Cognitive Dissonance - Episode 761: Aaron Rodgers vs Anthony Fauci, Trump vs Gettysburg

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

           

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Today is Thursday, April the 18th. I had to double check the month, Cecil. That's right. It's political and there is no welcome at today is Thursday April the 18th. I had to double check the month see so that's how that's how out of it I am right now April the 8th. I was like, is it no, it might be no, it's not no, it's April It is actually three days past Tax time. Yeah, and three days past the beginning of the historic trial of Donald J. Trump. Yeah. Yes. Did you see that?

They had to let a juror go that they the juror requested to be let go didn't have two of them Yeah well one of them very specifically wanted to be let go because On the news they started releasing all of these details about these people's lives, right? So they started saying, you know, all like, because they kept their names hidden, but there was journalists in the audience. And so they were able to write down all the little,

like little details about their life, you know, their job, where they went to school. Oh, enough to dock some. Well, and one of the things that happened was, is one of the guys on Fox News says, well, I don't know about this juror. She's from new upper, upper Midwest side or whatever the fuck in New York. I don't know. One of those upper West side.

I don't know what as whatever, whatever those New Yorkers say, you know, like upper garbage pile. I don't know. Yeah, right. Whatever it was, but in any case, yeah, exactly. Yeah. On the other side of the rat king, there's, she was a nurse and she had a master's degree. Like, I don't know if I like her very much.

She said she didn't have any strong feelings about Trump. And then she also said, no one's above the law. So I don't know about that. And I'm thinking, what's wrong with that? What's wrong with no one's above the law, man. Man, how fucking crazy tenuous is your grasp on reality and how incredibly like into the cult of personality have you become when crazy shit like Taylor Swift saying, everybody should vote is being seen as like,

whoa, whoa, anti-Republican pro-democratic message. Everyone should vote. Nobody's above the law. Settle down there lefty. Where are we? Yeah. See, so where the fuck actually are we? These are the most tepid messages in like American political history.

You should vote. No one's above the law. And the right is like, stop your frothy, you liberal nut jobs. What the fuck? Get back over the fucking back over the iron curtain, you tanky, you know? Yeah, I mean, seriously, like they're they're freaking out about it. And it's crazy. And it's just so it's just so telling when somebody says something like that out loud,

they say something like that, and then you can see exactly what they think. And what they think is the exact opposite of that. They don't think that Trump should be accused of any crimes. They don't think that Trump should be having to deal with any of this stuff. And so in their opinion, they think that he is above the law. And then the idea is that people saw this broadcast, and this guy, this Tapper, I think his name is Tapper, I don't know. Jake Tapper. Could be. I I think his name's Tapper. I don't know. I don't remember. Jake Tapper.

Could be. I think if you say, I know there's a Jake Tapper. I thought that's a CNN guy. I don't know. Anyway. I don't know. Regardless, he's a Fox guy. And so the Fox guy says some shit. What does the Fox say? And when he says it immediately it becomes like a fucking meme. And then she starts to feel pressure from her family and other people because they know

who she is. They're asking her, are you on this jury? Are you on this jury? Because now you've broadcast it. And this is, this is definitely something that could chill a jury that can cause people to make decisions. If they see that that's how Fox is acting before anything's decided,

how are they gonna act if they decide to prosecute him? I think it's legit to be, I'm surprised that this isn't a sequestered jury. Me too, yeah. I'm really shocked that this is not a sequestered jury. I think it is a legitimate position to be like, I am afraid for my life and my family's life to serve on this jury because the fucking right wing

nut jobs will dox you. They will find out who you are and they very likely will come after you. I think they really, the only responsible thing for them to do would be to sequester and like, I don't know, hide the identity. And I know they can do this for like mob trials and shit. Hide the identity of the jurors,

put them behind a fucking screen, all that stuff. It's that big a deal. The no one's above the law thing. It just occurred to me that like, we are living in a time where literally the Supreme Court heard arguments about this just the other day. That's what the presidential immunity argument is. Is I'm above the, he basically went into the Supreme Court

who is yet to decide. That's on the 25th, they haven't heard it yet. Yeah, oh they haven't heard the arguments. I thought they heard the arguments. No, it's on the 25th. That's when they hear the arguments. They might've submitted things. I thought, what was the argument?

The January 6th. Whether or not you should be able to prosecute people for January 6th, that's what they heard. Because in that argument too, he basically said the same thing though, because I remember that the Supreme Court pushback was like, so if you're the president, everything you do is immune from prosecution. You could order a hit. You could use the CIA to order a hit.

That was in a federal court. Jesus, I can't keep track. That was in a lower court where they said that. That was in a lower court. I thought for some reason. No, that was a couple of weeks, maybe a month ago in a lower court where they said that. That was in a lower court. I thought for some reason. No, that was a couple of weeks, maybe a month ago in a lower court. A federal judge had asked him that,

but that was a federal appeals court. That was a federal appeals court. The Supreme Court hasn't heard that yet. They're going to hear it. They're going to hear it. So the thrust of that conversation though really is, hey, I'm above the law. And the Supreme Court will really hear out the argument

that let's see if you actually want. We're going to find out. My thought on this is that the Supreme Court will really hear out the argument that let's see if you actually We're going to find out. My thought on this is that the Supreme Court decided to do a unanimous decision against taking Trump off the ballot. And I think there was probably some horse trading that happened that they're going to do a unanimous decision that says you can't. You're not. No presidential immunity attached. No presidential immunity, that's stupid. It seems insane that presidential immunity would attach. I didn't even know why they would hear it. I would imagine they would look at it and be like,

nope, that looks fine. Yeah, I think part of it is political, right? They have to show that they've heard it so that they're not, so they don't look partisan to the left, which my God, if you believe that they're partisan to the left, what the fuck is wrong with you? But again, we live in a world where, hey, get out and vote is now seen as a partisan left leaning partisan statement. I'm not a doctor, but I have doubled in pharmaceuticals.

This is a video of Aaron Rodgers, which you showed me right before we recorded. And I asked you, is he a baseball player? He's not a baseball player. He's a football player. He used to play for the Packers as their quarterback and he was their quarterback for his entire career until last, it was last year he got traded to the Jets. And when he got traded to the Jets, his very first play on their turf, he blew his ACL. Well you know that makes sense because once you're a jet you're a jet It's a jet forever now Yeah from his first cigarette his first sign name his first cigarette to his tattooed arm. Here we go

So let me put this on the big real quick Can I ask you a quick question? Is there a famous baseball player that I should that I'm thinking of with the last name Rogers or crazy, so You're probably thinking of Hank Aaron. Am I? I don't know. Maybe Aaron Rogers, Hank Aaron. Okay, maybe. Maybe that's what I was thinking. I'm sure there's a... I feel like there's a baseball guy.

I'm sure there is a baseball guy. I don't know a lot about baseball. I don't either. So I just was like, when you said it was air, I was like, oh, I know this one. That's baseball. You're like, no. He's 100%. But he does throw a ball.

Okay. I crushed it. It's very close. I nailed it. So I want to play this. Now this is him talking on another show and they don't really, I think it's, I don't know if it's called Look Into It or Not,

but he's on a show and he's going to talk about Anthony Fauci here. So we're going to listen to him talk about Anthony Fauci. And we can do this because we're not on YouTube and they will somehow don't, they think that this is us saying this or whatever. So here's a crazy person talking about Anthony Fauci. The blueprint, the game plan was made in the 80s,

create a pandemic, you know, with a virus that's going wild. Right. Only he was given, Fauci was given like over $350 million to research this to come up with drugs new or repurposed to handle the AIDS pandemic. And all they came up with AZ was AZT. Okay, got to pause. I want to say though, though too, like Anthony Fauci had the most bitchin' Bugatti when he got that $350 million to research AIDS. He had like these fucking big ass flavor, flavor, solid gold flavor, flavor cock, a whole fucking like line of rings on his hands. Oh yeah.

He was in it, Tom. Where do you think he got that diamond grill he's flashing? He'd walk into every research lab and just make it rain. He was like, what's up bitches? Where's my AIDS bitches at? And then he'd just like fucking fling money everywhere. Yeah, that's Anthony Fauci. I mean, when you got $350 million for your own personal use, to do literally whatever you want with it.

That is exactly how, I'm glad Aaron Rodgers said it, because people need to know that that's actually how research funding works is that what happens is Somebody they don't charge George Soros. Thank you. I was a stupid Probably yeah, it's it's it's a lizard headed George Soros monoatomic gold alien. They give one person gold alien. They give one person hundreds of millions of dollars and they say, I don't know man, go find a cure for AIDS. And that guy's like, cool, cool, cool. And then it's his personal only individual actual job to go around. He's got beakers and he's pouring shit into beakers. That's how science is done. I mean, coins, gold coins. It's just fucking strippers like with pipettes.

It's got one of those guns that shoots singles everywhere. It's like a Nerf gun, but it shoots single dollar bills out. It's got a huge fucking vault full of singles he just goes to the strip club with. Jesus Christ. He's like fucking Scrooge McDucking in a giant like fucking vault of coins swimming around. The famed high living of Anthony Fauci, right? Like a guy who's like by all like fairly modest means kind of guy. The funny thing is, is like he's a high paid guy when it comes to the government, but genuinely

he could be making so much more money as like a head, like lead researcher at a biotech company or, or at a hospital as one of the chiefs at the hospital. That guy could write a ticket and quadruple his income tomorrow. So much money. And this guy's like, oh, he gave him $350 million to do what? And he gave him that money to do that? No, and that's not how that works.

And then, and now I don't know the history and I don't want to pretend that I do. So I'm actually going to go with just what Aaron Rodgers says, right? So I'm going to grant, let me grant that like, maybe somebody gave Anthony Fauci personally $350 million, I'm going to assume it's gold doubloons. Sure, yeah. Or Bitcoin, I don't know. And then he used it and then all he came up with was AZT.

That saved a lot of lives. It really did, it reallyT. That saved a lot of lives. It really did. It really did. That saved a lot of lives. Not a bad thing. But then he's like, and then like, it goes on and a minute will play, but it goes on and be like, well, and then they pretty much didn't do anything else. And it's like, that's so untrue.

Like AIDS in the eighties was essentially a fucking horrible death sentence. You got HIV, you got AIDS, you died. It was terrible. Now we have antiretroviral drugs that mean that you can knock the viral load of HIV back to undetectable levels and live a perfectly normal life with a perfectly normal lifespan. And he's just like, yeah, all they did was essentially make it

so you don't die of it ever if you get the right drugs. I can't even believe that that's something- What a waste of money. Stupid idiot. You're dumb. You should have juiced. Could solve this with kale. And if you do any even a smidge of research and I know I'm not a you know epidemiologist. I'm not a doctor. I'm not an immunologist. Whatever the fuck. I can read though. Can you? And I can learn and look things up just like any normal person. I can do my own research, which was so vilified, even question authority, but that was the game.

Okay, so I wanna just say like, no, you can't. No, you can't because here's the thing. You're gonna stumble over every five syllable fucking word that's in there and not know what it is and not know what it does. I don't consider myself somebody who can read a scientific paper and understand it. I have to rely on journalists to look at that paper

and then read what their analysis is. I have a master's degree in new media. I have an undergraduate degree in philosophy. I was a very good student, but none of those things matter, right? I can read well, I can comprehend things that I read, but that doesn't mean I have any of the tools to understand and dissect a scientific paper.

The thing that people that spout off like this fail to realize is first, they have no personal intellectual humility at all. Literally no personal intellectual humility. How fucking arrogant is that, right? These documents are written literally in a language they don't speak. There is an entire vocabulary.

In fact, like if you go to like take med classes, you take entire classes on the vocabulary of medicine and medical terminology. Medical terminology is an entire class. It's a study that you have to undergo. There are also a lot of overlapping terms that are used in medicine that mean different things to us in the lay world, right?

So there are a lot of like colloquial terms and like one of the most commonly misunderstood in science is the colloquial use of the word theory and the scientific use of the word theory. This is just one that many people are gonna be familiar with. Science and medicine have dozens and dozens of these words. You know, where we talk about like accuracy and precision.

These are scientific words that means something different colloquial than they mean scientifically. We are unequipped. It's like reading a paper in French if you don't speak French. I might be able to glean some words here and there because they share a common Latin root, but I am not equipped to do that work. And also I just have enough intellectual humility to know I got a degree in English literature. Reading stuff, very good at it. Reading the language I don't read, no. I know enough to know I don't know how to fucking do that. Then they attach it to the virtue of questioning authority. And I fucking hate when they do that because

we all sort of tacitly understand that it is generally a virtue to question authority rather than to simply accept authority. In fact, it's a logical fallacy to just take an argument on its face because it's from authority. But this is not about questioning authority. There's not an authority here that's being questioned. The point is he's unequipped to do the work. He doesn't actually know how to ask the questions. He doesn't understand what the answers are when he's given them. He can't do this, man.

It just makes me crazy. Yeah, I think you really hit on something when it comes to humility, though, and I think that's a real important point. So many of these people are just so embarrassingly openly stupid, right? You are just like, the problem I think genuinely is that the internet is a fire hose, right? Yeah. And it's a fire hose that also has a feed line, a couple of feed lines in it that happen to be

horseshit, right? So you can fucking open the fire hose into your face and catch a whole bunch of type of stuff, right? Yeah. But what you really need to do is you need to pour that water that comes out of there through a filtration system. Yeah. It needs to get filtered down to you so you can understand it. Because if not, you're going to catch a whole fucking bunch of information that you don't

understand that you can't get. And then you also catch a bunch of information that's just blatantly false because I guarantee you're looking up ways in which to debunk this stuff. The search terms you're using are turning up Mercola. The search terms you're using are turning up clips from the Joe Rogan show or Jordan Peterson or Brett Weinstein or whatever you're getting these things from a source that's already Polluted and that's the real issue. That's the problem you think you can read all I can read Yeah, but you're reading sources that have already decided that they're gonna trick you Yeah, and the thing is like based on the questions you ask you will get answers that address that question

So if he's Googling the wrong question, he's going to find only the wrong answers and Google will curate that result for him. The wrong answer. Over and over and over again. These are guys that aren't even using the academic and scholarly version of Google. They're using just literally Google.com and the algorithmically personally curated version that they have, and they're thinking like, well, I'm getting all this information. They're not even formulating the question properly. They also typically, these guys do not understand

how to identify the difference between a preliminary study, a clinical trial, a peer-reviewed, I shouldn't say final, but peer-reviewed studies. They don't know how to like look at something and say, okay, was this study done well? Okay. What are they, were there the right number of participants? Were the participants controlled for meaningfully?

They have no idea how to like do that work. And I want to raise my hand. I don't either. I don't know. What I know is that it's complicated. It's really hard to look at a study and to say like, okay, that is the right number of participants for this kind of study. These participants were pre-screened in a way that makes sense. This is double-blinded in a way that is appropriate to the result that we're

trying to measure. The measurement tools were accurate. There's so much that goes into evaluating whether you're even reading the right study. They don't know how to do it. What the fuck is Aaron Rodgers goddamn degree in man? He might not even graduated college. Catchy throwsies. But he might not even graduated college. Like here's the thing, maybe you can read a playbook. Right. But that doesn't mean you can read anything else. Now I want to know. I wonder what that motherfucker's goddamn degree is.

Animal husbandry. Yeah, who the fuck, was it like, There was some motherfucker who's like who was the fucking and it was going to be the energy secretary. He wore the glasses to look smart. Rick Perry. He went to fucking animal Texas Longhorn University or whatever for animal fucking husbandry. Look up look up Aaron Rodgers.

Aaron goddamn Rodgers. Polysci. He's got a fuck. Oh, it's got science there. It's got science in it. Admittedly he's got a more of a science degree than I do. It's political science. Jesus Christ.

A plan back then create an environment where only one thing works. Back then AZT now remdesivir remdesivir until we get a vaccine, which by the way, Anthony Fauci had staked in the Moderna vaccine. And we know Pfizer is one of the most criminally corrupt organizations ever. The fine they paid was the biggest in the history of the DOJ in 2009. Like, what are we talking about?

We're gonna put our full trust in science that can't be questioned. They keep saying, he keeps saying over and over, get a vaccine as if there's just one vaccine to COVID. And there's not, there's multiple vaccines. They came out with the Johnson and Johnson one. They came out with the AstraZeneca one. They had Moderna and Pfizer were both very different

vaccines that use mRNA technology. And then now they're coming out with different boosters. Novavax vaccine. Novavax is different. Plus all the ones that are used overseas. This is such an American-centric view. Yeah, there's a ton of different, and so there's plenty of different,

you can't just say the vaccine, because that's just not even true. No, it doesn't make any sense. It's American-centric in a way that it just defies reason, right? And I also want to point out with the with the Pfizer thing Two things can be true at the same time. It can be true that Pfizer and pharmaceutical companies Intersect with capitalism in ways that are genuinely not good for the American people in our public absolutely

I've that is in my view that is that are genuinely not good for the American people in our public health. Absolutely. I've, that is, in my view, that is indisputably accurate. It can also be true at the same time that the product that they produced with respect to the vaccine for COVID saved lives. They are not just because a pharmaceutical company. Yeah, it's an ad hominem attack. Yeah, yeah.

And like, it's like, we don't have to have these all or nothing, zero sum villains and good guys. Like, there's a desire, I think, for most people to bucket everything into good and bad, evil and heroes, you know, villains. Simple's better. And that's just not how anything real works. Yeah, simple's better for people. No, it's not.

It's not. That's not how it works at all. No. And I totally agree with you. What it is, is it's poisoning the well for all the rest of the stuff that they do. You're saying that because they did something wrong in the past, they can never do anything right. They can never do anything good. Well, you were a Green Bay Packer, so nothing ever that you do ever in the future will ever

be good, no matter what. The business of corruption is like any other. So the story comes from the Hill. Former Obama advisor Kushner engaged in level of corruption that we've just never seen with foreign relations. It's so funny how people are flipping their shit and they're trying to point to this $40,000 payment, which is a nothing. It's a total nothing burger and they keep on trying to like, like, make that something. If I can put enough pitch pins here and enough twine, I could make it into something and they keep doing it over and over. And one of the things that all you have to do is just swivel your eyes a little bit

and see what Jared Kushner did with his billions of dollars that he got while he was in office. Seriously, a couple billion dollars from the Saudis invested in, Jared Kushner was part of the government. He was- He worked, he worked for the government. Right. Fantastically unqualified. There he had literally no qualifications.

He didn't even have like initially, wasn't he one of the guys that like couldn't even get security clearance for a while? It was a couple people. I don't know if it was him or not. I don't know if it was him or not. But I know there was a few people that had a hard time getting security clearance.

Like, but this is a guy who just was a straight nepo hire. Like a hundred percent. There was nothing about Jared Kushner and his weird alien face that says like, hire that guy. He is the most qualified guy in the room. And then he had real fucking important jobs in the executive branch, working specifically with Mideast foreign relations.

And then, oh, I don't know, the Saudis are like, well, anyway, we'd love to invest with you to actual be with a billion, billion dollars. Woof. And we're supposed to believe now with an investment of $2 billion from the Saudis that if Trump were to get back into office, that somehow there would not be

a massive conflict of interest. This is essentially like the Saudis buying into, they're betting on this relationship and saying, yeah, we've got oil money coming out the ass. Here's $2 billion. We'll buy into some piece of America. It's amazing to me that they are, you know, not paying attention to this, you know, paying attention to the speck in someone's health says I while they have a log in their eye.

It's genuinely the amount of cognitive dissonance you have to go through to pick on Hunter while this is happening and nobody mentions it. And then they keep mentioning it in this hearing. I don't know if you've been watching, but on occasion, I'll get a clip from this hearing where they're trying to do this Hunter Biden thing. And this one guy keeps on trying to bring it up over and over and they keep telling

him, we want to vote. Let's do it right now. Let's vote to Joe Biden. Let's do it right now. I call the vote. I call it and they say, no, no, no, they won't do it. And so they keep on trying to say, let's call the vote to do it. But one of the things they keep bringing up is Jared Kushner.

And it's amazing how much money this guy got while being in office and clearly using that office to his advantage. Literally the thing that they're, they're saying that, that Biden did. It's such projection and it's the, it's, it's what I did, what I did, I want to blame on you. What's going to happen to Bill? Nothing. Unless he's convicted.

The story's from the new Republic. We may finally get to write convicted felon Donald Trump. So this story really like kind of like brings the whole arc of all of the insanity leading up to what is now the first criminal trial of a president, former or current ever in American history. And like, there's a pretty strong possibility, like this case is gonna be a tough case for him to win. They wouldn't bring this case to this.

I don't think they would bring this case if it was a loser. No, no. You know, because it's gonna be, you know, I know a lot of people like to think that what they're gonna try to do is use the courts in some way to chill voters and to stop Donald Trump from getting, that's their narrative, right?

So the rights narrative is, they're bringing these fallacious cases. They don't have anything. These are garbage cases. And they're bringing them so that they can put them on stage and then they can basically smear his reputation. The whole time, it's all garbage. Doesn't mean anything, right?

And he never did any of this stuff, essentially. They're making it up. And in my opinion, the exact opposite has to be true. There's no DA that would bet their reputation on something so public to put something like this forward for the American people to be on such a stage. And then the exact opposite is true. Donald Trump is more popular than ever

because he's getting daily treatment on the news and all the people who love him get a chance to talk about him every single day. So it's good, it's actually good for him to be involved in this. But one thing I saw this week that I think is really interesting and I thought I think on our page, on our Facebook page, someone had posted it. And I thought it was a really interesting take.

Keep calling it a hush money trial. It is not a hush money trial. It is a election interference trial that happens to have sex, a sexual favor that was then paid for, like the quiet, to keep it quiet was paid for by the president. That's the hush money part. But like to call it that makes it seem like it wasn't election interference. And it's like, and to frame it like that makes it seem like it was like a gentleman's indiscretion. Right. And that's a good point because actually paying hush money is not illegal. There's

nothing illegal about me paying you to not bring something up. That's all a non-disclosure agreement. That's the NDA. That's literally it. There's nothing that's illegal about hush money. We call it hush money because it sounds more salacious than an NDA, right? But essentially that's what this is. What makes this a crime is that, is really two things as I understand it. It's the fact that he did not disclose, and he's required to by federal law,

he did not disclose the use of these funds when they are, any funds that are being used to affect the election, he has to say, hey, these are campaign funds. These were funds I was using in order to sway or have input into the outcome of the election. You have to disclose that for exactly this reason, right? For exactly the reason of what we're going through now.

We need transparency in a democracy. Without transparency, we don't have real democracy because the people who are voting are disenfranchised from the ability to make real decisions. So that is why those laws exist. It's not just like, hey, you didn't fill out the right form. That's not what happened here. It's also the case that he conspired

with the National Enquirer for Catch and Kill. Catch and Kill is a program that they call National Enquirer where if I'm buddy buddies with you and you run the National Enquirer, I will pay you and in exchange you will go out and find all the salacious stories. You'll have everybody who has a salacious story about Tom sign an NDA to you and then you don't publish it. And that is 100% what he did with the Stormy Daniels story. The National Enquirer bought that and the Katie McDougall story, bought those stories, had them sign NDAs and then buried those stories. Again, this is like second level election interference. That's what this is. And like, from everything I've read, Trump is going to have a fucking miserable time

beating these charges because they've got Michael Cohen who fucking arranged for the handoff of the money, man. Like they've got your guy being like, that was me. I did that. They've got Stormy Daniels doing it. And then they're going to depose other people at the risk of perjury and bring them up there and be like Hey National Enquirer guy, is this what you did? And they're gonna be like, yeah, that's what we did and they've got documents that lay it all out I think it's gonna be a hard case to it's gonna be a hard case to beat. Yeah

He'll be able to have a hard time doing it and to be honest I we're talking earlier about the jury tampering like the you know, I don't want to call it tampering but definitely jury Like the, you know, I don't want to call it tampering, but definitely jury, jury shifting, right? What they're doing. Influence. One of the things that's happening is they let go of that one person who said, you know, that they said was like an Upper East Side nurse and they got somebody else on there that they had to take that was like, I fucking kind of hate that guy. So, so they got somebody on there that was actually worse. So they fucking, they were like, yeah, I'll take another, I'll get rid of this card.

This five card draw, I'll get rid of this card and I'll take another card and you're like, fuck. A three. Two of clubs. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah, they got fucked. So, you know, you're gonna, you're gonna,

they're gonna find out. I think they're definitely gonna find out with this case and with the Fonny Willis trial that's gonna happen in Georgia, the stuff that's gonna happen down there. These are different than what's been happening in the federal cases, because I think the federal place,

the stuff that's happening in the federal cases, he doesn't really have to do anything. But in these ones, these criminal trials, he's gonna have to be sitting in those courtroom. They're gonna have to look at him. He's gonna have to have his big dumpy face on television and angry all day. He already fell asleep twice.

Fell asleep twice already. So I, that is the only time I've ever sympathized. Cause you know, like if I see some. It gets a little warm in there, you're wearing a shit coat. Thank you, that's what I was gonna say. You know that that courtroom is a little warm and everybody's droning their fucking drone talk.

And someone's talking in like a monotone voice for half an hour straight. And you've got that thing where you're like, just kind of curled up into yourself. Yup, I'm gonna go to sleep now. I'm gonna go to sleep. And then you catch yourself like every few seconds. You know me, there's a, my life could be on the line.

And you're like, did we win? Fuck, did we win? No, Tom. We're still selecting the jury. No, Tom, you lost. Fuck! I slipped through it. Can I sleep through prison?

This shit comes from OK Magazine. Not smarter than a fifth grader. Donald Trump mocked for utterly stupid rant about Battle of Gettysburg. I want to play it and we'll listen to it together. But like genuinely this is super cringe. Did this have Frederick Douglass vibes? It had 100% Frederick Douglass vibes. Wait a minute. Is he in Schneckersville, Pennsylvania?

Where in the mother fuck is Schneckersville, Pennsylvania? It's by Schmuckersville. It's gotta be good. Schneckersville is probably peanut butter. Yeah. And then Schmuckersville is the jelly. Yeah, with a name like Schneckersville, it's gotta be good. And then there's like a fucking wonder Pennsylvania

that makes the bread. Here we go. There's was much worse. It's where the army weathered its brutal winter at Valley Forge, where General George Washington led his men on a daring mission across the Delaware and where our union was saved by the immortal heroes at Gettysburg.

Gettysburg, what an unbelievable battle that was, the Battle of Gettysburg. Gettysburg, what an unbelievable battle that was, the Battle of Gettysburg, what an unbelievable, I mean, it was so much and so interesting and so vicious and horrible and so beautiful in so many different ways. It represented such a big portion of the success of this country. Gettysburg, wow, I go to Gettysburg.

What the sweet fuck? Here's the thing, he's a bad reader off the teleprompter. And I think he knows that. When he reads off the teleprompter, which is what he was doing for the first third or so of that until he started fucking just waxing philosophical about Gettysburg. But he's a bad reader off a teleprompter.

And I think he knows he's a bad teleprompter reader. And I think he thinks he's a great extemporaneous speaker. I think he thinks that too, yeah. But he's not good, not so good, not so great or good, so good he's not, he is not so good, good he is not so. He's just really bad at it. Super bad. He's so terrible at it.

It's super cringe. It is cringe as fuck. It's so repetitive. He just like, it just picks a phrase and then repeats it by throwing another adjective in there. The battle is Gettysburg. So beautiful and so vicious and so important and so, you know, in so many ways, so much of America built on Gettysburg.

He just has no idea what word is coming out of his mouth now. Also, wouldn't you just like to quiz him? Give him five of the easiest questions about Gettysburg. I wanna ask him where battles have been. I would ask him where was the battle of Gettysburg and he would get that wrong. I'd be like, give me a 10 year span that the battle of Gettysburg happened in.

Right, yeah. Give me a 10 year span. Cec battle of Gettysburg happened in. Right, yeah. Give me a 10 year span. Cecil, I don't think he... I would give him, if you want to give him five questions, I'll put two of them on there. Who were the combatants? Where was the battle of Gettysburg fought? I still think he... There's a 75% chance he gets one of those two wrong.

I don't disagree. I don't disagree. I think he's, I think he doesn't know what he's talking about. But you look in the back on this audience here and what you see is essentially, you know, a bunch of kids with cauliflower ear. You know, it's like, it's like the wrestling team came and you're like, okay, yeah, no, I mean, that tracks, I guess. I guess that tracks. That's fine.

But genuinely, he is not a good speaker. He's not somebody who understands history. And when he does this, and he does this every once in a while, it's so fucking cringey to watch him do it. But it doesn't matter to him. It literally doesn't matter. In fact, him do it, but it doesn't matter to him. It literally doesn't matter. In fact, this is a- His audience doesn't care.

People will spin this into how amazing is that. There's a woman actually that's hidden by the Chiron down here that they actually focused in on, and you could see her face while he's talking. She's like making faces like, what the fuck is he talking about? It's amazing. God, what a fucking chuckle fuck this guy is. Now we're gonna fucking chop your balls off and sell them as trinkets.

Sister comes from the BBC, Bondi Junction mall attack, obvious killer targeted women according to Sydney police. So I wanted to give this article some props and some real demerits as well. I am gratified on the one hand, that they even brought up the reality that women were the sole and primary target of this attack.

I think a lot of times, unfortunately, women are attacked and they are attacked because they're women. And then that is not a focus of the article and a focus of the motivation of the attacker. So I did want to give him some credit for that. But again, some demerit here, because the way this is structured really kind of goes out of its way to suggest

that this is anything other than a hate crime. Yeah. If, and this is a hundred percent a hate crime. I agree wholeheartedly. If he had targeted black people, Jewish people, Muslim people, this would be Bonnie Junction Mall attack, hate crime, Sydney police said.

Yeah, it's a hate crime, you're right. When we attack women, for some reason, even though women are being segregated for violence or separated from violence by virtue of a single characteristic of their physical self, it doesn't get called out specifically as a hate crime. And in fact, in the article, at one point, the dad says he really wanted a girlfriend

and he couldn't get one and he was just so vicious or so terribly upset about it. And it's like, man, I don't care why some in-cell murdering hate criminal decided they felt like they could kill other people. I like, it'd be like, if there was like the dad of like a clan member who killed six black people in the mall, it wouldn't be like, well, you know, he really wanted to be, you know, best friends with Kanye and Kanye shut him down. And so he stabbed like six black

people out of rage against the black community. We wouldn't give that credibility. We wouldn't give that credence. That would be an insane thing to offer any credibility to. I just feel like it kind of winks a little bit. And I don't like that, man. I think you're absolutely right, though. This is a... It is a hate crime. I mean, like, it's clear that this is becoming more and more a norm, where women are becoming targeted by frustrated dudes, and we're seeing it more and more.

Women have had to protect themselves from men forever. Like forever, for the time that we've been a species, they've had to protect themselves from us. And the fact is, is that there is now a path for women to shun people that are bad and that are worthless and that don't have a lot to offer them. And that makes a lot of people upset and it's making more and more men extremists. And that's it's it's radicalizing dudes.

And that's something that needs to be stopped. It needs to be it needs to be nipped in the butt. And it's and it's it's our responsibility to stop it. Like it's our responsibility to stop this. It's our responsibility to look out over the male landscape and figure out why they're being radicalized and why they're not looking inward and always looking outward. And that I think is the most important thing

that has to happen from this. I don't know what steps you need to take to slow it down, but I will point out one thing too that I wanted to mention, it's a tragedy. A lot of people died. How bad would this been in the United States? Oh, thank you.

I mean, we're looking at a knife attack. It's a horrible, awful way to die. But one guy was able to hold this guy at bay on an escalator for a few minutes with a, he had like a, like a little, the thing you have a velvet rope on, I don't know what that was. Yeah, like a stanchion or whatever.

Yeah, he had one of those and he just like held it and like kept the guy at bay cause he just had a knife and there's nothing you can do. Now if that guy was walking up with an AK-47, I don't care how many of those things you have. And our country has something to learn by restricting guns. And we really have something to learn because this is a crowded place that someone can walk in

and kill 60 people without blinking. Yeah, that is exactly right. And what's distressing is that the American takeaway from this, I can already hear it will be, well, you see, you don't need a gun. A guy with a, a determined guy with a knife can commit murder too. It's like, cause you've heard this, Arnie.

You've heard it. Well, they could, they could kiss somebody with a knife. They could, they can make a bomb like the, like the Boston bombers. They could drive into a car, you know, crowd with a car. And it's like, yeah, guns aren't the only way that we kill each other, but they are the most efficient way that we have.

And it's like, we know they're the most efficient way because when your job is to kill people, if you're in the army, the Navy, the Marines, what do they give you? They don't give you a knife, they don't give you a fucking Chevy Blazer, they give you a gun. Yeah. Because we've figured out that's the best thing for killing other people. That's why we arm the cops, not with fucking velvet ropes. Yeah, they don't have stanchions or whatever.

They've got goddamn guns. It's so fucking self-evident. We know it because when we absolutely positively need to kill somebody, we give you a gun. You get an AK-47, you have to kill everybody in the room. I mean, come the fuck on. Yeah. I think I wanna yes to end your point

about guys looking outward. Fuck off. Yeah. I think I want to, I want to yes and your point about guys looking outward. There is a male tendency when with respect to violence to externalize rather than internalize. And I think that, and I'm just armchairing it, right? Like, I don't know this. I'm not a fucking psychologist. I don't know this, but I, and I'm not a sociologist,

but my personal impression is that I see men when they're angry, when they're frustrated, when they are, you know, embittered, there is a strong tendency to externalize that anger, to externalize that frustration, to externalize that violence. That shit's got to get fixed. And if we can't figure that out, like there's a part of me that's like, well, maybe we just need to arm women. Like maybe we need to get to a point where like, Like there's a part of me that's like, well, maybe we just need to arm women. Like maybe we need to get to a point where like,

like women just need to be armed in this. If we're going to have an armed country, like maybe we need to like arm everybody but the dudes, you know, because I don't know how the fuck else we're going to keep people safe at this point. I don't know that we're going to like reach into the switch and like flip a switch and be like, be better men. and then wait for them to actually do that work to keep women safe So Cecil I think I've sent you screenshots of my new hobby

which is every day to cackle at the price collapse of the Donald Trump truth social media whatever the fuck his stupid stock is called I keep forgetting the absolute destruction of that stock price. It's really bad. It's so bad it's in the 20s it's like a $27 today or something. And the best part about this article I will say the article is called, every time I buy more the price drops more. True social backers baffled by stock woes.

And I want to say, like people were thinking it was a dot com boom, but they're like, it's more like pets.com. And what I love is, it's cause that's like such a fucking, it is such a cautionary tale of the dot com era is pets.com. Oh my God. And to watch like how bad that like, like, I mean, really how the dot com era is pets.com. Oh my God. And to watch like how bad that like, I mean really how the dot com stocks really just fell apart.

And really that's emblematic of what happened. And this is just a mirror of that. This is, I saw a thing today, an article today that like Trump is putting out like missives now to make it like, hey, here's what you can do as a stockholder so that like short sellers can't borrow your stock because like the short sellers are just trying to get a hold of they're trying to borrow this to short it

because they know there's more floor here. They are not at the floor. It did rally a little bit. Like it kind of stabilized more than rallied over the last like two days, give or take, but it has absolutely collapsed from its like IPO high of like 70 some dollars a share to like $27. I wonder what that is over the entire stock. I wonder what kind of loss that is.

It's got to be. Well, it went from like, I think on the day of the IPO was like 8 billion and that was at like 70 some dollars a share and then it's dropped like at least 60 percent Oh, yeah, so it's down to like four three point whatever foot's lost more than half of its fucking values That's billions of diets basically just shed value and what I love is that the fucking the Trump true believers are like Well, just buy more Why then they're confused. And there's like guys in this like,

I don't know how to tell my wife that like I lost all her money. There's other people being like, I don't know how to like convince my husband to let me buy more stock. And you're like, hey, you stupid assholes. Dude, it's kind of crazy. There's no revenue picture here. Isn't it terrifying that like he has such a holdover people that they're willing to

like go into financial trauma for him? That's scary man. It's terrifying. It's like it is. It makes me sad too. Like, and I, like, I know I'm laughing, but it does. Some of these stories made me sad. There was people who took like their whole life savings and they bought Trump stock with

it and they've essentially like lost 50, 60, depending on when they bought, 50, 60% of the value of their entire life savings. And like, I can't see how they can possibly ever recoup that loss. Immediately on the SEC filing, you see that like they have a $58 billion negative. They've only got like 14 million in revenue

or 4 million, they had like no revenue. They essentially have no like 14 million in revenue or 4 million. They like no revenue. They essentially have no, they have no income coming in. What are you making money off? There's no nothing to make money off. There's no rosy side to this. Yeah. It's just a personality stock. He sold a personality stock. That's all he did. What scares me the most about this is people willing to go into financial dire straits because of this guy. And then to see him having all of these trials and clearly all these times that he's done horrible things, like he's a rapist, you know, and that's something he has to pay a lot of money for, you know? There's, you know, all these other things that he's done that he's done.

for, you know? There's all these other things that he's done that he's done, he's lied and then now we're looking at him paying off a porn star, there's a possible racketeering charge. We saw him incite the riot at January 6th. Literally saw that. All of these things that he's done and he's more popular than ever. I don't understand this country anymore.

I don't. There's a specific and personal hold he has that nobody else has. This has to get broken. I don't know how though. Does something take its place when he goes? I don't think, I think that there'll be too many little dogs nipping at those crumbs.

I don't think there's anyone in the wings that has that same- Maybe you're right, maybe you're right. Magnetic hold on a portion of the population. You know, there's a lot of them that wanna do it. There's a lot of like up and comers that wanna do it. The Marjorie Taylor Greene's, the Josh Hollies, but they don't have the same kind of like big national

rabid following in the same way. Those people can still fuck up. Look at Lauren Boebert. Those people can still fuck up and be ridiculed. This guy can't seem to do anything to like his base doesn't care. He can stay. He literally stands in front of people's like washing machines. Remember when they used more water. That was better.

Uh, I like to spray hairspray into my apartment until it chokes all the birds to death in the entire city. Uh, yo, Gettysburg is like Frederick Douglass. They're both getting all the attention they deserve. Uh, uh, hire me. I want to make fun of a developmentally disabled man now. These are all real things. And we're just like, there's a grist. I don't think anyone else matches that. I don't. It's so scary though, to see a group of people that are just so invested in a single person.

I mean, this is a Messiah. This is somebody who is, I mean, he's genuinely like they're, he's their second coming. Yeah. I, it's the only other thing that I'm baffled. I'm at a loss for words. I really am. But the other thing that occurs to me, and maybe this is part of it, is that he duped people so bad

that psychologically they have to double down or acknowledge what they've done to this country. Yeah, it's like the QAnon people when people start bringing up more and more crazy shit. And then they're just like, they're they're like, I got to keep doubling down because because I if I don't, then I'm gonna look like an idiot. We're like, what what the hell is that guy's name? Who's like, oh, the world's gonna end. Oh, yeah. Harold Camping. Harold Camping. He didn't lose followers, no matter how many times the world didn't end. I think there's a certain amount of like, I'm already in it. I'll look like an asshole

if I abandon things. I've fought my whole family over three Thanksgivings about this. If I walk away now, who am I? I think there's a big part of that too. I think the second he loses in November, but please, if he loses in November, he'll disappear. He'll be like COVID, just disappear. I made a huge, tiny mistake.

Speaking of the world ending, Tom. Yeah, this is good, good, good. Some Reuters, UN climate chief says, two years to save the planet. Oh, that's sobering. UN climate chief says two years to save the planet. Oh. So- That's sobering. That's not gonna happen.

No, it's not gonna happen. There's no real reason to be optimistic that that's going to happen. What he said is, governments, business leaders and development banks have two years to take action to avert far worse climate change. They're not saying it's not happening and it's not going to continue to happen.

I think everybody at this point is like, look, this is fucked up. We're starting to see some really fucked up shit. It's not going to get any better. We already have to fucking basically hold onto this Bronco as hard as we can now and just make the best of the fucking shit we got right now. Yeah. But if we keep going, expect this Bronco to double in size.

Yeah. And kick a lot harder. Yeah. It's like going to the doctor with like a herniated disc that they can't operate on. And they're like, all right, here's the deal. Don't fucking jump rope anymore. Yeah. You're going to fuck. It's going to hurt forever now. Now you just hurt forever. operate on and they're like all right here's the deal don't fucking jump rope anymore yeah you're gonna fuck it's gonna hurt forever now now you just hurt forever don't do anything to make it worse

and we're just gonna do it we have to have what they're saying is we have to by 2030 have our carbon emissions in order to avert the next level of greenhouse gas related catastrophes. I think you can do this. Oh, can is different than will. I'm not saying will. Yeah. I'm not anywhere near will. No, I agree with you.

I think you can do this. I think you can. I think it's possible. I think we could easily start putting forth a lot of money to research lots of ways in which to create more and more green energy and carbon capture. I think both of those things we could as a world, shit a bunch of money and research into it, get a bunch of stuff and then shit a bunch of money into producing it and then shit a bunch of money into taking a lot of that stuff that's doing the bad stuff out of production.

I think that all of that is perfectly reasonable and is something that could happen, but it's a huge upturning of the apple cart for a lot of systems that already exist. And I think everybody is looking and saying, well, you know, I mean, some of it sucks, but some of it doesn't, so oh well. Yeah, I'm reminded of a documentary I watched just recently about antibiotics. I watched a documentary, a frontline documentary about antibiotics.

And in that documentary, they said, you know, like we are desperately in need of new antibiotic medications to handle these gram-negative bacterias, these antibiotic-resistant bacterias. And it is very technologically possible for us to create these, but we are not going to create these. We are not working on it kind of anywhere.

And the reason we're not doing it is there's more money to be made selling other things. Antibiotics don't make good money because you don't take, and this is like what Pfizer said, and like, so this isn't like conspiratorial, it's a frontline PBS documentary. They're interviewing the heads of these companies. They're like saying, well, we're not gonna make those

because it's more, we make more money making a cholesterol reducing drug than we would making antibiotics. It doesn't make financial sense for us to make these antibiotics. And so we won't do it. I think the problem isn't technological with respect to putting up more solar farms and windmills

and tidal sources of electrical and then nuclear plants. And there's a lot of green energy. We have the technology. The problem is like, we don't have the will to do it. We don't have the will. We don't have the will. We don't want it enough to not want tomorrow's like stock holdings and tomorrow's shareholder event. We want that. That's the thing we want.

That's the thing we're all structurally built to answer to. Yeah. You're going to see more and more and more crazy weather. That's just, I mean, that's just what's going to happen. And, you know, I read stories this week about the acidification of the ocean. Oh my God. I read stories this week about Dubai being under, you know, under a deluge of water, right? Like absolutely completely covered in water. Really?

It was either Dubai or I don't know if that's Abu Dhabi or the same place, I'm not sure. I genuinely don't know. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know a lot about the geography over there, but it was one of those places over there that was just like, it's just covered in water now. They had too much rain in there, just absolutely.

I mean like genuinely flood levels that are just obscene, right? And there's just little things that are happening. And then there's, you know, I'm reading stories about the currents that go across the ocean and how those might not work the same very soon. And, you know, we're talking about massive changes

to our globe in short, short time spans, time spans that they had predicted in the seventies were gonna be, you know, hundreds of years out. And that instead, and to be honest, you know, to be honest, if they were a hundred years out and it was, and we were following those, we might've been okay. Because I think there is enough to sort of, um, I guess in some ways to sort of pull us there in a really soft sort of nudge forward into this more electric, I think there's a soft nudge that we're getting and we're seeing,

because there's more EV cars now. There's more solar panels out there. There is some soft nudging that's happening in our environment and in our world where we're seeing more and more people adopting these new technologies. So we are seeing it. And I think maybe if it was a hundred years out

before you started seeing these massive changes, maybe we'd have made it. But we didn't make it. We a hundred percent didn't make it because they thought it was gonna take a lot longer and it didn't. So we are in a situation now where we've gotta do way more, I think, than there's any will to do.

And so you're gonna keep seeing, you know, I do have hope for humanity that they're gonna try to do something to change it eventually, but it's gotta get way worse than it is now. And it's got an inconvenience, rich people. That's the real key. If it's not inconveniencing rich people, you're not gonna see a change.

It won't matter, it won't matter because who's in charge. Yeah If it's not inconveniencing rich people, you're not going to see a change. It won't matter. It won't matter because who's in charge. Yeah. Yeah. It's not the people who are going to suffer from sea level rise. It's not, you know, like I think it was the government of Fiji that, that like brought a lawsuit to the UN and was like, our islands are going to literally disappear. There won't be any more Fiji anymore. Yeah. It was like Maldives too, I think, or something like that. They're just like, like these places just will cease to existiji anymore. Yeah, it was like Maldives too, I think, or something like that. They're just like, these places just will cease to exist on Earth.

And the world is collectively kind of shrugging at this. And we're basically out of time, and it's gonna be such a shame when we don't solve a technologically solvable problem. Yeah, a technologically solvable problem, I think there's always pain points and I get it I understand there's gonna be pain points. But like the fact is is that there's the people that are in charge They we've been I think the elder generation and I'll count myself as part of that group

Have been holding on to power way too long and they've been making way too many decisions Based on the short term because that's all we've got. Right? All I've got is a short term life. I don't have a long term life. I don't have to see this planet 80 years from now. I won't have to see it. I won't know what happens 80 years from now, but your kids might. Oh, I know.

You know, your kids might, their kids might, you know? So we're in a situation where the people who should be making decisions should be having to deal with those decisions We're in a place now where you know Joe Biden's not gonna live another 10 years Yeah, Joe Biden's making a lot of decisions for the country We need people in the end that are making decisions for this country and for the world that have to contend with those They'll have some skin years down the road. Yeah. Yeah., you brought it up, but like, it is a source

of like genuine, intense guilt that I had kids at all. I think if I had, if I had had any, I would never have had kids. I so sincerely wish I did not have kids. Like, because I love my kids. And I don't think that the world, I do the math and I'm looking at like, okay, well, you know, if my kids live to the average age of an adult male or adult female, what year is it going to be and what's the science say the world's going to look like? And I'm like, oh my God, I just, I don't know how to square that moral circle. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That's going to wrap it up for this. Sorry guys. All right. So that's going to wrap it up for this week. Sorry guys! Alright, so that's going to be it for this week.

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