Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 714: As a Non-Member of the Bar

Episode Date: September 11, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of Cognitive Dissonance is brought to you by our patrons. You fucking rock. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. recording live from gloryhole studios in chicago and beyond This is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there is no welcome mat. Today is Thursday, September the 7th and here we go buddy i really you know like there's been this this sort of media uh falling in love with fawning willis i don't know if you've seen they're fawning over fawning yeah and uh it turns like, she wrote a letter, Tom, and this was sent to us.
Starting point is 00:01:26 A love letter, Cecil? Was it a love letter? I don't know, Tom. Jim Jordan is trying to try, they're trying to, I guess, sort of put the screws to her, right? wants to do at this point is disrupt the DA that is in Fulton County from continuing on with this case to try to get Trump on RICO charges and 40 other charges. And isn't it telling the intensity of the pressure that they leverage against Fannie Willis that they are not leveraging against Jack Smith? Yeah. That they are not leveraging in the other cases. Now, granted, the other cases are federal cases. So I think they're like, all right, I don't think we can play over here. They did try to, didn't they try to get the Justice Department to come in and answer questions
Starting point is 00:02:18 to just a little bit? I think, I don't know that they were successful. I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying that they're not interfering. I just, I'm just saying like, there feels like, and this is totally a subjective call. I don't know that they were successful. I don't know. I mean, I'm not saying that they're not interfering. I'm just saying like there feels like, and this is totally a subjective call. I don't know if it's true. There feels like there's a much heavier pressure campaign.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Yeah, man. And like, is it because she's a black woman? It could be because she's a black woman. Because I think it's because she's a black woman. It might be because she's a black woman. This is my guess. It's that she's a woman that's black. She sent a letter.
Starting point is 00:02:44 And we're going to talk about this. I just got this from Sarah, our Sarah who works for us. She sent it to us maybe half an hour before we started recording. And you were on your way here, so you didn't get a chance to see it,
Starting point is 00:02:56 but this is your first time reading it. So we're going to actually read from the Hill. This is an article that came through just a little bit ago. Fonny Willis accuses Jordan of illegal intrusion into Georgia's Trump prosecution in scathing letter. And so Tom's just going to read this to everybody. Fulton County, Georgia District Attorney Fonny Willis penned a scathing letter to House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan after he asked her to turn over all documents related to her prosecution of former President Trump
Starting point is 00:03:27 and 18 others on charges related to election interference. Like, on what? Like, who the fuck are you, dude? I sent it over to me. Who the fuck are you? I order it. Get the fuck out of here. The nine-page letter.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I'd fucking photocopy my nuts and I'd send that over to him. Are you kidding me? I would leave that unread. You know what I mean? Just like... I'd fucking send Jim Jordan to spam from that point on. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:03:54 The nine-page letter, it turns, accuses Jordan of offending constitutional principles with your attempt to interfere with and obstruction this office's prosecution, suggests he buy a book on racketeering prosecution at the price offered for non-attorneys. And cast the response as voluntary as settled constitutional law clearly permits me to ignore your unjustified and illegal intrusion. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Oh, so good. That's delicious. It's so good. Then she's quoted as saying, your attempt to invoke congressional authority to intrude upon and interfere with an active criminal case in Georgia is flagrantly at odds with the Constitution, Willis wrote in a letter first reported by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution and also obtained by The Hill. Quote, there is absolutely no support for Congress purporting to second-guess or somehow supervise an ongoing Georgia criminal investigation and prosecution. That violation of Georgia's
Starting point is 00:04:54 sovereignty is offensive and will not stand. I love it. Stay in your lane, Jim. Get back in your lane, Jim. I'm sorry, but who the fuck are you? Oh, God, it's so good. It would have been great if she just responded with, who dis? Who dis? He says this
Starting point is 00:05:09 like fucking demand. She's like, new phone, who dis? New phone, who dis? That's fucking so funny because it's like, who the fuck are you, dude? You're just a guy who has a job in government. You don't get to, just because you have a job in government doesn't mean you get to dictate to all people who work in government. No, it's to, just because you have a job in government doesn't mean you get to dictate to all people who work in government.
Starting point is 00:05:25 No, it's like when fucking Mark Meadows showed up in Georgia. Yeah. Like he was in like Coffee Bean County or whatever in Georgia. You're fucking nobody. Go away. And he was like,
Starting point is 00:05:33 let me count all your receipts. And they were just like, why don't you go see the pile of sand out there? Oh, no. Go back to fucking your weird trailer where you don't live. Right. And go hang out there for a little while with fucking squee and whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:49 That's a different guy. That's a different guy, yeah. It's a different jackass. It's a different jackass. Or whatever. At another point, she suggested Jordan's letter was a bullying by members of Congress and suggested he push to investigate threats against her. members of Congress and suggested he push to investigate threats against her. Willis' letter is a response to an August
Starting point is 00:06:06 letter from Jordan sent just hours before Trump was set to report to a Fulton County jail. Jordan, who has sent similar letters to each of the prosecutorial entities investigating Trump, Oh, so you must have sent letters to... I guess so. So there we go. Asked Willis to turn over all records
Starting point is 00:06:21 related to her work and also asked if she had communicated with Special counsel Jack Smith. Eat my ass. Fuck you. No, it's like, again, it would have been fucking amazing to just ignore it. To just like. What a jackass. But it's also equally amazing to take him to fucking school.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Yeah. In another portion of the letter, Willis tells Jordan he must deal with some basic realities. Quote, a special purpose grand jury made up of everyday citizens investigated for 10 months and made recommendations to me. A further reality is that a grand jury of completely different Fulton County citizens found probable cause against the defendants named in the indictment for RICO violations and various other felonies, she wrote, using an abbreviation for the racketeer-influenced and corrupt organization statue. Quote, here's another reality you must face.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Those who wish to avoid felony charges in Fulton County, Georgia, including violations of Georgia RICO law, should not commit felonies in Fulton County, Georgia. In this jurisdiction, every person is subject to the same laws and process. It feels obvious, but yeah, it's fucking delicious. It's nice to say. Willis also takes a series of shots at Jordan's knowledge of the law, at one point breaking down the, quote, basic obligations of a prosecutor,
Starting point is 00:07:33 and in another turn, writing to provide the judiciary chairman a brief tutorial. Ooh. Oh, Enrico Law. What now? Quote, your letter makes clear that you lack a basic understanding of the law, its practice,
Starting point is 00:07:46 and the ethical obligations of attorneys generally and prosecutors specifically. She wrote, God, she was rubbing herself while she wrote this. Oh God,
Starting point is 00:07:55 it's so good. You know she was. It's so good. It's so good. You know she was. It's so good. After suggesting Jordan was misinformed
Starting point is 00:08:02 about the details included in her indictment, she pointed him to other resources. This is the best line in the whole thing. For a more thorough understanding of Georgia's RICO statute, its application, and similar laws in other states, I encourage you to read RICO state by state. As a non-member of the bar, you can purchase a copy for $249.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Oh! Oh! I actually feel like it's like collateral damage. member of the bar, you can purchase a copy for $249, end quote. I actually feel like it's like collateral damage. When somebody gets hit so hard, there's like collateral damage onto other people. You feel the burn. It's so hot. It feels like a collateral burn. So brutal. Willis also pushed back on questions from Jordan into the
Starting point is 00:08:41 timing of her investigation, noting she was slowed by resistance to subpoena compliance by current and former members of Congress and called claims that her prosecution of Trump was politically motivated could not be further from the truth. Willis capped her correspondence with a suggestion that Jordan should investigate threats to her office. Quote, as it seems you have a personal interest in the Fulton County District Attorney's Office, you should consider directing the USDOJ to investigate the racist threats that have come to my staff and me because of this investigation, she said,
Starting point is 00:09:10 attaching 10 such examples of such incidents. Quote, I'm providing these examples to give you a window into what has happened to my staff and me as I keep the promise of my oath to the United States and Georgia constitutions and do not allow myself to be bullied by
Starting point is 00:09:25 members of Congress, local elected officials, or other who believe Lady Justice should not be blind and that America has different laws for different citizens. Then she included a microphone in the envelope, which promptly fell as it was dropped. It just falls out. It's just boop.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Oh, man. That fucking, you're not a member of the bar, but you could still buy it is such a fucking burn. That is so good. That is so good. You're not a lawyer and you couldn't play one on TV. Oh, it's so good. You did not stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night. It's fucking so good.
Starting point is 00:09:57 But, you know, there's a couple of other Trump things that have sort of happened in the Trumpverse. We should sort of talk about them in tandem. Sure. Because they're all sort of related to the four cases right now. Four felony cases. That are happening.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Wouldn't it be awesome to run the table? Oh, yeah. Oh, God. Just to fucking go around the world with that fucking guy hole to hole to hole.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Just like, bang, bang, bang, motherfucker. Like, we're ending where we started. I mean, you're really bang, bang, bang, motherfucker. Like, we're ending where we started. you're only working one hole a lot,
Starting point is 00:10:29 though. Like, a lot more than any other one. This story's from The Independent. Jack Smith accused Trump of tainting jury pool
Starting point is 00:10:35 with his comments. Trump responded with a fresh truth social attack. Somebody needs to just take his phone away. You know what I mean? If anybody loved him. Yeah, if anybody, yeah, they would do it. If anybody loved him. Like, what I mean? Like somebody, if somebody loved him.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yeah. If anybody, yeah, they would do it. If anybody loved, they would do it. Like, like if I was like,
Starting point is 00:10:48 well, I'll show them. Haley would be like, grab the phone, break it over her knee. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Because like, if anybody cares about you, be like, okay, you're not, this is not the tool for you. You're not good at this. You're not smart with this.
Starting point is 00:11:01 You're just going to, but part of me wonders, now grab this story because I wanted to ask you, do you think that, I think very evidently what he's doing is trying to push the trial as much as he can out of the actual courtroom and into the court of public opinion. And I still think he thinks in his mind that that's a thing that will have an effect, right? And it will because it'll taint the jury pool. Sure. Do you think that like there will actually be consequences for this? Do you think this will work?
Starting point is 00:11:29 This is one of those things that, you know, when you see it happening, you keep thinking it's that scene from Breaking Bad when Jesse Pinkman is screaming at Walter White or about Walter White saying, he can't keep getting away with this, right? Yeah. It's the same thing, right? I feel like that all the time. He can't keep getting away with this. Normal people would not be able to do the things that he's doing. You can't do it, right? You can't do the things he's doing. You'd already be in jail. You'd either be in jail or they would have just been like, no, man, we're not, no, we're just going to try you right now. And you know what I mean? Like there would be some serious consequences
Starting point is 00:12:05 for the things that he's doing. And the things, the drumming up people and then like death threats being thrown out, they're getting threatened. These people that were in the grand jury, their addresses were posted like hours afterwards. I mean, these are- Oh, I know, egregious.
Starting point is 00:12:24 These are genuinely just terrible things that are happening. And they're happening because his followers are so rabid, they'll follow him anywhere and they'll do whatever it takes to, you know, I don't know what they're thinking.
Starting point is 00:12:35 I mean, certainly that can't help, right? I don't know. I mean, that's not helping. You're not helping, but they just think it's helping. But I keep thinking over and over, there's going to be, have to be something.
Starting point is 00:12:44 There has to be something. And I keep waiting for that moment. What I think is the most probable thing, because I don't think you can act on these little things until you have a big thing to hold on to, right? So I don't think you can act on the little things, these little threats, until you finally get a hold of him. But I think once somebody finally gets a hold of him and there's no getting out, I have a feeling that all the things he's done in the past are going to collapse, right? They're going to collapse, right?
Starting point is 00:13:11 I think that there's not going to be a way out that, you know, it's not just going to be one thing that gets him down. There's going to be one that grabs him. And this is what we saw was the New York thing was the first thing that happened. Then he lost the civil suit. Then they started coming at him with these federal suits. First, a very simple one about
Starting point is 00:13:32 documents, then a bigger one about a conspiracy and the January 6th. And now another conspiracy charge. I have a feeling that as things go on, they're going to start pointing to this stuff in the RICO case. You know what I mean? These are going to reflect on each other. And so he's just nailing his coffin. At least that's how it looks like to my non-lawyer eyes. Yeah, I just like,
Starting point is 00:13:57 I'm waiting for somebody to take his phone. Like for a court to say, you aren't allowed to use social media. And the problem there is that he's running I know. You aren't allowed to use social media. Yeah, I mean, sure. And the problem there is that he's running for president. And so he's going to make a case that, look, you can't take that away because I'm trying to run for president.
Starting point is 00:14:15 And this is like a silencing. And I think that he's really like backed the judicial system into a corner in some way, because I think that that would play, right? I think that if you were to say, and it shouldn't, right? Because it's nonsense. Like I, but I want, I want to, I want to interview for a job. Okay. Well, you know, no one gives a shit, but it would look so much like what they're trying to avoid, which is a political persecution rather than a criminal prosecution. And so I think that all these rejoinders to
Starting point is 00:14:48 stop fucking around with social media, I think he's like, well, what if I don't? What are you going to fucking do? That's the thing, though. He's done that forever. What if I don't? What if I don't show up when you ask me to show up in front of Congress? What if I don't listen to subpoenas? What if I don't? There's all this what if I don't show up when you ask me to show up in front of Congress? What if I don't listen to subpoenas? What if I don't? Like, there's all this, what if I don't? And most of the time. Most of the time, it's like, yeah, I mean, I guess we just don't do anything.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Right. And so I think he just thinks that that's how the world works when you're a rich guy. Yeah, I am. And don't get me wrong. It usually does. And he's kind of proven everybody right. It is kind of how it works. Yeah, I think that's a real takeaway from our Elon Musk episode and this episode is that there
Starting point is 00:15:30 does come a point where as much as we like to pretend otherwise, the law just doesn't apply. No, it just doesn't apply to you. You become, like banks can become too big to fail and you can become too big to prosecute. Sure. And this is really a test in a, really, because we're no longer an American democracy. We're an American plutocracy. Yeah, that's exactly it. We have absolutely descended into like gilded age plutocracy shit. You know, it's 19 teens all
Starting point is 00:15:57 over again. Sure, man. Absolutely. And so I just keep thinking like, what are we looking at here? Like, this is a real test to see if America still has any institutional balls left. Yeah. If we've got what it takes and I'm afraid of the consequences, like I get it. Like there's a pragmatic side of me, which is not driven by principle, but it's driven by like, well, I want the end result at the end of the day. I want the result. And that's the pragmatic part. And that rules most of me. Yeah. And part of me is like, I don't know that I would take his phone away either because some guy's going to show up with a fucking bomb or like, you know, the entire Republican House of Congress is going to call it an illegitimate persecution. And will that
Starting point is 00:16:39 prevent me from getting to the finish line? And I don't know, but the principle part of me, which is mostly my toe area on my body, like if you had to give it- It's funny, I'm the exact opposite. You are exactly the opposite. I'm exactly the opposite. It's like, yeah, but he's just, he's fucking wrong.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Yeah. But I'm like, yeah, but if we lose, because we were right, we lost. Yeah, I know. And I understand that, but I'm like, fuck it. Yeah, I know, man.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Like, fuck you. I know, we're like flipsy flopsies. Because fuck you, that. That's why. That's why. Cause fuck you. Cause you can't do that. And you shouldn't be able to do that. And there's a huge part, the most of me is just like, that upsets my principles. Yes. I feel like you are, you are pushing against how I have a principled stance against this and you can't push against that. And I feel like, you know, it's very easy to point to cause you can just be like, it's unlawful. Like, you are doing something unlawful. And it's like, I want to fight you.
Starting point is 00:17:31 And so, I get, but I, there's a tiny part of me that's in the back that's like, but no, what happens? And I'm like, shut the fuck up. So, I have a tiny, tiny pragmatic part of me that I scream at all the time to shut the fuck up you know but I get it I get it I do get it
Starting point is 00:17:49 I know there's a part of me that gets it but there's a part of me that just can't stop I just can't quit I'm like no like that is what
Starting point is 00:17:56 that is what the most important thing is you know is that he's getting away with it and he keeps getting away with it and that's wrong
Starting point is 00:18:01 and the thing is like the pragmatic the pragmatic part of me also sees how dangerous it is to let principles go by in order to achieve results.
Starting point is 00:18:13 So I'm so torn on this. Yeah, it's tough. And part of me is like, yeah, but I mean at the end of the day it's all just true social. It's not like he's on X or whatever. He is though. He came back to X.
Starting point is 00:18:27 That's right. He came back to X. God, he was away from it for so long he changed the name. How did he know how to log in? How did he even get back? They've turned me into one of them. I am one of them. That's why you need me. I am one of them. That's why you need me.
Starting point is 00:18:47 I am your conduit. I am your bridge. Ich bin ein nerd. Welcome aboard. Alright, this story's from CNN Politics. mar-a-lago it workers struck cooperation agreement with special counsel his former lawyer says we talked a little bit about this last week um but now this is a full flip this is a full yeah so before the guy's like you
Starting point is 00:19:21 know i'm gonna get my own attorney and I maybe I will have some conversations and now he's like alright so here's what I know let me write some things down and get some pictures for you it's flip flip flipadelphia
Starting point is 00:19:32 up in this pig and he's the he's the IT guy yeah I think that's a big deal yeah you don't I think that's a big deal yeah you don't want to mess
Starting point is 00:19:40 with the head of IT if I learn anything from reading wool you don't want to mess with the head of IT he's shooting gas and he's like to mess with the head of IT. If I learn anything from reading wool, you don't want to mess with the head of IT. Are you shooting gas? I'd love to see fucking Mar-a-Lago
Starting point is 00:19:50 get doused with gas from fucking Silo. Let me tell you. It'd be amazing. Just like one guy, like no more. No, we're done. Here's my principled stance.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I got a big red button. I've always wanted to press it. Oh, man. No, but seriously, it's a good thing. It's one of those. And there is rumors now that some of these other people, there's grumblings that some of those other people may flip. There's been rumors coming out that one of these people
Starting point is 00:20:20 in the Georgia case may flip. And so there's rumors that are happening and that are in the rumor mill. You. And so there's rumors that are happening and that are in the rumor mill. You don't know yet. You don't know. But there can be in a couple of these different cases. And another thing that we don't even have a story for,
Starting point is 00:20:34 but it was all over the news, was the leader of the Proud Boys got an immense sentence. 22 years. 22 years. And they released today or yesterday, I saw that they had asked all these Proud Boy people to plea. They had said, we'll give you a plea deal. And the plea deals were sweetheart deals.
Starting point is 00:20:53 They were going to get out in six or seven years, all of them. They were sweetheart deals. And they all refused them. And they all got way more time. And they're all getting way more hammer drops. Way more time. They all got way more time. I mean, you know, there's a certain part of you
Starting point is 00:21:05 that knows you fucked up. I don't know who was fucking advising them, but someone should have said, no, bro, they literally got you like fucking humping Nancy Pelosi's desk. Like, we need to plea this down as best we can.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Yeah. Some of these early people, they got good lawyers because all those early pleas were for short amounts of two. Remember us complaining about it? But, you know, I think a lot of those early
Starting point is 00:21:29 prosecutions were, those guys were not proud boys. Those were the trespassers. Those were the trespassers. Those were like random, like randos. They were not part of an organized attempt to like,
Starting point is 00:21:42 and they weren't charged with seditious conspiracy either. But genuinely, man, you're looking at getting with seditious conspiracy either. But genuinely, man, you're looking at getting out seditious conspiracy, man. There was like seven years. And that's seven years, probably halftime or whatever,
Starting point is 00:21:53 because you get like time and time again or whatever. If you do like good behavior, if you're a nice person or whatever. If you snuggle the guards. If you like, yeah, if you like, I don't know, share your commissary Cheetos
Starting point is 00:22:03 or whatever it is. But like genuinely, they would get out way early. You get two days off for every no shaking you do. Well, maybe they get the Epstein deal where they get to go home on fucking weekends or whatever. But in any case, you know what I mean? These people were, there was an opportunity for them to get a thing
Starting point is 00:22:19 that was way less than what they actually got. And this guy, that dude got fucking hammered. 22 years, good. And he said, that dude got fucking hammered. 22 years? Good. And he said, like, I did read that same story. And he said something like, you know, please don't take away my 40s from me. So he's our age. Like, that's a guy who's going to, like, if he walks out of jail at all, he's going to walk out of jail a different, changed, and ruined man.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Yeah, man. I mean, that's it. And like, I am not the biggest, like, throw away the key, but like, you know, lock him up and throw away the fucking key. Because like, these are people that attempted to destroy American democracy. They genuinely attempted a coup. They genuinely attempted. I mean, these people had a plan. Yeah. And there's, it's not like he wasn't
Starting point is 00:23:00 guilty. Yeah. Like, it's a thousand percent. This is not a case where you're like, well, it really is a headscarf. I don't know. I don't know about this guy. There's room. No, there's no room. Who knows? A hundred percent. Yeah. But I also want to say like with, with regards to the it guy flipping, you know, I I'm just prognosticating. I don't know anything, but I think as the pressure continues to mount it, guy flips one other flips, and everybody else starts thinking, it's a fucking domino effect. It's one of those go boards where you flip a thing
Starting point is 00:23:28 and then you start, or Othello or whatever, where there's just all the flipping back and forth. You're going to be flipping back and forth because at a certain point, you feel like there's protection in a group, right? I'm protected because nobody's talking. Well, now once people start talking,
Starting point is 00:23:42 you start looking around the room and saying, well, if he's talking, what is he saying? Yeah. Is he going to be saying something about me? I didn't do anything wrong. I'm just listening to this jackass back here. Fuck that. Hey, Jack Smith,
Starting point is 00:23:53 can I be a person who doesn't get in trouble too? And I think like at the end of the day, being perfectly blunt, like these guys are a bunch of pussies. Yeah. And they don't have any cojones in them to go to jail for someone. And what they're going to do,
Starting point is 00:24:04 I think a lot of them were really like playing a game of chicken with the Department of Justice and now they're caught, right? And then they get arrested and they're like, okay, well, fuck, I didn't really think that was going to happen. So what next? And as the case becomes more real,
Starting point is 00:24:21 as it solidifies, as other witnesses start to pop, they're going to be like, holy shit, man, I'm a soft motherfucker. Yeah. Like, and I'll tell you, like, as Tom Curry, I'm soft. I'm a soft motherfucker. Like, I will flip on. Yeah, I'll flip on my kids. Are you kidding me? Like, they even do anything. I'll be like, I don't fucking care. Throw Eamon in jail. I'll send my cat to jail. Are you kidding me? Kitty prison. I'm not going to prison. Are you kidding? Another thing to also consider is that they were using Trump's attorney.
Starting point is 00:24:49 So there was an attorney that was sort of provided to them by Trump that he clearly wasn't paying. And that, you know, like they came and they told them to lie and do some shit. And then they eventually got told by Jack Smith somehow, you know, maybe when their lawyer wasn't there or whatever, that, you know, we know you're lying.
Starting point is 00:25:06 You're probably making a huge mistake if you listen to this lawyer. And they're like, maybe I don't want to listen to the lawyer. And then they just flip. And I think, I think there's somebody in their ear whispering these things and telling them what to do. And then finally they get away from it a little and then they change. And I think that's going to
Starting point is 00:25:22 be, I really want to see what happens in the Georgia case when this stuff starts falling. I think that's going to be, I really want to see what happens in the Georgia case when this stuff starts falling. Man, it's going to be exciting. I think some of these people, you know, we were talking about it before, but these are just,
Starting point is 00:25:32 this is just a person who has a family. Yeah. And they're not a, they probably just signed something thinking, you know, yes, the election was stolen. Maybe they didn't believe it, whatever it was. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:42 But at a certain point, they did something that caused fraud and now they're in trouble and they didn't think that was whatever it was. But at a certain point, they did something that caused fraud and now they're in trouble and they didn't think that was going to get this far. And so, and I'm not, and don't get me wrong, like I have no sympathy for them. Don't misunderstand this for sympathy. What I'm saying is, is that they are now a deer in the headlights. They don't realize, these aren't people who set out to be criminals. They are, they're not hardened people. These aren't people who like thought to cheat the system They are, they're not hardened people. These aren't people who like, thought to cheat the system.
Starting point is 00:26:07 They didn't, they don't have enough brains to do that. What they did was listen to people and thought that they were doing the right thing. And they weren't like trying to build a political empire off of this activity. Like I, and I, part of me is like, man,
Starting point is 00:26:22 it takes one Meadows or one Giuliani. Just one big one person. If one of those guys flips. Yeah. All the rest of them. They all flip. Yeah, it could be Giuliani. It could be any.
Starting point is 00:26:33 It won't be Giuliani, but it could be anybody else. I kind of think he might flip. I don't know. Maybe. Who do you want to see flip? Who do I want to see flip? I kind of want them all to go to prison, Tom. I don't want them to Flip.
Starting point is 00:26:47 If I had to, I would choose Giuliani, and here's why. The reason why I would choose Giuliani is because of the massive vicissitude of his career, sort of the back and forth that his career has had, where
Starting point is 00:27:03 yeah, he's been a terrible person, but he's had highs and lows. And this is another just crazy turn in his career. You go from four seasons total landscaping to this. The best thing that ever happened. To this. I want it to be Giuliani because he's already ruined. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:22 So like, if Giuliani goes to prison, that's hilarious and he deserves it, right? And I hope every day is worse than the day before. Sure, yeah. Me too. But it's also like if he flips and then the rest of these chuckleheads, or a good chunk of them, but at least the big orange
Starting point is 00:27:38 chucklehead, if he fucking goes to jail because Giuliani flipped, Giuliani is A, still ruined. He's still Rudy Giuliani. He wakes up every day. He's still Rudy Giuliani flipped. Giuliani is A, still ruined. Yeah. And he's still Rudy Giuliani. He wakes up every day. He's still Rudy Giuliani. He's still trapped in the prison of his own self. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:51 Rudy Giuliani. Yeah. Every day. Like, if Giuliani flips, it's not like he's so recognizable. He'll be hated by the right. He's already hated by the left. There'll be no place. We're going to welcome him with open arms. There'll be nowhere he can go that he is not. He's already going by the left. There'll be no place There'll be nowhere
Starting point is 00:28:05 he can go that he is not he's already he's going to be disbarred. Yeah. He's broke. Yeah. Like I would be delicious.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Fucking flip. Yeah, I don't know what he would do. I mean, write another book, I guess. Yeah. Write a book.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I would buy that book. I would consider buying that book. I know you would. I would get it from the library. Somebody already bought it. I just borrowed it. I would get it from the library. Somebody already bought it. I just borrowed it. So I don't have to
Starting point is 00:28:27 pay for it. Sasha, what the fuck are you doing here? This story comes from the AP. A lawsuit seeks to bar Trump from the primary in Colorado, citing Constitution's insurrection clause. And it's Republicans bringing it. Yeah, which is Republicans. Not nothing. And this
Starting point is 00:28:43 also reminds me of when I was watching the Republican primary. There were people who were cheering when people, when somebody called Trump a traitor or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:52 There were people who were booing, but there were definitely people cheering. And I don't think that's something we heard last time. No, no, no. It was not in the, when he was debating Biden
Starting point is 00:28:59 or whatever, there was never any of that. Solidarity. Solid, full on. So I don't feel like, I feel like that's a definite, you know, win to change. But another thing to mention too, is it's not just Colorado. New Hampshire is also trying to do something like this. A couple other states
Starting point is 00:29:14 are trying to do this. I don't think I've seen any like major red states. So it doesn't really matter. You know what I mean? Like in the states that he was going to lose already, who cares? But I think like, you know, cause like what happens if he's off the books in New York, Illinois, California, and let's say Colorado? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing that wasn't already going to happen. Because even if you can't vote for him, who cares?
Starting point is 00:29:37 You're just going to, like they're going to vote for the Democrat anyway. Biden's going to get whatever. So it doesn't matter. And then you're just like, okay, well then it literally did nothing. Biden's going to get whatever, so it doesn't matter. And then you're just like, okay, well, then it literally did nothing. It's got to be big enough to get over to other states that are purple states. I'm not saying the red states were adopted. No, no, no, I know what you mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:52 But I think if a purple state, something that could be purple, that's a big deal. Yeah, I agree. I also just think that there's something to be said for disgracing him the maximal amount. Yeah, sure. Yeah. No, that's, Oh, absolutely. I agree. Sure. Like, even if it ends up, this is me on principle. Yeah. No, like this. And I recognize that, but like, even if it has no practical effect, I still want to see all the blue States do it. Yeah. I still want to see him. I want to be, I want people because, you know, the thing is like, even in blue states,
Starting point is 00:30:25 there's a lot of red people and I want them to be upset. I want them to be angry personally. What you can do. I want them to show up to the polls. The best part though. But,
Starting point is 00:30:35 but Owen, I want them to not show up to the polls and not vote Republican downline. They won't vote down vote either. Yeah, it would be, it would be a huge blue wave
Starting point is 00:30:41 in all those places because there wouldn't be anybody. In all the other elections. That's a great way. That's a great, and that's very pragmatic, right? That's a very pragmatic thing. But I also too, you know, principle wise, it would be fun to see that score at the end because they still count the popular vote across all the states. They do, yeah. So it would be fun to see him lose by 20 million. Oh, yeah. Even if he's, you know, the electoral race is still close. He could lose by 20, 30 Oh, yeah. Even if he's, you know, the electoral race is still close.
Starting point is 00:31:06 He could lose by 20, 30, 40 million. Yeah. Some immense amount because I remember there was somebody who did the calculations. You could win, you know, it was some crazy amount, like 31% of the vote can get you-
Starting point is 00:31:19 Get you elected. Get you elected. You can win 31%- That's insane. And still get elected through the electoral college. That's a broken system. Don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure it was that low. It was really low. It might've even been lower, but it was a very broken system. I mean, it was very broken where you just, you saw it and you're like, come on, 30% of people,
Starting point is 00:31:39 that doesn't even make any sense. Look, if it's 49%, we've got a problem. I agree. I agree. We shouldn't have this stupid electoral system anyways. The electoral system is the dumbest thing ever. It's the dumbest thing in the world. And I know that people in Wyoming are going to be like, but I don't matter. You don't matter. Well, you do. Move somewhere that matters. Yeah, you do. You matter. You just matter as
Starting point is 00:31:59 much as your population matters. That's right. You matter as a unit of one. Yeah, you matter. Everybody in this country matters as a single unit of one. Yeah, you matter as much as you matter. You matter. And so it actually makes you matter more in some ways. Now, it makes me matter more in my state. Sure. Because my state has a bad ratio when it comes to number of voters to electoral votes. Yes, it does. And so does like New York and California and places with large populations. We don't get anywhere near enough electoral votes. Now, don't get me
Starting point is 00:32:30 wrong, in Wyoming or Idaho or all the smaller states where there's lower population, you are going to lose some of your power in that sense. Right. But you're going to be equalizing with everybody else across the country. And that's the thing, is they don't want to be equal. Well, yeah. If that's the case, then fuck you. But like, well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:45 Republicans have never wanted to create a system that equalizes. They've wanted to create a system that disproportionately advantages Republicans. Yeah. And they've proved that
Starting point is 00:32:52 over and over and over again. They're trying to, you know, they're trying everything they can. We talked about this a couple of weeks ago. They're trying everything they can to try to cheat every system.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Right? That impeachment we were talking about a couple weeks ago, Supreme Court in Wisconsin, that's going to start going through. It looks like they're really trying to do that. They might do this. They're probably going to do it. Which is unbelievable. They're going to impeach somebody before she's even heard a single case. We're also getting to a place where impeachment is being weaponized. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:27 And not being, it's like impeachment should be this, like, incredibly rare nuclear option held out only for the most egregious of offenses. And now it's like, I mean, it's not impeachment, but in North Carolina, where, like, they kick those states,
Starting point is 00:33:43 the state lawmakers out. They're just like, yeah, we just, I know you were elected like an hour ago, but in North Carolina, they kick those state lawmakers out. They're just like, yeah, I know you were elected like an hour ago, but we fired you. You're just fired. I know that people duly elected a Wisconsin Supreme Court justice, but we impeached you. And then what happens when she gets impeached, if it happens, is they'll have to do another election.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And then what? Don't they get to pick an appointment? I thought they had to do another election. Oh, okay? Don't they get to pick an appointment? I thought they had to do another election. Oh, okay. I thought I had read, and I could be wrong, but I think I do remember reading that, like, part of what's insane is that they'll do another election. Certainly tempers will flare.
Starting point is 00:34:16 The people who voted for the lady that just got impeached will almost certainly come out and vote in again another liberal justice. And what will they do? Impeach that one? And just constantly keep the court from being able to act, like basically paralyze the court.
Starting point is 00:34:33 We need help. We need so much help. We need help. The trash is broken. This is a trash fire. This is what I used to think was a pretty intelligent system is just a joke yeah i was you know one of the stories we should cover and talk about now when we're talking about jokes let's talk about
Starting point is 00:34:51 this tuberville story tom oh my god because cecil yeah is it tuberville or tuberville i always call them tuberville because it's like a potato but you're right it's tuberville is am i right i don't know i don't know we this before. I don't remember what we landed on. It's Tuber, Tuber, Tuber. So this Tommy Tuber Tuberville is trying to stop promotions in the armed forces. And he can because all you need to do is just say you won't do it
Starting point is 00:35:14 and make the Congress do the actual roll call. So how he does this, I want to read this to you because I found this today. I found it just fascinating. And I just, I mean like- Fascinating in its dysfunction. Fascinating in that I want to punch everybody in government at the same time.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I was so mad because it just feels like it's made to be a dysfunctional system, right? It feels like that's what it's made for. So in the Senate, one senator can hold up nominations or legislation, even if the other 99 want to move it forward. Generally, leaders in the majority party get around this by holding a series of votes to move a measure and dispense of the hold. It just takes some additional time on the Senate floor.
Starting point is 00:35:55 But Tuber Tuberville's blockade is unique because there are hundreds of military nominations and promotions. And the Democratic leaders would have to hold roll call votes on every single one of them to get around the hold. It's a decades-long tradition for the Senate to group the military promotions together and approve them by a voice vote, avoiding lengthy roll calls. So Tuber Tuberville has put the Senate in a bind.
Starting point is 00:36:19 The chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Senator Jack Reed, Democrat of Rhode Island, said this week that voting on more than 260 nominations through the regular procedure would take 27 days with the Senate working around the clock or 84 days if the Senate works eight hours a day to make those promotions. That's how fucking stupid that system is. You could have one fucking crybaby, and that will stop the entire fucking screeches to a halt. Yeah, and like one of the reasons,
Starting point is 00:36:50 because when I first read this, I was like, I mean, how important is it somebody gets promoted, you know? But it's really important. It's actually really vitally important because people are always leaving the military, right? So some guy has some command post. He's got a job in the military, and his fucking time in the military is up, and he leaves, and we got to move somebody else up into that chain, up that chain of command to, like, be in charge of the thing. Well, we can't
Starting point is 00:37:18 promote that fucking guy. So instead, you have people that are acting commanders of this or acting whatevers of that, and that's not as good good that's not the way that we're supposed to do any of this work and also like the more you do that the more those people are going to be like look i didn't get promoted i'm not getting paid i'm not getting the extra leaving maybe i'm not going to re-up maybe i'm going to take my my next retirement i what the fuck am I going to do? It creates a series of dominoes that most military analysts, including the head of the Navy, is like, look, this is making us less safe. You're literally making us less safe. You're fucking with national security. And the thing is, Cecil, the reason he's doing this is abortion shit. And his reasoning is that
Starting point is 00:38:04 they're allowing for reimbursement to travel across state lines. Well, you're the one who wants states' rights. Well, what's the big deal? And what's especially fucked about this is that if you're in the military, if you're in the military, you don't get to decide where you're stationed.
Starting point is 00:38:19 So I sign up for the military, and then I end up getting pregnant. Very unlikely, but you know. It could happen. It's No, it could happen. It's 2023. It could happen. Who knows? A food baby. You know,
Starting point is 00:38:29 it happened to Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's true. It happened. That's a real story. It's a documentary. That is true. Documentary. That's true. So like,
Starting point is 00:38:34 you end up, and then you get. What was that movie? What is that movie? Junior. Junior. Junior. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Junior. All right. God, I'm old. All right. So that, you probably get that on your VHS. But like- I was going to say Cuado.
Starting point is 00:38:48 That's a different movie with a different baby. Yeah, right? Cuado is a different one. Anyway, go ahead. So then you get like stationed in fucking like Fort Bragg in Texas or something. Oh, well, I can't get a fucking abortion. Oh, well, that's not my fault. I didn't choose to live in fucking Texas.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Yeah, man. I got my ass sent to fucking Texas because I decided to serve my country. And then you decide to come to Illinois to get the thing and you want to get reimbursed. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And that's it. More so. Okay. And so the military is like, all right, look, since you don't have control over, we don't give you autonomy over where you're at physically,
Starting point is 00:39:18 we're not going to like withhold medical care from you if we've only made that medical care available in select stores, you know? And aren't they only to, you know, the more you delay somebody as a military person from where they're at till they get on leave to go do it, aren't you just waiting for that baby to grow
Starting point is 00:39:36 and then you're taking it out of them? So aren't you in some way enforcing later term abortions that way? Well, you're either enforcing later term abortions or like, let's be blunt. If you're the military, you want all your pregnant service members to get abortions. Yes. Like it's not, if you're in like,
Starting point is 00:39:51 if you're the military, you're not like, Oh goody, you got pregnant. Yeah. Totes sweet. Yeah. Like you're like,
Starting point is 00:39:55 you want all of like, just being blunt, like you want them all to get an abortion. Yep. It is not an ideal circumstance. If somebody is in the military and they're pregnant, you got to wear that less baby while they're pregnant you got to wear that less baby while you're you got a lot because it may interfere with whatever their job job
Starting point is 00:40:11 shooting yeah like i mean you know who knows what their job is like they might have a job where they can do it you know babies can sleep in a tank right yeah just fucking like a bunch of pregnant ladies in a submarine. Baby. Kadoosh. You got to hang that baby on board sign on the back of your tank. You're in a battle. They're like, oh, no, leave this one alone. Leave this one alone.
Starting point is 00:40:34 There's a baby on board. Well, the other one says student driver. What do we do? Who do we shoot? That would be hilarious if there was a baby on board in a tank. Super good. You're the ones escaped for sucking my dick what sister it comes from lgbtq nation hate pastor claims androgynous nicknames turn kids trans and are the work of the devil by the way guys the nicknames he's referring to is stuff like sam it's like the biblical names yeah it's just
Starting point is 00:41:02 like like calling some i've got I've got a niece, Samantha. Nobody's ever called her Samantha. She's Sam. That's it. She's Sam. Like she's been Sam forever. Just because you have a name that could mean both genders doesn't mean you either identify as both genders.
Starting point is 00:41:18 It just means it's a non-gender specific name like Terry. Terry could be a guy or a girl. It doesn't matter. This pastor is like freaking out because the name guy or a girl. It doesn't matter. This pastor is like freaking out because the name isn't like, your name isn't John. Your name isn't Brenda. Everyone's name should be penis or vagina.
Starting point is 00:41:34 That's it. Well, let's listen to this guy. Here we go. I have taken enough homosexual young people and transgender deliverance that nobody would work with. And I worked with them for hours. And let me tell you what I found out.
Starting point is 00:41:54 The name that God gave them, the devil changed and shortened their name. Okay, pause it. Listen to that fucking audience. I kind of wonder, do you wonder that if they're not even listening, they're maybe like playing Candy Crush, but when he paused, they're supposed to say,
Starting point is 00:42:13 oh, and so they're just conditioned to say, because that is not a revelation in any way. Whoa. Or they're just very, very easily amused. Cecil, I have two kids. I fucking named those kids. Am I still, should I do it in every pause or no? Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:34 The devil or God did not like get involved in the naming of my kids. God doesn't give your kid a name. God's like dropping names in the hat. He's like putting names in there. And you're like, you're like, Tony?
Starting point is 00:42:47 I never, nobody, nobody, between the two of us, dear, neither of us wanted Tony. Where did Tony come from? It came from me.
Starting point is 00:42:57 He just fucking incinerates the cap and all the shit's in there. Did I ever tell you a story of why my name is, so one of the things that my dad did, my dad wanted a a story of why my name is... So, one of the things that my dad did, my dad wanted a name. He wanted my name to be Nick.
Starting point is 00:43:10 He wanted my name to be Dominic or Nicholas. I don't remember. And my mom didn't. And so, he said, well, go ahead and put names in a cap
Starting point is 00:43:18 and then we'll pull from the cap. And my mom put all the names she wanted. So, she just... That's fucking great. And she told me like when I she wanted. So she just, and she told me like when I was 11, she was like, yeah, you could have been Nick,
Starting point is 00:43:31 but we never tried that. Like, wait, like evidently it just, they just pulled it. She never even put him in there. I'll pull a Nick out of the hat when it's not a practice. It's not a practice. I could have been a Nick, Tom.
Starting point is 00:43:41 I could have been Nick. Nick, that is a great story. Look, here's the thing. And this is this a Nick, Tom. It could have been Nick. Nick, that is a great story. Look, here's the thing. And this is like, whatever. I don't care. Like, women get to pick the name. They're growing the person. Is that how it works?
Starting point is 00:43:55 I feel like, I know, like, send me your email. I don't want you. I'm not going to read your email. But like, look, I have some say, right? In the sense that I'd be like, here's a general preference. You can't be like Elon Musk kid, like a fucking symbol. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Right. Yeah. Like you get a, you get a veto. I think you could have a veto. You get a veto. I think you have a veto. No,
Starting point is 00:44:12 not a veto. Veto is not a good name. That's not a good name. You don't want to go with veto. Don't put that one in the hat. That's a terrible one. If you want them to break legs for a living for the mafia, it's veto.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Maybe a veto. That's it. Maybe. But like, yeah, like I feel like if like, I feel like the woman who's like, yeah, I'm actually growing this
Starting point is 00:44:27 and I'm going to squeeze it out of my vagina and I'm not naming him Nick. I'd be like, that's actually an excellent, what's your rebuttal to that? What is your rebuttal? Actually, we're equals, honey.
Starting point is 00:44:36 No, you're not. Not here, you're not. Not here. In this one moment, it's like, you know what? Actually, I just had a burrito.
Starting point is 00:44:44 You had a baby. So that's a big difference. It's a really big difference. Sam. Son of Sam? Is not a specific gender name. Okay, that's fair. I don't think that's a revelation either. What is with the audience?
Starting point is 00:45:00 It's not a revelation, but okay. They're setting our children up. Who? With the names. You named. That can be. You picked it. Like who?
Starting point is 00:45:11 Like who's doing it? All right. Like it's not like a ninja comes in and signs the birth certificate and then throws a smoke bomb on the ground. I picked a name and it was Samuel, which is a biblical fucking name. I know, right? Well, now we're going to call him Sam. Who? Just then don't.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Then don't. Then don't. Like you have every power to not do that. Just don't do it. Yeah. Weirdo. You're fucking, like this is a weird hill to die on. This is a very, very weird hill.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I love that they, I love that they are so, they're just such a weak group of people that they feel like everything is out of their control. Yeah. Like nothing is in their control. Nothing that happens in the world is my fault at all. Nothing in the world that it's all, and you have to, I think, think that if you believe in a God as like-
Starting point is 00:46:02 An interventionist. Yeah, like a buy the seat of your pants God, right? Like God just made the roller coaster and I'm just a buy the seat of your pants, God. Right. Like God just made the roller coaster and I'm just on it. Right. That's basically what they think. And so I think they kind of have to be there a little bit, but genuinely it just feels, it feels so weak, like such a weak mindset to be like, man, we can't do anything. We, we, you know, we, we can't even name our kids. And you look around the room and think you, but you all named your kids.
Starting point is 00:46:27 I mean, I guess they just want to, I think, are they trying to seed responsibility in some way here? Is that what it feels? Is that. I think they're trying to place blame on a culture. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Here. I think that that's what they're trying to do. The same. Like, oh, you're the parent's pick Samuel. Yeah. And society is calling him Sam.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Yeah. And so that's training him to be confused about who he is. It's a blame thing. But it's like, do you guys have so little understanding about how any of this works? Any of it work? Have you not met more Sams, just by the numbers, more Sams, male or female, that are straight, cis Sams. Sure. Most people are cis and straight. Sure.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Just by the numbers. Just by the numbers. So most Sams that you meet are going to be cis and straight. Yeah. So it's not like it works every time. Look, if it was every time, if you were like,
Starting point is 00:47:20 you know what the wackiest thing is? Have you guys noticed that literally 100% of the time, you call what the wackiest thing is? Have you guys noticed that literally 100% of the time you call everybody in a huddle? Like, hold on. Come here, guys. I just want you to look at this data. Do you see this spreadsheet?
Starting point is 00:47:35 I sorted it by name. Pay attention. What the fuck? To the highlighted ones. Right. I mean, I don't know if anyone's ever put two and two together here.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Look, I would be like, all right, you maybe have something. And I think genuinely, you're making a joke, but you are also onto something too, which is, and we talked about this, I think with Thomas, maybe several weeks ago, where they blow up something so big that is so small, right? This is a tiny, tiny segment of the population that's trans. It's a tiny, tiny segment of the population that's gay. Yeah. That is so small, right? This is a tiny, tiny segment of the population that's trans. It's a tiny, tiny population segment of the population that's gay. Right. Or that is non-binary. It's tiny. These are not, this is not your, the most of
Starting point is 00:48:16 the people, like you said, are cis and straight. Right. And so they're trying to make it seem like this is an epidemic. There's this huge, but what is really happening is, is that more and more people are feeling comfortable and not having to hide in the closet. That's right.
Starting point is 00:48:32 And so maybe those numbers may go up a little in the sense that less people are in the closet, but that's just because our methodology on discovering those people has been flawed for so long. That's all it is. It's like the autism explosion. Exactly like the autism explosion. It's like, before we had a label
Starting point is 00:48:50 called autism, there weren't any autistic people. Yeah. But there were still, but there were people who exhibited certain characteristics that looking back, you would say, okay, that strongly leads me to believe that you'd be somewhere on the spectrum, right? But like, it's not like before you invent the word for something,
Starting point is 00:49:06 that thing doesn't exist, except for the problem is that these people believe in a magical world where words are incantations. Yeah. Where naming something has power. Like literal magic power. These are numerology nuts, you know? Like these are like
Starting point is 00:49:21 pouring through and finding secret codes in fucking first Thessalonians and whatever. Like's a it's a magical worldview so i guess like in that world you'd be like oh yeah well names have power boy speak the name and you know yeah i know like all that fucking nonsense but you're like yeah name is something like two parents are like yeah that one works you know like you try it out you're like what yeah, name is something like two parents are like, yeah, that one works. You know? Like, you try it out. You're like, what if I yell it like first name, middle name, last name,
Starting point is 00:49:51 because I'm angry. You know, you try it out a little bit. See how it feels. You go just the tip. Do you yell the middle name with your kids? No, no, no. The thing is, like, I just don't yell at my kids. Like, they just don't need to be yelled at. That feels wrong to me.
Starting point is 00:50:05 I don't. Just don't yell at them kids. Like, they just don't need to be yelled at. That feels wrong to me. I don't... I think... Just don't yell at them. Maybe go to parenting class. I'll give that a shot. Because I... They just don't need it. I don't know that that's how you do it.
Starting point is 00:50:13 I'm just saying, as a person who's never impregnated someone and has no experience as a parent, I think you're doing it wrong. Probably. I just... I don't know. That can be not gender specific.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Samantha. Whoa. Samuel. Whoa. Samson. And the spirits in school are working to confuse their minds at who they are
Starting point is 00:50:37 and you've already given them the name that would make transitioning easy. Oh. Yes. I thought he was going to say a slur and then he didn't. I also, I know, right?
Starting point is 00:50:48 Here's the last thing that he said that makes me laugh and I wanted to talk about this a little bit too. He's saying that like giving somebody a name that can like play in either direction gender wise
Starting point is 00:50:57 is going to be the thing that makes transitioning easy. As if like, you're like, all right, so here's the deal. I got to come out to my entire family and I've got to, you're like, all right, so here's the deal. I got to come out to my entire family. And I've got to, you know, bind my breasts.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yeah, no. And I've got to like tuck my junk. Thank God. But what? Thank God. Whoa, you really made that naming part. Wow. That name.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Wow. This has just been the easiest process of my life. You know, I'm glad there were no barriers in the way of this. That one, that would have been it. Look, if I had to, I got to do
Starting point is 00:51:28 all this other shit. Yeah, but thank God the name was taken care of early on. That was the toughie. Dad, thank God mom
Starting point is 00:51:35 took all the name stuff out of there. All right, here's, you still call me Sam. Why are you crying? Why are you crying so much? Turns out Nick
Starting point is 00:51:43 is gender, not gender specific too, so. Jesus Christ. You could be a guy or a girl, Nick, so. You can be a star girl or anything. Are you fucking kidding me? You could be a non-binary or anything. Who gives a shit? Also, you could just like, I could just tomorrow
Starting point is 00:51:58 be like, yeah, my name is fucking Phil. Yeah, I know. I can pick a different name. I know. You can literally just pick a different name. You can. I know this for truth. Yeah, I know you a different name. I know. You can literally just pick a different name. You can. I know this for true. Yeah, I know you do, Cecil. Today, we'll learn about Christopher Columbus, the heroic explorer who discovered America and proved the Earth was round.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Actually, Columbus was an incompetent buffoon who never even set foot in America. Sister comes from LGBTQ Nation. Oklahoma Department of Education announces partnership with right-wing propaganda group. The first thing I want to talk about is the picture. Can we just look at the picture? I resent his haircut.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Hold on, the picture at the top. Oh, you're looking at this one. This is Oklahoma Superintendent of Public Schools, Ryan Walters. I resent his haircut because it is distressingly similar to my own. And I don't appreciate that. I don't appreciate that. He looks like a pomade guy. He does look like a pomade guy, but he's got the hard part.
Starting point is 00:52:56 The hard part. It's cut in. It is cut in. I'm going to have to make changes. I can't look like that guy. Yeah, you're right. You can't look like that guy. I can't look like that guy. I want to show you the You can't look like that guy. I can't look like...
Starting point is 00:53:05 I want to show you the picture of Christopher Columbus, though. Can we... Let's see. Is this actually... Because I want to play this if this is actually a video. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:53:15 Oh, my God. Is this a player? Oh, it's not a video. Oh, we've got to find it. No, Tom, it's the best because fucking Columbus... It's better than being killed. Columbus at a point is just like,
Starting point is 00:53:24 well, we'll take them as slaves because it's better than being killed. Columbus at a point is just like, well, we'll take them as slaves because it's better than being killed, right, kids? It's the fucking craziest shit you've ever seen. I'm not even kidding. Wait a minute. There's a blue link of the Joe My God link. Can you click it? Now I have to see this.
Starting point is 00:53:37 The Department of Education just approved the use of PragerU materials in public school classrooms. So this is in Florida. Among the narrators, Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. Republicans sit here and say, well, Democrats did this, but you're doing the same thing. Rady is not alone in her criticism. Many people point to videos on the Prager You website that they say are meant to indoctrinate children. For example, this video features two kids who go back in time to talk with Christopher Columbus. Columbus suggests that he was justified in his violence against Native Americans. Being taken as a slave is better than
Starting point is 00:54:09 being killed, no? You're from 500 years in the future? How can you come here to the 15th century and judge me by your standards from the 21st century? Jesus fucking Christ. fucking Christ. Cecil! It's better than being killed by you! By you! Look, here's the deal. Obviously, I'm a good guy because
Starting point is 00:54:33 I kidnapped you and I forced you to work for me, but I could have killed you. I could have killed you. And I love the hand waving over the genocide. They're just hand waving over the genocide. Right. They're just hand waving over the genocide so that they can talk about slavery,
Starting point is 00:54:49 how that's better. Yeah. I mean, really, genuinely, these PragerU things are a fucking nightmare. They are. They're a fucking nightmare and they're 100% indoctrination and they are totally agenda driven.
Starting point is 00:55:02 The things that they accuse the left of all the time of being agenda- Oh, look, you're just doing that because of the LGBTQ plus agenda, blah, blah, blah. They say that all the time, right? All the time. And all it is is a book that exists. It's part of the secular atheist agenda. Right, so there'll be a book in a fucking library somewhere. Yeah, that is optional to check out.
Starting point is 00:55:20 It's not like the teacher makes everybody sit down and wrap themselves in the LGBTQ flag. And then she reads it to them with a rainbow light flashing in the room or whatever. She's not doing it. None of that. It's in a fucking library somewhere that they can go access it if they want to, if they choose to. This stuff is like, we're going to teach this in class. This is going to be part of the curriculum. is like, we're going to teach this in class. This is going to be part of the curriculum. This is us indoctrinating your kids in this, in our agenda driven education.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Yeah. This is happening now in Florida and Oklahoma. Remember Florida is the same state that was like, oh, we can't have any CRT related material. We're going to, we're going to change AP courses for African American history and basically like delegitimize advanced placement courses in African American history because they have an agenda. Like there's no pretending. PragerU is not a U.
Starting point is 00:56:18 It's just Dennis Prager. When his weird, enormous like fucking fetish program that is this PragerU thing, that's like, it's really toxically problematic, first of all, that he calls it PragerU. Because I have seen online that people are like, well, this comes from a university. They think there is a place that is PragerU. They didn't pay attention. It's smart branding.
Starting point is 00:56:41 It really is smart branding. It's such smart branding. But it's liar's branding. Sure. Right? It's obviously like bullshit meant to like persuade people that this has a legitimacy that it's never earned. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:53 The problem with all of this is that we're going to keep on dumbing down kids over and over and over in many parts of the nation. Yeah. over and over and over in many parts of the nation. So we had to deal with a lot of kids that got substandard education because they were homeschooled, right? So there was a homeschool movement in this country that gave a lot of people substandard education. And some didn't, I'm not saying them all did,
Starting point is 00:57:19 but there was some that did. And now we're seeing more and more people get agenda-driven jobs on things like school boards and smaller government that is pushing these, pushing Christian values, Christian theocracy values on kids that are in schools in several places, removing anything that isn't attached to Christianity, right? So LGBTQ+, that's not
Starting point is 00:57:48 attached to Christianity, so they'll just remove it. And then they're also changing history in many places across the country, basically teaching a watered down version of white supremacy. Yeah. Oh yeah. And I mean, I say watered down, it's not watered down it is white supremacy but i am saying like it's it's being taught to children right and so they're teaching the values of white supremacy to children in many places in this country and that's a that's happening over and over and we're seeing different states fall it we have to remember as people who are trying to fight for reality that small government shit matters.
Starting point is 00:58:27 This stuff matters. This is a state decision, right? There's going to be a growth in all of these places across the country where young people are going to start coming into their own and start voting. And these young people live all over. And hopefully they pay attention
Starting point is 00:58:45 to these small races too, that it's not just big picture stuff that needs to, because if you just pay attention to say climate and you just pay attention to say, you know, unions or something like that, those are all great things to pay attention to. Don't get me wrong. But if we stop or don't pay attention to the school board,
Starting point is 00:59:03 all these problems keep happening over and over and over again because we don't nip it in the bud over here. Yeah, man. And like at a time when the threats that face our world are existential and the threats that face the country rely on a greater and greater degree of education
Starting point is 00:59:24 and specificity to solve, we are now facing a three-pronged problem. The first is the pandemic created an immense amount of educational loss. Sure. And we're still reeling from that and trying to recover from that. Yeah. Kids were fucked over by that. Then I just read an article this week that among young people,
Starting point is 00:59:45 there's been a massive loss of faith in college as the next step educationally. It was something like 70% or something of young people thought college was the path to success. It's down to less than 50% where people are like, yeah, I think, it's like 42% of people are like, yeah, college is the right thing to do next. And more than half now are like, yeah, I think it's like 42% of people are like, yeah, college is the right thing to do next. And like more than half now are like, yeah, I can get by without, I can get by
Starting point is 01:00:09 with a high school education. Then you add this shit in. We're making ourselves dumber. We're making ourselves less competitive. We're making it harder and harder for us to be like, here is our group of, instead of like a nation of increasingly educated people, increasingly able to deal with the complex problems that we have to face, we're moving backward in time. It's like the conservatives aren't just putting the brake. They're going in reverse. Then they want to go in reverse. Yeah. They've been wanting to go in reverse for many years.
Starting point is 01:00:39 And they're going to kill us. Yeah. They're going to kill us unless we take the reins back from them. But the reins are, you know, they're connected and they're connected to education and it's got to, you've got to remember, we've got to remember that that's the case and that we've always got to keep these down, these down ticket, these, you know, do the research when it comes to who's going on your fucking school board, do the research because a lot of times they don't even list who those people are or who they're affiliated with. They'll
Starting point is 01:01:06 say it's a non-affiliated person. You might have to do research in your local paper or go watch. What I did last time is I watched a bunch of these people had YouTube videos talking about who they were. And the one person was like, yeah, I was homeschooled and I really want to bring those values. I was like, absolutely not. You'll
Starting point is 01:01:22 never get my vote. There's no way I'm voting for you. So I took the time out of the day to do the research so that my local high school, who I don't even have a kid in, is going to do the right thing. Now, granted, my votes might not have mattered this time.
Starting point is 01:01:36 But next time, they might. Right. But, you know, do you remember when Donald Trump in 2016, he said, I love the uneducated. Sure.
Starting point is 01:01:45 And I can't help but think that the Republicans listened. Yeah, they're engineering that. And they're like, you know what? You're right. The uneducated is the path to success for the Republicans.
Starting point is 01:01:55 And they've tricked all these people into remaining uneducated. Yeah. And to valuing, to like literally placing value on a lack of education. Yeah. To like literally placing value on a lack of education. Absolutely.
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