Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 694: Egg on your Face

Episode Date: June 5, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of Cognitive Dissonance is brought to you by our patrons. You fucking rock. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. recording live from glory hole studios in chicago beyond, this is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there is no welcome at. Today is June 1st, 2023. Cecil, I had a hell of a week.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I had a hell of a week, buddy. This week, and this will lead into our topic, I promise. So this week, we moved, the family moved. So we moved a whopping four and a half miles, big honking ass move, from a four bedroom house to a four bedroom house. And it is now Thursday. We moved on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:01:30 And my body, Cecil, Cecil, my body feels like hammered shit. Yeah, yeah. Top to bottom. Yeah, man. Left to right and upside down. It doesn't matter your age either, right? Like I remember I've helped people move
Starting point is 00:01:44 and I've moved myself. And no matter what, after a move, It doesn't matter your age either, right? Like I remember I've helped people move and I've moved myself. And no matter what, after a move, it doesn't matter unless it's like the thing you do for a living. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Like how in shape you think you are. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Right? It's like, yeah, whatever. Like I'm in pretty good shape, you know, like I'll pick up some stuff. Your body's like, yeah, but you didn't do exactly. Here's the great thing about your fucking body, right? Your body's like, oh, okay. So't do exact. Here's the great thing about your fucking body, right? Your body's like, oh, okay. So you do, you lift weights, you do cardio, you do burpees, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Great. Okay, cool. So will that translate into actually doing anything? Your body's like, no, man. No. That's just, if you do anything physically strenuous, you're just going to hurt. Yeah. And then as you get older.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Yeah. You're just like, well, I hurt today. And your body's like, yeah. And that's going to last. And you're going to hurt yeah and then as you get older yeah you're just like well i hurt today and your body's like yeah and that's gonna last and you're gonna that's gonna last forever forever and ever forever ever yeah no it's pretty unpleasant yeah i took i took a big chunk of yesterday afternoon and all of yesterday evening off of doing any work and i just laid around and i was like all right cool my back will be much. Like my back has just been sore. I woke up this morning and I did that thing where you wake up and you're like, I can't stand all the way up. You know, you got to take like four shuffle steps, you know? And then you're like, you're kind of gradually like, oh, there we go. And you're like, okay, I'm up. I took my back out in Chicago and I went to the, to the doctor and I got out of the car when I was there and I know
Starting point is 00:03:06 shit was like leaned over, bent over. And I had to walk in like that. Cause I could not straighten up. And then I came in and he's like, he's like, you 100% need muscle relaxers. And so he was prescribing muscle relaxers. He's like, I don't want you to go to a pharmacy. He's like, we have a pharmacy in the building. I want you to walk across the hall. I want you to take some pills. And then I want you to like figure out how to get home, get your car later. And as soon as I took him, maybe 20 minutes later,
Starting point is 00:03:32 I was like, I could stand up again. Oh, it's like, oh, it's amazing. It's because man. Fucking hell, man. Your back hurting is the worst hurting. It's like it controls all of the pieces. It's like, yeah. Like I know like all the other,
Starting point is 00:03:46 like this is old man yells at cloud radio. I know it. Yeah. But it just, it absolutely cracks me up that like you think you're building some kind of like functional resilience to work. Yeah. And what you're doing instead
Starting point is 00:03:58 is just teaching your body that this exact kind of work is acceptable. And the rest of it. And literally if I grab a spatula funny, your body's like, that hurts forever now. Meh. Well, what's funny is I can, you know, work out on a cardio machine for a long time or whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Yeah. I can row. I can bike. I can, I used to be able to run. I am running because my leg hurts me now, but I used to run and I could do all those things. Right. But like whenever I would climb stairs,
Starting point is 00:04:26 I'd be out of breath. Right. And I would be like, why am I out of breath? I can like literally ride at an intense pace for hours. But as soon as you get to this thing, you're like, no, I just climbed up two flights of stairs and I'm out of breath. Dude, I'm not even exaggerating.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Over the summer or no, over the winter, I was going to a commercial gym. I hadn't gone to a commercial gym in a long time. I was going to a commercial gym. And for my cardio, I was like, I was going to a commercial gym. I hadn't gone to a commercial gym in a long time. I was going to a commercial gym. And for my cardio, I was like, I'm going to do the Stairmaster. I've never done a Stairmaster. So I get on the Stairmaster and I'm doing the Stairmaster. See, so I'm doing the Stairmaster every single day.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Like, so I lift weights. I do the Stairmaster. I lift weights. I do the Stairmaster. I come home. I walk up my stairs and I'm like and i'm like why what i did what is that the work that it said i did the same thing it's like yeah but your body's like yeah but that was a stair master it's okay yeah it's all bullshit this is stair original right
Starting point is 00:05:17 this is og stare i think it's just i think it's i think at a certain age my body's just mad at me all the time and it's just like dude just relax and understand you're going to hurt. Yeah. You're just going to hurt all the time. No matter what. And that's because as we get older, there's a reality we have to accept. You have to face some things for sure. And one of them, we talked about it last week, Dianne Feinstein.
Starting point is 00:05:41 There was a story out this week that some of her aides had to tell her who Kamala Harris was. Yeah, this story comes from the Hill. Feinstein expressed confusion over Kamala Harris presiding over the Senate in a report. And she reportedly was confused when Vice President Harris was presiding over the Senate to cast a tie-breaking vote, according to a new report detailing the difficulties that the ailing lawmaker faces as she continues her work in the Senate. And so it was a new report from the New York Times. This isn't like Bill said this, right? This is the New York Times. And this event took place last year before her most recent troubles, right? So the Harris example reportedly took place last year and illustrates the difficulty that Feinstein has had recalling at times the basics of how the Senate operates.
Starting point is 00:06:36 And I get that the Senate's operation from a rules perspective is full of arcane minutia, right? And McConnell has been the master of that arcane minutiae and that maneuvering for a long time. But knowing who the tie-breaking vote is, that's some civics class shit. That's civics shit. And she's coming under fire because she doesn't feel like she's all there.
Starting point is 00:07:02 And we talked about it last week. And we got some pushback from some people who called it ageism. And there were some people who were upset about the things that we said. And one, I want to say like, you didn't really listen that carefully if that's what you think,
Starting point is 00:07:15 because Tom had said that every single person should be tested for competency. That's not ageist if everyone is. That's not saying you, that's saying people over a certain age would have to be. But also I want to say too, we seem to be really careful
Starting point is 00:07:33 around talking around age in the Senate and in offices in general, in the public, in the United States public, we seem to be very careful about talking about age. But there are many age requirements for office. So age is on the table in every single one of these the other way, right?
Starting point is 00:07:52 You got to be 30 to be a senator. You got to be 35 to be the president. These are requirements for office. So age is already on the table, yet we seem to think we can't take it off the table at some other point. Yeah, you know, like the fact that there are minimum age requirements to do anything, right, to do anything, is a recognition that the brain as an organ needs time to grow, to form, to mature, and for people to come into a kind of intellectual coming of their own. I don't know what else to say.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And that doesn't happen. A 13-year-old is not as capable intellectually as a 25-year-old. That's these age requirements. And it is also just scientifically the case that as a demographic reality, right?
Starting point is 00:08:46 There are always outliers. You can always pull the outliers off the throne way. You can find the opposite is true too. Like you can find a Doogie Howser ass motherfucker, right? You can meet a 25 year old who's absolutely brilliant. Yeah. Brilliant and mature and all the rest of it. And able to rise, able to make amazing decisions.
Starting point is 00:09:03 That's possible, right? and wise, able to make amazing decisions, that's possible, right? But when we make rules, I think it is reasonable for us to make rules about demographic realities. And it is a demographic reality that as we age, in my case, moving is a great example. As I've gotten my body at 45,
Starting point is 00:09:19 hurts more after a day of moving than it did at 25, right? It just does. As I get older, my memory will change. My memory will change. That is a truth of how our brains operate and how age affects our ability. Age affects abilities when we're young, it affects abilities as we mature, and it affects our abilities into our later years. I think it is perfectly reasonable for us to not put our head in the sand and to say some shit is real fucking important. Like, I don't know, governing the goddamn country.
Starting point is 00:09:54 And if you're going to ask, if you're going to ask to hold that position, if you're going to beg, plead, cajole, lobby for you to hold that position. You have to go through extraordinary efforts to gain that position of trust. I think if you're going to go through all of that, it is perfectly reasonable for you to have to pledge back to the people that are voting for you that you are competent and to demonstrate that competence. And I think you should have to do that at every age, at every level, because age matters. Age does have impacts on our brains, our recall, how swift we are. And if you're 90 and you take that test and you crush that test, bully for you.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Awesome. Love it. Be 90 and be in office. I'm fine with it. You know what I mean? Like, I don't think we should strip people of driver's licenses because they're old either, but I do think they should be tested more often because our reflexes change. Well, it's, it's, it's also one of those things that it's like, it's like a, an actuarial study
Starting point is 00:10:54 knows that those people are the people who are elderly have a better chance of getting into an accident or something. So they test them more, right? They know these things because they crunch these numbers. you know? Then we talk about a while back, we're talking about the difference between male and female drivers, right? You and I were talking about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:10 There's a genuine difference, right? That's not sexist to say that female drivers at a younger age are better at this. Right. Because that's just true. It's just a true thing. Crunch the numbers. It doesn't necessarily mean
Starting point is 00:11:22 that a female driver is better than all male drivers, but it does mean that on average, on average, a female driver at 18 is going to be more responsible of a driver than an 18-year-old male. It's just true. And it's true because they just pay less insurance. And we know that, right? The same thing goes for this sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:11:42 We know that, you know, your competency does start to go down. Does it go down for everybody? No, it doesn't. Does it go down at the same rate? Listen to Noam Chomsky speak. Noam Chomsky is still very smart. Listen to that guy talk. Talk's real slow now. Talk's like that tree on fucking Lord of the Rings, but he's still real smart. Like he's still real smart. It's not like he lost that. So you can go listen, that guy's in his 90s. So he's a smart dude. It's not like he's a,
Starting point is 00:12:08 he's an idiot or he's, you know, at least the stuff I saw and I don't know how recent it was, but it was relatively recent. I mean, like I say,
Starting point is 00:12:14 he's, he's up there in age, but he's still whip smart. There's plenty of people who are up there in age. Bernie Sanders is a great example. Bernie Sanders is not a young man. Bernie Sanders is an older man.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And he's sharp as a fucking tack. He's still sharp as a fucking tack, that guy. He's 78, 79, something like He's still sharp as a fucking tack, that guy. He's 78, 79, something like that. Older man, still ready to go. So there's plenty of people
Starting point is 00:12:30 out there that I think can fit it. And I think you're right when you say we need to, we need to pay attention to that sort of thing. I also think too, you know, we didn't talk about it
Starting point is 00:12:39 as much, I guess on there, but we are 100% for term limits. Like I think both of us are like super 100% for term limits. We've talked about term limits a bunch. I guess, on there, but we are 100% for term limits. Like, I think both of us are like super 100% for term limits. We've talked about term limits a bunch. I think, and I think we said, like,
Starting point is 00:12:50 I do not think that you should have a career in a single position in politics. I don't think that you should be the governor forever. I don't think you should be a senator forever. I don't think you should. I think everything should have, every position should have a pretty short number of term limits. Yeah. And I think we've been leaning towards them being pain points too. Like these jobs shouldn't be good. You should be extensively
Starting point is 00:13:15 tested and you should, these jobs could, should kind of suck. They should work you pretty hard. So you don't want to do it again. Yeah. You do it once. And you're like, I, it's like, it's like getting hazed or something. And you're like, okay, no, that's fine. I'm good. I did it. I, you waterboarded me for four years. I don't need it anymore. I pledged Kappa Nu or whatever. I'm good. But I, I, I just feel like, I feel like people, they, that what they, what happens is, is they hear something and they want to immediately say, that's bad because you said this thing. And you're like, but you're not listening to what we're saying. I'm not saying all old people are incompetent.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I know. I would never say that. I don't think that's the case. But I definitely think that Dianne Feinstein, like the rest of those people, I agree with you, should be fucking tested. Yeah. In some way, a competency test of something.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And like I said last week, because I mean this, I have people in my life that are young people that have had events and medications and things that have happened and their competency has changed. We should just test everybody. It is just good practice. It's not because we're going to, I'm not saying because I don't want the counter argument that, oh, you're just going to test everybody because you're trying to catch the people over here in the pool, right? What I'm saying is that our brain is a meat organ.
Starting point is 00:14:33 It's just a fucking meat organ, but it's the one that we're relying on in order to do this work. And it's a deadly important fucking work that needs to be done. And so we know that lots of shit can affect it, right? You could have
Starting point is 00:14:45 had a traumatic brain injury 10 years ago. Look at the NFL football players. They get these traumatic brain injuries years and years and years and years ago, and then it builds up, right? And causes problems. So we should just be on the lookout for competency lapses because so many things can cause lapses in competency. Absolutely. And we should just be like, hey, you know what? If you're going to do really fucking important work, let's double check and make sure every year that you're capable of that work.
Starting point is 00:15:13 We don't treat it like it's important enough. And I think that's the real problem. That's the real problem. You're exactly right. Speaking of incompetency, Tom. Oh my God. Let's talk about Marjorie Taylor Greene. Marjorie Taylor Greene, the story's from the insider.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Marjorie Taylor Greene, who's raged about drag queens for months, is defending her boyfriend over an old video of him donning drag in Dallas. And they both shared it afterwards. They both shared it. They both shared it. And the thing is, Cecil,
Starting point is 00:15:39 it's a smart thing for them to do. Sure. Right? Because being consistent doesn't matter to them or their base. Leaning into it lets them control the narrative. Yeah. And so we're at the place, I know we talked about this before, but there are no more gotcha moments left.
Starting point is 00:15:56 They don't exist. You can't get them. They don't exist. What are you going to do? You could literally get these people doing and saying the most egregiously awful shit on camera. And we know this because it's happened. And it does not matter.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Matt Gaetz is credibly accused of child sex trafficking with his 17-year-old girlfriend that he brought across state lines. He's credibly accused of being a fucking statutory rapist. And he got reelected. Got reelected. And nothing's going to happen to him. Nothing's going to happen to him. Did you hear about that? Is it Paxton or Patton? The guy from- Paxton got impeached. Did you hear about this though? Yeah. You know why he got impeached? He got impeached not because of the things he did.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Money. He got impeached because of money, but then he also got impeached because he was, he in some way was sharing the blame with other Republicans that were down there, right? because of the things he did. Money. He got impeached because of money, but then he also got impeached because he was, he in some way was sharing the blame with other Republicans that were down there, right? Before they could separate themselves from it.
Starting point is 00:16:52 They knew he did all kinds of crazy shit. It's not like they didn't know he did this shit. They knew he did this shit. They knew it 100%. For years. It wasn't a gotcha moment.
Starting point is 00:17:00 He was, he literally let someone look at class, like FBI documents about the case that is going after that person. So this rich person knew the FBI had a case against him. This guy, this attorney general from Texas, let that person look at these classified documents about documents he should never see that basically lay out some of his case. And he saw them and then donated $25,000 to this guy's fucking fund of like, like his political fund. And then he used it to like redecorate his kitchen or something. I mean, it's like, it's the most egregious use of power that you could possibly imagine other than like just shooting someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue. It's an abuse
Starting point is 00:17:46 of power like you wouldn't believe. They all knew it happened. What happened was he let some people go because the whistleblower came forward and said, this is terrible. He fired all the whistleblowers. Fired them all. Retaliatory firing. Then they sued him and then he settled and then came to the
Starting point is 00:18:02 court and he was like, I want you guys to settle for me. I need you guys to pay it. That's when they were like, nah, man, we're impeaching your ass. And they, they did it because they knew that the egg was going to fly from his face to theirs. And that's the only way that there's ever any consequences on that side is if the egg flies far enough off their face to hit someone else. Because if it's, I mean, they could be fucking bukkake'd in egg. They could be cracking eggs on their face
Starting point is 00:18:29 for an entire day in the sun. Right. It's just coated their face. They look like they're going to get fucking three-stage breaded, Tom. They're just covered
Starting point is 00:18:38 in fucking egg. Next week on Season Liberally. But seriously, they could be just covered in it. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter at all. And this is a perfect example.
Starting point is 00:18:48 It doesn't matter at all because no one else is. But the moment someone else gets implicated, and we're going to talk about some of this stuff later, especially with Trump, the moment something else happens and reaches out to somebody else, that's when it matters. And that's when shit will happen.
Starting point is 00:19:00 But if it just is that person, they are essentially, they just wear armor that cannot be pierced because hypocrisy does not matter. Doesn't matter. Marjorie Taylor Greene for years now has been going after drag queens, right? Going after drag queens, going after drag queens, calling the, you know, really vilifying, talking about predatory and grooming and all this, all the usual right-wing fucking moral panic wedge issue nonsense in order to like work up their base about non-existent social issues that literally nobody cares about, except for the right, who has made these things into issues we all have to care about, right?
Starting point is 00:19:39 Nobody gives a shit is what I'm saying about fucking drag queens and drag queen stories. Nothing. It was nothing. It'd be like, Hey, you want to go see fucking drag queens and drag queen stories. Nothing. It was nothing. It'd be like, Hey, you want to go see a drag queen? Yes. No, maybe. I don't know. It doesn't matter. It's a non-issue for fucking decades. And now it's like a right wing fucking wedge issue, social culture war talking point. And she has leaned into it. And then this video turns up of her guy and her guy is straight up in drag and he's like yeah he's like taking his shoes off at the end of this drag thing that he did like as like a work reporter yeah as a reporter or something like a weatherman or whatever he was so he and he's like yeah i might keep the pantyhose on they're pretty comfortable like makes a little quip about it or whatever and that performance
Starting point is 00:20:20 in their mind and i think i understand why right that performance in their mind, and I think I understand why, right? That performance in their mind is okay. And the drag queens reading to your kids or the drag queens performing at the local drag show. At a drag brunch or whatever. Yeah. Or just a regular drag show in the evening, whatever. That's not okay. And here's why I think. Because they were making fun of it.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Yeah. Yeah. So if they're making fun of it, right? Then it's perfectly fine. Then it's fine. Yeah. Because they're mocking you. Yeah. Yeah. So if they're making fun of it, right, then it's perfectly fine. Then it's fine. Yeah. Because they're mocking you because they're making fun of you because they're treating you like in a derogatory, denigrating, repudiative fashion. Sure. Sure. You know, I also think too, there's, there's another part of it too. And it's always them telling on themselves about sexualizing. And I feel like they sexualize everything. Yeah, man. And so when they see a drag queen,
Starting point is 00:21:07 then they immediately sexualize the child and they sexualize the drag queen. Yeah. And both of those things are upsetting to them. So they have to do, I mean, we know they sexualize children. We know they do this because they have purity balls, man. Yeah. These are little kids.
Starting point is 00:21:23 These aren't teenagers even. Yeah, man. The left isn't doing man. These are little kids. These aren't teenagers even. The left isn't doing this. These are little babies. These are six, seven-year-old kids. A six or seven-year-old kid is a baby. That is a little thing. It is a tiny, tiny little person. It is a very, very unformed human being.
Starting point is 00:21:38 It is not a sexual being at all at that age. And they sexualize them. They pledge their virginity to their father at that age. And they sexualize them. They pledge their virginity to their father at like seven. You tell on yourself all the time. All the time when you have these weird
Starting point is 00:21:55 rituals about worrying about your child's sexuality at seven. You do this to you. You're the one working yourself up about all this you're the one who sexualizes everything that's why you you hate trans people because you can't just treat people like people you have to treat everyone like an object and that's on you that's not on anyone else man they are sex-obsessed weirdos yes like the right is full of sex-obsessed weirdos. They are so intentionally repressive
Starting point is 00:22:26 because they are sex-obsessed and sex-scared, right? They're absolutely terrified of sex and sexuality in all forms, formats, and fashions, and they cannot stop thinking about it. They cannot stop seeing every man, woman, and child as some form of a sexual object, either a sexual object of desire or a sexual object to be acted upon inappropriately.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Everything comes back to sex for these guys. This is the right, are the people that can't watch a fucking Disney movie. They can't go out into the world and engage the world in a way that is non-sexual. All of their engagements, all of the rights engagements with the world have these deep, weird sexual undertones. They read sex and sexuality into like the most banal, nothing fucking events and movies and literature and you know everything for these guys is sex
Starting point is 00:23:26 it's just it's always it's all they're thinking about yeah it's all they're fucking otherwise because i like i see this i see a drag show and it's just like people having a fucking laugh you know what i mean they're doing whatever they want that's what it is it's not like this it's not this like fucking boner event. You know what I mean? It's like, how weird is that? Right. That you've got to go there and turn it into something like that.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Right. I wonder too, I don't know if there's any oxygen here, but I wonder too, if like the left should really, really start to be using the Bible to go after divorcees. Oh.
Starting point is 00:24:01 As a way to be like, cause a lot of these people are prominent divorcees. Yeah. And I have no problem with divorce. I think divorce is actually a very healthy thing. Right. You know, there are people in bad relationships. They need to get out of it. I'm a hundred percent for it. But I wonder if, you know, just like people go out of their way to be like, you know, like the people who are like, yeah, we're going to start a club where it's a Satan club or whatever. The same thing could be said and could be true in a way to be like, you know what? We're going to
Starting point is 00:24:27 start a whole league that's against divorce. It's a hundred percent against divorce and it's 100% biblically rooted. It is everything about it. The entire thing just pulls quote after quote after quote and piece of the Bible after piece of the Bible to talk about how bad divorce is. And unlike homosexuality, which does not feature in the New Testament at all, Jesus had some shit to say about divorce. And there's plenty of moments in the Bible that you could probably glean on.
Starting point is 00:24:59 And then you could use that as your statement and to be like, we are 100% against, we want to start a coalition to ban divorce in the United States. I think that would be genuinely interesting. Because there's, I mean, because like two months ago, you got Lauren Boebert standing on a stage saying,
Starting point is 00:25:17 if you chase after Jesus, your husband will chase after you. And then she's divorced. Yeah. Right. Two months later. Right. I mean,
Starting point is 00:25:24 two months later, she's divorced. Yep. You know, I don't Right. Yeah. Two months later, she's divorced. Yep. You know, I don't care. I don't care. That's why I get a divorce. Get married tomorrow and divorce.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I don't fucking care. But at the same time, I don't blame anyone for divorce. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's a hypocrisy thing. Right. You know,
Starting point is 00:25:40 where you're just like, like you're selling yourself as this person who's biblically rooted. Well, you know, and you're selling all these other things that are biblically rooted. And if you can knock down one, and I don't know if it works, right? Because we talked about, you know, having a satire group that might backfire. So I don't know how well that works, but there was something that occurred to me, especially with her and Bobert, where it's like, you know, they're all like your religion also says bad things about divorce and you don't seem to care about that. You're very selective about that. And the problem Cecil is that for you and I, we would see that and see the contradiction. And then as a result of the contradiction, we would ask deeper questions about the foundation that undergirds that. right? But I think the reality is that the Bible is full of some really deep contradictions. And none of them, you know, like the Bible, I was just talking to someone today,
Starting point is 00:26:34 as a matter of fact, the guy who helped me move. So I hired this 22-year-old kid to help me move. And he wanted to ask me some questions about what I thought about the afterlife and all this. And we got into a pretty nice, deep discussion. But it was like, you know, the Bible- What do you think about the afterlife, Tom? Not a lot.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I think it's- Well, I'll tell you what I told him, though. You know, I was like, look, I've already had the afterlife for four billion years. Yeah. I already wasn't. I already was the afterlife, the before life, the pre-life. I was like, so like, I get my blip for four billion years. I already wasn't.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And then I get my blip for 4 billion years. I already wasn't. And then I get a blip. And then for however many more billion years I get a wasn't again. Yeah. And it'll be just like that. I was like, I asked him, I was like, have you ever had general anesthesia? It's not like going to sleep. It's like somebody turns a light switch off and you're just not anymore. And then someone turns a light switch on and you back R and it is the most insane experience because it isn't insane, because it is so binary and so swift and so like actual. I was like, I feel like it's like, it's like that.
Starting point is 00:27:34 What was the time lapse I didn't experience? It was nothing. I think that that's what it is. And we were talking about like the Bible and we were talking about like determinism and free will. And I was like, look, the Bible is self-contradictory on the issue of determinism and free will. Determinism is necessarily contradictory to free will. They cannot coexist, but the Bible is full of deterministic passages and passages extolling free will. But those two things are necessarily mutually exclusive.
Starting point is 00:28:05 The underlying philosophical foundation is itself exclusive. Sure. I just don't think they care. Yeah. I think they're just like... It's pick and choose, though. Yeah, man. It's like choose your own adventure.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Whatever preacher wants this week, he can choose. Yeah. He can just find it. He worked his way through page 22, and then he opened the door, and then he went to the vault, and then he got a key, and then whatever. Exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:27 He figured it all out, yeah. Wait a minute, everybody listen to me. When did you all decide to sit in judgment? Who elected all of you to be the saviors of everybody's souls in Beaumont? Reverend, we have a perfect right to determine what our children... Roger. When you burned all of these, what are you going to do then? This story comes from the Washington Post.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Their high school canceled an LGBTQ play. These teens put it on anyway. I just thought this was a really beautiful story. Yeah. So in the sense that these teenagers, the thrust of the story is this. These teenagers at their local high school, they wanted to put on a play.
Starting point is 00:29:11 The play was an LGBTQ friendly play. It had centered around themes of gender and diversity. It was like non-binary like star or whatever. Right. The person who's playing the, I think the main character, one of the main characters is non-binary. And you're like, that's really cool.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And the nut jobs basically got it canceled, right? So they went to the school and they're like, it's fucking canceled. And so these teens were like, yeah, but you can't cancel something that we want to do, that we feel deeply about doing. And so they basically did a GoFundMe or Kickstarter or some fundraising.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I forgot what they did. Someone helped them. They raised like 80,000 bucks and they did it. They rented out a theater. They put it on themselves. They sold that fucker out. Yeah, they sold it out. And it looks, and here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:29:57 You read this story and it's beautiful. You're right. It's beautiful. Yeah. Because these, these kids really got something out of it. They enjoyed the time that they're there. You know, I did some theater when I was in high school and that, some theater outside of school.
Starting point is 00:30:09 And theaters, there's such a cool reward during that show and after that show. It's such a cool thing, you know? And it teaches kids so much about themselves, about public speaking, about, you know, the nervousness you feel working together, you know, relying on other people. There's so much you learn because you do it. And they wanted that rewarding experience and they got it because they relied on each other and they relied on the
Starting point is 00:30:34 community. And it really turned out wonderful. But, you know, you hear these people, the people who are fighting against this and what they're fighting against is they don't want, what they don't want is they don't want this to happen because their religion says it's wrong. And you're like, that's cool. A great story. Don't have your kid in it. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:30:55 That's how you participate in this is you don't have your kid in it. And then when it plays at school, you don't let your kid go. If that matters to you, then that's how you do. You control your own family and you make decisions based on your own judgments and your own morals in your own family.
Starting point is 00:31:11 And that's how this works. But instead, they came out and the school knew there was going to be a bunch of shit about it. They were going to catch a nationwide health storm
Starting point is 00:31:20 if they did it. And they just shut it down. They're like, no, we're not going to do it. We're not going to invite that here because there's already crazy people in the board. And one of the things that I love about this story is that the lesson these kids got to learn
Starting point is 00:31:34 was that the world is full of bigots and you can fight them and win. Yeah. And I love that they were able to thumb their noses at these assholes. Because like, the thing is that the way to, it is never going to be the case that as a parent, as a person in the world, I mean, as somebody who's on the left,
Starting point is 00:31:55 I cannot look out at the world and say, I don't want my kids exposed to ideas from the right. And I am going to fight like hell to make sure that they're never exposed to ideas from the right. I don't take my kids to church, right? I would not take my kids to church. But I do not quake in fear that they meet someone religious. I do not quake in fear that they turn on the TV and see religious and religious-oriented messaging
Starting point is 00:32:21 and messaging that refers to religiosity. and religious-oriented messaging, and messaging that refers to religiosity. I am not nervous that I will lose control of their hearts and souls and minds if they are exposed to ideas that are not the same ideas that I expose them to and espouse in my home. Because I'm not afraid that my ideas are bullshit.
Starting point is 00:32:40 They're afraid their ideas are bullshit. You're absolutely right. And the lesson these kids got to learn was they don't fucking know anything. Yeah. And with a little bit of hard work or a lot of hard work, we can do what the fuck we want anyway. And we can put our thumb in the eye of authoritarians. Yeah. And I love that they learned that lesson. Yeah. You're so spot on when you say that too, because there is a deep fear that they will, that they will run into something that they can't control anymore. You see this in cults all the time. They block people off from the rest of
Starting point is 00:33:10 the world. You know, you're doing the exact same thing a cult does when you, you know, when you don't let those people go on the internet or whatever. And like, you know, they keep them in a fucking house, make them wear, they all say all the same clothes. They don't let them have a TV or whatever. And they cloister people off in a cult. You're doing the same thing when you're blocking out anything that you don't want your kids to see. When you block it out, not just for your kid, but for all kids. You're making it so that you're essentially turning the entire United States into your cult.
Starting point is 00:33:40 And that's outrageous that we keep letting this happen. And we keep letting it happen because of small voting, small groups across this country, even in blue states. Yeah. There are plenty of red school boards and we just let them do it. We let them do it. And we can't, Gen Z, the millennials, the younger people need to stop up and take those positions away from them. And they need to do it because they need to put their people up and they need to show up in force and vote. And we do believe they will. I think that they could easily knock a lot of these red school boards right out of whack.
Starting point is 00:34:18 All these people could show up and scream at the top of their lungs and be like, that's very nice. You do that in your home. This is a school. That's the end of the discussion. And we're moving on. Moving on. Next order of business. Scream their Bible verses during open mic night or whatever they're doing.
Starting point is 00:34:34 You know, they're doing their fucking beat poetry or whatever it is. Doesn't matter. They're fucking right wing slam poetry. You do your thing, whatever you go do your thing in your house. Yeah. But you could easily turn the tide in this country. board. You do your thing, whatever. You go do your thing in your house. Yeah. But you could easily turn the tide in this country
Starting point is 00:34:47 with, you know, five, 10 years. You could easily turn the tide on all these red school boards across the country if you started working these small elections. It's possible. It is. And in many districts, at least, unlike the Senate, there are no age requirements.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Yeah. There are no age requirements. There are no age requirements. You do not have to wait until you own property or are a certain age. In many, many, many, many, many jurisdictions, you can just run. And these young people at some point are going to get tired of being governed by people that seem so out of step with their values. And they are going to throw those people away. And those people will have fucking nothing left, Cecil. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:35:33 The only pickle a guy should put in his mouth is our Chick-fil-A classic. Yum. You made your point. We get it. Ladies, if you want to toss a salad, make it our Southwestern char-grilled salad with garlic and buttered croutons. Yeah, fine. Thank you, Chaz. If you want to toss a salad, make it our Southwestern char-grilled salad with garlic and buttered croutons.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Whoo! Yeah, fine. Thank you, Chaz. Please. Hey, dudes, if you want warm nuts all over your face, there's only one choice, our Chick-fil-A hot fudge sundae. Yay!
Starting point is 00:36:01 Stop. Stop right now. Hey, if you want hot meat stuck between two buns, covered in sauce the way God meant it to be enjoyed, it's Chick-fil-A or the Flames of Hell. All right, Chaz, the intolerant Chick-fil-A chicken. Eat up, you godless sodomite. And Tom, they're not even going to have their terrible chicken sandwiches left. They're not.
Starting point is 00:36:26 The story's from Gizmodo. I love this. Right-wingers consider fully canceling their once holy Chick-fil-A. So Chick-fil-A has long been boycotted by the left. Chick-fil-A is a fervently right-wing Christian organization that discriminates and donates money to further the discrimination against LGBTQ people. They said they stopped and they didn't.
Starting point is 00:36:48 They lied. Yep. They said they stopped. There was a year, like a while ago, they stepped up, said, we stopped.
Starting point is 00:36:53 We don't do that anymore. And then people dug in like, no man, you're still fucking doing it. Yeah. What they did is they funneled the money one step further.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Yeah, different direction. Yeah, they funneled the money. But they were shitting enormous amounts of money into anti-LGBTQ causes, right? Because they're a fervently, that's why they closed on Sunday. They're a fervently right-wing Christian organization, right?
Starting point is 00:37:16 But now the far right is all fucking worked up about Chick-fil-A because Chick-fil-A has the most milquetoast DEI statement. Yeah, and a DEI person. Yeah. They've had a DEI person and a DEI statement for years. It's just that the right-wing podcasters figured it out. See, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:37:38 It doesn't matter how long it's happened. There's a guy, one of these podcasters or one of these pundits on the right, I saw him tweet about the UN sustainability development goals about how evil they are and how that's communism or whatever. Those came out in 2000. Like 2007 was like when they were ratified
Starting point is 00:37:57 or something like that. This is 16 years. It's such a long time ago, but he's tweeting about it now because nobody else knows about it on his side because they're all completely, like they're completely unplugged from that stuff and so they don't know that people have been talking about these sustainability development goals for years
Starting point is 00:38:12 dude in that amount of time i've like i have a whole ass human being like finn my son went from not a person to drives a car whole ass human being being. Jesus Christ. Because they don't care. As long as they can squeeze the outrage out about it right now, it doesn't matter how long it's been around. So I do want to read the DEI statement. It's been on Chick-fil-A's page. This, guys, this is how fragile the right is. I just want you guys to get your torches ready.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Go ahead, Tom. Get your, this is the fucking milk toast. Sharpen those pitchforks. Nothing, burger. I need you to get your torches ready. Go ahead. This is the fucking milk toast. Sharpen those pitchforks. Nothing burger. I need you to get your grinding wheels out and your sharpening stones and just get those pitchforks nice and pointy. We are committed to ensuring mutual respect,
Starting point is 00:38:55 understanding, and dignity everywhere we do business. That's the whole statement. That's the whole DEI statement that is on their page. You can say a whole lot of nothing with one sentence. That's it whole statement. That's the whole DEI statement that is on their page. You could say a whole lot of nothing with one sentence. That's it. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:09 That's it. They're getting canceled by the anti-woke nut jobs who are just looking for their next cause celeb, as you pointed out, to stick a pitchfork in. Here's the thing. The purpose of the pitchfork is to be raised in the air. That is the purpose of the pitchfork. The purpose of the torch is to be lit.
Starting point is 00:39:33 They don't care if the cause is righteous. The purpose is not to find righteous causes and then to go out and make sure you have a pitchfork. No, they walk around with pitchforks and torches. That's what they walk around with. When all you have is a hammer, every problem is a nail. When all you have is pitchforks and torches, you will find some nothing in order to become outraged. If you can get outraged over, we are committed to ensuring mutual respect, understanding, and dignity everywhere we do business. That's nothing. Yeah. That's a nothing. That's
Starting point is 00:40:05 literally a nothing. That's literally a nothing. I oppose dignity. Where are we at that you oppose dignity? You know what the other thing I'm noticing too is I'm seeing a lot of posts of people going in and confronting people who like a target and sell stuff at target. I don't know if you remember that joker I covered a while back who walks around with his TikTok phone and goes harasses people in Target. And then he just gets fucking owned and then he has to leave and it's the best. But he went over and took something down and broke it.
Starting point is 00:40:36 And there's this one guy who posted a picture of himself. He said he took all the gay shit at Target and threw it all in a cart and pushed it into the back of the room or whatever. So they have to put it all back or whatever. Like, it's basically just like, you're being like a menace, right? Like you're being a shitty menace. You're going in, you're breaking stuff, you're moving stuff around, you're hiding stuff underneath, like, like inside other places or putting it in the bathroom. Cause you, cause you want to be a menace. Tom, I would never give a
Starting point is 00:41:02 single dollar to Chick-fil-A. You know what I don't do? I don't spend my whole day door dashing and canceling on Chick-fil-A. I don't do that. I don't fucking care. Like I just won't give you my money. Here's the thing. You have every right to exist. You have every right to use your corporate funds to hate gay people, whatever you want to do.
Starting point is 00:41:20 You'll never get a penny from me. That's my line. That's the line I draw. The difference is, is that I'm willing to say, you can do what you want, but I don't support you and I never will
Starting point is 00:41:30 versus you do something that makes me so upset. I will go and disrupt your business. There's a huge difference between those boycotts. There's a huge, look at what they're shooting now. Isn't the right kind of telling on themselves
Starting point is 00:41:44 about the things that they're pulling their guns out and shooting like Bud Light? This week, I saw someone shooting a target symbol, a couple of target symbols outside. Well, target shooting is a lot of fun. Admittedly, target shooting is a long tradition in this country.
Starting point is 00:41:56 But no, seriously, they're telling on themselves in some way by saying, look at what we're shooting. Look at what we're aiming our guns at. But this is a difference between a boycott and an active attack against another group of people. It's also, as an aside, it is also really something that if you pull the right, the right will tell you that we live in an increasingly violent America. And yet they're the ones shooting everything as their symbol of protest. Right. Right. Right. Like, we are not, I am not raising my hand and saying that, oh, you know what, we live in a violent country. We need to be all,
Starting point is 00:42:37 all of us need to be armed all the time because nut jobs with guns are going to kill us all. Right. That's the right. The right is saying we got to be armed because there's, you know, the world is full of crazy people with guns. And then they're like, it is show you how that we're, we're going to get our guns out and do crazy shit. And I'm just like, man, do you see you are telling on you again, you're shooting shit. You're vandalizing stuff. You're like, Oh, America's gone to pot. It's full of lunatics with guns. We got to get guns into the hands of more lunatics. What?
Starting point is 00:43:11 What's happening? You're eating your own tail, assholes. Tiny classified ads. This story comes from CNN Politics Exclusive. Trump captured on tape talking about classified document he kept after leaving the White House. He's in trouble, dude. This seems really bad.
Starting point is 00:43:31 This seems really bad. The leaked report essentially says that he was talking to some people who were writing a book about Mark Meadows. By the way, this whole article goes to great pains to say that Mark Meadows never spoke about this ever. That guy, in my opinion, of all the people that Trump had on his-
Starting point is 00:43:52 Yeah, I think I know where you're going. He seems like the smartest one- Yeah, man. To just be like, I am not talking to anybody. I'm not going to talk to the Senate when they call me. I'm not going to talk to anybody. I'm not talking to anyone. Even when that like Cassidy,
Starting point is 00:44:05 I think her name was Cassidy Hutchins worked for Mark Meadows. Yeah. Like she'd be like, yeah, Mark didn't really say much. I'd be like, come into the office and be like, Hey, what's going on? And be like, Hey, so just relax. We're just going to let things play out. Or, you know, like he just barely said anything. Yeah. He holds a job the way I hold my job right i was just like i bet if i wait a little bit this problem will just go away probably go away and you're like yeah did it go away yeah solved another one like for real yeah yeah and and in this in this conversation about this this book that's being written by mark meadows this this recorder is on and Trump is talking about the United States
Starting point is 00:44:46 possibly planning a war with Iran. And he says he still has the paperwork. He walks over, takes a top secret report and he's waving it around saying, you know, I mean, he's talking to people
Starting point is 00:44:57 and they're having a laugh about it. But this is not something that he should have been doing or should have had. And he's also like the other stuff that came out that said that he should have been doing or should have had. And he's also like the other stuff that came out that said that he knew the actual process to declassify. It's not that he just went, no, no, no, no, no. He never believed you could just think it. But it's so funny that this comes out and, and this one is the one that I feel like everybody's stepping away like, okay,
Starting point is 00:45:23 no. Cause there's been a lot of stuff all the way through. And most people have been like, eh. And even in that call to Georgia, there's people who could argue one way or the other. This one feels real bad. This feels real bad, man. This feels real bad. This feels real bad. The thing is, I think that by the time 2024 rolls around, he might be under as many as three fucking indictments he might be trying to defend himself and under three indictments in three different jurisdictions at the same time that he's campaigning i do think that his campaign for president is a hail mary attempt to avoid jail yeah right i think that he knows that if he gets the nomination and secures the presidency, that all the rest of those indictments are never,
Starting point is 00:46:11 no one's going to throw this sitting president in jail. All the rest of that stuff kind of just goes away or gets paused, gets put on hold. And then he can kind of wait it out. You know, like this is what rich people do. Well, and then he, he would, he would quash those investigations. He would, he would destroy those investigations. He would hand them off to somebody and be like, go ahead and do it and just make sure it fails. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And, but like, I want to make the point too, that like one thing that rich people do to game the system is they play the system out against itself over a long enough timeline that the system fails under its own weight. Sure. Right?
Starting point is 00:46:46 So, and that means that very often people who are on the other side of a complaint from someone who's very wealthy, they just run out of money to keep fighting. People in politics, they are no longer in office. Yeah. If you can run the clock out long enough, you don't actually have to get to the point of a verdict. The point, if you're rich enough, is to never get to a verdict, to never get to a point of settlement or verdict. It is to just hit the fucking pause button, hit the continuation button,
Starting point is 00:47:15 constantly run out the clock. Eventually, that DA is going to retire. Eventually, that DA is going to move on to another job. Eventually, that plaintiff that is suing you is going to run out of money. And the whole thing goes away. Rich people game the system by breaking the timeline. And Trump has done that his whole life. Yeah, he has. And I think he thinks that if he can become president, he'll be able to do it again. And I think he will.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Because he only has to out-survive. Yeah, if he becomes president, you're absolutely right. I am interested to see where this goes. This story, this will translate a little bit into the next story
Starting point is 00:47:54 that we're going to cover, which is the debt ceiling. Yeah. Right? And so, the debt ceiling stuff to me shows there really is
Starting point is 00:48:01 genuinely a rift in the Republican Party right now. There is a rift in the Republican party right now. There is a rift. The, the vote was voted on last night, I believe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:10 And there's, there's Democrats who didn't agree because they took, they, because this should have just been the debt ceiling. Let's do it. The end. It should be procedural. And it's not,
Starting point is 00:48:21 what they did was they tacked shit onto it and they shouldn't be able to do that, but they have control of the House by a slim but sizable enough majority where they can make demands. That's not how it normally works. No. But that's how it was going to work this time. There was no getting around it. And there's
Starting point is 00:48:39 some Democrats who are like, fuck you. How about eat a dick? I'm not voting for this. There's also a good number of Republicans who voted against this as well because they wanted way more concessions. They in fact didn't care if it went to default. They were like, no, let it run into the ground. Don't care at all. And then there was what seems to be sensible people that, and I don't want to say that the Democrats that voted against it weren't sensible. I think they probably were. They're just very staunch. They wanted to,
Starting point is 00:49:09 they 100% wanted to not have anything attached to this, because that's not how it should work. Well, I think what they wanted to do was force it to be adjudicated through the 14th Amendment. Yeah. So the 14th Amendment, some people believe, would have, would give the president power to basically throw the debt
Starting point is 00:49:28 ceiling conversation in the trash. That's a risky argument when you've got a Supreme Court, which would certainly adjudicate it, that is as heavily Republican as it is right now. I think if we had a reasonable Supreme Court, it might be a better argument. I would not want to take any argument to the Supreme Court as a Democratic president right now. Counterpoint. What happens to the economy if the debt ceiling thing fails? The global economy crashes worse than the 2008 crashes. Our economy crashes too. Yes. So our stock market crashes. A hundred, yeah. A lot of these people have their money tied up in the stock market. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:08 I think the moment you start to see things really dipping for them, they change their mind real quick about what happens. Yeah. The moment it hurts them. Yeah, I don't disagree with you. I think that they would change their mind very, very quickly.
Starting point is 00:50:21 It damages the whole world. Yeah. But I think like they would see, it's like, you know, it damages the whole world. But I think like they would, they would see, it's like, you know, touching a stove, right? It would touch the stove and then be realized. No, you know what? I, I was a bad idea. I shouldn't have done that. That's on me. And there's a part of me that thinks I get it. And I know that it's a damaging thing for everybody, but I, I think that they are afraid and the smart ones are very afraid. That's what I think. I think the smart ones are very afraid.
Starting point is 00:50:51 I think if you have any fucking sense, and I want to do a real quick recap for any international listeners. So we do this, we're the only country that does this, right? So what we do in this crazy fucking country with our crazy ass system is we pass legislation and then later we decide how we're going to fund that legislation. So we pass a whole bunch of programs and rules and ongoing commitments that have a financial requirement to them. And then that requires that we raise the debt ceiling. So the debt ceiling is basically America's ability to sell bonds out on the market in order to produce revenue on a debt basis in order to pay for promises we have already made. So we don't raise the debt ceiling for net new spending. We raise the debt ceiling to pay for spending that we've already committed to. We've already made these decisions.
Starting point is 00:51:47 This is something only America does. And then the approval process for that used to be simply a procedural process. Now, the Republicans have weaponized over the past, really since Obama, they have weaponized the debt ceiling process. When Trump was in office, it's three times the debt ceiling process. When Trump was in office, it's three times the debt ceiling had to go up, three times he gets voted on, boom, boom, boom. It goes through and it's passed.
Starting point is 00:52:12 And just to point out, like one of those, the House was controlled by Democrats. Yeah. And the thing is that if we were to default on, if we were not to pass this, so every once in a while, just again, every once in a while, just again, every once in a while,
Starting point is 00:52:27 the government will fail to reach a budget and go into shutdown. The government shuts down. That's different than the debt ceiling crisis. I don't think those people understand that. Yeah. So the debt ceiling- Not the overseas listeners.
Starting point is 00:52:39 I'm talking about the Republicans. Just people in general. Yeah. I don't think they'd get it either. I think they think it would be the same as when we fail to pass a budget and government shuts down for a few weeks and people get furloughed. And then they come back and we pay them and then we all say we're sorry and it sucked. bondholders, the value of the American dollar and our credit rating as an international credit rating as a country will overnight collapse. And the dollar is the international monetary unit.
Starting point is 00:53:15 It is the default currency of the world that is used for trading and valued against. It would cause a global economic crisis that would probably last for years. This would be, even if it got fixed in two weeks, it would erode economic confidence in the largest economic engine in the world. It can't happen. It just cannot. If it happens, it'll make 2008 look like nothing. Sure. It'll be horrible. It's terrible. It's terrible. And there are Republicans that are willing to play ball with that. No, they're not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:49 No, they're not. I know, right? They know that they can. Their wealth is way more tied into that than you or I's wealth. I mean, granted, our jobs are tied into it, right? So like we could lose our job because of something like this.
Starting point is 00:54:00 But their overall wealth is, I mean, it's mostly in that. Can you imagine the kind of hit they would take if something like that happens? They could lose half their wealth overnight. I mean, they would, that would be an enormous blow. And I think a lot of them recognize that. And I think the dumb ones once in a while get dragged to the side and be like, what the fuck? But what happened was McCarthy went to talk to President Biden. Biden had conversations with him. They both kind of came with some things that they weren't going to take off the table. What wound up happening was they put in some work requirements for SNAP, but expanded SNAP at the same time. So they expanded SNAP and they also built in some leverage to keep expanding it.
Starting point is 00:54:46 So that's another good thing. And the funny thing is, is that he put the work requirements in knowing that they're probably going to pass these anyway. And so like, you know, there's nothing you could do to sort of slow this stuff down. So he, he sort of gave them things that he knew probably he wasn't going to keep anyway. There's nothing he could do about it. And in a savvy way, I think he negotiated this position with them and didn't really give them a lot. And they
Starting point is 00:55:13 kind of walked away without much, but some talking points that they could shout at the people who don't really know a lot about what's happening behind the scenes. And what happened was McCarthy comes back comes back after he's like, and I want to point out, just,
Starting point is 00:55:28 just very, very short time ago, it took him 17, 14 times or something to get voted in. I mean, so many times, this is a guy who is not well liked by every single Republican. He puts this to a vote and a lot of Democrats and a lot of Republicans vote for
Starting point is 00:55:46 it. But there's a big contingent of both sides that don't. And I also want to point out too, that they put in some rules to try to strip McCarthy and anyone else in the future of that position. And they put those rules in that people can start calling those votes. So I would watch for a vote like that coming from this far right portion. Oh yeah. Soon to try to get him out of there.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Gates even said, I will basically make his life hell. And I think one of the backdoor deals that probably got made was the Democrats would be like, okay, well, if they fucking try to vote you out of there, we'll just keep you in there or whatever. You know what I mean? And in a lot of ways, he's the lesser of two evils if he can get this stuff done.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Because if Marjorie Taylor Greene was there, you'll never get anything done. She's an absolute stump. And she'd burn the whole thing down. Because she doesn't get it. Because you're exactly right. There is a howler contingent of dipshits that does not understand.
Starting point is 00:56:47 They won't understand. They don't get it. Yeah. You know, and like McCarthy is a weak leader. Yes. He's a weak leader. I love, you know, I'm stealing from an article that I put in the notes, but like, I love that the right got outmaneuvered hard by a guy that they constantly deride as senile.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Yeah. They constantly talk about Joe Biden as if he's senile, as if he's incompetent, as if he's mentally deficient. And they're like, oh, I guess he really out hardballed us. Because McCarthy's not a powerful leader. He doesn't come swing a dick when he walks in that room. No, he comes like shoulder shrugged, man. Yeah. I, I am a little, I'm a little ticked that, you know, we have to give something. I am a lot more with those Democrats on the left. Those ones that didn't vote for, I'm a lot more with them because for me,
Starting point is 00:57:40 I'm like, there shouldn't be anything. This shouldn't be this fight every single year when you're in power and the other people aren't to figure this out. You hash this shit out. It should not happen. Hash this shit out in your bills when you're fighting over this other stuff. There's some other stuff that you can't fuck up on.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Don't fuck up on this. And I feel like you're giving them, in some ways, you're rewarding bad behavior. And you're saying, this is bad behavior, but I'm going to allow it. And then now you're just going to ask for that bad behavior every single time. And is this something that the Democrats
Starting point is 00:58:12 are going to start to do? When they hold the House, and there's a Republican president, are they going to start to hold the country? Because I don't want to see that happen from the other side either, right? I don't want to see that happen. And so there's a big part of me,
Starting point is 00:58:23 and especially when it comes to fucking with people's snap benefits, I'm like, fuck your face. Okay. That money, there's nothing there. All they want to do is hurt people. That's all that money. That's literally their priority. They just want to hurt people. And that's upsetting because like they, they're, they're pissed about spending, but it's the tiny piddly fucking nothing spendings that they're so upset about. And it's, and it's because they just want to fucking hurt people. That's it. Because I'll tell you what, and, and, and if there's any confusion about how true that is or whether or not that's true, do you know what was never on the table was Pentagon spending. Right. What was never on the table is defense and military spending.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And a lot of that's discretionary. A lot of that's discretionary. Yep. Yeah, a lot of that you can easily negotiate. Yep. We spend an inordinate amount of money on ordinance. Yeah, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:19 You know? Yeah. And like, it's insane that that shit is never on the table. No one comes to the table and says, hey, you know what? We can feed America if we buy less fucking aircraft carriers. We can actually give people an education where they don't have to go broke in order to have it,
Starting point is 00:59:39 but we got to buy less guided missiles. We are always, the default assumption is we're buying all the guided missiles and all the aircraft carriers. Plenty of money for missiles, man. And then whatever we have left over, then that will dole out the fucking pittance. And there's also plenty
Starting point is 00:59:56 of money left over for building more prisons and there's always money left over for arming our fucking local police officers like fucking military grade weapons there's always plenty of money for all that stuff that stuff's never in question and and the the thing that we're questioning is whether or not somebody should get fucking snap benefits yeah like eat fuck your face man this is the fucking worst thing and and that it
Starting point is 01:00:23 just makes me crazy like Like it makes me mad. Yeah, man. I get upset by that. But it's like, I also understand too that Biden is doing, he's doing the thing that he knows is necessary.
Starting point is 01:00:33 But sometimes it's a hard decision even for the people who you represent. Oh, 100%. He's representing me and it's a hard decision for him to make. And I'm like, fuck you.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Like I pull back from this. I'm like, fuck you, man. Yeah. Don't fucking do that. Those people, you know, I know what it's like to live on fucking food stamps. That's not a lot of money. That's a tiny fucking amount of money.
Starting point is 01:00:51 That's nothing. It's a nothing amount of money that you have to like, and you remember, what was it? 10 years ago, there was this fad where rich people were trying to live on food stamps for a week or whatever. And they were just like, fucking, I made it like a day.
Starting point is 01:01:05 And they fucking ran out of money. There's, fucking, I made it like a day. Right. And they fucking ran out of money. There's no fucking, like I bought like one avocado. Yeah, like I bought an avocado and a half a thing of salsa and I literally can't buy anything else. And you know,
Starting point is 01:01:14 like, like it's, it's a tiny pittance of money already. And then putting in work requirements to have it, you're like, you know, the problem is, is that,
Starting point is 01:01:23 is that they're, they're, they're doing this because like I said before, they're doing it because they know it hurts people and they, and they want those people to hurt. They want to show because they want to show all their constituents that they're hurting those people because that gets them to vote. Because that's exactly right.
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