Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 733: Primary Recap, Santos Expelled, Cryo-incarceration
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Today is Thursday, December 7th.
And it is immediately following yet another
wonderfully inconsequential Republican primary debate.
Has there ever been anything more
like just politically limp dick
and pointless? It is so
pointless, Tom.
We were watching part of it
downstairs because while we were
eating, the recording of it was on.
And they're all
talking as if
what they have to say
is something that could
possibly be a policy one day.
Yeah, right.
And they aren't talking about the fact that the one guy
who has the majority of votes across the country for the Republicans
by a large margin is...
Not there.
Yeah, he's not even there.
He's not even in the room.
He's not even...
He stopped even trying to do competing stuff because he realizes he's not even there. He's not even in the room. He's not even, he stopped even trying to do competing stuff
because he realizes it doesn't even matter.
Like if you remember the first one,
he wasn't sure.
He was like, I'm going to skip this one,
but at the same time,
I'm going to release at the exact same time,
Tucker Carlson talk.
Oh, that's right.
Whatever it was or, you know,
and then he tried to do it again.
He did it a couple of times
where he was trying to compete with this. Now he doesn't even care. He literally doesn't even care.
He might've been competing with it with a live event somewhere, but he doesn't care
what's happening on that stage. And the only person who recognizes that is Chris Christie,
who is saying no one here is mentioning Donald Trump's name because they're afraid of the people
who, who follow him. But genuinely Donald Trump is the because they're afraid of the people who follow him.
But genuinely, Donald Trump is the one who they should be attacking every single step of the way.
Those people together need to kill Trump before they can even think about what they could do next.
Right. But they know they can't. None of them are Trump killers and they all know it.
They know like the polling shows that like 40% of the Republican base
is MAGA no matter what, is Trump no matter what. So if you've got 40% of the base sewn up,
just at lock and they can't, you can't pull that aside. Numerically, there's no path to victory
for any of these people. Like Nikki Haley right now is a strong number two. But like,
even at a strong number two,
even if she wins a handful of states,
she'll still get crushed
because numerically she can't begin to approach that 40%.
Other thing that I think that all these people are doing
is they are hoping that he gets indicted and thrown away.
Yeah.
Because if he gets indicted and thrown away,
suddenly this market is wide open.
And they have an opportunity,
Nikki Haley has an opportunity
to capture all the votes of Trump
when he's gone, right?
Any of the votes that are left over.
And they've never once said anything bad about him.
So all those MAGA people who were upset
that he's thrown away,
I was always behind Trump,
but now he's gone. You got to vote for somebody. Do you think Trump will not run if he's a felon?
I don't know. I mean, I would imagine there's going to be places that they won't have him on
the ballot. I don't know. Is it disqualifying in any state
for him to be on the ballot?
Here's what I think.
I think if Trump does get convicted of a felony,
I think he'll still run
as if he did not get convicted of a felony.
I think he'll run from jail.
I think he'll run from house arrest.
I think he'll run from the moon.
Like, cause he's just got to run at this
point. You know, like his only hope of staying like remotely. They'll have to take him off the
ballot in places. They will have to put forth different measures because as it stands, he's
just a, he's an accused person who's accused of something. But if he's convicted of something,
I think that, that, that jumps a level that's different. And I wonder if they're going to
push in those different avenues in those wonder if they're going to push
in those different avenues,
in those different places across the country
to try to get him off the ballot.
Yeah, and I don't disagree.
I just wonder legally,
I don't know if there's a mechanism
to keep him off the ballot.
We have such a fucking stupid system.
We do.
To have that as the system is just so stupid.
And then like crazily,
if he did get elected,
he would be immediately impeachable for high crimes and misdemeanors, but he wouldn't have committed any of those
while in office. But like, I don't know if that would be such a train wreck. It would be such a
fucking train wreck. The other thing too, is I wonder if he could just, he could just walk in
and just get rid of things, or he would just turn to the governors of states and make them get
rid of him in some places. Not in Georgia, we found out, but in other places where he's been
accused in different states and all the federal stuff immediately goes away. Yeah. Oh yeah. If
he's, cause he can just, I mean, I don't know if you can pardon yourself, but. But he'll give it a
whirl. He'll give it a whirl. He'll give it a fucking whirl. He'll give it hell. I actually
would not be surprised if he chose a vice president and said, all right, if I get elected,
I'm going to quit and you pardon me. Yeah. And then that's how he gets out of jail free. And then he goes off into the sunset or whatever. Cause like, I do think that
the, the, the big reason he's running is to get out of this, to get out of this. And like,
I like, I have not, and this is the only time in my life that I can think of in like recent memory
that I've not watched any debates.
I always watch the debates.
I forget these things are even happening, man.
This feels like finding out that the model UN club is having a debate.
But because it's so inconsequential.
It is.
But genuinely, some of the shit that gets said on there is really frightening.
So this Vivek Ramaswamy, he's fucking saying straight out
conspiracy theories now.
Like, straight out, no
veil. He's talking about
9-11 being an inside job.
He's talking about great replacement shit. This guy
is genuinely scary.
Yeah. And, you know,
not more scary than Trump. I mean, they're about the same.
I mean, they're not more scary, but
genuinely terrifying dude. And the stuff he's saying. I mean, they're about the same. I mean, they're not more scary, but genuinely terrifying dude.
And the stuff he's saying,
I mean, he's, you know,
yesterday night he pulled the,
if you're not pro-America,
you're anti-America is what he said.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, I mean,
this is something these people believe.
Yeah, well, Vivek Ramaswamy,
Ramaswamy, sorry,
is in many ways,
we talked about this before,
in many ways,
he's more dangerous than
Trump. And I think we should be, you know, what I hope is this, what I hope is that he falls victim
to the, I ran, I didn't win and I fade into the background and I'm never seen again. And that
happens so often, right? And it's such a weird thing in American politics. And maybe this is
true in other places, but like, you'll see people and they like throw their hat in the ring for the
highest office, the highest office, and then they don't win. And then they just kind of like
fade off into nothingness. It's not like they, oh, I, I came in second at the Olympics and like,
I never ran again. Sure. Like I just stopped running races. Yeah. I really hope that that's what happens.
I really hope he goes back into the business world
and ruins whatever hedge fund or whatever it is
that he's working at
and gets the fuck out of politics.
The worry is he's young.
Yeah.
And he's got so much runway in front of him.
Sure, yeah.
And we've entered into this world
where being deeply wrong about really important things
isn't disqualified.
Doesn't matter at all.
Doesn't make any difference.
Literally doesn't matter.
Yeah.
In fact,
it makes him more qualified.
Yeah.
In some people's minds.
It makes them more like,
because like now I think there's a,
I think a growing number of people who become very comfortable with their
conspiracy theory worldview.
No,
you're not wrong. That their conspiracy theory, there No, you're not wrong.
That their conspiracy theory,
there's like this stupid Facebook page
that like asks dumb ass questions
and people will just answer them.
And like one of them is always like,
and it happens like every month,
somebody will be like,
what's conspiracy theory you believe?
And it'll have hundreds and hundreds of comments.
And I always click on it.
And it's like people like ardently defending
the most insane and puerile nonsense.
And it's hundreds of them, man. And I'm just like, fuck. The other thing about these,
like the new world conspiracy theory is that it's held like a badge of honor.
Sure. Yeah.
You know, it's like, it's trumped up. It's literally.
It's one of those things where they're saying like, I'm not a dupe.
You know, they make it seem like they're saying,
you can't fool me.
I'm smarter than the average bear or whatever.
You know, and they're basically touting this
as if it were something that were a badge.
Like you can't slip one past the goalie on me.
I'm too smart for you.
Right, right.
When really,
you're just super gullible.
You're the exact opposite
of smart.
Yeah.
Well, and it's like,
you know,
one of the things that like,
the January 6th
conspiracy theorists
were like,
oh, it was actually
the government.
It was actually FBI plants.
It was actually,
actually,
like,
you're just,
you're fucking gaslighting
the world to believe it.
We watched it happen live in real time.
You saw them shouting.
You knew what they were shouting.
You saw all the flags.
They arrest these people.
And then it's not one or two or 10 or 20.
It's hundreds of people.
They arrest them.
And then you do a look back at years of their social media leading up to the January 6th.
And they've been this radicalized lunatic fringe.
And you're like, yeah, despite all that, it was the FBI.
And you're like, you could watch on nine different channels simultaneously.
It's not like it's only available in this one source.
But like we're rewriting history and we're proud of it.
You know, we're creating alternative facts and we're proud of it. You know, we're creating
alternative facts and we're saying it out loud because there's now like a cachet to it. There's
like a social cachet to it. We're holding on to a crazy theory is almost cute. It's almost like a
hobby. It feels like the internet has created like this environment of trolling. It feels like a kind of social trolling.
Sure.
To hold a conspiracy theory
and then to be like,
well, actually I believe this crazy bullshit.
And then like,
now it's something we can like put up the dukes about.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
It's fucking nuts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think,
I think as I watch each one of these though,
I think I am more and more convinced
that there isn't a single person
in the Republican Party that's competent
and that could easily,
that could run this country.
I did not always think that my whole life.
I did not always think that.
I think even back to when Obama was running
and it was McCain and it was Romney,
I still thought even if he lost,
those people would be able to run the government.
Those people would be okay to have that power.
It would suck and it would suck for a lot of people.
Yes, right.
But it wouldn't be the absolute worst choice
you could possibly make.
And none of those people on the stage,
I don't think any of them,
I mean, I guess maybe Chris Christie
is the only one I think is maybe possibly
even close to capable of running the government.
Which is incredibly distressing.
It feels like handing the keys
to a Lamborghini to a middle schooler.
Yeah.
They are wildly unprepared.
A kindergartner even.
There's no way they can handle this.
They need to get in a trench coat with a friend to drive.
That's what has to happen.
They're sitting on a fucking phone book full of nuclear secrets.
Yeah, exactly.
They're using the little nuke code box to push the pedals.
Yeah, the football or whatever.
They're pushing the pedals with two briefcases, two secret briefcases.
It's genuinely terrifying.
It is.
I don't feel like any of these people are, and they lost half of them already. They're already
gone. Half of them are gone because those people were never going to go anywhere anyway. And none
of these people are going to go anywhere anyway, period.
Do you smell that? It's like something's burning. Is that my pussy? Yes.
Pussy?
Yes.
So literally, Tom, I want to say 12 hours after we recorded last time, this happened.
This happened, yeah.
Indicted Republican lawmaker George Santos expelled from the U.S. House.
And did you see the little like speech that he gave right before he got expelled?
It was delicious.
So before he was going to be expelled, he stood up there and he basically gave
a speech that was like,
well, I know a lot of bad shit you guys did too.
And I didn't say anything.
I'm not even kidding. That was the
tone and tenor of it.
And then he stalked off and didn't
even hang out while they voted to see if he could still
play house. And he's
not allowed to play house anymore. What happens if he won that vote though does he come back they come back he stopped
off right he stopped off so he ran away yeah what happens if you actually were to win that but i
i'd actually be perfectly frank you know him being accused of these things and appears to be pretty fucking guilty of all these things.
He sounds super guilty.
He sounds super guilty.
Him being accused of all this stuff was enough for the house.
And I'm actually a little shocked that they did it because they tried it before.
Yeah.
And it failed.
And I'm shocked, although it's easier now because they're starting to lose their majority.
But still, I was really shocked that he was actually removed by that side.
That is something that really does, it doesn't seem like they care at all.
No, they don't.
When it's Donald Trump or any of these other people who do something that's really horrible.
But when it's Santos,
I think he thought he could just get by with the Trump.
Just basically,
they're not going to throw me out because I'm one of them.
Well,
I think,
and he was like,
I'm not going to throw me out because they need my number.
Yeah.
Because like the,
the,
the,
the house,
the Republican house doesn't have the strength without him.
Like they're one less guy strong. So I think, and that's
the reason I don't think he got, that's the reason he didn't get kicked out earlier. It's the reason
he didn't get censured earlier. It's the reason he like all of it. It's the reason he all of it.
I don't really understand either what pushed this to the precipice now and then over. I don't really
get that. What I do know, which is wonderful, is guess what he's doing now for money?
He's doing the Cameo stuff.
He's on Cameo.
Yeah. And Fetterman, I don't know if you saw this. Did you see Fetterman?
Fetterman made him say shit, right?
Fetterman paid him money to troll somebody else.
So Fetterman, if you're overseas, Fetterman is a senator from Pennsylvania and he's a Democrat.
And he was just elected this last election cycle,
the big election cycle, not the last election cycle,
but the best big election cycle in 2020.
And he was elected and he paid George Santos,
who was now on Cameo, 300 and some dollars
to say something to someone else
to send it to somebody else.
I don't know what he said.
I just saw the headline.
I didn't really pay a lot of attention to it
because it feels a little, I don't know.
It doesn't feel like anything I need to know.
I don't care.
I don't remember what he said either.
I know that he trolled somebody else.
No, I do know what he said.
He trolled Robert Menendez, I think.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I think he trolled Robert Menendez,
who is the Democrat who is also under investigation. He'll get thrown out too. So I think he was paid by Fetterman to
troll that guy, if I'm not mistaken. It sounds right. It sounds right. I just love, like,
this guy is like, he's such a fucking grifter that like a lot of the sort of like cameo stuff
he's been doing has basically had the same like tone and tenor to
it of the OJ Simpson book. You know, I didn't do it, but if I did, here's how I would have done it
or whatever the fuck his book was called. Sure. Like George Santos is basically like wink, wink
at the camera being like, Oh, what should I do for my birthday? He's like, buy yourself some
Ferragamo's and maybe go to only fans., he's like saying shit like that on Cameo
for like 200 bucks.
And like,
I know he thinks
it's all cute now
and he seems to be like
really air playing it up,
but he's going to go to jail.
Hey, I can't see
how you don't go to jail.
I don't see how you don't
go to jail for this.
Yeah.
So like,
this is genuine fraud, man.
It's super duper fraud.
This is like super duper fraud.
And like we said
in the last several shows,
it's the easiest,
dumbest fraud. Yeah. It's like, it's like stealing your mom's credit duper fraud. This is like super duper fraud. And like we said in the last several shows, it's the easiest, dumbest fraud.
Yeah.
It's like stealing your mom's credit card level fraud.
It's the worst kind of fraud.
It's so easy for them to trace.
Yes.
It's pathetic.
It is.
A very, very unbirthday to you, to you.
A very, very unbirthday to you, to you.
It's great to drink to someone and I guess that you will do.
A very merry unbirthday to you.
So the other night on Fox News, they were playing a Trump speech and Trump had some things to say.
And then on Fox News has to break in right afterwards.
It's a very short clip.
So this is what they had to say.
Bigger, better, and it works.
Mine won't.
And then, no.
Well, the former president
finally got around to some campaign promises
amid lots of cheering, as you heard.
Many untruths.
The 2020 election was not rigged.
It was not stolen.
Now, many, many untruths. Many, many untruths.
Many, many untruths.
And you know, the thing when I see that,
my thoughts are,
anybody who still believes that
is still going to believe it
because they think that they've been coerced
with this payment that they had to make to Dominion.
So now it doesn't matter. You're not going to get the truth out of them do you know what i mean they're not you're not going to say the
truth because they're being coerced i and i and i've got the two notes i wrote um one is i have
to just pause is untruth a word like isn't it just a lie why aren't we just saying lie it's right many
many lies you're right why are we like you're softening your fucking weas saying lie? It's right. Many, many lies. You're right. Why are we like couching with this fucking weasel shit?
You're softening the language.
It's an untruth.
You're softening the language.
Get the fuck out of here,
an untruth.
Yeah.
An untruth.
Oh, it's not like,
it's not cheating on somebody.
It's an unfidelity.
Like what?
What?
Like what?
No.
Like let's call shit what it is.
But also,
I wonder if Fox has to do this.
Yeah, I think they do.
I think they have to. To protect themselves. And now they have to be like, all right, we got to wonder if Fox has to do this. Yeah, I think they do. I think they have to
to protect themselves.
And now they have to be like,
all right, we got to have,
we got to jump in.
They probably made a promise
after they paid all that money
that they would not propagate
that stuff anymore.
Right.
And that when somebody does,
they have to come on
and make a statement.
And that's why I wonder,
you know, like,
like, while it's good
that Fox News will no longer
say those things or
be a party to saying those things. Cause they never really, I mean, I guess they could probably
get around and weasel ways to say, I never really said it. And we just had guests who said it over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
So you're just like, okay, yeah, great. Yeah. No, you didn't say it, but fucking you add,
you add fucking Roger Stone on
and you had on the Eastman guy
who had a different hat on every time.
You had that guy on to do this lying for you.
But the part of me is like,
that's great that they're not doing that anymore.
But then there's another part of me that's thinking
it also sucks because it gives the people
who don't want to believe it
a great way to not believe it.
Yeah.
It's a get out of belief free card.
It's true.
If you're watching,
just like me,
like I watch this and I'm like,
nah, Fox News isn't reliable on this.
Like Fox News,
even though they're bopping in
and saying like,
hey, this is an untruth.
Yeah.
Like my brain is like,
nah, whatever.
Like you had to say it.
Like, I don't know what you believe. Like it's, this is an untruth. Yeah. Like my brain is like, nah, whatever. Like you had to say it. Like, I don't know what you believe.
Like it's,
I do wonder though
about that 40% we talked about before.
Has that 40% walked away from Fox?
Are they over at the
crazier and crazier?
The Newsmax and the OAN.
There's a new one too,
that one that they just had the,
they had the primary on it,
the primary debate. Yeah. There's a brand new station I didn't even know it, the primary debate.
There's a brand new station I didn't even know about
until this primary debate.
So there's a new station because they're seeing
that there's a market for this stuff.
This far right stuff has a market.
And there's plenty of people out there
that want to sweep up those dollars as fast as they can.
Yeah, they want that Mike Lindell money.
You know, they want that sweet, sweet Mike Lindell money.
That you can put under your pillow.
Your lumpy pillow.
Fuck you, you're an asshole, lumpy pillow.
Where are you, lumpy pillow?
Okay, Chief, take him away.
I'm going to go home and sleep with my wife.
This is from the Washington Post.
Former Speaker Kevin McCarthy will retire
from Congress at the end of the year. Wow. Until a special election is held to fill his seat,
McCarthy's absence will further narrow the Republican majority in the House.
I think this is a revenge. I do too. Right. This is obviously a, you didn't want me. I'm taking
my ball and going home. Your majority is one shy.
Now, Santos, it's another shy.
We're slimming up to the majority.
The Republican House is in already such violent disarray.
Sure, sure.
And I take, we've talked about this,
I take no pleasure in that.
Yeah.
I don't.
Because, like, although I don't want them
to get anything done, they weren't anyway.
But there are, we are basically a broken government right now until at least 2024.
The House is really important, man.
We are a broken government.
To have the House in disarray like this, it's a really important institution.
Well, my biggest worry right now is like, I am not certain that we are going to continue to fund the war effort in Ukraine.
to fund the war effort in Ukraine.
They held up the funding because they're like,
yeah, we're going to package this up
with a bunch of border control bullshit
and a bunch of anti-immigration bullshit.
We're not going to let this money go through.
And if they don't let that money go through
and Ukraine doesn't get that financial assistance
and the weapons that are associated with it,
Putin's going to roll in
and all of this will have been for naught.
It will all be just
a bunch of bloodshed for nothing
and like the invasion of a sovereign nation.
Sure. And we're like
on the verge of allowing that to happen because
we have a dysfunctional government.
It doesn't...
I don't know if this is true, right?
But I wouldn't be surprised
if there were people
in the House that were permanently causing disarray because this is in the best interest of Russia.
I wouldn't be surprised by that either.
If you're Russia, you have been working hard for years to sow exactly this kind of internal discontent.
Yeah.
Right?
feels very much like the intentional result of a many years long propaganda effort to divide and destroy the American electorate. And if you're Russia, you're like, great, you know, if you
can't pass this funding bill, then you're not going to continue to fund Ukraine. And I will
roll in and I will take Kiev and I will have, that will be part of Russia. We're their
lifeline. Absolutely. And what a
drastic
waste it will be if that happens.
Because then you're looking at
how many hundreds of thousands of lives lost.
How many people died. And for nothing.
For nothing. And both sides.
Both sides of the conflict lost a ton
of people. I want
to scroll back to McCarthy here.
I agree with you that this is a petulant,
stomp your feet and walk away sort of thing that he's doing.
He always felt like the kind of guy who's like super weak.
And in the last couple weeks,
he has really shown when he's pushing that guy in the back
as he walks by, that sort of very patulant.
This is one of the six people that might have been one of the people who knocked him out of there.
And he's literally throwing elbows like fucking Bill Ampere or whatever under the mask.
It's ridiculous.
What's sort of surprising too is look back at the people who have become the leaders of the house.
When you think about,
think about Boehner,
you think about Ryan,
where do these,
these people just disappeared
right afterwards, right?
Yeah, they're just gone.
Boehner, as soon as he,
as soon as he,
he was like, that's it.
I'm done with everything.
Same thing with Ryan.
I'm done.
Have you seen him in politics
at all since then?
No, not at all.
And he was like a presidential
whole thing.
Yeah, he was a giant rising star.
Yeah.
He was a vice presidential candidate.
He was definitely a rising star.
And where is he now?
See, and that's what I was kind of talking about earlier.
It's like there's an Icarus effect.
If you get too close, you just collapse entirely and disappear.
He's going to go.
This is what McCarthy's going to do. He's going to go away. And one of the things that he disappear. He's going to go. This is what McCarthy's going
to do. He's going to go away. And one of the things that he's saying he's going to do is he's
going to try to get people elected. He's that's what he's going to spend his time doing is getting,
you know, younger people in elected, but genuinely right. I mean, like McCarthy was
one of the people who, when you think about, you know, the right and the house, his name was, you know, one of the highest names up there for a long time.
And all it took was like a short amount of time as speaker to absolutely ruin his reputation forever.
Well, and it's fascinating, too, that like he seems like yet another MAGA victim, right?
So anybody who comes into close enough contact
with the sort of third rail of MAGA-ism
ends up eventually, like,
it doesn't matter if you're Kevin McCarthy.
It doesn't matter if you're Bill Barr.
It doesn't matter if you're Mike Pence.
It doesn't matter who you are.
If you run up against that MAGA train,
everybody fucking eats shit.
The Republican Party is,
it's effectively in a point of real schism.
There's no internal cohesion.
And I used to be like, yeah, that's great.
I don't want them to be cohesive.
They've been cohesive for so long.
It was really hard to fight up, swim upstream against them. But I never imagined
the kind of like chaos that this would cause. Like the, our inability to govern. Right. Is like,
it's scary. Our inability to govern is like, we're going to come up against like in pretty short
order. It's a short amount of time. We're going to come up against more budget shortfalls,
more government shutdowns,
more... It's just like
they're not passing
any long-term solutions here.
They're just gently punting
for a minute.
And they're going to
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Do you like people to call you dictator or just dick?
So the story comes from CBS News.
Liz Cheney tells CBS News Sunday morning that the U.S. is sleepwalking into a dictatorship.
Now, she's referring to the book she wrote, right?
So she wrote a book, Oath and Honor,
which I've not read.
I don't know if I will read or not.
Yeah, probably won't read it.
But she could also just be very well referring
to Trump's most recent comments,
where he basically said,
after day one, I won't be a dictator. But on day
one, I got some plans. Yeah. He's going to lock people up. He's going to close the border. He's
going to deport massive deportations. He's already said he would. The one thing I want to contend
with on this is this isn't sleepwalking into a dictatorship. Like you fucking, you rode this
Trump train before in 2016
with all the rest of those people.
You all followed him in.
So don't pretend, sleepwalking is a no fault activity, okay?
You can't control your fucking,
like the meat part of your brain just makes decisions for you.
And you don't get to be part of that decision structure, right?
You don't get to be part of that.
So it's not like somebody sleepwalks and you'd be like, man, dude, you fucking like poured a get to be part of that. So it's not like
somebody sleepwalks and you'd be like, man, dude, you fucking like poured a bunch of water on the
cat. You're an asshole. They'd be like, oh, you were sleepwalking. That's just how it works.
You're not at fault, right? But if you did that while you're awake, you're a fucker.
Right. Yeah. The same thing here. You were awake the whole fucking time. He was fucking,
he was rising in power and he was in power. You were awake the
whole fucking time. And now you want to pretend your eyes were closed the whole time. Now you
want to pretend you want to be like, Oh no, no, it wasn't me. It wasn't, it's not my fault.
Fuck your face. It's your fault. Fuck you forever. Yeah. Fuck, fuck her forever. The first
time double fuck everybody the second time. So a hundred percent like we talk like you you
you cannot be forgiven you can't be you cannot be forgiven for voting for trump you just can't
it's an incomprehensibly evil short-sighted stupid fucking thing to do so if you voted for trump
in 2016 like you were just an asshole in 2016 but But if I grant any grace at all,
it would be that like,
okay, people couldn't possibly have known all of the extent of their madness, right?
So like, fine.
Like nobody thought it would go as bad as it did.
But now here we are after four years
of a disastrous, murderous, awful presidency
with more scandal and incompetency than you can genuinely even
try to think about remembering in one brain.
And then the 2020 fucking insurrection.
And here we are with 92 felony counts leveled against this man.
And there are still people who are like dead set on voting for this guy and to dare to
call that sleepwalking now.
headset on voting for this guy and to dare to call that sleepwalking now.
It's like, even if I gave you a sleepwalking free pass part one, which is a bullshit pass,
but if I gave it to you in 16, I can't give it to you in 20.
And I super ultra double plus with fucking cheese cannot give it to you in 24.
You don't get it now. At this point, if you're voting Trump, you are a bad person.
You were a bad person the first time.
You were a intentionally bad person in 2020.
And now you're like flauntingly evil.
Now you're genuinely one of the people who would have ushered in a dictator in any of the countries where they've had a brutal dictator.
Yeah.
Any of them.
Yeah.
Name one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like this is like you're like a fucking Pinochet ap dictator. Yeah. Any of them. Yeah. Name one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like this is like,
you're like a fucking Pinochet apologist. Sure. It's like, there's no possible way if you're pro
Trump now that you have any like benefit of the doubt that you can pot. It's just all of that is
so gone. So I agree with you completely. That word galls me sleepwalking whose eyes are closed.
Yeah. Whose eyes are closed. Who's showing up to the polls?
And it's like, who's showing up to vote? And it's like, yeah, I don't really follow
the last eight years of obsessive American politics and destruction. And like, no,
just no to all that. And I think it goes back to what you were talking about earlier.
When you were talking about untruths, this is the exact same thing.
You're softening language to make it seem like
it's less than it is, right?
You're softening language to stop all the people
who are voting for him from hating you, right?
You're stopping that.
You're saying, oh, you know,
we're sleepwalking us, sleepwalking into it.
It's not, it's not anything you can control.
Abso-fucking-lut anything you can control. Absolutely not.
No, absolutely not.
No.
And she's always been this kind of divisive person.
Like she's been involved in the January 6th thing.
And then she was thrown out on her ear.
She's not a Democrat, Tom.
I know it, man.
She's not a Democrat.
She wasn't thrown out on her ear.
And then she was like, well, fuck you guys.
Then I'm changing my policies.
Absolutely not.
No, she's still 100% a Republican.
In fact, she's probably more Republican
than any of the MAGA people ever were.
She's like a straight arrow Republican
that is way more Republican than they ever could be.
All they are is culture war stuff.
That's all they are.
They don't care about any of the other stuff.
They don't care about the nuts and bolts
on how the government runs and how the government disenfranchises people. They don't care about any of the other stuff. They don't care about the nuts and bolts on how the government runs
and how the government disenfranchises people.
They don't care about that.
They just want to fight.
That's all they want.
She and her fucking dad was the architect
of a lot of American suffering.
Not just American suffering.
We're talking about world suffering, these people.
So these people are, they've been
the architects of a ton of different terrible things throughout our history. And she has always
been, always been on the side of republicanism. Never, never for a second should you give her
any pass whatsoever. No, none. Look, no respite for Cheney's. Right. Right. Just no, no respite for
Cheney's. No, no, no, like free pass for a Cheney's. You cannot sympathize with the Cheney's.
Not at all. Alternate to you, me and Einstein, but reality for everyone else.
So this story comes from the Washington Post. Wisconsin Trump electors set a lawsuit,
agreed Biden won in 2020.
Do they have to write it on a chalkboard a bunch of times?
Jesus Christ.
Three years later,
three years later,
it's like, okay,
I will accept historical reality
or go to jail.
If you twist my arm
and I have to basically
cop a plea
where I agree
that the fucking
water is wet
and the sky is blue
and the fucking election
wasn't stolen.
If I have to agree
to those things
and you've twisted my arm
oh God, hard enough.
Fine.
Fine, I'll do it.
Fine.
I'll do it.
But three years later
in a back page article. Right. Fine, I'll do it. But three years later. But three years.
In a back page article.
Right.
Like this isn't national news.
Nobody cares about this stuff now.
Yeah.
The people who believe the election was stolen
are always going to believe the election was stolen
no matter how many people are charged with stuff
and have to make these apologies publicly.
They don't care.
It's never going to change their mind.
And the people who know that all that stuff was bullshit,
it doesn't matter to them either.
The only people that are getting out of something
are the people who actually did a whole crime.
Yeah, I know.
And now they're like, well, I said I was sorry.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Well, it's like, it doesn't help if you recant
three years down the road when it doesn't matter anymore.
Yeah.
Like that recantation doesn't do anything
except for save your fucking skin.
They can't do-
This is cowardice.
I know, but they can't,
they can't like be involved in elections anymore
and shit like that.
I guess when Trump's running,
they're not allowed to be involved in any elections.
Like there's, so there's like some-
There's some teeth there, I guess.
There's some there, but at the same time with you,
I'm just like, no man, when it mattered, you still said
the same shit. And then finally,
when you're facing charges, like, no, I guess I was
wrong. Whoopsie. Yeah. And I guess like what
I'm saying is I'm going to your point about this being
like a back page article.
Like when these folks had
the ability to be
a meaningful voice, when they had the ability
to maybe like sway other
nutcases. Yeah.
They purposely didn't.
They held onto this until they were forced by order of law.
If you told me, like Tom, you have to say that Godzilla's in your bathtub or you'll go to prison.
I'd be like, great, man.
Fucking hook me up to a lie detector.
I know.
And I will tell you about Godzilla leaving fucking scales and his fucking pubes all over my bathtub.
Like I will. I'll tell you tell you about Godzilla leaving fucking scales and his fucking pubes all over my bathtub. Like, I will.
I'll tell you a story about it.
I feel like Godzilla's got a Brazilian going on.
I don't know, man.
Maybe he's got a landing strip, but that's as far as Godzilla's going.
He's got a Japanese, whatever that is.
I don't know if it's a Brazilian.
When he bends over, you see that red star. I just think, you know, we have this system that calls for a bunch of people who
volunteer to do something, right? And we're not finding people who in their mind, the most
important thing, no, not, let me rephrase this. I don't want to say this incorrectly.
We are not finding entirely people,
not an entire group of people
that are saying the most important thing
is that this is done correctly.
The most important thing is that
I keep my honor above all
and I am honorable in this process.
And if the person who I was very hoping won doesn't win,
that's okay.
The process had integrity.
Right.
Everyone involved in every election should have that.
That should be the thing they're doing.
Yeah.
The election integrity is the most important thing.
My candidate winning is secondary to the election integrity.
And we didn't have that last time. We saw that many people jumped in and started to play in
election games where their candidate didn't win and they wanted to change things and were willing
to throw their integrity out the window and sign shit and go be an elector somewhere and go do an
elector scheme in this
state or this state, go to, go to send something to Mike Pence in somewhere where they signed a
bunch of shit. There was, there's been a serious breach. And I don't know how you find people
that can't, that, that shouldn't be so easily swayed, but it's really scary that we have a
system where people don't take this more
seriously, where there isn't more, where it just seems like you could just be any old guy and be
like, well, I'm just going to say, I really think the election should have integrity. But as soon as
I get a chance, I'm going to ruin it for Biden or whatever. Yeah. Well, and I think that like,
for the most part, our democracy was saved because a tiny minority
or a tiny majority,
a slim majority of people
did the right thing.
Yeah.
The right thing was always
the easiest possible thing.
This like double secret
probation elector system
that like these states
tried to create
where it's like,
ah, it's a super ultra secret
alternate elector.
Like all that shit was like wildly fantastically illegal.
Like all of that shit was wildly fantastically illegal.
I'm glad that these folks are like getting their arms twisted
into coming, like saying out loud real things.
But it's like, yeah, like fucking correction on page 12.
Like when this was big news, they were on the news
feeding a whole bunch of people in the fucking electorate
a bunch of dumb shit that these fools have continued to believe.
And like, yeah, now they recanted three years later.
It's fucking, it's too little too late.
Yeah.
If you had Gator, you know that nick loves the cock
this story comes to right wing watch christocrat rick scarborough declares that a sodomite will
always reflect it in his countenance cecil when you put this story in the show notes
i laughed out loud reading it to myself out loud so i can't wait for the audio the audio is
genuinely amazing so here we go when the audio. Oh, the audio is genuinely amazing. So here we go.
When the homosexual comes out of the closet and begins bragging about his activities, demanding not only acceptance, but endorsement,
that is a nation that God is taking his hand off of. And that's exactly who we are.
And isn't it interesting? The show of their countenance does witness against them.
Here's a principle that I want you to never forget.
Sin often begins manifesting itself even by the transformation of your characteristics.
And about 80% of the time before a homosexual opens his mouth,
you can see by the look on his face that he's, I won't
say the word gay. It almost slipped out.
A
sodomite will always reflect it
in his countenance. You got to pause this.
Is he saying he's got gaydar? That's literally
what I wrote down too. He's bragging
about his gaydar, guys.
That's what it is. Here's, let me translate
that. So when I meet a guy from Grindr.
All right.
I want, like, he is saying, like, you can tell who gay people are by just by looking at them.
Just by looking at them, you can tell how gay they are. Like, on a scale from one to gay, he knows.
And he also says, says like people who sin,
it like evidently changes your facial features.
He's saying they're wicked.
You think about the language he's using.
He's using biblical language to say,
you can tell the wicked by who they are, right?
That's what he's saying.
Because he thinks that somebody's sexual orientation is an affect of their evilness, right?
That's what he thinks.
So he's saying, when I meet an evil person, I know it.
Yeah, well, and I think he is like expressly saying
that like, that their countenance, their faces change.
And I'm like, man, this isn't Pinocchio.
They say Pinocchio, what the fuck?
When you tell a lie, your nose doesn't grow. When you're gay, your dick doesn't grow. I'll be real honest Yeah, dude. They say Pinocchio? What the fuck? When you tell a lie, your nose doesn't grow.
When you're gay, your dick doesn't grow.
I'll be real honest, though, man.
Tell you what, like, I've met a lot of really good-looking gay guys in my life,
like really handsome gay dudes.
And I'm like, give me that countenance.
Like, hook a brother up with a countenance.
You know what I mean?
All the time, I'm like, all the time I'll be like, man, I want to look gay.
I'd be hot, dude.
I would be hot. You
know what I mean? I wish it. I wish I kind of wish I had it. You know, I wish I had the look,
the gay look. You go to like, whatever it is. I'll tell you what, I just, a couple of guys I went to
a grad school with that I'm still friends with. And they're like, Tom, we're 15 years out of
grad school. And they are still like like absolutely like whipped buff. They're always
taking pictures with their shirt. They were married in grad school and they're taking pictures with
their shirt off in like Cancun. They're like drinking stuff. And they're both like the best
looking dudes you've ever seen. And you're like, man, if that's what, if that's what he's talking
about, I'd be like, I don't know, man. I'd take a little bit of that. I'd take a little bit of your
gay mojo or whatever it is. I'm heterosexual as fuck.
I look like a puff pastry.
Are you kidding me?
Like, if you poke my belly, I can't help it.
I'm the same, man.
Are you kidding me?
I'm the same.
I'll be wicked as fuck if I can get some abs out of it.
And if he doesn't, naturally, he'll learn it by those he hangs around with.
And they have rewarded themselves with evil,
but the culture that's embraced them has also rewarded themselves with the consequences.
We are spending billions of dollars.
What does that even mean?
Rewarded themselves with the consequences?
I think what he's suggesting is evil is more fun.
Okay.
I think that's what he's suggesting.
No, I mean, that's fair. Evil is more fun. I'll agree.
Yeah.
...to keep these sodomites alive
and we should... Hold on. What does he say
there? He's talking, he's obliquely talking about
AIDS now. That's what he's going to shift into. Okay.
Is an oblique discussion of AIDS. Okay.
Yeah. Naturally, he'll learn it
by those he hangs around with.
And they have rewarded
themselves with evil evil but the culture
that's embraced them has also rewarded themselves with the consequences we are spending billions of
dollars to keep these sodomites alive and we should out of compassion how magnanimous of you
listen we're spending billions to keep the sodomites alive.
And we should.
Who's spending billions though?
And we should.
Like,
first off,
let's,
we're all pretending
that HIV is gay only now.
I know.
I guess we're all pretending
that.
That's the worst.
Yeah,
okay,
whatever.
They still call it the gay play.
Your crazy fucking worldview
will just buy into that,
whatever.
But also like,
we're paying billions.
What are you talking about?
We're paying billions of dollars.
The famously magnanimous
American health care system.
Yeah, no, sure.
Yeah, absolutely.
Like everybody else,
doesn't matter what happens
to you in the American
health care system,
you're fucked.
But if you have HIV,
they'll take care of you.
Yeah, if you're-
It's on me, actually.
It's on you,
it's on everybody.
Yeah, if you ever go
into the emergency room,
they got that thing that says like, if it's an emergency, we have to treat you. And me, actually. It's on you, it's on everybody. Yeah, if you ever go into the emergency room, they got that thing that says,
if it's an emergency, we have to treat you.
And then there's a smaller plaque that says,
also if you're gay.
Yeah.
It's small.
It's smaller.
It's a smaller plaque, yeah.
So you have to really squint.
You have to have good eyesight.
In your very handsome eyes.
But it could be cured overnight by repentance.
So why not then?
Like, why hasn't anybody cured it?
Well, because they don't repent.
Oh, you have to repent, not somebody else repenting.
Yeah, you got it.
All right.
Okay, no, that's fair, yeah.
And I know for sure that like if I were uh sick with aids and i were religious none of those
people have ever prayed no not a single time not a single time they've never right yeah be cured
overnight by repentance a change of lifestyle and there would be a certain death among those
who've been practicing but i believe god would so reveal himself that he'd find the cure.
And instead of just keeping them alive with drugs,
they'd find a genuine cure
if they hadn't already aborted the one that had the cure.
Oh, throw an abortion there at the end too.
Throw it at, so we got-
What kind of dick is God?
Who can see back in the past
and all the way in the future
and knows all the outcomes.
And he's like,
you know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to fuck him.
I'm going to put the smartest baby ever
in one of them wombs
and he's going to get aborted.
And that's on you, boys.
I was going to put the smartest one out there.
I think one of the things
that he's backwards saying
is he's real fucking big mad
that there are high quality antiretrovirals
that keep people alive indefinitely
with undetectable viral loads.
You're absolutely right.
What he's really mad about
is that his gay plague didn't work.
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
No, I don't disagree.
Science came along and was like,
actually, that's nothing.
You're wrong.
That's evil.
We fixed it.
Take these pills.
You'll have an undetectable viral load.
You can essentially live out mostly a normal life.
Yeah, pretty much a normal life.
And he's pissed about it.
Yeah, he's very upset.
What he wants to see is people die and suffer
so that they can repent,
so they can beg and plead on their knees
in fear and anguish for their lives
so that he can feel like,
see,
I knew you'd come running,
motherfucker.
Which tells you that
these religions
that purport this shit
are religions of suffering
and religions,
blood religions,
right?
These are religions
that are made of suffering.
When they talk,
I mean,
you talked about like
years ago,
they were talking about
how Mother Teresa
was a terrible person, right?
Because she reveled in the suffering, right?
The suffering was the point.
And I think for a lot of these people,
the suffering is the point.
Yeah.
And you need to suffer if you do so.
You have to suffer.
And if we make the world better
by making it with less suffering, that makes them mad.
Super mad. He's obviously upset that science came in with drugs and has, you know,
ameliorated the effect of this. But I guarantee this guy's on fucking seven statins. You know
what I mean? I look at this guy and I'm like, I bet you take drugs to prolong your life.
He's on Lipitor or something.
Right. That's what I mean. Like, get the fuck out of here. Do I think this guy and I'm like, I bet you take drugs to prolong your life. He's on Lipitor or something. Right, that's what I mean. Like, get the
fuck out of here. Do I think this guy doesn't take
antibiotics if he gets fucking
strep throat? Of course you do. Everybody does. They all do.
They all just lie about it.
They are lying.
That's sick, dude. You're gonna stick
a turkey base in your dick?
This is bonkers crazy
bullshit. I had never heard of this before, Tom.
This is bonkers crazy bullshit. Before today, I had this before, Tom. This is bonkers crazy bullshit.
Before today, I had never heard that this was something that they were upset about.
This is from the Friendly Atheist blog.
Oklahoma Senate candidate, parents who use IVF are waging an assault against God.
Let's play it because there is audio.
Today, I want to ask and answer the question what must you and i do to love i our ivf embryonic
neighbors as ourselves my aim today is with our creator's help graciously to bring before you so
this is in vitro fertilization people right so? So they're talking about, this is something I had no idea.
They are against IVF.
And if you stop and think about it, it's like, well, of course they are.
Yeah.
Of course they are.
But like, keep in mind that like the destruction of Roe was always a first step.
It was always just a first step.
This is, they've come out and said it now.
Like they're, they come for abortion. That's awful enough. They've come out and said it now. They
come for abortion. That's awful enough.
They're going to take, like these same people,
they're going to take contraception.
They're going to take a choice on who you want to be with.
They're going to take away your chance to
have a child
outside of natural procreation.
I don't even know if I'm saying that.
I don't want to say that in a way that's like...
That it's unnatural procreation. I don't want to say that it's way that's like that it's unnatural procreation. I don't want to say
that it's like
in some way
that I'm taking up their point.
I'm just using the language
that I'm using.
Your conscience
the harsh realities of IVF
so you will respond by faith.
Is your name Dusty Deavers?
Dude, I know.
Dusty Deavers.
Okay, I just wanted to say it.
That's gotta be.
I needed affirmation that that was his name. It sounds like a rodeo Okay. I just wanted to say it out loud. That's got to be. I needed affirmation that that was his name.
It sounds like a rodeo clown, but I'm going to leave it alone.
Is it weird to preach with your porn name?
That seems weird.
Is he a rodeo clown and a porn guy?
You've got it.
Wouldn't those names work well for rodeo and porn?
I'll tell you what.
Both people wear chaps.
In faith, by loving your embryonic neighbor.
Why should this matter to you?
Well, we've heard why it should matter.
Millions of our embryonic neighbors unnecessarily are being led to slaughter every year by IVF and assisted reproductive technologies.
And countless others are cryo-incarcerated in frozen prisons.
Cryo-incarcerated.
They're in their little fortress of solitude, like fucking Superman or whatever, after he
throws the fucking crystal and it's falling around outside of him. It's like fucking Han Solo frozen in that carbonite or whatever after he throws the fucking crystal and it's falling around outside of him.
It's like fucking
Han Solo
frozen in that carbonite
or whatever.
No, it's fucking Luke
hanging upside down
on the womp.
There's a fucking,
there's an IVF wompa there
who's got a bunch of people
stuck to the ceiling.
Frozen incarceration
or whatever.
Amazing.
Cryo prisons.
Amazing.
God, you gotta really
have a vivid imagination if you're one of these guys. This is fucking sci-fi shit. This is genuineo prison. Amazing. You gotta, you gotta really have a vivid imagination.
If you're one of these guys,
fucking sci-fi,
genuine sci-fi shit.
Like you're not a thing yet.
No,
right.
Not a thing.
There's nothing there.
There,
but I'm just blown away that this is,
that this is where they're going.
This is the hill they're dying on.
They're like,
you know what?
Somebody out there in our church wants a kid.
They want a kid that is their kid, right?
Because for some people, that's very important
that it's biologically their kid.
There's plenty of kids out there.
Just like, you know, there's plenty of dogs
to get from the shelter.
There's plenty of kids out there.
There's a lot of shelters and they're overflowing,
but we don't care.
This is an opportunity for somebody in your flock to procreate.
Yep.
And you're taking that away from them?
Yeah.
Like, these are people in your, I mean, you're clearly upset about the people in your flock that are doing this.
Yeah, well, like, he's not only, he's condemning them as, like, torturers, basically.
Yeah. Like they are,
because the thing is like,
in order to think that this stuff is anything,
they have to think of this stupid fucking idea of a soul.
Yeah.
And that like,
as soon as the moment of conception occurs,
that this,
in this moment,
there is this like whole and perfect soul,
which is imbued within these meat cells to be held in
trust through gestation until the point of birth and then on to become people. And that's such a,
just genuinely stupid fucking concept, right? And we don't apply that concept in the reverse,
right? We don't apply that concept for people that are dying or these people would be opposing
human organ transplant, right? That you would have to,
by the same logic, you would
have to oppose human organ transplant.
Transfusions. But they don't. Transfusions.
The Jehovah's Witnesses do. Yeah.
Like, they would have to oppose
pulling the plug on brain-dead grandma.
They would have to oppose all of that stuff.
But they only apply it on the front
end of the transaction. And they apply
it, but they don't believe it.
This is all about shame.
This is all about control.
This is all about like making people feel bad
for their natural choices.
Yeah.
And it's also, what it is doing
is some of their people in their flock will suffer.
And they're going to suffer in a way,
what they're going to,
they're going to suffer because they're going what they're going to, they're going to suffer because
they're going to be not able to have a kid.
Even though there's plenty of science out there
that can help them have a kid,
they're not going to be able to have a kid.
But more so,
it does,
they're collateral damage.
I don't think he cares about those people.
What he wants to do
is he wants to make sure
that my gay friend
can't do this with some woman
who he's not romantically in love with to have a kid.
Yeah.
That's what he's preventing.
He's willing to throw everybody that he knows
under the bus.
What he wants to prevent is the thing,
he's willing to,
I mean, there's so much collateral damage, right?
Because the thing that I mentioned
doesn't happen very often, but they're willing to, I mean, there's so much collateral damage, right? Because the thing that I mentioned doesn't happen very often.
Right.
But they're willing to
put the kibosh
on the whole fucking thing
as long as they can prevent
those few times
that it happens
outside of the,
what they think is right.
I think you're exactly right.
I think you're exactly right.
And he sounds like
a goddamn crazy person.
He does.
He sounds like a genuine,
he sounds like he's,
he seriously sounds like
he's reading a sci-fi novel. Yeah. Cryo prisons. Cryo prisons. Yeah. He sounds like a genuine... He sounds like he's... He seriously sounds like he's reading a sci-fi novel.
Yeah.
Cryo-prisons.
Cryo-prisons.
Yeah, he sounds like...
It sounds like a bad sci-fi novel.
It does.
I have to think.
All that time, it was your cup that was poisoned.
They were both poisoned.
I spent the last few years building up an immunity to Iocane powder.
So, this story comes from Vice News.
People are having seizures
after drinking shots
of gas station heroin,
according to the FDA.
I had no idea this existed.
Like, I don't very often
go into the gas station anymore.
Me neither.
I'm always paid the pump guy.
I'm paid the pump guy.
And I don't,
I used to go into the gas station to pay
and then like go use the convenience store.
But I rarely buy anything
from the convenience store anymore.
But when I do go in,
and I guess like I'm aware peripherally
that there's like this new pop-up section
of like horny boner pills
and like, you know,
super trucker energy speed
and all this stuff.
And I've read a bunch of stuff
that like a lot of this stuff is wildly unread.
Like there's like,
the fucking like gas station boner pills
are full of legitimate pharmaceuticals,
like Cialis and Viagra.
Are they really?
Yeah, they're like shipped in from China.
They're full of the same chemicals
as like Cialis and Viagra
in like wildly varying
and sometimes dangerous doses.
So I read this thing,
you buy like three bottles of them,
then they test them and they can have like fantastically different amounts
because this entire system is unregulated.
They don't care.
So they're just like, yeah, whatever.
Like fucking stick a bunch of chemicals in here.
Stick a bunch of boner juice in this one, a little less boner juice in that one.
So like some of these things are serious medicines
that are being sold
over the counter
at the goddamn gas station.
And now there's this like
Neptune's,
what is it?
Neptune's fun or?
Fix, I think.
Neptune's fix.
Yeah.
And it's this chemical,
I'm going to mispronounce,
called TN nepotine.
Yeah.
And I've never heard of it before,
but I guess it hits
the opioid receptor
just like, you know,
opioids do.
And it's fucking
people up. Well, the worst part is
that the amount they say on the side,
and I'm going to put this on the big screen
so they can see it, people can see it, the amount they say
on the side is just take a few drops.
The problem is they put it in a five-hour energy
thing. So it seriously looks like a
thing. That's what five-hour
energy is, right? You open it up and it tastes
like fucking death. Have you had one? And then you get, yes, it's the worst tasting stuff. I've never had one.
Do they give you energy? It's the worst tasting stuff. I, you know, I, I took it one night when
I was, I was driving, I was with a friend and we were driving to Pennsylvania and it was a late
night and we were driving there. And I remember he was like, yeah, he had brought some with him
and I was yawn and he's like, here, he had brought some with him and I was yawn
and he's like,
here,
drink one of these
and I don't remember
it keeping me up
or not at all.
I don't remember,
but I remember him drinking one
and handing one to me
and,
you know,
I stayed up anyway.
You know what I mean?
I was driving,
so I didn't crash the car.
Right.
But I don't remember it
like doing like trucker speed
to me or anything.
I wasn't,
I don't remember it.
Like yellow jackets or whatever.
But it tastes terrible.
Like it genuinely tastes terrible,
but it's because it's just like,
I mean,
just tastes like,
like barely covered up chemicals.
That's what it tastes like.
It tastes like,
it tastes like,
it tastes like a shot of Windex.
Yeah,
that was going to say,
like it went under your,
under your sink
and you made a little potion
of like Windex
and like Lysol
and then you kind of
took a dropper of vanilla
and you put it in there
and then you hand it.
That's what it tastes like.
It tastes terrible.
So like Red Bull.
Yeah, Red Bull, exactly.
That's exactly it.
But these things look like five-hour energy.
They look like that same bottle shape.
And so when you buy it,
people are now chugging the whole thing.
And it could be they're chugging the whole thing.
Maybe they're paying attention to it
and doing a couple of drops and then it's not doing as much as it was before. And so be they're chugging the whole thing. Maybe they're paying attention to it and doing a couple drops
and then it's not doing
as much as it was before
and so now they're
taking more and more of it.
That's a possibility.
But this is,
this is really,
really dangerous
to just sell to somebody.
You know,
you're selling something
that can put somebody
in a fucking seizure.
Yeah.
And somehow
the government is just like,
no, that's cool.
We can just sell that shit
wherever.
It doesn't matter.
We're not going to pay attention to it.
And there's kind of like a distressingly how the government is just like, no, that's cool. We can just sell that shit wherever. It doesn't matter. We're not going to pay attention to it.
Yeah, and there's kind of like a distressingly increasing amount of this junk being sold.
There's the synthetic weed, which is like, there's a whole host of problems with spice and synthetic weed.
Yeah.
They're like, Kratom is available for sale.
Just about like all these like weird CBD Kratom head shop things that are popping up.
Like don't buy weird shit from the gas station or from the fucking guy at the weird head shop.
None of them know what they're talking about.
None of them know.
You can't.
They can't know.
They can't know.
It is just like we've talked about on the show before.
These are unregulated industries.
You don't know what you're getting.
It doesn't matter what it says on the bottle.
Yeah, sure.
It makes them.
You're absolutely right.
The bottle could say anything.
It doesn't matter.
There was a big story not that long ago, maybe six months ago, about gummy melatonin.
Melatonin is a sleep aid.
So it is basically the same thing as a naturally occurring hormone in your body that
helps you fall asleep. And like they have them in pill form and they have them in gummy form.
People take them as supplements. There was a story six, eight months ago where they did some
testing on some of these gummies and some of them were containing 10, 20, 30 times as much
melatonin as what was listed on the bottle. So people thought they were taking-
Because none of it, none of it, the pills or none of it, none of it is regulated.
It's all unregulated.
Yeah.
It's all unregulated.
So you have to look at like a bottle of this stuff and be like, doesn't matter what it
says on the bottle.
It could be full of anything.
We've covered stories on this show where like people were selling like supplements and it
was like the grass they had out behind the warehouse.
Remember that? Doesn't matter.
It was like ragweed and like fucking dog
thistle and shit.
The same thing goes for homeopathic
products.
We talked about homeopathic products.
They wound up putting sugar pills in
but then some of them had some night
shade or something in them and some kids died
because of it. Because they were allergic
to something that the kids got because of homeostasis. Because there's no regulation
behind any of this stuff. Yep. I take a supplement called omega-3 fatty acids.
And I did a whole bunch of reading and there's a whole lot of evidence to support the taking
of omega-3s. They're basically the same kind of fatty acids that are found in a lot of oily fish.
Sure. I don't get enough oily fish in my diet.
And these have like a lot of benefits to them.
But I also found out that you could just get a prescription for them.
And then they are purchased at CVS and they are exactly what they fucking say.
They are what they say.
Yeah.
So I just call my doctor.
I'm like, hey, I'd like to take omega threes.
And he's like, great idea.
And he writes me a prescription for him.
And now I'm comfortable taking them. Whereas before it's like, I don't want to go to CVS and buy something called fish
oil. I don't know what fish it is. I don't know how much mercury is in it. I don't know what other
bioaccumulated toxins that come from fish have been fucking squoze into each one of those capsules.
So like, even when there is evidence that some kind of a supplementation has a positive effect on your health, you still can't trust that like you could just go out and buy it.
Right. So even for something like but in some cases you can go out and get a prescription for it and then you can trust it.
All right. That's going to wrap it up for this week.
All right, that's going to wrap it up for this week.
This upcoming Thursday, we're going to have a long-form show that's going to be on aliens.
We read an article, or three articles, actually, on aliens,
and all those are read to patrons by Tom.
So you can check out if you're a patron.
You can go listen to those.
They've been posted for patrons.
They will tomorrow.
I think on Tuesday is when Ian posts them.
So if you're a patron on Tuesday,
you'll get the articles that Tom read.
We're going to put them all,
I think bundle them all in one bit of audio,
which will probably be around 30 or 40 minutes of audio.
And then we're going to talk about it on Thursday.
So come back on Thursday.
We'll talk about the alien stories that we read.
And if you just want to read them analog,
we'll have them in the show notes.
All right, that's going to wrap it up for this Monday.
We'll see you Thursday, but we're going to leave you like, we'll have them in the show notes. All right, that's going to wrap it up for this Monday. We'll see you Thursday.
But we're going to leave you like we always do with the Skeptic's Creed.
Credulity is not a virtue.
It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue, hypno-Babylon bullshit.
Couched in scientician, double bubble, toil and trouble, pseudo-quasi-alternative,
acupunctuating, pressurized, stereogram, pyramidal, free energy,
healing, water, downward spiral, brain dead, pan, sales pitch, late night info docutainment,
Leo, Pisces, cancer cures, detox, reflex, foot massage, death in towers, tarot cards,
psychic healing, crystal balls, Bigfoot, Yeti, aliens, churches, mosques and synagogues,
temples, dragons, giant worms, Atlantis, dolphins, truthers, birthers, witches, wizards, vaccine nuts,
shaman healers, evangelists, conspiracy, doublespeak, stigmata, nonsense.
Expose your signs.
Thrust your hands.
Bloody, evidential, conclusive. Thrust your hands. Bloody.
Evidential.
Conclusive.
Doubt even this.
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