,
that seems like pretty cheap advertising.
It really does, doesn't it?
Doesn't it seem like cheap advertising?
What it is, is it's a lot like what, you know,
what you try to do when you launch a podcast
is you launch five or six episodes in a row and
you tell a bunch of people about it when you're in the business so that a ton of people download
it. And so it starts shooting up charts. So people who are just browsing might see it.
Yep. And that's what you do. That's how you launch a podcast. You've launched a podcast recently.
Daryl Dads did it. I know we did it with Citation Needed
we didn't do it with this podcast
there were no podcasts
but back then we didn't know
there was also seven podcasts 16 years ago
but when we did it with this
with Citation Needed
we did it the same way
and then we asked people to rate you
again if you can keep
you're just trying to game the system somehow
you're saying there's an algorithm out there
that's trying to figure it out
in this case it's book sales in the New York times.
And if you can get those books,
if I was a millionaire or billionaire or whatever,
well,
if I was a billionaire dropping 42 grand on my own book,
wouldn't be just like,
give them away at like,
fuck.
I immediately just take them over to Goodwill.
Okay,
here you go.
It's $42,000 of the books.
It's a great write-off. Right. And my book is now you go. It's $42,000 in the books. It's a great write-off.
Right.
And my book is now number three.
It's,
that is what blew me away.
It's like,
Elon Musk could easily
have the number one book.
Yeah,
$42,000
is a lot of money
in real people terms.
But in billionaire terms,
it's nothing.
Even in millionaire terms.
Yeah.
It's like,
it's inconsequential
because what it'll do
is it'll kick your book
up to number three
and then people will start
buying your book.
Yeah.
You're probably going to
make that money back.
Yeah.
And once they got the book,
there's no refunds, baby.
That's it.
No refunds
on Mike Pompeo's book.
Never give an inch
of a refund.
I read this
and it's like,
there's speculation
that he's going to run
for president. And I'm just like, great. I want all, it's like, there's speculation that he's going to run for president.
And I'm just like, great.
I want all, I want every,
I want every single Republican congressman
and senator to run.
Yeah.
I want it to be,
Stack that clown car.
I want a 62 hour debate.
That's what I want.
Dude, I thought the same thing.
I want a 62 hour debate.
I want it to start on like Tuesday afternoon and not end until Friday. That's what I want. Dude, I thought the same thing. I want a 62-hour debate. I want it to start on like Tuesday afternoon
and not end until Friday.
That's what I want.
I really genuinely hope that it is chock-a-block full
of like not just Trump, but like former Trump employees.
Yeah.
Like people, because that's a mess.
Yeah.
That's just a fucking mess.
I want it to be an absolute fucking mess.
I want it to be an absolute fucking mess. I want it to be insanity.
I want, I want fucking,
I want Ivanka and Melania to run.
That's what I want.
I want them all to run.
I want that fucking weird uncanny valley Jared to run.
I want Jared Kushner.
I want both his sons.
I want the,
I want that lady who was like doing the,
I ain't trying,
that lady who was doing that fucking like, like the Heil Hitler shit. Yes. At the pack or whatever. I want her lady who was like doing the, I ain't trying, trying that lady who was doing that fucking like,
like the Heil Hitler shit.
Yes.
I want her to run.
I don't even know who she is.
I want Rudy Giuliani.
Yeah.
I want Rudy Giuliani and his sweating fucking hair grease.
I want,
I want that fucking drunk lady that appeared with Rudy Giuliani.
I want her.
I want Steve Bannon with an ankle bracelet.
That's what I want.
I want that. Give me it all. Feed it ankle bracelet. That's what I want. I want that.
Give me it all.
Feed it to me.
Feed it to me until I die.
Force it in my mouth until I die.
That's what I want.
I want every single,
I want fucking Jeff Sessions to come out of his kepler hut
and march his ass in and fucking get up there.
That's what I want.
I want everybody.
I want him to bring every single person he fired.
All of his 700 person cabinet
because he fired a new person every week.
I want all of them to run.
All of them.
Every one of them.
I want every White House press secretary.
That's how deep the bench should be.
Yes.
I want Sean Spicer.
I want Sean Spicer.
That Scaramucci guy.
I want Sean Spicer at an entire podium made of chewed gum.
That's what I want.
That's what I want. I want Scaramucci and I want him to quit seven minutes into the thinged gum. That's what I want. That's what I want.
I want Scaramucci
and I want him to quit
seven minutes into this thing.
Yeah.
That's it.
And I want Sarah Huckabee Sanders there.
Yes.
I want her to run.
Yes.
I want Ron DeSantis to run.
I want Ron DeSantis' wife to run.
Just everybody.
Doesn't matter.
Pick them all.
Pick them all.
I want that fucking crazy biker
from Idaho to run.
What's the governor
of fucking Texas?
I want him to run too. Oh yeah, Abbott. Abbott. Let them all run. Hey, I'm bad. I want that fucking crazy biker from Idaho to run. What's the governor of fucking Texas? I want him to run too.
Oh yeah, Abbott.
Abbott.
Let them all run.
Hey, Abbott.
I want that guy to run.
Yeah.
I want them to have to borrow podiums
from fucking local high schools and shit.
I want Abbott to get up on stage
and then the power shuts up.
That's what I want to have happen.
Fuck it.
I'm saying it.
America deserves-
This story comes
in the Washington Post.
Schumer,
McCarthy endangering
lawmakers by giving
Carlson,
Tucker Carlson.
Yeah,
January 6th footage.
Yeah,
all of it.
All of it.
Supposedly,
like a whole trove,
everything they had
that they collected
in the January 6th committee,
he basically took it
and he just gave it
to Tucker Carlson
and now they're
releasing little spurts. I don't know if Tucker Carlson. And now they're releasing little
spurts. I don't know if you've seen this, but they're starting
to release some of these little
things. And they're highly edited
and they're like, oh, looks like collusion
because the police let them in at one point
because they opened the doors. Because they were overwhelmed.
Because they're going to be overwhelmed and beat
to death. And you're like, okay,
I think we knew that, but sure.
And then, of of course they're
framing it as a way to say like, like the, the right is getting ahold of all these clips to try
to fight the narrative that it was an insurrection or that the police somehow weren't involved or
something. It's so crazy. Cause the list of things that you have to believe if you're on the right,
you know, it's Antifa. It's no, it's not actually, you know, these people,
none of these people, these people were like hired
actors or, you know, they
did it and they made a mistake.
They thought they were getting a tour.
You know, all the things you have to think to
try to be part of the right.
I don't even, I mean, but they
have to keep digging their own holes.
How do you think you were getting a tour
when you show up
with bear spray
and a battering ram
to like kick the doors in
and the cops
are fighting you back?
If that's the case,
you could rob any bank.
All you need is like
a velvet rope
that you carry with you.
What the fuck?
I thought I was getting a tour
when I literally
attacked another human being
and beat him onto the ground
and chanted,
hang Mike Pence.
I thought that's,
it's standard tour.
I did the same thing
when I toured Salem
on Halloween.
It doesn't matter
what footage you show them
not going in
or whatever it is
that you find,
you still saw the footage
of all the stuff
they're doing.
And that's not
out of context.
That's just footage
they showed you.
And the other problem,
real problem with this
is that Tucker Carlson gets some behind-the-scenes stuff
that the regular people didn't see.
They added some of that stuff out,
and it could be for safety concerns or whatever.
But these going to be playing clips,
he might have tape of Nancy Pelosi saying something,
and she might have been mad or something and said something awful.
Well, also, she might have said,
okay, we're going down to the fucking lower level three parking garage.
Or,
you know,
the other thing is like all those,
all those angles of all of that footage,
they show where all the security cameras are.
Now you can tell and show these bad actors who we know there's bad actors,
the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys.
They were fucking convicted of seditious conspiracy.
They are bad actors.
We are showing,
and then you're giving this
to Tucker Carlson,
the world's least ingenuous person.
Like he is a horrible,
monstrous, bow-tied,
man-child piece of shit.
We're giving it to him.
If there was ever more evidence
that the right-wing politician, political machine,
was being amplified and amplifying in turn Fox News,
that Fox News was anything more or anything less than the propaganda arm of the right wing,
if there was ever any question, and there should not be at this point,
there cannot be question about that.
But if there was, this should put that to bed.
You know, it's during the January 6th insurrection, fucking talking heads from Fox were text messaging.
Yeah.
With what's his fucking, Mark Meadows.
Yeah.
With leaders, leaders of the, of the United States, like big leaders.
They've got their fucking cell phones and they're going texty texty like it's you and
I planning the fucking show tomorrow.
Yeah.
Are you kidding me?
These are supposed to be, this is supposed to be the fourth estate.
This is supposed to be journalism holding, you know, power accountable.
That's nothing.
Instead, they're feeding each other.
They're essentially going to be the propaganda arm of the right wing party.
Absolutely.
That's what they're going to be.
Absolutely.
They're going to get a ton of footage, and they're going to release things in cuts to try to show things, a narrative that they want to try to tell.
And you know he's going to do it.
He's going to have a big special where his editors went through and carefully picked through a bunch of stuff, and they're going to conveniently leave out all that tape that was really terribly incriminating. You know, what this smacks of
is everything that autocratic dictators have, which is a state-sponsored media.
Yes, exactly right. That's what this has become. This has become a de facto,
it's become a corporatized version of it. But just because something is a kleptocracy doesn't mean that it's not dangerously the same thing.
This is a state-sponsored media now.
This is like watching, like Kim Jong-un's Kim Jong-un channel.
Might as well be his channel.
Right.
What's the difference?
When we think of romance and marriage,
what is the first thought that comes into your mind?
Divorce. This story comes
from the Atlantic, Marjorie Taylor Greene's Civil War. The congresswoman is too influential within
the GOP and too representative of its views for her calls for secession to be dismissed.
This is referring to her recent and repeateds for a national divorce, which-
She's saying that people who moved to red state
shouldn't be able to vote for five years.
Because you moved to a red state.
Because you moved to a red state.
Because it was previously,
what the right has long decried
are the shifting demographics in this country.
It's the reason that they hate immigration so much.
They don't need immigration
to try to protect American jobs.
They hate immigration because with immigration, the demographic shift in this country doesn't favor the right.
That's the reason they don't like immigration. This is an attempt for, or they see this as a
loss of power. So that's why they're anti-immigration. There's no other reason.
That and racism, right? But they're not anti all types of immigration.
They're anti certain types of immigration strategically based on the fact that it doesn't help their values.
They don't want all those people who moved to North Carolina to flip that state.
Well, they're probably going to flip that fucking state.
People flooded into Austin.
They might flip Texas.
They are afraid and they know it.
But calling for a national divorce
is a call for civil war.
It sure is.
It sure is.
And I was very shocked.
You know, I know we talked about this a while ago
and you and I kind of have a policy.
We don't talk about Marjorie Taylor Greene
if we can avoid it.
We have a policy on the show.
We find her to be absolute trash,
but also a provocateur, right?
It's like talking about, you know, you have to talk about Trump because he a provocateur, right? It's like talking about, you know,
you have to talk about Trump because he's in power,
right? You have to talk about him even though
you know he's a provocateur. You have
to talk about him because he's in power.
We stopped talking about Coulter for the same reason.
But we very much stopped talking about Coulter
because they're trying to get a rise out of you
and you know what they're trying to do.
And so you try to avoid some of these people if you
can avoid them. And we made a decision, Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene felt like
they were cut from the same cloth. We felt like, you know what, there's just nothing here. They
don't say anything of worth. So once in a while they say something dumb, but it's not really worth
changing the show. So we decided we weren't going to cover it. But one of the things,
one of the reasons why we did that is because they really weren't all that powerful. Yeah, I mean, Marjorie Taylor Greene was a good draw.
And we talked about her possibly being somebody
who you'd want on the stage if you were running
because she could draw a crowd.
But more than that,
we really didn't feel like there was going to be much
that they could do.
But Kevin McCarthy has let her in
and given her the keys to a lot of really high powered appointments
and has basically opened his door to her. And she is clearly making a run for something. I don't
know what it is, probably a vice presidency in the future, but she is clearly making a run right now.
Yeah. I don't think we can ignore her anymore because she's become,
she went from being to your point.
She went from being this,
this clown shoe troll party bullshit.
It's a troll that like,
okay,
you don't just don't give the trolls oxygen,
you know,
but now she's wildly influential in her party.
And I think,
you know,
just even the sub headline in the Atlantic really strikes me because it says
she is too representative of the GOP's views.
It's true.
The thing is, the GOP has shifted in the last four years.
The GOP has shifted dramatically to where people like Green and Boebert and Gates, they were outliers.
Now they are no longer outliers.
Now they are a power constituency or they're a powerful constituency within that larger body.
And that's dangerous as fuck, man. But now you have to wrestle with that. Now we have to say,
okay, what is the GOP made of? It used to be made of some screaming howler monkey troll bullshit
over here and then the grownups. And you could kind of ignore the nonsense. Now the nonsense is,
how do you pull it apart? And when you look at her,
take her as a case
study, and you look at her and you say,
okay, well, what about Marjorie
Taylor Greene? Well, she went to a white supremacist
rally, right? She
talked about crazy
anti-Semitic
conspiracy theories. She
has several times talked
about QAnon.
She pushed the big lie constantly.
Yep.
She's anti-vax.
She's an anti-vaxxer.
She's, you know,
I mean, she genuinely has all the worst traits.
Like, if you were going to, like,
do an Arnold Schwarzenegger twin thing
and shake up all the worst traits
and put it in somebody,
she would be the worst traits
you could possibly have. She's genetically engineered bad traits. Yeah. She's the Danny
DeVito. Yeah. She's the genetically engineered terrible traits that are all sunk into one person.
She is now in power. She is going to be further entrenched and probably more powerful in the future.
I know, man. This is the reality
of the Republican Party
as they hold the House.
Yeah. And it is, it's, you know, one thing
that strikes me all the time, and I don't know how to fix this.
It's wild
to me that you can get
some fucking crank
who represents a
tiny rural district.
A nothing district.
A nothing district.
And then they end up
having this like
insanely outsized
national platform
despite the fact that
their job is really
to represent
the tiniest person.
And they're not doing
any of that work.
She's not doing
any of that work.
She's instead,
she is a provocateur
for attention. She is building a career for herself. She's not doing any of that work. She's instead, she is a provocateur for attention.
She is building a career for herself.
She's not working.
None of these motherfuckers are working for their local constituencies.
That's what the house is supposed to be.
She's in the house, man.
She's on a stage, man.
Fuck.
She's on a stage.
And she's going to play it and play it and play it.
And mark my words, unless some crazy scandal hits her,
clearly it can't be a scandal
that involves anti-Semitism or white nationalism.
I know.
It can't involve either of those
because those already happened and nothing happened.
She's weirdly bulletproof.
So those two things are off the table,
but unless some crazy scandal
that we don't know about hits her,
I think she's going to be a very powerful person
for a very long time. I do too.
She's young. She's crazy ambitious.
She's crazy.
That's not good.
She's going to keep growing. She's going to work that system.
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