Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 698: Leaky Brain

Episode Date: June 26, 2023

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Starting point is 00:01:30 It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no submarine. This is an episode. Jesus Christ. Submersible. Submersible. There is a difference.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Submersible. There is a difference. It exploded. This is an episode. I don't know when you're hearing this. It won't be that fresh. Here's the thing. By the time you're hearing this,
Starting point is 00:01:52 the news won't be quite as fresh. We heard today, so there was this big uproar about the submersible that went down to look at the Titanic. They were charging $250,000 a person to ride down in a fucking basically what felt like a minivan with no seats.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Yeah, so here's the thing. That sounds like a lot, but there is a punch card. So if you go down five times, your sixth visit is free. So, you know, for those saying like, oh, it's an extravagance for the ultra wealthy. Yeah, okay, but it, for those saying like, oh, it's an extravagance for the ultra wealthy. Yeah, okay. But it pays for itself. We're blowing up with deals down here at Crazy Kaplan's.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Yeah, man. Oh, God. It was a real high pressure situation. It was high pressure. High pressure sales. High pressure situation time because they esplodinated under the water. Imploded it.
Starting point is 00:02:39 They went down. They went down to, this is like 10,000 feet deep. I mean, it's an insane depth. And the submersible just imploded. They suspect it imploded the day that they lost contact with it, which was several days ago.
Starting point is 00:02:55 A lot of people have been worried that people are down on the bottom of the ocean banging on a side of a submersible. That's what I was worried about until I came here to eat hair with you. What a terrifying way to go. Yeah, because that's what happened with that, remember that Russian submarine, the Kursk? Oh my gosh, yeah. The Kursk, they were just like, oh, we're still down here. There's a lot of water and oil and shit. And
Starting point is 00:03:13 they're banging on shit. Yeah, but this is different. They wound up basically, I mean, it just exploded. I mean, imploded, blew up, and then they were, you know, instantly killed. Killed before they probably knew it. There was a person who was talking on the television today, talking about how they probably died before their bodies even knew what happened. It happens in nanoseconds. Like, the crush happens in nanoseconds. And it immediately just disintegrates and falls into, you know, component parts onto the ground.
Starting point is 00:03:42 disintegrates and falls into component parts onto the ground. But this was a $250,000 person tripped down there. And this guy has been cutting corners, embarrassingly cutting corners and flying in the face of
Starting point is 00:03:58 all the regulations and the people who even inspect this stuff. He didn't want to have anything to do with it. He's dead now. He didn't want to have anything to do. He's dead now. He didn't want anything to do with it. He was driving it down with like an Xbox controller, like a Logitech game controller he was using. It had no navigation system, no real communication system. He was using like text messages to get up.
Starting point is 00:04:20 He was cutting every single corner. BRB. Seriously. I mean, like, yeah. And it is, it exploded. And then we mobilize, you know, we didn't know. So we mobilize thinking they're like floating or bobbing in the ocean or stuck at the bottom. A massive international effort, man. An intense amount. And, and, you know, the only reason we're talking about this is because it reminded both of us of just a perfect example of libertarianism because they don't want any kind of oversight, no regulation, but the moment everything fucks up, they're like,
Starting point is 00:04:54 we got to help us. You got to bail and literally bail us out. I mean, like there's no better way to say it when you're talking about water than bail us out. Yeah. In an instant like this, the phrase, the market will sort it out is a literal cold comfort. It is a freezing cold comfort. Yeah. It's, and, but that's, that's, that's what you hear from libertarians all the time, right? They, they pretend that there is an acceptable level of human cost to the market will sort shit out. But the thing is that like a lot of how the market sorts things out results in unimaginable pain and suffering and death.
Starting point is 00:05:31 That's how the market sort, the market does not sort things out in a way that yields like the most positive results. They take this like really like infantile libertarianism, take libertarians, take this very infantile view of the economy. Like, well, and if you don't like the store, then you won't go to the store
Starting point is 00:05:49 and then the store will have to change its practices or go out of business. And you're like, okay, fine. But what if you are a submersible company and you got in the submersible and they had done like 12 other missions before, but you didn't know that they were cutting all these corners
Starting point is 00:06:04 and you had no idea. And then you got in and you imploded two miles below the ocean floor. Like you don't have consumer like power then that reaches out from the grave and is like, I am vindicated. I've boycotted your company, Titan Sub. And like, it's even worse.
Starting point is 00:06:26 And I was thinking about this as we were walking upstairs. We talked about this over dinner just before the show. Like, it's even worse when you think about how badly libertarianism as a thought process works to protect people when the companies get bigger and bigger. Yeah. So I just was listening to a story the other day about Johnson & Johnson through one of their subsidiaries called Janssen. And they had marketed for a long time in like the early 2010s. They had marketed a drug called Risperdal. And they marketed this drug even though they knew that the drug caused a whole bunch of really serious and dangerous side effects. And they ended up having to pay a $2.2 billion fine because they got caught.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Like, federal regulators caught them and looked through their shit, and all their shit was like, we know this causes these really horrible side effects, but, like, shrug emoji, right? They were like, shrug emoji. So they get fined $2.2 billion. But it doesn't mean anything, because that, against the total revenues they made
Starting point is 00:07:26 selling Risperdal was a drop in the fucking bucket. The company is still alive and well, and literally nothing happens to them. So these companies do the math and they just realize like, yeah, all right. Well, I mean, if I get caught, like shrug emoji, I'll write a check. Nothing bad will happen to me. There's no criminal penalties for me as the decision maker. Sure. These are not existential penalties almost ever. Yeah. They're not existential penalties.
Starting point is 00:07:52 So like the market doesn't sort shit out. No, no. The market literally doesn't sort any of this shit out. Like if we don't insist on regulation, we get imploding submersibles. And we have to go search for them, mobilize millions of dollars worth of equipment and people and travel out 400 miles into the middle of the sea
Starting point is 00:08:14 to go search for these people. And somebody's footing the bill for that. And we talked a little bit about maybe there's a possibility that you recoup some of that money from the people who you save, right? There's a possibility you recoup some of that money from the people who you save, right? There's a possibility you recoup some of that money. But, you know, the fact is, is that, is that I'm very happy for technology to take us to a place that allows
Starting point is 00:08:36 humans to go to the bottom of the ocean. I'm very happy. It's awesome. I'm happy for that. What I, what I, what I, I hate is the fact that there's a guy out there who flies in the face of every engineer. There's a giant arms-long list of people who signed a petition that basically were like, this thing is unsafe. And you're talking about a guy who's flying in the face of all these people saying,
Starting point is 00:08:59 I'm cutting corners and I'm doing this. And he's charging a lot of money. And then we have to come in and try to scoop him up after it's all said and done. And that, like I said, it's a perfect example. I mean, it's fucking, you could write fucking Atlas Shrugged
Starting point is 00:09:12 and this is the ending, right? This is the ending of Atlas Shrugged. Yep, yeah. This is the inevitable conclusion of like when greed meets a lack of regulation. It's exactly it. And I would love to see more innovation. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I'm not saying that we shouldn't try to innovate and try to make, that's an exciting place. Fuck, we might have to live down there when it gets too hot up here. Who the fuck knows? You know what I mean? So, but to understand what's, you know, the world that you live in deeper is an important thing.
Starting point is 00:09:45 I'm not shitting on that. And I think that I don't know that this particular, I don't know, jaunt down to the bottom of the ocean is that, right? They're not really trying. They're looking at an old boat that broke down. It's like, okay, well, I don't know that you're learning. But still, I want to see the ability to get down there easier is an awesome thing. And it would be amazing. But, you know, it's the regulation and it's the fucking Xbox controller and the carbon fiber barrel that you made.
Starting point is 00:10:14 And the window that's only rated for half the way down. Things like that that are, you know, we should all just say, okay, no, regulation is good. We should actually pay attention to that shit. Yeah, well, I mean, 2008 housing crisis was the inevitable result of libertarian deregulation. And the market did sort it out. Yeah. But how many people lost their homes?
Starting point is 00:10:35 Yes. And the market sorted it out in the sense that the government stepped in and fucking fixed it. Yeah, we had to fix it. And it's so funny because those guys are like, market deregulation, free enterprise, free markets. And it's like, all right, well, if the government had not stepped in
Starting point is 00:10:50 with incredibly aggressive and financially costly interventions, we would have spiraled not just into a great recession, but into an international depression. Yeah, a deep depression. And everybody on that fucking libertarian train was happy as fucking could be to take advantage of all of the government programs,
Starting point is 00:11:12 the government money, and the government interventions. And all of a sudden, everybody gets real fucking quiet when the sub is imploding, man. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. They all of a sudden get,
Starting point is 00:11:21 like all of a sudden, they're not fucking talking about Joe Rogan anymore and buying Bitcoin and whatever else stupid shit these idiots not fucking talking about Joe Rogan anymore and buying Bitcoin and whatever else stupid shit these idiots do speaking of Joe Rogan I want to play this for you Tom you don't know anything about this I found this today and I wanted to play this for you
Starting point is 00:11:36 I'm going to put it on the big screen when Twitter finally loads right okay so you gotta love Twitter by the way. I've tried three times to ambiginate this, and every time I come back, it says the tweet has been deleted, but it hasn't. So I've got to
Starting point is 00:11:51 watch it on this skeptic board that I found it on. I can't make it big. Sorry, guys. Twitter's API or whatever doesn't work anymore. Things including causing cancer. Wi-Fi radiation causes cancer. Yeah, from your cell phone. I mean, there are cell phone tumors.
Starting point is 00:12:07 You know, I mean, I'm representing hundreds of people who have cell phone tumors behind the ear. It's always on the ear that you favor with your cell phone. And, you know, we have the science. So if anybody lets us in front of a jury, it will be over. So what is the number? Because a lot of people... There's a lot of people with it.
Starting point is 00:12:27 They're glioblastomas. That's the kind of cancers that they get. But cancer is not the worst thing. They also, you know, it opens up... Wi-Fi radiation opens up your blood-brain barrier. Okay, so... Excuse me, what? When was the last time you held your phone to your...
Starting point is 00:12:44 I don't hold my phone to my ear ever. See, so let's talk about that alone. I mean, what are you talking about? Like, who's walking around? Everybody has earphones. Everybody's talking. I don't ever see anybody this. I always see this.
Starting point is 00:12:56 This is what I see all the time. People walking down the road, they have their phone, and then they're like, I'm going to put this on big so we can see. And they're talking like this as they walk down the street. They're always talking like this. When I'm in my car, it's a hundred percent through my speaker system. Right. And that's not, I don't own like a fucking, I don't own a Maserati. I own a regular fucking car. Right. That's what all cars have nowadays. I do the headphones old school. I'm on the phone like a lot. I'm on the phone, like, a lot.
Starting point is 00:13:26 I'm on the phone a big, giant chunk of my workday. On my cell phone, like, maybe four hours, five hours a day talking on the phone. So most of my job is on the phone. And because I just plug old headphones. I plug in headphones, like an old person with wires and everything because that way the batteries never die, right? Like, nobody. wires and everything because that way the batteries never die, right? Sure. Like nobody, I should have a fucking, and also like why would it matter if it's Wi-Fi radiation?
Starting point is 00:13:50 Why would it matter what my phone was doing at all? My house is full of Wi-Fi. Yeah. Your house is full of Wi-Fi. The grocery store. The public library. Everything is Wi-Fi. Every place has Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 00:14:01 My phone. The guys who work in server rooms should just be cancerous tumors all over their body. What does my phone have to do with Wi-Fi. My phone. The guys who work in server rooms should just be cancerous tumors all over their body. What does my phone have to do with Wi-Fi at all? It receives Wi-Fi. It's not broadcasting Wi-Fi unless I turn the hotspot on. It can if it's a hotspot. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Like most of the time you're using your phone. I think he's talking about 5G and he doesn't know the difference. But that's the point. Like if you don't even know the base technologies that you're blaming these horrible ailments on, and then he says something like hundreds of people. Okay. And then Joe asked him, how many? And he said, well, it's a lot.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Yeah. But if it's hundreds of people have glioblastomas on the ear that they favor with their phone, that would be statistically insignificant compared to how many people have cell phones. I know, I know. Like a thousand people. If it's thousands, it wouldn't matter.
Starting point is 00:14:50 What is the rate of glioblastomas in that area prior to the invention of the cell phone? Do we have a comparative? Get out of here. It opens up your blood-brain barrier. Now we're going to get into the blood-brain barrier. It opens it up. Here's the reason why I want to play this for you. You got to get
Starting point is 00:15:06 the initial piece, right? So you get the initial piece, which is this guy's on Joe's show, and he's not... Joe doesn't push back on anything. Joe just is like, oh, well, how many people? Oh, that sounds really bad. So here's the second part of that conversation. Let's see if I can ambiginate it. Well, there we go.
Starting point is 00:15:20 if I can ambiginate it. Well, there we go. I just had it on there. I just had it on there. It was just working. I can't do it. It's not allowing me. I've got to just play it through here.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I'm sorry. I would make it big, but every time I try, Twitter freezes. What do you think Wi-Fi is doing to us since it's everywhere and since everyone's experiencing, including you? What do you think it's doing to us to us since it's everywhere and since everyone's experiencing, including you?
Starting point is 00:15:45 What do you think it's doing to us? I think it degrades your mitochondria and it opens your blood-brain barrier. Do you see anything online how it could open up your blood-brain barrier? I don't know about how, but I found an article. I was trying to find the validity of it, but it has a statement on here. Damage to the blood-brain barrier. Radiofrequency radiation exposure has been shown to affect the permeability of the blood-brain barrier as well
Starting point is 00:16:18 as altering the expression of microRNA within the brain, which researchers state could lead to adverse effects such as neurodegenerative disease. Whoa. How come we don't know that? There's a doctor that did a study and said that it's been expanded on researchers in China.
Starting point is 00:16:36 And there's a published article here, but I was looking around at the page. They call it leaky brain. Nobody calls anything leaky brain. I'm sorry. I was trying to give you the whole minute and 15 seconds. We're anything leaky brain. I'm sorry. I was trying to give you the whole minute and 15 seconds. We're still getting it. We've only got 14 seconds.
Starting point is 00:16:49 The findings were followed by suppression, misinformation, and a shutdown of government-funded research in the United States. It's the same. It's the same play. Oh, we hear that? Suppression, misinformation. We're here, but I was looking around at the page. They call it leaky brain. but I was looking around at the page.
Starting point is 00:17:04 They call it leaky brain. The findings were followed by suppression, misinformation, and a shutdown of government-funded research in the United States. It's the same. It's the same play. Oh, we got to get rid of Wi-Fi. What the fuck, Jamie?
Starting point is 00:17:19 He told him a thing. This is Joe Rogan. This is the guy that everybody says is this amazing interviewer. He's amazing. He's the best interviewer. He got told one thing. His idiot assistant found a website that corroborates. A website, Tom.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I know. That anybody could make. Literally anyone could make. They find it. It corroborates the information that this guy's saying. And he's like, whoa, he's 100% right. Every single person listening to Joe Rogan that doesn't think for themselves
Starting point is 00:17:50 is going to believe now that Wi-Fi somehow breaks down your blood brain barrier and you get leaky brain. Leaky brain, Cecil. Fucking leaky brain. I am, what's particularly pernicious about this as a model is the Jamie character. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Right? That's the most problematic part of this. If it's just Joe and the guy that he's interviewing, that is way less problematic, actually,
Starting point is 00:18:18 than when Joe, as a piece of the show, right, because it's showmanship, Joe turns to this off-camera, off-screen voice and is like, hey, fact check that for me. And then somebody who has now spent
Starting point is 00:18:31 literally impossible to have spent more than two and a half minutes. Less than that. Because I mean, we watched that in real time. It's 30 seconds he had. He had 30 seconds. So somebody did it. And I just want to interject before you even say that.
Starting point is 00:18:45 And your Google results, because you have all these fucking crackpots on your show, are probably going to reduce, they're probably going to return garbage results to you. I just wanted to throw that out there. That's a very, very good point. But like, it
Starting point is 00:19:01 enforces the message because somebody fact-checked it in real time, right? Except for that the person who fact-checked it is neither qualified to fact-check this information. They don't know what they're looking for. They're just some fucking dude named Jamie. What the fuck is that? Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:19:15 Who did less than a minute long worth of research on the fucking internet, scanned quickly the first thing that, because that's the other thing is like, if I am searching keywords based on a conversation, but the crackpot is the one who's giving me those keywords, it's going to feed me to websites that these crackpots are already looking at. If I Google, you know, Wi-Fi blood brain barrier permeability, I'm going to get crazy crackpot bullshit. If I Google leaky brain, I'm going to Google, I'm going to get crazy crackpot bullshit.
Starting point is 00:19:45 If I Google leaky brain, I'm going to Google, I'm going to find crazy crackpot. Just like if I Google orgone generator, right. Or like any, like fucking Bigfoot sightings, right. If I Google bullshit, I will get results. Just because you Google something and find results doesn't mean that you found something worthwhile. You can Google anything. You could Google literally just like three.
Starting point is 00:20:08 You could just pick like you could literally Google random verb, random noun, and you will find something more often than you won't. But like the model that is structured here, like that is shown here, it reinforces itself, right? Because it's like, oh, Joe is initially skeptical, right? He's a little, what, really? Jamie, would you fact check that? And then Jamie, oh, you know, I did find an article about that. Then Joe comes back as the guy who was skeptical and is now like, wow, well, if the facts say it, and then the fucking interviewee gets to sit back with their arms crossed and be
Starting point is 00:20:44 like, yeah, man, leaky fucking brain, motherfucker. And they know what? He probably has an ejecta. Very much. You know, the other problem, the other big problem with that too, is that it shows people that in order to figure out the answer to something, all you have to do is Google it. Yep. And if you do that, then you will find the answer that you're looking
Starting point is 00:21:06 for. And that's not how you get information. The internet is not made like that. The internet doesn't just give you that information like that. You have to find sites you trust, people you trust, and people that are accredited professionals in that field that tell you these things. You can't just look up leaky brain and be like, oh yeah, some fucking rando who's saying that they're trying to make this into misinformation. Come on, what website is that
Starting point is 00:21:35 that they're like, oh, they're trying to hide this from you because they say it's misinformation. They're like, but maybe because it's misinformation. Yeah, man. Maybe it's a giant lie so you can get web hits.
Starting point is 00:21:46 You know, like, what the fuck are you talking about? And this guy who was on Joe's show, I think before, he was a vaccine doctor. This fucking RFK who's constantly talking about
Starting point is 00:21:58 anti-vax shit started talking anti-vax shit. And he got called out by this guy on Twitter basically saying, Joe, just let him talk and didn't push back, et cetera. And he got called out by this guy on Twitter, basically saying, Joe, just let him talk and didn't push back, et cetera. And then Joe's like, well, why don't you come debate him on my show?
Starting point is 00:22:11 And the guy's like, I'm not coming on your show to debate him. I'm not doing that. Here's the thing. And everybody thinks that this is somehow a good idea. This is a terrible idea. Fucking RFK is a politician. He understands debate.
Starting point is 00:22:24 He understands fucking rhetoric he understands how to get his point across he understands that you're not gonna like I don't care how many papers you have stacked up he's gonna win that argument he's gonna win it or at least make it look like because you can't fact check gobbledygook he's gonna say 50 gobbledygook things to you
Starting point is 00:22:42 and you're only gonna be able to fact check one or two gobbledygook things out of the time that you have. And then Joe, of course, is not going to be fucking the perfect judge of this. He's not going to be perfectly in the middle. He's not going to be impartial. He's going to fucking, of course, be constantly hammering you. Look at what fucking Joe Rogan years ago argued with Phil Plait about whether or not we went to the fucking moon. You can shoot a fucking laser at the moon and it bounces back to us.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Like there's physical proof of us being on the moon. You could fucking zoom in on the moon and see the tracks and the shit we left up there. You can see it. It's fucking proof. We have proof we've been to the moon. But he lost that argument to Joe because Joe is good at arguing. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:28 The thing is, like, the only debate that debate settles is who's better at debate. Yeah. That's it. That's it. That's the only question. If the question, if the only question being posed is who is the better debater, debate is a great format for that. Yeah. If any other question is to be used, that's not how we get to true
Starting point is 00:23:45 things. Yeah. Like I would lose a debate. I absolutely 100% guarantee I would lose a debate against certain flat earthers. There are people who have spent massive amounts of time doing their flat earth spiel. And if they're really good speakers and they've got this sort of like, you know, cavalcade of nonsense that they're able to sort of like one right after the other, after the other is spread out there, I would lose. I guarantee you, I would lose a debate with a flat earther who is really, really well-spoken because that's not a subject that I'm actually well-versed in. I just, I don't need to be, right? Like I'm like flat earth, that's dumb. I put it in a box called that's fucking dumb and I
Starting point is 00:24:24 don't think about it. So if you had made debate a flat earther right now, I would lose. Does that change the shape of the earth? Truth is not shaped by rhetoric. Like, true things are still true, no matter what semantic tools we use to present those truths. Debate's a terrible fucking idea.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Like, debate is an interesting way to sort of, like, challenge yourself, I think. I think, like, as an intellectual exercise for the debater, I think it is a useful and potentially interesting exercise. Be like, all right, have I really thought this through? Have I thought this through carefully? Beyond that, it's a spectator thing. Yeah. It's, you know. It's intelligence squared. It is. Yeah. Which, like, if you want to listen to it because it's entertaining. It's entertaining. Then be entertained. I would lose. That's it. I
Starting point is 00:25:15 was thinking about this today. I was like, I would lose almost any debate. That's why I've never been, we were invited on to be on the Atheist Experience a couple years ago. They invited us to be on the atheist experience a couple of years ago. They invited us to come on and we, not only did we kind of fuck around and not answer the email, but we also like, neither of us, we're not good at that. If I was on that show, I would just commiserate with the guy who's, I would be his hype man. Who's ever arguing with them. I would be their hype man. I don't fucking know. Like, I'm not going to argue with you the Bible. I fucking barely know it, man. I'm not going to argue with you about that. I would lose that debate.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I would lose debate pretty much on, I think, almost anything that we cover. Not just because I don't know it, because I do know a lot about some of this stuff. I do. And I know the arguments they're going to use, but I still think I would lose. Bringing this onto Joe Rogan's show,
Starting point is 00:26:01 is a stacked deck. It's a deck stacked against you. And, you know, when they're saying, well, debate him. It's a deck stacked against you. And, you know, when they say, well, debate him, it's like, well, they already did in the science journals.
Starting point is 00:26:10 That debate was already lost by the people who thought that vaccines cause autism or that vaccines cause massive injury or that COVID vaccines are like cause people to have heart problems
Starting point is 00:26:24 or that, you know, ivermectin cures this stuff. All that stuff that you've promoted on your show has been already debated and failed at the level of where it really matters in a medical journal. Yeah. Well, that's the thing is that the debate takes place between the hypothesis and the evidence. Yeah. That's the debate, right? That is the only debate in science that matters. It's not two dudes talking. Two dudes talking, somebody could add food poisoning the night before.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Does that change the shape of the earth? Yeah. Nothing. It's nonsense. It's a bad methodology to get to truth. Which is why, by the way, the scientific method doesn't have a debate portion of the program.
Starting point is 00:27:03 There's not like a debate. You don't like, okay, now we're going to, there's not a fisticuffs part. Right. Exactly. Scientific method. Like let's do arm wrestling.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Yeah. This story comes from The Independent. Exclusive. Marjorie Taylor Greene names her price for Joe McCarthy, which is to impeach Joe Biden. There's a lot of stories about impeachment. And this is all just sort of breaking
Starting point is 00:27:27 Lauren Boebert, there's stories about her. So there's a bunch of stories about impeachment. And really, genuinely, this is the thing. They just censured Adam Schiff because of his role trying to
Starting point is 00:27:43 succeeding in impeaching Trump for doing horrible things in office, right? Impeached twice. Impeached for a terrible call where he leveraged stuff that we were going to give to Ukraine for information to try to attack his political opponent. I mean, genuinely an absolutely unethical thing
Starting point is 00:28:07 for a president to do. And he did it and we have the tapes and we have a whistleblower who came forward. I mean, it's awful. It's genuinely awful. He got impeached for it. Genuinely got impeached for it. Next one, January 6th,
Starting point is 00:28:18 he incited a riot in the state. He fomented an insurrection. He started a riot in the United States at the Capitol. This is, I mean, hours and hours and hours of testimony after the fact, but they had plenty of information ahead of time. He got impeached for that as well. They today, or it was yesterday, they censured Adam Schiff, and they are doing it because they think that the law, and we're seeing this all across
Starting point is 00:28:46 the country, that the law should be used in a retaliatory fashion. That every time somebody wrongs you, you should do your very best to try to attack them using the law as your hammer. And they've done this for years and years and years. And so when they want to impeach Joe Biden, they don't have a reason. And that's why I wanted to talk about all this stuff. Like Marjorie Taylor Greene, I grabbed this article specifically. So Marjorie Taylor Greene, very powerful influential figure for fucking
Starting point is 00:29:14 who knows what reason, right? This is some CrossFit lady from the middle of fucking nowhere, Georgia. She is unqualified to do anything but burpees. Yep. Right? If she's not like showing you how to fucking throw a wall ball
Starting point is 00:29:30 or do a burpee or whatever. Or a kip pull-up or something. Yeah. Like if she's not like ruining her shoulders, like she's got like no business. She has no fucking rotator cuff anymore. If she's not wearing a rotator cuff down to a nub, I don't want to hear it.
Starting point is 00:29:45 And I don't want your emails if you're a CrossFitter. I did it too. I loved it. It was great. But you know what? It's full of chuckleheads and they shouldn't be
Starting point is 00:29:52 in fucking Congress. They shouldn't be in Congress. All right? Especially the guy who runs CrossFit. He's like a fucking weird gun nut and shit. He's a lunatic.
Starting point is 00:29:58 He's like a lunatic. He's a total lunatic. And he draws lunatics. There's a lot of lunatics in CrossFit. Oh, yeah. It's lunatics, law enforcement, soccer moms, and guys like me. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:30:09 That's what it is. And I loved it. But this is not a qualifying factor, right? Marjorie Taylor Greene, nonetheless, for insane reasons, has become very influential on the right. And so this story matters. And the thing that matters to me about it, and the reason I grabbed it is,
Starting point is 00:30:29 when Joe McCarthy was like, well, we got to raise the debt ceiling, you know, and he had to go to his people and be like, look, I got to get votes on the debt ceiling. Marjorie Taylor Greene was like, all right, here's the deal. I will hold the health and well-being of the entire United States and international economy hostage unless you give me voting, economy hostage unless you give me voting, impeaching Joe Biden. I want, I want, and this was not a conversation of what did Joe Biden do wrong? This was not a conversation of, do you think this is an impeachable offense? It was a quid pro quo. This was just a straight up like, I'll give you this, you give me that.
Starting point is 00:31:05 But what McCarthy, who I fucking hate, but what McCarthy wanted was, look, we should probably not cripple the entire United States economy and take down the rest of the world with it. And Marjorie Taylor Greene was like, well, I just want to impeach the president on spurious bullshit reasons in order to satisfy my bloodthirsty constituency. And that's the conversation that she's admitting to out loud. In no part of this is she like, we've got to impeach Joe Biden because he did this thing and it was wrong. It was a high crime and misdemeanor. They're just like fishing for reasons. They're still fishing for reasons.
Starting point is 00:31:35 It'll probably still work too. They only need 50%, right? Of the house. I think they can do it with a simple majority. Yeah. They could do it. They're going to win. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:43 They're going to impeach him. Yeah. They'll impeach him. If that comes up, they'll impeach him. I majority. Yeah, they could do it. They're going to win. Yeah. They're going to impeach him. Yeah. They'll impeach him. If that comes up, they'll impeach him. I don't know, man. I wonder, because like, I don't think like, I don't think they'll all vote for it. I don't think they'll all vote for it. I think there will be some that are like, that's too fucking much.
Starting point is 00:31:56 I saw some people. There's no reason. I know. There's no reason. His son was arrested this week. Yeah, his son. His son was arrested on charges of, he lied on an application for a gun and he paid his taxes late.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah. And those two things, he pled and he was arrested. He took a plea. And everybody was like, oh my God, all the right was just freaking out.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Like, oh, Joe Biden, crime family. And you're just like, yeah, he took a plea. Okay. He's not the president. He's not in office. I'll never vote for Hunter Biden again.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Right. I'm never going to vote for him again. I'll still never vote again. I'm never going to vote for Hunter Biden. It's like, okay, I don't care. Like, here's the thing, man. I don't fucking care about that guy. I've never cared about that guy. All they have been trying to do since the beginning is try to tie him as tightly as they could to Joe Biden because he, he's a drug user and because he's kind of a fuck up. Yeah, I know. But like you compare, like, like Hunter Biden is admittedly a fuck up, right?
Starting point is 00:32:47 Like he's just, he's got problems. The dude's got fucking problems. All right. Literally has nothing to do with Joe Biden. Literally has nothing to do with his performance. He compared that to Trump, which one thing doesn't make another thing right. But Trump hired all his kids.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Yeah. He hired Ivanka. He hired fucking Junior. He hired fucking ivanka's weird space alien husband like he hired all of his fucking family to come into these jobs that they were grossly uncle biden didn't do that yeah like that's the part like think the guys on the right are missing is like if hunter biden turns out to be a fucking murderer it doesn't mean anything to joe biden yeah right Like if I go out tomorrow and I
Starting point is 00:33:25 fucking murder somebody, my dad doesn't become a bad person. Yeah. My dad's just my dad. My dad is some guy sitting in a fucking easy chair being like, what the fuck? Why'd you do that? You know, it's got no connection to that. They're grownups. Yeah. Once we're here, this Joe Biden is 70, whatever the fuck years old Hunter Biden's life and Joe Biden's life are as independent as your life, listener, from your parents' life. I'm 45. My dad's 75.
Starting point is 00:33:52 My life and his life, completely independent. I see him twice a year. I call him on the phone once a week to make sure he's alive. That's our relationship. There's not like, oh, the Curry crime family. That's nothing.
Starting point is 00:34:05 That's all nothing. Right. Absolutely right. But they seem to think there's this big tie between the two of them. And if they can tie a rock around Hunter Biden and sink him,
Starting point is 00:34:16 they can hopefully lasso Joe and pull him down. I will point out too that you didn't see anybody from Biden administration be like, all right, that's not going to happen. Yeah. Nobody stepped in. Nobody stepped in. Nobody's, all right, that's not going to happen. Yeah, nobody stepped in. Nobody stepped in.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Nobody's trying to help. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. Those things that he got in trouble for, I was reading that he got pretty bad. They kind of fucked him up for those things. A lot of that stuff might have just been swept under the rug if he wasn't who he was.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Because of his high profile. Because of his high profile that they decided to do it. Think about if that was one of Trump's, if anybody connected to Trump, he'd have probably pardoned him or gotten him off in some way. A thousand percent. He'd have nudged him in some way, or at least there would be records of him trying to do it.
Starting point is 00:34:56 So like, it's, it's just, they expect that sort of thing. They expect the way that works. But I want to get back to the point I was trying to make, which is I heard some people rumbling this week about the censure of Adam Schiff and the impeachment of Joe Biden, how this is going to play really badly on the Republicans. And I
Starting point is 00:35:16 strongly disagree. This is exactly when we talk about what they want in a nominee, they want someone who's going to hurt anybody's feelings on the nominee, they want someone who's going to hurt anybody's feelings on the left. They want somebody who's going to make you feel hatred for them. That's what they want. And so when this stuff goes through, I think their party loves it.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I think they eat it up. They're excited that Adam Schiff got censured today or yesterday. They're very excited for that entire, they're excited that if Joe Biden gets brought up on charges, even if it doesn't go through, in their mind, he was impeached.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Right, yeah. I think that the hard right base absolutely does love this. I don't know if the middle feels that way. I wonder how much middle's left. I don't know how much middle is left either, Cecil. And I don't understand how much middle is left either, Cecil. And I don't understand how anyone is the middle.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I don't know how you're middle and not looking at the landscape that we've seen over the last couple years and still voting for Republicans. I don't know how that is. Because to me, then you're just lying.
Starting point is 00:36:19 You're lying on the intake form that says you're the middle. You're lying. You're not the middle. If you look across the landscape that we've seen and the egregiousness of what's been happening, I mean, like, you know, we constantly hear these outright lies from everybody who's taught.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Every single person on their side is lying about something. Right out in the open, seeing an actual untruth. This last week, Trump was on like five or six things and he's still talking about how the election was stolen from him. He's still talking about that. He's still saying the election was stolen from him. That is a absolute lie. And he keeps saying it over and over and over. And there's no consequences to this. No, no, there will never be consequences. I feel like there's going to have to be something that happens in the future, some pendulum shift that swings us back the other way where we don't want to be. We're censoring people when they say shit that is so fucking egregious. We're like, okay, no, that person's got to get,
Starting point is 00:37:21 there's a no confidence vote on the president if they say something like that. like, okay, no, that person's got to get, there's a no confidence vote on the president if they say something like that. Yeah. I would love a no confidence, right? I would love a no confidence if the no confidence came from the public. Yeah. Right. If the no confidence came from Congress. Yeah. That's a disaster. That's a fucking disaster. That's a disaster. I guess I feel like I don't disagree with you at all, except for that. I wonder, because these elections now are won by turnout. Yeah. They're won by turnout. Will this narrative help or hurt turnout? Yeah. And I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It might feel that the good thing is for us, it might feel like they did their job and then they might not come. Right. Like they're like, oh, well, they, they, we, we,
Starting point is 00:38:01 we gave it to them and then they just don don't show up to vote. Right. Yeah. And God said, I don't care. To a moral story, Lauren Boebert says she's being directed by God to impeach Biden. And that's the headline. But when you hear it, it is the most incomprehensible, gobbledygookity-est bullshit. It just sounds crazy. Let's just listen to her. All glory to God. This is, this is grace. This is God's empowerment and his ability and staying grounded, rooted in the word of God out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.
Starting point is 00:38:37 And I am, I am directed and led by him. You know, there was pressure for me not to introduce the articles of impeachment tonight. We'll not introduce them, but to bring them up and call them for a vote. And I said, you know, I have a peace, a still in my spirit, and I'm going to be led by peace, not by the pressure from the outside. display with the speaker's race where Matt Gates and I were surrounded, pressure from the outside, but strong on the inside, knowing that we are purposed and that we are doing what is right, what is righteous. And I think just as you said, history will prove that. I'm not being like the press secretary and calling myself an historic figure, but history will prove that we were on the right side of the argument. And it is all about being led by the spirit of God in everything that you do. I do give him all glory for where I am, for the people that
Starting point is 00:39:32 he has positioned me with and in front of, to speak life into situations and to hold the corrupt accountable. I'm grateful to be here and to help get our country back on track because we are that shining city on a hill. We are a beacon of light for the rest of the world. And it is the goodness of God that leads men to repentance. That, what the fuck was that verbal fucking diarrhea? What in the world was that? It felt like a bunch of just catchphrases, like religious catchphrases. It is. It felt like she was just stringing religious like a bunch of just catchphrases, like religious catchphrases. It is. It felt like she was just stringing
Starting point is 00:40:06 religious catchphrase versus religious catchphrase working her way through. If you could take a religious catchphrase, cards against humanity. That's exactly it, yeah. She speaks like refrigerator poetry. It's religious refrigerator poetry. She's not that smart.
Starting point is 00:40:26 No. God, go back to shooters, lady. Oh, man. What was that? What was that? It's nothing, but the buzzwords get people who are already in tune with that mindset and with those ideas and those ideals to follow you and to appreciate you, right? All she's doing is, you know, she's just saying all the things that they want to hear
Starting point is 00:40:52 over and over and over again. It's like being a political phone sex worker. There should be a political phone sex line. Can we open up a political phone sex line? I'm going to impeach Joe Biden. Oh, you know what we should do? We should hire Ian's sexy voice friend to run it for us. And just tell us like really slowly when something goes right for us. Yes. Just like read like little political wins to us.
Starting point is 00:41:23 They read the rolls. Right. And now I'm going to read the articles of impeachment. Like, yeah. Yeah, read it slower. Now faster. Tell me what you're wearing. That's right.
Starting point is 00:41:35 You're a loser. You've never won. You lose, lose, lose. It's a story also from the independent. The independent's featuring heavily this week. Fox confronts Trump with lengthy list of aides he appointed and then turned on. This is fucking great audio. All right, so here we go. This is from Fox News. In 2016, you said that. I'm going to surround myself with only the best and most serious people.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Well, I did do that. This time. And we had tremendous luck. We had the best economy we've ever had. This time. The world has ever seen. Your Vice President Mike Pence is running against you. Yeah. Your Ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, she's running against you. Your former Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, said he's not supporting you. You mentioned National Security Advisor John Bolton, he's not supporting you either. You mentioned Attorney General Bill Barr says you shouldn't be president again.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Calls you the consummate narcissist and troubled man. You recently called Barr a gutless pig. Your second defense secretary is not supporting you. Called you irresponsible. This week, you and your White House, called your White House chief of staff, John Kelly, weak and ineffective and born with a very small brain. You called your acting White House chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, a born loser. You called your first secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, dumb as a rock. And your first defense secretary, James Mattis,
Starting point is 00:42:52 the world's most overrated general. You called your White House press secretary, Kayla Kennedy, milquetoast. And multiple times you've referred to your transportation secretary, Elaine Chao, as Mitch McConnell's China-loving wife. So why did you hire all of them in the first place? Because I hired 10 to one that were fantastic. We had a great economy.
Starting point is 00:43:12 We had phenomenal people in charge of the economy. We had phenomenal people in the military. I'm not a fan of Milley, and I'm not a fan of certain of the television people. But I knocked out ISIS. I defeated ISIS. They said, Mattis, it would take three years and I don't think we can do it. I did it in a period of like four weeks. There's a lot of people who praise you for your policies. I just said that. That's true. Well, I mean, you just went through a list, but don't forget for everyone you say, I had 10 that love us. No, you don't. No. Okay. There's so much to talk about. No, you don't. But you got to start with his hair. His hair is something else.
Starting point is 00:43:47 His hair on the side looks like he's got a weird skater cut. It really looks very strange. And it's doing a whole thing. It's going all over. It looks like- Wispy yet also looks clumpy at the same time. How could something be a wispy clump? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:03 It's very strange. There needs to be a word for that. It's very strange. A trump. But I, this, this was delicious. This really was delicious because we've said this like a million times. Like we watched it happen in real time. We watched this guy pat himself on the back preemptively about what a great job he was going to do hiring only the best people. And then immediately fire people and then say they were all terrible. But like, if I'm the boss and I only hire bad employees,
Starting point is 00:44:32 that's always on me. Yeah. Right. Like that's every time. Like if, and he didn't get 10 to one, the people that that guy was naming, weren't like the junior undersecretary to the assistant administrator or
Starting point is 00:44:44 some, you know, tiny little nothing. It's like, this was your attorney general, man. This was your vice president. This was like your fucking UN ambassador. Like these were big jobs. And he's like, well, 10 to one, like I really hired some great people. You wouldn't know them. Good guys, interns, intern Larry did an awesome job. The paper boy, the guy who brings me coffee and ketchup every morning, never spills a drop. The guy who's going to hide shit from my boxes. That guy, that's a good guy, right? Box guy. No, you're absolutely right. These are the most important jobs that he has in his cabinet. These are cabinet people, right?
Starting point is 00:45:27 How often do you hear of someone going through that many secretaries of state in a presidency? Now, they often change if they get reelected. That happens, right? So they will have two. He had like five.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Dude, he had like a hundred press secretaries. We talked about all the people, you know, press secretaries come and go too. He had like five. Dude, he had like a hundred press secretaries. We talked about all the people, you know, press secretaries come and go too. So you could have maybe four, you know, there's a possibility you could have four during your presidency, one every year. But he had like 16 of them.
Starting point is 00:45:54 He had so many. He had people, you know, there were people, important people on his cabinet that were changing jobs all the time. And these are jobs that require longevity. They require someone to be there to understand his policies, to understand what's happening there. These aren't jobs you could just transfer into.
Starting point is 00:46:14 These are hard. These are the most difficult jobs in our country. I don't think I'm exaggerating by saying these are the most difficult jobs in the country. And to have people who are like your secretary of state and you change them out every single year because they disagreed with you one time, he was firing these people left and right.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And then when he would fire them, he would bad talk them. But when he hired them, they were the best that he ever saw. It's because you have no judge of whether or not someone is good or bad. You don't have that. Everyone is good until they're bad to you.
Starting point is 00:46:46 And that's the, listen to how you talk about the economy. The economy was in the shitter the entire time you were, we didn't, it wasn't like we're fucking like, it was milk and honey for everybody. There wasn't a chicken in every pot, dude.
Starting point is 00:46:56 It wasn't great for everybody then. So don't fucking pretend, but he's going to lie about every, he lies about everything and everything is a win for him. There's never a loss. The dude never win for him. There's never a loss. The dude never takes an L. There's never a moment in his life where you're like, hey man, you kind of fucked that up.
Starting point is 00:47:11 He says, no, I actually did a great job. I crushed it. I did the best job ever. You know, actually I did, that's only 10% that you're looking at. I did 90% better than what you're saying. If he borrowed your fucking brand new car and crashed it across like
Starting point is 00:47:26 a telephone pole or something he'd be like hey look you know but yeah i crashed the car but you know the car it was a bad car it was never a good car you didn't want the car actually improve the car favor i improve this car insurance all right you would check to get a better car now you know when in two months you'll thank me yeah this is the best thing i ever did you could write me a check for the insurance 100 better look you said something about like being like, this is a guy who can't pick people, right? And I think that reason is like, when you are of low character,
Starting point is 00:47:54 you can't be a good judge of character. I think that's right. He is a no character person. So he's just like, he can be fooled by anybody, right? Like the easiest people in the world to sell to are salespeople. That has been true my whole life. Like I'm a salesperson.
Starting point is 00:48:08 I'm an easy sell. I know I am. I have to actively be like, no, no, you are a hard sell. You are not a salesperson at all. It's hard to sell stuff to you. You're always suspicious, right? Like if you're a grifter, it's easy to grift you, man. It just is. Like this is a guy who has no fuckingifter, it's easy to grift you, man. It just is.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Like, this is a guy who has no fucking character. He's easy to lie to. He's lying all the time. He can't, he doesn't, the fucking line between truth and fiction for him is irrelevant. So why would he look for it in other people? You know, he's incompetent. Why would he recognize competence? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Like, he's not like you find, like, I think like there's a sort of truism and that's all it is, but there's a sort of truism that like people find like good people are surrounded typically by good people. And like shit people are typically surrounded by shit people. It's not always true. It's just a truism. But like, I think that there's kind of a reason for that. And one of the reasons for that is like, good people can sniff your shit out, man. Honorable people with good integrity, they can see through this shit a fucking mile away. They don't want to work for this guy.
Starting point is 00:49:13 They don't want to work for this guy. As much as I hate him, Mitt Romney refused to work for him. I know. You know, I hate him, but he's right. He was right. McCain fucking thought he was a giant dirtbag and said as much.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Yeah. Big thumbs down. Before he died. Yeah. Big thumbs down before he died. Yeah. Big thumbs down. Huge thumbs down. So like, it's like unsurprising that he's an incompetent shit. Yeah. It's good to be the king.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Tom, we talk about it every time a Supreme Court justice fucks us in the ear. And here's another great opportunity. They're all fucking corrupt. They're all fucking corrupt, man. They're all fucking corrupt. They're all fucking corrupt. This one is this now. This is Samuel Alito. This story comes from Esquire. You can find it everywhere. I think what was it? Who ProPublica broke it? ProPublica broke the story. ProPublica is a hammer dropping machine. They are fucking the fourth estate. They're the last fourth estate. For real. Samuel Alito is the latest Supreme court justice exposed for living like an
Starting point is 00:50:05 oil shake. So he took a trip, some fucking billionaire that has had cases in front of the Supreme court. Yeah. Some fucking billionaire flew his ass for a luxurious fishing trip in Alaska on a private fucking jet, a jet that costs a hundred thousand dollars each way. If you were to private fucking jet, a jet that costs $100,000 each way if you were to charter that jet.
Starting point is 00:50:27 If you and I were to charter that jet to go to Alaska and back, $200,000, we could almost die in a submersible. Yeah, I mean, if we fly to, say, Seattle afterwards on it, we could also just decide to go, but only one of us could go in the submersible. That's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:50:44 We have to do five trips to Alaska so both of us could go in the submersible. That's true. That's true. You have to do five trips to Alaska so both of us could get in a submersible. Jesus Christ. It's insane. And the place he was staying at, now this is years ago too.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Right. Place he's staying at, $1,000 a night years ago. Dude, $1,000 a night. $1,000 a night. That is an extravagant place to be. It's unbelievable. An extravagant place to be. And Pro unbelievable. An extravagant place to be.
Starting point is 00:51:05 And ProPublica tracked all this shit down, found out about how he got on the plane, who he was with. You know, there's all these billionaires that suddenly become buddy-buddy with all these people. Oh, I wonder why. And they're taking them,
Starting point is 00:51:20 they're flying them all over, they're becoming their friends, and then their shit gets put up in front of them. And, you know, they put flying them all over, they're becoming their friends, and then their shit gets put up in front of them. And they put a link in this. They did a thing I was watching on TV the other night where they kind of put a link, a couple links together. And some of these links are the person who sort of pushed for the court to revisit whether or not corporations could donate a bunch of money was Alito. Oh, whoa, shocking. And it turns out this guy who's taking him up there,
Starting point is 00:51:51 this is a thing that he really likes, you know? Well, imagine that. Because he's a fucking rich man. Because he's a fucking billionaire. Right, yeah. And he doesn't want any limits on what he, and he doesn't want limits on what corporations can give. And he wants corporations to be treated like they're people. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:02 And Alito crazily took out, wrote a fucking op-ed for the Wall Street Journal defending his position. He was basically like, look, I didn't have to say shit. I didn't have to disclose it. And it was fine that I did it. And he's like, look,
Starting point is 00:52:19 I'm allowed to take, because there are ethics rules for justices, but they have carve-outs where they're allowed to be entertained by friends. And that makes sense, right? Because like, if I were a Supreme Court justice, one, the country has descended into chaos and we should leave. But two, big time, it would be unfair if I couldn't go to your house for dinner. If you were a Supreme Court justice, I would get on the quickest submersible I could. I do a better job than fucking six out of nine.
Starting point is 00:52:49 I don't disagree. I would do a better job than six out of nine. So, but yeah, I would be able to like go out to dinner with you and have you be like, oh, I got this one, right? That would be fine. And that's what these carve outs are for. But what's happening in practice is these guys are go are being like like clarence thomas's mom's house is being bought or his fucking nephews like uh fucking tuition is
Starting point is 00:53:11 being paid for or this guy's getting on a hundred thousand dollar one-way ticket on a private jet to an olympia these are not normal yeah this is not you know, like in my company, and we talked about this before, I am allowed to accept minor gifts of entertainment with a client, right? So if I go with a client, a client wants to buy a drink for the table. I can have a drink with the, I can't be like, oh, you can't buy me a drink. I can have a drink. But like, there's just a cap to it. You can split an appetizer with them. Right. You know what I mean? Like there's a cap to it. Like if we want to have like a Bloomin' Onion, we're a Bloomin' Onion, you know? Like we can have a Bloomin' Onion.
Starting point is 00:53:49 God, that's a horrible food. You don't like a Bloomin' Onion. Nothing will make me feel sick faster than a Bloomin' Onion. Admittedly, there's so much grease in those. They're normally traps the grease. And then they decide to put like lettuce underneath it to trap more grease. But like a good Bloomin' Onion,
Starting point is 00:54:04 if I pull like two or three pieces off, a Bloomin' Onion is too much food. That's the problem. That's what I think your problem is, is that you see it and then you say, I have to eat the whole Bloomin' Onion. I'm going to eat that onion. And that's the problem is,
Starting point is 00:54:16 a Bloomin' Onion is a three-piece food. You eat three pieces and then you're like, that's all the Bloomin' Onion I'm ever going to have. And the only way that's going to work for me is if they bring me three Bloomin' Onion pieces. I know, Tom. Because they should do Bloomin' Onions with spring going to have. And the only way that's going to work for me is if they bring me three Bloomin' Onion pieces. I know, Tom. They should do Bloomin' Onions with spring onions for you. They should!
Starting point is 00:54:29 Yes! Bloomin' Scallions! Give me a Bloomin' Scallions. If you do Bloomin' Scallions, Tom's down. I eat the shit out of a Bloomin' Scallions. Tom's down with Bloomin' Scallions. There we go. But a Bloomin' Onion. By the time I got that whole fried onion in my belly, there's so much grease. And there's so much grease. And the worst part is the piece at the bottom,
Starting point is 00:54:46 like that little piece at the bottom, that sucks up the grease. That's like a fucking pizza box. You may as well just pour the fryer right in your mouth. Like it's, ugh. By the time I eat the second one, I don't feel good at all anymore.
Starting point is 00:55:02 And then I got choked back down the Outback steak. Oh my god. I fucking hate that. No, but seriously. Seriously, it's an intense amount of money. It's a sick amount of money. It's like you don't have friends. I don't have friends that have offered to take me on an entire vacation. No! I don't have friends that have
Starting point is 00:55:20 that much liquid assets where they can look at me and be like, hey, I bought two extra tickets to this cruise or whatever. I'm going to take you on this trip with me. I can't afford to pay for another person to go on a trip. I would love to. I think that's a great, to be honest, I think that is a beautiful way to show someone that, you know, you care about them. And it also is a beautiful way to make sure that the court case you have in front of the Supreme Court gets a little, you know what I mean? Like the scales
Starting point is 00:55:50 of justice can have two fingers on them. You know, you could give the shocker to the scales of justice if you take them on a trip, you know what I mean? And that's what happens. And the thing is, like, I'm only halfway kidding when I say it. Like, I would love to take people. I think that would be an amazing thing to have enough disposable income to look at someone and be like, man, I'm only halfway kidding when I say it. Like, I would love to take people. I think that would be an amazing thing to have enough disposable income to look at someone and be like, man, I'd love to take you on a trip. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:56:09 You know, here's a couple I know I'd like you to take or a good friend or whatever. You know, maybe family members. I'd love to go on a family, you know, hey, let's go. But I just don't have the disposable income to pay for something.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Dude, and I'll tell you, like kind of a funny related, I've got a friend of mine who is a friend, but not a close friend. He's a long standing friend and he is wealthy. Like he's got like real actual, like real, what do we consider like real money? And he didn't always have real money. Like he and I were both broke at the same time in our life.
Starting point is 00:56:36 And now he's quite wealthy. And so like he has gone on a number of vacations and trips that have sounded really cool. And one time he did say, he's like, dude, I know you can't go, but you can be on the scholarship program. He's like, I'll take care of it. And I felt uncomfortable doing it. And I didn't do it because we're not that close. Right. And that's part of this too. Right. Exactly. Like we're not, he and I are not close enough where I'm comfortable accepting a gift of that magnitude. Like, I just wouldn't be comfortable. It's not like I think, like, my buddy Mike wants to sleep with me or something.
Starting point is 00:57:09 He's not going to wake up with his hand between two pillows. Right, yeah. But it just doesn't feel right to take it. Because there's something, like, kind of intimate about a gift of that size, right? A gift of that size is, in my world, it's reserved, like you say, it's like, that's like a big gesture. That's a gift, like, for someone that size is, in my world, it's reserved. Like you say, that's a big gesture.
Starting point is 00:57:26 That's a gift for someone that you're intimately close with. It's close to you. You wouldn't do it. The reason why these guys accept it, though, is because of the entitlement of the position. They feel entitled to these benefits. They feel entitled because they're doing this
Starting point is 00:57:42 work, they're serving the public, and they feel entitled to get this from some rando. Yep. And they feel like, I'm a big deal. Because the thing is, the Supreme Court pays well, but it doesn't pay be rich money. It's not a million dollar job. So I think that there's a sense of, I'm a big deal, I should live like a big deal. And my salary is upper middle class salary. Yeah. It's not big fucking, you know, it's not a hundred thousand dollar charter flight. Well, why the fuck these people don't do four or five years there and then fucking retire and start making a fucking shit ton of money as the legal
Starting point is 00:58:18 guy on one of these. Can you imagine how fucking, what kind of cool it would be to have a legal guy who used to be a Supreme court justice as your pundit or whatever. You pay him through the nose. Or they start their own show on Fox or whatever the fuck. You know what I mean? Like the fucking judge fucking Mathis show
Starting point is 00:58:32 or whatever. Judge Mathis show. He takes over for Judge Judy. That would be fucking amazing. It would be amazing if a Supreme Court justice took over for Judge Judy. Come on.
Starting point is 00:58:41 I would love to see it. Set your sights a little higher, people. You get more. You could have more than just shooting a moose or whatever you were doing. They should take over that like pet court. There should be like a Supreme. That should be how it works. You work your way up to Supreme Court and then you get pet court.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Pet court. You're like deciding like who gets the cat or whatever. Or like the divorce ones where they're like, oh no, you didn't. It's like Jerry Springer, but with their yelling at each other and stuff. That's what they should have. They should a hundred percent have those all the time. They should just do those constantly. One of my favorite stories about Judge Mathis is a friend of ours used to be in the audience for Judge Mathis. He used to go to Judge Mathis and he used to get paid like $50 a day or whatever to sit in the court. And he would sit in the court and he and his friend that were
Starting point is 00:59:28 living there, they would try to make their hair as obnoxious as possible, but still look kind of normal so that they could see themselves. So they would like part their hair like really far over in like one way. So there's like a line on this side of their head and he would put, make his hair stand up a little bit. He told us the craziest stories. He would try to like really emote when things would be like, whoa! He'd put his hands up to his face
Starting point is 00:59:54 like the kid from Home Alone. I fucking love Jake. That's so great. So funny. It's so good. I would do that in a second. The name of that show by the way should be Law John. All right, that's going to wrap it up for today. I just want to let people know that many of the shows you're going to hear in the next couple of weeks have been pre-recorded. So don't expect any kind of breaking news.
Starting point is 01:00:21 The next time we're going to be recording in person is going to be the 20th of July. So expect something after the 20th of July. There'll probably be some more regular something happened news. But if something big happens between now and July 20th, then chances are we're not going to talk. I'll just do an emergency solo show. We might talk about it. We might talk about it on the 20th, then chances are we're not going to talk. I'll just do an emergency solo show.
Starting point is 01:00:45 We might talk about it on the 20th. But if something big happens, like Trump gets charged down in Georgia, let's say that happens, we will not be covering it for the next several weeks. We pre-recorded a lot of stuff so I could go on vacation. But we will be back next week. And I wanted to tell
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