Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 731: Goodbye Kissinger, Musk Meltdown, Homeschool Woes

Episode Date: December 4, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode of Cognitive Dissonance is brought to you by our patrons. You fucking rock. Be advised that this show is not for children, the faint of heart, or the easily offended. The explicit tag is there for a reason. We're recording live from Glory Hole Studios in Chicago and beyond. This is Cognitive Dissonance. Every episode we blast anyone who gets in our way. We bring critical thinking, skepticism, and irreverence to any topic that makes the news, makes it big, or makes us mad. It's skeptical, it's political, and there is no welcome mat. Today is Thursday, November the 30th, Cecil. Yeah, and this upcoming week,
Starting point is 00:01:08 I don't know if anybody who watched it before, I had a few people show up last time I streamed video games. And the video game that I was playing, this Path of Exile is releasing a new season this upcoming December the 8th. And so I am planning on streaming for a couple days at least. And now that I'm not working, Tom, who knows how long that will last.
Starting point is 00:01:30 I have no idea. I am picturing you like, you're fucking like, just like a shirt covered in Cheetos dust, like a pile of Mountain Dew bottles all around you. That's what I know. I just don't turn the camera on.
Starting point is 00:01:40 That's normally it, but I just don't turn. So I will be turning the camera on. We'll be interacting. Last time was a lot of fun. People came by and we did, you know, I was playing the game and people weren't talking about the game, but then we just started bullshitting about other stuff. So we talked about like politics and then people were talking about food. And so we were talking about food for a while and it was fun. It was just like, it's kind of really back and forth because they're
Starting point is 00:02:00 watching and also talking to me and I get a chance to see it. I'm going to try to set it all up this week and go live on the 8th. So if you follow Path of Exile, you'll know when it goes live. Check it out and come to the Twitch, twitch.com slash DissonancePod. So I got a question. Are you excited about this particular release?
Starting point is 00:02:19 That's why I'm doing it. So like one of the reasons why I'm doing it is because the one I did before, there was like big changes and everybody's like, oh, it's going to be amazing. And then it sucked so bad. That's what you said.
Starting point is 00:02:29 That's why I was like, oh, now I'm like, they do the same thing. They're like, it's going to be big changes. And I'm like, oh, so it might be three days. I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:02:34 nope, that's enough of that. And then I quit. So we'll see what happens, but it'll be fun, at least for three days. You know, I'm probably going to go through the weekend.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I'm going to be going for, you know, like I say, on Friday, Saturday, probably Sunday. And then we'll see if it works its way into the weekend. I'm going to be going for, you know, like I say, on Friday, Saturday, probably Sunday. And then we'll see if it works its way into the weekend. I know I have writing to do that weekend for presentation need. It's always busy. But I'll also try to be streaming when I can. So come check it out if you're interested. All right. Follow-up question. Sorry. One more follow-up question. What is your snack chip of choice? Because I don't think it's Cheetos. It's not. My snack
Starting point is 00:03:02 chip of choice is spicy Doritos. That's good. Spicy Doritos are fucking money, dude. The green ones, the Verde, salsa Verde. Are those still around? Once in a while. I never see those. Dude, those are so good. Snatch, snatch. You grab like six bags and then you run out with them. You don't even pay. You just run as fast as you can like a looter. You're just like, no, these are mine and it's fine. It's like it's fucking Thanksgiving day at fucking Walmart. You're just like, no, these are mine and it's fine. It's like it's fucking Thanksgiving Day at fucking Walmart. And you're just like, I'm out of here. Just full of turkeys on your back.
Starting point is 00:03:29 You're throwing fucking like people, the old lady who checks your receipt, you're like, get out of the way. Get out of the way. Boom. Fucking Marshawn Lynch. You just drive your shoulder right through her. God, if I saw those green Doritos, delicious.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I really enjoy those. What's yours? Voodoo pretzels. I'm the, Voodoo, so do you know the, have you had the Voodoo chips? They have a Voodoo potato chip.
Starting point is 00:03:53 It's like a New Orleans style chip. Yeah. Covered in like some kind of delicious, kind of spicy New Orleans-y seasoning. The chips are good. I'll look for the pretzels. But they make the pretzels thick. I'll look for it.
Starting point is 00:04:03 And the pretzel holds 40% more of that dust. It holds so much. It's just full of dust. You know that flavor dust that is like, certainly like gives you mesothelioma or something? Oh yeah, absolutely. You're going to die very young of that. You open the bag, you inhale it,
Starting point is 00:04:17 and it's like, it's in you now. It's in you. They're hard to find. So like when I find them, I buy, like I'll text Haley. I'll be like, well, Mariano's had voodoo chips. Had? But I was like, operative word is buy like i'll text hayley i'll be like well mariano's had voodoo chair but i was like operative word is had i'll buy 12 bags if there's 12 bags i'm like i'm just taking them all what's gonna be great because if we if we go to the same store and i get there
Starting point is 00:04:34 before you oh you'll rob it you'll rob it and rate it oh it'd be the best they're so good they're so good i'll give them a try that sounds my kids love them now too like they're and like i'm so now i hide i'll look for them yeah Yeah, that's great. They're great. Tom. Yeah. He's dead. Henry Kissinger. Henry Kissinger is dead.
Starting point is 00:04:57 For just a second, I misheard you. I thought you said Heath's dead. I was like, this is how you tell me? That's rough, man. No, no, no. We just say dead. Heath's cheering that Henry Kissinger is dead. I was like, this is how you tell me? That's rough, man. We just ate dinner. He's cheering
Starting point is 00:05:07 that Henry Kissinger is dead. Henry Kissinger is dead. Henry Kissinger is dead. Long live Jimmy Carter. Isn't it great, though, that Jimmy Carter gets to be like, maybe I get to go to two funerals this week. It is fucking great news because Henry Kissinger is a fucking historical monster yeah an absolute
Starting point is 00:05:28 like a historical monster and what i found so like incomprehensible is that his monstrousness has been like well documented and well known sure and for decades he's still been like a darling of state absolutely and i don't understand that. And many major Democratic and Republican politicians speak of him so highly. So highly. But he, I mean, he normalized not going to Congress and, you know, authorizing shit with secret bombings and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Like now we did. Now that's just what we do, right? So like, we don't have to be at war with you to fuck you up. Like we don't, we do't have to be at war with you to fuck you up. Like we don't, we do that right now. Right. But that wasn't the norm back then.
Starting point is 00:06:09 No, that wasn't the thing. Right. They were like, no, Congress has to do this shit. And they were just like, and that actually got brought up.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I'm sorry, but Congress actually is less likely to do it. And they're just like, oh, that's a barrier we can break. Yeah, exactly. And then they did.
Starting point is 00:06:22 And then it's like secret bombings for years. Just really horrible, horrible stuff. Cambodia. Objectively prolonged the Vietnam War. Yeah, you're right. He had an opportunity
Starting point is 00:06:33 to end it. Henry Kissinger intentionally thwarted attempts, thwarted the end of the Vietnam War in order for him to ensconce himself
Starting point is 00:06:42 in personal position of a power and authority. Get peace prize for it. I don't understand. How does it even work? That's like fixing the lotto, man. I know. How do you do that?
Starting point is 00:06:53 That's like murdering somebody and then showing up at their funeral and being like, my condolences. And you're like, and then somebody's like, isn't it so nice that they came to the funeral? And then they give you the funeral award. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:07:04 What the fuck? They give you like a gold casket. You walk out with all the good hot luck extras. You gave the best obituary so they give you the golden crock pot or whatever. A hundred percent at every funeral, there should be a golden casket. Like an award?
Starting point is 00:07:19 The golden casket award? The caskies? Tom, you have to do that when I go. Same, same. Okay, golden casket award. Same, caskies. Yeah, the caskies. The caskies.
Starting point is 00:07:24 And here's the thing. Everybody's got to get up and say something, and then it's going to be snaps to see who gets it. Oh, yes. Yes, we'll have like one of those like volume meters. Oh, perfect. And whoever gets the most snaps. Whoever gets the most snaps.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Yeah, whoever gets the most snaps. See, I'm going to lose because I can only snap with my right hand. My left hand, I just do this. If you ever watch me do it, I go, and my left hand, I just do this. You're just waving it around. It doesn't do anything. This is a shitty hand. It doesn't, yeah. You got to waving it around. It doesn't do anything. This is a shitty hand.
Starting point is 00:07:45 You got to do it fast. Be like, oh, there you go. Oh, dude, the golden caskets. The caskets. Oh, man. I'll tell you what. This guy wouldn't get one. He would not get the casket.
Starting point is 00:07:55 He should have gotten beaten. The death was one year ago. Are you kidding me? Everybody was talking about him. Tom, I have to have you read. Have you seen Anthony Bourdain's tweet about him? No. Oh, you got to read it aloud.
Starting point is 00:08:06 It's the best. Anthony Bourdain? Anthony Bourdain. It's not a tweet. It's a quote from his book. Okay. And it's amazing. While you find that, what confuses me about Kissinger is that, like, it is very easy to find so many sources about how fucking evil he is and all the horrible shit that he did.
Starting point is 00:08:26 And so part of me is like, wait a minute, how can all that stuff be true? And still, like you said, like he gets a peace prize and he's this like darling of state, but internationally beloved. And I'm just like, what am I missing? Did I just read all the wrong histories? Yeah, man. Okay, here you go, Tom. So go ahead and read it. All right, so he said, once you've been to Cambodia, you'll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands.
Starting point is 00:08:52 He wrote in a cook's tour in his 2001 memoir. Witness what Henry did in Cambodia, the fruits of his genius for statesmanship, and you will never understand why he's not sitting in the dock at the Hague next to Slobodan Milosevic. While Henry continues to nibble nori rolls and ramaki at A-list
Starting point is 00:09:09 parties, Cambodia, the neutral nation he secretly and illegally bombed, invaded, undermined, and then threw to the dogs, is still trying to raise itself up on its one remaining leg. God, he was such a good writer. Yeah, he's such a good writer. Such a good writer. And genuinely, like,
Starting point is 00:09:25 everybody feels this way about him right I mean not everybody but most people feel this way about him right
Starting point is 00:09:31 most people feel like you you you scroll through the online universe and there was genuine celebration when he died
Starting point is 00:09:40 like there was a bunch of people being like good he's fucking dead good that guy sucked I can't believe he lived to 100 hundred. He sucks so bad. And there's so many people. And yeah, there's going to be people on the right who are awful, who, you know, don't give a shit about other human beings that are like, no man, fuck those people. Like we should have done exactly what he did. And he did everything for America, et cetera, et cetera, whatever. I mean, this is a
Starting point is 00:10:01 guy who's like talking to Nixon and Nixon's like, fuck those Jews. And he's like, well, there's good Jews and bad Jews, Nixon. Like, I mean, seriously, like, it's like, what the sweet fuck, man? This guy was awful. He was a genuinely bad person. And he's dead now and good. Yeah, good.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Good, he's fucking dead. Like, and shame on all of the people who embraced his statesmanship. Yeah, man. Who embraced his like terror as statesmanship. And I don't want to call it statesmanship. And that line, that line includes Obama. That line includes Hillary Clinton. Yeah. That line. I mean, that line includes some people who you, you're like, you're like, what the fuck, man? Why, why would we say, and that guy's going to get, he'll get a private service, but other people
Starting point is 00:10:42 talking about him for a while about how great he is. You'll see it in the media. The only fucking critical story I could find today was from Rolling Stone. All the rest of them were like statesman dies in 100. I read the Post article about it. I read the Wall Street Journal article about it. And I read the Times article about it. So those are the three I read. And I was like, because I thought the same thing.
Starting point is 00:11:02 I'm like, there's going to be at least something critical here. And there was essentially no critical. Yeah,. And I was like, cause I thought the same thing. I'm like fucking kid. There's going to be at least something critical here. And like, there was essentially no critical, nothing like really, really fucking Kissinger. We're just like, I, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:12 the, the, the writing is like, you know, so many people of such importance have relied on his counsel and guidance. And I'm like, that was the problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:19 That's why we're, he manipulated these other people and like gave them far more authority than they ever should have had. You know, every single, like from the moment he had the opportunity to end the fucking war in Vietnam and didn't. Yeah. Every death thereafter is his exclusively.
Starting point is 00:11:35 And then it's like Cambodia. Oh yeah. And then Bangladesh. And then, I mean, there's just so many, East Timor. There's just like so many things. Pinochet. There's so many things that he contributed to that he was part of
Starting point is 00:11:47 that you're just like, fuck that guy forever. Forever. Forever. And the only article I found that was critical of him was from Rolling Stone. It's a Henry Kissinger war criminal beloved by America's ruling class finally dies. That's how it should be written, right? That's how it should be written. It? That's how it should be written. It's a long article.
Starting point is 00:12:06 It's a good article, though. If you can get past their labyrinthian system of how often they check to see how often you read their articles, feel free to read it because it's very good. Rolling Stone is like that.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I know, man. I haven't looked at an article in the requisite time. I don't know. And then you got to open it up in a weird fucking Rube Goldberg series fucking browser
Starting point is 00:12:27 in order to see it. That happened because it's Christmas Eve. I'm telling you. I'm not crazy. Elon Musk. Okay. Tell me this, Cecil.
Starting point is 00:12:37 How imploding, on a scale from one to supernova, how imploding is Elon Musk? So I want to play the video of this. It's fucking insane. Right? He's losing his fucking mind. Let me play the video of this. And the? So I want to play the video of this. It's fucking, he's losing his fucking mind. Let me play the video of this. And the reason why I
Starting point is 00:12:48 want to play the video of this and play the audio of this, and Tom, I want to play it first all the way through. It's only like 40 seconds. And then I want to play it again and talk about it. Afterwards, I'll try to describe to the audience that isn't watching what's actually happening on the screen. But genuinely, let me call it up first. But genuinely, and I mean this, he's unhinged. Like he's unhinged. And when you watch it, you see it.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Well, real quick, you can tell how unhinged he's becoming by the weirdness of his facial hair. His facial hair choices right now. It changes. These are not rational, good people. He's got evil facial hair. His facial hair choices right now. It changes. These are not rational good people. He's got evil facial hair. You're 100% right.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Like genuine villain facial hair right now. You're 100% right. So I'm going to play this. Now this is a clip of him. He's at the New York Times Dealbook Summit and he is just on stage getting interviewed by
Starting point is 00:13:42 somebody from the New York Times. So here we go. I'm just going to play it and then we'll talk about it. Apology tour, if you will. This had been said online. There was all of the criticism. There was advertisers leaving. We talked to Bob Iger today.
Starting point is 00:13:55 I hope they stop. You hope? Don't advertise. You don't want them to advertise? No. What do you mean? If somebody's going to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with money, go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 00:14:12 But. Go fuck yourself. Is that clear? I hope it is. Hey, Bob, if you're in the audience. Well, let me ask you then that's how i feel don't advertise so much talk so there's a lot to talk about but i want to i want to set the stage for everybody who's just listened to that so what he's talking about and if you if you follow anything about
Starting point is 00:14:37 twitter you know that we talked about last week that they were pulling uh a bunch of advertisers pulled out because their stuff was appearing their Their advertisements were appearing near Nazi tweets and racist tweets and shitty tweets and stuff that shouldn't be on a platform where you're paying money for someone else to see your product. Right. Most products would be like, fuck that, I'm out. And that's what they did. They left. When he mentions Bob here, he's talking about Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney. And so that's what happened. Disney was like, fuck that, we out. And they left. And he is on stage in a weird bomber jacket with dog tags. And he is staring out at the audience. And one thing I want to bring people's attention to that are watching, and I want to mention to the people who aren't, is that every time he says
Starting point is 00:15:25 something, he throws his head at the audience like he's waiting for a reaction. But this isn't Twitter. This isn't like, you're not going to tweet something and a bunch of people will be like, oh, Elon, God, or whatever, right? They're not going to suck your dick. They're watching you and they're horrified because you're among a bunch of normal humans that are like, that's a terrible business strategy. I don't even understand why you would say that. That seems really stupid. And you know, no, it's not blackmailing you with money. They're paying you for a slot. And if your slot is gross, they don't want it. Like that's not blackmail. Like what's blackmail about that? That doesn't even make any sense. So, so I want to just mention his actions and how he's acting when we go through it again. Yeah. And like, I think
Starting point is 00:16:09 it's really, I think it's really important and telling that he uses that idea of blackmail, right? Because blackmail prevents you from doing something you'd want to do. Yeah. Right. So if I am getting blackmailed or extorted or whatever with money in order to, you got to stop doing the, this means he wants to continue placing advertisements on Nazi shit. That's what he's saying. He's like saying, I'm not, if you think that
Starting point is 00:16:35 I'm going to stop doing this fucking evil Nazi adjacent promotional fucking advertising shit, you're going to stop me because we had an issue. You and I kind of had an issue where we talked about it a couple of weeks ago where we had a listener write in
Starting point is 00:16:51 and a listener wrote in and basically said like, hey, if you don't talk about this topic I want you to talk about, I'm not going to send you money. And you and I were both very much like, that's not how this works. Don't send us money, right? We're going to still do the thing we want to do.
Starting point is 00:17:04 I can't be blackmailed into doing or not doing something what's important about this is he's saying the same thing the difference is the thing that he wants to do is to promote nazi and racist causes yeah that's what he's saying that's what he's saying no to his fucking big like flex here is like i'll do all the the Nazi shit I want to do. What it is is, you know, and let's try, I'll try to be charitable to his argument, which is I believe that there needs to be
Starting point is 00:17:34 unlimited free speech online. And you're like, cool. Then people who advertise with you are using their free speech to decide whether or not they want to put what they want out there. That's how this works. But he takes it as offense when they do this. I don't know if you remember last week, he talked about it. He called media matters, pure evil, because they were pointing these things out. He doesn't care about that. What he cares about is getting
Starting point is 00:17:59 his fucking way because that's literally how he spends his entire charmed existence is getting his way. He looks at a bunch of people and he, I mean, look at it. Look at the X name changeover. I know. Look at it, but look at how it happened. He's texting developers, change tax. What do you mean? Change what to X? And they're like, change it to X. You need to change tax or you're fired. Like, cause that's how he's used to talking to people. So when the audience doesn't immediately erupt in cheers, he's floundering up there when there's absolute silence
Starting point is 00:18:29 with go fuck yourself. He's floundering up there. And then he's, but every time he says something, he's like, good. And he keeps on moving his head and he's moving his head
Starting point is 00:18:37 because he's like expecting there to be this like eruption of cheers, but it's not going to happen because what you're saying doesn't make any sense to anyone who is a normal person. And you know what? I'll be honest. If you look at this thread that I pulled this up from, all these people on Twitter are absolutely praising him for
Starting point is 00:18:55 this, but all these people on Twitter are unemployed. So it's like, yeah, sure. Yeah. I mean, we know how far this has gotten you. Right. Well, look, here's the thing. If you're still on Twitter and you're enjoying Twitter at, well, look, here's the thing. If you're still on Twitter and you're enjoying Twitter at this point, you've stayed for the racism, right? Twitter has lost half of its value. So when he bought Twitter for 44 billion, Twitter is now valued at somewhere around 20 some billion.
Starting point is 00:19:19 He's basically like lost 40 to 50% of the value. You've run that thing into the ground. If Disney and all the rest of them stay away, he'll bankrupt his own company. Absolutely. And he's said as much. He's like, yeah, I'll fucking bankrupt this company. There's a, and here,
Starting point is 00:19:32 there's a couple of important things here. Like one, he's not a free speech absolutist and he's never was. Never was, no. So this is not a principled stance. This isn't something he does. He just doesn't like getting caught. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:43 This is a guy who doesn't like being told what to do. He's the guy who tells you what to do. And like, let's be blunt too. He can ruin Twitter and he'll still be rich.
Starting point is 00:19:52 He's going to be fine. You know? Like, because once you have a certain number of billions of, you only need $1 billion to be unbelievably, impossibly,
Starting point is 00:20:02 irreconcilably, immorally rich. You need far less than that, but you're right. Right. Yeah. So, irreconcilably, immorally rich. You need far less than that, but you're right. Right. So, and he's worth, he was worth at one point, $200 billion. So if he loses 40 or $50 billion. Whatever, man. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:20:16 Like, so in his mind, it's like. It's a lot of money to somebody. It's a lot of money to everybody on the planet. It's more money than some people have in their entire net worth. It's more money than many GDPs. But it doesn't matter because he still has, you know, he than some people have in their entire net worth. It's more money than many GDPs. But it doesn't matter because he still has, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:28 he only lost a quarter of his money. Yeah, well, and that's the thing too is that like, if I lose a quarter of my money, it's a way bigger deal than if he loses a quarter of his.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Sure, because you use your money. Right. So, like, at a certain point, the amount of money you have stops making rational sense. I mean, it doesn't even make any sense.
Starting point is 00:20:41 He could literally have anything he wants ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. Right. He literally has a fucking project to fucking send shit up into space.
Starting point is 00:20:49 He's got the biggest fucking erector set slash fucking, you know, like rocket set that anybody's ever had. Like, he's got that. That's his.
Starting point is 00:20:58 And he can do whatever he wants with it. He's got his own little model car track in Tesla. He could do whatever he wants with it. He's got,
Starting point is 00:21:04 he's like a little kid. And the problem is is that a bunch of people thought he was a savvy businessman but man listen to the guy speak look at how he's acting he is 100 looking for a laugh he's out he's out for the lulls well the lulls cost you 40 billion dollars yeah congratulations they cost him 40 billion dollars and they they cost him a lot of goodwill. Yeah. And they hopefully will ruin this stupid platform full of racists.
Starting point is 00:21:29 That'd be kind of great. That'd be great. I hope it ruins it for billionaires, period. I hope he ruins it for billionaires in general. I hope billionaires in general hide away from now on and
Starting point is 00:21:37 stop getting involved in big messy projects like this. Dude, I hope so too. I hope they're just like, look, it's enough for me to be immorally well. Immorally rich. You know, that's it. But like this. Dude, I hope so too. I hope they're just like, look, it's enough for me to be immorally well. Immorally rich. You know, that's it.
Starting point is 00:21:47 But like, this fucking guy is the least charismatic, the least like read the room savvy person. I've never seen anybody, I remember thinking of like when he walked in
Starting point is 00:21:58 with the kitchen sink. Yeah. To Twitter or whatever. He walked in when he bought it. He's just like so fucking horrifyingly awkward. Yeah, let the sink in or something. Let walked in when he bought it. He's just like so fucking horrifyingly awkward. Yeah, let this sink in or something.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Let that sink in. Yeah. I bought Twitter. Let that sink in. Right. He's the worst. He's so uncharismatic. And I also want to say
Starting point is 00:22:15 he looks terrible. He looks sick. He does look sick. He looks genuinely... Guys, I did not see... I've not seen Elon Musk in forever.
Starting point is 00:22:23 He does look sick. He looks sick. He looks unwell. He looks like there's something wrong with him. But I think that's like, I wonder too, if this genuinely might hurt him. If it does, if like losing like this hurts him personally, like mentally, you know, I wonder if losing like this,
Starting point is 00:22:41 even if he's not losing his money and even if he's going to be fine and all the rest of his descendants and all the rest of like a small country, if they were his descendants would be fine. He's still, I think like, like, I think it might be bothering him. And it looks like, I mean, when you look at him, you're like, yeah, no, maybe it is. Maybe it's getting to him. Maybe. And we talked about this a little bit before, but there's a, you know, when we start concentrating wealth, the way that we've concentrated wealth, we also concentrate power.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Yeah. And, you know, one of the major problems is like, you can easily concentrate wealth and then concentrate power into the hands of a deeply unwell oligarch.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah. You know, history is rife with insane kings, right? Yeah, man. There's like, if you want to do a fucking
Starting point is 00:23:24 Citation Needed episode about kings that right? Yeah, man. There's like, if you want to do a fucking Citation Needed episode about kings that were genuinely insane, it would take you more than the six pages we have to write. Yeah, you wouldn't be able to do it in one episode.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Right, if we want. So, and I do look and I'm like, yeah, there's really no reason to think that our current oligarch system will not produce
Starting point is 00:23:41 fantastically powerful, deeply unwell people. And that should scare us, right? Because he's not not powerful. That's a lie. I've done it six more times. All right, so this story is from Newsweek. Here's a headline.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Donald Trump says he never swore an oath to support the Constitution. Support is the key word. Support is the key word. Support is the key word. He says he never swore an oath to support the Constitution. Support is the key word. Support is the key word. Support is the key word. He says he never swore an oath to support the Constitution, even though his oath instead- Like preserve and protect? It's in the Boing Boing article here, the next one.
Starting point is 00:24:18 He actually said, I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of the president of the United States and to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the constitution. But he never actually said that he would support it. Well, that's a distinction without a fucking difference. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. Man, when your insurrection argument, when you're like, hey,
Starting point is 00:24:46 look, my January 6th insurrection argument is based on a unbelievably thin parsing of the words. Yeah. And you're like, but I didn't say the word support when I said I would preserve, defend,
Starting point is 00:25:02 and whatever. So it's protect, preserve, and defend. Yeah. You're not allowed to support in there? It's implied. I mean, right? It's fucking implied. Right? It's implied. Why do we have to do this? Why do we, like, I hate that. It's like, well, technically, get the fuck
Starting point is 00:25:18 out of here with that shit. I don't think. I want to hold your head in a toilet. I want to treat you like a bully treated the kid in high school. That's what I want to hold your head in a toilet. I want to treat you like a bully treated the kid in high school. That's what I want to fucking, I want to wedgie you and then put it over your eyes. I want to just fucking, I just want to pour fucking milk in your hair. I want to fuck you up like a fucking high school bully when you say that. Dude, for fucking real.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Like, this is like, you were like, well, I never said I would support the conscience. Like, okay, all right. I fucking hate you. I hate you so much. You know. You fucking like, this wouldn't,
Starting point is 00:25:54 if my kids tried to like, well, technically you said, blah, blah, blah. That's why. I'd be like, you fucking understood and you're grounded. You knew what I said.
Starting point is 00:26:01 You're fucking grounded. You fucking knew what I said. Yeah, you knew what I said. Nobody else in the world and nobody else in the whole world would be able to pull this shit. I don't think the courts are going to pull it either. Like, I do think part of the argument right now is whether or not he can be on these ballots and whether or not, you know, the amendment, the post-reconstruction amendments really apply to why they wouldn't apply to them is that the constitutional amendment specifically outlines certain parts of government and explicitly seems to exclude the president. So that to me is a reasonable argument. Sure, there's an argument to be made there.
Starting point is 00:26:36 You're looking at a framers argument. Someone didn't put it in here, therefore it shouldn't be. Shouldn't be in here. It's not implied to be in here. We made that decision. They made that decision back then. They could have done it differently, and they didn't.
Starting point is 00:26:47 And they didn't. And so like, okay, if that's, but this support, if you're hinging on support, I can't even believe anybody would write that down because you're basically saying like, well, I don't support the Constitution. Never said I would.
Starting point is 00:27:00 What is so great is- But I did somehow not support it and preserve and defend it. This fucking writes itself to fucking fight against this guy going in the office, be like, he won't support the constitution. He wrote it down. He literally said, I never said I would support the constitution. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:17 For fucking real. For fucking real. How are you a Trump supporter? And like one of these fucking rabid, ultra patriotic nationalists, which I don't believe you are, right? Like you're just a fucking cult of personality is. Yeah. But like you believe you're fucking, you got your fucking truck nuts and your giant flag in your front yard and you know, all your fucking shit and your dumb ass fucking America regalia everywhere. And you're like, well, he never said support.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I ain't got them liberals there. He never said that word support. He can do all the insurrections he wants. I think that's it. I think they're- That's your insurrection, get out of jail free card. They don't care because what they care about is making you mad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And they care about it. And that's literally what they said they wanted in a candidate, Tom. That's what like 70% of them said. If he makes the other people upset, that makes me feel good. And so they don't care. They can't parse this argument out because they don't give a shit. That's true.
Starting point is 00:28:14 What they care about is you're mad about it. Right. And you're like, oh, good. He's mad about it. Well, then I don't care what it says. I literally don't care. I don't care. I don't care if he lights me on fire after he wins, as long as you're mad.
Starting point is 00:28:25 As long as you're mad about it. Yeah. I mean, he could literally take everything as his own. Like fucking prima nocta. He could just do whatever he wants. And I don't give a shit because it made you mad. Okay. So I got to ask you this question.
Starting point is 00:28:37 It's kind of a follow-up. Like, because I was just thinking, it never used to be like this, right? It used to be that like, sure, there were Democrats, there were Republicans, there were strong opinions on both sides. There were deeply like social issue opinions. There were, there were, there really value opinions on both sides. It was always the case, right? That has always been the case, but it has never been the case where one side is just like, you know what? My primary value is to hurt you. It's not that we disagree.
Starting point is 00:29:06 We have a values difference. And I have a vision for the world that isn't in keeping with your vision. I think your vision's fucked up. You think my vision's fucked up. But now it's like, I just want to hurt the other guy. I want there to be an other that can be hurt. And so I think that's new. And I'm wondering, do you think that you could,
Starting point is 00:29:23 in any circumstance, be close with or friends with somebody who was a MAGA person? No. Is there any possibility? No, no. I can't either, man. I'm reminded of a friend I had when I went to culinary school
Starting point is 00:29:40 and we had met in culinary school and he was a great guy. He just was very far right libertarian at the time. He was a libertarian. That's what he identified himself as, a libertarian. And he was very like pro McCain when McCain was running. I didn't talk to him when, I was talking to him when Romney ran and lost,
Starting point is 00:30:03 but I never talked to him. I stopped talking to him before Trump came into office. So I stopped talking to him before then. Yeah. But like before then we always, we argued and we disagreed, but I never, I never felt like he thought I was a bad person or he would be happy if I wasn't, if I wasn't happy. If I was unhappy, he wouldn't get joy from that. He was a genuinely nice guy. He just had very different views than I did. But he was also really socially liberal.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Like he was a Chicago guy who's like, you know, didn't care about, you know, any sexual orientation or gender identity stuff. He didn't care at all. He didn't, like all the things that you would think about a social liberal, he was that. He just happened to be very fiscally conservative.
Starting point is 00:30:52 And so he voted for a lot of fiscally conservative people. And I was arguing with him and said, like, you're voting for the wrong people because like that money stuff's going to work itself out either way. It's the social issues are the big real problems. Those are the real issues because those are the things that, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:08 decide whether or not as someone is as human as you. And, you know, like, and I think, and I think in some ways you could say, like, I could say,
Starting point is 00:31:15 oh, he seemed that, but he definitely had a value judgment when he went to the polls. He had a value judgment that they were less than him because he didn't vote. He didn't choose to protect. He didn't vote to, you know, because back then, like it was before like gay marriage was recognized. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:30 So he's voting against the interests of those people, even though he, you know, is fine, might even have gay friends, whatever. But it never occurred to him. Because it benefits his financial interest. Yeah, it never occurred to him that that was damaging other people. Right. And I wonder too is if it's if, if it's, if it's, if it's been something that has come to our sort of consciousness that these social issues are so
Starting point is 00:31:53 important because they are damaging other humans. And we threw that under the rug for a long time and we didn't pay attention to it. And we didn't follow that. And we didn't, we didn't use that as a, as a rallying cry. Instead, it was all about what you were saying, which is like, oh, well, how much money should we put towards the arts or whatever? And I wonder if now people are just so sick of that being the secondary conversation
Starting point is 00:32:18 that people are upset on the other side because they kind of have to look in the mirror and be like, no, I really am not for gay rights. Yeah, I think there's something there for sure. I think there's a, but on the right, there seems to be no desire to discuss any substantive issue at all. No, you're right. You know, like I can't think of anything of, like, again, I come back to like in 2020,
Starting point is 00:32:41 they didn't even bother to have a platform. Yeah. In 2020, their platform was just this reelect Trump. That was the whole platform for the Republican Party. You ever heard the saying, hurt people hurt people? Yeah. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I wonder if they're hurt because it's being pointed out that they think less of other people and that hurts them. And so now they're happy when you're hurt. You know what I mean? Like, so they're retaliating because they're feeling this sort of cognitive dissonance and this pressure and this feeling that other people are saying. Because I don't know if you remember
Starting point is 00:33:16 when we read that with fragility, one of the worst things that people feel is feel as if you're a racist. They don't want to feel like they're a racist, right? They get really upset when someone thinks you're a racist. They don't want to feel like they're a racist, right? They get really upset when someone thinks they're a racist. And so it's like the worst thing that could possibly be thought of you. And the whole conceit of the book
Starting point is 00:33:35 is you need to realize that you're probably racist, but you need to work every day to not be racist. But in that case, I feel like, I wonder if there's this pushback and they're looking to hurt other people because they're hurt that other people are saying, Hey man, you're hurting other people. And they don't want to face that reality. I don't know if I'm saying that correctly. I understand what you're saying. I'm just trying, like, like you're saying that and I hear that. And then in my mind, I'm picturing Lauren Boebert or Mar know, I'm not, or Marjorie Taylor Greene. Sure, sure. Or like Matt Gaetz. Yeah, it feels like you're, it feels like you're picking a Frankenstein monster
Starting point is 00:34:10 when you should be picking a normal person. Yeah. I feel like you're picking a, you're picking a monster on purpose. And I think we need to think about other people. Think about Mitt Romney.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Yeah. You know? Mitt Romney is an interesting example. But like, I don't think Mitt Romney wants to just hurt people as his primary like goal. He doesn't want to like, because like what I'm trying to square, the piece I'm trying to square is the people who their primary objective is to hurt the lips.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Yeah, yeah. And I don't think that's a Romney type guy. No, you're right. It's a MAGA thing. It's a MAGA thing. It's a MAGA thing. So that's kind of why I went to the MAGA crowd. So yeah, no, you got to go to the genetically engineered MAGA.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Right. Yeah. It's like, and I'm trying to think like, there's a guy I worked with for a while that like, he seemed like a nice guy in the sense that he was funny and he was like easy to get along with. Right. But he was like pretty far, far right. And like he and I would have these conversations about politics.
Starting point is 00:35:04 And I feel like once he voted for Trump and once he voted for Trump the second time, I realized like, fuck, you're just like a bad person. Like, yeah, like you'll smile and you're easy to get along with. But at the end of the day, like you're a bad person. I don't know that he wanted to see me hurting though. Do you know what I mean? This like crowd that's like, see me hurting, though. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. This, like, crowd that's like, sign me up for you hurt.
Starting point is 00:35:28 That's the part that I'm like, holy fuck, man. But it's also 70% or something like that. Yeah, I know. It's a crazy number. That's so much. I'm not denying that piece. I'm just like, that's actually hard to wrap my head around. Yeah. It's funny that you say that because I don't want to see those guys hurt. Yeah. I don't.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Oh, and that's the thing is like I feel like throughout my entire voting career, I just, I tried to lessen the hurt as often as possible on everyone. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:51 On everyone in general. Whether or not you agree with this economic policy, they're not going to be hurting you. Right. You know what I mean? Like the worst thing that'll happen is
Starting point is 00:35:58 if you're ultra rich, they're going to take some of your money or something. Right. But that's not hurting you. You're rich. You're still rich. You can afford it.
Starting point is 00:36:04 You're okay. Yeah. You're rich at the end of the day. Yeah. No matter how, like not hurting you. You're rich. You're still rich. You can afford it. You're okay. You're rich at the end of the day, no matter how, like, oh, I'm like 11 rich units instead of 13 rich units. But the opposite is not true. The opposite is like they're taking away important programs
Starting point is 00:36:16 that could be that safety net that can get you to come out of poverty instead of just keep it. It's like the worst. It's like the exact opposite. It's the exact opposite. People find the Bible obtuse, even hokey. All right, this story comes from the friendly atheist. Pennsylvania lawmaker cites Genesis 8 as proof that climate change isn't real. All right, so let's watch it. It's on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:36:38 When Democrats are pushing bills like banning gas-powered mowers and gas-powered stoves in New York City, all under the name of a climate control agenda, we can all see what is really going on here. The truth is, in Genesis 8.22, it says, as long as the earth endures, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease. I'll say that again. We'll never cease. Of course, we are to be good stewards of God's creation, but not through a forceful climate control global agenda. I'm a no. Thank you, Chairman. What she's voting on is like a climate week, man. She's voting on a fucking climate week on whether or not we're going to be like,
Starting point is 00:37:25 hey, you know, this one week of the year, let's just pay attention to the climate a little. How's that sound? Good? You should have heard her vociferous arguments against Shark Week. She was not in favor of Shark Week. She was like, it was not of the kinds that were on the ark. Not interested in shark week i want shell-less turtle week fuck out here you weak ass shit god it's so that's such it's such
Starting point is 00:37:53 bad logic and i can't believe we're in a place where we're one of like one of the important people in america is like i don't know my-year-old book says that shit's stupid. Yeah, my 3,000-year-old book says there'll still be night and day in winter. My 3,000-year-old book says God got my back. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:38:16 They should take you. They should walk up to you and grab you by the scruff of your fucking neck and escort you out and be like, you can never come back. You're not allowed. You're not allowed.
Starting point is 00:38:25 You're not allowed to come back here anymore. You have to go, just go somewhere else. In fact, walk into the wilderness and starve. That's what you should do.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Go do that because that's more useful than anything you could possibly do for humanity. As soon as you start like quoting the fucking Bible, there should be
Starting point is 00:38:42 a go lay down clause where somebody just says, hey, hey, go lay down clause where somebody just says, hey, hey, go lay down. Hey, hit him with the New Testament. Just keep whacking him. Get him. Go lay down. Go lay down.
Starting point is 00:38:52 God, it's so ridiculous, man. No, no. I can't believe somebody fucking out loud. Spray her with a water bottle in the face while she's reading. Out loud. It's like, no, no. Jesus said it's fine.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Spray, spray, spray. Jesus said it's totally spray spray spray Jesus said it's totally cool we it doesn't even matter and then she like and then the thing the thing that makes
Starting point is 00:39:11 Jimmy's be crazy Tom is in the next sentence she's like yeah of course we're supposed to be good stewards and I'm like that's the fucking point like that's the fucking
Starting point is 00:39:16 you're not good stewards like we're fucking every single corporation is like pulling its pants down and shitting in the ocean and we're all just like no man it's totally fine no it's you're like do it it's fucking you said it the ocean. And we're all just like, no, man, it's totally fine.
Starting point is 00:39:25 You're like, dude, it's fucking, you said it out loud. And then you're just like, but still like, Jesus is going to fix it all. Do you know what word she said that like really grabbed me too, Cecil? It was like a global agenda. And it's like, that's because it's a global climate. It's a global problem. Why are we so worried about the globe? First of all, like we're on a fucking planet.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Yeah. We're all on a planet. The decisions we make don't stop. Well, I thought my decisions would stop at these borders. That's not how borders, it's all made up. Yeah. All the lines are all made up. None of that's real.
Starting point is 00:39:54 It's all fake. So, like, yeah, of course there's a global agenda. That's not nefarious. That's just geography. There's nothing nefarious about topography and geography and climatology. You just want to walk up with a fucking globe and just spit it in her face? This is where we live, you stupid asshole!
Starting point is 00:40:12 This is how it works! Jesus! There's wind that goes here and currents that do this, and the waves are lapping around, you stupid bitch! Like, what the fuck? In a tough job market like this one you need every advantage you could get that's why i enrolled in the university of westfield online i earned my degree sitting at home in my pajamas all right so this story is fucking bonkers dude this is a long story from
Starting point is 00:40:39 the ap news diplomas for sale 465 dollars No classes required inside of one of Louisiana's unapproved schools. So, like, in Louisiana, it's the fucking Creole no man's land for education, dude. It is. It's the fucking Cajun Wild West down there for schooling. It's the mild West. That's for sure. It is not. I'll tell you what, man, you're not burning anything up. And what's so
Starting point is 00:41:07 funny is, is that the school not only does this for people who go to homeschool stuff. And I, and I want to preface this by saying, like, I'm sure there's some good homeschoolers out there. Sure. I think in the past, a couple of people, when we've gotten down on homeschooling, this Christian homeschooling stuff, we've gotten people who said, look, I homeschool my girls or I was homeschooled and I feel like I got a good education. I'm not saying that's not possible. I'm just saying like, it's harder to do because you have to be really dedicated to teaching your child. And a lot of people are lazy and it's just not, it's, you can't expect to get the same level of education that an entire crew of experts that are doing in your school, in the school.
Starting point is 00:41:49 You just can't expect to get that unless you put an immense amount of time and effort into teaching your children, which you can do, but that's like gonna be the thing you do. Like that's gonna be your job, especially when you have multiple children. It gets harder and harder
Starting point is 00:42:03 because they're in different ages. They're trying to learn different things. It's, I mean, it's, it's just genuine. It's just exponentially harder. So it's not impossible, but it's, it's not easy. And so these people, they go to these Christian homeschools, they get homeschooled. And this is a place where, you know, they're trying to do these, you know, voucher systems and all this stuff. And people just wind up not schooling their kids. And what happens is, is these, you know, voucher systems and all this stuff, and people just wind up not schooling their kids, and what happens is, is these kids don't have any skills,
Starting point is 00:42:30 and then this one school is like, yeah, man, we'll just give you a diploma. There's no test. Just give it to you. It's like ring toss with money. If you could throw the money in my wallet, you get the fucking carnival prize of a diploma, and then they're offering it to people who didn't graduate.
Starting point is 00:42:46 They didn't go back to school for 15, 20 years. Like, just come in. All you have to do is pay a fee. We'll backdate it. And you will get your diploma. This place will even backdate the diploma. The thing is, too, that these diplomas aren't state recognized. They're nothing.
Starting point is 00:43:01 They're as much of a diploma as a Glory Hole Studios diploma. Sure, yeah. And in Louisiana, one of the craziest things is, like, They're just, they're nothing. They're as much of a diploma as a Glory Hole Studios diploma. Sure, yeah. And in Louisiana, one of the craziest things is like, anybody can declare themselves a school. So basically like, if you're a homeschooling family, there are homeschooling families that just like, declare themselves like, on paper,
Starting point is 00:43:20 like the Ballerina Jedi Academy. That was a good example from this article. Then like, nobody's counting these people. Nobody's seeing who's going. Nobody's seeing if they're getting an education. No one's seeing how many people are at one of these schools, these quote unquote schools. There's literally no oversight. And the state's like, yeah, we can't.
Starting point is 00:43:36 That's impossible. We can't do this. They can barely do that in public school. Right. So there's all these people who are basically creating a school of one on paper in order for them to be like, yeah, I went to, you know, like Netherland Academy and I got my fucking degree of Peter Panism or fucking whatever bullshit that they want. It's nothing. It's all fucking nothing. Like I said, none of it's state approved. None of it is state, like you get these diplomas, they don't mean anything, but people will take them and go to colleges. And the colleges, they're not really
Starting point is 00:44:09 checked. Most of the world is the honor system. And this is something I had to explain to a guy that I know. I'm kind of in a mentor-mentee relationship with this guy. He's in his early 20s. And I was trying to explain to him the other day, I'm like, look, most of all of the world is the honor system. For the most part, nobody's checking on any of the things that you do. If you fill out a resume, nobody calls all your references. Nobody calls your school. Nobody requests your transcripts. Nobody knows your GPA. All of that is the honor system. It's all the honor system with a handful of tiny exceptions, right? Like if you're required to have some kind of special licensing,
Starting point is 00:44:45 et cetera. Sure, yeah, background or something. That kind of thing, right. But like background checks just check to see if you're a criminal. That's kind of all they check on. And they only look in the state, generally in the state you're in that day. You could be a criminal two states over.
Starting point is 00:44:57 They probably didn't check that state. They probably didn't check it, yeah. Most of the world is just the honor system. So these guys are walking around. It's this whole like state is producing diplomas from what appear to be schools that are nothing.
Starting point is 00:45:10 There's no education being given. There's no checks. There's no standards. There's no guarantee that there's been any attempt at anything even approaching a formalized education. And like, I do take your point
Starting point is 00:45:22 that like, is it possible to homeschool at a very high level Yeah Yes I would say it's like 1% of 1% It's so It's hard
Starting point is 00:45:29 It's so hard to do And it's exponentially harder The more kids you have Yep It's harder because The ages are different And it's harder It's just hard
Starting point is 00:45:36 It is And the longer you homeschool Like if you're trying to homeschool A first grader Versus an 11th grader It's fantastically more difficult To do that as well Way, way harder It's fantastically more difficult to do that as well. Way, way harder.
Starting point is 00:45:45 It's very, very tough to do. Again, can it be done? I'm sure that it can be done. But most of the time, it's not being done well. Most of this homeschooling stuff is a bunch of religious nuts. And we know that because in this article, there were people who were like, hey, this whole system is kind of bunk ass and it's producing a lot of nonsense and we don't have any controls. And there's a lot of people who are just getting bullshit degrees from non-accredited schools maybe we should fix that and the christian homeschooling industry and it's an industry they fought it they fought it and they got that bill like turned away yeah voted down what what what occurs to me is there's a there's a carl sagan was being interviewed and he said that there's this there's
Starting point is 00:46:25 this moment that's coming up where a society that is basically uneducated is going to have to deal with a society that is hyper advanced and they don't know how to deal with it because they don't have the understanding basically just don't have the technology now i'm not going to quote him exactly because i don't remember exactly what he was saying, what exactly the quote is. But that's the gist of his quote, is that there's going to be a flashpoint where an uneducated society is going to be not well-equipped to deal with the technology that we have created because they just don't understand it. And that previous story where that woman has no idea what's happening in the world
Starting point is 00:47:06 and thinks the Bible's going to fix everything because that's what she learned and she doesn't have any real understanding how the planet is warming and how temperatures work and how climate works. And then you have all these kids that are being thrown out
Starting point is 00:47:21 without any education whatsoever. They've had the very most minimal education and you know they've been indoctrinated into anti-intellectual traditions almost the entire time. So it's not just that they don't have an education. They have had the curiosity beaten out of them too from anti-intellectual traditions that make you
Starting point is 00:47:46 not curious, that make you into a person that doesn't want to find out about how the world really works, but just wants to be fed the dogma of what that religion or what that anti-intellectual tradition believes, whether it's QAnon or it's fucking the ultra far right, the Protestant church or something, right? So we have a system now that is churning out more and more and more people who don't understand how the world works. And then they get the same amount of votes that you do. And they have a whole group of people that they talk to and tune each other up.
Starting point is 00:48:24 And we're in this situation where we keep on defunding education. And this is the natural fucking, this is the natural conclusion of that statement. That equation leads to this. Yeah. And like, you know, just like I was talking about in the Elon Musk segment we were talking, is that the concentration of wealth, the concentration of power, creates an oligarchical state, right?
Starting point is 00:48:49 Yeah. But so does the concentration of expertise. Yeah. And when we build a society that concentrates expertise into a small number of hands, which is what we're doing right now, and then those are your fucking overlords, stupid. Like, I want all these people who are sort of like gleefully marching into their own chains.
Starting point is 00:49:10 You know what I mean? They're just like intentionally putting themselves at risk constantly. They're basically saying like, I don't want to be relevant. Don't let me be relevant in the coming world. I want to make sure I'm unequipped. To your point about the Carl Sagan thing, but it's like, yeah, like you guys are going to be like ill-equipped to handle this. And people who are equipped will take advantage of you. You are disempowering yourself through this process.
Starting point is 00:49:32 You're making yourself like chattel. You really are. And like, that all sounds like really hyperbolic, but I don't think it's not true. No, it's definitely true. And you're absolutely right. And those people who are pushing these, you know, anti-intellectual traditions, make no mistake, they're paying attention. Yeah. You know, those leaders, they're paying attention.
Starting point is 00:49:52 They want to feed you as much bullshit as possible so that you stay dumb. But they're not going to stay dumb. No. No. No. You're just the blood for their gears. Absolutely. Then there's the smallpox vaccine, chickenpox, and measles. So stories
Starting point is 00:50:07 from the Guardian. No, no, no. Avoid them all. Anti-vaccine conspiracies spread as UK casals of measles increase. Again, it's another one of these stories where, you know, very much what we're just talking about, which is people are uninformed. People don't know anything about this stuff. They get told things and then they believe stuff that they, because what really should be happening is they should be learning about how vaccines are safe from a very young age in public education.
Starting point is 00:50:36 Everyone should be learning that and that should be reinforced all the time because it's true and because it saves lives and because it saves misery of people. It's just important to do. And the fact is, is that we don't do that or people are afraid to do that because there's a push,
Starting point is 00:50:51 there's a tiniest bit of pushback. And then suddenly we're in this place where these people go to these moms groups and they're like, well, I don't know. I don't know. They're pressuring me to get the MMR vaccine. Should I get it? And everybody's like, no, don't get any vaccines.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Never get a vaccine. Never come near a needle. And you're just like, you're just creating more people that are less equipped to deal with the world. Yeah. And it's like the ripple effect of the anti-vax movement that really exploded and got its roots, its claws in so deep with the COVID stuff. We knew that that was going to spread into other vaccines. We've talked about it. There's been articles written about it. And the inevitable result of that is going to be, and it is, and we're watching it, is going to be the rise of this preventable fucking illness. And it's like, you'll read that stupid ass shit online. I'm sure you've seen the same thing where somebody's like, well,
Starting point is 00:51:41 if the vaccines work, then you get yours and protect you. And like, I'll not get mine and you'll take my chances. And it's like, that's not how public health works. Good Lord. Public health doesn't work like that. Doesn't help our friend who can't get them. Right. Yeah. Because she's immunocompromised.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Because she's immunocompromised. So like, these are public health policies because they are for the good of all of us, right? So yes, there is an individual good to getting a vaccine, but there's also an altruistic good to getting a vaccine, right? Like, I don't want to not get sick. That is true. I also know that, like, I could get a vaccine and still get sick because nothing's 100%, right? So I know that, like, I could go get the measles vaccine and still get the measles. It does happen. But I know it's, first of all, much less likely for me. And then it's also much more likely that if more people do what I do, less people overall will get sick. And the aggregating effect of that, the herd immunity, the aggregating effect of that helps to build a society where we've all worked,
Starting point is 00:52:40 not just to protect ourselves, but to protect each other. And that whole like ethos of protecting each other, that whole idea of like aggregating our altruism together has been fucking wiped off the map in America. That's not part of our conversation. Remember like, like those like quotes that were so inspiring, like ask not what your country can do for you. Like all of that's gone. All of it is like, fucking what about me, dick? Yeah, now it's a chicken. Now it's me. Now it's a chicken pox in every pot.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Right, yeah. But you know what I mean? Yeah, no, absolutely. It's gotten so mean and so selfish and so individualistic. No, I don't disagree. And I think like we are,
Starting point is 00:53:18 there are many people in the world that are ill-equipped and that are very, very easily swayed by rhetoric. And that rhetoric is easy to produce and it produces emotional attachments. So basically, they just say about protecting children, those types of things, and they make it super emotional. There's a lady who I went to high school with. And for some reasons, there was a comment on somebody. I know somebody from a long time
Starting point is 00:53:45 ago and I saw a comment from the person and I saw their name and I highlighted their name and we're not friends anymore, but we were for a while, like on Facebook, we're not anymore. And when I looked at her, her background for her profile picture, it said something like, you know, someone who's been vaccine injured. And I'm just like, oh, that's why we're not friends because you're a crazy person. That's why. And if you would like, oh, that's why we're not friends because you're a crazy person. That's why. And if you would have said anything to around me about this, I would have fucking absolutely told you
Starting point is 00:54:11 how wrong you were. And so that's why we're not friends anymore. Even though we were close in high school, it's like, well, that's okay. Because like, I don't want to talk to you anymore either. Right. Because she has fallen for these,
Starting point is 00:54:23 you know, look at how that's worded. You know someone who was vaccine injured, right? Because she has fallen for these, you know, look at how that's worded. You know, someone who was vaccine injured, right? Vaccine injured has an emotional pull to it, especially because you're talking about children mostly. So you're talking about hurting children and they're like, okay, well that's going to, of course, stop people from thinking and start people emoting and then not paying attention to what they really should be doing, making sure their kids are vaccinated against these things. And yes, there are, I'm not saying that vaccine injury doesn't exist, but I'm saying it's so
Starting point is 00:54:54 few and far between. It's like it's a percent of a percent of a percent. Yeah. Well, it's so funny because when you said that, like I immediately thought of my friend's wife who was vaccinated. She got a vaccine and she got, I'm going funny because when you said that, like, I immediately thought of my friend's wife who was vaccinated. She got a vaccine and she got, I'm going to mispronounce it, but like Gulen bar from it or something along those lines, which means now she can't get other vaccines. Right. So she had an adverse and strong and dangerous reaction. Now she can't get other vaccines. There's like nobody more pro vaccine than she is. Sure.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Because she's like, yeah, I want everyone else to get vaccinated because I can't. Yeah. Like, people who have been vaccine injured are like, if they really understand the science, and she does, she's like,
Starting point is 00:55:31 yeah, I really want everyone around me to get fucking vaccinated because I had this bad reaction and now I can't get, and I don't want to get fucking whatever the next awful disease is.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Yeah, man. So, like, if you just understand how this shit works, but we live in an anti-intellectual society. Yeah. And understanding isn't important.
Starting point is 00:55:48 What's important is driving reactions. Dude, we're in a fucking emoticon fucking society. Like it's fucking, how many fucking emojis can we fucking put on something or fucking likey likesy
Starting point is 00:55:58 hearty hearts? It's all fucking shit, dude. Makes me crazy. Just like, that's our new shirt. It's all fucking shit, dude. Makes me crazy. That's our new shirt. It's all fucking shit, dude. That's it. That's the shirt. Old man yells at clowns.
Starting point is 00:56:12 The world. It's all fucking shit, dude. I mean, how gay is it being attracted to a woman? All pink and perfumey. So, Tom, let's end the episode today with someone who we haven't covered in a long time. This is cat care with her pink hair. Uh,
Starting point is 00:56:28 that rhymes. Trademark. And, and here she is. Um, this is from, uh, this is from the friendly atheist,
Starting point is 00:56:35 uh, Hemant. And he says, Christian prophetess cat care says, gay people says gay people. We're all chosen by God for very special assignments. So here we go. You can let defiled people come and partake of holy things in those churches
Starting point is 00:56:52 because they have defiled their self. I'm talking about homosexuals. I'm glad she cleared that up. I'm glad she cleared that up. Thank you. Thanks. When people like you say defiled, we know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:57:06 We know what you're talking about. You made it sound fun. And I will tell you this, and I happen to know it. They were all chosen by God for very special assignments. So Satan came up with a way
Starting point is 00:57:21 to steal their destiny and keep them from ever becoming a threat to him. That's why he chose them. But I have news for them. If you're listening out there, there's coming a revival that millions of homosexuals will run into the kingdom of God. And if you change your body parts,
Starting point is 00:57:45 he's putting back on you. What the fuck? So Tom, a couple of years ago, last year, I think, I had a cyst removed from the top of my head. Do you think I got to pick where it goes back? Because I might pad my groin. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:58:04 There you go. If it's going to go back, if he's got to put it back where it goes, it goes. That's fine. But if he's like, no, you know, you got a bunch of... Oh, choosy choosy? You got a fatty mass removed from your head. Where would you like it to go?
Starting point is 00:58:15 It's like suctioning some fucking fat out of your ass. Put it on this butt. I want it somewhere else. Can you put more fatty bumps somewhere? That would be a great name. Fatty bumps. Fatty bumps. I'm going to heaven.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I'm the angel. Fatty bumps, baby. What a fucking dumb person. God, this lady is so stupid. They were chosen for special assignments, but then Satan was like, ha ha, distraction, suck it in. What about sex though?
Starting point is 00:58:45 And everybody else is like, no, I don't like sex. Yeah. How is it more like distracting from your assignment because you want to have sex with a dude or a lady instead of a lady or a dude? Yeah. Right. Like, how are you just like, well, all right. I was always going to be distracted by a certain amount of sex.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Yeah. There was going to be a level of sex in my brain, no matter what. You're just like, all right, that is like 83% of my brain, right? It's always going to be 83% of my brain. Then there's 10% that's food and then something,
Starting point is 00:59:13 something left over, right? That's it. It's like, yeah, it's like fucking and then we'll eat and then I don't know,
Starting point is 00:59:18 whatever's left over is probably math from high school. There's a square root of something in there. I don't know. Yeah. 64, 8 or something.
Starting point is 00:59:26 It's nothing. She's talking about it as if God was like, okay, here's your envelope. No. All the angels are like, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. And they're getting their envelope and they're getting ready to go out
Starting point is 00:59:43 into the world. And then they're just like, but what if I, you know, what if I did something else? And like, also, also, what does that Cupid harp look like?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Or Cupid bow look like? Is he shooting? What is he shooting? You know what? We're going to leave that alone. We're just going to leave it alone. I don't know. And if you want to shoot yourself with a Cupid bow, head over to Adam and Eve. You're just going to leave it alone. I don't know. And if you want to shoot yourself
Starting point is 01:00:05 with a Cupid bow head over to Adam and Eve. You're just like, it's got a big dildo on it. Whoa, whoa. Whoa. Hey, shoot me again. One more time.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Actually spank me when you do that. All right. all right uh okay so that's gonna wrap it up for this week uh we are going to be releasing a funny show on thursday remember come visit me on friday uh i'll be on our twitch stream which is twitch.tv slash distance pod uh playing path of exile the new i think it's called Affliction, which is like a shirt brand or something. I don't know. But you can come check it out. UFC. You can come check it out.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Hang out with me and chit chat. It'll be fun. But we're going to leave you, like we always do, with the Skeptic's Creed. Credulity is not a virtue. It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue,
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