Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 690: Not in My Back Uterus

Episode Date: May 15, 2023

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It's skeptical. It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no welcome mat. Today is Thursday, May 11th, and this is how we do it now. This is it. This is it. Ian, whatever show number this is, just say it, man. Just say it.

Is he not going to say it? He's not going to say it. He doesn't fucking know either. He's not going to do it, Tom. He doesn't know either. We're off the fucking rails with the show number. It's somewhere in the 600s, guys. We'll tell you when it rolls over into the 700s. That's all I can say.

Yeah, I mean, at this point, we'll get you to the closest 100. At this point, what's hilarious is we're going to be recording so many shows and doing so much shit that when 700 comes, we'll be like, whatever. Doesn't even matter. Won't even know.

We'll probably record it, and it'll get after the fact realize that it was 700. And gosh, to do the 700 club episode. Oh. Where we both dress like Pat Robertson.

We should do for 700. And we get like melty faces. Retrospective. And then like giant ears. And do like a leg press of a thousand pounds

or whatever. What we'll do is we'll just come into the studio and just test our leg press the entire time. That's what we'll do. We'll turn the studio lights up so we melt in front of the camera like wax dolls. That's not fraud. That's not fraud.

That is, I would call that a false advertising so a lot of news this week a lot of big news this week we've got to talk about uh this motherfucker george santos we'll talk about trump guys i promise yeah george santos pleads shockingly not guilty to fraud charges spoiler he's fucking guilty i know we're supposed to say oh he's been accused and he's supposed to hem and haw until but like there is a zero percent chance in my mind zero percent cecil that this guy is not guilty of fraud zero because he's lied about everything about everything george santos took money saying he was unemployed he He basically took unemployment, like there was a special benefit for the unemployed during the pandemic. He took special unemployment pandemic

benefits, even though he was employed and he was so employed, he was making $125,000 a year at his current job. He just filled out the form because, you know, during the height of the pandemic, there was an overwhelming amount of people who were applying for government assistance. So the government was like, look, there's no way to wade through administratively all of this stuff. So it was kind of the honor system, but it's an honor system with a lot of teeth. If you are caught lying because it's wire fraud, it's fucking wire fraud. So there were some cheats for sure. But like there weren't actually new, there weren't a lot of cheats. Most people did the right thing. This motherfucker had a six figure job. Yeah. A six figure job. And he used

that. He applied as if he was unemployed, scammed the United States government out of really the benefits that were there to help people out of unemployment during like a national fucking emergency. And then he used that money to like pay down debt, to buy luxury goods, to like just fuck around and find out. Well, I guess the finding out is now. Finding out is now.

He's definitely finding out now. And he's the kind of guy though, I think you hit it right on the head when we talked about it. You know, you mentioned it earlier. He's a liar. He's just a giant liar. And everything he does has been a lie.

All of his stories about himself, all of his stories about his family members, his whole narrative is a lie. I mean, this is a guy who said he was a Jew and then people said, no, you're not. And he said, well, I'm Jew-ish. Jew-ish. I mean, like this guy.

What does that even mean? This guy, he lied, well, I'm Jew-ish. Jew-ish. I mean, like this guy. What does that even mean? This guy, he lied about it. But don't you think that George Santos is kind of the inevitable conclusion of Republican politics since Trump? Don't you think that he is sort of- 100%. The person who recognized that if I just keep lying over and over and never admit it and always move forward that I can't be touched?

He's the Republican version of the political version of one weird trick. Yeah. He learned the one weird trick. Yeah, yeah. And the thing is that Trump taught the world that the weird trick is just keep lying. Yeah. Just keep lying. And if you get caught, lie some more, lie differently, make up another lie, keep them

spinning. They can't fact check at all. If they fact check at all, eventually everybody gets exhausted. They get fatigued. They get sort of like the shotgun approach. They get fatigued. Exactly. The difference is that like nobody really has like George Santos fever, right?

So like nobody. That's the key. And that, and I want to be very clear, particularly his romantic partners, I am quite sure, have never had George Santos fever. Never had the fever for a fever of a Santos or whatever. Nobody's ever been jonesing for George. You know what I mean? No one's ever called him up in the middle of the night, you know, just thinking about you fucking winky face, peach emoji. Eggplant, squirt, squirt.

Never. I get never, ever, ever has that happened. Like, I know, I know that he's told the American public that he's got a beautiful girlfriend in Canada and he once fingered her at Niagara Falls or whatever. But then 100%. He's also got problems in like Brazil, too. He does. He has problems in Brazil as well. Yeah, he got he got he had criminal charges in Brazil.

I forgot what those are related to, but they were fraud based. It's all fraud based. Those are related to, but they were fraud based. It's all fraud based. But he really does feel like the kind of guy who looked at the field and thought, yeah, I could do this because it clearly there has been a precedent set. You're exactly right, man.

But I think you are right that there isn't enough people who are excited about him as a person. Yeah. Right? I feel like there's maybe seven or eight Republicans who could absolutely do this and get away with it. Lauren Boebert, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Jim Jordan,

the guy with the eye patch, a couple of these. Matt Gaetz could do it. There's some that I think that their star power is big enough now that they could do it. I think he was trying to get there because he was making speeches on the floor. He's constant. But I think from the moment he got in,

he was getting the cold shoulder from a lot of like higher up Republicans. There was like a part of the way, there's a Mitt Romney bit. Do you remember this? Where Mitt Romney's walking in. Oh yeah. Mitt Romney's like, you shouldn't be here.

That's what he said to him. Mitt Romney said that to him. You know, we've said this on the show before, you shouldn't be here. That's what he said to him. Mitt Romney said that to him. You know, we've said this on the show before, but like there is a, there is a world so bleak that we are living in that I have a grudging respect. For real.

I have a grudging respect for the accidental integrity of Mitt Romney. I really do. There's been so many, there's been, there's more than a half a dozen times that Mitt Romney has been a voice of integrity in a room full of lunatics. Yeah.

And like, I dislike Mitt Romney and everything that he stood for when he was running for president, right? So I don't want to like, I don't want anyone to think I'm a Mitt Romney fanboy,

but there is such a dearth of fucking integrity. I know, man man that liz cheney has become a hero right mitt romney has become a hero right you know like and all it takes is somebody that like it's like a serious person to be like look i all my ideas are bad and i'm fundamentally a monster but but i'm a serious monster but i'm not gonna go that far right I'm not going to go that far. Right. I'm not going to do that. Right. That's unethical. Right. It's like, look,

I'll put him on trains, but I don't like the second half of the plan. Oh, Jesus. You know? Like, that's how bad the Republicans are. There really is. Jesus Christ, man.

That's so rough. God damn. Fuck George Santos. Yeah, this guy. I want to see this guy. I want to see this guy just get- Crash and burn. Decimated on a fucking, on a witness stand.

Oh, I know. And just have him get thrown out of Congress. And then just have him, my suggestion to every single Democrat from here on out is make this the Republican poster boy. Yeah. Make this the person who you're constantly measuring up against

and pointing to and saying that's their answer to the United States of America. Dude, we got to talk about, like the Democrats in my mind have the easiest possible path in 2024. Like you've got, and we'll talk about Trump in a second. You've got Trump just yesterday at the CNN town hall calling January 6th a beautiful day. Like, if I were making an attack ad. Oh, I know. It was right itself. It's right. Like, I mean, it doesn't. I don't even edit it.

I just put scary music under it. For real. You just put no music. Just the sounds of battle clashing. Seriously, the actual sounds of January 6th and the scared police calling for help. Him talking. And then, you know, you just play that for 10 seconds, right?

And just no commentary. And then Trump. It was a beautiful day. January 6th was a beautiful day. That's my whole ad. That's it. That's my whole ad, man. And then you're George Santos.

I'm Tom Curry and I support this message. I support this message. What's the message? Fucking have you seen that guy? Like writing a fucking ad right now as a Democrat. Like you just get like, hi, I'm so-and-so.

And I, you know, fucking had a fucking miscarriage in the bathroom of a fucking hair salon because I was denied medical care. This message brought to you by the goddamn Republicans. Vote Democrat. Exactly. This shit is so easy.

It's fucking so easy. We have so many silver platters right now that it's actually like we're dropping them. We are fucking juggling like circus clowns. Absolutely, yeah. Every single reveal of that chafing dish, the thing comes up. It's another chafing dish. It's another like million dollars sandwich between bars of gold with truffle on it.

Yes. It's like the best thing ever. And it keeps happening over and over and over. Now, all it relies on, and this is the scary part, it relies on Americans to vote and to care about stuff other than just fucking with each other. I think, fingers crossed, because I think that there is going to be an influx of young voters that do care about that sort of thing. I think so too. So fingers crossed.

Fingers crossed. Look, I'm guilty. I didn't make enough money, okay? This story is from the New York Times and Earth. Yeah. For Trump, a verdict that's harder to spin. After an indictment in Manhattan, Donald Trump's supporters fell in line behind him. A jury's decision in a sexual abuse and defamation case may yet carry a political price.

So I grabbed this story because I thought it was an interesting opinion analysis piece about really what will be the impact of Trump's losing the civil suit that he just lost this week. week, he's been ordered to pay $5 million in damages, including punitive damages, for the sexual abuse of a woman in the 80s or 90s. 80s, 90s? I don't remember exactly. It's like 90s. I think early 90s it was. And that's E. Jean Carroll, who was brave enough to come forward and make those accusations and tell her story. And thankfully, she prevailed in her case. Obviously, you know, Trump immediately was like, oh, it's fucking rigged. Everything's rigged. Rigged is the only thing I know how to say. He's going to get sued again. He is? Yeah. He can't say that. He immediately came out and essentially defamed her again. Yeah, you can't do that. And he already lost the defamation. Already lost it. The first time, you stupid motherfucker. Yeah, he's going

to lose it again. There's a couple of really important points to make about this case. So the first is I saw some tweets going around and some messages about this where they said, it's not rape, it's sexual assault. And I want to be very, very clear. Now this is going to be

graphic. Our show is very graphic anyway. I can't imagine somebody not knowing that our show is graphic, but this is going to be graphic. The reason why they decided to do that is because she had said that he had penetrated her with his hand, and then she wasn't sure if he had actually penetrated her at all with his penis. Right.

And that's the requirement. And that's the requirement, which to me seems so weird, right? It's like, regardless, she was violated, right? Regardless, she was violated in a way that's the requirement. Yeah. Which to me seems so weird, right? It's like, regardless, she was violated, right? Regardless, she was violated in a way that's horrifying. Whether or not the guy did something different shouldn't matter in that. It doesn't make any sense to me.

It's like, it's like, what? This guy's going to be like, oh, because his dick was there. That's a different charge or a different- And a bigger charge. Right. It's because his dick, and you're like, no, she, if she didn't know and she didn't, and she couldn't decide because it was dark or whatever, and she couldn't tell. So she didn't know.

And so I wanted to make sure that that's clear. So she didn't know. It's not that it's not. It's just that it's not sure. Right. And there's a big difference there. Yeah. And so in any case, and also there's a big difference there. Yeah. And so in any case,

and also there's a small difference there too. I want to point that out. There's a big difference, but there's also a small difference. The thing is like, it is an understandable confusion to have when you are talking about Donald Trump. Yeah, right.

It's an understandable, is that a finger or his dick? Understandable confusion. In any case, he was, he was, that was how that played out. The other big piece

that I think people don't understand is that one of the guys on the jury listened to, almost exclusively listened to Tim Pool, who's a far right podcaster. I have read about this. Yeah. And he,

he unanimously stood up with the rest of those people and said, yeah, I agree. He's guilty. Yes, he should have to pay

this stuff. So that happened. Like there was somebody who was indoctrinated in far right ideology and even came forward and was like, no man, this fucking guy's got to pay off. And so that's a real, there's a couple of real big points there that I think, you know, even if you were dubious or whatever, as a Trump supporter, which clearly his audience at the CNN thing was because they laughed when he brought it up. When he made fun of her, they laughed when he brought it up. So there clearly are some people out there, but I don't think they understand a couple of these things that were happening in the background. Well, and I think there's a big difference between hearing your guy talk about something like in an audience like CNN versus seeing all of the evidence firsthand, right? So you got this guy, like to your point, you got this guy who was, you know, by all reasonable

measures, you could expect him to be very sympathetic to Trump, very sympathetic to a right. But when confronted, like decent people will still, when confronted with like days and days worth of testimony and evidence, that's a different environment to swim in. The thing is like these Trump supporters, every day they wake up and they're swimming in an environment that they are choosing and that is curated for them to tell them a certain message in a certain very specific way. It's confirming all their biases every day. Absolutely. And so I think once these guys, and I was thinking about that same point, Cecil, similarly, that I really feel very hopeful that the other charges, the criminal charges that have been leveled against Trump. Because I was like, God, all you need is like a couple of fucking Trump wackos on the jury and it's going to fuck

the whole thing up. But then this happened. And I thought the same thing. I thought, you know what? I don't think so, man. I think there's a real possibility that like when all of the evidence is put before a jury that thinks of themselves as reasonable and rational because people generally think of themselves that way. Yeah. Yeah. That it's going to be really hard. And I think the same is going to be true when eventually, and I think there's, there's mounting evidence that Georgia will eventually indict Trump as well. That everything that I've read, you know, there's like all of the opening signs of everybody getting ready. Like all the things that a prosecutor has to do to get ready to level charges, they're all done.

So I really think that there's a significant and real possibility that that motherfucker is going to get convicted criminally. That would be amazing. I really think so. And I didn't feel as hopeful until this. You know, another piece that I think some people might've forgot

is that the last debate that he had with Hillary Clinton, he invited four sexual assault accusers of Bill Clinton to sit in his box at the thing to try to unnerve Hillary Clinton. I don't know if you remember this. I don't remember this,

but Jesus. So he had invited those four women who had been, who had accused Bill Clinton. Just to unnerve Hillary. Just to unnerve Hillary to put them in the box. And he had a press conference with her, with them beforehand to say, these are victims.

We should listen to victims, et cetera. I feel like this guy, and I think a lot of Republicans, use this when it's to their advantage. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And then immediately, you know what I mean? This is a guy who's an absolute

scumbag, right? He has done this in the past, not just to I mean, this is not just one person who's accused Donald Trump. There are literally a dozen allegations. So there's a, there's a bunch of people who have accused him and he will stoop to that immediately when it serves his purpose and his, and his base will love it when it's against the other person. But if something like this comes out, they're immediately laughing at that person

to say, oh, this person is that E. Jean Carroll, who cares about her? Ha ha ha. Donald Trump is great or whatever, et cetera. And you just see the hypocrisy of that side. Think about if this guy was a Democrat. Oh, the right would be chewing him up and eating him and spitting him out. So would the left.

Yeah. So would the left. I don't think there's many people that you could say this about that you'd be like, oh, yeah, no, I think they'd forgive him. I can't think of anybody now, currently. They look the other way for Bill Clinton years ago. Yeah, for sure.

They look the other way for Bill Clinton. Absolutely, unequivocally, yes. But he was a scumbag. Yeah. He was a genuine scumbag. Absolutely, no doubt. And even if you discount anything else that's been accused of him and just go with the Monica Lewinsky thing, that's a scummy, shitty thing to do. Yeah.

Because that's somebody is underneath you in a power structure by a lot. Yeah. Not only was she like way underpowered, but she was also way younger. Yeah. It was a lot of bad. That was really bad. Yeah. She was empowered, but she was also way younger.

Yeah, it was a lot of bad. Yeah, there was nothing about- That was really bad. Yeah, there was nothing about that situation that could have possibly approached the kind of equity or parity- Nothing. That is required to do that kind of shit after that. Yeah, no.

Like, not at all. Yeah, and I would be fine if anything ever came out like this about anybody, be like, get rid of him. Yeah, 100%. So long. Of course. Don't care about you ever again.

Left, right, center, sideways. Bye-bye. Independent, upside down. Who gives a shit, right? This isn't about, like, you either have values or you don't. Right. You know what I mean? And like, I will say, like, I'm as pragmatic and strategic as I think I can possibly be

without abandoning my values. Right. But the reason I have leftist value, or the reason I vote left, the reason I vote Democrat is because I have certain values. I can't hold those things as being important to me and then also be monstrous in their application because that's a position I can't hold. The Republicans don't have that same cognitive distance, right? So they don't experience that same conflict internally. Because if you're a Republican, these are not values that are important to you. Like,

if you're a Republican, you are not waking up in the morning and getting on your soapbox and fighting for women's rights. That's not like something you have decades-long history of doing. That's something the Democrats do. That's something that Republicans staunchly, actively and vocally oppose. Yeah. So there isn't that same like dissonance when women are attacked and violated and disenfranchised. That's the game plan. Yeah. Like there is no like I really think like there's no. And like, you know, one thing that was interesting, one of the most like grotesque things that was said at that CNN town hall. No, not in the CNN town hall. One of the most grotesque things that came out, actually came out in the testimony, in Trump's testimony just prior to the civil suit,

was they asked Trump about like his access Hollywood comments and they asked her and he said, yeah, right or wrong. You can grab women by the put. He said like he doubled down and he said like, Hey, look, I don't know if it's right or wrong, but it's true. You can, you can basically sexually assault women. That's the way it's been for millions of years. And I'm paraphrasing, but only barely. Sure. I'm only barely paraphrasing. If we look it up, it's almost exactly like that. Sure. So like this is a, and that's a side of the Republican mindset

that a lot of people on that side don't have a problem with. They're like, yeah, well, you know, if you have power, you can use it. Yeah. And there was another grotesque part about this trial too, where, you know, the guy who was the lawyer,

I don't even know why you would say this. He said, why didn't you scream? Oh, that was so gross. If this happened to you, why didn't you scream? And her comment was amazing. It's just like, some people don't scream. Some people, you know, fight or whatever. I, you know, they react in different ways, but you know, the idea that, that somebody would call it into question and then like sort of monday morning quarterback that whole thing is grotesque and that if that's your defense yeah i just i i can see how you lost i can see easily how you lost and the thing is like i think that in years gone by and still now don't get me wrong and still still now that kind of attack the victim,

destroy her credibility, reduce her to a blubbering mess that's going to make a mistake on some technical issue on the stand so you can seize on and create inconsistencies. That tactic of defense for sexual assault cases, I think for

many, many, many decades has been very effective. That's how they did it. But now I think increasingly it's being seen as manipulative and repugnant. Yeah. And I think- Which is what it always was. Which is what it always was. Always was that.

Right. It's just now you're recognized. Yeah. So like, I think this is like a really good thing is that I think now juries are like, dude, come the fuck up. Yeah, now. And even the judge admonished the defense lawyer for going down that road. So even the judge was

like, dude, the fuck. The fuck. I mean, I think he phrased it nicer. But he did admonish the lawyer. Wouldn't it be great to fuck contempt out? Yeah. So then at that point, the narrative shift to, it was a nothing

burger. This is great. This is from the New Republic. You can also just find it anywhere. Republicans finally admit they have no incriminating evidence on Joe Biden. So one of the first things that the Republicans did when they seized control is they were like, well, we're going to have you guys hit your January 6th committee. We're going to have our look at Hunter Biden committee. And they had their committee and then they released their whopping 65 page report, which

is nothing by the way. Like when you look at something like the Mueller report, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pages, like substantive investigative reports are not the average length of a grad paper. You know what I mean? Yeah. They were, they, they, all they dug up was a 65 page report and then they held a grad paper. You know what I mean? Yeah. They were, they, they,

they, all they dug up was a 65 page report. And then they held a press conference and in the press conference, like, so is there any actual evidence of anything like hard evidence that links Biden to like literally anything? And he was like, not,

not per se. Yeah. In the evidential fashionary terminology of the word you said. Like, he just was like, uh, he didn't say that smart. No,

no, no, no. He said, stumble fuck around. I think he played the banjo. Um, one of the things too,

that I think is, you know, you could see it happening once they won, is they immediately wanted to do something retaliatory against the other side, whether they had information about it or not, right? Right. They took Rashida Tlaib when she was like, you know, back when she got elected during the midterms after Trump,

that we're going to impeach the motherfucker, she said, they took that as like, you're going after him in an unwarranted fashion just because you don't like him. Right. But there was plenty of evidence that he did the wrong thing with that phone call to Ukraine. There's plenty of evidence that he did the wrong thing.

Yeah, oh yeah. And so, but they chose, and it passed in the House, but didn't even get, I don't even think it got heard. I don't even think it got to a vote. It got heard in the Senate.

So it, you know, there was clearly something there. And what they saw was they could keep manipulating the system in the same way. And, you know, I mean, these are your taxpayer dollars, right? That 65-page paper didn't write itself.

There is, what, a thousand hours worth of investigations that went into that with different people who went and did stuff and like figured stuff out and like wrote down a bunch of bullshit that like busy worked their way into 65 pages worth of stuff.

This entire committee wasted all their time on this thing that they found eventually found no evidence in. So they could do what? And you're like, and the thing is, is I'm all for investigations into stuff. I'm all for investigations. Yeah. But like, if you don't have any evidence to start out at all, why start the investigation? I am into it. Look, when there is a reason to think that there is malfeasance of any kind, we need to investigate that, root out any corruption,

and kill it at its source. And I don't care if it's left, right, or sideways. I don't. I'm right there with you, man. But there has never been any substance to any of these allegations. This was entirely retaliatory. And they said it was

retaliatory. That's the other thing is they came out and said this was retaliatory. They wanted to make people's lives miserable. They said when they were, they said like before the midterms, they said like something like, I don't remember who it was. It's like, you know, hold onto your seats because when we're in charge, we're going to mire you down in investigation after investigation. The goal here is to waste your money and my money and their time not doing the work of legislation,

not doing the work of governance, but doing the work of power brokering and manipulation of the American system. That's what they're trying to do. And they, like, what's insane is that we're so bad off politically that they can telegraph ahead of time. Yeah. That they're going to do this wildly unethical thing. Sure.

This, like, I sometimes wonder, do you remember when you were in, like, history class and you'd, like, read about, like, oh, the Teapot Dome scandal or, you know, some other like political scandal of the ye oldies, you know, like, oh, Herbert Hoover and such. And you'd read this stuff. And I keep thinking like, God, I want to read a fucking textbook from like 2075. I know, right? I really do. Like, like if I could get my hands on a fucking history textbook a college level history textbook i think it's adorable you think there's gonna be a whirl in 27.5 anyway go ahead that's i'm just gonna go throw up in the other room at the accuracy of that sentence so yeah but i like

i keep thinking like this is our teapot dome this is our yeah we're living somebody who they will write about for a very long yeah man yeah, man. Yeah. They're going to absolutely write about him for a very long time. Hey, everybody. We just got done recording our AMA and boy, was it a doozy. So be sure to listen to it coming up right now. Or it already happened. I don't know where this is going. But you know what?

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All right. In our ongoing series of reporting or commentary on the fact that the right hates women, this is from Jezebel. Louisiana Republicans kill rape and incest exceptions to abortion ban after unhinged hearing. Holy shit, man. There's some rough stuff in this article. Yeah, for sure. Like for real, this is a tough article to read. This is one of those articles when you read it, you're like, this is not a world any of us thought we would be living in. We did not, I did not think we would be living in this world. The blaming, just the outright, what, you know, what they're letting people speak and they're taking heed and taking stock of

fucking crazy religious misogynists. And like, I don't know if the religion is what makes them misogynist or if their misogyny is like what keeps them interested in their religion. I don't know. But like the level of hatred that these people have toward women, just raw,

raw, unadulterated, unhidden, like, just like out in the open, brash, mean-spirited hatred of women. I never thought I would see it. I never thought I would see it so out loud. Yeah, and Tom's not exaggerating, right?

He's not exaggerating for effect here. No. One of the things one of the guys says is that if they allowed an exception for rape, then any woman who wanted an abortion would accuse her boyfriend of rape. And then there would be an epidemic of boyfriends being accused of rape because women are so disgusting that they would go out of their way to attack somebody else just to make sure that they didn't have to have this baby or whatever. Like, think about your worldview

when you think that every single woman out there would immediately send someone to jail just so that they could have an abortion. Yeah.

And this is not an uncommon refrain. It's not. It's not an uncommon thought either. There's a lot of people who very much consider that women lie about rape all the time. And that women just lie more than men.

Yeah. They're, you know, like you may not be as like steeped in it, in your social media as I am, but like, I, maybe you are, but like my social media feed has gotten insane. Not like my friends and family, because I keep that very heavily curated, but the sort of stuff that social media feeds to me and like my reels and stuff, um, it's gotten real manosfery. Okay.

Real, real, real, real manosfery. And I think, I may have talked about this before. I don't remember, but like,

I think it's because I like to watch, I have some very masculine interests. So like I'll watch like fitness and weightlifting videos. I'll search on Facebook, like in the marketplace for like weight workout and fitness equipment. So there's like a gym bro culture that is very manosfery, very, very, very manosfery. And because that's sometimes what I'll like look at or pause on when like looking at like reels or other, those short video content stuff, it's begun to show me more and more super hard manosphere type content in there. And I don't really know how to fix that.

Like I know how to fix my ads. My ads, my ads actually Cecil show me just a huge number of like gun safes and like flag paraphernalia and like fucking right wing shit all the time. And I can fix that by just clicking and being like, I don't like this, make it go away. And after a while it'll get confused and show me like women's underpants. Like if I do it long enough, it'll just get all mixed up. The reels seem more sticky and the reels keep showing me this stuff. And so I, out of morbid curiosity,

sometimes will click on it or read the comments. And dude, it'll be thousands and thousands and thousands of these self-reinforcing comments from dudes who have these theories, like these broad like gender and social theories that really reinforce to one another the duplicitousness and deceitfulness and scheminess of women as being separate and less than and dangerous. There's this group of men that I've been seeing online that, and again, it's in the thousands because of these videos that really think of women as these like dangerous, deceitful liars that are out to hurt men and to take our power and to like all this stuff. They've got a whole language around it. And I really think that what some of this is, is the inevitable legislative response to that constituency of hate.

Right. And I think like, Ian, this is a good point. And I see it on Reddit a lot. Oh. So the comment section will get seeded by somebody when, you know, like let's say there was a story about somebody

who, you know, got off of a rape charge or whatever because the person lied. Let's say that there is a story about that somewhere. Because that does happen on occasion, right? Somebody lies about it. They will immediately seed the comment section with there's a ton more of these than you know,

that sort of thing. It automatically gets seeded in there very quickly. And it's a very infrequent thing. It doesn't happen very often, but they make it seem like every single instance of rape should be hard questioned in that sense because they think that the woman's lying no matter what. And you could see it happen.

It happens with racial stuff too on there. Whenever there's anything that could implicate a race, there's just tons of obscene, racist comments in there. Or they'll say some dumb shit like, yeah, but you can't say anything because, you know, black people can't be racist, sarcasm or whatever. Right. Yeah. Yeah. All that stupid shit. Like all that dumb shit you'll see in there constantly. And I feel like, I feel like, in there constantly. And I feel like, I feel like, you know, when you look in these comment threads, there is this, you know, I don't know if it's pulling back of like who people really are, or if there is just like this tiny group of people who's just super vocal and what they do

is they just go to these things and have to express how they feel. I don't know what it is. Yeah. But there certainly is a ton of people like that. And, you know, I won't be surprised if more racist policies start getting enacted too. I wouldn't either. Because misogynistic policies are starting to take root like crazy.

Yeah, man. So racist ones are next. I mean, if they're not already there, because I know they already are, but I'm saying like overtly, disgustingly racist policies. Just out in the open. Yeah.

Just out in the open. And I'm not saying that that's like, I don't want anyone to confuse me. Like I know that the world is and has always been misogynist and racist, but there have been, there has been a lot of pushback for many, many decades to like silence. And there there has been a lot of pushback for many,

many decades to like silence. And there's also been a lot of pearl grabbing, right? If you were to accuse a Republican of being a misogynist, he would immediately clutch their pearls, right? Immediately like, how dare you, sir? You know, they would be like, I love women, right? But now they'll say these things out loud and you're like, man, you can't, there are no pearls to clutch anymore, bro. No, man. And now when you say that shit. And they're like not even trying anymore. They're just like, hey, look, we're dudes.

We're in power. We want to stay in power. We want to preach a male message to other men. And that's the core graphic that this is trying to appeal to. You know, what I think of it as, because like, I remember we both encountered this. We've talked about this for years on the show and I never had a name for it, but I've been thinking about this as the intimate

room effect. So when you're in what you think of as an intimate room or intimate space with people who are like demographically similar to you, right? All of a sudden things will change or shift sometimes in that room. And it's, it's the worst. And you and I have both experiences. I remember like a good example that I can give is like, I remember I was interested in buying a pistol. Like there was a, there was a 22 caliber pistol that I loved to target shoot and for, I never bought it, but I went shopping for it one day. I was driving by and I saw this shop and I thought, you know, I've got a few minutes. I'm going to swing in. I'm going to talk to somebody,

maybe price one out and decide if I want to buy one. I really just enjoyed shooting this pistol. And I'm in this room, in this gun shop, and I'm a white guy. And there's another white guy behind the counter and he's a little older. And like, you could just feel like his comfort at seeing me as another white guy in this space with no other customers around. And he fairly quickly went into like really

overtly racist conversation. Like overtly racist. And I've had that with like repair people who come out to the house. You look like a racist, so. Right, yeah, I look like a racist. You look like a racist,

so it's a problem. You exude racism. I exude it. a racist. Yeah, I look like a racist. You look like a racist. That's the problem. You exude racism. I exude it. But I know you've encountered the same thing. Yeah, I know. When I wear my white hood out, Tom, I get a lot of people. They'll be like,

hey, man, how are you? The swastika I've got on my face, tattooed on my face. That might be the tell. Tom wears makeup on camera, but he has a swastika. A lot of them. I have a lot of them.

Like dozens, actually. Dozens of them. Actually, it looks like that girl from Fifth Element or whatever. It's just a tattoo like over your eyes. So when Tom closes his eyes, you see those stars and bars. But otherwise. God damn. God damn.

No, but seriously, like you're right. I get it too, but you're right. Neither of us, I don't think exude racism. But I think think there is this sort of thing. Whenever there's a moment for the certain people to talk about some of this stuff, they want to. They want to. They want to. And they're looking for that sympathetic ear, and they're hoping for that. I had an encounter, I won't go into the whole thing. I had a similar encounter when I was at the gym. I was sitting in the sauna, and there were a couple of older guys,

and I kind of got into it with these guys. They were making some really awful, racist, and misogynist comments. And now that I'm a little older, I feel much more comfortable engaging in a more confrontational way. But when I was a younger man, I didn't engage. I would just leave. Yeah, I don't know what to do. I would get all fucking flustered. Yeah, I don't know what to do.

And I would just leave. Yeah, I don't know what to do. I would get all fucking flustered. Yeah, I don't know what to do. And I would leave. I didn't know like what or how to respond to that stuff. I also feel too back then, it was a lot more hidden. So it didn't feel like such a problem. But nowadays when you hear something like that, you're like, that's the problem with us. Stop it.

Yeah. You know, and so you want to act and say, what the fuck is wrong with you? Not, well, geez, I'll just leave. You know what I mean? Because you feel Yeah. You know, and so you want to act and say, what the fuck is wrong with you? Not, well, geez, I'll just leave. You know what I mean? Because you feel like, you know, maybe we just left a lot, a lot when we were younger and we shouldn't be doing that. We shouldn't. Yeah. I find it really worrisome though, that that intimate room effect has now made its way into the megaphone spaces of politics and social media. Yeah. Because when it was confined to some racist gun store, I just left the gun store.

You just left it. When it was confined to the fucking dryer repair guy, I just didn't ever call that dryer repair guy again. Now it's policy. Now it's Louisiana policy. Now it's Missouri policy. Now it's Florida policy. Like it's Missouri policy. Now it's Florida policy. That like they're, they're getting bolder.

Yeah. Like the, the more comfortable we are with our speech, the more comfortable we are with our actions. Yeah. When we hide our speech, we hide our actions. And I, and you're right. The more comfortable they get, the more you'd see it online and then you'll see a ton of people emulating it as well.

And yeah, I want to do, I do want to mention the last bit of this article at the bottom. One of the reasons why one of these guys voted is that a certain person had given a speech and said, I was the product of rape and my mom never got over it. And she died when she was, when I was very young in her twenties, the mom died and they said, my mom never got over it. And I want to make sure that other people have an opportunity to give an abortion if they don't want to basically have this entire,

their entire life focused on this rape because that's what happens when you have to raise a child from it. And the guy's response was, well, you turned out really good and I don't want to see that happen to someone else. I don't want to see someone else get aborted. You turned out good. So. Fucking mom's dead. I know. Like her life was forfeit. I know. I know. Like there's this, there's this like,

I know like, there's this like horrible, bad calculus that these guys do where they trade a potential for a life and they weigh that potential as being more valuable than actual life. And it literally never can be that way. If you're a sensible human being, a potential for something, it's like, I'll trade you a potential lottery ticket. Well, that's nothing. Yeah. That's nothing. Yeah. It's like, it's even more, even dumber,

the potential to buy a lottery ticket. It's even dumber than that. It's even dumber. And then the audacity to look that person in the face and say, I know better than you. Yeah.

You told me something, but I not only didn't listen, I'm going to, I'm going to actually correct you, basically. I'm going to correct your lived experience and then legislate on it. It's disgusting. What the fuck? I'm being sued for divorce. Very good, sir. In Alabama, this is from The Independent, Alabama Republicans would charge

abortion patients with murder under proposed legislation. The bill would allow prosecutions for anyone who terminates a pregnancy regardless of viability at any point after fertilization, regardless of viability. I think this really is a show by these people that they will never back down on this because once they got in,

we talked about it, like when they got that inch and they took as much as they could, as soon as the Supreme Court brought this forward, they've been making more and more and more invasive, disgusting laws in these places across America where they have the power to do so.

And they've done it over and over and over again. And I think this really is going to bite them in the ass because at a certain point, you're going to legislate so deeply against the women that live there that they are going to have to vote against you because of what you're doing. You know, maybe you'll continue to get a, you know, a female geriatric vote or something, right? Maybe there is something there to be said about some women in that state who are past the point where they can get pregnant

and where they don't, they would never. Not in my back uterus. But it doesn't matter to them anymore. Seriously though, it doesn't, right? Like they genuinely are like, it doesn't matter to me, so I don't give a shit. Like I'd much rather impose shitty laws on people, other people that don't affect me anymore. And so I feel like there's going to be always some contingent of women, but there's going

to be a ton of women and dudes who are all in this situation. We're going to say, no, absolutely not. You know, you start, you start saddling people who didn't want to have kids with child support, with other stuff. This is going to turn a lot of people's heads away from this particular party because they're going to start seeing the actual effects of these laws and the economic effects of having children

and the tragedy that is caused by so many of these like, you know, pres pregnancies that aren't viable. Dude, the tragedies behind that. Yeah. You're going to watch your girlfriends.

Let's say you're fucking a staunch Republican, but you got to watch your girlfriend suffer because she has an unviable fetus. And now she can maybe get septic. Maybe there's other stuff that can happen that can fuck her up. She could maybe lose the opportunity to reproduce altogether because of this. There could be some real serious changes. This could change your worldview hardcore. Yeah, man. And it is inarguable. I really do. I think it's inarguable that if you are mandating forced birth, regardless of viability,

then this is a punishment system for women. Really is. Because it can't be anything about life, right? You, you've thrown away. If it's regardless of viability, then what you're saying is I am actually not concerned with life anymore.

This is not pro life life at that point. This is about punishing women exclusively. And punishing them for what? Punishing them for the crime of their sexuality. Punishing them for, as we've talked about, and I strongly believe, punishing them for their challenge to men in the workforce and in the political arena, right?

Like this is straight up hatred for women. There's no, if you are doing this regardless of viability, if viability doesn't enter into your calculus, then you're saying life itself. And then we're not even talking about the dumb potential argument. The potential argument is fucking monstrously stupid as I believe that that argument is. The potential argument can't enter the conversation

if you're saying viability is not effective. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And, you know, I will say too, Cecil, I would be shocked, shocked if this, if the current state of affairs with respect to abortion access in this country doesn't change. I would be shocked if we didn't see laws in many of these Southern states, in many of these trash, garbage, hellhole states, lessening child support laws, making it easier for men to not pay child support. Yeah, you're probably right. I'll bet you they will repeal the deadbeat dad laws. You're probably right. I'll bet you they will repeal some of the clawback. There's going to be some serious economic hardships if they don't change it,

right? Because if the intent is to punish women, this is stage two. Stage two is to say, all right, well, you know what, bitch? You shouldn't have gotten pregnant, you fucking whore. Because that's the message. You're fucking right. I didn't, you know, I guess I didn't think about it, but, you know, and they've got to keep protecting that base, right? They've got to keep protecting that base of dudes who are going to keep voting for them. right? They've got to keep protecting that base of dudes who are going to keep voting for them. It's just a grotesque system that's popping up in, I want to say it's 20 countries in the United States,

or 20 states, 20 countries. I mean, they feel like other countries. They do feel like, dude, you're not wrong. They feel like other countries. But yeah, there are 20 states in the United States that are, you know, at this point, have wildly different

rules on women than the others. Wildly different. Wild. And it's, you know, and look at who's propagating it.

You know, look at these, like, large right-wing mouthpieces, Texas, Florida, you know, they're governors.

Think about those people. They are absolutely, and you Florida, you know, they're governors. Think about those people. They are absolutely, and you know, this week I saw a story of a couple of Republican women in these Congresses and their state Congresses saying, come on, we can't keep, you know, we can't keep taking away all these abortion rights or whatever. And you're just like, lady, you're a Republican. You didn't know this was coming. You didn't realize this was coming down the alley. You didn't realize this was what they were going to do. So yeah. And then another Democrat flipped sides in one of these places and then wound up flipping sides and then passing this abortion law. And so it's just a shitty, you know, even in places where they might've been able to protect against it in some places, but hopefully there is a wave of younger people who get out there and vote and get some of these people out of office. State elections matter, man.

State elections are so fucking important. They are so, so, so important. You know, pipe dream, and it's not ever going to happen, but like, I really feel like men should not be allowed a vote on women's health issues. I know. We talked about this years ago. Years ago. Yeah, years ago. Why the fuck should men even be able to vote on women's health? Yeah. That seems crazy to me.

That seems crazy to me. That seems crazy to me. If it was reversed, if it was like a power block of 70% women who were mandating like something about my dick. You can't have a sect to me. Right?

You can't get a vasectomy. Vasectomies are against the law. Right. Like there would be outcry. Yeah. Right? There would be massive outcry. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What? Women aren be massive outcry. Oh yeah. Yeah.

What are you women are going to tell me what to do with like, it's, it's only the very notion that men are even allowed to have a voice telling women what they're allowed to do with their bodies is sick. Yeah. It's fucking sick. It doesn't make any sense. Absolutely. It doesn't make any sense. Absolutely. Step four, smash it over their head. Eat sh**, pansy. So, stories from Huffington Post,

Senator Marsha Blackburn proposes armed grandparents. Jesus. Armed grandparents guarding schools to Kaylee McAnanany. McAnanany. She was the press secretary. McAnanany. Was she press secretary for a while or something? She was press secretary for a minute, yeah. All right, here we go.

McAnanany, I think is how her name is pronounced. But I like McAnanany. McAnanany. McAnanany. McAnanany. All right, so here we go. So let me call it up on the big screen. There we go.

Here is Kaylee. She's going to talk about how we should have Gramps have a fucking air 15. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. I seem to remember a lot of security each time that I walked into the White House for work. Armed Secret Service, dogs, metal detectors.

In fact, there's an Armed Secret Service officer just steps away from the press secretary's office i would know i sat there what do you think that costs sorry i'm already i can't what do you think that that costs yeah you're gonna do that for like every school how insane would schools feel if they were locked down with the level of fucking security that we afford to the president of the united states if we treated every student like they were going to be fucking assassinated if they weren't guarded at every moment,

that would be a... You can't get anywhere near the White House. Like, if you were to, like, jump a fence or whatever and start running, either you get shot or you get caught, they'd stick a dog on you, whatever. You would definitely never make it to the White House. You would 100% never make it to the White House.

And it's not because there's like a single guy like Barney Fife with one bullet in his gun sleeping on the porch with his hat over his eyes. It's because there's dozens of people constantly on guard outside of that building and inside that building. They're overlapping security measures. They're all over the place in there.

Not only do they have that, they also have like tons of electronic surveillance that they have constantly. They have safety measures to stop people from driving in, right? So if you were to drive, let's say you were to try to drive a truck full of explosives in there, Tom.

Do you think that they would have those things that pop up and stop you when you can? Of course they would, right? Of course they would. They have every single safety measure you could possibly imagine to stop someone from and she's like, well, I felt really safe there. Maybe we should make other people feel

safe. Right. And it's also like, look, motherfucker, like all of you guys were at threat level midnight every moment of the day, right? Because of course you were. That's both scary for kids. If you were to do that, how insane would those schools feel? That wouldn't feel good.

You wouldn't feel safe. You would feel like crazy paranoid. Like, why is the world trying to kill me? Trump understands why people are trying to kill him, right? There's foreign and domestic actors who benefit terrifically by murdering the leader of the United States, right? But if you're a third grader, you'd be like, why is everyone trying to kill me? Why is any of this necessary? Not only is it impractical and wildly expensive, but also just from like a messaging and fear standpoint.

I know, right? We wouldn't want that. It would be insane. Well, Jimmy, here's the thing. It's you won that tetherball tournament and really put a target on your back. What? Iran didn't like that. Right?

The Ayatollah is pretty pissed about your kickball game yesterday. I don't know. You know, you got to out because Al-Qaeda's coming after you now, Timmy. what? Coming after your volleyball tournament trophy.

Get the actual fuck out of here. Place where Karine Jean-Pierre works. It's impenetrable. What possible reason could you have for not protecting our children,

our true diamonds? Joining me now is Tennessee... What a terrible fucking line. Our true diamonds. What possible reason? Cost.

Yeah, right, yeah. And like Tom said, fear. What they want is an every answer other than get rid of the guns. Exactly. They want to come up with every other answer. It's like, you can't have a shooting without the goddamn guns. And they're like, but we need the guns, so let's figure out another way to do this. How can I keep my guns? How can I reverse engineer this? Right. Yeah. It's like, well, just don't the goddamn guns. And they're like, but we need the guns. So let's figure out another way. How can I keep my gun?

How can I reverse engineer this? Right. Yeah. Well, it's like, it's like, well, I was just,

don't keep your guns. Like that last school shooting. Well, I don't know. Say that a school shooting. That was recent. Last one. Yeah.

I don't even know. Like the guy walked up to the school, just shot through the windows. That's how he gained access to the school. He just blew through the doors though. Cause it, yeah. Like,

look, if that guy had a knife, what was he going to do? He's like a stab his way in. Yeah. blew through the doors. Like, look, if that guy had a knife, he's not going to stab his way in. You know? Knives aren't as efficient. That's why the cops don't carry kitchen knives. That's why our modern armies don't fight with knives against each

other. They don't charge with a bayonet. That doesn't happen anymore. What they do is they shoot each other. It's just not as efficient to fucking run at somebody with a knife it's just right it's just not gonna work as often let's go deer hunting with a knife it's stupid it's a dumb thing to say you're dumb if you think like they'll find any other way it's like yeah people do kill each other in lots of different ways but less efficiently less efficient don't we want to make it harder for killers to kill people? I don't get it. Senator Marsha Blackburn. Senator Blackburn, Nashville happened within about an hour. I get a group text from mothers, concerned mothers, panicked, fearful, worried for their

children. To my knowledge, I did not see any other senator besides you and Senator Hagerty come out with a plan in the immediate aftermath to protect my child tomorrow. Every single Democrat was like, let's do some gun legislation. Every single one. They've been saying this forever. Every single one. What the fuck are you talking about? We have been begging people to pay attention to common sense gun legislation since at least Newtown.

Yeah. Before as well. Before then. Before as well. Yeah. But like there was really some heat at Newtown. Then there was more heat at Parkland. Then there was more heat at Uvalde. Like what the fuck are you talking about?

What do you tell? There's a constant pressure from the left. Right. To remove some gun rights. Yeah. To take some gun rights away to take some gun rights away. Some basic gun safety reform. Some basic, yeah.

They're not asking even for the moon. It's not like they're like, okay, everybody, we're going to melt them all down. Right. There's never been a suggestion like that. No. Okay, we're going to monitor ammunition. And from now on, you can't get ammunition anymore until, you know, you sign in triplicate or whatever. That was the big fear under Obama. Obama's going to monitor your ammunition. and from now on, you can't get ammunition anymore until you sign in triplicate or whatever.

That was the big fear under Obama. Obama's going to monitor your ammunition. They're going to monitor what you have and they're going to come back at you and you're just like, well, good. Awesome. Okay. How can we figure out a way for people to stop throwing bullets at each other

so frequently? Let's figure out a way to stop it. Instead, we're just like, well, the only person who thought of anything was this lady who looks like a fucking villain in a Christmas movie. Yeah, man. Yeah, for real. For real. She totally does. What is your dealings with President Biden and why would he reject this? Because it's stupid. It is just unseemly that there would be such a rejection of this by the Democrats. Everybody should be for the Safe School Act, Kayleigh. They should want to do this tomorrow, as you were saying, to keep our children safe.

This is something I have worked on since 2018. Tried to get it passed then, tried to get it passed last year after the Uvalde shootings. But to have this grant pool and to allow local school systems and local law enforcement to work together, to bring in veterans and retired law enforcement to serve as a security officer at a school. They know how to use weapons. They know how to de-escalate situations. They know how to de-escalate situations. Law enforcement knows how to de-escalate a situation. That guy who was in Chicago

who shot that young man in the back seven times, he's going to go there and de-escalate. De-escalate a situation. He's going to de-escalate that situation. Get the fuck out of here. Oh, they're really good at de-escalating. Yeah, that's what a situation. He's going to de-escalate that situation. Get the fuck out of here. Oh, they're really good at de-escalating. Yeah, that's what

we pay them for. Oh, yeah. That's why we pay them the big bucks. Oh, yeah, those cops, they're real good at de-escalation. When the cops

ride their fucking Bronco through a bunch of people in downtown Chicago. Right. They were just trying to de-escalate. That's what they did. So they,

actually, they more de-accelerated. But yeah, they were de-escalating too. Right, yeah, yeah. I've talked to a lot of them. They like this idea. They are grandparents.

Like we are, my husband and I are grandparents. And they want to be there to help protect children. This would also allow schools. Would you want some trigger happy grandpa with a fucking gun in your school no like two kids get into a fist fight and he like shoots one of them or something look the thing especially if he's like an ex-cop that's their first answer to everything violence violence is the primary tool of law enforcement for, for in order to gain compliance. Yeah.

They don't have other, look, I, the cops have no other tools in their fucking back utility belt. Right. If, when they want compliance, they go to violence.

Yeah. We've seen it so many times. That is a statement, which I simply refuse to retract. Like the idea that you're going to have some fucking retiree who wants to carry a gun in a school wander around. And the thing is, too, it's also what's about this is also it's a liar's bill, right? It's a bullshit bill.

And it's a bullshit bill because schools already have school safety officers. Yeah. What's new here? Yeah, nothing. What this really is potentially, I guess, is maybe more government money to hire more school safety officers. There's no plan here. No.

Because every school right now, just about every school has a school safety officer. Armed school safety. Absolutely. So what's different here? The only thing that's different is that you're trying to pay grandpa to go out down there. You're saying grandpa should be able to go down there.

That's what I'm saying is like, if I get government money, if I'm the, if I'm the administration of the school and I'm going to hire another, is this saying like you can only hire old people? There's that, there's gotta be like a, or a retiree or a veteran or something like that.

So I get like $60,000 to spend for an employee to walk around the school with a gun, but I have to use that money to hire a former veteran? Yeah. Like that's weird. That's all you've done is like reduce my resource pool. You reduced the pool. That's all you did. That's weird. Yeah. You did a weird thing to do. It doesn't make any sense at all. Makes no sense. To have cameras and people to watch the cameras and bulletproof doors and the film on windows, the locks that are necessary to be certain that children are safe in that school environment. And so that parents can have the confidence that their children are going to be safe. Look, in fairness, I do think that it is a unfortunately wise idea

to put building improvements in that make it more difficult for crazed gunmen to execute children. I think we should build every school like the Winchester Mansion so that there's doorways and hallways that don't go anywhere

and so they walk in and they're like, well, I don't know, this door opened up and there's just a wall behind it. A three-headed door. Like I am down with government money to put better locks, bulletproof windows. And the reason I'm down with that is because we're not going to do the right thing.

We're not going to do the gun thing. You're right. Because there's an easy solution to this whole problem. Right. And it's limit guns in some way. And what we're choosing to do instead is be like, well, there's nothing we could do about that. Yep, yep.

All right, what else can we do? Yep. And so that's, so you're right. If other changes came in, sure. Would I want to make sure that there's, you know, better locks on the door or, you know, better training for certain people? Sure, of course I would. But I think you're fucking ass backwards when you're trying to solve this problem. This

problem is easily fucking solvable. You know how many fucking school shootings they have in fucking other countries where they don't allow guns like this? None. None. They don't have them. Once in a fucking great while, something like this happened. Also, some of these schools that have had school shootings have had these safety officers in them. Oh, in them and that hasn't done anything at all. Right. Yeah. No, I like the answer, the answer. And we know it. The answer is means reduction. Yeah. Make violence harder to commit. Yeah. Make me work harder all the time. Make me work harder and harder and harder. It's, you know, like if you think, and you know a lot more about this than I do, but like if you think about defending a castle, the last thing in your line of defense is

the hand-to-hand combat after the enemy has already breached your gate. Yeah. So what you do instead is you put a series of difficulties in front of your castle to make it more and more difficult so that you don't have to fight anyone hand to hand, so that they die off, they give up, they fail. It's the same idea. We need to make committing violence wildly inconvenient, expensive, difficult, painful to do.

We need to make the commitment of violence something you have to deeply commit to. And that will reduce the opportunistic people who perform these acts of violence. And we perform these, these people perform these acts of violence opportunistically because we put virtually no meaningful barriers in place. You know what I mean? No.

Like it's crazy to me, for example, that you can reload your own bullets at home. Bullets should have to be purchased from a store and every bullet you buy should be stamped with a little serial number so that I know who bought a box of bullets that, you know, I bought a box of bullets, got 50 bullets in a box and it's bullets with serial number A752963 through A7592686 or whatever. You know what I mean? Like,

everything about American gun culture is designed around anonymity. Yeah. It is built around anonymity. Yeah.

We make it possible to have guns no one knows about, to have endless amounts of ammunition, endless amounts of ammunition. between each other

without any trace whatsoever. Because I could give you a gun and no one could know. Yeah. Well, and that's the thing. It's like, I have guns people have given to me as presents. Or like, my dad got older and can't use his. Like, nobody knows. Yeah.

Nobody knows who has what. Nobody knows. Yeah. It should be required to insure a gun. It should be required to report that you own a gun. There should be big penalties. They should know how many I have. Right.

I know that there's going to be people out there like, well, you don't want the government to know how many guns you have. I do. I want the government to know. I just, I feel like it doesn't matter how many guns I have. Right.

Like I can have a, I could have a whole house full of guns and that doesn't stop. That doesn't do anything to a person in a tank. Right. They can just drive their tank wherever they want and be like, we're going to shoot your house. And then, but doom and it's over,

you know, unless I. Small arms are nothing. Yeah. Like that's the truth. Like small arms are nothing. Like you are not going to stop the full force of the United States military levied against you with your fucking shotgun or your AR-15

or your dumb fucking Glock you don't need, you idiots. Absolutely not. And you heard it here first, folks. Tom wants to have moats around all the schools. Moats around schools! Trebuchets. Moats and trebuchets. Moats and trebuchets. These are not bad ideas. No, it's not. I mean, who wants, who doesn't want to go, like,

be, have the mascot the Lockport trebuchets or whatever? Dude, for real. That's what you want. Here's what Marsha Blackburn should have proposed. Murder holes. Yes. And we pour boiling oil out of them.

Yes. Absolutely. A pike wall. Yes. I'm with you, Tom. Yeah. See, we're together on this. All right. That's going to wrap it up for this week.

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