Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 747: Gun Liability Insurance, Mayorkas Impeachment
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We got to strike again, Tom.
Strike.
Here's what happened.
And this is so- This is amazing.
This is so funny.
So Monday morning, I wake up
and I almost always wake up to a couple of notifications
that our show posted
and that it got sent to a different couple feeds,
et cetera, et cetera.
And always in the evening,
that evening of Sunday to early morning,
when Ian posts the show to the feed,
he's also getting ready for our YouTube,
which is later in the day.
So our show audio launches in the morning.
Yeah.
And then our YouTube video of this show that we're recording
posts at night.
So nine o'clock at night on Monday on YouTube and on Twitch.
Well, you have to upload it ahead of time.
Sure.
And it wasn't actually released yet.
And we got a strike, a content strike on our page.
Before it was uploaded?
I'm pretty sure it's before it's released because the content strike came in
and it was for medical misinformation.
And so the first thing I thought,
I was like, fuck, what did we talk about?
And I'm trying to tax my brain thinking,
did we even talk about medicine?
I don't think we did.
So I go to look and now,
before they used to just be like,
content strike, go fuck yourself.
Right, go eat yourself, yeah.
Well, now they send you a timestamp.
I saw that in the email.
So I was like, oh, well, timestamp.
And it was late in the show.
And I was like, what the hell?
So I listened to it.
And Tom, at the end of the skeptics creed,
you say the word vaccine.
And then you say, after you say vaccine,
you say the word nuts.
And what they thought was you were decrying vaccines
when in fact the poem itself starts out with
credulity is not a virtue.
And then it ends, the poem ends
after listing a group of credulous things with nonsense, right?
So it starts very strong
with a line that talks about credulity,
lists credulous things,
and then ends near the end
with a line, nonsense.
Their bot couldn't figure it out.
No.
So I appealed it
and they rejected it within seconds.
Within seconds
they rejected it.
I kind of admire
how bad that system is.
I was like,
oh,
and I couldn't even
write anything in.
We have an appeals process.
You used to be able to do
like a process
where you could be like,
oh,
I'll just type in
and explain it.
And then they would
just ignore it.
But I at least had
an opportunity to be like,
no,
you're not listening.
So I was like,
fine,
I'll go to Twitter again.
And for some reason, Twitter still works like this.
I posted it and I posted a couple of places.
And after about four days worth of retweets,
finally YouTube came in and said, what's the problem?
And I said, you took this video down.
Every single video we have has the exact same language in it.
Like every video.
How many videos do we have?
We have over 800 videos.
And the best one
is the one that I linked back to them,
which is only the Skeptic's Creed.
So years ago,
we uploaded only the Skeptic's Creed.
And I linked it back and I said,
this one's up and it doesn't have a strike.
And I bet they're like,
well, now we'll give them 800 strikes.
That's what I thought too.
I was like, am I fucking up?
Yeah.
Am I fucking up?
Is there going to be a guy
who's like licking a pad
and being like,
let me turn the page
on your number of demerits.
This is like,
it's like walking up to the cop
and be like, if you like that bank I robbed, you on your number of demerits. This is like walking up to the cop and be like,
if you like that bank I robbed, you'll love these other banks I robbed.
I know I'm parked in front of an hydrant here,
but I got to put my bag of money in the back of the car that I just stole.
But I was like, I said that and I said, look,
it's a poem about how being credulous is bad.
Like the vaccine nuts
that are being referred to
are the people
that don't take vaccines.
It's so funny
because the way the poem's written,
it's so obvious.
And it's not,
it might not be obvious
from the writing as much, right?
Maybe it's not.
Maybe it's not.
But when you hear Tom
and the disdain he has
for the things he's talking about.
It's so fucking obvious if you're a human being.
It's so obvious.
But in any case, until, here's what's going to happen.
They're looking into it.
So there's a possibility.
There's my faith in the world.
Tom, I am not going to say whether or not that's going to turn into anything.
They're looking into it.
Supposedly, this strike goes away in May sometime,
so we will not upload anything at all to YouTube until this strike goes away.
So if you're hearing this and we are not on YouTube, that is why.
Because if we do and we get struck again, they'll kill the channel.
And we don't want that to happen.
Because all that back catalog everything's gone
it's all gone
yeah
and so we're just gonna
we're just gonna
what we're gonna do is
we're gonna
take the foot off the gas
on YouTube
until they
until the strike goes away
and then we'll continue
uploading there again
but their
their
amazing algorithm
that we were praising
a couple weeks ago
by the way
I know
decided to
because at least they do
some content moderation.
It's just that they do it like the president of fucking El Salvador.
Everyone's in jail.
I'll fix this problem.
And you go to jail.
And you go to jail.
And you go to jail.
Look under your seat.
It's jail.
Oh, so now I'm a bad parent just because I hate my kids.
This story comes from the New York Times.
Mother of Michigan gunman found guilty of manslaughter.
So the story is a little more complicated than that.
But this is a school shooter.
Yeah.
Two years ago.
Yeah, a couple years ago.
15-year-old.
He shot and killed, I think, four people in his high school.
Prior to doing that, though, he had spoken and texted with his mom about the demons,
about how he thought clothes were moving themselves around his room.
She responded by not sending him to therapy, but then they bought him a fucking gun.
And I wanted to talk about this story.
There's a little more. Can I add just one more detail? He was searching at school for ammunition
and different types of ammunition. It was caught in the school filters. And they approached his
mother and told his mother and then he got in trouble for it.
And the text between them afterwards was she told him you have to be more careful.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, not like, hey, this is inappropriate.
What the fuck is going on?
Or, let me take your gun.
Right.
You know, like, you shouldn't have access to that if you're searching for ammunition at school.
You know, and then, like, also, the day and then like also the day of the shooting,
the day of the shooting,
he had written on a math test or a math quiz
or a piece of paper worksheet or something.
He had written something like,
like something to the effect of like,
the voices won't stop.
I'm in terrible pain.
Why won't somebody help me?
And there was a picture of like a gun
and blood and a dead body.
And they called his parents down.
And they were like, well, you know,
they were worried about him, you know, they were
worried about him hurting himself rather than hurting other people. And his parents went back
to fucking work that day. And then after the shooting, they immediately texted him and were
like, Hey, don't do it. And then they fucking skipped town because they knew they were going
to get caught. They ran away. They skipped town. So they got arrested. And they got charged with involuntary manslaughter.
Yeah.
And I thought about this because, like, I am not a throw people in jail guy.
I know you're not either.
Yeah.
I'm more than you are.
But I'm not a just throw everybody in jail guy.
I don't think that's a solution to most problems.
But what the fuck are you doing buying a 15-year-old kid a goddamn handgun?
But what the fuck are you doing buying a 15-year-old kid a goddamn handgun?
America has gotten so fucking out of hand, man, with this gun culture bullshit that we are giving.
I'm thinking of my kids when they were 14.
My kid, like, I wouldn't give them a fucking chef's knife that was just there.
Were you shooting guns at a young age?
I did not shoot a gun until I was 17 or 18.
17 or 18? Yeah, 17 or 18. Shotguns. Well, age? I did not shoot a gun until I was 17 or 18. 17 or 18?
Yeah, 17 or 18.
Shotguns.
Well, no, I did shoot other guns.
Always supervised with family, all close by in a very controlled environment. And you didn't own one yourself?
I didn't own a gun.
The first gun I owned, I bought from you.
Yeah.
A shotgun.
Gosh, we were in our late 20s.
Late 20s.
Yeah.
I also know that there are people who buy guns for children, buy guns for their, you know, whatever, however they want to, you know, and we live in a culture where like there is a deep, it's like a deep cultural tradition for that to happen not getting rid of the guns. No.
We can't, it's hard to even legislate or enforce those types of rules. Even if you had them, that a kid couldn't have a gun or shoot a gun or whatever.
Especially in these sort of rural enclaves where lots of people have guns at like five or whatever.
So those rules aren't going to
come up. But the thing that we're trying to protect against is just random killing, right?
Random murder by somebody who's clearly going through some severe issues. And one way to do
that is to make it so other parents see that and see, holy shit, that person bought their kid a gun.
They could go to jail.
And so I think that there's a benefit to it in some ways because this person is in many ways responsible.
They had many opportunities to get off.
There was an off-ramp multiple times in this.
There were so many in this. And they could have
done something, and they
didn't. Yeah. Very intentionally
they didn't. Yeah, they just didn't.
Very intentionally they did not. And they knew
they had fucked up because they ran.
Yeah. You know, they knew they had fucked up because
as soon as they heard a shooting, they didn't know who did it,
but they immediately texted their kid
saying like, fuck, don't do this. So like, if I heard there was a school shooting, I wouldn't be
like messaging Finn, like, Hey, are you shooting the school? I'd be terrified for his safety.
Cause I would know it was not my son, or at least I would be, I can't imagine it would be right.
Yeah. But like, I also want to point out that there's an enormous difference between the
tradition of giving a kid a hunting rifle or shotgun versus a fucking handgun.
You're right.
You're right.
A handgun is a different thing.
And like, I don't think you should just throw the word gun in a bucket and treat every item like they're the same item.
I agree.
I agree.
I think you're right.
Yeah.
Handguns are specifically more dangerous than just about everything else because of their concealability.
Because you can grab it and throw it in your backpack.
Because you can tuck it under your waistband.
Because you can carry it with you wherever the fuck you want to carry.
They are fantastically simple devices.
And a handgun, you can hold 15 rounds in a clip comfortably.
You know, a hunting rifle or shotgun?
No, they don't work the same way.
They're big.
They're unwieldy.
They're not concealable.
They often,
I mean,
I'm talking about hunting rifles,
right?
Not AR-15s.
You're going to stuff it
down your pants, right?
Like,
is that a rifle down your,
or are you just happy to see me?
I'm reminded of us
shooting recently
and we went out
to shoot trap.
You and I went out
to go shoot trap.
And we went with a friend of ours
and I have a gun that has a very particular way
you have to load the ammunition.
And if you don't load the ammunition in my shotgun
with the tip of your finger,
the catch underneath will certainly gouge
the back knuckle of your finger.
Like a lot.
Really badly, right?
But you've got to know how to use this gun.
Yeah.
And my first thought when you were saying that was,
could you imagine you're trying to load this thing quickly.
You're like, fuck, it bit my finger.
Oh, I pinched myself.
I pinched myself.
You guys had such a hard time doing it.
Yeah, I'm not used to it. it takes a very specific motion to do it.
And you have to do it the perfect way
because if you don't do it perfectly,
you shoot a round back into it.
The round shoots on the ground.
It bites into your hand.
There's all these things that can happen.
And that's just one shotgun, right?
Think about if somebody had a bolt action rifle
or something that just had two or three bullets in it that you could then, you know, cycle through.
That's so different from, you know, a handgun with 14, 15 bullets in it.
Yeah.
That you can easily just rifle.
And it's pull point.
Yeah.
Not a lot of recoil.
Back on target quickly.
Handguns are super dangerous.
Handguns are crazy, crazy dangerous.
What the fuck is anybody doing? It's not a hunting thing. What are you doing giving that to a goddamn
kid? Yeah. I think we need to make, we need to make people feel really uncomfortable about their
own culpability in engaging with gun culture, right? So that if you want to engage with gun
culture, you should be like, look, I'm going to make decisions that are only for me.
Because I don't want to make a decision and then hand off my next 20 years of freedom to your next actions.
Because I think if that law were in place or that precedent had been set, I think a lot of people would be like, yeah, I'm not going to buy my kid a gun.
I'm not going to do it.
He can buy his own gun if he wants to when he turns 21. I think handguns people will be like, yeah, I'm not going to buy my kid a gun. Like, I'm just, I'm not going to do it.
Like, he can buy his own gun if he wants to when he turns 21.
I think handguns in most states are 21.
And again, like, what the fuck?
It's 15.
You can't drive a car, man.
I was just going to bring up a car analogy.
And I'm just curious, like,
what happens if your kid drives their car
into somebody and ruins their house?
Like, your insurance is on the hook for that.
Like that's-
Assuming that I insure my kid.
Yeah, yeah.
And if you didn't, I would imagine you would be on the hook for that because he's a kid.
Yeah.
Well, like I remember, so I didn't start driving until I was 18.
When I started driving, I had to get my own insurance.
My dad didn't put me on his insurance.
So I don't, I've to get my own insurance. My dad didn't put me on his insurance. So I don't,
I've never been on my parents' insurance. I don't know now that I'm thinking about it,
if my kids... Well, after 18, we're talking
about high school kids. That's what I'm saying. I don't know now
that I'm thinking about it, if high school kids can
even get their own insurance. Yeah. Or if they
have to go on their parents' insurance. I don't know
that. Yeah. But yeah, like, it goes,
it, like, hits your insurance as the, as the
grown-up, that's your insurance. And your premium premiums go up and you're on the hook for difference.
If he didn't have insurance or he took that car and he was out joyriding, let's say he took a car
that would come back on you. Like it would, I think it probably would. It would like for,
for any damages, I would guarantee that would come back on you. Well, I mean, think about like
guardian, you're responsible for them. A bartender can be prosecuted
for over-serving somebody and letting them drive.
Yeah.
Because we know that we have a larger responsibility
for the safety of other people.
Sure.
And yet we've been so reluctant
to extend that concept into gun culture
because we're so afraid of upsetting the goddamn gun nuts.
Because they claim every single thing is a step too far.
Everything is a boiling frog, every single piece of it.
And really, they just don't want any restrictions.
That's what they want, is no restrictions.
A gun in every pot.
Yeah, a gun in every pot.
A gun in every pot.
A gun in every pot, baby.
And this next story, Cecil, from Fox News,
Maryland bill would force gun owners
to get $300,000 liability insurance
to wear or carry a weapon.
I couldn't love this.
The only way I could like this more is if the insurance policy were higher.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
And the one thing I'm leery about is the same thing I think people that are far left when they get guns are leery about,
is that you are turning this into a privilege thing
now. Right. And the people who don't like, let's say, you know, there are people out there who want
to protect themselves or whatever. And if they, I don't agree with it. Like, right. I don't think
a gun makes you safer. Right. And I know you don't think a gun makes you safer. Right. Like both of
us don't agree that a gun makes you safer. Right. But both of us are white dudes. Yeah. And so I've never felt in danger very often in my life. And I don't know what it's like to be, you know, a different gender or a different color. I don't know what that's like. So I can't speak for that experience. So I'm not going to say like a gun doesn't make someone else safer. Right. I know the gun doesn't make me safer
but if I'm somebody who thinks
a gun may make me safer
now you're making it
so this is a privileged thing
that only people who can really afford
to own a gun
and so then there's only a class of people
who can only own a gun.
Do you know what I mean?
And that's a legitimate
that is a legitimate criticism
is that this creates a
economic class distinction
between who can have a weapon
and who can't have it.
There's already one in Illinois
with concealed carry
because that was
inordinately expensive
to get our concealed carry license.
Yes, absolutely.
So you can't get
a concealed carry
in Illinois
and not expect to spend,
you know,
probably a grand or more.
You're in it for a grand.
Yeah.
The thing is though
that this Maryland law,
what I like about it is that it's only if you want to wear it and carry it.
Yeah.
It is not if you want to own it.
You want to own it.
Yeah.
So like you can have a gun in your house.
Yeah.
You can have a gun unloaded and drive it places.
Sure.
And all of that,
you don't have to have the liability insurance because there's a recognition
that like that shit is much,
much less likely to cause problems.
Right.
That's not where the danger lies.
And this is a, this bill does have problems. It creates that class and economic distinction.
And I think that's all true. And I support it with its flaws. I support it with those flaws.
You can't make it perfect, right? Yeah. I also want to address the thing you said,
because there's a story I just read maybe a month or two ago, which has taken up space in my head,
and now I get to tell it.
So it's a story about a woman, because I do also, like you, I believe the truth, which is that
statistically guns don't make us safer. They make us less safe. They make us less safe. I think so
too. They make us less safe in a variety of real and objective, measurable ways. But then I read
this story, and I thought it really says something else about who gets made safe and who gets made less safe. So there's a woman who was being harassed by a
former romantic partner. And she had done all the things you're supposed to do. She had called the
police. She had filed restraining orders. He had shown up and got arrested. He had like, but he
kept going. He kept harassing her. He kept harassing her. And the system really wasn't doing enough to keep her safe. And this person kept like,
like sending letters and like being just out of like view and just doing a lot of creepy stalker
shit. And it made this woman feel extremely, extremely unsafe. And she bought herself a gun.
And one day she was in her house
and this dude showed up
and he starts kicking the door down,
trying to get in her house.
And she called the police.
And before the police could get there,
the door busted open
because he kicked the door down
and she shot and killed him.
And he had a gun.
Wow.
And if he hadn't,
if that,
and I know that this is like,
I'm not saying like one anecdote proves or outproves the statistics, but what it says to me is that guns make us safer because we've become an unsafe culture for certain minorities of people.
a previous point. Do guns make, like, if we look at like, do guns make us safer? And we ask that question very, very broadly in this population level. I sometimes think that that maybe misses
the point. And maybe the study needs to be, do guns make women safer? And maybe there's another
question. Do guns make women of color safer? Do guns make women who have filed protection orders
safer? Do guns make trans women safer? Right. And I don't know that those, any of those answers
will come up yes.
Maybe they will all come up no.
I'm just not 100% convinced that they'll all come up no.
And like for that one person, it certainly made her safer.
Like it saved that person's life.
Sure.
And I think to myself, like, because we live in a culture awash with guns and we are not going to change that.
Yeah, yeah. a culture awash with guns and we are not going to change that. And we are going to like, we also live in a culture that doesn't seek to like protect women, you know, against violence,
specifically intimate partner violence. We're bad at that. Like, I think there are always a class
of people for whom having a gun makes them safer. Like I instinctively and intuitively believe that
I am not saying that that's objectively true, but that feels true to me. And I just like want to recognize that story. I read it and it just took up space in my head.
Sure. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm just like, yeah, like I oppose owning guns for self-defense.
And then I read that story and I'm like, I a hundred percent support her specifically
getting a gun for self-defense. It's something that I've been thinking about for, for years,
where, you know, when I, I know that I've had experiences with guns that I felt less safe.
Right.
I had a concealed carry for a little while.
I had a gun in my car for a little while.
I had an incident where someone was coming out of their car and I felt less safe with that gun in my car.
Yes.
Right.
I felt less safe because the gun was in my car at the time.
So I recognize that I wouldn't want to have a gun around me at all for any kind of
protective purposes.
But I also recognize that like,
I'm not,
I am,
I am what the world is made for.
Right.
I can,
I don't ever think about walking through a dark place.
Right.
That doesn't cross my mind when I,
if I have to go to my car and like a dark parking lot or a parking garage,
I'll just go to my car. I don't even think about it. have to go to my car in like a dark parking lot or a parking garage, I'll just go to my car.
I don't even think about it.
I just go to my car.
Right.
And so, but I don't live in a different skin.
I live in this skin.
Right.
And this skin doesn't feel danger
like other bodies may.
And so I can't, all I can do is talk for myself.
And I don't think it makes me safer,
but I also recognize like,
I don't have to be anybody else. Yeah, right. So it's, you know, it's just, that's just how it works. But yeah, this is an interesting bill. I I'm, I'm curious to see if this gets teeth somewhere else.
Right. Yeah. We've talked about insurance for this before. Yeah. I think we've, you know,
that's the thing is, you know, cars have registration. Cars have, cars come with locks. Cars come with safety
features. Cars come with, you know, you having to insure it. There's so many ways that you could
compare it to cars and just be like, if it was just as regulated as cars are, you need to have
a license to do it. You got to get, you got to go back and make sure that you take your eye test
and your tests and things like that.
If it had all those things, I would feel so much safer about guns if it had all those things.
It just doesn't have any of that.
And nobody wants any of that.
And there's so many states that you could literally just walk up and be like, I would like to conceal this gun.
Let me put it in my waistband and it is now concealed and it is fully legal.
Yeah, and there's places where you don't even have to conceal the fucking thing.
Sure.
Like there's,
it's like we live in like so many different Americas.
That's something with,
especially with respect to guns.
There are so many different Americas.
Peach.
I could eat a peach for hours.
Peach.
I could eat a peach for hours.
Peach.
I could eat a peach for hours. Peach. I could eat a peach for hours.
Perfect.
This is, this says so much.
The story's from the Hill.
In Stunner, House GOP fails bid to impeach Mayorkas.
So this is the Homeland Security Director.
Yeah.
And the GOP had promised that they were going to impeach him.
And their idea on the impeachment was that he had failed in his duty as Homeland Security Director to secure the southern border.
And so he was derelict in his duty to protect the United States. And that was the premise, the nonsensical premise, which attached no high crimes and misdemeanors whatsoever to it sure that they
were going to use yeah and like what's particularly this is this to me cecil is just another example
of the gop's abject failure to govern yeah they can't even do what they want to do yeah they can't
do what they want to do and my favorite part is that a Democrat who just got surgery came with scrubs on to vote.
He had socks and scrubs on and he came
because they specifically planned to vote
while he wasn't there
so that they could then pass this thing.
And he was like, how about no?
I'm driving and I'll figure it out and I'll make it there.
And so he did. And, and genuinely, I think, I think the problem is, is that, like you said,
there's no high crimes attached to this, that what they're trying to do is performative and
they're wasting your money. Like they're wasting my money. They're wasting everybody who's listening
money. I mean, unless you're out of the country, they're not wasting your money. They're wasting everybody who's listening's money. I mean, unless you're out of the country, then they're not wasting your money. They're wasting your time.
But they're wasting that money.
This is time that we're paying them.
You know, we pay these people on the low end $3,500 a week.
So $3,500 a week, each person gets that.
Yep.
And what are you doing?
What did you do for this hours and hours and hours of work?
Right?
We paid you $3,500
and you wasted out of like,
let's say a 40 hour week.
It's probably not.
They probably don't work
that much as much.
I think that,
I think they get paid
and then they have to work
like several hours.
Like maybe they'll pull 12s
for a couple of weeks
and then they're off for like,
these guys forever.
Don't ever pull a 12 hour day.
No, I think,
I think there are some times
they have to pull long hours.
I think there is some days they have to pull long hours. I think there is some days they have to pull long hours.
These guys are 25 hours a week tops.
I don't think they work very hard, Tom.
Like, I am a cynic on this so bad.
Like, these guys are...
I could do this job standing on my fucking...
I could do this job part-time.
I could do it.
Do it at home.
Genuinely, though, super great that this happened.
But they did a procedural move at the end where somebody flipped their vote so they could then call it again later.
So there was a procedural thing that I'm not sure exactly what it is.
I don't know how that works exactly.
But someone on the Republican Party flipped their vote so they could then call it again later on.
If they get more votes.
So they will call it again.
And I wouldn't be surprised if this
eventually works. Yeah, I wouldn't either.
There's, right now, there's
three or four,
I think it was four GOP
voted against it.
And so a couple of them said,
like one of them, who I think is
a total asshole,
but he voted against it and said, I think he's derelict in his duty, but I don't think it's an impeachable offense.
Yeah.
And then a couple other people.
But again, like.
Fine, you can believe.
Like, that's the thing is I don't believe he's derelict in his duty.
Yeah.
But like, there's no honest person with integrity.
Right.
Who thinks that this is.
This is all performative.
Right.
It's all performative.
And it's all Marjorie Taylor Greene's.
She's the one who actually was the one who sort of really pushed for this.
Well, she desperately wanted to impeach Biden, right?
She just wants to impeach someone.
She wants to flex some fucking muscle.
What is, not astonishing, but like what needs to be noted, I think,
is that the Speaker of the House has no control of the House.
That's crazy, right?
He has no control of the House.
It's crazy, right?
And like, he barely became speaker.
The house is,
I mean, how many like,
because I fucking,
what's his nuts who is speaker
for like seven minutes?
McCarthy.
McCarthy.
He took like a fucking
Baker's dozen votes plus
to get in.
Then he got fucking booted out.
Then they didn't have a speaker
for three weeks.
Yeah.
They kept trying to vote this guy
and vote that guy
and fucking vote everybody that you've ever met. They settled on to vote this guy and vote that guy and fucking vote everybody
that you've ever met.
They settled on this fucking guy.
Who even knows who he was before this?
Nobody.
Now they got this guy.
He's done purity balls before.
Yeah, right.
Yeah, he's just running
the purity ball show.
Like, that's it.
He's a fucking nobody
from nowheresville.
No one has ever heard of him.
Now he's the Speaker of the House,
but he's toothless.
Yeah.
He can't rally the fucking people.
They have no ability to govern. We just caught, we of the House, but he's toothless. He can't rally the fucking people. They have no ability
to govern.
They can't get an
immigration bill taken care of.
They have no agenda, man.
They have no agenda.
They're trying to get done. They fail.
They're the most worthless
Congress that has ever existed.
They can't do anything. And these guys,
again, they're going to stand up and say,
look at the job we just did. Please rehire me. Yeah, man. Every, it's every two years,
you have an opportunity to really shake that place up. For fuck's sake, man. Somebody's got
to do it. Their performance review should read, does not meet expectations. I wish they had to
do like, I really wish genuinely they had to do an actual performance interview with like HR
in their district. And it was
sent to all the televisions in their
district. Everybody got a chance to
see their performance review. Somebody
from HR gets to look. They get to put
their glasses on and flip through a thing and be
like, so you called a
impeachment vote
for, you know, like, and then they like
pull their glasses down
and look,
I mean,
I would fucking pay.
If that was pay-per-view,
I would pay for it.
I would pay for it.
Are you kidding me?
I'd pay more money
than a UFC fight for that.
Are you kidding me?
I would buy something
to tape it
so I could jerk off
to it later.
I know.
It's like it's on
the Spice channel.
Are you kidding me?
It would be like,
it'd be like,
go to like watch it
and be like,
it's paused four minutes in.
Be like, don't worry about where it's paused.
I'm going to watch the rest later.
I was finished, but it wasn't finished.
We just got to the good part.
For everyone who's a valedictorian, there's another hundred out there that they weigh
130 pounds and they've got calves the size of cantaloupes because they're hauling 75 pounds of marijuana across the desert.
This story also from The Hill. Democratic senators call on the DEA to de-schedule marijuana entirely.
I didn't realize until I read this there's a difference between decriminalize and de-schedule.
And so that was an interesting distinction there. Deschedule, some people
are saying that descheduling is in fact a way for more people to do better on their taxes that are
doing this, which is a really interesting argument that some people have. They say that descheduling,
because a lot of people who own these dispensaries are white, and they're saying that this is sort of a bill for rich people.
Yeah, I had thought, because the DEA is moving to change the schedule from a Schedule 1 drug, which is like the most worstest drugs, right?
Like in the DEA's opinion, to a Schedule 3 drug.
And they basically admitted like, all right, marijuana in no way meets the criteria
for a Schedule 1 drug.
It's crazy that it was.
Yeah, it never did.
It's crazy that it was.
It never did.
Like if you write down any objective things
about what should be-
It's nuts that it was.
It's nonsense, right?
So they're trying to say, okay,
we're going to move it from Schedule 1 to Schedule 3.
And the Democrats are like,
take it off the fucking schedule entirely.
Yeah.
Just fucking stop.
Like, what do we have this system where half the states you can smoke weed?
Yeah.
And half the states you go to jail maybe.
And like, if there's some kind of interstate issue, you go to federal prison for fucking weed, which makes no sense.
And nobody really wants this.
Nobody wants this.
Well, I think there are some people in the country that are staunchly against cannabis.
Sure. I think that there's clearly several states that are staunchly against cannabis.
But I hope before Biden's re-election, I hope during the summer this year, he just decriminalizes
it. Man, let's just do it. Because he did campaign on that. Yeah.
And so I'd like to see him do it
before he leaves office.
Does he have the authority
at the executive level to do that?
I think he does, actually.
I think he may.
Man, that would be fucking great.
Because it's such nonsense.
Well, now, and-
You know how happy Noah would be?
I know, right?
He could go to like,
he doesn't have to stay in like the six states,
the 12 states.
It's actually a lot more now.
It's a lot more than it's handled.
It's about half.
It's about half now.
But I, you know,
one of the things that I think
you could see then too,
if he does it,
if he does it too early,
people forget, right?
I know that there's a lot,
kind of always going to be
a flurry of political actions
before the election.
Right before the election, yeah.
Within like four or five months
of the election
because they want to show
that they did something.
Campaign on those commercials.
Yeah.
Campaign on it.
So if he does it in the summer
or at the beginning of the summer,
it also gives you an opportunity
to see during the summer session
if the people on the right
will try to pass some crazy law
or something making it illegal again.
You know what I mean?
Because there's a possibility.
Well, the states can make it illegal in their state.
Well, right.
Yeah, but Congress could also make it illegal again
on a federal level.
Oh, right.
If he-
But then Biden would probably veto it.
Well, he would veto it, but they would,
but performatively, they would make a law to say,
if you elect a guy and we flip the Senate, we will then make it illegal again.
Right. But I think that's a huge loser. Oh, it's a massive loser. It's definitely a loser amongst
Gen Z, I imagine. Oh, huge loser. Because I can't imagine that's going to win a ton of people over.
I know a lot of people aren't interested in... Dude, even my dad. My dad is like a pretty like...
interested in dude even my dad my dad is like a pretty like my dad was born in 1947 i've seen my dad have like three drinks in his life much less like pot or anything like that and even my dad
the other day was like yeah i'm kind of curious to try it maybe because it's like he's just he's
just like i says no real harm in it i just grew up thinking it was like yeah a thing but it's you
know it seems pretty clear to me that it's not really a thing. And I was like, would you actually try this? No,
I wouldn't actually do it, but I'm kind of curious. He'll never do it. Sure. Because like
he was born in 1947 and he's got all these years of like, he's got those reefer madness. It's just
locked in. It's the reefer madness. It's just locked in. Yeah. You know? Yeah. But my dad was
like that too. Yeah. He used to call it the reefers.
I'm not even kidding.
I'm not even kidding.
My dad used to call it the reefers.
You smoking the reefers, boy?
He's like, are you smoking the reefers?
You need to say,
I'm like, I don't even know
what you're talking about.
Like, what are you talking about?
I love when people put
the definite article
in front of stuff like that.
It's genuinely the best.
I love it.
I love it so much.
It's great.
I got the shit ground out of me. What about the pot? And you's great. I got the shit ground out of me.
And you're like,
I got the shit ground out of me
because I was smoking the reefers
and he caught me
when I was a young man.
I got the shit ground out of me, man.
He was super upset.
Not a happy guy.
He was super upset.
He was very,
very, very upset about it.
Dude, when I got-
My older brother ratted me out too.
He did?
Yeah, my older brother ratted me out.
Motherfucker.
Called my dad a little fucker. That did? Yeah, my older brother ratted me out. Motherfucker. Told my dad, I'm a little fucker.
That sucks.
Yeah, so I had,
as soon as he found out,
my dad was like,
you can't see these people anymore.
You can't talk to these people.
Oh no.
It was a whole thing.
He put the fucking smash down
on your life.
My dad was so mad.
He was so mad.
But my dad also hilariously
was an alcoholic.
Right, like that's worse. That's objectively worse. So my dad also hilariously was an alcoholic. Right, like that's worse.
That's objectively worse.
So my dad would be like, you know, my dad was like an alcoholic.
And then like he would drink all the time.
When he drank and got drunk, he was just the worst drunk.
But he would drink and get drunk a lot.
And so you're just like, you're doing all this to you.
Right.
You know, it's the, I learned it from watching you, dad.
I learned about the reefers
from watching my dad.
In the 90s,
like when like I came of age,
like for me,
I was like a dare kid.
Like I was,
and I was like pretty,
I was a pretty straight shooter as a kid.
Yeah, yeah.
And like,
that was drugs, man.
Yeah.
Like in my brain,
like that was like drugs,
like actual,
in my brain now, it's sort of like, it's drugs. Yeah. You know, like that was like drugs, like actual, in my brain now it's sort of like,
it's drugs, you know, like it's like, it's, it's drugs. It's not like drugs, you know? But like
when I was a kid, I might, and like, I was such like kind of a straight laced kid that like my
buddy Rick and his girlfriend, like, and we hung out all the time, like for a few years, like every,
like every day, like the three of us were inseparable.
And like one day, like I caught him, like caught him, but I saw him smoking weed and
I was blown away.
And he's like, dude, we smoke weed all the time.
And we just never told you.
And he just didn't tell me because he thought I would be like, weird about it.
He's like, I just didn't think you would approve is what he said.
And I'm like, I'm the same age.
Like I don't approve or disapprove.
I'm also a fucking teenager.
I don't, like, what?
That's amazing.
But he just felt like
a little weird about it.
So they would, like, sneak off
away from their best friend
and go smoke weed.
And they're like,
and I never caught on.
I was a fucking idiot.
Oh, man.
So.
Once we cross that border,
we're on our own.
See, so from the Huffington Post,
in a huge reversal,
GOP poised to kill the border Ukraine package
that it demanded.
They can't find their ass at two events, dude.
Genuinely.
They can't.
Incompetent.
They can't.
Incompetent.
They can't.
And this is the thing,
I don't agree with a lot of the things
that they're trying to do with the border.
Absolutely.
But I think there has been enough talk about this in the media
to make it so everybody is convinced now that there's this crazy border crisis and it's the
worst. They're coming for you. They're pouring, you know, a million people a day are pouring over
this tiny little patch of ground in Eagle Ridge or whatever.
And so people are convinced of it.
And so this plays well with both constituencies right now.
So not only does it play well with a lot of Democrats, it plays well with almost all the Republicans.
But we're at a place where we won't do something if it helps the other side. We just
won't do it. Well, and I think from what I've read and what I believe, you know, Trump has been a
large influence on the killing of this border. That's very true, yeah. And there's really two
good reasons why. If Trump can destroy this bill and hold off on allowing Ukraine to be funded,
bill and hold off on allowing Ukraine to be funded. If Trump gets to campaign on, I would have controlled Putin. And under Biden's administration, Ukraine was lost to Putin,
or the war was lost to Russia. Under a stronger president, under a more powerful me,
this never would have happened in the first place. And he spent billions of your dollars
and lost anyway. It's a great message to campaign on. It's a message written in fucking blood,
absolutely written in blood and atrocity. And it's lies, but it's a message he wants.
So it's in Trump's best interests right now to let Ukraine fall to the Russians.
One, because he's, I think, definitely in bed with the goddamn Russians, right? But two,
it just plays to his message, which counterintuitively is, I'm the only guy who
can control Russia, even as I give them everything they want.
Right, right.
And at the same time, Trump doesn't want Biden to secure the border.
If Biden secures the border, that works against Trump.
He can't campaign on the Democrats' open border policy.
So there's no way Trump can let this happen.
He cannot let this bill go through.
It would hurt his political chances. So Trump's come in and basically told all of his fucking
lapdogs in the house, of which there are many, to scuttle this bill. And even though this was a GOP
led bill, they scuttled their own bill so they could get their fucking monkey in charge.
Yeah. And they asked
Mike Johnson about it. And Mike Johnson said, no, no, no. And then we talked about it, I think,
last week on the show where they said, no, no, it's not Trump. But I did talk to him extensively
about it. Right. Yeah. It wasn't Trump, but he definitely told me what to do. So there is an
element of that. But there's also just this what comes out more is the indecision of the GOP.
Yeah, man.
Right? Where, just tell me where you want to eat, right?
Yeah, right.
Like, you're the one who gets sick. You're driving, right? You're driving. So, just,
if you want to pull over anywhere, I'm good anywhere. Just do it. And they don't do anything.
Yeah.
They're just, they're so panicked with any
kind of power. They're so bad at being in charge because for them, the most important thing is to
stall everything. Yeah. To say no. To say no. Yeah. So it's like, what are you guys about? Well,
we're not about anything. Yeah. All we do is say no. We say no so much. We said no to ourselves.
Yeah. Like, are you kidding kidding me? I turned myself down.
I didn't even jerk off. I spit in my own
mouth.
But it also speaks to,
we talked about this before, there's two
GOPs. And the
party is splitting. This schism
is actually happening. You've got the
MAGA right, and then you've got
the sort of like more
traditional right. I don't know what else
you would call it. Yeah, there definitely is a more traditional. And there are traditionalists
who are joining in and saying, what the fuck? We should do this. What is happening? This is the
time to do it. They're calling out the incompetency of this leadership, but they're not getting,
they can't get through it. What I don't understand is they're the ones who made this bill.
So if they made this bill,
maybe Biden gets to talk about
how great he is on the border or whatever.
I mean, to me, that's actually a negative.
Right.
But for some people, it's a positive.
But can't you go back to your people?
Because they do it when they get voted down
for the stimulus packages,
and they vote down the stimulus packages.
They still go back to their constituents
and talk about how great they are.
And then somebody will call them out and say,
well, you didn't vote for it.
But yeah, but you got it.
So in this sense, part of me wonders,
why don't you just go for it?
Because you're going to either lie about it
or whatever anyway afterwards,
and it's getting you the thing you want.
Like, maybe you don't even want it.
I think maybe you're the key here is they don't even want it.
They don't even want that to happen.
Because if they do, it's the same thing.
They caught the car.
They finally caught the car with their mouth and they're like, well, it's fixed.
Well, I don't have anything else to campaign on it.
Yeah, I think that that's very much true.
And I really do think that Trump has applied a lot of pressure.
And what happens when you vote against what Trump wants
is if when he's in power and control, he ruins your career.
The only people who ever speak out about him
are people who are retiring.
Those are the only people, the people who are stepping down.
Yeah, Mitt Romney was able to speak,
and McCain was able to speak, and Ch Romney was able to speak, you know, and like McCain was able to speak.
And then Cheney was able to speak. One of these guys who just voted against the impeachment of
Mayorkas. Yeah. He just spoke out too against Trump, but there was the only people, and Kevin
McCarthy also spoke out on him after he told him. Yeah, because he's already ruined. Because he's
quitting. Yeah. He's like, fuck you, I'm quitting.
By the way, while I'm quitting,
fuck you, everybody.
All of a sudden, I got integrity.
Fuck you, everybody.
And really, genuinely,
that's the worst time to speak out about him.
Because you're powerless now.
You're lame duck.
Now you're powerless.
Yeah.
Republicans find their integrity all of a sudden
when they're walking out the door.
Yep.
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This story is from The Independent. Marjorie Taylor
Green mocked for struggling to pronounce
indictable or to read a long number.
Cecil, there's audio. Do you want to play the audio?
Yeah, I might as well. So people can hear it.
Let's play it so it can be fair to the story.
As fair to the story as we want to be here.
So let me pause it. A story is in quotes.
A story is not really a story.
We're going to play it though.
Because I listened to this.
I must have missed it.
She does say indictable.
I didn't hear the number.
I didn't hear the number.
This historical evidence is overwhelming
that the founding fathers intended impeachment
to be used to deal with the commission
of indictable crimes and the abuse of power,
corruption and injury to the nation
caused by public officials among others.
Okay, so she only says the one thing there.
Yeah.
It's indictable instead of indictable.
You know, we know she's not super bright.
Like, you know that, everybody knows that.
But this story is such a non-story.
It's her mispronouncing something,
which maybe she doesn't even know
what that word means.
There's a good possibility.
That she's reading someone else.
I'm not saying that she knows
what that word means.
Right.
I'm not saying that.
But I am saying, like,
why put this in the Independent
and then link to a bunch of Twitter quotes
from people who were
making fun of her blunder?
Like, what is that?
What, what's the purpose of that?
Yeah, this, and you know, here's the other thing about this, that when you watch the
video just leaps out to me is that, and this is really mean, this is really fucking mean
and unnecessary.
And I, I despise Marjorie Taylor Greene, but she is not a strong reader and it's evident
because as she's reading, she's moving her finger along the page.
I do that when I read too.
And so like she probably is doing that
to keep her place and to keep herself on track.
And like, she probably knows the word indictable
and indict, but she probably is just not a strong reader.
And that's not got anything to do with her intelligence.
Yeah.
That's just a skill and a neurological set
that some people just, for whatever reason, struggle with.
Sure.
And I think it's really fucking ableist and mean.
Yeah.
To see somebody very evidently who is not a strong reader
and then mocking them for mispronouncing something.
I've fucking mispronounced shit before.
I am.
Every person has mispronounced shit before.
But to mock somebody who is
reading and is very evidently
struggling with that task is a dick move.
Yeah. I said
it many times on this show that I
have to read my Citation Needed essays
multiple times before I read them aloud.
Because if I don't, I
will often mess
up. I'll read
and I'll put words that don't belong in there. And I'm
bad at it. If I can understand the story well enough in my head, sometimes I can even just
riff off what's on the page. Sure. I sometimes do that where I lose my place and I'm not going
to try to follow the sentence structure. I'm just going to sort of remember this part of the story.
Right. And so that happens to me
because I'm a poor reader.
I'm not good at it.
And I would be nervous up there
and doing the same thing she's doing too.
I totally agree.
I think it's a dick move.
But then to stoop one level lower than journalism
to say, not only are we going to make fun of her,
we're going to find people on Twitter
who made fun of her
so we can report their tweets to you.
Yeah, so we can have a word count.
I don't understand.
Like, it's not interesting.
She didn't say anything that was,
I mean, she's a bad person.
Yes.
She does bad things.
Yeah.
There's plenty of things to write
about Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Let that be its own indictment.
I know.
things. There's plenty of things to write about Marjorie Taylor Greene. Let that be
its own indictment.
I don't know. I feel bad about laughing
at it now, Tom. I feel
bad now. He can't
keep getting away with it.
He can't keep getting away with it. He't i just put this in so he could be depressed
i'm fucking hell man uh story comes in the ap controversial podcast host joe rogan signs a new
deal with spotify for up to a reported 250 million dollars what i think is also important in this
article is they talk to jo, there's a quote here,
and it says, there's no script
on what we're going to talk about.
And it just sort of happens in real time.
It's just the actual organic conversation
with people enjoying themselves,
which is something we can all relate to
and something we all love to do.
And so what I hate about that
is that the things that you're talking about, they demand research, right?
They demand you to come armed with sources.
You're battling these quote unquote woke ideas all the time.
Come with some sources.
Yeah.
Come with sources and not be so easily duped
in the middle of your own show, right?
You'll make more money than most people
who are held far more accountable, right?
Those people who make less money than you
are held far more accountable than you are
and have far less reach than you do.
And somehow you got renewed for this massive contract.
The thing that Joe always shirks
is the responsibility that is concomitant with audience.
He has an enormous audience.
He has something like 100 million listeners.
Some crazy shit.
I don't care if you ever wanted that or not.
If you continue to reach into an audience of that size,
you have a responsibility to that audience.
And he does absolutely nothing to earn that responsibility
and to meet that responsibility.
In fact, he does the opposite.
He shirks that responsibility,
pretends it doesn't exist,
becomes a just-asking-questions guy,
and he gives the same gravitas
to listening to some UFC fighter
as he does to a fucking flat earther
as he does to Neil deGrasse Tyson.
And that's wrong.
That's mistaken.
That's not like he might just,
oh, I'm just a just asking questions guy.
But it's like, yeah,
but who are you asking those questions to?
Are you qualified to ask good questions?
You're not.
And you're not respecting
the responsibility that comes with audience. And it makes me crazy because he's spreading this.
He's allowing the spread of really poisonous, toxic, bad misinformation. He had those America's
frontline doctors, anti-vax nuts on his show a number of times. For like three and a half hours
to spew their bullshit and their
misinformation and their
self-aggrandizement and personal
profit. He doesn't know how to call them on it.
He doesn't even know that he's
supposed to. He's unqualified
for this work.
It's 100 million,
200 million years
that are getting this message.
And you need to, in some ways,
make sure that the things you're saying are true.
Yeah.
You can't, and if somebody says something untrue,
it's on you to try to push back a little.
Yeah.
To try to be like, hey, that was the,
I'm a perfect example with us.
We had Eli Bosnick on years ago.
Years and years ago.
And he came on and said things that he found in a source that was not so good.
Yeah.
And then we had to come out in the next week and eat shit.
Yep.
And we did.
Yep.
Because that's what you do.
Yep.
Yeah, you say, I'm sorry.
You say, I'm sorry.
We let somebody on the show who didn't know what he was talking about.
And then Eli went out and said, I made a mistake.
Right.
Everybody owned it.
Yeah.
Because that's what integrity is,
right?
Integrity is being like,
hey, I made a mistake.
And the second part of integrity
is not making the same mistake twice.
Yeah.
Right?
It would be,
if we had done that
and then immediately afterwards
had somebody on
who showed up
and we had done
no research ahead of time
and they showed up
with bullshit sources and we were like, well ahead of time and they showed up with bullshit sources
and we were like, well, we just let that back
on the air, then fucking shame on
us. And that's the problem with Joe.
It's not like this has only happened once or twice.
He's been caught out a number
of times and he doesn't give a shit.
He does not give a shit. And the show that he
does requires you to
be someone who's engaged
in the conversation and is the check valve for the
audience because you're letting people come on and talk about their ideas. That's what your show is.
Your show isn't just, here's my thoughts on this. It might be sometimes, but there's way more often
it's, I'm going to talk to some dude for three hours, or I'm going to talk to some lady for
three hours. I'm going to talk to this group of people for three hours. So he's having these long conversations with people and those conversations,
he's got to be the mediator. He's got to be the one that is, is the one that's, that's stopping
these. He's the goalie, right? He's got to stop some of these bad ideas from hitting the audience
and he doesn't care. He's standing next to the goal.
Smoking a blunt.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
There's a great clip
of Joe Rogan
and Bill Burr,
the comedian.
And like,
I know Bill Burr is problematic.
I don't care for this.
For this example,
set that aside.
That doesn't matter.
Because like,
Bill Burr is like,
at one point,
Joe is like,
tries to like goad him
into talking about like,
COVID shit, like vaccine shit. And Bill Burr is like, man, point, Joe is like, tries to like goad him into talking about like COVID shit, like
vaccine shit. And Bill Burr is like,
man, what are you talking about? We don't know what
the fuck we're talking about. We aren't qualified.
He like rails him. He's like,
get out of here. We're a couple
of knuckleheads. This isn't for us.
What do you know about anything?
And he just like shuts it down. And Joe just
starts laughing. He's like, nah, you're right.
Because he knows. Because he knows. That's the thing. He Joe just starts laughing. He's like, nah, you're right. Because he knows.
Because he knows.
That's the thing.
Because he knows.
He fucking knows.
Yeah.
Where's our $250 million deal though?
Jesus.
Dude, I would sell out so hard for less than that.
I just want anyone in the audience to know.
Guys, if you think what would it take to buy Tom's soul,
it's not $250 million.
If you think I'm not sure I have the money,
try me. Maybe. Try me. And hey, you think, I'm not sure I have the money, try me.
Maybe.
Try me.
And hey,
you know what?
Start a GoFundMe.
Yeah.
You'd be surprised
how cheap my integrity is.
That's terrible.
It's not that cheap.
It is, though.
Not that cheap.
Well,
that is a very impressive watch.
Is that a Rolex?
Mine's a Casio.
All right, this story is from Media Matters.
Fox News' Jesse Waters cites debunked claims
to argue that climate scientists
fabricated U.S. temperature data.
You know, the temperature data that this,
there's a tweet in here,
and the tweet is, it says,
documents, this is a debunked garbage thing. So if this
somehow winds up on YouTube, YouTube, I want to make sure we mention we think climate change is
real. Climate change is real. It's manmade and it's dangerous. And I'm going to quote somebody
now that I think is wholly wrong about what they're talking about. Okay. So quote from climate craze at climate craze on
Twitter documents clearly show that 96% of the United States temperature reporting stations are
improperly located where many produce unrealistic warming through the urban heat Island effect.
The solution is simple, either move the cities or move the thermometers. So they're basically saying that you're putting, that's an end quote now.
Their argument is that they're improperly putting thermometers out and we're getting high, high readings from places with lots of asphalt that have these high readings.
And what this doesn't understand is a couple of things. One, it doesn't understand that there is,
that when you're looking at climate data,
you take that thermometer
and then you take that thermometer
for years and years and years and years.
So it's not that you're just looking at something
and saying, wow, it's really hot today.
You're looking at it for years and years
and they're not saying it's really hot
in the middle of the city. No. They're saying, it for years and years, and they're not saying it's really hot in the
middle of the city. No. They're saying, look at how much the temperature has climbed over the years.
Right. That's what they're saying. And they also, somebody tried to make a paper about this,
and it's never been peer reviewed because everyone thinks it's garbage.
Some guy who calls himself at climate craze on Twitter is not a reputable
resource, right? So you take what he said and you put it in a bucket called, I shouldn't even read
this. Yeah. Right. You know, you're right. Shame on you for reading that because that's not where
you go to get information. So you put that in a bucket called, I have to ignore that. Yeah. That's
garbage. My eyes did the wrong thing when they saw that. And you slap
yourself in the eye. Made a huge mistake. Yeah. They offended you. So maybe you pull them out.
So there you go. First of all, it's nonsense from an idiot on Twitter. You shouldn't have
even seen it. Shame on you. Then you go to this paper that's being referenced. Well,
the paper was never peer reviewed. It failed the peer review process. It was never published.
It's a repudiated garbage paper.
So, okay,
so now there's no evidence of that.
And then you use your brain
for 10 seconds
and you think,
yeah, but when they talk
about climate change,
they're talking about
global climate change.
And they're talking about
taking readings
all over the actual world.
The world.
When they talk about climate change,
they're talking about measuring
the ocean temperatures.
They're talking about measuring, they're not just
looking at a thermometer on the side of the fucking Hancock
building. They're like, they look at
one thermometer and then they made all these.
It's not like some scientist drives past the bank
and the bank shows you the time and the
temperature and they're like, hey, it's a
little hotter out according to Heartland
AUSA Business and
Loan. I'm going to type that into my calculator watch.
Yeah, I got a Casio
calculator watch that says it's
toasty out. It's real hot out today.
You know, I asked Alexa, actually,
and that bitch said it was hot out.
That's not how
any of this is done. Well, and even, and here's
the thing, even if it was,
they already said that they'd
check it over time. Right.
Saying that it's in relation to itself is the number.
It's in relation to the same space.
It's in relation to the same.
So same time of year, same space, it's getting hotter every year.
Right.
So that proves something.
Whether or not you think that proves global climate change,
we can argue about that based on, like you said,
all the other fucking data we have, right?
But if we're just talking about this one thing,
you've got to say it got warmer.
It did.
You know, it got warmer.
So it's just a bad faith argument.
But what's, it's insane.
It gets shown on Fox.
And then they, again, we're talking about earlier,
you know, they're making fun of Marjorie Taylor Greene
and they're listing a bunch of,
what is it?
What kind of journalism?
I'm going to put this on the screen
so you could see this image.
What kind of journalism is Jesse Watt?
Is that the guy who's the prime time?
Jesse Watt?
Jesse Watt is just quoting some dude.
He's got a-
Just random guy from Twitter.
He's got a thing on the screen that says,
fucking there's a tweet, by the way,
from someone who we don't even know who it is.
Yep.
Wow.
Oh, my God.
Some guy whose handle is at climate craze.
I'm fucking done.
I feel like if there was campus craziness.
Right.
You know, where you're just like,
okay, we know what you're going to tweet.
We know.
I don't even have to look at your Twitter feed
to know what you're going to tweet. This is like you don't, I don't even have to look at your Twitter feed to know what you're going to tweet.
This is like, we can't use as evidence.
Some guy said once.
That's what this is.
Some guy said once.
Some guy, I know a guy once
who said that climate change isn't real.
Oh, fuck.
Did anyone hear this guy's evidence?
He also peed a little.
He's got a girlfriend in Niagara Falls.
This guy that I know.
Get the fuck out of here.
Things have gotten just impossibly bad.
It's insane how easy it is to get.
I feel like I almost feel like we need to just start a massive Twitter farm of just a bunch of rand... And we
could get on the news, no problem. No problem.
I guarantee it. Yeah.
Alright, that's going to wrap it up for this
week's episode.
Over the weekend, on Friday,
you heard an episode of
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So if you missed it,
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You can listen to it right now.
All right, that's going to wrap it up for this week.
We're going to catch you next time.
Until then, we're going to leave you like we always do
with the thing that got us banned from YouTube,
Skeptic's Creed.
After 800 episodes.
Credulity is not a virtue.
It's fortune cookie cutter, mommy issue,
hypno-Babylon bullshit.
Couched in scientician, double bubble, toil and trouble, pseudo-quasi-alternative, acupunctuating,
pressurized, stereogram, pyramidal, free energy, healing, water, downward spiral, brain dead,
pan, sales pitch, late night info-docutainment.
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Bigfoot, Yeti, aliens, churches, mosques and synagogues,
temples, dragons, giant worms, Atlantis, dolphins,
truthers, birthers, witches, wizards, vaccine nuts,
shaman healers, evangelists, conspiracypiracy. Double speak stigmata.
Nonsense.
Expose your sides.
Thrust your hands.
Bloody.
Evidential.
Conclusive.
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