Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 703: They never cared and they’re not here to help

Episode Date: July 24, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of Cognitive Dissonance is brought to you by our patrons. You fucking rock. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. recording live from glory hole studios in chicago beyond. This is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, Cecil's cell phone, and skepticism. I don't care, man. To any topic that makes the news,
Starting point is 00:00:58 makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no welcome mat. Cecil, we are back. us mad. It's skeptical. It's political. And there is no welcome, Matt. Cecil, we are back. We're back, baby. We are back. It is July 20th. We are recording Thursday, July 20th.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Oh, man. You're back from vacation. We haven't seen each other in four weeks. How you been, buddy? It's a long time, Cecil. Been good? I've been great, man. We got together first time in four weeks. I came up to the studio and we got recording late because we just got to bullshit. I know, we started talking so much.
Starting point is 00:01:31 If we get a little slap happy, it's because we spent the last two and a half hours catching up. Before we start, one, we got to talk about, we're going to be on YouTube. So if you're watching this, it's on YouTube this week. So hello, YouTube. YouTube! Because they removed our strike. They did remove our strike. So we are back now on YouTube. If you are
Starting point is 00:01:51 listening to this, chances are you're listening to this ahead of when it actually played on YouTube. If you're watching it again, because I know that there are some people who do that, it is playing in the evening on YouTube instead of on Twitch. So you don't go to Twitch anymore to watch it. You go to YouTube. Now we may, depending on if we get messages,
Starting point is 00:02:10 put it on Twitch as well somehow, but we're not sure how that's going to work. The other important thing is that we are going to be live streaming this upcoming August, the third week of the month. Hopefully on that Thursday, we'll be recording, we'll be doing a live stream. So as planned, who knows what happens? Things get shifted and things get moved, but fingers crossed that's going to work. But I also wanted to show the people on YouTube. This is so great. Amazing. Look at this. Now, this was sent to us by Tamara. And Tamara sent us this to us by Tamara. And Tamara sent us this cognitive dissonance folded. This is not cut.
Starting point is 00:02:48 This is folded into a holy Bible they yoinked from a fucking hotel. That's so great. Which is the greatest thing. And evidently, this was a pain in the ass to do. And Tamara crushed this.
Starting point is 00:03:02 This is amazing. It's genuinely beautiful. It's folded in here. I think you can see that. I don't know if it's out of focus. I hope it's not. It's even with my face, so it can't be, right?
Starting point is 00:03:10 It's got to be. It's got to be focused. So there you go. Thank you so much for sending this in. This is so cool. It's going to sit behind me on the little thing here, right? What a,
Starting point is 00:03:18 that's a kingly gift. That's really, really cool. Not only do we have that, but then we also have this book that was sent to us. Yeah, that's our book. And this book is our book. And our book was rebound.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Beautifully rebound. Beautifully rebound by someone who sent this in. I had a good friend of mine years ago who did bookbinding. That's a lot of work. I can't imagine how much work it is to do the book binding, to take apart an existing book and book bind it, to fold these pages. Oh, it's amazing. I can barely read a book.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And when I say barely, what I mean is I fall asleep every time I try to read a book. I started to too, yeah. I do the same thing when I meditate. If I meditate or read a book, I fall asleep. Haley is very, very good at meditating. So over the last few years, is very, very good at meditating. So over the last few years, she's gotten very good at meditating.
Starting point is 00:04:08 And I've gotten very good at taking 10 minute naps. That's what I do. I nap every single time. I pass out. They say that if you meditate and you take a nap while you're meditating, that you were meant to sleep and that's okay. And I'm like, I love you meditating people.
Starting point is 00:04:20 You guys are my favorite because I wish they did that at church where you're just like, you were praying and you fell asleep and that at church where you're just like you were praying and you fell asleep and that meant God wanted you to fall asleep send me to church
Starting point is 00:04:29 all the time I want to sleep all the time if that's the benchmark then no matter what the activity is I was meant to sleep no meant to sleep
Starting point is 00:04:35 it doesn't matter we go to we go to this once a week or so we go to this restorative yoga it's this very gentle like you hold a position
Starting point is 00:04:44 for like 8, 9, 10 minutes at a time in these very gentle like restorative poses. It's this very gentle, like you hold a position for like eight, nine, 10 minutes at a time in these very gentle like restorative poses. It's something like for Haley to kind of help with some of the stuff
Starting point is 00:04:51 she's going through. We go, I've never stayed awake during it. Like never. There's an end part to it where there's like a meditation portion
Starting point is 00:04:59 and I'll get nudged because I'm snoring in class. That's amazing. I've never, you know me. There's no chance. I know. There's no chance I'm going to be awake. I have snoring in class. That's amazing. I've never, you know me. There's no chance. I know. There's no chance
Starting point is 00:05:07 I'm going to be awake. I have to nudge him while he's eating sometimes. He'll be mid pizza slice. I'll be like, oh, wake up, buddy. Wake up. I got to give him an O.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Wake up. That's amazing. All right. So, Tom. Yes, sir. We're back in the studio with modern things that are happening, not recording, deep, deep into the future.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Did anything happen while I was gone? Any important things? Anything important happen while you were gone? You know, I'll tell you what, Cecil. I'm not going to lie. While you were gone, I took a pretty significant news break. Did you? Good for you.
Starting point is 00:05:41 So did I, yes. I don't know what happened. I didn't like, I mean, I still like listen to the Daily every day and I still listen to like What Next? It's a Slate podcast, but I did not open up, I don't think more than once or twice, like the Times app and just read the newspaper like I do every day. Yeah. I didn't listen to like NPR.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I didn't listen to The Seven. I just kind of like all the daily, like I just took a step back. You just took a step back, yeah. I just took a step back. I saw that there were some things that were happening. I saw that there was some rumblings about possibility of Donald Trump. Trump might get indicted again.
Starting point is 00:06:13 He might get indicted again. There's a possibility of grand jury tomorrow. I thought that they said that there's a possibility of grand jury. I might hear some stuff tomorrow. Well, you know, when it happens, it happens. That the electors, the false electors. Yeah, the fake electors in Michigan. I think there's some hullabaloo about whether or not
Starting point is 00:06:30 that's going to- I saw some of that, but I was out of the country, so I wasn't seeing a ton of stuff. Isn't that nice, man? It really is nice. It's really nice. And I didn't, you know, the thing is I did have access to Fox News, but I also had access to BBC and Sky News too. So I was watching more of that. And that's like world stuff. It's not just, hey, here's how America sucks. It's like, hey, here's how the world sucks. Also, it's on fire.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Well, yeah. All that happened while you were gone, Cecil, is everything got all the hot. Yeah, hot. Like we basically, well, it was hot and wet. Evidently it was wet too. Well, hey, hey we basically... Well, it was hot and wet. Evidently, it was wet, too. Yeah, well, hey, hey. So, Kelly... And if you want to get hot and wet...
Starting point is 00:07:10 Abortions for all. Very well. No abortions for anyone. Abortions for some. Miniature American flags for others this story comes from the washington post blue state doctors launch abortion pill pipeline into states with bans so this is essentially a medical care underground railroad. Yeah. This is like,
Starting point is 00:07:48 you know, actually, this is like Silk Road, you know? Like, we are treating genuine care, not drugs of recreation, but genuine drugs of care and necessity. Oh, yeah, interesting. As if they were drugs of recreation
Starting point is 00:08:04 now. They have to go through a Byzantine black market. Black market style. Oh yeah, interesting. As if they were drugs of recreation now. They have to go through a Byzantine black market. Black market style. Because that's essentially what's been created in these fucking trash states. They have forced doctors to perform medicine under the radar
Starting point is 00:08:19 at terrible, terrible risk to themselves, Cecil. Yeah, that's the thing that draws me is that these people who are prescribing this medication, they're using a system outside of the country that sends those drugs over
Starting point is 00:08:36 and they're using it to get the drugs and then repackage them in smaller packages and send them so they don't know where they're coming from because these states could sort of figure out- They're going to try to backtrace. They'll block that stuff from coming in. So they want to stop these abortion drugs from getting in.
Starting point is 00:08:54 But this person will repackage them and send them all over and send them to states where they can't get them, right? So this person is working from New York and New York has passed these laws recently that allow this sort of thing to happen where the drugs come in and then they're able to go back out again. And there's a couple of these states that are doing this to sort of show that we can care for people outside our state, right? Someone outside our state needs help and we can care for them. The problem is, is that inside these states, there is a chance
Starting point is 00:09:28 that the person, this person who's sending it out, this doctor who's sending it out to people, they could be brought up on charges in that state as big as attempted murder in some of these states. We're talking years behind bars if they get caught doing this, but that hasn't slowed them the tiniest bit. It hasn't. And there has been floated, and I don't know if it's been passed,
Starting point is 00:09:56 but there has been floated in some of the blue states that they're just going to be like, we're not going to comply with extradition on these grounds to other states. Now, that is a huge testing ground, right? Because interstate extradition, I don't know that they would win that. I don't know if they wouldn't, right? But interstate extradition has been something which was unquestionably done
Starting point is 00:10:22 because we're the same country, right? You can't kill somebody in Ohio and then flee to Indiana. Right. And then Indiana's like, well, who'd you kill? Well, this guy. Well, fuck that guy. We're not going to extradite you. Like you're right.
Starting point is 00:10:34 You just get to get away with murder over state lines. But this country's become so fractious and so divided that, you know, you cross a state line and we are living in different worlds. And I am really worried here. I mean, if you did not have enough, and if you didn't have enough, I can't understand, literally can't understand who you are. But if you did not have enough reasons
Starting point is 00:10:57 to go to the polls and fucking vote and to vote blue, and I don't give a shit, to vote blue no matter who, here is what will happen. I feel like this is a guarantee. Here's what will happen if the Republicans had the House, the Senate, and the executive branch, right? What they would do is pass a law making it illegal for doctors to practice medicine with patients that live over a state line. They will draw a fucking hard line of fucking practice demarcation. That is just going to be true. That is just going to be true. And then your guy in New York is not going to be able to take a telehealth visit with somebody sitting in, or like a doctor in Illinois will not be able to
Starting point is 00:11:46 take a patient based on where they live, right? Like if I want to drive over from Missouri into Illinois to get care because Missouri is a fucking trash state, they may or may not be able to do that. Or they want to drive in from Wisconsin, they may or may not be able to do that. Federal legislation will be floated and passed if they control the house the senate and the executive branch i mean also all they have to do is ban this pill yeah oh yeah that's so if they ban this pill then there needs to be something else that comes out that is similar and if it's similar it might also be banned in this way, right? And that's not something, if this gets banned, if abortion gets banned, if all these things that could fall, the Supreme Court that
Starting point is 00:12:34 we have now is 100% going to uphold those laws. Those will not be unconstitutional. The moment they ban the day after whatever pill or whatever this is, the abortive pill, this will 100% be upheld if it gets turned into a law. And expect that to happen if they have all three branches of government. Expect it to happen. Expect it. That will happen. So they've already said, I mean, hell, Pence is running on a platform that says he wants to ban abortion. I mean, Pence is running on a platform that says he wants to ban abortion. I mean, Pence is running on that. It got me thinking about sanctuary cities, where there's an idea that certain cities aren't going to comply with federal laws.
Starting point is 00:13:17 But that's different than complying with another state's laws, right? But there is a weirdness here because you're talking about murder. Well, murder is bad everywhere. There's nobody who's going to be like, well, you can kind of murder here. That's okay. You can kind of, I guess, Florida, stand your ground. There's not a lot of places where they're going to be like, you can kind of, there are wildly different rules about things in different places. And so that extradition stuff, that's going to be flexed. There's going to be some pull back and forth because they're wildly different rules. Yeah. And I think-
Starting point is 00:13:51 In these two different places. Yeah. I think that the federal, and I could be wrong about this, but it has always been my understanding that one of the jobs of the federal marshals was to be this sort of, you know, go get them boys if somebody has crossed state lines, right? And then the local, you know, the Indiana police can't find you and you're wanted in Ohio and you've crossed state lines. Like, you know, the federal government has mechanisms,
Starting point is 00:14:21 not just people, but also mechanisms to help enforce the extradition of states. Another reason to have a blue, because then they just wouldn't do it. Right. We have to, we cannot put ourselves in a place as a country where we allow the Republicans to take control ever again. This is sudden death of your rights.
Starting point is 00:14:42 It is. That's what it is. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. That's exactly right. You know, like right now, the pill abortion is typically, in America,
Starting point is 00:14:54 it's typically a two pill protocol. So there's a pill, it's mephipristone. And then there's another pill that also starts with an M that I can't remember off the top of my head. And they're having a hard time. I'm sorry. What is it?
Starting point is 00:15:05 Mephistopheles? But I know that in parts of Europe, they just use one pill. They don't use both pills because one pill is effective very, very often. It's just that two pills is less unpleasant and a little bit more effective. I see. And so I do also think that we may be reduced in order to move our way around these political obstacles. It's a horror show, man. It's a fucking nightmare. It's fucking Handmaid's Tale
Starting point is 00:15:56 shit. It's like, do you live in Gilead or not Gilead? It is. I am fucking flabbergasted. We talked just before we got on the record. When I was driving here, I was listening to a podcast. I was catching up on the news. I was like, oh shit, I got to do a news show.
Starting point is 00:16:11 And I was catching up on a podcast. I don't remember which one. And they were covering the case that's now being heard where a bunch of women, and this is egregious as fuck, a bunch of women who had suffered terrible pregnancy complications and they were denied access to care because they lived in Texas, and they were suing Ken Paxton, the attorney general in Texas, and they were giving testimony.
Starting point is 00:16:37 And when they were giving testimony, they were describing in just vivid, gut-wrenching detail. I mean, it was so upsetting, Cecil, that according to this podcast I was listening to, and it was either, like, it was like, what next, like a Slate podcast or one of these big news podcasts. Like, even the attorneys for the state defending
Starting point is 00:16:54 were crying listening to this. I mean, it's, like, we've reached that level of human impact. Yeah. And still, they are saying, well, and one of the ways they tried to get the case thrown out, Cecil, is they said, well, since these women are no longer
Starting point is 00:17:12 pregnant, they don't have standing any longer. Because they're no longer being harmed by the state. So they were harmed, but they're not actively being harmed now, and any future harm is hypothetical. We're talking about like that kind of like fucking verbal gymnastics and ethical backflips that are being asked of people.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Like, how can you look somebody in the eye and be like, yeah, I know that like you miscarried because you weren't allowed access to care and you became septic and you were in the hospital for a week. But you know what? Because you're not pregnant now, you don't have standing to sue. And they're trying to dismiss based on that. They asked one of the women who, I think they asked all the women actually the same question. All of the women who gave testimony, the attorney for the state defending Ken Paxton said did Ken Paxton personally tell you not to have an abortion? and these women are like yeah by passing a law right
Starting point is 00:18:12 yeah like in his capacity as attorney general yes he did yeah right yes he did so but they were forced to be like I never spoke with Ken Paxton
Starting point is 00:18:19 I never spoke with him yeah right wow I guess the best type of right is technically right yeah it's gotten it's gotten bad it's so pedantic and stupid He spoke with him, yeah. Right. Wow. I guess the best type of right is technically right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:26 It's gotten bad. It's gotten so pedantic and stupid. How does that even get passed? I just don't get, sometimes I just don't understand the law, man. I just don't get it. Wouldn't you want to stand up and walk out if you were a juror? Wouldn't you as a judge just want to reach down
Starting point is 00:18:39 and be like, come here, lean in, lean in. Yeah, right. I just want to whack you one. Yeah. Just lean in real quick. I'm sorry, this court should be full of serious people. You in. Lean in. I just want to whack you one. Just lean in real quick. I'm sorry. This court should be full of serious people. You're seriously an asshole.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Bailiff, hit him with a stick until he stops. Thank you. Yeah, that's what I want to see. There should be like just like, and make it just like a wiffle ball bat. I don't want to hurt him. I just want him to be in, I just want him to sting a little
Starting point is 00:18:58 while he's getting walloped. Just like a humiliation. Yeah, just a humiliation. Like it should be, it should actually be painted like a giant dick too. So just get walloped with a wiffle ball bat that looks like a dick. There should be a courtroom dunstick. If you make an argument.
Starting point is 00:19:12 There should be a hat. You have to wear the hat. You have to sit and wear the stupid hat. Okay, counsel, in the corner. The corner where your dunstick. I'm sorry. Did you say what was she wearing? In the corner, counsel.
Starting point is 00:19:24 In the corner. Actually, I want you to go outside and paint a fence and listen to what you did. Think about what you did. This bitch. This bitch. This bitch. This bitch. This story comes from the New Republic.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Class, Boebert literally tosses pin honoring school shooting victim in the trash. What is class? Class is just like saying she's classy? Meaning like she's got no class? That's amazing. I know. It's so bitchy. It's so bitchy. It's so bitchy. I put it on the big screen. That is so bitchy.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I love it so much. And I think there's video I think you can watch the video okay so we can watch these real quick now these don't have a lot of sound I don't think there's a ton of sound here but we'll watch it
Starting point is 00:20:12 oh you gotta go to Twitter now to watch it yay Twitter alright so let me we hope you take action on gun violence prevention Thank you. Have a nice day. We hope you take action on gun violence prevention. Okay. Holy shit. So that's part one.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And then here's part two. And I'm going to describe what we just saw to the people at home that are just listening. So here's what we just saw. Lauren Boebert walking really fast in a pair of heels. Desperately trying to avoid questions. Genuinely.
Starting point is 00:20:55 It's like when somebody is coming up and they're going to ask you for money and you try to run. It's like when a guy tries to sell me siding and I start to walk really fast. So what happened was is, for the people who aren't watching, Lauren Boebert is just walking down the halls of the Congress.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And as someone walks up and says, hey, here's a pin from someone who was killed in Uvalde. It's a pair of gym shoes. Yep. That they were wearing when they were murdered. You can wear it, you know, because they were wearing their fucking AR-15 pins. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Right. So they can, they can easily just put this pin, you know, just actually aim the AR-15 pin at the shoes. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And that's very accurate. That's an accurate, that's an accurate way in which we were, but in any case, they hand her this pin and she takes it in her hand and she walks faster.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Yep. She speeds up, walks faster and then throws it in the garbage. They notice she throws it in the garbage because they walk right past her with the camera that's cut and they show it inside the garbage. Yeah, and they ask her, like,
Starting point is 00:21:54 will you take action to prevent, like, gun violence? And she says no. Yeah. She says no. And I grabbed this story because it is, no and i i grabbed this story because it's it is what what i like is that it is it is a succinct fucking answer to a cogent clear question will you take action so so the actual question let me let me make sure i read it real quick i don't want to paraphrase she immediately said i hope you can take action on gun violence prevention. And she said, no.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Yeah. And that's the Republican stance. Yeah. Will you help? Hey, people are getting shot like little kids, little fucking kids in the dozens now are being murdered while they're at school. And like, hey, here's a pin. We should maybe we should. Will you help?
Starting point is 00:22:43 Will you do anything? No, they're not even like there help? Will you do anything? No. They're not even like, there's not even a pretense toward action. The answer is the perfect answer. And I think what's important here is that we listen to her. I want people to know and to listen and to be like, this is all these fuckers. This is every Republican, right? We don't need to listen to them give their fucking background checks and enforce the laws that are already on books. Just skip all of it. Skip all
Starting point is 00:23:11 of it. All of it's nothing. The question is simple. Will you take action to prevent gun violence? No. No. No. Asked and answered. That's the stance. Yeah. And think about this in a different context. Think about this not as gun control. Let's imagine that there's a bunch of people out in the world and they're upset about how fast, let's say they're saying 70 miles an hour is too fast on your roads. Too many people are dying. There's too many, we got to slow down on the roads. Let's just say that that's what their stance is. And they have a little ribbon with like a steering wheel or something on it. And they walk up to somebody. Even if you don't agree with them, right?
Starting point is 00:23:49 I don't agree with those people. But no, 70 miles an hour is fine. You know, yeah, people die, but you know, we take a modicum of risk when we get into a car. Let's say I don't agree with you. Sure, right. What kind of person would you be
Starting point is 00:24:01 to say to that person who lost somebody and say, not only do I disagree, I am going to but disagree with it so vehemently that you're willing to hurt the people who lost someone with a brazen act of just being a fucktard. Yeah. Like, what is wrong with you? You're a bad human being. You're a bad person. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:40 There's nothing good in you. Nothing good. These are fucking gargoyles, man. That's what these fucking people are like. You know, the reason they're able to throw that away is they never cared and they're not here to help. Yeah. They're here. They don't have like some principled stance. Right. Like it's not like it's not like they're saying, you know, I have a principled stance about driving and freedom. They're just saying, I won't help. I don't care. I won't even hold this pin in reverence to the lost life of someone. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And throwing away that pin, she knows this is going to get put on video. And the thing is that, man, throwing away that pin and saying I don't give a fuck, and here's who I am, and I will never help, and I'll never fix gun control, there is a segment of the population, which is not insignificant, which will vote this horrible fucking gargoyle back into office
Starting point is 00:25:39 because, not in, not like even though, but because she's a horrible gargoyle. Because the gargoyle contingent of this country is real. No, and I disagree. And what makes me crazy is that I think about the conversations that used to happen that would have been a lot more measured. Someone would, you know, hand that pin to Mitt Romney. He's not throwing it away, man.
Starting point is 00:26:07 He's not throwing it away. Now, he's never going to vote on anything that is gun control related. He comes from a place where that is frowned upon and his constituency doesn't want it and he doesn't want it. And so there's never a chance he's going to do it. But if you gave that pin to him, there's a different response and a different something else happens at the end of that.
Starting point is 00:26:29 You input those numbers, that equation, and then later on, the answer is different. That he might say something like, oh, you know, I'm so sorry that they lost all their lives. I will keep this pin, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:26:42 You know, I respect that. Whatever he says, like whatever politician, it's not hard to fucking be against this stuff and still take that pin. It doesn't take that much. It takes, it takes like a 75, like a room temperature IQ.
Starting point is 00:26:57 That's what you need. You need to be a room temperature IQ in order to even just take that pin and not vote for something. It's okay. I mean, there's so many, you don't even have to be a craft that pin and not vote for something. It's okay. I mean, there's so many, you don't even have to be a crafty politician to do it. No. You inarticulate moron. You don't even get your fucking PR guy out here to craft a statement. A hundred percent do it.
Starting point is 00:27:14 So I got to ask you a question. I think it's actually an important question. Are we better or worse off that the politicians now are not even bothering with the symbols of politeness. Did we care before? Do you think we cared before? Because like while you were talking, like when you were saying
Starting point is 00:27:32 like Mitt Romney would not vote to change. What's different is like if you don't vote to change, there's not functionally a difference between Mitt Romney and Lauren Boebert, right? Because they both have power.
Starting point is 00:27:44 They both refuse to use the power to make the world better and safer. So functionally, they're the same. What's different is that a guy like Mitt Romney is still bothering with the polite symbols. And like the new contingent of politics, we're not bothering with those polite symbols anymore. politics, we're not bothering with those polite symbols anymore. And I don't honestly know if that's better because it's more honest in some way, or if it's worse because it encourages an amplification of meanness. I think it models bad behavior. See, I feel like that too. My gut tells me it amplifies cruelty. That's the problem. I think it models the bad behavior and people think that bad behavior is okay. I think that as crazy as it sounds,
Starting point is 00:28:33 I feel like people got their cues on behavior from politicians more than we cared to admit before. And I think that as they have changed and as things have morphed and as the mask has come off, more and more people are getting their cues from politicians.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I think they always have. They've become... But I think that they're... I think that now it feels more obvious. Maybe I'm wrong. And I'm happy to hear another...
Starting point is 00:29:01 another... someone else's ideas on why that might be. But I'll tell you what, they certainly are modeling bad behavior. And if they're modeling that bad behavior, I'm seeing it picked up in other places where it wasn't before. And I don't think you're wrong because I think that what we're seeing is like a convergence of politics and influencer culture. Yeah. is like a convergence of politics and influencer culture. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And politicians are becoming their own kind of influencer. And so when the politics begins to be like, I think I'm settled on this question. I think when the politics becomes reflective and reflexive cruelty, when cruelty becomes a kind of political heroism, then we endorse and magnify and amplify cruelty as a value. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And I think that that's kind of the place we're moving into. We're like, because Lauren Boebert, what she did is the same as Mitt Romney, but it's also not. Because while they both were refusing to make change, she's injecting cruelty into the system. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Right? And that cruelty will make of her a hero to other people seeking to make cruelty a heroistic virtue. Yeah, something of virtue. Yeah, cruelty of virtue. And that's a snowball of shit that rolls downhill and gets bigger and works. And if you listen, every week, cruelty is not a virtue.
Starting point is 00:30:28 We say it. What a fucking horrible. Yeah, man. No, she's horrible, dude. She's horrible. And watch this happen. And you just think to yourself, you're a person who has great sway over how the country turns and shifts. You are a person who has great sway over how the country turns and shifts. You are a person who has great sway over that.
Starting point is 00:30:47 You're a person who has the ear of millions of people whenever you want it. And at your whim, I mean, she can be on any talk show you want to be. Yeah, if she called MSNBC, CNN. Doesn't matter. She's getting an interview. She'll get on.
Starting point is 00:31:02 She's getting an interview. These are power. It's like the fucking, you know, in many ways, it's like the hypocrisy and absurdity of those fucking
Starting point is 00:31:12 howler monkey assholes who wrote like silenced, you know, like Marjorie Taylor Greene did. She went to Congress with a piece of tape on her mouth that said like silenced.
Starting point is 00:31:22 And it's like, how the fuck are you silenced? You're the least silenced person ever. How the fuck are you silenced you're the least silenced person ever you silenced yeah outrageous pick up pick up the phone you get an interview in front of millions of people tomorrow and you're silenced and it's because she got kicked off her committee assignments for like anti-semitic conspiracy theory like insanity yeah like insane got them back. Now she's got them all back.
Starting point is 00:31:46 And let's talk for a second. Let's talk about her. She's the worst. Because she's a really genuinely terrible person. Look, I'm not saying, here's the thing. You know how you're not
Starting point is 00:31:54 supposed to put all the most important people on the same airplane? Yeah. I'm just leaving that out there. That's all I'm doing. I'm just leaving that out there. That's the one you're just rolling the dice every time. I'm just saying. Come on. That's all I'm doing. I'm just leaving that out there. That's the one you're just rolling the dice every time.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I'm just saying. Come on. Go, go, go. La la bamba. All right. This story also from the New Republic. Republicans have so little Hunter Biden evidence, they shared his nudes instead.
Starting point is 00:32:20 That's not a joke. That's not a joke. It's not a joke. The images, you can't see them on Fox News. I'm going to put these on the big screen so you can see them. Because they're fucking nude, man. Because they're like,
Starting point is 00:32:28 it's him like throat fucking somebody. Like he's getting a blowy from somebody and there's a picture and she's got this uncensored version in Congress showing everyone this image of Hunter Bideniden getting a blow job this is a stolen image yeah this is non-consensually shared yeah this is a stolen image this is absolutely revenge
Starting point is 00:32:58 this how is this legal how in the fuck is this legal? This is insane. Like if somebody found, I guarantee if somebody stole Marjorie Taylor Greene's cell phone, this is the same thing. If somebody stole her cell phone and she had fucking sex vids out of her and her guy on her cell phone
Starting point is 00:33:19 and somebody like showed them to the world. In Congress. Yeah, don't you think she would lose her fucking mind? And somebody like showed them to the world. In Congress. Yeah. Don't you think she would lose her fucking mind? Don't you think she would sue or yell and scream or say that was unethical? It's literally the same thing. This has nothing to do with corruption or they've got nothing on any of that. It has nothing to do with anything.
Starting point is 00:33:40 It has nothing to do with anything. I don't even know why it was brought up. Yeah. Like I can't even. To humiliate. Like what they're trying to say is't even know why it was brought up. Yeah. Like, I can't even. To humiliate. Like, what they're trying to say is that he's a sex trafficker now. Right. Because he had sex with somebody that appears to be, like, there's no implication that the person he's having sex with is underage.
Starting point is 00:34:07 play into the conspiracy theories about how the people on the left are sex traffickers, killing people, adrenochrome. I mean, all that stuff, all that insanity, all that Q insanity, they are playing up to it. And this feeds that for them. So they want to get it out in the public record so they can get the Q people on their side. Do you know how rabidly the Q people have got to be flipping their shit right now? Oh, they got to be loving this. They got to love this stuff, even though it's revenge porn.
Starting point is 00:34:33 It's awful. It's 100%. He's not a public figure that should be even being investigated like this. There's no reason to do it. He has no connection to the government except for that he happens to be the son of the president. He's not it's not like all the fucking kids of
Starting point is 00:34:48 Trump that all had goddamn high level cabinet jobs and shit. No. They've never been part of any administration. You know, and I think everybody can look at Hunter Biden and be like, maybe he should have made better choices. For sure. But fucking who cares? I don't care. Like there are, everyone in the world
Starting point is 00:35:04 should make better choices. There's not a person who's immune to are, everyone in the world should make better choices. There's not a person who's immune to bad choices. I should have made some better choices. Like I've made bad choices in my life.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I've made good choices, but seriously, there's no one who's immune to that. So like the idea that someone's going to put you up on this,
Starting point is 00:35:19 in the middle of this congressional hearing and call out your worst choices that you made. Like I made really terrible choices in my life. I would hate to have a congressional hearing about those out your worst choices that you made. Like, I made really terrible choices in my life. I would hate to have a congressional hearing about those choices.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I know. For no reason other than I'm somehow tangentially related to someone who's powerful. And like, the thing is, like, with these pictures in particular, they don't even seem to represent a bad choice. Yeah. He's just having sex with somebody and filmed it. That's not like. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:49 That's, there's nothing like there's no, that's an ethically amoral thing to do. It lives in a space of less shrug. Sure. You know what I mean? Yeah. These are Christians that like all on the right, right? On the right is a bunch of fucking Christians. These should be the glass houses people
Starting point is 00:36:05 right let he who is without sin cast the first stone jesus they're gonna fucking stone a fucking adulterer right jesus rolls up hey man like y'all got fucking clean hands and they're all like absolutely not then they piece the fuck out and jesus is like stand up bitch let's walk that's the fucking sin they're all just like- That's the story. That's the story. That's the story. That's your story. That's not my story. I don't believe that ever happened. I don't like that story.
Starting point is 00:36:29 I don't care. Like, that's your story. And you're just like, here's his nudes. And I'm just like, cool, man. What if like, fucking nudes of Tom get leaked?
Starting point is 00:36:39 I'd be like, weird. Why are you looking at my nudes, weirdo? I'm not that good looking. Yeah. His whole thing, though, is that he had to plead for a crime that he committed. Yeah, and he did. He's done some things that, you know, and you're like, okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:36:59 That's fine. But it has nothing to do with anything. Right? The bad choices he's made in his life, those he's, he's done something about. Right? He had to plead guilty for a couple accounts
Starting point is 00:37:11 and he, and he's going to have to serve time or probation or any of those things. Suffer consequences. Suffer those consequences. He reaped.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Now he's got to sow. That's how it works. Right? That's how it works. Or sows what he reaped or I don't know how that saying works. Reap what you sow? Reap what you sow, but I don't know if he's got to reap before he sows Or sows what he reaped, or I don't know how that saying works. Reap what you sow?
Starting point is 00:37:25 Reap what you sow, but I don't know if he's got to reap before he sows, or sows and then reaps. I'm not a farmer. So here's the thing I want to tell you about, though. He planted and now there's cucumbers. He certainly planted. I will say he planted.
Starting point is 00:37:37 If you see this live, he definitely planted. But this whole thing is just, what it is is, one, it's completely unrelated to anything that he was brought up on charges for. This is trying to make that laptop the center stage again, right? They're doing the best. There's nothing on it.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Because the things that he did wrong, he's already accounted for. And they're like, well, fuck, now what do we do? Well, let's try to get this laptop back in here. And so what they're going to do is they're going to pull shit off the laptop and show it to everybody. That's a horrible thing to do.
Starting point is 00:38:11 I can't believe that we are at a place now that this is okay. And one of the things that came out of this is that evidently she shared these images with a message, email message that she sent out. She might have distributed, I message that she sent out. She might have distributed, I read, revenge porn. There's a possibility
Starting point is 00:38:29 that she might have distributed revenge porn to minors who might have gotten that message. I hope she goes to fucking prison for this. Yeah. Because the thing is, like, revenge porn, which is, I looked this up the other day for something unrelated
Starting point is 00:38:45 I was just curious about it like I don't understand how but in many states it's not illegal huh I did not know that I think it's because
Starting point is 00:38:53 I was wondering if what states like a lot of states I'll have to look it back up again I'm just looking where I'm gonna kick an immunity because I'm checking it out it's like kind of insane
Starting point is 00:39:03 like I think I looked it up because I was talking to somebody and they were getting like, like the conversation of like dick pics came up and then we were talking like, is it illegal to just send somebody? Like it should be. I thought like it's got to be illegal
Starting point is 00:39:15 to just send somebody an unsolicited. It certainly is illegal if the camera isn't involved, right? It's certainly illegal for me to pull my dick out and show it to you. That's why I was like, that's got to be illegal. I can't just pull my cock out and show it to people. That's illegal. It's like crazy how few States that's right. Now that you mentioned it, I had never
Starting point is 00:39:36 occurred to me, but now that you mentioned, I'm thinking, well, it's just a picture of my dick and that should also, I mean, like, just because if I flash somebody on the subway, just because it's a moment in time doesn't mean it's not as grotesque as flashing someone in person. If I flash someone on the subway or I flash somebody on Facebook, it should be functionally identical.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I'm happy to hear the legal argument that fights against that. I don't know what that would be, but in my mind, the moment you say that, I'm like, well, that seems like it should be illegal. Like, I don't think you should say those sorts of things. I hope she did email this out state to state to state.
Starting point is 00:40:10 And I hope state after state after state that has laws against revenge porn come after her with felonies. I hope so. And I hope Hunter Biden comes after her. I hope he sues the fuck out of her.
Starting point is 00:40:20 And I hope he sues her into oblivion. I hope he sues the fuck out of her. In every jurisdiction she pushed this out into. Yeah. I hope he hurts her. I hope he sues the fuck out of her. And I hope he sues her into oblivion. I hope he sues the fuck out of her. In every jurisdiction she pushed this out into. Yeah. I hope he hurts her. Yeah. Financially and personally forever. She's protected here. So putting it out there
Starting point is 00:40:34 in Congress, she's allowed. No repercussions. There's no repercussions. She can't be. I don't. Because she's acting as a member of Congress. It's very difficult to even get anything done like that. Like there's a very, very, they got big bumpers, right? They can bounce into the wall a lot.
Starting point is 00:40:51 And there's a lot of leeway. And to some degree, I understand that. To a large degree, I understand that. And you know why you understand that? It's because you never expected somebody so heinous and stupid to be in that office. That's exactly right. You never expected somebody so bumbling yet evil to be in that office. That's exactly right. You know, you never expected somebody so bumbling, yet evil, to be in that office.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And so, of course you would say, yeah, well, they should have all the protections. But the moment somebody does this, you think, well, maybe fucking not. Yeah. Well, I mean, the note I wrote is like, there's nothing left in Congress, right? Congress has devolved into a place
Starting point is 00:41:21 where there is no decorum. There's no politeness. There's nothing that, like it used to be that some shit was beyond the pale. Do you remember the outrage? This will actually like take you back, but also, man, this was a minute ago. This was just a fucking minute ago.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Do you remember the outrage at how insane it was when Obama was giving the State of the Union? Oh, yeah. And somebody yelled, liar! Yeah. Because you don't yell. Like the rule had always been that serious, polite, decent people do not yell out in the
Starting point is 00:41:55 middle of the State of the Union and interrupt the president while he's speaking. And you know what? That's a good social etiquette rule. And where we're at now in Congress is there's essentially nothing left. We can show fucking revenge, stolen revenge porn pictures to try to like whip up a conspiratorial Reddit sub.
Starting point is 00:42:17 That's like what all this is aimed at is, man, let's get the 4chan trolls out. Let's get these fucking, you know, neck beard trash monkeys out. Like that's what they're aiming for. Let me go get invited to one of these fucking garbage pack. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:31 You know, so I can get on Nick Fuentes' radar again. One of these fucking white nationalists. Right. Because they don't even care anymore. They don't. They don't even care anymore. You got Tommy fucking Tuberville saying,
Starting point is 00:42:40 well, white nationalists, that's good. Yeah. I mean, you got people like that saying crazy shit like that. We live in a weird place, man.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Man, there's like nothing left. We're like. Hey, how's it going? I'm Nelly Furtado, and I'm bringing the party to the 2024 Juno Awards. Join me in Halifax for Canada's biggest night in music with performances by my friends, The Beaches, Maestro Fresh West,
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Starting point is 00:43:46 I know we've been ranting about a lot of bad stuff for a while about how there's no way to talk to each other. Well, it seems like this is actually good. There's an opportunity for somebody to talk to somebody. So yeah, Cecil, this story is from CNN, from their politics section. Senators introduced bipartisan ban on stock ownership for executive and legislative branch office holders and their families. And their families. Fucking good. And their families. And it's basically saying, if you want to trade any kind of stocks, put it in a blind trust. Yep. It's got to go in a blind trust and you don't get to have any kind of decision making. And not just you, but people in your family. You can't like whisper to your fucking wife or husband.
Starting point is 00:44:26 Hey man, you want to buy some, you want to dump that Tesla stock. We're about to fucking regulate this thing or that. Or you want to dump like what happened right before the pandemic. You want to dump all these stocks that you know are going to take a shit because of the pandemic and a bunch of people did it.
Starting point is 00:44:40 I mean, you watch it happen. And they made big money, man. That's like fucking, if anybody else does that, that's insider trading. Yeah. If anybody else does that. And the difference is that insider trading
Starting point is 00:44:50 covers, it's like the SEC is in charge of that shit and insider trading covers when I know something about a company that I work at. Well, the thing is like,
Starting point is 00:45:00 these politicians don't work at that company. They just know that the fucking rules, the laws, the laws, the regulations, the secret fucking knowledge that they're privy to
Starting point is 00:45:08 is going to affect stuff. They know when shit's going to happen. Because sometimes they're the ones affecting that stuff. They're the ones doing it. They're going to put shit in place to do bans and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:45:17 or whatever. They're going to put a mask mandate in. They're going to, they know for sure that like restaurants are going to suffer. They know for sure. We're on the verge of passing a bill to regulate crypto.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Let's all short sell Bitcoin. Cool. Cool. Like, by the way, cool. But like, for real, cool. But like, yeah, like they have so much power and influence and back office knowledge. influence and back office knowledge. And the idea that like,
Starting point is 00:45:46 we're just now getting around to being like, Hey man, maybe you shouldn't be able to leverage that for your own personal financial gain. Cause Holy shit. Yeah, man. Cause Holy shit. The,
Starting point is 00:45:54 the fact that it's Josh Holly, like the only good thing that person's ever done in his history period is this, but I, I, this is something that I think every American should be screaming for. Absolutely. Because this allows them
Starting point is 00:46:10 to not be controlled by corporations as much too. There's a push there that allows for this. And this could be huge. This could be huge. And it could also, you know, we talk about making it kind of be a pain point to be a senator. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:26 If you're not making as much money because you can't game the system as much, maybe some of these people who've been in there forever, who are still gaming the system, maybe Pelosi walks away. Right. You know, maybe other of these people who've been making a lot of goddamn money,
Starting point is 00:46:40 they're billionaire husbands or whatever. A lot of fucking money. Guess what? You just don't have that same sort of thing? Okay. Well, I guess I don't need to be you anymore. I'm going to go resign. I don't need to be here anymore.
Starting point is 00:46:50 And if you make it so that they're not going, easily going to make money, then I think this might be a great thing for America. Yeah, man. And like, I think, you know, if you're one of these, think about how susceptible to lobbying you are. Yeah. If you hold stocks and you've got portfolios that are bound up in a whole bunch.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Let's say you've got a bunch of money as a senator. Let's say you're, I don't know, fucking that asshole in West Virginia. What the fuck's his name? That asshole that says he's a Democrat and he's really a shithead Republican. Oh, yeah. That West Virginia coal mining piece of shit. I can't remember his name off the top of my that says he's a Democrat and he's really a shithead Republican. Oh, yeah. That West Virginia coal mining piece of shit. I can't remember his name off the top of my head. It's Sinema and Manchin.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Manchin. I have to remember him. Manchin, yeah. Which of the two assholes? I have to remember him in tandem or I don't remember him. It's like fucking Bert and Ernie. You think that guy's not heavily invested,
Starting point is 00:47:38 personally invested in the stocks of these big coal companies? You think that because of that, when lobbyists for coal come knock on his door, he's not thinking about how regulating those industries or opening himself, his area up to clean energy is going to impact his personal wealth? Of course he is.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Of course he is. Shouldn't be able to, like you said, shouldn't be able to hold that stock. You shouldn't be able to get rich. Blind trust, baby. Getting rich by being a civil servant should be mutually fucking exclusive and hopefully this this law goes through five heart is in his support is great i hope it goes through i hope so see fingers crossed here we go hey hey you suck yeah we got to talk about Robert Kennedy. Robert Kennedy is a piece of shit, conspiracy theorist, anti-vaxxer, running as a Democrat. Running as a Democrat.
Starting point is 00:48:36 What do you mean, third party candidate, Tom? As a Democrat. Do you mean third party candidate, Tom? Because I think he might run as a third party candidate, Tom. Really? I thought he was running as a Democrat. I don't think he's going to win the nomination, Tom. Oh, he won't win it, but you think he'll continue the race.
Starting point is 00:48:51 I think that's good. Do you? I do. I don't think he pulls any significant amount of blue vote, and I think he does pull a bunch of anti-vax fucking weirdos from the right. There's anti-vax weirdos on the left too tom that's true but it's not like that and not like it's not like we they have a
Starting point is 00:49:10 fucking monopoly that fucking anti-vax started on the left it did start on the left you're not wrong it did start on the left i just like his brand of he pulls pretty well with Democrats from what I've seen. God, I just don't- 20% or something like that like him. Who likes this guy? Tom. He's the worst. He's the worst. He is the worst. He's the worst.
Starting point is 00:49:31 What I would love to see though, because I don't know, have you seen this guy working out? Have you seen the pictures of him working out? No, what? So this dude's stacked. Is he ripped? I don't know if you've seen him.
Starting point is 00:49:39 He's fucking stacked. He's like a big dude. Really? And you know he's on the juice. He is 100% on the juice. He's like a big dude. Really? You know he's on the juice. He's not a young guy. There's no way he looks like he does. You gotta show me a picture. You gotta show me a picture.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Goddamn! How old is this guy? Let's go. I love that they put stuff on here. It covers so much of his screen. That's a fit boy. You see that?
Starting point is 00:50:17 There's, there's no way he's not on the juice. There's no way that's natural. There's no way he's not on the juice. How old is he? Look at, also, he's fucking ripped his shit and he did like nine pushups
Starting point is 00:50:27 and was like... So like, what is happening there too? Well, I mean, he's like... He probably doesn't have a fucking shit ton of cardio. He's almost 70, 69. Jesus Christ. He's 69 years old and he looks like that. I mean, he's fucking...
Starting point is 00:50:41 Don't tell me. Don't tell me he's not on the juice though. That's just a thousand percent on the juice. But here's what I would love to see. Yeah. I mean, he's fucking jet. Don't tell me he's not on the juice though. That's just a thousand percent on the juice. But here's what I would love to see. I would love to be like, when somebody starts talking to me about how they fucking hate vaccines and all this stuff, I'd be like, cool, you want to do a blood test right now?
Starting point is 00:50:56 Do you want to do a blood test and see what's in there? Can we see what's in there? A thousand percent you're going to piss hot. Will you piss in this cup for me right now? Because I would love to see what's in there. A thousand percent you're going to piss hot. Will you piss in this cup for me right now? Because I would love to see what's in that right now. Right. Because that's what's
Starting point is 00:51:09 going on there. No. That doesn't look like what I think is going to happen with like a normal person. No. I don't think, I don't think,
Starting point is 00:51:16 There's no way. I don't think you look like a muscular potato all the time. I don't think that's possible. I just, like when I see it, I think,
Starting point is 00:51:24 I think you're such a fucking liar. Yeah, man think that's possible. I just, like when I see it, I think, I think you're such a fucking liar. Right? When I hear this guy talk, when I hear what he has to say, I think you're a fucking liar. You, you do,
Starting point is 00:51:34 all the things that he's, he's warning against and he's a fucking crazy about black people where he's talking about how black people, he,
Starting point is 00:51:42 he wrote a book about anti-vax stuff where he, you know, looked on the internet a little while and found some citations that agree with him. So he put them in his book. But here's a guy who has been spreading this anti-vaccination lie forever.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I don't even know if this is going to be good on YouTube now that I think about it. Because we'll talk about vaccinations. And I wonder if this is going to, we're going to get fucking banned again. Are we going to get kicked off of God's end? Even though we clearly are fucking pro-vaccine, man. 100% pro-vaccine.
Starting point is 00:52:11 I fucking want everybody to get vaccination. Can we just say that out loud? I literally have every vaccine available in the United States. For the COVID. I've taken them all. You've taken them all. I've taken every COVID vaccine. Literally, they have not
Starting point is 00:52:26 approved a vaccine that I haven't put in my fucking arm. You've got the Moderna. You've got the Pfizer. Johnson & Johnson. You've got the Johnson & Johnson. Double Pfizer. Did you get the other one? The Asymmetrica or whatever it is? No, is that approved? I'll go AstraZeneca. AstraZeneca. I'll go get that bitch.
Starting point is 00:52:42 I'll fucking do shots. I'll fucking... Give me those. I've got them all. I'll go get that bitch. Stick it. I'll fucking do shots. I'll fucking... Give me those. I've got them all. Yeah. I've got them all. I've gotten every booster. I've gotten boosters for the boosters
Starting point is 00:52:52 I wasn't supposed to boost. I like go to Walgreens one day and CVS the next. I'm pro-vaccine, man. Like pro-vaccine as you can get. But the problem is is the algorithm on YouTube doesn't have any idea.
Starting point is 00:53:04 And the moment you talk about that vaccine, they're like, oh, you shouldn't be talking about the vaccine. Look, here's what I say about the vaccine. I'm going to say it very clearly in this episode that is going on YouTube so they know that I said it out loud. Trust your doctors and trust the scientists at the World Health Organization when it comes to vaccination for COVID and when it comes to vaccinations in general. Trust doctors, period. Don't trust dumbass politicians who don't know fuck all,
Starting point is 00:53:33 who went digging around on the internet to confirm their own fucking biases and write a book about it and then go on Joe Rogan's podcast where he can go, oh, oh, okay. Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, we got to get rid of Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 00:53:45 By the way, I want to mention, we got a voicemail after we played that segment on, we talked about Joe Rogan having this idiot on his show. And if you missed that show, Joe Rogan had RFK on his show. RFK said, hey, there's this stuff called fucking brain bleeding or brain blood barrier. You should search for it.
Starting point is 00:54:04 You should look it up. And Jamie, the assistant for Joe Rogan, Googled it, found it, and then started reading it. The person called our show, and I don't know if this is true or not, but a person called our show and said, by the way, that website that they were looking is RFK's website.
Starting point is 00:54:20 So he seeded the words that you called it. Cause you said, if you type in these words, right, you will go to a site that he wants you to go to. Cause those words are only used in conjunction by quacks. And that's what happened. Someone said they found his site and was reading his site back to him. Of course. Of course. Look, look, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is a fucking weird racist. Yeah. He's a fucking anti-Semite. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:50 He's a goddamn conspiracy theorist. He's a anti-vax guy. He is wrong. He's a liar. He just straight up is a liar. He's been on shows and he's done interviews where he's said crazy shit, like just straight out lies.
Starting point is 00:55:07 There's tens of thousands of studies that back this thing up, this claim up. And it's like, there's not tens of thousands of studies on one subject at all, right? That's insane. He's also gone on shows and said things like, well, none of the vaccines have ever been placebo tested. They've all been placebo tested. All of them have been placebo tested. Every single one has been placebo tested. He lies. He just straight up is a liar. Like he's also an environmentalist. That's the only blue thing I can understand about this motherfucker. He is straight up an environmentalist. And to give him credit, he has some significant amount of responsibility and credit to be taken for helping to clean up the Hudson River. And the Hudson River in and around the New York area was polluted to the point of disgust.
Starting point is 00:56:02 It's in New York. You didn't have to say that. Yeah, sorry. It's in New York. And so then everything else say that. Yeah, sorry. It's in New York and so then everything else follows. Yeah, it's just- We knew it. It's full of rats.
Starting point is 00:56:08 We knew that. It's just a rat river. Garbage juice and rats. It's a rat river. It's garbage juice with a garbage bag and a rat on it. Now, don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Like, no one's going to take a drink out of the Hudson anytime soon. Yeah. But it's vastly better than it was. Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:22 And he should have- He does deserve some significant amount of credit from what I've read for his advocacy to get some of that to happen. Cool, man. You were right about one thing, but like literally can't find a second thing this guy's right about.
Starting point is 00:56:36 There's not another thing that I see and I think, oh, that's the best. His anti-Semitism comes when he talks about how he says that the virus was avoiding Jewish people. Yeah. He said, and he used worse terms than I just used. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:53 And then he's also talking about how he steers black people away from vaccines in general, saying that they are more likely to be vaccine injured, which is not true. No. He's, it's just, he's lying. Like you say, he's a liar. But then he's also racist about it. It's so racist.
Starting point is 00:57:13 That shit is so racist. And he's so fucking stupid. He doesn't even know that that's racist. Yeah. Like this is a guy I can't, and the fact that he polls well. Poll polls well enough where he's not going to. There's no way he'd win a primary, but I think he polls well enough. So they think that it's good to keep dropping money behind him because what what what happens in this fight is that Biden will be fighting with him in some way.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Even if he doesn't, even if there is no primary, right? Even if he doesn't primary him and there isn't actually a primary, there will still be him on the circuit. And if it's someone on the circuit attacking Biden that happens to be a Democrat, it's better for them than the Republicans. So they fund him.
Starting point is 00:58:03 It makes sense for them to fund him. The only consolation is, and I'm just going to say this the way I say this, the only consolation is he is a Kennedy running for president. Oh, Jesus Christ. I'm just saying. Well, he is getting shot. It's just a different kind of shot.
Starting point is 00:58:20 He's getting testosterone shots. I am only saying. Telling me, man. He is getting a lot of testosterone. That dude is on. He's on like a Hulk Hogan regimen. Dude, I know I've mentioned this before, but my barber is a nationally ranked. And when I say nationally ranked,
Starting point is 00:58:40 he's in the top two or three for his weight class power lifter. My barber's like legit, legit. Right. And so we talk and like, we, you know, I love the guy. I go every two weeks. Like he's, he's become a friend of mine. And like, so he knows what he's talking about is the reason I mentioned this.
Starting point is 00:58:55 And we were in the shop a few months ago, maybe six, eight months ago. And in the chair next to us was this guy, Cecil, who just like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Was red as all day long, right? Like, weirdly red skin. Like, you notice how fucking red RFK is? And the guy was, like, probably also late 60s, early
Starting point is 00:59:14 70s, and the dude was fucking built. Just straight up Mack truck built, man. And, like, he finished his haircut and he left. And Jonathan, he starts laughing. He's like, whatever that guy is and he left. And Jonathan, he starts laughing. He's like, whatever that guy is on is going to kill him tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Like, because Jonathan unabashedly juices. Like to be a power lifter, they don't test. They all juice, all these guys. He does a ton of gear. We've talked about the kind of stuff he does. I wouldn't do any of that stuff. He understands the risks and benefits of it. He's like, there's no fucking way.
Starting point is 00:59:45 This is a guy who's in the gym all day, every day, right? Like, he's like, there is no way a man that age looks like that without shooting everything at all. Like, everything. Lysol was in his face.
Starting point is 00:59:57 He just goes home, picks up a horse and puts it in a VitaBlood. For real, man. Drinks down a whole horse. Like, I'm sorry. Like, as we get older, like, no. No. And all those guys look red, dude. Drinks down a whole horse. Like, I'm sorry. Like, as we get older, like, no.
Starting point is 01:00:06 No. And all those guys look rad, dude. They all look fucking weirdly beat. Just look at him and tell me. And then I, like, I'm 100% serious. RFK, come on our show. But if you come on our show, you have to piss in a cup.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Piss test. And we get to test it and see what's in your body. I want to see what's in your fucking body before you tell everybody else to avoid medicines. Right. Okay? Fucking liar.
Starting point is 01:00:30 I know you are. But what am I? This is so good. This is so nom nom. This is the best thing. This whole show has been political. I don't know. I mean, we haven't really covered anything skeptical,
Starting point is 01:00:40 but that's okay. Sorry, guys. This is so good. I guess the RFK is skeptical stuff. I guess it is a little, yeah. Alright, so The Hill, Biden shares video of Marjorie Taylor Green's speech to promote
Starting point is 01:00:52 his agenda, and it fucking crushed, by the way. It's so good. It got fucking views. So here, all the tweet says, all Joe wrote was, I approve this message, and it's just Marjorie Taylor Green. Okay, so here we go. This is Marjorie Taylor Greene's
Starting point is 01:01:08 speech about Joe Biden that he turned into a commercial. It's so great. Joe Biden had the largest public investment in social infrastructure and environmental programs that is actually finishing what FDR started that LBJ expanded on,
Starting point is 01:01:24 and Joe Biden is attempting to complete programs to address education, medical care, urban problems, rural poverty, transportation, Medicare, Medicaid, labor unions, and he still is working on it. And the thing is like, it up it's so good can i just play how she says education really quickly i just want to play listen to how she listen to how she sneers the word education because she doesn't have one complete programs to address education, medical care, urban problems, rural... Urban problems. You know she wants to drop
Starting point is 01:02:08 an unworth there so bad. Oh my god. You know she's just dripping it right now. She's like, God, I want to just scream. I want to put my hood on. Can you let me put my hood on real quick? It's in my trunk. I bring it with me everywhere. God, it's such a great speech. She gave the speech and
Starting point is 01:02:23 to be honest, even after that, because I watched the speech she actually gave. Not the one that was edited. I watched the speech she actually gave. And when you're listening to it, she's saying all that stuff and she's trying to be sarcastic, but she's not very good at it.
Starting point is 01:02:39 So she's trying to be sarcastic and it's not coming off like that. It comes off like she's kind of saying, hey, Joe Biden did a pretty good job. Right. And then she stops at the very end and she says, he's still trying. He's still trying.
Starting point is 01:02:53 And then she calls him like a communist or whatever after it's all over. So he cut the communist part out or whatever it was at the very end. But it wasn't all that compelling. I watched it while she was the actual speech. And it's not like it's hugely damning. In fact, if you didn't tell
Starting point is 01:03:08 me ahead of time, I might have thought, what is she doing up there? Yeah, right. Like, is this AI or something? What is happening? Yeah, right. Like, there's no way this is real, except for like, the thing is, like, with Marjorie Taylor Greene, just like Lauren Boebert, just like Matt Gates, just like Josh Hawley, none of these guys are good
Starting point is 01:03:24 speakers. None of these guys are good speakers. None of these guys are charismatic. She's not charismatic. She is not a good speaker. What these people are is mean. They're mean and they're fearless in their obstruction. They are even a massive thorn in the side, even to Kevin
Starting point is 01:03:39 McCarthy. This contingent of dickheads are the ones who threw all the fucking like divisive wedge issue shit into the recent defense spending bill. Like that's all in there because Kevin McCarthy can't get his fucking arms around his own party. And these fucking people threw it in there. And like people on the right are just like, what the fuck are you all doing? We don't throw this in defense spending bills. What is even happening? Yeah, man. Like, what is even
Starting point is 01:04:07 happening? So these are not people who are, like, they're not famous and influential because they're well-spoken. They're not famous and influential because they know how to give a fiery, impassioned speech. They're famous and influential because they will throw blood in the gears. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:24 That's the only thing. You're right. They're just like, yeah, fucking throw blood in there.. Yeah. That's the only thing. You're right. They're just like, yeah, fucking throw blood in there. More blood. More blood. Yeah, man. I can't disagree. And I think like what is happening is that every time they speak and try to be clever,
Starting point is 01:04:38 they look buffoonish. Yeah, they're bad at it. And they're really bad at it. And this is a great, of all the things that you could say about Joe Biden, Joe Biden's a pretty good politician. Yeah. And he can easily sense when there's a way to manipulate them. And what a great troll this is.
Starting point is 01:04:52 I mean, really, genuinely. One, it's not mean-spirited. It's poking fun. So I think there is a difference there. And I think that this is a really awesome on the line sort of very funny thing to pull off that I think that his team did a
Starting point is 01:05:11 really good job pulling off. I think it's a really well done video that is clever and funny and at the same time highlights his message. But also, there's a lot of people, and I'm not saying this about just Republicans, because I'm sure there's plenty of unintelligent Democrats too, but there's a lot of people who follow
Starting point is 01:05:33 Marjorie Taylor Greene, very much like Marjorie Taylor Greene, probably are not super deep thinkers, and they might see something like this and be confused by it. Dude, I think this does- You know what I mean? Like, I wonder if there are some people who are not, you know, room temperature IQ people
Starting point is 01:05:52 who might just be a little confused by what they're hearing and what is happening. Why is she praising him? Should I think differently about Joe Biden? Should I think differently
Starting point is 01:06:02 about Marjorie Taylor Greene? It might change some. I'm not saying it will, but there's a possibility in some people that are a little... Yeah. A little dim. A little slow.
Starting point is 01:06:11 Yeah. You know? This is his, sir, this is a Wendy's moment. You know what I mean? It really is. Like... It really is.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Like, that's what it is. All he had to do was be like, you know what I mean? Like, I approve this message is the perfect caption. It really is great. Yeah. Like nothing more.
Starting point is 01:06:28 It's so mad. It's fucking amazing. It's so, it is. It's you mad, bro. It's you mad, bro. It's Sir, this is a Wendy's. It's fucking, it's so good.
Starting point is 01:06:39 I love it. It's so good. She's got to be fucking fuming. Oh, well, she sent a message back to say that, you know what I was trying to get at or something. It was so good. She's got to be fucking fuming. Well, she sent a message back to say, you know what I was trying to get at or something. It was so lame. It was such a lame response. But again, Twitter's a cesspit.
Starting point is 01:06:53 So what you see underneath this video is a million people posting, you know, a hunter's dick pic or whatever. You know what I mean? Because these people are awful trolls and there's no more moderation for the right wing on that. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah. All right. So thank you for joining us back on YouTube. Maybe the last week we talked about vaccination. Be sure to get vaccinated and be sure to follow all the guidelines put out by
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