Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 69: Cancer of the Lesbian

Episode Date: October 14, 2012

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the left-hand side of the page. I have no doubt that Senator Brown is a good husband and a good father to his daughters, but this is an issue that affects all of our daughters and our granddaughters. And what matters here is how Senator Brown votes. So he's gone to Washington and he's had some good votes, but he's had exactly one chance to vote for equal pay for equal work and he voted no. He had exactly one chance to vote for insurance coverage for birth control and other preventive services for women, he voted no. And he had exactly one chance to vote for a pro-choice woman from Massachusetts to the

United States Supreme Court, and he voted no. Those are bad votes for women. The women of Massachusetts need a senator they can count on, not some of the time, but all of the time. I want to go to Washington to be there for all of our daughters and all of our granddaughters. This one really matters. There's a lot at stake here. You have another 20 seconds if you wish. I think that says it all. I am a mother of a daughter and the grandmother of granddaughters, and this is about their future. And I want to be

blunt. We should not be fighting about equal pay for equal work and access to birth control in 2012. These issues were resolved years ago until the Republicans brought them back. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. this is cognitive dissonance every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there is

no welcome, Matt. It turns out Cecil, there's also plenty of one-star reviews. We get those on occasion. Oh yeah, look, you know, I mean, honest feedback. That's what I desire is honest feedback. Real constructive criticism. Like the criticism left by Listener83 on iTunes.

If you like fuck being used every other sentence, then listen on. Listened because I was interested in the topic. Kept waiting for it to be discussed but ended up turning it off because all they wanted to do was joke around with each other one star i gotta i gotta say something to him what's his name again tom listener 83 listener 83 are you mad bro are you mad no i you know, it's funny because he doesn't say fuck. What he says is if you want to hear F, dollar sign, dollar sign, dollar sign. And I don't think we've ever said F, dollar sign, dollar sign, dollar sign on this show ever.

I know I've never said F, dollar sign, dollar sign, dollar sign. It's exhausting. I feel like I need to take a nap. It's really a long time to say something. We want to thank Listener38 for his in-depth review and his obliviousness to the explicit tag and the fact that everybody else is saying it's a fucking funny podcast. Full of swear. Yeah. Glad you don't like it because it's funny.

Way to go. Thanks, bro. You mad? So we just want to check to make sure you're not mad. We just want to make sure. That's the one thing we want to make sure about. Episode 69, by the way.

I'm not saying. I thought we were going to gloss right over it. I thought we were going to skip right over it because I normally skip right over 69. So I just thought we should probably skip it. Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar. Allahu Akbar.

Allahu Akbar. The very first story we're going to talk about is from Tribune.com. It's also from EveryFuckingOtherPlace.com. This is a story about a girl attacked by the Taliban. Her name is Malala. I'm probably mispronouncing that. I'm certain to mispronounce her last name, but I'm going to give it a shot. Yusufzzi?

Yusufzzi? Yusufzziusafzzi, Yusafzzi, Yusafzzi. That's it. Yusafzzi. Yeah. Anyway, she was a National Award Peace winner. And she's all of 14 years old. So it only stands to reason that the Taliban would mark her for death and shoot her in the head. Yeah, shoot her in the face. Yeah, shoot her in the face.

Yeah, that's what you want to do. Taliban, there you go, guys. Those guys are – those people are – they're pretty awesome. Hearts and minds, people. Hearts and minds. Yeah. You know, what does this say? Taliban, right?

The Taliban, a religious organization. Religion, of course, making the world a better place since – well, since fucking never, actually. Yeah, that would be the time. I remember that when it was never the case. Fucking never. And this is another example of religion making the world a horrible place. Because, you know, they're mad about it, Tom. They're mad about her becoming a Westerner. It's like, fucking, holy fucking barbarian, Batman.

You know, what the fuck? You fucking shot her in the face because she wanted to learn a thing. Well, at least they opened fire on a bus full of school children to do it. Yeah, you know, at some point, when you're like, alright, we need to figure out who's next on the list. Who's won a Peace Award recently? Let's get them. All the Peace Award winners. Who's been red Peace Award recently? Let's get them. All the Peace Award winners. Who's been regaled for stopping violence? Let's kill everybody who's won a Peace Award.

Are you going for the fucking National Irony Award? I mean, really, you're gunning down Peace Award winners? Isn't Peace? I mean, can't we just all kind of say, hey, you know what? We can't agree on a hell of a lot. But Peace? Yeah, I think we can all kind of say, hey, you know what we all – we can't agree on a hell of a lot. But peace? Yeah, I think we can all kind of get down with that. At what point are you like, well, peace, controversial.

No. No. Yeah, I'm going to have to go with violence and bloodshed on this one. Yeah, and what does she want? She wants to – she said that she wants to – she wanted to learn things. Like that's what she wants to do. She wants to push education. She wants to make sure that other people have the opportunity to learn things.

And it's like, oh, sorry. No, you know what? We've got to kill this girl. We've got to stop this girl. She's such a threat. A 14-year-old girl is such a threat that you've got to kill her. Your fucking religion is weak sauce, man. Yeah, no kidding.

Your ideals and your moral structure is pathetic. I mean, it's truly just epic fail, total pathetic. You should be ashamed, so ashamed to even associate yourself with that method of thinking. If I was a Muslim, I would be ashamed of this. I would be absolutely ashamed. And this person, Taliban spokesperson, Taliban spokesman, because spokesperson would assume that there would be a chance that it could be a woman. You don't need to be gender neutral with the Taliban. Definitely need to have the gendered pronoun here. Taliban spokesman, Esulana Ehsan, I guess. I don't know.

Fucking whatever. You should read the person's name, though, because that person is a fucking coward. And here's how you know they're a coward. Because they called and said that they did this shit by telephone from an undisclosed location. Yep. So, you know, fucking bravo, bro. Got fucking some big nuts on you. Way to hide in your little fucking hovel and be like, yeah, we totally shot that girl in the face.

You are fucking great. Pat yourself on the back. When you're losing the war of ideas so badly that your argument, your argument, ideas so badly that your argument your argument your your counterpoint to a 14 year old girl's cries for uh uh education is gunfire like when you're like you know man i'm such a big fucking man like i'm such a fucking tough guy i'll totally shoot an unarmed 14 year old girl on a school bus that's how tough i am oh yeah and then i'll run away and take credit for it from the phone. And then I'll threaten her again because they've gone on – they've come back and said, you know, if she survives, we'll just keep trying to kill her because we're so afraid. We will lose the war of ideas.

That is really what they're saying by doing this, right? They're saying we will lose this war of ideas. We have to make this a war of bullets. We can't let this be a war of ideas because we have no ideas to put in their place of these other, of better notions. We have no ability to argue from a humane or intellectual standpoint. The only way for us to win this argument, you know, it's like a canon, right? You know, it's a king's last argument. That's what you've got is canons. It's the same fucking thing.

You're like, well, shit. We could really, we could debate her. You know, I mean, we could each have a podium and we debate the issue. Or we could shoot her to school bus full of children. Yeah, I'm going to go a school bus full of children. Yeah, I'm going to go with a school bus full of children. Yeah, and when you're terrorizing your own people, these are your daughters.

When you're terrorizing your own daughters, you're a fucking pathetic parent too. You're pathetic parents. The whole institution over there is fucked because you have so little faith in yourself and faith in this religion. And, you know, it should be able to stand up to scrutiny, but it's not. Instead, what you want to do is you want to bully these people. You want to bully these girls, these young girls into stopping learning. these girls, these young girls into stopping learning.

And they're finding that the physical threats and the physical threats of violence, the physical threats of poisoning, things like that aren't working. It's not working because you have young girls like this who are saying, fuck you, you know what? I want to learn and I'm going to tell everybody in the world that I want to learn. And now what? Well, I guess we're just going to have to take more direct methods. And then they go and shoot her. They should surround this person with like a SEAL team. That's tax dollars well fucking spent right there. Go send a SEAL team to surround the You're only going to be able to change it with ideas. And the more and more people that feel less scared about coming out and saying,

I'm a woman, I deserve to learn, my daughter deserves to learn, the more it's going to change. In the name of Jesus, we speak that. So Cecil, this story is from GlobalPublicSquare.blogs.cnn CNN World. Ghana grapples with mental health. Well, that's fucking one way to put it. The other way to put it is don't be mentally ill in Ghana unless you enjoy being chained to a tree at a prayer camp. Unless you want to be Fido.

This is a terrible story. Basically, the story is outlining the abuses against those with mental disabilities in Ghana. It's beyond awful, but it's also just baffling. It's like,

remember that time? Imagine the commercials, right? Like, we see commercials for, like, you know, Effex Like we see commercials for like, you know, Effexor and Abilify and, you know, all the, okay. It's like, you know, in Ghana, it'd be, you know, down in the dumps, feeling low. Have you tried being tied to a tree and starved? Oh, I hadn't thought of that.

Man, I was feeling sad the other day and then they tied me to a tree at a prayer camp and withheld food and sleep. Side effects may include exposure. Some patients may experience horrible death and more being crazy. Yeah. Extreme loneliness. How is this supposed to?

Like, you've got to wonder, like, the thought process is, mm process is, oh, yeah, yeah, we got some problems with that one. Yeah, you know it's probably going to make them feel better. Yeah. Horrific abuse. Like, wow, that's a really angry gorilla. Why don't you go poke it with a stick? No, but one of the things that I think that is the most important part of this is that this is coming under the guise of religious treatment. Right.

It's not just tie your kid to a tree outside in the backyard. It's take your kid down the street to Profit fucking Dipshit, whatever his name is, and they will tie him to a tree for you. You can basically let your kid off there and they will tie him to a tree and feed them. Maybe if they want to, they don't have to. Maybe you might want to bring the food because sometimes they don't feed them and leave them outside like that. I don't even know who thinks that that's a cure for mental illness. Like, I don't even like, really, that's that's something that just that just boggles my mind. There is obviously a complete lack of education, right? They have no ability. These these these people have no ability that

are that are going through this treatment and that are bringing their relatives to these fucking horrifyingly awful human beings. You know, they don, they don't have any ability to understand, because they've never been educated in mental illness and psychiatric procedures and in diagnosis and treatment. That shit is obviously not part of that world, because if it were, you would not chain people in small dark rooms with a bucket to piss and shit in yeah in a fucking sweltering hot summer day while forcing them to undergo mandatory fasting

as prescribed by religious prophets because i've you know i haven't read the whole dsm-4 i think it's dsm-5 now i'm sorry i ain't read the whole thing, but I'm passably familiar, and I am aware that at no point does it recommend that as a treatment for anything other than happiness. I haven't even looked at it, and I can tell you that's not in there. I haven't even looked at it. religion, it's abuse. But since people think that religion has this sort of de facto morality, they can do this sort of thing and get away with it. They can do as they wish with these people. And they can look at the people, the people that are around them will look at them and say, well, it must be good because they are religious. Right. And that's harmful. That is – that's an evil.

And that's something that – there was a while back, Tom, that you had a – you and I were talking. We were talking about religion getting this de facto sort of reverence from people. In the same way, you know, being able to come right out and say it's religious, therefore it's moral is another evil because this is something that they're doing that is completely immoral. Right. And they're getting away with it. This is from thinkprogress.org, Arkansas state rep. If slavery were so god awful, why didn't Jesus or Paul condemn it? Oh, boy. You know, Arkansas state representative, you really got me there, John Hubbard. You know, bully for you, slavery for everybody.

No, I don't think that's going to work out. I can answer the question. Go ahead, Cecil. Because they lived in the fucking Iron Age. That's why. That's why they didn't condemn it, you dumb motherfucker. That's why. I mean, you look at this image of this guy. You know, you can't

get more hillbilly than standing behind that Confederate flag with that gray-ass, big old stash beard he's got and looking at, you know, kind of looking sort of sideways inbred at the camera there. You can't get more Billy than this dude. And, and really, you know, he's talking

about, you know, why was it so awful? Basically the, you know, it was around before, uh, you know, slavery was around and then government came and took our rights away. And I was having a conversation, Tom, recently with someone who's a Ph.D. in theology. And we were having this conversation. And we were having a conversation about religious fundamentalism. And he was talking about religious fundamentalism, especially like the Ten Commandments, he was saying. He's like, the Ten Commandments are absurd if you are a believer in Jesus. He's like the Ten Commandments are absurd if you are a believer in Jesus. He's like because in a couple of places in the Bible, Jesus basically says there's only two commandments.

And I'm going to read them. Basically, there's one in Matthew and there's one in Mark. And I'm going to read the one in Matthew. It says, love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and all your mind. That is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is love your neighbor as yourself. And the law of the prophets hang on these two commandments. So he's basically said all the other ones, the ones that we talked about earlier, get rid of them. These two are the most important.

So all these people that fucking go back to Leviticus, all these people that go back to the 10 commandments, like you're not even following your fucking, the, the prophet that you, you chose to follow. I hear that. I hear what you're saying. I hear you. But part of me thinks like, if I were, if I were in charge of the Christian faith, right. And it's a good thing. I'm not for a lot of people. But why would you even – why wouldn't you just be like, oh, those books don't work anymore? Bloop. Like, chuck them in the river. We don't need them. Get rid of them.

Delete them. Yeah. Why even invite the confusion? Yeah. You know, it's like, well, then Jesus came and said not it to all that other stuff. You'd be like, oh, not it? Said Jesus? Well, then get rid of it.

Get rid of all that shit in the way. Like, instead it's like, well, not it? Said Jesus? Well, then get rid of it. Don't throw that shit in the way. Instead, it's like, well, we're going to keep it, and you should really read it, but you shouldn't listen to it or pay attention to it, because later it'll be contradicted. Yeah. Like, wait, that's just inviting confusion from people with beards like this.

Look at the beard on this man. You cannot look at the beard on this man and think, that is a guy with an IQ over 74. You can't. Look at the way he's dressed. Look at his suit jacket and his tie. Tom, he looks like the guy from Silence of the Lambs with a beard. I mean, that's what he looks like. But, you know, let's take this back to what he's saying when he's saying, you know, why isn't slavery okay? And you say, OK, well, you just talked about Jesus. Well, what did Jesus say in your fucking book, dummy?

I'm fucking reading it right out of your book. Love your neighbor as yourself. So unless you're into fucking bondage and slavery, you can't fucking have slavery and love your neighbor as yourself. It's impossible. Dumb fuck with a beard. Right. Yeah, the two are obviously mutually incompatible. They can't coincide.

Yeah, so when he says, why isn't Jesus against slavery? My answer to him is, one, he is dummy, and two, it's an Iron Age fucking book. Well, when you put it that way, it sounds almost like this is a bad argument. I mean, this is clearly a guy who picks and chooses. We've talked about this on any number of occasions. He's a pick and chooser. He's obviously picked and chosen which flags he wants to pose next to. Fucking A, he does.

You know, and he clearly picked that tie, although I can't figure out why you would pick that tie. When you have the Confederate – I mean the Confederate flag to me, people are always like, oh, it's about rebellion. It's about rebellion. It's about rebellion against this. No, it's about fucking – it's about being a hillbilly. Yes. It's about thinking that blacks are inferior. That is what it's about.

Don't fucking kid yourself. Don't pretend that it's about something else of course it you know and even if you were to say well you know i it's been uh reincorporated into this sort of southern pride mantra you know and it has nothing to do with uh the confederacy that's nonsense obviously but even if you were to go with that at some point you just need to recognize this does not make me look good. Right. Right?

Like you've got to manage your image. I don't care who you are. Even just a regular person walking down the street, right? We all manage our image. You know, I don't walk down the street in a Speedo on a hot summer day. Maybe it would be more comfortable for me. Thank goodness, though. But my God.

My God. I manage my image a little better than that. At some point, you have to recognize, like, this is going to make me seem to be a dumb fuck hillbilly. And unless my perception that I'm trying to give to the world about who I am,

unless I'm trying to say I am a fucking dumb piece of shit, if that's the perception you want to give the world Fair or unfair Then stand by your confederate flag You dumbass But if you want people to take you seriously

If you want people to look at you Standing at a podium and think That's a man who's got ideas I want to listen to Then you fucking ditch the confederate flag My god you may as well be Wearing bib overalls And a John Deere cap then you'd fucking ditch the confederate flag my god you may as well be like be wearing like bib overalls and a john deere cap and like with a gun slung over your shoulder you could not look worse right now he might as well be punching some white dude in blackface right you know what i mean

like like really like there's there's some and and and again just like the people who were fucking hanging chairs a couple weeks ago to show like you you know, their their dissent for Obama, when really what they're saying is I'm a racist fuck who remembers that we used to lynch black people in this country. The same thing applies here. You're identifying yourself. So, you know, more power to you makes me not want to makes me not want to vote for you to it makes me want to stare clear. me not one it makes me not want to vote for you too it makes me want to stare clear you makes me want to just make sure that i never see you never talk to you never associate with you on any single level i don't care what it is i don't even want to be behind you in traffic so cognitive dissonance has a brand new sponsor we've got a sponsor in audible for those of you not familiar with audible audible is the internet's leading provider of spoken audio entertainment, information, and educational programming. Audible offers over 100,000 hours of audio programs from 270 content providers that include leading audiobook publishers, broadcasters, entertainers, magazine and newspaper publishers, podcasters, and business information providers.

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Yeah, I've actually listened to that book twice. Beats reading. I've listened to that book twice and I've enjoyed it both times. And you're right. Having the author read, that does lend something to some books. Not all of them. Yeah, no, for sure. For sure. But in this particular case, Hitchens, he's a little hard to get used to at first, especially for an American like me. There was times where I thought he was talking a little fast,

but his punchlines and how he delivers them, I think is unique. And it's a great book. Deliverism, I think, is unique, and it's a great book. This story is from Huffington Post. This guy's name is awesome. I'm going to mispronounce it for fun. Charlie Fuqua, Arkansas legislative candidate, endorses death penalty for rebellious children in his book, God's Law, the Only Political Solution. God's law, the only political solution. I've got to just point out that when you're writing a book about only solutions or final solutions, maybe your editor ought to chime in and be like, hey, this is creepy as fuck. Also, you endorse killing children.

There are some parallels here here which make me uncomfortable. Very uncomfortable. I think it's great. I think, you know, this is the way in which to get children to behave. I mean, I'm not a parent, right? So it doesn't affect me at all. You know, you want to make sure

that kids behave, you start killing them one by one. Right. Because that totally works for people who are going to kill people. That totally works for people who are going to kill people. That totally works for people who are going to, you know, be involved in torture and kidnapping and all those things that we may or may not kill you for in this country. Even just prison in general.

You know what I mean? Like punitive punishment stops crime and stops people from misbehaving. Tom, it's a fact. That's why we have no crime. That's why there's a 0% crime rate in this country. We have one of the largest populations of people currently incarcerated and then anywhere in the world. Anywhere in the world from a percentage standpoint and from a numerical standpoint. We've got an incredible number of people incarcerated and that's why we have a 0% crime rate in the States.

It's also, and take fucking note. All of us are incarcerated. We're all incarcerated. And take fucking note, because this is also why they don't have any homosexuals in Iran, because they killed them all. Yeah, no kidding. It's so awesome. It's like, that's how you get them to listen to you?

Like, you kill one of them? That'll teach them. You know, the kids don't even know. Like, what do you get, a five-year-old who fucking wrote with marker on the wall? Sorry, little Jimmy, I got to shoot you in the face. Like, all he did was write with marker on the wall. I understand. It's going to put you through some fucking, you know, you're going to be angry with your kid. You know, I get it.

But that doesn't mean you should pick them up and shake them until they die. This is, you know, what he's saying, he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Look, I'm not saying you can just up and kill your kid. No, come on now. What I'm saying is you should take them to a judge. If they're going to kill your kid, you should be able to kill your kid. But he's like, he like qualifies. He's like, whoa, whoa, don't get crazy.

Don't get crazy. This passage does not give parents blanket authority to kill their children. I'm reading that and I'm thinking like, whoo. What do you mean blanket? Like you could smother them under a blanket then? Is that what he means? As if children are like – as if parents rather are like, man, if only I had a blanket authority to kill my children. Now instead I have to feed them and

clothe them and love them unconditionally no it goes on he says they must follow the proper procedure in order to have the death penalty executed against their children what what fucking defective human being is going to say, you know, I'm going to file, you know, fucking markers again. That's it. There's procedures for this motherfucker. That's it. I'm hauling you into court. I'm going to stand in front of a judge and I'm going to say he disrespected me.

He was rebellious in my house and we have to kill him. Judge, we've got, and some judge is supposed to stand there and say, oh, yeah, he does sound like a little shit. Let's not give him a chance to grow up and mature. Let's fucking kill him. So he can serve as an object lesson to other children? Yeah, and again, like if you're four and five years old, what are you, watching the nightly news? You're like, oh, I better watch the nightly news, see how many kids got killed today to see if I'm going to fucking piss my parents off.

And are you getting made fun of by the other parents who put their children to death because you coddle your kid and didn't put him to death? Right. All you did was beat him with hot irons. You're not a real parent. Your parenting is a breeze yeah oh man you must be one of those love your children parents what are you some kind of fucking hippie i mean what kind of fucking last resort parenting is this too like all i read this and i'm thinking of the ned flanders you know know, from The Simpsons. At one point, his parents drop him off like with the reverend or somebody.

And they're like, hey, we don't believe in rules, man. I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas. I hear that playing in my head all the time. Like, I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas. Kill the kids. And is this this guy is like a fucking you know a legislative candidate in arkansas a legislative candidate really i really somebody had to say that's our guy somebody hears this guy talk somebody picks

up this guy's book and is like, hmm, yes. Could you imagine the debate? How do you get past that one point? The moderator would be like, can we please move on? Be like, no, motherfucker. We got to finish this. This fucking guy is an idiot. Why do we even need to continue the debate?

This is what he wrote down. This is what he thinks. He thinks kids should be put to death. Can we just fucking get this over right now? Show of hands style. Right. No kidding. Like raise your hand if you were ever a kid or if you currently have kids.

Oh, that's every single person. Raise your hand if you as a kid or your kids were ever rebellious. Oh, a lot of hands still in the air. Yeah. Going to kill y'all retroactively. There's no statute of limitations on this, motherfucker. No statute of limitations on misbehaving. Right.

And how would that, that's actually another, like that's, you know, the Bible doesn't have a statute of limitations. So could my dad come back to me and be like, listen, boy, no, you've been out of the house a long time. But, uh. I disagree with how you keep your lawn. I'm gonna go ahead and... Like, at what point can you just be like,

Whoa, Dad. Dad, that was a long time ago, man. We're cool. We're cool. Ah! Killed me. Killed me? You seriously read a book that says you should, like, Parents should kill disobedient children,

And you nod your head thinking, Well, that's my God. Yeah, oh yeah, that's the one. That's the guy. Zero! that says parents should kill disobedient children and you nod your head thinking, well, that's my God. Yeah, oh yeah, that's the one. That's the guy. You're all sick! Oh, be nice! Oh, my son doesn't stand a chance.

The whole world's gone gay! Oh my God, what's happening now? We work hard. We play hard. Oh my God! Everybody dance now! This is from Gay. card. We play hard. This is from Gay.AmericaBlog.com Religious Right attacks astronaut Sally Ride for being

a lesbian. According to I can't even say it. According to the Family Research Council, the American Family Association and Concerned Women for America, Sally Ride may have developed cancer because she was a lesbian. So she may have gotten cancer of the lesbian. I don't know if that's a thing. I'm not a doctor, so I'm not sure if you can get cancer in your lesbian.

Yeah, you can. You can get it in there. Yeah. It's like bone marrow cancer. It's like, oh, where's that? Oh, it's in the bone marrow. What's she got? Yeah, you can. You can get it in there. Yeah. It's like bone marrow cancer. It's like, oh, where's that? Oh, it's in the bone marrow. Oh, what's she got? Oh, lesbian cancer.

What's in the lesbian? That's where it goes. This is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. And it's, you know, you read this article and there's parts of it where you're just like, they really thought that. One of the things there's a part where they're talking about exterminating homosexuals. And I'm going to read directly from this article. At the 18, it's more 18, should be 18. At the 1985 Conservative Political Action Conference, Cameron, and this is Paul Cameron, the Family Research Institute's leader,

Paul Cameron, the Family Research Institute's leader, Cameron announced to all the attendees, unless we get medically lucky in three or four years, one of the options discussed willated the tattooing of AIDS patients on the face so that people would know that they were if they were meeting an infected person. The penalty for trying to hide the tattoo would be banishment to the Hawaiian islands of Molokai. I don't even know if I'm pronouncing that correctly. A former leper colony. In the event that a vaccine were developed to prevent AIDS, Cameron has proposed that homosexuals be castrated to prevent them from cheating on nature. He seems like a good guy. This is a guy who would kill his child. Free Hawaiian vacation.

It would be a gay paradise. You got to love it. It's so obvious. We're just going to send you to Hawaii. I'd be like, yeah, we're gonna send you, you know, we're just gonna send you to Hawaii. I'd be like, fucking, um, I got AIDS. Can I go to Hawaii? I know, right? Like, the Native Americans are like,

wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. You gave me a fucking dry, arid wasteland? Give the homosexuals Hawaii? I mean, yeah, you got to get a face tattoo. Yeah, whatever, though. You know, the reason, the thing is, is if you hide it, they banish you. So just don't get it.

Just be like, yeah, whatever. Oh, I have AIDS. No, I didn't get the tattoo. I just want the trip. Right. You're like coloring yourself with permanent marker, but badly. So it looks like you're hiding it. And they're just like, they're sending me to Hawaii.

And I'm going to wash my face. All I have to do is crayola my face. Right. Like Mike Tyson's scared. He's just like, oh, shit. He's like, I don't have AIDS. I'm going to punch the family research council. I'm going to punch the white blood cells.

I'm going to fight them. And they said about Sally Ride, they're like, look, look, we went through all the obituaries. Because that's how science is done. And we looked for lesbians that died early. And we concluded that she may have died early because she's a lesbian that is not a that's not thinking man that's not how thinking works well it's thinking it's just it's just thinking wrongly like that's um it's the it's correlation does not imply causation, I think. Whatever.

I don't know. Fucking logical fallacies. Call fucking skeptics with a K. They'll know which one it was. Yeah, this is – they say like, well, most women live to be in their 80s. And she didn't. So there had to be a reason. Maybe it's because she's a lesbian.

That's just how statistics work. Some people live longer than 80. Some people do not live to be 80. That is an average age. That's not like a minimum unless you fuck up. You're not guaranteed. It's not like fucking Logan's Run where we all have a fucking little blinking dot on our hand that turns when we turn a certain age and we get killed. That's not how it works.

You just live out your lifespan. And if your lifespan happens to be 60, then your lifespan is 60. But the thing is, is the people who are going to believe this, Tom, the people who they're going to say this to, and that are going to believe it, those people, you don't need to have facts or

even logic on your side. They're just going to be like, yep, them gays live shorter lives. The Family Research Institute researched it. How would that prevent somebody from being gay? What is the purpose of that anyway, other than just to say, here is fuel for a fire of hate? Yeah, I don't know. Do you not be gay because of your lifespan? I can't imagine. Imagine if somebody said, Cecil, do you not be gay because of your lifespan? I can't imagine. Imagine if somebody said, Cecil, if you stop being heterosexual, you get to live longer. Would you stop being heterosexual? You wouldn't stop being heterosexual because it's just, you'd be like, I'm just not attracted to, I can't do that.

Yeah, I mean, shit, I remember when I was a kid and it'd be like, yeah, you better stop smoking. You're going to have a shorter lifespan. I smoked for almost 20 years. That didn't fucking affect me at all. I wasn't like, oh man, I should fucking quit smoking. You know, the moment somebody said that to me, I didn't die the cigarette out. Right. Oh geez. I hadn't thought of that. Yeah. The reason I stopped smoking because it went up to $3 a pack. That's why I stopped smoking. I stopped for economic issues, not for health concerns. You know, like that's that.

So that doesn't even make any sense to say. But again, it's just but what it's saying is, is that it's like an unclean lifestyle or it's right. Exactly. It's this is a God's punishment or whatever you want to put on it, because because it's a fucking pick and choose way to to say that they're bad. Well, boys and girls, put your hand up if you've heard of the word evolution so this is from the blaze.com which is owned by glenn beck i can't even believe that gop congressman calls evolution and the big bang theory quote lies straight from the pit of hell for fuck's sake man be more out of touch that's all i'm asking you to do is just

to be more out of touch gop congressman from georgia by the way not saying it's a southern state how are these people in office or trying to be in office tom i mean really this is a it's terrifying election season is the time when you find out about the craziest shit that people say. I know. And here's something this guy said.

He said, I'm quoting directly from The Blaze. What I've come to learn is that it is a manufacturer's handbook. And he's talking about the Bible is what I call it, he said. It teaches us how to run our

lives individually, how to run our families, how to run our churches, and it teaches us how to run all the public policy and everything in society. And that's the reason, as your congressman, I hold the Bible as being the major directions to me of how I vote in Washington, D.C., and I will continue to do that. This guy needs to be fucking unelected. This guy needs to get the fuck out of office because he's fucking, you know, like, like Leviticus is your public policy. That's how you look at public policy. This guy is a medical doctor who sits on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology.

And he doesn't respect science the earth is about 9 000 years old he believes in a pit of hell like i can't think of touche you've won this round tom you some point you're like where'd that come from uh what uh embryology oh that came from hell the pit of hell actually not the not the top no no the top part that's where like alligators i don't well yeah but a pit has sides right i mean it's got a it's got a slope because like the really bad shit like like evolution goes down in the bottom it's like saying it came from the hill of hill like right you know it doesn't make any sense right well it's it's like the everest of the mountains you know it's like well it's still pretty high up there but it's not yeah it's like mosquitoes are toward the middle

in there and then you know like homework on a friday is somewhere toward the top you know it's annoying but it's not really truly evil but embryology that's way down at the bottom that's like that's like in satan bottom. That's like in Satan's toilet. That's like, right? It's got like a big fucking Satan poo sitting right on top of it. It's that far down. How is this guy on a science committee? Who did he have to kill to get on the science committee?

Yeah, seriously, though. When you think the world is fucking 9,000 years old and you're running things in this country and, you know, like, like people are like, well, science doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Like what he believes in science. It matters how he runs the country. It's like, well, a lot of, you know, a lot of the way you think is informing your decisions on other things. And if you think that the fucking, that fucking book of fiction, that the myth you're holding in your hand is the fucking little is our little rule book you're doing all of the things wrong that you're supposed to be doing in government all of them wrong you haven't done a single thing right you're probably sitting in your chair on your head well you know it's all lies quote to try

to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior. Wow. Wow. You think that the basics for all biology, like the fucking keystone to biological understanding and research, is a lie to prevent people from thinking they need a savior? You're a doctor. People are going to go to you and need a help. And you're going to need to apply scientific principles in order to help them. I'm always shocked, Tom, when those people are doctors and they're like,

I don't understand that. Did it just fucking wash over you? Did you just go into class and put in earplugs when they were talking about all those things that go into scientific approach to medicine? Did that all just fucking... Like, because how do they even approach medicine? How do you... There's a lot of science, obviously.

And to get your degree, to walk out of there, you've got to take a fucking ass-ton of science. An ass-ton of all the sciences. You've got to take chemistry, organic the sciences. You got to take chemistry, organic chemistry. You got to take biology, physiology, anatomy. You've got to take, you know, a tremendous amount of just basic science classes. And that's just in the pre-med portion. And then once you get to med school, obviously there's just a fucking ass ton on top of that. So to go through all of that and walk away without a respect for the process, just to be like, but I got this book and it's so good and it's just one of them.

And I know I read like 40 others and I can go to the lab and verify that. But this one, this one's in every hotel. So clearly winner here. Yeah, absolutely. So we're going to take a quick break, give you some information on how you can contact us through all the various methods that we are available. And we'll be right back after this. Want to contact Cognitive Dissonance? Visit them on Facebook.

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if you do just remember consensual sex can turn into rape in an awful hurry because all of a sudden a young lady gets pregnant and the parents are madder than a wet hen she's not gonna say she's not gonna say it's good old barnyard wisdom she's not not going to say, oh, yeah, I was part of the program. All that she has to say or the parents have to say is it was rape because she's underage. And he just said, remember, Roger, if you go down that road, some girls, he said, they rape so easy. Oh, my God. You know, some bikes steal easy, too, Tom.

This is an interesting episode, Cecil, because we have, like, worst person of the week is tough to come by. Oh, my gosh. There's no way. You know, like, if this were your religiosophy, who would be your skunk dick? You would not be able to skunk dick. You'd be like, everybody's a skunk dick. They're all skunk dicks. Skunk dicks.

Skunk dicks all around. It's a skunk dick circle jerk. They're just shooting scent on one another. I really just, I mean, when you hear what this person has to say, you're like, okay, you're a scumbag. The very concept that some girls rape so easy, I mean, how did that even come out of your mouth? And you're quoting your dear old daddy? Right. Your dad gave you the worst sex talk ever.

I'm kidding, right? Like, this is the worst birds and the bees ever. See, when a guy really, really, really wants to have sex with a girl, he'll rape her. When an underage girl and an older man love each other very, very kind of. Wait, what, Dad? And he rapes her forcibly. Then

she says it's rape, and then you're in trouble for that, because the parents are a wet head. I don't know how to sandwich. What? I love that. Matter to wet head. Got a sandwich. What? I love that. Matter to Wet Head. Wet Head. Woo-hoo. Got a hound in the hen house.

Ming-ning-da-ling-ding-ding-doo. What a piece of human debris. Fucking Wet Head. What the fuck is wrong with you? Oh, man. Oh, shit. Fucking. I mean, really.

You know, like, this is a guy who learned how to fuck by watching horses do it. Right. You know? Like, he watched the bull muscle his way onto, you know, the cow, and he's like, yep, that's how you're going to have to do it, son. Some cows, they just rape easy. You got to get yourself a practice sheep now. Let's go ahead and pick out a pretty one. Got to get one with some good grabbing handles on that fur now because they'll try to throw

you off. I like that little chubby one over there. She's quick. I like that little chubby one over there She's quick You know why it's eight seconds in a rodeo Don't you boy He's such a bad person He's really such a terrible human being

And his dad is so terrible And he's such a shithead He doesn being. And his dad is so terrible. And he's such a shithead. He doesn't even know his dad is fucking terrible. Like, at some point, you know, like, everybody has, like, probably, like, you just, at some point you realize that some, like, my dad gave me bad advice on that. Like, I love my dad. He's a great guy. But every now and again, I'll think back and be like, my dad wasn't right about that subject.

But it's never been like how girls are raped. Well, and then it's never been in the public sphere either. Like, nobody's ever asked you. Been like, what did your dear old daddy say about fucking raping girls? Well, let me tell you what my dad said. Am I on the record?

Because I'd like to see this on the record. Dad'll be proud. Hey, Dad, did you read my quote in the paper? I remember that thing you said when we was out naked in the backyard. If you're involved in the gay and lesbian lifestyle it's bondage it is personal bondage personal despair and personal enslavement and that's why this is so dangerous it's a very sad life it's part of satan i think to say that this is gay it's anything but gay this story is from

gay star news because some stars just love other stars canada gay cure doctor arrested for sexually assaulting men a canadian psychiatrist to stand trial for sexually assaulting gay patients he also used discredited aversion therapy on hundreds of south african lesbians and gays army conscripts to cure them of their sexuality, it clearly doesn't work for you. This guy's head should explode. Well, and this is exactly what happens, right, when these guys are so against homosexuals that what do they do? Well, they're gays that are so self-loathing

that they're trying to cure these other gays. But this guy clearly can't even stop himself from diddling his fucking patients. Right. And these were prisoners. These were prisoners. You know, these are people, he's like, he's not only a hypocrite. He's not only doing damage to the homosexual community, of which he is a member, whether he wants to admit it or not.

Yeah, whether he wants to admit it or not. He's not only damaging a community, he's not only damaging a community he fucking belongs to, but then he's preying on an at-risk group of people, prisoners, who have limited access to resources and limited rights. He's just, again, a terrible human being. You know, again, another skunk dick. Here we go. He's fucking in the running here. And, you know, this guy will give that skunk dick a handy.

Right. All while lecturing him about the evils of homosexuality, right? He's like, okay, okay, come on my face now. This is bad. Don't do this. This is bad. You're not supposed to do this. Yeah, don't worry.

I'll rub it in. It's cool. Don't, you know, I'm good with that. With anybody else, but it's our little secret. Here's your Snickers bar. God damn. But this is always a Lady Dolph protest too much, you know. Yeah.

Every time. It is. And the therapy that they give these people, I mean, there's abuse. Oh, absolutely. It's abuse. Wasn't he shocking people at some point yes yeah that's that's not a treatment for homosexuality like you can't just you can't just zap the gay on people it's not an energizer buddy that's not how it works it's not it's you

know at some point you just want to say to people, like, this isn't TV. If somebody loses their memory from getting hit on the head, you don't hit them on the head again. Like, that's – you don't cure homosexuality by, like, zapping it out of them. You don't cure it. There's nothing wrong with them. I'm shocked that this happened in Canada. In Canada. Yeah, I know. Well, you know, the thing is, is that a lot of these religious organizations, they have sway and can get this sort of therapy.

There's only one state now. Right. In our in the United States that that doesn't allow this sort of thing. So you can get therapy. Right. For being gay in our country, too. So, you know, it happening in Canada isn't a big surprise. It's like, you know, you can do this sort of thing in other places under the guise of religion you know and and this guy also uh

performed chemical castration on people that's that shit's fucking permanent in some cases permanent it's like well i'm just gonna ruin you physically and emotionally that's fucking ridiculous that's a great guy. Yeah, awesome. You want answers? I think I'm entitled to them. You want answers! I want the truth!

You can't handle the truth! Cecil, I've got to ask you a question. When you were a kid, did you ever read Highlights magazine? Highlights? Did you ever read Highlights? Emphasis on lights? I read Highlights. I also read Zoo Books.

Yeah? I'm glad I didn't grow up in Tunisia because according to the BBC News, Tunisia children's magazine prints petrol bomb guide. Is it a connect the dots? Is that how you figure out? What the fuck's in the word jumble? Connect the dots on these flaming bystanders. You're connecting the dots and they just end at the neck because they're all beheaded.

You're just like, oh. It's like color by numbers but they're all fire colors. Right, it's all red. It's just red. Pools of blood. Red, yellow, orange. That's it. That's all you have to do. It's a real easy watercolor. Can you imagine the editors sitting around the table like, okay,

so we need a word jumble and a scramble. We need to tell the kids about some sort of animal. And then we're also going to need a project that their parents can help them put together. Like an arts and crafts. Like Molotov cocktails. Yeah, let's do Molotov cocktails because if it goes right, they commit arson. And if it goes wrong, they catch on fire. Sure, sure.

Yeah, well, it's better than the nail bomb issue. Right. The nail bomb issue sold out very quickly in parts of the world. Yeah, that was a good one. It was a hit. It was explosive sales on that one. Explosive sales. Boom, it's off the shelves.

The kids were dying to get them. Terrible. That's terrible. I love the idea that you're, you know, you break out your magazines. You know, like when I was a kid, it was like how to make a paper bag puppet. And this is in their magazine's

knowledge corner. It's in their knowledge corner. How to make a petrol bomb because god hates infidels they probably have a section like the little little misogynist corner too right yeah i'm sure it's like you know get started now beat your prospective wife here's how to order i don't know it's what and that's like what's how to order. I don't know. What's in the back of this magazine? In the back of Boy's Life.

I got Boy's Life because I was a Cub Scout and a Weeblow and what have you. Weeblow? Wait a minute. Yeah, I know. I know. But I got Boy's Life. I think in the back of it, you could buy x-ray specs and you could buy, you know, what's in the back of this thing? Oh, mom, I saved up 40 coupons from my fucking Campbell's soup. Can I get an AK-47?

My Campbell's soup. Sorry, it's 45 Campbell's soup labels. Yeah. What do you think I'm made of Campbell's soup labels? Campbell's soup labels don't grow on trees around here. You can't get your AK-47. You're like sitting outside waiting for it to come like your fucking Dakota ring from the Christmas story.

The guy comes by and just shoves it halfway into your mailbox. It's wrapped, but it looks exactly like an AK-47. It's just like cramming it in your mailbox while the kid's dancing back and forth. It's been six to eight weeks. I'm so excited. I'm all out of petrol bombs. The complaints from the parents must have been awesome. Yeah.

Fucking evil magazine hotline. Yeah. I'm on fire. All my kids are on fire again. Can you revise knowledge corner to be first aid corner? Sir, all you have to do is take the magazine away from them and fan the flames. So we got a voicemail. Tom, I'm not going to play the whole thing because the gentleman leaves his number

for us to call him. So I don't want to play the whole thing, but I will play part of it. And we can't do the Google Voice translation because Google Voice had the translation unavailable. But I want to play the voicemail now. Hey, guys. This is Jason in Chicago.

I finally got through your library, and I love the show. I just want to say thank you very much. Listen, I live in Chicago in Lakeview, and I believe one of you lives in the area. and I believe one of you lives in the area. You know, I thought it was a great idea that Dillahunty kind of, they do their weekly meetup or how often they do the show at a local restaurant.

And I didn't know if that was something you guys would ever be interested in and getting local people together and, you know, just discussing topics and stuff like that. I know you both have wives. You're probably very busy, but it's just an idea.

We want to thank Jason for sending the voicemail in. Jason, just so you know, I am planning on attending something locally very soon in Chicago at DePaul's Lincoln Park campus on Carl Sagan Day. There is going to be a speaker for Carl Sagan's Day there. I'm going to be going to that. There's a couple other Chicago skeptics that are going to be going to that. So if the Chicago skeptics come out, I know I will probably be there. A couple other people that are fans of the show will be there. Just to sort of show support to Carl Sagan Day.

I know that you said to show up and do stuff after shows and whatnot, but it's totally different with the Atheist Experience because they have a live show and they can be like, hey, we're all going to the thing afterwards and then they can do it. With Tom and I, it's like we're recording this right now. It's 1045 Midwestern time on Thursday evening. And that's not a conducive time for either of us to go out and get a drink. Right. And we're separated by 30 some miles. Yeah.

We do this over Skype. We don't do this in the same room. So yeah, it's kind of difficult. But we appreciate it. Whenever we go out, though, into the public sphere, though, we'll let you know. And I know that Tom and I both really want to do more Chicago Skeptic things. There's a skeptic group. We want to get more involved with it.

This is just my first attempt to get involved with it. And there's going to be more in the future. And whenever we show up places, we'll let you guys know so we can have those discussions that you guys are looking forward to. So we got an email from John. John had recently left the Christian faith. The Christian, he says he's not an atheist, but he's sort of left the church, and he sent us a letter that he sent along to his pastor. And we want to thank you, John, for sending that along to us. We read it, and we both thought it was great. So good luck on the new, I guess, denomination change.

Yeah, and I thought your letter was very well put together. And I'm curious if you got a response, so let us know. We got an email from Mitch in South Carolina, Tom. South Carolina is chiming in, and we definitely, I think, took a couple blows at the South this time. So we want to say thanks to Mitch from South Carolina. He said he found us, Tom, on The Atheist Experience. I discovered your podcast through The Atheist Experience. He says, Mitch, we just want to know how.

Yeah, I appreciate that you found the show. Thank you for listening. We're always curious to find out how people, like what avenues people come to the show by because that helps us reach out and do things to try to get the show exposed to other people. If you heard about it through the Atheist Experience, I am very curious too. Yeah. How'd that work? Yeah. And then we also like to reach out too to those people and thank them and also try to help them out too in any way we can. So if you found us in an interesting way, let us know.

Mitch, let us know how the atheist experience turned you on to us. We got an email from Nick from London, Tom. We did. I like Nick's email. He says, and it's did. I like Nick's email. He says, and it's short, so I'll read it. He says,

funny how they shut down the wizard healers, but the main response in your country to addiction is to court mandate people to attend a 12-step group. Actually, our main step is just to throw their ass in jail.

Put them in a drug court. Right. An organization that says addiction is a disease and the only cure is belief in God. Let me repeat that drug abuse is caused by moral defect, which can only be cured by confession in God and being entirely controlled by your invisible friend. This is the way the state mandates a cure for disease through faith healing.

It's an interesting point that you bring up, Nick. Thank you very much for the email. Yeah. They'll just throw you out in prison. I mean that's how we deal with addicts. A lot of addicts wind up there because they don't get arrested for the addiction. They get arrested for all the things that we don't provide to help them deal with the addiction. Absolutely. So they get arrested for the stealing or the extortion, whatever they do to get a hold of those drugs because we don't bother to treat addiction in this country. I saw a graph today, Tom. It was just amazing.

It showed that since 1970, drug addiction rates have remained around 1 percent. But our spending on the war on drugs has topped over $1.5 trillion. So that will tell you something about what the war on drugs is doing. All it is doing is taking money out of the American people's pockets and just spending it willy nilly. Yeah. And it's incarcerating people for no fucking reason. For no reason at all.

We have a huge drug population, population in prison now because of it. And it's, it's a ridiculous idea. I, you know, they need to start really paying attention to drug laws and start lessening sentences and start getting people treatment. Stop spending money feeding and housing these people and start spending money paying for treatment that actually works. Yeah, no kidding. Nonviolent, victimless crimes like drug possession. Fuck that noise. You're going to go to fucking jail for that? Yeah.

Give me a break. I don't want to pay for it. That's a ticket. I don't, you know, I'll be honest. I really don't even care what the drug is. Yeah, I don't either. Why is it even a ticket? It's like, I have a thing.

Okay, well, are you committing any crimes? No. I don't care that you got the thing. What do I care? Yeah, you know what? You're right. Yeah, absolutely. You're right.

If you're stealing, we have a law to cover that. If you're driving crazily or under the influence, we've got laws to cover that. Why do I care that you enjoy or don't enjoy? What do I care? It makes no difference to me. We got an email, Tom, from our biggest fans, Marvin and Noreen. Marvin and Noreen braved terrible shirts back in the day. They took a picture of it and sent it to us. It was very nice of them to do.

They just took a screenshot of their phone and said they got a friend of theirs, I think someone by the name of Chris, to listen to our show. They're sort of infecting people with our show. We want to thank Marvin and Noreen. They said they're looking forward to getting new T-shirts from the new company. I did want to say, you know, if you – I mean I would love to somehow replace those shirts, but, you know, we're not made of money, so we're not going to do it. But the thought is what counts. If the thought is what counts, I would replace those shirts if I could.

But if you're interested in getting shirts, remember that we have brand new T-shirts. All you need to do is go to our website. On our website's main page, there's buy our merchandise. You can click that image, and it will take you to our indie merch store. You can also do it on Facebook. There's a store tab at the very top of the page. And we have white and black shirts in both boys and girls now. So the men have their sort of round barrel shirts and the women have their nice form-fitting boobie shirts. And they're American apparel evidently.

So the women's shirts are a little more expensive. We get the same cut. It's just that because the shirt quality I guess is higher and the women's shirts have to be like fitted to boobies and such. We have women's and men's shirts up available now. And it's a great way to support the show. Tom and I see a significant portion of that money. So if you're looking to buy a thing and would like to support the show, you get a thing and you support the show at the same time. It's a win-win.

We want to say hi to – this is, I think, our first email from Poland, and this is Camille. Camille? I don't know. I don't know. It's that person from Poland. It's our Polish listener. Our Polish listener found us through Andy Wilson's Incredulous podcast. We've gotten a couple of emails from people who found us from Incredulous.

Thank you for listening. We're glad to have you as a listener. Yeah, and I want to say something too. You know, Tom, I look at our numbers, and our numbers in the United States and in Canada, you know, they're substantial. You start looking at the other countries that are getting this podcast. UK is up there. Australia is up there.

New Zealand is up there. You know who's like number three? Is Sweden. Crazy. I haven't heard from a single Swede. How can we have such a vocal contingent in New Zealand where the population is like – Right. I mean New Zealand, there's like 12 people in New Zealand.

Yeah. Maybe that – I mean it's Mordor for God's sake. No kidding, right? We have listeners in Mordor. Sweden, we need to hear from you. Yeah, we haven't heard anything from Sweden, but we want to thank Central Poland or Central Europe and Poland. We love to get emails from new places, so that's great. Thank you very much for sending it. Poland. We love to get emails from new places, so that's great. Thank you very much for sending it. And also Central Europe, but hey, how about Central America, Nebraska? Willard sends an email. We want to thank you, Willard, for sending an email. Now, he talks about how our music,

which is not our music, it's called Adrenaline Electronica, I think is what it's called. It's free music that you can use. It's basically pod-safe music. I think it was included in either GarageBand or Pro Tools or something like that. I've gotten it in the past, so it's a free music, the

theme music we use. It was used in a commercial for Ruger Rifles. Yeah, I think that's awesome. I think that's great, too. used in a commercial for Ruger rifles. Yeah, I think that's awesome. Especially because I own a Ruger. You do own a Ruger. Don't you own... Oh, you did own two. You owned two for a while. Briefly. Briefly. We also want to say

hello to South Africa and Brett. It's pretty cool that somebody from South Africa is contacting us. Yeah, that's kind of awesome because we now clearly have six of the seven continents. Yeah. You know, like if I could get like a researcher in Antarctica, I could die happy. Yeah, that would be awesome.

Somebody's just going to lie now, Tom. I know. I know. We're going to get it. Totally. I'm researching John Carpenter's The Thing, you know. Hello. I am a penguin.

All of our penguin listeners say hello. I hope somebody sends us a picture with them with like a strapped on beak on their face. Be like, yes, I am a penguin. I am an arctic. Got to go. Killer whales are back. Yeah.

They're in like a tuxedo with a fake beak. That'd be awesome. So we want to thank everybody for listening again. We want to thank our sponsor one more time, Audible. Remember that if you want to support the show, you can always go to audiblepodcast.com forward slash dissonance pod. Download your free audio book. The more people who do this, the more Audible will come back to us month after month to sponsor our show. So if you're interested in helping out the show, that's one way to do it. So Tom, this wraps up

another very, very, very mediocre episode. And we will leave you as usual with the Skeptic's Creed. And we will leave you as usual with the Skeptic's Creed. Credulity is not a virtue. It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue, hypno-Babylon bullshit. Couched in scientician, double bubble, toil and trouble, pseudo-quasi-alternative, acupunctuating, pressurized, stereogram, pyramidal, free energy, healing, water downward spiral, brain dead pan dead pan sales pitch late night info doc utainment leo pisces cancer cures detox reflex foot massage death and towers tarot cards psychic healing crystal balls bigfoot yeti aliens churches mosques and synagogues temples dragons giant worms

atlantis dolphins truthers birthers witches, witches, wizards, vaccine nuts, shaman healers, evangelists, conspiracy, doublespeak, stigmata, nonsense. Expose your sides. Thrust your hands. Bloody, evidential, conclusive. Doubt even this. Evidential. Conclusive. Doubt even this. The opinions and views expressed in this show are that of the hosts only.

Our poorly formed and expressed notions do not represent those of our wives, employers, friends, families, or of the local Dairy Council. We'll see you next time. you