Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 720: McCarthy Ousted, Trump Gags, and 5G Zombies
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welcome mat. Today is Thursday, October the 5th. And see, so we have to start off by addressing
a tiny, tiny elephant in the room. Yeah. And that is that last week we covered a story,
a bad science story that was written up about a man who was jailed for shaking a baby, and he did not, in fact, shake the baby.
There is a growing body of research that suggests that much of the hysteria and moral panic around shaken babies is not actually evidence of shaken babies.
No, it's not found.
It's not found.
It's not found.
But we got some reviews, and I think we need to clarify something. not actually evidence of shaking babies. No, it's not founded. It's not founded. It's not founded.
But we got some reviews,
and I think we need to clarify something.
Cecil and I are not pro-shaking your baby.
We are not like,
shaking babies doesn't hurt babies.
And we are also not saying that nobody has ever shaken their baby
and hurt their baby.
Yeah.
That's not what we're saying.
So if we gave that impression,
let me apologize for my lack of clarity. Yeah, mine too, because saying. So if we gave that impression, let me apologize for my lack of clarity.
Yeah, mine too, because I don't think we gave that impression.
But if that's the impression you got from that is that nobody's ever shaken a baby and harmed a baby.
That's not what Cecil and I believe.
If you've gotten the impression from our segment on that, that we think that you can shake a baby just as vigorously as you like without any care in the world.
We certainly don't believe that either.
Where our point of concern comes in, I think, just to iterate and make the point clear,
is that there was a time where shaken baby was a sort of catch-all for injured babies.
And there are many ways that babies have become injured through the course of their tiny lives.
Sometimes through child abuse, sometimes not.
Sometimes through accident and not abuse.
And part of the problem is that we see what we're looking for, and we need to see what the evidence shows.
And if we are looking for shaken babies, we are going to see damage and attribute it to shaken babies.
and attribute it to shaken babies.
And there is a growing body of research that suggests that there are a non-zero
and non-insignificant number of people
who have been prosecuted and had serious consequences
for child abuse that just did not occur.
And that's what we wanted to focus on
is the science should lead us to our conclusion.
Yeah, and this falls into forensic science is a lot of hokum. There's
a lot of forensic science that just is not founded in science. It is pattern seeking about the thing
that they want to find. You have to understand that when somebody is making a case against someone, they have a person in mind and
they're trying to fit these blocks to it. That's not how science normally works, right? Normally,
somebody comes into a place like they do on CSI all the time and they like search around and they
find this clue and this clue leads them to this thing. And it's like, no, the police officer
already picked who they want to be guilty. And then they just try to make that evidence fit that thing.
And sometimes they can jam that square peg
into the round hole by saying shaken baby syndrome
or by saying bite marks
or by saying these other things
that may or may not be true,
but it fits the mold that they've already decided
they want to try to fit.
They've made up their mind already.
Now they're just trying to find evidence
to support the made up mind.
It's a totally different,
so you have to understand
it's not even how science is normally done.
Right.
And so when people go through the justice system,
sometimes there are travesties of justice
because they have been sort of square peg round hole.
Maybe their kid fell off a couch or something and someone said,
oh, they had broken blood vessels.
They had this.
They had these things.
They had a hurt neck.
Therefore, it's shaken baby syndrome where it might not have been anything at all.
It might not have been anything even close to it.
They might not have abused their child at all.
They might have just had an accident.
Now, that's not saying that some, like you said,
some people might have shaken their baby.
Some people might have hurt their baby drastically by doing it.
Some people might have abused their baby,
and it was called shaken baby syndrome because they just,
but there are times that people are being sent through the justice system
and then sent to prison for a long time because we make mistakes.
The last thing I want to say is that when this sort of like meta-narrative culturally
floats around about something like Shaken Baby, it causes us to do the man in the clouds thing,
where because we're all familiar with this and because we're all told that this is a problem
and because we're all told that this is dangerous
and because this is this meta narrative
that it's a thing that happens with frequency,
all of a sudden we're going to find it.
And it's like, we're not necessarily finding
men in the clouds, right?
We're looking at shapes and we're deciding
that looks like a man in the clouds.
If I tell you
go outside and and find how tell me how many men you can find in the shape in the clouds you're
never going to come back to me with zero you're never going to do this day yeah right yeah yeah
you know so it's important that we tell ourselves stories that are true yeah and that we don't write
our stories overly large.
And I think that part of what has to be understood about the shaken baby thing is that the science
doesn't back the size of the story that we told as a metanarrative.
And unfortunately, the result is that we started looking for things and finding them and putting
people in prison for shit that didn't occur.
And that's a tragedy.
So this story comes from the New Republic.
In the shitter, Democratic representative reads out entire list of Trump crimes. We just have to play so this is jasmine crockett she is from texas and i i just
want to i just want to play this just so people can hear it and i will we'll just be quiet president
of the united states has committed but when we start talking about things that look like evidence
they want to act like they blind they don't know what this is these are our national secrets looks like in the shitter to me
this looks like more evidence of our national secrets say on a stage at mar-a-lago when we're
talking about somebody that's committed high crimes it's at least indictments let's say 32
counts related to unauthorized retention of
national security secrets, seven counts related to obstructing the investigation, three false
statements, one count of conspiracy to defraud the United States, falsifying business records
conspiracy to defraud the United States, two counts related to efforts to obstruct the vote
certification proceedings, one count of conspiracy to violate civil rights, 23 counts related to forgery or
false document statements, eight counts related to soliciting. And I could go on because he's got
91 counts pending right now. But I will tell you what the president has been guilty of. He has
unfortunately been guilty of loving his child unconditionally. And that is the only evidence
that they have brought forward. And honestly, I hope and pray that my parents love me half as much as he loves his child until they find some evidence we need to get back to the
people's work which means keeping this government open so that people don't go hungry in the streets
of the united states and i will yield boom she's just like drop the mic there's mics all over the floor the mic it's a mic valance it's
her and cory bush you know like i wouldn't want to live in texas or st louis but i would love if
they were my representative you know what i mean i know amazing just amazing devastating just so
like the the uh what what they have to say and how they say it and how forceful they have to say it. What I love too is how much fire she brings to this.
What she's doing is, you know,
she's focusing and channeling the anger, I think,
that a lot of people are feeling
with this running around, chasing your tail,
you know, ton of people in Washington
that are just wasting our time and our taxpayer money
doing the wrong thing.
And I think she channels that anger really well.
She does.
But I want to contrast that
because it's an important point of contrast.
I want to contrast that with
when the right-wing nutjobs boil over.
They boil over with misinformation,
disinformation, lies, bullshit, they're talking about
deep state conspiracies, they're talking about
every fucking nonsense
under the sun, right?
she's talking about just straight up like here's some facts
look, here's a photo
of our fucking national secrets
in the bathroom at his private resort
that's it, that's just a fact
look, I held it up, y'all saw it
it's not like,
well, let's have a committee to investigate whether or not Hunter Biden once got his dick
sucked and somehow that intersects with Joe Biden. There's a difference. There's a qualitative
difference that's really important here. Getting angry is okay. It's okay to be angry about things
when it's motivating and necessary and when we're
righteous about something. I don't mind the anger on the right. I just mind that it's all wrong.
I can't think of any circumstance, I'm sure there have been some, but I literally can't think of one
where it's not been aimed in this sort of shotgun spray of bullshit just every time. So this is the story of the week.
This is fucking delicious.
This is from Reuters.
You can also find this story literally anywhere that can spell the word news.
With like 25 links to this.
It's all over.
Kevin McCarthy ousted as speaker in historic vote.
So this is so historic that in the entire history
of the United States government,
this has never happened.
That's because they just made the rule.
Yeah, right.
They just made this rule.
They made the rule.
It used to be out of five people.
And they just changed the rule to one person.
They changed the rule.
And as soon as this happened,
Mitch McConnell gave a speech and said,
I hope the next speaker removes that rule.
Yeah.
That's what he said. He's like, I hope the next speaker removes that rule. Yeah. That's what he said.
He's like, I hope the next speaker removes that dumb rule.
Well, you know, I wonder if the next speaker will be allowed to remove that rule because that rule got put into place as part of a concession that McCarthy gave to Gates at all.
You know, the fucking scream contingent in order for them to get passed on the 14th vote.
Like, because they got voted down 13 times.
And like one of the concessions he had to give was look, I'll be your bitch.
And if you ever think I'm not being your bitch good and proper, then it only takes one person
instead of five to call for a vote to kick my ass out.
So you don't have to have any coalition building in order to kick me out.
in a coalition building in order to kick me out.
Yeah, well, and also, you know,
he got removed because he wasn't willing to work with the Democrats.
Like he had, like, it's not like he didn't have 210 votes
that he could have tapped into, right?
He could have.
Sure, yeah.
I think if he would have shown that he,
because the reason why they said that they voted him out
is because he proved
that he was a liar. He said he was going to give concessions before, and he didn't do those things
in May when they had to have some of the Democrat votes. He didn't do it. He lied to them. So
instead they said, okay, fine, no problem. We'll, you know, when it comes time for you to get
thrown out, we'll just not fucking, we will vote against.
And guess what?
They had eight other people that switched sides and got them out of there.
So now they bring up like a speaker pro tem and they just basically hit recess.
They're like, well, we're going to go on recess for a little bit and figure it out.
Because it's a non-functional.
Here's the thing.
As kind of like schadenfreude
delicious as it is to watch the Republican Party break. And I really do think more and more,
Cecil, I am really of the opinion that we are going to see a fracturing, a structural fracturing.
I think the Republican Party might become two parties in our lifetime. They're starting to
fight openly. They're starting to fight openly. So before, I think if there was fighting happening, you and I never saw it. We didn't see it happen behind
closed doors. If it happened at all, now it's happening in front of us. We're seeing different
people give different speeches that are very not all party line, right? Before, you know, for years,
I mean, decades, whenever any Republican spoke,
you could pretty much guess
what the other Republicans thought.
They all thought the same thing.
They all said the same thing
and they all spoke that party line
straight down that party line.
Occasionally there'd be outliers,
but they were very few and far between.
Now they're kind of all over the place.
This guy's attacking Gates.
Gates is attacking this guy.
There's a back and forth here.
And now they're trying,
the weakest thing is McCarthy
trying to blame the Democrats for this.
Oh, I know.
Yeah, this is like,
you couldn't control your house.
You literally can't get
your own house in order.
Are you fucking kidding me?
One of the first things they did
was they called Nancy Pelosi
and told her to move her office.
Yeah, yeah.
She had a,
she had a,
I forgot what it's called. So there's a hideaway suite. Yeah. Yeah. She had a, she had a, I forgot what
it's called. So there's a hideaway suite. So if you're a ranking member, if you're like a senator
and like reserved for some ranking members, you get a hideaway suite, which is a second office.
So you have your working office in the Capitol building, I guess, which is like
inconvenient. And then a handful of people get these little hideaway offices where they can like
have a
drink after hours. They can go back and like rest between votes. They can be closer to action on the
floor. And like in a, in a retaliatory measure to the Democrats, they kicked her out of her hideaway
suite. Yeah. And she said when, when Hassert, when she took over, she didn't kick Hassert out of it.
Right. Like he actually eventually got taken out
because he's a criminal.
He's a shit.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
He's a felon, right?
He's a felon, I think.
Isn't he a fucking felon?
If he comes from Illinois,
he's 100% a felon.
They're all felons.
Yeah.
Like just,
if you're from Illinois,
we actually recruit exclusively
from the felons.
If you're from Illinois,
a Republican or a Republican now,
you're definitely a Republican.
Right, yeah, it's true.
Because Blagojevich
was a Democrat for many years,
but he's an absolute criminal.
And as soon as he was,
the Republican Party was like,
sure, you can come over.
Oh, yeah, welcome.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No problem.
Didn't Trump pardon Blagojevich?
I think he might have.
I think Trump pardoned Blagojevich.
Oh, yeah.
Well, they had the same hair.
That makes sense.
But this is one of those things, though,
that when I heard that they voted him out,
I thought to myself,
I was like,
are we ushering in something worse?
Are we saying,
okay, he's got to go,
but is there a worse person?
Because you know there is
a worse person in that party.
Most of them are worse, actually.
That could stand up and be the speaker.
Yeah.
And you think,
and I thought,
is this a mistake?
And I don't think it is
because they stood by their guns
by saying,
look,
they have basically lied to us.
And if you lied to us,
there's only so much capital you get
on Capitol Hill.
Right.
There's only so much capital you get.
Spell it a different way, but it's only so much capital you get on Capitol Hill, right? There's only so much capital you get. Spell it a different way, but it's only so much capital.
Yeah, still limited.
And lying makes you lose it very quickly.
Yeah.
And so you can't recover from that.
And so at least lying to your colleagues,
they lie to us all the time,
but lying to your colleagues, that's tough.
Yeah, I am worried, you know,
because the reason McCarthy got am worried, you know, because, because the,
the reason McCarthy got booted, of course, is because he worked, you know, and he said as much,
there's gotta be an adult in the room is what McCarthy said when he helped push through the vote
to make sure that the government didn't get shut down. Yeah. Well, the government's going to be
shut down in November. Like this was a 45 day. This is a very, it's a temporary.
It's a bandaid.
It's no, there's no juice on it.
It's 45 days.
So in about, you know, no time at all,
we're going to be right up against the same thing.
And at least with McCarthy, he was like,
all right, I'm not willing to let the government shut down.
I'm not willing to not fund our debt.
Who's next?
Are they going to do that?
Yeah.
I am worried
that if we start ousting
the adults in the room,
we are not left with, like, we're left with
nobody. We're left with nobody.
And a completely dysfunctional
House of Representatives,
as much like Schadenfreude
as I might see in that,
we need our government to function.
I don't know what the next step's going to be.
I'm very interested to see who they...
It's going to be like 10 days, and then they'll probably
have somebody new, and then they'll go through
the gauntlet of how many fucking times
do they have to get... And then we'll see if they can
actually get shit done. The one way that can
guarantee that somebody would get done,
get up there, is if they put
somebody up there that the Democrats are okay with.
So they have to go over across the aisle and be like, okay, we that the Democrats are okay with. So they have
to go over across the aisle and be like, okay, we're going to be okay with this person. But if
not, then they're going to have to go with the MAGA party, whoever the MAGA party wants, and they
want. Yeah, this is a crossroads moment. This really is. And it's a crossroads because if they
get the MAGA party person, that person's in just as much hot water as Kevin McCarthy. Yeah. Right? Like, what's going to happen
in November? Let's say they get a MAGA person.
Let's say Marjorie Taylor Greene. Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Let's say Marjorie Taylor Greene gets made Speaker
of the House, and I kill myself at those
words. But let's say she becomes Speaker
of the House. She was censured when things were running
functionally. So she's doing her burpees
as the fucking Speaker of the House or whatever.
She has one of those big
hammers, and she's hitting a big tractor tire or whatever.
She's got a big giant hammer she's swinging.
So she's doing her CrossFit.
It's a speaker of the house thing.
And it comes time in November.
This Russian twist.
She loves those.
She loves those.
She loves them.
She's doing those kipping pull-ups.
Her shoulders are all blown out.
So she's
in there. She's doing her thing. She's blowing out
her back, her shoulders, her knees, whatever.
And she's
speaker. It's November. It's time again
to fund the government. We've got to decide we're going to fund
the government. And they
don't do it.
I don't know
what happens next. I don't know that they have
the kind of coalition on the right that they'll ever get behind the MAGA guy.
There could be like stalling out.
There could be like a complete stalling out of the government.
Sure.
There really could.
And that's nerve wracking.
Yeah.
That's nerve wracking.
Yeah.
I thought we had just slipped past it.
Yeah.
And then Gates came up and pulled this thing.
And who knows?
He could have pulled the rug out from the entirety of the United States with this.
He could have.
And I really do wonder,
is this the first genuinely visible fissure
in the crack that will soon become
a votable, functional, fundraisable MAGA party?
Yeah.
Which is different than the Republican.
Might be different.
Maybe this will be our first third party.
Yeah, maybe, maybe. Like real third party. Well, they've already started in the grassroots section, Republican. Might be different. Maybe this will be our first third party. Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
Like real third party.
Well, they've already started in the grassroots section, so.
Jesus, yeah, I know.
Oh!
Flip, flip, flip, Adelphia.
Flip, flip, flip, Adelphia.
Flip, flip, flip, Adelphia.
Yeah!
All right, so this story comes from CNBC.
First co-defendant in Trump-Georgia election case pleads guilty.
This is Scott Hall.
He's one of the 18 co-defendants.
He's the bail bondsman guy.
Yeah.
And he fucking flip, flip, flip Adelphia.
He wound up being one of the people
who was working very closely with Sidney Powell.
And he was one of the people
who was defrauding the voting system down there with the voting machines.
And they said that he has to pay a $5,000 fine and perform 200 hours of community service as part of the deal.
They also ordered him to write a letter of apology to the state of Georgia for his crimes and have no involvement
in the administration of elections anymore.
And I love that they made him
write on the board a hundred times.
I will not steal.
I will not meddle in elections ever again.
I will not treason.
He gets to the last one,
the bell rings,
he takes his skateboard and runs off.
But they also said that he is working
with federal prosecutors.
Yeah, that's the other thing too.
That's why you flip.
That's why you flip.
Well, you also flip too,
because they tuned it down to like four misdemeanors.
Well, yeah.
So they tuned it down.
It's a deal.
It's literally a deal.
It's literally a great deal.
And they're going to keep offering deals, right?
And like all they need is a handful of people
who are going to help the,
because if you're like, I'm never going to flip. I'm never going to flip. It's not going to be me.
I'm never going to flip. First guy flips. All right. You know what? That guy wasn't that big
a deal. He doesn't know much. He's not going to bolster the prosecution's case that much. I'm not
that worried. Second guy flips. I'm a little more worried. Every domino that falls is going to be
like, okay, now it's,
because then what I'm thinking,
if I'm that guy,
what I'm thinking is,
all right,
I got to flip
while I still have leverage.
If you don't,
then you're just saying
I'm guilty.
Right.
And there's no benefit to you.
Yeah,
because at some point
the prosecutor is going to say,
I don't need you to build this case.
We're not making a deal.
Yeah.
You can plead guilty
and we'll prosecute
to the full extent of the law.
Those are your, here are your options. Go to court, I'll prosecute to the full extent of the law. Those are your options.
Here are your options.
Go to court.
I'll prosecute you.
You got a great case
because I got six guys
that just flipped
and I got all the information.
I got all the juice.
And if you plead,
maybe they'll give you
a lower sentence.
Right.
That's what you would say.
But I won't.
Yeah.
I'll still recommend the maximum,
but you might get a lower sentence.
As the prosecutor,
I'm not helping.
Yeah.
So like,
if you're the prosecutor,
you're going to play
a pretty big hardball here.
You're going to be like,
look,
if you work with me, you can pretty much walk. big hardball here. You're going to be like, look, if you work with me,
you can pretty much walk.
You can go pick up
some trash on the side
of the road
for five weeks.
Yeah.
And then you're pretty much
your own man.
Yeah.
Or take your chances
that you flip on time.
And the other thing too
that I was listening to,
a couple of different places
had said this,
that very specifically,
Fonny Willis has not given out these plea deals to everybody yet, but there's a good chance that
everyone will receive one. Everyone that is involved in this Rico case will receive a plea
deal of some sort. An offer? An offer of some sort. Every single person, maybe not Trump,
but I'm pretty sure everybody else
will receive something
because when she was
bringing it in front
of the judge,
the judge had even asked her,
have you given them
an opportunity to like
deal and plea deal?
And she was like,
I haven't sent them
all out yet.
So she clearly has them.
And other people
were saying that
this is like a demonstration
that her case
is not as strong.
And then I heard from other people that another set of people that were saying, no, that's just is not as strong. And then I heard from other people
that another set of people that were saying,
no, that's just not true,
that her case is very strong.
And the fact that people are starting to flip
is an indication that her case is very strong.
Yeah, and again, everybody who flips
has to agree to work for the prosecution to do it.
And this is a person who I think, you know,
is going to be on the stand against Sidney Powell
because she's the one who he was working very closely with.
So now if you're Sidney Powell, you've got to be thinking, fuck the pressure's on.
Yeah.
So does she flip?
Well, yeah.
And this thing is like, if you're phony, don't you give a sweetheart ass deal to Sidney Powell.
This guy could be on the stand soon.
And that is also demoralizing for all the rest of them, right?
If they see him on the stand, they're immediately thinking, well, is, you know, is Giuliani going
to flip? Is so-and-so, whoever, you know, one of these random dudes going to flip is, you know,
because I'll tell you what, the people, this is one of those guys who was a low level player in
this from the state, not somebody who was in the White House.
He was clearly from the state
that was trying to do something in this state.
You get him and that other lady
who was like the leader of their party
in small coffee county.
You get her, you get a couple more people.
Suddenly it starts looking really, really dire
for all these other people who are looking
at, and these are long sentences with felonies. Yep. Yeah. And a felony in America will ruin your
whole life. Could ruin your whole life. You know, like, it's not like you do a felony. You're like,
okay, well that means I have to, you know, do more prison time or whatever. It's like, yeah,
yeah. But you're just also a felon forever. And in America, you never pay your dues. Yeah.
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Network and Stack TV. But where would you find a handsome dog to replace me? This story comes
from the New York Times. Death of Dianne Feinstein. Newsom faces pressure to quickly appoint a
replacement. Now he has already appointed a replacement. So he appointed a, and he was challenged
several years back that if he had to appoint somebody, would he appoint a black woman?
He appointed a, I believe a black lesbian woman. Oh, wow. I'm not mistaken. I could be mistaken,
but I think I'm not. Well, let's find out right now. Let's search for it right now.
Newsom picks LaFonza Butler. I don't know if I'm saying that correctly.
That's how it looks like it's spelled.
LaFonza Butler as a replacement.
How old is LaFonza Butler?
Because that is something that I am interested to find out.
She looks much younger than Dianne Feinstein.
That's for sure.
She definitely does.
Let's do search Google.
She's 44.
She's younger than I am. Good 44. She's younger than I am.
Good for her.
Younger than I am.
How great is that?
Okay, so a younger lady, a black woman,
like you said, maybe a black lesbian.
So great.
Sounds great.
It's awesome.
And one of the things that I wanted to talk about,
one of the reasons why I wanted to talk about this story
was because Dianne Feinstein could have left
a really amazing mark
on the American political system
and not left a sour taste in people's mouth, right?
I want to read some of the accomplishments
that I found today when I was looking for
the things that she did, right?
So she's the first female mayor of San Francisco.
So-
That's a big deal.
She had tons of conservation and restoration bills,
too many to list.
Like genuinely,
conservation and restoration stuff
and environment stuff,
that was her deal.
She did a ton of them.
Assault weapons ban in the 90s.
Protection for unaccompanied minor immigrants.
She had fuel efficiency bills.
She was part of a report on CIA torture in 2014
and helped outlaw the practice.
Hell yeah.
She oversaw a six-year review
of the CIA's detention and interrogation program.
And it said,
culminating in a 2014 report,
executive summary,
and subsequent anti-torture legislation,
reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act in 2022,
and the Protection of Marriage Equality Act in 2022.
She's had an amazing career.
Yeah.
And it reminded me sort of of how we feel
kind of of Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
I was just thinking the same thing.
You know, if at the end,
you stepped aside at that moment where you knew you could, I don't think anybody would be motherfucking Dianne Feinstein at all.
And we got lucky in this case, right?
Where, you know, I mean, I don't know if you're lucky in the sense that I think Newsom was or somebody was going to be governor that was going to be blue.
But even still, this is one of those moments that you look back and you think,
gosh, no one would have anything to say if she stepped away two years ago.
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, when she died, she was 90 years old. That's just too old.
That just is too old to be in a position of this kind of leadership. And it just is,
to be in a position of this kind of leadership.
And it just is, you know?
And like, it's okay for there to be a sunset of your career prior to 90.
Yeah.
It's okay to say, you know,
because strategically it's bad, right?
And Ruth Bader Ginsburg is a great example.
If you are a party person,
if you are a politician,
if you care about outcomes that are partisan
outcomes, RBG, and I know she was not a politician, but she absolutely cared about
partisan issues and partisan outcomes. She held on too long. She was playing a game,
and that game at some point is to benefit you. It's because you still like doing this job.
It's because you still like the work.
And so you still like, you know,
whatever is attached to that work.
But like that is a shirking of your responsibility
as a civil servant.
Your job as a civil servant
is to do what is in the best interest of the people.
And that includes being strategic
about your decision to retire.
So you retire when the person
who is the likeliest to be in power
is going to replace you
as somebody who holds the same ideals.
Sure.
Because if you don't,
and we watched you with RBG,
if you don't,
it all gets wound back.
Yeah.
And your great, beautiful legacy
gets shit on.
And so you hurt yourself,
you hurt your legacy,
and you hurt the strategy.
You know, what a great point,
because imagine if she'd have done it with Obama a couple of years ahead of time when they couldn't have blocked it.
Right.
And then she could have sat in on the room to talk to him about who she
prefer to be sitting in that seat.
You know what I mean?
Like, she has a conversation.
Instead, she has to leave a note to Donald Trump that says,
please don't replace my seat because you didn't replace the other seat.
And then he was like,
threw it over his shoulder.
And then it flew right into fucking Mitch's goiter
and it ate it.
And then that was the end of the,
that was literally the end
that anybody thought about it.
And then they immediately appointed it
Amy Coney Barrett.
Yeah.
So like,
like you have an opportunity
to change the future
and then keep those changes
that you had for all those years.
Instead, you decide to hold on until this point. And it's like, you know, it just sucks. And I want
to, you know, one of the things too is every day that Dianne Feinstein did not step away was taking
away a day from her successor's chance to be a more powerful incumbent.
Yeah, very true.
The more that she was able to stand in front of everybody,
the new person is able to stand in front of everybody,
LaFonza Butler,
the more she's able to stand in front of everybody
and be familiar and be an incumbent
and be doing the people's work for a while,
that gives her a power into the next election.
Every day you take away from that
is every day you give her a chance to not be reelected.
Yeah, you know, I was just thinking
exactly along the same lines.
Like, you know, wouldn't it be refreshing
if a senator reached a point in their career
where they said, okay, strategically,
I'm at a place where I have to recognize
that every day is a borrowed day, right?
Just statistically, every day is a borrowed day
at a certain age.
You don't know if you're going to wake up tomorrow.
That's not me being ageist.
That's just like, we die.
People die.
None of us go forever.
So at some point you got to say, all right,
well, you know, wouldn't it be better
if I have three years left to serve on my term?
I know I've got a solid blue
governor to replace me. What I'm going to do is step down and offer my services as an aid and
mentor to the person that's going to replace me. I'll still come to work every day, but I'll come
to work as a senator's aid. And I'll help this person get their feet wet. And they'll be believed,
all those people that love me will love my successor
because they'll see the weight
that I carry behind this new person.
It would just be better, man.
It would just be so much better.
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We would be remiss, Tom, if we didn't talk at all about Trump's trial that's happening this week.
Because we have Trump derangement syndrome.
We have a Trump derangement syndrome
because Trump's in the news all the time,
and also getting indicted for crimes all the time.
But we're the ones who are dwelling on this, clearly.
Absolutely.
It's not that literally every day
something is on the front page of every paper.
Or he does something horrible enough
to talk about all the time. Yeah, right. Yeah. Okay. So yes, it's us. It's us. This story,
again, the New Republic, hours after gag order, Trump launches fresh vitriol against New York
judge. So earlier, Trump truthed out some bullshit about a clerk, like some conspiratorial shit
about a clerk. It was basicallyatorial shit about a clerk.
It was basically like,
hey, here's a picture of the clerk
once shaking hands with a Democrat
at an event where you just shake hands
with everybody.
This proves that the whole court
is in bed with the Democrats.
And this is a Democratic show trial, right?
That's fucking nonsense.
This person was just at an event and got
their handshake and there's literally no other tie so it's nonsense the judge was like enough
of that shit that person works for me that doesn't happen again so trump took that truth down
because that's how truth works took that truth down he detr-truthed it. Called it back.
He untruthified it.
He reeled that truth in.
Yeah.
And then he started blasting away now at the judge.
Yeah.
And when I read this story, I wanted to talk to you and say,
do you think that this was the strategy all along?
I think the strategy is to goad the judge.
Trump wins both ways.
This is the smartest thing he can do.
If he goads the shit out of the judge and the judge takes the bait
and imposes a gag order,
oh, thanks for all the PAC money.
I'll get money, money, money, money, money, money, money, money.
We'll flow in because I've been silenced,
my free speech, blah, blah, blah.
It writes itself.
And if the judge doesn't take the bait,
then Trump is free to say whatever awful, mean-spirited, conspiratorially-minded bullshit
he wants. It's a win-win for him as long as he pushes all the time.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I think Trump is always on. So I don't know that I want to accredit a
crafty idea to him.
I just think he goes full bore
and sometimes it just happens
that that's good for him.
Sure, yeah.
And so I think like, you know,
sometimes just going as hard
and as fast as you can all the time,
sometimes that pays off.
And I think in this case,
it's just paying off.
I don't want to attribute, you know,
some sort of genius to a
monster, somebody who doesn't understand what he's doing. He doesn't, he hasn't crafted two moves
ahead. Instead, what he's done is just put the pedal, he's just mashed the pedal down and just
trying to be as vitriolic as possible. I also think, you know, Trump is a, the kind of guy
who's going to go after whoever he can, whenever he can.
And he's talking about not only the judge, but he's talking about the prosecutor.
He called her an animal.
Did you see this?
Yeah, yeah.
You know, he loves to do this, especially with women of color.
He loves to call them an animal.
And that is a fucking, that's not a dog whistle anymore.
It's a megaphone to all the racists out there.
100%, man, 100%.
I was struck just by an amusing analogy.
Like Trump plays politics the same way that I play pool.
Yeah.
I am bad at pool.
So what I do is I hit the ball as hard as I can
into the biggest cluster of the other balls
in order to create as much chaos as possible on the table.
Yeah, that's perfect.
And sometimes they go in.
Sometimes things happen.
And then I'm like, I meant that to happen.
It's kind of the same thing.
It's just fucking slop politics.
He's playing slop politics.
The more energy you put into those balls,
the farther they travel,
the better chance they have of going into a hit.
Just accidentally bouncing into a corner.
Just accidentally.
And that's the same thing with him.
It's just a better chance it has
of just bouncing into somebody and causing chaos.
And he's just hoping for that.
Did you see this week that his legal team
forgot to check a box?
Oh my God, yes!
So now there's some argument back and forth
about whether or not this is real, right?
So evidently they started complaining about it.
So they were like, well, we wanted a jury trial, blah, blah, blah. And the judge basically said, well, you didn't,
you didn't check the form to get a jury trial. But then other people came out and said, there's
no way they could have got a jury trial anyway, even in this state at this type of trial wouldn't
have been a jury trial anyway. So they couldn't even requested one. But the judge basically called
them out and was like, you didn't even fill out
the form for that.
You didn't even ask for one.
Look,
the answer was going to be no
because probably procedurally
it was always no.
But also,
you're lawyered
at such a bad level.
The thing is,
like,
his lawyers are shit.
Yeah.
Nobody,
nobody that's like
really fucking good.
No,
they've all abandoned him.
They're all,
or they're indicted.
Yeah,
no,
yeah.
Either he got him in trouble or they're,icted. Yeah, no, yeah. Either he got him in trouble,
or they're at this point,
there's nobody left
that's worth a shit
that's willing to,
because, you know,
this guy basically has
two people that are sitting next to him,
and one of them is complaining about this.
And then I think the judge
basically called him out
to like scold them.
And can you imagine
how fucking red your face would be?
Do you ever, Cecil, have you ever been in a position
where you've been like, hey, that thing.
And it's like, actually, that was your fault.
And then immediately you realize it was.
Yeah, maybe a couple of times.
Sure, a couple of times, I'm sure.
That has happened to me just a handful of times.
And when it happens and you're like righteously indignant
and only to find out that you were the cause of your own
righteous indignation.
You hoisted your own baton.
Man, there is no
fucking worse feeling. It's like your fucking
guts just flip inside.
And you're just like, oh, I made a huge
mistake.
Abortions
for all.
Very well. No abortions for all very well no abortions for anyone abortions for some miniature american flags for others
Tennessee woman denied medically necessary abortion is running for office so this is a lady who had a
she she was never this this was never going to be a viable pregnancy but because tennessee's laws
are so draconian yeah doctors were unable or unable they were on unable to brave those draconian laws
to provide her medical care. That's what happened.
And so she had to travel out of state.
Non-viable pregnancy.
Non-viable.
She was never going to die.
There was no way that baby
was going to live outside of the womb.
But the doctor's like,
look, I can't go to jail.
Like, I can't risk my license.
I can't risk my freedom and my family.
She had to travel.
So she had to travel.
And now she's back in Tennessee
and she's like,
guess what, motherfuckers? She's suing too. Yep. So she's not only suing the
government, she's also running for, uh, for state office. And, uh, she, I want to read too, because
it said after calling several clinics and booking flights and hotels, Phillips was able to travel to
New York to get an abortion, but she was forced to grieve her pregnancy loss alone.
And it's because, you know, like suddenly people always say,
well, they could just go to another state.
And you're like, but my support network is here, right?
So if I get sick or get hurt,
I could have my in-laws come over and help me and take care of me or be there and give me a hug
after something terrible happens to me, right?
I could be around people that could be my support network. Instead, I've got to board a plane. I've got to
fly to another state in the union, get an abortion, and then stay in a hotel room and cry myself to
sleep alone because it costs a lot of money to send my whole family there. And the other thing
too is like, this woman wanted this baby. It's not like this woman is just like, so like, I know they try to paint it and it doesn't matter anyway, right?
Like it doesn't matter why anybody wants to get an abortion. It doesn't matter why anybody wants
to get an abortion, but you know, they always try to paint it as like, man, we're just trying to,
we're trying to do this, stop abortions as birth control is basically that when they talk about it,
that's what they talk about. That's the rhetoric on the right. That's what they're talking about.
But like, this isn't a, this wasn't birth control.
This woman wanted this baby.
Her daughter was like singing goodnight songs to the bump.
Like the bump in her tummy.
She was sick.
Like they, the whole family was just over the moon
with the idea of having another baby.
So they wanted this baby.
And then you inflicted this on them.
And now you inflicted this on them. And now you inflicted this on them
and she's going to go
and she's going to become,
you know, maybe,
you know, she's in a very red district.
So who knows?
But you know,
the more people this happens to,
the more people,
this is more dominoes falling.
And it's not just people
who are going to run for office.
It's rich people
who are going to help fund her.
It's somebody's brother who's,
you know, he says his sister had something like this happen. He might vote for's brother who's, you know, he says his sister had something like
this happen. He might vote for her. Somebody's, somebody's, you know, a mom had to have their
daughter go through something like this. They might vote for her where they never voted for
a Democrat before, because the more dominoes fall, the more you're going to see what a political
loser this is because you're stripping rights away from 50%
of the population. Yeah, man. This was the biggest miscalculation. The dog caught the bumper on this
one in the biggest way. And this is more than a political misstep. Lives are being damaged. Lives
are being ruined. Lives are going to be lost as a result of this if they haven't already. We know, we covered stories where people were on the brink of death because they couldn't get access to care
in time. I want to see more and more people challenging the system directly as a result
of this. Because like, yeah, you can go to another state unless you're in Alabama, which wants to
find you if you do. And like prosecute you. And like a lot of people can't afford to leave the
state. And like a lot of people can't afford to leave the state.
No.
And like a lot of people.
And you shouldn't have to.
And you shouldn't have to.
And a lot of people, I don't know if it's the majority,
but it's not, it's close.
A lot of people that have abortions already have kids.
So who's taking care of those kids
while they go off to do this?
It's like, there's a myth.
There is this like idea that like,
the people who are getting abortions are irresponsible
teenagers.
Yeah.
That's not true.
That is not the demographic statistical reality.
It is, I believe it's, it's a majority of people that have already, they already have
children.
These are moms already.
These are just people who, for whatever reason reason in their life it's not the right time
for them to have this
pregnancy so they're just
seeking medical care
we're painting this as if it's like
not we but like the right
paints this as this like
moral issue of
like morally delinquent
sexually crazed teenagers
and that's not it.
Like that would be fine if it was. Like go get a
fucking abortion. I don't think teenagers should have fucking
kids. That's insane.
I mean like, why are we trying to encourage
people to do that? Millennials can't
afford houses. How do teenagers
have kids? Right.
This is so, like I'm not trying to cast
aspersions I guess is what I'm saying on anybody at
any age for any reason.
If the reason you want an abortion is because you want an abortion, then that's it.
You don't have to say anything to anyone else.
Like you said, it's medical care.
It's none of my fucking business.
None of my fucking business.
But I can't wait to see more people challenging.
I can't wait to see this get, I can't wait to see this bite these fucking evil hate mongers right in their ass.
I think everybody, while Roe was restrictive,
I think everybody
kind of was cool with Roe.
I think that it gave the people
who don't like abortion
those protections
for later term stuff.
Even though they say
late term abortions,
those weren't happening.
It was de minimis.
You know,
they were happening
when there was like,
oh, horror for either the mom or the baby,
they were happening.
But it was so, I mean, what?
Like 10 or something a year or some crazy.
It's essentially zero.
Yeah, statistically zero.
Such a small number of zero.
It's statistically zero.
But, you know, then you have very good protections
for the last trimester.
You know what I mean?
Like that first trimester is kind of,
it's kind of there where, you know, like nobody really was, was pushing for anything there. Sure.
There was some states who were doing it, but they were few and far between. But man, once that went
away, I think everybody that kind of was just looking around and saying, man, we really messed
up. That was kind of the perfect middle ground for a lot of people to be okay with it.
Yeah, Roe was a very sensible, like, Roe was a very sensible policy line to draw, right?
I think it made a lot of sense in terms of its political strategy.
Yeah.
It made a lot of sense.
Now this fucking no abortions at all, six weeks, which is essentially no abortions,
all this fucking crap, that's all going to backfire.
Yeah.
That is all going to backfire.
It may not backfire all at once, but it is, I'll tell you what, every single place that
abortion is on the ballot, it loses.
It's losing.
It's losing every time.
Every, there's no exception to that. And it's very,
it's a galvanizing point for young people.
Absolutely.
And so you are making a huge mistake
by the entrance of young people
into the voting pool
and then throwing this at them with,
you know.
They're going to get crushed.
You're doing the wrong thing.
You're going to get fucking crushed.
And it's not just, it's not just in Tennessee. You're, you're doing the wrong thing. You're going to get fucking crushed. And it's not just,
it's not just in Tennessee.
So this story comes from ProPublica,
Idaho banned abortion.
Then it turned down supports for pregnancies and births.
And I read this and I was like,
yeah,
no duh,
man.
Of course it did.
Of course.
Of course.
Of course.
Because this is about shaming women,
hurting women and financially crippling women.
Yeah.
That's what all of this has always been about.
This has always been a strategy to keep women,
I believe this more strongly,
this has always been a strategy to keep women out of the workforce.
This has been a strategy to maintain cultural and financial dominance
by men over women.
Yeah, it's just a it's state enforced patriarchy.
And I want to say, you know, the egregiousness of this,
I want to read a little bit of this.
It says, they allowed two bills to die
that would have put Idaho on the same track
as nearly every other state with abortion restrictions,
including Florida, Kentucky, and Texas
by extending postpartum Medicaid coverage to 12 months.
Idaho's Medicaid coverage ends after two months after birth. Jesus Christ. The minimum under
federal law. They turned down 36 million in federal grants to support childcare this summer,
while other states with new abortion restrictions, Alabama, Louisiana, and Mississippi among them,
made investments in early childhood education and
daycare. Idaho lawmakers at the same time attributed the decision to a pending audit
of a different batch of grants. And so they basically just refused the money they could have
invested. Like, look, you're the one who wants the kids. You're the one who wants the kids,
then fucking take care of them. Help take care of them. Create a social safety net that can take
care of them. But you never wanted the kids. a social safety net that can take care of them.
But you never wanted the kids.
You just wanted to punish people.
That's all you wanted to do.
You didn't want to do anything
but punish people.
That's how our prison system works.
All we wanted to do is hurt you.
We don't give a fuck about you.
We want to hurt you,
hurt you, hurt you.
And then whatever happens
to you after that,
I don't fucking care.
Yep.
Yeah, that's it.
That's literally what
they're doing over and over and over again. And they're doing it to women and they're doing it
to people who get incarcerated. It is literally the party of vengeance. That's all it is. It's
a vengeance party. I mean, just want to just hurt as many people as they can. Yeah. We, you know,
America talks a big game about how much we love kids and how much we love children. And like, we don't. We absolutely do not.
And I'll tell you what,
like that is the biggest fucking narrative cultural lie
that we ever bother to speak out loud.
And we know it because we aren't investing in them.
We are not protecting them.
We are not keeping them safe.
We are not providing them with medical care.
We are not providing them
with quality education and interventions. We are not investing. We medical care. We are not providing them with quality education and interventions.
We're not investing.
We're taking care of kids.
And if like you don't care about something, you don't pour resources.
Sure.
You just don't.
That's it.
Like that's the end.
At the end of the day, if you want to know what somebody cares about, look at how they spend their time and their resources.
That's exactly it.
Not their language.
For years.
And there's so a lot of people, for years, and there's,
so a lot of people write mission statements, right? So they write a mission statement.
And I remember for years, I was, I was working in an office where there was a guy who was running a mission portion of this company. And what he would say is, don't, don't show me your mission
statement. If he's coming in to do consulting work. I don't want to see your mission statement.
I want to see your budget.
Show me your budget.
Yeah.
Because I can tell where your mission is
by looking at your budget.
Yeah.
What you care about is what you spend money on.
None of that other shit.
You could fucking talk about whatever the fuck you want.
Exactly right.
Yep.
And you could write down about puppies and rainbows
and cute kittens.
Yep.
What are you spending your fucking money on?
Yep.
That's what we know.
And if we look at fucking Idaho, we know exactly where they're not spending their money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, like, like how much do you care about kids when you have child marriage as a rule?
Yeah.
Like you care about kids, you're letting them get fucking raped.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like you care about kids.
We're not taking care of them from the moment of their fucking birth. You care about kids. We're not funding their education. You know,
we don't care. Just say, welcome to Idaho. Fuck you. We don't care about, we don't give a shit.
Go wander off into the distance because it's all the distance.
He won the Nobel prize for inventing the artificial appendix.
Nobel Prize for inventing the artificial appendix.
This story comes from NPR.org.
Nobel Prize goes to scientists who made mRNA COVID vaccines possible.
It's just cool.
It's just great.
This is just cool.
This has been in the works for a long time. When you read this article, they talk about how long they have been working on this.
And the funding finally came during the COVID.
Yeah.
The COVID pandemic.
During the pandemic is when they finally were able to get a lot of this research that they'd already done,
really funded, and we were able to see massive tests on a massive scale.
And they wound up getting the Nobel Prize for it to two researchers.
And a couple of things that are particular, like first of all,
the COVID mRNA
vaccines
indisputably, according to the data,
have saved hundreds of thousands
if not millions of lives.
Just lives that just would have been
lost. This thing would have been vastly
worse. So that's
unbelievably awesome.
But also just opening the door to a new technology yeah that so
far we have dipped just the absolute corner of our toe into but we have opened up the door into
a new kind of medical technology that has the potential to inoculate us against things like
cancer yeah you know to inoculate us against all kinds of other biological threats and diseases
that we might face.
And like,
we're not there yet,
right?
We're not there yet.
This shit is slow.
It takes time.
But what COVID also taught us is that if we're willing to invest,
we can do incredible things very quickly.
Scientifically,
we're not usually willing to invest.
They don't normally want to spend the money.
They spend the money on what they can make money on.
Right.
And this wasn't anything that they were looking to do
until it became literally the thing
that was going to open the planet back up.
Right.
And they had to do it.
And somebody did it,
and they funded a ton of money from all over the place,
and they found out that it worked,
and it worked really well.
And so it worked so well that this week,
they sent out an alarm to activate it.
Nice.
So what's funny is,
I don't know if you saw this this week.
I don't know if you saw it beforehand.
I didn't see it beforehand.
So clue me in, buddy.
So all over the place,
I was seeing it from all these different places.
Evidently, as soon as they said
that they were going to have this,
it was like a FEMA alert
that was going to go off on our phones.
So everybody in the United States
was going to get an alert from the government
that basically said,
hey, this is a test of the emergency broadcast system.
They used to play on the mornings on our TV shows.
They used to,
but nobody watches live TV anymore.
So they don't show them on TV anymore.
Around here on the first Tuesday
of every month at 10 in the morning,
they sound the air raid sirens
or the tornado sirens.
And so you hear those,
but once in a while,
my phone will go off
and go off
from one of these particular alerts.
And it's a very loud piercing sound.
You can't shut it off.
And it normally happens when there's a tornado nearby.
I'll normally get an alert like this.
And it goes off even if your phone's on silent.
And if your phone's on silent, it doesn't matter.
It still just burns.
And so that's what was going to happen.
They announced that this is going to happen.
They said, we're going to send this alert
to everybody's phones.
Immediately, all the QAnon people
and all the people who are just absolutely conspiracy crazy
took to the internet to tell people
that they're going to be activating people's COVID vaccines
with the 5G signal that comes from your phone.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Doesn't make any sense.
It's literally the stupidest thing that's ever happened
or ever been said.
5G signals are traveling around you right now.
Like right now they're all around us.
They're not doing anything to us.
They don't go, they actually don't penetrate human beings.
They're like, it's just-
That's why I get terrible wifi inside my body.
Yeah, when I stick my phone up my ass.
I can't get that thing to ring no matter what.
I can't even bring up the Goatsy page.
No, but in any case,
they started talking about it all over the internet.
There was a Reddit thread where this,
and I don't know how true this is
because you're just seeing text messages, right?
So I have no idea if this guy baked this up on his own.
Seems like something that a crazy person might type,
but evidently he was getting text messages
from his landlord saying,
I'm going to shut the power off at this
time next week. And the guy said, I don't want you to shut my power off. And he said, too bad,
I'm the landlord. And this guy called the cops on him like three times to get him to stop
shutting the power off. They still shut the power off and put a lock on the box and the cops never
did anything because of this signal. Other people were sending their loved ones. But he was worried about a signal that was going to go to a cell
phone powered by a battery. I just have to point that out. Tom, I have no idea why he decided to
do that, but it was in conjunction with this and because of this. Another person was saying,
put your phone in the microwave because that's a Faraday cage that will stop it. You got to
unplug the microwave, put your phone inside there. cage that will stop it. You got to unplug the microwave,
put your phone inside there. Other people said, put your phone in, wrap it in tinfoil,
then put it in the Faraday cage, which is your microwave. I still have unplugged. Oh,
I have a ton of questions. And so a lot of people that were sharing these with a lot of other people on the internet to say, they're going to be sending this code out. You don't want to be anywhere near your phone.
And so it went off
and literally nothing happened
except for people had to wait
until their phone stopped shouting
so they could shut off the screen
and go back to doing whatever they were doing.
But what makes me crazy
is all these people so fervently believe this
and so quickly post this stuff everywhere they can.
But then when nothing happens, what do they do?
Yeah, it doesn't seem to like.
It doesn't seem to phase them at all.
Break.
It never breaks the chain of belief, right?
Like if I was the kind, if I said, look, the sky is blue.
That's just the color of the sky.
It's the color of the sky, the sky is blue. That's just the color of the sky. It's the color of the sky is the sky is blue.
And tomorrow I went outside and the sky was just chartreuse.
I'd be like, well, I need to rethink my thoughts about the blue sky.
Sure.
Right.
I'd be like, and if I wouldn't, if it just has to happen once and I'm like, well, that's
totally different color sky.
Like, and reason for that.
Can I find a reason for that?
No, no. It's just the different color sky. Like, any reason for that? Can I find a reason for that? No?
No, it's just the color of the sky now?
All right.
I got to change my opinion on this.
These guys never have to change their opinion.
Harold Camping predicted the end of the world,
then it didn't happen.
They all stood on a fucking hill or whatever.
They went away from the end of the world.
It's all over shit.
And then it didn't happen.
Like, well, I got the date wrong.
We did it wrong.
We did it wrong again.
He did the same thing with John John and wherever he was, Texas.
Right, yeah.
Is that guy,
do those people disperse?
I don't know,
they're probably still there.
Are they still waiting for him?
The fuck is wrong
with these people?
I do want to read
from this article
a couple of the like
chunks of what people
thought was going to happen.
It's fucking insane.
Also, I have to address
the turn off your cell phone.
Let me just sort of,
if,
if you take the premise that the United States government is sending an evil signal and that that evil signal can activate some sleeper cells that are literally cells inside my body.
From Rainbow Company.
What was it?
Raccoon City or whatever.
Yeah, Raccoon City.
Sleeper cells of zombification.
Like, if my cell phone is turned off,
the signal that is going to travel to my cell phone
would still hit me.
It's still going to come around you.
What the fuck is my cell phone doing?
It's not like there's a fucking satellite
that like homes in perfectly on your-
It just shoots it right to every phone?
It just shoots it right there.
Like, it just goes, ring this every phone there. Like it just goes,
wing this phone everywhere. And then your phone rings.
So,
so then were they thinking,
I know I'm taking this too far,
but like,
were they thinking Cecil?
No.
That the,
that the signal goes to my phone and then my phone,
then your phone is a thing.
That's the amplifier to you.
It sends it to me.
I guess.
I don't know.
I don't know what that,
so here's the thing,
Tom,
they weren't thinking.
Yeah.
Okay.
Because they're talking about putting their fucking phone in an unplugged
microwave.
Yeah.
As I also love the idea that it is a Faraday cage.
Just put it in the toaster oven.
It reheats way better.
The microwave is uneven heating. And I don't believe they're useful.
They get one of those bacon pans for the microwave.
Ever use one of those?
Your bacon pan?
Yeah, those are great.
Really great.
They do a great job.
Bacon pan that like fries it kind of?
Outstanding.
A weirdly good job.
Outstanding.
That's a great way to make bacon.
That is a great use of the microwave.
It is.
And absolutely,
the only complaint I have is you can only make like five or six slices. That's why I don't use it. Yeah. I don't own
one. Yeah. Because when I make bacon, I always make the whole pound. You make the whole pound.
Because you can. Yeah. And then it's not like there's ever leftover bacon. It's not like you're
not munching on the bacon while you're cooking. Right. And then you take the few pieces of bacon
that you need, and then you munch a couple, put it in the fridge
and then later you've got bacon just on demand.
I've never had the later part.
Okay.
I've never.
I used to, back when I was like working out a lot,
I would make like, and Finn would come over
and he was maybe like 10, 11, 12.
I would make like six, seven eggs for me,
a pound of bacon, three, four eggs for him.
And he and I would just sit and we would just like roll through like six, seven eggs for me, a pound of bacon, three, four eggs for him. And he and I would just sit
and we would just like roll through
like together,
like 10 eggs and a half a pound of bacon each.
And I was like,
eight ounces of bacon.
That's breakfast.
It was awesome.
You guys were fucking lumberjacks.
We were, yeah.
I'll tell you what.
It was fucking for real.
It was calories for days.
So I got to read some of this crazy bullshit
just so you guys get a sense of this.
Cause I didn't,
I did not see any of this ahead of time
so
this is being shared
on Twitter by some idiot named Gina
turn off your cell phones on October
the 4th the EBS
is gonna test the system using 5G
this will activate the
Margberg virus in people
who have been vaccinated and sadly
turn some of them
into zombies.
Okay, that's fair.
I gotta be honest,
wouldn't it be cool
to just call in
sick as a zombie?
Just be like,
I'm sorry,
I can't come in.
I like 100%
need to take the day off
and eat brains.
I am so fucking hungry
for brains right now.
I would love to be
like the supervisor
getting a call
from somebody
that's just like, yeah, hello, this is Tom.
Brains.
So you're going to make it in?
You're going to.
Brains.
Can you work from home today?
Brains.
I don't know why these people are so worried.
No one's going to eat their brain.
Right?
Yeah.
There's nothing there.
It's like a snack.
It's a light snack.
is going to eat their brain.
Right?
Yeah.
There's nothing there.
It's like a snack.
It's a light snack.
Theories tend to focus on the alleged dangers
of vaccines and 5G signals.
5G cellular networks,
which Telecom began
implementing in 2019,
have been erroneously
associated with COVID
and vaccines
by conspiracists
throughout the pandemic.
In the UK,
anti-vaxxers were convicted
of a criminal plot
to destroy 5G towers.
My family believes the end is near, a Redditor wrote on a QAnon casualties subreddit where people can commiserate.
According to my father, on October the 4th at 2 p.m., the government is going to use the emergency broadcast system to play a frequency that will activate the RFID chips in vaccinated people and trigger the beginning of the Great Replacement.
Yikes. The great replacement
is like straight up fucking like...
That's just straight racist. That's straight racist
talk. Also like an RFID
chip is not something that can be
activated. It's something that is found.
Yeah. Like you have an RFID chip in
your credit card.
Yeah. The machine
finds the chip. It's a perfect
example too because the finder,
it doesn't just find it in my wallet.
I've got to bring it
very close to it.
In fact,
I've got to do it like on it
in order for it to do something.
Right.
It can't,
like I,
if I hold it against
the wrong part of the machine
and this happens to me all the time
because they don't,
they don't actually
like label it really well
here in the States.
Sometimes you're like,
they're like tap to pay
and I'm like tapping
in different places.
Like I'm fucking dubbing this thing
sir fucking mix a lot.
I'm like, come on,
will you fucking please
take the thing?
And nothing works
because it's got to be
super close to it all the time.
You're absolutely right.
It's not like it's just like
in my pocket and it can tell.
And like your credit card
didn't get active. Nothing And like your credit card didn't get activated.
Nothing went to your credit card.
This thing read your credit card.
Yeah.
So like even if I had tiny little nanoparticular RFID chips,
like all anything could do would be to read them.
It couldn't activate them.
They're not, that's not what RFID does. Everything about this
is just structurally stupid. But the problem is that they just won't learn from it, right?
No, they won't learn anything. They said a bunch of garbage. They vomited a bunch of garbage out.
And then tomorrow, they'll be like, yeah, there's probably zombies, but the media just didn't cover
it. But there was probably zombies. Probably, yeah. I mean, I would imagine that's going to be their answer.
If you go to talk to some of these people and say,
so what about the fucking FEMA call the other day?
Did anything happen to anybody you know?
No, but I heard a friend of a friend or whatever.
And they're just going to find
how they can still believe it somehow.
Right, yeah.
It's the same thing with every time
like any famous athlete or something dies.
They're like, oh, see, COVID vaccine.
And you're like, yeah, man,
but like a billion,
several billion people have gotten COVID vaccines.
Several billion of us have gotten COVID vaccines.
Some of us, many COVID vaccines.
So like one person having a heart attack
while playing a vigorous sport
is not evidence that like the billions of us so like one person having a heart attack while playing a vigorous sport yeah
is not evidence
that like
the billions of us
that got this thing
are going to drop like flies
any minute
they keep waiting
like
they're all going to like
be like
the last one standing
in some Twilight Zone episode
where their glasses break
they think it's a fucking rapture
yeah
yeah
they're hoping
alright that's going to wrap it up for this week They're hoping.
All right, that's going to wrap it up for this week.
This upcoming week, we are going to have a long-form article that Tom already read for patrons.
You can check it out if you're a patron.
Long-form article about Clarence Thomas
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So you're going to want to check that out
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We'll be back on Monday with another show.
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I am going to be out of town,
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like around Thanksgiving or something.
Yeah, probably.
Maybe the week before or something.
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